All About Change - The Black Mambas: Women Saving Rhinos and Elephants from Extinction

Episode Date: March 4, 2024

Both species of rhinoceros in Africa are endangered, in large part due to the value of rhino horn on the black market. In the western part of South Africa’s Greater Kruger National Park, a group is ...working to keep these animals safe in spite of the bounties on their horns. The Black Mambas are a woman-only group of rangers that patrol the wildlife reserve to protect against poaching.    Tsakane Nxumalo, a ranger with the Black Mambas, joins host Jay Ruderman to talk about their rigorous training process, the role of education in conservation work, and what role her gender plays in her work.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Black Members is the first to change that perspective in the communities, in the societies, in the minds of the men that have been doing this job for that long, that also women can be in this industry and they can do the job. Hi, I'm Jay Rudiman, and welcome to All About Change, a podcast showcasing individuals who leverage the hardships that have been thrown at them to better other people's lives. I say put mental health first because if you don't... This generation of America has already had enough. I stand before you not as an expert, but as a concerned citizen.
Starting point is 00:00:39 On the western side of the Greater Kruger National Park sits the Oliphant's West Nature Reserve. It's the home of what's known as the Big Five, the African elephant, lion, leopard, cape buffalo, and the rhino. It's also home to a group dedicated to keeping those animals safe. They're known as the Black Mambas. One thing that sets the mambas apart, they're a force formed entirely of women. For us, it's every animal, whether it's a rabbit, whether it's an elephant, big or small, we're protecting all the animals. Gender doesn't define what we can do. Our gender is just a gender. I'm just a female. A person is a male. But then when it comes to the job, it depends on how determined I am to do the job.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Then I can get it done. That's Chikani Nengmalo, a ranger with the Black Mambas. The group's primary goal is to keep rhinos safe from poachers, many of whom are the ranger's neighbors. While that could make dynamics tense between the two groups, Chikani has an incredible depth of empathy for the situation the poachers are in. Value the lives of the animals that we're protecting. That is how we value the lives of the poachers that are coming in here. Some are there because they just want that little meat to feed their families.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Some are there because they want that meat to sell so they can take their children to schools. If I can come to you, you're not working, you need the money. And I tell you that, OK, go into a reserve, get me a rhino horn and I'll give you $10,000. Some people have never touched $10,000. So they'll just go because they need the money. That dedication to the communities they're part of extends past the rangers' patrols. The Black Mambas also run an education initiative to bring the love of wildlife into local classrooms. For me, it's a long-term investment
Starting point is 00:02:41 because they're going to go home and tell their fathers or their uncles who are poachers, people should stop poaching because the animals are going extinct. And when I grow up, I want to be a ranger. Like, I think that gives parents the platform to start sitting down and thinking that, okay, if I kill all the animals, where's my child going to work? Underlying all their work is a commitment to the wildlife and ecosystems that have been there longer than we have. So, Chakani, welcome to All About Change. It's my honor to have you as a guest today.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And thank you for being with us. Thank you for having me. So for those listeners who are not familiar with your organization or hearing about it for the first time, in your words, can you tell us who the Black Mambas are? Okay, so the Black Mambas is an organization, like the first organization, which is an all-female that was started in 2013 which is really working on uplifting women in the rural communities like women we are not working and mostly women because we've grown in a society where it was like all about men in this industry
Starting point is 00:04:02 women couldn't do this job Women were not even seen anyway doing this job. But then the Black members is the first to change that perspective in the communities, in the societies, in the minds of the men that have been doing this job for that long, that also women can be in this industry and they can do the job. What is the significance of an all-woman force? For me, I think that with women, we do everything wholeheartedly. Whatever that we put our mind to, we make sure that we get it done. And we have all those qualities that we can nature.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Like from the children that we have from home, we know how to be mothers to those children. And then it goes to like every child in the community. It goes to the animals that we're busy taking care of. And it goes to every person in the community because when we go back home, we don't stay with the information that we have. We make sure that if it's a child, I teach that child. I make sure that the child, when they're with their friends, they talk about it. If I'm talking to an elder, we do talk about preserving nature. We do talk about taking care of natural resources, taking care of the animals. So I think with women, we are just gifted in that.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And Chakani, you mentioned that traditionally the field of conservation is a male-dominated field and that the Black Mambas are challenging gender stereotypes. Have you experienced any pushback because you are a group of all women? We have. With the group that I came after, they got remarks such as, what are those women thinking? Because we trained at ProTrek, which is, okay, before us, it had never trained women, ever. So we're the first group of women trained by men, trained by ProTrek, which is a training facility that men are running away from. So we're women, we're still going there,
Starting point is 00:06:17 whereas men were running away from that place, but we're still going there. And even now, from people who are just, I can say narrow-minded because it's not really about gender. Our gender doesn't define what we can do. Our gender is just a gender. I'm just a female, a person is a male, but then when it comes to the job, it depends on how determined I am to do the job, then I can get it done. So tell me about the training that you receive before you go into the park. What type of education do you go through in order to do this job?
Starting point is 00:06:57 So, okay, our job requires us to be physically fit. That is like the first thing first. We have to be physically fit. And the training that we went to, if I had to go again or if I had to save somebody, I'd never go there again. We did a semi-military training where we were taught how to track. training where we were taught how to track, we were taught how to identify tracks of animals, how to report the tracks of animals, how to report tracks of human beings, how to backtrack if we find tracks of human beings inside the reserve. We were also taught how to read the bush because immediately you're inside the bush, you have to know since we're not using any firearms you have to know like if i find a elephant what do i have to do do you run because
Starting point is 00:07:54 there's no running in the bush so they were teaching all that and then they were also making sure that we're physically fit would run for for 12 kilometers kilometers a day with just a little bottle of water, would exercise like so bad. But then it was good because it took the we can't from our mindset. It took the doubts that we came with from the society, the doubts that people were talking that we are not going to make it. We will run away. Even men ran away from that training. But then it took away those thoughts,
Starting point is 00:08:29 and we had that mindset of we can do it. If others that were members before us did this training and succeeded, then that means that we can do it also. So tell me, what does an average day look like? What do you do day to day? So we kind of do different things depending on where we are needed. But then the fence line is our top priority because it's where we have to put our boots on the ground. And most of the time, it's where the poachers are coming in from so we're making sure that every time they try coming in they will see that okay uh this place is being looked after the
Starting point is 00:09:12 women are already here so we put our boots in the fence line which is the the first line of detection for us and some days we do snare sweeping. We go into the bushes because the poachers, whether it's bush meat, whether it's the other poachers, they go into the bush, they put snares and most of our animals are getting killed by those snares because most of them are there to kill. They're not just there to just trap the animal and they come take the animal away we just find some animals killed and some of the days we do roadblocks we do searches in at the gate making sure that uh most of the time we have contractors that are working inside the reserve that we're working in so we're making sure that they don't come in with anything that should not be inside the reserve and also making sure that
Starting point is 00:10:02 when they go out they are going with nothing that is belongs to the reserve so in making sure that when they go out, they are going with nothing that belongs to the reserve. So in the morning, we walk the fence line, checking if the fence is not cut, no animals are going under the fence, making sure that there are no tracks coming in or going out. And then at night, we are going in a vehicle with our spotlights, making sure that we're shining, going in a vehicle with our spotlights, making sure that we're shining, also still checking the fence line. And which animals are you trying to protect? I know that there's a focus on rhinos.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Are you trying to protect other animals in the park? I think for us, it's all the animals. We just have that priority of saying, like, the rhino is the most endangered we have pangolins we have elephants which they're they're targeting the tusk or the ivory so depending on what the people that are coming to poach are looking for because they also have bushmeat poachers so they can't be coming for an elephant it's too big for them if they're just going to feed their family. So they'll be coming for also the small antelopes. So for us, it's every animal, whether it's a rabbit, whether it's an elephant, big or small, we're protecting all the animals. I see. And tell me about a poacher.
Starting point is 00:11:19 What is a poacher doing in the park? What is their target? poacher doing in the park? What is their target? Some are there because after we just came out from the COVID-19 pandemic, a lot of people lost their jobs. And some are there because they just want that little meat to feed their families. Some are there because they want that meat to sell so they can take their children to schools. But then some are just there because they are greedy. take their children to schools but then some are just there because they are greedy if i can come to you you're not working you need the money and i tell you that okay go into a reserve get me a rhino horn and i'll give you ten thousand some people have never touched ten thousand so they'll just go because they need the money so i think the motive behind it for every poacher is different
Starting point is 00:12:03 whoever is being sent to get the rhino horn is not really the person who's going to sell the rhino horn. They're just being the scapegoat for whatever happens in the reserve. I'll just get another person to replace that person so that we can get what we want. So have you, on your patrols, have you seen animals caught in snares? I've seen one, but then we found it dead. I've seen a buffalo that was trapped in a snare. Luckily, it was able to pull the snare in the tree that it was tied in, and it was able to move from where it was trapped to a different place.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So we're able to just track it down by the branches of the trees that were being dragged on the ground and how the legs were moving because we could see from how the legs were moving that one leg is injured and then the other legs are still fine. So we found it dead, unfortunately. So Chakani, tell us your personal story. How did you grow up and what made you decide to become a member of the Black Mambas? I come from a very big family in a village called Samalani in Bushback Ridge, which is in Bumalanga. I grew up with my dad
Starting point is 00:13:21 since he separated with my mother and my mother was in Limpopo in Palavuro. I've always had a desire to serve. So for me, it was not really about nature. I just wanted to find myself somewhere where I'll be serving. I became a black mamba in 2019. I heard about it and I was not doing anything. It was after I was done with my diploma in public management. And then I got the opportunity. I heard about it like, okay, there are ladies who are working inside a reserve called the Black Mambas. They're doing a very good
Starting point is 00:13:59 job. So for me, it was that thing that, okay, I want to be part of that change, the change that they're making out there, the role models they are in the community to children and to other women that are there in the community. And I applied. And when I got to the interview, I didn't even know what to say the black members are. I remember I was asked, do you know anything about the black members? And I told them that, yeah, I know a black member. A black member is a very dangerous snake. Like, that is all I knew. But with being here, I've learned a lot from the training,
Starting point is 00:14:40 from working with the people that were here before, and from everybody else. I've learned a lot and I'm still learning. How did you first hear about the group? They took it to the community. So our reserve is near the community of Palabura. So every time they want people, they take the post to the community in a way of trying to uplift from that community or from that rural area.
Starting point is 00:15:09 So when they took the post to Palabra, luckily I had visited my mom and then I heard about the post. I was doing nothing. So I just had to give it a try. And here I am. So with this difficult job, what motivates you to keep going? I've never loved failing at anything I do. Irregardless of if it's something that I'm sure that I'm going to do and do it well, or if it's something that I'm just trying out. But also, I have a very supportive family like super super supportive so it's more of the thing that they didn't believe that I would do it but then at the
Starting point is 00:15:54 end I managed to change how they look at everything because you know TV shows a whole different scenario from from real life and they'll just see a lion on TV attacking a person. But then it's not really that case. So I managed to change how they looked at it. And now they're very supportive. So I have that thing in me that, okay, before letting myself down, I don't want to let them down. That's wonderful. Let's talk about going into the park.
Starting point is 00:16:24 You're going into the park on foot in pairs. You do not have a weapon with you. There are poachers in the park that do have weapons. And you're facing some of the strongest animals in the world. Elephants, lions, buffalo, leopards. lions, buffalo, leopards. How do you feel safe walking into a park with all of those threats all around you? For me, being inside the park,
Starting point is 00:16:53 I've learned to leave my conscience in my room. The minute I go into the park, I know that all the animals are there. It's more of remembering what to do when you're inside the bush because it starts with listening, like using our senses. If I go inside the bush, I don't listen to anything. I don't check the animal tracks. You can just pass tracks and then a lion just passed there.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Or you can just be walking and you're not listening and a lion is roaring and if you can hear it in time or detect it in time you'd be able to get saved or turn back or do something but then if you're not using all those senses like if you're not using the education that you were taught a training the the the teaching that you were taught how to read the bush how to read the animal's behavior then it becomes very hard and with poachers I've never had an encounter but every track that we find we make sure we report even if it's a boot as long as it doesn't look like my boot then it's not supposed to be there. I report. And the team that is supporting, like when we report every time is always, always, always, always on point
Starting point is 00:18:12 because every time we report, they are there. So it makes it very simple that even if I come across something, they will be here in a minute. And what is the reason that you do not carry a weapon? For us, the reason why we don't carry weapons is that as much as we value the lives of the animals that we're protecting, that is how we value the lives of the poachers that are coming in here. And with us also, the reserve is much nearer to the villages that we are coming from. So it's very much possible that the poacher that is coming into the reserve is my neighbor or it's someone that I know. And we are avoiding that thing of going back to a very angry, vengeful community or kids that want to revenge rangers who have killed their father
Starting point is 00:19:06 who was maybe trying to feed them or maybe trying to take them to school. Why is it better that you patrol without guns than having a weapon? I think it goes back to us remembering everything that we were taught because if we were to check the statistics, I think a lot of rangers are getting killed out there with guns. A lot. Because every time I come across a situation, I'm not going to stand and think or read the bush
Starting point is 00:19:36 or check the animal's behavior because, yes, I'm going to find an elephant that is angry already and that doesn't mean that I have to shoot it. I can just, maybe if I see it from a distance, I just turn back and just leave it there. So it goes back to us having to remember that, okay, if an elephant is doing this and that, I have to do this or I just have to go back. If I see tracks of a lion, I report and I have to go back. tracks of a lion i report and i have to go back that decreases the number of animals that were shot by rangers because maybe they were in close range or the animals were trying to attack or anything so it goes back to us remembering it's more of us learning every day because
Starting point is 00:20:18 if you learn today and then you don't practice what you have learned in time you forget so with us every time we are refreshing what we have learned in training we are refreshing what from experience we've come across and uh had to add upon that situation or had to do something so we are remembering and refreshing the teachings that we were taught that if if an animal is doing this, you do that. If you see a track of a human being, you report first, and then backup will be there. They don't have to be any shootings, because obviously the backup does have firearms,
Starting point is 00:21:00 so they know what to do. They were trained for that. But for us, we have to remember and then just report everything. I see. And have you ever, while you're on patrol, I know you say you've never encountered a poacher, but have you encountered the Big Five while you were in the park? were in the park? Countlessly. So I remember this one time we came across lions. I couldn't even count how many lions there were
Starting point is 00:21:32 and we were just two. So what happened is we walked the fence like twice. We would go the other way and come back and when we passed we didn't see anything. So the reserve is near the R40 which is a national road we sometimes get very busy so you can get distracted easily but then we do look and listen and everything and observe but that day we just we came across two buffaloes.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And they were on the way that we had to pass on. And we reported like immediately that, okay, they're two buffaloes. We are not sure if we're going to make it past them. And they told us to go back and fetch the car. We turned back and as we were turning back when we got to where the lions were, I don't know, something told me to look on my right hand side and when I looked they were just sitting there looking at us. A lot of lions, a lot. In a ditch, Niana, somewhere. And I told the one that I was with, I just held her hand and said, stop. Let's go back a bit. And then we went back. I told her, like, okay, don't be alarmed. And you have a pride of lions. There's a large group of lions, and you see some buffalo, which are also dangerous.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yes. Were you fearful that you could be attacked either by the lions or the buffalo? At the time, I wasn't. or the buffalo? At that time, I wasn't. What's funny is that we are there to protect those animals, but then they're also attacking us who are protecting them. For me, it was more of an adventure. The way they were so chilled, like I got that confirmation that, okay, they are not even going to come here. They looked like they just ate, so they were full. I see. Yes. I see. Let's talk about community engagement. You work closely with the communities that are adjacent to protected areas, and you work to build trust and educate them about the importance of protecting the wildlife.
Starting point is 00:24:02 How does that work? How do you work with the communities and do you experience any pushback from the communities? So we have a program called the Bush Babies Environmental Education, which is working with 11 schools in Palawara. We have like seven environmental monitors or teachers that are going to the schools every day teaching about environmental education. And we also have bush grannies, which are the grannies that are in the communities. They also have like a lot of information about what has been happening long ago before we even knew about all this. So they are also helping with teaching their kids what they know teaching us also what they know and we have camps for the kids and the grannies
Starting point is 00:24:53 and sometimes we do take them to to to the kruger national park because it gets really hard if we have to teach the kids how to protect animals they have never seen or if we have to teach the kids how to protect animals they have never seen. Or if we have to teach the grannies how they have to protect a rhino if they've never seen one. They just know a cow and a goat because it's domestic animals. So you're telling me that people who live close to the fence, close to the border of the parks, many of them have never seen the wildlife in the parks. the parks, many of them have never seen the wildlife in the parks. Many of the children or the adults have never been in the parks or seen this wildlife. For them, they just know that this is a park. They've never went there. So it's very much important that they are taken into the park so they can see all those animals. But then for most of them, for most of the kids, most of the parents don't have the money to take their kids
Starting point is 00:25:50 because it's transport. Sometimes they have to pay to go into the Kruger National Park. So now that you've had a chance through your work to bring children into the parks to educate, do they then feel like they've become stakeholders in the conservation efforts? I think they do. They feel involved in what we are doing. They feel included. let's say, 2013 and now, in terms of rhino poaching and the difference that since the black mambas
Starting point is 00:26:30 have been in existence, do you see a difference in what's happening in terms of poaching? I can say I see a very huge difference because when we were starting out in 2013, a day would come back with 70 to 80 snares a day. But then now it has gone back to maybe two or three. And we were able to remove 1,471 snares.
Starting point is 00:26:59 So when you're on patrol, I understand a big part of your job is to take the snares and to remove them and take them out of the park. Yes. In terms of the economics, and you talked about people being paid $10,000 for a rhino horn or providing bushmeat to their families so they can eat. There's a lot of money at stake. How do you think the Black Mambas have been able to combat this problem, you know, in terms of economics and in terms of helping that dynamic? So when the pandemic started, we had a program, a food parcel program, where we're going into the community. We're asking for donations, like through our donors, so we can get the food parcels to take to the people in the community,
Starting point is 00:27:56 mostly people that are not working and mostly people that have lost their jobs during the pandemic. their jobs during the pandemic. So I think that has lessened the number, like it has decreased because they don't have to go out into the reserve trying to feed their families since they're getting the food parcels. Chakani, can you tell us a story of maybe your favorite moment on the job? I think having to go back to the community and teaching the kids. One thing about teaching the kids is that they never forget. Like it's always there. Even if they're playing, they play with what you taught them. And for me, it's a long-term investment
Starting point is 00:28:40 because they're going to go home and tell their fathers or their uncles who are poachers also that okay today soldiers came to our school because we're called soldiers because of our uniform and yes like when i grow up one day i want to be like her yeah people should stop poaching because um the animals are going in stick and when i grow grow up, I want to be a ranger. Like, I think that gives parents the platform to start sitting down and thinking that, okay, if I kill all the animals, where's my child going to work?
Starting point is 00:29:15 So that is like one phenomenal moment. I can say, I'll do it every day if I had to. Like, I'll teach the kids every day. I'll be talking to the kids every day about preserving nature. I'll teach the kids every day about if you cut a tree, you plant another one because those are natural resources. So this is sort of a larger macro question, but what are your thoughts in the global fight against
Starting point is 00:29:46 wildlife trafficking and what are your hopes for the future of rhinos and other threatened wildlife in Africa and abroad I'd really really really plead with people to really stop there's a poaching because as much as I am protecting the rhino, I don't want tomorrow or next year or after five years to have a child and tell the child stories of animals they can't see because the animal has gone extinct. So I want to show my grandchildren of that animal that I once protected, that animal that once chased me, although I was there because of it and there for the good of protecting it. So do you see more wildlife now when you're in the park
Starting point is 00:30:38 than you did maybe a few years ago? Yes, now I see a lot more of wildlife. When we are at work, it has become our little safari because when we're moving around, we come across elephants, we come across lions, we come across rhinos. So I see a lot because while I was still at home, it was not every day that I'll just wake up and decide to go into the Kruger National Park to see the animals. It'll be maybe when I was in primary school, it'll be maybe once or twice a year on a school trip. And then you'd hear them screaming, oh, lion. And then that time the lion has gone already. You can't even see it. And what do you think that you're capable right now in your life of doing that you could not have done before you
Starting point is 00:31:26 became a black mamba um i'd never go into a reserve and um that is one uh and i'd never just walk there knowing very well that i might come across a like one of the big fives that is one thing i'd never do but then then now I do it. And I'm super comfortable when I'm inside the bush because I know that is the work I chose. I know that is something that I'm doing and I'm passionate about. So like nobody has to wake up in the morning, motivate me like, okay, get up and go to work. I wake up for myself. Like I wake up knowing that I'm going to make a change out there. So yes, I'm going. I see. And what is the impact of what you do or the fact that the Black Mambas exist at all? What's the impact on the lives of
Starting point is 00:32:20 women and girls in the communities that you come from? I think we've given them their voice back, mostly with this industry and other industries that were male dominant. We've given them a voice back. We've given them that desire of saying that if they can do it, that means we can do it also. And we've given children a path to see because while we were growing up, we didn't know that there are a lot of opportunities in tourism,
Starting point is 00:32:50 which includes this one that we are doing. But now we know that and we are taking the word back home to tell them that even if you don't want to be a black mamba, then you can be a guide. You can be something in tourism, in conservation. You can be someone. So where do you see the conservation efforts, let's say, five years from now? Do you think things will be better?
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yes, I think things will be very much better because we as rangers and everybody in conservation, we are building that awareness and people are getting more and more aware, more and more involved in wanting to save the nature, in wanting to protect the environment. So in five years time, I think people will be like they, working together to combat poaching. working together to combat poaching. And what changes do you hope to see, like maybe on an international level, in terms of the conservation effort? Well, first of all, I can say that I'm actually hoping and waiting to see more female rangers, whether they are armed or unarmed,
Starting point is 00:34:01 but then more female rangers. That is one thing that I can say I'm hoping that I can see or there can be a change, like that women are represented in this area. That's beautiful. If our listeners want to support the work of the Black Mambas or to be involved in the cause of rhino conservation, what do you suggest they do? They can follow our pages on Instagram, on Facebook, on the Black Mambas APU, or they can follow Transfrontier Africa.
Starting point is 00:34:39 So Chakani, thank you so much. First of all, I want to thank you for all the hard work that you do, for your motivation, and for trying to make our world a better place and conserve the animals that are so beautiful and part of our world. So they're around for generations to come. So thank you so much. It's been such a pleasure talking to you.
Starting point is 00:35:03 I appreciate your time. And thank you for being my guest on All About Change such a pleasure talking to you. I appreciate your time. And thank you for being my guest on All About Change. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having me. The Black Mambas are as innovative as they are impressive. Slowing the rate of poaching at Kruger is a tall order, but one the women of the Mambas are equipped to handle. That's it for today's episode. Join us two weeks from today for my talk with Academy Award-winning actor and tireless advocate for the deaf community, Troy Kotzer. Today's episode was produced by Rebecca Shasson with story editing by Yochai Meital and Mijon Zulu
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