All Fantasy Everything - 2020 Pop Culture (w/ Alison Herman, Sean Jordan, David Gborie)

Episode Date: December 24, 2020

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This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is All Fantasy Everything, the podcast that fantasy drafts anything and everything from the world of pop culture, from holiday movies to cocktails and everything in between. On this episode, we'll be doing our annual pop culture recap with Alison Herman, a writer, media critic, and All Fantasy Everything, I'm going to say all

family member for sure at this point. I'm your host, Ian Carmel, and with me as always are Sean Jordan and David Borey. Let's get to the episode. welcome to another brand new episode of all fantasy everything the podcast that has been talking about christmas puddings for the last 15 minutes yeah we don't know what they are we don't know we don't understand what british can the british conception of dessert is and we don't want anyone to tell us. I think that's fair to say. Yeah. Is a solid, do the Brits call a solid a pudding?

Like would a Snickers bar be a pudding to a Brit? I don't know. Like would you like a Snickers pudding? I think first of all, they would never, they would just be condescending. I think it's Snicky Pudding is what they call it. Snicky Pudding. Actually, the most fucked up British phrasing is that they call, what they call flapjacks are like basically granola bars.

What? It's so disgusting. Yeah. It's like a weird trail mix type situation. It is not a pancake. No, thank you. And also they, like, they say pancakes, so they mostly mean like crepes and what they,

they have to specify American pancakes, like American football for like the actual thing that we call pancakes. I don't like that. You have to say flapjacks for the knapsack when you go hiking. I put them in the boot. Yeah. You stick a flapjack in the boot? In the boot of my car, I mean. Yeah, yeah. Oh, in the boot

of your lorry? Of my lorry. I put them in the boot of my lorry. Yeah. Keep a flapjack in the boot of my lorry. Is that a Stormzy song? Yeah, it sounds like it could be a Stormzy song. Sean S. Jordan is here. Sean Cougar Mel Jordan on Twitter. I don't know, on Instagram.

Sean S. Jordan on Twitter, for God's sake. Backwards hat. Don't worry. No controversial opinions coming. You know what? I got up tonight. Why are you doing that? You don't have to do that.

Salad's kind of on point today. The hair is looking good again. So we'll just keep the hat off until I get into the pics. And then I got to flip the switch, obviously. Yeah. No quarantine here for you. Are you getting what? Backyard haircuts?

I had some. So my hair was gnarly. It was like down past my chin. Longest it's ever been for me. Jacob gnarly. Haunting someone. Yeah. That level of like ever been for me Jacob Gnarly haunting someone that level of like Gnarly so yeah I just actually

stared in the mirror hard enough and it just looked like this now some of it just like ran away it got scared he played walk by Pantera and his hair just slowly crept back into his head it was like a reverse play-doh thing I just sucked back in oh reverse play-doh not reverse Play-Doh thing. It just like, I just, and it sucked back in. Oh, reverse Play-Doh.

Not reverse Play-Doh. I was like, what the fuck is he talking about? No, no. Yeah, not doing much. Happy holidays, everyone. This comes out on Christmas Eve. So, you know, good vibes. Oh, happy holidays.

Half of us don't celebrate. Happy holidays. No, I was just, yeah, happy holidays. I'm happy for you. I feel like being a jew is not really like a meaningful minority experience in a lot of ways you know we have white privilege but i do appreciate the perspective it gives me on how fucking weird christmas is i love how weird it is having a tree inside your house i mean i listen this is a take of mine these are these

are hanukkah bushes that's true then la christ That's true. The lights for no reason. I just my favorite thing about the holidays and I'm not splitting the atom here. I love the fact that everybody feels compelled to be in a better mood for a month. I don't care how you get there. That's just what I want. I want everyone to be that way all the time. And if it's only a month, then I'll take it. Oh, I love the holidays. And in fact, my tried and true take is that I actually think like being Jewish means you get more out of it because you don't have the added stress of Christmas is supposed to be

the most special time ever. And also you have to be with your extended family for the second time in a month. It's just like you literally get the truest like meaning of what a holiday is, which is you chill the fuck out for 24 hours and you don't do anything. I'm stoked.

It's the best. I can't wait. My family, my mom's, the mom's side of the family does Christmas because she converted. which is you chill the fuck out for 24 hours and you don't do anything i'm stoked it's the best i can't wait my family my mom's the mom's side of the family does christmas because she converted so she so we do christmas i fucking it could it was a little bit stressful before i had like a good job now that i have like nieces and nephews and everything like absolutely oh man i mean this year would be a little bit different of course with covid and everything but like coming in with presents yeah coming in with presents. Yeah.

Coming in. And also we do the family celebration on like the 27th. So the last few, or we would do it like before. So the last few years I would just be able to like eat Chinese food and watch basketball on Christmas, which is such a gift. Oh yeah. You get both. You get Jewish Christmas and regular Christmas. It's so nice.

The stress is so low this year because there's no all the shopping was done online weeks ago so there's really nothing i'm like we have all the gifts and everything is ready but you know there's no no stress leading up to it yeah there's no being in pioneer place at like 7 p.m like does my dad need a puzzle should i get a puzzle is that what he wants the answer is always no but you get it you. Do I get him a bunch of made in Oregon Mary and Barry jam? Is that what my dad wants? Yes, though it is. He does.

Yeah, man, fuck up a jam. It's his jam. I've seen him in that suit. Yeah, yeah. Goddamn. My little sister has been sending me throwback pictures of my dad lately. Go ahead and get those to me whenever you get them. Yeah.

Absolutely. From the late 70s, early 80s. And that man, that man was GQ. Capital G, capital Q. He liked the jam. What kind of prints are we talking about? I feel like the 80s were a special time for patterns. He had like, I mean, this was like a mustard yellow suit

with like some like, what's the frosted? What's the right way to describe those glasses? Like, you know, those glasses that are like oh tinted like sepia deniro casino sunglasses in that but like big and like ombre where they're like more tinted at the top and then down at the bottom it's just like a normal glass every photo i've seen of my dad from the 1980s is like giant aviators half the size of his face and then for some reason he's always wearing running shorts yeah He's only ever in an exercise outfit. You gotta get where you're going. That was the 80s.

They had to be quick. I mean, they were all into yogging. That was all new then. So soft, Jay. Had to be quick. Yogging. There was so much thigh meat out in the 80s. I like that. Bring it back. Listen, short shorts,

the five inch inseam, I know nothing about men's fashion, but listen short shorts the five inch inseam i know nothing about men's fashion but i know that the five inch inseam is back in and i support it i support it too oh yeah i got some yoga shorts on right now hell yeah that man with yoga shorts on by the way david borre hey gsi on twitter cool guy jokes 87 on instagram how are you doing buddy i'm good i'm good my phone is at the bottom of a lake but that's okay what happened i've dropped it at the bottom of a lake oh like a literal bottom of a lake of the literal bottom of a lake yeah yeah yeah you dropped why did it betray you what happened uh no i was just moving from inside the ice tent to outside the ice tent and it fell out

of my pocket wait the lake was frozen i thought you had an airbnb in denver what are you doing yeah i was i was ice fishing on a frozen lake and i was inside the ice hut and i went to go outside the ice hut and my phone fell into the water and turns out i'm free uh wow this spell is broken turns out if you don't answer, if you cannot receive the text, you never have to text anyone back. Oh, I can still get them on my phone. I just am like, or on my computer, I'm just like, hey, man, my phone's gone. So, you know, I'm not going to respond to this probably. This is how text messages should be.

I don't like, like, unless it's like it's urgent, like stuff you need to figure out right that moment. Like they should be treated like letters. It should be like, you need to figure out right that moment like they should be treated like letters it should be like you texted me this and then a few days later i had time to sit down and thoughtfully respond to it no 100 i don't like how much it like it it chips at your time because then you're texting like three people at once and you're like yeah what the fuck am i giving my brain to right now you know what i mean if we have something to talk about let's just talk about it on the phone anyways the point is my phone is gone and i feel better than i ever have yeah that's beautiful

tell us about ice fishing how did that go it was the best we didn't bag any which is a bummer how much meth did you smoke first or well the the whole the floor is made of meth oh okay that's right i mean ice fishing famously fast-paced you gotta you gotta do a stimulant before you just sit immobile on the ice for hours that's what the ice is ice crystal meth that's what ice is right okay yeah it's all math yeah it's all speed to me baby yeah crank glass yeah it's. I love ice fishing. I love fishing fishing. Did you catch anything? I missed that part with my own humorous musings. No, my buddy

Luke got one. After my phone died, I just started hiking around. Your phone didn't die. It fell in a lake, by the way. It's dead, regardless. You don't know, dude. It might still be charging. Yeah, there's just fish down there checking my DMs. Yeah.

Setting my butt. Is ice fishing like a routine hobby for you? Or was this like someone dragged you out there? No, when I lived in Colorado it was. But now I live in California and I don't ever fish. But yeah. David's a fisherman. Yeah, very much so.

I love him. He's a man of a lure and a man of the lure i would say yeah of both of both yeah yeah i had to buy some new gear which kind of sucked but anyways it was great i got if you ever get a chance to ice fish 11 mile reservoir in colorado do it it's amazing it's all it's there's an island in the middle of the lake that i could i just like walked to and then walked up on the top. That's awesome. Yeah, it was fantastic.

It was the best time I've had fishing getting skunked. I don't think people realize how in tune with nature you are. It doesn't come up much, no. Yeah, I think you don't come off as a nature person, but then you spend a lot of time in nature. Yeah, no headphones. That's my thing. Just see it. Yeah, I love it. Just vibes. Yeah. No headphones. That's my thing. Just see it. I,

yeah, I, yeah, I love it. Yeah. I love it. I love it a lot. Yeah. And then I was,

yeah. And that's all I've been doing. I'm going to go back. I think we're going to go to Granby Lake like tomorrow or something. I'm just going to fish a lot this next couple of weeks. Probably. It's surprising. You went to 11 mile Lake when we all know how much you like the lyrics of

Eminem and you didn't go to eight miles. Cause Sean was telling me before we started recording, it's surprising you went to 11 mile lake when we all know how much you like the lyrics of eminem and you didn't go to eight mile lake because sean was telling me before we started recording your favorite lyric is what was it sean well i think they had to i think they had to alter it when he dropped his phone in the lake and he goes i guess that's why they call it puddle pain but it used to be the wind oh david went dark he turned his camera off that's how i feel about that david's been known to do dav David sometimes, like when something bad happens, he'll walk over to the window and he'll just be like, I guess that's why they call it windowpane.

Because Eminem is both his hero and his mentor. And his role model. Famously has great personal conduct. Someone you want to model yourself off of. Brain damage ever since the day I was born, you know? Yeah it didn't someone send us a new lyric by him that was like awful what was it i'd have to dig back in twitter it was bad didn't he have an album that just came out like this week did he yeah he just he just put an album out i saw well there's something you can draft that falls under the umbrella of pop culture yeah oh. You guys were going to pick the new Eminem?

The Eminem album? I'm sorry. I'll stop saying picks. Sean's already practicing his definitions to make sure he doesn't fuck up again. Hey. That is a thing and not a concept. And therefore, I can draft it. The eclipse was pop culture.

And I've grown more confident in the last few years. And I'll heal nothing different. Honestly. It wasn't. Of all years. Of all years to make wasn't of all years of all years to make a force of nature part of pop culture i think 2020 is the year that you're allowed to do that yeah that might i think that i think that no holds barred on this one right yeah

no roseanne bars either that actually no bar came out in the 80s you're talking about that hulk hogan movie i don't think we can pick stuff from the 80s also can i preface this draft by saying i think this was maybe the year i was the least in tune with the culture as a whole oh oh absolutely like i was i was not i was not in i was in tune with previous years culture stretching back decades and even yeah like but with what was going on currently, I was very not tuned into it. We'll find out in a bit. Alison Herman is here. I am. Alison has returned. Aherman2006 on Twitter.

And then what's the Instagram? It's aherman2006 on all platforms. Across platforms. A unified brand. And I would say I did not keep in touch with pop culture this year because I had an amazing year. I had so many new experiences. I met so many new people. Tell us about them. Everyone was wearing masks and it was a little weird. But no, it's obviously it's sucked ass. And it's very weird like seeing people you haven't

seen in a while because you're just like, you know, automatically you're like, hey, how are you? And then you have to pause and be like, you know, we're both undergoing one of the most harrowing psychological traumas of our lifetime. And we don't really know how to deal with it or talk about it or when it will end. But apart from that, everything's great. Completely. We've decided that instead of how you're doing, we came up with some alternatives recently. What were some of them? Hey, idiot. Yeah. I mean, I always just pop in and be like, I'm actually doing great. I'm enjoying this. We came up with some alternatives recently. What were some of them? Hey, idiot! I mean, I always just pop in and be like, I'm actually doing great.

I'm enjoying this, oddly. I'm having a blast. I haven't gone into a grocery store. It's so fun. They just bring it out. I'm like, can we just keep this? There's certain things where I'm like, yeah. I have been having, outside of how horrifying and traumatic everything has been,

a good year which is weird oh that is weird i mean i've had like you know i should probably preface this by saying i am very lucky i have stable employment i have not to my knowledge had or transmitted a deadly disease which i guess is sort of like the benchmark for how good your beard how good your year has been and like even within the context of all that I feel very lucky in that my pod is my boyfriend and his roommates which means I have a second location that is not my house that I'm allowed to go to which is just like a fucking lifesaver so important so I do feel very lucky with all this right away I just I would go look at our yard and I'd be like

there's a yard we got a yard I mean there mean, there's people like in Brooklyn that live on like 30 story walk up. Is that how the kids are saying it? And they don't have a yard. They have an apartment with kids. I'm just like, it could be a lot harder than it has been. You stomp your yard too, right? That's a big thing for you. Oh yeah, dude. I'm out there doing dance. I'm out there dancing, playboy. That is a new thing and it's not going to be an old thing. It's your stage. It's not not your yard It's your performance space I just go out sometimes And read sonnets

To the neighbors They didn't ask But I do it This is my stage I say Nick You sonnet the yard All the world's a stage And for the foreseeable future

All the world is My backyard So Yeah Hey Nick You ever see Othello Cause I'm about to do it Nick Jory

Come to the stage Jory Those are my neighbors Damn'm about to do it. Nick, Jory, come to the stage. Jory? Those are my neighbors. Damn. Your neighbors are Nick and Jory? Yep. Jory? You know my name.

Are you saying Jordy or Jory? I think you say Jory. Check this out, Allison. That's way wilder. My last name is Jordan. Not everybody knows that. So my mom, first choice to name me, my first name was going to be Jory. That was her first choice.

That's what she wanted to name me. Knowing my dad's last name, it's not like he surprised her and was like, surprise, my last name, Jordan. So she in her mind was like, I should name this child Jory. Jordan is what almost happened. If my dad, he didn't do a lot. But one thing he did was shut that down real quick and then he dipped but you know i'm happy but that's a good that's a good last act i would say it's like saving your child from a lifetime of name related bullying yeah i

just found out that jory was a name two minutes ago and now you're telling me you were almost named jory wait i just realized your dad did like the literal opposite of a boy named Sue. Because in that song, he gives him a shitty name and then he goes and then the dude is like, what the fuck? Why is this the only thing you ever did for me? And then this is the opposite. So good on your dad for that one thing. Yeah, because Sue was a real hard ass and you're real sweet. You are sweet.

Thank you. ass and you're real sweet you are sweet thank you i mean speaking of neighbor names though i found out via package that my neighbor with a like ungoogleably generic first and last name his middle name is champagne and that is like the most exciting discovery i've had in weeks i have a very low threshold for entertainment these days yeah no that's because that is entertaining that's a great middle name yeah my middle My middle name is Champagne. It fits everywhere. Yeah. I won't dox him, but think John Smith level generic first and last name.

And his middle name is Champagne. That makes it even spicier, right? I'm like Drake at that point. I just go by Champagne. The rest of my name is Jim Smith. What's your middle name? Oh, it's Champagne. If my middle name was Champagneith what's your middle name oh it's champagne if my middle name was champagne i want my first name to be ricky ricky champagne and then anything yeah ricky

champagne watkins you're telling me you're telling me he didn't average a double double for the auburn basketball team in the early 70s come on i'd have a lot more jewelry if my middle name was champagne that's for damn sure and you already have an extra ice house full of jewelry, don't you? Didn't your jewelry have to go ice fishing at a different lake? We don't talk about that. It swims with the fishes. It swims with the fishes now. That's an undisclosed

location, dude. 420 mile lake, bro. Allison, you were talking about steady employment where you were writing at The Ringer where you've recently written your best TV shows of 2020 I have you're in review with Miles Suri you wrote about the Disney taking a

victory lap in the streaming wars yeah Disney big company and about the Saved by the Bell remake too right oh my god guys it's not one of my five but like the Saved by the Bell remake is so good oh yeah I know it's so much better than it is any right to be Sean you watched it It's not one of my five, but the Saved by the Bell remake is so good. Oh, yeah. I know.

It's so much better than it is any right to be. Sean, you watched it? Yeah, I watched it. Saved by the Bell was like I grew up on Saved by the Bell. All right, sorry. I used to try to dress exactly like Zack Morris. I used to tuck in sweatshirts because Zack Morris did it one time. That's a wild move.

I bought those guest shirts, the striped shirts that had guests stitched in. I bought like four of those because he wore one one time. I named my hamster Zach and Kelly when I was a kid. Wait, one hamster named Zach and Kelly? One hamster, two heads, dude, Zach and Kelly. I prefer the reboot because it is much more of a like millennial sense of humor and less earnest. But I got to say in the flashbacks, like the original, much better costume design.

Just insane patterns all over the place. Beautiful. Well, we may talk about it more. I just wanted to give people, is there anything that you wrote this year that's not timely that you're really proud of? You want to direct anyone towards or anything you want to direct anyone towards in general?

Oh, I wrote at the very beginning of quarantine a piece about how everyone was rewatching Mad Men that was shamelessly inspired by my own personal experience. But it was really fun to just have like an excuse to talk about the show that I really love. And obviously it's not timely. So I really enjoyed that piece. And I talked to a lot of really smart people for it and I also wrote a piece about how celebrities are all losing their minds that I think has truly held up with

time so yeah that's like those are two pieces I think are good and pretty long lasting and also I managed to write about Mad Men like three times over the course of quarantine so it's like an unofficial trilogy. The hat trick.

Exactly. Beautiful. Well, check all that out. And I am Ian Carmel, at Ian Carmel on Twitter, at Ian Carmel on Instagram, at Ian Carmel on Jewish. Shit, I got to start thinking of these in advance.

I'm running out of apps. I thought you were going to say J-Date. And then I was like, that's not, that would not be. I'm not on J-Date anymore. I thought you were going to say J-Date, and then I was like, that's not, that would not be. I'm not on J-Date anymore. I'm Ian Carmel on Jewish J-Date, though, which is even more Jewish J-Date. You guys got to look out for that.

Jewish J-Date. Literally this morning, my mother sent me a New York Times article about some Jewish dating service and was like, in case you're ever off the market again. Oh, man. Come on. That went immediately to my boyfriend. She's living the opposite of like a Jewish mother stereotype.

She's like, you know, not like, when are you going to settle down and give me kids? It's like the other way. It's like. No, I think it's more like, okay, you're settled down. But in case you don't stay that way, here's how you can be that way with someone else so that my needs are taken care of. Is your boyfriend Jewish? Yes, extremely.

Like L.A., born and raised. We literally had bagels and lox yesterday morning. We are like about that life. My girlfriend also extremely Jewish. I'm loving it. I'm loving this life. There's a shorthand for things. She's even more Jewish than me.

She grew up in Highland Park in Chicago, which is a very Jewish area, I guess. Awesome. I grew up in San Diego, which is literally the least Jewish place in America. I'm from the other least Jewish place, Portland. There's no Jews there. Exactly.

I got to compensate by dating someone who literally went to the same synagogue as Larry David when he was growing up. I just bought it. I'm within five feet of a Larry David's Larry David, a long sleeve tee right now. You'll see it later. You'll see it in different episodes.

You're going to outfit change halfway through. I might, I might pull an outfit change. He's on it. Yeah. GQ sold it to me. Weirdly. Shout out to GQ.

Shout out to Nathaniel Friedman. Another Jew. shout out to gq shout out to nathaniel friedman another jew shout out to free darko we'll do more for shout out to the end of the episode i have nothing to promote uh listen to all fantasy everything be wonderful to each other uh and watch the late late show with james corden check out uh the prom i don't think we're gonna talk about it on this episode but you know your boy's in it i haven't seen it yet i really i really enjoyed it i wasn't one of my five favorite things I watched this year

but like, it was like a really fun glitzy musical. I have a complicated relationship with Ryan Murphy that necessitates that I watch everything he has ever made

and have positive feelings about very little of it but I give him my time. Yeah. It is very watchable stuff stuff it will elicit an emotion one way or another um as so has the prom i really liked it uh anyway we're not gathered here today to talk about the prom we are gathered here to recap 2020's uh year in pop culture an insane year a year uh i think many of us fixated on media from like other years.

Rewatching Mad Men. I watched so many old movies this year. I just rewatched Murder on the Orient Express for like the third time in this calendar year. I watched it with you even once. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. But stuff came out this year and we're going to draft it. The way we

determine the order of that draft is through a rollicking game of rock, paper, scissors played between the three of you and we throw on shoot. Here we go. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Oh, Allison wins. Damn it. Yeah. Allison, as the winner of rock, paper, scissors, it is incumbent upon you to determine the order of today's draft.

But before you do that, I will remind you, it is a serpentine draft. And what is that? That's a great question. will remind you it is a serpentine draft and what is that that's a great question it's like if you are all gonna like if you're all gathered around the christmas tree say passing out presents what we always did is we put a kid on each end like a child and then we would start we'd say like all right here's a present for you and then we would pass a present out to all the adults in the middle sort of like left to right and then on the other end there'd be a child who because they always want the presents quicker so we'd give them right. And then on the other end, there'd be a child who, because they always want the presents quicker.

So we'd give them a present and then everybody would unwrap their presents at the same time. And then to kind of keep the children at bay, we would say, all right, here's the kid on the right gets another present. And then we would go right to left, passing out presents to all the adults. And then the kid on the left would get another present.

So for every adult getting one present, the children would each get two to keep them satiated as it were. So then you just kind of do that until the presents are gone and the kids are pissed and the adults are drunk. Okay, so I'm going to reiterate my Jewish take that Christmas is weird, but that was a very helpful explanation. Yeah, absolutely. Yes. You nailed it. It was helpful. For anyone who didn't understand, if it means if you pick fourth in the first round you pick first in the second round that's basically what it means oh speaking of shout out to the slack and the holiday gift exchange did you guys get your gifts yet

i did i have not had a phone oh that's true yeah yeah yeah okay my gift has been sent i sent my gift in the mail to my guy i don't or a girl who knows who knows yeah i got mine i'll tell you this shout out alan hunt i got mine um oh i hope we're supposed to be able to use real name but we can right i think so yeah i got a grip of dope stickers i got some skate wax it smells like grip of dope stickers he sent me he sent me two eight balls in the mail i got some wax that smells like blueberries. It says dope on it. And I just said dope, not even thinking that it said dope on my wax.

That's marijuana concentrate, Sean. Yeah. And then I got some cocaine. I got a book that said how to keep your marriage from sucking, which is pretty fun. So I got another book on deck. So shout out. Thank you. Got another book on deck.

Not a strong reader, Allison. Heison he reads though i'm reading that jeopardy book oh by my colleague claire mcnear yeah yeah yeah it's so it's like when i start reading a book i i understand why maybe some people who read a bunch can kind of sound pretentious because i spew everything i learned from the book minutes after I read it. I just find someone to with ears and I'm like, you need it. Do you know about Jeopardy? I got some stuff about Jeopardy to tell you. Also, my coping mechanism for stress is weirdly to like read a lot of nonfiction because just like consuming facts drowns out all the other things. So the last time I did this was after the election. I read all those fucking corny, like here's what you need to read

to understand Trump's America. And this time it was like a more diffuse range, but I just posted out all the books I read on Twitter. And I was like, wow, I read like three novels this year. And then everything else was like, did you know that the East India Company technically governed the entire subcontinent for the most of the 19th century?

I saw your list. I want to read that East India Company book. That seems interesting. It's actually great and very like subtly communist. It's very like, it's super fucked up that they just let like a for-profit corporation like govern a huge country for like a long time. I can't imagine. Yeah.

Yeah. It's very fucked up, but it was like a fucked up thing that was not the fucked up reality that I was living in. So that was like my thing. But to go back to the Jeopardy book, I'll plug it for Claire.

It's called Answers in the Form of Questions. It is like a behind the scenes, you know, sort of history or reported account of Jeopardy. And it was very cool because my friend actually just came out to LA to do Jeopardy which, yikes, because they're still flying people in, but it was

cool to eat outside with her. Yeah, that'll be really fun too. God, rest in peace to a true legend. Alex Trebek. I want to shout out Sean Lacey was my secret Santa and he sent me a really nice tea diffuser cup because I've been drinking a lot of tea because I've been off coffee. Fun Santa, and he sent me a really nice tea diffuser cup, because I've

been drinking a lot of tea, because I've been off coffee. Fun. And then he sent me the Funko Pop figurine that looks like me. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Dragon Ball Z. Oh, my God. He's Slacy on the slack, is his name.

That's insane. And when I had the mustache before I had to shave it to play Santa Carms, it looks so much like me. It's got the eyebrows. I was about to say, that is no longer the precise facial hair configuration, but it is the facial hair configuration you have made very enduring jokes about

in your stand-up routine. So I feel like it's more fitting. It's the real me. That mustache will be back and probably before too long. But thank you for that. And thank you for everyone on the Slack. I hope you have a really wonderful holiday and everyone on too long. But thank you for that. And thank you for everyone on the Slack. I hope you have a really wonderful holiday

and everyone on the Patreon. Yeah, you're just really wonderful. Now, Allison, how you understand what a serpentine means, what will the order of today's draft be? Okay, I'm just going to keep things easy for me. And because this is 2020, instead of the actual order we're sitting in, I'm going to go the order that it is displayed

on my Zoom gallery view. So I am in the top right, then Sean, then David, then Ian. Ian, you're like chilling at the bottom. It's like a great way for the host to be because it looks like you're at the head of the table. That's how my screen is too. Hot corner.

Yeah, so I feel like that's a good order. And also selfishly, I can kick things off. I was going to ask Alison before you pick, do you feel, and the rest of you, do you feel like there's one clear front runner or, or is it kind of all over the place? I'm, I'm all over the place. I'm pretty all over the place. Yeah. Like any, any year with a pop culture thing, it's more personal taste than almost any other topic we do, you know? Although we did discuss, I think what is going to be a shared pick so i may i may monopolize that and then so we can kick this off yeah yeah well there was no eclipse this year but i mean you know that's true there was no eclipse this year didn't you take

another fucked up pick too i took uh what was that old shithead's name um the politician what was his name um roy was it roy something oh. I thought it was like an earthquake or something. But Roy Moore works, too. What was Roy Moore? That's right. Yeah. Well, that was that year. This is this year. And we will get to that first pick right after this short break. This episode of all fantasy, everything is brought to you by Schedule 35. Now, microdosing is an absolute game changer. I have never heard a bad word about it. And like we said, this episode of All Fantasy Everything is brought to you by Schedule 35, our partner in getting things done. Imagine if you could.

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all fantasy everything that's it yeah joe who yeah we don't know who joe is although there is one episode of the drink champs with pharrell which just came out but that's it yeah yeah he he talks about how he looks so young yeah it's been good i'm like i'm only like half an hour into it but it's been a real good episode drink drink champs makes you feel drunk yeah yeah they're all in a place recording together too it sounds like there's a lot of people in that room it's sound it's like man people say this podcast is like listening to some people hang out that podcast is really just some dudes in a room yeah that's dudes in a room just like just really a whole genre of podcast dudes

in a room that's like how I do not, frankly, like listen to enough Joe Rogan to have any sort of opinion on it. But once I found out that like a significant proportion of episodes are literally four hours long,

I was like, that's, that's it. I don't even have any objection to anything ideologically. Just like, you know, you can listen to whatever you want.

Just don't ask me to listen to four hours of it. It's crazy how popular it is and how long it is. That's insane. Like, like, you know, you can listen to whatever you want. Just don't ask me to listen to four hours of it. It's crazy how popular it is and how long it is. That's insane. Like all the other most popular podcasts are like half an hour to an hour, you know, they're like, and then Joe Rogan, four hours. Right. Like the daily, like the whole thing is like, we give you everything you need to know in

like 20 minutes or whatever. And you can go about your day. And this is like, no, you will be spending an afternoon. Yeah, this is your whole fucking life now. Allison, you have the first pick in the 2020 recap All Fantasy Everything draft. What will that pick be? Okay, well

I've gone for like more conceptual first picks in past years and I feel like, you know, maybe we can talk about an abstract concept when we talk about this particular pop cultural thing. So you mentioned lots of people watching older stuff from past years. I also feel like, you know, maybe we can talk about an abstract concept when we talk about this particular pop cultural thing. So you mentioned lots of people watching older stuff from past years. I also feel like the story of the pandemic is like we're all even more addicted to streaming services than we are before. You mentioned Disney, which obviously is like every Marvel thing and children's entertainment known to man.

And then, you know, the big daddy is Netflix, host of the Ian Carmel 15-minute special. That's right. is Netflix, host of the Ian Carmel 15-minute special. And, you know, I think a thing that a lot of us watch on Netflix that has one thing that came out this year but is mostly like a very large body of things that you can just binge because we all have an infinite amount of time is what is known for copyright

reasons is the Great British Baking Show. But we will call Great British Bake Off because that is obviously what it is but this season was a bad season which I realized because I was watching all the old seasons

while I was watching it and I was like this is clearly a weaker cast because they had to film it in lockdown and normally their whole schtick is that they're just like normal people who go live their lives during the week. But I get the hype now. It's awesome.

Had you not watched it before? No, it's like been a thing that I knew the vibe. I knew like all the things that it was famous for. I knew like Paul Hollywood was British Guy Fieri kind of. But like I never actually taken an interest in it because I'm very much I'm not one of those people who like literally can't bake at all because I can't follow a recipe like I'm very good at just doing it I'm just more like I'm not patient enough to prove anything you know like also like yeast is very finicky like I've definitely left stuff and it just hasn't risen

and it's been not worth the effort so I haven't been like a baking person and then this was the year where I was like I have nothing better to do and also I need like a weapons grade dose of serotonin so you're in there you're in the lab now you're baking yeah I haven't really the most ambitious thing I baked as a result of the show was I made an entire pan of caramel pecan sticky buns, which are like, I had to like toast sugar, which is a thing that you can do. And then it required two proves. And then like, they're so insanely like heavy and sweet that I could only eat like one and a half when they were fresh, which is when you're supposed to eat them. And then I had to sort of like graze off of a half sale batch for the rest of the week. But, uh great i love i love baking i love that show i'm not a great

baker at all but my girlfriend bakes like the fucking dickens she like bakes all the time we're making i baked i was with that we baked we baked we made holla we baked holla bread impressive i We baked you a challah bread. It was sick. It was impressive. I also, I was gifted a stand mixer because my boyfriend's grandma sent him one, like, unsolicited, and he already has one. So my baking game has been elevated. I just. Oh, yeah. The KitchenAid? No, a Sneg, which is even. It's basically like the less practical KitchenAid for people who look at appliances more than they use them which is also why my boyfriend was like i don't really need this but uh yeah like that's what when i was like

what should i make with this stand mixer everyone was like you should make challah or brioche because that shit is a pain in the ass to make if you don't have something they can do the kneading for you yeah i fucking making challah was great speaking of yeast being finicky it didn't rise the first time she had to go back to gelsons for more yeast there you go she had to go back to gelsons to get more yeast for the challah that is the most jewish that gelsons has ever sounded gelsons is a waspy supermarket it is but if you say it right gelsons we used lemons from my lemon tree in the backyard to make lemon muffins once which which was like so wholesome. It's been like, it's been a big year for nesting

and baking is a very nesting adjacent like activity. You have time. Yeah, you have time. And you want to fill it. And like, God, the house smells amazing for like a day and a half after you bake. That's how I feel about braising. Like I'm definitely more of a like stick short ribs in the oven for six hours and

make the entire house smell like red wine. I love that. It's mostly like, I feel like if you bake at all, it just gives you an appreciation for how insanely hard what bake off makes them do is. Yes. Why do you think this season wasn't like,

I I've heard a lot of people say that I enjoyed this season as much as I enjoyed any season that I've like gone back and rewatched or anything, especially, I love the like kid who won. Cause he always looked like he was just coming in from a snowball fight. Oh man. I don't want to, I don't want to rag on, on anyone who is clearly as talented as he is, but he was not my favorite. Like, first of all, so the new judge, Matt Lucas, I don't think has, like, I enjoy his work as a comedian, but he just doesn't have the same chemistry

as Noel Fielding did with Sandy, the last judge, where they had a real, like, Noel's, like, seven feet tall and Sandy's, like, an elf. It felt like Noel and Matt made each other laugh more than they made like, they were like,

clearly were like mates from back in the day and like were good at cracking each other up, but they weren't like, they didn't have, it was a much different, it was like almost an inside baseball comedy thing between the two of them. Yeah, this is not like my novel observation,

but someone was like, GBBO hosts need to be like a Burt and an Ernie. And like Matt and Noel just had way too like samey energy. And like that didn't make for a good dynamic. But I think the big thing was just the fact that like they had to do it in quarantine. And what makes GBBO so interesting is the fact that like they are real amateurs. And they make it so that you can do it while you still are like living a normal life. And the fact that like they were on lockdown.

I'm sure that means like just also like in terms of logistics, they didn't have as much time to practice, which is like a big thing that they are allowed to do. Also, like you could just tell like the skill level on average was not as high. Also, like, you could just tell, like, the skill level on average was not as high. And finally, Lottie and Sora, who were, like, the two best contestants in terms of, like, being on camera, just went home way too early. And there was just no one to root for. So shocked by Lottie going home early. I thought she was top three for sure, like, she was going to be. But, you know, that's the way the cookie crumbles.

I think she's going to have best like post career that's also like my favorite part of GBBO is getting into the sort of like bachelor universe part of it where like

people have become genuinely big and important but in like wholesome cute ways instead of like soul eating influencer ways

did either of you bruvs watch Great British Bake Off not at all a little bit with you but I'm enjoying the recap alright I will just share one last take because this is not

great podcasting if you guys can't participate fully in the conversation but there's like two eras there's the like public broadcasting era where they have Mary Berry who's basically the British Martha Stewart and Mel and Sue who are this comedy duo and I know everyone got like really upset when they went to the for-profit Channel 4 and like had more of a talent. Basically, Paul Hollywood is the only one who stayed, which like maybe doesn't reflect on him well as a person.

But I kind of prefer the newer people. Like Prue Leith is iconic. Like I looked up her life history and it's insane oh i haven't looked it up what's up what's up with it give us so okay i'll just give a pocket history she's from south africa that's like why her accent isn't like totally british her first husband is a kroger who is like basically uh you know also in south africa so there's definitely a lot of fucked up history there like she's a rich white lady

from a colonialist country yeah like just that disclaimer needs to be out there but her first husband was basically South African royalty

like descendant of one of the like governors there's a national park named after the family he's like 20 something years older than her and they met

because he was the husband of her mom's best friend and when she was like 20 they were having they like had an affair and like caused a whole scandal. Oh, yeah. And then, you know, she just like is one of those like colorful old ladies who like constantly drop stories about like, oh, when I was like in a like hotel kitchen in Hong Kong or like her biography includes a story

about going to an orgy in Paris and not participating. Wow. And then finally, her and her current husband only moved in together during lockdown. And for 11 years, they had like adjacent mansions in the Cornish countryside because she was like, I don't want to have, it was like, you know, Whoopi Goldberg. Like, I don't want to have someone's stuff in my house.

That's amazing. Yeah. Again, like white woman from South Africa and her son is like an MP who's friends with Boris Johnson. So like. Oh yeah. I had somebody tweet. I was tweeting about it.

Somebody like hit or Dana tweeted about it and someone was like, oh, you heard kids like a Tory. I'm like, I can't care about. Well, also they joke on the show about how posh she is and she's like very self-aware about the fact that she's like a glamorous rich lady.

Yeah. Which is just much more fun to me than Mary Berry, who's like a very prim British grandma. Prue Leith dresses and clothing that you can only buy at museum, like modern art museum gift stores too. Like that's all of her clothing

and like jewelry i just can't but i just can't get worked up about like a british a posh british woman's son's politics like that can't cancel a show for me i'm sorry there are things that can cancel shows for me but that's definitely not one of them but yeah baking big fucking year for baking we're gonna we're gonna cook some shit out of this oh shit okay that's another yeah that is another thing we will probably talk about later on this podcast but uh yeah i think gbbo is like really huge here because it's american it's uh on netflix in america and then also the fact that i feel like this is the first or second year that

it came out weekly and like everyone i know is watching it like a sport. It was like, I'm so upset that Lottie went home. Sorry guys. Like I'm so upset that this person won. Like it just, because there was so little to do, it was really funny to watch people get like really,

really invested in this thing that is like deliberately low stakes. I can't recommend it strongly enough. Excellent pick. Excellent. First pick Sean time for your first pick tiger king oh my god yeah i forgot i forgot that that was this year i did too it wasn't on my list that's so funny that was the i remember watching it being like as we watched it i realized that this wasn't going to be a fun two week lockdown this wasn't going to be well because in the very beginning i remember being like yeah i gotta what fuck it a few weeks it'll be like a long sleepover and then i remember watching tiger king over the course of like a week and realizing like this is going to be a minute that we're doing this

i like how tiger king was what made you realize that it's just like so dark and chaotic that you were like you know what this this is the whole It's just so dark and chaotic that you were like, you know what? The whole year is going to be like this. The world isn't good. It couldn't be good. The week of like, because we'd be like, all right, let's watch a couple tonight.

But we hadn't really gotten to that level of like, let's watch seven episodes of one thing tonight. And then over the week, there was no positive, like, we're coming out of this news and i remember finishing the tiger king pretty quick and being like okay it's gonna we'll be doing this for a minute but yeah tiger king man fascinating had everything there gripping uh the characters were just bananas you wouldn't believe any of it if they weren't sitting there telling you people missing limbs i mean it was just crazy it was just shocker after shocker the denim alone in that movie was enough in that show to be like

holy buckets people have denim like this somewhere his music career yeah dude that shit bag from las vegas whatever his name was all those every just reveal after reveal after reveal the fact that like like the fact that he was gay, it was like, what? That too? Just all these fucking curveballs. You're like, that guy? And his boyfriend too. It did not stop.

His boyfriend wasn't gay, but he was like, well, I love the Tiger King so much that I'll be gay. I think I love him so much that, yeah, I'll be gay. I'll, you know, I, yeah, I think I love him so much that he's, he's turned my sexuality. I mean, the fact that that lady definitely maybe murdered her husband and then was on dancing with the stars like five months later and everyone was like, this is definitely who we should be giving a public platform to at this point in time. She murdered her husband for sure that was crazy i mean allegedly hey yeah yeah i'm not here i'm not a fucking nuts i think like i mean that was that would have been huge no matter when it got dropped but like when it got dropped

yeah just like what are they luck is preparation meets opportunity like everyone watched that shit it was like everywhere. Cause I was really heavy on Twitter and stuff at that time in the year. And it was just like, that's all anybody. There's so many screening. That's all anybody was talking about for a few days. I mean,

that was right when I got on Tik TOK and like the, the biggest meme that I saw was the audio Joe exotic, just like listing everything that is like going on with him where he's like i am gay i am addicted to drugs and it's just and that audio would just be playing over like someone made a crochet out of it like yeah that to me was the first where it's like that's what i'll think about i think hopefully when i look back and the the the harshness of all this gradually fades away in your mind and you look back and you have memory that'll be one of them where i'm like i remember the beginning when i watched tiger

king and how it just completely how i realized a few things when i watched it over the course of a week that this would be it will be indelibly linked to early quarantine tiger king and tigers and tigers excellent pick yeah tiger king david time for your first pick uh my first pick i didn't even engage in this i just uh saw it happen and i think it's like one of the more 2020 things to happen is uh animal crossing oh dude yes. Yes. Just like people looking for a community because we're all stuck inside. It's such a like, it's always going to be tied to this time for me.

This is your fucking the smell of weed pick, dude. Yeah, this is my smell of weed. I'm saying you're going for the power team right now. I spent hundreds of hours on that game. Hundreds. I was about to say, who here played it? Because I don't play video games. Me. Mar was about to say, like, who here played it? Because I,

like, don't play video games. Me, yeah. Marissa was in it, right? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I was in it. Marissa's pissed. Marissa was going to pick it. Marissa, are you heated right now? Are you just doing a, are you doing a beat saber

with a broom handle just to get the energy out? I, I didn't actually think of Animal Crossing, so I'm just glad it got brought up because I think it's a great pick. Hell yeah.

Yeah, I think it's, I think it's just so indicative of this year, top to bottom. Yeah. It's just like really interesting that people were like, to be able to find that community, like people were doing shows on there and stuff. Stand-up shows in there. Jenny Yang, yeah, she had like the stand-up shows on there.

Which was probably one of my favorite stand-up shows I saw streamed because you could hear the audience and it was just funny to see the stand-ups as little Animal Crossing characters. I thought he was a lot of fun. Very adorable. It also feels like a good like bookend with Cyberpunk 2077 where it's like, here's a video game that actually like worked and brought people together. And like, that's one thing we really needed in 2020. And here's something that's a complete fucking train wreck that doesn't work for anyone and made everyone mad which also feels very 2020 yeah didn't they recall it or something yeah sony was like we're gonna give everyone refunds and then they took it out of the store whoa i don't know i'm not i'm not a huge gamer but uh animal

crossing animal crossing was great it was kind of in the lineage of like stardew valley just like a a very peaceful game where you just kind of hang out and like sure do things grow things like meet people on the island decorate a bunch of speaking of we were talking about the uh the slack earlier there was like a big stardew valley community on the slack we would go to each other's islands sell turnips for each other like all the all the things you gotta do to me that makes me i remembered when you guys would talk about it made me be i want to play games that's one where i'm like i want to do that sounds fun i don't know i don't want to play like call on it and was like who's gonna go to my island everyone yeah except my uncle steve he probably wouldn't go but that's neither here nor there i know i know this person will not be identified

but they are definitely a boomer but they uh donated to AOC's primary, like primary challengers campaign. And I was like, imagine missing the point that hard. Wait, who did? Just an older person in my life who is still a Democrat, but like on the conservative side donated to her opponent. That's bonkers. Oy vey. Animal Crossing. Animal Crossing. It was so fun. that's bonkers animal crossing

it was so fun I literally probably spent hundreds of hours on there because that was early quarantine as well it's when we were doing the show in the garage and I would like wake up do my first like hour of work stuff then jump on animal crossing play that

and then I would just keep it open intermittently like throughout the work day because like our work days ended up being like 14 hours like just insane amounts of time because everything was being done remotely so there would just be these like 45 minute gaps where i'd be like all right let me fucking go harvest apples or like whatever yeah like 14 hours but like you're not doing it the whole time it's not a 14 hour straight through yeah but like the days would start at like 7 a.m and then end at like nine sometimes would be like the final meeting of the night like initially when you wake up you would say why'd you leave your makeup on the

table yeah wake up yeah yeah well we were in glendale at the time so absolutely i did that you have to say it every time you wake up yeah speaking of switch i started playing breath of the wild this year that zelda game it didn't Absolutely, I did that. You have to sing it every time you wake up. Speaking of the Switch, I started playing Breath of the Wild this year, that Zelda game. It didn't come out this year, so obviously we can't take it,

but ooh boy, that is good. I can't believe I slept on it for so long. Didn't you put out a ukulele album called Breath of the Wild? Yes, I did, yeah. Ukulele and pan flute. Pan flute, shit, that would have been better. I couldn't think of anything quick. One of the guys would play both at the same time.

That's all right. There's a ukulele On our dining room table That's why That's why I said that Breath of the wild Is actually what you hear When you call David's

Old phone Oh yeah You just hear The breath of the wild This is the bottom Of the lake It picks up every time Stop it

This is the bottom Of the lake How's your body Ew I'm wet And I'm cold anyway sorry animal crossing excellent pick time for my first and second picks as it is as it is uh oh so okay i'm gonna have to take

a tv show with my first one. I'm going to go TV shows. And I am going to take the latest season of The Crine. Yes. The Crine. Yeah. Yes. Had to get brought up.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for picking the latest season of The Crine. The Crine. Olivia Colman. I forget it was an interview with someone. And she, like, you know how when someone does a voice, they usually have, like, a word that gets them into that voice,

and they were like, what's your word that gets you into, like, Queen Elizabeth? And she's like, you say yes, but you say it like ears. Ears. Ears. Ears. Wow. Ears.

Wow, I'm going to do it for the rest of the day, I think. Sean, did you empty the litter boxes? Ears. All day, dude. I think Sean did you empty the litter boxes is can I give a give a book recommendation speaking of all the nonfiction that I inhaled in quarantine this was like also in early March so this was like really when it all hit I read Tina Brown's

biography of Princess Diana which if you read if you watch the fourth season of the crown you're like wow Prince Charles is a real piece of shit and you want to keep feeling that, you should read that book. Because it's basically just like a much more detailed story of, you know, where Diana was coming from and like what happened with their marriage. And also it's like very bitchy and dishy because it's Tina Brown. So pardon my pardon my ignorance here. So what happened? i'm not giving any

spoilers because this is true what happened right like you should know the story of princess die and prince charles yeah did you watch the crown sean no i didn't i put it on my list and laura like immediately she looks over she's like you didn't watch it i was like it's at the bottom of my list i'm just saying but she took a tone like yes well you can't say that and i was like listen i don't smoke weed but you didn't stop me so prince charles and die that was an arranged marriage right to get him away from camilla or not quite it was like a very officially sanctioned marriage because when you're the prince of england you can't just date whoever the pool is like a hundred people or whatever like a, two hundred people who you

could have like acceptably married, right? Like. But he was in love with Camilla, right? Yeah. So like he and Camilla have a longstanding affair and he's 32 when they get married and Diana was like 20. So also before I read the book, I didn't really know anything about them except like she was very famous

and she died tragically and they did not have a happy marriage and I didn't really get all the details. And one of the things that you get from both the season of The Crown and the book is like she was so fucking young when they got married. They had nothing in common and they met, get this, before they literally walked down the aisle and got married, they met in person like 13 times. Yeah.

And then they were like together for what was supposed to be for life. And he was like old for 32, and she was like, seemed like young even for 20. That's what she's like in the show. She's roller skating through the palace, you know, listening to like Duran Duran or whatever. They do a good job of like illustrating that. The show the show also I think does a great job of illustrating her like her just her magnetism and her charisma like when they go to the episode where they go to

Australia or when they go to America and she like hugs that child who has AIDS which was like a huge moment she was just like it's weird like she just. I don't even know if she understood. Maybe the book goes more into this, but like either she was just like, uh, naturally adept at it or understood like modern media and how to like come off. Well, like so much better than anyone in the Royal family.

And they all hated her for it. Like they were all just so bitter, which, but it's also weird because she was known as the people's princess. And like, for the royal, standards of the royal family, it was kind of a big deal slash slight widening of the eligibility pool.

But she's still from a very aristocratic background and like, very, like a thing I learned is that her grandfather or father is like, I'm going to fuck up the actual title. But it's something like Earl Chester, and it's like, it is a higher, more prestigious title to be called the Earl proper noun than the Earl of proper noun.

And that's the thing that people like really care about in England. Oh, wow. But basically the season of The Crown, for those who haven't watched, it's every season is a decade. At first people are like, why is anyone every season is a decade. At first, people are like, why is anyone going to watch a show about Queen Elizabeth II? And a lot of it is

basically making, like, kind of dry, boring history exciting. But then the 80s are A, Princess Diana, and B, Margaret Thatcher. And those are two, like, very iconoclastic, very famous, very important figures. And Emma Curran plays Princess diana and jillian

anderson who until recently was dating the man who created the crown yeah plays margaret thatcher and she is awesome i loved her i saw people like right when the season came out i saw some people criticizing her saying like she's playing like an snl version of margaret thatcher and i was like uh-oh and then i watched it and i'm like what the fuck were you talking about she did so good also like have you seen margaret thatcher like she is a cartoon she is a character oh she was so good and then like just all the revolving characters too or so like princess anne is always amazing and you got to meet like prince andrew but like uh like all the other like like the crown vaguely alluding to Jeffrey Epstein without actually saying what it's talking about was

an incredible moment. Yeah. That was amazing. It's just, it's just so fucking good. Even I didn't have any interest in like British royalty before I started watching the crown and there's only four seasons of it. Uh, and it like pulled me in immediately. It's so well written.

It's so great. And also I got to say like politically, I almost resented how sympathetic, you know, it acknowledges that Margaret Thatcher did a lot of stuff that was not great, but it manages to make like fucking Queen Bootstraps herself be like the voice of populist resentment against the monarchy.

Because there's an episode where she goes to their castle and has a terrible time and is like, fuck all you people. You have done nothing to earn anything. You are so unpleasant to be around.

I do not respect you. I do not owe you any of my time. I'm going to go do my job that people elected me to and that I earned. And you can all chill. And you're like, yes.

And then you're like, wait, that's Margaret Thatcher. That's Margaret Thatcher. I don't like this person I will not play Ible Dibble have you seen that video where the

impressionist I think her Twitter name is Lisa B Experience and she's like I'm going to have a private audience with the queen immediately and it's a cut out of Beyonce I'm going to have a private audience with the queen immediately. And it's a cut out of Beyonce. It's just an incredible impression.

And it just built up to a great joke. This also lets me do my Prince Philip impression, which I've been workshopping for a while and I think is getting pretty good. You got it there? Let me see if I can call upon Prince Philip. Yes. Welcome back to Old Fantasy Everything. A podcast where we fantasy drift anything and everything from the world of pop culture.

Sean Jordan. Sean S. Jordan on Twitter. Sean Cougar Melon Jordan on the gram. Ew. Let's do it. It's all right, right? Yeah. I think that's a good, like, English aristocrat.

I don't know if it's quite Prince Philip, because you've got to get that, like, Tobias. You're kicking off the podcast. Okay, I had a great time. Something happened to the show. I don't know, like, Tobias Menzies is such great, like, gravel in his voice what would they

what would they ever do what would they ever do supposed to keep your mouth open N is my favorite I don't know I'm also doing a shitty job yours is way better than mine N is my favorite we'll come back next year

I'm gonna do Harvey Fierstein for the rest of the podcast. So I'm going to go. I took the crown with my first one. I'm going, ah, shit, this is tough.

There's a lot of, there wasn't one clear pick for me, but there is a lot of stuff at the top. And then, oh, got to rip the band. I'm going TV show, TV show. I'm taking Mando.ando oh that's an easy one yeah are you

do you are you caught up you watch yeah I just got I finished it last night so dude for the next I don't know so okay for the let's like spoilers I only I've watched like only the early part of the season so Sean would you be mad if we get spoiled yeah uh no i know i know baby yoda's name no i won't be mad at all so for the next like two minutes yeah sean we can talk about spoilers so if you're what if you're listening to this and you haven't seen the end of the mandalorian yet go ahead and fast forward and we're being fair i don't want to hear any shit i don't want to catch any guff on social media from this because we're being fair we've given you now plenty of warning i'm literally setting a timer right now for two minutes and we will stop after two minutes no

matter what i'm starting right now and again we'll be back in two minutes not spoiling it that was so dope that luke skywalker came out at the end of it that was oh my god you know you said you don't care right i don't yeah i don't really care it's already happened we're on we're 12 seconds in Sean I saw all the stuff about how it's bigger now and they're expanding the universe it makes a lot of sense so Grand Moff Gideon has the black lightsaber

and he fights Mando in the last one and you're just like is he going to lose is he going to cut his Mandalorian's deal and then when Luke showed up it was reminiscent of Vader I forget the newest one where Vader goes through the up and just it was reminiscent of vader in um i forget the newest one where vader goes through the hallway and just fucks up everyone that's what luke did to all the black not that the dark troopers they were calling him luke wrecked shit yeah yeah and you

saw what do they have playing him mark hamill yeah i don't know oh i forgot it's it's between okay i forgot about the timeline. 19 years after Jedi. It looks like it doesn't even look like Jedi Mark Hamill. It looks like a new hope Mark Hamill before the car accident. Disney's got some fucked up technology or their own clones. I wouldn't put that past them. That's somewhere. And it's like the Irishman de-aging, like in a way you couldn't possibly make fun of

it's like it's done really really well i think right when it showed up when the x-wing flew in and they're like one x-wing i got goosebumps and i almost started crying because i was like oh my gosh this is so fun one x-wing and then the green lightsaber and you're like only one person has a green lightsaber and then he's like wrecking oh and like then did you watch after the credits no there's an after the credits watch after the credits after the credits watch after the credits i don't want to like yuck anyone's yum like i totally also like the mandalorian the score is amazing shout out to logan morrison and like they the action that they stage is super cool i respect like what people really like about it but just the fact that it is packaged to this

Disney Death Star, we're literally rolling out 10 more shows. Give me all of them. Give me all of them. Just pause for a second. From this moment on, no more spoilers about what happens in the second half of The Mandalorian. I accidentally transitioned

us out to the conceptual stuff. You're welcome. You're a natural. I'll take all the Disney stuff you got. You're welcome. You're a natural. I'll take all the Disney stuff you got. It could make 30 more Star Wars movies. I like the prequels. It's all gravy to me. I like the prequels because they're so goddamn weird. They could never come out of the IP machine that modern Disney is. That's my thing.

I love all the main movies except for episode nine, the most recent one, Rise of Skywalker. That one sucked. Look at how good The Mandalorian is. That was something that people I imagine were like, ugh, more Disney stuff or more Star Wars, but it's so good. You know, if it's bad, then I lose nothing. If it's good, then I gain a good show

or movie. But even The Mandalorian, to me, it's amazing at action and world building and stuff, but the stuff that i go to care go to tv for is like character like how how hype we just got talking about margaret fucking thatcher yeah i don't i don't get that when i'm talking about either like mando we're done with the star wars now we got to delete that because we were done with the star wars spoilers so sorry everybody yeah jillian anderson shows up as up as Margaret Thatcher in the Mandalorian

yes sorry I should not have let that slip baby Yoda can take care of baby Yoda's self I will not call him Grogu uh I would I agree with you it's it's a different kind of tv show and that's I may have said this the last time we talked about the Mandalorian but like that's kind of what I like about it it has more in common with like doctor who or walker texas ranger than it does with like the sopranos or madman it's not like it's a western kids cereal and like it's very good at being that i don't again i don't mean to be one of those people who's like star wars is for fucking kids like i cried when i saw the last jedi in theaters and I saw it like two or three times like don't don't worry I'm I'm in but just I don't know like it Mando doesn't click for me the way it does for other people and that's like a me thing I don't think it was I I just took it

second I don't it wasn't my second favorite thing that came out this year I don't oh sorry it wasn't the second best thing that came out this year I don't even think it was one of the 10 best things that came out this year if we're talking about like an artistic achievement the way we maybe traditionally would but it hooked me so fucking hard and like especially that last episode like was one of the coolest the last part of that last episode was like one of the coolest experiences i've had watching something all year it It just fucking shook me like that. Pedro Pascal's voice, man. That got me right away where I'm like, ooh, the Viper. That is the best gig in show business.

Can you imagine? You are starring in the biggest show on TV, and you don't have to do that much. You're like, you could be David. You could just record from a remote ice fishing hut, dude. You could do all his- I mean, don't tell Viacom, dude. Yeah.

The Mandeborian, dude. Out of your ice fishing hut dude he can do all his i mean don't tell viacom dude yeah the mandiborian dude the mandiborian also i don't know if we're allowed to mention this but i did a i did a whole story about animation and david actually referred me to like some people i ended up talking to for the for the story so that was super helpful well come on guys we're outing all my stuff today david david's also a huge figure in the in the uh in the vegan fur community right now yeah i'm also deep throat he's also deep throat not that one though a different one different whole different subreddit david's running the uh the brooklyn nets front office he's a shadow gm what else you got going on that's crazy you're on the fight and transition team you have like an incoming role he's relaunching genuine the r&b singer i mean we're in talks we're in talks guys this isn't

about me this is about the end of the year all right you're right you're right well let's get to your second pick then okay uh my second pick and this is a weird one but this is also always gonna make me think of this year and just the way it happened is so so oddly now is the rise of dog face 420 oh yeah yes absolutely absolutely whoa we were all doing so bad that we just wanted to see a guy who was okay riding a skateboard yeah like the first time i saw that clip i did watch it over and over and over again and it did make me feel so good genuine happiness yeah then i went back and listened to that album and was like this album is great the song charted because of that video that was the crazy part like Fleetwood Mac like

Rumors went on the charts again and then also like multiple members of Fleetwood Mac got in on the meme it was crazy Rumors is such a good album and it's fun to just look he's like now all these kids are like I bet I don't know but I bet there were so many kids that were like who sings this song and then they found out about Fleetwood Mac and this dope album. And that's how they look. They're banging the Tuscan shit, dude. Yeah. And he got he got like the car filled with ocean spray.

Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong. I was looking. I was reading. Does he not live in L.A.? He lives in Boise. No, he doesn't live in L.A. I thought he was an L.A. dude.

He's native and lives like somewhere in the mountain west and was literally like commuting to work on his skateboard and which is why he ended up getting a car because people were like this dude needs like transportation

that's crazy I mean he was also living in like a trailer it's just like the most 2020 and like social media has been

so terribly toxic this year yeah it was really nice to take something that's just like simple and easy from it that's an excellent point year yeah it was really nice to take something that's just like simple and easy from it that's an excellent point yeah and it was just and it was just so this year just so this year people just wanted to see somebody who looked like he was okay even to

the point that he got coronavirus it was so this year yeah yeah it was so yeah he got corona and like and just watching him come up you know what i mean He's got like a place and he like, I think he proposed to his girl. His family seems to be doing better. It's like all that. Like sometimes social media is okay. Yeah. The fact that he's like avoided milkshake ducking is like very nice. Yeah.

Yeah. And he seems to be very like, he seems to be very Zen as far as far as take it all as it comes, but then he's not. I don't think he'll be too upset when it leaves. You know what I mean? Yeah, he's not being corny about it. But did Sean re-ask him to explain what a milkshake duck is? Milkshake duck.

Are the kids doing that? What is a milkshake duck? It is a phrase that comes from a tweet where it's like, oh, everyone loves the milkshake duck, the duck that drinks milkshakes. Two weeks later, we regret to inform you that the duck is racist. That was, like, the name. And now milkshake ducking refers to the thing where, like, someone becomes a big viral success, and then you... Sort of like jumping the shirt.

Like, Ten Bone. Ten Bone. Yeah, where everyone was like, oh, my God, the dude in the sweater. And then he turned out to be in, like, weird porn and shit. And, like, all that in in the public eye so like upstairs and use it on the queen uh laura your milkshake ducking over here what are you and then i'm gonna walk outside go walk outside smoke a clove hell yeah don't confuse it with donald ducking which is where your shirt no pants did which yeah very different yeah also a meme from

cyberpunk 2077 is it yeah that's like a thing that your avatar will just like randomly be like standing and won't have pants on oh my god game sounds fine to me game sounds fine to me yeah good call david sian time for your second pick i'm gonna stick with uh television and i'm gonna pick the last dance starring oh shit yeah that was on my list for sure that was and that was again like going so that was a little farther in and i remember they were teasing it so much and i was just because at that point i was like i'm inside i'm give me this and they kept it weekly i can't believe i forgot it i can't believe i fucking forgot the last dance they kept it weekly too which is nice because it gave me a semblance of like you know

cool this is norm i can't binge this i can't watch the whole shit right right away so but it was also like two hours a week so you got the thing where everyone was just watching it for like more than they normally would absolutely yeah and it was gripping i mean it didn't make michael jordan look like a great guy because he he wasn't he's not a great guy having known that it was amazing to see it like acknowledged yeah well and but they also he wasn't like a super because i feel like people are on either side of the fence but no one's in the middle he's not like a super villain he's just a very competitive dude that's how how you know Michael Jordan is a psycho because he was involved in the production of that

in a big way. And he was like, yes. And still came off kind of bad, but he was like, this is damage control. You know how I know he's a psycho is every single shot when he was interviewed, his glass of whiskey was at a different level. That's how I know he's a psycho where I'm like you're just getting shithouse this whole

time and then he starts crying and you're like you're drunk this is a drunk crowd the meme of like and i took that personally is also just like a truly versatile and widely usable meme also this is gonna sound like very dumb but i feel like i forget just how insanely rich michael jordan is because of all the shoe stuff sure like he's not just like ex-pro athlete rich he is like delusional compound i don't ever interact with normal people rich how are you supposed to be realistic when you have that kind of money it'd be hard he's a billionaire yeah and yeah i mean aside from chuck taylor he's like he invented the pro shoe right like he was the first person that he did it he did the whole thing pioneered it all anyway it

was just very the whole thing was interesting uh pippin like seeing seeing seeing some interviews of scotty pippin was real fun how slow that dude talks really oh yeah that got me through weeks of quarantine where i'm like man he's pretty chilled out sc Scotty. Scotty Pippen's taking it easy. Why can't I? I don't know. Scotty Pippen's having a bad year. Yeah, he is. It's not going good for him at all.

His ex-wife is like a reality TV character now. Yeah, he's having a tough time. Scotty Pippen Jr. is like a decent college basketball player, though. He's out here doing it. Yeah, I loved all the little satellite documentaries, there were little, like, satellite documentaries. You got a little bit about Steve Kerr. You got the Phil Jackson one. You got, like, all that stuff.

All that Olympic stuff that I've been wanting to see forever. And you get, like, Tony Kukoc, who was Bill, what's his name, or B.J. Armstrong. You get to see the interviews with the side players where you're like, cool, let me hear from them a little bit. I haven't heard from them in 20 years. I always wanted to know what Luke Long longley thought uh the long way yeah no long it was also fun just having it be at the same time every week and then like like i said i was on

social media a lot at that point so it's just like oh it's sunday or whatever day it was everybody's all excited cj toledano's wearing a new outfit it was just kind of time it would like calm down twitter for for a while where it'd be like this is what's on twitter for a while so it's safe to not get super bummed when i look at it i'll probably be seeing shit about them and we didn't have sports at that moment it was like it was sports yeah yeah that's the other thing we didn't have but yeah allison time for the old two three special it's as it is, a serpentine draft. Okay. So I'm going to piggyback on the Dogface 420 thing. And this is my actual conceptual pick

for this year, which is just TikTok. Like, I feel like before quarantine, it was a big like, oh, it's the app that all the kids use to do dance trends or whatever. We all got really bored.

I downloaded it right away. And it's incredible. Like, it is, I watched it more than, I'm a professional TV critic. I watch more TikTok than I did TV this year. And I just want to say, I know, you know, ByteDance is not the best company. And it takes all your information. They can have it. Because they, in exchange, they deliver an incredible product.

It is genuinely eerie the way, like, it will clearly scrape, like, your texts and stuff. Because when I started watching Bake Off, I started getting all these, like, Bake Off-related TikToks. And I did not, like, tell it to do that. It knows, like, locations. So it'll send you, like, L.A.-specific stuff. But also clearly knows I used to live in New York. So I get New York stuff. Like it's just so creative and relatively not toxic if you stay out of the like children who are constantly breaking quarantine part of it. Oh yeah. But

I just feel like this was the year where it became like a real mainstream thing and became like, I just feel like this was the year where it became like a real mainstream thing and became like I send it to my friends all the time and became like where a lot of memes come out of. So like you'll see them later on Twitter, but like they started on TikTok and just it really like became a giant fixture of my life this year. Whereas I was that before. We did stuff on the Late Late Show that was like where it was like, let's invite this TikTok person on and then bring them into TV. Like we did this like Thanksgiving musical thing with like Audra McDonald and God, I forget who else was in it.

All these like huge Broadway stars, Patti LuPone, Audra McDonald, like massive, I think Gad was in it, like massive Broadway stars. And it was because that the person who ended up doing the ratatouille musical earlier had done like a uh like just a tiktok where it was like a bunch of different people singing like at breakup at

a grocery store and we were like let's take that and put it on tv so like we informed our show with that kind of thing and brought like tiktok people do it. It was really amazing. I am not on TikTok at all. And it will probably be the end of me at some point. I mean, it's so easy. That's the thing is like when you start on Twitter or Instagram or like Reddit, like you need to assemble, like you need to figure out who to follow. You need to figure out like where the cool places are to go. And on TikTok, like i had two or three days of like the uh charlie de melio and like cute animal videos but once it starts like figuring out what you want or like you have someone tell you like four or five accounts to like follow listen it's creepy but like it delivers with the product i'm not a conspiracy i'm like yeah take my information i don't have anything

that i wouldn't just like how many stupid ass ads have you gotten where you're like, you clearly don't understand what I want at all. This is so dumb. Or like, I just bought this and you're advertising it back to me, but I don't need it because I just bought it. And then TikTok actually does manage to deliver stuff you want. I like it. I look at shoes all the time. And then sometimes I'll get ads for shoes and I go to the site and I'm like, oh, look at that. The cheap shoes I was looking for.

There they are. They're 20 bucks less than they were at fucking wherever at CCS. But also like I moved apartments in quarantine and I followed a bunch of, like I was saying before, furniture accounts on Instagram. And then all of a sudden I started getting these like very vibey TikToks of like cool looking living rooms where someone would just pan the camera in slow motion and play like the Animal Crossing theme. It probably looks a lot like my screen right now if we're talking about vibey living rooms, you know? Yeah, I have a vibey basement down here. But I just feel like it really like dominated this year

and like broke through to different like levels of the discourse where it really didn't before because we're all stuck inside. Yeah, TikTok was massive. Excellent. And your third pick? All right, guys, I'm going to do another TV pick.

I just, I need to talk about this with someone. Okay. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. We'll clear out. I don't think any of us watched it, but I've heard so much about it. Okay, I'm just going to lecture you people. So it's the first Real Housewives that's, like, new that they launched in

like, four years. And there are still, like, really good old Housewives, older Housewives franchises, like Potomac, people like a lot. But, like, it's Salt Lake City, so, like, obviously your first response is, why would you set a reality TV

show about rich people there it's all like mormons and it's not very glamorous so they clearly i've heard a rumor that they had to actually like recast and reshoot the season because it is actually really hard to find exciting personalities there but they found the weirdest collection of just the biggest, most like loud, kind of dark, eccentric reality TV types with like actually very interesting like representatives of like Mormon culture. And like there are these two women on there. Like my favorite one,

she's a divorced mother of three who like married basically Mormon royalty and then her marriage fell apart and she owns a business. And it's like, it's really hard to be basically an independent single mom. It's really hard to date. She is very open.

She'll openly be like, yeah, I've never been truly in love with someone. I did what I was supposed to do. And they balance that with people who will, the big fight of the premieres over six months ago, one of them told another one that she, quote, smelled like hospital, and that's the the big fight of the premieres over like six months ago one of them told another one that she quote smelled like hospital and that's like the first big fight that's how you rip someone up because they don't know what you mean exactly and the person who said that she smelled like

hospital is this woman who is the head of a pentecostal church who married her step grandfather because yes like again just it's too insane it's got that like she married her step step grandfather yes like he was married to her grandma i think he was like the much younger husband to her grandma and i think he somehow like owned the church and she wanted the church to stay in the family so she told her grandmother her granddaughter to marry her husband when she died like the the slack john look that all of you are giving me is like what it feels like to watch this show all the time like just something that insane happens every single minute it's just like they clearly were like, we, it's 2020. Like, we need to go big or go home.

Let's, like, figure out how to do this. And just, it makes me feel insane. It feels like 2020. Like, strong recommend. Fair. Holy cow. Step, that guy got in the whole family. Oh, and then you found out in the most recent episode

that her housekeeper is like her second cousin, is like her grandma's sister's daughter or brother's daughter, some sibling's daughter. And that person is like her live-in housekeeper. Again, dark energy, super weird. But like, it is a precious hour of my week and i have an entire group chat that is just built around live texting fantastic insane television show i grew up around a lot of mormons and that is a they're like step-grandpas marion i mean it's hard to i don't want to generalize

anyone like any group of people but the ones i grew up around a were like so nice and really wonderful people but and then the other part, A, were like so nice and really wonderful people. And then the other part of it, they definitely had their own community with their own drama. Even in the teenage levels where it was like, and the families that would rise and fall. All these mommy bloggers and family influencers are Mormon.

And I think the thing that they talk about, first of all, I think the Mormons are super nice thing is totally a cliche. And I think it's true. And I'm just going to say it because even though it's a stereotype, it's a nice one. But the other thing that they talk a lot about is like, there's a lot of emphasis on like perfectionism and fitting a certain mold, which like, I also think people don't realize that Mormons aren't just in Utah. It's like the entire Western United States has a lot of Mormon people in it. So I grew up in San Diego and there were definitely

a lot of Mormons who went to my high school. They all went to BYU. They all married their college sweetheart like immediately and all had kids really young and are all just very like,

you know, photogenic and post a lot about their like very idealized family life. And just it makes for a really interesting match with reality TV where like they're all like jaded disaffected ex-Mormons. The most devout Mormon on the show is a former Jew

who owns a tequila brand. Whoa. Yeah. Wow. Who calls herself the Queen of Sundance. Whoa. I'll give it to her. Shout out to Kelly Hayden though, a Mormon I went to high school with, who I was not good friends, but friends with, and who I always really loved,

who took his senior pictures in Jedi robes and had a lightsaber photoshopped in. Shout out to Kelly Hayden. That's sick. He was fucking rad. Oh, that's baller. A Mormon I knew from high school got proposed to when her now husband had an empty refrigerator in the snow and then she opened it and like the

inside of the refrigerator was decorated in photos and said will you marry me and that was like an early this is pre-instagram but that was like a preview of the like influencer insanity that was to follow i always remember that real housewives. Excellent. Sean, time for your third pick. Cardi B, Megan Thee Stallion, WAP. Oh. Yep. There's some hoes in this house. Had to go.

Okay, that was going to be my question. When I listen to it, and I haven't looked the lyrics up on purpose, it sounds like they're saying there's some whores in this house. They're not saying whores. That is the sample. It's whores. They're saying whores. Yeah, but it's chopped in a way so it sounds like hoes. It's just hilarious to me. But that sample is whores. I think it's a stand- it's chopped in a way so it sounds like hose it's just hilarious sample is

horse there's some i think it's a stand-up sample or something or it's it's vulture did a really good article about it i think it's like a house track that was i think in baltimore um again like you can look this up it's on vulture it's much more thorough than my bad paraphrase but it is like an older sample okay it's just hilarious to me. There's some horrors in this. Wait, can we talk about the quote unquote clean remix? Oh my God. I remember hearing it on the radio and I was like,

I don't know if wet and gushy sounds better. No, it does not. I don't know if that's less. It's like that old Pat Moswalt bit. Sounds way worse. Yeah, it's grosser. Again, going back to TikTok, there was like a dance trend and the clean remix that they had was not the official one

and it was way better. It's like, it just repeats the word wet like four times. And it just is like, yeah, you probably know what comes after that, but we don't have to say it. And instead of wet and gushy, which is nasty as hell. I yeah i just yeah i remember hearing wet i heard about the song on a podcast i know it's common common knowledge that there aren't any other podcasts but i i was in some alternate universe and i was yeah was it this must have been because i heard about the song and i was like what no because no the the people wouldn't say the name i think they were shying away from the name much

as i have so i went and looked it up and i was like yeah what is the name. I think they were shying away from the name, much as I have. So I went and looked it up, and I was like... Yeah, what is the name, Sean? What does that stand for? Wet Ass Pussy. I didn't think he was going to do it. Right, like, it's also not that dirty. It's just, like, describing a part of your body. Well, it depends on which part of it you emphasize.

If you say Wet Ass Pussy, that is a little dirtier. If you listen... so there's that next song from back in the day uh close and it was all about getting a boner the whole song all about boo you're dancing real close the whole song is about getting a boner that was on the radio all the lyrics and then wop comes out and everyone freaks out and you're like it's the same it's the same it's the equivalent to a boner but everyone's losing their shit and it just it's insane bleep out macaroni in the pot yeah that should have been also yeah you're right that's the most graphic description

yeah but that's so it's awesome yeah that's not an insult yeah it's like grab a hold of it fucking it's awesome i just i love every single part of it the video is dope everyone getting to like embrace it is so dope i just i'm i know we don't need me talking about how dope it is but it's anyway i feel like it's fantastic the video was great cardi b and megan the stallion are both so fun they're just fun man dude so fun and anyway they're both just like fucking the cartoonish they like control their own sexualization and do it

to this cartoonish level that's like so fun and Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion we just shot a thing with Megan Thee Stallion and she's so pleasant and wonderful just like a lovely person she had Hot Girl Summer and then she rolled it over into

having a pretty big 2020 i love me she had an even bigger year than hot girl summer it was fucking massive also she came off of a really difficult i love megan yeah yeah it was also worth it just to like trigger ben shapiro like the fact that he just totally told on himself and was like, when a woman's pussy is wet, that means she has a medical problem. I probably never encountered anything like that. I was like, yo, you say that outside the house.

It's like the fact that he didn't realize what it made him sound like to be like, my wife told me. That's how you know he's a dweeb. That guy's such a fucking nerd oh my god actually you shut up shut the fuck up why are you here i love it uh excellent pick yeah absolutely david time for your third pick oh my third pick is super personal but I think if you watched basketball, you'd be into it. I'm picking the 2020 Denver Nuggets. Sure.

Nice. What? Nah. What? Nah. Okay. Is this like a Blazers thing? Nobody's ever gone down from a, that's never happened in sports before.

It's a Blazers thing. It's fully a Blazers thing. That's all it is. It's a Blazers thing? No, I'm hating. No, my hating on you is a Blazers thing. I'm just hating on you because it's therezers thing i'm just hey i'm just hating on you because it's there yeah oh okay i was like whoa yeah the fact that they went down they went

from being down three and one twice that's amazing it was amazing and it was like so such a symbol of this year to me that like you know what i mean the the season was rushed you didn't even know if it was gonna happen right and then these guys who aren't that used to playing the but playing together but really coming into their own the murray and yokich friendship porter jr kind of going from being this like oh i don't know if we should have even done this to like really having having a say in what was going on i loved him the whole porter jr experience was amazing because he's like this young player who like almost like was like amazing in high school barely played in college because of an injury oh my back injury they say you can't even come back people say you can't come back

from that yeah and then came back and in his rookie year in the playoffs or near the playoffs started complaining about not getting the ball enough but then also kind of backed it up and then you have bowl bowl that team started five centers once. You're like, the Nuggets were crazy this year. It was nuts. And it was like young and it was chaos. And it was like barely held together, but they got through every time. You know what I mean?

And I think that's so much of like that energy for 2020 to me. You know what I mean? Just that, like they were on the ropes and then they came back and then they were on the ropes again and they came back and you're like, fucking hell yeah. I'm saying this from a place of like total ignorance and just repeating what all my coworkers have said around me. But it was really wild that like once the NBA came back, like all I heard from everyone was that the actual games and gameplay and like viewing experience were really good. And they were.

Yes. And I know that's like not necessarily true with like football and stuff, but it was really cool. actual games and gameplay and like viewing experience were really good and exciting. And I know that's like not necessarily true with like football and stuff, but it was really cool to see that they like not only made it work from an epidemiological perspective, but also like it was just a good basketball season. Yeah, it was, it was great. Very enjoyable.

I felt like I had more skin in the game than any basketball season before. Well, they're about to start the season again outside of the bubble and we're gonna see the nba sort of have its own version the nfl where they've had to cancel and move games yeah teams have like gotten you know insane like i know they were only able to do the bubble because it was mostly just the playoffs but like guys like we can't do that yeah they probably could have pushed the season back three more months and like vaccinated everyone too it's crazy but like yeah whatever whatever they're doing this season now so they can start next year season on time and get back to normal and that's really what this

whole thing is about like right although honestly you're right i bet they're all gonna get the vaccine in the next month like you know they're at the front of the line. They'll probably get it pretty early. I still don't know. I mean, we don't want to get too into the weeds on this, but I still just don't understand how the line works. When does someone figure out? I have like... Did you see at Stanford, they did it

with an algorithm and they totally fucked up because they did it based on age and location. And if you were a resident, you didn't have a set location because you like rotate around. But obviously that means most of the residents have been working on the front line and they got pushed to the back.

And like people who weren't even working with COVID patients were like ahead of them. And they like staged a mass protest and like took over the hospital and were like, fuck you, you need to vaccinate us. Yeah, I mean, they eventually were like, oh, we totally messed up. And like they acknowledged that it was bad. But like, yeah,, you need to vaccinate us. Yeah, I mean, they eventually were like, oh, we totally messed up and like they acknowledged that it was bad.

But like, yeah, the line apparently in some places is just like done by AI, which is not good. Well, the line- Well, whichever AI figured this out. Yeah. That's my mom getting it. Oh my God. Yeah.

That's so good. Saint Sue Carmel vaccinated. Does she like work outside the house? She's a labor and delivery nurse. Oh, well, yeah. That makes sense. I was told at a very young age how the line works, and I'll share it with you guys.

No cuts, no butts, no coconuts. As long as we all embrace those rules. No cuts, no butts, absolutely, and this is key, no coconuts. Follow those butts absolutely and this is key no coconuts and yeah you know follow those rules and you're all good yeah i honestly am also like i'm kind of weirded out by how like little urgency i personally feel because it's just like i'm not the one who

has a lot of you know stuff at risk i'm in my 20s or whatever and even just like walking around knowing that like everyone in a nursing home and everyone in a jail and everyone in a hospital is good would just like do so much for my mental health. I don't want to go back out in public. So give it to everybody else that wants to. This is great.

You know? Hell yeah. Digging it. The 2020 Denver Nuggets. Time for my third and fourth picks. God. As it is. As it it is i can't as it is i can't believe this got back to me i'm gonna take it i'm going three tv shows in a row which really kind of sums up what have we been doing the only real new content i there was other there was

i'll get into it later but like i'm taking ted lasso yeah dude everybody i haven't even started it it's amazing isn't it you you paused i didn't hear it i'm sorry my internet oh i'm taking Ted Lasso. Yeah, dude, everybody. I haven't even started it. It's amazing, isn't it? You paused. I didn't hear it. I'm sorry, my internet. Oh, I'm taking Ted Lasso. Oh, on Apple TV. On Apple TV.

Apple TV needs that, first of all. Needs it. Yeah. They have a World War II movie with Tom Hanks, and nobody talked about it. I heard a joke about it somewhere, about Tom Hanks and nobody talked about it i heard i heard a joke about it somewhere about tom hanks and his world war ii movies plural and i'm like what other one is there and then that's how i found out about it we're not gonna talk about it on here yeah i went to

the premiere of an apple tv show and i was like oh this whole thing's gonna fail yeah they have i'm not gonna mention it they have like a documentary that's really good they have some other yeah well they have a couple documentaries that's really good. They have some other. Yeah. Well, they have a couple documentaries that are really good. Yeah. And then the Beastie Boys, which probably nobody's going to talk about. And then there's this new animated thing that's getting really good reviews that they did.

Wild or Wolf something. But anyway, Ted Lasso. Sean just fucking stormed off. Yeah. He's fucking pissed. Did Sean even say I have to use the restroom or he hates midwestern midwestern nice people who just want to make everyone better ted lasso i'll talk about it it's weird because it's a show right up sean jordan's alley he's a

football coach who gets brought in by like a uh basically it's the major league idea like a soccer team owner who wants to tank the team but for a different reason for personal revenge reasons and jason sudeikis is so fucking funny and likable the show is so it's got such a big heart but while still being like incredibly funny um it's and like if you don't know anything about soccer you can still like get into it even though there's clearly a lot of stuff that's like for like real soccer heads yeah there's a scene where he does in an interview like the whole alan iverson practice thing or in a in none i think in either an interview or pep talk i forget what but he does the full yeah and nobody knows because they're all british so none of them know the island iverson thing it's so fucking funny it's probably the

most i've enjoyed something this year my like two cents that i'll just add on top of this is like i was really impressed so i caught up and i i knew like it was supposed to be like heartwarming and i knew it was about soccer but i was genuinely pleasantly surprised that they managed to have like two really good female characters who have like meaningful storylines that overset like overlap with the main action. But they come out and they're not just like, you know, one is sort of a wag character who becomes a really fun window to that world. And the other is this like glamorous older lady who owns the team but i was like genuinely shocked that it's a sports comedy that has like see without a lot of like visible sweat or effort just like has good female members of the ensemble and also becomes about divorce yeah it's about divorce and getting older they cover like some like you know feeling useless some like great topics in it it's a billy larry sean it's a Bill Lawrence production.

Yeah, I know that from, I listen, I'm talking about other, I do, I do know that from something I listen to. So yeah, I'm excited to watch it. I just fucking loved it. Have you seen Ted Lasso? Sean, you would, it's like somebody made a show for you.

When I had the stash, someone hit me and they're like, you look like Ted Lasso, Ted Lasso. And I was just like, oh, I need to, I need to watch it. That's like a compliment. Dude, I was stoked when someone said that because it's Jason Sudeikis, right?

That's Ted Lasso? That's right. I'll watch it. Absolutely. And it's based on fucking ads. Like it's a promo, like a one joke promo series they did for NBC Sports about like football and football. Ha ha ha.

And then they actually made an amazing show out of it. God, there was so much good stuff this year. I gotta get Apple. Yeah, you can have my password. You can have my password, Sean. My fourth pick, I gotta take Run the Jewels. I finally got there. Yeah. There's so much good shit this year, man. God,

there really was. I guess that's every year. But yeah, Run the Jewels. I fucking love that album i i thought i don't i maybe i didn't think i'm like is it ever gonna get old like because they keep making like kind of the same music it never does the fucking album starts off so hard with that yankee and the brave like starts off so hard and then ooh la la is such a good fucking track and then that one with like two chains on it it just like keeps hard and then ooh la la is such a good fucking track and then that one with like two chains on it it just like keeps hitting and then the one with uh pharrell and

zach de la rocha like it just keeps hitting over and over and over again killer mike and jamie are just like so fucking cool they're so different and they're so because lp didn't used to be an amazing rapper he was he's always been all right but like he didn't used to be an amazing rapper he was always been alright but like he didn't used to be great at it and he's you've seen him grow into his own as an actual rapper he's always been an amazing producer and they're so different that they complement each other

so well they're both so cool and they're actually nerds and they make fantastic music like they're just nerd all LP is just a fucking geek, man. Can I share my favorite Run the Jewels story that is not from this album cycle? So I saw them open for Lorde at the Staples Center. Wow.

Which means that both in front of and behind me were like literal children who were chaperoned by adults. And clearly have no idea what's going on. And like the music starts and you just hear LP go like, by adults and clearly have no idea what's going on. And like the music starts and you just hear LP go like, we're on the jewels and we're here to fuck shit up with like an audience of literal 12 year olds. And they just gave like really great, like cool dad energy where even though they were obviously like harder and louder and like maybe have more swear words

than the people who were there were expecting. It was still very like nurturing. And they were clearly so psyched to be there with Lorde and like were very there for her fans. And it was just like really cool. I also saw them at FYF a few years ago where they were very like do not fuck with like girls in the crowd. with like girls in the crowd like just they're very good at not only like being good dudes but also like making it seem very punk rock to like yeah cool and responsible they'll stop the show if they see like if they hear like that dudes are being like irresponsible in the crowd and stuff like that they're fucking rad that's what one of the bummers about i mean so many bummers i mean

live music especially but like they are so good live yeah and not to be able to tour off this like album which would have been such a good one to tour off of is like such a fucking bummer but they did some like virtual live shows that were fantastic they did that one on adult swim i don't know just i loved the album it was like my most listened to album of the year ooh la la was like one of my most listened to songs of the year i fucking loved it i would be remiss i i hope that didn't sound negative i did not mean to say that lp hasn't always been a great rapper what i meant to say is that it's been nice to see him come into his own as a rapper even more yeah very he's a great rapper but it's just nice to see him grow i hope that didn't sound negative because I love it. So anyway, I don't want to clear that up.

All right, David, time for your fourth pick. My fourth pick is the versus battles. Oh, yeah. That's such a good segue too. Yeah. I didn't even think of that. Good. Did you watch?

Did you watch the Bay one? Too short in E40? No, I was doing shit. I'm going to watch it today. I'm going to watch it today. Where can you find them? Are they on YouTube? They're on YouTube.

For me, Erykah Badu, Jillill scott nelly ludacris was great uh brandy and monica was fucking really yeah really great uh i love bounty killer and beanie man because the cops came t-pain and little john they were all there i mean there's so many of them are different for good i mean gucci and jeezy i loved oh that was great yeah it's just like but i love it i love it when the announcement comes out i love seeing artists campaign to try to get one i love all the jokes that come around because of them i just like every time one comes out it feels like just a big collective thing that's happening. You know what I mean? It's like something that's fun to tap into and see people predicting who's going to win the week before.

And then like I go back and I listen to all these albums like the week before. You know what I mean? Like I wouldn't have listened to Monica's first album this year if it wasn't for that versus. But I went back and listened to it. You know what I mean? The Rick Ross 2 Chainz one was my favorite of the year. That one was amazing. wasn't for that versus but i went back and listened to it you know what i mean the rick ross two chains one was my favorite of the year that one was amazing they have so many fucking hits yeah snoop dogg and dmx i mean come on oh snoop dogg and dmx was so good you forget how many hits that

everybody has i was going to bring up snoop and dmx because you can see them both appreciating each other too where they're looking they're like oh shit and you just see sno both appreciating each other too, where they're looking, they're like, oh shit. And you just see Snoop like, like that. Yeah. Like the range of like, obviously the Erica, Badu, Jill Scott one was the most like mutually supportive, but like the fact that.

Yeah. That one wasn't a competition really. Yeah. Yeah. With like the fact that it goes from that to like, I think these people are going to fight each other and like someone should intervene. The cheesy one was a little like, it was like,

yeah. What's going to happen? I mean, Gucci Mane, the songs he did were really distressing. and like someone should intervene the cheesy one was a little like it was like yeah i mean gucci main the songs he did were really distressing somebody died for that so that one was huge just like in general but like brandy and monica don't like each other it's like been known so like watch theirs and watch monica be like hella standoffish and brandy trying to like touch her and shit i love it i love it i love the comments too are like a whole other show like the comments are hilarious it's and it's like it's all it's it's like all of black celebrity is like in the comments like of those things like fucking pop everyone it'll be from like diddy to michelle obama will be like in the comments of like versus

talking about it and shit. Rihanna pops up in them. Rihanna's on them all the time. And then as soon as it's done to go to Twitter and see who thought who won. And although like, I feel like the wins are usually pretty unanimous. Like it's not that hard to tell. Yeah. Like,

but I don't know. It's just been like a really fun thing and a fun way to go back and listen to people's catalogs. And maybe I wasn't gonna this year. Yeah. Versus. Yeah. That's a great pick. a great pick yeah uh sean time for your fourth pick uh i'm gonna pick the j-lo shakira halftime show oh wow yeah it was great and it was before all that it was i was trying to think of something like what happened before everything kind of changed a little bit and that was really the only thing i could think of and it was just fantastic it was like a pretty nice fuck you

to the current political administration um and nice to see shakira pop up a little bit and nice to see j-lo still get it done i mean she's not like she ever lost it but it's just like show and prove uh it was great it was a really good it was great i was there i was on the field it was awesome oh man oh that's right jesus damn yeah it was fucking phenomenal it was everything it seemed like on tv right it was just perfect wasn't it it was better on tv because it's hard to see anything from the setting that she put in all that fucking work and still did not get the oscar nomination can still deduct at the Oscar nomination. Who? Like, yeah. Oscar? For Hustlers.

For Hustlers. J-Lo? Which she was, you know, she incorporated the moves into that routine. That's right. It was the end.

That was like why she did it, clearly. Like, she was doing a whole awards campaign. She was, that's right.

Whatever, she won anyway. That was so good. I never even put that together, of course. But yeah, that, I just, I loved it. that was so good i never put that together of course but yeah that i just i loved it it was a good halftime show you want a good one and it was it was great and it was before before all this shakira is such a good fucking dancer man she was so good yeah it's just nice to see that she's still like killing shit because i think she never fell off i'm like she's huge in the rest of the

world yeah yeah but just here yeah yeah so anyway i just wanted something from before everything kind of changed and that was really all the before times yeah yeah the before four saying the before times but you know something back when it was just like i was at a super bowl party with a shitload of people you have inspired me to actually slightly address my next pick i think oh cool well let's hear what that next pick, I think. Oh, cool. Well, let's hear what that next pick is. Okay, this is four and five for me, right? Yeah, and then five, we're doing a lightning round this year. Alright,

I gotta go out with a bang. So, speaking of things that happened in 2020 that we cannot believe happened in 2020, and I think this is maybe the last good thing that ever happened to anyone, but Parasite winning Best Picture was the coolest moment. Oh, shit, I forgot that was this year. the last good thing that ever happened to anyone, but parasite winning best picture. Oh yeah.

Oh shit. I forgot that was this year. Coolest moment. Well, it was, yeah, I think it was like January. Right. And it was just such a like amazing vindication,

but I feel like I should just take this moment to talk about, like, I love going to the movies. I love the like ritual of the movie theater. I think a really shitty thing about this year has been not only like that is probably the thing I of the movie theater i think early shitty thing about this year has been not only like that is probably the thing i miss the most but also it's been like really hard to keep up with stuff that comes out because you don't have that thing of like oh well it's playing in the theater and you're just like you're like i guess it's sort of on vod maybe but that doesn't

create any like urgency so like before i actually saw i saw first cow in a theater i saw never rarely sometimes always i saw emma i saw promising young woman and i was like great it's gonna be a great year for movies and that did not happen but like that moment of like an actually good and interesting and weird and like hard to process movie winning best picture was like incredible. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. It's fantastic.

And I miss. That was good. I miss movies so much. I'm right there with you. It's like when we can, that'll be the first thing. If like, if it was like tomorrow, everything's normal. What are you doing? I'm like, aside from going to see your mom or whatever, like I'm going to a movie.

Why are you going to see my mom, dude? Chill out. She's dope, man. She's dope. You know she's dope. Yeah, I mean, I kept being like, honestly, like it's good that California is being relatively strict because even if they reopened before it was fully safe, like I know my ass will be in a movie theater as soon as I am allowed to be. That is like the one thing. Oh, once I get that vaccine.

I might even bring the rest of me, you know? Not even mine. Just, you know know my ass and then the rest of me that's just like the one thing where i was like in the summer when we were like reopening way too early i was like none of this should be happening but also if the arc lights open i'm gonna go see tonic you know for my birthday my fiance there's a place in portland movie madness i think they have um a little like makeshift theater that they made. And you can rent it out for private screenings. And we watched The Great Outdoors for my birthday.

And it was perfect. I couldn't. I was just like, man, I miss this. You can bring in your own food. I don't think we ever got that in LA. I know a lot of people in New York who rented out theaters in Jersey and stuff. And I was like, I would do that if it were just me and someone else. Absolutely.

Yeah. But yeah, I whole the whole ritual that yeah malls get all of it anyway excellent allison your final pick and we'll do just say a couple things about it we'll do a lightning round okay well this is sort of another bigger thing so maybe we can break it down in more detail later but because in past years i picked picked the Bon Appetit Test Kitchen, and obviously that completely imploded this year. So I just wanted to talk about Sola El-Weili, the kind of breakout star who brought it all down because she was transparent about her pay

and then got her own awesome deal and has multiple shows at other outlets. And obviously we all were very focused on cooking and that had the weird side effect of like all these people in food media got canceled because there was so much attention on them. And she was like someone who not only I think did really good positive change at the place that she was coming from, but also like came out of that and and has a really awesome career on her own

where she's not being insanely underpaid. And that is cool. So, Sola. Sola El-Weili. Hell yeah. Shout out to Sola El-Weili. Sean, time for your final pick. Okay.

Let me know if this... I think it'll work, but I've been known to blow it. I'm going to call it Long Hair Don't Care. And I'm just picking everyone having long ass hair because they can't get haircuts. I don't think that's popular culture, br it long hair don't care and i'm just picking everyone having long ass hair because they can't get haircuts i don't think that's popular culture bruv you don't think so like celebrities with long hair like letting it or just like not maintenancing themselves letting their shit go gray i think quarantine hair is certainly celebrities well like i like

the quarantine look i guess like you know how people are just hopping on they're like i haven't been to the hairdresser in six months and I don't give a shit. I stopped dying my hair. I'm not putting makeup on all that stuff. Like, can that count? I mean, sweatpants. That's also. Well, I don't want to get like too broad.

I just I like the no maintenance thing that's going on right now with pop culture. Like, you know what I mean? With like celebrities have started doing it like Gal gadot having gray hair and like no makeup like i feel like it's a big movement of people just not doing all the stuff that they felt pressured to do their whole career because no one's doing it right now and it's liberating and i think it's fun i'm for it yeah sure i think it counts also just like yeah we're doing lightning right i won't tell the last one to try it i I didn't do it first. Yeah, that's true. That's true. You were respectful about it. You know what I mean? Just people looking like normal people, like celebrities looking like the rest of us because

they aren't going to get their haircut every other day and they don't look perfect and they shouldn't have to. Yeah, we had Conan's hair. We had like two months of that and then they they were like, I would pay someone a salary and benefits just to live in my backyard and cut my hair once every six months. Yeah, I just I like that. I like the freeing aspect of all this with people, the low pressure of self-maintenance, I guess.

All right, quarantine hair. David, your final pick. The concept of people going on horny on Maineine it was hilarious and then it was a bummer and then somehow it became hilarious again horny on maine's tight but then also a bummer sometimes yeah yeah horny on maine horny on maine uh i'm going to take a movie for my last one, a movie that came out on Netflix, and maybe not the one you think. I'm taking the 40-year-old version. I haven't seen that yet.

Oh, I haven't watched it yet. I haven't seen it either. It's so fucking good. The description looked really, it was really great. Made by this woman named Radha Blank. Yeah. And it's basically, yeah,

it's fucking about a woman who's like a playwright, who is like a hyped playwright. And maybe it's, you know, I turned 36 this year, so maybe it's as yeah it's fucking about a woman who's like a playwright who is like a hyped playwright and maybe it's i'm you know i turned 36 this year so maybe it's as i like interned to my like late 30s or whatever but like just about a woman who was like a very hyped up playwright in her early like 20s mid-20s and then never really hit the way that people thought and then her sort of like and and like getting hired by like the white theater establishment to like do stuff for them to like write or direct plays for them while trying to get her own play off the ground.

Wow. And while like getting interested in like rapping and like battle rapping and stuff like that, it's, and it's all in black and white, but it's just so fucking good. It was a netflix movie that like didn't look like a netflix movie or feel like a netflix movie um and i thought there was

some good netflix movies is it like autobiographical like based on her own experience i think it's somewhat autobiographical like it's like definitely informed by her experience but i don't think like it's not a one-for-one like biography um just it's just so good and like i i don't think like it's not a one for one like biography um just it's just so good and like I don't feel like it's gotten enough of a push this year it was maybe my favorite movie I watched this year it was just like really really good she is so charming and winning and funny in it um it's beautiful it's like a great New york movie too like i just really loved it and can't recommend it enough the 40 year old version i don't think they should have named it that i think that was a bad idea yeah it seemed gimmicky it's i think that's initially why i didn't want

to watch it yeah this seems yeah you don't want to define yourself by like another movie you know no it feels very not another teen movie which i liked yeah but a movie that has nothing to do with like not it's just a lyric in one of her raps she writes that's it but it has nothing to do with the 40 year old version um but it just it was really wonderful i loved it so that's my final pick and the final that's like what i'm using my holiday break for is i'm just doing like 2020 movie catch- so I did like Time, I did Dick Johnson is Dead and the last time I did the one where Mads Mikkelsen gets drunk all the time and that'll

be my next one. It was really fun. I love him. He's so great. So that was the final pick of the draft to recap Allison you went first you took The Bake Off, TikTok Real Housewives of Salt Lake Parasite winning best picture and Sola El-Wy's uh whole like

blowing up the bone to appetite test kitchens racist pay practices and then becoming a star in her own right sean you went second you took the tiger king the last dance wap j-lo and jakeira's halftime show and then quarantine hair david you went third you took animal crossing dog face 420 the 2020 Nuggets versus and going horny on Maine I went last and took the Crown the Mandalorian Ted Lasso run the jewels and the

40 year old version boy we left some good shit on the board I mean Mank for one which I really enjoyed I loved Mank Phoebe Bridgers I like saying Mank Mank Mank it's really fun to say I like saying Mank. Mank. Mank.

It's really fun to say. Oh, my God. I saw a tweet just recently that just said, Mank, I feel like a Herman, and it's the best. There are so many Mank puns, but that one was the best one. Mank, I loved the movie, too. I would recommend watching. I don't even know what it's about. It's about the writer of citizen kane yeah oh it was like an alcoholic and then also like citizen kane was inspired by william randolph

hearst so it becomes like a whole billionaires are bad and taking over politics i did not actually love mank the movie and i'm very kind of agnostic on fincher but like the meme culture around it was a1 great meme culture around it was A1. Great meme culture. And I really enjoyed the movie. I watched Citizen Kane and then that the next night. Fucking The Trial of Chicago 7, I also enjoyed. I'm not a very critical person when it comes to movies.

I liked it. I liked the actors in it. I had a good time. Taylor Swift had two albums this year. That was pretty good. The new Borat movie was another one where it's like the new Borat was so good AIM's new album was

really great and just they and they were on the new Taylor Swift too at least one of them the best song on the new one skateboarding has been has had a renaissance with a lot of people like because they don't have anything to do so like people are buying all like all these companies are like out of boards because everyone's buying a

skateboard that wouldn't have worked for a pick but you know just honorable mention i think if quarantine hair does skateboarding does yeah skateboarding does schitt's creek uh what we do in the shadows i may destroy you oh yeah i'm a roller skating teenage bounty hunters was really good the freddie gibbs alchemist album. Queen's Gambit. Palm Springs. There was so much good shit this year. Griselda's whole year. Yeah.

Yeah. The Euphoria holiday special. Oh, I haven't seen that. I'm excited I made it out unscathed. I didn't get ridiculed or beat up or anything. I'm pumped. This is my best pop culture draft. This is the best one I've done.

I think this year everyone's letting everything slide. My friend DM'd me on Instagram and was like, is it insane if I buy a $70 sweatshirt from a restaurant I've never been to? And I was like, no. Do whatever you want. Support the restaurant. Yeah. Exactly. I've been buying t-shirts,

cookbooks, and mugs from all my favorite Portland restaurants just to try to give them money. I'm going to go pick up a cookbook after this. That's my afternoon. Perfect. See? Well, we want to hear your picks. Hit us up at AllFantasyPod on Twitter, AllFantasyPodcast at gmail.com.

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it does. Yes, it absolutely does. God, that was so funny. It counts because everyone was immediately like, this is a sitcom joke. This belongs on so many shows.

And someone recreated four season total landscaping in VR chat, which is like a virtual reality chat room app. So they created that as a world you could visit and just hang out in virtual reality. And it's become a hotspot for furries online. That's amazing. I did not know that. That is a sentence.

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