All Fantasy Everything - 90s Rap Albums (w/ Matt Braunger and Jeff Weiss)

Episode Date: October 6, 2016

In the fourth episode, we fantasy draft rap albums from the 90s. Host Ian Karmel is joined by comedian Matt Braunger and journalist/writer Jeff Weiss. Together, they'll comb through hip-hop's lushest decade and collect the five best albums they can. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a Head first podcast we recorded, and then we put it in the cooler for a minute, and now we're releasing it to you here. So there will be references to it being the first one. It's not the first one. This is just me fucking with you. If you drop LSD and listen to me say it's the first one, it'll totally open up your mind. It's going to be amazing for you. Today, we did 90s hip-hop. Hip-hop, of course, started in the late 70s in the South Bronx, you know, with DJs and MCs rapping over breakbeats. It grew throughout the 80s. By the 90s, it was a full-force, you know, cultural mainstream thing. On the West Coast, you had groups like NWA. On the East Coast, you had Biggie and Nas.

The South started to represent, you know, with Outkast coming out of Atlanta, UGK coming out of Houston. Lorne Michaels said about Saturday Night Live that your favorite cast is whatever cast, you know, was there when you were in high school. And that's probably a little bit true of hip-hop, too. I wasn't in high school in the 90s,

but that's when I really started to get into it. So I think of it as the golden age of hip-hop too. I wasn't in high school in the 90s, but that's when I really started to get into it, so I think of it as the golden age of hip-hop. Here to draft 90s hip-hop albums with me, I am joined by the comedian Matt Bronger, a very funny man, huge rap fan, was actually in a rap group himself in college, although it's tough to get him to admit to it on a podcast. And College, although it's tough to get him to admit to it on a podcast. And joining me and Matt is Jeff Weiss, who is a music writer. He's written for LA Weekly, Playboy, Rolling Stone, so many different places to find his reading. He's such a well-thought-out intellectual about hip-hop, but not in the annoying way

where it takes all the fun out of it. He's someone who genuinely loves rap music and is amazing at writing and talking about it. So for me, it was just a joy to have him in the studio. It was always a joy to have Bronger anywhere near me. And I think you're going to enjoy it too. Here we are drafting 90s hip-hop albums. Albus. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the very first episode of All Fantasy Everything.

I am your host, Ian Carmel, as you know. And today we are drafting hip-hop albums from the 1990s. We're doing a fantasy draft only on hip-hop albums, only from the 1990s. I have two esteemed guests here with me today. I'm going to introduce them right now. First, and drafting first, is Matt Bronger. Hello. Matt is a stand-up comedian, originally from the Rose City of Portland, Oregon. Yes, sir.

And then moved to New York City. Then Chicago. And then Chicago. Now Los Angeles. And then graces us here in Los Angeles. Matt, while we have people listening, where can people find you on the internet and go see you perform stand-up? Oh, you can go to mattbronger.com. That's M-A-T-T-B-R-A-U-N-G-E-R.com for all my dates.

And follow me at Bronger on Twitter. And if you want to see some of my stuff, I'm on my Netflix special, Big Dumb Animal. Perfect. Fantastic. Check it out on Netflix. To my right, we have Jeff Weiss, writer. I'm not going to let it go. I don't know what I am either. What are you? I'm not esteemed. I took great

umbrage with your introduction. I left out esteemed on purpose. Thank you. I'm trying to build tension. Not esteemed. I'm trying to build tension for the draft. Yeah, I feel when it's like you in your room with a cat all day long, it's not really you getting esteemed. And when your cat is named after a literary figure, it's even less esteemed. What is your cat's name?

F. Scott Fitzgerald the Cat. Which is great. It's only actually funny. It's insufferable if I don't include the – but I make sure that I include the cat. So, like, you go into the vet and they're like, F. Scott Fitzgerald. I'm like, you're forgetting something. And they're like, oh, F. Scott Fitzgerald the Cat. Fantastic.

So primarily you're an esteemed cat namer. I'm a cat namer. And then you're also – I'm a cat whisperer. You're a writer. You write a lot about hip hop. You write about a ton of things. Yeah.

Like, you know, I try to not be like the – you know, it's like I think if you're writing about hip hop at a certain point, you become the proverbial old guy in the club. So I'm trying to write more about, you know, – no, like politics sometimes. Sports sometimes. Where can people find the stuff you write? And do you have anything coming out soon you're excited about you want to send people to? On Twitter.com. I'm at Passion Weiss. I have a website called Passion of the Weiss, which I edit because I like losing money.

Which is the most non-Jewish thing I've ever said. Just to be clear, you're Jewish. Yeah. Okay, thank you. It would be amazing if you weren't. Like, for a while. Just saying that. Like to be clear, you're Jewish. Yeah. Okay, thank you. It'd be amazing if you weren't. Like, for a while. Just saying that, like, whoa, all right, man. Like, anti-Semitism starts early.

I didn't see that coming at all. We won't be picking any Beastie Boys albums. That was my setup, actually. I have an article that it'll be out in the next Playboy and online, which is actually I went to the Israeli Burning Man. I was telling you about that earlier. Yeah, Israeli. There's a Burning Man in Israel. Well, it was such a good joke that I was like, all right, I was in Israel.

I got a free trip because like, I don't know, like those give you free trips to Israel. It wasn't even birthright, but you can just kind of get. Yeah, that's true. So I was on a previous trip to Israel and some guys like I run the Israeli Burning Man. I was like, yeah, that's a story. You were telling me, tell Matt the date that you ate. So it's like day three of the Israeli Burning Man. I'm like just ragged.

I'm just like, if I have to hear any more psychedelic trance music, somebody's got to die. But everyone has guns except me, so it's going to be me. And then I'm just like go to this guy and like they have this expression like the fly provides and I'm like fuck your fly providing it doesn't provide shit I can't even get weed here I'm going to kill somebody

and that's that doesn't count as a burning man if you can't get weed if you can't get drugs yeah weed yeah like I was like please anything anything

like I was like nothing I can inject like I don't know I don't know what's going on here so he goes he pulls me aside he's like psst I was like

I walk over to this guy And he's like, this is a psychedelic date I was like, well, it's the most Israeli thing I've ever heard And I was like Do I take it with some hummus? How do I do this? You have to take it in a burgeoning settlement Shit got really crazy

And I took it Immense guilt Just so much overwhelming psychedelic guilt yeah totally psychedelic guilt it was like honestly

like the holocaust appeared before my eyes it was glorious and uh but I did watch Noah's Ark Burn Down which was like and honestly

I felt like I was like this weird bad holy land amusement park and then I go into uh there's like I'm tripping out now I'm like I don't feel good I think I'm like, I'm tripping out now, I'm like,

I don't feel good, I think I'm, you know, wandering a place called the afterlife, which I'm like, oh, this is a chill out kind of Burning Man thing. I thought we didn't believe in the afterlife.

Yeah, which, well, it was a lesbian S&M show. Oh, okay, fantastic. Man dressed as the devil,

and I'm just like, and then like, they're playing like, all of a sudden, Bon Jovi's Wanted Dead or Alive comes on. I'm like, holy shit, they're gonna murder me to a

Richie Sambora guitar solo. Israeli Burning Man sounds way better than American Burning Man. I don't know anything about it. It seems completely unpretentious. I found this CD in the corner. I don't know what it's on. I'm just going to throw it on. Oh, Bon Jovi.

Bon Jovi. That's coming out soon on Playboy? It'll soon on playboy use in playboy all right uh fantastic since since we're talking about uh 90s hip-hop today i want to do maybe a little update is there any what what hip-hop are you guys listening to right now what do you what's the music you're listening to right now that you like just a quick recommendation for our listeners matt you got it you want to go first we were just talking about uh about about chance you know which i feel like he's just ever present and and and all around yeah he's great but uh you brought up a great point about like it's just almost too happy and too and too

yeah it's a little it kind of gets there a little bit yeah and i and i would agree with that i'm trying to think of something modern i listen to i I make fun of guys my age that pretend they like Future. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? I love Future. And it's like, I like some of it. But I like, you know, I'm 42. When I meet a guy that's my age, it's just like, oh, I'm really into it.

I'm like, hmm. Yeah. Are you, though? Are you or do you know you're supposed to be? I can't like it as much as someone who's 22. I just can't. Yeah. But I do like, you know, I appreciate it.

Like, you know, I like, it's almost like listening to you know stan getz like i like different rhythmic structures yeah i mean like that i was like wow they came up with an entirely new rap rapping style rapping pattern even you know even the melody and and then and the beat pattern and you know the numbers are just completely like different they completely fucked it up that's what happens when you come up just on promethazine and Atlanta strip clubs. That's how I feel about Young Thug. Yeah. He also has this weird thing in my brain.

He has the tears part of my brain. I'll be out and I'll be like, man, I don't know why. He makes me want to cry. I'm so happy I want to cry. And if you told my 21-year-old self, you will be liking a man named Young Thug. Right. That doesn't sound like a thug at all. No.

He almost raps in – And he's Jeffrey. It makes me so happy. He's redeemed Jeffreys. He raps in this pitch that is like hearing your own baby cry where you're like drawn to it. It's like, oh, I have to care for it. I have to care for Young Thug.

Well, it's not – it's just – it's the first robot baby. Yeah. Like it's not just a baby. It's a robot baby. Young Thug is hip-hop's robot baby. Yeah. Like, it's not just a baby. It's a robot baby. Young Thug is hip-hop's robot baby. Robot baby. That they just put a mic in front of, and he made a billion dollars. Yeah.

That's as good of a point as any to jump in. Really quick, Schoolboy Q's album, Blank Face. Yeah, yeah. I can't stop listening to it. That's amazing. Definitely fuck with that. I'm more of a YG fan of the two. You took YG over Schoolboy Q?

Oh, yeah, yeah. YG, growing up in la like i feel like i i hear that like that synth line yeah it's just like i'm like pavlov's dog i'm like it gets you going immediately yeah i'm like all of a sudden i'm doing dances i don't know how to do yeah both i'm like why am i doing this i would like i feel like i'm cheating because like a lot of a lot of the stuff that i like is it sounds like the stuff i grew up on like joey badass yeah and that whole crew was like it's like the stuff I grew up on, like Joey Badass and that whole crew. It's like you're basically doing – I wouldn't even call it old school New York, but just New York, New York.

Yeah, real New York hip-hop. So good. Unmitigated. Speaking of which, let's get into it. Okay. And then I think some music here or maybe something like that. We'll just leave this part. Don't even edit that out.

Freestyle. Yeah, I'll beatbox. You guys freestyle over it. All right, so then we're going to, and I'll just introduce you as the first pick. Okay. All right, with the first pick, the first pick ever on All Fantasy Everything, drafting 90s hip-hop albums, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Matt Bronger. Well, I had to go with the combination Satchel Paige and Babe Ruth of, to me, 90s rap albums, Illmatic by Nas.

Illmatic. To me, when that came out, I was in college, and I just remember. To use a basketball analogy, it was as if Jordan in 1992 started as a rookie but was that good. Right. He was dunking on everybody and was making every shot. Nas was, you'd only heard him on Live at the barbecue and the main source out uh song and he said that he's known for just saying the craziest shit like he uh originally the cover for ilmatic where he was going to have jesus in a headlock that's what he wanted to have like a full-grown

naz with jesus christ like no real metaphor there. Just like, I hate everything. Yeah. And he was all, but he also, he had like a swagger and he had his, he's who's who of producers on that album. There isn't a dud in the bunch. Yeah. Like, it is the rare, not just hip hop, but any album you can listen to beginning to end and not have to skip a song. Like, it's just incredible.

It's widely regarded not only as like one of the best albums of the 90s, but just, like, one of the best hip-hop albums ever. Yeah, I think it's top ten best rap album of all time. Like, one of them, you know? He's—I mean, like, with Nas, like, I mean, I didn't listen to Nas until, like, I was, like, probably 21, 22. It just never crossed my plate until that point. So at that point, you know, I've listened to everyone who Nas influenced,

you know, like Jay-Z, of-z of course and like everyone else who but he was almost like kind of a dividing line it seemed like between like the hip-hop of the 80s yeah and then all of a sudden he was like that first like mc who spits the way he's almost like the last of that generation in a way like you know he's like you know the big daddy k and the rock camps like he was the juice crew he was the anointed one yeah and then all of a sudden you know, the Big Daddy Kane, the Rock Hams. The Juice Crew. He was the anointed one. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, you know, he comes out. Like, I got into Nas actually via, it was written, the second album. Yeah. I think.

Yeah. And I think that's kind of interesting because I feel like the first album is a greater album, more brilliant. If I had to listen to one right now, I would pick the second one. It was written just because it felt more modern to me. And I don't know. I was just like, that was he, that was him going into the new style. I think like that mid-'90s kind of like anticipating the jiggy era. There's an interesting Questlove story where he's talked about like – I think it was the 95 Source Awards.

Yeah. Where Nas loses like to everybody basically from like the – and then like you get to see him getting like crestfallen all of a sudden. And then like he loses the true school mentality and becomes like the Nas Escobar. Right, he starts to make music for the radio. Yeah, wearing like silk shirts. I like that. I like that too. Yeah, I'm also a fan of that stuff.

Yeah. I mean, it took like, I think it took Illmatic like two years to go gold. Like it didn't catch on. They're like almost Velvet Underground where it was like, you know, not everybody listened to it, but it was your favorite rapper's favorite rapper kind of thing but it also was like one of those albums that everybody had their favorite song yeah like and it was always a

different song that like i i don't really like notice or uh know of many albums where everybody has like a different favorite what is your favorite song on filmatic i gotta be i think i'm I'm not filmatic. Oh. See, I gotta be, I think I'm, I always love Represent. That's my favorite one. Yeah. The chorus is nothing.

There's no chorus. But just everything he says on it is just ill and bananas. And that beat is amazing. It's a banana. And he rides the beat so well. That's all, Represent was on the soundtrack to a video, the NBA 2K16 that I played in Sessa. I played it for thousands of hours, like literally. And I never got tired of that song. Every time it came on, I was like, oh, here it is.

I remember I had a friend who was deeply stoned and just kept texting me Nas lyrics from that album. Just like, I never sleep because sleep is the cousin of death. Yo. I was like, yeah, I've heard it. I've heard the album. Yeah. Just like, I never sleep because sleep is the cousin of death. Yeah. Yo. I'm like, yeah, I've heard it. I've heard the album. No,

I need a new nigger for this black cloud to follow because while it's over me, it's too dark to see tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, man, I know.

I'm familiar with the album. Yeah. And now he's the editor of Rap Genius. Yeah. His name. Yeah. Yeah. He had you explain

all of those lyrics and then that turned into the first entry on Rap Genius. He just didn't, that's why he texted, he just didn't get it. That guy owes you $40 million. Yeah. He had you explain all of those lyrics, and then that turned into the first entry on Rats. That's why he texted. He just didn't get it. That guy owes you $40 million. Yeah. All right.

So with the first pick of 90s hip-hop albums, Matt Bronger goes with Nas, Illmatic. Illmatic. Classic pick. Jeff, do you want to go with it? Coming up second. Okay, this is the pick that I would just go for personally. Otherwise, if it was a real fantasy draft, you could probably get this in a later round. It's a real fantasy draft.

Can I say, though? I mean, I think we're all picking, like, our favorites. Yes. There's no criteria. Pick however you want. This album sold more than any. Everyone here should be picking Hammer. It's Mace's Harlem World, which I thought about including because I love that album.

Would you make fun of someone for picking that? The best interview question ever is like, if you had 24 hours to live, what would you do? And you're like, but, you know. It's great. I'm going to do an answer. No, I'm going to go with Outkast, ATLians. ATLians. Which a lot of people would go with Equemini.

Yeah. Again, Equemini probably the greater record because that is just like Curtis Mayfield, like Sly, like in rap form and it's just in parliament. ATLN to me is – I guess I kind of like impartial to kind of like the futurism thing, but there's like a sadness and like a melancholy to it too. Yeah. It isn't necessarily in OutKast. You know, like you have Big Boi's aunt had just died. Andre is obviously – you know, I think he gets's aunt had just died andre is obviously you know i think he gets sober and starts wearing like the turban meets erica badu is like just like the peak of

baduism in the best way and i don't know like i feel like the moment it starts off with you know two dope boys and yeah i'll just never forget being like 14 15 years old hearing that for the first time and just i you felt like transported in a different world and I I never really you know because it's easy to think about it now but this is like before Cool Keith this is before Dell this is before all that stuff I mean there probably were I'm probably forgetting some at the time but I don't know do you ever watch the video for elevators like me and you yeah where he's like it's like the little boy and he's like reading a comic book and then all of a sudden it just opens up into a crazy world. Yeah.

And then the jungle, and it's – that to me, like I felt like I was that little kid. And I guess it was like to me the most imaginative record I'd ever heard at that time. And Organized No Way is like – Forget it. Oh, my God. Has there ever been a better hip-hop production team? Like no samples. Like no samples.

More thematic. Yeah, so incredibly creative. Yeah, and just think about it. I mean, okay, Manny Fresh comes – I mean, Manny Fresh was doing kind of the early kind of bounce mixture stuff. But you have Dre previously at that point. Dre is basically – I mean, brilliant, but doing loops. Riz is doing loops. Yeah.

Organized Noise are creating stuff from scratch. Yeah. They're amazing. There's a great documentary – well, not great, but there's a pretty good documentary about Organized Noise. Yeah, you can find it on – I forget the name of it. can find on netflix i think it's the art of the art of something it might be the art of noise the art of noise yeah when like southern playalistic cadillac music came out i remember hearing that album being like the production value on this is bananas and like all all of the and i was like that thought of this like what amazing samples

nope it's all play yeah and they were still kind like, since they're from the South and of the South, they were kind of stuck in that, you know, big Cadillac, you know, playalistic stuff. And then Atliens, they just went hard left weird and in a really cool way. Like, they really made themselves themselves. Is it Atliens? Is it ATLiens? Or has anyone ever spoken of it? I always said Atliens.

Atliens. When I was a kid, I did. But then I think I realized, like, it's ATLiens. Is it? Yeah. Oh, ATLiens. Of course, of course. I had no idea.

Yeah. It's ATLiens. Atliens is a fun thing to say, though, too. It really rolls out. You can name your child Atliens. And it's like, we were talking earlier kind of about, like, Chance, and I feel like they have a different, like, nothing against Chance. He's obviously, like, has a ton of talent.

Yeah. And he's made great, I loved Acid Rap. Oh, yeah. But, like, a song like Decatur Psalm to me to me or something where it's like they get like this weird they get like that red clay like biblical like southern kind of vengeance you know it's almost like feels like like william faulkner in outer space it's like you know it's like vengeful god you know and like kind of you know things are really dark yeah it's like we're doing the best we can but good lord yeah things are not going to work out.

I mean, and, like, honestly, it could have been the Witch Doctor album, which I think is, like, kind of antecedent to future. I love that Witch Doctor album. I mean, Goody Mob Soul Food's incredible. I mean, you could, I mean, I'll ride for Slim Cutta Calhoun. I love Slim Cutta Calhoun. It's always okay. Yeah.

It's all right, girl. All these only girls want a cut. This podcast now turns into just me singing slim cut of Calhoun songs for the next half hour and me saying should I

should I not get my who wanna fuck with Hollywood Cole tattoo on my arm I think you definitely should well that's that was an interesting thing cause I read

like recently maybe a year or two ago that it was like who else wanna fuck with Hollywood Court and that's always that it was Hollywood Cole who else want to fuck with Hollywood Court? And that's always that it was Hollywood Cole. I did too.

It still hasn't been effectively like determined because it might be a rap genius interpretation of blending. Hopefully not. But I heard Hollywood Court was like a neighborhood

and like he was basically saying like who else want to, like because he was from Hollywood Court. Oh yeah, it's just neighborhood. All right. So we've all been saying.

It might be Hollywood Cole. I always thought it was Hollywood Cole. Doesn't Drake reference it or who is? J. Cole. J. Cole. J. Cole. Yeah. Now who else want to fuck with Hollywood Cole? So he thinks he's Hollywood Cole. I always thought it was Hollywood Cole. Doesn't Drake reference it? Or who is... J. Cole. J. Cole.

Yeah, now who else want to fuck with Hollywood Cole? So he thinks he's Hollywood Cole. J. Cole is a complete fabrication based on a misheard lyric. And I would say that's a pretty accurate assumption of J. Cole. So I'm going to say

it's Hollywood Court just so J. Cole can't have it. Exactly. Let's start calling him J. Court. I think the point is don't get the tattoo. Just don't. I would get it.

I think everyone's heard it that way. Get two, one on each arm. All right, so the second pick of 90s hip-hop albums, Jeff Weiss goes with Outkast. Real good one. A.T. Allianz, a.k.a. Atlianz. Pronounce it however you want.

All right, now I'm going to be coming in with the third pick. And with the third pick of the 90s hip-hop albums i think i have to go with notorious big ready to die yeah 1994 i bet i because i can't not have years ilmatic same years what an amazing we could talk about 94 just as a rap year for sure in general it's insane i could not have the album the juicy is on that just on a I love that song, and it's my personal, anytime anything goes well in my life, I listen to Juicy. I actually save it. So if it's just like a Wednesday,

and I had a shitty drive home from work, I can't listen to Juicy. It's only when I get good news. I feel like anybody successful in life usually hated school, or had bad problems in school. And like, there's that, where he talks about teachers, you know what i mean like just telling him like how he dedicates it to all the teachers that never told him it's gonna be nothing yeah that's the greatest thing

because like i don't know i definitely had a lot of teachers that told me i sucked i do think he goes a little hard on the teachers at the beginning of that they were probably just saying like it's probably not likely that you're gonna be a famous rapper chris maybe you should learn some computer science skills. It's funny you guys took issue with that because when I took issue with when people calling the cops, you know, I was just trying to sell drugs, just beat my daughter. Yeah. You could have worked somewhere.

His mom, like he had like a good, like his, the Brownstones like sold like a million and a half. I know. Yeah. And his mom was actually an educator. She was an educator. And so he's like, that's one reason he's such a good rapper. And he was, he was so smart. Yeah. And his mom was actually an educator, wasn't she? She was an educator. So he's like, that's one reason he's such a good rapper, and he was so smart. Yeah.

I mean, if you think about Kanye, Kanye's mom was an English professor. Right, right. It's a pretty common thread, I think, with a guy. Even Tupac's mom, they grew up super poor, but I mean, she was really highly educated. Yeah. A brilliant woman. R.I.P., right? She just recently, yeah.

Afina Shakur. Yeah. But yeah, so, I mean, Ready to Die. I would go with Life After Death. If I had to go with one, I would go with Life After Death. Your Life After Death. I mean, Ready to Die. I love Life After Death. If I had to go with one, I would go with Life After Death. Your Life After Death. I would go Ready to Die. Ready to Die, I love.

But Life After Death is incredible. Oh my God, give me one second. We can edit this part out of the podcast. I got to just pull up the track list really quick. Yeah, I feel like, I mean, like it's honestly, it's a flip of a coin, honestly. Sure. I feel like Life After Death to me is so amazing because it was just the most virtuosic display of, like, he could do anything. Yeah.

Like, it was just like, okay, I can post up. I can rap like Bone Thugs. I can do an L.A. track. I can diss Puffy over RZA beat. Or not, excuse me, diss Tupac. Yeah. But you're like, I don't know did you ever hear that but he was still he was still the one like had a sense of humor about it yeah you

know like yeah off of uh uh another album which I won't mention because if someone's gonna say it I know but he uh he duetted and was just like if Faith has twins she might have two pox yeah two pox he's just saying like like it's's just ha-ha, who gives a shit. None of this crap matters. Although I think Faith Evans did sleep with Tupac. I got confirmation. I would have slept with, you got confirmation on it? From Tupac's mentor and ex.

We have. I was at my book reading, which was like, it was lost to the ages. Okay. Sources say breaking now on the old fantasy, everything, Tupac definitely hit it with Faith Evans. You just got a million listens. Yeah. That's amazing.

I mean, that breaks my heart because I loved... Even if it was true or not true, it's kind of like, I feel like Biggie could just shrug off literally anything. Well, how great was the Anthony Mason revelation? Oh, my God. Can we talk about that for a moment? Yes.

I'm still... I mean, that's on this album. That's... Yeah. Yeah. Props to Hubert Davis for not being for a moment? Yes. I'm still running. I mean, that's on this album. That's, yeah. Yeah. Props to Hubert Davis for not being the one. Yeah. I thought it was. Yeah.

And Anthony Mason was like. Has there, yeah. Has there ever been a scarier person to NBA? Like, that guy was a terrifying man. Only Charles Oakley. Yeah. Only Charles Oakley has been scarier. Yeah.

That, for those of you who don't know. Maybe Lambir, because you think he might have like a tire iron. Lambir might be great. Outside the stadium. Lambir's you think he might have like a tire iron outside the stadium. Lambir is white so he'd kill you and get away with it. That's the scariest thing about it. For those of you who don't know, Biggie has a song about where he mentioned sleeping with – I got a story to tell. I got a story to tell where he mentioned sleeping with a New York Knicks girlfriend.

Right. And it was apocryphal for a long time. Nobody knew if it was true. Wow. And then recently it came out. Fat Joe of all people. Fat Joe revealed it was Anthony Mason's girlfriend. So Anthony Mason took an L almost 20 years later

from the ghost of Biggie Smalls. The Coogee sweater wearing ghost of the Notorious B.I.G. But I mean just to try it's an amazing album. I mean if you're listening to this you've probably listened to it But just like Gimme the loot

Into Machine Gun Funk Gimme the loot Is one of my favorite rap songs Suicidal Thoughts Suicidal Thoughts is amazing Suicidal Thoughts is insane Back The What

The What The What There might not ever be better Rapping on a song than The What Yeah Like that might be the best Any two people have ever rapped Cause

Yeah I mean those two I mean if you think about 94 Like everyone says Biggie Biggie I don't think I think method man was truly the king of 94 yeah in terms of rapping on a bar-to-bar basis yeah well i mean even on uh uh um life after death that guy on the uh uh the mad rapper yeah my shit is way more john blaze than that oh yeah like he was john johnny blaze was method man yeah like I remember that was the funniest expression. It's just way more John Blaze.

Way more John Blaze. Blaze Magazine. I'm way more Matt Bronger. Just like using someone else's name. I'm way more Matt Bronger than Ron Funches. Talking shit. Way more Funches than that. That shit was way more Funch. All right, so that concludes the first round.

Off the board, we have Nas, It Was Written. The second pick, Outkast, ATLians, and Biggie's Ready to Die. The way this works is

since I picked third, I will also be picking fourth and then it goes to Jeff and then back to Matt. And with the fourth pick, I made the Earth Sick. I'm taking Outkast, Equemini.

I'm taking the other Outkast album. This was the album that got me into hip hop for real. I'm taking the other Outcast album. This was the album that got me into hip-hop for real. I was at Meadow Park Middle School in Beaverton, Oregon. I had a Master P double CD. Oh, the last Don.

Yeah, the MP, the last Don. I listened to it all the time. And then somebody on the bus, this guy named Jesse, I don't remember his last name. He was like, hey, I'll trade you. Because I'd listened to every song of the last Don a million times. And he had Equemini. He, hey, I'll trade you, because I'd killed, I'd listened to every song of the last Don a million times, and he had Equemini, he was like, I'll trade you this, I was like, alright, I'm only getting one CD for two, and then I put

Equemini in my Discman, and when Rosa Parks came on, it was like a life-changing moment, I listened to it the entire bus ride home, over and over and over again, it remains one of my five favorite songs of all

time. I know it's kind of like a hacky song to like from that album, but it is fucking amazing. Even on Rosa Parks at the end of it, the way they switch up the uh-huh, uh-huh, oh yeah, or hell yeah, they do it so it's

never the same. They do it like 16 different times and it's never the same it's fucking mathematically beautiful spotty oddie dopealicious is on that song he got mamacita yeah because i feel this doesn't get talked about enough where it's like in the middle of mama like there's no reason why mama see i i kind of came to love mama cita but like andre is just like randomly screaming at some about some woman making a lesbian pass at another woman yeah for no reason like it's like really weird like it's like how this is what you should do if you're like why are you giving like he like makes an instruction manual of what to do if your friend hits on you in the middle of Mamacita.

Total non-sequitur. It doesn't make any sense. It was Andre's version of the Ten Crack Commandments. It just had to do with homosexuality in the 90s. It was like – even Andre 3000 kind of weird about it. Not woke. Not woke. And not whoa.

Shout out to Black Rob. And then, I mean, Rosa Parks writing a skew it on the Barbie. That's amazing. Which is an amazing song. We talked about Spadiotti. Yeah. And that song is just, I mean, that's like basically the Isaac Hayes, like, hyper dope, you know, I can't pronounce it, but. Yeah.

It's amazing. And Andre 3000 getting weird as hell. Maybe the height of his weirdness? I don't know. This was like the... I mean, are the both of those... The second art of storytelling like as a song,

I mean, like it definitely is the precursor to like A Bombs Over Baghdad. Yeah. That's a pretty like... I hate the word avant-garde, but it was pretty avant-garde. Chunky Fire was like

a wild song too. Yeah. And this is when he's when... The one who like turned away from all substances. Yeah. Went the weirdest. Yeah. substances went the weirdest yeah yeah yeah yeah his brain was the most powerful drug I feel it's interesting because it's like

you know a lot of people like want there's always the conversation well Andre is the greatest rapper of all time or you know what I mean and it's like big boy always gets like but I feel like outcast would not have been outcast if not because there is such a balance and I feel like what Andre's music often misses and what big boy's music often misses solo yeah is that just you know and they're they're definitely the best evidence why that kind of groups are they complement each other so crazy

well and they definitely and they miss each other so much andre couldn't be andre without like when they did their when they did their individual out you know speak uh speaker box the love below i preferred uh speaker box i was more of a big boy because the love below just got too weak i mean it may be soared higher but like it was so there's six amazing songs on it but like as a listening it just or then he'll have like a hook like like roses which is like an amazing song such a good song but like you're like if you made the like i was like yeah i was like i don't want to hear someone sing about poop. No.

Not at any point. Yeah. It's just... Yeah. So together, at their heights. It's funny. You mentioned how Big Boy's kind of the more slept on of the two lyrically. To me, he would be like JZA of Wu-Tang, who was the guy who just...

Voice isn't flashy, but holy crap, he puts a sentence together well. Substance. You know what I mean? He just puts everything together like, you know. Big Boy is the turkey that lets you have the sides. You know what I mean? It's a Thanksgiving dinner. You got a big turkey there.

Substance, he cut into it. Yeah. Delicious. And then Andre 3000 is something with marshmallows on top of it for sure. Something weird. I'm not a Key and Peele guy, but their skit was real good. Yeah. That was great.

That was really good. It kind of captured the problem. The guy where they kept saying his order and he's like staring at him like, you know that's your

order. It was like a flower floating in a fishbowl. Yeah. You know, I think he's got a, I don't know, Andre just was on the Frank Ocean

album. He's just got a, I don't understand what that is, why he can't. What do we think about that? Everybody's talking about that verse. Oh, that verse is amazing. Good God. He only surfaces so rarely. Yeah.

But when he does, it's usually amazing. When he was on that Future song that. Ben's Friends. Ben's Friends. He's amazing on Ben's Friends. He's always complaining, which I really admire. He's always angry. He's always like, ugh, they're ghostwriting lyrics.

He's like, I'm not giving you a ride in my expensive car. Stop gold digging. It's always very angry. He doesn't want to buy an expensive car because then the dealership will sell some, and he doesn't get any of that money. It's like back to, you know, don't buy whatever Ice Cube was like because St. Ives has given in. It's just all strategy within rap.

He's always been frugal. You go back to, like, the song on Elevators where he's, like, talking about it. He's like, the guy's, like, asking for money at the mall and he starts lecturing him. He's like, I'm broke, too. Maybe that's what those, maybe the beekeeper hat with the shoulder pads and the big fluffy pants are just because he was thrift shopping. Just found them. Thrift shopping the whole time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andre 3000, the original Mackleclemore that's what he's all right so that's uh the first pick of the second round outcast aquaman i jeff it's your pick all right all right what am i you know what i'm from la i'm gonna i'm just gonna go with doggy style that is you know i'm more like and this is always the conversation to be had like what's better doggy style or the chronic again like at a certain point like it's a toss-up but i was was more partial to doggy style because i felt like it was dre's best production yeah i always thought even though the chronic is amazing i always felt like doggy style and snoop i mean snoop like if you look at the longevity of his career it's astonishing now like i mean kind of tangent but i can't believe he's still making interesting like who would have

thought that he'd be still making interesting music? It's kind of heartening. He's the one guy, I mean, you know, like, Jay-Z will still put out some music every day, you know, and like, I mean, Nas is still putting out music every now and then, but Snoop, it's been consistent. He's been dropping, like, an album almost every year or so since the early 90s. And they all have, like, four or five really good songs. Yeah.

Like, he's, and he never had to reinvent himself. he's been oh except for the snoop lion yeah which really wasn't a reinvention yeah which is like all right it's like when you you know certain nights you get way too fucked up yeah that was he was hanging out with diplo it was weird he had 15 joints instead of 12 yeah it was just like i'm a reggae person now like oh all right yeah there's he was watching like planet earth he was like i've been telling people i'm a dog this whole time meanwhile there's these lions out here they're way tougher than dogs the fuck have i been doing yeah i like never smoke weed but like sometimes when i do it's like i'll just zone out and be like everything in my life is wrong yeah why am i am I not a surfer? Like, it's some bullshit.

I should fight fires. Like, he probably just had that thing, you know, where he just had too much. I mean, if you got to experience Jamaica the way Snoop probably experienced Jamaica, I'd convert to Rastafarianism as well. I would anyway. Yeah. In general, it sounds pretty reasonable.

I'm like, honestly, like, I feel like that's the thing about... It's basically Judaism. Yeah. With weed. Yeah. Which is pretty close to's the thing about weird. It's basically Judaism. Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With weed. Yeah, which is pretty close to regular Judaism. More weed. I practiced in 2016.

More weed, a little more homophobia. Not way more. A little more than orthodox Judaism. A little more than I would care for. But, you know, like, you know, you don't want to hear what Pooju Banton has to say about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no. Just like, you're like, ugh.

Let me, yeah, no. Yeah, but, I mean, doggy style, you know, just so many, I mean, I'm just looking at the track list right now. Obviously, Gin and Juice is just perfect. Like, classic. Classic. I mean, Lottie Dottie, like, brought Slick Rick. And Slick Rick, I think, has held up almost better than any 80s rapper because he was the storytelling. I mean, and you also have the, a lot of people forget the tension of that murder case.

Yeah. Snoop was really fighting for his life and uh that was a really crazy case where his bodyguard shot this guy philip waldemarion at a park in palms which is it's interesting now living in la where you're like oh palms was there were literally crypts in the parks and palms yeah like palms like you're like might get hit by a stroller yeah yeah and then just i mean ain't no fun i've always, has there ever been a song with a more horrible message that more women have ever sang along to? No! I remember in college, every girl's favorite was Bitches Ain't Shit off of Chronic.

And I was like, it was the height of that feeling of, what are you guys, why are you so into this? I mean, to be fair, Nate Dogg can make any one. Like, Nate Dogg is my patron saint. Oh, yeah. are you so into this i mean to be fair nate dog can make anyone like nate dog is my patron saint oh yeah it's because both those beats are just unforgettably incredible if nate dog had a hook that was like fuck you ian carmel your penis is mediocre at best but nate dog sang it real smooth yeah that would be one of my favorite songs yeah i mean i just well like in the in the shiznit like that the way he just rides that doggy dog, I also love that video with the 70s kind of, like... For sure. Well, of all the albums we draft today, that might have the coolest cover art, too.

For sure, Joe Cool. Yeah. His name was Joe Cool. Joe Cool, yeah. And I remember, like, the weight for that album was excruciating, and when it came out, it all paid off. Yeah, I think it was the most first week sales of any album ever to date. Because, well, and I, Dre said he made something like

a hundred songs or something, beats or something, and they're like, we narrowed it down to these ten or twelve or whatever. Like, that's insane. Yeah. And Warren G and Daz

actually contributed a lot of the samples for that too, which is, you know, really get the credit. But I always felt like that was the best, it was the best distillation of the whole Death Row thing.

I mean, because the Chronic is just just starting off but like they really kind of hit their stride by the by doggy style yeah you know you got the lady of rage you got daz and corrupt lady of rage yeah yeah yeah classic album doggy style amazing second pick of the second round matt you want to wrap it up okay i will uh since we are going we're i love what we're going by our favorites but they're still pretty popular for for a reason i gotta go with uh common with resurrection oh yeah uh and because it's you know i feel like everybody kind of just sweats uh i used to love her because it's the metaphor and even when i first heard that song i thought it was a brilliant beautiful song but i

wasn't like oh my god it's hip it's like yeah i knew it was hip-hop halfway through man like yeah i got it but that to me is another beginning to end listenable like no ids production is just insane and i love that it's testament the fact that he's still so good that he still does beats for like kanye and yeah and like runs def jam yeah yeah right and and it's just it's one of those records i remember being on a train to philadelphia and just listening to the whole thing for the first time uh you know on headphones and just being just blown away by how how good every song was and i was a fan of common sense uh uh can i borrow a dollar his first album because he was he was just kind of like he was chicago which i loved but like he was also completely all over the place and he was like would make noises and was playful and fun but

then dan would go hard and go crazy. Like he was, you could see he had a lot of versatility in what he could do on any kind of beat. Like I remember seeing when D'Angelo's album Voodoo came out, I saw this, I saw a D'Angelo concert, one of the best concerts I've ever seen, in this random theater that's like hard to get to in Chicago. And Common runs out on stage, hammereded drunk and just starts freestyling.

And it was not only good, it was hilarious. In the middle of it, I remember he was like, Common, I gets drunk. I love when the booty go da-dunk, da-dunk. And then he just kept rapping. And it sounds the stupidest lyric, and it is, but the rest of it was amazing. And it's hard to say. But I just think he's just naturally kind of amazing. He's like a

backpacky type rapper, but he's also kind of a tough dude. He lets you know that in the songs every now and then. He never went full backpack. He did write The Bitch and You. The Bitch and You is one of the best diss songs ever. It is a good diss song. I love those ones. I mean, Ice Cube had two of the best diss songs directed

against him. That uh and cam's uh uh whoop whoop yeah i think are just like and yeah and then he and he gave it i mean no vaseline obviously yeah yes and he wrote he wrote one of the all-time arguably the all-time pretty much the whole west side connection album is just shots for no reason yeah they go on comment for no reason except for the gangsta the killing the. The dope dude was like, yeah, let's just sample Nine Inch Nails. I'm killing emo today. That's why Mac-10 was there. Big Dub C fan.

Dub C, that's it. Oh, yeah. Dub C, dude. Dub C, the only thing I really know about Dub C is a couple songs and then that video of him crip walking. That is the best crip walking. Amazing crip walking. Just clowning. Dub C.

Well, he was in low profile. And then he had Dub best crip-walker. Amazing crip-walker. Just clowning? Dubsy? That is, well, he was in Low Profile and then he had WC and the Mad Circle. I know, I know. Low Profile,

Pay Your Dues is one of the best songs. Coolio was in the original WC and the Mad Circle. Yes, he was. Coolio was? Yeah,

Coolio. God, ICP Circle member. Oh man, I gotta, when I go home I'm gonna listen to Pay Your Dues.

So good. What is your favorite movie that Common has been in? Common is at a weird – because he's almost just a full-blown actor now. The only answer is Just Right. Yeah. I haven't even seen it in a second. Just Right coming in close to second, Smokin' Aces. Smokin' Aces.

Wasn't he in Smokin' Aces? He was. He got a card thrown in his eye by Jeremy Piven. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like his best friend randomly, which I find really odd. Common and his gangster crew, they started working for this magician in Vegas. Like, why would you kill for that guy? I don't know.

Can you imagine that? Like, Criss Angel just calls up. Or David Blaine back in the 90s gets Suge Knight and the Bloods to show up and run errands for him. You're going to say fuck magicians. I'm going to say fuck magicians. I'm going to say fuck magicians. I got my phone stolen by a magician earlier this year. Justin Willman's cool.

For real. The rest of you, fuck you. Yeah, I mean, you're an accomplished thug. You've killed a few people. You can handle yourself in and out of the joint. Some magician's like,

hey, go rob a bank for me. Why would you not just shoot that magician? They're fucking evil. Disappear this, mother. That would have been a way shorter way better movie oh it just shoots piven in the head just common and credits 15 minute movie and

then it's just uh the resurrection a magician made your phone disappear yeah he no he stole it he's it was a kleptomaniac magician oh yeah no it was it was really weird it was on the right it's a long story but needless to say he uh he was acquainted from high school and he was like a blank he's like i have a story forless to say, he was an acquaintance in high school. And he was like – he's like, I have a story for you on the seedy underworld of magic. I was like, that sounds interesting. I was like, all right. I got to hear that story. Nah, he – Jack, he stole my phone and then videotaped the trick.

And then I was like, bro, I need to see your video. And he's like, I got to go to yoga class. I was like, what? And you never got your phone back? No, I confronted him, and I made up a lie. And I was like, hey, bro, the restaurant we were at has a video of you. They caught you. And he freaked out on me.

And I Googled him. He had assault charges. He was like a real rogue magician. Oh, my god. Yeah. But I still follow him on Instagram because it's fire. I'll tell you off the air. I don't want to get sued.

His Instagram is amazing. I want to know what it is. It's so funny. It's like Job in real life. OK. Like for us. Yeah, it's just like, needless to say,

this guy will not win Poof Goo for the year. What is Poof Goo for the year? You never saw Arrested Development? Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. The Magicians Alliance? Yeah. That's right.

We demand to be taken seriously. I thought for a second there was an actual Poof Goo for the year that maybe happened here at the Los Angeles Convention Center. It's actually at the Luxor. All right, fantastic.

Common. I'm going to call it a sleeper pick. Yeah. I like Common, but not, like, he's, I'm conflicted about Common. Yeah. He's great. Well, it's like, not all of his albums, as it went on, like, that, whatever, that circus of my mind. Yeah, I kind of like Electric Circus.

Yeah, I didn't really love that, But there were ones like, you know, some were good, some were bad. But to me, that album is like his opus. He's got a smooth-ass voice, too. It's his best album. Like, that album was amazing. That's common. Some of his best songs are ones you could put on

for people who aren't, like, rap fans. You know, like, with a girl. And, like, not that girls aren't rap fans, but if there's a girl who's not a rap fan, put on The Light, you know. The Light is a great – It's a good introduction to Dilla too. Yeah, absolutely.

Somebody who could rap over Dilla. The Light, Prince's favorite Common Song too. Is that true? Yeah. The Light is Prince's favorite – He called him personally. That's one of the saddest things about Prince being dead is artists won't just get a phone call at 3 a.m. and be like, this is Prince. I love this song.

I love this song. Yeah. You know that's what he did. All at 3 a.m. and be like, this is Prince. I love this song. I love this song. Yeah. Hang up. You're like, you know that's what he did. All right. So, yeah. Perfect. So that is the, that's the final pick of the second round. Okay.

And you also now have the first pick of the third round. Okay. Matt Bronger, ready to go again. All right. I'm dying inside because now I'm realizing like how, oh God, how brutally hard this is to narrow it down. All right, shit. Sophie's Choice.

Yeah, it really is. Except you still get to listen to this album. It's harder then. It's harder. You can always pick your favorite kid. Honestly, it's easier to kill one of your kids. You know what I'm saying? You're not the one doing it.

Right, exactly. Just nod at one of them and give them a wink. Yeah, the one with the strong legs. No, I meant keep him. No, she isn't. That was my fault, Nazi. I wasn't clear. I gotta go low-end theory. Low-end theory!

I'm glad you went with that. Yeah. We were in the talk earlier about midnight. A lot of people are midnight marauders. I am,auders I'm a low-end theory guy It's like neck and neck, but then low-end just pulls ahead It's just front to back incredible It's where they came into their own I love people's instinctive travels

Yeah When I started buying up all my vinyl albums again That was the first Quest album I got Because it's fun, it's all over the place Cannot Stand, Left My Wallet, Nelsongundo that's the one i always play on like the old school station you don't like left my wallet nelsegundo just always annoyed me it was obviously i haven't spent a lot of time in el segundo i think it was or left your wallet there at the the famous enchilada place i had a fruit punch um enchiladas it's either all they serve

is enchiladas or fruit punch what an odd order you can't have both it's like i had chocolate milk and a steak yeah you can't have okay uh but it was also like where fife came into his own and yes you kind of recognized how how necessary he was for the for the two of them um and i just remember that that album was one that we we just we could not shut up about his kids about like no, no, no, put this on. No, take that out. We'd just listen to it and put it back on. Yeah. And I remember, you know when you have a girlfriend that you really love but you just know she's wrong for you?

Yeah. I've mostly had that. We were playing basketball in the gym and Jazz We've Got was playing. Yeah. She's just an incredibly effervescent song. It's just like so subtle and you know that that that rolling bass line with it if you're stoned and you listen to that song your brain will float out of your head that the horn comes sailing in and i say a little

deep too like you know in terms of like the continuation of influence cyclical like they kind of you know like yeah you think about it you're like oh yeah a lot of foresight and uh my girlfriend was just like i don't know how you can listen to this. I was like, well, that's us. That's it. That's the end of us. Oh, my God. That woman has owned at least three Volvos in her life since then.

For sure. Her 30s were all Volvo years. Yeah. It's not – I kind of – I feel like that might be the last one I'll pick in this thing that's like a recognized classic. Yeah. Because I feel like – it was like I I gotta say it, but at the same time I wanted to go with it. It's not as fun to pick those albums,

but that is a completely undeniable album. If you like hip-hop at all... Scenario, just like that video, Busta Rhymes, probably top. That might be the best guest verse ever. That's what made Busta Busta. Before that, when he was in the new school, he was kind of just like oh it's kind of a grainy voice and

he's fun but then he became like a living monster like on that song seriously you're a komodo dragon yeah bugging out is ah bugging out will get it will get you out of a chair if that song comes on and you're sleeping you will wake up standing somewhere like in your living room grinding on your bookcase yeah yeah, yeah. That song is amazing. Sky Pager, best song about obsolete technology? Definitely, yeah. Yeah, definitely. Still would have a Sky Pager, honestly, for that.

Forget a sidekick. A lot of mid-2000s sidekick songs, but I'll take Sky Pager. Since we're speaking of Tribe Called Quest, which we might not get to again, if you have it, you have to watch. One of the best music documentaries I've ever seen is Beats, Rhymes, and Life,

which is all about Tribe Called Quest. Which Michael Rapaport did. Michael Rapaport made it. And that's, yeah. I was like, oh, Michael Rapaport. Yeah. Like hip-hop. Actual hip-hop aficionado, Michael Rapaport.

Huge, huge, yeah. He likes some rap music. But, yeah, I actually interviewed them, actually, around the time of – I didn't get to interview Q-Tip, of course. I think Q-Tip didn't like the way – but I thought what was so great about that film is, like, it kind of captured, like, you kind of understood everyone's side. Yeah.

There's one moment where, like, Jerobe is like, you know, we go to a city and, like, me and Fife, like, want to go to a ball game, like, you know, get a hot dog. And, like me and fife like want to go to a ball game like you know get a hot dog and like then they're like tip just wants records and like then they show like tip shopping for records and you're like yeah of course you'd be annoyed it's like yeah what the fuck am i doing all you're doing you guys are literally eating fucking cracker jack in a cubs game yeah i'm like trying to find a fucking like he's like he's a record they were all friends like in what like high school right basically most of them.

And then, I mean, if you think about all your friends who you had in high school, you all went on your different paths, but they were tied together. So one of them was a record nerd. He doesn't want to – yeah. Can you imagine just being stuck in a band with some of the people you went to high school with? Oh, my God. Oh. Yeah. It'd be like Radiohead.

Yeah. God, get me out of here. Mine would just be a bunch of other football players. I don't know what kind of music we'd make, but it would be... It'd be like 311. A lot like 311. It would be like... I saw 311 last week.

Did you? In concert. Just like at the grocery store. It was a Matiz Yahu in 311. I'm writing a long story about Matiz Yahu. Matiz Yahu in 311? Matiz Yahu is a wild man, by the way. He's got kind of hair.

I shouldn't say this, but I gave Matisse how I asked. Hopefully he doesn't listen to this on the air. I'm going to put it in the Washington Post. I feel like that's safe, though. Yeah. No, no, no, no. I Instagrammed him. I gave him a rock.

He smokes crack, for real? I gave him a gun. It can't be traced. Now all these other Jewish reggae guys are ending up dead. I gave him a nine with the... You just killed MC Paul Barman.gae guys are ending up dead. Gave him a nine with the – You just killed MC Paul Barman. MC Paul Barman is dead. I love the idea of a modesty on who MC Paul Barman rap beef.

Yeah, I named Paul Barman once the worst white rapper of all time. So the most popular post – I had to keep it up on Passion of the Wise because it was like, well – But I felt bad because it's like, you know, Paul Barman tried. It was on the internet, so you know he read it. Oh, shit. That guy lives there. How many articles does Paul Barman get in 2000? Do you have, I mean, who's the competition for worst white rapper ever?

Well, honestly, this was written in like 06, so now it would be completely different. MC Paul Barman, I don't even think would be top 10 worst. He's been surpassed so many times. Who would be the worst? Who would be the worst white rapper? Like modern ever ever ever oh i mean like we're not talking like crayshon or v nasty yeah yeah because like i would think i mean it could like uh i don't know it's a good question god most of the ones i'm gonna say little dicky i got him yeah that's my fantasy draft of worst white rappers i'm gonna going to say fuck Lil Dicky just because he made his album on the Billboard charts count as comedy.

So he has maintained that number one spot. When I put my comedy album out last year, he had the number one spot, so I didn't get to do it. And then this year, my friend Rhea Butcher just put out an album, and he's still got the number one spot. Fuck you, Lil Dicky. Pick a lane. Comedy or rapping. Can't be both. I don't remember if he was good or bad,

but it didn't matter because there was a guy, DJ Quick trotted out at one point, sorry, who called himself the funky white nigga and he was a white guy. And I was just like, are you joking?

And he referred to himself and Quick co-signed it? Yep. And he called himself, that was like his nameigned it? Yep. And he called him. That was like his name. There was a wild Blood of Abraham song with Eazy-E where it was like, I can't. It was like Kikes and N-word. Oh.

You know, that's the name of it. And Blood of Abraham's whole thing was like, we shoot rednecks. You know, they're racist. It's just like, yeah, but. They were like an arm to the teeth. You got more of an angle than that. Arm to the teeth anti-defamation league basically. Blood of Abraham.

Yeah. He signed some weird – He saw House of Pain and was like, I want my specifically ethnic white group. He signed Tari D, which was like a blonde white girl kind of. And then he – I mean he discovered Black Eyed Peas and Bone Thugs. Yeah. He discovered Black Eyed Peas? I've not even –

Yeah, they were at Band Clan. Wow. Yeah. And he like taught – like actually we ran a really good interview with Will.i.am recently about, and like, what's crazy also about Ruthless is that everyone on Ruthless does not believe that EZ really died of AIDS. What? Like no one, like bone thugs I've interviewed do not believe he died of AIDS.

Like, remember like BG Knockout and Gangsta Draca? Sure. I interviewed BG Knockout. He was on the Hodge in Saudi Arabia. He became like a Muslim in jail. And did not believe he died of AIDS. A lot of people do not believe he died of AIDS. Do they have other theories that are just like it couldn't have been AIDS?

Or if they think he did, like Suge Knight may have injected him with AIDS. There's a lot of crazy theories. Suge Knight, like on Kimmel, had talked about like, no, you don't shoot somebody, you just gotta stick them. You just stick them. Like you get them sick. Yeah. Well, that's still dying of AIDS. Even if you get injected my dad the only person that will defend shignite my dad apparently has met shignite a couple times and

every time he's like he's a really nice guy i love that he's like no he's not dad no i've met like he's got good manners like jesus fucking christ dad met him at the four seasons he's a guy he's a good guy. Gave me a cigar. Look, we were out of peanuts. He asked the bartender for more. He gave me a bunch of peanuts. Shug, you mean Marion? I met him at the UNLV, man.

Marion. I remember him. Yeah. But Shug Knight, it's interesting. I feel like hip hop is a lot of, like, altruistic villains. You know, he did a lot for, a lot for, like, you know, single mothers and, like, charities and, like, really gave a lot, but also was a ruthless murderer. Right.

So, you know. And dangled one of the worst white rappers off the side of a building. But how much would – again, Vanilla Ice, so much better than Little Dick. Yes. So much better. So much better. I loved Chuck D's thing about Vanilla Ice. He was like, a white boy who can dance like that?

Yo. That was it. That was his little quote about him. He's just like, come on, man. Look at him. Yo! Jim Carrey. Like, that was, like, you need, like, an unlimited color of Chappelle now.

Like, the Jim Carrey, like, he got it so, and he also gave it to Snow, who is a pretty, like, fairly decent white, you know. Yeah. Like, Snow went to jail and had MC Shan. Like, and Snow got it. For sure you know it's no part yeah all right so it's a little dicky all right if little dicky if there's any in any way if you hear this you can come on the podcast and draft worst comedians yeah or writers and you know like uh you should have you should have this like on the podcast where there's an aside where you drafts the worst of something.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? One quick round. One quick round. That's a good idea. One of each. One of each. You're hearing this podcast come together in real time with Bill Maher.

Yeah. I'm going to steal that idea and never pay you for it. That's fine. All right, fantastic. Okay. I'll bring you a fun zucchini bread. I'm a terrible negotiator. Done.

And give me your watch, by the way. All right. Shit. Thank you. All right. It's a podcast. They don't know. He didn. And give me a watch, by the way. All right. Shit. Thank you. All right. It's a podcast. They don't know. He didn't actually give me his watch.

We're good friends. All right. That's the first pick of the third round. Matt Bronger goes with A Tribe Called Quest, The Low End Theory. Easily the second best album cover in this draft so far. And Jeff, it's on you. All right. Because we are on the 20th anniversary of his death.

It'll be around the time when this comes out, I imagine. I'm going to do All Eyes on Me by Tupac. All Eyes on Me. You know,

you can't have Biggie without Tupac, and I feel like I had a lot of phases with Tupac when he was alive. At first, I remember

Brenda's Got a Baby. It was one of the first rap songs I remember hearing. I remember just being like, chill. I'd never been so sad from a song, you know, like you know dumping her baby in the dumpster yeah a harrowing song you know then i got around like blows up he becomes you know i remember

same song kind of vaguely and like that kind of fuzz but then like all eyes on me i feel like he first of all it's the the greatest post-jail album ever and like that you know that's its own like a little canon and rap now and unfortunately you know and but like has anyone i don't know if anyone's ever he might have been angrier on the machiavelli album but there's no more raw fury album than i think all eyes on me and i mean again like like like life after death it kind of has everything you know like he has weird like posse cuts with, like, Rappin' Forte and, like, C-Bo and E-40. And then, I mean, he has George Clinton, Can't See Me, obviously California Love.

I love that song. It needs to be, like, the national anthem of California, the state anthem of California. Like, who knows? Does anyone know the state anthem of California? I imagine it's, like, some... It's probably a Beach Boys song. Yeah. Yeah.

Some good vibrations, you know? I mean, just, there's... I don't't know i feel like tupac at that point like everyone has a different like favorite you know the brilliance of tupac is that there is a different tupac album like you can use he's like one of those people you can interpret him any way you want you can yeah you can you can see him as a tupacalypse now the kind of the revolutionary type you know there's a lot of east coast songs in the second one me against the world is like the ultimate like paranoid in fear you know going to jail and all eyes on me i mean every song i mean not every song is perfect i mean the scandal you even scandal's not the best

song but it doesn't hate dog yeah uh this is a dollar there's a double album too right all america's most wanted yeah of the amazing song song. And then you have, like, you know, Tupac, I feel like he has a song like Life Goes On or I Ain't Mad at You, which are, like, kind of a little, like, overly sentimental, maybe. But at the same time, like, they do just hit you in this weird kind of, like, maybe you're drunk, you know, like, late night. And, like, as you get older, I feel like, too, it's amazing that he wrote all the stuff by the time he was like 23 24 yeah that's what blows my mind just to have that kind of emotional depth and kind of just power of his music you know you could still play ambitions as a writer at any point and people will go that'd be nuts the album starts on that yeah oh it's amazing action bronson's favorite song emissions as a writer yeah that's good to know that's good

to i remember reading that hardest rap song i mean or hit him up which is also the hardest i still would say ambitious of a ride it's like yeah it's that beat it's almost like industrial he's like rapping over like an industrial beat it's it's fucking tough that's the thing i've always been i mean you had to pick which is even in beaverton oregon growing up they were are you a tupac or a biggie guy like anyone can give a fuck what a bunch of like chubby middle schoolers thought about that kind of thing. I was always a Biggie guy. But this, I mean, I think it's Tupac's best album. Well, there's a reason why.

It's a laser beam, man. Because they were of the same era and all this stuff, and they were definitely the two best of that era. But they were also, we talked about how just incredibly smart and incredibly in tune emotionally with how to put a song together. Yeah. Like, nobody could really do what they do you can't nobody can get get a perspective across and a mood like those guys would you know especially tupac specifically yeah it's interesting like i feel like biggie's obviously held up in many ways but tupac has kind of become like this international icon like if you go to sub-saharan africa like there is tupac murals

like everywhere like you buy tupac like paintings that like so you know in all over all over the world tupac is i mean he became the jim morrison of rap and i think it's because he looked better shirtless yeah that's a big way that's a huge part of it yeah the iconography is just that is true though you know he was doing the jesus thing i mean like he got had like like a jesus huge jesus tattoo like right on him. Right. Like, multiple ones. Toughest dude with a nose ring probably ever.

Ever. Little B, probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember Little B. Yeah. It's like Tupac or, like, Hannibal. Like, the original Hannibal. Not Burns.

Who rode the elephants across the Alps. Hannibal of the Punic Wars. Yeah, the Punic War Hannibal. The much more hardworking one. Way. Than the Hannibal I started out doing comedy with. No offense to him. Well, I mean, you can't compare yourself to him.

Not the Hannibal. Hannibal's lazy. But on the elephants, that's tough shit. He got them across the Alps. Yeah. There's far more evidence of that. This is now turning into a Hannibal crossing the Alps podcast. Top five favorite military commanders from the river.

From the BC air That's episode two The listeners who were brought in by the first one Very confused I mean you can't go wrong with all eyes on me Kevin Durant got the Tupac tattoo On his leg recently Not the biggie one

We won't get into basketball Guy goes to bay area once yeah well yeah it goes to bear yeah now he's into the uh the two what do you think tupac would be doing now is one of my favorite things to think about i thought this many times and the answer is always evil will smith evil wow he's always evil and there's the jada pinkett thing which is really fascinating because jada pinkett was tupac's best friend in baltimore yeah they went to art school yeah more together and they were best friends and i i was remember reading something i think it was actually shut up ben west up he's a new book actually out that kind of talks about all the west coast hip hip hop

hip history and i guess apparently they kissed once and it was just like real weird like never again that's funny like nope not that is not the thing just one of those check in the oil didn't work but at the same time would you want your wife to be best friends with tupac i certainly wouldn't no no no you know no you she would deny it up and down and you'd always wonder you'd always be like but then your party you gotta be like well it's tupac he gets to fuck everybody yeah with those abs are you you almost couldn't even be mad at it no you know that experience you'd be like hey i'm asking my buddies at tupac yeah yeah yeah you know which was you know Tupac fucked my wife? Yeah.

To your friends? No, I swear to God. I just read LL Cool J's autobiography actually randomly. It was from 97, so it's very dated, which makes it even better. That's great. And I didn't know he dated Kadada Jones. It was Tupac's fiancée at the time of his death. Oh, really?

Quincy Jones' daughter. Yeah, Rashida Jones' sister. Yeah. And yeah, so they were actually eskimo brothers and there's like actually tupac which is amazing because tupac had originally dissed quincy jones for dating white women yeah publicly oh my god i forgot about that yeah and then he dated his daughter and apparently there's a great story like where quincy jones comes up to him at the jerry's deli that used to be on uh like beverly boulevard and like comes up to him behind him at the booth and

like puts his hands on his shoulder and he's there with his daughter and he's like, hey Tupac, can we have a conversation? Wow. Tupac was so charming that he became like he loved Quincy Jones.

And then Tupac and Quincy had sex. Yeah. What can you do with those asses? I didn't see that ending coming at all. Right there at the Jerry's Deli

and everyone was fine with it. They're just watching two geniuses go at it. Oh, they're famous. Yeah. Just have ai. And everyone's fine with it. They're just watching two geniuses go at it. Oh, they're famous. Just have a pickle play. It's fine. All right. All Eyes on Me.

Take third round. We made it to the third round where the low in theory and All Eyes on Me before them. The 90s, good time for hip hop. It's my pick. I'm going to round out the third round. And I'm going to go with the Fugees, the score. Okay. That's my pick.

It might not be as well-respected now. I have no idea how the Fugees – I just wrote a long piece, actually, about it. Was it fake? No, I love the score. Hell yeah. I made the right pick there. It's an incredible album.

There's some corny songs on there, for sure. Wyclef's cover of No Woman, No Cry doesn't need to exist anywhere. But then, I mean, just Lauryn Hill. I mean, I love the Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, also a 90s album. Yeah. But she was like a god MC. She was one of the best rappers alive at that point. I mean, she had to be.

You guys didn't like Praz the best? Big Praz guy. That's pretty cool. Praz, if you're listening, I always appreciate it. Only his film work. Yeah. Praz isn't Praz's favorite rapper. But Praz fills the Fife role well, I think, in terms of, look, no one wants to hear your

solo record, like your voice as a musical instrument your voice is cool as hell yeah super baritone super baritone yeah got a little tremolo in there

got it moving definitely a classic definitely the worst skit ever with the Chinese food there's terrible you're like did not age well

that is some 90s racism that is the Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's of rap sketches I remember we couldn't play anything if we were. I remember we couldn't play anything. If we were at a party, we couldn't play anything but the Killing Me Softly cover. If there were girls.

Like, girls would say, no, put it on again. Yeah. It's like, we just heard it twice. Can we have something? Like, no. Like, the drunker they'd get. Like, another girl would show up that just got there. She hadn't heard it yet.

Oh, Fugees. They thought that was the one song on the you know that's it that was it was like a casino they're genius right like i mean they they kind of they figured out how to get like both sides you know what i mean you could play like a song like ready or not is you know like and yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean uh uh lauren it was like not only a the rapper, like beautiful singing voice. Beautiful singing voice. I mean, she might be one of the most talented people to ever come through rap music.

Yeah, and like you have a guy like Drake who's like, oh, I invented. You're 40. He's like, whoever did that? You're like, Lauren Hill. Lauren Hill. Yeah. Like Lauren Hill was the best rapper and one of the best singers. And she was in like Sister Act 2 before all that shit.

Yeah. You know, she was like acting in movies too. And it's funny, it's like Drake, you really notice it. Drake, you're kind of like, oh, all right, you're just singing this whole song.

All right, Drake. Yeah. You know, with Lauren, like it never crossed your mind. You're like, oh, what a lovely voice. Go ahead and sing. She could have just been

an R&B singer. I mean, like on, like, I mean, X Factor and some other, the other songs that were on, you know, her later albums are like amazing. Oh, X Factor is such a good song.

We were just complaining about how it took four or five years for Frank Ocean to put out his next album. Meanwhile, we have people like Andre 3000 and Lauryn Hill who go ages between albums. That's what we should really be complaining about. Fuji La, one of my favorite songs of all time. I think all three of them crushed it on that song I liked I always liked Cowboys

and The Score which were like I loved Cowboys yeah yeah good song I mean like and also like

they had the kind of underground New Jersey vibe with the Outsiders coming who later became like a kind of big underground rap group uh you know

they had the Diamond D I guess Diamond D hated working on that album it was like this is a horrible expense well yeah I think like at the time you're like alright White Gloves having an affair with like Lauryn Hill the entire time You know, they had the Diamond D. I guess Diamond D hated working on that album. It was like, this is a horrible experience. Well, yeah, I think, like, at the time, you're like, all right, Wyclef's having an affair with, like,

Lauren Hill the entire time. They're, like, in this, like, cramped basement in the middle of Newark. Diamond D's like, get me back. Yeah. You know, like, get me out of here. Diamond D's so good. Yeah, it's incredible. Weird tension in the room.

Definitely produced the song for Dana Barrow, so we'll be right. Did he really? Yeah, he did. It was Basketball's best kept secret album have you ever heard that album no oh man

well Stunt Blunts and Hip Hop one of the best albums well I'm glad to say it's not on my list but it almost made it yeah so good

he's got a one track mind man back in the day that's that shit yeah yeah so good who's it wait who's it Diamond D

Diamond D also the most Jewish so we went back to it most Jewish name for a rap group ever Diamond in the psychotic neurotics diamond d i think they meet at jerry's deli now paul barman was in it yeah that's where they go have sex yeah fuck okay so that's the that's the end of the third round i ran it out with uh

fujis uh the score so the first i also get the first pick of the fourth round. There you go. And what I'm going to do with the first pick of the fourth round, give me one second here. I got to... I'm going Dr. Dre,

but I'm going with 2001. Oh, interesting. Which actually came out... It was an 1999 album. It actually came out in 1999. Yep. Thank you, Suge Knight. Just under the cusp.

Sweet loophole. Sweet loophole. Sweet loophole. Named 2001. It's one of, I mean, you can't separate, I think, your experience with albums from when you got into them in your life. And that song, that album I got into right when I was first able to drive. So I would just blast the Chronic 2001 everywhere I went. Like, I think, like, ruined the speakers and the car that my mom bought me. Shout out Sue Carmel.

But there's so many good – I mean at one point somebody gets accused of looking like AC Green, which I really like. Yep, yeah. On Big Egos with feet like Ben Vereen. I mean that's just a great diss. And sung no less. Sung. You look, no less. Sung. You look like AC Green.

Bitch, don't call here anymore. So, yeah. And then, I mean. Speaking of bad, you get the Paws for Porno sketch. Yeah. Another terrible sketch. Can rappers stop assuming we want to hear them getting their dick sucked or like fucking? That was definitely a very Dre.

That was a very Dre thing, though. Like everyone, it's like, it was like, do you ever hear the Firm album? Yes. That was the most homoerotic dialogue ever. It's the song called Nas Is Coming. Yeah. And it's like, if you ever listen to it, it's like, Dre's like, what's up, Nas? And you're like, whoa, okay.

This song is called Nas Is Coming. There had to be a better way you could have phrased that Nas' latest release something like that yeah make a housewife on that album which is always kind of hilarious but it's got I mean it's just full of fucking bangers 2001 I mean like

still DRE explosive what's the difference exhibit on what's the Difference? Yeah. That's my favorite Exhibit song, I think, is him on What's the Difference? Did you think he was being dissed on that song? On What's the Difference? On What's the Difference.

They thought it was the difference between Dre and Quick? That's what Quick took it personally, yeah. I think a perm is the difference between Dre and Quick for the most part, right? One of the greatest perms. One of the greatest perms. One of the greatest perms. Not exactly as good as Drew Downs. Oh, Drew Downs. Drew Downs had the best perm in the business.

And another one of my favorite songs ever is on some LA, and I'm not going to finish it, but Doctor, it's like a total LA like posse track, Dre, Hitman, Nocturnal. Hitman. Yeah. You know, it's like, I always felt that was one of the worst things. It was the one where he's like, LA like Posse track Dre Hitman Nocturnal Hitman Yeah You know it's like

I always felt that was One of the worst things It was like Unfuck you Where he was an amazing Devin the Dude One of Devin the Dude's Greatest songs

Yeah But it's like He's like You let Melman hit it And Hitman hit it Damn bitches You're like how bad Must that feel

To be Melman or Hitman Just to be the exact Yeah You even let Hitman hit it Hey Hey It's like the lumber As they're recording must that field could be Melman or Hitman? Just to be the exact, yeah. You even let Hitman hit it? Ugh. Hey, hey. It's like the lumber. As they're recording it,

Melman's coming out of the bathroom just flushing like, wait, what? What'd I hear something? What are you guys talking about? No, nothing, Melman, nothing. It's cool. Keep that take.

Yeah. Keep that take. Melman's in the bathroom. Quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. The indifferent white engineer. Got it. No problem, Mr. Dre. You got it. Quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. The indifferent white engineer. Got it. No problem, Mr. Dre.

You got it. Oh, man. But that song was one of the ones, like, when I moved to L.A., I was like, it's going to be okay. Listen to this song. You're going to go be part of this. That's why I assumed I'd move here and immediately fall in. Sure. With, you know, at least the lunch mob. But, yeah, so Chronic 2001.

I mean, Eminem's great on it. Yeah, not the Eminem's greatest rapping performance. Eminem, by the way, quick tangent, because I don't know if we're going to talk about him again. One of my favorite guest verse rappers, and I don't, I'm not a huge fan of just Eminem songs. No one has aged

worse than Eminem. It's a joke. I mean, although I will say, I did consider, I wrote down the Slim Shady LP because that was amazing, and that EP he put out before. Yeah. Slim Shady EP was amazing. But the homophobia has aged really poorly. Really bad. The jokes are not, like, it's like, okay, you're making fun of the Backstreet Boys

and NSYNC. Ouch. Yeah. Zinger. Tough target. He was like the this isn't even fair to who I'm going to compare him to, but he's like the South Park of rappers. You know? Like who didn't, and South Park has aged way better. But like at the time, Eminem equals South Park to me in my head for some reason. Yeah, that makes sense.

He almost was like so good at, this is going to sound really bad, but like so good at hip hop, it was almost like he was one of those autistic kids who can like count how many cards have dropped on the floor oh yeah he can't not rap incredibly

but the content who knows where it's going to go right will a song be good but it's like he's undeniably you know just in terms of writing lyrics yeah

like the best one of the best well I mean like the way he does even now the way he does syllables I'll say has anyone in the history of rap ever had the best well I mean like the way he does like even now it's like the way he does syllables I'll say has anyone

in the history of rap ever had less fun like I feel like I'd rather be at a party with Razzcast than Eminem like Razzcast will sit me in the corner

and be like do you know what your ancestors did I'm like I don't know they're doing it but Razzcast will party you know what I mean give me that blunt

like Eminem's like give me all your pills in the cabinet. No. Rask hasn't get drunk and be like, now here's a fun story about caucasoids. Yeah, I've never really thought about that, but there's very little joy in his music.

Never had fun. It's like this. Yeah, the my fault song, or like it ain't my fault song. Like, all right, cool. You went to a rave. You gave a girl mushrooms. Oh, and it ended terribly.

It always does. You know, ever since I heard of an Eminem story, we're like, yeah, it ended pretty well. There's never a fun one where it ends with him making breakfast for everybody. No. And then I serve Faygo at breakfast. Yeah. You're like, no.

For me, Eminem, a better spice than a main dish, and he's the perfect spice on this Chronic 2001 album. And, I mean, you had a great production from Dre, and then all the raps was written. Scott Storch. Scott Storch, too. Early Scott Storch. And Jay-Z and Eminem wrote everything. So it's like, you know, for Dr. Dre, actually pretty good rapping.

Must have paid for Scott Storch's yacht, Storch of Ellie. Storch of Ellie is the name of his yacht? He got foreclosed. And his big marble house on Miami Beach. It looks like a Roman temple. I wonder if whatever bank ended up with Scott Storch's yacht kept the name Storch of Ellie. I'd hope so. I hope so, too.

Just some guy named Alan. Some 56-year-old guy named Alan on Storch of Ellie. Who can afford that boat exactly, but not to modify it at all. Shit. I have exactly $300 million. Storchavelli. What does that even mean? Do you want it or not, Mr. Fisher?

Alan Fisher, owner of Storchavelli. So that's my pick. First one for the fourth round, Chronic 2001. Jeff, you're up. I'm going to go with Redman Muddy Waters. Wow. I'm going to go with Redman Muddy Waters. Wow! I'm going to go with Redman Muddy Waters because I feel like that one is one that's bound to be slipped under the radar. And Redman,

one of those, like, it's interesting, you know, like, I feel like you have the most underrated, like, I just tweeted the other day, Mystical's the most underrated rapper of all time. I love Mystical. Amazing. I don't love Problematic. No, God. Yeah, that's the problem with rap it's like if you really think about like how many of your favorite rappers have done pretty

unconscionable things like a lot of them not paul barman paul barman not many worse than mystical unfortunately but red man is always the one that people say i always say he's not really that underrated eminem did list him on the most popular album of all time as one of his favorite rappers it's like jadakiss jadakississ is not underrated at all. But Muddy Waters to me is the perfect red. I mean, his first three albums are classics. I almost did What, the album. It's amazing. I love

Muddy Waters just because it's like, I mean, I smoked a lot of weed. I smoked a lot of marijuana. Redman, it goes well. It goes well. It pairs nicely. It pairs nicely. Yeah. He pairs nicely. I mean, and like just so many great songs

in this album. This is probably, you know, a lot of people would say EPMD, but I would say this might be the height of Eric Sermon's production in this album.

I mean, Pick It Up, the best song ever about finding things on the floor. Yeah. Definitely. It's a tight competition. Yeah.

You're like, I found things after a festival. That's what you want to hear. You're like, I just found a bag of Molly. Pick It Up, tight competition. Yeah. You're like, I found things. Like, after a festival, that's what you want to hear. You're like, I just found a bag of Molly. Pick it up, you know? Yeah. Red Man. Just so funny and subtly creative.

Yeah. One of the most psychedelic rappers, I think, ever. Maybe the best Cribs episode of all time. Easily. Easily the best. Red Man's Cribs is the best. I'd say tie between him and Master P. Opposite ends of the spectrum.

Totally, yeah. Was Redman really living in just like a duplex though in New Jersey with a doorbell that didn't work? That had to be one of a couple places he lived, right? I think that might have been the place that he grew up in that his mom was still living there or he bought it out or something.

But it's amazing that he never said that. this is where i live here's here's my ps2 yeah you know playing the controller at the tv at the camera yeah and yeah if i mean there may be some people listening to this who aren't who only maybe know red man from like red meth and stuff like that yeah what are some good red man tracks that people should listen to to get into red man i, pick it up. I would say Whatever Man is an amazing song. And those videos at the time,

I always liked, Rock the Spot was really good. I think if you want to get charged up, Time for Some Action is like a just classic. I'm going to kick the door off your car to get inside your car. I would also say the Ooh song that he did with De La Soul.

Yeah. Ooh. Bang, bang. Yeah. He's great on that. Yeah. That is a classic. Yeah.

Fuck, I haven't thought about that song in a decade. Yeah. I'm listening to that four times tonight. All right. Also, yeah, Redman just like, I mean, like just a cool, like, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like the idea of like an everyman rapper is kind of stupid. Usually an everyman rapper is kind of synonymous with boring. But Redman, like, you're like, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like the idea of, like, an everyman rapper is kind of stupid. Usually an everyman rapper is kind of synonymous with boring. But Redman, like, you're like, that's who I want to smoke weed with.

Yeah. You know, it's like I always – they wrote something once. It was like, you know, like, when you read a book, you're like – you want to, like, have a conversation with the rapper. Like, when you listen to, like, a good rapper, you're like, I want to smoke weed with that guy. And, like, I feel like Redman was, like, the platoon I got to help you. Like, that guy. You get high with him, he will make being bored fun. The anti-M&M.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Having fun all the time. He was always laughing. Yeah. Classic. You've talked me into it. I wasn't so sure, but now I'm fully in on Redman.

All right. So that's your pick of the fourth round. Redman, Muddy Waters, Bronger. You want to wrap up the fourth round? I'm going to go and vote with my heart this time. People might not think of this as a classic, but it's been a Dr. Dre heavy day, but I'm going with Living Like Hustlers by Above the Law. That's a great pick.

That is some of the best beats I've ever heard in my life. This is still back when he was coming off of No One Can Do It Better, DOC, which is, I won't say my favorite. Maybe if I was pressed pressed still my favorite era of Dr. J production, where he was just still, you know, arguably dipping his toes into hip hop back from, you know, NWA to DOC to, to, and, but like that whole album is, is, you know, great lyrics, you know, one 87 in, uh, uh, I forget the other guy's name. You know, 187 in, I forget the other guy's name.

The KMG, The Illustrator. Thank you. Great. Back and forth. You know, probably if I had to pick a duo from that era, I'd still go with EPMD. But, like, that album, Front to Back, was just great because it was just like, just listening to people casually talking about how they're criminals and how they get away with it and various scenarios. And, like, there's no better opening to a rap album than murder rap to me right there just that yep yep

that just comes in oh that's so insane now i got a murder rap yeah one of the hardest rap albums hardest yeah it's incredible and it's got the it's got the the last song that has everybody on it has doc on it and yeah it's like a that's the kind of song back when you always had a posse cut at the end yeah you know like doc uh had a grand finale and then they had the last song yeah murder rap will want to make you break windows for no reason for sure that's that kind of it makes you feel like you're an angel dust above the law i mean above all just that danny brown once said about black superman which is a little later but he was like if you hear that song at a club, get the fuck out of there. Yeah. Like something is about to go down.

And used really well in the OJ TV show. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to the OJ. Shout out to the woman who played Marsha Clark. What's her name again? I forget. She's great.

I'm blowing it. I think Emmy nominee. Swims took all the attention. Wherever she is, good for her. Whatever she's doing. Travolta, Sean O'Connor said, I don't think he'd mind me saying this, I think he tweeted it, he said that John Travolta looked like a gay outer space cat.

And like acted, not looked like, but like acted, that's what he was channeling. That's funny. Everybody else was trying to play the character as they were, and Travolta was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going a different direction with this. That's what he was channeling. That's funny. Everybody else was trying to play the character as they were, and Travolta was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going a different direction with this. That's fantastic. But yeah, if people can find that album, buy it.

You'll love it. Yeah. You'll love it. We used to drive. When the first of my friends to get a driver's license, we'd all go in the, just sit in the back of his pickup and drive around downtown Portland blaring that album, sliding around. We're sitting on Taco Bell trays.

Yeah. Like those fast food trays. Yeah, yeah. And just sliding around. Just risking death at every turn, like as he just take hard rights and lefts. Just listening to that music, seeking any damage you could find. I don't know how, like how there was no cop attention. I don't know, But it was great.

That's amazing. That's the kind of music with stuff like that. You don't have to be an actual criminal. Let's say you have a mousetrap and a rat gets caught in it. And you're like, God, I got to kill this rat. It's stuck. Put on murder rap. Put on murder rap.

You'll stomp it without thinking. You got it. Cold-blooded. Yep. Fantastic. All right. So that's a great pick. You're up again. You also have, that's the final pick

of the fourth round. And now you're up with your final pick. Okay. The first pick of the fifth round. Okay. This is the last round, right? This is the last round. There's some gems on the board still. Oh my god. So tough. Well, I gotta go because it was such a big album for me.

It was Bizarre Ride, The Far Side. Yeah, yeah. Because it's just, it's like, the production was so dissimilar, I found, from song to song. But every song was great. Like, there's no bad song on there. And they were, like, just out of their heads crazy and stoned and but like put together really good songs and each one of them was a very different rapper but very good rapper you know yeah like i i wish they were still making music as a collective

i wish kind of you know they hate each other yeah i know they really hate i know and that's sad but they were they were kind of the natural extension of that whole Native Tongues thing that was coming out of New York. But completely West Coast. Like the West Coast version of it. So LA. So West Coast. That's what I loved about it. Yeah, like even Other Fish.

Just a great song about trying to get over somebody. Pass Me By, obviously, when you're in love with someone and they don't know who you are. It's an amazing song. Pass Me By. Your Mama. Your Mama. great mama is a fantastic song that's like playground song like ever you know past the pipe is like one of the best weed songs i think because it's just it just degenerates it just goes crazier and crazier and crazier who else would like have a song about like picking up like transvestites? Yeah, accidentally. Only Fatlip, who would visit it again later. Eddie Murphy.

I mean, yeah, good skits, actually, on that one. Quentin's on his way. That was the drug dealer. He had his album. Jay Swift signed him, and then he had an album, but I don't think it ever came out. But I actually have a friend who's doing the 33 and a third on uh on that album which is amazing and he goes to me he's like pick my brain about it and I go you want to know the real truth is find Quentin I bet you Quentin has stories yeah wow the drug dealer always has stories you know

he's around he's like the the moth on the wall yeah yeah you always want him there like he was the weed guy and they were the first rap group to actually find a way to do that uh Thelonious Monk song as a song. Quentin's on his way. What is that? Honeysuckle Rose? Rapping over Thelonious Monk. An unsampleable artist for the most part.

Kanye's favorite album, actually. Kanye said it was his favorite album. Oh, really? It was R-Rite. Yeah. It makes sense because that – I mean, kind of like if you think about 92, I mean, obviously you have Freestyle Fellowship going to The Good Life. Yeah. They really broke the mold for like of L.A. gangster rappers.

And it was interesting because I feel like everyone wanted to make it into a pioneer. Oh, you're a gangster. You're the far side. But it's like, you know, these guys grew up in the hood in South Central. Right. They were living that – they ended up getting ensnared worse than anybody with drugs. Yeah. Yeah.

But it was interesting, and I feel like that album – yeah, I mean, the storytelling on that album, Officer. Yeah. It's really all on there. And, like, they were rioting. And apparently, like, that was how they actually, the start of their breakup came because they went rioting during the riots. And, like, they were in this horrible old van. And it just stopped. Like, it just, the cops came.

And it just stopped. And everyone gets out of the van except Jay Swift. And they took him to jail. And then he showed up, like, a few days later at the sessions. And there was tension about who was producing what. They brought in somebody else to finish the album. And it was the beginning of the end right there. Holy shit.

That was it. Lab Cabin California is also a great album. Great album. I mean, they got two great ones. But I think Bizarre Ride is still an all-time classic. It was on the list for sure. Fat Lip, who was in the far side later on, that song What's Up Fat Lip, which I think is such a good song. Yeah.

If you want like the anti-Bragadaccio, which is all about being like a shitty person who nobody likes. Just like, I'm a total loser. A thing no rapper will honestly say. And he gives concrete examples of how much of a loser he is. Compelling case. You're like, hey, fuck you, fat lip, a little bit. Yeah. But also fuck you to the fat lip who lives within each of us.

Yeah. That's really what that song is. So that, Bizarre Ride to the Far Side, that's your fifth pick. That's my fifth. Fantastic fucking pick. Thank you. Jeff, we're on to you. Your last pick.

All right. Well, see, I was originally going to go with Sugarfree's Street Gospel. But, you know, there's... And then I was like, we've got to have a Wu-Tang thing. Yes.

And I was going to be remiss if I didn't say it. And then you're like, all right, well, you've got four real choices for the Wu-Tang album. You have, obviously, the first Wu-Tang.

Actually, you could say Wu-Tang Forever, which would be an interesting pick, too. Yeah. But probably another 36 would be the one. Or then you have, obviously, Liquid Swords. Incredible.

Yeah. Your Ghostfacers album. You know, a safe pick, but it has to be on there. It's only built for Cuban links. It has to be on there. Yeah. I think. And, I mean, we talk about duos.

I mean, was there ever a better duo than Ghostfacers? I mean, and maybe trios, because Capadonna's kind of... Capadonna kind of killed it on... but i mean only built for i mean obviously it kind of i don't know if it invents the mafioso rap but it certainly perfects it yeah you know the slang on it it's its own i think i you know i think i once compared supreme clientele to like ulysses of rap but like it kind of starts there where they have its own i mean no one had ever had a language i don't think like that before right and it's like a labyrinth you know that i'm just the more you listen to it goes deeper i mean and then you have ice cream which is amazing and uh i don't know i just i just

remember like being a kid and just being like i got the purple tape and like it was a funny random story i was like at a fucking club met of all places. And like, we went, like, we're like hanging out and like, I had the boom box. So like back when like people had to bring boom box, you know? And like, there were these two guys, like they were like the doc and like this, like this white dude and this black dude with an Afro. And they were like maybe 18, 19. And like, I thought they were super cool. We have this crazy party in the room.

They come by, they bring their cassette tapes. They leave too. It's Craig Mack project funk the World and the purple tape. And obviously, Craig Mack Project Funk the World is the better of the two. You know, he wouldn't be around next year

and he, I'm joking. Waiting for that one. But, yeah, I mean, I mean, if you said,

it's like one of those albums like if you said that Only Bill For Human Links is the best album of all time, you couldn't necessarily contradict it. it's like one of those albums, if you said Only Built for Humor, this is the best album of all time, you couldn't necessarily contradict it. It's a hard one to fight against. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you consider all the things. There's a lot of albums that I feel like get to 100, and they get to it in different ways,

and that's definitely one of the ones that gets to 100. Yeah, I mean, the term, the word built is in it. It's such a well-built album. I think about 36 Chambers chambers is the obvious choice but you also kind of go well but it's a lot of guys yeah it's like with everybody with their own different viewpoints just like that and the beats are great but like everything on on only built is just like unbelievable only only method gets his own like song on there too yeah yeah we talked about nas i mean verbal intercourse might be maybe the best Nas verse of that era yeah

you know amazing and had a lot of great ones I mean Glacier's Vice I mean it just goes on like when it was just it just

we were talking about like setting a mood like you mentioned All Eyes on Me like that album that album was scary as shit yeah that album just

puts you on edge you know the killer the John Woo kind of yeah the samples from the killer for sure it feels like being in New York lost in a neighborhood that you're not supposed to be in.

And Rizzo goes, that was the summer album. Yeah. They were, like, Liquid Source was the winter album. Jesus Christ. Amazing. Fucking. I'm not going to pick Into the 36, even though it's an amazing album, so we can talk about Wu-Tang Clan just in general a little bit. Who do you, I mean,

who do you think has had the best career coming out of it? I gotta go with Ghostface. Ghostface. Yeah. He's probably not my favorite album. You mean like, but Just Rap, we're just talking Just Rap. Just Rap, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I would say Ghostface. It's gotta be Ghostface, right? Of all the stuff he's put out. And you would never have guessed it, I don't think it, I mean,

I think he's just gotten out of jail, like, when Enter the 36, so I don't think he's like, he I think he's just gotten out of jail, like, when Enter the 36th. So I don't think he's – like, he's on it a little – or that might be Mastila. But he had just gotten – that was the rumor that he was wearing the ghost face to hide. You would have picked Method. Most people, I think, coming out of that album. He was the marquee star. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, he had the look and he was, like, in an incredibly unique style and everything. Just fucking cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unquantifiable cool. Right. Yeah, before everyone blossomed into the genius and everything. Just fucking cool. Yeah. Unquantifiable cool. Right. Before everyone blossomed into the geniuses they were going to become.

Yeah. Cool lives early. Yeah. Great pick. Thank you. Fantastic pick. Not original but had to be done.

With it, mine's, I will, okay, I'm going to pick probably one that I'm not even that sure about.

I'm picking it half because I really enjoy this album, half because I just kind of want to talk about it, and it's a ridiculous album. My fifth pick and the final pick of the draft is 1997's Puff Daddy's No Way Out. Oh, great album. I feel wrong picking a Puff Daddy album, but Victory is a fucking – Yeah. Victory is a fucking – all about the Benjamins is on there.

Yeah, Benjamins. There's a few – Senorita. Senorita. There's a few just a few Puff Daddy. Senorita, I mean, he went on to date Jennifer Lopez, so that song became prophetic, you know, at the time. Young G's was an amazing album. Is that the one with Jay-Z and Biggie, right?

Yeah. Incredible song. And it's just bombastic and decadent. The video for Victory was one of those, like, they'd show it on pop-up video and it was like this thing cost 8 million dollars and like Dennis Hopper and Danny DeVito were in it. You know they're filming in like underground expensive hotel swimming pools and shit like Busta Rhymes

plays a gargoyle basically. Busta Rhymes in that it's some weird like the video's like the running man and Puff Daddy's running away from people who are hunting him the most dangerous game. And for some reason, Busta Rhymes is just a gargoyle in a big furry, feathery, Andre 3000-looking jacket just wrapping off the side of a building with a rainstorm happening behind him. I was sold after that. Sure.

Hook, line, and sinker. Sure. It's crazy. A friend of mine actually, he's working for a company and it's like an app and they have a new technology where you can put yourself in any music video. And I was at like a festival and like a bunch of music writers were talking they're like well what would you do and i was like oh definitely the been around the world video like that's where i want to be i have just landed in the middle of the arabian desert there's a bunch of sheiks around me and i'm with puffy and mace like great yeah everyone's

like is this puff daddy and you're like yeah of course it's Puff Daddy. Puff Daddy? Puff Daddy? That's on that album too, right? No Way Out? Yeah. There's a good song with Black Rob. Second Black Rob shout out. Yeah. I mean, he was supposed to sound like Biggie, I think. And he sounds a little bit like Biggie on that track.

Yeah, I just fucking enjoy that album. I mean, it's definitely, I don't think any critic would say it's one of the 15 best rap albums of the 90s. Yeah, I'll be missing you. I'll be missing you too. Yeah, I mean – It's a weird – it's – one way to listen to it is like I bet a lot of these tracks were supposed to have Biggie on them. For sure. And the production, it's like fuck.

I mean, he wrote a lot of them obviously. Yeah. You can tell his rhyme scheme. His rhyme scheme. Yeah, absolutely. And you know that like Biggie would have killed it. So it's almost a combination of these are some good songs. And Biggie's on a lot of them, obviously. Yeah. You know, you can tell his rhyme scheme. His rhyme scheme. Yeah, absolutely. And you know that, like, Biggie would have killed it. So it's almost a combination of these are some good songs. And Biggie's on a few of them.

And also, like, fuck, like, what might have been? Well, Puffy's one of his chief producing guys, like, in his little, you know, the bad boy team. Yeah. He had a great point where people are just like, oh, they just say you just take a, you know, we just take that sample from that Herb Albert song. He was hypnotized, you know? Yeah. He's like, all you guys do is just take a loop and we just take that sample uh from um that herb albert song he was hypnotized you know yeah he's like all all you guys do is just take a loop and and and make a song he's like you try it yeah you try it you find you find a hot loop and you make a song as good as anything we make and i was like that's a really good point they would take known samples you know like hollywood swinging and make that in that mace song yeah it's like could anyone hook it up as well as them for that kind of music for club banging yeah and hey like rizzo was doing

pretty similar things dre was pretty similar things i mean like a lot of those like dre loops are parliament songs yeah for sure for sure the fact that it annoyed the shit out of me in the straight out of compton uh movie where he just plays the riff from the Lattimore song, I Want To Do Something Freaky To You, like he made it up. Yes. That was off the song. I just figured it out. The song goes,

da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na- genius came up with this melody right now we just saw we just saw they touched the obelisk yeah exactly that's the song called I wanna do something freaky to you well I mean fucking

but they they rapped over a David Bowie song been around the world yeah but made it bang made a song

that was already a huge hit yeah slowed it down a little bit yeah beefed up the drums and it was fucking

awesome it was fucking awesome. It was very scientific how they would make that stuff. Why don't we take Puff Daddy as seriously as we should? Is it because he's overexposure? Because he doesn't write rhymes. He writes checks. Yeah. That's a great line.

It's one of the greatest lines. I wonder who wrote it. It's like he's a – I would consider him a little bit more of a genius executive. Yeah. Great performance where he started. Yeah. Really funny. Going back to Jeffries.

Pretty good in Made, too. Made was great. Made, not a great film, but he was pretty great in Made. Puff Dad, very talented. Started as an A&R and ended up becoming – He was a backup dancer originally. He started as a backup dancer? I think he was starting as a backup dancer. Backup dancer, then A&R. Yeah. I mean He was a backup dancer originally. I think – He started as a backup dancer? I think he was like starting as a backup dancer.

Backup dancer, then A&R. Yeah. I mean – Well, the series are crazy. I mean he was going to Howard and then would just – Yeah. He would just take the train up at like 2 in the morning or 3 in the morning up to New York and get there and just bitch out Andre Harrell later and just – I mean have the –

It's interesting. I mean to find Biggie and like – I don't know. And teach Biggie how to dance. Well, and he was just known. Like, before he was, I remember he was in an ad

in the Source, he was in a Carl Canai ad, and he was just like, Sean Puffy Combs. And I'm like, is he a rapper? Yeah. We had that charity basketball game

that was like, he came out of the, you know, that like, there was a huge fire and like, Heavy D, you know,

Heavy D was performing. Yeah. You know, and well, he had all those like, uptown, you know, it was where he discovered, I mean, Mary J. Blige, I think, I forget about that. So, you know, Heavy D was performing and, you know, well, he had all those like uptown, you know, it was where he discovered,

I mean, Mary J. Blige, I think everyone forgets about that so, you know, it's overlooked because she's so successful but,

I mean, French Montana. French Montana. He's still kind of doing it, you know? Yeah. He's like Pusha T's like advisor now. Like,

he sits in, like, when he's writing lyrics and stuff and who's better than Push? Still getting name dropped by Pusha T in 2016. I mean, I feel like, well, it's like a thing like Birdman, right? Yeah. I think about Birdman, and you're like, well, honestly, like, I mean, I don't know if Birdman's the greatest rapper,

but he also did, like, Father Like Son, and he also was in, like, The Big Timers, and he also is the best A&R of all and also had the brain the vision to do cash and you kind of look at like history and you're like i mean whether it's regular history or music history or whatever kind of like history is written by kind of like just people with crazy ass ideas yeah yeah things happen and puffy made i mean he's responsible for the later part of the 90s i think you know yeah no way out it's one of those albums that you're like all right the jiggy era begins here yeah say it's life after death but but it's really, I think, No Way Out where it's just got very, very jiggy very fast. Well, you guys kept this podcast jiggy, I'm going to say, the entire time.

Thanks, man. This was a lot of fun. I'm telling my mom you said that. Very educated. You guys were both very jiggy. That's all I ever want. Thanks, man. I want to both let you know that you're both lit and woke.

So thank you so much. That wraps up. That's it. That concludes the draft really quick. We're going to go over. We're going to go over. Everybody's five. We're not going to decide who won right now.

We're going to put that up on Twitter. We're going to have some experts weigh in. Yeah, let people fight it out. We're going to let people fight it out. We're going to have some experts weigh in. Yeah, let people fight it out. We're going to let people fight it out. Matt Bronger, your five albums. Nas, Illmatic, The Resurrection by Common,

Low End Theory by A Tribe Called Quest, and then The Bizarre Ride to the Far Side. Those were your five. Oh, wait, and I left one out. Living Like Hustlers. Living Like Hustlers by Above the out. Living like hustlers. Living like hustlers. By above the law. By above the law.

Great wild card pick. Thanks. Fantastic five. Great start to five. Jeff, you had Outcast, A.T. Aliens, number one. Snoop, Doggy Style, number two. Tupac, All Eyes on Me, number three. Fantastic.

Redman, Muddy Waters at number four. Yeah. Fantastic pick. And then number five, Only Built for Cuban Links. Five classic albums. Solid list. Five solid lists. Mine, not quite as solid, but started with Ready to Die by the Notorious B.I.G.

Equemini by Outkast. The Score by the Fugees. Dr. Dre's The Chronic 2001. The Chronic, still on the board, by the way. And then, uh, Ranted It Out with No Way Out by Puff Daddy and the family. The family. Yeah. I mean, we left

Carl Thomas is very happy. Carl Thomas Carl Thomas is on there, and, uh, oh my god, two people that... Foxy Brown's on it. Kanye's used recently. That other, uh, Kelly Price. Kelly Price, also's on it. Kanye's used recently. That other... Kelly Price. Kelly Price also on the album. A visionary. We left, before we wrap it up,

the 90s... Left a lot out. We left a lot on the table. A lot. The first Chronic. We left, we almost left fucking... We left 36 Chambers. Yep.

Miseducation, Lauryn Hill. Check Your Head and Elk Communication. Yeah. Those were ones that I definitely had. I fought with those. Reasonable Doubt. Reasonable Doubt. The Infamous.

It's Dark and Hell is Hot by DMX. Pete Rock, CL Smooth. Yeah. Mac and the Soul Brother. Freestyle Fellowship, Inner City Cry. Oh, my God. 365 via Mystic Styles was the one I wrote down. America's Most Wanted.

Ice Cube. Oh, Souls of Mischief. All the Ice Cube, yeah. Death Certificate. Death Certificate. Kill It Will. God damn. You know, I thought about DJ Shadow introducing Goody Mop Soul Food.

Yeah. Goody Mop Soul Food. All of Quick, all of Sugar Fairy. Quick, yeah. I was going to go Alcoholics Coast to Coast. That's a good one. Love that album. We could have done this for three, four more hours.

Oh, Fear of a Black Planet, Public Enemy, Fire Haze. 1990. The CB4 soundtrack. Oh, I Fuck Your Sister, I Fuck Your Cat, Won't Fuck Your Mom Cause the Bitch is Too 1990s. 1990. The CB4 soundtrack. I'll fuck your sister. I'll fuck your cat. Won't fuck your mom because the bitch is too fat. Oh, CB4. I see Gus now.

Guys, thank you so much for doing this. Hey, thank you. This was so much fun, man. Yeah. Once again, this was Matt Bronger, stand-up comedian. Check him out. Jeff Weiss, fantastic writer. Check him out, too.

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