All Fantasy Everything - 2025 Pop Culture (w/ Alison Herman)

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

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On today's episode, that's exactly what we're doing. drafting. Our guest today, a tradition like no other, Allison Herman is back. We need like a ha. Yeah, do I get my own sound? Sure. Yeah. What do you think it's going to be? Play jazz. Jazz. No. No. What do you want your sound to be? I mean, jazz does kind of like fit my whole vibe. It's like a coastal elite glasses wearing intellectual. That's right. Let's go with that. All right. Fantastic. Throw a little jazz in there. What kind of jazzian, Carvel?

Don't put me on this. Jazz enthusiasts. Some of your finest Utah jazz. Let me go, yeah. About like 311. So Lori Martin, is he right? 311? Yeah, absolutely.

I think they typify jazz. I think a little like West Coast. Okay. You know, like a little cool, maybe a little West Coast cool jazz. All right, yeah. For whom the belt holes, maybe? Maybe for whom the bell tolls?

What? That's not jazz. The Metallica song? Yeah. Actually, yeah. I'm down with that. Those songs, the problem with those songs, you go to the gym. There is a problem with those songs.

There's a fucking problem with those songs. All right. Keep it in your space. Hold my finger. I bring this out. You ever like, wrap your hand on my mind. You ever go halfway down the bed? I'll do this where I'll be like, see, this is where the middle of the bed is and your

pillow's just over on my side. I can't have that. That's what's happening over here. Hold my finger. That's a full nighttime beer. Hold my finger like Ariana Grande. You guys are my version of that country. They seem to be made,

it seems like maybe they're feuding now. No. Well, Cynthia did have to miss the Golden Globes to play Dracula or play like 37 different versions of Dracula. Right, she's doing one of the reason for missing the show, right? Yeah. Interesting. Draculia.

Draculia. Those Metallica songs are so long that you're at the gym like, yeah. And then four minutes later, you're like, all right, Now they're kind of like just sort of like blam-bramp-pump-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p it's not like as, it doesn't get you as pumped anymore. The pit's not moving. Everyone's kind of like, yeah. They're taking a breather between pit stomp. Looking at that dude, like, I'm going to beat the shit out of you in a second.

I'm your host, Ian Carmel. With me as always are my friends and comedians, Sean Jordan and David Bore. 2025, the year that was. Yeah. This is, if you're unacquainted, every single year, we do a fantasy draft with Alison Herman. to draft the pop culture from the year before. Such luminary picks as in eclipse have been taken. Who's that, that, did I pick like a senator?

Who was that Roy? You should take the clips this time. That's the clips, eclips. The Denver Nuggets winning the NBA championship have been taken. Oh yeah. Yeah, you and that senator on the horse. Story, I don't remember. I can't remember either.

At all, man. Wasn't Elon buying Twitter on there? I think that was probably in there. Yeah. And of course, your conventional pop culture, your, you're, your wicked, your aforementioned The crowns. The crime.

I got, I did all right, I think, this year. Before I had to do any Googling, I had a pretty solid list. I talked to you last night and you sounded confident. Yeah. I bet I did. I had some confidence on the plane. I wasn't going to bring it up. It was fine, but it just hit.

We were talking about this. I had a drink at the airport. Well, too, I had a beer and a whiskey. And I was like, boy. It's like. Was that like? You're the classic 10 a.m. Like, I'm in the airport.

Time isn't real. I can drink whatever. Okay. Which, by the way, I'm no stranger to the 10 a.m. Yeah. But this was five. Also, there's a secret bar in the Portland airport. Heard about this.

There's a speakeasy. Looks like a cleaning. It's a cleaning closet it looks like, and there's a little keypad. You put in 1977 star. And then you open it up. It's like a future. It's in Mercury. Oh, okay.

It's like a future bar. It's crazy. It's a secret bar. It's a pre-security. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Anyone can go.

Yeah. You don't even need a freaking plane ticket, bro. 1977? Why do you know why that's a significant? Blazers won the championship. God damn right. One and only time. Which I got Chris Pyn.

I got Nikki Glazer to say about Chris Pine in the Golden Globes. I should have guessed that was you. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think I literally was like, oh, Blazers. Like, I should text my Portland friends. And it didn't connect the dots to like one of the people I know from Portland.

It's in fact directly responsible for the show. She, we write, like, later on in the show When things start to get loopy, we like to have, like, funny intros I also wrote One of your next presenters is The Queen of Hip Hop and the other is Queen Latifah. Please welcome Dakota Fanning and Queen Latifah. That is you.

I did love... Did you also do... Was in the White Lotus, Weta White Jonas? That was pretty good. That was not me. That was not me. I forget who that was. Might have been... It's genuinely

the most joyous writer's room I've ever been in. Nikki Glazer's such a crazy hard worker and there were so many, I think I said this last year too, but like in a amount of talent in that room that makes you worry about the future of the industry. Just because you're like, why is everybody available?

Yeah, like Mike Lawrence was in there right? Mike Lawrence was in there. J.P. McDade? That's a tall last writer's room already. Tall, dude. I don't like that. I don't want tall guys to be better at stuff. J.P. McDade is like 6-7? you're six four I heard it's gone

I heard it's gone I saved it don't worry don't look over here but I think he did I have so many drinks it might be 6-8 I think if you're 6-7 you can't identify herself that way anymore

no you kind of can given what's happened to those two numbers it's gone right I mean sure we'll talk about it isn't it it's over right 6-7 yeah my nephew told me it was over

but that shit goes in ways did enough old people acknowledge it that like the mystique is gone I think that's what happened. Even Jimmy Fallon said we're not doing six, seven jokes anymore. So let that tell you what it. We talked about it. We talked about it too.

It's out. Yeah. It's out. Yeah, that's true. We're old. We're cool. We're not like, we're cool. But we're not 17 year old.

I don't think he was even 17. I think it's even younger than that. I think it was. Oh, no. It's like, children. Yeah. My 11 year old nephew is like, no, we don't do these.

Talk to me like such an idiot. Yeah. My little brother's not on it anymore. Now he's on low carcatchewy or whatever. I tried to say that to a bunch of other adults the other day. Dog! No! I go, I heard it.

I heard this and Shane's like, who the fuck told you that? I'm like, I heard it David's little brother. No, man, that was nuts. Stupid, I'm sorry. That was nuts. You got to stay inside with that. She's wearing a puffy vest and he looks all cool.

I'm like, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Shane Brendan? Yeah. I thought you said she Tornis. No, no, he was in a bubble goose? It's a Monclair, Bubba. We're staying at the same crib for the next three days. I got a knock to shy stay I wear with it sometimes, too.

He wakes up today. Sean, get in here. Just laying on the bed. Now, you have been a brother, a father, a man, a leader in your community for several years. This was the first year I was fully a father, a brother, a man leader in my community. And it's tough to stay on. It affects your ability to do ingest Pop-Cola. culture for sure.

I mean, I just watch, well, I don't want to say, but some of the stuff I, like, I just watched the other day just so I could pick it. You, I couldn't see any of these movies until I got the screeners for like award season. Because you can't go, it's really hard to go see movies. Yeah, I mean, once the daycare starts. I'm a bitch, a lot, I love her, a child and a mother. I saw a bunch of shit this thing. Had a great time.

We saw it after all of you. You're a sinner. You're a saint. You won't know. Yeah. Well, like, but also when we started recording, Sean was like, putting himself down being like, I don't know if I've seen it. I'm like, stop fishing for compliments, man.

Like, you're doing a great job. We're propping you up. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So you have confidence to go ahead. I appreciate it. Let's get right into it, shall we?

There's so much, there's so much meat on this phone. Let me check my email that I sent to myself. That's how I do it now. Hell yeah, dude. The way we would determine the, oh wait. Sean, Sean is Jordan. Not on Twitter anymore. Sean Cougarmel and Jordan on Instagram.

Sean on the, on the YouTube. What the hell is the... Shonda rhymes? Shonda... No, on... Don't tell. Don't tell! Don't tell.

I was up late last night. You know, I... Let me cut you off. Midnight. I'm very proud of this don't tell set that I did. So if you could find it in your heart... Yeah, you did kill it. Thank you.

To watch it, share it, whatever. I'd like it to get over 100,000 views. It's at 60 right now, which is great. I haven't even said it. That's a long way, dude. That's almost like... Jesus Christ. That's almost like 99,9,940 views you got to get still.

Got him. It's at 60. Got him. I like the math. I didn't see where I was going at first. I was like, I was like, how's he could make this funny?

Right for the globes made Ian fucking stupid. It sucked it all out. Nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine. I left it all in the basement. That's a qualify for the glove. Glenn, shut up. Glenn Powell was at the after party last night. Is that mouth bigger in person?

He's fucking gorgeous. He's rocking a mullet right now He still looks good Very impressive He's pulling kind of a wet look last night Yeah, dude Wet mullet Yeah

Wet mullet with like tinted shades I can't see it I just in my head I see mystique Yeah Yeah it's that It's that and he's blue and scaling Yeah Seth Rogan was there

Machine your boy Sean's boy Casey's own machine gun Kelly I thought he was from Cincinnati I think he is Oh I thought he was a KC guy I think he's an Ohio guy Yeah, I appreciate you from Cincinnati.

All right. Can't be my boy. Why Cat Williams was in the Wild Boy video. Yeah. The one with Waka Flaka? Yeah. Okay. When I'm Waka Flogga.

Watch his Don't Tell set. It's so funny. And he's got a long way to go. My computer's not starting. Please watch my Don't Tell comedy set and come to New Orleans in March. It's going to be what they call a blast. A lot of people, we call it June Orleans. Yeah, they do.

Yeah, they do. When I'm there. Over on Rumble. Over on. David Borey's here Cool Guy Jokes 87 On Instagram Where can people see you?

Oh, you know I'm doing it Don't Tell at the end of this month January 30th Hey San Diego Come to New Orleans I think I'm gonna make it

My Bachelor party Come on Because it's just like That'll give me two more That'll give me too more I'm just into the same thing I was talking to a lot She's like

She hasn't gotten the days off Yeah And then I was like Well there's a bunch of people Already going to be there And then I could just like now I only have to call two or three people you want to come to New Orleans this weekend.

I took my little brothers to Tokyo because they're my groomsmen, but they're too young. So it's like, yeah, I just do a little Bachelor party at Sports Drink weekend. Let us know. I met.

We'll be there anyway. Don't let us know. No, that's why it works out. So many of my friends are going to be there. It's like a 24-hour city. You're shit-faced. There's a bunch of good food. It's like, why am I trying to do some other thing?

It's like a city that's built for Bachelor parties, without being Scott Steele or Arizona. Exactly. Absolutely. And we have the little bit of structure of having to do some shows. So it just... It can't go too far off the rails. So it just, it won't be too nasty for him.

We have to be at a place at a time. Exactly. And that's enough to keep me on point a little bit. That's going to be great. That's a great idea. I think it's a good idea. And again, I think it does get us maybe like a day. Yeah.

I think for sure. Because like, when I heard that, I was like, well, I'm coming home Monday night. Yeah, that's what I'm going to shoot for. Laura, if you're watching, this is me asking. You know she's not watching. Of course she's not watching. No. Of course she's not watching.

Do any of your wives watch us on YouTube? That's crazy. No. I just, I walk in. Of course not. The general watch this, the whole show the Laura was on last week or whatever. They watched it in the living room and I'm like, this is insane. She was great.

Yeah, she was great. But his aunt told me she watches the other. other day, which made me uncomfortable. Because she didn't know the name. She was just like, I watch it. She was like, I watch a podcast on YouTube. The one cool guys. And I was like,

I just didn't, I could. I was like, okay. Which one is cool guys? That's your Instagram handle. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't want to ask about, and I didn't want to ask too deep to be like,

the one where we talk about poop or the one where we talk about black poop. Yeah. Like you don't think you're saying like there's no. If I had a guess just based on which of those two groups of people is cooler, I would probably say Langston Kerman. Well, no, but this is her aunt, Jana, who's older, older, older, old. Oh, and I am wearing a nice button down. I don't know.

If you're listening, Jana, love you. Oh, that's awesome. Alison Herman is a TV critic for variety. I am. Allison Herman is one of our dear friends. I would say a Bon Vivant, a raconteur. A raconteur. I'd say a Bon Marchet.

A Bon Marcia. A gourmet. Yes. An epicurian. Both. This is why you're a professional. Sean's Epicurean. I can lob spinooms all day, man.

Sean's an Epicurean. That's why you loved heated rivalry. Synonym S-Y-N-O-N-O-Rother. C-I-N-N-N-A-M. I wouldn't be able to spell cinnamon either. That's my favorite character. is a guy who doesn't know the difference between synonym and cinnamon. With us.

To a cinnamon, cinnamon is moly. Is that a moly though? He's world. What's a, what's a cinnamon? He's just asking people what he's brought in shit. Honey, what is a cinnamon for Trihard? That's cinnamon ominous. It's royal cinnamon.

Cine anonymous. How we're gonna get your year in pop culture What have you written about lately? You'd like to point people towards Anything good you'd eat in later? Well, I reviewed the latest season of industry That was airing while the Golden Globes were airing And I highly recommend it

So now that people have watched your jokes They can also watch this HBO drama I would also just like to say in my own personal year I got married this year That's right! So you know, that's fine. That's the big update. Celebratory jazz under that.

A little bit, yeah. Yeah, great. Phenomenal. Well, let's get right into it. If you haven't. Read what Allison write. Phenomenal writer. Phenomenal critic.

Thank you very much. We haven't got to do this in person in like five years. That's right. Well, we were talking about this. I feel like the last time we did this in person was in like Ian's living room in Glendale. Right. And it must have been like two weeks before everything shut down. I think it was 2019.

It must have been. Yeah. Jeez. We all have our futures ahead of us now. Hopefully that's not a harbinger. Why would you say that? That's a cinnamon for a bad thing. The way we determine the order of this draft is a rollicking game of rock.

Oh, wait, I'm Ian Carmel. Ian Carmel across platforms. Come see us in New Orleans. That's funny. What else? Does this come out on Thursday? On Thursday. So tonight.

Oh, come see us tonight. It's the Lyric Hyperion at 930. We're doing stand-up comedy at the Lyric Hyperion. It's going to be great. I brought 15 Shclackety hats that we can sell. I came on to Reddit for that. Yes, you did. I saw it.

I'm out. I'm out. I deleted it, but. Dipped in, dipped out. I deleted the app. I stay on there. I'm still there. I'm not against her.

I just some two, I don't, it's just another thing that I, that I didn't learn. Yeah. And I'm not ready to hop in. It makes me nuts. I got on there for stocks for a while.

And then I was just like, I just got so spun out so fast. I was like, oh, this is a power. I'm on there for jazz. fun facts and the all fantasy everything community. I love that. Travel planning.

Anytime, like enter location Reddit in Google. That's the way to do it. Oh, I ask specific questions too sometimes to Reddit if I'm like great like great restaurant recommendations and stuff. Yeah. So the way we determine this, uh, the order of this draft is a wrong game of rock paper scissors. Whoa. He can't flip the head off.

I could. Play between the three of you. And we throw on shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot Oh, David wins a paper against two scissors And the natural victory As the winner doesn't come upon you to determine the order of this draft But before you do that, I will remind you it is a serpentine draft

And what is that? That's a great question. It's like drizzling caramel on a macchiato. What a visual. Let's go. No? No. Can you hear the mic in your ears?

Yeah, it's crazy. Don't. I'm not going to do it again. It's directly in my ears. I know. That was fun. A bunch of people crashed their cars. That's the maddest I've ever seen you get.

I'm sorry I did that too. No, it's okay. He's getting over a head cold himself or something. What did you have? I think I was just tired, to be honest. Nice. I was just having. I thought I had fun for a year.

Turns out I was just really bored. I crashed super hard that night. I was like, oh my God. I kept waking up. I felt like shit. I think I was just exhausted. Wait a minute. What kind of material?

is that jacket. I was asking him about it too. It's sweet. Nice. Hell yeah. I think. I don't know. It's Italian.

I don't know. Great. That's a good podcasting. You look like one of the rich guys in cradle to the grave. I just watched Cradle to the Grave. I just watched Cradle to the grave. And you look like one of the rich guys in there.

What's Craddle to the grave? It's that old Jet Lee DMX movie. Is that the first time you've made a reference based on it since you've watched it? I've been sitting on that like hope. I hope someone comes up there reminds me a cradle of the grave. Did you watch it on the treadmill? Did you watch it? Livinger.

Laura was gone and it's on Tobey. I found it on Toby and I'm like, cradle to the grave. That's one of those ones I couldn't watch. Tubi is just a catalog of riches. Tube has me clocked. I looked at and I'm like boiler room, clockers, fucking tombstone, everything that I want. I'm like, Toobie knows what time it is for sure. Also a bunch of movies that are just like Kwan Mills covers come to life, which is also very fun.

Yeah. Are you guys familiar with Kwan Mills? No, but thank you for thinking we might be. It makes fake book covers. It's always like, let me. Well, they are truly like AI-generated, like, romance novels. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's funny.

I got both my homeboys pregnant. There's like a million, though. He's like, that is awesome. He's amazing. It's like Chuck Tingle. Do you know him? No, who's Chuck Tingle? Oh, my God.

Chuck Tingle, well, he called into Malaney's show a while ago, and like no one who was, who was like taking the call recognized him and I was like freaking out. But he, you know, he also made like fake romance novels, like, pounded in the butt by my own but classic. Okay, this is very, that guy. Very similar. Oh, yeah. Juan Mills is like, I got impregnated by a hood rat demon.

Yeah. Or my hood rat demon impregnated by baby daddy. It's very, it's so funny. But some of them are actually books. Shouted to Zach Fox. Bought Quinn Mills books. Really? He's like read a couple.

He's the only person who's actually read the book. Yeah, it's just Zach Fox. It's just Zach Fox. He reads them out loud and Ed shows sometimes. It's really funny. That's amazing. I am 10 chapters into a book. a book right now. Are you?

Oh, baby! I knew it. Happy to be wrong about my prediction. I got like 50 pages left. I might be done with it by Thursday. Don't be shy. What's the book? Top five. The high fidelity, like the making of high fidelity?

Nice. Fantastic. It's my favorite movie, so it's interesting. I still don't like reading, but it's very interesting. Are you liking it more as you go in? I am, yeah, a little bit. Nice. I find myself not being bummed out that I'm going to go read. Yeah.

I'm doing it at the end of the night. I did it last night because I was tore up. You just said you're about to read a book on a business trip. You're locked in. This is. You're in there. The growth, you know? It's actually my New Year's resolution this year was to like read at least like some of a book every day.

Like not get so caught up in like how much I read, but just be like even if it's a page accounts. Yep. Yeah. And I really like it so far. Yeah, that was my whole thing. I'm trying. I set a chapter a day and I'm trying to like work within my means because sometimes it is like

the other night I was like 1155 and I. and I just hadn't done it yet. And I'm freaking out. And I'm like, don't do that to yourself. Just like the good intention and then do it most of the time. You know? And it's working so far. I know we're 12 days in or whatever.

I'm three deep. I'm three deep in the year already. Two of them are pretty short. I don't know. Yeah. I'm reading like a tome right now. And it's so big that I like didn't bring it with me on a trip I just took. And it was actually great because it took me a while to get into it.

And then I was like out of town for a couple days. And I was like, man, I missed that book. Yeah. I'm excited to get back to it. So that was like a nice little. I banged out a bunch of quick ones because I want to read Lonesome Dove at some point this year. But I don't want to fall behind my- You got the rack up your number.

Yeah, I don't want to fall behind my 30 book goal. Watching that is a bummer. I can't imagine. How many pages? It's supposed to be great. It's like 830 pages. That's the thing. Yeah.

I started the year with like a 500-page book. I'm like 400 in now and I'm like, I do got to get some little ones to like. Yeah. Because I want to read, I want to read, I want to read, Alana got me crime and punishment. So I got to read that. Yeah. But because I just read the idiot. It wasn't like...

But you want to hit like a 200, 150, 150, some novellas. I also want to read the autobiography of Malcolm X. I bet that's a pretty big book. It's not little. Yeah. It's not a small book. I got once upon a time at Hollywood coming up next. Books.

Just one kind of pop culture that we're about to talk about for the next hour and a half. Books. David, what will you order of today's draft page? I'm just going to go to the couch. There it is. So you're in the middle, bud. Oh, hot corner. David Allison.

Ian, Sean, for those listening at home. Oh yeah, you can watch this on YouTube. Said that early. Got it earlier in the podcast this time. If you enjoy listening to it, why not? Watch us on YouTube. Or you can see what kind of hat Sean's wearing. Yeah.

It's a dope one. Don't tell them. I also recording in person makes the draft order a lot more intuitive. Yeah, absolutely. Instead of being like boxes on a Zoom screen. You're just physically in a row. I end up going to hurt a lot more. And everybody's boxes are different on Zoom.

That always pisses me off. Yeah, I hate that. Where I'm like, look at this guy. And everybody's like, that's a stupid joke. You're motioning off screen to them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, why are you pointing the writer's assistant? You're like, oh?

This is just fun. I can't hold your finger on Zoom, and I can hold your finger right here. I love it, dude. This is great. I like that you... Keep it the whole time. I like that you hold his finger like he's your father figure. He puts his tiny hands in yours.

Can I tell you the cutest thing that Maxine has ever said? Yeah. I told Dana last night because I was just DM about Artie. Hardy, holy buckets. What about him? She put that photo up? He is... He is perfect looking.

He looks like he's supposed to be singing in pictures. Does that make sense? He looks cherubic. That is the adjective I would. Another great word. What is that a cinnamon for? I don't. He just looks cute.

He just looks cute. Cherubic? Like a little cupid. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, like the fat babies with the arrows. Watch me use that tonight. Nice.

I can't wait to see how. Let me try to use it on Laura or Blair and don't laugh and don't laugh and see if they call me on it. traffic is terrific. No, okay, so Max had a tough time. They dropped me off at the airport, which is the first time they've ever done that, where she's in the car when I leave, like, at the door. So she was crying, and I was crying. I'm almost crying now.

And then I get into the airport. I'm like, is she good? And Laura's like, yeah, she said, Max said that she was sad and she wants two dads, so when you're gone, she'll have a dad around. And that made me start crying again. And Laura said, and actually, that leads into a conversation. but I've been walking their home. Laura goes,

I think we open up the marriage for Max's sake. I'm crying at the airport for a bunch of reasons. Max didn't say that shit. But then I guess, put her on the phone. There's a way he said,

you know, put her on the phone. Teacher out of tech. How many dads do you have? How many dads do you have? Max, this is your dad. This is the one. But then Max, Max, said that she felt bad that she wanted

she wanted me to have something pretty to look at like while I was in the airport or something like something shiny or something just just cute my friend's three year old was in like a big like not very like you know in a more mommy than a daddy phase and one of her classmates in pre-k had like lesbian parents

and the three-year-old was like wait you can have two moms why the fuck don't I have two mom we are fucking up in here because I'm like What's his two moms bullshit I'm hearing about? That's what I want. That's in play?

He does sing a lot. It's like he just looks like a song. It's like when you read like something old describing a painting. That's how I feel like looking at a picture of him. Thank you very much. You know what I mean? He's playing the ukulele now? What?

I believe it's not like Zoe Day Chanel, but like he's playing it. He'll like sit on the floor and go like, ring, ring, ring. Are you guys going to try to get him? like instrument trained early. I'm trying to get him into that Jason Maras Lane early. Yeah, get him up a door and out. Like, I'm a little hat.

Yeah. I think that's all you need. Having instruments and just music around? I'm giving it my bestest. He'll pick it up. Yeah, he's got, yeah. Jason Maraz. He's got two vaguely artistic parents.

He'll be good. That Irish lane, dude. I was writing a Jason Maras joke the other day, and then I was like, I don't even think this is funny. Who's this for it? Yeah, you know what I? Jason Razz is family.

People who frequented the CD section of Target in 2006. Yeah, like, what am I talking about? There are hundreds of us. And then I switched it to Jack Johnson and I was like, I still don't think this is going to go. Yeah. Who's the new that guy? Jack Johnson? Who's the new like.

Isn't Jack Johnson kind of back? Noah Kahan, I feel like it's kind of in that lane. Oh, Noah Khan. That's a good call. Yeah. I bet you like Noah Kahan. Oh, bro. I don't know who that is, man.

I have no idea. Do you not know about stick season? No. Speaking of Stick season, what? do you think he did rivalry is? I don't know. I have no idea. That was actually the second name.

Yeah, they could have been called six season, both ways. I mean, I thought it was like a sports reference or something about like a rivalry. I have no idea what it is. It kind of is. It's hot dudes, right? It's also a lot about missioning. I gleaned that it was hot guys from what you were talking about. Hot guys.

Big hot guys, right? Big hot guys. Canadian hot guys. Are we going to talk about it more in this episode? Oh, we for sure are. Then let's just get right into it. David, you have the first pick. and we're going to get to that first pick right after

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It just occurred to me that you guys did outlast Marin. Did you, like, dance on his grave a little bit? Absolutely. I ran into him. I ran into him at his... Not his literal grade. I went to the party. I went to the WTF like he had like a big closing party and I shoved him to the ground and I said, I remain.

I said I win. I remain. There's a Jewish joke in there somewhere. What is it? Ira Maine. The name Ira. Ira. Yeah.

It's like Gucci Maine. I should have the Jewish Gucci Man. There we go. I should have the joke if I'm going to do it, shouldn't I? Patented it. Ira Maine actually is my lawyer, so he'll patent it for me. He's got a Motsam ball tattooed on this man

He's got a Mazzabal tattooed on this man He's got a Mazzob Did they ever put Motsa balls in a cone It's like a fun little twist Not yet That'd be cool Carb on carb What would the cone be made out of?

What about Defilter fish in a Motsa cone There's a thought We'll talk Isaac added that out Yeah I'm cut He maimel I remain

You know I remade You know I remand David you have the first pick In the 2025 pop culture draft I'm going to take this. This was so weird to me because I can't think of a product that hit like this in my own personal life in the last few years. I'm taking a little boo-boo mania. Oh, yeah.

It just was like from children to adults. At one point, I knew like seven people actively trying to get them. Yeah. Like I just haven't seen that happen in a long time with anything like that. They're like Beanie Babyish. They're like little devils. They're like demon. rabbits.

Yeah. Right. And you clip them on a handbag. And yeah, like they're made by this Chinese company called Potmart. And there's a potmart store at the Glendale Gallery now. Yeah. Also the Century City Mall. Yes, there is.

Everywhere. Where we just got, I guess my niece, we got her, they got her one yesterday. So are the kids still into Laboooooooooo? Did that, it did not go away? It's still happening? I think it's still going. But I also knew grown women who were trying to get them so much so that my buddy who's like a guy who can get stuff and flip stuff.

Yeah. Got one for his wife and then flipped the other one. Yeah. Laboubas were going crazy. How big is a Labub? It's like what like that? It's like tiny. Okay. But they're also kind of collectible.

Like isn't it you can kind of pay like a normal amount of money and it's sort of like a random like you just get whatever in the mail and you can't really pick. And then there are specific ones. It's like Pokemon cards or something. There are specific ones that people will pay like thousands of dollars. You can do the blind box buy, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think even if you go to Pop Mart.

Yeah. Because they got her one yesterday at Pop Mart and everybody's excited because she got the one she wanted. I like that. I like that sometimes you don't know what you're getting. That's fun. It just seems crazy because I haven't seen anything like, like I haven't seen anything like that in a long time. When I was working on The Tonight Show, which I, a job I left, but I was on there for like nine months. It was like a reliable go-to punchline.

The Boo-boo? Yeah. For the entire time I was there. Like if you just said Labu, it's a very silly word. But if you put Labubu like into a pitch or into a joke, it would get picked and the audience would just like laugh at it. Because it was one of the few things that like sort of like monoculturally people would be like,

oh, I know what that is and I'm going to laugh, you know. I really it's also become a shorthand for like the kind of thing that just gets like randomly made ubiquitous by an algorithm. Like a lot of people like, oh, it's like matcha, Dubai chocolate, Laboooooo. Yeah. Like, you just string a bunch of those together. Yeah. And it's just like a joke on its own.

Yeah. Hey, remember all these things that like no one had heard of six months ago? It felt like it came out of nowhere. Yeah. And then like I saw over Christmas, Sam Talent got his niece like four of them. She went crazy. I bet.

It's like, but then like I know adult women who got them. Well, it's crazy because you'll see like very fashionable, chic women in like understated outfits. And then they look like they have like a possessed troll doll. just like append it to their handbook. A lot of had one for a while and it was crazy because we went to a gas station and these girls who worked at the gas station were explaining the difference between hers

and the fake ones. The Lafoufus. Yes. Yeah. It's like It was like, is that real? Yes. Not a joke. It's crazy. Sophia, like just like so many people I know just had a It's really, it was really wild I haven't felt like that

about a product. Probably sense Beanie Baby. Because Beanie Baby's also crossed age thresholds, right? You wouldn't like pin a Beanie Baby to your shirt, so it didn't become like a fashion accessory. Yeah, I feel like they were less, you couldn't see them out. You hadn't seen out in the wild like that. Also, apparently this dude

had been trying to grind away, whoever the dude came up with the Labibu's was, like he'd been trying to grind away at Labibu for like a decade. Whoa, that's beautiful. You know what I mean? It was like trying to come up with whatever the thing, and it finally popped, no pun intended. But like, the crazy thing is So he put the work in. You put the work in, but what

is that like? What is that like? You're like, I don't the teeth aren't fucked up. Just trying to tell your family. Like, it's going, it's going to work. Also, do they have backstories? I've never heard anybody. I think it's kind of like, Hello Kitty,

because, like, there is a Potmart theme park in China where there's, like, actual Laboooooooooo, like, you know, Disney character, you know how they, like, ensues talking around. That's awful.

Yeah, it's a little terrifying. It, like, just started as a theme park. Well, like, busy or something? No, I think it's, like, potmart's, like, a toy company. Oh, my got you know how, like San Rio,

the Hello Kitty, they're like, oh, they're characters and like you, there's like a theme park in Japan. I think pot Mart's like that and like Lubu Boo Boo is just the one of their toys that is like truly taken on a life of the town. Okay. Because even Hello Kitty, I don't like know the story. Oh, there is one. No, I know.

I just, I don't know it at all. Like, does she live by herself? Does she have roommates? She has a family. Oh, man. She has a family. She's married? No, she's like the kid in the family.

Man, my eight-year-old self would be killing this right now, but I have kind of repressed it now that I've heard. Who's that penguin she's friends with? There is a penguin. I don't like the way you put the pee on that. Because he cannot come home. You will not be seeing the penguin again. No, who's that penguin? That penguin does not come from a good family.

No, no. I'm nothing against penguins. It's that penguin. We had them over. eat all the matzo ball cones, it just seems like he's not eating at home. All right? He's dirty. Dirty penguin.

Uh-huh. But yeah, the LaBoo-Boo, the whole thing, it seemed like, I saw a bunch of people online being like recession indicator. And it's like, maybe, I don't know, but it seemed like. People throw a recession indicator on almost anything feels like. Yeah. Yeah. It's, yeah, I don't.

Windy today. Recession indicator. But the way people were going. and nuts about it was crazy because that's what made me think about it is I haven't seen a product where like a do like you hear about it with toys every now and again there'll be like a toy that comes around and everything like but I don't feel like you see it with adults as much as you see it with the Labubu's yeah it doesn't really span although I guess what like there were certain cups weren't there like weird cups like the Stanleys yeah the Stanleys and stuff like that but

that didn't pop like Laboo did we're all really like the blind leaving the blind here right yeah we're just like groping around in the dark being like I think it's this some kind of cup Alice in time for your first pick All right I was gonna pick something else first But we already tease this So I'm just gonna go ahead and say heated rivalry Okay

It also came out too late in the year for me to put it On my end of year list at variety But I feel like it definitely deserves to be acknowledged And now I will just explain what it is For Sean's benefit It's those big hot dudes, right? Yeah I mean that's really all you need to know

It's a lot of breath in the show Oh yeah So heavy heavy panting Hear some panting and some mouth sound. I mean, the sound artistry on the show, it really deserves a prize. But it is a Canadian show that is adapted from like these really popular romance novels that are about closeted gay hockey players. And it's called heated rivalry because the two players who are secretly fucking each other are rivals. And one is a Canadian.

It is a sports rivalry. It is a sports rivalry Between the Montreal Metros and the Boston I don't even remember They just come up with like fake names It's not really Yeah it's the New York Admirals

They come up with like fake names for all the teams Because they can't actually use the NHL Like in any given Sunday situation But it's incredible because you can tell the actual show Even though it is like incredibly well made By the guy who helped make Letterkenny and Shorzie Was clearly made with a budget of like maybe $5 It's six out of like maybe $5

It's six out of six hours episodes. They cannot show any of the actual hockey because they couldn't afford to actually, like, put people on the ice and, like, insure them probably. But it just was licensed by HBO Max, like, two weeks before it came out. Like, it was not like there's so there's no promotion because they didn't even know that they were like broadcasting the show in the United States. And then much like Labibos, it was every day. It went nuclear. The two guys are like, One of the two guys is American and he was literally like waiting tables at a restaurant in Culver City like eight months ago. And he is basically set for life now. As he should be because he's American, but he plays a Russian. And because the show is American, he's from Texas. And they shot the show in a month because it cost no money and was made in Canada. And he had 30 days to learn like convincing conversational Russian that.

I have heard is very good and there's a climactic scene in the show where he gives like a five page monologue. I hear there's a lot of climactic scenes in the show. We saw two episodes or two deep. A lot of climaxes. Is there, is they trusting?

Are they thrusting? Brother, they are doing it all. I have not personally seen an episode but everything I've heard is it gets... I can just YouTube the highlights. No, it's not. That's not YouTube. I was like, I was working on some shit.

it last night when it was on and I would look up every now and again and be like, I never even seen that. I'm going to watch it with Shane tonight. That's what I'm going to do. You guys are about to have your own heated rivalry. And that it's the kind of romance show where like the sex and like the kind of sex they are having in each scene is like very important to the story. Like the kind of sex they're having in the finale when their relationship has progressed is different from the kind of sex they're having in the premiere when they're having

like anonymous shower sex because they don't know each other's names yet. When that was crazy. He's just in the shower, staring at him like, it's, it's, it's like, it's why. It's like, it's intense. At the Globes last night, they were like, when they came out to, or when Nikki referenced them, like, it got a huge pop from a room full of, like, famous people. Everyone is watching this show. Like, at the Globes, it's not like there's like an audience.

It's just famous people and, like, producers and all that stuff. got like the biggest pop. Oh, like them and Julia Roberts, like up the biggest pop. Whoa. It's a phenomenon. Yeah. And truly like no one involved had any idea it was going to reach this level of scale. It's, it's insane, but it's like really well deserved and it's very cool to see like a very sexually frank, gay romance show like hit like this. I don't know. It definitely deserves acknowledgement. It totally came out of nowhere. I'm so happy for the actors and the creator. That's my first pick.

I'm going to mess around with it. You're going to check it out? Yeah. All right. That was a good sales pitch. Yeah, I'm stoked. I need to. I want new shows, you know?

There are also, there's like a very funny content ecosystem of like, there's a podcast called Empty Netters that's like straight dudes talking about hockey and they are so into this show. Really? And they are giving like literally blow by blow reams and being like, man, like he tosses underwear, but they didn't sniff it. Like, what's up with that? It's beautiful.

I love that the one guy is like kind of a, he's not a prude, but he's like very like reserved. And then the Russian guy's just like. Well, they have this very hot dynamic where one of them is like older and more experienced and bisexual. And the other one is like kind of closeted even to himself. And he's like really young. Like it's, it really creates like a story between the two of them that you. There's like a moment in episode five where I was like, I can't believe I have come to care about this so much. Yeah.

in a very compressed space of time. That's awesome. It's created by Jacob Tierney. Okay, I know who this is because he plays the announcer on Jersey. Yeah. That's, okay, I got to watch this now. He's like the king of Canadian TV. Yeah, it's amazing.

He's there. Oh, who's the Lamb Man got? Yeah, Taylor Sheridan, but the opposite of that. It's like the world created Taylor Sheridan and needed an equal and opposite to balance him out. And that's how we get Jacob Tierney. We need a yang. For my first pick, I'm going to go, it's not necessarily my favorite thing, but something I enjoyed a lot more than I thought I would, but I'm going to take K-pop Demon Hunters. Nice.

Still haven't watched it. The movie story of the year in a lot of, so good on, like, so big on Netflix that they put it into theaters. And then like it made like $30 million in like one week in the theaters just for like sing-along showings. Yep. I went in pretty skeptical. Not as skeptical as Sony was when they passed on the property. a movie they had. Get them.

But my wife was very excited about it. She's been working on some Netflix animated stuff. We sat down and watched it. I don't know anything about K-pop. I do have some experience with demons, but not a ton. But you're a hunter. I'm a big time hunter. You put on your camo to go to the theater.

I put on my real tree camo. Your orange vest. My orange safety vest. I always have real tree. It's always really treeed up. And then this sort of tiger camo. And I'm wearing sort of more of a. Rhode Island camouflage here myself.

But it was great. I had a great time watching the movie. I loved the songs. I thought it was funny. I thought it was fun. I loved the big cat character. I loved it. I loved K-pop Demon Hunters.

I assume you get the soundtrack with this pick, right? Oh, yeah. Because that's, I was going to pick the soundtrack. Soundtrack is crazy. You were going to pick the soundtrack. Yeah. I get the soundtrack. I'm sorry, you can't take it.

But I want to talk about it. One of my favorite songs right now is all in Korean. That's amazing. It's like the eighth song on there. I texted you the other day. One of my favorite songs is all, I have no idea what they're saying. It's a beautiful song.

Huntrix, the Saja Boys. Yeah, dude, Max, no. Max will say play the Saja Boys. Your idol is her favorite song right now. You know, that's a few year idol. And I'm like, this thing fucking goes. I did Halloween in Burbank, which is really dense with children.

And like the K-pop demon hunter's caught. It was like every third kid. So many purple ponytails in Atwater Village as well. Yeah. Damn, I got to get on this. It's, it's so. dope. I didn't, yeah, I was very pleasantly surprised. It was

a phenomenon. I really, and like, yeah, and the movie, like, again, I don't watch a ton of animated movies, and again, not a K-pop guy. It went in, I was like, thoroughly, when it was over, I was like, what a great time? I didn't even know this, what's the song that's on the radio? Golden. Golden is like, it was the biggest song in the year.

It's going to win an Oscar. It's going to win. It's crazy. I didn't realize that's part of it. I'm like, shit, this is like a K-pop demon, I had no idea. Golden will probably win the song Oscar, and K-pop Deval Hump were probably win the animated film Oscar. And when it came out, I made two bets with my wife that neither of those things would

happen. Before we watch it, I was like, a movie called K-pop Demon Hunters isn't going to win a fucking Academy Award. Then we watch it. And I was like, shit. It's, well, it's the same studio that did, like, the Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse movies. Oh, is that right? Yeah.

Because it's Sony. And so, like, the animation style is also, like, really incredible because it's those same people. Yeah. And it's funny. It's like a funny movie too. Yeah. It rules.

That soundtrack, though. Dang it. We play it in the car an hour a day. Every time she's in the car. Yeah. All she wants to hear. And we can't listen. Laura doesn't have Apple Car play.

So like I got the dope whip right now. No, dude. I got it. What about her other dad? What does Trent have? What does Trent have? Hey, Isaac, you're going to need to cut some of this out. I'm about to say some of this out.

stuff. K-pop demon hunters. That's my pick. Sean Jordan. I'm gonna go the Coldplay Kiss Camp. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I had that on my list too.

Insane. It was crazy. Watching that dude get busted. Just that because you know, like you know what that feeling would be like. You know, you can put yourself in that scenario and you're like, damn. Especially because if they just would have, if they wouldn't have been watching a kiss cam or if they just would have styled it out.

How would you know, they weren't the first ones on the kiss camp. Two seconds away from being like, that happened to me one time. Right? They were going around into other, they were like showing other people on the kiss camp and then it got to them. If he wouldn't have dove out of the way. How when you're philandering? You got to keep your cool, man. Yeah.

Keep you cool. When you're flandering. Keep your cool. B, if you're philandering and they're doing a kiss cam and it doesn't occur to you, like perhaps I should stop for landing, but for a moment. Uh-huh. I think he thought he was safe in that box. No, sir. He was like, surely they won't kiss cam the box.

Not me. I paid for this box. They're not going to kiss cam me in here. I'm a CEO. Like a preem. I've been exempted. Yeah. Kiss cam is for the lows.

I assume this also includes like all the fallout. So like, first of all, I got a video from the guy's daughter on TikTok like two days after that happened. Oh. Like, P-O-V, like your dad got busted. Everything's content. Yeah. And then like, yeah. Gwyneth Paltrow jumped on it and made an ad about it.

And that for like the company that they worked for. And then like now the cycle has been completed because she just got a New York Times profile where like she's photographed and like her face is half in shadow. And she's like very serious and not smiling. The woman who, uh, in the kids. Yes. Who has said that she was already separated from her spouse at the time that this happened. And you know, now she's like I, you know, it was an error judgment. I regret it.

But, you know, she was like, I just thought like it was really, you know, mean of Gwyneth Paltrow to do that. and it wasn't, you know, very supportive of other women. It's just the whole discourse cycle has lasted for months. Yeah. You were outside, Gene. Come on. I'm sorry.

That's the crazy thing to be like, how would I spin that? There's no way. Is there spinning it out of the way? You just got to take it on. You got to like take it in good cheer. I think the only way to do it is to. Or you have to hit him with the shaggy. It wasn't.

It wasn't. That was not me. That's all I can do. Yeah. I don't know. It wasn't me. Or you're just like, that's all we ever did. We never did.

We never did anything else. We just love yellow. We never. No, we didn't have sex. No. That's all we did. What was it? Was it in?

I was choking. What city was it in? Boston. It was in Boston. Of course it was in Boston. He was giving me a sensual. That's where you go. That's where you take your side piece to a cold play concert.

Just a bunch of dudes outside picketing cold play. He was giving me a sensual heimlich. All right? just to be clear. God, if you did. A lot of people don't know sexual heimlich, that's 70. We always talk about 69.

Sexual heimlich is 70. That's one level up. Season two of he had rivalries. Oh, that's tight. Yeah, the cold play kiss camp. He also immediately, Chris Martin, like, immediately, like when they did that, he was like, whoa.

Yep. Yeah. That is a weird thing, too, because he dives out of the way and you're like in the middle of a show you don't think about that No you're like oh busted You're a cold play guy?

Nah Laura's a cold play guy Yeah I can see you being a bit of a cold play guy Oh radio head was who you guys We're talking about going to see I'll go see it Yeah I said you'd go

Yeah I thought This is how much I'm not a cold play guy I thought that that's what we were I was like you're not a cold play guy I thought we were going to go see him It goes into my next pick though Can I go? Please?

I'm going to take the Oasis tour Bro. Yeah. That was... I'm glad you took it. Yeah. Well, I went. You went.

I know, but it was such a huge part of the other... I bought a jersey, bro. You cried, right? Oh, yeah. I was holding Shane crying. It was... It was amazing. You were crying because you saw that...

Sounds like Sunday. Sounds like Sunday night. They ran out of jerseys. Which city did you see them in? The Meadowlands went to New York to see him. It was... I didn't know they have a whole thing where they throw beers when they start, like, supersonic, I think, but I guess it's a thing where everybody just throws their beer

into the air. And it was like the... first or second song and I was like, this is, it was amazing. You were running around with an upside down umbrella? I got to make my money back on this trip. This got a beer bong that I snuck in. It was dope. I mean, I don't normally say that a show like can change, it just changes, but it was

moving. It really was to see 80,000 people in a good mood, no hostile. Even the, there was like a group of 10 assholes next to us and they were cool. And they were assholes. They were like fighting with each other And trying to push people But like it just didn't feel Like it would at a different show

It just felt like yeah They're trying to like open a little pit Like that kind of? Yeah they were just ruckasy Like some Boston dudes looking to get it There's like some Jersey guys But didn't Didn't bother me like it normally would

Normally that would infuriate me And I'm like ah get it Go get it I'm sure there's other guys That want to fight a little bit What did Shane wear To the Oasis? What did Shane? He was naked

They let him in Right yeah Yeah Big boy He had his They're waiting for security. They're like, we can tell you don't have anything on you.

Thank you. Thank you. Liam Gallagher came out and goes. He gets a pass, bro. He's good. He'd get in. Nah. Isaac cut all that.

You cut me trying to be Liam Galler. No, that stays in. Shane had one big eyebrow. That's what he had on. Very nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just amazing. What's your favorite Oasis song?

It's tough because like Wonderwall's amazing. Yeah. I really like, don't look back in anger. That's the one. Mm-hmm. Yeah. They're all like, they're all really good.

That was because Laura, my wife, she's like, you know, I don't, I didn't think you were an oasis person. I'm like, well, none of us thought you were an oasis person. Everybody. I thought everybody was. I really did. I feel like you put it on. Everyone's like a four songs by Oasis person. That's what I am.

Yeah, that's me too. There's probably like two years where I listened to almost exclusively Oasis. That's crazy. Almost exclusively Oasis? Like, I could probably say when it was like probably 2007, 2006 and, it was. It was probably 2006 and 7. You were working at that bar? Paper planes by MIA is playing and you're like, none of that.

Pretty much. I was listening to that a lot. Yeah, me too. That's 2007. I thought that song made me be smart. I have people. Like, I'm so culture. I have people in the whip like, I bet you've never heard this.

What do you know about Sri Lanka? It's a third world democracy. No funny business. Yeah. Oasis tour. Almost exclusively for two years? Yeah, probably. Wow.

When I got their albums, I didn't get their albums when they came out. Yeah. Like I was high school, the 90s late 90s? You were probably maybe even middle school because I was like elementary school. Yeah. Wonderwall came out. I remember because I just started skateboarding when Wonderwall came out. But somebody burned me there.

Started to shred. I swat. Get my sister. I know that because I saw that video of Utah. My name's Cheyenne. I've been shredding for about seven months now. That seems I've been rapping for 17 years. I still got to put that up on the Patreon

I keep forgetting. You do got it. They got to see it. I'll put it up. But yeah, Oasis. I love it. I'm excited to go see your radio head if that happens. You would look good dressed like an Oasis guy, like a big stone island jacket.

I think I really think you would. What's that? Is that like the Parkas? That's like one of their parkas. Yeah. Parkas. Man, two good picks. Yeah.

I did good. Yeah, you did great. Oh yeah. You've never done bad. I appreciate that. Thank you. I'm going to go one more monoculture thing that I really, I mean, semi-moniculture. that I really enjoyed this year

before I get into more of my like, these are my favorite picks just for me. But I'm going to take SNL 50 and everything that happened around it. Less so the SNL 50 episode itself, although that was also really, like I enjoyed watching it. There's some really funny sketches on it.

Great to see. Anytime you get to see anywhere if you do sketch comedy, you're happy. Yeah. But the documentaries that happened around it too, like the music one, with that like long musical montage of everything that happened on SNL, on SNL, like, musically, that they, like, kind of, like,

mashed together into this, like, eight-minute piece was one of the coolest things, like, I've ever seen. Yeah. It was amazing. So, just, like, everything that happened around SNL-50, it was so cool. There's still such a mystique and, like, magic that SNL has, like, such a hole that it has, that, like, very few things, you know, like, the Tonight Show, you know, it's gone from host to host to host. now it doesn't really

It doesn't really mean anything Like in the same way Ebbing a lot Not a lot of flow More eb than flow You know like And so many things in our culture That like are still around

Like 60 minutes You know what I mean It doesn't really mean anything SNL Even as it swapped casts Still has this magic And when they like Start calling back in

Like the veterans and everything Yeah It's like holy shit This is like an amazing thing And everyone's down to Everybody wants to do it Yeah Every celebrity is like

Of course. Of course I'll come on. Yeah. Well, apparently it was like a huge political thing of like who actually gets to be in 8H. Like who's in the overflow room? Yeah. Yeah. That was looking at the audience in SNL 50, that was nuts.

We're like, holy cow. Crazy. Like legit famous people just they're chilling. You're like, it's funny too because you're like, Ricky Lindholm's in the room. It's like, oh, because she's like Fred Armis. You know, and Fred Armis said, of course he's in the room. So it's like, yeah, it's just really funny the way. And there's something about like certain people couldn't get in.

Wasn't there like I think about that? I can't really remember. They were like cast members who were like, well, of course, I'll be a number. Heavy Chase. Yeah. Yeah, I like reviewed. They like made a like a quartet of sort of like mini documentaries. So they made like almost an hour of television about the story behind more cowbell.

Yes. Yeah. Like they were, you know. Two hours more I say. Yeah. You know, they didn't milk it a little bit. But I mean, it really like Lauren Michaels was just like a singular figure in the culture. Yeah.

And he is very clearly going out feet first. Yeah. And more power to him. The Lorne book, I'll tie into this too, which came out this year, which was, like, great. I really like it. I'll probably read it. I'm in, though. I did the audiobook, just full disclosure.

There's a lot of, you read it. Huh? I was, you know, I know he doesn't read it, but it would be really funny if Lorne Michael's read the audio book. And then I discovered Jimmy. There's a lot of, like, Lorne early life. that like at some point you're like, all right, you're like,

you're swothers brothers, great. But like, the stuff that's like on the scene of like S&L is so fun. And it's like gets in depth. It's like, Leslie Jones was not happy.

And they're like getting into it. You know, it's like a really, it's fun. If you like showbiz behind the scene and stuff. Um, but yeah, I just love anytime they hit a big anniversary and like 75,

you know, the next big one or even 60, like a lot of these people are going to be dead. You know, like, or unavailable to show up and like, you know, like be meaningful.

presences. But this time, so many of them were there. It was... Really nuts. It was just sick. And the music one, again, your mileage may vary on some of those, like, mini-docs, but the music one I thought was great. I like the Cal Bell one. I think there was the last seasons, didn't they do one about those? They did one where, it was like everyone's audition

tapes, which was really fun. Yeah, that one was fucking great. It's the last seasons like the Robert Downing Jr., Julia Louis Dreyfus. It's not that one. It's is it like the first one after Lauren came back? Yeah, that might have been it. It's the first one after he came back.

I don't even know. But that's also crazy. It's like when the show started he was ahead, you know, he led it for five years and then he left and someone else did it. And like that could have just been it where there were just a bunch of different people who did it. And then he came back and it's like, no, this is Lauren's show and it's going to go on

for like half a century. Yeah. Who do you think is going to take it over when Lauren leaves? Everyone keeps saying Tina or Seth. And I feel like both of those people have enough else going on. I could see, with no, like, inside of knowledge at all. I could see Seth maybe doing it.

I feel like it'd be like, you know, how, like, co-CEOs are, like, the big trend now? Yeah. Like, I feel like it'll be, like, Seth. And then, like, oh, my God. Lindsay shook us, the woman Ben Affleck dated who's, like, the big talent booker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I could see, like, that maybe being like, okay, you just both, like, co-run the show now. I think that's probably something like that.

Or, what's his fifth? The guy who's the announcer on The Tonight Show, who his kid was on SNL. Or one of the writers. Higgins? Higgins. That guy's a big part of but maybe he'll leave when Lauren leaves too.

Who knows? But yeah, I think Tina there's like, she has so much going on. And why would you want to go take one of the most difficult jobs in show business? Yeah, it's kind of got to be

your only thing. Yeah. Anyway, that's my pick. And now it is time for Allison's second pick. All right. My second pick is the pit. Ah!

Because real television is back. We're doing 15. episode seasons. We're doing cast for you don't know anybody and the locations don't change

and the costumes don't change so we can still make it in L.A. on the Warner Brothers lot. Yeah, it's the show that is like the biggest star on and is Noah Wiley who was on ER and the producing team

is also ER veterans and the Michael Crichton State is currently suing because they say it's an unauthorized reboot. Yeah. Really? Yeah.

I mean, because they did start to, it sounds like they started developing it as like Noah Wiley is his ER character and it's just like a different setup and then they took it in a different direction and now they're and obviously now it's a huge hit so now everyone's fighting over it but um yeah it's just amazing that like Noah Wiley is the most famous person on the cast everyone else is just like totally new brand new they create such a dense world immediately and I feel like I know all of these people and all of their relations

and also the patients because it's like a real-time 24-style show. And so it means like you don't just have patients who are there for like two scenes and then you never see them again. They're like series regulars. Like, you know, you show up and you see them in the waiting room and they're very big on like talking about health care as it really works. So like you might see them as basically an extra for like five episodes while they're waiting to get in and then they finally show up and you find out what's wrong with them.

And it's just incredibly well done. And season one came out last January. and season two is currently airing because they turned it around so fast. That is so nice. That's cool. It's awesome. I don't want to say the names of other shows

because like two of them happened this last year. But like, and then they're like, and in three years, we'll be back with another. We can name it. We could say severance took three years. Severance took three years.

Everyone can look at a calendar and see, yeah. But I do it just in case anyone's going to pay. And there's another one where they're like, oh, people like, you like you like that? Three years from that. Fuck, man. Come on. They're not like rookie franchise.

I didn't know the pit was going to hit when it went when the new episodes the other day. I'm like, no. Hell yeah. I was talking with one of the writers. I can't watch the pit because I can't do medical stuff because it like it just like gives me such bad anxiety. But Dana watches it and she's like, she's like, this is the best show I've seen. It's with a kid. It is one of the hardest things I've ever watched. They also, they built the set before they wrote the show. Because they like, we're like, we need to physically know the architecture of how people are flowing through the space and where characters are in relation to each other and like where this room is

and where this other room is and where they do this and where they take phone calls and where the ambulances come in. Wow. Because it's like they needed to do that to like coordinate this enormous ensemble. And it feels like part of, you know, like we're sort of like reinventing, you know,

basic TV from first principles of like, who knew people like it when their shows come back once a year? Yeah. I was talking to somebody in the writer's room last night and that like we were talking about how they said like one of the reasons people love podcasts so much is that like it comes out every week on the same day and people develop a relationship with it

which is like something people used to do with television. Totally. You know 24 episodes of a show. Every Thursday at 8, I know this is going to come out. Once a week. Once a week and I can sit down with it and enjoy it and people do love that kind of routine. Remember Thursdays.

Parks and Rec, the office, like one of those four, that four show block are like TGIF back in the day. And even though it's like on streaming, they drop it like not just like on Thursday where it's like, oh, it's online at midnight and you can just watch it whenever, like on Netflix. It's like they drop it on Thursdays at 7 p.m. Eastern. And I see people watch it like the second it comes out.

Fun. Same thing with Game of Thrones. That would come out of like 8 o'clock on a Sunday and you're like, I'm home. I'm going to watch it when it comes out. It's fun. God damn it. And they make it like while they do like that old school network TV thing of like they're producing it like while it is coming out. So like I got this.

happened last season too, but like I got the screeners for the new season and they gave me as much as they could, but they're like, yeah, they're not done making it. So like, we're going to give you basically like a little more than half the season, but like the other episodes don't exist yet because they're still cranking it out in the water. Pretty red. That's great. Love it. Have you seen the second season yet? It like just got out, right? Yeah. I have seen nine episodes and there's going to be 15 and yeah, it's like one a week. Like they're not even doing the thing where they start with three just to like get you into it. And even like watching the first season, like I reviewed it. I was like, this is pretty good. But like so much stuff comes out these days where it just kind of like disappears.

Yeah. And watching like, you know, the first four or five weeks I saw people being like, this is pretty good. And then like the huge thing, like the mass shooting happens in season one. And it just went crazy. Like I saw people be like, this is incredible. And like it happened over months because that's how long it took to come out. It was amazing. That's awesome. I really wish. I hope there's another show that's like that. That's not medical. I mean, I think everyone's kind of looking at that and being like, hmm. Like, maybe.

Yeah. It's like a dentist. I'm like a dentist. Yeah. I would stress me out too, though. There's everybody's show about a dentist. There's no dialogue because everyone's mouth is just open the whole time. What's about a dentist besides like the whole nine yards?

Huh? What's about a dentist besides the whole nine yards? I don't, I mean, little shop a horse a little bit. It's an open lane. Come on, guys. I want to give the spit a little more credit. Thank you very much. I'm on fire, dude.

That's all admit it. Let's all admit it. We're on fire for a week. This spit. That was a good joke, bud. Thank you, Sean Gordon. Thank you. If you want more good jokes, you can watch his Don't Tell Set.

Come on. There we go. Only need. And if you want even better jokes than that, my special. That. 99,940 more views. David, it's time for your second and third view hits. This one.

Bix. I don't know why that got me so much. This one, it felt like it happened to me and my friends. Okay. Yeah. Kimmel going on. Yeah. Was just like.

I mean, it did happen to our friends. Yeah. Yeah. I remember the guy. I called. He didn't say Troy. Troy. Yeah.

I called Troy that day. Like, what the fuck's going on? Are you okay? Yeah. It was just. It felt like a new time. It felt like, oh, we're in a new time. Yeah.

Like, it was just, like, the pace of it, it was just so crazy to me. That whole debacle. Was Colbert this year, too? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So we'll just put, we'll make this, like, the late night. Yeah, we'll put it together.

It just feels like the game is completely different. And it's, like, weird because it, like, affected late night, which you're like, oh, this is already, maybe this thing that's on its way out. But then, like, when that happened, I realized the size of it still. I mean, multiple things are happening at the same time. late night is dying. And like these are these are like, when these animals were healthy,

you could not take them down. You know what I mean? Because they were like such profit leaders for and so reliable and like dependent for these networks. And I mean like in the 90s, you know what I mean? Like in the early 2000s. So then part of it like with Colbert and everything.

Like it was costing the network so much money. Yeah. That you're like if you give them like, I'm still I'm still not convinced it was complete like politics is the main reason Colbert got canceled. It didn't feel like it. I mean, I'm sure it's like a two birds one stone thing. Yeah. It's like it's expensive.

We don't have, you know, it maybe doesn't make sense to keep it or keep it around for the next five years and this will probably help in this. But yeah, I feel like the Kimmel thing, first of all, I was out of the country when it happened. Which like, really added like another weird element. Like I would just

wake up in the morning and be like, what just Yeah. That's like a nutty thing to hear though, right? Yeah. It must have been Because you're out of America and then like the most American thing possible. Yeah. And then it ended up being this like weirdly hopeful. Like it was the first time it was like, oh, they overplayed their hand. Yeah.

Like this didn't work. This cause way more bad. Fucking Ted Cruz is like, I don't know about this guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was a home canceling my Hulu and my Disney. Like I was like everybody else like texting my mom like, this is how you do it because you want it.

You know what I like? Yeah. We were all like. It was. It felt like. Back. Yeah. It was just, but, and that's what I mean about the size of it.

It is dying, but it's like the size of it is still there in a way that maybe, because I feel like, especially being back in L.A., people talk about it like it's dead. It's not, you know what I mean? It's not dead. It's not dead. It's just not what it was. It's in secular decline. Yeah.

Fair, fair, fair, fair, fair. People, it's still, like, I mean, it, like, everything late night does well. Now other places do it, if not better, but like, faster. Like, we used to be like monologue like, okay, I want to see people joke about what happened today. Now you can just look at like any social media thing. Yeah, some Twitch, Twitch reaction. Literally the same people who are writing the jokes for the late night shows tweeting other jokes about it. You know what I mean?

Like that day. You want like celebrity access, which used to be such a hard thing to get, you know. Now every celebrity is their own brand. You know what I mean? Like if you wanted to see The Rock, it used to be going to watch Leno. And now it's all those like hot ones, track star, like all those. a little gimmicky. Right.

All the new press runs. Subway takes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All of which like, good for all those people. Fantastic. But like, you know, a late night show, it's 200 jobs, 150 jobs.

Subway takes probably three dudes. Yeah. My friend Kevin Porter, like last night when there was the podcast award, was like, they should just call this award the award for the best non-union talk show. Yeah. Because that's kind of what these are. Like good hang with Amy Poller. Great podcast.

but like that's filling the same It's a talk show. Absolutely. It really is. And it's fucking fully non-union. Yeah. Well, one of the producers is

The ringer, the original is. But yeah, but yeah, there's not like a podcast to get it's not unionized the way that TV writing is unionized.

It's true. Which took us like a long time and a lot of blood sweat and tears to like get that shit across the gold line. Let's un unize it, dude. Huh?

Let's spearhead it. We don't want to. I got some stuff. We don't want to... He's a kid at home. Never mind, let's not. But yeah, that I think... We'll fire you on the spot, dude.

You even try. If I ever see you talking to even one other person involved in podcasting, edit this out, by the way. Can I good cop? I love you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go to Wee Spa. But be aware, we're both cops.

Do you guys want to go to Wee Spa? Huh? You got to be naked the whole time? No. You don't have to be naked floor and you wear like, they have like, spa issue shorts and t-shirts. Me and Alana just went. It's so fun. It's amazing.

But I did run into a friend in the naked part. I'll be on the naked floor if you want to find me. Here's the thing about the naked floor. You'll be naked on the floor. That's a different to show. It's not that. It's just like, I think it's because I went to the bathhouse in Japan. So now I'm open to it. Yeah.

But it's not like crazy. You just go in a hot tub. You put a towel on until you get to the toilet. Yeah. It's totally fine. Yeah. You can put a towel on until you get to the. edge of the tub, you go in there.

He's like the fitness. It's like to be naked around other people. It's very dark. It's super dark. And then they, but like, but like the, the co-ed floor with all the, all the rooms. Is the men's naked part of We Spot dark? Because the women's is not. It's just like a normal fully lit room where you're all just in a hot tub.

Really? But I will say it's, you know, it's really nice to like, I've gone with a friend and had like really deep conversations there because like you're literally naked. Yeah, you might as well. It bummed me out being, because I went to. to Japan and me and my brothers went to a bathhouse, but it was like with my brothers. So it was like a really fun bonding experience. Went to We Spa with my wife were separate in the bottom.

So then I was just like in a super hot tub by myself but naked. That was not as fun. You're down there like where's my wife naked? Yeah, that was not as fun. But when we went upstairs to the co-ed part, really. Did you lie down in the pebbles? Yes. That was my favorite room.

That was my favorite room. I like that. I liked the ice room. The salt room, I was kind of like, this isn't for me. But, like, yeah, that was my favorite room was the Pebbles room. But yeah, we got dinner. Ran into Steve Feinards. Very nice.

You do dinner there? Yeah, they got food. I mean, they have a restaurant, like, on the floor where they have all the rooms. They have, like, a kid's play area. They have a restaurant. Are you, like, in the sauna? And they run in there and put a couple of, like, bow next to you. And they're like, sorry.

No, you get, like, the light up disc thing where you, like, put down a number. They're dropping in the hot tub, pull it out real quick. And you're like, oh, I got to go the restaurant. Pardon me? It's like, it's so fun. I got, because I got my wife a 10, 10 entrance pass. And I'm like, I want to do it like, I want to go late night now. Yeah.

I want to do it. I want to go at like, yeah, they're open 24 hours a day. I would like to go at like midnight. Because the way you sleep when you come home too. Oh, yeah. I love a schvitz. Yeah. Oh, you love a schvitz.

I'm saying we could go to Wee spot. We don't even have to do the naked part. What's a schvitz? It's like a sauna. Sweating. It's Jewish We Spa. Yeah. I think, by the way, I do want to say,

Hoi Spa. I do want to say, Wee Spa isn't special. This is just a standard Korean spot. That's what I heard too. All Korean spas do this exact same thing. It's talking shit about WeeSpot. Or they're all special, you know? Sure, sure, sure, sure.

I want to go to that one on Olympic that has the driving range. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything's naked to me. There's one on Beverly that is a natural hot spring. What? Like, the water in it is. naturally he did. Oh, that's what I want to go to. Let's have a Korean spa night. I would love to. Can we get recording a quick? I can't wait. Next time, next time she goes out of town,

I'm going to hit it at like 1 a.m. I want to go so, because it's just like the level, and I was hitting, I had all the rooms a couple times. Now you got to do a lap. Yeah, that's what I did. I started at the hot, hot one, and then went all the way to the ice and then double back. Hold on. Did he just blow it? No. Why is it the wicking hour? John Wick. I tried to work in a John Wick joker. It's 1 a.m. Yeah. Like the witching hour. Why is that the jock?

But that's already the witching hour. Why is it the wicking hour? The wicking hour, because John Wick goes to the spa in the John Wick movies. My man. I just wanted to understand. I tried to shoot horn a John Wick joke in earlier. Yeah. Was that again early?

Was that earlier? Like, no, like three minutes ago. Oh. I didn't hear it. Oh, I didn't hear it. So I was like, I can get away with this. You're too into the spa talk. Yeah.

I just want to point. Isaac is wearing Adida socks with Adida shoes. I am. That's a little commitment. Unlike somebody's wearing new balance pants With etneys I'm having a gear crisis I confided in my friends earlier

And I said that these are new balance pants And I'm okay with that I betrayed you You can wear new balance pants With etneys or adidas or whatever you want to do I'm wearing Nike on Nike man And I got a sweatsuit I'm totally matching

I couldn't have Adidas pants But yes I'm yeah I'm having a gear crisis Thanks a lot Should play the song? Underneath this, self-lighted. Play some, play some atonal jazz under this. Yeah. Throw some Cecil Taylor on.

It's a reckoning. My turn. My turn again? Yeah. I'm going to stay in the world of comedy. However you feel about it, I got to take the Riyadh comedy festival. Sure. Oh, my God.

Just like as a, also, have I ever showed you guys this? I had an insider. No. You're a Rion Comedy? I know somebody who went. Very funny that they had merch at all. The person I know who was there, it was like not a comedian,

it's a whole other thing. It's a Riyadh Comedy Festival keychain. But I was like, you should get some of that merch and put on goat. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Probably flipped that for crazy.

Yeah. Good call. I didn't know they had, this is the first time ever seeing that or hearing. Like, nobody had any merge from it. Well, people weren't really wanting

flag that they did. No, and there's a lot of people who did it who we, they said all the headliners. I found out a lot of people. There was also a whole crew of openers. We also know people that turned it down. Yeah, I feel like I'm the only person here

who's able to just say whatever I think about three odd comedy festival. I mean, it's like, it's however you feel about it. I wouldn't have done it, but I also was not asked. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I don't want to be one of those people who wasn't asked you. It was like, but it was just,

just the point of it was really crazy. It was crazy to see people take sides on it. It was crazy to see people use it as a platform to advance themselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In speaking out against it, it was just like, I don't think anything has split everybody up that heavy. Even Austin, I don't feel like split everybody as heavy as that did. It's tricky.

There's an amount of money they put out there where if you have a family, it's a little bit where you're like, I get that some people are going to take the money. I think the people I judged the most were the people who, A, pretended to be stupid and not understand the difference between, like, playing in a country that has a shitty government

and taking money directly from the shitty government. I'm like, you know what that is. And, like, you just got to own it and that's fine. Yeah. Or the people who pretended that they were, like, advancing the cause of free speech. Those things killed me so much. That was the tough one for me where it's like,

oh, so you're just, you're saying exactly what they wanted you to. They're like, you can actually say moral. over here, then you came back in the U.S. Okay, Louis C.K. Is that right? That's the point. Is that right? But it was just crazy, the fallout of it in our world personally.

Yeah, it was interesting. Yeah, there's not been anything, I don't think, like, comedy feels so divided now, the deeper I get into my career. Yeah. And this was like, it was one of the last kind of mono things that's happened. Like, when was the last time something happened that was so ubiquitous in comedy that everybody was talking about? Like, it's been a while.

It was also like anytime variety covered it, it would be like the top story of the day. Like people who had nothing to do with comedy were very invested in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just a really, it was just really major. It was just really, really big. Standup tends to be this like battleground that like where bigger issues happen in, whether it's like Saudi Arabia in general or like when it's free speech or like, can you make a rape joke like and all that stuff.

But like I think part of it because comedians are so accessible and also so sensitive and very rarely have like PR. are unless you're one of like the top 10 or 15 like shells around them so like people like often you know are also like deeply approval seeking people yeah so like you can get reactions out of them it was it's tricky like I think like both those things you said are 100% right I agree with you like 100% of both of those things it was especially embarrassing the way people like tried to justify it like part of it's just like hey man just say you it was an amount of money you couldn't turn I would rather have heard that I would because

I know at least for the people who were opening, it was. Yes. There are people who are like, look, nobody's, especially these days. There are people like, we're talking. I'm not, our shit is not going away, but is quickly changing in a way that a lot of people don't have a way to keep up with. A lot of people don't know how they're going to straight up feed their families. And people are like, they offered me amount of money that you get anymore.

I go, what would be the exception? after a low amount and she's like, I don't know, $40. She's like $40,000. She's like $40,000. Everyone's getting that. Like, there were people, there were people that were doing like 15-minute sets that got like 60 grand. Yeah. Yeah.

Those are the people. I can't say the names. But, like, some of those I didn't get asked either. So I don't really have to have an opinion. No, and it's like so easy to be like whatever when you didn't. I bet like a lot of lines of work feel like this. But it's like, in comedy, you, like, there's so few, like, steady gigs. Like, weirdly.

this podcast is like the steadiest gig we've ever, any of us have ever have. To your point about like stand up being a battleground for other issues, like there are lots of other struggling industries, including show business for at large, not just comedy, that are taking tons of money from Middle Eastern countries like sovereign wealth funds

that maybe don't have the best human rights record. And like, because those corporations are not individual people that you can stick a microphone in front of and be like, why did you do this? You don't talk about it as much. Right, right. All right, am I up next? Something got cut.

me a third pick. Anyways, we love Dave Chappelle. For my third pick, I'm going to go with Marty Supreme. Oh, I still haven't seen it. Me either. What? I know. I know I will love it.

This year. I know this is like my... It's the most Jewie movie. It is ever Jews. She said that. She said that. She said it. Actually, to directly quote

Timothy Chalmay in the movie, I'm Jewish. I can say that. You will find out the context for that later. I can't wait. Timothy Jalemite, one of our great Jews. One of our most Elevan Jews. And, like, really getting to play a Jew for, I mean, he isn't, call me by your name, too, but. I will watch it this week.

It's just, like, it was one of those things that didn't happen. Then we got our streamers. And then I was, like, in the room until, like, 11 p.m. on the globes for, like, a week and a half. Do you have a screener? I have all those screeners. I don't have a DVD. I know we just said it's, like, really hard for you to see a theater.

But, like, that is a movie that's worth seeing it. Like, watching that movie in a theater feels like you were strapped into a rock. I would love to. If it's still airing anywhere, I'll try to. Probably pre-Osses. It's totally in the theaters right now. I mean, Sean, I'm going to go see it tonight. Are you? Do you want to go see it? If it's late enough? I don't really actually, I thought I had a call after this. Yeah. I don't have anything to do after five.

I got to do, I got to be a family man between like four and nine, but eight. I'd be down to see it late. I'd be down to see it. We'll talk. We'll talk. It's beautiful. But I have loved the Safty Brothers movies for a long time. they tend to make a very specifically stressful kind of movie about a terrible guy. But it's great watching it because the guy is terrible. I don't actually find their movies that stressful because the guy is so terrible that I'm like, I don't care what happened. Like I'm just watching.

I have no investment in the outcome here. Yeah. Which makes it like very fun. They don't stress you out? I mean, like they do a little bit, but not. I feel like especially in the Robert Pattinson one, there's a moment where you figure out. That was the most stressful movie I've ever seen. But the moment in good times.

where you realize that it's not Benny Safdi's character who he's dragged out of the hospital. I felt this like huge exhale. I'm like, okay, he's not like taking a mentally disabled person and subjecting them to his bullshit. It's just like an insane guy who's being like hoisted by his own pitar.

And Marty Supreme is like Josh and Benny Safdi have creatively separated. Benny Safty made a movie about a boxer played by Dwayne Johnson that has you know, it's interesting and is also not very like in the Safty mode and then Josh Safty made this movie and you can tell it's the most expensive movie he's ever made.

My favorite thing about it is that he hired this production designer named Jack Fisk who is married to Sissy's Basic and did like killers of the flower moon and the revenant. Like if you want like a lived in old period piece, you go to this guy and so you get the Josh Safty like one Otricks point never score in the 80s songs and the like creative casting that he's known for. But he gets like the money and the talent to create a like

note perfect replication of 1950s lower east side. Yeah. And then there's all this stuff in it about Japan that I wasn't expecting. It's just... I was listening to him talk about that

this morning. Yeah. Yeah. Because I like, I'm excited to see it because the other Softie Brothers movie didn't go crazy more.

I respects it were trying something new. It was a smashing machine. I saw it. I saw it. I saw it. I saw it. I saw it.

And I saw the rock in the Q&A afterwards. Whoa. Wait, did you see it in the DGA theater? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was not, I didn't like it. But like Marty Supreme, you know, this is a positive podcast. Yeah, we're saying the highlights.

But I thought Marty Supreme was just Timothy Shalame, who was like a native New Yorker. Yeah, yeah. And Jewish, getting to play like a super New Yorkie guy. And like the ping pong of it all was actually fascinating because it's sort of based on a real person and Gwyneth Paltrow comes back you know off the bleachers after you know making a multi-million dollar business

and just absolutely knocks it out of the park you're like I've missed this person on my screen. I do miss Gwen Paltrow yeah and she's playing a movie star in the movie so it's kind of this meta thing but also you get Odessa Zion who is such a revelation and it's such a star making

performance and it's just like it is a version of a story they've told before, but at the scale, and it's making money. Like, Middle America's going nuts for Timmy Salamane. Is that right? People are going to see it? Yeah. It's not like the biggest hit that's ever been a hit, but for what it is, it's

making a lot of money. That's amazing. That's awesome. Also that jacket. Big Jack. Well, oh, and the fucking press tour. Yeah, the whole press tour is big crazy. He was on top of the sphere.

Yeah. He went to the top of the sphere. He's going to win an Oscar. He won the Globe last night. Yeah. It's interesting. there's been some, like, discourse over, like, is he being too, like, out of pocket and in your face of the promo? Is that going to turn Oscar voters off? And I'm like, well, when you see the movie, you understand, like, that is the most accurate possible advertisement you could make for this guy who's just an asshole who's obsessed with greatness and doesn't know how to turn it off.

It's all of a piece, right? Yeah. Like, it's very much him, like, incorporating the character into his persona. And do you remember last year when he won that award? I think it was the Sags. And he gets up and on stage and he's like, I'm. I want to be one of the greats. I want to be Michael Jordan. I want to be Viola Davis. You watch the movie and you're like, oh, he was just like still in character. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fully in Marty Mouser Mode.

He was just like writing that way. And now you can kind of see him in a war. Like his speech last night was very like, I'm so grateful to be here. Like, thank you. It was very sweet. Very cool. Yeah. You can see him kind of shifting into like I'm a nice young man.

Yeah. But I love that movie so much. It's just like the complete package. It's kind of everything I want out of going to. theater. I'm going to see it this week. Guarantee it. Me too.

You guys both text me and you see it. It's so good. I'm excited to see. I'm excited to see. It's not you. Don't text that one. I want to go. No.

Yeah, I was thinking about going when I get back home. I can go. We'll figure it out. I can go whenever. It was our family Christmas movie too. That's great. That's perfect.

You know, a bunch of Jews in Glendale on Christmas Day. Eat bag rolls watching ping pong. We did go straight from there to eating Mapo tofu. It's true. It was honestly like, there's no better day. Got him. We're going to get to my third pick right after. Another croissant mandated break.

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rules and restrictions may apply. Welcome back to All Fantasy everything. Isaac still can't get his computer started. It's crazy. Yeah. I tried safe mode. I tried resetting the whatever

to NV-R-M, whatever. Did you blow in the ports? It sounds like a Dell commercial over there. Blowing the ports. Did you try plugging it in and then plugging it out? You got to plug it out. Pour water on it.

Dang it. Bang it. Bang it. Like, fuck it. If you tried to bop it, twist it. Isaac. Work it, dip it, flip it and ride. That B-O-T-Y-Y-O-M-I.

Time for my third pick. We are comedians. That doesn't mean we work blue. Work-class. None of us work blue. I don't work blue. We don't work blue. I get blue sometimes.

Just dirty. Time for my third pick. With my third pick, I'm going to take my favorite thing I watched all year. But don't tell set? John's Don't Tell Set. Did that come out in a 24-25? No, I keep going.

shit next year. I'm going to take Death by Lightning on Netflix. Nice. Nice. It was personal, like, Mike Mekowski who created it is like a friend of Dana and I's. Uh, that aside. It fucking ripped. It was like, it's, it's, it's

about. James Garfield. James Garfield. And it's like, it does rip. It's so. It's so good. It's so good. It's like four episodes. Four episodes. Uh, what's his face plays James Grant. Michael Shannon. Michael Shannon plays...

He's locked the fuck in. He's locked, but he's like nice. It's like nice Michael Shannon. That sounds disorienting. Also, just disclosure, a weird quirk of my job at varieties. There are two TV critics. Yeah.

I have seen some stuff that like two other people on Earth have laid eyes on. And then I just won't see like really big important stuff that happened to be assigned to my colleague. So I've heard this show is great, but I haven't watched it yet. It rips so hard. It is disorienting. Because you have like this decent, wonderful Michael Shannon. And at first you're like, he's going to snap at some point. And then you just like fall into it.

Nick Offerman is playing. Nick Offerman's going crazy too. Nick Offerman is so good on it. He's playing, God, what is it? I forget his name. The guy from New York. Yeah. Matthew McFadden's in it too, right?

Yes. And he is, it's like, in my opinion, and I'm a dumb guy. You're not at all. I'm not, but I'm not like, anyway. Hold his finger If you're gonna do it, do it It's Matthew McFadians In my best performance

I think it's better than I think it's better than Succession It is so Better than Pride and Prejudice Out there with Pride and Prejudice I don't know who he is Which one is he in Succession? He's uh

Tom Wamskans He's the guy who married in The man who wins Succession Yeah The titular successor Yeah he's Succession By the end of it He plays Succession

I like this He plays this He's awesome. Everybody went crazy. It's, it was, I didn't even know about it. Because I think I watched it like the day it came out. Yeah. And I hadn't really heard anything.

I just happened to watch it now. I was like, what the fuck? Chester A. Arthur. Chester A. Arthur is who Nick Arbor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it one of those things that's like sort of anachronistic and like either the music or the editing style? There's a couple music drops in it that are a little, I think, anachronistic. I think like some, there's some electric guitar.

But it doesn't take you out of it in any way. It's not like. It's not like peekie blinders or something. No. Or, you know, it's not, I guess I haven't seen Heda, but like, Heda looks like a little, Bridgetton. Bridgetin. Yeah.

It's, it's, uh, no, it's like faithful. And like, he went to Prague to shoot it and everything. So it looks very like, I mean, they shoot everything over there, but it looks very like, of that time and everything. It's just great. It's perfect. I mean, again, I'm a dad now, but it's perfect like dad TV. But I also think it's just good for everybody.

The performances are crazy. I was, like, kind of shocked. It wasn't nominated for, like, miniseries at the, Globes or anything like that. Hopefully the Emmys like it a little more. I was shocked. I didn't feel like a lot of people were talking about it when he came out either.

Yeah. Or maybe, but also my algorithm is so fucked. But like, even I didn't feel like my friends were talking about it or anything. I didn't know, we haven't talked about it.

No. I didn't know you watched it. It was like my favorite thing I watched like that. It was so good. It was just so goddamn good. Nick Offerman is like so funny and good in it. And Michael Shannon is so good. And Matthew McFadion is like,

plays this like, I don't know. A man coming apart, but like... Coming apart, but like wanting, like, status and approval so much, but not, like, being good enough and, like, lying and cheating his way to... And it's obviously the true story of James Garfield's assassination. Just great.

It's just so good. It's, like, my strongest recommendation from the stuff I saw last year that maybe not everyone saw. Yeah, it was really great. It was really, really great. Sean Jordan, time for your third and fourth picks. I'm going to go TV again. I'll go see White Lotus.

Oh. Hell yeah. Fantastic. I am a big defender of season three, so thank you for that. Do people not like it? The consensus is, I think it was still huge, but I think the consensus is that it's like the weakest of the three. And it definitely got some of the backlash of like now it's the biggest thing on earth. Some people are like, oh, I don't know.

But it's great. Yeah, I thought it was amazing. I thought it was fantastic. That opening song is like the second song on my Spotify playlist. Sean's a big hand job guy. Yeah. Big incest guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I love Parker Posey. Yeah. I love Laura as a plane. Leslie Bibb killed it. Carrie Coon. I love Carrie Coon. Yeah. The girl with Black Pink did amazing.

She's not even an actor. Walton Gaggins. Walton Goggins, fucking fantastic. That what? I feel. For my fellow Carrie Coon heads out there. I don't think it's going to get picked, but while we're talking about White Lotus, are you going to talk about the other Carrie Coon show at all?

Gildedge? Yildedge. It was on my top, it was on Variety's best TV shows of 2025. It was one of only two shows, along with the pit that both me and the, other critic pick. It got so good this year. It's so good. So good?

Yeah. It really like took off this year. The previous seasons were just kind of like, oh, so like the big episode here is what like wallpaper they're picking. Then this year it fucking heated up. But it like, it like, it like, it like, burns, Gilman Angel, really good. Yeah. But it like, it like retains that appeal while also like actually having stakes.

Yeah. But yeah. Carrie Coon, the White Lotus, incredible. Oritz an Eggers kid. Eric. Yeah, he was great. Jason Isaac. I'd suck if people didn't like it.

He really wanted everyone to know. He's like, I'm not just doing a Southern accent. I'm doing Durham, North Carolina. Very specific. Yeah. You better appreciate that. Somebody who seems like he donates directly to like NC State and several Republicans. Who's the guy Jason Isaac?

Jason Isaac. Yeah. Lucious Malfoy. Dana's biggest crush. He was on the Patriot. He was a bad guy in the Patriot. Is that right? Oh, yeah.

And a babe. Another tuby hit for you? A little tuby back here. He caught me. That's probably if I hit the right button. Is this weird to say? He seems to me like a giant man. I think he is.

Yeah. Like in everything he's, I just always am like, that guy seems weird. Yeah, yeah. I loved it. And he was like yoked and light loaded. Yeah, just looking like an SEC dead.

Yeah, exactly that. Michelle Monaghan, probably one of my biggest celebrity crushes, Michelle Monaghan. Gary Coon's one of mine. Good choice. Yeah. Yep, I really enjoy. I really enjoy.

I don't know if you're going to come up later, but I see. One of my biggest celebrity crush is having quite the year, including last night. All right, good preview. We got to call back to that later on. Okay, great, great, great. Establish a runner. Is it Shalomey, you hack?

It's Tim Chalem. Oh, you're the one that thinks he's hot? Yeah, that's right. But yeah, I feel like this season, I will say, I think because it's like the longest one that they've had, like, the pacing was a little off in terms of like some plot lines are moving slower than others. But in terms of like where it ended up, I felt very sad. by like the journey being taken and who dies and why and who gets a happy ending and like that guy the uncle is that's uncle riko the oh yeah that was that hit me like a ton of bricks data might have dropped that like on instagram or something i can't remember how i figured that out but that it's up to a lot of stuff

that's none of my business none of my business she's very that's the other dad she's good at social media every kid has two dads not just mine next pick. You look at Arthur. Our kids especially have one dad. Those kids look like us. Yeah, you guys really got me. That's what everybody keeps saying. You guys got you, baby.

Are you serious? No. Are you? I think Artie looks like you. I don't think Matt looks like me. She does. She does. Why, I hope she doesn't have the high school.

I did. That would be a bummer for her skin. I don't think she's going to get beat into the crypt. No. That was middle school. Oh, excuse me. I do hope she has the middle school. Next pick, well, she's born in.

I'm a Crip. One of her dad's a Criot. She's a Criot. him. There it is. I'm keeping it TV. I'm going the chair company. Okay. You know what's weird, man? I got like four episodes in and just like fell out.

It was just what I needed when I was watching it. I don't know if I've ever seen a weirder show in my life. I will plug this. I reviewed the show, but I also HBO reached out and they're like, hey, do you want to talk to the guy who he talks to in the suit store? Because that's a real guy who owns a suit store in Mount Vernon, New York. Dog. And they just met him while location scouting and we're like, we need this guy on camera.

He was perfect. And Mount Vernon? Money making Mount Vernon? Shout to Heavy D and the boys. And no one else. Except the sukkha. Yeah. I don't know what anyone's talking about right now.

I am someone who's not like the most Tim Robinson. Like you got to tune into that frequency to really be into. like I think you should leave. That's kind of why I didn't watch this because I love it on I think you should leave, but I'm like, I don't know about a whole narrative. This is a little more reality. There's a slightly a little more reality in it. Yeah.

Just a little bit to keep it grounded. It's not like Lake Bell balances it out very well. Love Lake Bell. And Sophia Liliths. She's great. But it's really like they build a whole world with its own rules. And so it's less like I think you should leave where there's just like one person who's just like disrupting the social order and everyone is like who the fuck is this.

It's like everyone, like there's two people who are normal in the show and everyone else is just vibrating at that Tim Robinson, you know, frequency. And so it's really interesting to watch like other people in scenes with him match his energy consistently. Yeah. And it makes it like less stressful than I find watching. I got to give it a shot. So many people whose opinion I respect are like. Sean seems to like it too. I just couldn't.

I felt like I couldn't get it. I felt like I couldn't get in. But that's how I had to watch... Are we going to talk about his movie? Is that going to come up? That came out last year? Sure. It's...

Go for it. It's kind of in the same name. I had to watch that... Friendship. I didn't get it until like... I just didn't feel like I was in on it until like the second time I watched it. I mean, the chair company is a sillier show version of that pretty much.

Like, same thing with his show, you know? Like, same thing with I think he should leave. This is just like a more toned-down version of all of that, to me. Yeah, and I feel like the fact that... that a Tim Robinson character is like you say that and you know exactly the type of guy you're talking about or you see that type of guy and you'll be like, oh, like, I could see this in a Tim Robinson show. Like they're so, him and Zach Canaan are just so good at like building.

They're like Wes Anderson. It's just they like they build this universe and you know exactly what belongs in it and exactly what doesn't. And my brain doesn't work that way. I think that's why I like it so much is because my brain doesn't, my comedic brain doesn't work silly like that. I feel when I do stand-up, it's not real monotone. I just kind of stand.

So I like watching someone who's just goofy. Your brain does that, though. You are silly. Yeah. Yeah. It's silly goose. I try to be a silly little goose sometimes. Silly.

Tell me my fourth pick. I mean, you do think poofs funny. I'm going to go, I'm going to dip in the sports world, but in a way they kind of touch in a pop culture. I'm going to take the Luca Donchish trade. Motherfucker! I thought I could get that next. I thought I could get it for sure.

It? It was crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. You know what the fuck is going on? Fucking. Are you like a how well-equip?

I'm still tapped in enough that I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's... I had to ask you guys, I go, I don't know what I'm talking about, but this is nuts, right? And you're like, yes, this is nuts. For, like, people thought that the person who reported it had been hacked for hours. Even when other reporters were like, no, this is real. We were all like, well, they've all been hacked.

Like, it... One of the best young players in the NBA was traded pretty much straight up for another very good but often injured player in the NBA. Nobody could fucking believe it. Now the person who, like, has did that trade, the Dallas Mavericks GM got fired because, of course, and now they're already on the verge of trading the guy. They traded for Luca Donchich. But it was like, there are certain things that happen. It's like the, it's the amount of news that like a president dying would get like that, like that kind of feeling you get where you're like, what just happened? Holy shit, but like so much lower stakes in like a really fun way.

You know, like... It was like, you could feel it enter the algorithm. Yeah. Like from when you first saw, like the WAS post or whoever. Yeah. And then you're just like, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no, no. What, what? It just, it was, that was a really wild time.

So there was the wave of, I can't believe this is happening. And then there was the wave of the fucking Lakers got Luca Dantzsche's like again on top of it. Like when... So then it interrupted into this Laker hate and that they were just like, it was a lasagna of like, I can't believe what just fucking happened. In such a fun way. Even though a benefit of the Lakers, a team I hate more than I hate almost anything on the planet. Yeah.

Like, it just was like, it's, anytime something like that happens, it's, you get giddy. It's so fun. And then like, didn't he get skinny? Like, all the, all the scrutiny about his body. I'm like, we think like women actresses have it bad. Oh, my God. His body, his habits, everybody was really talking about. Like, he's like a big fat beer chugging cheesecake factory eating dude.

Okay, relax. That's what they were saying about him, basically. Who, like, happened to lead his team, you know, like to the, you know, like deep in the playoffs, like to the NBA finals. And then, and then he got, like, came to L.A. and was like, he's drinking. He's, like, going to heroin. And he's eating fucking activated almonds and shit. He was like, I wrote a book about being a fat guy. I can say that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's what people were saying about it. That was like the scumberbund. And then he's here, you know what I mean? With DeAngelo's, may he rest in peace, like, on the cover of men's health. like and you know did he get all shredded up? Yes

Yeah I'm gonna check that out And like the Mabs Just they were just so like The dude who traded him away You know they were like We wanted someone who we could build around And like Anthony Davis who they traded for

It's like healthy Half the games of a season His nickname is street clothes Street clothes Yeah It was just If you see his face I feel like there's some kind of an avian nickname

That's called the brow He But he got big Like Anthony Davis was like like normal height and then like got crazy tall like in two summers. Right. I just think that like kind of fucks your body up. I think like yeah. Because he's up for the season now because he hurt his hand.

That's not a tall guy thing. I also like how you asked me if I knew about this is if we are not sitting in the room with my dear friend and former colleague, the co-author of the hit track, Halliluca. Holilucah. Yeah. Absolutely. Of course I know. Sing a little bit. Right now.

You look really attractive right now. Oh, and you're applying that I. usually don't. That's not how I would have taken in that. This is a non-threatening work environment, Isaac. And if you don't feel safe about Sean's advances, you text. Don't you dare unionize you sexy. We want to be able to call you hot whatever we want. Make another button and unbutton it. Allison, time for your fourth pick. My fourth pick is Lily Allen's West End girl. Oh, there we go. Yeah. That is what we kind of thought Lemonade what.

Like, do you remember when you were listening to the first half of Lemonade when it dropped in 2016? And you're like, are Jayce and Beyonce getting a divorce? Like, is this how she's announcing that their marriage is over? She's just sticking it to him. And then the whole second of that album was like, and then we got back together and it's great. And this is like, I broke up with my husband and here is exactly what happened and why. and the very specific terms of like not just he cheated, but like he insists,

he pressured me into an open relationship that I wasn't really comfortable with it and then violated the established boundaries, which is such a like 2025 way of having a breakup and the way the songs are just, it's kind of like metaphors overrated. It's just like the lyrics are just like notes on her iPhone. Yeah.

And apparently like the divorce happened. and she basically went to L.A. and they recorded the whole album in 10 days. It's like a tell-all album. Yeah. It's a tell-al album. Yes. They recorded in 10 days and then they like sat on it and like, you know, made music videos and stuff.

But like it's a very raw outpouring. And Lily Allen is someone who like obviously smile is a smash will, you know, be forever a great song. But, you know, what's not in the center of the culture? Yeah. And the fact that she just captured this so well. was so willing to just like bear all and be like here's my super private life and exactly what went on. Yeah.

And like, you know, here's what it feels like being on dating apps in your 40s with kids. Like, gee. Ha! Ha! I didn't know anything about this? Oh. That's you know who her ex-husband is? Fucking hurt my feelings.

Do you know who her ex-husband is? Let me guess. This is going to be good. Malik Yoba. Malik Yoba. You got it. I didn't think you were going to get it. It's other hellboy, David Harbor.

This is the best part of, yeah, it's David Harbor, who this is the best part and why this is like diabolical. She recorded this album in December and then sat on it and then released it the month before this final season of Stranger Things. Basically just be like, fuck you, dude. Let's go. I do think that's dumb me from watching it. Everyone knows exactly who it's about, and I know so much more about this guy

and his very specific hangups than I ever thought I would. But yeah, it's like amazing. And the fact that like there's a major pop single now called Pussy Palace that I hear in like Dwayne Reed. And I'm like, is this something that should be playing in a drugstore? I don't know. But yeah, it was really like everywhere. Excellent big. She's not Raya though, right?

Got it. Got to be in Raya. Yeah. That feels elevated. I'm sure Raya sucks too. I never been never been in there. I actually really enjoyed Raya. I met some cool, not a lot of romantic success, but I bet.

some cool people on there. That's what I always hear is like, it's good to like meet people, but like almost no one actually uses it as a dating app. Yeah. It's really hot. I think like, I don't know. I went on like a couple dates, but it was just like, oh, this is an interesting person to like talk to.

But this was like last year. It's like your wife told you that he was pregnant. She was like, let me download Raya. David, time for your fourth and then your final picks. Okay. Fourth pick. I guess I should take a movie, huh? You can't?

I'm going to take just because once again my algorithm, people wouldn't shut the fuck up about it. It just took over everything, sinners. Big movie. Yeah. It was a huge movie. But you guys didn't like it. I loved it.

I liked it. I liked it. It didn't blow my doors off. Same. There are things I can point to and be like this, this and this are things that I would consider to be flaws, but I'm still really happy that it's as big as it is. I like Cougler more than I like Michael B. Jordan, I think.

Interesting. Is like what a lot of these. These two don't like Michael, but Jordan. We don't not like him. I just don't think he's a great actor. You said he's never been good at anything. I do think he's great. Don't say texts.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good call. Man, you're putting candy-coded out on the street. Maybe chill out. I would guarantee you've set it on wax, both of you. Yeah, probably. Yeah, probably.

I believe it. I'm trying to be better about it because I do understand the appeal of him maybe more than I did when I was so angry. But when I watched Sinners, he was not at all the most exciting thing to me of that movie even kind of. I thought Delroy Lindo was great. Delroy Lindo went crazy. Yeah. I thought the-Haly Steinfeld. Halee Stinefeld was pretty fun at it.

Yeah. I thought the Chinese shop owner was great. They were great. I thought that, oh, what's the name? Miles or Milo. Smoke's Maine. Wimmosaku. Oh, she was great.

Like that's... She was great. Me and Langston were talking about it. I was like, that's who I wanted the whole fucking movie to be about. She was fucking great. But... Bottle top to her, she's pregnant. But the whole point, huge movie, great movie, great to have a fun.

It just was huge. Also, Coogler negotiated that amazing deal where the copyright reverts to him after 25 years because there was so much demand for his next project that he was able to just be like, I want to own this movie after... Also, to be like, Warner Brothers is making... so much money off this. I think everyone got the great, you know, the best side of that deal. But...

They're a big year, Warner Brothers. Yes, they did. And then we're... And now they're getting skeoped. That's crazy too. But I feel like one of the things I love about Ryan Coogler movies is that like they have real ideas in the way that like Black Panther

is a movie that is like a very satisfying comic book movie and it's also about like what is a black utopia owe to the diaspora? Yeah, yeah. And Michael B. Jordan's villain has a real point about like it's fucked up

that you guys are sitting here and you have like while everyone else is suffering and I feel like this movie the fact that it like There's a great joke about it on my special birth of a nation. Yeah.

I have a whole black pepper joke. There you go. I had a feeling about that as an average person. I was just trying to set it up so you can promote your mind. I really appreciate it. Please. And Creed asked the question

what does Philadelphia owe to four wheelers? That's so true. And the answer is everything. At least Elaine. But Sinners is like, I like how it has the faint of like, okay, you think this is going to be about like, you know, racist KKK people versus black people trying to make something for themselves. And that is part of it. But then the vampires are like so much more interesting as a villain. Yeah.

It's not about that. It's about like we are also oppressed people. And like what if we like all made a cultural melting pot and a mishmash and like the. my hot take about that movie is the dance force scene that everyone freaked out about. Yeah. I didn't love it like took me out of the movie. Sister. Is this a safe space?

Sister. Me and my wife saw it together. It was happening. I was like, I don't know why, but I'm fucking pissed on. Yeah, I mean, I'm glad. It was that and then the very, very end when he's got the kujia on. I was like, why are we? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Who even doing this for? But I say that because the scene that is actually credible to me as like a musical scene that incorporates the movie's ideas is when the Rocky Road to Dublin when they like incorporate like hip hop and black music and rhythms into an Irish folk jig. Yeah. Because the vampire hive mind has like absorbed all of this knowledge. It's like an incredible thing to listen to but also is like this is what the movie's about. Yeah.

And I like there's so much that's interesting in that that I can forget. Yeah. Like the ending, I was like, why are you trying to have both the sappy? sentimental ending and like him firing a machine gun. Yeah, and we didn't have to do that. Like, it ended, I thought well. Right? It was not necessary.

Whatever, though. But the point is, it was a huge movie. I love a, I love a big, big fucking movie, man. He also, Coogler and fucking rule. He's like, he's Spielberg. He's like, just takes these big fucking swings. Where he's like, here are all the formats. And like, here's what's the difference between them is.

It was so cute. And here's what I will say, Michael B. Jordan, however he acted, sexy as fucking that movie. A sexy guy. Two different kinds of sexy. Double sexy. I couldn't carry it. You got to be you and your sexy brother.

The people who could do that, Michael B. Jordan, Ian Carmel, maybe challenging. It's like a short list of people who can carry that kind of movie. You and your sexy brother. And I took myself out. You're wearing that same ship, but it's just you and you. He may not be your favorite actor, but like,

he created two distinct characters who, like, you could tell which one was witch by, like, their facial. expression. Yeah. It was so well done. I think he's fantastic. But Delroy Lindo did. That was maybe my favorite.

Del Rylindo rules. That was probably my second favorite character to watch. He, I love him in anything, though. Yeah. Shout out to The Good Fight on Paramount Plus. I need to get into that world. It may rest in peace. But it's Delroroo, it's Delroo on a lawyer show.

See, that's awesome. I loved him in the five bloods. I loved him in Clockers. Yeah. Lockers was my introduction. You should read the book. You should read the book. The second.

Clockers reference on this particular. particular podcast. You should read the book. You should read clockers. All right. Now let's do a little lightning round for the fifth pick. Oh yeah, we got to get out of here. Fifth pick.

Oh, you know what I'm going to take fifth pick? South Park blast in the government. Oh, yeah. It felt like, whoa. Oh, South Park's back, you know what I mean? And not just because I did that drops for it. Come on. AI.

AI Donald Trump penis? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was just like, it was fun. It was fun. It was fun. The beginning of the season.

be like, what are they going to do next? Uh-huh. It's funny working inside television and like knowing, like, when you get network notes and especially in this age of mergers where it's like, you know, like Kimmel's like, like, they're like, we're pulling you off the air for doing like a, for what some people perceive to be a joke about Charlie Kirk, right? Right. And then South Park who can do this because they got paid, they got a, they got a billion

dollar contract this year and like get ratings. They're just like, yeah, it's the president's dick. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, like, the way they work is, like, they're still making it basically, like, the day before. I don't even know what the actual... It's just, like, insanely tight turnaround for animation, which is traditionally, like, you make it, like, 18 months ahead. Yeah.

You just let it rock. Because they had that documentary about it, right? Yeah. Six days to air. It was so long ago, and I bet it's still roughly the same way they do it. They literally had to delay an episode because it just, like, wasn't ready at time. Right, yeah. Which, uh...

Thanks. It was because David couldn't. do the drop. Whenever we have to record and re-record stuff, I'm like, okay. Yeah. Oh, I see it. Yeah, you get it. Allison, you're a final thing. One battle after and over. Yeah. Yeah, I love Paul Thomas Anderson, and Hair and Vice is maybe my favorite movie of all time. Is that right? That's the one I haven't seen. I need to find it to Oh, I recently like forced a friend who hadn't seen the movie to watch it with me, so maybe we can replicate that experience for you. Okay, sure. But I love his movies, but I'm very used to them coming out.

and it's being like, oh, it's a huge deal in like L.A. and New York, but they're these, like, tiny weird things that, like, awards bodies don't get. They don't make a lot of money. And speaking of Warner Brothers, he got, like, $120 million from a major studio to make a Thomas Pynchon adaptation, which is bonkers. And just the, before you talk about the movie, just, like, the experience of having a PTA movie get, like, advertisements all over the world and just get feel like. feel like an event, get like the full rollout was just really cool. And then the movie itself is just,

it rocks. Like Tiana Taylor is only in the movie for like 45 minutes. Fucking powerhouse though. Yeah. Truly. And her spirit is in the entire movie. Yeah, it is. Her presence has felt the whole time.

But like it's so nice that she won the award last night because you're like, yeah. Like she sets the tone for the whole thing. Her and Chase Infinity, you know what? It was like two where I'm like, I really haven't seen a lot of, well, none from Chase Infinity. Chase Infinity's only other major role to date was like as the daughter in the Jake Gyllenhaal presumed innocent. Oh, that's right.

Yeah. Which I did see and really enjoy it. Yeah. So like that's her. And then she just completely pops in this. And like Benicio del Toro. Oh my God. They shut down production of the movie for like two to three months because they were like,

we need to wait for him to finish making a movie with West Anderson. And you watch it and you're like worth every cent. Yeah. He went crazy. Everything. And apparently, like, what's also wild is that PTA has been sitting on, like, a version of this movie for, like, 20 years. It sounds like there are a bunch of different things that he'd been, like, kicking around that he kind of collated together. And yet, even though he's been, like, thinking of this for so long, apparently, like, Benicio de Toro just showed up and was like, yeah, this is what I think this character is. Like, they improvised a bunch. And the fact that he's still, like, so open-minded to experimentation, even though he is, like, a writer-director who you think would be, like, like so controlling, like David Finchery about every single frame. And you really feel the looseness. And it's also

like the first PTA movie that feels like an all-California movie. Like they shoot up in Eureka. They shoot up by the they shoot down by the border. And Lickrish Pizza. Too, that's like another all-California. Well, Lickrish Pizza is like All-L-A movie, I guess. No, Lickrish pizza is the valley. That's like him going back and being like San Fernando Valley, Ventura Boulevard.

But you're saying like all of California. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It goes from the top to the bottom. Like, like, and a little bit in El Paso. And I just, I just, loved that it was such a big experience and that it seems, you know, knock on wood, pretty likely to win Best Picture, which is sick. It feels like Oppenheimer where everyone was like, oh, yeah, we finally have a reason to, like, honor this person who's been so important for a long time.

So Inherent Vice is still your favorite PTA? Yeah. I mean, that's also the crazy thing about this movie. I love this movie. I think it's great. I think it's like maybe not even in the top half of his filmography. I feel the same one. I think he's so good at what he does.

He's so good. And I'm like, after I was done, I was like, that was great. Not a top five PTA for me. Yeah, which is not to say it's a bad movie. It's just that the master and phantom thread and inherent vice and there will be blood are also movies that exist. I'm an insane person who has a licorice pizza in his top five. No, I love licorice pizza. I really enjoyed it.

Time for my final pick. If you haven't seen one battle after another, if you haven't seen any of this, but that movies. I just watched it two days ago just for this. It's also, it's a three-hour movie, blink of an eye. Yeah, I saw it in theaters. It was like, I couldn't believe it. it. Yeah.

I'm part of my wife was shopping. Sheesh. No, sometimes we'll go to the mall though and I'll be like, I'm just going to. Part of me wants to watch a movie. I got to take, oh, man, there's so many wonderful things that happened this year. And no bad things. No bad things. No bad things.

No one. It's nuts, man. I'm going to take Ken Burns American Revolution. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. God damn. Nobody does it like that.

Kenny. Man, do you have that PBS pass where you got all of them? Man, I just started watching country music yesterday. I didn't think I was going to give a shit after jazz. So good. I feel like either you or Data could be the one to do this. Does either you do the thing where you watch it and then you hear like them reading the quotes from the historical figures and you lean over and you're like, that's Claire Dan.

We both do it. That's Ethan Hawk. We both do it. When we, the way we fucking like, we both cheered. when we were like, it's fucking Giamati doing John Adams. He's reprising a roll. Back at the saddle. He was reprising a roll.

Ken Burns, you've done it again. Dern was in it. Dern toot. Meryl. Merrill was in there. Josh Brolin is George Washington is also such good casting. Because it really is part of it. It's like this guy had so much Riz.

Yeah. Like you don't even understand how authoritative and cool George Washington was. And so it's like, yeah, let's cast the guy with like gravel for me. It was just, it's so good. It also like stuff like you thought you knew and it's like it really like it was like, oh no, it was like street fights and like what like shit breaking out and city like it really like, I don't know it. When they describe what tarring and feathering actually is.

It's like oh yeah, it seems kind of silly, but no. This is like they're throwing boiling oil on skin. It's torture. It's torture. The feathering part not that bad. It's the tar. Humiliation. It's all bad.

Sure, but the tar. Well, we'll. feather you and see how you like it. Yeah, we'll tar and feather you next episode. Don't feather your hair. I thought you were going to put stuff in it now. Sorry if your hands all gooey, dude. You're a gorgeous man.

Dude, I thank you so much. I'm going to go, I bet you this isn't a crazy popular pick, but your friends and neighbors. I loved it. This is all for me. Oh, yeah. Johnny Hammie show on Apple TV. Loved it. Easy watch, low stakes, stealing from rich people.

Olivia Mun does fantastic. Amanda Pete is great. And John Ham rips. I love John Ham. So just a fun, easy show. Haven't seen it? I watch like four episodes. Yeah.

It's just easy. It's just, it's good. It's positive. I don't get over to Apple TV much. This one gets stuff over there. You got to think it's what I hear. That's what everybody's been saying. I just never, like, when I turn it on, that's never the Apple.

It's hard to navigate. What I'll say about Apple TV is it's not clear what you have to buy and what you get with a subscription. Well, they also renamed it so that Apple TV now refers to both. They used to call the streaming service Apple TV Plus to differentiate between the thing that you can pay $7 a month or in like the device. And now they're like, whatever. They're just both the same thing.

Figure it out. Yeah, they don't know. We're like a trillion dollar company. Anyway, your friends and neighbors. Loved it. Oh, I guess I did watch the studio. That's all there.

Yeah. Iceman, do you have a pick? Yeah, my favorite movie of last year was Wake Up Dead Man. Nice. Speaking of Josh Brolin. Glad for it to get a little shout out. Yeah. Got you go to the premiere.

It's a fun one of my wife. Really good movie about religion. Really? I mean, as somebody with a very complicated relationship to religion and faith, it was like, I watched it twice. It was so good. What's the other religion movie you were just talking about? There was another religion movie?

Was it the Testament of An Lee? Because that shit rocks. I want to see that so. In group chat, you were like as a religious person, and then I saw it like the day after you said that. The Passion of the Christ you were bringing up the other dog. One of my favorite movie. I think it was Wake Up Dead man.

That's what I was struggling to chat. No, I'm thinking of something different. He just said it, whatever. We'll figure. Now I'm doing candy-coated. in the street. Unless you're now candy-coated.

You took Labouibu Mania, Kimmel, the Riyadh Comedy Festival, sinners, and South Park Blasting the government. Allison, you went second. You took heated rivalry,

the pit, Marty Supreme, Lily Allen's West End Girl, and one battle after another. As always, you have kind of definitive lists. I took K-pop demon hunters,

SNL-50, death by lightning, the Luca Doncha trade, and Ken Burns's American Revolution. Sean took the cold play kiss cam, Oasis, White Lotus, the chair company,

and your friends and neighbors. I mean, we left the whole rest of the year on, but we need to give some shoutouts. The lowdown with Ethan Hawk, I loved it. So good. Also on my year-end list. I was going to say Andor was my number one show of the year. Oh, yeah. I think I picked season one, so I left it off this year.

But like, perfect conclusion. So good. Nailed it. Amazing show. Chicago Pope happened this year. Yeah, Chicago Pope. The Kendrick Super Bowl, although it feels like it belonged to the year before. That did happen this year. I had that on this year.

Beyonce's Grammy. Beyonce's Grammy. I had 6-7 on my list too. And that was the very first thing I had. Oh, Mombani's huge. That's a great one. The Rosalia album. The Gis album. The Gis album, those are both like huge.

The Rosalie album is fucking amazing if you ever heard that. I haven't seen it. It's really good. Shout out to Department Q on Netflix. Just like a Matthew Good British mystery that I like Dana and I watched. She made me stop watching. She's like, we have to not watch this. The woman who gets abducted is in the new season of industry.

And I was like, hey, my best. That's friend Chloe Piri. I love her. Okay, great. Yeah. The Louv Heist. Superman, just like a fun. Superman was great.

First movie I saw in theaters after Arthur was born. And there's a baby in peril scene in it. So we were like weeping in the theater. Anyway, those are our picks. We want to hear yours. Allison, thank you so much. Thank you guys so much for having me.

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