All Fantasy Everything - Italians (w/ Albertina Rizzo)

Episode Date: August 13, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is a headgum podcast. We'll do another brand new episode of All Fantasy Everything, the podcast of Fantasy Drafts anything and everything in the world of popular culture. And speaking of popular culture, on today's episode, we're drafting Italians. Our guest today is my friend, the incredibly talented writer, the Argentina soccer team defender, Albertina Rizzo. I'm your host, Ian Carmel. With me, as always are my friends Sean Jordan and David Borey.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Here we are. here we are. That was confusing for you. Yes, I know. I was like, do I? I think you handled it great. Yeah. That's good.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Are we going? Yeah. Oh, look at that. Unbroken string. We did it. An unbroken string of friendship. That's fun stuff. So you are or are not an Argentina fan?
Starting point is 00:01:06 Well, my mom's from Argentina. My dad was born in Italy. And I'm messy. And so technically I have to be. Yeah. But I can also be neutral, I guess. But why? Also, let me just go on record as saying this.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Go off. We're on record right now. Okay. This is being taped, right? Everybody. That's what we tell people. The bots were really going after Argentina and in big way. Hard.
Starting point is 00:01:30 The bots were working hard to put a, to slander and bad, listen, Argentina deserves some bad PR, but the way that they were going after it was crazy. And I will say this, to everybody who was going for Spain, you're going for the colonizer versus the colonized. That's right. You're rooting for the colonizer. Yeah. Excuse me. Can I ask you this?
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yes. Did you like the way that Tom Cruise said Argentina? Yes, I love the way Tom Cruise says everything. I love the way he says everything. He's not the only one where I saw it. I'm like, he also put Espania on it. He said Espania and Argentina. He puts 110% into everything.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Nobody cracked a smile in the room I was in. I was like, there we go. Well. I should have a clap. I want to hear him say paella. I was like, how much extra do I have to pay to hear you? hear him say paella. I laughed so hard. I showed my wife. It was amazing. I said, look at this silly man. We talked about it on the show. It was great. It was one of the great
Starting point is 00:02:29 moments of my summer so fun. But that's his whole gig. Like, he's going to, he's going to be like, I'm going to learn how to pronounce this. He probably spent a month with a vocal coach learning exactly how to see. He probably said exactly how someone from, like, Valencia. Yeah. In Spain. He was, he flew to Spain. He went to Barcelona. He probably swam to Spain. He was on the artificial beach of the Barcelona. He definitely climbed something while he was there. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:54 He loves to climb a thing. He loves to climb a thing and he likes to do things at 110%. And for that, he is our last great movie star. He's our last great movie star. And I will. I like to throw this out every time it comes up. I am on the cake list and everyone's invited. Everyone's invited.
Starting point is 00:03:09 The cake is very good. December 8th usually it shows up. I'd love to share it all with you. Oh, great. Okay. Oh, so you're on the personal cake. I'm on the personal cake. See, I was on the office.
Starting point is 00:03:18 It was sent to our office cake list. I'm not per, no. It's all the same cake, right? Yes. All the same cake. Yeah. Okay. I've had a piece of that cake with a glass of Jameson.
Starting point is 00:03:27 That's how we recommend you. In our living room. That's how he recommends you take it in. There's not enough time for me to talk about how I'm on the Tom Cruise cake list again, which I do every time it comes up. We're drafting Italians. Sean Jordan is here. Sean Cougar Melon Jordan on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:03:42 August 15th, Sports Drink, New Orleans, August 22nd, 21st, Comedy Corner Underground, Minneapolis, Minnesota, August 23rd, Lincoln Lodge, Chicago, Illinois. September 17th, Motor City Comedy Festival, Detroit, Michigan. September 26th, 10-year anniversary, all fantasy, everything. Late show tickets, maybe still available by now. They're going fast. Yeah, that's what they say. That's what we say.
Starting point is 00:04:05 It's going to be fun. We're saying they're going fast. I never check. I never look. What are you going to wear? What am I going to wear? I don't know yet. Clothing optional.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I think I'm wearing some Italian guy. Oh, that's right. Should we all wear Italian fashion in honor of our friend Albertina Rizzo? I mean, don't just do it for me. Oh, no, I was going to do it for me. You could do it for yourself. I was going to do it for Sergio Taccini. That's right.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Man. Are we saying picks? That's the question. Oh. Oh, was that on you guys' list? Not on my list. No, but that's a very good list. He's on a long list.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Now, I should ask since, how do drafts work? I should probably learn that. We'll get into it. I should have explained it before you were sitting here on the couch on the table. David Borey is here. Cool guy Jokes 87 on Instagram. Hey, I don't have any dates. I don't have one date on the book besides us.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Neither. I don't have a stand-up date out of town. You're doing some planning. Maybe ever again. No, I'm not quitting stand-up, but I'm just doing it locally. I think locally and act globally. That's great. You ever visualize world peas?
Starting point is 00:05:13 A lot. Yeah, you have to. A lot. And that's what I do with my stand-up. Okay. So if you live in Los Angeles, you can see me do stand-up. If not, I mean, I'm going to go on tour next year, but that's, like, a long ways away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Good hat. Thank you. What is on that hat? This artist gave it to me after a show. It's great. I thank you. I like that color red a lot. Yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 00:05:32 It's the right color red. It's a good red. Because you don't want the bright, bright other red. Yeah, that's like these days with white accents. Yeah, yeah, that's over. Because even like, even the hats that aren't MAGA hats but are trying to, to make the point that thing.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I hate it. No, you can't do it. That needs to be done. That needs to be done officially. You can't riff on it. No. It's a dub. You can't riff on it.
Starting point is 00:05:53 You can't riff on it. I hate it's like, now it makes me so angry even if it's like something cool. Make America dance again. Shut the fuck up. First of all,
Starting point is 00:06:01 we never stopped dancing and that's why. I think we lost our way. We did lose our way, but we didn't stop dancing. As a way as a dancing society for a while. I think that's probably,
Starting point is 00:06:09 nobody's taking, nobody's taking Arthur Murray Ballroom dancing anymore. But I think the youth are dancing maybe more than ever. I never stopped dancing. But they're not taking it any further than that.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Well, for money, they are. They're dancing for money? Well, I think if you ever open TikTok, that's all dancing. Oh, they're all dancing. That dancing feels like it has no soul, though. Yeah, there's nothing behind the eyes. It looks fun to do with your friends, but not in the same way that like if you watch Soul Train or American bandstand. It doesn't feel like people dancing together.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Feels like people dancing together. Well, it feels very dog-doing trick. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that is the energy. You know, that the energy is dog-doing trick. And they get their little treat, which is the likes. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Exactly. They get fed. They get fed. That's the, that's the biscuit on the nose. Sean's not talking a lot so far. And I think it's because he has a mustache and shaved clean the rest of his face. And I do think you're in your own head. Is that why you're holding the mic that position?
Starting point is 00:07:09 What are you talking about? What do you mean? You're in your own head about it. a little bit. No, this is always how I have right here. You're car-facing. I think you look good. No, I'm laying in the cut.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah. Wait, put it down. Let me see. Is it? I mean, the mic's usually like this. Isn't that, Isaac? What do you think? I like you.
Starting point is 00:07:25 You look good. I appreciate it. You look very Portland. Bostaches are cool. They're cool again. They're cool. A lot of cool stuff doesn't look good on me, though. There's plenty.
Starting point is 00:07:33 You just got to lean in. It's funny. Just believe. Albertina Rizzo is here. Yes. Author of the Celestine Prophecy. Is that right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yes, and the Da Vinci Code, famously. Famously. Now we're saying another thing. Now we're saying, I mean, now we're definitely saying Piz. Dan Brown was on my list. Would you have anything you'd like to promote? You'd like to point people towards? No.
Starting point is 00:07:55 If you have an Emmy vote, vote for me instead of Albertina. Oh, yeah, I guess vote for whoever you enjoyed most. Albertina wrote an executive and show ran? Yeah, the Muppets. Yeah, the Muppets. Yes. With all the. The Muppets show.
Starting point is 00:08:12 With the old, the Muppets, the Muppets show special. With Sabrina Carpenter. A lot of, yes. By yay big. And Seth Rogen. And Seth Rogen. Whoa. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Larger. Yes. That was sick. Carpenter, yes. And Sabrina Carpenter. Yes. It was so good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:08:27 It was phenomenal. I appreciate that. One of my favorite things I've watched this year. It'll be an honor to be way laid by you at the Emmys. We'll see, you know. Yeah. Who knows? I don't know how people vote anymore, as is evidenced by where we are.
Starting point is 00:08:39 That's right. I don't know how people vote. So I guess my pitch is... You were a big Tim Walls guy. I usually wear it right in my hat, but we had a discussion about that. I voted for Spitfire wheels. I did love Tim Walls. I did too.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Yeah, I got to love him. Flame Boy and Wet Willie. Yeah, he wrote both in both. Well, my wife votes for Wet Willie. I vote for Flame Boy, so we just don't go vote. I like that you guys can still keep it spicy. You make little fake ballots in the house and then just don't leave. And yet your marriage works.
Starting point is 00:09:06 It does. You know, you can't be the exact thing. Well, those two get together. Steamy. It is, yeah. A little moist. What moist? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I actually don't, I'm on the record, but word doesn't bother me. What moist? Moust disgusting word. It doesn't bother me either. No. No. Moist. It's necessary.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Many better. Cake. Moist cake. We're taking out moist. We're taking out of a lot of good stuff. We're losing a lot of great things. We're losing more good than bad. I just don't tell me it's moist when it's coming at me.
Starting point is 00:09:34 It's fine. What is it? Cake. Does Moises? You don't, how would you like you to describe the cake? Wet? Wet? Yeah, see, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:09:45 That sucks. None of you eat wet cake. What do you eat wet cake? Unless you were getting paid. I like, we talked about this, though. You don't like wet as a texture. I like wet. You don't like wet cake. What's it wet with?
Starting point is 00:09:58 Like trace. That's a wet cake. That cake is wet as fuck. If it's drizzled, I can handle. It's amazing. That's an amazing. You is wet. Kira-Missue is wet. I feel like we're going to get caught in the weeds and we're never going to be
Starting point is 00:10:10 If we're going down on this, we're never going to say it's a little Italian. Let's go down a dry air road. Albertina rules. Watch your shows. Thank you. My name is Ian Carmel. I have nothing to promote except for our 10-year anniversary show in Portland, Oregon. At the Aladdin Theater, September 26th.
Starting point is 00:10:27 That's it. It's going to be tight. We're drafting Italians. The way we determine the order of this draft where we each get five picks. Okay. And we take turns drafting those people. and then we talk about them. Something's taken, it's off the board, obviously.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Off the board. Oh, it's off the board. Right, that's how it works. That's the first thing we should be drafted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, sorry. Now, the way we determine the order of the draft is a rollicking game of rock paper scissors play between the three of you and we throw on shoot.
Starting point is 00:10:56 All right, here we go. Okay. Rock paper, scissors, shoot. Oh, it's cats. Here we go again. Rock paper, scissors, shoot. Oh, Sean wins. A scissors against two paper, a natural victory.
Starting point is 00:11:09 as the winner, Sean, it is incumbent upon you to determine the order of today's draft. But before you do that, I will remind you of the serpentine draft. And what is that? That's a great question. Isn't that when it goes front to back, back to front? That's exactly right. That's exactly right. DV Galbraith on Instagram, we'll get to yours next week.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Sean likes to do a silly little explanation. Sean likes to do a silly little explanation for each of them. Not shoehorned, but it's just something I do as an explanation. Would you say you've been dragooned into doing it? Maybe. How should I say that? Would that fit the definite? Would that work?
Starting point is 00:11:45 I think so. Dragooned. I think so. Okay. But yes, that's exactly how it works. Okay. So the order will... Forced, coerced or bullied into doing something against your will.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Dragooned, huh? Yeah, dragooned. No, I wouldn't say I've been dragooned. It's fine. It's not against my will. We'll leave that. Let's go... Albertine, you want to go first?
Starting point is 00:12:05 Wow. Oh, wow. Then David, then me, then Ian. So I'm going top to bottom or bottom to top? It's going to go Albertina David, Sean, Ian, Ian, Sean, David Albertina. Okay, but there's no order of Italians. You're going to want to draft your best Italians first. Because once they're taken, they're off the board.
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Starting point is 00:15:33 streaming on HBO Max. go get yourself some dunks. Dunk Man. And we're back. Welcome back to All Fantasy Everything. This is it as far as podcast go. Okay, I have some bit ones here, but I realize it's only five people, so I can't do bits. You can do bits later.
Starting point is 00:15:49 We can do bits late. Yeah, yeah. Oh, wait. You're going to want talent. I got you. I got you. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Obviously, I'm going to take the kind of king of the Italians, which is Martin's Corsese. That's right, Martin's Corsese. So I'm going to take him. Absolutely. Because no one tells a better story than that man. And for somebody who did as much cocaine as he did in, I think, for two decades. Yeah. He has the memory of, it's like crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:15 His memory is insane for somebody who was like truly made of cocaine for about 15 years. Yeah. Which they don't cover. They barely touch in the five-part document series, which I could have, I could have watched like 20 episodes of that thing. I've never seen it. Oh. Oh, my God. I don't even know it to him.
Starting point is 00:16:37 It's on HBO? Yeah. I mean, it's just like, it's, have you seen it? No. Oh, it's incredible. Oh, is it about getting the movie made? No, it's about, just him. Just him in general?
Starting point is 00:16:49 He's just talking. It's called Mrs. Corsese. It's on Apple TV. Yeah, and all his childhood friends that are all like Gumbas from like, you know, Nolita that he grew up with in Little Italy, who are just like, they're not wise. guys, but they're like, you know, adjacent. Yeah. Are so fun.
Starting point is 00:17:09 First off, scammers, every single one of them. And he love it. I kind of love that. They're all scammers. And they're all friends since they were like 10 years old. They hung out on the block. And you're like, well, gee, I wonder why Martin Scorsese is so good at painting a picture of like Italian mob life. And every time he writes something, it seems so true to life.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And then you hear about how he grew up and it was truly mean street. Like, he grew up. Like that. Yeah. I didn't know he was a big cocaine. I had a feeling, but I didn't like know. I didn't know it fueled him. Oh, he loved cocaine.
Starting point is 00:17:42 He loved cocaine so much that at one point he got so mad he threw a desk out of window. And he's little. And he's little. That's little. That's cocaine for sure. That's cocaine for sure. That's cocaine. He's like a little Italian grape.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And also people are like, wow, he's really productive. I was like, yeah, that's cocaine. That's cocaine. That's productive. I'm not, listen. to do cocaine and think it's okay and be successful is probably the most powerful feeling there is. Absolutely. Like it's working and the health effects haven't come out and you're just like, yeah, I just do a shitload of Coke.
Starting point is 00:18:18 You feel like God. That's who I am. Other people like the stuff you make on Coke because a lot of people are on Coke and then have big ideas. Yeah, everybody hates my ideas on Coke. That's how we get your own decisions. There are good ideas on Turbo mode. Yeah. There are good ideas on turbo mode.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And also it's like whatever delusion you need to have to be a filmmaker and make it in Hollywood, cocaine is really there to help everybody out. I also don't. I do see how it powdered is to howdered delusion. Like where you're like, yeah, for the right people, that's just the push you need. Yeah. Well, you're like, wait, I also think that nobody from, I'm going to say, 75 to 90, five who made a movie was not on cocaine.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Oh, look at some of those movies. It was just a bag of coke on the desk. It had, yes. The mask? Truly. The mask? The mask? They were like, I need you to write me a movie.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Don't come up until you're numb. You know what they tell the stories of like the studio system and like the, you know, Louis B. Mayor and all these things. It's Louis B. Mayor and then cocaine. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's cocaine was the second most powerful filmmaker in all of Hollywood. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:38 There should be, like, at the Oscar Museum, there should be, the Academy Museum. There should be, like, a cocaine exhibit. Yes. If they were being, if they were telling the real story. It really helped Hollywood a lot. I think there's the shark from Jaws. This is the cocaine Martin Scorsese was doing. What was that musical he made?
Starting point is 00:19:53 Oh, New York, New York. New York, New York. Yes. This is the cocaine from that. Oh, he was heavy into Coke then because he was dating Liza Minnelli at the time. And you know what's so funny is that in the documentary. documentary, like he'll be talking about, you know, making these, I'm obsessed. You know, once I become obsessed, I just read all about it. So I go into deep dives. He, I love, they kind of touched on the
Starting point is 00:20:14 coke aspect of his life, but like barely. And it's so funny because he clearly had a say in like, you know what, we're just going to skip the thing that was part of my life and my existence and help me wake up every day of my, every day. We're just going to skip that. We're just going to say I had a slight anger management problem, which is so fun. funny to me. But yeah, so he, he, he did a lot of crazy, all those 70s guys, like all the guys that he came up with, like Francis Ford Coppola, all of them, Brian De Palm, all those guys. Also two other Italians. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also intense movies. What's your favorite Martin Scorsese movie? Oh, it's good fellas hands down. It's the best movie he's ever made. And I know that it's a basic answer, but it's like, of course that's the best one. You come back around to that on your, Like, is he knows. Listen, Coca-Cola is not better.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Casino's great. It's not bad. Casino is more rewatchable. You think it's more rewatchable? More re-watchable. I think it's more re-watchable. I like it more. The first 80% of Goodfellas is the most re-watchable that something has been.
Starting point is 00:21:18 A movie TV show. I will always watch it. That third act loses me like crazy. Casino, I get bogged down in the middle every time I watch it. I love it every second of it. Like I can sit down and watch all of Goodfellas and be engaged casino. I'm always like, oh, he's at back in Vegas. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:21:35 You know what I mean? I like, lose it. I love it. Yeah, no, it's, you know. No, it's incredible. And Sharon Stone is one of the most incredible actors. Bonkers. She should have won every award for that.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Bonkers in that movie. Yeah, but, yeah, no, Goodfellas is by far. Marty. Marty, he just doesn't miss. I'm sorry, he just doesn't miss. Has anyone ever got eyes on Martin Scorsese? Has he ever seen him, my R.L? Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Oh, crazy. Wow. I went to... Do you have glasses on? Yeah, I think he's like... Yeah, he kind of looked... If you put a wig on the, like, dancing six flags guy, that's what he looks like. The Frank Knight guy?
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yeah, yeah. No, he's so... No, he's so cute. He's like, he's so small and he's got really nervous energy. And I think, God willing, he will live forever. I think you're right. Because he's so mentally engaged. And there was a screening that I went to because he's always doing.
Starting point is 00:22:31 something. Again, I don't think he does coke anymore, but that stayed in him. Yeah. Yeah. He's got a lot left in there, right? He's got like a supply somewhere that's just like never made it into it. Yeah. Or like how guys who smoke weed all the time for a while, even if they quit, they're still like that. They're still like that. Yeah. He's still listening to reggae. He was at the screening and he was talking about like growing up in Nolita and all this stuff. And I was just like, I can't believe in real. Because,
Starting point is 00:23:01 In my head, I was like, oh, he turns it on for, you know, talk shows or whatever it is. No, that's who he, like, if you invite him at breakfast, he's like that, ordering coffee, he's like that. I just think it's the most wonderful thing. That guy has an anecdote for everything. That's great. For everything. I have three anecdotes. None of them are good.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Pretend it to say that. Three of them are cocaine. Three of them are cocaine. Other people's stories. With Fran Leibowitz? Yes. Great. That's great.
Starting point is 00:23:29 He just laughs at everything she says. Scorsese. Phenomenal pick. Thank you so much. David Boy, time for your first pick. Mine is it. I had to take it to the past. I wanted to do like a past,
Starting point is 00:23:37 future, fictional and American. Da Vinci, what are we talking about? Leo. Of course. A guy who could do everything. The guy who did the code. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:46 The man who invented the code. Is the Mona Lisa self-portrait? Who knows? There's a lot of weird internet forums about it. Yeah, I just like a guy who, he's like the reason we say Renaissance man. Divinci. another, like, I think kind of Scorsesey energy.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Well, he grew up as a wise guy. He grew up in Nolita, but the original Nolina. He was somebody who had, like, incredible ADD. Like, he was part of the reason. I've seen the drawings. He didn't finish anything.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what a man looks like. It's not cocaine, but it's definitely ADD to be like before there's flight, like, what about a helicopter? What about a helicopter? It spins and it spins like that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:27 He never finished. anything. He's, I mean, he finished like a few things. Yeah. But there's like 12 Leonardo Da Vinci paintings, whereas like with other artists of his era, there's hundreds and hundreds, you know? He started a lot of stuff, didn't finish it. He developed like war machines. Like, that was one of his jobs. It was like building catapult and prebuesches and stuff like that. He just like couldn't stay on a job because he would get this next idea and like move on to the next idea, which just feels a little Scorsese, except he finishes all his ideas. I'm seeing, a thread, and I can say this because
Starting point is 00:25:00 you know, I'm half Italian, there is a mania. It's like Italians are either very lazy or there's a mania. I'm not doing this. I want it. And I'm... I am more on the lazy side.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Like, I don't have the incentive to do a lot of stuff. Yeah. But when they get into it, think about Ferrari. Like, they just go in. They go in and they go hard. They go hard. I think they're a very hard working community. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:25:33 You know what? Intributed a lot to this country. Yeah. In the world at large. I'm thankful. I can say that because, you know, I consider myself. But also when you go to Italy, they are chilling. Hard.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Taking it easy. Let me reframe that. Taking it easy is a big part of their life. Leisure is a big part of their life. And I appreciate that about, especially like it makes it such a nice place to visit, right? Yes. You're just like, damn, all right.
Starting point is 00:26:01 If you go there. I feel, yeah, let's just hang out in this square for a while. There is no urgency. No, that's how it feels. No. Dinner is so long. Yes. Dinner is so long.
Starting point is 00:26:11 It's like three hours. And heavy. It's a heavy dinner, right? It can be. It can be. It can be. It just feels like. Like, we went out to eat with our friends who live in Italy when I was there.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And it was just like, she was like, yeah, we'll get there at like six-ish. And then I think we left at 10. And it wasn't like, it wasn't like, it wasn't like Thanksgiving where you're like, I'm gorging for three hours. Yeah, yeah. It was just, we're hanging out and then maybe we'll get some of this. I love it. They love to tell the story, too. Naples is urgent.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I'll tell you that. They're urgent. Free the Naples. Free the Naples. We have to free the Naples. But yeah, he was doing science. He was like dissecting. And he got some rich people to bank it?
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah. Come on, baby. That feels like what we're heading back towards. Oh, yes. He did. We've all wanted patrons. Well, you know what? Thank you, Medici family.
Starting point is 00:27:02 I hope you're still in the game. I have a few scripts. Maybe you send me some money. We need more Medici's. Yeah. Are they still? That family's still around. Are they still bankrupt?
Starting point is 00:27:12 I would love it if there was like a young Italian streamer. It'd be so great. The main legitimate ruling line of the House of Medici is extinct. Oh, damn. What did they fund a Da Vinci doing a bunch of stuff? But there are cadet branches. It's the princes of Otageno and descendants who are still around and there's illegit. So no, not really.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Damn. But there are some old families that are like still around. Oh, of course. Also, we live in L.A. There's also rich guys funding dumb young people doing shit. Oh, that's happening all the time. Yeah, that's how this town works. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I said this town twice. I'm very self-conscious. What's your friend? Isaac, you have a Rothschild friend. I do have a friend who's a Rothschild. Yeah. I don't know if they fund things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Well, you could fund. I bet they fund things. Not the same. way. Sure. Yeah, maybe. Tell them to fund
Starting point is 00:28:00 David's poetry career. David's got some mean poems. They're funding probably arts and
Starting point is 00:28:06 medicine and not like, you know, a TV show. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's what they're like,
Starting point is 00:28:13 oh, you want to make a TV show? Yeah, no, we're going to stick to paintings.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Well, we should get the Rothschilds in TV. Uh-huh. We're going extinct faster than painting. Bring it back.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Wasn't there a TV show about them on FX? Like a fix-size? I think you're thinking of YouTube's on the dark way. Right. In my world.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I saw it at my barbershop. No, wasn't there in a FAA? Oh, no, it's about the Gettys is who I'm thinking. Oh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:39 yeah, that's an interesting story. That is an interesting story. Isn't the Rothschild's an interesting story? They are, actually I'll talk to you later about it. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:46 I get it. Off mic. All these families, there's always a murder in one of these. So that's, that's a big. There is always a murder. I think if you get so rich,
Starting point is 00:28:53 you have to kill somebody. There's always a murder. Somebody's got to get murdered. He's putting on a jacket again. This guy takes on and puts on jackets. Allegedly the AC blows right there. But Da Vinci is a great one because also classic, like, he's like, you know what? I know a guy.
Starting point is 00:29:07 He's a big, I know a guy. He's a big I know a guy. And that is very Italian. Another good thing he did was at the school of Da Vinci where he would start paintings. And he's like, all right, you guys come in and finish this stuff. Yeah. I know a guy. That's all I want.
Starting point is 00:29:20 That's what they think of the, that Salvador Mundi, that painting that like, so, which is another fun deep dive, which is. It's like they discovered a Leonardo. And there are people who think it's a Leonardo da Vinci. And people are like, this is not a Leonardo da Vinci. But it's still sold for like $300 million. Great. Love it.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Fun little wormhole. You want to go down that. Sure. Later on time. I want to watch the Scorsese series first. Keep you off those Rothschild YouTube. No. I got a baby day.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Don't get on them. Get on them. I'm going to have to go get a mound of war to handle this day. Sean, your first pick? Leonardo Venture off the table. On the heels of Scorsese, I'll go Robert De Niro. Oh, Bobby D. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Okay. Great. Bobby D. Can't go wrong. Can't miss. What's your favorite Robert De Niro movie? I was thinking about it. He can just do so much.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I mean, I don't want to say... Analyze this? Analyze that. When he talks about, you can hang a towel. Do you have an erection? Yeah, you can hang a towel off. Concilieri. Analyze this is a good movie.
Starting point is 00:30:18 It's funny. It's good. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it a long time. Yeah. I remember it being. Truly. I remember it being funny.
Starting point is 00:30:24 But. I mean, you know, you got your heat. Heats. Give me your favorite De Niro from every decade. 70s. I don't really. I mean, what was the 70s? I guess.
Starting point is 00:30:34 The Godfather part two. Yeah. What about was Mean Streets in there? Taxi driver. Yeah. You know, I didn't really love Mean Streets, honestly, but he was awesome in Mean Streets. Yeah. He's just so out of control.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And you get to see that young, ridiculous, cocky shithead De Niro. Sean texted me after he was like, why can't they make a nice streets? Yeah. And then like a sad emoji face. It's a little rough for me. I had to go plants and trees. What was the 80s? Raging Bull?
Starting point is 00:31:02 Was that the 80s? That was 1980? Yeah, okay. Give me that. He had a good, did he have? The King of Comedy. Oh, that's probably his best. Once upon a time in America?
Starting point is 00:31:12 Interesting. Too long for me. Long movie. Long movie. The guy's in a long movie. Long. Midnight run. I watched this movie.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Midnight run is incredible. That's the number one 80s movie for him. for him. Minnair runs incredible. Shout out Charles Groton, also incredible. He was in this movie that I watched that, no, I don't know. This is just a plug for a movie that is so bizarre. It's called Hi Mom, and it's really rare.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I don't know. It's like a very, very weird 70s movie. I don't know what the fuck I watched when I saw that movie. I can curse me. Yeah. This is actually put out by the woman. I don't know if you guys were religious or something. The Church of Latter-Denai.
Starting point is 00:31:54 same. It's our main sponsor. No, but like, it's this crazy movie. And he's so committed. And what's crazy about De Niro is that he is the most dynamic committed actor, the least dynamic in real life person, it seems. I don't know anything about him. Well, not just from every interview. He's like, I don't want to engage.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Like every interview he just doesn't engage. Yeah, I know. He's very like withdrawn. Yeah, yeah. I really appreciate that in a. Yeah. Bring back the mystery. I hate knowing about everything.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I 100% agree. Didn't he pop off a little bit about Trump? Didn't he have something to say about Trump? He did a sketch about it, right? He hates Trump. Yeah, but I mean, he like, that was like the one thing he's been. Right. Even at this point, this point, that is withdrawn.
Starting point is 00:32:38 We everybody fucking. Yeah, I know. But it's like the one thing he was vocal about. Yeah. Yeah. In this town? I do like. That he came out because like when he does that, he revokes.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Because Trump could have gone on. If the New York State's Island, he could have gone on thinking like, Oh, but Robert De Niro probably likes me. But now he took that away from him. Can you imagine knowing that Robert De Niro doesn't like you? That'd be a bummer. I like having that he has no opinion about it. I don't like knowing if there's anyone that doesn't like me.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yeah, no one likes to know that somebody doesn't like him. I have a dossier on my computer of everyone who doesn't like you. Don't show him my clean, shaven chin. Ignorance is bliss. The hi mom? Can I read the description of the movie? It's an insane movie. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:33:20 I saw it. I was like, it's half an hour. No, it's 90 minutes and it was, Brian De Palma did it. It's De Palma. Yes. And that's why I watch it because I love De Palma. A man rents a dilapidated apartment to film people living in the opposite building in sexual situations with help from a pornographer. When that fails, he joins a social experiment to teach white Americans how it feels to be black.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yes. Wait, that's one movie. That's one movie. Whoa. It's an insane movie. Sounds like cocaine might have fueled that a little bit. Yeah. And it's like a social commentary on like,
Starting point is 00:33:52 sex, racism, like in a weird way socialism. They tried to cover so much in 90 minutes and I was like, Brian DePaul must have been on so much cocaine. He's like, I'm going to do it all.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I got 90 minutes. I got one shot. It's such a weird movie. It's so weird. But he is committed. It's time for my first and second books, as it is a serpentine draft. Man, a lot of heat. A lot of heat went off the board in the round, a lot of heat, left on the board.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I am going to take, with my first pick, Francis Albert Sinatra. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Frank. I got to do it for the, I got to do it for my family. Yeah. Yeah. Why?
Starting point is 00:34:36 My grandfather, huge, huge Frank Sinatra family. He did it his way. Huge, did Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett impersonations like at things. Oh, wow. He looked like Tony Bennett. Like house parties? Like how, like Elks Lodges, house parties. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:34:51 He did like paid. gig. Paid gigs. There was this group in Portland called The Great Pretenders. My grandpa, he looked like Tony Bennett, but he kind of sang like Frank Sinatra a little bit.
Starting point is 00:35:01 There was a Roy Orbison. So it's like the Avengers of cover bands? That's a good. That's smooth. It was smooth as hell. He would wear a tuxedo and he would go and like to his, like, you know, even when he had dementia,
Starting point is 00:35:13 you would sing like Sinatra songs to him and that and he would like light up. Bring him back a little bit? Yeah, he'd come back and be able to sing him. Putting that aside, one of the great American entertainers of all time. The first pop star, technically. I think you're right about that.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I think they consider him the first pop star. Yeah. Yes. And just an amazing story. Yes. An amazing voice that evolved. When you hear that young Sinatra and it's like clear and pure and powerful and then later on it gets a little gravelly and it gets some texture to it.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Worked with amazing people. Worked with Camp Basie. Worked with Antonio Carlos Jobbeam. You know you're going to get a jazz guy. You know you're going to get a jazz guy talking about Frank Sinatra. If he is talking, you're going to get a jazz guy in there. We're going to get into jazz. Somehow.
Starting point is 00:35:57 We're going to get into jazz. Always knew a guy. Always knew a guy. Talk about a guy who knew a guy. Probably one of the most know a guy guys of all time. He seems like the perfect person to know because like if you needed a problem gone, that's a guy you have to call. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:17 He must have been so good to be him because he's like, any problem was quickly fixed. Quickly solved. Yeah. Yeah. It seems unreal. He could get someone elected. He could get someone killed.
Starting point is 00:36:29 So crazy. He gets your table. So many genres of like just where he was. I was reading a book about the Black Panthers and Frank Sinatra. What's her name? Elaine Brown's book. Yeah. And Frank Sinatra pops up and you're like,
Starting point is 00:36:40 I'll buy that. You were hanging out with Franks. But he just seems to really have covered a lot of ground. Yeah. He covered a lot of ground. And entertainment was so much smaller and he was such a major thing. Made Vegas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Yes. Definitely slapped a woman at some point. Probably that happened. Probably that happened. He definitely slapped a lady. Maybe more than he slapped men. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think he slapped any men. I think he had other guys slap men. Yeah, he had chicken to slap guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Hey, Frank, can you miss lap that woman? No, I got that.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I'll do that on my own. He covered the women. He covered the women. Ring a ding ding ding. But again, you know, for, Legal purposes, that is, we don't know. He's dead. You can disparage him.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Oh, yeah, yeah. You can say anything you want. You could say he had Kennedy killed. You think he's dead? You think Sinatra dead? Just for legal purposes. Okay, all right, cool. All right, buddy.
Starting point is 00:37:32 He thinks Sinatra's Q. Oh. That is insane. That would be so funny. Flying into the moon was instructions. It was instructions. He's on a moon base. We got to go meet him.
Starting point is 00:37:47 He's on a moon base pulling all strings. The moon's hollow. He's got the world on a string! Yeah. Oh my God, it's all there. Wow, I can't believe I started a time. You crack the code. I crack the code.
Starting point is 00:37:56 The Da Vinci code. The Da Vinci code. Say something stupid like Sinatra's still alive, you know, but it's stupid because you get to kill. And I boo-da-da-da-da-all by saying something stupid like Sinatra's still alive. Look at Isaac's shoes. I do have Ferrari shoes. I noticed those are really cool. Did you text me to get some shoes that you already have?
Starting point is 00:38:19 have no no no no no I texted you to get the BMW ones okay I have the I have the Ferrari ones you don't get BMW shoes I love let me is different than Ferrari shoes are already Ferrari shoes walking a lot Ferrari shoes are so funny because it is a mode of transportation your feet yeah yeah yeah yeah and you're like I have Ferrari feet that's right you do a little Cadillac down there you're so designed these feet uh-huh I'll get some Hyundai slippers I'm wearing Italian sneakers. Are you? No, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Is Diadoran Italian? Yes. Okay. Absolutely it is. Frank Sinatra, in the interest of time, I'm going to take my second pick. Okay. Galileo di Vincenzo Bonouti de Galilee. That's my pick.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Galileo, Galileo. Well, it's not your pick. It's my pick. It's my pick. It's my pick. Did he invent glasses? The girls above for the devilware of the side for me. For me.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Galileo. Did he invent glasses? I thought like that I didn't look it up yet. I thought that was Benjamin Franklin. He invented bifocals. He didn't talk about Ben Franklin yesterday. He invented bifocals. I don't think Galileo invented glasses.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I don't think that was really his. For some reason I thought he did. Okay. He was a big telescope guy. He improved the telescope. Yeah, vastly improved the telescope. And it needed improving. I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah. You ever try to use an old telescope, a pre-Gallaleo telescope? No. No. I don't touch that. I tell you that. Have somebody hold that to my eye for me. He invented it to look at ladies from afar.
Starting point is 00:39:49 For sure. He was on that diploma show. Or men. Yeah. Ladies and ladies on Jupiter. Da Vinci. Da Vinci famously. He might have been.
Starting point is 00:39:58 He was looking at. I think they were all just. No, Da Vinci. Yeah, they were a little more fluid. He's gay. He's gay. He's gay. And he loved that.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I think he might have been straight gay. Strange, strange wording. I think, yeah. I think it was like full royal flush gay. Okay. Okay. All five cards. Love it.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Same suit. Gay. Gay. One of the great gay Italians. One of the great gay Italian. Him, Aunt. From Sex and the City? Oh.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Oh, I thought you meant the comedian. No. That's what I was like. Maybe. Maybe. Uh-huh. Him, right? I think so.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Well, anyway. Mario Cantone. Mario Cantone. Is that who I was thinking? Maybe that's who I was thinking of. And has a Mario Cantone joke, doesn't he? Um, am I thinking of the right guy for Aunt? I don't know either.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Let's move it on. You're thinking of the guy who plays basketball for the Timberwol. right? Edwards, yes. He had sex with Mario Gantone. That would be a bomb. He was thrown it along with a place. That would be a woj bomb.
Starting point is 00:40:59 They just come out to a bad conference together. We fucked. We're not dating, but we fucked. Galileo Galileo, Galile, condemned by the Catholic Church, which I don't know, I think, does that make them less Italian or more? more Italian. No, more Italian. I think it makes him more Italian.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got in trouble for something. If you become a heretic, yeah, he got in trouble. Yeah. You know, shaped our understanding of what we know about the night sky. I think he was a big, the Earth is not the center of the universe, guy, and he got in trouble for it. I know.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Yeah. Love that. He observed the stars of the Milky Way, the phases of Venus, the four largest moons of Jupiter, Saturn's rings, craters on the moon, sunspot? How long ago? When? He was like in the 15th. 1960s, you know?
Starting point is 00:41:47 Wow. Incredible. All the way through the 1640s. I just don't get it. I just don't understand how you invent something that lets you see the moons of Jupiter. It's crazy. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Well, bored him? I've been pretty bored. He wasn't on his dang phone. Yeah. He wasn't playing. We could be doing stuff, but we're on our stupid phone. Get off your day. I also want to say that I'm seeing a friend with like men like Da Vinci, Galileo.
Starting point is 00:42:12 You were like, I was going to do Galileo. None of my picks are like, incredibly. incredible historical figures. You don't have any? No. Well, give it time. Scorsese will be? Not because I don't,
Starting point is 00:42:22 I am very fascinated by history, but it feels very male-coded to be like, Marcus Aurelius. Oh, I don't, but I did, see, I went Galileo. That feels like a smart, I am a big male chauvinist. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:42:34 It's my first thought. Yeah, DaVinci for sure. Yes. Well, that's a great first thought. Because, I mean, we, I mean, as far as like, the greats, that's, when you think of Italian, You think of Da Vinci.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Last night we were looking up like Italian Italians. Like, not... Oh, from Italy. That's what I was looking up last night. I was looking up like, bam, straight up Italians. Yeah. So that's where those like historical ones come in for me. Well, here, so like I understand Galileo.
Starting point is 00:43:02 He's like a men are obsessed with history. He's a great man of history. But without Galileo, we never would have discovered that when the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie. That's a mora. So it's, yes, it's tied together all... Hey, whose song is that? That's Amore? That's Dean Martin.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Dean Martin is one of the... I believe. Who is, by the way, also Italian. It was always a joke? What? That's Amore? Yeah. It was always like a funny song?
Starting point is 00:43:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think it was. Scuzee me. That's hilarious because I always thought it was like a serious song. I did too. That was never... No, I think it was all... When your eyes started to drool just like pasta for jules,
Starting point is 00:43:38 you thought that was a serious one? I didn't know the second verse. Okay. That could be a first. Yeah, it gets worse. P.S. It gets stupider. As it goes along, it's actually worse. When your bell start to ring, ring a dinga ding a ding, ring a ding, ring a ding a ding, Vita Bella.
Starting point is 00:43:55 God, I wish I could just get drunk and write comedy songs. What stop up? You can. No, I need it. It feels more within reach. If we like gave stand-up up, I'm saying, and we gave ourselves six months to start a TikTok and Instagram Reels account that just did Dean Martin-esque comedy songs, I think we would have a million followers
Starting point is 00:44:19 like almost immediately. I mean, Weird Al can't be the only guy doing things. He's getting older. He is getting older. He hasn't passed the torch. And we're getting younger. We're getting younger. Yeah, he hasn't passed the torch to...
Starting point is 00:44:31 Much like a lot of Gen X. Because who's like, who's like his predecessor? He has no protege. Uh-uh. No. It's a Mitch McConnell situation. Or a predecessor. Is Dean Martin?
Starting point is 00:44:41 Oh, he has predecessors. He has a, uh, uh, uh, uh, I don't know who like... Like charity music? What's that guy's name? Strange Vick. I don't know. Strange.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Strange. There was a guy... Cookey Carl. Yeah. Kooky Carl Kowalski of the South Side. There was some dude with a radio show. I don't know. I forget his name.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Doctor. What was his name? Oh, it's the guy he always mentioned. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what that guy's name is. With this Tom Laird, Alan Sherman, but there was the guy with that radio show. It's in the movie.
Starting point is 00:45:13 It's in the movie. The Danny Radcliffe. Yeah, he mentions that guy quite a bit. Sean, your second pick. I'll go Lady Gaga. Oh, Stephanie Germina. Yeah. Gave us a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:25 It's crazy. When you, she was in a song with Waleigh back in the day, forget about those. Then she won an Oscar. She can do it all. That is such crazy Lady Garna Touchstone. First thing. Oh, the Waleigh collaborator. I didn't know who you were talking about for a day.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Also, what's up? I didn't know that. I don't know that. I have no idea. I can't. I don't remember it. I don't remember either. And I'm very familiar with her catalog. I can't. She had bangs. She looked like she was from space. I mean, that could be five records. Are you saying Lady Gaga did that or while they did that? The song is called Chilling. Never in my life. It's a really good song. I love her because she commits. She's great.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Talk about committing. I like the documentary. What's it called five foot two? Yes. It's great. And also, you know what she also did? You brought up Tony Bennett. She was basically his hospice nurse for like three years. Yeah. She invented that thing that now Brandy Carlisle is doing with everyone. Brandy Carlisle is a professional.
Starting point is 00:46:28 He's a professional like hospice care. And you know what? Somebody's got to do it and God bless her. God bless her. Yes. Yeah, you get poker face. You get a star is born. It's just it's all over the place.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Shallow. It's phenomenal. Shallow. Still makes me cry. She was trying to do like this thing. where like she gets into character and doesn't break character for a while. I mean, I love her. She's really trying to do it all.
Starting point is 00:46:52 She's such, she is, and she does it sincerely. There is so much sincerity. It's all coming, it's all real. I love seeing that in someone anymore. Like that goes back to the Tom Cruise thing. It's fun to see somebody who really, they're not kidding. They really want this. She's not kidding.
Starting point is 00:47:08 House of Gucci was not her fault. A movie I, hey, can I say this? She said Gucci about 800 times in that movie. It was great. You're not Gucci. Goochie Goose. I enjoyed it. Not, it was good, but I was, the whole time I'm watching, I'm like, there's something happening.
Starting point is 00:47:27 I think I saw it was happening right now. Yes. It was hard to follow. Yeah. A lot of those late era, what's that guy, director's name. It feels like everybody's in a different movie. Who is that director? What's that house of Gucci is that?
Starting point is 00:47:41 I have no idea. brother who was also a director, Scott. Ridley Scott. Tony Scott? Ridley Scott. Oh, Tony died. Okay. Ridley Scott.
Starting point is 00:47:50 A lot of his late era movies, it's like everyone's doing a good performance, but they all feel like they're indifferent. Well, his movies are, a lot of his movies are like, you all are going to learn and I'm going to teach, like, it's all like based on something that happened or historical, right? Because he did gladiator. Yeah, he loves to tell a tale.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Gladiator two swinging. Yeah. Napoleon. I thought swinging a single. Napoleon, which was not. Okay. I'll give you a single. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:48:13 I didn't love Napoleon. Napoleon. I didn't love Napoleon. They shot the horse too early. That's so, that's a hundred percent right. They shot the horse and I told, I mean, Alana saw it. I was, they shot the horse. I was like, aren't you glad you came to this movie with me?
Starting point is 00:48:29 And then it really, a horse took a cannibal to the chest and it was like, never seen that. So you've seen me a fresh movie I've ever seen that before. Oh, he's 88. Yeah, he's older. Ridley Scott is? And he's knighted. He's a, he's a, he's a sur. Sir Ridley Scott
Starting point is 00:48:43 Put some respect on his name Sir Ridley Well he made Alien right Yeah That's one of my favorite movies of all So good Aliens amazing Aliens incredible
Starting point is 00:48:51 Ali's incredible Ridley Scott he made Blade Runner right Yeah right I didn't love Blade Runner Never seen Blade Runner It's ridiculous to me I saw it like two years ago
Starting point is 00:49:02 For the first time On a plane So probably not the best way To see that movie Didn't like it though huh I thought it was okay Okay Yeah I don't really hear that
Starting point is 00:49:10 I don't love it I met Lady Gaga We worked with her on the late late show. And she was so nice. And she said, call me Stephanie. And we were like, okay. And she's like, I need like, because she was like, Lady Gaga is a separate character. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:23 And I can't be Lady Gaga except when I'm being Lady Gaga or I would lose my fucking mind. And I believe that. And I believe that too. I think that's like a good way. You're just sitting there like, I didn't ask you all that. Yeah. I said, what do you call me, Sir Ridley Scott? I'm Sir Ridley Carmel.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Call me man Gaga. Yeah. When I worked at it, when I was a late night writer, I was. I, she, she, why are you dropping the show? Well, Fallon, you're, your, you're, no, not competitor. We didn't, we're on at the same time. We're not competing with much with Fallon right now. I know.
Starting point is 00:49:55 But when we, when we were working there, she used our bathroom once. She came in and we're like, we should clear it out. I was like treating it like, I was like the Secret Service or something. I was like, we should clear out. She's like, guys, you could stay here. And I was like, oh, okay. She's like, I'm just going to cheat. I mean, I didn't really talk to her, but I was like, I was like, guys, let's just clear out.
Starting point is 00:50:15 And she's like, no, you guys can stay here. I could just use a stall. Yeah, she was very nice. Very nice. Very good on earth. Yeah, I know, but I love that she really does commit to whatever. Whatever she's doing, there is no, like, I don't think it comes from a place of pretense or, like, it's weird. Like, I really think she, she means everything she does.
Starting point is 00:50:40 It's art. Like she's fully committed to the art of it. She's fully committed. When you see her talking about something, I think it's the same with Tom Cruise. We're like, when you see him talking about it, he's not doing like the Hollywood schick. He's not doing like the movies. He really thinks that. He means that show.
Starting point is 00:50:55 No, he really thinks there's a ravioli store. Yeah. I feel myself getting closer to the TV. He starts talking. I'm like, uh-huh. Well, because you know he has that thing where he'll look straight down the barrel. Like that's his thing. And he'll do that to you.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I heard the trick is that you have to pretend somebody has like an eye. hear and then you can you can stare at somebody in the eyes forever. I have trouble with eye contact. I like all the time when I'm talking to people, I just got to look away and they'll, you know what kills me is when somebody looks like I'm looking at something. Like, oh, someone just got shot over there. Like I'm just, I'm just breaking eye contact for a second. Yeah, and they look over like nothing's going on. Yeah. I just can't stare at you for a minute straight. I'm sorry. Well, look at me in the eyes. You're doing, you've, you've had very good eye contact so far.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Yeah. It's easier in, thank you. It's easier in here because, you know, you can like switch eye and make eye contact with three different people. Lady Gaga was a great pick. Hey, thank you, brother. I mean that. Appreciate it, man.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Chin looks good. I'm on Swole Patrol. Chin looks good. Hell yeah. Time for your second pick. Mutia Prada. Oh. I think it's cool that she is, I think, I think that Italian you think of fashion.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I think it's cool that she's the legacy of Mario Prada. I think it's cool that she took the company and expanded it. and made it like Mu-Mu and stuff like that. I think it's cool that she lives in the house that she, the apartment she was born in. She just is like, I think it's like, what a cool current Italian. That's great.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I didn't know M-Mu-Mu was Prada. I didn't know that was her. I barely know what Miu-Mu is. And no, she, oh, it's the opposite of Piu-Pew! Yeah. It's when the laser beam goes back. I don't know if a cat does it. It's when a cat does it.
Starting point is 00:52:31 She also, I love that she makes women look like they wash their clothes in the tub. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She, her whole aesthetic is woman who washes her clothes in the tub. But it's cool. It's cool. No, it's the coolest thing. She made like shmottas and like, you know, like frumpy clothes.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Cool. Yeah, she did. Like, that's her whole thing. I have a great anecdote about her. My friend used to be, like, do catering stuff for museums a lot of the time. And like she didn't have, you know, that was like her side gig while she was on auditioning in New York. And she told me that she met Mutra Prada because she did some something at the Guggenheim and they were doing like a collab like Prada, Guggenheim, whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Classic collab. Classic collab. And she was walking around holding a glass like, you know, the tray of white wine for people who walked in and Mutra Prada and she's just staring like like, you know, just doing nothing, staring, holding the glasses of wine. And Mutra Prada walked up to her and stairs are right down the barrel and goes, smile. Whoa. And then she did. She did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I think that's the funniest thing. Sometimes you want that kind of experience. You don't want a pleasant experience. Anna Wintour was mean to me at the Oscars. That's what you want. She called you fat. She called me fat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Get your finger on my drink. No, what did she do? She, so it was her and Anne Hathaway were standing there. We were getting them ready to go out and do their, like patter and present whatever award they were presenting. And... Oh, this was the last Oscars. This was the last Oscars, the most recent one.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Somebody had a question about, or she had a question about whether she said the name of the movie first or the name of the person who won the award first. And I had been told one thing by the powers of the bee. And I answered that question to her the way I understood it, whichever one was first. And then the script coordinator was like next to us and she was like, no, actually, that's wrong. It should be like this. And she was like,
Starting point is 00:54:36 hmm, sounds like something you should have figured out before you told me the answer. And I was like, oh, all right. This devil wears product. It was fucking.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Connection to your pick. But you kind of want her to be like that. 100%. That's the vibe. She can't be, if she was really sweet to you, that sucks. In that moment,
Starting point is 00:54:57 immediately, immediately I was like, this is great. This is so much better than if she was nice to me. Like, it didn't hurt my feelings for a seven. There are some celebrities
Starting point is 00:55:04 that you mean. that you want to be nice to you, Wayne Brady. But like... And then you have a complicated interaction with it. And then he freaks you out. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, you, that's, you... You want her to, you want her to say smile.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Yes. Yeah, you want Prada to say smile. Abertyna, your second and third picks. Oh, okay. So we're going... I'm kind of like adjacent to Lady Gaga. Madonna, of course. Oh, Madonna Chikone.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Yeah. One of the all-time grades. did it all before anybody else did. She's having a real renaissance. Yeah, she is having a renaissance right now, right? People really are finally respecting the work that she put in. Her performance at the World Cup finale. Oh, with like the two, the pitch was,
Starting point is 00:55:53 Madonna, I want you to come out and come out with two soccer players that are, I want you to give it your all. This was a pitch. There was like, I want you to give it you all. I want you to be your 67 years. old, you are going to be in a leotard and give it your all. And next to you, we're not putting dancers.
Starting point is 00:56:11 We're putting two soccer players who don't know the lyrics and didn't want to be there. Yeah, really don't care. Who seemed like the FIFA and let their families in a room with a gunman. Yes. Because FIFA will do that. Yeah, they will. They'll look around for snipers.
Starting point is 00:56:26 That's classic FIFA. Two men who partied themselves out of competitive soccer. Yes. Is that what happened today? Rinaldiño sort of partied himself out of Fat Rinaldo or Rinaldo Fonomeno The nicer Oofinomino Sort of got really bad knee injuries
Starting point is 00:56:45 And then partied himself out of competitive soccer But they both partied themselves out of competitive soccer They partied out Two of the greatest players of all time But the two of them fake driving a dune buggy The Madonna's riding in I was like, I think I'm having a stroke I was loving every second of it
Starting point is 00:57:02 And then I try to tell my wife wife and it doesn't come out right. Fat Ronaldo is not my nickname for him. Everybody calls him Fat Ronaldo, by the way. R9 is the nickname. Okay, but admit that everybody calls him that Renauda. Okay, thank you. He was the first Ronaldo, though.
Starting point is 00:57:17 He was the original, yeah. I said it over the World Cup like 15 times to my wife, and by the end, she said, I don't care that there's two Ronaldo. It's crazy. There are so many Ronaldo. I think it's interesting how many Rinaldos there are. Yeah, I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Maybe fucking text somebody right now. because I'm catching shit in the house. There are a lot of Ronaldo. And there's more on the way. Just bring it up at the wedding. All right. Just make it sound like it was your idea. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I'll settle up. Yeah, I'll sit a lot of beautiful. Yeah, you look beautiful. You know, there's a lot of Ronald. You know, I did that World Cup show this summer. A lot of Rinaldo. Yeah. And then just walk away.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Just then just walk away. Are they spelled the same? Are they spelled the same? Yeah. Wow. Cristiano Ronaldo and whatever Rinaldo's. Ronald and Nazario. Nazario.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I love it. This frame will put He'll put the accent. He'll put Sassone on everything. Let him say Diego Maradonna. I'd like you to say
Starting point is 00:58:11 all of our picks at the end. Sure. I can't do Italian. I do speak a little bit. Lady Gaga. Maradona. Also Italian technically sort of kind of.
Starting point is 00:58:21 That's right. Do you go back far enough? Yeah, because he's of descent. You know. Everyone in Italy. German or Italian. Or in Argentina. Madonna.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Back to Madonna. No, honestly, every decade. Yeah. She's incredible. She's incredible. No one can. Would I, is she the best actress? Obviously not.
Starting point is 00:58:43 But. Come on. Desperately seeking Susan. Not bad. Avita? The note was be yourself. Yeah. And she nailed that.
Starting point is 00:58:52 She nailed being herself for sure. But but don't preach video. Also, doing a lot. Phenomenal. She's incredible. Truth or Dare is one of the best music documentary. Docs. Which one is?
Starting point is 00:59:02 Truth or Dare. Oh, yeah, yeah, crazy. The one with the wrestling, I think you're thinking of girls just want to have fun. That's what I'm thinking of. Papa Don't preach is where she's wearing a T-shirt that says Italians do it better. That's right. Yes. We should all get that. Danny Iello is in that too.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Danny Iello is in that video. Yeah. Jeez. Oh, I will. I don't think we're moving on from Madonna just yet, but I will. Okay, you know what? We're going to talk more about Madonna right after this break. This episode of All Fantasy, Everything is brought to you by Babel.
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Starting point is 01:02:56 See website for more. details. And we're back. Welcome back to All Fantasy Everything. The podcast that's keeping my baby. Gonna keep my baby, yeah. Such a good song. Madonna's a great.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Ray of light, like the early 2000s, also great Madonna. Grandfuss on a dance war is incredible. It's Ray of Light is so good. She just constantly like evolves into something. She's always doing something kind of new, not lately, but like that's fine. I mean, she needs to get, you know, she needs to give her, give her. The territory, though, that she's figuring out. Like, nobody's really done what she's doing now.
Starting point is 01:03:31 No. Aging like this while still trying to be. Well, Sherr does it. I guess Cher did do it. But Cher kind of takes... I think that the thing with her that I, like, love is that she's like, I'm still fucking. Yeah. Everyone.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Yeah. Like, I'm still getting laid. And I will continue to, like... Lead with that. bleed with that at all time. Yeah. My tits are always out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:59 She loved with the World Cup? Love it. Yeah. Love it. You know what? Anytime somebody criticize her for that stuff, I'm like, why? Yeah. Let her be.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Absolutely. Calians do it better. She really does. Great arms. Yeah. Just for Gimspo? Mm-hmm. For all Sean Jordan there?
Starting point is 01:04:19 Yes. And your third pick. Oh, okay. My third page. Hick is oh, my favorite person in the world. Alan Alda.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Alan Alda's Italian? Whoa. I didn't know. I see it. I honestly, I see it. Yes, he is of Italian descent. No idea.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Alphonse. Alphonse? Yeah. That's what Alan is? His full name is Alphonse. Alan Alda spaghetti. How much spaghetti is he? I believe.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Alfonso Joseph da Brutzo. Yes. Whoa. Alphonse. you're going to have to change that last name. Need something a little more clicking. Alfonso Joseph Diabruto. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Holy cow. I did not know that. And he has the great thing that happens with a lot of Italians is that he could be, all Italians could also be Jewish. That's what I thought. All Italians could also be Jewish. I always thought that. I was operating underneath that.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Yeah. Yeah. Good fellas and casino both where I'm like, everyone I thought was Italian, they keep calling Jewish in these movies. And I don't know. Yeah. Well, that's why they always marry each other, too. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:25 That's right. Italians and Jews, they always marry each other. My parents. Yeah. We have a, we have, there's an understanding in Hollywood, too, for the Italians and Jews can just sort of like, they're commingled. Yes. I'm not touching this. I love this town.
Starting point is 01:05:38 You can recognize that, like, Jews play Italians, Italians play Jews all the time? I didn't notice. Well, they're very similar culturally. Hockey is an American to me. It's based on guilt and food. Guilt and mothers. Guilt, food and mothers. So it's very, but yes, Alan Alda, one of the great mench who's in all time.
Starting point is 01:06:00 What a mensch. He is, there is no, there is nothing bad to say about him. He's got that so happy to see him. I know. He's like 90-something now. He's got that sort of clarinet tone to his voice that Ray Romano also has. That I wonder if that's like an Italian thing. There's that like, he's got a sonorous quality.
Starting point is 01:06:18 A very soothing voice. Do you think Ray Romano's voice is a clarinet? I think of it as like a bassoon. Maybe it's a bassoon, but it's a woodwind. Yeah, it's more, that's Chewbacca. It's soothing. That's how many Rubano talks to me. Yeah, yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:06:33 If Chewbacca just slowed down. But he is, again, like, you're always happy to see him. He is kind of like, just also, so delightful as a person. Just seems like very kind of like his spirit is intact or something. It does feel like that. idea why. I have such a a spot for him
Starting point is 01:06:57 because my dad was like he used to have BHSs of MASH and so he would pop those in and I was like this is the greatest
Starting point is 01:07:06 man who ever lived. Yeah, he was cool during war. Yeah. I think you were right. And also in crimes and misdemeanors
Starting point is 01:07:13 which by the way he who shall not be named directed but like it's an incredible, incredible movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:20 What do Woody Allen do? My next big. Crypto. He's a crypto scammer. He's a crypto scammers. That gives me the ick. David, time for your third pick. Taking another supermensch.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Tucci, man. Tucci. That's nice. Just a touch of the tuch. Come on. Tucci man. Tucci man. Tucci man.
Starting point is 01:07:41 I fucking love. I love every part of what he's up to. Yeah, all this stuff. Yeah. I just watched Devil Wirt of Tud of two. Good. Really good. Another big ring in it.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Shout to Caleb. Same big ring. They did not give Caleb enough to do that movie. I wanted him to be. I know. Caleb should have had more to do there. He's such a funny person. Like to leave that, I mean, he's in it. He's great. He's charming.
Starting point is 01:08:02 But to leave that comedic talent. No, they left a lot of meat on the bone. So much meat on the bone. He's the, he's the secretary. You get, every time you come in the office, you got this guy. I'll tell you this. Give me the spin-off TV show. Give me the Devil Wears Prada spin-off TV show about the desk.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Maybe you were obviously Merrill Street. You call it the desk. You need a medici to fund that. You would need a medici. To fund it. Streep's not in it. Streets out doing whatever streets doing. No, Caleb runs it.
Starting point is 01:08:27 He has all the underling. Yeah. I'm in. But Tucci also, the thing about him is that he's sort of now a lifestyle expert. What a dream. Like he really figured out the hack, which is like, can you fly me in Italy and I'll just hang out there and make a simple pasta for you guys? I want so badly to convince someone to just let me live my life for money. Wouldn't it be great?
Starting point is 01:08:51 That's what he's doing. I know. I was going to do this anyway. He's not on his second Italian travel show. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 01:09:01 And I think he also has a line of pots and pans or something. He does. He has cookbooks. Really? I have a Tucci cookbook. Wow. It's good, but it's like, it's like lemon pasta. It's exactly what you think it is. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Great forearms. Yeah. He's done four seasons of just Italian tourism. Yeah. There's not that many towns in Italy. Game. I know. I want to go to Italy and I want somebody to pay for it.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Okay. He's got to be getting to some pretty like, you're trying to squeeze the juice out of it. By season four, you're like, all right, now we're in like the, the outside of that. He's just like weird suburbs. Yeah. But I think those shows are just ASMR.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Like, I don't even think it matters that it's, it's just like. I've watched it but never watched it. Right. I don't know what goes on. The formula is so simple. It's Stanley Tucci. in an amazing outfit, eating some pasta that you'd like to have,
Starting point is 01:09:56 and then doing one interesting thing. And then it's over, and we're on to the next episode. It's all you need it to be. Yes. You're on vacation with him. Yeah. What a hack, truly a hack. He figured out the hack.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Great actor. Great, yes. Big Night? Big Night is an incredible movie. Great little movie. People really do not give it enough credit. And I'd like to eat that timpani. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:20 That like sort of spaghetti casserole thing they made. Oh, that movie is so good. It's basically a spaghetti casserole. I don't know how else, but like... That's fine. That's all I needed to hear. Tony Shalub is in it. Big Shalub, dude.
Starting point is 01:10:32 And there you go, a Jewish man playing in Italian. That's right. Well, Shalub's not Jewish. Oh, he's not? No, I think Shalub is like Lebanese. Oh, I thought he was Jewish. We'll take him. We will take him.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Sorry. Tony Shalub. Lebanese. That's right. You just knew that, huh? I know my Shalub. He's got all the Lebanese down. I'm doing kind of a tall, uh, Zoftig Shalub.
Starting point is 01:10:52 thing with my life. A Rubenesque Shalub is sort of my goal. Give me that casserole. Now that's a dessert. He didn't change his name. Alphonse Alphonse went out of his way to be like Yeah. Yeah. No. Tucci Shalub. Rolling with it.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Sean, time for your third pick. Poverati. Oh, Luciano. Wow. Give me a little Pavarotti. You know, put some spice. I've never been to the opera. I want to go so bad. Anyone been to an opera? Yes. Yeah. It's a great for you. Super fun. Been to the ballet. I've been to the ballet. I've been to the opera in Italy.
Starting point is 01:11:24 You piece of shit. Do you dress up? No. Do you wear a hockey jersey? I want a fanny bag. You walk in America's in the building. I was naked except for a fanny pan. Brought a couple cheeseburgers with it.
Starting point is 01:11:33 I dressed like Poverati. I rolled in on a Vespa in a Hawaiian shirt and shorts. I mean, I love, he really, talk about lifestyle. He really did. Have you, I, going around the summer for whatever reason are like a Poverati fit picks, put some of my Instagram stories. He's out there. He really is.
Starting point is 01:11:52 He's like, yes. Big cell phone. There's one of him grilling. He didn't have a mustache. He had a beard. He had a beard. Yeah. Now, the opera is one of those things that is like you think it's going to be a slug and boring.
Starting point is 01:12:05 I think I'd be there for it now. By the way, 2026 promoting opera. And you go and if you're a human with a heart, you're going to get moved. You're going to get moved. You will be moved by it. I get moved by things. Yes. You're always moved.
Starting point is 01:12:22 I do. moved a lot. You get moved on the right. Yeah, I am the same way. Look at the phone. Look at the phone on that guy. Whoa. I love it. Is there anything better than that picture? By the way, so much skin damage, like, from just not
Starting point is 01:12:34 wearing a lick of SPF. He's beat red in that picture. That's the way to be. I kind of think that's awesome. It's kind of great. He's got the insurance on the rental car. Drive it. Drive it like you own it. You know what I mean? Also, I like a shirt
Starting point is 01:12:48 that could be a couch. Yeah, that's what he is. Or a wallpaper. for a scarf. I like it because you could match that shirt up to several different things. Yeah, he wanted to emphasize a lot of himself. He was a Ruben-esque figure himself. He sure was.
Starting point is 01:13:02 I love it. Pavarotti, what's your favorite Pavarotti? Couldn't tell you. That's right. You came on a Vespa. Yeah, he's dope. That phone is my favorite Poverati. In the interest of time, we'll keep moving.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I'm going to go ahead and take one of the great painters of all time. and the main reason I'm taking her, one of the greatest things to use your mouth to say of all time, the artist Artemisia Gentileshi. Wait, wow. You really went in. Artemisia Gentileshi. Everyone take it.
Starting point is 01:13:38 We're going to go around the circle. Say it. Atomacia gentlesi. Great. Alpertina. Artemisia gentlesi. What a pleasure. David.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Artemisia gentilesi. Isaac, I'd love to hear you say it. Artemisia gentilesi. Put a little spit. Altenamesia gentileshi. There it is. One more time. One more time.
Starting point is 01:13:54 One more. One more. One more. One more. Now I'm doing like Inglorious bastards on you. Bravo. Bravo. Oh, I've seen a lot of this.
Starting point is 01:14:04 She, her painting of, what is it? The beheading. What is the? Yeah. Who's it? Medusa? No, she has a Medusa. She has in the Louvre.
Starting point is 01:14:15 There's a. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen. That's cool. I did not know that that was. was this woman's Judith and Holofernes.
Starting point is 01:14:21 That's the painting. Yeah. Is that where the man's head is on the platter? Where she's just, it's Judith just like, yuck in his, like, cutting his head off.
Starting point is 01:14:29 It's an action shot. There's blood everywhere. Just like sawn it off. Yeah. But she was one of the great, like, Italian painters. And like... And a woman.
Starting point is 01:14:37 And a woman. So now I have a woman on my list. Which is huge for me. Big gift. Big gift. But also just one of my favorite painters of that year. When you see them,
Starting point is 01:14:47 there's so much like... Yeah. life and, like, violence and everything in those paintings, that it takes you back to that. Like, look into her story. It's there's fucked up shit that happened that, like, relates to some of the paintings. Of course. And it makes those paintings come alive in a very specifically. She was, she was, she was, she was trying to put some of her rage onto.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Into a man being beheaded by a woman. She probably had her period. Yeah, that's exactly right. I didn't want to say it. Thank you, Albertina. That's why she was so angry. That's what the blood represents. She wanted to behead these men.
Starting point is 01:15:27 But like just a fucking beautiful Renaissance era painter. The paintings are amazing. Check out some art of. It is very rare that you hear of like women painters in the Renaissance. Absolutely. Yes, I know. Incredibly rare. Even like in the 1900s, it was like more common.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Well, they were usually supporting male painters and they were just as good. if not better. You're talking about Diego Rivera situation? Well. And Lee Krasner.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Oh yeah. Yeah. Lee Krasner was a better artist. Everybody knows that. It's a Lee Krasner based podcast. I know who all these people are.
Starting point is 01:16:04 For sure. This is great. Yeah. Yep. I'm talking about it. Yeah, I'm going in. My, my throw down is that
Starting point is 01:16:13 Jackson Pollock, not great. Drunk. No, that's okay. I think that's a good take. Yeah. I don't know. I've never really got it.
Starting point is 01:16:21 People talk about it. I'm like, have you seen some of his paintings where there's like actual garbage in it and you're like, he just had that on his shoe. I know he just stepped on. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:16:29 There's some real emperor's new clothes stuff going on. Yeah. The best thing that happened to him is that he died. I mean, it kind of made him famous. Sweet release. And I see peace and love to every single person related to him. I, I, yes.
Starting point is 01:16:49 I'm going to take Tarantino with my fourth pick. Okay. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Wanted a director. Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Didn't necessarily, I mean, there are some other great Italian directors out there. One of the great foot fetishists of our time. And that's why I took him. Okay. Love feet. Big foot guy. Haven't seen the movies. I'm a big foot guy.
Starting point is 01:17:08 I'm a big foot guy. I'm actually into Bigfoot's foot. Would you not agree, though, the worst person to sit next to on a plane? Can't imagine somebody worse. I would. I don't. I don't want to talk to you. I think you'd be pretty excited for the first half hour.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Actually, I'd like to talk to him because if you've seen him on BET, it's hilarious. Oh, yeah, that'd be great. Have you seen that? Yes. Or he just like, he just bazzes out. Yeah. He's like, I don't have a computer. Ricky Ross just sent me the tracks.
Starting point is 01:17:36 What are you doing? Yeah, he goes crazy. No, I've never seen it. It's, I'll show it to you after this. It's crazy. It's so amazing. You, there was a surprise and hesitance in me. your voice, do you not like the motion pictures of Quentin Tarantino?
Starting point is 01:17:50 No, I think he's super talented. No, I think his movies are incredible. I think he is insufferable. Oh, yeah, he's insufferable. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm taking the collected body of work, not necessarily like dinner with the guy. I love the vista. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:04 That's right. The vista rules. The vista rules, and the new Beverly is awesome. He's getting machine gunned off. I've had some good times of the new Beverly. Yes. Yeah, definitely. What do you call there?
Starting point is 01:18:16 I thought that was a great time. Yeah, it's the kind of place where I'm like, I've never seen like, I don't know, like one time I was like, I've never seen the three stooges. I should go there. And then it's ultimately like me and like 70 men with dandruff. Yeah. Alone. That are all there alone. You walked in, they all got road by like, oh my God, I'm going.
Starting point is 01:18:39 And I was like, oh, God. I should have wore a black shirt that showcases my dandrum. I guess I'm the only one here. I saw who frame Roger Abbott there. Great time. Great time. Well, he is preserving. He has the thing that is like, Scorsese has a charm and the storytelling capability.
Starting point is 01:18:55 He has that. He, he, he, I think he's trying to emulate that, but he has, talk about cocaine energy. The milk's gone sour. Yeah, it's, it's something is a rye. Yeah. Something's a foot. Something's a foot. Something's a foot.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Ah, something's a foot. A foot. No fun intended. I don't know, Tina Resol, ladies a gentleman. You have a heart out, so let's rush through the rest of the end. I can't wait to do my eyes too. You know who commits, who will give it to you? Go on.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Giovanni Rubisi. Oh, shut the fuck up. What are you talking about? No. Of all the Italians? I can. Yes, you can. All right.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Sean's a Scientologist. When is the last time he's committed, though? I feel like I haven't seen him in quite some time. And maybe not. I'm thinking of the gift. Avatar. You're thinking of the gift? It's a good movie.
Starting point is 01:19:41 I like boiler room. I like dumb guy stuff. Yeah. I like Giovanni Rubisi. And if we're not picking the guy. That's amazing. Well, we're not picking the guy. No, I'm picking Giovanni.
Starting point is 01:19:49 He gives amazing performances. Gone in 60 seconds. I see Giovanni Ribisi in my neighborhood in our neighborhood. Really? All the time. He lives somewhere around. Wow. You know who else was in our neighborhood?
Starting point is 01:20:01 Michael Pena lives in our neighborhood. Oh, yeah. We saw him eating dinner. He was on our show. He saw him eating dinner. He came on the soccer show. Yeah. I was like, where do you live?
Starting point is 01:20:09 He's like, I live in, well, I've docks to myself on here before. He lives in Atwater Village. Wow. Yeah, he's in the neighborhood. A lot of Scientologists being discussed today on this podcast. Careful. I'm not trying to get dropped out that. I just, Rubicese.
Starting point is 01:20:22 I didn't think it would be so poorly received. I think he's a good actor. I love watching him. You didn't think that we're putting together a list of 20 Italians. Yeah. And you thought Giovanni Rubisi? Of all? Is it the end?
Starting point is 01:20:34 Perhaps the culture that has contributed the most. No, yeah. Like Tony Suprano is even on this. Yeah. Fictional and otherwise. Have we taken any fictional yet, though? Not yet. I didn't want to be the first one to take a fictional thing.
Starting point is 01:20:44 No. No one has. Tried to keep you real. You know what? I picked him. It's on my fucking list. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Lean in. David. I'm taking it. I'm taking a fictional Italian. I'm taking Rocky Balboa. There he is. There you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:57 And also the person who played him, Sylvester Stallum famously. We're saying, we're saying pigs. Yeah. Yeah. Are you going to take both of them? I had kind of a one two. It's a one too. It's a one too.
Starting point is 01:21:09 It's a one too. Balboa is great, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Friend to animals? Yeah, got a big-ass dog.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Big ass dog. Got that ball. Got a robot. Hitting that meat. He's sort of a Medici for Pauley. Complicated May December best friend situation. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Fingers gloves. I was Polly's best friend so old. Pretty weird. I was his best friend so old. They're making a Polly. Yeah. Oh, Mr. Philadelphia. Mr. Philadelphia.
Starting point is 01:21:35 They're making a Mickey movie. You know that? I did hear that. Yeah. Jeremy L. White's going to be young Mick. Wow. Is he going to do the voice?
Starting point is 01:21:41 I bet. Use the voice. Wait, a Mickey movie or a Polly movie? A Mickey movie. No, I don't want to. Jeremy Allen White's going to be young Mick. Interesting. Like a boxer in the 40s, 50, Jewish boxer in the 40s?
Starting point is 01:21:53 Oh, because it'll be when he was boxing. Yeah. Yeah. I guess I think of Adam is. And how he like got out of whatever happened to him. I'm not out on that. I'm in on that. I'm not super in.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Yeah. I'm in. God, that's so smart. Just like for IP purposes. Yeah. Who's the cousin in that movie? Yeah, that's my bitch. You know who I think about.
Starting point is 01:22:10 The cousin. The cousin in... The cousin from a time to kill. Yeah, we're doing a whole thing on him. My other cousin, Vinnie. Yeah, as long as there's any IP attached. I think about Sly's Rocky's sunglasses in a... That he wears the mixed funeral a lot.
Starting point is 01:22:27 His funeral fit. I think about that rant when he's yelling and you just kind of lose the plot about what he's saying. When Stallone is doing it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. It sounds like a tape getting eaten. It's like if you hear the Peanuts parents fighting. But I have to say that like,
Starting point is 01:22:50 inspiration. I mean, like, incredible that he wrote that whole thing. I watched the documentary about it because I'll watch every documentary. Yeah. And also an artist, a painter. That's right. And a sculptor, I believe.
Starting point is 01:23:05 No, I think he's a really interesting guy. I think so, too. He's a Renaissance man. He is a Renaissance man. Albertina, of your last two picks. Oh, I go double whammy? I was trying to pick between Tony Soprano and just Argentinians, but I'm going to say
Starting point is 01:23:20 Argentinians. Just in general? Yeah. Argentinian. A lot of them are Italian. I've had to try to pick between those two things. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:29 One pick is Argentinians because let's just be honest. There's so many messy, Maradona. Medellano. Me. Yeah. You know, like. Havitina Rizzo, Andres nocione. There's so many.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Many Italians there, many, many Italians. The food is very Italian. It is a lot of meat, yeah. Well, it's a lot of, yeah, it's like. And pocket foods. Yes. Yeah. Pocket foods.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Yeah. The expressions are very Italian. We did this when I was shooting the show. We would like go to two restaurants that represented each country. So you go to Argentinian place and a Brazilian place when they were playing each other. And that Argentinian guy's last name was Ferrari. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Well, yeah. Pretty good restaurant. Yeah, although like sort of like working class Italians and people that worked in like the fields in Italy and stuff, they've all moved to Argentina. And a lot of, there's a lot of Italian ancestry in Argentina. But also if you see them talk and you don't, if you don't speak Spanish and don't speak Italian and you saw an Argentina and Italian person talk, you think they're both Italian. Well, they think they do like, they do this. They do this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:37 They do this. They do this. Sure. I was eating with an Italian family recently. It's more than I want to get into. Yeah. But the little boy was talking, and he goes like this. Really?
Starting point is 01:24:52 That's the coolest shit I ever seen. He was like 12. It's just in you guys. It's so cute, especially when you know that that has something to do with like balls or something. Like, you know what I mean? It's always like that. You mean to tell me, I can't get a mute card? I don't know what he was saying because we were at Cheesecake Factory, but.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Wow. It was real weird. But this is a New York thing, so this is not so much an Italian thing, but maybe a New York thing. But I sometimes find myself saying, like, the phrasing of, like, how I run sentences sometimes. If I'm really Lucy Goosey or having gotten any sleep, I'll be like, are you kidding me with this guy? Like, I'm always like, the noun goes at the end of the world. It's very Italian. I still have a little bit of that.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Okay. So Argentinians and there's a lot of them. Look them up. They're mostly playing soccer. And, okay, controversial last pick. Giovanni Rubisi off the board. Right, is he off the board? His sister's still on the board.
Starting point is 01:25:51 The guy from the Sixth Slats commercial also off the board. Okay, Bruce Springsteen and the East Street, most of the East Street band. Bruce Springsteen's mom was Italian. So much like you know. Don't you try to fucking take Bruce Springsteen for us. His mom was Italian. Okay, but his last name is Jewish. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:26:17 He's Irish. This is Irish? This is always where this was going to go. No, not at all. I think it's S-T-E-N, not E-I-N. Oh, no, he's not at all. It's E-E. Wow.
Starting point is 01:26:29 It's not E-I. Wow. Yeah. Not even close. He is Italian. This is devastating. And Little Stephen, also Italian. I was think of Max Weinberg.
Starting point is 01:26:39 My bad. No. No. So, one of the grades. Oh, here's an article, The Secret Jewish History of Bruce Bristin. You let me read this. Where is the article? Set your source.
Starting point is 01:26:50 No. Set your source. I can see it. It's weird. Where is it? It's real. It's the forward. Jewish independent nonprofit.
Starting point is 01:26:57 They're like anything. Just let's go. We're like, find any little. Find any little thing. We don't have the time right now, but it says 100% Jewish and Albertina's wrong. Right here in the art. Okay, wow. That does say that.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Incredible. Pictures and everything. I was trying to tell the Jewish managers, produced or something. Okay. I was just thinking of people like big cultural impacting and also, you know, front of mine because I went to see him recently.
Starting point is 01:27:20 And I was like, yeah, those guys. Most of them were Italian. How long was the show? The show I went to, I want to say it was almost three hours. Yeah. Yeah, it's long. Yeah, running back and forth the whole time.
Starting point is 01:27:34 And this guy is putting in the work. Let me tell you. That's what they said. And Little Stephen still dressed. like a pirate. I love that. I love that he's sticking with the... But by the way, you can't stop. The reason I mentioned also Leo Stephen is because
Starting point is 01:27:45 then it also like, it's kind of adjacent to the Sopranos because like, you know, I wanted to name all the Sopranos because it is the best show on television ever made. And, and yeah, he really he really nailed it. He's got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:00 He's got it. He's our great American rock star. It's a great American rock star. So Madonna and Bruce Springsteen. I mean, come on. What a group. What a group. David, your final. claiming him. I'm taking sly. I wanted to take sly. You're doubling up. I wanted to take sly and rocks.
Starting point is 01:28:13 So now you get Copeland, too. I wanted Frankenstein and his monster. By the way, Frankenstein, born in Naples. Victor Frankenstein. Oh, my God. Wow. Wow. It could all happen. It could all happen. Sean, your final pick? We came up earlier, but Antonio Magiati from Inglorious Bastards. The fake persona. The fake persona. The alter ego. Yeah, it's just the way
Starting point is 01:28:35 that he says. I mean, that's seen. Marguerite. One more time. Magarete. Well. He's also in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, too. Antonio Margariti directs one of those movies that Nardo was in when he was doing the spaghetti westerns. That's right. That's not that in. That's right. My final pick, I'm going to go ahead and take Vivaldi. Wow.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Classy. You're classy. Classy. I'm a classy. I don't know who Vivaldi is. He was a composer. I would have, I thought you were going to take Luigi Manjiani. No one took him? That's what my honorable. mentions. Oh, honorable mentions is rotten on my end.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Okay, let's go into our honorable mentions. We've got to get you out of here. Okay. Okay. Honorable mentions just because they did do the thing. Charles Ponzi, Ponzi scheme. Francescoe. The jacuzzi family.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Wow. Tell me, how many births is that family responsible for? Oh, they really did make jacuzzi. That's where jacuzis came from. John Cazal. Amazing. Incredible. Like the glasses? I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 01:29:40 He was in the Godfather. He... The conversation, the Godfather. Dog Day afternoon. He's a really... Who wasn't he in the dog day afternoon? He was... He was...
Starting point is 01:29:49 He's the bald guy. He's a... Oh, okay. He died of cancer. He was engaged to... He died too soon. Merrill Street. And Francis Ford Coppola.
Starting point is 01:30:00 No, what he said to him. Francis Ford Carcopola. I love that cheesy bread. Yeah. And he's a... Isabella Rossellini. Isabella Rosalina. And finally, Kelly Rippa.
Starting point is 01:30:10 That's it. Kelly Rippa's Italian? Yes. Oh. What do you think? Oh, she was Jewish. That thing's, that's sunshine? That's all Italian.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Isaac, do you, oh, wait, let me go through. So here's what we actually took, Albertina Rizzo. You took Martin Scorsese, Madonna, Alinalda, all Argentinians and the East Street band minus the drummer. David, you took Leonardo da Vinci, Miucci Prada, Stanley Tucci, Rocky, and Sylvester Stallone. I'm a lot of Silvesters. Sean, you took Robert De Niro, Stephanie Germanada, Luciano Pavarado, Giovanni Ribisi, and Antonio Margariti. I took Frank Sinatra, Galileo Galileo, Ghalerite, Artemisia, Gentlyi, Quentin Tarantino, and Antonio Vivaldi.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Oh, me. I'll take Ferrari. Oh, right, there we go. Yes. I'm wearing the shoes. We want to hear your, we all want to hear your picks. It's up at All Fantasy Podcast at Gmail.com. Shout out to everyone in the All Fantasy Everything. Patreon.
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