All Fantasy Everything - 2019 Pop Culture (w/ Alison Herman, Sean Jordan and David Gborie)

Episode Date: December 26, 2019

A tradition like no other! Alison Herman is back to recap (and draft) the year in pop culture for the FOURTH time!Episode Guest:Alison Herman @aherman2006 IG: @aherman2006Suppo...rt the show!Sponsors:Manscaped: Get 20% Off and free shipping with the code ALLFANTASY.Join the All Fantasy Everything Patreon for exclusive mailbag and movie watch-a-long episodes. Check it all out at www.patreon.com/AllFantasy.Rate All Fantasy Everything 5-stars on Apple Podcasts.Decide the winner on the All Fantasy Everything Twitter poll @AllFantasyPodMerch!T-Shirts! Sweaters! Stickers! Mugs! Deck yourself out in some goods at www.teepublic.com/user/allfantasyeverythingFollow the Good Vibes Gang on social media:Ian Karmel @IanKarmel IG: @IanKarmelSean Jordan @SeanSJordan IG: @SeancougarmelonJordanDavid Gborie @Thegissilent IG: @Coolguyjokes87Show Email: allfantasypodcast@gmail.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. Welcome to another brand new episode of All Fantasy Everything, the podcast that just allowed 10 seconds for room tone. There you go, Marissa. We did it for you. Apparently, we need to start doing room tone. Sean just told us now. Well, I just found out. He's been hoarding this information for himself.
Starting point is 00:00:42 He never brought it up. My computer fell. Oh, God. Podcast over. We're done. We're done computer fell. Oh, God. Podcast over. It's all done. We're done, guys. The rest of the home recording. There's a moose loose in the room.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Did you see that moose video I sent to the group? I've seen that moose video since before it went viral, baby. I should have known that. I should have known that. Come on, man. You know I'm up on these moose fights. You got your finger on the pulse of the moose culture. It has got a healthy respect for the moose.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Wait, is this the one with the Boston accent? Yeah. Mom! Yeah. respect for the moose wait is this the one with the boston accent yeah i saw that video because someone quote tweeted and just said not the accent i expected here that was true like it was happening in his front yard like that's not like they weren't on vacation that's a dub over you think it happened at a housing uh housing uh what do you call it It happened at a housing, what do you call it? Well, there's a lot of houses. A housing project?
Starting point is 00:01:29 A subdivision in Alaska. Okay. What is the word? Why now a suburb? A subdivision. A subdivision. Okay. Beaverton is the word.
Starting point is 00:01:37 It happened in- Beaverton has a lot of subdivisions, I imagine. It absolutely does. Yeah. What did we got? Like a Canterbury crossing? That's 100%. Yeah. Stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Like Blue Glen. Spyglass. Yeah. Spyglass Hill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I grew up in Charley. Yeah. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Yeah. We had more like- That's Charley if you come from one side, Somerset Meadows if you come from t'other. Both strippers. I was more of a dog patch, whiskey flats kind of kid. Yeah, we know. North, North Cliff. You were a main kind of a dog patch whiskey flats kind of. Yeah, we know North North Cliff parking parking lot of the Econo suites. We
Starting point is 00:02:10 know I did. I grew up in apartments and it was like Prairie Wind Country Meadows. Yeah me too. Charles Charles courts Panther Lake Appian Way Panther Lake. Yeah, we lived in Panther Lake twice. We moved metal. Yeah yeah my neighborhood
Starting point is 00:02:25 was called university city which is just from an anime like where the characters would all live it's a pokemon city that's literally what it is yeah i'm gonna go see brock at the university city gym yes exactly i'm gonna catch a pik know a couple Brock's. Was there a nearby university? In theory. So, yes. But the fun story is that this is in San Diego. They built UCSD and then they were like, we need to build a whole neighborhood
Starting point is 00:02:55 where all the professors will live and we'll call it University City because we're building it just for the university. And then all the professors are like, we're too rich for this. We're going to live in La Jolla and Del Mar, which are nicer neighborhoods. Isn't that kind of in a shitty spot of San Diego?
Starting point is 00:03:07 It's like right outside of downtown, right? Like kind of sketchy. No, it's like right next to La Jolla. So it's like north of downtown, but it's like the very boring, like all seventies ranch homes,
Starting point is 00:03:17 middle class area. That's like in next to all the exciting stuff. It kind of passes. It will cost $1.2 million here. Right? Yeah. I didn't mean to call your neighborhood shitty, by the way. My esteemed colleague, David, pointed out that that's what I just did.
Starting point is 00:03:28 He gave up. This is called Dog Patch, Whiskey Flats. Literally anyone who knows me knows I am not in the habit of defending San Diego. Sorry to anyone else from UC also listening to this, but. That was the name of my first book was In the Habit of Defending San Diego. Yeah, it was. And that was me on the cover, glasses in the mouth. They were so far down the bridge of your nose that you fell off.
Starting point is 00:03:50 You had a gun covering your eyes and glasses in your mouth. Yeah, dude, it's the podcast in a 10 second room tone. I'm getting better. For some reason, I lost the last episode, but I'm back, baby. You did not. It was fine. Sean S. Jordan on Twitter. Sean Cougar Melon Jordan.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Sean Couragement Melon Cougar Jordan. Right now. Sean St. Clown Posse. Sean St. Clown Posse. Just getting some Sean Couragement from Sean Jordan. Did we already do that? Sean St. Knowles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I started calling, well, years ago, it was Becca. My friend Becca, we were calling her Fiance Knowles, but I'm going to start calling Laura Fiance Knowles. Ah, she's her Fiance Knowles. I got engaged. He's engaged. Oh my God. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:04:25 This is a live reveal. This is my genuine reaction. Yeah. I keep forgetting that people might give a shit. So when I tell someone or they find out, they're like, why didn't you tell me? And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:04:34 ah, I guess I, I guess I wasn't thinking. And also because you're a man, you can't do like the thing where you just strategically position your hand until someone asks you about it. You have to directly tell people. I would never notice.
Starting point is 00:04:46 As soon as I get the ring tattooed on my finger. I mean, we've talked about this briefly on the podcast before. Tot, no. See? He was going to get a ring tattooed. To anybody out there. That's a limit. What are you in a Sheryl Crow kid rock video? That's a picture video move for sure.
Starting point is 00:05:02 If you're out there and you have a ring tattooed on your finger this is not shade Sean just hasn't seen the sunshine in three damn days I'll put your picture away that's your impression of that song that's how I think Bob sounds
Starting point is 00:05:20 Bob who? Oh Kid Rock you're on first name basis. Oh, his name is Robert. I call him Roberto rock. Didn't we do this the other night? He's higher up here. I think he's more up here than you're putting them.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah, probably. I can't say picture. Yeah. So you're digging in a little more than he did. It's even higher than that. He's a little more raspy. No,
Starting point is 00:05:42 I think he's even higher than that. He does. When he goes, sat down and cried that. He's a little more raspy. No, I think he's even higher than that. He does. When he goes, sat down and cried today. That's too high. Is that too high? That was too high. Yeah, you went too high.
Starting point is 00:05:52 It's not on that shelf. I'm going to be very honest and say I'm not familiar enough with the vocal register of Kid Rock to judge this. I'm a coastal elite. I have to be pretty straightforward about that. That's true.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Saw you yesterday with an old friend it was the same old same how have you been now you're harmonizing and that's just beautiful that is nice i love that too that's pretty cool i've walked into some bars where that was playing and been like oh we want that's one of those songs that if i'm drunk i don't relate to it at all but if i'm drunk i relate to it yeah like it's about being on the road right i mean that's I don't relate to it at all. But if I'm drunk, I relate to it. Yeah. Like it's about being on the road, right? I mean, that's I don't know what it's about, really. I don't think so. I think it's about like a breakup, right?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Well, I think it's because he's on the road so much. He's cheating on her a bunch. And he, you know, so he's being a piece of shit, doing drugs. Oh, because she saw him at the hotel. Yeah. And everyone knows, but they won't tell. Correct. Ah, so she flew in and then she said, yeah, it was one of these like, I'll meet't tell. Correct. Ah. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:06:46 So she flew in. And then she said, yeah. It was one of these, like, I'll meet you in Madison sort of thing. Yeah, but then when they see each other on the street, she was like, I was headed to church. And he was like, I was off to drink you away. Uh-huh. This is the kind of trenchant contemporary cultural analysis that people are coming to the Spice House for. This is what they came for. 2019, huh?
Starting point is 00:07:04 All right. Let's open it with an in-depth discussion. Surprise, surprise. My first hit is Picture by Kid Rock. Sean St. Clown Posse, what do you got coming up?
Starting point is 00:07:15 You've got the Snow Jam. January 25th, Snow Jam. Which I imagine we'll all be taking in next year's pop culture. Remedy Brewery is where it is. Every episode gets a little,
Starting point is 00:07:23 I get a little more information about this show. Remedy Brewing Company. Comedy Remedy Brewery. Yeah, it's Every episode gets a little, I get a little more information about this show. Remedy Brewing Company. Comedy Remedy Brewery. Yeah. It's a Saturday night. Let's, uh,
Starting point is 00:07:29 yeah, let's all go there and have fun in Sioux Falls. Headlining. Headlining. Snow Jam. You, Kevin McDonald from Kids in the Hall. Uh huh.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Balky from Perfect Strain. Balky from Perfect Strain. Who is the other guy? And then, and then one of Patrice O'Neill's friends. All three. Dante N Oh, Dante Nero. Accidental Proud Boy. Accidental Proud Boy.
Starting point is 00:07:51 What else is going on? You're engaged. You're engaged to be married and you're engaged in illegal narwhal tusk smuggling activities for the last 20 years probably. Airing me out like that. I'm engaged looking at wedding venues.
Starting point is 00:08:05 You made tacos. I made tacos. Turkey tacos. Put some season in there. Season in there. It's going to be a local wedding. You're not even comfortable saying it. Is this happening in LA or is it happening elsewhere?
Starting point is 00:08:15 The wedding? Yes. That'll be looking like outside of Portland. Oregon's beautiful. Columbia Gorge. Yes. Looking in the gorge. I had some of the best honey I've ever had in the Columbia Gorge. Yes, looking in the gorge. I had some of the best honey
Starting point is 00:08:26 I've ever had in the Columbia Gorge. I'll buy that. Yeah. Yeah. Columbia, it is funny where, yeah, you see shit like where you're like apricot honey? You get a majestic backdrop for all the photos. Oh yeah, carved out by a once mighty Columbia River, surging surging with the melted ice from the
Starting point is 00:08:41 oh my god, my brain, dude. No, your brain is fantastic my coworker got married ice age on Mount Hood really it looked very physically uncomfortable but very beautiful it's gorgeous I don't know if I would want to you're looking formal here walking on Mount Hood well the big dog got married
Starting point is 00:08:58 my friend Tori got married at on just off of Mount Hood yeah so like at government camp government camp. Is it at government camp? Yeah. And it, sorry, David's thrown hangers at the wall over there.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Sorry for that. Jesus. Ah, the doorbell. That Starbucks order comes quick. Anyway, you could see Mount Hood in the background of where he was married. And we took a ski lift up,
Starting point is 00:09:22 which was sick. And then we took like a sled, like a dry sled down. Is that making sense? Like a dry, like a luge type thing. You get it. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Did you get married to Melwood Meadows? Over like dirt? Like what makes it a dry sled? Yeah, it was like, it was like a, like a PVC track or fiberglass or something. And you were in like.
Starting point is 00:09:39 You got married to Melwood Meadows. Is that what that is? Yeah, probably. Sounds like you got married to Six Flags is what it sounds like. Yeah. Oh yeah. It was that ride. Ski-Doo? Yeah, sure. Ski what that is? Yeah. Sounds like you got married at Six Flags is what it sounds like. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:45 It was that ride. Ski-Doo? Yeah, sure. Ski-Doo? Yeah. Okay, that's funny. Or Ski Bowl, maybe. Ski Bowl.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Maybe that's what it is. It's been a minute. Anyway. Yeah, Ski-Doo's not it. Ski Bowl. Something. Anyway. It was funny watching all these people.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Like, probably five people ate, like, real shit on the... Well, they didn't actually. It's more of a luge than a sled. There's not a bunch of people in it. It's like a one person, one person. You can go pretty fast. And there are all these people in suits who fell off. Like Andy, I think gave his suit to Smith because he fell so hard and just got holes
Starting point is 00:10:14 everywhere. And yeah, no, it'll burn through your clothes. Ivan Carmel, like wasted a Columbia sportswear jacket. Yeah. Spilling off that thing. That's an interesting strategy for a wedding. Well, I went down like a gentleman, took my time, and had a blast. Was there an option for maybe the more
Starting point is 00:10:27 frail of the community? You could take a car back down. Okay, great, great, great. Yeah, right. Come on, man. For the wimps. Can you do a skeleton style where you go down head first? You couldn't. It felt like it was very not safe. It's a not safe ride.
Starting point is 00:10:43 It's not safe? No, that is like, for sure was built in the seventies. Yeah. You could easily, easily go flying out of it. A lot of people did. That was built when another thing that could happen was Russia might nuke us. So we might as well. It's not living on the edge of taking up too much room.
Starting point is 00:10:57 That's right. That's why I got a tattoo. Alison Herman. Hi. Back in the, back in the crib, not even in the studio this time. I know.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I know. Old tradition, new venue. I like that we're keeping it fresh. least for me i don't know i'm assuming you guys regularly live here most of the time this is very comfortable if i lived in this space i would record my podcast here all the time why wouldn't you there's a picture of larry david there's a variety of candles there's a there's an emmy directly in my sight line take a look at the emmy and a black belt next to it and a a black belt. Either way. We can get it done either way.
Starting point is 00:11:26 There's nunchucks. There's two pairs of nunchucks in that room. There are nunchucks in the house if it really pops off. Good to know. Hopefully it won't. Keep that in mind. Hopefully it won't.
Starting point is 00:11:33 There are plants. When someone makes a particularly egregious selection like say an eclipse. Oh yeah. Or judge Roy Moore. Now one of those I'll give you. The eclipse was a pop culture event. I went back to listen to it today. And no. Yes it is. No. Now that I was a pop culture event and I will stand by that
Starting point is 00:11:45 and no yes it is no now that I'm a little more confident and sure of myself I feel like you could have hedged it and said something like eclipse memes yeah but like the fact that you said the eclipse the eclipse was a pop culture situation I went to a party an eclipse party that's pop culture stuff so eclipse parties like that made me the it for pop culture stuff. So eclipse parties. That made me. Pop culture seems like something like had to be made by humans with the intention of adding to the culture for humans. And the eclipse is just a thing that happens
Starting point is 00:12:15 in the sky. And we don't even need to debate this because if it comes up again, I'll just go get some nunchucks. Yeah. We don't need to read that again. Stop keeping everyone in line. You're taking. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:12:54 caffeinate yeah you are what is going on that is weird that's an eggnog latte yeah today i was like i want to get coffeed up this morning man you, you don't caffeine. I don't really think about that. You're in a nog zone though right now. It's the snog season. Yeah, it's nog season. Nog champa. You got to really grab it by the lapels because it's not long. I kissed it right on the mouth. It is a not long season.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Now the PSL season is six months a year. We got to really treasure the. You do. The nog champa. It's a different nog thing. But I burned it in the background. I have some. You want me to light I burned it in the background. I have. So you only like some nog champa.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I mean, I'm going to be jacked up by the end of this. I'll get to it in a bit. Hey, Herman 2006 on Twitter. Yes, it is my former AIM username. For everyone wondering.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I've been asked. So I decided to just preemptively announce it. But yes, sticky McJew. Very embarrassing. Very embarrassing. Honestly, that would have been a better one. I should have just been Sticky McJew. You should have. It was taken.
Starting point is 00:13:52 On every platform. It was not available. Mine was JoeDierte187. JoeDierte. Is that because you put an E on the end of JoeDierte? You have a lot of 187s in your great names. My email still has 187. I'm really just reaping the long-term rewards of being very boring and uncreative.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Age 13. I was just like, Oh, my name in the year it is. And stuck with that forever. That settles it. Yeah. When you heard about one,
Starting point is 00:14:19 eight, seven, you were just like, great. That, that, that takes care of me. Murder.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Tell everybody, tell, tell target. Murder. Tell everybody. Tell Target.com. I don't give a shit. What do you mean you don't want me to submit for the half hour this year? It's got murder in my email. What are you talking about? Allison, writer and occasional podcaster for The Ringer.
Starting point is 00:14:38 A great website. A great website. A great website. A great website. What have you read or written recently that you'd like people to read? Well, you know, it's list season. It is very much list season. The best time of the year. So I collaborated with my colleague, Chris Ryan,
Starting point is 00:14:52 to name the 10 best television shows of the year in our esteemed opinion. And to accompany it, I wrote a nice little essay. So my year-end content. Amazing. You can consume it. Go check that out. Is this our fourth? I think this is our fourth time doing this. This is our fourth.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Isn't that crazy? I have a college degree in all fantasy everything. You do? Oh! There we go. Right? Is that what they do? As we go on, we remember all the times we
Starting point is 00:15:23 had together that and that Green Day song Time of Your Life, those were in my graduation video ours was Here's to the Night by Eve Six I had no choice in the matter I would swallow my mind, I would talk all the time
Starting point is 00:15:40 but the thought that I would leave me empty inside I would swallow my doubt, turn it inside I'll find nothing but faith in nothing I would swallow my doubt, turn it inside out. Find nothing but faith in nothing. That was Eve Six, right? I don't even know. Is that how that song went? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:50 No, that's a different Eve Six song. Oh. Hot in a blender, watching around. Here's to the night we felt alive. Yeah. Here's to the night you... Yeah, I didn't like it. Any Eve Six-related concerns will be fueled by Sean Jordan for the remainder of the episode.
Starting point is 00:16:05 So check out Allison's year-end content. This is crazy. It is crazy. It's crazy that AFV's been around for four years, but I guess it has. I remember sitting in that room, I think the first one I ever did, where you're just like,
Starting point is 00:16:15 hey, you want to come do my podcast today? I was like, sure. Yeah, what are we doing? What is that? Let's do it. The mall, I think, is what we were doing. No, that wasn't the first one. That was the first one. The mall was the first one we were all on that wasn't the first one that was the first one we were all on the gift we did together but the first one i did with you
Starting point is 00:16:30 well i can't remember now i can go back and find out on the internet this is also by far the most casual ask i feel like every other time you've like dm me and been like hey like i don't know if you'd be down to do the pop culture draft again and this year i just got a text that was like almost time for the draft. What's up? Well, now we've been to hotel birthday parties together. And once that's happened, you know what I mean? Once you hosted a karaoke event that I'm at. Exactly. That's a bond.
Starting point is 00:16:56 That's family now. God, that was tight. That was a fun one. I'm still surprised nobody ate shit on that weird step thing over into the... I stubbed my toe and it bled on that thing. I'll tell you that. I mean, that counts yeah i didn't fall though oh yeah i'm scared i get scared for this draft every year because every time i say something dumb well yeah sometimes you take roy moore and the eclipse in the same draft uh we were talking about you being in portland
Starting point is 00:17:19 you went to portland i did biscuits although it was a while ago but i did source almost all of my recommendations directly from you so danny chow would be another good resource now that he's been there and cataloged it hooked me up at han oak the owner is the nicest man in the world if you are in portland i highly recommend it's called it's called han oak i don't know portland well enough to tell you what neighborhood it's in southeast but i've never heard of it yeah what it what it is korean really yeah and like it's really really cool space where there's like a like half open air kind of like yeah just a really northeast my bad anyway it's in kerns but yeah we're talking about the biggest
Starting point is 00:17:57 problem in portland is finding out stuff to do between meals the food is so good that's the problem is like i mean most times when I travel places, it's really tough because I have like 40 restaurants I want to go to in three days and like maybe two other things that I want to do. But like Portland is really like the apex of that problem. So many good restaurants, so little other things to do. Unless you want to go like hike around,
Starting point is 00:18:20 which you probably should consider. I'm an indoors child. And also we did not rent a car. And most of the like quality hikes are, you know, you got to go how much food we eat. Yeah, I'm an indoors child and also we did not rent a car and most of the like quality hikes are, you know, you gotta go 25 miles outside the city. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would be willing to do it again but for my first run at Portland, I think what we ended up doing
Starting point is 00:18:35 was like we went to Powell's on the first day. Perfect. Got to. And just bought like four books each and then like anytime there was like a lull in what we were doing we would just like plonk ourselves down on the nearest bench and just like read for an hour and it was great it's a beautiful way to experience portland's got a fun downtown to walk around too it's yeah i yeah absolutely yeah uh cool guy jokes 87 on instagram the g sign on twitter david pory hey in the ether how you doing bubby i'm good man i got I'm all jacked up on this eggnog latte.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I wonder what this caffeine is going to do to you. I don't know what it's going to do. Man, you're about to blast off. This is a big risk to take. Yeah, this is the most caffeine I've taken at one shot. You're going to be on your whole system on trial. Possibly this might be my recap. It might be.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Eggnog latte. Two shots. Bong, bong. I think I've seen you drink a coffee once and it was very early on in our friendship and I think you just got it so I didn't feel weird for getting a coffee.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Probably. Yeah, because I don't even know if you drink it. Not drinking coffee is part of my like off-brand trifecta. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:35 What are the other two? I don't drink coffee. I'm not currently in therapy and I've never lived in Brooklyn. Whoa. Off-brand trifecta. Twins. Same year, man.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a great off-fair trifecta. They just make no sense considering everything else about me. Right. You do seem like you would actively, like you seem healthy, but like you would be in therapy.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Right. Like I seem like a person, I encourage other people to go to therapy on a regular basis. As do we. Absolutely. You also could have convinced me
Starting point is 00:20:02 that you biked here from Brooklyn right now. I would have believed that. Yeah, I get it. But anyways, watch my short film, The Lot. It's on Vimeo? Vimeo staff pick of the month and of the week. One before the other, I guess.
Starting point is 00:20:17 So yeah, watch that. And no, I don't have any dates. Keep your eyes on the horizon. How do they find it? They go to Vimeo? They look up David Borey or The Lot they find it they go to vimeo they look up david bori or the yacht or the lot i mean a lot on vimeo yeah you can go to my instagram i believe the link is in the bio david bori's in that shit yeah anna sarangina's in that shit oh yeah matt bronca's in that shit oh yeah uh natalie palomides's voice is in natalie palomides's voice is in that james
Starting point is 00:20:42 austin johnson john Charming and fantastic. Steph Tolev, Punky Johnson. Directed by? Steve Fine Arts. There it is. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Fun. Yeah, it was fun. I think it was very good. I thought it was wonderful, man. It was. Other than that, you know, yeah, just watch out.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I think I'm going to have some hoodies coming out next. There you go. It's hoodie season after all. I'm Ian Carmel, at Ian Carmel on Twitter, at Ian Carmel on Instagram. Sure. At Ian Carmel on Jewish 24-hour fitness tracker app.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Check it out. We're really capitalizing the mark. Was that called like Schvitz RS? Yeah, Schvitz. It's the MySchvitz app. It's a locate the closest acceptable steam room within a 50 mile radius i uh what do i have coming up not nothing really watch the late late show listen all fantasy everything come see me and sean jordan who is currently rocking a fairly loose cross
Starting point is 00:21:35 it's a loose cross that i'm used across yeah couldn't get tighter i don't think you really okay well maybe it's my angle it's my maybe my angle i suck my leg back in i guess but yeah this is a loose i think we're at we're at a cross spectrum like you're like legs fully akimbo you're a loose cross i'm at a tight cross that is a tight crowd yeah it's the evolution of the cross david's over there sitting though he's sitting caffeine boy i don't know what to do with him it's gonna be crazy i'll tell you that hang the punching bag up that's what that's what's gonna happen uh we'll be at comedy on State in Madison, Wisconsin, Valentine's Day weekend.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Sure will. More like Palentine's Day weekend because there'll be a couple of pals there doing stand-up comedy. Save it for the stage, bud. I'll do it there again. Holy buckets. I'll need it to be about half an hour
Starting point is 00:22:17 because I only have about 15 minutes that they haven't seen. So much easier middling. It's so much easier. Just kidding. I'll have new material buy tickets come out shake our hands buy one of bory sweatshirts and even if you don't have new material you'll think of some on the spot that's what i do when i can't fill the hour absolutely hey look at
Starting point is 00:22:35 this guy's shirt what are you what are you working at bass pro all right i'm just kidding i'm just kidding madison huh you guys like cheese And then that'll be about 45 minutes. Madison? My favorite Madison's Madison Paxton. She went to my high school. I just realized you guys are. That's all right. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:52 You can get into it. Not many famous Madisons in pop culture. There aren't. Well, you know the thing about Madison Paxton, though. Oh, no. Never mind. I'll tell you guys. It's a really weird.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I'll tell you guys afterwards. It's weird. She's not a public figure. We got to protect her privacy. Yeah. Well, in a way. afterwards. It's weird. She's not a public figure. We gotta protect her privacy. Yeah, well, in a way, yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, we won't bring it up. If he's not incorporated yet, we could all be sued individually. So let's keep it off the pod. We'll keep it off.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Oh, and keep an eye out for Game On whenever that airs. Who hasn't wanted to see me, Venus Williams, Rob Gronkowski, and Bobby Lee get up to various sports-related hijinks? That was literally my dream journal. Check it out on the Columbia Broadcasting System. My vision board for 2019.
Starting point is 00:23:31 It was just Ian Gronk and Venus and then like the Laker girls and a line and a question mark. I don't see it, man. I've got to trust the board. Just got to believe. We will get there. So that'll come out. Details forth gotta trust the Lord. Just gotta believe. We will get there. So that'll come out for the details forthcoming after the edit. Now we
Starting point is 00:23:50 are gathered here today, not only to give vague details about when Game On will be out. Sean, do you hear rain falling outside and it's confusing to you as you're in LA? I looked around like somebody was getting shot. Yeah, it just started raining out and I didn't know what to think of it. We are gathered here today. What is rain if not gunshots from heaven?
Starting point is 00:24:05 Damn, dude. Damn. Bro. I know my first pick. I know what my first pick's going to be now. We are gathered here today for an annual tradition, unlike any other. Marissa, if you want to put some fanfare trumpets behind this, I think that would be appropriate. I like you calling your shots lately on the production.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Because now it's like your equivalent of like oh turn the headphones up yeah yeah you make it make the cymbals how's my mic sound you know just i'm like kind of seems like when a director gives an actor their line readings for them it's like let them do their art yeah you know she's so good at it she doesn't need me to tell her that stuff it's me being insecure. Marissa, you do whatever it is you want to do and you've been doing for all these years. A tradition like no other,
Starting point is 00:24:51 it is the 2019 All Fantasy Everything pop culture draft. Now, the way we determine the order of that draft is with a rollicking game of rock, paper, scissors played between the three of you. We throw a shoot. Here we go. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Starting point is 00:25:05 It's the same way that I won yesterday. David wins again the same way he won yesterday. Something's going. Okay. All right. Grumpy Gus. David, as the winner of rock, paper, scissors, it is incumbent upon you to determine the order of today's draft.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Before you do that, I will remind you. It is a serpentine draft. What is that? That's a great question. It's like if you're on a hike and there's switchbacks all the way up to the top of the hike. I hate switchbacks. You just go like, well, I was thinking because we were talking about hiking earlier. I was thinking about Forest Park. This is personally me like
Starting point is 00:25:37 I hate switchbacks. I mean, would you rather go just like directly up a sheer cliff face? Show yourself, you coward! That's how I feel about switchbacks. I'm sorry. So, you know, you coward! That's how I feel about switchbacks. I'm sorry. So, you know, you're trying to get up to Piddock Mansion in Portland and you just go all the way to the right. I did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I just did this this last time. Piddock. You know, all the way to the right, then you switch back, go all the way to the left, and then you switch back, go all the way to the right, switch back, go all the way to the left. Before you know it, you have an amazing view of Portland. So that's the hike.
Starting point is 00:26:03 And an overview of pop culture in 2019. Oh! Professional. Alright. Now, David, with that in mind, what will the order of today's draft be? David, Allison, Sean,
Starting point is 00:26:20 Ian. Hot corner! Alright. And then back around. Okay, they get it. That is the order of the draft. Now, David, you were the first person on the clock. You were the first pick in the 2019 Pop Culture Recap draft. But before you do that, we're going to take a short break. This episode of all fantasy. Everything is brought to you by Schedule 35.
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Starting point is 00:33:05 limited time deal for our listeners right now you get up to 60 off your babble subscription but only for our listeners at babble.com slash all fantasy again get up to 60 off at babble.com slash all fantasy spelled b-a-b-b-e-l.com slash all fantasy rules and restrictions may apply yeah we're back welcome back to all fantasy everything David you are on the clock with the first pick that bit is so funny it is like the funniest bit it is the funniest
Starting point is 00:33:32 I laugh every time like an honest laugh so I thought a lot about it and this is one to me this one thing was just like such a like what the fuck is going on this time is so crazy i don't really even know what the significance of it was but it was crazy i'm picking the whole the rise and small of jesse small yet oh oh shit yeah it was like to start on yeah it was but it was just like this whole year
Starting point is 00:34:01 there's been things like that where i'm like what the fuck is happening and that's what i felt about that thing from when it first happened i was like because like not to brag i never thought it was real yeah because when it first happened you said it immediately that day i remember you saying yeah you remember that's true you did yeah i said i was i was like this is like i bullshit. For those of you who don't know, Jussie Smollett, actor known probably most famously for his role in the TV show Empire. Yeah. For sure.
Starting point is 00:34:32 That's what it smells like. Reported. Well, not anymore, most famously. Yeah. Prior to this event. Reported that he'd been attacked in Chicago by two, because he's gay, by two homophobic. By two MAGA guys guys he said they were wearing wearing trump hats yeah and they and they recognized him from empire at like two in the
Starting point is 00:34:52 morning on his way to subway to get a sandwich in chicago yeah so like that means that these two chicago dudes were hanging around yeah i guess boystown i don't know where he lives yeah and they were like oh there's the guy that plays the gay guy on emperor yeah us maga dudes recognize him yeah two o'clock in the morning it didn't at all jump the shark after season one yeah exactly there was no shark to jump when they started jumping they wrote wrote a shark in. I still watch it. They started in midair. Yeah, yeah. We joined our characters midair over a shark. That shit happened, and then he, like, went nuts.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Like, he was like, I'm the gay Tupac, and everybody was like, what? Or I was like, what are you doing? Like, I've just never watched a thing in pop culture go so fast, and it was, like, so indicative of just now and, like, what are people doing? Can you imagine how hard you have to work to be the craziest thing about a show that stars Terrence Howard? Terrence Howard is crazy. Yo.
Starting point is 00:35:55 He thinks 2 plus 2 is 5. He's crazy for real. And you beat in, like, and then when the story came out. And he lapped him. Yeah. And then when it was, like, you hired two Nigerian dudes. Paid him with a check. And like, the way they beat him up, they like poured bleach on him and put a noose around.
Starting point is 00:36:13 It was just, it was just such a like. Who's carrying around bleach? I guess Nigerian dudes. No, but for the story. Like, for the purpose of the plausibility of the story. Oh, yeah. That's the other thing. They saw him and they were like, thank God we have this bleach in this noose in our truck you weren't
Starting point is 00:36:29 gonna bring it out fred but i said bring it out we might catch a black tv star lucky day and then like yeah and then the charges were dismissed for some reason the whole thing is so yeah that was weird too the whole thing was so fucking crazy it, that was weird too. The whole thing was so fucking crazy. It was almost like so crazy that like, it obviously was a right-wing talking point at a Fox News thing, but I feel like if this happened in like 2012, it would have been like literally the only thing on Fox
Starting point is 00:36:55 for like eight months. And then now they were just like, we're just going to let this go. That's like a week tops. I feel like it happened in such a nutty year, but it was just like, that's one of the, as far as like a news story i feel like it happened in such a nutty year but it was just like that's one of the as far as like a news story that everybody was following that's one of the wilder things i've ever seen i i did not watch empire so for me the whole in this whole story
Starting point is 00:37:16 broke and because it was so serious and so laden with like so many layers of like you know for like homophobia and racism at first and then like falsifying that stuff and then cloud chasing cloud chasing that we never got to go to my biggest takeaway from the story which is that this guy's walking around named jussie well he's from he's from a whole family of actors and they all have j names yeah like one of the sisters is named jernay small at bell and she's great she are also like very talented actors who like you would think would be able to advise someone and like he has a handle on like the industry and how stuff works i think he's been an actor his whole it was it was just so crazy just it was
Starting point is 00:37:56 just so crazy his name's justin right this is so what the fuck is jesse no i thought his name was just too soon to really dig into his name not justin i think jesse i don't i think it's jesse no i thought his name was just too soon to really dig into his name not justin i i think it's jesse i don't i think it's jesse short for something is i thought his name was jesse small legal birth certificate name oh my god is it jesse that's wild no it's just wait no it's jesse wow jesse's a cool name it's an odd one let's not blame his parents who gave him that cool ass it's a whole other scandal in my eyes that his name is jesse well his parents are named janet and joel and then they had a theme his his yeah and then it's jake jokey jojo journey and jazz jazz those are those are his siblings jazz that's fucking he's the mighty And it's Jake, Jokey, Jojo, Journey, and Jazz. Jazz? Jazz.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Those are his siblings. Jazz. That's fucking... He was in the Mighty Ducks, Jesse Smollett. Really? Yeah, his name was Jesse. Yeah. Which is a name. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Anyways. Sorry, that was just... It was just in a crazy year that was like... No. It was one of the wilder things I've ever seen in my life. Absolutely. And what I like about it is it was a hundred percent pop culture
Starting point is 00:39:07 Allison all the time I'm just gonna continue aggressively sub tweeting Sean and then we're just not gonna acknowledge whatever I got some pics on here that'll piss you guys right off I guarantee you we're just gonna keep antagonizing you until you just come out like the ice caps are melting
Starting point is 00:39:23 global warming news change you until you just come out like the ice caps are melting. Guys, one through three. Anyway, I have a history of picking kind of abstract concepts is my first pick on this podcast. So I'm just going to keep running with that theme. And my first pick this year is class war, which is just an excuse to talk about a few things I really like. Yes. Suicide is number one. Succession is number War. Class War. Which is just an excuse to talk about a few things I really like. Yes. Parasite is number one.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Parasite was. Succession is number two. Well, now we're listing a whole bunch of picks. Wait, you can list Succession? Well, I feel like Succession could have
Starting point is 00:39:55 been its own thing. I mean, maybe it will be, but I'm just saying there's this theme in what I think are some of the best pieces of pop culture that you're collectively.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Claire, I don't let the professional critic go to work. Well, there we go. All right. So, I don't know any of the best, you know, pieces of pop culture. The professional critic. Go to work. Well, there we go. Right. So I don't know. Put your phone down and type your cross.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Knives out. Ready or not. I haven't seen Knives Out yet. I want to see it so bad. I mean, all you need to know is it's just about like a rich family and they all suck. And then the theme of the movies that they all suck. I did watch Gosford Park recently,
Starting point is 00:40:22 which did not come out this year. But it's, you know, an inspiration for Knives Out. That's what I heard. And also on Netflix recently, which did not come out this year. But it's, you know, an inspiration for Knives Out. That's what I heard. It also had Netflix now, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay, I gotta add that to the queue. I saw Knives Out two days ago. It's good. But it wasn't even the movie, dude. Oh. You walked into
Starting point is 00:40:37 this room and Sean and I were ready for you. Yeah, that was just, is that not what we're talking about? I thought that was the class war. Did we get sent knives? Who sent us knives? Kamikoto. Oh, knives uh oh we have some japanese kamikoto shout out to kamikoto yeah yeah i haven't used them yet but they look sharp yeah they think all right knives out ready or not i don't know if anyone saw that another great oh my god ready not it's so good it's just like an incredibly well made like pulpy thriller where this woman, she's played by Samara weaving. Who's been in like a bunch of TV shows.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Like you'd probably recognize her. Yeah. Marries into this rich family. Um, and then like on her wedding night, of course they have some like fucked up a cult ritual. Yeah. Like survive.
Starting point is 00:41:16 You have to like play a game and like she draws hide and seek. And then like, they're all trying to hunt her to the death. And it's basically like, they're all terrible sociopaths and she has to try to survive. but it's one of it's another one of those like you know rich people are terrible the accumulation of capital is unethical blah blah happened completely i was never aware of it existing it was so great it was her for halloween but it's also one of those things that's going to be like it's a horror so it's going to do like really great on like vod or
Starting point is 00:41:43 right right or something like you will have a lot of opportunities to watch this. But I'll just put that on everyone's radar. Excellent. And then also one of my favorite documentaries of the year is called American Factory. And that's on Netflix. Yeah. Yeah. And that's also about like jobs and work and labor and, you know, capitalism being awful and i just think like they're you know in the real
Starting point is 00:42:07 world we've kind of experienced this shift from like obama era identity politics to like oh shit maybe we should have been talking about like money and how that works all along and i feel like this year there were just a lot of really great pieces of pop culture that kind of crystallized that uh rage and frustration right we're. Right. I think that's totally where we're at. We're seeing the pop culture reaction to the idea where the whole Joe Biden might as well be a fucking George W. Bush
Starting point is 00:42:33 kind of thing that's happening on Twitter. Which this is a very pro who did we decide back in the election? Should we decide right now? Are y'all Yang Gang? Is that what's about to happen? I was going to write in DJ Quick, but I didn't know how you guys... I was going to write in DJ Qual. should we decide right now are y'all is that what's about to happen yeah i was gonna write i wanted to be quick but i was gonna write a dj qual
Starting point is 00:42:48 okay yes quick quals 2020 so we're doing a quick wall sticking across the board but if not him you know what i mean and that is one person quick i will say american factory will make you respect sharon brown so much oh really yeah there's like a just a scene where it's about this
Starting point is 00:43:05 former GM plant that shuttered and got rid of all the great union jobs in, I think it's Dayton, Ohio. And then the factory reopens under Chinese ownership. And of course, like the safety is nowhere near as good and they're super anti-union, blah, blah, blah. But Sherrod Brown, you know, gives a speech at the opening to be like, we're so glad this company decided to take its business here. But then in the middle of the speech with like the executives of this Chinese conglomerate, like sitting right in front of him, he goes like, and I've also heard that the workers of this factory are considering unionizing. And we obviously have a great history in Ohio of collaboration between workers and management. I want to really encourage you in your efforts to do that. And then he walks away and the cameras
Starting point is 00:43:44 are following the Chinese executives and they have like a shit fit. It's incredible. Yeah. So like huge respect to Sherrod Brown. That's a really great documentary. It's probably going to get nominated for an Oscar this year, but that was just a very cerebral explanation.
Starting point is 00:43:59 But I just want to go out by saying Parasite fucking slaps. What a movie. Yo, I saw it twice in theaters. Same. That shit was hard on the scene i gotta see this isn't a spoiler but when the daughter is smoking a cigarette on top of the thing on top of the toilet oh that's like one of the best shots i've ever seen i mean the entire time it's been theaters was like the busiest month two months of my life
Starting point is 00:44:22 so now i actually could like next week see it, but like, I need to. It's also a screener season. WGA, you have screeners coming. Yeah, just watch the screener. I got some in the bathroom. I don't know why they're in the bathroom. Hold on, I'll go grab one. Keep talking. That is the most
Starting point is 00:44:40 like, fuck you. I'm a TV writer. I don't even care about these screeners. I'm just going to throw them in the bathroom. It is. It is always such a treat as somebody who I, you know, I worked at a call center for the last year and a half.
Starting point is 00:44:54 So when he gets those screeners, I'm like, Oh shit, this is tight. I don't live with anybody in the WGA. You don't get any, you don't get it. I guess I just figured you would for some reason. I people at SAG get them? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I'm not in that either. People who work at call centers don't get them. Do you get them? You get them, right? I don't get them for movies. I get them for TV stuff. Oh, okay. But I can get into screenings,
Starting point is 00:45:16 which I actually like because you do get the theater experience. But I saw it for the first time a month before it came out because I was like, I am pumped and jacked for this release. I'm going to see this as soon as I can and it was so good that I was like I will absolutely pay my own money to go see this. I not only paid my own money, I paid Arclight money which for those who live in Los Angeles is nearly
Starting point is 00:45:36 20 damn dollars for a movie. It is. And it was worth every penny. I'll keep it real. I have AMC stubs but that screener patch was I don't like some of these might get taken, but it was the rocket man. The last Avengers movie. My list is getting shorter.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Just because we're saying them right now. It doesn't mean you can't take this stuff. All right. Several skateboarding videos. What? No, I'm just joking. We can't really talk about parasite.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Ian hasn't seen it, but I'm assuming you've seen succession, right? Oh yeah. All right. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I still have joking. We can't really talk about Parasite and Death of Ian hasn't seen it, but I'm assuming you've seen Succession, right? Oh, yeah. All right. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I still haven't finished this last season of Succession.
Starting point is 00:46:12 I don't know. What's wrong with you? I keep forgetting. I could have finished it. What? How far did you get? Watch it. I'm like two episodes into season two. Bro.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Oh, you're so much ahead of you. I keep forgetting. It gets good. You're going to have such a good time. Yeah, I'll do it. I keep forgetting. Put on a thick sweater. Oh my God. It gets good. You're going to have such a good time. Yeah, I'll do it. I keep forgetting. Put on a thick sweater. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:28 A shiv style sweater from the series premiere. Exactly. Slip on a few Kieran Coakley bracelets. Eat chicken off of someone else's plate. You'll get that joke later. Tom Wamsgams. Wamsgams. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:46:44 It got like, I mean, it just jumped another, like several levels. Yeah, I was team like literally more than half of season one. I was like, I don't get this. I hate this. Everyone is wrong. Yeah. Especially because I work with like literally the biggest succession fans on the planet. I think, you know, HBO probably owes Chris Ryan like some residuals or something because he has
Starting point is 00:47:05 been writing for that show since day one. I kept watching it. Right. And then I, you know, my turning point is like episode seven of season one, which is a lot to watch, but it just really figured itself out by the end of the first season.
Starting point is 00:47:18 And then at the second season, it starts at like basically the same level where it ended season one and then get even better. It's crazy it's really good and like no one agrees on anything in tv now and everyone was like this show is great and it doesn't have you know any it's not like you know reese witherspoon is in it there's not a movie star the writer is like a fucking you know cynical british dude who worked for armando for a while and it just somehow became this like
Starting point is 00:47:46 giant giant giant like critical hit and it's awesome it is it is what it's it i mean there was another thing this year that was definitely monoculture but like this at least and we have to remember we live in los angeles and with that it was absolutely like for the subset of people who like tweet about television shows even amongst our community it was it's hard to find monoculture anymore. And it was like it fucking other than Sean, it took out like. Well, and it airs every week. So like there would be like a whole effect of everyone kind of chewing over the latest episode together. And it's just like it is about the thing that culture is right now which is like it's about the people who
Starting point is 00:48:25 are just eating the world and how terrible they are but also how fascinating it is and we kind of better get to know them because their weird psychology is now dictating our everyday existence exactly so it's that's your man i love it but yeah i feel like there's kind of a unifying theme so i wanted to start with that. Fantastic. Totally. Appreciate it as always. And 100% that on. Yeah. Sean.
Starting point is 00:48:52 I mean, that's going to be more different. I don't even know if this is going to count. Sean's standing in the corner facing the corner like the end of Blair Witch right now. He's nervous. He doesn't know what to do. I'm eating paint. It's time for my pick. Yes, it is. I'm going to pick White Claw. Okay!
Starting point is 00:49:07 Yeah! I think that counts. Yeah, White Claw Summer. Cool. Look at that! Absolutely! Yeah. We're all so proud of you. I know. I feel great. I got goosebumps. That is a fantastic pick. That is a great fucking pick. Couldn't be more different than what you just said. You just fucking nailed it, dude.
Starting point is 00:49:23 I know. You can probably. I feel like there's like three degrees of think piece separation between class worn white cloth. Oh, you can get there. Absolutely. We're basically drinking malt liquor, but it's dressed up like it's a Columbia Sportswear ad. Yeah. It is.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Definitely affected me this year. White cloth did. It was a big part of my year. It's a malt beverage. It went big. I remember last summer. I'm not bringing up. It just, it went big this year.
Starting point is 00:49:46 The first time I saw White Claw, I think, was we went to Malloy's house. We had a bunch of raspberry in his pool. A bunch of raspberry White Claws. And I was like, oh, those will get you there. Yeah. That was the summer. That was the first time I had them. What?
Starting point is 00:49:59 Last time? No, this was introduced. I mean, to our community, at least by Nick Manpay, maybe like a year and a half ago, at least for me. Yeah. Yeah. And then Mike, we had him in Faded last year. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Are we, we're drinking him last year for sure. First time I remember was this summer in Mike's pool. In summer. Yeah. Well, that's. Either way, either way. White Claw was a big deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Yeah. That's, I don't know. And then 10 headaches later you realize. Oh my God. It's maybe not not i just like how like lacroix was a thing for a while and then everyone was like what if we had this but we could get fucked up yeah that is what it is and then it just immediately became bigger than look right everyone it's exploded natty light makes us hard seltzer oh yeah there's all of them there's truly
Starting point is 00:50:41 or something which is like a sparkling wine you can buy hard seltzer tall cans oh yeah every day there's so many at ralph's so many different kinds like we really just want to get fucked up it's malt liquor it is malt liquor it does play in the class war we because we do just want to get fucked up i mean i used to drink malt liquor all the time and i've since stopped and now that's like a new way to be like all right it's like crooked eye i mean same kind of concept and now there's like memes that there to be like, all right, it's like Crooked Eye. I mean, same kind of concept. And now there's like memes that there ain't no laws when you're drinking White Claws. Also like not even in 10 years
Starting point is 00:51:11 and like five years, White Claws is going to be the new Smirnoff Ice. Like people are going to surprise people with White Claws and force them to chug them on camera. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Because it started like, it's not cool. It just started popular. And so it's like even closer to being uncool and semi-ironic.
Starting point is 00:51:27 It started jumping the shark. Yeah. If you want to get all hammered, nobody wants it to taste bad. That's always been my whole thing. It all is gross. Zach, can you step a bit about it? That's why I love a fancy cocktail. That's my prefer way to drink because it's like I want something to taste good.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Trojan horse me. Yeah, absolutely. I don't want to know. That's also get you in trouble. That's like at the wedding. I went to that alcoholic popsicles. I really three of them. And then I woke up in my hotel room
Starting point is 00:52:01 after having officiated this wedding. I was sober when I officiated. Don't worry. I think Ian's going to do our wedding. I'm already crying. I'm going to cry so much. Man. I'm going to have it together in a big way.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I bet you are. In a big way. I might put a vest on. I'm going to steer that ship. Someone's going to have to. I might have a captain's hat on. We'll see. It depends on what venue you guys pick.
Starting point is 00:52:29 White Claw. Yeah, White Claw. This time, like, well, you don't know Kelly's Olympian in Portland? It has a sign in front of it all the time that says, no, Karen, we don't have White Claw. You can't. You're in Portland. You're in Portland. You know your audience. Come on. Well, that in Portland. You're in Portland. Know your audience.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Come on. Well, that's also, now you're making it a gender thing. So it's like Dennis Lear with the Ford commercials. Right. You want to fucking me otter? You want to be a man?
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah. What? Yeah. You shouldn't enjoy your alcohol. That shit's insane. Yeah. If you're a man, it should suck to drink alcohol.
Starting point is 00:52:59 You should grimace every time you do it and you should fucking fester the pain. You guys sell fucking like every, like you can get Jell-O shots and Red Bull. Like chill out. You guys aren't better. You're not a whiskey library. You schmucks.
Starting point is 00:53:10 For God's sake. Anyway, time for my first pick. The Whiskey Library, Sean's second album. The Whiskey Library. Yep. Oof. Okay. Man, there's so many good things to pick here I'm going to take DaBaby's entire
Starting point is 00:53:29 year sure yeah I don't love that his name is DaBaby I struggle with that all the time I think DaBaby's a fun name I remember when he called himself Big Baby Jesus he called himself Big Baby Jesus also for two in his timing same year as the I'm Baby meme it It is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Works out well. And Lil Baby's rice. And they did a song together. Yeah. Yeah. I'm baby. Duh baby. I guess babies could have been another.
Starting point is 00:53:54 That would have been your version of class. There's even another baby. Whoa. But I won't take it because it's probably on your list and I don't want to spoil it. Who knows? Yeah. Duh baby's entire year. Like Shug is just such a fucking enjoyable rap single and he did it out of charlotte he did it out of charlotte which is amazing he's funny he's all
Starting point is 00:54:13 little he's tiny his videos are so fun it's a little i those of you who listen to the podcast regularly know how much we all all of us in general and me i think maybe specific love know how much we all all of us in general and me i think maybe specifically love fucking music videos i just love them it's maybe my favorite art form and he's so good at them yeah the one for bop on broadway is like yeah he's like a cartoon character he's like his videos remind me of buster rimes videos which is like such a high compliment 100 like so much they seem like color and like yeah the humor to them yeah it feels like it all feels like the give me some more videos yeah that and like there's probably not i mean as far as music that came out this year i probably listened to the baby more than anybody else i can't see i hate
Starting point is 00:54:54 saying the baby it feels very weird i love it i i like the fact that you are up on things like that because that's how i get up on them yeah because I would have found out who DaBaby was last night if I didn't know these two. I don't know, man. He was pretty huge. I bet I wouldn't have... I'll tell you, I haven't heard a thing about him when I wasn't around you two. I didn't even find out about him because of music. I found out about him because when he made that
Starting point is 00:55:17 21 video, these guys ran up on him and he was like, no, that's not how it's going. And then that got viral. And then I was like, this guy's hilarious. He beat up somebody in a jewelry store. He did beat up somebody in a jewelry store. Also real fun.
Starting point is 00:55:31 What happened? Wait, what happened in the first scenario that you're talking about? These guys like ran up on him when he was shooting a video and they were like. Like trying to rob him? Yeah, whatever. Just like you got to kind of pay taxes. And he was just like smoking a blunt with the camera crew. And he no that's not how this is gonna go and then these dudes just like walked away oh that's sick i had no idea he's fun he brought the jabberwockies out on snl last night
Starting point is 00:55:56 yeah you know he's not like the bet he's not like the most original mc or whatever whatever but like i know rappers like five different things it's five different things he shows up on amazing songs yeah he's on the megan the stallion remix he's fantastic he's always running around he's always running around his videos are great got all that energy no artist brought more joy to my life than him this year so yeah fucking shout out to the baby's entire 2019 oh yeah good on you and then with my second pick, I guess I'll, I have to take my favorite movie.
Starting point is 00:56:28 I'm going to take once upon a time in Hollywood. Nice. I had that on my long list. The movie. I enjoyed the most. Probably just had the best time. That was the movie. You had the best time at this year.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I loved it. I couldn't, it's like mid range. I just, it's, it was mid range. I'm just saying for me, I just felt, I was watching it and it was like late at night'm just saying for me i just felt i was watching it and
Starting point is 00:56:46 it was like late at night and i was with zach so obviously stoned as hell yeah but i just kept waiting for it to like start and then it was over i think that's what's interesting about it is that like i remember leaving the movie the first time i saw it and turning to my friend and just being like oh like he's really getting older because like it's chill in a way that all of Tarantino, you just expect it to be so tight and rapid fire. And the fact that it's a mellow hangout movie is super weird from him. I think just the best stuff in that movie
Starting point is 00:57:16 is why I go to a movie theater and it's everything I want. It is not my favorite Tarantino. I have some reservations about it we can maybe talk about. But it's still just how great is it that we got a fucking Quentin Tarantino movie with Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio and Margot Robbie? Amazing. I don't know. They are all amazing at acting.
Starting point is 00:57:36 It is astonishing. The couple scenes where Nardo, like where he's got that girl in his lap. It's just like a clinic on how to act. It's crazy. That whole, I mean, that whole, whatever you want to call it, that like sequence. That whole part of the movie. The whole thing where they're on the set of his TV show
Starting point is 00:57:49 and you see him doing sexy Hamlet. And then he keeps feeding in the lines and he keeps reshooting. And he's like, he's acting like four different ways. It's crazy. And Brad Pitt is so charming and fun in it. With him in the trailer, like, yeah, they have nine whiskey sours.
Starting point is 00:58:01 You couldn't have stopped after three whiskey sours because you're a fucking alcoholic. That's why. It's like so funny. It's a funny thing to see Leonardo DiCaprio get to do, too. But Brad Pitt peeling his shirt off on that one. Tarantino gave some quote
Starting point is 00:58:15 where he was like, yeah, when you are looking through the monitor at Brad Pitt just shooting raw footage, you feel like you are in a movie theater. It's just like that is the energy he gives off. That scene where he goes to the Manson complex or whatever. Spoilers. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Yeah. I guess people, I get, yeah, if you haven't seen, we're going to spoil it kind of. I mean, there's a lot more spoilable stuff in that movie.
Starting point is 00:58:39 I feel like the basic gist of the movie is no. Anyway, so yeah, when he goes there and he like beats the shit out of that guy who won't change his tire for him, it's just so fun. Well, because all the reservations Iist of the movie is no anyway so yeah when he goes there and he like beats the shit out of that guy who won't change his tire for him it's just so fun well because all the all the reservations i have about the movie are kind of like tied up in his character and like i don't really know exactly what tarantino is going for and the fact that like it's implied he might have killed his wife that was so weird and the way and the way the ending it really wasn't there
Starting point is 00:59:00 just brush over it a couple times well it's it's weird because like I trust Tarantino enough to think that there was something he was trying to go for because like the way the ending plays out really, when you compare it to like Inglourious Bastards where it's like, yeah, fuck, torch the Nazis, kill Hitler. Like that's a very uncomplicated form of like, hell yeah, horrible violence. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:21 And like the way it plays out in the movie is like, first of all, it's not Charles Manson who gets like murked at the end he's fine that's that's a big spoiler sorry we're spoiling just hit that 30 second skip button i told him and you can't really if we're gonna talk about a movie you have to say also let me just say finding out any especially movie that's been out six months but like or maybe not quite that long but like there's no detail you can find out about once upon a time in hollywood that will ruin your experience of watching right i'm also a big believer in like i can know the entire plot of a movie and if it's like a good enough watching experience i don't think performances are so good i don't think it's gonna yeah like the way the ending happens is like charles manson is
Starting point is 01:00:00 not who gets murked it's these like kind of confused drugged out teenagers who in the movie have not actually like done anything terrible yet and so it feels very different when you're watching Brad Pitt like smash a teenage girl's face into a mantle than it does to watch like a Jewish woman like murder a bunch of Nazis
Starting point is 01:00:19 it's not like the racial catharsis that he's had no racial catharsis like Django whipped ais that he's had no racial catharsis right like it wasn't like slave master yeah it's not that it was like whoa brad pitt smashed that lady's face it was a little bit jarring yeah a little bit like that doesn't sink the movie because brad pitt is brad fucking pitt so like i can't even help it but like he totally swept away in the moment because he's killing people amazing yeah that that was great yeah just when he's like whoa like his delivery of that line he licks the dog food ah there's just it's a movie full of like moments like so
Starting point is 01:00:58 many fun moments yeah sure um but yeah i don't i just it's just such a i saw twice in the theaters and i i don't know i don't earnestly do not remember the last time i did that with any movie i saw it really stoned once and then i went not stoned enjoyed it just as much i think the other time but like yeah they're just great moments i thought margot robbie did like so much with a role where she didn't really talk that much which i know is another criticism but she did like such an amazing job with it i thought yeah well it was interesting that was like I kind of I wasn't like oh she didn't talk but the way the movie uses her is like it did make me a little like kind of not
Starting point is 01:01:35 uncomfortable but like she's sort of like an abstract figure in a background player and like these two dudes stories yes for sure but then I remember i listened to an interview tarantino and he was like she's a real person i wanted to be respectful to her i didn't want to turn her into a quentin tarantino character which was a really interesting way to put it yeah although he did go ahead and do that with bruce lee yes he did he sure did but i also enjoyed but there was another way to view that which was that it was like a it was Brad Pitt's character's remembrance of that sequence of events
Starting point is 01:02:12 it literally like zooms in on his face but that's the thing is I like that I think a lot of people just throw up their hands and are like oh my god the discourse but I actually did find most of the debate around that movie to be very like respectful i thought so too and it was like fun to talk about yeah and it was never like
Starting point is 01:02:30 fuck this movie it was like oh this is like a great movie but like also let's talk about the specific aspect of it and it's nice to have a movie that like everyone is watching and taking seriously enough that we can talk about that kind of thing so man some people reject the discourse too i totally understand it but like too quickly i was trying to talk about port kind of thing. So man, some people reject the discourse too. I totally understand it, but like too quickly, I was trying to talk about Portlandia with another guy from Portland on Twitter the other day and like just disagreed with one of his points and immediately turned into this, like, like a big deal, got hostile all of a sudden. And I was just like, oh man, come on. Oh, all right. Um, anyway, uh, yeah. Once upon a time in Hollywood, I really enjoyed it. I hope you see it.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Again, if anything was spoiled, go see it anyway. It's so good. Sean, time for your second pick. I'm going to pick Old Town Road. All right. That was honestly what I thought David was leading up to. And he was like, this one crazy thing. Oh, no, but I did love that as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I love that guy's hole. Again, that was another thing. I had no idea what it was until David showed up here one day and he's like this fucking song knocks you gotta hear it because we listened to it a bunch for about two months David would play it everywhere turn it up was this pre Billy Ray Cyrus
Starting point is 01:03:36 remix I heard it before the Billy Ray Cyrus remix but I didn't like it as much because it was good but then that Billy Cyrus you're just like what is going on yeah he's rapping about Fendi sports bras yeah I'm correct in saying that he stepped in
Starting point is 01:03:51 he stepped in like to make it a country song again right so it could be like number one on the charts is that really what happened it was on the country charts and then they said it wasn't a country song so Billy Ray's like I'll do I'll join it and make it a country song then Then it went back to number one. Right?
Starting point is 01:04:06 And he said. Didn't it become like his first Grammy nomination? I think so. Because he's on. Pretty rad. That's wild. Yeah. That's just such a cool thing.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I don't think he has more views now, though. Does it really? Will Nas X. Or maybe not. It cut in a way. He's huge, though, too. But yeah, Old Town Road is a fun little time. It was a fun little time.
Starting point is 01:04:24 I just got stoked. David's got this dance that he does when he's in a super good mood that I think is really fun to watch. Wait, do it. I can't do it. It's like, I don't know. You just like when you hear something that you like and that's new, you have it and you'll put a smile on your face
Starting point is 01:04:37 and you'll look up to the left a little bit and be like, oh, shit. And it's fun to me because it immediately gets me excited. So that day I remember that. I was like, it's really, it's fun to me because it immediately gets me excited. So that's that day. I remember that. I was like, it's fucking just pretty tight. That one side, that one song in the moment, it had like so much momentum. Yeah. Cause there was the, being number one on the country charts, getting kicked off that part of the story, then getting back on the Billy Ray Cyrus thing.
Starting point is 01:04:58 And he's so good at Twitter. He's so good. That was the best part was that he would, he just openly makes jokes about like how he's gaming the charts and how he's a good that was the best part was that he would he just openly makes jokes about like how he's gaming the charts and how he's a one hit wonder and like the way
Starting point is 01:05:10 he performs the self-awareness while also being like very genuine and pure is like that dude can internet yeah
Starting point is 01:05:17 he's a fun little thing to see happen you know and it had it was a happy ending which doesn't happen most of the fucking time he hasn't milkshake ducked himself yet so no he really he's really savvy i think he'll be okay
Starting point is 01:05:32 he seems like it i hope so i hope so too okay came out as gay like during the whole thing i didn't know that oh you didn't know that no yeah yeah even oh he had a great tweet that was like wow like my life is crazy a year ago i was like sleeping on my mom's couch and broke and blah blah blah and now i'm gay yeah and that was 2019 baby he's so he was so good at 2019 i mean that song i mean that's maybe the most 2019 thing also i gotta, not really a plug, but the New York Times does this really cool video series called Diary of a Song,
Starting point is 01:06:09 where this journalist just interviews like all the people who are involved in like the production of a particular pop music thing. They did one for The Middle a while ago that was really good, but the Old Town Road one is awesome. The Middle, the Jimmy World song? No.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Oh, damn. I got it. Mary Morris, right? Yeah, featuring Mary, but they- I don't you maybe in the middle. Of course, that? No. Oh, damn. Maren Morris, right? Yeah, featuring Maren. But they- I don't you maybe in the middle. Of course, that's what we're talking about. But as part of that video, they play all the samples of different pop singers singing that
Starting point is 01:06:34 hook. And they talk about how they chose the Maren Morris one. But the Old Town Road one is like, they talk to the producer who lives in Amsterdam and they talk to Lil Nas X and it's- Whoa. Yeah. It's like a really good like look into how the song got made.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Are you involved in it at all? No, it's just, I'm just being a member of the media who's just like praising a well made piece of media. Is it behind a paywall? It's in the New York Times, so it depends how many articles you've done. Not in this month. It's still fairly early in the month, although when this drops, it won't be. Also, it's not really early in the month anymore.
Starting point is 01:07:03 The 8th? Man. Yeah. It's not double digits yet the month anymore. The eighth? Man, yeah. It's not double digits yet. I think we're fine. Lil Nas X. Yeah, absolutely. Old Town Road. The video has so many famous people in it again. Yeah. Chris Rock.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Vince Staples is really funny. Vince Staples is great in it. Yeah. Is Brad Pitt in the video? Isn't Brad Pitt in the video? I don't know. Wait a minute. I think you're's fun Brad Pitt in the video isn't Brad Pitt in the video I don't know I think that's just I think you're confusing how Brad Pitt like loves Frank Ocean and showed up at that concert I was there I didn't know that either it was weird it was at FYF when Frank Ocean showed up yeah we saw each other that year at FYF we did we did that was a good FYF second time FYF has come up today. We were texting about it earlier.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Frank Ocean did. And then like. I was so far back that like I didn't understand why everyone started screaming. And then like the next day I saw something that was like Brad Pitt walked out on stage and Frank Ocean. And it was like. Well, they had his face on these big video screens. But like if you weren't up close, it just seemed like maybe he had a video that like Brad Pitt.
Starting point is 01:08:07 But Brad Pitt was on the side of the stage just watching Frank Ocean. That's rad. Yeah. More like Rad Pitt. I would do that so much if I was famous. I'd just be going to shows like, can I just be on the side of the stage and watch? That's like the best. And everybody would be like, yo, Sean came out during the Baby Shark concert.
Starting point is 01:08:26 White claws everywhere. I'm just a huge fan of the wiggles. Baby Shark is like Old Town Road Junior. It was just the omniscient. It kind of is, isn't it? It's crazy. Yo, we gained the system this year. On the Late Late Show, we did a Baby Shark parody.
Starting point is 01:08:42 We're just like, we had, I forget who we had do it, but it was, we were just just like everybody's looking at Baby Shark here's an easy way to get like 5 million views SEO baby yeah Sophie Turner and Josh Groban 9.5 million hits just wild Baby Shark
Starting point is 01:08:57 it was entertaining but it's because it's Baby Shark Allison tell me your second pick alright I'm a white woman who writes about TV It's because it's baby shark. Allison, tell me your second pick. All right. I'm a white woman who writes about TV. I got to pick Fleabag. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Yeah. Fair man. They were acting their mother fucking asses off. I liked, but did not love the first season of Fleabag, which for those of you who are unaware is a show, TV show created by, written by and starring Phoebe Walloebe waller bridge who is now everywhere but it started as like a literal one-woman show on the stage at the edinburgh
Starting point is 01:09:32 fringe and like i think 2013 the bbc adapted it in 2016 it was like distributed by here by amazon i liked it i remember thinking like for the first half i thought it was a little like bridget jonesy and then i saw what it was doing that was like different from that and respected it but also was kind of like that was cool i don't know if i need any more that's how i felt about the first season too it was it was good yeah it was like really good it was more like because then because then she made killing eve which is fucking amazing and i was like oh great like she's just gonna go do like other cool things she'll do one series and this was how she kind of like made a name for herself and then she decided to do a season two and it is like literally perfect television it is so like she had clearly
Starting point is 01:10:17 a thing she wanted to do because the season is sort of this rom-com between fleabag this like really damaged shut off character who basically in the aftermath of everything that's happened in season one is like trying to improve herself and sort of doing better but is mostly doing it she's shut off she's like not allowing herself to like connect with other people because she's like i'm toxic and i hurt everyone so i can't be close with others yeah not that they say that but then in season two she meets a catholic priest played by andrew scott who unbelievably is gay in real life because he has insane chemistry with phoebe waller bridge they are they are in real life friends like you definitely think they
Starting point is 01:10:57 want to bang yeah their characters definitely do and you know it's this sort of like absurd like of course when she finally like falls someone who finds someone who like really understands her and falls in love with her he can't be with her for obvious reasons and so it's this incredibly bittersweet but like so funny and you realize how much they've developed this entire cast of characters even though the entire show is 12 episodes it has a perfect ending that completely communicates like what the show was trying to say closes off the character's journey it's just so sharp like the script should literally be too though like yeah brett gellman man well the
Starting point is 01:11:40 script should literally be in a museum but then the fact that i think she's a writer and an actor means like the casting is amazing right and like it did insanely well at the emmys this year which is just so wild to me i literally i thought it wouldn't be nominated i was just like it's like a good but like weird small british show like of course not and then it swept but like literally like fiona shaw got nominated for a single scene where she plays Fleabag's therapist or like somebody got the director got nominated. The director won. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Yeah. It was just a really cool like success story. I fear that we may have overinflated the Phoebe Waller bridge bubble and like something bad is going to happen next. But for now, it's just like didn't Amazon give her like one of those $20 million that's an old timey deal that takes me back to
Starting point is 01:12:33 ABC in the 90s that's you have your 15 minutes and we'll make you a star you're going to be a teacher and a sitcom I like that that voice is now in the 1990s yeah like that and Succession were
Starting point is 01:12:48 so that and Succession were like the tied for number one on like our year endless because I was talking about it with Chris and it was just like yeah like those were the two shows that's what everyone Fleabag had the word of mouth campaign of that show it's like nothing else I've experienced I think since I've been down is like nothing else I've experienced. I think
Starting point is 01:13:05 since I've been down here, like everyone was talking about it all the time, you know, like, yeah. Corden would come in and be like a fleabag is so good. You know what I mean? Like, and then like, you'd see someone at a coffee shop and they're talking about, I also full disclosure watched it after I had gone through like a pretty shitty romantic rejection. And so like my review period between read between the lines it's like it's all about her like you know even if she gets her heart broken in the end it's like ultimately worth it to put herself out there so i'm just gonna drop that intel like hour two of this podcast i don't know if anyone remembers that but like you know it really it really does capture
Starting point is 01:13:44 like i did see someone else tweet about it where it's like the season of fleabag is amazing but if you've been through any kind of romantic trauma it is so so so scarring so close to the bone but it's because she really really gnarly it just really gets at like being a person and it's sort of about this like very abstract but very relatable experience of like how do you forgive yourself and start to like move on from being you know your own indiscretions and i feel like that's like every tv show the last 20 years that's like every anti-hero show right but it manages to do that both in like way less time and i think like ends on an ungenuinely like hard one uplifting note that made me feel even as i was like sobbing like very optimistic and it's just
Starting point is 01:14:26 such an achievement watch Fleabag season do you and there's a lot of people say you don't have to watch season one do you feel like that's true no you gotta watch season one I think you need well because it like you get the stuff it does with the characters like with the sister and with the stepmom and like all the baggage she's bringing in and also you know just like why she is in the pit she's in at the beginning and the whole thing is 12 episodes so it's not like the whole one's a huge shot
Starting point is 01:14:53 but I think if you came into the second one without watching the first one it's not like I mean like it's good enough that you can appreciate it but you don't want the momentum of watch both of them playback season 2. David time for your second and third picks. Also, real quick, it also gave us the picture of Phoebe Waller-Bridge after the Emmys. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Which is one of the greatest. Posted up at the Chateau. So sick. Three Emmys around her. Is she smoking a cigarette? She's like laid out. Wait, like holding like a vodka gimlet. Just splayed out.
Starting point is 01:15:21 In this gorgeous dress. Just like fucking triumphant, man. It was such a, ah, just like dope triumphant man it was such a uh just like dope one of the dope pictures yeah uh david sorry tom peter's like on third picks uh my second pick is well second it's it's the same pick but i'm taking megan the stallion and the hot girl summer oh hot girl summer that was just like and i wasn't even involved in it it's just like to watch that like what a movie. You didn't have a hot girl summer.
Starting point is 01:15:47 I didn't have a hot girl summer. And then even the hot girl summer. Yeah, you did. Yeah. It was just a cool movement to see and to see that as like become like almost like a battle cry for the summer. And I just love the idea of like an artist coming through and doing something like that. And then to have the offshoot,
Starting point is 01:16:10 like little Duvall tried to have like the city boys summer. And then people were taking score. And it was like, it was like a really, it was just a really fun thing to see move through. Fun organic thing to happen. For a time. Also the arms race to come
Starting point is 01:16:26 up with like an equally catchy term for fall was like thought of. Yeah. There was the SNL joke about school librarian autumn for a little more. It just, but it wasn't, it shouldn't have got, it shouldn't be for autumn. It's like, that's why it's so
Starting point is 01:16:42 great. Christian girl fall. That was the last one. But I agree, but it was funny because like none of them stuck because hot girl summer hot girl summer is so good and like i love making the stallion just like it's so fun and she can wrap her ass off too man and seen her come off of instagram and like i was like i was like like even before i listened to any of her music i was like she, she's fun. And it's funny that she calls everybody hotties. And her whole thing is just like, I'm just over here having a good ass time. And then, yeah, that was like, it was just a cool pop culture movement to see. It was very cool.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Yeah, Hot Girl Summer and Megan Thee Stallion. It was so much fun. Because it's like, sometimes it could be, I like that it was like, I like that even that it was like a battle of the sexes towards the end. But like sometimes that stuff can be fun. Yeah. Like everywhere else it's so toxic and bad that it was just fun to have this weird thing that was kind of fun. And like. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Yeah. It was, I don't know. I like, I just, it was like another one of those things where it's like, man, this is what it could be. And she's so savvy the way she did it and like yeah it just didn't seem to didn't seem to hurt anybody right and it is refreshing to go from what like the discourse like all capital letters again like that'll be on twitter sometimes wherever like oftentimes justifiably so where everything is so laden with you know like context and very serious like, you know, we have to look at the misogyny involved in what's happening here or like
Starting point is 01:18:08 you know, and then you do and there's a place for that. Absolutely you do. But then just to have this other thing that's just, this is just silly fun. Yeah. Well and it's an interesting flip side to like Lil Nas X, right, where it's like that one was like totally purely one hit wonder and he was very self aware about this. And this happened to be someone who like
Starting point is 01:18:23 found a very catchy way to break through the consciousness, but it's a fucking amazing rapper. Yeah. For a while. Yeah. Because she has the skillset. Well,
Starting point is 01:18:33 that's the other thing is watching that punch in. It's like, it's like when Bodak yellow dropped. Yeah. And then you already saw that Cardi was like, she had just been ready. Right. From like watching her out.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Cause her too. I remember watching her on Instagram. It was just like videos of her in like a dirty apartment just saying shit. And they would cut off. And then like, and then, okay, now she's on Love & Hip Hop. And then like, oh, she's like, and like, just like, I don't know, seeing it a well done. Watching a star. Yeah. Watching a star rise.
Starting point is 01:19:02 A star being born. Yeah. A star is born. Yeah. It's like yeah it's like it's like really cool and i really also wrapped up like uh it was just such we needed that at that time there's the city girl or the are they the girls on that the drink samples of that song yeah city girls well she just got out she just got out right yeah just got out but they were
Starting point is 01:19:18 kind of like that they were kind of wrapped up in that too a little bit yeah it was just involved but in the energy of just like a whole it's just like a whole wave of music and i think like this year has been particularly really great for women rappers and i think that that was a big part of it it was just like yeah it was just a cool thing man real hot girl shit yeah yeah hot girl summer real hot girl shit yeah and what'd you do this time with nikki minaj too right? Yeah. Excellent pick and your third pick. Oof. Not having that one at the ready. No, I just like, it's like I got, there's some that I think are big and some are like,
Starting point is 01:19:56 I think are important. I will do this one. All right. This is my third pick right now. That's right. You okay, Sean? Yeah. Sorry, I'm freaking out over here.
Starting point is 01:20:02 I shot over there freaking. Unless it's getting shorter. My third, I'm going with the Chicken Sandwich Wars. Oh. Yes. Oh, my God. Because that was. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:20:12 What the fuck, dude? That's crazy. This is like your theme. It's like everything that made you say what the fuck 2019. Yeah. I mean, it really. It was a crazy year. That's a wild thing that I live a block away from a Popeye's.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Me and shout out to drew which not to like out where you live but which popeyes are you close it's in the valley okay it's in valley because i work around the corner from the hollywood one and that was the sneak attack because they don't have a drive-thru oh which meant the no it was good it meant the line was actually like functional because they weren't just like rewrapping everything yeah so like it was a line but like i had my sandwich in like 25 minutes that's not bad not a big deal at all i still haven't had the papa's i haven't either which how is it the one it's great yeah it's a salt bomb but like i i don't think it's the best chicken i think it's i think part of it is like that hype machine
Starting point is 01:21:06 of course and like seeing how that like works because it was like I saw it because I saw videos on the internet like at first I was like I was wholly rejecting it I was like I'm not doing this fucking dumb and like I live two blocks away
Starting point is 01:21:22 from a Popeye's so it was also like fuck that I'm not gonna blah, blah, blah. And then I just saw so many videos of people being like, oh, it's like the one that turned me was I don't know if you guys saw. It's like a wife like walking around the house, like doing shit. And her husband just following her around, telling her about the sandwich. Like she's like putting groceries away. And he's like, and then they got these pickles on the sandwich. And it's like putting groceries away and he's like and then they got these pickles on the sandwich and it's like melts in your mouth and then she goes to the living room
Starting point is 01:21:49 and she like sits down and watches tv and he's like no baby you don't understand they got the sauce on there and she's just like living her life and i was like all right i heard these stories that like didn't even like make it on the internet to go viral but sounded like they were viral videos like my friend went to one with a drive-thru and he said, this guy like figured out that they were prioritizing the drive-thru over the in-store and that's why it was taking so long. So he took his SUV and physically blocked the drive-thru to borrow the fuel from getting in line. And like, I don't remember the resolution of the story, but I don't know, Like it was nice to just get an experience it like the normal way. But what do you think is the best fast food fried chicken sandwich?
Starting point is 01:22:30 If not Popeye's. It's, it's, it's, it's Wendy's or Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-A is still good. Those, those monsters. I thought they were reversed their role on it. But didn't they were then reversed that too? They're just trying to put media stories out there to confuse us so we don't know what's going on. I use my air fryer, man.
Starting point is 01:22:49 What is that? You do have an air fryer. The Popeye's sandwich is dark meat and it is way craggier and that spicy sauce is fucking great. I think the pickles are a little much. I would replace them. McDonald's put one out now too. I mean, everybody's going to get in the game now. But McDonald's used to have a southwestern
Starting point is 01:23:05 chicken sandwich yeah they did with the spicy sauce on it that was so fucking good and then they just got rid of it i don't know i just i found out as a result of the chicken sandwich craze that my friend had never had popeyes of any kind before so i literally like after work went to popeyes got two sandwiches and also like a four piece with several sides and just we'd like had a spread it was a wonderful occasion popular they were in portland there were only two of them and they were both on martin luther king jr boulevard but we still knew about it we would go well i feel like for a while yeah i feel like for a while it's been kind of like the hipster like even before the sandwich i remember maybe david chang definitely kenji lopez all would always be like papa and bourdain because he went to the buffet in louisiana for an episode but it
Starting point is 01:23:52 was always a thing for like really big food world personalities to kind of prove their populace bona fides by being like actually popeyes has like amazing fried chicken absolutely yeah oh i always just thought of it as the winner just there weren't a lot of them there aren't a lot like i put popeyes on top yeah yeah i mean i like the shrimp is really good too bojangles too bojangles is still regional though right yeah yeah bojangles is regional uh allison to have your third pick okay uh i feel like we've done some musical ones lately so i'm gonna go ahead and do billy eilish Oh, damn it. Great call. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:25 So of course, I like Billie Eilish because she is the first pop star who I can definitively say is not speaking to or about me in my life. A hundred percent. It is just like, this is not it for me. I don't really understand a lot of what's going on here. I'm neither 17 nor a ghost. Okay. I don't really understand a lot of what's going on here. I'm neither 17 nor a ghost.
Starting point is 01:24:44 So this isn't for me. Okay, that's the thing. I figured out what actually is most confusing to me about her is like her sound is pretty straightforward, like SoundCloud indie singer. But then you look at her and you're like, are you the female Tekashi 6ix9ine? What's happening?
Starting point is 01:24:58 I don't know. It's wild. It's a wild look. She like, she is, as is often the case with these like uh pop stars so smart and like no i watched a sneaker shopping video the like complex does the sneaker shopping show where she goes sneaker shopping and like she loves like she loves the ugly jordans that like the ones because the hot jordans are like the one the three four five seven maybe the eleven maybe the ten like it but like she's like oh yeah the Jordan 14s are my
Starting point is 01:25:30 favorite like she likes these ugly ones and then she wears them with these crazy like bulky outfits well and she said like she said it's because she doesn't want to be sexualized which I think is like very great and smart of her absolutely and also like it's very interesting because she's very conventionally beautiful like she absolutely could do like the traditional pop star feminine thing if she wanted to and it's great that she's choosing not to but it's interesting to compare her to say like lord who like also did the i'm a 16 year old wonder kid thing yeah but i feel Lorde was definitely catering to an older audience. Like she went on, I remember listening to her go on Mark Maron and then they like sing Paul
Starting point is 01:26:09 Simon together. And it's like, okay, you have an old soul. Like the P the people I know who listened to Lorde are mostly in their twenties and thirties. Billy Eilish is just like, I have no idea what is happening with the youth.
Starting point is 01:26:20 And I am enjoying learning what, uh, like it's just it's nice to choose not to be a cranky old person and to keep an open mind and I genuinely like the songs slap like it's crazy that she and her brother they're scary-ish
Starting point is 01:26:37 they're like Marilyn Manson old videos the effects are crazy she's always bleeding out of her nose you know what I mean the white eyes on the cover oh it's so cool she's just fucking cool man she just the by the time this drops it will have come out but we did a carpool karaoke with her uh and she is so charming and so smart and also like her voice is so fucking good there's a part of it where she like because she's like been making music since she was like six years old with her brother phineas i think is his name
Starting point is 01:27:10 phineas and billy yeah well their parents are like well also like her full name i think one of her middle names is like pirate or something like it's very they're very like she grew up in highland park like they it's a family of four in like a one or two bedroom house like very artsy indie kid LA situation but it also means that like she has a very tight knit family and so it's not like
Starting point is 01:27:35 you don't get a lot of the like yikes things that you tend to get from like teen pop stars. That's the other thing it seems like pretty organic too and like the family all loves each other they all go on tour with her um but she like busts out because she's been like making music she was like six or seven uh and she busts out a ukulele at one point and like starts playing these songs that she wrote when she was a kid and they're all very simple but they're like beautiful and her voice when she's just singing it's like amazing in a way that like
Starting point is 01:28:03 kind of almost doesn't well you know you hear these like produce songs from a mega pop star and you're like well their voice is probably pretty good hers is like oh my god it's gorgeous and then they go to her house in highland park and like she's got such a because she's 17 still but her room yeah you know when you were a kid and you would like write stuff on the walls or you would like it like it's such a like lived in i don't know it's like another cool piece of like i don't have anything to do with i don't write the carpools but but like uh it's just fucking rad once that once if you're into billy let's check that out too because it's like kind of a cool like behind the scenes with the thing um but yeah
Starting point is 01:28:41 those songs oh yeah bad guy is so fucking good. It really is. And then I don't even know the name of the song. The one where... You Should See Me in a Crown is another good hype up one. She did a video with Murakami, right? For that one? Maybe. I think so.
Starting point is 01:28:58 And then... I can lie and say I like it like that. Like it like that. Is that See Me in a Crown? I don't know say, I like it like that. Like it like that. Is that to see me in a crown or whichever song is used as a sink on Dickinson? The Apple show about hot Emily Dickinson as a team, hot John Mulaney as a, as Henry David Thoreau. It's a great show.
Starting point is 01:29:20 I could ever watch it, but like, there is no better way to communicate the vibe that show is trying to go for and then be like, they dropped Billy Eilish for the 19th century. That's amazing great show. I recommend everyone watch it. But like, there is no better way to communicate the vibe that show is trying to go for. And then be like, they dropped Billie Eilish for the 19th century. That's amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:30 Just fucking awesome. I can't, I'm so glad that like we have this person around for the next, cause she also seems like someone who's going to make some real interesting decisions over the next 10 years. I don't think this is going to be your aesthetic forever, but like, I'm sure she'll make a cool choice about what she's going to do.
Starting point is 01:29:44 For sure. Yeah. So I agree with that. Yeah. If you like the music at all, be her aesthetic forever but like I'm sure she'll make a cool choice about what she's gonna do yeah so I agree with that yeah if you like the music at all I'd say watch the carpool and then watch that sneaker shopping video with her too because it's just like a fun like insight into someone's personality I love that those videos are getting more popular like not just those those off obviously but like just videos with celebrities just doing normal shit yeah where you just get to see them like I look at Billie Eish. There's a voice coming out of her instead of like blood out of her nose,
Starting point is 01:30:06 like you were saying. It's like, cool. Right. I also love the stuff like that because it's a way to learn about, like if you're kind of like the way this podcast works a lot of the time, but like if you're not directly interviewing someone,
Starting point is 01:30:17 if you're talking about other stuff, you learn about people in kind of a fun, sneaky way, which is what's fun about those videos. Sean Jordan, let's learn about you in a fun, sneaky way. What is what's fun about those videos um sean jordan let's learn about you in a fun sneaky way what's your third pick sneaky fun uh third pick is gonna be chernobyl oh nice very good very good television uh i loved it i've seen it twice and the second time i watched it almost straight through it was fantastic that is crazy you endured that dark sean i i think it's phenomenal it's great tv but i don't know
Starting point is 01:30:46 if i can sit through it in one sitting uh it was like it was like one and a half if we're being but yeah i did like five episodes or something you were turning and burning that was like a good it was five episodes it came out once a week so i could like brace myself in between it was heavy heavy heavy Heavy. Heavy. Heavy. I still haven't watched it. No, you and Zach always tell you and Zach specifically are the two people who always tell me to watch. I still haven't watched it. I only have such a capacity for dramatic TV.
Starting point is 01:31:16 I could only watch so much of it. They've got your boy Jared Harris and your boy Stellan Skarsgård in it, dude. You got to get in there. Yeah. All the Russians are British. That's a key fact to note. That part fucked me up a little bit the first couple episodes.
Starting point is 01:31:29 They found a way to make it not subtitled, which I'm sure was a very conscious decision where they were like, we want people to watch this. They snuck it. They did it the most acceptable way, I guess, if you're gonna avoid subtitles. I've heard them explain it as like,
Starting point is 01:31:41 we didn't want to have them do like Boris and Natasha accents. So we just said we might, and like a lot of the cast is British so I understand intellectually the reasons behind it but it is very funny it was weird because you'll get different kind of you have different kinds of British accents in it like they're all in Chernobyl they did a good job of making something that I didn't understand one bit very understandable that was something they really dumbed it down for me i was like okay i kind of get what happened in the court that's what happened when you have the guy who
Starting point is 01:32:09 made wrote the hangover 2 or whatever that's what that's a skill set craig mazen he wrote the hangover 2 or i don't know it's exactly that but his entire cv is like critically derided comedies and comic sequels and then he wrote this and then he this was like his passion project and he's a co-host of script notes he's like a very widely liked and respected dude i don't mean to denigrate his past work but like there's a very particular pattern you get from everything else he's ever worked on and it's not chernobyl uh it's a rocket man originally originally, which is wait, but not the. Ha ha. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:47 The fucking, uh, the, the one with Brendan Frazier. No, the one with, uh, Harland Williams.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Yeah. Was his first. And then, I mean, he's made a bunch of stuff, but scary movie, three scary movie, four school for scoundrels,
Starting point is 01:33:00 the hangover part two, the hangover part three, the huntsman winter's war and then fucking Chernobyl that's wild that's wild well good for him he knows what he's doing
Starting point is 01:33:11 for what you want to he copped a couple Emmys for amazing yo that's crazy I did not know that that's wild see fun fun little fact
Starting point is 01:33:17 good on you that was sick professional that's what you get for me professional yeah Chernobyl I just it was really good television very again very heavy That's what you get for me. Profession. Yeah, Chernobyl. It was really good television.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Again, very heavy, but I loved it. Probably my favorite show of the year since I haven't finished Succession, obviously. Oh, no characters gonna teach up, isn't it? Oh, no. I did see at least one angry tweet from someone who's married to a Russian guy and was like Russian and British people are very different they have very different mannerisms
Starting point is 01:33:50 and national did anybody not think that though didn't know what to go to university wait what I've got half a moment to put my trainers on and stop right over there haven't I bro is your mental that's not how you handle a reactor you work with enough British people that you're able
Starting point is 01:34:05 to do an accent better than most of us and it's still real bad when i try to do a british accent around like any of the british people i work with they get so they don't even they're not even mad that just this heaviness sets in serious british oh you're so bad at it but to be fair and i'll say this to his face cordonorden's American accent is terrible. Actually, he's working on it now. He's been working with a coach for a while. His comedic American one, but his actual one, because he's filming the prom right now,
Starting point is 01:34:34 it's getting pretty good. And it's like eerie, because when you know someone for so long, and then they start doing a good American accent, you're like, this is upsetting. When you found out Hugh Laurie was British british man shit still fucked me up it's still weird to see that guy talk it's real weird yeah yeah stop it stop you speaking an american accent when you're here no no stop sir it's weird to me when people lose their accents though like like when i found
Starting point is 01:35:02 out mel gibson was australian oh yeah well he was born in new york and then lived in australia so he's got he's one of those like i've got a weird but when you watch the road has a completely unplaceable accent because he's like basically 50 50 american and british and you're like mark ronson oh he does talk weird and you're like what's going on there but he just grew up in a lot of places. It's very cool. It's time for my third. It is very cool. I love it. It's kind of fun when that happens.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Like I should not have my accent as a lifelong Portlandian. Portlandian. People get real upset when you say Portlandian too. Back in Portland, like this, no, we're called, we're called Portlanders.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Portlandian sounds better. Suck it. I don't care. With my third pick, I'm going to take season three series three of the crime yeah any of the characters on that show have pronounced that word the crime the crime thank you thank you hey thank you i uh fucking love it i just love going to that world for i watched that probably the whole thing in
Starting point is 01:36:05 like two days i loved season two so much more than season one and i do maintain that there are actual like in text reasons for it but then i just realized halfway through that it was definitely because of trump it's like oh it feels so relaxing to look at just like leaders without who whose mistakes have no consequences and are also chosen for us yes right autocracy sounds so good right now injected straight into my vein important but not powerful it's like so it's so nice to spend some time like in that world also the kennedy episode of season two was amazing season three just came out and now olivia coleman is playing the queen oscar winner oscar winner okay since we're talking about olivia coleman and i don't think anyone's gonna pick this i had her oscar acceptance speech as one of my uh pop culture moments i mean it's a great thing that happened in 2019 we should celebrate it's so fucking great well
Starting point is 01:37:01 she's just up there she's like this is a joke this is ridiculous you know she's up because she like she's drunk as fuck yeah that's what that's what happened she gave an interview she's like they have an open bar in the lobby like i was partaking and no one expected her to win i was so like it's gonna be glenn close it's her year like it's not you know not for a great movie and great performance but i can live with it lifetime achievement yeah but then fucking olivia colman for the favorite takes it and then is up there just like this is ridiculous i will never be up here again i mean crazy this is like drunk not entirely an apt comparison for a lot of like loaded cultural reasons but it did remind me a little bit of the moonlight la la land moment where you're just like fuck yes like the actual best thing
Starting point is 01:37:45 won over the inevitable thing even though the inevitable thing is also very good and I feel kind of bad for it but like fuck yeah it is a wild feeling on a much I mean I did not win an Oscar by any means I want to you know but like when they said the show
Starting point is 01:38:00 it's usually in that box but I brought it out for you no I didn't I brought it as a joke the other night but uh When they said the show. I've never seen an Oscar before. It's usually in that box. I brought it out for you. No, I didn't. I brought it as a joke the other night. But I just like, I don't know how people keep it together. Because when they said the primetime, I was just like, oh, shit. And then stood up, like yelled it real loud.
Starting point is 01:38:18 And then yelled it a bunch on the way up to the stage. And then because also at the Emmys, they sell drinks. People don't know this stuff. It's not an open bar at the Emmysys you have to pay it's not an open bar how much is a beer at the emmy it's the stadium prices you're paying like seven dollars for like it's a tall can but like the party afterwards the governor's ball everything's free so there's no complaints there oh so you're just like a sucker if you if you do and i was a sucker because it's a three hour i would have been a sucker too our category was we were nominated earlier in the show for one i thought we would lose but this one
Starting point is 01:38:55 was like the second to last category so you're like i'm gonna be here for the entire time i'm gonna get a little yeah i'm gonna stop a little but you talk at your table or you're on a table you're in rows you're like so can you talk kind your table? You're not at a table. You're in rows. You're in rows. So can you talk kind of? Yeah, you can like, but it's for the most part, you're just watching it. Well, and creative arts aren't televised. No, yeah. Well, they are on FX.
Starting point is 01:39:13 True. Forgot about that. I didn't know that. Sorry to the producers of the telecast. Did not mean to overlook your great work. But at the, I went to the primetime Emmys this year too. Are they still charging for drinks there? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:39:28 They're there to celebrate you. We went to the fucking Emmys, man. Phoebe Waller-Bridge had to go into the pocket for some of those drinks, assuming she drank at the awards show. She probably did. Weird. She probably snuck it in. Yeah, she might have. But, yeah, the crown season three.
Starting point is 01:39:41 Because I assume they don't pat you down. Huh? I assume they don't pat you down. There are metal detectors, but there's no pat down. They got to have metal detectors, yeah, for sure. Oh, okay, so you can't. I assume they don't pat you down. Huh? I assume they don't pat you down. There are metal detectors. They got to have metal detectors. Yeah. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:39:47 So you can't bring in a flask. Unless you get a flask. Olivia Coleman plays queen Elizabeth. Helena Bonham Carter plays her sister. Uh, who's princess Margaret. Who's like amazing. Cause she's like kind of like a drunk mess. Whose life is falling apart,
Starting point is 01:40:01 which is a great thing for Helena Bonham Carter to tackle. Perfect. She's real good at it. Uh,les dance plays this guy named lord mountbatten mountbatten dickie dickie yeah dickie mountbatten yeah and it's just so fucking wild like all these characters he's like technically the prince of greece or like somebody or no their husband is but he like i don't know it's just such a weird world to go to for a while for sure and like like you were saying like maybe in the age of trump it's like refreshing and it's right it's like nothing has stakes which is actually very nice because it's it's beautiful to look at because it's wildly expensive yes it's just got like a basic level of competence in
Starting point is 01:40:39 writing and directing the acting's amazing and then the conflict is like my favorite ridiculous episode of season three is prince philip who's played by tobias menzies yes just has like a midlife crisis because he sees the moon landing and is like my life will not amount to anything and he just is sort of sad and like there's there's a literally a scene where he's like angstily practicing polo and just like looking kind of constipated while swinging a mallet around. And this is like and then he meets with the astronauts and he's very disappointed. And then he joins like a support group at his church. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:16 It's fantastic. One of the episodes is the Prince of Wales doesn't know Welsh. He better learn Welsh. And that's like a whole episode. I will say, say though they are clearly setting up to do so they did the first like Charles and Camilla failed romance this season and next season they're doing fucking Diana yes and they're doing Margaret Thatcher who's being played by Gillian Anderson who is the girlfriend of the creator of the show oh shit Peter her and
Starting point is 01:41:40 Peter Morgan yeah really yeah that's amazing I'm's amazing. I'm just like filling everyone in on random details. Also Lord Macbeth will meet his, you know, fate probably in the next one. Right. I always forget that that's coming, but that should be fun. Can't wait to see how Peter Morgan handles the troubles. I'm sure that will be very tastefully. The troubles. The troubles and the crying.
Starting point is 01:42:00 Thank you. Thank you. So that's my and then the other, my next pick is going to be. Wait. Huh? We're on four now. Four. As it is. A serpentine draft. I'm going to take another
Starting point is 01:42:15 hit that Netflix put out this year. I'm going to take I Think You Should Leave. Yeah. Sketch comedy show. You have no good car ideas show you have no good car ideas only seen a couple of them oh but that guy's dab rules don't get it twisted sean tim robinson yeah who never got never got the opportunity to shine on snl like you should have detroiters was i loved it so fucking good
Starting point is 01:42:43 i love detroiters constantly shuffled around comedy central never quite got its due and then i think kind of like found his found his hit this year also half of the sketches were directed by alice isn't that crazy really yeah wow former former girlfriend of ian carmel yeah which is not even one of her top 10 credits which is crazy I went to brew the coffee shop with like the first sketch with the push pull door the other day and like I just it's also really funny because it shoots around a lot of LA
Starting point is 01:43:16 neighborhoods where people like us tend to frequent and so it's always fun to be like reminded of that like the Instagram sketches at that place home that's like oh Instagram sketches at that place home. That's like, which is right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:26 Oh, it's at home. Yeah. All those tacos. It's so fucking funny. Three pigs ready for this. If they died, I wouldn't shed a tear.
Starting point is 01:43:38 It's just so fuck. It's just so fucking funny. It's so funny. Suck this the bones are their money. It's so funny. Suck this slop out of my ass, you fat pig. Yeah. Man, that show was funny. It kills me. It's just absurd, which is really fun.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Just absurd, fantastic. Especially right now. And bite-sized. Every episode, 17 minutes. Yes, which is like, kind of gets me. The Fleabag why one of the like it's just you can just watch one it's not you don't have to hunker down like in the age
Starting point is 01:44:10 of peak TV and just fucking like not that every show is a slog but like the commitments you know what I mean like a very serious commitment especially with another huge show that came to a close this year that we're like oh so I'm going to be sitting here for the next 86 minutes just to take this one piece of culture.
Starting point is 01:44:26 What could you be talking about? Veep? It's Veep, of course. Jane the Virgin? Yeah. Fuck, those are both two things that people want. Well, maybe not any of us, but. Both great shows.
Starting point is 01:44:37 Yeah, both great shows. Great final seasons. Yeah, it was just fucking funny and like, I don't know, man. It's so fun. For me personally, like when you work on the show i work on which is very like a very glossy you know a lot of the stuff we do we know is like
Starting point is 01:44:52 here this is like an entertaining thing it's not we're making something not with the main goal of it being funny but of it being entertaining making people happy and then to watch something that's just like full-blown not that it's or worse, although people can have their own judgments about that, but just fucking funny and absurd. And like, it's, it feels like Tim Robinson didn't have to explain to anyone why he was making any certain sketch. He was like, no, this is just fucking funny. This is what I want it to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:19 And like, to be totally honest, it's like not completely my comic sensibility. Like I did not like die uproariously laughing the way a lot of people I know did. But like I can respect an extremely well executed vision. And like, yeah, like even if it's not totally for me, it's so awesome that it exists. Didn't they do it on a shoestring? They did it for like a million dollars. I mean, it does not look like it was hugely expensive. Not that it looks bad, but it doesn't look opulent or anything.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Brandon Wardell's in it for a second. Dr. Brandon Wardell. Yeah, I mean, it was just fucking fun. Yeah, and I wasn't like, I mean, that's not necessarily my comedic taste either. Oh, it's way weirder than I did. Yeah, same here. I would never make anything like that or whatever. But it's really funny.
Starting point is 01:46:03 It is fun to watch someone's just pure vision get like laid out like, yeah, it's fun to watch somebody be in their own element. I don't know why people feel like, Oh, this is your show. Yeah. Like you made,
Starting point is 01:46:11 this is the show you made. That's the way most of the really great stuff tends to be too. That's how I feel about it. Get out of people's way. Hmm. Uh, Sean, tell me your fourth pick.
Starting point is 01:46:21 Uh, I'm going to pick book smart. Oh, hell yeah. I really liked book smart autobiography. It needed to happen. It's a bummer that it took so long for like a super bad to happen, but with young girls instead of the super bad boys,
Starting point is 01:46:35 that's what I felt like it was. And it was amazing. It was super bad. I mean, I just literally like I had a codependent best friendship with my high school best friend. And we like, we're really smart.
Starting point is 01:46:47 And we're also, you know, insufferable nerds who desperately wanted to get into good colleges and eventually did. And then had the like, Oh shit, we need to have fun moment. And like,
Starting point is 01:46:56 literally I remember on my prom night, we like schemed and schemed and we got into this like crazy house party that literally had a bouncer and a list. And it was like, Oh my God, this is about us yeah no shit yeah that is about yeah it is so accurate and like literally throughout all of high school like i really wanted to go to columbia my friend really wanted to go to yale and so it was like really hard like wasn't yale one of the schools yeah they go to columbia and yale those are the two schools that's crazy yeah yeah just really really really up my alley was it crazy the first time you watched it were you just like what the fuck i mean i've seen the trailer so i was a little like i i
Starting point is 01:47:35 was prepared but like certain specific details i just like immediately texted my friend out after i got out of the theater and was like you need to you need to go see this. I can't even explain. It's just so good on Everland. They were funny. The characters were fun. That teacher who was encouraging her. Oh, played by Jay Willey. Yeah, I liked that movie a lot. Yeah, it was good.
Starting point is 01:47:56 The scene where they're in the lift and they accidentally play the porn is like the hardest. Yeah. Because it's all, I don't know, it's all good. It's all believable too. There's nothing in there where I'm like, like the heart. Cause it's all, I don't know. It's all good. It's all believable too.
Starting point is 01:48:08 There's nothing in there where I'm like, no way that's not happening. I will say the movie was a little bit spoiled for me in advance by like, I, I've like was hanging out with some friends and we got to talking about it and someone had just seen it and she was like, you know, I really liked it. It's really good movie.
Starting point is 01:48:20 You should definitely see it. It was just like definitely made by people who went to Harvard Westlake. And I went to go see and was like oh no because like they technically i think in the movie go to like a public school in the valley yeah but that's a movie made about la private school for sure like a hundred for sure yeah like the party kids who still are also going to columbia or whatever you know that's like the schools that everyone is going to the house part like the literal houses which by the way the the house where they go to the big house party at the end is literally my co-workers girlfriends bosses place oh really and so they were like i've been to a holiday party at that house it's in like encino or something i'll tell you that yeah nice place off the rack yeah it was
Starting point is 01:49:03 just that like minor detail aside. It's a really great, fun movie. And I watched it with my family and it was only minimally awkward. Oh, yeah. There were only a couple moments that are, yeah. It was, we watched it when it finally popped on Hulu. It was another one I missed in the theaters, but fucking fantastic. Sure did enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:49:19 I'm here on their Wikipedia page. Made its money back and then some. They made that show for $6 million. That's crazy. That is bonkers. Yeah, and it sucked because at first it got this whole narrative
Starting point is 01:49:29 of it's not doing well at the box office. Right. And it was like, it barely costs any money and it'll take a while. It's like office space. It doesn't do well either.
Starting point is 01:49:36 It's one of the best movies ever made, so yeah. The discourse surrounding comedies in general is so weird now. Everything doesn't have to be a $300 million movie. Beanie Feldstein's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:49:46 Yeah. She was on What We Do in the Shadows also this year. Oh, I've watched that. That show is so goddamn funny. It's like a very small part. They clearly cast her maybe before or right after Lady Bird. It's not like a big showy part, but she's really funny in it. That show rules.
Starting point is 01:50:02 I love that show. I heartily agree. Booksmart, excellent pick. Allison allison for your fourth pick sure i've definitely like talked my talk to everyone's ears off about this on like multiple platforms but i'll just add one more uh i love the bon appetit test kitchen and it's been going on as like a youtube thing for a few years but i feel like 2019 was it kind of like hit a certain level of cultural saturation. And it is like the highlight of my day when I'm just like winding down right
Starting point is 01:50:32 before I go to sleep and I'm like kind of stoned and I'm just like watching Claire make fake Krispy Kreme. I don't know anything about it. Oh, okay. It's the, the magazine Bon Appetit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:42 And you know, all of media is trying to figure out how to like do multimedia stuff and they just basically like made their own amateur food network out of people who like develop recipes for the actual magazine whoa and so like there's a lot of basic just like so and so makes like a souffle and they're just like
Starting point is 01:50:58 talking you through it but like as they've cultivated the various personalities and the chemistry between them they've started kind of like escalating it so people have their own sp-off shows where like there's one called it's alive where this guy brad leone does like weird fermentation shit there's one called reverse engineering where this like super like adorably nerdy dude like tastes something with like a blindfold and tries to like figure out how to like make it oh wow taste yeah it's wild but it's it's also just funny because like because it's on youtube
Starting point is 01:51:26 it has a similar effect to like podcasts where like everyone thinks it's so personal to them even though it's huge so i have like friends where it's like we're part of this like secret underground bon appetit high yeah but of course it's like a huge thing like literally my phone case is a inside bon Appetit reference that has double meaning. Cause it is a homophone for my name. It says Alison, but like the compound that's in garlic.
Starting point is 01:51:52 Oh yeah. It's like a Bradley on a thing, but I literally made friends. I was at a plane from Philadelphia to LA and the girl sits down next to me and she goes, is that a Bradley on a phone case? And I said, yes.
Starting point is 01:52:02 And then she goes, if you know, you know, and we made fast friends and we took the hallway together home from LAX. And it was lovely. Yeah, because the Uber situation is all fucked up right now. Oh my God. Sure is.
Starting point is 01:52:14 Yeah, it's like one of those things that is kind of like TV, but it's not fully TV, but it's become this like shared language amongst a bunch of people. And I really love cooking. So I relate to it that way. Yeah. But I also know tons of people who just like watching them because they're like compelling on camera presences. Right. It's an interesting man.
Starting point is 01:52:33 It's peaceful. Sure. Yes. And it's very like wholesome. Like there's not a lot of like conflict or plot. You can kind of zone out. Everyone has like there's a full, you know, panoply of personalities. So like people have like their
Starting point is 01:52:45 rankings and their preferences yeah and it's just been like a really delightful thing to bond with friends over so it's definitely going to the rotation yeah check it out i'll leave you with that hell yeah excellent bon appetit test kitchen david time for your fourth and then your final picks real hot girl shit yeah it's it's so hard there's so many that i want to pick fourth i'm gonna go with no fuck it all right and this i really think i think this was the year for this i maybe saw it before last year but i feel like this was the year it really caught on and i had a lot of people to talk about it with i'm going 90 day fiance oh yeah this was the year it really caught on and I had a lot of people to talk about it with. I'm going 90 Day Fiance.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Oh yeah, this was the year. Oh my God. It is incredible. My mom is on board. I saw so many tweets about it and I never really understood. I never like gathered from them like what the show is actually about.
Starting point is 01:53:38 And then my friend told me and I could not believe it. It's people trying to get their green cards, right? It's insane which i thought was illegal it also has it the other way though they have 90 day the fiance the other way where people move americans are moving to other countries oh trying to bust out it's just for what trash tv is it's like it's so human like i watched the episode of that show and I have the full range of emotions ending on like,
Starting point is 01:54:08 well, you know, what is love? Who's to say what love is? I don't know what it is. Maybe it is a transaction between. Maybe it is. It seems to be working for these people.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Yeah. Like a lot of these couples stay together for way too long. Like it's, it's just fucking what a ride. I feel like the best reality shows are like so... Like they're trashy because they're so raw, but because they're so raw, they also show you how like humans really are.
Starting point is 01:54:31 Dude, that's what I feel about that movie. Like you'll watch it, and sometimes you're like, everybody's a piece of shit. What movie? Not movie. The show. Like I'll watch it,
Starting point is 01:54:42 and I'll be like, sometimes you're like, everybody's a piece of shit. Sometimes you're like, well, this is actually actually beautiful you're usually like you're a bad parent like it's it's nuts man that show it's just like so much how often don't they like start introducing like they'll introduce like a new couple halfway into a season too or what yeah the way the seasons are super weird like yeah it's not like one couple, one episode. Yeah, you can kind of watch, pick it up whenever
Starting point is 01:55:08 and just start watching. Who's making it? Is it TLC or who's making it? Yeah, I believe it's TLC. Or the Learning Channel. Yeah. The makers of Here Comes Honey Boo Boo. Yeah, it's like the most, it's just like.
Starting point is 01:55:20 Crazy. Like in one episode, this guy like runs away from his wife to be because he's like having a panic attack and then she chases him down and then she comes back and she gets robbed by machete and you're like what what the fuck is going on here she gets robbed for his cell phone by a machete and like the camera crew's just watching and you're like oh this is so crazy your pics are like all the wildest most primal like america as it truly is yeah i know you're like oh this is so crazy your pics are like all the wildest most primal like america as it truly is yeah i know you're capturing something here we gotta see where we're at the highs and the lows that shit's like it's like it's not it's nuts because like everybody's
Starting point is 01:55:59 stupid not everybody but like a lot of people i don't know you gotta watch it it's crazy i will it fucks me up every time i walk i hear so many people talk about it oh yeah because that's below deck yeah there's no through line of the people i've turned it on to too there's no through line like it's just like everybody is like watches it like what the fuck is this additional recommendation that's like the classier end of the spectrum but also is definitely catering to the same instinct is anyone watch couples therapy on showtime isn't that shit crazy right but it's like it's like they have tasteful cinematography and like a very quiet talking therapist but like all the shit that's on display is like oh yeah because you're like popcorn oh yeah it's beautifully shot're like, yeah, he's straight up a misogynist girl.
Starting point is 01:56:45 Like you have to leave this dude. We don't talk about whatever the fuck is going on now. That show is couples. It is an actual couples therapist conducting actual therapy. And they put cameras like in the walls basically. So like they did not know know or like they knew they were being recorded but they like hid the camera so they weren't conscious of it and it's over months so they kind of like get them into a comfort zone and then they just talk about like
Starting point is 01:57:15 incredibly raw shit it's so wild especially because you see the you see them in the waiting room like it has oh and they have cameras in the room. And they're like antsy and they're like tense. Or you'll see how their relationship is before. And some of them, they're like, when you see them in the wait, there's one couple I'm speaking of specifically. When you see them in the waiting room, you're like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:57:37 These are like cool people who know how to function together and who like each other. And then they go in the couple's chair and it's like. Wait, is this Annie and Mal? Yeah. Yeah. And're like you're like yo this doesn't work at all you're like this doesn't work at all but then they leave again and they're like okay their body language is just so insane because they're so affectionate and like i still don't really understand after
Starting point is 01:57:59 like four hours of watching them like what their problems are as a couple it's just so it's bizarre but then also like another couple in the waiting room someone will literally try to put their arm around the other person and they'll like flinch and shrug it off it's like it's like it's really it's yeah it's the same i don't have the heart for it it's the same as 90 day fiance it's raw as fuck to watch it's as funny because they package it to be for like people who like wear tote bags to the farmer's market yeah yeah it's the same yeah it's just wild they package it to be for like people who like wear tote bags to the farmer's market. Yeah. It's just wild.
Starting point is 01:58:29 It's wild to see people be totally candid about their problems. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's very true. Or to see like people who are like high functioning, low functioning people is like. Right. Like that's what 90 Day Fiance is like. These people are clearly making
Starting point is 01:58:46 their way through the world but also not very well like yeah they are legal adults but should they be yeah yeah yeah yeah you're like man I don't see how you've even been smart enough to make
Starting point is 01:59:00 enough money to put yourself in this situation yeah fucking wild alright 90 Day Fiance and your final pick smart enough to make enough money to put yourself in this situation. Fucking wild. And your final pick? Gosh, this is so hard. I know, it's been a big year. Yeah, and it's like what am I going for?
Starting point is 01:59:18 My final pick is going to be fuck, this is so hard. You know what? pick is going to be fuck this is so hard you know what I'm going to pick the most recent thing on my list it's been a fun little ride
Starting point is 01:59:34 yeah baby Yoda yeah I thought you said that might come out yeah baby Yoda just a fun end of the thing duh baby oh man baby Yoda so many fun little weird memes i saw the other one the other day that was like my friend over there wants to talk to you my friend and it's baby yoda but he's got like a nike sweatsuit on have you seen the airpods and i'm
Starting point is 01:59:58 like i don't even know what the fuck this it's like when you see what's the joke yeah it's like when you see all those Tweety bird memes and you're like, I don't know why this is Tweety with a gun, but I guess like a lot of faded memes on the Yoda meme. Oh, all the, all the memes that are people like holding the gun are hilarious. But yeah,
Starting point is 02:00:17 baby Yoda is like, it is such a craven and blatant act of Disney being like, here's some cute shit. You will make gifs of it. Oh, man. Or did you see them? They're like, yes. Who are they talking to?
Starting point is 02:00:28 Was it Laura Dern? Who are they talking to? Laura Dern is like, I saw Baby Yoda at a basketball game. At the basketball game! That's all I'm going to say. That's all I'm going to say. I saw him at the basketball game.
Starting point is 02:00:39 And it's like, oh, she does think it's Lil Nas X. Dern is a big NBA fan. Dern is like, and stays at the NBA games. I saw some photos of her and Timothee Chalamet courtside and it's like me skipping second period
Starting point is 02:00:52 to hang out with my AP English teacher. It was a good name. She dated Baron Davis. Wow. Laura Dern is legit. Laura Dern dated Baron Davis. What did they do out? Where did they go to dinner?
Starting point is 02:01:07 What? They were photographed in public a few times. So you could definitely look this up. Yeah. That's awesome. I didn't know that. Like hot restaurants in LA, you know? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:17 He's from here too. He's quite the Hollywood type. He is from here. Yeah. There they are. Look at that. Power couple. Shit's insane.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Yeah. I had no idea. If I have like a lot of tattoos, like a lot. A lot. I might throw that in the collage. Once I've lowered the barrier by a few notches,
Starting point is 02:01:34 I'd be susceptible. So do all these mean a lot? No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. They all mean a little. Yeah. Speaking of tattoos though, I did see one that I'm pretty sure was fake,
Starting point is 02:01:42 but it was a baby yoda holding white claw i got duped one of those weird leftist twitter guys yeah someone posted that in work slack and i looked at the bio and i was like this dude co-hosts a podcast called go off kings i don't think this was legit but it's a funny meme i bought it because i was like maybe you're one of those guys who just gets like a dumb tattoo every year turns out that was not the case and i tweeted something nice but at least he didn't retweet it so people made fun of the mandalorian is like so mid overall i'm like very bored by it but like i love it i i love it too but it is completely mid
Starting point is 02:02:17 but it's here that i i tried to tweet about so forgive me for repeating myself if you read it, but it's like, it's, it, it's like Xena warrior princess. It's the same formula. They pop up in a new place. There's a problem. They solve that new problem. They move on to a next adventure. The next episode.
Starting point is 02:02:36 One of my coworkers was like, it's literally a video game. Like all the dialogue is video game dialogue. And I can't unsee that. It for sure does you're walking up to an npc it's like a bunch of cut scenes yeah it's it's not good but it is very watchable and they are so smart in releasing it once a week instead of dropping it all at once that's the only reason anyone's holding on to disney plus right now would have cleared it out and
Starting point is 02:03:02 then canceled their free trial yeah that's what I was planning on doing. I'm still probably going to cancel. After it's over. People got mad at me on Twitter for this too. I'm not a big Disney Plus fan because I don't like superhero movies and I don't feel like going back and re-watching the cartoons
Starting point is 02:03:19 or TV shows of my youth. Yeah. So there's not a lot on there for you. Aladdin and Lion King, that's about it. And The Mandalorian. You can watch the Jeff Goldblum explainer show.
Starting point is 02:03:26 I guess I could, yeah. You can watch the weird Christmas movie with Bill Hader in it for some reason. Did he do that? Yeah, with Anna Kendrick. I'd watch a bunch
Starting point is 02:03:34 of Disney Plus content. I'll watch it, I'm sure. Yeah. That sounds like I'd love it. I bet I'll watch that. Yeah, that's right up your alley. I'm not a big Kendrick guy, but Bill Hader is wonderful.
Starting point is 02:03:43 Yeah, I like them both. I'm happy for his success. They fit perfectly in the mold that I'm picturing in arick guy but Bill Hader is wonderful I like them both I'm happy for their success they fit perfectly in the mold that I'm picturing in a romantic comedy Christmas sort of movie I don't think it's a rom-com I think they play brother and sister it could be a rom-com I'm not saying
Starting point is 02:03:55 listen you're not we call that a rom-com my next pick is stepmom porn which for some reason... I already regret it. If you really wanted to risk it, you could probably do porn drafts.
Starting point is 02:04:11 I think you probably could. We've talked, it's been kicked around. That could be like a Patreon episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess Hymns would probably get behind the porn. In fact, we should, Hymns or Roman, if you guys want to sponsor a porn. In fact, hymns are Roman. If you guys want to sponsor a porn draft, we'll go ahead and do it.
Starting point is 02:04:28 Specifically because I don't think I... I want to know what Sean's into. Every now and then you see the crest of that humpback whale pop out of the water. Every year he'll say something like, in an Uber at 2.30, driving home, looking out the window like, you know, I was looking at XX the next the other day and you're like what the fuck and then it never comes out
Starting point is 02:04:49 then he's like oh that's where Christian has always blah blah blah this is the craziest skate spot and you're like back to the milk maids or whatever you were talking about we got from Baby Yoda to porn it's a short trip I bet you there's there's that video
Starting point is 02:05:05 already exists. Oh, yeah. Of course. Yeah, for sure. Baby Yoda, very cute, Mandalorian, watchable,
Starting point is 02:05:12 not good. I 100% agree. Three Pedro Pascal's face. That's all I have to say. Oh, you're going to put him in a helmet? They will. They're teasing it so hard
Starting point is 02:05:20 that they're going to. Of course they will. Come on. Maybe I'll have a predator mouth. Let the man use his instrument. Give me the viper. I've loved him from day one. I want,
Starting point is 02:05:29 that's the one thing I'm bummed on is that I don't get to see him. I like that dude. Narcos fucking rules. Narcos rules, dude. Yeah. I'm a big Pedro Pascal guy. Narcos rules, dude.
Starting point is 02:05:37 That's, those words have been said in that order a lot. Oh my God. Millions of times. This hour. Narcos rules, dude. Millions of times.
Starting point is 02:05:44 We could host an offshoot AFE called Narcos Rules, dude. Allison, tell me your final pick. Sure. I'm just not going to psych myself out too much with this one. I would like to talk about something that I've really been enjoying for the past few weeks. Yeah. And that is when prestige Oscar movies hit Netflix. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:02 So this is kind of a duel of the Irishman and Marriage Story. But I don't I feel like last year because it was both of them. Marriage Story. Oh, yeah. Adam Driver. It's probably winning the Oscar. It's Noah Baumbach. I do need to watch it.
Starting point is 02:06:20 I almost watched it on Friday. Mr. Baumbach. Mr. Baumbach. I feel like last year there was with Roma, there was like so much concern trolling over like what it means for Netflix to be in the Oscar race. And also it's like, it's fine.
Starting point is 02:06:33 And also because it was like a black and white foreign language movie about like very serious subjects. People weren't like instantly like making memes. Yes. But like, I genuinely find with, I saw both Irishman and marriage story in a theater. I am a good,
Starting point is 02:06:46 like culture consuming citizen. But then the second they hit on the internet, it was really fun to just be like, okay, everyone's seen this. We can all talk about it. We can all make dumb jokes about it. Like.
Starting point is 02:06:57 Both the memes surrounding them were people ineffectively hitting things too, which is funny. Yeah. Both of those movies. Do you mean De Niro? That's true. And then Adam Driver punching them on the wall. Yeah. What a bum what a bummer that fight i haven't seen marriage story yet so i don't put that i haven't seen it but you've i haven't seen the irish but i've seen that fight
Starting point is 02:07:13 scene and the fight scene is real tough it's the one tough well i mean but laura dern in it yeah oh well you know i'll certainly watch the movie but yeah yeah it's like i genuinely i've had both like really like rewarding just like conversations about like you know his marriage story really even handed or like is the irishman commenting on the gangster movie just really need to be three and a half hours blah blah blah yeah but then also i just watch i've watched the super cut of al pacino just saying cocksucker for 38 seconds so funny so many times cocksucker cocksucker he does say it a lot of time pacino's had a weird little year between his Once Upon a Time
Starting point is 02:07:48 in Hollywood role and then playing Jimmy Hoffa I think it's pretty great I love both of them I'm saying on behalf of the Jewish people Schwarz is okay Schwarz Schwarz he can play a MOT
Starting point is 02:08:02 yeah he spent plenty of time with us he's fine he's probably basing it off his own agent absolutely that's a real dude that's probably five real dudes who he's not he's fine we're not worried about pacino yeah and the irishman is one of those things where it's like i'm not really like in the take war about it like i understand what he was trying to do by like not having Anna Paken speak or whatever, but I don't, I,
Starting point is 02:08:26 it's sort of like, I think you should leave. It's like, I like it and I respect it, but I don't love it. But it's so nice to see all my like film, Twitter, bro friends just go ape shit.
Starting point is 02:08:35 Like I'm very happy they have this. I've been, I've been getting our friend, Mike Malloy, who hated it, who you probably listen to this. Mike, we've had,
Starting point is 02:08:44 this is nothing I haven't said to your face i swear to god he was playing video games while he watched it i swear he's got two i mean okay so i saw it the first time in the theater and i do think that was necessary because i just needed something to force me to pay attention also saw it in a raucous theater in philly where the first showing broke like the sound didn't work and it was all like 75 year olds late 75 year old ladies in Philadelphia so they were not having that it was quite the reaction but like I basically I put in a lot of effort and man hours into making sure I saw that in the theater and the second time I just saw it with my parents so I actually was on my phone half
Starting point is 02:09:19 the time because I've already seen it but it was lovely what did you did you like him I thought yeah I did like I mean like obviously it's incredibly like well made and i i respect the fact that it's like him making a gangster movie that's like about death and dying yeah i just i do think the first time like the last half hours where the movie really like shows you what it's trying to do and at that point i had been in this like my butt had been in the seat for three hours and i was like when is this ending yeah i want to get out of here yeah i think i could have watched it in one right now that i've like seen it in full and like digested it a little bit i respect it but i thought pesci was so good in it too i thought pesci was the best part this is like it's fine it's a pesci's performance was such an interesting display
Starting point is 02:09:59 like uh example of someone playing a powerful person who's like with like one you know what i mean like i had a loof just but but just like kind of restrained and like all the powers internal and everything whereas like we're used to seeing like maybe that's and now i'm debating with mike below who's not here we're like he's like special we often see like a loud mouth motherfucker blah blah blah you know yeah i think i'm just strained like i'm just cheap and easy. And, you know, Philistine, I just loved Pacino. Yes, me too. Like the ice cream sundae bit. Oh, it's so funny.
Starting point is 02:10:34 He's such a joy to watch in it. I'll watch him chew scenery. How much, how many more? That's the other thing. How many more of these guys do we, how much more time do we get with all these guys? How much? They are all old. It's wild that they're all still alive.
Starting point is 02:10:46 And the face scrubbing thing made it look like a video game. The de-aging thing was pretty weird. Yeah, it made me feel... It wasn't even de-aging. Why couldn't they just give De Niro color contacts? What was happening there? Yeah, I don't know. He looked like a Targaryen.
Starting point is 02:10:59 Like, what was going on? It looked like a video game, right? Like, he looked like we were watching an RPG. I don't know. It's also like, I can believe you're Irish if you don't have blue eyes. Like it's fine. De Niro's half Irish. Like you don't need to. Yeah. We'll take him. Here's an Irishman with no blue eyes.
Starting point is 02:11:16 We'll let him in. Here's an Irishman. Speaking of an Irishman, what's your final pick? Final pick is going to be Jake Phelps died this year. He was the editor for Thrasher magazine. So it was a very big deal. I understand that's not like everybody, but for me specific, I was a big thing.
Starting point is 02:11:33 I wish I didn't. You don't need to lay down the tracks, man. Don't do that to yourself. But yeah, he was questionable. He was kind of a dick sometimes, but he did a lot for skateboarding. And he got a lot of shit done. Tell us about it.
Starting point is 02:11:51 He got a lot of people. So he spearheaded the Buster Bale contest, which gets a lot of tricks done at big spots like Wallenberg. They did a couple in San Francisco. They just did one at this double kink rail in Pasadena. He was only 56 years old. Yeah. I don't really think they know exactly what happened everybody i talked to a bunch of people
Starting point is 02:12:09 that saw him the day before at deluxe unknown cause yeah dead so oh deluxe i've hung out there you did yeah we all went to deluxe oh yeah i did that cakey flip and there was a three-legged dog outside you did you didn't do a cakey flip i was riffing with. Yeah, it was just, it was a weird thing. Like he did a lot for skateboarding and he died this year. So still, you know, it's still moving forward. Well, break down what he did for us. So he was the editor of Chief of Thrasher for the entire run. He just was for 27 years.
Starting point is 02:12:38 Yeah, he just was skateboarding. I mean, all through and through. Like he, if you like, if you went skating in any capacity, he was all about like you did but you had to try he wouldn't take anybody who didn't try like if you had a board and didn't skate go fuck yourself yeah those people like you drop in on the bowl or get out of the skate park situation which is couldn't be a shitty attitude but it's also very fun but in one where it's like if all of a sudden the skate park's packed with people who don't skate, I guess you understand that, you know?
Starting point is 02:13:06 Yeah. He's been around it for 30 years. Oh, I understand. Yeah. He respected, if somebody was gnarly. It's happening in comedy, all of them. Yeah. Anyway, he was just a very good, solid representation of skateboarding,
Starting point is 02:13:17 and he passed this year, so I wanted to give him a little shine. Absolutely. And anybody who skates that listens to this, just know, you know, J.C. Oh, speaking of skates, buy Donovan's board. I just got one. Go buy Donovan's board on the barracks. It's signed if you go to the barracks. I'm going to get one of those.
Starting point is 02:13:30 I have a signed Donovan strain deck. Strain, dude. Haven't even told him. In strain in the men's train. Yeah, go get one of Donnie's decks. He rules. Excellent. Excellent final pick.
Starting point is 02:13:41 God, I didn't blow it at all. You nailed it. I'm on top right now. I feel great. You should feel good about yourself. Big day for me. I've been nervous. You have been. Of course I was because the last two times I did this. You've been a little more quiet
Starting point is 02:13:56 today than you have than most episodes. Because I'm feeling. You're flying a fighter jet this time. There's no room for error. Secret service. Consequences. That's right.
Starting point is 02:14:11 It's that kind of podcast. My final pick. There you go. Get it all out. I was in a... So I'll just walk you through this day. I was in a CBS Radford, which is CBS's studio in the Valley, you know, Studio City.
Starting point is 02:14:27 And I was there. We were filming this new show I'm doing that's going to come out later on this year. And, you know, it went kind of late. I get to my car. Are you allowed to talk about, oh. Yeah, no, well, no. I'm going to talk about going to your car. There was somebody breaking in, me and Ian killed him.
Starting point is 02:14:44 And, yeah. Yeah, but the episode going great went kind of late. I want to talk about going to your car. There was somebody breaking in, me and Ian killed him. And yeah. Yeah. But the episode went kind of late. But I got out of there around, I want to say like 1030, 1045. Showered off all the gunk from the show because there's a lot of stunts, whatever, whatever. Got to my car, drove my car home as quick as I could. Jumped in an Uber, took that Uber to the Hyperion public house here in Los Angeles. They got some good chicken wings over there. Here we go. They got some good chicken wings over there.
Starting point is 02:15:10 That's not the reason I went tonight, though. That is not the reason I went that night. You had a specific reason to go, right? And it's not just because you're sitting in this room. I went and saw one of the best comedy sets. I had seen David Bid boris comedy central half hour
Starting point is 02:15:28 november 15th of this year came out on comedy central and it's so fucking good i know i told you that that night and i told you that since then it's so fucking good it's such a amazing tight set there are so many laughs Like you're amazing on the way, on the way to get into a punchline. There's so many jokes along the way. There's so many laughs along the way. It is sincerely, it was like,
Starting point is 02:15:52 I just watching it in this room full of people who love you was one of my favorite moments too. It was so surreal. Did they screen it? They screened it upstairs. Okay. So it wasn't like you doing the set. Okay.
Starting point is 02:16:02 No, no, it was, uh, we, they were playing it up on the TVs there and then they played Alan Strickland Williams later that night yeah his was right after mine
Starting point is 02:16:09 which was also great but uh that's not what I'm drafting I'm drafting yours it was just so fucking good man it was such a good set it was crazy watching it cause even when I watched it there were a few jokes where I was like I did not think they were gonna put that on TV and then then they put it in there and they put which is like that's
Starting point is 02:16:28 what i want is all i want to tell is the ones that you probably aren't gonna put on tv so to have like i feel like it represented me so i was really proud of it it was just yeah it was fantastic it was like i don't know again this is not like false humility or anything like that it was like watching it i was like oh yeah that's, yeah, that's like a different level. You know what I mean? That's like, you know, you feel like you go have a good set every now and then like in a play, but you're like, oh, that's like fucking like you just fucking crushed it, man. That's what you want.
Starting point is 02:16:56 You're like kick the door and first big set like kind of thing. That's how I felt about it. Yeah. I feel real thing. I'm very moved by the display of male friendship. It was so good. It was crazy.
Starting point is 02:17:08 It was crazy to watch. I mean, you were standing with me the whole time. It was crazy to walk in the bar and talking to everybody and they were showing Kevin Hart's special
Starting point is 02:17:15 and then they showed my special after Kevin Hart's special. And you introduced your own special. And I introduced my own special. As the voice of
Starting point is 02:17:24 Comedy Central. Which was weird to do what i recorded it a couple months ago i was wearing my loud ass polo fleece and almost nobody commented on it because the whole room that should be like the weird like filmed intro like you know how everyone has to have a bit before their stand-up it should be you introducing your own special to the crowd of the hyperion public house because i I had to yell it a few times. No, he's the voice. So like on the TV, he had to be like, coming up next on comedy.
Starting point is 02:17:49 So you can, with the literal voices right here, why am I doing an impression of you? I saw Ali Wong at the Wiltern and Shen Wong opened for her and he had to introduce himself. He's so funny. Especially because he doesn't yell. So I imagine he's just like, hey, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 02:18:04 Hey, what's up? Hey, what's up? You guys cool with me coming out and telling some jokes? Because I'm about to. He does have that sneaky low voice. That dude's voice is pure bass, dude. He was great. He's so low.
Starting point is 02:18:18 I don't know about that, because I'd seen maybe 20 minutes of the Ally set before and obviously she's masterful, but we walked down and my friend was like, I she's masterful, but we walked down. My friend was like, I think his stuff was like a little tighter than hers. He's great. He's very,
Starting point is 02:18:30 very good. He's so slept on. He's one of those guys like material about shit. That's like, like so much. Now you see somebody do a set and they're like, Hey, I'm Haitian Dominican.
Starting point is 02:18:40 And this is exactly what it's like to be like that. And this is why my set is interesting and then you see Shang and he's just like I got a q-tip too deep in my ear the other day and then that's like the best fucking bit five minutes on an empty lotion yeah so yeah yeah it's like it's like it's not like he doesn't have to
Starting point is 02:18:57 know he's crazy just like great at it he's occupying that space that like where I used to think like Gary Goldman about that where I'm like why isn't this guy huge yeah you know i'm like this is such a good comedian yeah he'll get there though goldman special is great yeah special came out last night oh yeah i haven't seen me i shot to sonata aurora colorado he references multiple times big things in the not to spoiler it but he has a joke that hit so hard with me he was like he was like he's like i'm 20 white trash because i'm from aurora but he's like he was like i never
Starting point is 02:19:32 thought i was white or a redneck because like we're from colorado we don't have any accents blah blah blah he's like he's like and then i watched the x games and i was like oh there it is because every snowboarder sounds like every dude from Colorado he even did the perfect he was like what's up my name is Greg I won the golden big hill you trying to die tonight bro
Starting point is 02:19:55 oh man great a lot of good comedy this year a lot of good comedy this year but also watch my special please I mean it's the only comedy special that made it onto this draft this is the definitive recounting A lot of good comedy this year. A lot of good comedy this year. But also watch my special, please. It's amazing. I mean, it's the only comedy special that made it onto this draft.
Starting point is 02:20:10 And this is the definitive recounting of 2019. Speaking of which, David, you went first. You? And you took the rise and fall of Jussie Smollett, Megan Thee Stallion and the Hot Girl Summer, the Chicken Sandwich Wars, 90 Day Fiance, and Baby Yoda and the Mandalorian. That's strong.
Starting point is 02:20:24 Yeah. I was like, what? Allison, you went second. You took Class War, which was kind of Parasite, Succession, Knives Out, and then Fleabag Season 2, The Year in Billie Eilish, The Bon Appetit Test Kitchen, and then Prestige Oscar Movies being on Netflix. That's
Starting point is 02:20:39 solid. What did you think of Marriage Story, by the way? I liked it. I did actually think that the movie was slightly biased in adam driver's favor yeah but uh yeah like you just can't argue it's also really wild because i re-watched francis ha recently i love that movie it's a great movie but it's a very like dry droll movie and marriage story is a lot raw There's like human feelings in there. I'm afraid. It's really, I mean like it deposits you in a good place, but it takes you to some tough places.
Starting point is 02:21:11 I'm seeing that scene first. It plays differently in context because like you have to just learn. I assume it would. But somebody like, you wouldn't punch a wall really hard. You know what I mean? If you're like that kind of guy,
Starting point is 02:21:24 you'd be like, the fact that you do it at all i mean i think something that scene really captures that i thought the movie was really good at is the way that like when you're experiencing like strife with someone who's that close to you you're like so angry at them but you're also going to them for emotional support because like that's what you're used to doing and you're just like in this awful in-between space of like feeling both ways at once and you can't like untie them so like that part of like relationships disintegrating i thought it's it's very very good i just like again i had i had some opinions about like where how the movie settles on the question of who's at fault for what
Starting point is 02:21:59 but like that's it's it's fun to be able to have that discussion i don't think i'm gonna watch it till winter break i don't think like i'm gonna be like you don't want to go to work afterwards i feel like or be coming home from work where i'm like yeah coming home alone you know i saw it by myself at the vista and i live a 25 minute walk away and i walked home in silence i've done that a few times at vista movies that was definitely one of them that's one thing that's one thing i miss about living next to the theater in highland park now i take the uber to i uber to movies and it's like walking home from a movie so nice i love i do when i go to the americana i walk back home, I walk back home. It's like such a nice way to decompress the movie and stuff like that. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:22:49 I do miss that. Sean, you went third. You took White Cloth, Lil Nas X, and Old Town Road, Chernobyl, Booksmart, and then Jake Phelps, the longtime editor-in-chief of Thrasher Magazine, passing away. Yes, sir. I went last, and I took DaBaby's entire 2019 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Crane, passing away. Yes, sir. I went last and I took DaBaby's entire 2019 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Crane, season three.
Starting point is 02:23:09 The Crane. I Think You Should Leave, and then David Borey's Comedy Central Presents. Actually, why don't you say that last one? And then finally, Comedy Central Presents, David Borey! Yeah!
Starting point is 02:23:21 Brought to you by Hyundai. Pronounced like Monday. Yes, that is the spot that's what I say we left some good stuff on the board I thought Billy Porter just in general in 2019 was fucking amazing I had the NBA off season oh that's a good one this
Starting point is 02:23:40 year was crazy I had uncut gems I haven't seen it yet I'm just flexing my screening privilege. Sorry guys. I heard that it's so good. It's so fucking good. It's the most, it's the most Jewish thing
Starting point is 02:23:52 I've ever seen in my life. Yes, I can't wait. We're going to have some good conversations. I'll text you immediately. Oh, please do.
Starting point is 02:23:57 And then I also had Russian Doll and Tuka and Birdie. Oh yeah, RIP man. Both great. I had Facebook's day in court. Shout out to Hannah Waltz. With everybody. With the weird Augustus r.i.p man both great i had facebook's day in court shout out to hannah that was like really good at the impeachment obviously epstein obviously trabec's cancer was oh my god was operation varsity blues this year
Starting point is 02:24:20 that makes me feel olivia jade just made her dramatic return to youtube i saw that boy we got a lot i saw people did you see that she was on caruso's yacht when all this happened oh really olivia jade was incredible oh my goodness we we got like i'll sometimes gauge how big a story is by how much we can milk it for monologue punchlines that one was months i mean it's crazy it was like perfect story this is still hitting with the crowds they're like yeah because it's that's in the class war too yeah that's a huge part of it um i was at when i not not a it could be a flex but like i wrote on the tony's again this year and in between uh on commercial breaks we would just go out
Starting point is 02:25:06 cord would go out to the crowd and we would play like karaoke in the crowd but like show tune karaoke and Billy Porter did this oh fuck what was it hold on I have a question though yeah when you write for the Tony's do they like let you see the Broadway shows so you know you're writing about no oh that seems like an issue no no no no no and they're flying you all in from la so it's not like you can see new york right we can't see it right exactly i i imagine if there's a new york based host but like no we because we would like this deep in the pot i'm not gonna get in trouble for it anyway he's not gonna host the tonys again fuck it uh also i don't think they would care we when we were there we were like hey would it be possible to get like tickets to go see like Hadestown or like any of it, like any of the shows that were nominated, you know,
Starting point is 02:25:50 Oklahoma that fucks, like any of that stuff? No. They're like, you can go try to see it, but like, we're not going to get you tickets for it. Go to the TKTS booth. Yeah. We would get like behind the scenes access to go like tape with the cast and stuff like that if we were shooting it for like for the Tony.
Starting point is 02:26:03 So we got to meet a bunch of those people. But no tickets. But no tickets but no tickets man wow yeah broadway she's a cruel mistress oh here's another show that i don't like i was so stoned while i was watching it which i think is how you should be but showtime did this like four-part series at shangri-la studios with rick rubin this year oh. Oh, yeah. And there were all these different musicians up there just for a little bit. And it's not, again, it's nothing I would be like, this is one of the best things that got made this year. But I don't know.
Starting point is 02:26:32 It was just a fun place to be when it baked and you don't want anything with steaks or serious. I would like to shout out the other two. Just a very funny, incredibly well-made comedy. That show's so funny, man. Yeah. It's so funny but it's specifically like about like i feel like this sounds like an insult but it is like if twitter or like a certain corner twitter like was able to get a tv show but i mean that like entirely as a compliment yes like a very
Starting point is 02:27:01 particular corner of like culture and the internet finally got like a full budget. Right. And it's awesome. I haven't seen it. If I need to watch it, it's really funny, man. It's really,
Starting point is 02:27:11 really good. And it's so timely and like, just, yeah, it's just like a couple episodes to get going, but it's like, it's a sitcom. So you're whatever.
Starting point is 02:27:20 Yeah. So you can like really plow through it. Whatever episode, the first episode where he made the song for his brother that was when it started working for me wait is that the one where he's my brother's gay I just they end an episode
Starting point is 02:27:35 with a shot for shot parody of the closing credits of call me by your name and I think I I think I literally like fell out of my chair that's so funny like it's so good excellent oh two last quick last second I watched a lot of stuff literally like fell out of my chair. That's so funny. Like it's so good. Very well done. Uh, excellent.
Starting point is 02:27:46 Oh, two last quick, last second. My, I watched a lot of stuff. Mindhunter. Uh huh. Mindhunter.
Starting point is 02:27:51 Yeah, it was amazing. Mindhunter. And then Dolomite is my name, which again, not anything I would put like on it. This was the best thing, but like,
Starting point is 02:27:58 it was just fun to watch Eddie Murphy be in a movie again. It was kind of cool. I watched a few minutes of that, but like, I need to like really commit. It's like a, it's, it's no Dolomite. It felt like a movie that. I watched a few minutes of that, but like, I need to like really commit. It's like a, it's, it's no Dolomite.
Starting point is 02:28:07 It felt like a movie that would get made. Yeah. It's no Dolomite. And like you pointed out, he's not acting like Rudy Ray Moore at all on it, but like, he's acting like Eddie Murphy. But he's good at it.
Starting point is 02:28:16 He's great. And it's just, it's a movie that felt like, it kind of reminded me of the movie Chef, where it was like, they're not, none of these people are antiheroes. They're not trying
Starting point is 02:28:25 to do anything where like these characters aren't very like complex although i guess fabbro is kind of an anti whatever whatever but like these characters aren't like mad complex it's just like here's a movie you're gonna have a good time yeah that's how chef is for sure yeah for between 90 and 110 minutes and then it's gonna be over too yeah uh and that's kind of what dolomite was right and shout out to Keegan-Michael Key in there too. He was good. Yes! We want to hear yours. What were your favorite parts of 2019's popular culture?
Starting point is 02:28:52 Which, you know, astronomical events happened this year that maybe you found interesting. Maybe someone who shouldn't have been elected ran for office. Hit us. Sorry, I got to get the last check. That was two years ago you did that, by the way. That wasn't even last year. Sure was. We're getting a lot of content out of those pics. Hit us up, All Fantasy Pod on Twitter,
Starting point is 02:29:08 allfantasypodcasts at gmail.com. Shout out to everyone on the AFE Patreon for holding us down. Shout out to the subreddit. We check in every now and then. I just posted in there because you were, I think it was something about a bong that maybe I would use.
Starting point is 02:29:20 It was a menorah bong. That's what it was. And I said, yes, I would. I would try to smoke out of that. Also, subreddit, you incorrectlyidentified at an old dude sitting next to me as my dad, Ivan Carmel. That was not Ivan Carmel. Just some old dude.
Starting point is 02:29:32 You would know it was Ivan Carmel cause he'd be looking into the camera lens just like I was cause the apple does not fall far from the tree. But that was Sean Jordan next to me. We were in the third road of blaze again. What up Carmelo Anthony? Uh, shout out to super producer Marissa. Yeah. What up Carmelo Anthony? Shout out to super producer Marissa. Shout out to
Starting point is 02:29:48 Frankie Ocean. Shout out to Sid the dude. Shout out to Haji Beats. Dude, shout out to... Shout out to DaBaby. DaBaby, yeah. A hard shout. Shout out to Howie Long. Shout out to Eggnog Borey. Oh, Eggnog Borey. We are in peak Eggnog Borey right now.
Starting point is 02:30:04 I'm Jack! Yeah, dude. Shout out to... I don't know. Any shout outs, Allison? Just thank you for... I owe no one anything. No, thank you so much for having me. I love this annual tradition we have. It's so fun to shoot the shit with you guys.
Starting point is 02:30:20 It was especially fun to do it in your home. Thank you for having us. Of course, of course. Yeah, more important than all of that, tune in again next week for another brand new episode of It was especially fun to do it in your home. Thank you for having us. Of course. Of course. Yeah. And yeah, more important than all of that. Tune in again next week for another brand new episode of all fantasy. Everything. It would be funny if you started calling yourself Carmelo Anthony before he ever got famous. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:37 But I would have, I would have had to be. that was a hate gum podcast

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