Alastair's Adversaria - The Internet Is The Negative World

Episode Date: May 14, 2024

The following is a reading from this post: https://argosy.substack.com/p/33-the-internet-is-the-negative-world. Within it, I discuss Aaron Renn's recent book, 'Life in the Negative World: Confronting ...Challenges in an Anti-Christian Culture' (https://amzn.to/3JYcRPP). Follow our Substack, the Anchored Argosy at https://argosy.substack.com/. See my latest podcasts at https://adversariapodcast.com/. If you have enjoyed my videos and podcasts, please tell your friends. If you are interested in supporting my videos and podcasts and my research more generally, please consider supporting my work on Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/zugzwanged), using my PayPal account (https://bit.ly/2RLaUcB), or by buying books for my research on Amazon (https://www.amazon.co.uk/hz/wishlist/ls/36WVSWCK4X33O?ref_=wl_share). You can also listen to the audio of these episodes on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/alastairs-adversaria/id1416351035?mt=2.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Every two or three weeks, my wife, Susanna and I, post an update on our substack, the anchored argosy, argosy.orgacy.com. Within each post, we share our news, photos of things that we've been doing and seeing, updates on things that we've written and produced over the period, and also reflections on some topic that is on our mind. The following is a reading of one such reflection from our latest substack. Its title is, the internet is the negative world. If you want to read the article yourself, you can do so at the link in the show notes below. Aaron Wren's Three Worlds model of American secularisation has received considerable attention
Starting point is 00:00:39 since his article, The Three Worlds of Evangelicalism, was published in first things. This attention was heightened with James Woods' subsequent use of it in his critique of the winsome model of cultural engagement, chiefly associated with the late Tim Keller. In the two years that have followed, the so-called negative, World account of evangelicalism's current position in secularising America has perhaps chiefly been associated with the faction of evangelicalism that John Erritt has termed the pugilists who have commonly wielded it to justify the adoption of a more belligerent posture both with respect to the surrounding culture and towards moderates in the church.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Earlier this year, Wren's life in the negative world confronting challenges in an anti-Christian culture was released by Zondavan. It was only released last month in the U.S. UK, so I had to wait to get my hands on a copy, but I finally had the opportunity to read it, and would recommend that others do the same. Wren's diagnosis of evangelicalism's current situation is often perceptive, and his suggestions for responses are worth considering. Despite the great currency that the negative world model has had among many culture warrior types, while he gives them appropriate credit on certain points, Wren's proposals do not align with theirs, and will also be appreciated by many who would
Starting point is 00:01:57 decisively part ways with the culture warriors. Wren's analysis of contemporary culture is often helpful, not least because such analysis addresses glaring gaps and dangerous blind spots in much evangelical thought with its narrower preoccupations. As Wren recognises, much evangelical thought is unaware of how shifting socio-cultural context shape its thought, ecclesiology and practice,
Starting point is 00:02:22 approaching these things as if they operated within a purely ideological framework. He observes, for instance, the way that complementarianism and egalitarianism must be understood against the broader backdrop of modernity and of socio-cultural developments in America over the last 50 years. As someone who has been stressing such points for years, and is currently teaching a course on modernity as the underconsidered backdrop for our thinking on such matters, it is refreshing to read a clearer-eyed treatment. In outline, Wren's three worlds of evangelicalism model is a sociological account of shifts in American society over the last 60 years as they concern its hospitality to historic evangelical faith. Wren's account, while perhaps providing a useful framework for Christians
Starting point is 00:03:08 elsewhere and of different traditions, is especially focused upon evangelical Christians in American society. Its purpose is also less one of providing close historical or social analysis than it is equipping evangelicals to operate more effectively in a transformed and transforming cultural environment. For this reason, while someone seeking close analysis could fault it as simplistic at several points, for its intended purposes, such simplicity is generally a virtue. In broadest outline, Wren's account periodises the past 60 years of American history, a time of decline for Christianity's influence in America, into three eras of 30 years, 20 years and 10 years. The first, from 1964 to 1994, he calls Positive World, an era within which wider American society
Starting point is 00:03:57 mostly had a positive regard for Christian faith and morality, and there was a general alignment between Christian norms and the aspirational norms of society at large. The second, from 1994 to 2014, he terms neutral world, within which, although Christian faith no longer enjoyed the same privilege that it once did, it faced little hostility or discrimination either. The third, an era beginning in 2014, which we still inhabit, is negative world, within which historic Christian beliefs and morality are increasingly at odds with dominant social norms and mores, exposing many Christians to negative consequences for their convictions. Ren enumerates several factors that occasioned the decline of Christian
Starting point is 00:04:41 influence in American society and the growing disfavor towards evangelicals. The collapse of the old wasp establishment, the social and sexual revolutions, the end of the Cold War, and factors such as corporate consolidation and the move to a digital world that allow for a few dominant corporations and agencies to exert immense social and cultural control and influence. In Wren's telling, American evangelicalism first arose in the 1940s and filled a gap between the liberalized mainstream and the fundamentalist churches, with many of the fundamentalist churches later being absorbed into it. fundamentalism tended to be more sectarian and socially marginal, evangelicalism became a powerful
Starting point is 00:05:22 social and political force, as it catered to more culturally and socially engaged conservative Protestant Christians, typically from the middle classes. Ren discusses some of the chief forms of engagement with wider society that evangelicals have adopted. The culture warrior approach, exemplified by the religious right and the moral majority, adopted a combative posture to the forces of secularisation, representing the activist grassroots of movements against such things as abortion and perceived attacks upon the family and conservative sexual mores. Wren characterises the seeker sensitivity model of cultural engagement as a business school approach to Christianity.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Tipified by the suburban megachurch, this model of cultural engagement presumed a widespread latent interest in Christianity in people that, with a more appealing and consumer-driven model, could be activated and attracted into church. While both these models flourished in the positive world era, whose more favourable conditions they largely depended upon, a third strategy of cultural engagement responded to the challenges posed by the neutral world. Christians could no longer count upon cultural openness
Starting point is 00:06:31 or tractability to their message or significant prior exposure to Christian ideas and increasingly needed to win a hearing for themselves. This model tended to be more delicate in its handling of points of cultural tension and wanted to build bridges with and maintain presence within broader social institutions. This model of engagement typified by someone such as Tim Keller was more commonly found in urban and professional settings. Although Wren draws some connections between these approaches and those of H. Richard Niebuhr's Christ and Culture, he wants to make clear that the
Starting point is 00:07:05 contrasting approaches of engagement did not develop within hermetically seal theological frameworks, but were highly responsive to people's contexts and class positions. Geographically, for instance, the Culture Warrior model was most dominant in rural and lower class contexts, the Seeker sensitivity model in middle-class suburban settings, and the cultural engagement model among urban professionals. Most of life in the negative world consists of proposed personal, institutional and missional responses to the negative world situation. I do not intend to give a proper review of the book here, I recommend that you read it for yourself. It frames an increasingly important conversation
Starting point is 00:07:45 and makes some helpful suggestions. In what follows, however, I wanted to share a few of my own reflections upon it and some of the random thoughts that I had arising out of it. Wren's Three Worlds framework might suggest to many readers that it describes a straightforward linear development focused upon Christians. The framework is a rough heuristic designed for Christians, not a detailed model of broader social developments. A seeming linear, movement has the advantage of simplicity. However, despite the benefits of this, it might leave us a little less alert to uneven and discontinuous shifts characteristic of multi-causal developments.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Further, by placing Christians at the centre of the picture, it might disguise the true nature of some of the changes. As Wren's framework is centred upon Christians and an unfolding cultural conflict between them and ascendant antagonists, his account is poorly positioned to recognize certain more ecological shifts. Such ecological shifts can be discontinuous involving the sudden introduction of new factors which do not merely continue existing trends and although they may often advantage opponents of Christians were not really engineered or targeted by or at anyone and can hurt other groups in similar ways to Christians. There is one huge missing piece in Wren's account, its absence both glaring and
Starting point is 00:09:04 baffling. While he rightly mentions the importance of digitization, which constantly concentrates great power in a few online companies. He simply does not adequately wrestle with the impact of the internet. Without considering the internet, I do not believe that much of what Wren terms negative world will truly make sense. Indeed, key inflection points in the wider adoption of the internet coincide with some of the shifts that Wren identifies. Global internet use took off in the mid-90s, and it was in the mid-2010s that the age of the mobile internet arrived and social media reached its dominance. The shifts to neutral and negative world are certainly not monocausal, but I believe that the internet is by far the most powerfully explanatory factor. The following
Starting point is 00:09:50 is a rough sketch of some of the relevant ways in which I believe that its impact has played out. The early internet radically changed the form of public discourse, whereas broader cultural discourse had formerly been the preserve of a few, a realm protected by gatekeepers within elite institutions, publishing media and politics, the internet started to open the conversation up further. As a growing realm of discourse, the internet reduced the control of legacy media, the political and party establishments, academic institutions and other such agencies, and the power of the old liberal elites at their heart. Within the former cultural ecology, liberal elites were less threatened by hostile and unwelcome voices,
Starting point is 00:10:33 which could more safely be siloed outside of mainstream discursive context. or policed within them. The obscurity that people could enjoy outside of such mainstream discursive contexts was also a source of safety for them. To become a public voice, you would need to pass through credentialing and other gatekeeping institutions
Starting point is 00:10:52 and agencies and demonstrate some degree of loyalty to the norms of the liberal establishment that they constituted. In many ways, this allowed for a more generous overton window. Liberalism's confident culture of good faith and respectful disagreement
Starting point is 00:11:06 was easier to make maintain in a context where participation in public discourse was more reserved to those who had undergone extensive formation in its institutions, belonged to its elites, and honoured its norms, while more fringe or plebeian voices lacked the same access to publicity and could safely be ignored. While people might have strong differences, they shared institutions in a broader liberal culture in common, and were less likely to be seeking to destroy each other or burn it all down. In such a setting, despite political, religious and ideological differences in society, there were still effective consensus-forming mechanisms and institutions,
Starting point is 00:11:46 elite control over the dominant means of publication, and a confidence in a culture of persuasion. Legacy media, with its gatekeeping and credentialing, could restrict participation in the public to persons with formation in liberal discursive values, but the internet changed this, whereas positions might formally have been represented in public by more erudite and polished advocates, the internet opened realms of conversation
Starting point is 00:12:10 in which differences could be discussed by the average Joe. Now people could talk more directly with people of different viewpoints. The earlier internet was dominated by more intellectual, creative and technologically literate males, who developed their own fora and typically male-coded cultures of argument. The liberal dream of a culture of persuasion began to sour in this context, however, especially as less intellectual persons started to go online. Scott Alexander describes this dynamic in a post, to which I will return later in my discussion.
Starting point is 00:12:42 People who had hoped for thoughtful and friendly debate encountered flamers, trolls and fools. Instead of interacting with thoughtful exponents of different positions, you might unwittingly find yourself arguing with some anonymous, obnoxious 14-year-old. Some of us might have been that 14-year-old. The world prior to the internet was one in which people of different contexts were far less visible to each other. People could live within their own bubbles, with much less exposure to people and ideas outside of them. The internet, however, started to pierce a lot of these bubbles, enabling people to look beyond their social worlds and to be formed in
Starting point is 00:13:18 ideas and values and engage with people from outside of them. This weakened the power of those worlds to maintain internal norms and consensus. It also made it easier for dissidents to arrange movements within and against them. It also started to make formally obscure bubbles easier for outsiders to look into. Among other things, these shifts increased the felt need for apologetics for both outsiders and insiders. It also intensified the perceived threat that different bubbles could pose to each other. It was in such a context that a strong atheist movement started to emerge. More young people from Christian contexts were rejecting the bubbles in which they had grown up, and especially following 9-11, more secular atheists were starting to look at the religious worlds of many of their compatriots as a threat.
Starting point is 00:14:06 The belligerent new atheist movement was a product of the earlier internet culture, strongly mail-coded and debate-driven. Alexander suggests that a loss of confidence in the power of persuasion led people to look for a hermortiology, an account of sin. The new atheist came to believe that religion was at the root of people's blindness and resistance to reality. They were strongly committed to the hard sciences and to a world of facts and reality. While very aggressive, they still tended to uphold liberal values of open discourse. I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. It seems to me that the rapid passing of new atheism as a movement might be a difficult thing to explain within Wren's three-world framework. In the early 2010's, atheism discourse was everywhere online, and then suddenly the movement failed,
Starting point is 00:14:58 and many of its leaders fell into disfavor. What happened? Alexander suggests that the new atheist movement seamlessly merged into the modern social justice movement, the hermortology of the latter replacing that of the former. I think that Alexander is right that new atheism largely shifted into social justice. However, I do not think that he adequately accounts for the mechanisms by which this happened, I think that the evolution of the internet provides a far better explanation. The key shifts occurred around the time that Wren locates the movement into negative world.
Starting point is 00:15:31 The earlier internet had chiefly been a realm of words and ideas. Although there were intense circles of feminine coded online activity, more masculine forms and cultures of discourse generally tended to be more defining of the internet as it related to the public realm. The, there are no girls on the internet meme, belongs to this era. The rise of social media radically changed the culture of the internet. While the former internet had been more anonymous and detached from offline identities and relationships, in the new social media age, everyone was increasingly putting themselves online.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Whereas the internet had been a weird place with lots of anonymous strangers onto which you could go, now your real-life identity and relationships were online. It was no longer a wild west into which you could wander, or a secret friend to whom you could confide, but a virtual village in which you resided. The earlier internet was also decentralized and unmapped, filled with obscure corners where you could find groups of strangers who shared some interest,
Starting point is 00:16:31 or you could set up your own online homestead with a blog, perhaps joining some friendly circle of fellow bloggers. The social media internet completely changed this. In place of subscribing to RSS feeds, on the social internet, things were disseminated socially, Virality memes, social media mobs and other such concepts tried to wrestle with the novel results and forms of the emerging dynamics of the social internet, where ideas spread along more tribal, reactive and emotional trajectories. The social internet made formerly obscure parts of the internet visible to each other,
Starting point is 00:17:06 collapsing formally detached spaces into vast, common plains of discourse, within which we are all potentially visible to everyone. In the social media internet, which would be intensified by the mobile internet, the distinctions between public and private and those between political and personal started to fail. Before the advent of the social internet, there were also strong feminine-coded worlds online, in particular the worlds of fandom and fan fiction. The internet gave a powerful voice to fan communities who obsessively talked about, speculated concerning, created artwork relating to, and spun off their own fantasies.
Starting point is 00:17:44 from their favourite properties. Especially for young women, such contexts were realms within which they could theorise their identities, relationships and worlds. The intimacy of the things that a young woman could confide of herself in such realms also gave them a social intensity
Starting point is 00:18:00 and fierce protectiveness and sensitivity. Catherine D., default friend, has argued that it is impossible to understand the cultural shift to so-called whoteness, or what Wesley Yang has called the successor ideology, without appreciating the role that Tumblr in particular played. Tumblr was a step away from the more obscure worlds of earlier fandoms
Starting point is 00:18:21 into a more visible and open world. I think D, perhaps the most perceptive commentator on such internet subcultures, rightly appreciates the importance of Tumblr. However, it seems to me that the mainstreaming of Tumblr culture required larger social media such as Facebook and Twitter, which brought masculine and feminine forms of the internet into more direct contact and collision with each other, and led to the dynamics of the latter prevailing over the former.
Starting point is 00:18:48 The immense popular user base of Facebook and the widespread use of Twitter among the commentariat, academics and other public figures gave them immense power to shift the tone of the broader cultural conversation as platforms, and their social character meant that there was a concern for personal identity, relationships and communal dynamics within them, that one would not encounter to the same degree
Starting point is 00:19:11 in former public realms. The intense self-reflexivity and theorisation of identity and society encouraged by Tumblr and other such contexts could break out into the broader culture because Facebook and Twitter created flattened contexts of discourse, disrupting the oppositions between public and private and political and personal that would formally have limited the spread of its discourses. As social media increasingly swallowed public discourse,
Starting point is 00:19:38 it led to a growing preoccupation with the social. the fragilised and bespoke identities of those who came of age online, whereas the old context of liberal discourse was gate-kept and bounded, distinguished from more social spaces, and operating according to more masculine and coded norms, the new discourse, occurring in social places, became preoccupied with feminine coded sensitivities about identities, victimhood, and etiquette.
Starting point is 00:20:04 The structurally egalitarian character of the new social media also made it very easy for authorities to be challenged, and unsettled through group pressure. It made it a lot easier for marginal groups to organise across contexts, to make themselves visible to themselves and others, and to exert pressure upon majorities. The intense fandom culture also encouraged the rise of a fixation upon media representation of various groups and identities and various properties,
Starting point is 00:20:32 and powerful lobbies to press for them. Without the advent of social media, the shift to social justice and its more feminine coded politics would probably not have occurred in the same way. In the new atheist movement, this shift initially played out in controversies such as that surrounding elevator gate and in a migration of focus from discourse
Starting point is 00:20:51 focused upon scientific and philosophical realities to its own internal dynamics and to issues of social justice, feminism, anti-racism and racial justice, and the various concerns of the LGBTQ plus movement. The concerns of this politics were concerns that were more natural to an age-dominated by spectacle, where appearance and representation have increasingly taken the place of
Starting point is 00:21:14 everything that was directly lived, and the personal and political are allied. In this context, the old confident liberalism has failed. The once bounded public square is bounded no longer. The participants in society's discourses, at all levels, increasingly appear as victims and vulnerable persons requiring protection, a public square to which people are more directly exposed and in which they can more directly operate, perhaps to be followed by its evaporation, has set the stage for the passing of a culture of robust exchange of differing viewpoints, confident in a common reality. Much of the old liberal establishment has withered and lost its former confidence. The legacy media has shrunk and its authority diminished. Academics are more precarious in their
Starting point is 00:22:00 employment and more conformist. There has been a rapid diminishment of political diversity in academia. Academic institutions are increasingly driven. by the interests of administration and business. The old realms of the public square have been weakened, and what has taken their place operates very differently, a small number of corporations exerting considerable power over it. More restrictive managerial oversight of societies without consensus reality, but with repeated alienating and polarising interactions,
Starting point is 00:22:30 is taking the place of the more open liberal societies of the past. Power has shifted to large corporate agencies, and trustworthy custodians of liberal values. The Overton window is no longer the more expansive one of the old liberalism, but one that serves the interests of a new managerial elite, brokers of a social order for their dependent and biddable clients, whose constant petitioning of them in the hyper-politicized symbolic causes of their personal lives is rather less threatening than traditional politics might be.
Starting point is 00:23:00 In many respects, it could be regarded as a depoliticisation of people, so that the market can proceed unobstructed. Neoliberalism is social justice. In the deluge of data characteristic of the internet age, the fact has died, and in its place we have multiple competing narratives with little allegiance to a grounding reality. The politics of such an age of spectacle and social media
Starting point is 00:23:24 will tend to be scissor politics, repeated narrative-driven polarization. Floyd, COVID and Gaza are examples of such stories. In such a context, disdain, anger, resentment and cruelty will tend to proliferate. Its reactivity will also encourage competing extremisms. Trump was a symptom and accelerant of such politics, among other things, designed to attack the dignity that liberals might see in the office of the presidency. There is a great deal more that could be said about the impact of the internet.
Starting point is 00:23:56 However, I want to consider how it might relate to Wren's negative world thesis. The development I've described weakened and old liberalism, Reordered societal discourse, transformed the public square, elevated more feminine coded values, fragilized communities and identities by making them more porous and exposed, thrust more of societal life into a collective spectacle, and strengthened managerialist neoliberalism. It was not targeted against Christianity, though. In many respects, we all live in a negative world now. The loss of consensus reality, the failure of effective consensus forming institutions, the extreme polarisation of our politics and the fragilisation of our communities and identities leave everyone feeling exposed and vulnerable in new ways.
Starting point is 00:24:42 No one thinks that they are winning. In other respects, the development has fallen especially hard upon particular groups. In America, the place that Jews once enjoyed in the old liberal establishment, for instance, is rapidly shrinking and rising open anti-Semitism and less certain government policies concerning the state of Israel are signs of a loss of their cultural power. In such a context, it is easy for people to confuse some of the ways that the emerging order seems to threaten their groups, with some negative world hostility to the Christian
Starting point is 00:25:12 faith. Responding to such a sense, it is easy for identitarian victimhood politics to allied Christian identity with fragile identities, with white masculinity, for instance, and to pursue sectarian politics in Christ's name. As such politics impact the church. they will tend to be both highly divisive, resistant to the church's concrete Catholicity, and to compromise the moral integrity of the church and the primacy of its bonds for the sake of effective political coalitions. Accentuating political tribalism
Starting point is 00:25:45 offers a sort of security for anxious Christians, but at the cost of Christian faithfulness in preserving the peaceful bond of the spirit in the church. A key reservation I have about Wren's thesis is that it might lead us to focus our attention upon ourselves and upon American society's reduced hospitality to Christians in their faith. This is not without its importance, but in many respects what we are experiencing may be a particularly pronounced form of a more general societal malaise, much of it brought about or accelerated by the internet. Recognising this might equip us to think better about the manner of our response. For instance, we might think more carefully about how to guard our own lives, contexts,
Starting point is 00:26:28 communities and organisations from some of the more damaging dynamics of the internet. We might also consider how the church might function as an arc for others, protecting them from the collapse of the former order and the threats of its successor. In conclusion, I want to stress that the advent of the internet is far from a monocausal account of the so-called negative world, and that I agree with most of Wren's analysis of its causes. However, the absence of serious reckoning with the internet in his account is a significant oversight. Thank you very much for listening. The article that I've just read, the internet is the negative world, is available on our substack, the anchored argosy, at
Starting point is 00:27:08 argosy.orgasie.com. The link to that will be in the show notes. God bless.

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