All Fantasy Everything - Mom Jams (w/ Jason Concepcion)

Episode Date: February 19, 2026

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This is a headgum podcast. All right, here we go. Yeah, FastBenders in 300. Welcome to another brand new episode of All Fantasy Everything. The podcast that Fantasy drafts anything and everything from the world of pop culture. On today's episode, we are drafting Mom Jams. Our guest today's our good friend, Jayson and Concepcion. We'll be here.

I'm your host, Ian Carmel. With me, as always are my friends and comedian, Sean Jordan and David Borey. And yes, we were talking about the movie, the 300 seconds. Can we leave Fastbender in three? Can we leave the Fastbender thing in? As the beginning. I'm happy with it if you are, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I don't feel no kind of it.

I forgot the Fast Pender was in the 300. Yeah. Remember that summer it was everybody's favorite movie? Yeah, that was. That was when we thought Zach Snyder was going to get some shit done. And then Sucker Punch came out, right? That was, was that him? I like Sucker Punch is kind of a weird one.

Wasn't there another one Iron Eagle or something? Nope. That was Lou Gossett Jr. jam back every day. Oh my God, Iron Eagle. Jesus Christ. No, there's like a, there's like one based around dog fighting in, the similar not skycapting in the world tomorrow. Oh, dog

fighting planes. I thought you're talking about dogs, like dogs fighting. I did too for a second. I was like no, I don't think there's ever been a dog fighting movie. A 300 style movie about an inspirational dog fighting movie? It's like rocking. Just a dog that came up out of the dirt. An airbud.

Airbud. That kind of an airbud. Airbud and yawksug. Airbus. Airbus, QFC. That's why you're, you're going. you got the Emmy. That's right. It's literally that joke. It's a criminal that you don't have another one for that. It was a script for ChewfC,

everybody ChufC. I mean, I guess that movie Fresh is kind of about dog fighting in a sad way. In a, yeah, in a very sad way. Yeah, that movie bums me out. Is there a dogfight, like, subplot in it? I didn't know that. Yeah. How do they've ever seen Fresh?

There's like a... The little Cuban boy wants to fight the dog, and Fresh doesn't want to because he loves him. And then he ends up killing the dog. He has to kill the dog in order, yeah. That's part of his plot. to trick the man. I'm not going to watch that.

It's good. It's really good. John Carlo Esposito going crazy. Well, boy, I bust the dope moves. I bust the dope moves. Almost bought a t-shirt that said I bust the dope moves.

John Fesito exclusively goes crazy. He goes crazy and everything he's in. You're not seeing a lot of laid back Carlo Esposito, right? He's in so much. He'll murder a period piece. Oh, yeah. Put John Carlo Esposito in a jazz

true. How many hats do you think he owns? Oh, man. You walk into Giancarlo S. We've talked about this. Walk in closet for sure. This has come up. This exact conversation. Specifically, John Carlo Espezito? Yes. Am I crazy? Am I making this up? We've done a lot of this. I swear to God, we've talked about this exact thing. How many hats

he specifically has? I'd be like maybe you've talked about this exact. Or I was looking at the mirror. With your other friends. With your skate park friends. Or I was holding a machete in the mirror and doing predator. You and your skate park, buddy. He's talking about John Carlo Esposito. Passing your blunts around spreading COVID all over the place.

Smoking dubies. How old is he? He wasn't do the right thing. I'm going to guess he's 67. Oh my God. Fucking 67. I don't know. Nobody else can even get.

Damn. Now, what European country was he born in? Oh, my God. I've seen an interview. There's an interview where he's an interview on set of Do the Right Thing, Portugal. Where he talks about it because he came from there to New York City. Yes. He is black and

black and Italian But he's not from Italy Oh fuck I've seen he was born I've seen him talk He has Italian citizenship Okay so you were But he was born

Weirdly No one would know this Bethlehem Copenhagen Denmark No not like Jenny Jones We just found out Do you know Jenny Jones was born in Bethlehem Prominent Palestinian

Jenny Jones Was born in Petclam My crazy teen needs boot camp Jenny Jones Born in the same place as Jesus That's so wild. Yeah. Yeah.

What do you think we were drafting to where we found that out? Stuff to watch when you're home from school sick. That's a great idea. That is a good idea. We should draft that. What were we drafted? I can't remember. Not bad.

90s cultural. Oh, 90s cultural ice. I may have overreached a little bit with that. No. No. When you agree with me, it makes me. The voice to the devil without a microphone. By the studio, by the way.

Harpers in the studio. No mic back there. What's up? This is a second episode where we bring up Mobeda Blues in like a three episodes span too. Yeah. We've been having a weird. He's been having a weird thing. Yeah.

Yeah. He's in all kinds of stuff. He's great. Wasn't he in Idol Wild? I don't think I ever saw Idol Wild. A lot of people didn't. He's in a maximum overdrive. Was he?

That Stephen King, cocaine-fueled. The machines have taken over from like 86. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, I remember that. Doesn't say he was in Idol Wild. He wasn't, I'm thinking of Mo Better Blues. Okay. He's in a movie.

He's in a Mobetter Blues is when he was dating the white woman and everybody's making fun of him, but she's French. Right. He was in Carlito's Way, Rise to Power, and Chupacra Dark Seas. I mean, who wasn't in Carleito? I was in Carlyto-Way-Rise to Power. The second one? Yeah, shit. You were in that.

Yeah, I was a man. I'm just a Puerto Rican. It had, uh, J. Taps. He's in Tats? You in Tats? Was he in school days? He was in school days.

He was in taps. Guy works. Guy works. Dog, I'm telling you. Usual suspect, school days. I mean, King of New York iconic. Yeah. He was in Megalopolis.

Well, okay. When you watch King of New York, do you remember it? You hear people reference it. When you sit down and watch King of New York, are you like this movie's iconic? Is this the Frank White movie? Yes, it is the Frank White movie. Christopher Walkin dancing a lot. I will say that I watched it recently.

Okay. And I still think it's great. I loved it when I was a kid. But I do think that Ableferra, the director, there's like a little bit on the action side that you're like, I wish you had more chops in that regard. But I like, there's a weirdness to it that I love. Yeah, it's a weird fucking movie.

It's weird. Lawrence Fishburn is like the first, like, hip-hop dance. gangbanger on film in that movie. It's just, I think it's... What year is that movie, though? I'm going to guess Was he still Larry? 90 or 89. He was still Larry back.

90. Yeah. Yeah, what year was colors? Colors was... 91, I want to say. No? No, is it 80s? I want to guess... 88, 89. 88. Yeah. You're on fucking point. Maria Kachita Alonzo.

Come on. Come on now. I love colors. Don Cheadle was rocket, right? Purple? I am a night. Mar walking. Colors. I used to walk around with so many, so many blue du rags on my person and my neighborhood in Sue Falls listening to colors on my disc band.

Why did you have more than one duress? I had like five. Why did you have one out of the pocket? I'd have one out of the pocket. I'd have, so I'd do this thing right here and I'd have the hat on over it. I'd have one in the shirt, like fold it up like I thought you were supposed to do it. So you dressed like a fucking mechanic? I dress like a fucking mechanic because what I did.

No bandanas? All due rags? Bandana. Oh, no, bandanas. Sorry, not D-Regs. We also used to call those D-Regs, by the way, because we didn't know what they were. Anytime I got a problem, I just put my fist in. Colors!

Now, I haven't seen that movie in a minute. That movie's good. That's a movie that just thinking now in my mind, I'm like, is it racist now thinking about it? That was kind of the point was Pac-Man was like, yeah. It was like, these are the police policing California. Duval was cool, but Sean Penn was nuts. But he taught him how to be cool. Yeah, yeah.

Because everybody liked Robert Duvall, and he was teaching. Sean Penn how to not be a prick. But Sean Penn was getting a big head because people started to know him, started calling him the Pac-Man. Yeah. And then he was feeling himself dating that Hispanic woman. And then Larry walks out of the room after he just bones that girl. And she's like, this is me too, Pac-Man. I remember being a kid like, damn.

I remember being a kid and thinking like, oh, man, I don't want to get involved with gangs. Yeah. I thought the exact opposite. I thought it looked so cool. It looked so cool to me. Even though they were getting, like, actually killed in that movie, it's still a cool. Yeah, colors look brutal. That was not like, when they were all in the boot pen,

I thought it was one of the coolest things in the world. That looked bad. That wasn't even like Scorsese style where it's like, by the end he teaches you it's not fun. Colors was like, this never looks fun. All bad. Yeah. Colors. I think actually iced tea.

Dennis Hopper. Whoa. I did know that for some reason. I did know that. I did know that. Wow. Dick Duval. Mario Lopez is.

in this film. Oh, damn. Yeah. In colors? Yeah. Music by Herbie Hancock. Herbie gets into some weird stuff. He's done some great soundtrack work. Yeah. Herbie in the 80s. Fat Albert? Fat Albert Rotunda? Okay. I'm sold. Hey, brother. Nice skin, brother. This guy right here. This guy right here. This is

Sean Cougar, Mellon Jordan on Instagram. This guy right here. That's my man, 50 grand. Get a spray tan. Hold your hand. Imagine you can hear it, but we're holding hands right now. Or you can watch us on YouTube. I'm sprinkling it in. Shit's on YouTube. Sprinkling it in. Where can people see you? February 12th is when this comes out, I believe.

Omaha, Nebraska next weekend with Kyle Canane. And then New Orleans in March. That's right. And then watch if I don't tell special, please. Sorry to keep harping on it. Well over six billion views at this point. It's the most viewed. One of the widely, most widely viewed things on the internet.

Bad Bunny-like history. He's hitting baby shark numbers. Yeah. Damn. It's huge, dude. Weirdly, it hasn't gotten you any extra work. No, it won't. It won't. It won't. All those numbers mean nothing. It's not going to get me any work. It's like your polio vaccine. You gave it to the world and you said, I don't want anything for this.

Here it is. Yeah, just take it. Let it heal the world. I'm here. This is enough for me right here. It kept Tahoe Blue. That's right. It healed the Bay. It's all I need to do right here. They'll be kids.

It kept Austin weird, dude. Thank God. Oh, do you guys hate that? Keep Austin. They invented it. Oh, you guys stole it. Oh, I thought it was backwards. Yeah.

We did South Dakota take it too? Tread lightly, my friend. How long do I need to live in Portland to be a Portlander? You'll never happen. And you're qualified to say that because you're from Beaverton. I'm from the Portland metro area. Let go on my hand. Nope.

Let go on my hand. No. One more than ever than we hold. This is the time that we need to hold. This is the test. I'm breaking. Tell me everything you hate about me. Like we're in the skulls?

What's the worst thing you've ever done? No, you're a Portlander. You're a great Portlander. David Bore is here. Cool. A Jokes 87 on Instagram. I got nothing to promote. Had it, babe.

Yeah. Jason Concepcion is here. Hello. Where would you like to direct the people? Network on Instagram, network on blue sky. Listen to my podcast, X-ray vision, listen to the official Game of Thrones podcast, and there's other stuff.

You can just Google it. I'm out there. There's stuff. You stoked for, what's it called? Why is the new show? A night of the Seven Kingdom. Yeah, night of the seventh. Oh, something that's all.

It's wonderful. It'll be at, by the time that we do this, yeah. It will be almost over. Really? When does it come out? It looks like it's going to be, like they're trying to make it too funny.

Am I out of my mind? It is a tonal shift. There's some humor in it, but it lands. But it's going to be, have you seen it already. I have seen it. It's going to be, so it's good? I have seen the whole thing.

Well, it'll be out by the time. Because I couldn't get into House of Dragon. It's worth starting. Because it's too dark and complicated. Everyone's got the same name. They all look the same. I'm into Hoos of the Drugan. I just didn't enjoy it.

I'm well into Hoos of the Drugan. You really? Who's the Drugan? Who's of the droogin? I'm in the same. And I come in the living room. We'll watch Hoos of the Drugan. Who's of the Drugan?

Who's of the Rogen? I like it. It's got a hell of Drugans in it. What's not to like? I liked it. It was just hard to follow because everybody's got the same. The Drugans was what I liked the least. The Drugans.

I'm into the Durugans, dude. That's fair. Hi on Dugans. Check that out. Okay. So it's pretty, you like it? Yes, it's good. I can't wait.

I'm excited. You will enjoy it. But needing a new show. Yeah. We just watched Department Q, the wife and I, on Netflix. Good little, good little, good a little, good little, great. Gray's Anatomy, about 400 episodes for you. It's too much.

That's a hill, I'm not going to climb. I know that about myself. It had a global pandemic and I climbed it, and it was great. Wow. I've been wanting to watch it my whole life and I finally did. I could be in prison with the collected works of Grey's Anatomy. Yeah. And push-ups, and I would do push-ups.

I don't think there's any situation where I could ever do that. Sean, did you watch the documentary about the, um, Gray's Anatomy writer who lied about? We have it. I didn't watch that. He's got to watch it. That's good. I keep forgetting about it.

Yeah. It is, she lied about having cancer, right? And like, worked her storylines in. Yes. And like, her fake cancer storylines?

Yeah. It sounded nuts. But it also didn't sound like she did anything illegal. Watch it. All right. Because she goes, like what you just said, she goes like,

A full football field. You guys have you guys ever known somebody who lied about cancer? Dude, okay. I don't know, do we? My mom's friend lied about being pregnant. When I was a kid, my mom's friend, she's like, I'm pregnant. And my mom goes, I think she's lying. I'm like, that's cold-blooded.

Why do you think that she was lying? Wow. Four months she lied about being pregnant. And then my mom's like, she goes, plan me a baby shower. And she goes, I'm going to plan you a baby shower, like had a stand-up with her. And then her friend was like, I'm not pregnant. Wow.

My mom has, we have a family friend who, she's a gambling addict and she lost the house. And they didn't know until like one day people came to the house and was like, you got to get it out of the fucking house. Damn. She'd spent like the kids' college funds and everything. That is so buck.

Slots? Yeah, it's just table games of all types. Dites out in front of the house. It's got to be on the table. She tried to pimp out my mom at one point. What? was like, hey, I've got a double date. She's like, I'm going to Atlantic City with this guy on a date.

He's bringing a friend, like, can you come and just like accompany me, like, blah, blah, blah, dress up. And then, like, she kept on being like, and really wear, like, the nice ear. Put some shine on it. And then, like, just as like they were about to leave, it became apparent that it was like a pay situation. Also, you have to fuck this guy. Yeah. My mom was like, what are you talking about? I'm not going.

What's happening? We're going to have fun. You have to bone the guy. He paid me already. It's going to be great. You don't get any of that. Boy, oh, boy. Damn, dude.

Have you ever known anyone? Most people say pimped jokingly. You meant it. No, she did it. She died. Have I? Have you known anyone that lied about cancer? I knew a guy the short amount of time I was in college.

I think he did it for the reveal. That he was lying? He told everybody. No, he told everybody had ball cancer. and we were all upset and then he just stopped talking about it. It's so injured. We were like, I mean, fuck. I wouldn't even 21.

Yeah. So it was like a time where you could kind of drop the, like I think he wanted the, the, the, the accolades of the reveal. He called it ball cancer? That's how you should have known. We called it. You should have known another time, guys. We called it ball. I think he said testicular, but he had a whole thing.

I got a number to my friend's house. He had a whole thing about it. Come here, I want you to feel this bump. I want you to know what it feels like. But he just stopped, he just gradually stopped talking about it. He just phased it out? And then I was sort of just like, I'm going back home, man. You know what, I bet he was on Nuggenics and got rid of it.

Yeah, I just kind of gutted it out. He styled out of the meth cancer. I pooped it out one day. Then one day he was in a close-up magic. That's, yeah. He's like, this fills that gap in my life now. Where's my cancer? Yeah, but that's the, that's the one time.

Holy cow, though. Not like as an adult adult though. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, that's a crazy move. It's a crazy. It's like a thing. It's a thing people do.

It's like a to get like, it's a name for it. I used to lie. Munchausen's. Yeah. As opposed to Munchausen by proxy when you do it with your kid. That's somebody else's. That's Gypsy Rose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. It's kind of like stolen valor. It is. It's cancer stolen. Yeah. Have you ever gone down the stolen valor? Like on YouTube? You ever watch?

of you. What? Where somebody's wearing like a Vietnam vet hat and then... And they're just like lighten... Like this... Like, because they don't put it together right.

Right. You know what I mean? But it's like, you think it's gonna be cool but then you go down kind of the rabbit hole and it's like... A lot of times

pretty clearly mentally... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's always... There's not getting enough pension for something. It's not like... It's not like you think where it's like some dude

who's like going out getting pussy. You know what I mean? That's not what it is. Get some of that Vietnam veteran. Right. Go to the VFW where all the chicks hang out. It's never, it's always just like, it's always like on the street or like in a store.

Yeah. Right. You know. We used to, I remember they'd have rap concerts at the VFW, but they wouldn't, they would just let the, it'd still be the VFW. And we'd all go in there and I'd just see these dudes sit at the bar. It's just so mad at everything. Did we go to one of Scurschman's DJ nights at like a VFW? Yeah.

And there were like some dudes. They still let the V's in there. Yeah. I would be pissed if I fought in a foreign war. So what I. And then I got to listen to Dobstap. Yeah. You're like, this is what I, this is the freedom I was protecting.

Then you just see like me barfing outside still trying to get in. They don't have anything like that in Ho Chi Minh City. No. Go there now and see if you can have, if you can have this kind of dynamic melange of culture. You can't, there's nobody remixing day a night by Kid Cuddy. That's true. That's true. and like that over there.

That's why we're still the best. He'll be on here soon now that he's doing stand-up. Is he? Kid Cuddy's doing stand-up? Yeah, he just did it for the first time the other night. Whoa. Okay. Stop doing that.

He's a talented guy. We don't have a lot. He wasn't how to make it in America. He was acting. He's acting. I recently revisited that show. It's pretty good. There's a great scene that you said.

Season one, good. Yeah. Promising. Season two, you can tell the ratings. You can tell they got the note like, hey, we need to do something because every episode was like, We got to see this girl's tits. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Was that the clothing? They started a clothing company? Yeah, they started denim brand. It's pants entourage. Louis Guzman. Yeah.

Or it starts his denim right. Rostamasta. Denim. Then they sell the hoodies. Pants entourage. Yeah. Great. It's great.

If you haven't seen it, you would love it. I think Shane, I think I watched a couple with you and Shane back in the day. Yeah. East Coast entourage. Yeah. I've been watching. Ross de Monster. I've been watching a little entourage.

Louis Guzman. It won't surprise you at all. I've been watching a little entourage since I'm been in L.A. I'll buy that. Every time I'm here. Lake Bell isn't how to make it in America. Yes, she is.

That's where we met Lake Bell. That's where I met Lake Bell. That's right. And we'll move on from there. She's great in it. Also in the chair company, which is fantastic. She's wonderful in the share company. God damn, that show's funny.

We, uh, David Borey's here, cool guy, jokes, it's having nothing. Oh, we did all this. I'm Ian Carrell. I have nothing. Except come see us in New Orleans. What a time we're going to have. Bring your shorts sets up.

It's going to be David's Bachelor Party. We're going to be one of. short sets. David has decided it's his bachelor party. Jason, I don't know what you're doing March 19 through the 21st. Yeah, I'm coming. Hell yeah, we're wearing short sets. All right. I love short sets. New Orleans. We're going to have to do like,

we can do some fun AFEs. Well, anyway, that's off my stuff. We are gathered here today not to talk about short sets. But sometimes moms wear short sets. I think moms are great at shorts. Yeah. My mom's got short sets. Definitely. We're drafting mom jams. Now, did you guys go specific to your mothers, or are we just saying an enjoy a little bit of everything? I have a couple specific, but I have a few that I feel like need to just. They got to be said.

They're not my mom's jams, but they are mom jams. All I know of mom jams are what my mom's jams are, although I think they're pretty universal. I think so. It's just hard to, I don't want to know what the current mom jams are, and I don't know a ton. Here's the thing. I don't know how universal. my mom's jams on. That's why I did some other stuff.

Starting to sound dirty. Did your mom's listen to a lot of Peter Tosh? My mom listens. My mom listens to crazy shit. A lot of lucky dube. I know your mom is what inspired this whole thing. Because I thought you were talking, when you had the idea, I didn't realize you were talking about that bit. I thought you're talking about like a bit that Sean Patton

had or something. Oh, no. I sound about you. My mom listens to some wild stuff. Your mom does listen to wild stuff. Yeah. We all reached out to our mothers to ask. I did. He didn't. He didn't. Her jams are so Beating.

My mom was like, she just listened to music all the time. Yeah. So it's like, it's so beat into my head. You know, I listen to music all the time

at the house too because I try to have the TV off. Yeah. Music is such a good, I have trouble in like dead silence. Yeah. It's weird.

I do too. Because then the feelings start to come up. You start to hear that interior voice. Yeah. Do you have a narrative? Huh? We talked about this the other day.

Do you have an interior narrator? No, I don't think so. I've been trying to pay attention because we talked about it yesterday. I'm trying to see if I do. I don't think I do. I don't. You know, there's a theory.

I super do. There's this crazy theory of the bicameral mind. I think it's been discredited, but I'm not sure. Yeah. This is academic theory that said the ancient Greeks,

like back in that era, so 5,000 years ago, something. People had that interior narration, but they didn't know it was themselves and so they thought it was God. Oh, interesting. Because they didn't know

that they could talk to themselves in their own head. How do you discredit? How do you disprove that? That just seems like... I have no idea. You have to talk to other people about what you're thinking about, which is insane. I was trying to tune into it yesterday as I was driving home, and I was like, there's nothing. You know what's crazy?

I've been thinking about what you said yesterday the whole day. What I say? You said, I think in feelings. I do. Wow. Really fucked me up. Yeah. Because I was like, that seems like it's way better than what I'm doing.

I feel like that tends to be how I shit for. But shit's way too many words. Sometimes I was thinking about it was walking the dog this morning. Sometimes I'm thinking, and it's not like, thinking so much implies that like I'm like solving this. It's just sometimes there's so many words to chill out. I just have to count. So sometimes I'm just straight up counting to 10, 20 over and over and over. I do that when I go to bed.

That's supposed to help people go to sleep quicker. So you probably have an indefinitely. material monologue too. It's always words narrating what's going on. I don't think so. I have trouble going to sleep. When I go to sleep I start thinking about crazy shit like the universe and death. Like crazy stuff that's hard to go to sleep when you're thinking about. Wouldn't it be crazy if this is when we found out you have synesthesia? He's like when I go to bed it's all purple. I think it purple. Harper, do you have an internal monologue? I have a lot of demons. Boobes, boobs, boobs, boobs. Yeah, it's just that.

No, I have a lot of like, if I'm in a kind of quiet headspace, I start thinking about conversations I might have or could have. Okay. So it's a lot of that of like. Is your internal monologue as mellow as you are? Because that'd be pretty smooth. Am I mellow? I think you're mellow, yeah. I don't think that.

No, I don't know. That's a misrepresentation. You guys. You know. I'm not the, the tea kettle you got next to you, but I'm up there. Yeah. I think you are the tea kettle. I think we're pretty similar to tea kennels.

Oh, wait, I saw you flip out one time. That was justified. Every time I do it is justified. Are you yelling at me? I'm not yelling at you. All right. I'm not yelling at you. That's right.

I videotaped you flipping out. That's right. I'm trying to get better at it, but I don't think it's working. That was mild, by the way. It was very, yeah. It also was very fun. On the way, I'm half pop, got picked up from the airport. That's a good time.

I'm just filming Harper. at some guy. In traffic at the airport? No, we were on our way to Sonoma. Oh. Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Isaac, did we talk about this? Do you have an internal monologue?

Heavy, heavy internal monologue. That's why I can't go to sleep. Jason, what are, what do you got going on up there? Yeah, I have two, I have an heavy internal monologue. Like words? Words, images. Yeah, I do the bad thing where I'm like, let me, let me, let me smooth my brain down at night by, like, like, watching a stream of disturbing videos, fights, shootings and things.

Really? And that's like, I need to stop doing that. Really? Yeah. He does too. I need to stop. And that's a thing I need to stop. I do too.

I watch the universe videos all the time about that's a new one, the ever-expanding vastness of the universe right before I lay down. Oh, wow. I have anxiety, but it's not, it doesn't like, it's almost like a baseline, like a, like a musical baseline, not like my what I have going on all the time. It's a frequency more than like a manifest. I'm not like, oh, I'm worried that that shelf is

going to fall and hit my head. It's more just like. A feeling that's something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like an animal anxiety. But I feel like that probably taps you into more your feelings more. My shit is like I can just talk around anything. So it's like maybe I'm feeling something or maybe I can figure out a way to make it like I'm actually smart. I'm going to have to pay attention. I don't know if I do this. All right. Me too.

Let's pay attention. Let's pay attention to it. At dinner, if you see me staring off into the distance, it's me just gone. After this, we just don't, you don't hear from us again. Yeah, what if this is the end? Like I'm a war because I just, my eyes go white, channeling a bear. Mom jams is a word.

Mom jams. My mom sent me her three favorite songs. You asked your mom for her three. I did. I don't know that any of the her three favorite songs to me qualify as mom jim, so it's going to be interesting. I don't know if I'm going to pick any of these. I'm going to go a few of my moms because I have to, but mostly I'm doing the overall mom jam.

The way we determine the order of this draft is a rollicking game of rock paper scissors played between the three of you. And we throw on shoot. A one, two, three, shoot. Ooh, a scissors against two paper. Sean wins a natural victory. Sean is the winner doesn't come upon you

to determine the order of today's draft. Before you do that, I will remind you this a serpentine draft. What is that? That's a great question. It is like if you were tossing and turning in bed. All right, yeah. Okay, great.

Basically, what it means you pick fourth in the first round. You pick first in the sag round. You get that made sense, right? You got there? Like you're just rolling, rolling, rolling. Yeah. Rolling, rolling, rolling. With that in mind, what would the order of today's draft me?

Well, I'm going to go first. Okay, Sean Jordan goes first. Then we'll go down the cup. We'll go David Jason, you. Oh, hot corner. I'm back. The order is Sean, David, Jason. Ian, we are drafting mom jams.

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started it, but this is for my mom loved this song. I don't know why on earth she loved it. But I think it's a very specific type of mom that cuts loose and would like this song when they can like it with their friends. But I'm going to pick crazy bitch by Buck Cherry.

Yeah. That is what inspired this whole thing. So my mom went to a bit that I do, but she went to a Buck Cherry concert one time and I was like what? And yeah, she loves Buck Cherry. If you don't know Buck Cherry is, I don't know how relevant they are right now, but they have that called crazy bitch.

I would say not. It's just graphically describing a crazy bitch. That's what that sucks. It's, you know, this is so gross what I'm about to say. Say the words. Say the words of the song. He's like, you're crazy bitch, but you fuck so good. I'm on top of it.

I dream of fucking you all night. Scratches all down my back. They're got a right on. My mom went to that concert with a broken neck. And maybe for the neck. Mom, I'm not dragging you, mom. I'm not dragging you here. Keep you out of trouble.

Yeah, it's better to not get it broke there. And I bet you, I bet you not the only broken neck there. People are getting broke off at the buckday. Okay, so this song starts out pretty nice. It's all right. And then break me down, you got a lovely face. Oh, we're going to your place. And now you've got to freak me out.

Scream so loud getting fucking laid. Because the guy was 15 when he wrote it. The guy had his wife in the video to you, I think. Wow. this song is crazy. Bitch. Cashing in the rocks just to get you face to face.

What? Wait. Take it off. The paper is your game. You jump in bed with fame. Another one night paid in full. You're so fine, it won't be a loss. Cashing in the rocks just to get you face to face.

So is he saying he's giving her drugs? Like, is he saying they're doing, like, I'll do my drugs with you? Maybe. I think it's, yeah, it's like a, it seems like he's training. Like, sure, let's go do all my cocaine. Sex. Yeah. Okay.

Well, he's trading crack to get fucking late. Yeah. Now, if you, like, if you're a mom and you want to go get Buck at a show, this, I get it. Very relatable scenario. You take your crew and you go to this show and you have a goddamn night. I'm not saying you even bring it home. I'm just saying you go nuts at the Buck Cherry concert. Maybe you flash someone.

Just like, if I, if I sang out loud, let's just say, I have to say each song out loud, if I had to make a list and couldn't stop until I got to Crazy Bitch by Buck Cherry, Of mom jams, it would take me 17 years. Yeah, but you're, okay. Of what I just, not even what my mom listened to, what I consider to be a mom jam. Picture a group of 23-year-old moms who they're like, dang, man, we still had a lot to do,

but we just had a kid pretty young. Still a little life. But your mom wasn't 23 when she went to the Buck Cherry. She was 62. Yeah. Or some shit. But is she a Buck Cherry fan or does she like crazy? She's not, I feel like I'm doing the bitch.

She's not anymore because the whole salad tossing thing. Yeah, you told her about it. The show. The song was inspired by Paris Hilton's 2004 sex tape one night in Paris. No kidding. Yeah. Okay. That's not what he said is not what happened in that.

I feel like he took some creative liberty. This guy's not a reliable area. He took a world and he built it out. Right. It's A to C. Yeah. I'm sorry for the graphic nature of this story that I'm about to tell. But there was a guy in Seattle.

It's not that bad. I just, I'm going to swear a couple times. There was a guy in Seattle who came up to me after one of the shows, and I had done that bit. This is like two weeks ago. And he's like, hey, when I was, I don't know, 25 or whatever, we tried to go to a Buck Cherry concert, get on their tour bus. And they walked up and he's like, hey, can we get on the bus? And the guy's like, no. Yeah.

And two girls came up. I don't. We can cut it out if you want to. Two girls came up and they're like, something got cut. Okay. And I'll just fill you. And these two girls wanted Buck Cherry to butt fucking. And they got a lot.

the bus. That's okay to say. It is. It is. I just thought it was so gross that, you know. The way you phrased it, I feel like, was cuttable. Okay. Here's a, uh, I'd like to read this quote from the lead singer Josh Todd about, uh,

the, uh, Paris Hilton sex tape inspiration for Crazy Bitch. Yeah. Quote, that kind of sparked the idea. A porn? They hadn't seen porn before. Oh my God. He just, he calls his body like, dude, they're filming this now. We gotta write a song about it.

Do you know Buck Cherry is Chuck Barry, but they flipped the letters. Is that really what they did, right? It is, huh? Oh, because they like to watch people pee? Here's guitarist Keith Nelson disagreeing with the reputation the song has of being misogynist. Quote, it was never meant to be misogynist. It was meant to misogy. But since then, I've heard that so many women love it and know all the lyrics.

Yeah. Sean, your mom? something like that is really gratifying because it means that females are in on the joke as well. He's female. The joke, he says. I love females.

I love females. Good Lord. Speaking of the Paras Hilton sex tape. Yeah. Towards the end of the pandemic, I was playing basketball weekly at the house of the guy who helped sell that.

So it's like way out in like, way out in the hills, like deep valley. gated community and it was me a couple of like like not porn producer writer whatever types

and then half of them were porn stars whoa you were in a porn star pickup game it was a pretty competitive game I bet so these are the male performance yes these are confident men yes not a woman in sight no wow yeah

do you feel like their dick weight affected their game. Couldn't guard me. Yeah. DW. So yeah. Yeah. That's all.

Yeah. That's very interesting. Genuinely. Wow. Yeah. Anyway, a lewd first pick, I know, but that is just, it's crazy to me that my mom liked that song. I just, yeah.

Blum me away. Well, let your mom know that in 2014, Buck Cherry launched a line of sex toys named Crazy Bitch Toys. Wow. This is crazy. They are creative geniuses. What year? 2014?

I thought all this stuff was like much longer ago. I did too. If you would have guessed buck cherry like 1989 for some reason. I bet you that would go at Hermosa Beach over Crazy Town. You think I could buck cherry him? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

I got to admit I don't know as much about Hermosa Beach. They're from Anaheim. Okay. We'll check out. A seed of culture. Yes. I don't think so. He goes, I don't think so.

Not my Hermosa Beach. Not Isaac's Ramosa Beach. Welcome back. Welcome back to Isaac Cayley's Hormosa Beach. I grew up very near there. You know, I know Hormosa very well. I'd like to see you do sort of a Hul Houser thing. What does that mean?

California Gold? What's that? Huel Houser? Who's that? He was the host of, he would take you through everywhere interesting in California. Oh. He'd probably do the voice more better than I do. It's like a PBS show.

Yeah. Oh. But he was just a very happy, go lucky, everything's amazing to the like smallest parts of California. I was born in 1994. Don't do that, does. He was on air well after

that. I think repeats, but still. Crazy bitch by Buck Cherry. Okay. All right. All right. All right. Odd starting point. I understand. It's not a mom jam. Even though it was your mom's jam. I think it's a certain type of mom jam. I know. I think he's right.

I think he's right. I know what you're saying. He's sort of a Taco Bell in the food court situation. Does this make sense? I think it's Lake Moms. Okay. It's something. It's moms at the lake.

I might. I just went through a breakup. Let's go get nuts for a minute at this concert. It's a song for moms who want to get jammed. Yeah. Yeah. There it is. All right.

Yeah, it's an odd one for sure. But when I asked that, does your mom like other Buck Cherry song? Or did she just like the one song? She liked a lie. She had a CD. So whatever CD, that was she like, she went to the show at Crow Fest. That's a festival for crows.

K.R. The Rock Station in Sioux Falls. I don't even know if it's still that, but... I've been to the radio station in Sioux Falls. I know you have. Saw a car on fire when you drove into my city. A house. Damn. A house. Damn. It was a house. David done for your first pick. It's just, man. I just think about my mom, her friends, her whole peer

group. It swept like wildfire. Tyrone. Erica Badu. Okay. Yeah. You better call up Tyrone. And then the live, the live one. Call him. Yeah. And tell. Ham Carl. Yeah, it was just a huge. Who sings that?

Eric Bar do. Oh, Erica Badu. You just said. Yeah. Yeah. At the end of the song, but you can't use my phone. And then everybody goes crazy. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of songs about ain't shit man in my house. Yeah. But yeah. But that one was big. That whole first Erica Badoose, that one in Mama's Gun went huge. That album, you can just run back to back to back to back to back.

It's all good. I love the album. I love the whole album. It's a true no-skip situation. It's really, really, really great. That's an older sister song for me. That makes sense. Yeah.

How old is your mom right now? How old am I? She's 19 years older than me? Okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah. My mom was 30 when she had me. Yeah. And I'm a little older than you.

Yeah. So yeah. So my mom and your, sister probably have similar maybe yeah yeah I honestly yeah probably she's like when your parents are young you also remember when they transition from

keeping up with young people music right yeah to kind of starting to listen to old people music yeah I see and then then they get now they're old and they pretend like they never listened I don't like rap well all right we had a lot of house parties that's so different yeah

I thought of partying with the door open in our apartment But yeah Tyrone was a huge one Erica Badu has always kind of had mom energy as well Even though she's like incredibly cool But there's a little something about like her The arch of her eyebrow that says to me like Yeah You know what I mean?

Like a loving disapproval I feel like when she came out It was more for women in their 30s than it was women in their 20s Yeah Yeah You know what I mean? Women who had had a life at that point already. You have had to have difficult times to listen to on and on.

Yeah. On and on is like a song about being tired. Yeah. It is. There's a lot of music I feel like it's about being tired. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or about apple trees. Yeah, yeah.

More apple trees? Yeah. Next lifetime. All that shit was huge. But Tyrone was like, yeah, they loved me. Erica Badu. That's a great pick. Jason.

Well, I'm going to go with, I'm going to pick a mom. my mom pick for my first pick she referred to it as when I called her before we hit record as the the Bruno Mars song where he's dancing in the street which I then later confirmed with her is Uptown Funk Okay there it is yeah uptown funk by Bruno Mars I'm sure the fact that he's one of our most famous

Filipinos yeah talk to you probably helped and, you know, she's always keeping track of them and what they're doing. Right. And she loves an Uptown funk. I will say of my mom and her musical stylings. She doesn't often go into ballads. She likes upbeat.

I think there's something about... Did she dance? No, but she needs, she wants, like, energy and movement, and she's not looking to get introspective. She's truly looking to jam. Yeah. Okay. I'm like your mom.

Yeah. Yeah. She's not looking to, like, think about the lyrics and have it be very heartfelt and sentimental. I think she's trying not to get emotional in a music experience. She just wants, like, energy. She wants to get Uptown funked up. Some Mark Ronson production in there. Wait a minute, Mark Ronson production.

Just taking the feelings off the shelf. Yeah, I like that. My mother has been to see Bruno Mars with two of her sons. I love it. Yeah. And I'm one of them. Yeah. And the concert.

Doesn't she only have two sons? She has two sons, and then she raised another since it's not her biological son, but is like her son, but has knock on to Bruno Mars with him. But I bet if he offered, she'd go in a second. My mom loves Bruno Mars. What's not to love? He's a very talented man. I was so anti-Brunner-Marz. I've told the story before.

We've talked about it. He was on my Do Not Play at the wedding, like, rules to the DJ. What was it about him? I find it very, I found it very, like, artificial, like, kind of that, like, it felt like a musical copy. play a little bit where I'm like, we already had soul music, and it's weird for someone to like sort of try to reproduce that. It felt like a Civil War reenactor, like musically to me.

Even though it was good, it was like, your costume was very convincing. And then, and it all felt like overly produced, you know. And then I went to go to this concert and saw Bruno Mars and the hooligans in Las Vegas, and it was so good. Such a good performer. They're also, they're like so insanely musical talented.

It blew me away that, like, I'm in. I'm on board. I don't listen to them. I don't like throw it on Spotify or whatever. But if it's on, I'm fine like it. I'm fine. Yeah. There's certain,

there's certain Bruno Mars tracks that I will absolutely vibe with. Yeah. I do like the faster stuff. Yeah. See, I like the slower stuff. That old, like that, I wish it would rain or whatever that song. Like, he's got some slow stuff that I really.

Huh? It will rain. It will rain. Yeah, that song's great. You don't bring me flowers. Is that one of them? You don't buy me flowers. I love that.

I love that. I love that. That one's good. Locked out of heaven is kind of like my... That's a fun one. That's probably my favorite one. I do like Bruno Mars. I like that Anderson Pack stuff too.

Yeah, the Anderson Pax. That's great. Leave the door open. You can leave the door open. That's a good face. You love Bruno Mars, huh? I like... Well, Harper slides away.

I actually, I like the slow jams more. I like the ballads. I like him being sad and earnest. You want to step on a hammer or something. You want to step on a great grenade for her. I would, you know, throw my head. What was it? Catch a grenade for you.

Jump in front of a train for you. Yeah. Yeah. That's not what I'm trying to do. That's not what you're trying to do. Versace on the floor, kind of in the middle. Oh, yeah. Very, very good song.

He now addresses the gambling allegations in his live show, according to St. What does he say? He's like, there's a lot of rumors about me that I, like, that I have to be here. Because he does with the casinos in Vegas. I have to be here, you know, like because I lost so much money gambling. And he was like... A reported $12 million. And he's like, trust me, I got plenty of money.

Like, I don't need to be here for that. So it's not, it's a non-wait a minute. It is a non-denial denial. I will say that anybody that says I got plenty of money has money problems. Yeah. Anybody that feels the need to say that out loud to an audience, 100% of the time has money problems. He's like, I got money to lose gambling.

Hey, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm all right. Don't worry about me. Here's some of my money. I'm all right. Yeah. Go back. Here's uptown funk for the 98th night in a row. He hasn't left this song. He hasn't left Nevada since Obama was president. It's like clearly wearing an ankle monitor.

Yeah. No, that Vegas residency seems like a... I know the money's amazing. It would kill me to just be in Vegas. A lot of these dudes fly in fly out the same night. but it's every night but they live in like L.A. or something like that is friends with Adel right, Adel did that Vegas residency

and the like she would she slept in L.A. every night she would fly in private they have like that private airport like get picked up in a car her show would be starting when the plane landed the music going the music is going

she would get like driven in get out go do the concert and then so fucking sick and like she would be gone before the show was over. She would be like singing and then they would do like a big musical crescendo and she would

be like walk off, get back in the SUV on her way back to the PJ before I'm a dick when I do it at the chuckle hut. So they're just like, that's how they navigate or like if you want to stay they put you up in housing where it's like there's a yard and all this. Sure sure sure.

But it's in a casino you know like you never have to leave. No, I don't want that. Yeah. Do you think Bruno Mars is getting that or they have Bruno Mars in a basement. They might have I think he's changed. It's like what happened to the monstars in space.

I think they put him in one of the vaults. Bruno Mars at the end of the show starts dancing towards like the fire door trying to get it. Hey! Like security steps in front of it.

He's going out into the crowd. Yeah. He runs towards the back. I bet you guys with nets. I bet you he's fast. He's got to be. Yeah, yeah. He's got to be.

Yeah. Little guy like that. Yeah. And just so, light on his feet anyways. Kind of like Pooka Nakua speed out there. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Uh, uptown funk by Bruton Marr's great. I now, like, now I have two picks here. Okay. When I think of mom jams, I think of a very specific era when I was a kid, getting driven places by my mom. So I have my own biases coming in there.

What kind of vehicle? Honda, well, first Ford Arrow Star minivan. Okay. You felt like a minivan kid somewhere. Minivan kid. There were a lot of us, so there needed to be a minivan. Yeah, you guys had a brood. Yeah.

There were four of us in the house. Plus my mom was sort of like taking in all of my older siblings, like their friends who didn't have great home situations. A lot of staying with us for a long time. So a lot of like outings with like seven, eight. Lots of people. Lots of people. Damn.

You guys must have been going through food. Groceries. Damn. Ivan Carmel brought it up since I've been told by my mother. And then confirmed by Ivan like, yeah, I was buying 16 gallons of milk, you know, like a week. All I did was eat when I was at age. I'm feeding Jason Wald.

You know. Who's Jason Wald? Exactly. Gallons three and four. A man who would go on to become a Navy SEAL, but like at the time was just a high school friend of my brothers. Hungry kid. Yeah.

So I have a very, it was Ford Arrow Star into Honda Accord. And these are the eras that I remember hearing, some oftentimes on tapes. Yeah. Same with my mind. This is tape. Oh, my mom had, like, did you have the whole, the tape, the car tape holder where, like, you open it and all the tapes are in there? It looked like an earthquake hit that thing every time I opened it. Yeah.

Nothing was ever where it was supposed to be. And I just unlocked another memory, just like describing that. Incredible. Of another song, which I'll get to. But with my first pick, I think I have to go with. Okay. I'm going to go with Your So Far Away by Carol King. Sing it?

You're so far away. What doesn't anybody stay in place anymore? That song makes me want to go to sleep on the way home from a doctor's appointment. Right? Exactly. A lot of deceased doctor appointment music. Yeah. But I could have taken anything from tapestry.

I would just draft tapestry by Carol King. Okay. Which to me is like hardcore mom jams. Right. Carol King, to me, is like the master of the mom jam. Okay. These are songs. I feel the earth move under my feet.

Move under my feet. You know. Dumbling down. Dumbling down. Carol King, one of the great songwriters of all time, wrote great hit songs for a lot of people. Tapestry, her big one. And it was just like cover-to-cover mom jams for Sue Carmel. I like that.

Yeah. And if there are no other comments on Carol King. I'm I'm I'm I love all this yeah I can't wait to hear Sean number two I know I know I kind of I mean it was a hard it was a hard it was it was the first one I went nuts yesterday too I we drafted what shit you do alone or something I always said blow snot rockets all over the carpet right of a hotel just like I feel like I didn't quite get taken it then rub it in with your feet he blows snot rockets on hotel floors and then rubs it in with his feet why do you Sean it's funnier to hear

It was pretty good the first time. I can't wait to hear what the second one is. It's pretty normal. It's normal. My pick, too, just to get it out of the way, Bonnie Raid, Nick a Time. Ooh. Yeah.

Man. Bonnie Raid was another, like, in constant rotation in both the Aero Star and the Honda Accord. That will imprint on you. Yeah. She had a bunch of hits that were, like, certified mom jams, I think.

But, like, Nick of Time, like, they found love. Love in the Nick of Time There's some really good ones on that album Yeah, Bonnie rate's great I can't make you love me Is that the same one? Yeah

Let's give them something to talk about it too Let's give them How about love? And then she spreads on that slide Don't forget about that She fucking blasts on that thing Yeah Where's Bonnie at right now?

She just won an album with the year like two years ago She's doing. Laura's a road dog. Like two years ago, I think, at the motor center. She's a fucking road dog. Does Laura have a child? Yeah, Laura got a kid. I rest my case.

Yeah, Laura's got a kid. I rest my case. Bonnie Raid has been turning out mom jams with that just a little splash of gray or whatever it is she has right here for almost her entire career. Since day one. Since day one. Since she was working with John Prine. I think she had one album that wasn't mom jams.

And then she was like, you know what? Let me go ahead and make a living. Time to make some money now. Yeah. Yeah. Let me slide in a. my lane. Forget the hard blues.

Let me get some money now. Bonnie Ray walks into a wine bar in Santa Barbara. You think she has to pay for her own wine? Absolutely not. No. I think she gets a free wine everywhere. Everywhere she gets,

Bonnie Gray is a wine purple heart. Yeah. Bonnie rate. Yeah. Jason, have you your second pick. Oh gosh. Okay.

This is a car cassette memory. Long, long time. Oh, yeah. American Pie? That's right. Yeah, big time. I can still remember how the music used to make me smile. I remember being like, whoa, there's so many lyrics to this song.

How does you remember it? It's so long. It's like six minutes, right? Yeah, it's like six minutes. And then you start listening to it. I'm like, hold on. What the fuck is going on here? Very all over the place.

It's when they all, the plane crash. Big Bopper and Richie Valens. I found that out later. My mom had no idea about that. She was not interested. But she had like the Don McLean cassette tape Greatest Hits. Yeah.

And I think it was only, it was that and Vincent. And then she didn't give a shit about anything else on that tape. No shade to Don. No shade to done. Nothing else made. It was lost to. Nothing else broke through. And that's it.

Yeah. And it's the same as you. You know, I have kind of like vivid memories coming up right now of me like, with gauze in my mouth coming from the dentist, listening to American Pie. Well, I know that you're in love with him because I saw you dancing in the gym. Both kicked off the shoes.

And I did off those rhythm and blues. I know every lyric. I love that. It's probably my favorite song of all the time. Whoa. I wrote a paper on it in high school. Like the one paper I did. You wrote a paper?

What class? I got to find this paper. I forget. I would love. I love it. A lot of red marks on there, I'm sure. It's actually the inside of a shoe box. Take it.

Give me a deed. I learned what a levy was from this song. I learned what Rye was from this song. It's in the credits of a skate video called Heavy Metal. So when I was like 14. That's a skate video? First or second Toy Machine video, I think. But it's in the credits.

I was joking because of the video with the lady with the huge. Norman. You guys never saw Heavy Metal when you were good? I don't see the heavy metal that animated Huge booed Newty Right and Drugan

Yes Yeah A lot of sex in it Futuristic barbarian stuff Not necessarily a plot Yeah Sorry Love that song

Brother My brother Will you go to war with me My brother father I will walk hand to hand To work Now I thought the rye was like a I thought it was like a seed

Like a grass Like a wheat I thought it was bread Yeah I didn't understand That it was a drink A little bit of the creature I thought the wreaths I thought the whiskey and rye, and I thought you put like a sprig of rye in a drink.

Kid logic. Yeah, yeah. We're like, I know that rye is a grain. I know that whiskey. Okay. Yeah, where do you start? I know things get put in drinks. So you're like, ipso facto.

This is the same era when I saw some movie where a character was like, no, thanks, I don't drink. And I thought, kid logic, that meant they never drink. This is a person who made the choice to never take fluids. And he just lives like that. Right. He gets all his fluids like from food. Yeah. He eats ice.

That kid logic. So my buddy, he said when he was a kid, his dad would drive the car and he'd always be, he'd have his hand on the steering wheel and always be going like that, you know, checking the speed limit.

But he didn't know that. So my friend thought his dad was having fake conversations with somebody being like, come on, what are you talking about? Just the whole time like, oh, come on.

Just having fake Ray Leota conversations? Because it makes sense because you're like, you don't know you to check the speed limit. Yeah. I also thought at that time there was a space shuttle launch. And I was like, how does the space shuttle get out of the earth? I thought we were inside the earth. Because I didn't understand how you could not, how you could be outside of it and not fly off. Yeah.

I still don't understand that I never will. The sky looks like a dome a little bit. Right. Unless on a clear blue sky day. Yeah. We thought Spaceballs was a documentary. Spaceballs is a documentary. documentary. Spaceball's is a prophetic

documentary about something that will happen that we need to be prepared for. Speak on it. Yeah. I did. That's it. Yeah, there it is. That's it. You know. So are you fucking ready? That's my question. I didn't know what Jewish. I didn't know Jewish when I was a kid. Yeah, I didn't get any of those. I was like

made the sports be with you. I didn't get any. I didn't know what the fuck is Prince Valium? He's just tight. I didn't. Are you talking about like Robin Hood Prince of East? Or Robin Hood men and tight stuff here now? No, Spaceballs. She's Drew. That's baseball. That's what I mean.

She's Jewish. I had no idea. Definitely Ziniga. I also didn't know who Yoda was. I'd never seen Star Wars. So you saw Space Falls before Star Wars. I think I might have too. But I knew what Star Wars was.

I don't know if I did. I mean, it's baseball still ruled, but then you watch Star Wars, you're like, oh, okay. So you were saying, they got a pizza guy in this. That's great. Pizza the Hut. Pizza the Hut. Some guy named Yogurt.

The Shorts is. Is that cool? No, he's a cool movie. What's wrong with this one? I see your Schwartz is as big as mine. Do you have a time for your second pick? Also a tape memory in the big tape cassette. We played this.

Because my mom had all her tapes. Like, I didn't have a lot of kids tapes. I had Rafi, I think that's it. Yeah. But she let me pick from her tapes. Rafi's been around that long? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I did around. I know that. I got Rafi on vinyl. Down by the Bay, baby, Baby Baluga, all that stuff. I thought that was new. Arthur still jams out to, like, the kids. I thought Raffey just came out. I thought Raffy just, Max loves Raffy.

No. I had no. We had no. Yeah. Raffy's been dead since 1978. Yeah. Are you serious? When did Raffy done? No, no, no, no. Am I caught in a hit and run?

Bum-Bu-Bu-Bat-Bu-Bat-Bu. Oh, man. So hit and run means like one night stand, right? Yeah. I didn't know that when I was a kid. I was like, what's a car accident to have to do with any of this? Yeah.

Yep. No. I loved that. I love that whole tape, but straight up not tell me was probably my favorite. Yeah. Also loved cold-hearted snake,

which is a cold-hearted snake. He don't do his eyes. Oh, oh, oh. He's been telling lies. He's a lover boy in play. He don't play by rules. Oh, girl. This one ever, nothing but the hits.

I love that breakdown. Cold-hearted. Snake. Yeah. Cuck-c-c-c-co-hearted. I felt bad being a guy. I was like, sorry. A lot of the music now I realize,

yeah, there was a lot of those feelings. Just guys are the worst. But I'm not a guy. I'm a boy. You're right. And then Rush, too. I know we're saying a ton of other songs, but Rush was on that album, I think.

Oh, Rush, yeah. Rush, rush, rush, yeah. I want to feel you next to me. Keanu Reeves in that. that video. Opposite. It's hush. It's hush.

It's hush. Opposits of tract is on that. Rush? I'll bet. Yeah, the one with the pretty sure. With the cat. That I know.

Yeah. Romney Malko. Romney Malko. I know. You're serious. You're serious. Yeah. It's Rumson.

It is. It's Rush. Yeah, rush. Yeah. That's crazy. A huge record for Paula Abdul. Yeah. Huge record.

Big record. Who is producing that? I wonder what the. Romney Malco. Probably. The whole thing. You think it was, Clive Day? She was like a man.

She was, people throw the word industry plant around like that's something new or anything like that. Like, she was an industry plant. Because she was a dancer, right? She was a famously a. Lakeer girl. She was a Laker girl. Because she couldn't really sing.

She was a eye. We both get all eyes. She's Jewish. Whoa. She was Jewish. She was all right. And this was like. She was all right now I hate her

She's a Syrian Jew Let's give her I had no idea Wait is she? Yes Whoa She doesn't bang that drum She doesn't enough

Not enough Yeah Not enough I didn't hear one beat on that drum If I had known that as a kid I would be No disrespect I would not be here right now

That's like You know what I found You beat At the top I'm hit the fucking top floor You know what I found out recently Of that hotel near the Safele Center

From Alice Alex Van Halen's recent book. Yeah. The Van Halen brothers are half Indonesian. What? Yeah. And they just didn't rep it at all. At all.

Zero. Isn't that also Mark Paul Gossler? Yes. Oh, right. He's also half Indonesian? Yeah. Mark Paul Gossler? Yeah.

That guy looks like he was like... Born in California. Yeah, dude, like born out of a surfboard. My girls part Dutch in Indonesia. Wow, Paul Abdual, Syrian. Yeah. That's... Syrian Jewish.

Okay Her father, Harry Abdul, was born in Aleppo's area Damn Thank you very much Married Emilio Estevez, right? Did she? For a while? That you're right.

She don't play by rules. Rick Fox also was in there in the mix? Yes. She was rubbered by the Jackson's while they were in L.A. Lakers game and they signed her to do the choreography Who's that?

Which Jackson's? The Jackson. Which ones? They all got together and they're like, They all of them collected as a collective. Duh. They were all sitting court side.

It was one whole side of the court. They move as a unit. That's right. We like a wing. Daddy, let's go talk to that Jewish school. Who's the little Jewish girl? Daddy, let's have a little Jewish girl. She was Jewish and Syrian.

They hired it as a choreographer and then she choreographed, what have you done for me lately nasty when I think of you in control. I can't be done for me lately. Yeah. Did she do the Rhythm Nation stuff? Ooh. We are a part of the rhythm. Hold on.

She choreographed the fucking giant keyboard scene in big. Damn. That I think I could have done. Yeah. Yeah, right? Paula Abdul did a lot of stuff. Good for her.

She used her savings to make a demo, and yada, yada, yada, she fucking Paula Abdul. She fucking Paula Abdul. Yeah. Good day. She ab did the damn thing. I'm a big fan. Yeah.

What a come up for Paul Abdul. What a come up. All right. She kind of spun out, right? Did she? What? No, I think she just got a drunk one. time on America.

Oh, okay. Is that what happened? That was it. There's one where she was like real drunk. There's a belief. They got those cups up there. There's a belief section. On her.

Uh-oh. That's always, that's always, that's always. Oh, no. It's all just that she's Jewish. That's it. Okay. And then a health section. Let me see here.

She's doing all right? She's doing all right. She was hurting a plane crash, 92. It was hurts. Definitely you want to be hurt. Yeah. She was seriously injured in a plane crash. Yeah.

Seriously injured. Also fine. Let me see. Allegations of drug use. Whatever. She was famous. You're an American Idol. Yeah.

I'll tell you, look, she looks great. Is this where they're calling alcohol a drug and like? I don't think it is. This feels like you're coming from. Yeah. Is this where they call alcohol a goddamn drug again? No. One of those yarns.

That's not what it's drugs. Good Lord. Yeah. You know? It's a drug. Stop it. Yeah, it is. Apparently she divorced Emilio because he didn't want to have kids.

sad. That is sad. Yeah. The family they could have had. I wonder, did he sense go on to have kids? He had two kids existing and was like, Oh, I can't add any more to the- Are they Steves.

Is heen's. His kids. I believe they are Steves's. Sheen is the fake name. Oh, that's right. That always hurt when it happened to me once big time when a girl was like, I don't think I'm going to get married and then she married the dude pretty quick after me.

Listen, it's a good, A trip cord to pole in the moment. Totally. It looks like saving someone's feelings. And you just got to hope that they're onto their next thing by the time, the, you know, the prestige or whatever happens. Maybe the next guy was great. What's the term of magic? The prestige.

That's the turn. Right. The misdirect, the turn and the prestige or whatever it is. Before the reveal. In fact, I do want to get married. I wanted to marry him the whole time. I just want to get married to somebody who is a contractor. I've known him.

Not somebody with a dream. Or a drug addiction. I remember asking Laura, because I met her, I worked at a call center, and I'm like, what was, you know, what were you thinking? She's like, well, you were working towards something. If it would have just been the call center, I think it would have been different. All right. Yeah. Now, time for the long-awaited Sean Jordan's other picks, two and three.

It's, this one's from a movie. It is a song, but this, I'm talking about the movie. It's Tim Capello and the Lost Boys, the saxophone guy. Oh, wow. I mean, I still believe. He's still tours, by the way, and that song is on my playlist. Is he still jacked up? That's who you should take me to see.

For an old guy, he is. I looked up pictures of him. He's in shape. He's got that kind of like loose old guy muscle. Okay. Yeah, like, you know. Like wet muscle? Wet muscle.

Yeah. My mom would stop me from talking. Like, I could be telling her I got like an A plus for the first time of my life. Shut up if Tim Copello came on the screen. Is that a realistic scenario? Something, something damn close to it. She just, and it's, you know, we've. A of A plus is what he's talking about.

Yeah, something I could have been telling her. It was merely a chance, and I feel like it didn't land this one. Mom, Dad came back. Shut up, shut up, shut up. Tim Capello's wet, long-haired body is on. We've talked about it a bunch. She loves a wet, long-haired guy. And that dude was the wettest, long-hairedest.

He's kind of still wet. Would she play that in the car? Did she have, like, the Tim Cappello? We had the Lost Boys soundtrack. Okay, great. That soundtrack still, by the way. Lost Boys? It out did the movie by a lot.

Like, the movie was kind of. a flop until it turned to a new a classic. The soundtrack, something crazy, but the soundtrack sold like double what the movie did or something. That's how I first discovered Echo and the Bunnyman. Okay. Which song is that? They covered the doors, I believe, on that soundtrack. People are strange. Dude, in excess is on there. In excess. That cry little sister, whatever that song is, that song rules. But yes, I still believe by Tim Capello. Yeah. What's the one I'm dimly recalling now there's some sort of like, Thou shall not cry little sister.

That one. Thou shall not kill. Whatever. Yeah, it's called, I think Cry Little Sister by Marilyn Manson. No, that's got to be a car. Here's the lyrics, the lyrics do I still believe by Tim Coppola. I've been in a cave. 40 days.

Only a spark to light my way. To light my way. I want to give out. I want to give in. This is our crime. This is our sin. But I still believe. I still believe.

It's good, dude. Whatever you're doing, listen to that song real quick. It'll get you going. Finish the episode. You finish the episode. Did he sing? Did saxophone man sing on it? Yeah.

He does all of it. That song rule, I was going to go see him in Portland. I couldn't do it. That was a real good part of that story. Where did he play? The Star Theater. Okay, great. Perfect.

It is perfect. If you know the city. And then number three, going, I'm taking it to the ballot. I'm going to go more than words by Extreme. Oh, wow. Saying I love you. Which is another one where it's like, all they're trying to do is get laid in that song. Right.

The song is about a lot of songs. Yeah. The song is a very, I mean, it's a full court press about like, hey. Hey, I need a little something. I need a little more than the words. Yeah. Where he's just like saying I love you, that's great. that doesn't get me what I need.

That doesn't get me. The release that I'm looking for. That's the song how I learned to sing harmony. Really? No. Yeah. Did you ever listen to any other extreme songs? Because they are different.

I did. They have wholehearted, which is sort of in that same vein, but the other shit is like hard metal. They have, okay, so you know that the climactic action scene in Bill and Ted's excellent adventure? Yes. That's them.

Do you want to play? They're hard shit. I remember seeing their album had a parental advisory on it. And the album art was medley looking, like, like Megadethy looking or whatever. And I was like, no. For you, the parental advisory might be like your parents go kiss in the other room. Just be advised that that might happen if you throw on more than work.

That's what I advise my parents. Yeah, I advise you guys. I got to let you know. Nuno Bentoncord, the guitar player, went on to be the tour guitarist for Rihanna. From extreme? Yeah. Interesting. Who set that up?

That meeting up. I don't know. I'd like to see her saying, Has Nuno Bentoncourt done other stuff too? That name's very familiar. I believe he has done other stuff, production and other, you know, band. Oh, look at him. That, dude.

The first picture, it's him at the 2025 MTV Music Video Awards. He's looking great. He does. He looks really good. He does look good. Yeah. He looks like he got more than words a few times. Nuno Duarte Gil Mendes Betancourt.

Okay. Wow. Gil Mendes? Gilman, well, Gil, space. Oh, okay. I thought it was Gilmendez. More than words, man. That was a good one.

I want to say, 8, 990. I want to say 8990 as well. Right in there. And just took over the summer for my mom. He also played on a Janet Jackson song. Yeah. Black Cat. Black Cat is such a good song.

Yeah. You know what it's about? You've told me. What is it about? I can't do this. Come on. No. I was going to say.

Wait, wait, wait I won't be guessing, but tell me what it's about Pussy joke Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah But then you made it so funny Because you're like, you've told me, wait You've done this joke before You told me about

I thought it had some deep meaning David, your third pick Gloria Gainer, I will survive Yeah, a huge one, huge one Another older sister song Yeah, although it's The disco. I mean, that's a disco.

Yeah, yeah. Also, I think that might be my mom's favorite song. That song's in the toy machine video too. Really? Yeah, Jamie Thomas' part. Oh? I mean, what an iconic.

Yeah, that song's so good. Just, I got it. Krioki. Kill the karaoke. Killer. Such a great build. Go on that go! Yeah, get out of here.

Yeah. From the first line, you're like, oh, I was petrified. And then you're in. And then it kicks, and then when the beat kicks off, you're like, fuck, now I got it. Now I'm in. That song is so good.

It's really top tier. It's interesting, like as images start to emerge of like what we consider to be a mom jam. It is a little bit of like, these are guys ain't shit songs. Yes, those are. Oh, from my mom? Yeah, yeah. And then all mine are, people my mom wanted a bone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I want to sound. She got mad at me one time because she thought she, Like if she sees a clip and she thinks I'm like talking shit, it's not what's happening. No, no, no. It's just, just saying like these are, she had crushes on these guys. They don't engage with music through the persona of being a mother. They engage with it being like an individual who has their own life and goes through shit. It's fun.

It's like interesting to see that. Yeah. Yeah. So that's just that point. That's just that point. It doesn't have to be funnier, you know. I'd prefer it not be. Yeah.

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This one would fall under, I don't know if my mom is still on this tip, but it definitely falls under the kind of a lighter dudes ain't shit. And it is Kiki-D and Elton John, don't go breaking my heart. Yeah, that one. I don't bring in my heart. Don't go breaking in my heart. I won't because I am gay.

I date men Therefore I won't break your heart KikiD Kiki D and Helod Yeah You know he married a woman He did Yeah

For a long time Yeah I think it was around this era I think it was kind of around The Don't Go Breaking My Heart era Really Yeah He

He English and Kiki D Yeah That song is a banger though It's an absolute bangor Great duet I love a duet Yeah Duet's fun

Absolutely I know Nobody knows it. Yeah, that's a good, that's in the car. Who looks the most like it? Who is our, have we talked about this? Was it on here when we talked about our ugliest pop stars? Wow.

Did we? Because like, I, oh, we might have been on here. We kicked it around and we're like, I don't think we can, I don't think that's fair. It's not fair. Yeah. But I'll say this. Let's talk about it. Yeah, I just watched the three part Billy Joel documentary on Ateam Max.

And let me, incredible musician. He came around in an era when it wasn't about the look, you know, he's about the music. He looks like when at the end of Return of the Jedi, Luke pops the mask off Darth and you're like, fuck, this Anagan looks fucking wash. Yeah. That is what Billy looks like now. And I have to say, so he's been married four times. Shouts to him. His third wife, Katie Lee, like the 35 year age gap, whatever.

consenting adults Katie didn't want to have kids and I got to say you can I can almost feel from their interview parts of the documentary like I can almost imagine Katie all the times Katie was like sneaking the birth control

without like without letting Billy know tough look Billy is a tough look he's got a snub nose he's hard to look and even at his height was not like a looker it's aspirational

We need more of it. We need more of that. He looks like a New York City Street time. Yeah, he does. Billy Joel could have two greatest hits albums. You know what I mean? I think he has three. He had three.

And they're all full of bangers. Bangor, bang, who's our ugly? Ed Sheeran, is that our ugliest pop star right now? Currently? Ed Sheeran's cute, though.

He's like, he's boyish. He's boyish. Ed Shearin looks away that in 15, 20 years, you're going to be like, oh. Isaac thinks he's cute. He's just not shredded. Isaac is one of the nicest people on the planet. He's not ugly.

I don't think you can Can you break Can you break through being any less good looking than Ed Shearing? I don't think you can't The rappers have done it It's a different

I think it's a different metric You can come in and be like I'm fat Yeah You know right You can be like big X the plug And it's like there's like You have to like fulfill like

I think a character to the industry I think if you want it's like But like pop I'm talking pop stuff Yeah I'm talking like pure I think the plug might be super handsome I actually don't know if you're like

But in like rap In the legacy of rap Like you could be fat You could be ugly You could be a dwarf Yeah You know like Well that happened once

But still It didn't happen in any other kind of music That's true Yes That's true That's true That happened once I'm just

I'm not saying he like kicked a door down Yeah But like listen If a dwarf with bars came up today They could move They could move the needle 100% today.

For sure, for sure, for sure. Yeah, it's more of a meritocracy. Whereas in Pop, like, no. I'd be like pop is the hardest one. It's absolutely the hardest. I feel like you can be a country star and be ugly too. Freddie Mercury would be hard to get across the goal line. You think?

Nowadays. And I think particularly, because he's like a weird looking dude. Particularly for women. Like women, you must be hot. Yeah. Period. There is no Ed Shearin. Like, I mean, Adele, who is a beautiful person, but was like a fat woman.

Well, she was still beautiful. Yeah, absolutely gorgeous. Yeah. Lizzo, I guess, but that's rap again. That's kind of like an R&B. That's a different. Yeah. It's hard.

But it's like we're in an era of like Gracie Abrams who is, it's like, she combines NEPA with hot and in the songs. Yes. So it's like. She has the abs of like a fucking like. You mean grading Parmesan on them. It's insane. It's insane.

You don't have to have that to be what you. do. Right. But like we don't have ugly or even normal. Let me just say that. Who is the ugliest current male pop star? Ed Shearin. I think it's Ed Shearin. But see, that's my thing. And I'm agreeing with you, but he's not. Like, if I saw Ed Shearin walking in the mall, I wouldn't

be like, oh, look at that ugly guy. You're the other nicest person on the planet. He's cute. He's cute. Let me look at the billboard. I guess Alex Warren, who had that ordinary song. But it's a lot more Benson Boones than it is. anyone else. Yeah, Benson Boone's like perfect looking, right? Yeah.

He's like completely cut out of marble. I only ever see him flipping. Benson Boone is like he came out of like an American Idol factory. I didn't know. See, I think that looks like a stupid guy. Yeah, but a hot stupid guy. I don't think he's even hot.

I think he's got a dumb fucking face. I don't like this guy's face at all. Benson Boone? That's the word talking about. Benson Boone? No, I'm not into that. Yeah, but he's not. But it's a...

That she gets no play over here. No. Well, no, but he's like a good-looking dude. No, that's what I'm talking about. I think his face looks bad. You think so? Yeah, I don't like it at all. Wow.

I'd like to see the mustache-less version. Scott Abbs, though. He looks so much younger than I thought. Anyway, it's just interesting. We don't really get a ton of like... Yeah, it's tough. I mean, it is... You know, social media is so much about how you break an artist these days.

And I think that image... Like, even in indie, like, McGee is like a great-looking guy who's shredded. Yeah. And he plays like indie rock. Like, uh, was it, Cameron Winters like a good looking dude.

He's cute. Sumber. Yeah. All this to say, Elton John looked busted. Yeah. And was one of our, I don't know.

Was he busted? He dressed cool. He was behind those big ass sunglasses. Oh, he was busted. Super cool. He was. And,

and they didn't have. I feel like he was, there was a lot of layers between us. Busted is a, is a big term. Like busted? Elton John was kind of. Right?

Young Elton? Am I wrong? I just feel like It's so subjective. It's not. Because I don't think I don't think Benson Boone's an attractive guy.

Well here's the thing Here's what I think Lynx Boone and Elton. When you're doing too much with the wardrobe Yes. It speaks to an inner turmoil

In my opinion. Yeah. Like when you're, you know, Elton had the He had the Daffy Duck costume in November and he had like the

Sequen Dodger outfit dressed like Mozart in concert. Huge. Huge glasses. Yeah. It's like, what are we running from? What are we hiding from?

He was cool. He wasn't not cool. Yeah. I am seeing this young Elton and it's, yeah. Yeah. Homeover, like, on a hundred. You know. He looked a lot more like a dude who looked like he would be like in accounts.

Yeah. He feels like, look at these old pictures of Elton John. You're like, one of these he's going to be wearing a coofy, right? It's surprising you never got to it. Like, right? At one point, he was. And actually, like, on a camel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, it was some photo shoot and it just sort of like another camel with a piano on it. They didn't bring the fess. And that was back in an era where, you know, celebs didn't have the kind of personal maintenance technology that celebs can avail themselves of now. Yes. Like the plugs and the bow top and the stuff. The ever the trainer The dietation

Yeah, you were just like You had to have the hits Because it was a radio and an album thing And it was like I mean this is the whole MTV The Video Kill the Radio Star sort of thing Right? Like yeah

But yeah Elton John Kiki D Don't go break of my heart A great mom jam Absolutely thank you To close all the windows Time for my third My fourth fix

Let's hear it James Taylor fire and rain Oh I'm seeing fine I'm seeing fun And I'm seeing her Sweet baby James This is another like

A lot of these songs are also ones I did not start to appreciate until I was older. Yeah, you're like, oh. That's the point of mom jams. Yeah. That's what that's, you don't. The lyrics. Hold on. Deep.

There's a deepness. Hold on. I feel like there's a time that you hate. You love it as a little kid. Yeah. And then there's a time period where you really fucking hate it. Yeah. And then you come back to it as you get old.

Sue Carmel, two divorces under the belt. You know what I mean? My dad. My older siblings' dad. Fire and rain. A lot of kids. You know what I mean? But a happy woman.

A passionate. drug herself out of a very difficult childhood to have this like family. You know, so she's listening to songs. There's heartbreak in there. Yeah. But there's hope, too, and there's love. Just yesterday morning, they let me know you were gone. Yeah.

Beautiful voice. Susan, the plans they made and put an end to you. Seen it live. You've seen Sweet Baby James live? My dad took me. Did you really? I mentioned that I liked. Did you drive?

there. It was in Minneapolis. But I mentioned that I liked that song, and I think he got drunk and bought me James Taylor tickets. For me and this girl that I had maybe went on two dates with, who was now at college, on the way to Minneapolis. He's like, bring Amber. So I went and picked her up, went to James Taylor. Then my dad got drunk and pissed her off. Now see, James Taylor, young James Taylor, he could come out today. Yeah. And then I think he'd get plugs at a certain point in his career. Definitely. Did he go bald early? I think normal. He had that old,

he had like, he had like, he had like, he had like long, beautiful, they called him sweet baby James.

Okay. Yeah. But then he started getting the five head early like, like people in 80s movies around like Mexico. Oh,

Mexico. We would have gotten James Taylor live and Turkey. Right. Live in Turkey. Pretty early in that career.

You know what I mean? He would have been playing, he would have been playing some shows in Aikero. Oh, Istanbul. Losing my hair, so I just got to go. Oh, it's...

There would have been a different little career directory for Sweet Baby James there. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, and he would have covered a butt. Like, you know, he transitioned into mom jams. He was okay. Absolute mom jam. Yeah, James Taylor, Fire and Rain. That's going to be my third pick.

And then with my fourth pick, I've got to go with Roberta Flack, killing me softly. Ooh. That's a great one. That's a beautiful song. Yeah. That's a beautiful song. It's a beautiful song. Beautiful, beautiful song.

You know, she's not even her song originally. There was one other person before. Who's not aware of that? Let me see. Did Nina Simone sing it? No. I just listened to Nina Simone's the other day because I didn't like it that much. Nina Simone's killing me softly?

Yeah, I didn't like it that much. I like her, though. It was written Charles Fox and Norman Gimble with Lori Lieberman. It was inspired by her singing a Don McLean performance. Wow. Yeah. Oh, and Roberta Flack, it was a number one hit by her. She was the first person to bring it to number one,

but it was like came out a year earlier by Lori Lieberman. Damn. Interesting. That leads me to believe that, and I hope this isn't the case, that Roberta Flack didn't get enough paper for that. She probably didn't. She probably didn't, right?

She saw a lot of albums, though. Yeah. Yeah. Roberta Flatt died just last year. One of the fucking greats. One of the greats. One of the greats. But yeah, this one was on regular in the car,

to the point where for a lot of people I think the Fuji's version was the first time they heard it yeah yeah completely me because Sue Carmel loved Roberta Flax that's awesome who was discovered by some jazz music so you could drop knowledge when Fujis came out and you're like

it's actually a cover her just me and Bethany Elementary you guys you don't know what a cover is while someone else did you finish that band and cheese bike no I'm going to take that it's actually like a cover Roberta Flack's her albums with Donnie Hathaway

If anybody has not listened, those are great. Go ahead and listen to those. Anyway, those are my two picks. Love it. Jason, it's not for your four. This one is like, I remember my mom, we have a backyard kind of that draws crowds in the summertime with a pool, so there's a lot of kids, and then my mom would put this on when this song came out.

It is smooth by Santana. Man. And this is like a perfect. That's a driving to work song. It's a perfect. I think of my mom. It's a perfect storm because it's like, oh, an artist that maybe she kind of grew up with a little bit. Yeah.

That then comes back with some current material. Yeah. And it was like a perfect reason for her to get back on the Santana train. Yeah. That thing was huge. Huge. It was everywhere. The only, like, songs don't get that big anymore.

They don't do it in a way. That song was big. The mood was nuts. And by the way. Like 96, 97? 2000, I want to say. I don't think you were. 99 because they've

97.98 or something. There was like a salacious dance at our talent show. Wow. Okay. The popular kids danced to that at our talent show. And I'm like,

they're doing some scandalous shit. It was smooth and Maria Maria Maria were the two songs. Yeah. My mom, my mom loved this CD. It was a good TV. She had it.

She played it all the time. And by the way, I think that this is a mom. that maybe we could bring back, like, the older artist who collabs with current artists to, like, put out a huge record. Yeah, it was fun. It was fun. I didn't know anything else about Rob Thomas.

I had no clue who Santana was when that song came out. It wasn't like Lauren, what was that, Put Your Lights on song was like? With, uh, yeah, put your lights down low. Yeah. No, no, no, much. Uh, was her and Bob Marley? Am I making that up? Yeah, that's different.

Oh, that's a different song. Put your lights on? Who's that with? Oh, Everland. Everlast. Everlast had a couple like that. Did Sampana not do a song? Okay, I was there. I was complaining two things. Everlast.

Everlast from House of Pain. That album was great. I remember like getting going deep on it. Supernatural was big. Yeah, supernatural was massive massive. I couldn't admit that I liked. He did a few jazz guitar songs on there towards the end too or he's like, I'm still Santana.

I'm still going to get it done. I would love, who's like the artist who would like bring back and do like songs with newer guys. Tony Bennett. Sean Mayer 20 years from now. That's actually. Not a bad idea. I know it.

Keep that in your pocket. Yeah. I'll call him. Get him on the hook. I saw him at the movies one time. Yeah. Wasn't I with you guys? I've never seen John Mayer.

I've never seen John Mayer. I saw him at the Arclight. I was with Lance Bangs. Oh, nice. Wow. Does he know Lance Bangs? There's a non-zero chance. No, we weren't with him.

Oh. We were, I think we were seeing Get Out at the Arclight. Yeah. And I was making fun of this guy in front of us in line's shirt because he was wearing like a. ankle it was like it was like knee length denim it was like a denim robe almost those long shirts yeah i was like that's a fucking stupid shirt ha ha ha and then it is john mayer oh wow i'm wearing a long denim shirt right now it was longer than that was longer this it was like a

it was like a length it was i remember seeing those shirts yeah yeah you know what i'm talking that's like a tim duncan type fit yeah it was a bummer yeah like a cloak yeah probably a nice watch on with it though. I don't remember. I just remember his face because he had clearly heard me. Smooth by Carlos Santana. I've been getting into Santana recently, like some of the older, he got weird. He got into the fusion thing. Him and John McLaughlin

doing albums together. Yeah. Yeah. Where it's just like wild guitar ship. It's like 20 minutes of that. Of that. And then like flip the album, 20 more minutes of that. When I was in my like real jazz fusion phase. BoreBeletta by Santana. For anybody out there wants to listen to Santana when he was like shredding

at the top of his like technical, musical game, Borbeletta. It's a great drug album. I like that. And it's just, it's beautiful. Yeah.

Take my word for it. The atmosphere song called Borboletta. I didn't, is that a word? I have no idea. I have no idea. I have no idea. It has to be, doesn't it? When I flew back from Kauai,

Dana and I, it was like one of Dana and I's first trips. we're first class you know because we were like like it's just the two of us dual and shumino kids you don't have to you don't have to yeah you don't have to dress class

you know who's sitting right next to us who Carlos Santana fuck and his wife who used to play drums for Prince Sheila E. What not Sheila E's his wife? Different one different one maybe it's not drums but playing with the Santaana

his second wife Santana wife Cindy Blackman Oh Cindy Blackman She can shred the drums Yeah she played with a lot of people She played with a lot of people She played with Prince and she may have played with Prince once.

That's really cool. They ever play with Prince. I saw Lenny Kravitz. I saw Carlos Santana. Lenny Kravitz, the Prince of 1993. Yes. I don't get it.

Anybody? No, nothing. No, I was just, I was wrong. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw Carlos Santana a bunch of times because I was friends with people who were like these, I was in a band with these guys who were huge Santana heads.

So I saw him, like, I saw maybe three concerts straddling the supernatural era. And let me tell you, the supernatural era, the success of it, did not dim Carlos' like in-concert vibe because he would go on for all of these concerts. There'd always be a portion where, like, the band would go into this like vamp. And then he would just like shred. And then he would go on this like, I mean, like five to eight-minute monologue about,

how there are angels that walk among us. One of them is named like Metatron. Like there's an angel named Metatron who spoke to him and changed his life. And he talked about it for like 10 minutes of the concert. Oh. And there were probably a lot of people who were like, I love that Rob Thomas song. Yeah. Who went to go see San Antonio.

We're like, what the fuck? Smooth. Hey, Swo! Play, Spoo! And he's like, Metatron. He's playing like Abraxas B-Sides. for like two hours. Oh, that's funny. Bring out Michelle Branch.

And then the Meditron, and then smooth. He's like the third encore. Oh, that's tight. Carlos Santana, man, was a lot of linen. At least on the plane from Kauai. I believe. Yeah, that's, that's, come on. Yeah.

That's the Linen Depot. Deb your fourth pick. Like a prayer, Madonna. Oh. Big Mom, jam. A song I never understood the words, nor the music video, too. No. At the time or even now.

Yeah, I still don't really get what she was going for. It's about Felicio. She's crying, kissing Black Jesus' feet who turns into Leon. Yeah. I think there's some sort of stigmata that has. The video is a stigmata. The video's insane. I know the song's about S&A D.

We did, yeah, we did the 60 Songs episode about like a prayer and it is about Falacio. Sork and Dork. And it was supposed to be, I believe it was like her Pepsi song. I remember her big Pepsi campaign. Pepsi was like, wait a second. Wait, is this song about... The lyrics about sucking a dick

And then, like, black Jesus in it? I'm down on my knees, I want to take you there, yeah. In the midnight hour. I thought it was about when I could be praying. In the midnight hour, I could... It's crazy that she mixed all that iconography To make that video that you watch now and you're like, all right, this feels like a white lady video.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Feels like a white lady, a video, a white lady maybe to make me feel something that I don't really know. Why is there a choir there? There's a burning cross in that video. There is. There's several burning crosses. It's the video's insane.

The video's insane. This might be a white lady, especially who's reached a point in her career where everyone's afraid to say anything negative to her. Yeah, watch this. That's like, what is that? Bedtime stories era. Yeah, right around. Which Madonna is like that? The bedtime story is post like this is the biggest musician in the world, Madonna for sure.

She hadn't even got to the sex book yet. Yeah. So she was still a sex book. Pre-sex book. That thing was sitting on my stepdad's table. Yeah, 89. Okay. Well, my mom blast that shit

It's fucking big It's still such a good song It's my favorite Madonna song Really? Yeah, yeah Me too Yeah, most of the time Papa don't preach

I have to go on too I really love that I mean I like holiday Holiday is really good I like Laisliponita I like Laislau I like the one I like the one when she does the

Ava flip That I'm hung up I'm hung up on you I don't know Dooloo do laudu Tula do do do do Ray of Light is also really good.

That's a good one. Yeah. Like a bit of ray of light. That's a crazy air. The cowboy hat. Madonna was... That one with it. Yeah.

Bam bam bam. So yeah, we should draft Madonna. Liv to tell. I love it. I don't know that one. That's the one for the Sean Penn movie. Also called Live to Tell. Yeah.

What's the real sexy one? Don't cry for the... Not Vogue. The one from Avita is really good. Tina. Don't cry for me. Which one? Oh, come on.

It says, Don't da-da-da-da-da-baby, put your love into the test. The song is that. Express yourself. That song. That song's dope. That song's dope. You've got to make it.

Have you ever seen her, what was the name of the documentary, the black and white? Bedtime stories. Oh, no. The black and white documentary. where they're flashing people at the table. They're flashing people and she was dating, what's his name? Reds. Robert Redford?

No. The other one. Shampo. Oh, Beatty, baby, baby. She was dating Warren Beatty at the time and he was like backstage watching her duo get ready for the concert and he was just like, I'm old. I don't understand what you're up to, Madonna. He was by like 40 at the time. Yeah, yeah.

What have I gotten myself in? What is this? Yeah. But great. Actually, like a really interesting. concert documentary. Yeah, I remember watching it right when it came out and like being like, I don't get a lot of this. Yeah.

Because it was like in the 90s, right? It came out like in the 90s. They had it on IFC though. They played on IFC. Unedited. I remember I used to sneak into like Barnes & Noble to try and look at the sex book. Absolutely. Stepdad had it on his table at the crib.

I remember that. I got my hands on it young because he was still a bachelor. They didn't get the crib or we weren't married yet. Check this out, kid. Whoa. I'm going to go upstairs. I'm going to go upstairs. He just left it there.

It was scary. You know, what else is scary? What? You've only got two picks left. Ghosts. Long boogers are kind of freaky. When they feel like they're coming from a deep place. That's true.

The creature from the black lagoon? High enough by damn Yankees. I don't know. Can you take me high enough? Fly me over yesterday. Yesterday. There's a super group with the nudge and a couple of dudes from sticks. Tommy Shaw for.

from sticks. That's right. And then another, I just forget the other group, but it was like a super group. They had that one ballad. Oh, um, uh, they do Sister Christian. Yeah, Night Ranger. Night Ranger. Yeah, the guy from Night Ranger.

Yeah. Um, but it was probably if I, like, it's probably like my mom's favorite song of all time. But, uh, yeah, just a, just another ballad. Yeah. Ted Nugent, a piece of shit. That's a fine guitar solo. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Well, he's got a few of them. Huge piece of shit. Big time. piece of shit. A good guitar solo from the nuge on that, what's his, what's his big fever?

What is it? Cat scratch fever. And I feel like there's another one. You know, I didn't know that was a real thing. I thought it was just the song. No, it's a real thing. And then Alana described it the other day and I was like, I thought she was joking.

She was like, I think that's called Cat Scratch Fever. I was like, cat scratch fever. She's a, you got a song called Wango Tango and another one called Stranglehold. Strangle. That's the one I'm thinking of it. Stranglehold is the one. Got you in a strangle hole, baby.

You best get out of the way. It's so good. You know that one, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. More of a dad jam. I think that one. Big time.

Last pick, I'm going, Shaniah Twain, any man of mine. Oh. That was a big Midwestern mom jam for... Any man or man, man, man, I want the line. Better show me a tease and pleasing kind of time. Specifically in Elizabeth,

with some friends' moms a little too many bud lights deep putting on some Shania. Let me tell you. You're tying a shirt around there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. My buddy's mom. So glad you graduated.

Type of energy. My buddy's mom would wear like almost her underwear around the house and clean up and listen to that song. And I'm older now and I think, I think she was weird. I think she was weird. I think she was weird.

Well, because I think it was on purpose. When I was a kid, I'm like, what a crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, there's no way an adult woman doesn't. She was very attractive too, where I'm like... Oh, so it was awesome. We're 13. It was awesome.

Yeah. I was 13. I was in that pocket. Yeah, yeah. You're like, oh, my God. But then it's like your friend's mom and you're like, how many reasons are there to go upstairs right now that are going to be believable? Oh, that poor guy probably... He probably stopped having kids over so much, right. Yeah.

Yeah. He's in therapy right now talking about. He's having the same. One other dude there, not six. He was an asshole. But anyway, yeah, Schneider Twayneed, any man of mine. Great talk. Schneid Twayne, one of the most beautiful.

women to ever be in music. Let's go, girls. Absolutely. Yeah, she killed it. Just came in swinging too. It hits. It's one of the most beautiful Canadian. Yeah. Beautiful Canadian women. Married to Mutt Lang, the super producer, Muttlang. Who I believe she divorced because you cheated on her. How Mutt. What are you doing? What are you doing, Mutt lang?

Married a, married a dog, not a Mutt. Don't go Eric Bonae. Never go Eric Bonae. Never do it. It's too bad that song came out after. Yeah. She really was like, in the day. wearing the Canadian tuxedo like that look. Well, and like a strong woman in country at that time.

Yeah. It didn't feel like that was happening a lot. Like what? Like your Pam Tillis had just, they weren't really relevant. And a new kind of. Pam Tillis of the world. A new kind of country pop too.

That was like, was it country or was it pop? Yeah, it was like introducing us into that. Yeah. It was both for sure. Holy cross. Whose bad have your boots been under? That was my favorite back in the day. We could draft Shania Twain songs, too.

That's a little. David, your final pick. The soundtrack of a movie that also exploded in her little peer group, Mary J. Blige, knock on cry from the way the exhale. Eleven years of sacramide. I can see her belting that out on the stage. Oh, man. That is another many and shit.

Mary Jay's whole thing was many and shit. Maybe nobody did it better. Yeah, what's the 411 was my mom's big marriage with like real love and all that shit? Yeah, that shit. It wasn't until she went to the dancery that she did a song about men not being shit. You know what I mean? I mean, real love. That first album was not as men ain't shit, but like, but all the shit she does that's good is men ain't shit.

Yeah, you broke my heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like, we've been too strong for too long. Yeah. Oh, man, that shit's so good. I'm tired too. She is tired. A little bit.

I love her. That's why she dances like that. Yeah, she seems like, Mary Jay seems like. She dances like her feet hurt a little bit. She seems like somebody you know who all of a sudden just like could sing. Yeah. Yeah. I think that was the whole appeal, right?

Yeah. No, she's amazing. Not going to cry. Amazing. Waiting to exhale. Seen it too many times. Yeah. Donald Faison really having a tough time in that movie.

Absolutely. Really going through it because his father's gay. What is that what I've never seen Wayne in Exhael? Oh, you should. It's about black people in Arizona. It's good. It is. That's what the movie's about.

Well, sure. But you should. It's about black people in Arizona. That's not like a, it's not not a selling point. It's like it's not what it's about. That is what it's about. That's who's in it. Yeah.

It's about a community of black women in Arizona. Okay. Yeah. And there are troubles with me. men. Okay. Well, that's what it's about. It's about troubles with men.

From the Terry. Listen, all Terry McMill, I'd say the same thing. Still got her groove back. Yep. About corporate ladies in Jamaica, fucking young dudes. Yep. Well, as I say, you should see the godfather. It's about Italians.

I'm in. That would add be. I'd be like, yeah, that sounds interesting. Sold. It's not an Italian-American family. But, yeah. Waiting and Excel, very fun. Great movie.

Great sound. Robin Givens looks pretty amazing. Robin Givens, wow. Really an early boomerang. Yeah. Good God. Robin Givens in that scene in

wedding exhales. Wow. Crazy. I don't know. We just all. Does it happen in Arizona? Oh yeah. You got to chill over there.

You're not nearly as mellow as I thought. Oh yeah. Jason, you're your final pick? My mom bumped this one a lot and I also feel like this is this is a more contemporary mom jam for her.

Waterfalls by TLC. Oh yeah. She fucked heavy with no scrubs too but Waterfalls was really the one. Waterfalls was amazing. A little more what won't we? Wot wow. More of a jail.

It was a rap. It was a wrap. It was every. It had that little rap at the end. Yeah, but she went crazy. I think Lisa Lope left eye, Lopez's best. verse was waterfall. Not by lonely cause. There's actually no question that it was that.

I don't think you have anything else is close to that. Came close. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For like a storytelling verse that fit the overall theme of the, like it was great. And it just quotables. So quotable. What a shame you shoot name for someone else's brain. Yeah.

Come on. Yeah, dude. Incredible chorus. Yeah. It just rips. Video amazing. Turn into water technology. That was, dude.

I mean, that was like. Yeah, change videos. that was like from the abyss nobody had seen that before it was like they were water doing the bump yeah yeah those really things yeah the liquid bump yeah they were doing the

remember the bump did you guys yeah absolutely I didn't do the bump but I didn't know it you're doing it now that's how I'm it wasn't the first time I've done it it feels good couple bumpy boys on the couch I love a T-Boss too I thought she I was a T-Boss guy as well

T-Baws was the top chilly left eye for me guys are it was t-bos and then left-eye guys are crazy chili has the least personality yeah

well he's got enough yeah I'll handle that you got personality in space I'll handle that and chili doesn't drink dog I don't know what you're gonna do great

he's very used to that his wife doesn't drink yeah Lord has never had a drink you went and found your chili uh where we all found you were going to go and find your chilies the restaurant

we went to Appleby's the other night You almost got through. Bake your pick. It's been weeks. I'm going to take Melissa Etheridge, I want to come over. I don't even know that song. I want to come over to hell with the consequence. Oh, that sounds...

You told me you loved me. That's all I ever need. It's so good. I like that. Melissa Etheridge had like... Was she come to my window? Yeah, in my window. Come to my window!

I almost picked that just because that to me is a mom-jew. Any of the, I want to come over, come to my window, or I'm the only one. Any one of those three. Oh, I'm the only one. Damn, those are three. That's bangers. Bangers. Yeah.

Dude, Etheridge. She came with it. Hard. She came hard. She came with it. She sounds like a cigarette. She does sound like a cigarette after a long shift. Shred.

On their docks. Yeah. I love Melissa Etheridge. I didn't take any, but now that it's over, Anita Baker, it was the other. Oh, Anita Baker, okay. Lots of Anita Baker, lots of Melissa Etheridge. Sweet love.

So much of it. But yeah, Melissa Etheridge, who just fucking, like, kills it. Man. I don't know if that's all in one album, but whatever, like, that was, those three songs. I think I was aware of Melissa Etheridge, like, as an artist. Yeah. And that she must have had a career before those.

Yeah. But that really took her to a whole different level. She had a group. I thought she was in a group early on. I don't think so. Maybe you might be right. I know David Crosby is the biological father of her children. That's right.

Really? Hell of a pick there. Hell of a pick. I would have gone there. Interesting pick. Nash? Yeah. I think Nash made him son unavailable for sperm.

He was very clear about, no, I don't know. Band? Not really. Who was it in the video? of come to my window? Oh, I don't know. This happened for me exclusively in a car. Who's saying where have all the cowboys gone?

Paul Cole. Yeah. Who was that? Paula Cole. Andrews was discovered at Verme's a bar in Pasadena. She had made some friends on a women's soccer team. Okay. I bet you did.

Okay. I watched a lot of women's soccer. And those new friends came to see her play, one of whom was Carla Leopold, whose husband Bill Leopold was a manager. There you go. Interesting. Yeah.

Backstory. Solo. I love those kind of like on the come up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you hear it and you're like, okay, that does happen sometimes. Someone saw you perform and then they put you on.

At the grocery store singing outside. Yeah. Yeah. That level. Fucking Melissa Ather. She's fucking girl. I would love to see her alive if she's still doing that. Iceman, do you have a pick?

Sure. This is going to be specific to my mom who was very religious. Growing up, I would hear her listen to and sing along to a lot of gospel music. Yeah. I'm specifically taking In the Sanctuary by Kurt Carr. Oh, yeah. You know it.

You know it. No, I was like, I was like, I was like, I'm sorry. That was fucked up. Anybody who listened to gospel growing up knows this song. It's like, we lift the hands in the sanctuary. We lift the hands to give you the glory. It's like very Jesus. Have you heard that song like stand on the word that's been making the rounds?

That's like a gospel song? I'm sure I know it. That's bit like on the. One of those do, stand on the word by the Zhu Bear singers. What? I'll play it after this. It fucking goes. Are they Jewish?

No, they're not Jewish. They're not Jewish. They're not Jewish. Donnie Babylon. Do you have a pick? Yeah, so I text my mom just in case. She gave me three. I'll pick one of them.

Give us all three. Okay, all three. She said these were super early in the 80s, so you weren't very old, but that's when I kind of stopped listening to music. Yeah. Because you wrecked everything. All the way. You were a burden.

I had a fucking kid trying to stop having fun. So sweet dreams by Eurythics. Oh, yeah. I had to be Ury. When Doves Cry. Yeah. And total clips of the heart. Hell yeah.

Oh, yeah. Those are all good. Those are nice. My mom knew what time it was. To recap, Sean, you went first, you took Crazy Bitch by Buck Cherry. I still believe by the greasy, by the greasy buff guy from Lost Boys.

More the words by Extreme. High enough by Damn Yankees and than any man of mine by Shania Twain. Had to throw a woman in there just at the end. David, you went second. You took Tyrone by Erica Badu. Straight up, now tell me by Paula Abdul. I will survive by Gloria Gaynor, like a prayer by Madonna,

and knock on cry by Mary J. Blatt. Men really ain't shit. Yeah. We're not doing a good job. David and Isaac both took gospel music. Big time. Like a prayer. Yeah, like a prayer.

Jason, you went 30, you took Uptown funk by Bruno Mars, Don McLean by American Pie. Don't go breaking my heart by Kiki and Elton John, who is busted, smooth by Carlos Santana, and Waterfalls by TLC. I went last,

I took yours so far away by Carol King, Nick of Time by Bonnie Raid, Fire and Rain by James Taylor, killing me softly, Roberta Flack, and I want to come over by Melissa Etheridge. We left a lot on the board. There's a lot. Why by Annie Lennox. These are the Days by 10,000 Maniac.

I love that song. Give me one reason, Tracy Chapman. Tell me how by Michael Bolton. It can break you heart. Oh, yeah, you can bring your heart. Billy Ray. My mom texted me three songs, her three favorite songs, which are nothing.

In My Life by The Beatles. I did it My Way by Frank Sinatra, an unchained melody by Righteous Brothers. Three songs, I have never heard her listen. No, I'm joking, no. She definitely loves those songs. But, like, didn't really feel like mom jams to me. I had some BG's on here.

My mom sent me Bee Gees, Guess Who, Three Dog Night sticks. My mom sent me Uptown Girl by Billy Joel and Dustin the Wind by Kansas, which is a song I... I don't want that to be a mom. I remember from the emergency room when I was, like, having a very bad asthma attack, but I lived. Yeah, yeah. And I think that's why it's her favorite song.

Because I remember passing out to dust in the wind. And I remember thinking like, why the fuck are you playing this song in the emergency? Terrible hospital song. Absolutely. Awful. But I lived. And so now I wonder if it's not because of that. That's beautiful.

She's at my side. That really is. Yeah. That's beautiful. You want to start crying? The asthma's there only for a moment. And then the moment's gone. No, it's in cheese.

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