All Fantasy Everything - Outer Space (w/ Andy Wood)

Episode Date: May 16, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is All Fantasy Everything, the podcast where we fantasy draft anything and everything from the world of pop culture. On today's episode, we're drafting Outer Space. I'm your host, Ian Carmel, and joining me today, I'm doing this whole thing out of order, is our wonderful guest, Andy Wood, a stand-up comedian, a scientist, a Jeopardy contestant. We're not going to touch on that at all. He's not going to bring it up.
Starting point is 00:00:32 And I'm your host, Ian Carmel. With me as always, my friend, Sean Jordan and David Borey. Let's get into it. I'm being spacey today, as in thing. welcome to another brand new episode of all fantasy everything although this is really more of an all sci-fi fantasy everything. But not even the fi. Just an all science everything. Sci.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I have some fi. I have some fi in mind. I got some fi. I mean, theoretically. Oh, you got some fi? Okay. Yeah. Well, how deep do you want to get, bro?
Starting point is 00:01:16 How much do you want to decompress after this? Is it fi? Or is it just what the government decides to tell us is sci? I was talking about this like just doing the list on the couch last night and i can only talk about this stuff for mere minutes before i start to question reality and like religion all this stuff comes into play so i'm like yeah i get panicky don't you guys i do yes i find it comforting. Andy, you can talk whenever, by the way. This is not one of those.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Sorry. You don't got to listen to us. Listen to us figure it out real quick. I think, yeah, looking at the night sky used to be something that gave me some existential dread. And then at some point in the last 10 or 20 years, I'm Camp David over here. Not Camp David.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Oh, wait. It's comfy. Camp David over here. Not Camp David. Oh, wait. No, come on in. Boats, lake boats. Team David. I remember very distinctly being at a sleepover with my friend Julianian congsley
Starting point is 00:02:26 shout out to him he's listening he ended up going to mit he was like the smartest kid at our whole school and like he was telling me about space and just talking about like where it ends and can it end it like keeps going forever and like see that right then you went to sleep and i was laying there with my eyes open for like hours, just like, what the fuck? Where does it end? Like, it's the thing I've told myself is that an ant doesn't understand what a laptop computer is. So I don't understand how space works. And that gives me some peace.
Starting point is 00:02:56 You don't find that comforting? That, that, the ant laptop thing comforts me, but not the other thing before it. That's the only part of it I find comforting. Because I was, same thing, Ian. I remember, I wasn't a sleepover, but I remembered one night just thinking about all that. And I was in sixth grade and I was like, I'm going to die.
Starting point is 00:03:10 And then that for, I remember that taken up like a year of my life. It was probably a week, but laying in bed every night being like, what's the point? It's all, I mean, I'm going to die,
Starting point is 00:03:18 but you know, thankfully that went away, but space is what brought me. Andy, what is the point? Why'd you bring this up, Andy? You just wanted me to wreck the Monday? Yeah, some cans of worms can't be unopened
Starting point is 00:03:32 and this is just going to put some people in an uncomfortable headspace and I can't apologize for that. We're just pushing the ball forward on humanity. By the way, when you introduced me as a scientist, I got to push back a little bit. I hold a bachelor's degree in engineering. If I'm a scientist-
Starting point is 00:03:48 I'm not hearing a pushback. I'm not hearing a pushback at all. Did you fake it? Did you forge it or something? What's the pushback? Can I correct and say a man of science? A science enthusiast. A science enthusiast.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Hoster of a science and comedy podcast because I love it. But yeah, I think some people would be like, Andy's a scientist? I guess we're all scientists. enthusiast of a science and comedy podcast because i do i do i love it but yeah i think some people would be like andy's a scientist i guess we're all scientists in a way aren't we yeah comparatively you are okay you're the most sciencey person who's been on our podcast i think is that true i would i mean what's real with that who else would it be i think that that's pretty safe to say it's true. It's either you or Shane Torres. Yeah, Shane. Does he have a STEM degree
Starting point is 00:04:29 I don't know about? He has a doctorate. A seasoned STEM degree. He has a doctorate in theoretical physics. You didn't know that? I forgot. Dr. Torres. That's why we always call him Dr. Torres. I forgot that. I think you might actually be the person with at least the most interest in science.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Have you had Brooks Whelan on? No. Did we have Brooks on? No, we did. We did forever ago, right? Yeah. Well, he also, when I started, when Matt Kirshen and Brooks Whelan and I started our podcast, Probably Science, it was because the three of us all had STEM degrees.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And Matt was like, hey, we should do something related to that. Because, yeah, Brooks was doing biomedical engineering up until like within months of getting SNL. I think he just stopped showing up to the lab once he got hired at SNL, but didn't tell his boss. I would not believe that that's why that guy quit coming to work. That surprised me more than anything I'm going to hear in the next two hours talking about space. Yeah, that's true. That's a pretty great story. What is STEM?
Starting point is 00:05:29 Let me cut you off. What is STEM? Oh, science, technology, engineering, and math. Oh, okay. Sweet. Girls in STEM is a big push, Sean, so you might be able to get Maxine there in the STEM stuff. Nah, she's already shooting free throws. I've decided where I've decided where I've decided where
Starting point is 00:05:46 she's going to focus her efforts. I think your wife is a woman in STEM. I should know. Right? Didn't she major in, what's her college major? She's got a degree in zoology and children's education. There you go. You're married to a scientist and you didn't.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Dude, it's shocking how much I don't know about that stuff. About your wife. Because it doesn't matter to me all that much. I mean, it's cool, but I don't those details, just like I don't know what a lot of my friends do for a living. That can't be too different from you guys, right? I don't know what Nampe does. I never have.
Starting point is 00:06:22 But he's a great friend. You know what I mean? I don't want to call him out. I know what Nampe does. I never have. But he's a great friend. You know what I mean? I don't want to call him out. I know what Nampe does. I know that he works in production for Nike. Yeah, I've talked to him about it a lot. He was on the Nocta team. Yeah. Maybe cut that out.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I don't know if we're supposed to. I'm not that kind of producer. Although now we're hearing that Nampe is having work for Drake. That's what I mean. Maybe we pull it all out. Hold on. But I've talked to Nampeay i've talked to nampay at length at what he does i have too but i couldn't tell you exactly what that job entails
Starting point is 00:06:50 what the title is yeah i don't know i'm just like what are you doing on wednesday i'm not exactly sure even now we're airing about completely on national uh podcast welcome this is all fantasy everything welcome to name day talk on all fantasy everything uh whatever he is doing he's phenomenal at it i know that much speaking of zoology thank you to courtney yeah from the what is the exact name of the zoo in madison but it's got it's got like an exact name the name of their son who passed yeah they're frank villa is that right henry villa the henry villa zoo hold on i can look it up right now and tell you it's a free zoo it's a free zoo in manchester wisconsin and we got a behind the scenes sean you did it like a
Starting point is 00:07:40 month ago or so we got a behind the scenes tour we got to feed bears bro courtney yeah i didn't get to feed any bears we fed grizzly bears and polar bears could you feed it was fucking crazy the opener wasn't good so you just fed them to the bears which we fed them the mc was lovely but we fed them to the polar bears anyway um the rhino did not want to talk to us no did you get hands on rhino no no they brought us over to the rhino she had these alfalfa cubes and was like trying to get the rhino to come over and like it was sunny and he was laying in the dirt and he just did not he was like he wasn't yeah he has stood in the crossroads that we've all stood at, which is, am I too comfy to admit how hungry I am? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:30 His ears even perked up for a second. He was like thinking about it and then he went back down. I got a bad experience with you probably. He was like, I don't want to go over to another one of these AFE boys. He's never experienced such a strong touch before. I touched the rhino and you could tell the rhino was like, whoa didn't realize that well they said hey shane touched him so yeah they had to pull shane out of the cage he was in there trying to box had like shane had an emotional connection to the rhino like a real like i don't know if we should be airing out courtney like this
Starting point is 00:09:00 airing out courtney airing out shane but she said that shane had a very emotional like sort of you know intimate but not sexual some people say intimate they mean sexual that is not what i mean i mean intimate emotional connection with this rhinoceros well they're both tiny frog mouth frog mouth a tiny frog mouth yeah i agree yep those things are dang wait am i thinking of the right thing in the where the turtles are the bird dude it was this crazy bird it like looked like an owl but half of its body was a mouth and it had the what did they call the membrane so it like blinked sideways oh yeah blink it's like it can blink three ways like elevator doors it It had elevator door eyelids? It was scary, man.
Starting point is 00:09:47 We saw that thing and they were feeding it mealworms and I didn't want to touch one because they were alive. And thankfully it stopped eating them before it got to me because I was going to have to be like, I'm just not going to touch that. We touched the worms. Yeah, we touched the worms. You and RFK, man.
Starting point is 00:10:01 See that red panda? We saw the panda. This is not a zoo podcast, though. But... If we just recap all the animals we saw, that's going to sound like listening to a toddler's podcast. We saw a red panda. Also, it's like,
Starting point is 00:10:21 we could all talk about all the stuff that happened in Wisconsin. Maybe some people almost got diarrhea. lot of shit happened almost what do you have okay well in the words of that person it hit the cheeks not the streets oh almost almost they had diarrhea it just didn't you mean diarrhea somebody somebody on this podcast who was in madison in the, let's say, two months. So that really opens it up to any of the three of us. It does.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Went for a long walk. After a bike ride. After a bike ride. I don't know how much of this is my story to share. Not to tip the hand at all. You can tell my story. And cheese curds and a milkshake in the same day. After not having a drink for a long time.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yeah. In the same day after not having a real long time yeah in the same sitting a cheese curd milkshake you got i yeah and it uh it did what it does yeah man somebody's phone was dying and somebody had decided to wear white shorts and it was just like very touch and go for a minute there and then someone texted his partner and said the worst has happened and she said are you okay and he said i half did this and she said how do you half do this and he who is a very clever stand-up comedian patreon.com backslash david bory go buy a special he said because it hit the cheeks not the streets oh but it was a tough time to walk with it in the cheeks i luckily got an uber oh no i was scared because the it was is that could hurt after a while. And also, that's a tough, every step is a game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Every step is a game. It's like the NBA Finals. Yeah. Exactly. That's how I felt. Single elimination is the way to play. I got half eliminated. That was the problem.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I stayed in on a technicality. You were down 3-1 in the series. You had to win every game to come back by the way the initial message to the significant other from this friend of yours sounded almost like a civil war letter I was like is that what happens when you're about to lose control of your bowels
Starting point is 00:12:36 my dearest Margaret it brings me great sadness to be without you I have been in the bogs of Kentucky for six months now the bogs of Kentucky for six months now. The bogs of Kentucky were almost in you. And Tatum was the day of days. Madison ruled.
Starting point is 00:12:55 We got that hot steamed cheese bread, walked around the farmer's market, went to the zoo. It was beautiful. Thank you to everyone who came out to that show and to Burlington, Vermont, which also ruled and was full of delicious treats i love an isthmus dude al you're on isthmuses can't keep us off isthmuses isthmus eve is uh we celebrate that i'm protestant we're isthmus men like businessmen does that work at all i'm not an isthmus man i'm an isthmus man a buddy of mine a buddy texted me today randomly and he's like is it crazy that I got furious that someone needed to be explained who Lord Tariq and Peter Guns were sometimes I forget how much Lord Tariq and Peter Guns come up on here like yeah you're probably on our top 50 references yeah Lord Tariq or Peter Guns who Who do you like better? Andy, I'm asking you. Oh, good Lord.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah. Too much pressure to pretend that I know these people. They didn't bring it up on Jeopardy? There, I got it in. Jeopardy. Right? Yeah. What's the artist? The two of them together are called what? Lord Tariq and Peter Guns.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Oh, I thought it was a duo. Oh. They are two rappers who rapped together for a while called Lord Tariq and Peter Guns. I'm not a businessman. I'm a businessman is a lyric of theirs. That's cheesy.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I thought that was how you got to this point. They have the lyric and I love sex. And I rock and roll Lex and I love sex one of them is the host of cheaters now if that helps I know you're a big cheaters guy and Sean gets the board
Starting point is 00:14:33 Jeopardy Jeopardy reference oh man if I had the board please I'll go Sean then you can say what you're going to do with the board Sean is Jordan on Twitter. Sean Cougar, Mel Jordan on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And if he had the board, dot, dot, dot, I think I'd buckle. I don't jeopardy. I think there would have to be, I mean,
Starting point is 00:14:56 it would have to seriously be like burritos or escape something where I'm like, I know everything. I think I would buckle. I also think I'd forget to say what is all the time. And from what I hear, they're not very forgiving with that. Actually, pro tip. In the first round known as the Jeopardy round,
Starting point is 00:15:14 you do not have to say what is. Really? Andy would. I actually not, I forgot if it's the first thing that you answer in the game or if it's the entire round. I want to say the entire round, they will still give it to you.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And in the double jeopardy round, they will say incorrect if you don't. And you also always have until the host like acknowledges to correct yourself. So if you wanted to get lazy, the first, the jeopardy round, you could not do the questions and they'll just gently remind you
Starting point is 00:15:45 but they won't just mark you incorrect fdr next one that's good to know right what i would do then if like you were gaming jeopardy is i would train myself to every gaming jeopardy well a lot of people game jeopardy though well that's matamodio yeah yeah yeah right where there's like time there's like buzzer technique and all that stuff i would answer and then go but so the host couldn't go in until i was 100 sure you'd fake a stunner so i'd be like what is fdr but harry truman as long as sounds keep going you can't it's like filibustering on the jeopardy floor yeah yeah that way way Ken Jennings couldn't jump in there. Sean, where can people see you do stand-up comedy on the heels of my excellent idea?
Starting point is 00:16:31 You know the all-fantasy-everything tour. We're hitting the streets. We're going to be out in the East. We're going to be in the Midwest. I'll just rip them off right now. We're hitting the cheeks, just to be clear. We're hitting the cheeks and not the streets. I might hit the streets.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I almost hit the streets last time. Who knows? Who's to say? By June 22 the streets i might hit the streets i almost hit the streets last time who knows who's to say by by june 22nd i might hit the streets that's either you're over there june 11th new york city june 12th philly june 13th back to new york june 14th dc june 15th toronto going to the 6th june 16th boston june 18th pittsburgh june 19th cleveland, June 18th, Pittsburgh, June 19th, Cleveland, June 20th, Detroit, June 21st, Chicago, June 22nd, Minneapolis. And yeah, are we saying who? Isaac can cut this out. Are we saying who we're bringing?
Starting point is 00:17:14 Should we say it? We're bringing Shane Torres. We've been telling people. Shane's coming to all the shows. I'm really going to push for one of the shows for him to let us draft our favorite Shane nicknames. Who's to say if he's going to let that happen? It could be in your city. If I was him, I would not do it.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I'm persuasive, and so it could be in your city. You catch him in the right mood, it'll happen. It might just get sprung on him, and he doesn't have anything to say about it. Yeah, I might just be doing it the whole time. A little mini draft draft every city. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:17:47 it's going to be, it's going to be fantastic. I'm very excited to just see you guys and hang out with you guys for an extended period of time. Again, been too long. I too can't wait. And also I'll be doing hot tub in Los Angeles next week.
Starting point is 00:18:00 So that's on Wednesday. It's a standup show on Wednesday. I don't know where it's at. I'm sorry. If you're in LA, or the exact date, if you're in LA, just look for me in hot tubs. Just go around, find a hot tub. I might be in it. Doing stand-up. Nobody's coming to that.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Just to be clear. Yeah, come see us on tour. Nobody's coming, dude. David Borey's here. CoolGuyJokes77 on Instagram. That's it. Patreon that's it Patreon as well patreon.com backslash David Borey I'm recording when does this come out next week
Starting point is 00:18:34 two days you're recording your special oh I'm recording my special on Saturday I think it might be sold out but if it's not go to patreon.com backslash David Borey and also when it comes available you can purchase it there i've been posting all kinds of content and videos and stuff like that showing you the process of me getting ready for it and asking some of your questions
Starting point is 00:18:56 it's very exciting also the all fantasy everything tour also juneth, I'm headlining Helium Portland. What? Yeah, I just, I completely forgot about the date until today. And I don't have anything as far as material goes. So come watch your boy build it up. I'm here. Can I open for you? Yes, you can.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Don't let him do it, dude. I've seen him open. I've seen him open. I'm here. Can I open for you? Yes, you can. Don't let him do it, dude. I've seen him open. I've seen him open. I wrote some new jokes. I want to open for both of you because I have new jokes now and Ian doesn't believe I can write jokes anymore. Don't let him do it. I don't have any new jokes. You don't have to. I have some ideas down on paper, so it's truly going to be
Starting point is 00:19:40 a weird situation. And then in July, Exploding Kittens finally comes to Netflix, so watch that. And, you know, that's enough for me. Exploding Kittens. Andy, what is here? Hello. First scientist. Let's just keep
Starting point is 00:19:56 saying scientist. I like it. Yeah, it feels good. Andy T. Wood on Twitter. Are you on Instagram as well? Andy T. Wood. I think, yeah, all the platforms. I didn't get into TikTok. That was the end. That's the end of the line for me. T stands for TikTok, right?
Starting point is 00:20:10 Andy TikTok Wood. Andy TikTok Wood. Prominent scientist, stand-up comedian, host of the Probably Science podcast. Oh, yes, indeed. Long running, 12 years now. It's the current incarnation for the last eight plus years has been, um, she 10 years has been, uh,
Starting point is 00:20:27 Jesse case and Matt Kirshen and myself doing the weekend science news with various guests. Some of whom have no science acumen and some of whom are former commanders of the international space station or Neil deGrasse Tyson. Wild. So to him, that's the guy who doesn't have any. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Yeah. And then if we're doing plugs i i am very pleased to announce a an event here i live in the desert if i haven't already mentioned that in joshua tree and uh caitlin gill lives in the high desert as well you guys know comedian caitlin gill yeah and she also now uh leads stargazing with a company called skywatcher out here. So she and I and the Probably Science Boys decided to put on this event called 229 and Beyond, a weekend of stand-up scientists and stargazing in 29 Palms. So we're going to have a stand-up from Bobcat Goldthwait, Reese Darby, Natasha Leggero, Moshe Kasher. We're doing live Probably Science with my friend Farah Alabe from NASA JPL. We're doing live Endless Honeymoon podcast with Moshe Kasher. We're doing live probably science with my friend Farah Alibay from NASA JPL.
Starting point is 00:21:26 We're doing live endless honeymoon podcasts with Moshe and Natasha. And we'll have trivia to kick off the night because I can't not mention Jeopardy. And then every night after these stand up and podcasting, we have hours of guided stargazing on high end telescopes. So you can enjoy the dark night skies of 29 Palms. It's going to be super fun yeah if you want to go to 229 and beyond.com it's to29 and beyond it's june 7th and 8th in 29 palms california this is amazing yeah that sounds so sick man we went uh this place i got married at we went to stay there and check it out before we before the wedding a. And they had stargazing. And this girl's name
Starting point is 00:22:05 was Flash, who was guiding the whole thing. The big rule, the whole camp, no lights. No lights of any kind. And somebody like... Not even red lights? No. No lights of any kind. So somebody, I swear to God, someone like 200 yards away had a flashlight. And she stopped. She's talking to us. She stops. She's like, hey! And just screamed
Starting point is 00:22:21 because you could hear them. What'd she say? Real biting. She's like, you're interrupting, but way loud enough so they could hear it two football fields away. It was fantastic. It was very fun. It's easy to lose your night vision. Yeah, just one bright light. You can do a red headlamp that doesn't
Starting point is 00:22:38 make your... I forgot if it's rods or cones, but one of those two in your eyes is the one that is useful in low light and it can't do color and why are are you laughing why do you think i'm laughing i said rods and cones and i'm immature so i'm and i'm laughing that i'm laughing at it so that's what i'm like boobs and penises what do they have to do with this yeah yeah but you got to keep that night vision yeah it's important uh It's my favorite vision. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Well, that sounds amazing. Everybody go to that. My name is Ian Carmel. Anything else you want to promote, Andy? That's really it. Yeah, I just want to see everybody out in the desert June 7th and 8th. That sounds amazing.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah, man. And the podcast is called Probably Science, but yeah. Probably Science. And he's a scientist. Add Ian Carmel on Twitter. Add Ian Carmel on instagram at ian carmel on youtube tiktok follow me on all those places the main thing to push please please please now is the time to order t-shirt swim club to get that pre-order and it comes out june 11th i have hard copies of the book now i went to the publisher in new york city they have hard copies of the book now. I went to the publisher in New York City.
Starting point is 00:23:46 They gave me copies of the book. At first, I thought it was just a book jacket around one of Rush Limbaugh's old books. It's not. It's all the work that I wrote in there. It's real. Pre-orders help tremendously. And you can get it now at oneplacesbookshop.org
Starting point is 00:24:05 where you can pre-order it from a local bookstore. So they get the money. You can get it from Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Powell's, Hudson Booksellers, Walmart, Target, all those places. Books a million. It's 13 essays that I wrote with my little sister about just being fat.
Starting point is 00:24:22 They're funny. They're poignant. They're touching. I think they're relatable. And because of my sister, who has a doctorate in clinical psychology, they're also intelligent and informed and educated. That's everything you can ask.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And then also come see us on the All Fantasy Everything book tour, or not book, the All Fantasy Everything tour, where I will sign your book. We're going to sell books at the shows. There'll be people from local bookstores. I will sign it in Sean Jordan's blood. Sign it.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Or David Zaire. Sign it in my crib, dude. I ain't got blood. Both available in spades. In spades on the tour. I'll be more than happy to sign those books, so bring those to the shows. And, yeah. We might have some exclusive
Starting point is 00:25:05 merch at the shows too i forgot about that i think we're working oh yeah that's right i gotta check in on that email today exclusive merch at the shows it's gonna be it's gonna be everything you hope for more also deviate is that the first time you got your hands on an actual copy of your book it's first time you touched a hard copy of the the actual one i had like uh galleys which are like you know not the official book itself. Oh, okay. Well, sick, man. Congrats. That's, you know. I don't condone violence, but wouldn't it be
Starting point is 00:25:31 cool to hit somebody with a book you wrote? Yes. Yeah. Like if it was like righteous? You know what I'm saying? Like you had to defend yourself and all you had was your giant book. That's also the easiest way to get the knowledge into someone's head. Like if you just hit me really hard with the book, I don't have to read it.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I'll know what happened. I'll slam you in the dome with my book on this tour. You just let me know. That's how I've taken in all of bell hooks. Somebody hit me in the face with We Real Cool. That's why they call it hooks, dude. Bell jams. Bell uppercut
Starting point is 00:26:05 roundhouse me with all about love how it feels it doesn't you gotta take a couple days after you read those books maybe some celibacy yeah yeah yeah just sit with yourself so come see us on the road
Starting point is 00:26:22 go see Andy Wood's show out in the desert frequent our wares. We really appreciate you. Thank you to everyone who came out and who's been coming out and continues to come out. It is sincerely wonderful to meet all you on tour and get to talk to you. It's sick and I can't wait to do it more.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Why don't we go on the road? But enough about that. It's time to fancy. Man, this is so fun. I haven't done this in a while. I miss you guys. I love you so much. This is great. It really is. This always gets me in a good mood and I'm always so,
Starting point is 00:26:51 I don't know. I'm just happy. I'm real happy. This makes me real happy. So you heard me being sweet and you, you saw me on your block and you were like, I can't allow that. I can't allow that to happen.
Starting point is 00:26:59 That's what it was. That's what it was. Stay off my corner. Yeah. I also just thought about you guys doing sad. Just missed. I, if I would've,
Starting point is 00:27:04 I would've just been there. I would've just flown. It's been there. It was just, I don't know. It's so fun. Everything is so lovely, but yeah, stay off my corner. I also just thought about you guys doing... I just missed... I would have just been there. I would have just flown and been there. I don't know. It's so fun. Everything is so lovely. But yeah, stay off my block. Quit stirring my Kool-Aid. I'm the positive one.
Starting point is 00:27:12 You're the loud one. Jewish. You can say Jewish. David is the funny one. I didn't even know you were Jewish. Black. You can say black. This is how Sean sees the podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Yeah, I do with a funny guy and a witty guy. Yeah, you know, like a Mel Brooks and Richard Pryor kind of thing. He was one of those funny fraternities, you know. You know, the funny ones, They do the step dancing. He went to a historically funny university. He went to North Carolina A&T, historically funny university. You have to go and see our first funny president but it's
Starting point is 00:28:05 he'll know loud presidents that's okay it's a longer road it's a longer road oh i thought there was a loud there's been some drunk presidents right they've been uh we currently have a drunk president yeah i didn't know he was a drunk wow great there've been two dr currently have a drunk president yeah i didn't know he was a drunk wow great there've been two drunks yeah good for us yeah oh oh actually speaking of drunk presidents do you guys know the uh wait is it buchanan one of the no yeah i want to say buchanan someone right around the civil war time um after he left office and, you know, I think of Buchanan because he sort of set things up
Starting point is 00:28:50 in a bad way for the Civil War to take place. And then after he left office, he said, there is nothing left to do now but get drunk. And then he moved to Europe and drank himself to death, I want to say. Make sure that's true. You got to respect that he walked it like he talked to yeah he wasn't half stepping yeah he's like i'm looking it up uh let's see franklin pierce oh pierce i'm sorry yeah canon pierce yeah pier yeah. There's nothing left to do but get drunk. Twelve years later, he dies from cirrhosis of the liver.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Perfect. No doubt. Yeah. See us, June 22nd, saying there's nothing left to do but get drunk. At the Minneapolis show. So, oh, also another thing, I'm gonna go ahead and just sort of put my tent up on sean's block
Starting point is 00:29:46 actually ball blast nachos recently came out and i know nothing else about it because you said it before the show yeah they're mango so i didn't even buy them i so i lost one of maxine's stuffed animals at the grocery store yesterday and that is a huge deal i I guess. And so I forgot to buy the chips. I guess. Well, she was, I mean, it was a thing. But I forgot to buy the chips on the way out. So I'm going to go right after this and go get them. Because, yeah, because I want to try them. Baja Blast mango Doritos, bro.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Oh, with the shark on it. Oh, Doritos, not nachos. Okay, I see. Yeah, yeah. I have seen this in my local convenience store. Oh, dude. I cannot wait. I also went to Taco Bell the other day and got the aardvark situation.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Tops. I don't even know. Aardvark is doing a collab with Taco Bell? I've been at it. Brother, you've been gone for too long, my friend. Come back. Portland-based hot sauce company, aardvark? Yep. This is a celebration.
Starting point is 00:30:43 They collab with Taco Bell. Go get yourself go hit the streets with some of it go hit the streets get that diarrhea out of your yeah it's national i actually might have to oh fuck congratulations to aardvark man that's awesome i'm very stoked in a very real way that's a spicy sauce it is hella spicy yeah that's a hot hot sauce that's not one of those like you can't you can't put a lot of that on your hash browns, you know? You can. You can be a coward, but yeah, you can.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I wouldn't. I never knew that was Portland. That's awesome. Yeah, Artfall. And Marshall's Hot Sauce. Portland. On the map. Pretty big hot sauce place.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Sioux Falls got mentioned in SNL the other night by Please Don't Destroy in their sketch twice. In a flattering manner or what? I haven't seen it yet. In a sort of douchey small talk kind of manner. The beginning of the sketch was it just opened with Sarah Schaefer being like, yeah, so we're going to Sioux Falls this weekend. Never been. Always wanted to go. It's like a dinner party type thing.
Starting point is 00:31:39 So not flattering, but not unflattering. Anyway, just got mentioned. It's just some chuffa there. Chuffa. Yeah. Apples and apples and pears yeah or what is it what is it they have you saying so it looks like is it pears and carrots it's yeah it's peas and carrots right peas and carrots peas and carrots peas and carrots yeah apples and pears feels like cockney rhyming slang and probably for something inappropriate right right right she got she hit me the apples and pears, she did. The apples and pears, and I apologize for that
Starting point is 00:32:06 if it was, in fact, inappropriate. Well, damn, we were in the scene. Sean Jordan, I just noticed that your name on here is Isaac K. Lee.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Yeah, dude. I'm doing a lot of things. Since you guys went to Madison, I did a lot of things. I'm switching things up. I'm Isaac now. He's changed, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Isaac's in Korea and he's not coming back. Not coming back. You put him in a pine box and send him to Korea in a hell of a cell match. Yeah, but I loaded up. I put all of the Socranos on an iPad for him. So I was like, it'll get you to Korea.
Starting point is 00:32:36 An act of kindness. Not to speculate on the whereabouts of one Isaac K. Lee, but to fantasy draft outer space. Space shit. Space shit. Space shit, really? Yeah, space shit. We're drafting space shit. Now, the way we determine the order
Starting point is 00:32:51 of that draft is a rollicking game of rock, paper, scissors, and it's played between the three of you, and we throw on shoot. Here we go. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot! Oh, David wins an unnatural victory of paper against two scissors. David, as the winner of rock, paper, scissors, shoot. David wins an unnatural victory of paper against two scissors. David, as the winner of rock, paper, scissors,
Starting point is 00:33:08 it is incumbent upon you to determine the order of today's draft. What will that order be? Before you do that, I'm sorry. I need to remind you. I'm a little foggy. It's okay. You were out for three weeks. You got cheese in your blood.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I was straight up Treat Williams for two weeks, dude. Dana and I started in Montreal and we're getting bagels and chocolate babka. And then all the way through... What's that? Montreal. Montreal. We were in Montreal. I talked to my born in Belgium grandmother last night.
Starting point is 00:33:40 So native spent French speaker. And the way she said Montreal will blow your mind. I can't even... I can't even recreate it. Did she say it's Sioux Falls? and the way she said montreal will blow your mind i can't even i can't even recreate it say it sioux falls is that what she said she called everything sioux falls uh the hub of culture for the world but we were like treats everywhere and now so like today is the day after where i'm just like sitting here i imagine my blood sugar is just off the charts from just being straight up trey williams so i might say i have no idea what i'm saying at all this entire podcast i could i could say some
Starting point is 00:34:10 so you're gonna get into the five part of the side i think because you're just gonna make some shit up i get them all five dude yeah exactly we'll be talking about silver surfer and whatnot uh it's a serpentee draft show what is it if you lose your daughter's stuffed animal at Fred Meyer and you walk down every single row of the whole grocery store, sum it up real quick. You just go all the way down one, turn around at the end cap,
Starting point is 00:34:32 all the way down the other, turn around at the end cap, all the way down to the other. So you don't find it. I asked customer service twice if they found a little purple stuffed animal. She shut me down both times. I'm going to go right after this and ask again.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I'm a mess. That's what it is. This seems ripped from the headlines. what what kind of stuffed animal is it's a time i think it was a beanie baby it was given it was passed down uh from one of laura's friends kids used to have anyway it was like passed down and the jojo fairy which is the the fairy that comes and takes your pacifiers so you don't need them anymore. The Jojo fairy replaced one of her pacifiers with this stuffed animal. And I fucking lost it.
Starting point is 00:35:10 And I feel... I almost cried in the grocery store yesterday. I was almost like... Does that mean she gets a pacifier back? No. God, no. Seems to me like it does me back. You can't go backwards, baby.
Starting point is 00:35:20 You gotta let's play the game. No. Raising a kid's like Mario Brothers, baby. No going backwards. You gotta... Straightforward raising kids like Mario Brothers, baby. No going backwards. You got to. Straightforward. I don't know, man. I might be like that Mario game on N64 where you can go all over the place.
Starting point is 00:35:32 No. Yeah, you can't go backwards. Don't tell me that, man. I got tunnel vision. Straightforward. Eyes on the WNBA. I just feel like any court in the land would say because of this, she does get her pacifier back because you were unable to withhold your side of the bargain.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I got Ivan Carmel. Shut the fuck up. Ivan Carmel never gave a pacifier back, I'll tell you that. Hell no, dude. No, she doesn't get her pacifier back. I put it too high up on the wall for her to get. So if she gets that vertical up, she can get it back.
Starting point is 00:36:03 You kept it, though? No, I still have one. Yeah, I wouldn't throw them both away. I have one just for me. Well, he still uses his pacifier. Yeah, I go to raves. I go to raves, and you don't want to chew your teeth off. So I put the pacifier in there.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I don't want to grind them down to gums. Basically, what it means is you pick fourth in the first round, you pick first in the second round, and Sean's not a bad father. Babies lose things. I lost it, I think. I lost it on the security card when he couldn't find it. I beat his fucking ass.
Starting point is 00:36:31 It was a bloody pulp. This isn't quickly replaceable via Amazon? This was a hard to find? It'll get replaced. It's more of a self... It's a self thing. I'm just like, you lost... I don't know. It just cut me so deep, and I'm like, this doesn't matter. What happens when she gets bullied or something i don't know it's it's a whole anyway you should get some turquoise jewelry instead dude some fighting lessons yeah there's paekwon
Starting point is 00:36:53 do lessons and some turquoise jewelry send her to nobody nobody ever bullied somebody a child enrolled in those two things should i get her nobody ever saw those two behaviors exhibited and was like i'm gonna leave that person alone the second the second the tough kids found out you were in taekwondo it was it was on they were just like oh you're a black but i remember all the tough kids finding out individually and then just taking their taking their bite and i'm like yeah well you also had your name on your jacket. In cursive with a tiger on the back. Mr. Sean. Mr. Sean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Mr. Sean. This is like a satin, this is a Gosling and Drive kind of jacket. It was a coach. Yeah, almost. It was like a coach's jacket in between that and a coach's jacket, if that's making any sense.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And it had Mr. Sean stitched in cursive over the left breast. And then on the back, on the back was a giant open mouth growling tiger. And it said Sioux Falls Black Belt School. And I wore that to elementary school every day. And yeah, it was like, what are these kids bullying me for?
Starting point is 00:37:58 How could you not wear that? Yes, two things are true right now. A, I can see how everybody who was prone to beating asses wanted to beat your ass because of it and the other thing is that sounds sick yeah it does sound right yeah yeah as a grown man you know what's wild they had to know they were giving these to kids sending them out into the wilderness that's the first lesson here's what okay here's what i haven't thought about until honestly just now i was i was in there with plenty of adults this was a taekwondo school wide thing so everyone had these jackets so like there were 40 year olds that had those you know mr jason mr rick yeah but you think they were wearing them to work at the
Starting point is 00:38:36 plant i do i do i think they were wearing i really do processing isn't that the big business of sioux falls meat processing morels baby yeah the big business in Sioux Falls? Meat processing? Morales, baby. Yeah. The meat processing plant. God, dude. Cause that would bring out those terrible adult bullies. Like the guys who are just like that forever. Yeah. Those are bad guys. I still know there's, I've told this before. There's still a couple who want to kill me in Sioux Falls. And one of them I see sometimes, and he's still forever will scare him. He's terrifying. And even now that I like, I don't even know, I might even be able to handle him now.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Maybe, if maybe, that might be a stretch, but he's still just so scary. He'll just, he looks terrifying, dead-eyed. Do you think it's because you knew him as a kid? Like if we met him, would we be like, oh, that guy's really scary? Or we'd be like, well well who's that dead eyed guy he's huge so I think you would be he I think
Starting point is 00:39:30 you'd be a little I think you'd keep your head up if you were around him yeah what's his name you should say his name no no man absolutely not that's how scared I am no way wow even if it kind of got back to him
Starting point is 00:39:44 I'll say this he's the one that made me try to kiss his shoe one time and i said no and he's like good i was gonna kick your teeth out this is what he said to my 11 year old or no 12 year old face he said that well let's be honest he probably had it pretty bad at home yeah i don't think it was a good thing yeah no i you learned that from somewhere right you ever meet a bully who didn't have it bad at home, though? Yeah. And you're like, this kid is just a psycho. I was one of those.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah. Yeah. Always has good treats. I was. I was a dick for no reason. I had a great home life. Dressed really well. Parents love him.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah. He just wants to get the shit out of you. You came from a broken home. I mean, barely. There were ones where we didn't came from a broken home they were there were ones like didn't come from a broken home yeah i remember this you know this is dark you're not no shit on your mother your mother's wonderful but like there were people who had like two stable parents and all sorts of fruit snacks at home and we're still out there pushing people's faces in the mud let me throw this at you i know plenty of people with like two quote unquote like a quote home life who i'm like whoa that was way more messed up than my single mom life for sure their parents were i mean one
Starting point is 00:40:50 of my buddy's dads kicked their dog down the stairs and i and from the outside looking in you're like whoa what a cookie cutter family they're rich and like and you hear that shit and you're like man all right i'm fine growing up in apartments. What was the dog saying? What was the dog saying? Like what? It was just over which lethal weapon they wanted to watch. Tell me the 15 minutes leading up to it. Not just the moment it happened. Tell a story, you know?
Starting point is 00:41:15 Yeah, what was the dog wearing? Basically, if you pick first and the... Right? If you pick last and the second. I don't want to do it. You do it. You do it, Spacey. What are you doing? Whoa, not Spacey. You're not Spacey.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Basically, if you pick last in the first round, you pick first in the second round. That's right. Yeah, I know. With that in mind, what would the order be, David? Okay, I'm going to say Andy first. Oh, no. Me second. Sean third.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Ian fourth. Back on the hot corner it's always tough when the smartest one goes first I always feel like it's great when the smartest one no he's gotta set the tone we need
Starting point is 00:41:51 we need a leader here absolutely which means Andy you have the first pick in the space shit aka outer space depending on where
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Starting point is 00:47:07 nowhere near the northern part of the country i have never seen the northern lights in my life i even knew this solar storm which was going to cause the northern lights had happened i know look at that oh you got a picture it's right right outside my house baby damn you didn't even have to go. I'm so jealous. So I missed it. I was doing a thing that didn't get out until 10 o'clock, and I was like, well, okay, I missed it,
Starting point is 00:47:32 but I had this obligation. So it's not, oh, well, what can you do? Then I went home, and then I proceeded to play Dr. Mario with my buddy who was visiting. Andy! While I could have just stepped outside because it turned out 11 o'clock to one o'clock is when it kicked off. We played Dr. Mario for two hours, then went outside at
Starting point is 00:47:49 one o'clock just, just to go outside. Not because, and there was nothing going on. And I, then I saw the pictures the next day. And this felt like, did you guys have read that book all summer in a day? I think it's a Ray Bradbury short story that made you read in like sixth grade about this planet where the sun only comes out for one hour every seven years. And so that hour is coming and the bullies lock this girl up in a closet in the school while they all go outside and see the sun. And she misses the one hour of sun every seven years. I don't want to read that. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:48:17 That's worse than the bully stories I just told. And I'm not kidding. I am so mad. And I'm not kidding. Like I get chill. Like I am so mad. I will regret for the rest of my life missing that. I could have seen the Northern lights from my house in Joshua tree. That will never again happen in my life.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Maybe it will another 20 or 30 years with a freak solar storm. But, um, it's the pictures are making me so jealous. And my, my girlfriend's trying to tell me like, so, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:38 people were saying you had to do like 30 second exposures to get, it didn't look that good. You did. I will say that I, I did like i looked up and it looked like pink there would look like there was a gas leak at a chemical plant in with kind of like in the distance i'd you couldn't see the green clouds right yeah you kind of couldn't see the green you could tell it was dope you just couldn't see the green so you're you're
Starting point is 00:49:00 all right no i'm i'm i really would have been excited also because i grew up in michigan and we would vacation in Ontario a lot, which is far enough north that sometimes you would get that. And I never saw it. And lots of mornings, my brothers and I would wake up and my dad would say, oh yeah, I was out on the porch last night looking at the stars. And yeah, Southern Northern Lights just didn't want to like wake you guys up. And to this day, we don't know if that was a bit and he'd never saw them or if he really
Starting point is 00:49:23 was being a dick. If it's a bit, it's extra funny because it's a bit for no one but himself it wasn't like right my dad had this joke between them it's just my dad doing it and then never dads do that there was a my dad used to we used to go fishing all the time and anytime we would drive i think it was on right up a highway 30 he would point to this clutch of trees and he'd be like you know that's lake ian in there right in there that's like ian and we would drive by from the from the earliest time i had memory up until i was about 16 two or three times a year we'd drive by and he'd be like that's like ian and then we were driving by with my friend in the car and i was like there's a lake
Starting point is 00:49:59 in there called like ian and my dad was like, there's no, there's no Ian. That's so Sean, are you going to get on the, on board this? Yeah. You got to find a way. Jokes for only you. Like I've been doing,
Starting point is 00:50:15 I mean, I've been doing poop, like she'll wake up and I'm like, what do you want? You want, what do you want? Poop for breakfast? She'll just be like,
Starting point is 00:50:20 no. And Laura's like, she's going to be the kid that makes poop jokes way too early. And people are going to of her and i'm like i don't know what to tell you i'm coming from a person who devoted his life to stand-up comedy is there a way too early no no she said she's gonna be the funniest kid in school is all i'm hearing yeah yeah she's gonna be awesome such advanced poop jokes for her age it's gonna be wild you're gonna have to get a jacket that says mr max i uh can we go to the dr mario thing andy are you a good dr mario player i'm pretty i surprised my friend who is 15 years
Starting point is 00:50:52 younger than i because before that we were playing whatever the new star wars re report that just came out battleground or something okay uh yeah so kind of like you know not exactly first person shooter but something like that and the controls are just a little skatey i just looked like an old man playing against him and then suddenly uh he says well look they got all these other games from every other platform on whatever console he had a switch um i'm like well can we fire up some dr mario and he was shocked at at my dominance i was like yeah you got to respect that i'm really good at mario's why i bring it up yeah i'd love. I'd love to play you sometime. Yeah, I'd love to see the team.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Sean is Sean. Now I'm the best Dr. Mario player you've ever talked to. I'll tell you that. I'm not going to say that I'm full confidence. You consider you were the best in the world at one point. I really so I wrote I broke the record. It just wasn't documented. So you're going to have to take my word for that.
Starting point is 00:51:44 But I went to the Twin Galaxies website and then I emailed them and I was like, how do you get this record? At the time, it needed to be one VHS tape and you could only take the most 30 second breaks and you had to leave it playing the whole time. And the one time I beat it, it took me like six hours. So I was like,
Starting point is 00:51:59 I don't want to do it again. So tech, I did score higher than the documented high score, but I never recorded it. So, and you got to buy an American flag tie. Obviously. I'm going like you're a legend. You're like that guy.
Starting point is 00:52:16 They say better than Jordan who didn't get that break. Yeah. You're Earl Manigault. I have really his name. Good job. I have loose plans on going to the world championships in Cleveland in Columbus in November
Starting point is 00:52:30 I'm like looking at it so anyway how often I know not to totally tangent it but like are you keeping up the chops are you playing often there's a retro gaming bar in Portland that has the old school Dr. Murray with the old controllers so when I want to start getting back to my fight and wait I'll go there and practice which retro gaming bar in Portland that has the old school Dr. Murray with the old controllers. So when I want to start getting back to my fight and wait,
Starting point is 00:52:46 I'll go there and practice. Which retro gaming bar? It's up on MLK. It's just called the retro gaming bar. I think it's on retro gaming bar. Okay. It's on MLK. There's,
Starting point is 00:52:54 Oh, I just didn't want to say the name. Yeah. Yeah. You want to do a retro gaming bar? Andy would, I thought you were like not bringing up ground control and you're like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:53:04 you wouldn't know that. There's a donut shop by. I kind of got some ice cream over there. Never heard. Yeah, man. I woke up Laura to go see the Northern Lights. When are they? So I had to Google this.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I'm not going to pretend that I know things like that off the top of my head. But why does that? Yeah. So then it causes uh you know stream of of particles because i was like how do we know intuitively you would think like whatever that is it travels at the speed of light so by the time we know about it it's hitting us but we knew like two days before it was going to hit us so we saw these things happening on the sun we as if i was looking through a sun telescope uh but but yeah so it sends um particles uh believe
Starting point is 00:53:47 chachi pati was telling me electrons and protons and then those uh charged particles are like captured by earth's magnetic field and that's why they're sort of gathering at the north and southern poles and then i think it's kind of similar to how neon lights and fluorescent lights work, where the gas gets excited and the electrons jump up to a higher energy level. And as they drop back down again in that process, they emit light. And it's the same with neon lights and argon lights. All these different kinds of lamps have different colors depending on which gas it is. The different colors you see are from the different like nitrogen and oxygen which make up air they they emit different colors of light when this happens and also depending on the actual like altitude it's a different i guess like the greens
Starting point is 00:54:35 are lower altitude oxygen the reds are higher higher right i was gonna say that yeah but again i had to chat GPT this I'm not saying I knew this off the top of my head you did a great job of explaining that the southern lights I heard you say southern too are there southern lights or am I an asshole Aurora Australis yeah it happens at both of the poles so my friend
Starting point is 00:54:58 actually proposed to his girlfriend under the southern lights he was down in Australia like that's the best proposal story and the best proposal pictures of all time yeah well and so you said you'll never see him you just go to alaska and see him right they happen up there all the time right it's different the fact that the fact that it was at this this far south that i could see that is my house it's that might never happen again and i'm legitimately i'm not just saying this to be funny on a podcast because it's not that funny. It's sad.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Like I'm bummed about it. I'm still getting over the fact that I was just playing Dr. Mario. We could have walked 10 feet and been like, well, that's a once in a lifetime thing. That is crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:35 I can't make you feel better about that. You blew it. I don't know what to tell you. They say that the last one was 2003 that we had like a solar storm like that, right? So maybe another 20 years yeah who knows who knows where we are in 20 years man like yeah let's not get on that you're
Starting point is 00:55:50 gonna be in a bigger house more of the desert is all gonna happen in a more joshua part of the tree you might have a couple more guitars on the wall i see big things you won't be fighting for water yeah no no no no no no the water wars will be over by then we will find new water good guys one yeah uh david time for your first pick uh come on hit me baby i'm taking i've said it on this podcast and it's always a point of contention between me and ian i'm taking the vastness of space yeah the literal the size of it that it's always expanding i talk about it a lot i do find it comforting i think that if we're amidst this thing that is so big and ever expanding yeah it doesn't really matter that much if i shit my pants and madison was gone you know what i'm
Starting point is 00:56:39 saying i take that to feel like were you saying that out loud when you're walking down the street I take that to feel like... Were you saying that out loud when you were walking down the street? Yeah, I was like, well, you know, space never stops. The place I shit my pants is different than where I shit my pants now because the solar system is flying through space. But I just like the idea of a cognitive machine, man. It's just like the vastness of it, the size of it, to me is like... I'm like thank god thank thank god whatever the
Starting point is 00:57:08 size of the world that i've created that i live in is not what it is you know what i mean it's like i really really appreciate it i've made my feelings on the terror very well i can't go my vision i'm like i got blurry vision right now can, I can feel myself turtling up. It's, I love that. It's so big. It's, it's so big.
Starting point is 00:57:29 You relax. It's huge. That's how I feel. If you try to make yourself feel the, like, I can still conjure the feeling that I had when I was younger, when I would think about how big it is, which is like a coldness starts to grow in your chest.
Starting point is 00:57:42 When you actually conceive of just how like what does it mean to be infinitely big or is it even infinitely big maybe there is a limit what is that what's what's at the edge of the limit of our understanding because no you just you can't so that's why i start to freeze i get the blue screen or whatever it's the same feeling i get when like you see a picture of like someone in the water and there's a whale in there with them, you know what I mean? Oh, yes. That is such a good way to put it. I know that feeling. I feel that when you meditate,
Starting point is 00:58:12 you're supposed to start with the warm ball in your chest. And then that's how I feel. I feel the opposite. It's warm, not cold. I wish you could just teach that to me. I feel like it would help on the daily. I don't know if it's a gift or anything yeah i think it's probably neutral somewhere but yeah i love it almost
Starting point is 00:58:33 like a nihilism like a healthy nihilism or something when you just give yourself over to it you're like well i think that's a lot and i think that's a lot more where i think that's a lot more where it lies if we're gonna be honest be honest. But that being said, yeah, I do. Because I was thinking about it. You always talk about that sleepover. I had a sleepover that's one time with a guy. I can say his name. He would like me to tell this story.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Sam Talent was there. It was me, Sam Talent, and Clay DeHaan. Elizabeth Colorado's biggest tight end ever, right? Wasn't that guy like a star tight end, big tight end catching the ball a lot. I don't even know what you're saying. He tried to, he told us.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. He told us on here. We were like, what?
Starting point is 00:59:20 Yeah. He was catching the ball a lot when we were playing. I mean, he does. He has good hands, but not in a game. That's not the point. We were all having a sleepover one night, and it was like ninth grade, and we were talking about God. And our friend Clay DeHaan was like, God's not real. And we were like, okay, Clay.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And he was like, yeah, right, dude. That guy's not real. And we were like, what? And he was like, if he dude that guy's not real and we were like what and he was like he was like if he's real why doesn't he show himself to me and we were like clay and he was like come out you coward and he just denounced god was this thomas aquinas at this no it was dude it was it was one of the craziest things i've ever seen and then we were like clay you gotta relax and he was like it's his move and uh like lieutenant i didn't get upset i just went to sleep like i guess that's something i don't have to worry about yeah like you know what i mean like he did all this blasphemy and nothing happened and i was just like oh okay i was a little junior
Starting point is 01:00:20 check one less box yeah but that's how i feel about the space thing like all right not my thing did you grow up pretty well did you like was god a certainty for you uh it it was a very because my grandpa was a pastor right like but he turned late in life, it was, I would say that I was grown up as it was a certainty, but it also wasn't questioned very much. So there wasn't like a lot of like pushback. And then when I did get to a point where I had pushback, it was, I was sort of able to be like, oh, I don't, this is not for me. Yeah. But I but i i i grew up with a respect for religion and what it can do for people and all the good that it can do and stuff like that because we like you know my mom started a non-profit for sierra leone that was christian
Starting point is 01:01:16 so we would go to churches and talk and take formations and shit like that so i always like had a fondness for like religion but no i never had like i never really right i wasn't i wasn't like god has to be real and then clay to han called it out and i was like huh it's like the space thing where it's just like oh okay maybe that's something i don't have to worry about i i can't do anything about that i know where you're going because i and that's the only way i can calm myself down is like wow just stop you can't figure it out every time not like i try but when i when i when the gears get turning i just remind myself like you know but also like in a jam when something feels really big to me also is like comforting to be like well this shit's whatever man right right
Starting point is 01:01:58 ultimately it's a blip on everything all of it is a blip on everything that doesn't make me feel bad it just makes me be like okay i should probably just enjoy all this right but then you don't like pay taxes and stuff it's like yeah yeah that's a bummer that's that's the bummer about it it's like uh i wish that i could live in that where i'm like yeah complete like nile you know what i mean i wish i could live in, like, the universe is expanding. I'm not paying my taxes. I mean, you know, I think I've not paid taxes more than most. As far as, like, having a pretty big stretch of not letting that. Yeah, I think I got pretty lucky.
Starting point is 01:02:38 All the societal type stuff, I've had a... I didn't have legal ID forever. Like, I've been able to... I've only been on two leases in my entire life. One of them is a mortgage. Whoa. It's insane. Wow.
Starting point is 01:02:51 That was a really real. It's insane. Well, let's hear about your next pick. Maybe that'll be insane too. Sean black holes, bro. Nice all day. I mean, they're real, real right it's confirmed or they just are they fine they're real so it's a real it's a real thing that we we have no idea what
Starting point is 01:03:13 we just know light can't escape but we have no idea what happens when you go in because there's no way to document that right yeah we've never have we ever successfully sent anything into a black hole like a satellite or anything? No. Light can't even escape them. But I mean, like going in. We just sent something in. Like something in, so like Twister style, like we can document it up until it gets destroyed. You know, like it'll have live info coming at us until we can't.
Starting point is 01:03:37 We've never done that. The farthest away thing that is man-made is either Voy voyager one or two that we sent you know in like the late 70s and that thing is still probably only god now i'm just gonna make up a number i don't know if it's billions or trillions of miles but like it's still nowhere even near the next star besides our sun you know it would be let alone a black like yeah we would do you think the voyager ran out of smokes by now i imagine in the 70s voyager was smoking just like all the scientists that made it is this like a bad dad like it's not coming back there's no bowling alleys out here
Starting point is 01:04:15 playing nine ball freaking wearing a looney tunes leather jacket like yeah i'm out here i'm out here i don't need her i don't need anyone in life i just need my cute yeah that's fortified wine out of a leather jacket so the the closest black hole is if i'm hearing is like billions of i mean right between your legs bro not even a lot of stuff gets out of there i'll tell you what yeah uh well i mean I think there's... I forgot if this is a theory, hypothesis, or a thing people agree that maybe the middle of the Milky Way has one and that accounts for all the gravity that keeps the galaxy together.
Starting point is 01:04:54 But even that would be so far... I think there are theories that there might be other ones in our galaxy. But the scale, even within this galaxy, the closest star to us after the sun is no centauri 907 or something alpha centauri i think is about four light years so like if you were going the speed of light it would take four years and um you know voyager is going voyager is going probably a thousandth of the speed of light so you know like four thousand years or something to get yeah so and and i'm sorry like there's no way there's a black hole anywhere
Starting point is 01:05:25 near that distance i love i love that real quick you just go and i'm sorry but there's just no way i'm trying to be a dick here what i'm saying there's no way no i just it's the idea of it like the idea that in my mind up here that's how we time travel i'm never not until someone says that's not true i'm never not going to believe it so that's how we do it could something crazy could happen when you go in there like i don't understand untie your belly button anything oh no like oh my god dimensional flying out like oh no that makes me feel the way space makes me feel that's crazy to be like all right i'm just gonna untie like why don't they just do surgery like that untie your belly button real quick stretch yeah i don't know don't they do that sometimes for
Starting point is 01:06:05 don't they for some abdominal things don't they go in around the belly button i think if you owe money to the wrong cartel they might do that i don't know if like to lower scarring right yeah anyway black holes man just that you know we got the sound garden song out of it which is tight and then a lot of you know a lot of fun theories theorized by albert einstein first is that true he was the first what makes you what makes you think of that what what made albert einstein be like oh there's a that's a this is a black hole like we couldn't how do you get that idea i think actually it might have started with i think the way he came up with relativity so you know what gravity does we don't gravity is super mysterious but like everything that has mass
Starting point is 01:06:53 exerts you know i just got that feeling again i've never got it thinking about gravity and you just gave it to me somehow you just said i was like wait gravity in my in my mind i'm like there's a big magnet in the in the world holding this all down here what are you talking about can we name the feeling the great how come oh yeah yeah how come no well why though but so so gravity warps the theory is that it actually warps space-time like i don't have you seen someone do like analogy with a trampoline that you put a bowling ball on and then you can like roll marbles at it it'll orbit that bowling ball like it just it warps space-time so the more mass you have the more it warps it and the sun uh warps it enough that i think einstein observed that the orbit of mercury doesn't quite make sense like it doesn't go kind of right it's not just the shape of it it's the fact that um
Starting point is 01:07:41 god i forgot how to phrase this, but the timing doesn't work unless you accept that at that distance from the sun, space-time itself is stretched. So I think that led to a lot of his other theories about relativity and black holes. Because yeah, black hole is the ultimate of that. If something's massive enough, it sucks everything in and not even light can escape. And then I had a mind-blowing thing with, I forgot what guest, maybe Nodagast Tyson,
Starting point is 01:08:10 who was on our podcast. I wrote a song about that. Well, like, because there's the event horizon, which is if you're looking at in the distance and you saw this black circle, that line is the event horizon where that's the line past
Starting point is 01:08:22 which nothing will ever escape. Light won't escape. So that has some actual size to it. And then I asked some guests of ours, well, how big is, because, you know, it was a star that got collapsed more and more and more. So it is something that has tons of mass. How big is the actual like nut in the middle of the black hole? How big is the, is it like a boulder that is, you know, all the mass of a hundred suns
Starting point is 01:08:44 or something? And then they're like, no, there's nothing. There's the event horizon, but there's nothing in the middle. It's just an infinite point. It's zero size, infinite mass or infinite density, huge mass, infinite density, zero size. It's dividing by zero. It's the universe dividing by zero. It just throws everything.
Starting point is 01:09:02 It makes no sense. And you talk about this every week and you're as normal looking as you are i wouldn't man this is this is killing me yeah black no you're picking good black holes well yeah for me i'm like yeah but i could like go back and like ask that girl out or whatever so yeah maybe you don't know what happens yeah i'm gonna find out maybe you're a good skateboarder inside a black hole got you damn he did i don't know what to say let's go let's keep it pushing your ass yeah let's hear your story i'll stop slowing us down yeah let's hear your stupid exactly that is exactly the point of this podcast yeah to go slow my i'm taking my first pick this is a this is some putting respect on something
Starting point is 01:09:46 first pick I'm taking it this early for a reason not maybe because I think it's going to go but because I want some respect on this pick I'm taking Pluto we still love you is Pluto the one that doesn't count anymore? I don't know why I said ah maybe because it's small
Starting point is 01:10:01 it's a dwarf planet yeah it's tiny it was the ninth planet and then it wasn't the ninth planet I said, ah, maybe because it's small. It's a dwarf planet. Yeah. It's tiny. It was the ninth planet and then it wasn't the ninth planet and then it is the ninth planet again and then it wasn't. So where are we on Pluto currently? I think it can't be because
Starting point is 01:10:17 of size and erraticness of its orbit. I think is the reason. It turned out to be smaller than we thought once we sent that probe there 10 years ago. I have to say, you say the erraticness. It's not like zigging and zagging. I mean, it's got a fluid. Does it move?
Starting point is 01:10:33 Can you explain that a little bit, what you mean? I think its orbit, I think almost all orbits are, I don't think any orbit's a perfect circle. I think they're mostly ellipses or all ellipses, so kind of ovals. But i think its orbit is so irregular that maybe at times it's even closer to the sun than neptune or something i is that what you're finding i'm yeah interesting um why pluto it's elliptical and tilted. Oh, okay. Sideways oval, bro.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Like those cool hats. It's a 248-year oval-shaped orbit. So it can take it as far as... It's a year as 248. Yeah, it's a 248-year year. And it can take it as far as 49.3 AUs from the sun, and it's close to 30. 30? What?
Starting point is 01:11:25 That number meant something, Andy. Well, I'm just saying it can be eight times as far away from the sun as the difference between you said 239 and 30? 49 and 30. Oh, they said 249 and 30.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Okay, 49.3 and 30. Andy reacted to that the way that I would react if I got like six extra nuggets in, like if I ordered, I was like, whoa, are you kidding me? But still, it's like if the orbit is sometimes 100 feet and sometimes 200 feet away, it's a pretty wild, and AU is just the distance between, average distance between the Earth and the sun,
Starting point is 01:12:02 which is a good, useful like. So Pluto's not a planet now? It is. I think it's not. It's not considered. I think we have eight planets in Pluto. It has moons. It has its own moons. It has five moons. How are you not a planet? You got moons, dude. I'm saying there's plenty of non-planets
Starting point is 01:12:18 that have moons, dude. You can get moons. I can get you a moon. Do any of the moons have a blue moon? That's a question. Ooh, moons are blue. Probably for Andy. A meta moon? So, yes. I don't think so, but I think there are some moons that are close-ish in size to Earth. There are definitely moons that are bigger than Pluto.
Starting point is 01:12:38 I think some of Jupiter's or Saturn's moons. Yeah. Maybe Titan or Io or something could be. I'm not sure none of the moons have their own moons but yeah i think like jupiter i'll go and do this with my next pick i'm taking jupiter i'm taking the smallest non-planet and i'm taking the biggest planet okay the loud i get it i'm going i'm taking the planet that girls go to to get more stupider.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Sure. A planet so big that the other seven planets in the solar system could fit inside of it and still leave 30% of the planet unoccupied. Yeah, dude. I mean, can you imagine if it was impossible to go around your whole planet like if you wanted to you could visit everywhere pretty much everywhere on earth like you could go to every region or whatever but like jupiter no way bro you can't you couldn't be able to do it and you can't even set foot on it it's just gas it's gas and it has a storm on it yeah that storm i was gonna gas storm it is jupiter's 308 times bigger than earth
Starting point is 01:13:52 jesus 308 times it's massive yeah and it is it so when you say a gas planet is the gas ever compacted enough inside of it yeah is there like a surface to set on there's no surface to yeah i've i've definitely like looked this up um i i don't think weird things happen as you go deeper into it but i don't think it's ever like now we're finally on the you know there there's no nugget in the middle or something yeah but i forgot exactly what the composition is and what we think would happen if you sort of like quote unquote landed on jupiter descended through all that it would be a mess it wouldn't it wouldn't go well take a minute to get through it you probably die a natural death before you got through it so yeah just to say it has 95 moons but also isn't that
Starting point is 01:14:40 number like changing by the any of them like? Are those all solids or those all gaseous too? I think those are rock. Some of those are rocky. Yeah. Some of them are rocky, it says. Can I be a scientist? Are the solids or the gaseous? You're doing it, Sean.
Starting point is 01:14:56 There are 95. I'm reading just now off of Wikipedia. There are 95 moons in Jupiter with confirmed orbits as of February 5th, 2024. And that number does not include a number of meter-sized moonlets thought to be shed from the inner moons, nor hundreds of possible kilometer-sized outer irregular moons that were only briefly captured by telescopes.
Starting point is 01:15:18 That's crazy. Have you guys looked through a decent telescope at Jupiter? Okay, Andy, let me ask you if you think this is real or not. I was outside of UCB Franklin one time and there's this dude who had a telescope and he's like, come here, bro. Write it Saturn, this thing's aimed. I'm not
Starting point is 01:15:34 going to describe Saturn at all for fear of naming pics. But he goes, this thing's right aimed at Saturn. Come check it out. I looked and I saw what appears to be Saturn. Yeah, I looked and then he robbed me. I looked down and I saw what I thought was Saturn. And then I went into UCB and everyone's like, oh, that guy's always out there. And they tried to tell me it was a sticker of Saturn that he put on the end of the telescope.
Starting point is 01:15:54 This is so I have done. You've probably seen the guy. All of you probably have. What I'm going to say is. I'm not looking into foreign scopes on the street i feel i filled in as a stargazing guide at a corporate event for skywatcher the company that's that's giving lending their expertise in telescopes to our 229 and beyond event and um it was a night when the jupiter and saturn were both visible and they said here's what people are going to ask you they're going to ask you two things how much does the telescope cost and is that a sticker when they see saturn
Starting point is 01:16:25 they're gonna say is that a sticker on the end of the telescope and sure enough everyone asks that because it looks so people can't believe you're seeing these rings it just looks too good to be true you probably did it was it was insane it did look who told you who told you it was a sticker on the end of a telescope all the drunk stone comedians that were in UCB. I don't know why I would have believed them, but, you know, because it does seem crazy. It seems like that, though, because it looks too good to be true
Starting point is 01:16:50 through a good telescope. Also, Franklin Village is a nice enough place where some person with a house might have just a $2,000 telescope sitting on the street. Who knows? I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:00 How much do you have to start spending on a telescope before you get one that can give you the sticker that's a telescope? And I want that can give you the stickers and telescope? And I want to get into the telescope game at some point. I think I do. I really think I do. I haven't. I've been thinking about it.
Starting point is 01:17:11 And I'm like, do I want to have one that I don't care if someone messes with? You know, do I have once? I'm not a big fan of spending money on things where you then going to have a stressor in your life because now I've got an expensive piece of equipment that I have to think about. life because now i've got an expensive piece of equipment that i have to think about but i think yeah if you spend like three grand you can get something really nice that will like track as the earth rotates you know it'll slowly move so it stays locked on whatever you're looking at and once you calibrate it you can just type into a keypad uh okay go to um arcturus and it'll go uh so that's like i I think 3000 to 5000, but I think for,
Starting point is 01:17:46 you know, 500 to 1000, you can get something that you, it will, Saturn and Jupiter will look cool through it, but like, it's just going to be, you have to manually line it up,
Starting point is 01:17:55 which is pretty hard sometimes. And then it'll be in the viewfinder for like 30 seconds. Then the rotation of the earth will have it out. So you got to just keep moving it. So, so like if I get a 150 telescope at fries that's not what is that just like a big set of binoculars well 150 telescope plus however much a saturn sticker costs and then all the tip money i make standing on standing on hollywood
Starting point is 01:18:16 boulevard like you guys want to see some real stars and then i just that's that what he said to you no god i would have tipped him then. But he was asking for tip money. That's another thing where I'm like, huh? Because who's got that dope of a telescope but wants his busking or whatever? The telescope was three grand. He's got to get that back.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Yeah, you got to make that back. I don't think you'd buy a telescope planning to recoup your expenses from passersby trying to look at a sticker. I mean, you wouldn't. It's called business mind. I don't have any vision. You're right.
Starting point is 01:18:46 You're right. I like that. Galamid is the biggest moon of Jupiter. Is it bigger than Earth? How big is it? It is not Jupiter.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Andy was on Jupiter for a while. Jerpeter. He won like six of them. How many did you win? One for lost two. So bad. Ganymede is 2.4 times smaller than Earth. Oh.
Starting point is 01:19:20 But larger than Mercury. So bigger than a planet. Shattered to Jupiter, dude. So I get all Jupiter's moons too. So, you know, don't fuck with my team So bigger than a planet. That is a Jupiter, dude. So I get all Jupiter's moons, too. So, you know, don't fuck with my team. Sean, time for your second pick. Well, it's going to get sucked into your black hole. You don't have to believe me.
Starting point is 01:19:35 I was going to pick... Tell me if I can't do this, I can't. Because I know what you just picked. I was going to specifically pick the storm on Jupiter. Now, if you pick Jupiter, do you get the... You don't get the fucking storm, brother. What the hell are you talking about? Can we talk pick the storm on jupiter now if you pick jupiter do you get you don't get the fucking storm what the hell we didn't then can we talk about the storm just a little bit because it's i would love to talk about this it's 10 000 miles big so you can fit uh earth in the storm which if you look because i was just looking it up last night and
Starting point is 01:19:59 that has always been like one of the most fascinating things to me is that it's just been going on forever and it can't they just they just don't know what it's just a crazy violent storm all the time and it doesn't move right it's kind of like your feud with the blood it's like i'm down there rapping dude it's like i've been on jupiter rapping for oh so my album came out on spotify yesterday and they put it on the wrong sean jordan Did I show you guys a picture of the Sean Jordan? They, they gave it to no, he, he, I was listening to the songs.
Starting point is 01:20:30 He brings up entourage in within 15 seconds of his first song. So everyone wouldn't believe that. It's actually, he makes music about entourage. This dude, that guy, that's where girl dead. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Like Spotify gave it to the wrong rapper, baby. In that picture I saw, I can't make out the face. When you're looking at your phone, can you see the face of that Sean Jordan or is it as dark as it looks? You can. Yes. That'd be funny if it was just dark in his face so it could be any
Starting point is 01:20:59 Sean Jordan. No, it definitely ain't me. Anyway, the storm on Jupiter, man. It's just... Wait. Is it the Sean... I'm sorry. I looked it up now. I have to ask you. Is it the rapper Sean Jordan better known by his stage name Word
Starting point is 01:21:16 Burglar? No, that's a Canadian alternative hip-hop artist from Halifax, Nova Scotia? I've had people ask me. A Nova Scotian rapper named Word Burglar? I look more like that dude than I do this Sean Jordan, the guy whose first song is called IG featuring Ivan. Ivan Rommel?
Starting point is 01:21:35 I couldn't see you a different reality where you show up on stage in a backpack with a beanie on called the Word Burglar. The Word Burglar. And you kind of stalk around? The people that have asked me that, I'm like, you're not out of line at all for thinking that I could try that. Anyway, that storm is just...
Starting point is 01:21:50 Yeah, but also word burglar is like the nickname you got from the bullies who were giving you a swirly. Hey, Mr. Sean, get over here, Mr. Sean, the word burglar. SJ the word burglar? Dude, he has a Wikipedia page, a pretty big one. And I do not. So good job. job good job the other sean he's based in toronto should we get him on the toronto whoa oh my god that would be that would be intense that would be crazy i mean it's with what music out in 2022 burgan reaching out
Starting point is 01:22:20 burganometry what'd you say burganomic bergenomic reaching out he had an album in 2019 called space verse and i'm also a rapper so this is lining up too much it is so okay i just wanted to touch on the storm specifically i figured i couldn't take it but and i you know obviously that makes sense i just wanted to see if i could um so the great red spot, which like scientists have perceived like as far back as 1665 and they think it's the same one going now. Dang. Wind speeds up to 268 miles per hour. Frankly, I would have thought faster than that because that can happen on earth. I would have thought it'd be some kind of number you can't wrap your head around or something. Right. Yeah. Like 6,000 mile an hour winds, something like that.
Starting point is 01:23:04 can't wrap your head around or something right yeah like 6 000 mile an hour winds something like that well that it's a little more comforting to be like okay so that'd be the one similarity i'm like they're the buckest wind in that storm is like the crazy buckest wind we'd ever have here ever so all right so there's something in common well i'll just how about i pick the rings of saturn then i can do that we were just talking about it the rings of saturn and i didn't look this up on purpose for uh the ancient craft of conversation to be better but it's just is it just little broken up meteorites and stuff like and that that it's trapped in gravity or is it actually caramel or what is it is it nougat it's caramel caramel okay you can eat it right you can eat the rings of saturn definitely definitely i think that
Starting point is 01:23:46 there's a theory that it might have been like a moon that got torn apart by saturn's gravity i think i think there's a couple theories i'm not sure it's a hundred percent settled i could be wrong that sounds pretty fun the gravity that's a pretty cool that moon dated my wife and i can't be having that i'm gonna make it in pieces orbit me and his ectrophant yeah the could you fly there's another thing could you fly through that or is it is it like dense i think it's not crazy crazy dense but i think it's surprisingly thin considering how wide it is like i want to say that the ring disc is only like a mile wide or something. I looked this up before I was doing that.
Starting point is 01:24:29 So I could run through it in eight minutes. I've since forgotten. You could do what? I could run through it in eight minutes is what you're telling me. Sure. Had I not ran any previous miles. Yeah, I mean, if I noticed anything
Starting point is 01:24:40 from the rings outside of UCB, it's that they are gorgeous. It's pretty cool, yeah. Is there, okay, it's that they are gorgeous. And it's pretty cool. Yeah. Is there, okay. Here's another insane question. Since we have a scientist on,
Starting point is 01:24:49 is there any chance that that could happen to earth in my lifetime? That our moon could get torn apart and turn into rings? That our moon could get crushed and turn into a ring. So I can see it by the time Maxine's, I want to give it to Maxine for a graduation present. Sure. Can I arrange it? Can I arrange for that to happen?
Starting point is 01:25:05 Could Jeff Bezos arrange for it to happen? I mean, you know, what's crazy about the Northern Lights the other day is like that was the cool side of the solar storm and the solar wind. But like if that had been a little more severe, we also would have like our power grid would have been knocked out and it would have been like chaos. So like crazy shit can happen. also would have like our power grid would have been knocked out and it would have been like chaos so like if you're gonna bring up can't happen crazy bring up the northern lights let's leave it to those of us who went outside of our house and saw the northern lights too no no it's not for me to talk about it's not for me to talk about that was mean that was mean and i take it back with you in a vulnerable this is the real sean that the listeners don't know about this is the bully
Starting point is 01:25:45 he was just talking about Isaac cut that out and put in the stuff about me getting bullied for wearing my Mr. Sean jacket she's screaming at Isaac now Isaac
Starting point is 01:25:54 wake up why'd you leave your makeup on the table while you guys were is that the line why'd you leave your makeup on the table yeah
Starting point is 01:26:04 is that what he says why'd you leave your makeup on the table that's what what he says? Why'd you leave your makeup on the table? That's what I've always taken it as and I've never looked it up. I've never even known what it was. Why'd you leave your makeup on the table? No, it's put on a little makeup. What is that song? Who's that by?
Starting point is 01:26:17 It's System of a Down, Glendale's Finest, baby. What are you talking about? Wake up, grab a brush, put on a little makeup. Whoa. I say a little makeup. Whoa. Way off. I say a little prayer for you. Together. While riding the bus, dear.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Self-righteous. Yeah. Anyway, that dude can wheel. I've discussed the fade away the shake up. Why do you leave the keys upon the table okay here you go create another fable i'm mixing up all kinds of stuff in there yeah all right there is makeup in there i just wouldn't have thought that's a line in that song it's funny when you say it out loud you're like oh man i wish i could have not said that i wish i could
Starting point is 01:26:58 get one of those black holes and not say that out loud on this podcast but a lot of people listen to then they just yell father a bunch. Well, yeah. That's the only thing that can get out of a black hole is me yelling father. Light can also not escape a system of a dance song. Anyway, man, the rings on Saturn, they're just dank.
Starting point is 01:27:19 What do you want from me? There are some scientists who think it's the result of two moons crashing into each other. Okay. So you know that. It's like when me and the word bird were in Toronto. Oh, they're going to get some rings. Some rings are going to get exchanged.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Yeah. It's mostly ice, right? Mostly water ice. Yeah, ice. That's what I'm seeing. Yeah. They got them from Philly. I can't stop today. It's water ice. Water ice. You're going Mostly water ice. Yeah, ice. They got them from Philly. I can't stop today.
Starting point is 01:27:45 It's water ice. Water ice. You're going to go to Wawa and check out them rings? It's the one accent I just cannot do it. I don't know how to do it. I know how to say like Hoogie over there, but I can't string a sentence together
Starting point is 01:28:01 in that accent. It's so hard for me to do. The Colombo Gap, which is one of the C-ring structures, is named after Giuseppe Beppe Colombo. Giuseppe Beppe Colombo. His name is not Giuseppe Beppe. You're doing a bit. No, his name is Giuseppe Beppe Colombo. Giuseppe Beppe.
Starting point is 01:28:20 What's the Beppe doing in there? Beppe's short for Giuseppe. It's a nickname for Giuseppe. It's a nickname for Giuseppe. Oh, okay. I thought you meant Giuseppe Bepi. I thought it was his middle name or something. I was like, what? I thought it was like a Dougie Doug like Jon Bon Jovi or something.
Starting point is 01:28:36 I would have rather let you live in that fiction, but I had to come clean. But yeah, Giuseppe Bepi Colombo. It's like Wilt the Stiltz. The chamber. The Clyde Rexley. The Cly stilts. The chamber. Yeah. The Clyde. The space. The Clyde Rexley. Clyde the Clyde, baby.
Starting point is 01:28:48 The rings of Saturn. Yeah, the rings of Saturn. Unfortunately. Good choice. Good choice. Not made out of onions. David, time for your second pick. I'm taking FFPs.
Starting point is 01:28:56 I'm taking rogue planets. Oh. What? Because that is just. I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, no. You go ahead.
Starting point is 01:29:04 I just. It. When I was looking it up, the idea that there are planets just floating through space, not like, because from what I understand, they get kind of kicked out of a solar system and then they free flow. And a lot of times when they get to another solar system, they'll be accepted in and kind of start to orbit. But sometimes they won't and they'll keep going and it just to me sounds less like science and more like mythology yeah right like it sounds like the idea of like one of these stories that we made up to figure out while why we're here as opposed to like like the planet did something wrong and now it's cursed to float through space forever exiled planets yeah yeah yeah you know what i mean it's like there's something kind of poetic about it to me and kind of romantic it's just really cool i don't even know that was real yeah that's fascinating i don't know how how
Starting point is 01:29:56 would we i don't know why i'm asking i wonder how we detect them because i think in general they said they said they first found them in 2000 i don't know you got to look it up too man i'm reading confirmed 5200 of them but they theorize that billions exist so just sometimes it just gets a little erratic with the orbit and it's just like i'm out of here there could be infinite numbers that's what i'm saying what we're talking about this goddamn expanding universe again that calms david down so much but there could be an infinite number of these rogue planets that wear jean jackets that go to other planet schools all the time dude just just cruising just cruising through space and then they said that like uh what was it where was it there was something where it's like, it's not likely, but it's not impossible that they could have life.
Starting point is 01:30:48 So the idea that there's like life on a rogue planet just float. That's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. Also, that light. They can't sustain. How do they sustain life without a stable star? Without the light coming from the.
Starting point is 01:31:02 Listen, dude. This is all very light research guys let me see if i can find the page don't make me hold your hand for you yeah it's embarrassing for you does anything go through space slowly you always hear about this fucking thing was flying through does anything go through space at like two miles an hour just like really really going calmly through space oh yeah it would life would need to get its energy from internal sources on the planet if it was possible they say it can form like a planet around a star and then be ejected or conform like a low mass star or a brown dwarf in isolation it said a lot of them are low mass from what i saw it must be the intermittent fasting or something
Starting point is 01:31:43 enough dust enough space dust is around that it starts to just coalesce with its own gravity but not enough that it starts to do fusion like a star right or like yeah uh it answered your question about speed sean the other thing in space speed is entirely like well uh compared to what like that's what i'm saying if there's nothing around am i going fast or am i barely moving there's to what like that's what i'm saying if there's nothing around am i going fast or am i barely moving there's i mean like that's the thing like speed velocity is sort of a meaningless term except compared to something else like acceleration that's a real thing that you know you can measure independent of anything else to compare it to but like velocity is entirely just
Starting point is 01:32:25 compared compared to what yeah so i'm sure you could find something that in relation to something else is going two miles an hour if you want to make that your reference for what for what movement is then sure i don't know why but i feel stupid now if i'm wrong there's something in me in my chest where i'm like wait it's tight what tight. What's going on? Welcome to the Space Draft. I've been here all day. I hope you have listeners. I know you have listeners who are more informed than all listeners. No, no one listens.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Oh, no. I'm sure there are going to be people who are like, it was a tough listen for me. As a space buff, these guys are fucking idiots. Well, it was a tough record for us, so rest assured, I'm there. fucking idiots well it was a tough record for us so rest assured we had a good time but the whole time i do feel like uh i'm lost in my google maps doesn't work i'm really enjoying myself these are great ones you're talking about feeling lost and you have uh you took rogue planets in the vastness of space i feel like you're doing you're right on time yeah Yeah, dude. I mean, it's a very me pick. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:26 I saw Rogue Planets in the vastness of space at a picket thon, by the way. They were great. They were drinking absinthe the whole time. Yeah. I had some mushroom tea, but like only a little bit. They were beautiful, man. They were great. I think they're from Burlington, Vermont, too.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Yeah. They've got a theremin player, if I recall correctly. Yeah, they got a theremin for sure but yeah rogue planets man i think it's just like something kind of beautiful about it uh and it comes with your second and third picks as it is a serpentine draft okay well i'm gonna do uh well these are sort of related so so I guess it doesn't matter which order. Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice is a star in Orion. It is a red supergiant, and you can see its redness with the naked eye.
Starting point is 01:34:15 And what is awesome about this is there's a small chance in our lifetime that this thing will go supernova. chance in our lifetime um that this thing will go supernova so the i think i should check on this but i believe the thinking is it will happen in the next 100 000 years which seems like a long window but like the universe has been around for 14 billion years and uh if we if we look at that as a ratio of the age of the universe that's like oh it's happening in the next day uh so it's a certain day yeah pretty much let me see uh but earth's only been around for 6 000 which is right that's right uh yeah if beetlejuice goes supernova it will be like as bright as the full moon i believe and we will see it during the day for like a month whoa and that could happen in our lifetime which like again what are the chances if we're all alive even if we're alive on another hundred years that's a one in a thousand
Starting point is 01:35:11 chance but that one in a thousand is like much better than the usual lottery pick of like one in a billion or something for something of note to happen so um yeah keep your eyes on on beetlejuice up there in... Just go outside. ...Orion's shoulder. You're going to be playing Dr. Mario during the whole three-month solar event. You're going to be locked in on a tournament.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Can't see Beetlejuice. I got this Dr. Mario tourney. Someone's just like, no, Andy, it's going to happen. You're like, so is me beating this record. Those are two things that's going to happen. I'm holding court. A couple of blues coming down here. Two more viruses to pop off of this thing, and then I clear the level.
Starting point is 01:35:52 That will happen. Yeah. Beetlejuice is giant. If it was in the middle of our solar system, it would engulf the orbits of Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars. It'd probably just cook us like Terminator 2, right? We wouldn't be able to hang out too hard if Betelgeuse was our star. Radius 760 times that of our sun.
Starting point is 01:36:12 That's insane. Yeah, so I think that's, yeah, our sun, its life cycle is not going to ever include that because it's not massive enough to cause that supernova, which brings me, if I may, to my next pick. Supernovas in general, or supernovaee how do you do the plural of that i should know that um brother you don't want to find out i'll tell you that all right uh these things went to supernova i think i think
Starting point is 01:36:38 most of those next players did go to crossover of it crossover at crossover event of the century right there keep going andy i'm sorry no no no um so yeah the way the way most stars work is they are just uh big enough that their gravity is pushing hydrogens together to form helium so hydrogen's the smallest element it's just one proton it's one on the periodic table. If you have enough force and you can push two of those together, you get a helium, which is two protons. But weirdly, one helium weighs a tiny bit less than the two hydrogens that combine to make it. And that tiny bit of mass that's lost when the two hydrogens are fused to become a helium, that's converted to energy. And do you know the formula for that?
Starting point is 01:37:30 Einstein? E equals MC squared? E equals MC squared. I said at birth, everyone heard me say it before, Sean. Isaac, if you could switch our voices around so it looks like Ian is trailing me, please. is trailing me please so that tiny bit of mass you multiply that by c which is the speed of light 3.0 times 10 to the 8th meters per second that squared so the tiniest bit of mass gets converted to this insane amount of energy this is why everyone's trying to figure out fusion as a power source here because it's it's clean and you get just a shit ton of energy for a tiny bit of mass loss.
Starting point is 01:38:06 So that's what's happening in most stars. It's just two hydrogens fusing together to make a helium. That's why we call it helium from the Greek god of the sun, Helios. So all of that is what keeps all of us alive. It keeps all that light coming here. But then a big enough star, eventually it runs out. You know, let's say theoretically everything that was hydrogens now now it's all helium but it's still as massive as it was it still has as much gravity and it's
Starting point is 01:38:31 getting smaller so that more dense and more gravity just because of the denseness of whatever so you get this chain reaction towards the end of a star's life then the heliums will start fusing to form bigger and bigger things. And also those bigger things are slightly less massive than the two things that made it and giving off more energy. And that keeps going all the way up until iron. So iron is, I want to say like 38 on the periodic table. So it's like 38 protons, 26, 26.
Starting point is 01:39:03 So this is a cool thing. I just learned last couple a year so iron is kind of the middle of the periodic table of elements everything bigger than iron that has more than 26 protons all those things can release energy by nuclear fission by splitting apart so like uranium is like 235 protons or something and it wants to break apart it's unstable and when it breaks apart apart into two smaller things, those also weigh less than the one it started with.
Starting point is 01:39:28 It's like the opposite. And that difference in mass gives energy. So that's how like nuclear bombs and nuclear power plants that do fission. So everything bigger than iron splits apart and releases energy.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Everything smaller than iron can theoretically fuse and release energy. So everything's fusing, fusing, fusing at the end of a star's life. And then it gets up to iron. Now there's no more energy. So everything's fusing, fusing, fusing at the end of a star's life. And then it gets up to iron. Now there's no more energy to be gained by fusing, but the gravity is still just going at this crazy clip
Starting point is 01:39:54 and it's getting smaller and smaller. And then I've tried to find a good explanation for what happens now, but basically all fucking hell breaks loose once you get to iron. And then it just collapses on itself and violates all these quantum laws of what should happen at the subatomic level and then it just bounces back and explodes into this insane the supernova just the thing that will make beetlejuice
Starting point is 01:40:18 visible for a month during the day it just bounces out and then just goes fucking bonkers explodes um i don't know into how much bigger of a radius than what the original planet was but um and then i think that's insane yeah it's really but it's cool also i think even the experts don't totally get what goes on there they just know yeah it fuses up to iron and then just like fucking and that's that's the iron is the point too where it's like it gets iron, then shit gets nuts. Yeah, it can't fuse anymore. It's just going to collapse.
Starting point is 01:40:52 And before that, it becomes a neutron star, which is like all the electrons and protons fuse together to form neutrons. So everything in it is just a ball of neutrons. I think that's what happens. Because that's not iron, that's neutron. It's not even any element because there's nothing to call it it's just all neutrons and like a teaspoon of that
Starting point is 01:41:08 weighs you know 60 billion pounds or something like oh my god I was looking at that, the weight of the neutron stars I might have stolen is neutron stars someone else's shit let's say I didn't say that and that makes you feel calm David
Starting point is 01:41:23 I was going to say all this is where you're just like, man, what a nice day. You know what trips me out is like the same shit out there that's doing that is the same shit that's like here holding my jeans together. You know, it's all the same elements, right? Like it's where all this stuff
Starting point is 01:41:36 is made out of the same stuff. Well, you wear super massive black denim. So that's... You don't even, you're not ready for the pockets on my new jeans. The kids got pockets and zippers fully back and their shit flares out. You don't even You're not ready for the pockets on my new jeans The kids got pockets and zippers Fully back and their shit flares out
Starting point is 01:41:48 You're not ready for it I would love if you started dressing like that Are you going to start dressing like that? If I start dressing like Lil Dre? Sure I'll start dressing like I'm a Versace model Who's Lil Dre? He's one of the new model Slash skateboarders who's amazing at skateboarding and also just perfect looking
Starting point is 01:42:06 and wears crazy dumb shit that the kids are wearing. You know what I mean? Like the kids. I'm 42. I'm supposed to think their shit looks stupid. But to them, it looks amazing. He's wearing some big pants. Dude, so many zippers, right?
Starting point is 01:42:19 Anyway, that stuff's the same thing that's making Beetlejuice explode. You're right. Because most of the universe is just hydrogen, like that tiny you know one proton in the atom everything bigger all this shit look around your room all these things that are far up the periodic table all happen because of supernovas like otherwise it would just be mostly hydrogen a bit of helium but then at the end when it starts to fuse together make all these jupiter over here bigger and trigger things like as moby taught us we are all made of stars uh yeah it's true shout out to moby bitch i knew he was gonna come up we try to get him up
Starting point is 01:42:51 if he was gonna come up it'd be in this draft that was ruled yeah i play one david your third Well, this is the edge of, I don't even know what I'm talking about, but I read about it and I wrote it down because I wanted to see if Andy knew about it. I'm picking White Holes. Oh, I don't know about White Holes. What is this? God. I'm excited. I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Andy, let me, let me, let me to jump in here. Now I'm really butt fucked. I'll show you a white hole. Yeah. My stepdad brought a video, a white hole video. Okay. I don't like this story at all. I hate that.
Starting point is 01:43:37 They got, they got white holes and funny holes. And those are the two that got holes in there. So they said it's theoretical, but it's the idea is that it's the opposite of a black hole in that everything escapes, nothing can enter. But the craziest thing that I was reading about it was it basically said that if objects inside the white hole, they can leave and interact with the outside world, but nothing can get in so the interior of the white hole is cut off from the universe's past which means no outside event will ever affect the inside it feels like a lot of cheese lately probably too much dairy on this diet come on man come on man we're trying to be serious i'm trying to learn ian i need knowledge you know i know, I'm a sponge, baby. Nothing can enter? Sounds like a whole lie though, too.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Yeah. So I don't want to be, I mean, I don't want to figure it out real quick, but it sounds like black holes on one side, white holes on the other. Time travel. Am I insane? But then I was reading and some people were saying that it might be two sides of the same coin. It's fucked, dude.
Starting point is 01:44:40 It was dense for me. This is all theoretical or this is some of this is all theoretical yeah but it's a fun idea yeah like what it would do to time i'm doing some quick googling here yeah like the concept arises from time symmetric solutions in general relativity i know what that means so don't bother i'm not sure i totally get that just the idea of the inside of it is unaffected by the everything about that is crazy to me right yeah i'll be honest here so like when we podcast going all the way back to episode one but like especially since we've gone over zoom i will
Starting point is 01:45:28 pop open zoom window or wikipedia every now and then just to read up just to be like you know what i'll clear i'll provide some clarifying information and this entire draft is is the one like it leads the league in me going to a Wikipedia page, starting to scroll and just being like, Oh, okay. I was doing it last night. Making the list. I'm like, I'm not going to be able to peacefully go to sleep if I keep doing this.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Yeah, I didn't. I mostly brought this up because I thought that I could bring it up and then Andy would take it. And I would be like, yeah, what a great pick dude. It is crazy.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Reading about it is crazy reading about it is crazy though yeah but so is reading about like jay-z i mean you know it's it's just how you want to think about it no i can understand jay-z yeah i get that he shot his brother i understand yeah i'd never really thought about the fact that a black hole it's a one-way street for all matter and light but but that also implies time, essentially. And like you said, the white hole would be the opposite. So, like you said, nothing in the outside world could affect
Starting point is 01:46:31 in a time... If they're like a ho-ho, if they're intertwined... So it's like, it's completely secular from all its space, right? It's its completely owned thing inside there, but it can still get out
Starting point is 01:46:47 and affect us. Right, but I wonder how it doesn't instantly lose all of its mass if it is this thing that's just like an exit-only, pushing everything out. Well, a walk around the desert should solve that for you.
Starting point is 01:47:03 I expect an answer by nightfall. Look at Ian's face. He's literally the only thing on this page I've seen that I can understand is that there is a it's a white hole serves as a major source of conflict in the yugioh anime hell yeah it does oh wait a second writing yugioh understands it to an extent he uh some theorists have even speculated the big bang itself might be the only physical example of a white hole which that makes yeah the big bang is a white hole like it's right yeah yeah it's out yeah yeah crazy crazy indeed i love that pic yeah you should wish you were in bed with me at one o'clock in the morning i have fucking fluto and jupiter i need it i need to get my levels up on this next no it wasn't even crazy i got it on space.com no i know I know. I saw it. I saw it early, but I was like, I'm just going to take stuff I kind of get.
Starting point is 01:48:07 Uh-uh. I'm playing the game wrong. Sean? I. And K-A-R-M-E-L. This is pretty fi, but alternate realities. Okay. Oh, like string theory kind of stuff? So I don't even know. It's the theory that like, whatever, everything's happened. Like that Doctor Strange, you know, everything. Right. There's just infinite worlds where all of this, like this is happening right now somewhere else. But like, Ian's funny and David's loud.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Was this all for this bit? No, i'm so funny i just i'm so funny i just thought of that this is all this is get it no but you know you know what i mean though like that everything every it's just like david and i like are peeing into the same fountain and it gets struck by lightning and then all this no that? No, that was an ill-advised bit. I'm just saying the fact that anything is happening, anything in any world, there's all infinite alternate realities. That's a
Starting point is 01:49:13 theory. That's very fi on this. But again, none of this is out of the realm of possibility because the universe is infinite. So how are we to know there's not an extra or a different Earth out there where, like Bizarro Supermanman or whatever now i'm talking fast because i'm starting to spin out but is this space or is this like theoretical i think this counts all of it yeah right this is definitely uh we we had theoretical physicist sean carroll on our
Starting point is 01:49:42 podcast years ago um who then went on to like he's consulted for some marvel movie like the thor dark dark whatever i mean yeah it feels like that's where the stuff the dark world but that's like where this stuff goes but it's it's when you talk about like ghosts or whatever like if someone believes in ghosts to me they kind of also have to be religious because what's the huge difference? So if I'm going to say that space is infinite and that it's ever-expanding, how am I to say that this isn't a possibility somehow? Yeah. Or how are you to say that all the things... So Sean Carroll told us about this thought experiment called the Boltzmann's brain or something like that. I could butcher this, but, um, it's basically saying if the universe is going to be infinite
Starting point is 01:50:31 and even if at the end of it, it is just mostly like, um, you know, if the big bang was like pouring cream into coffee, we are now in the period where like there's interesting tendrils of coffee mixing with cream and you know how does a podcast arise well that's one of those weird little like whirlpools of like but you know fast forward 10 minutes or 100 billion years it's all just even brown like that's the universe tends towards high entropy everything would just be nothing but there's something after that like another big bang somewhere or something exactly the universe tends towards high entropy. Everything will just be nothing. But if the universe lasts... Like another Big Bang somewhere or something. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Or it wouldn't even require that. Basically, if it exists forever, you will still have random collisions of particles. And given enough time and enough chances, like sort of the infinite monkeys, infinite typewriters,
Starting point is 01:51:21 eventually all those particles will assemble to form, even if just for an instant, everything you see around you right now, including all the memories in your brain. And how could you prove that everything that is your past, those were all things you actually experienced versus how can you prove you aren't in one of the, and if it's infinite, that'll happen an infinite number of times randomly. And sometimes it'll happen where this, my phone will be sitting over here instead of here. But in any of those cases, how could you be certain you're living in a version of yourself where all the past that led to your current memory state actually happened as opposed
Starting point is 01:51:58 to all these, all these atoms and subatomic particles just happened to align and form this brain that has all these memories. And that's the sort of Boltzmann brain paradox as an argument for why the universe probably won't be infinite, because if it were true, then we'd have to admit that the chances that we're... It's almost like the simulation theory, but the chances that all the things that we thought happened actually happened would be near zero, because there'd be so many other times that all these things would also arise just randomly for brief it has to be infinite i mean because even if something even if it's not ever expanding or whatever there's
Starting point is 01:52:32 got to be something there can't be nothing and if it's nothing that nothing is now the something yeah but i don't think these things hold up to just intuitive i get what you're saying i went to two years of college at the University of South Dakota. And they didn't cover this, but I had a feeling we were going to cover this before I dropped out. Source? Some OG platinum cushion. No, that's what I'm saying. This shit just bends me. But yeah, this is one that I wanted to get a little more into the fi too.
Starting point is 01:53:05 And obviously, we're not going to figure out. It's just fun to think about. There's a different world where there's another me who has good needs or something. Of parallel universes, but also just even if it's just this one universe, but if it lasts forever time-wise, the same thing essentially could happen just because things will keep arising and going away just out of sheer chance. That shit breaks my brain. I'm saying the words, but I'm not actually thinking about it because I would get that feeling, I think. Hello, all family. This is Isaac checking in in the middle of the night in Seoul, South Korea, interrupting the show because Andy's internet at this point goes down. And so there's a bit of confusion here. I'm going to take this opportune, the best way is to uproot your entire life. You drop everything you're doing, just go to a brand new country. You figure it out from there. But this isn't the talented Mr. Ripley. All right? You're not Jason Bourne. You can't do that. Two Damon movies. I'm out here. Obviously, you're not ready for that, but you still want to learn a new language because everyone in the world
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Starting point is 01:58:08 Never skip therapy day with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com slash all fantasy today to get 10% off your first month. Again, that's betterhelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash all fantasy. It's crazy. I guess we can talk. It's crazy because it's when he's talking about the most insane shit happening. I know. And guess we can talk. It's crazy because it's when he's talking about the most insane shit happened. I know. Happening.
Starting point is 01:58:26 And then he freezes. And it's like the government has. But the government's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This can be again. Or is this just what my brain is doing? My brain's going to be. Oh, yeah. I'd like to see what happens.
Starting point is 01:58:41 Am I just glitching because I can't take it in? Well, okay. I took a philosophy class and i can't i can't take it in well okay i took a philosophy class and i didn't think philosophy was what i didn't realize it was so religious like i didn't realize a chick you thought it was some sort of chick pea nugget right yeah a falafel a falafel falafel but the dude falafel see where's my tzatziki? Is this Philopathy 101? Oh, dang. I think. He'll come back. He texted us, I think.
Starting point is 01:59:09 We'll just tell him to sign back in. But our teacher, he'd be like, so if there's a Coke machine in the quad or whatever, and then you go away from it, then you can't see it. How do you know it's still there? And I was like, whoa. Because how do I? That kind of stuff., so all this stuff, all this like theory stuff, it just, it's fun to think about to a, to a certain point. And then I have to completely
Starting point is 01:59:34 stop. Cause I'm like, well, I can't, I can't be doing that. I got to go for a walk or something. You guys are making me freaked out that it doesn't bother me that much. Well, no, I, I would, I wouldn't be everything about it. No, I'm freaked out that it doesn't bother me that much. Well, no, I wouldn't be freaked out about it. Not freaked out, but I'm just like, I don't know. It just doesn't really. I've always said this. I want, I'd love to have that mellow. I don't, every single thing freaks me out.
Starting point is 01:59:59 So of course, space is going to make me lose my mind. Would you go to space? Here's a, if it was safe, would you go? But that's another part of it to me. It's like, yeah, probably not. No? It'd be interesting to put in perspective. It seems like it's so loose.
Starting point is 02:00:17 It seems like it's so loose right now that I'm like, I'll wait until they figure it out. I don't understand how anyone gets back. You know, where you hear all this stuff about like you can't, the math involved in just shooting you into this trajectory where some other gravity is going to, I just don't know how people make it back to Earth. It's crazy to me.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Right, where they have to like aim back and shoot, like go back. And then when they come in, it's not like, they don't come in like a needle into a pin cushion. It's, you know, around. You have to like calculate don't come in like a needle into a pin cushion it's all right you know around you have to like calculate entering into the atmosphere at a slow curve you know like you go with the earth it's just it's absolutely insane to me um was that who who was up let me look because i guess we could just jump right into it but then we won't have andy here to explain my picks yeah yeah same well same same same that's
Starting point is 02:01:06 a that's a big part that's a big part of this for me and i've got back-to-back picks here too so i guess it's fuck ian day huh without the credibility of andy we're just kind of some dudes. Three dudes, dinosaurs on space. Oh, none of us are stoned even. Hopefully you at home are. We haven't been on Jeopardy once between the three of us. And Andy's been on there six times. All right.
Starting point is 02:01:37 Here's my best attempt. I am going to take. All right. You know what? I'm going to take Buzz Aldrin. Calm it down a little bit. Great pick. Yeah. Bring it back a little bit. Great pick. Yeah. Bring it back to our wheelhouse.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Some dude punching a guy because he's mad. That I understand. Absolutely. Buzz Aldrin. I think he was like, I think Buzz was 72 when he punched the guy too. He punched the guy who denied the moon landing. What was his real name? It wasn't Buzz, right?
Starting point is 02:02:05 I never looked into that, like if his name was like Arnold or something. No, his name can't be Buzz. Edwin Eugene Aldrin Jr. Yeah, they'd call me Buzz too. A.K.A. Buzz. Dude was just a badass across the board. He flew 66 combat missions during the Korean War,
Starting point is 02:02:23 shot down two MiG-15s survived a uh he was like a test pilot and he grayed out they call it like graying out uh where you like try to do this insane maneuver twice in a row so he pat like basically passed out the plane started crashing he woke up and pulled the plane back into like that top not crashing that top gun thing that they just they gave us with Maverick, right? Don't they do that in Maverick? That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:48 He Top Gun Maverick'd for real. And then also was the second person to set foot on the moon. That takes a level of humility, you know? Yeah. Like, you know what? You go on and get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:02 You go ahead. I'll step on second, and then I'll punch a guy later and people will talk about me more. And then got interviewed by Ali G. That's right. That's probably my favorite thing he's ever said.
Starting point is 02:03:12 Was when Ali G is like, yo, what would you say to the people that thinks there is no moon? And he goes, he looks at Ali G and he's like, there most certainly is a moon. This guy who grayed out, like flew 68 combat missions, stepped on the moon
Starting point is 02:03:28 and he's looking at Oli G. And it's too old to understand that it's a joke. Was this the Buzz Aldrin appearance? I drafted Buzz Aldrin. I drafted Buzz Aldrin. Andy has returned after the government trying to silence him. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:46 The government doesn't know that you have this phone right yeah i got too close to some truth there guys sorry about the boltzman brain uh we'll have to dial it back and see if they'll uh hey 301 baby you weren't here to explain enough of our pick so i just went ahead and took buzz aldrin somebody i think we could all just sort of vaguely understand yeah he punched a guy so we get he's had some drinks i think yeah that is amazing he when we did the very last episode of chelsea lately uh we had a bunch of like just famous like all the famous people we could get there in the building including buzz aldrin he was down he was like yeah he was like a camera get me in front of it hell yeah but i think more than the camera like a green room yeah oh interesting yeah he was in there having snacks
Starting point is 02:04:32 you get to chop it up with him at all or say i did i met him i'm trying to find the picture right now uh but yeah i got to talk to him he was wearing a get your ass to mars shirt from total recall hell yeah come on callagan nice i want him to be a cool guy i like that it was cool as hell man your ass to Mars shirt from Total Recall. Hell yeah. Come on, Callaghan. Nice. I want him to be a cool guy. I like that. He was cool as hell, man. He could not have been cooler. There's that thing if you... One of the many things I've researched, but that
Starting point is 02:04:55 a lot of people that have been in space, when they come back to Earth, they're a little like, well, fuck this. Because you can see the whole world how small it is. I'll go ahead and make that my second okay next pick oh okay uh but we can go back to buzz aldrin the overview effect right is that what that's called huh it's called the overview effect yeah which is something that happens to people who see the earth from a distance where sometimes it can be the fuck that but for a lot
Starting point is 02:05:25 of people it's this sort of like overwhelming sense of how delicate the earth is and how connected we all are like to each other how like all of us are here together that doesn't that is that is that's beautiful yeah that's easier to put my brain around than any of the other shit we've talked about except for buzz aldrin but maybe that's but maybe that's two sides of the same coin i think that's kind of maybe what i'm yeah that's like the other side of what i'm saying i hear you this is the white hole to the black hole that is the pig in your chest this is exactly exactly yeah i can do the i can do the overview of that because it's like being close enough that i can get back and looking back and thinking like oh here we all are uh you know like just on this tiny little satellite hurtling through space together and we have to like protect one another and less about
Starting point is 02:06:16 what else what where does it end which and that's like what freaks me out right um yeah it's just like a sense of it's almost like a kind of ego death sort of thing that happens to people they say yeah all it takes is a billion dollar space mission or 20 dollars of mushrooms yeah yeah come on yeah and it's not enough to make you not punch someone who says that we didn't land on the moon though whatever whatever powers that uh the overview effect has it will not keep us aldrin from just absolutely clocking a dude and i think that's beautiful too yeah dude no that's he's gonna do that before he went to the moon though yeah that was always gonna happen i just love that like you know that there's
Starting point is 02:06:57 this great show for all mankind that's on apple andy do you watch that i haven't seen it yet i got i've heard it's great yeah i think you might dig it the creator set out to make a show where he's like what would have to happen for Star Trek to eventually become a reality which is kind of a cool mission statement so it's very light speculative fiction
Starting point is 02:07:20 about if we just funded NASA like it was the military basically but it's great, but it's, I mean, it kind of covers what happened in real life, which is like astronauts went from insane test pilots who are willing to die flying like supersonic rocket ships to like scientists. And Buzz Aldrin was just one of those dudes where he was like, I'm an insane test pilot. I'm willing to die in a rocket ship. Uh, just one of those throwback astronauts was like i'm an insane test pilot i'm willing to die in a rocket ship yeah uh just one of those throwback astronauts that i think is really fun so they go from test
Starting point is 02:07:50 from test pilots to scientists but then the end of that trajectory is the to steve aoki do you guys know about the steve aoki moon mission no oh my internet is down now, but just Google Steve Aoki moon. Not Rocky, the sun. What's that? The DJ. The DJ. Yeah, okay. There is a moon mission that involves a bunch of civilians, including Steve Aoki. As I said, my Wi-Fi is down if you guys want to look it up.
Starting point is 02:08:16 Oh my God, yeah. Dear moon mission. And the best thing I read of this was, I should quote the Twitter person. I don't know who it was, but they're like, so imagine being the Wikipedia editor who has to add the Death on the Moon section to Steve Aoki's entries. Oh, yeah. The crew is Steve Aoki. Some guy made a song. Marshmallow halibut.
Starting point is 02:08:44 A South Korean musician. Choi Sung Yoon. Sorry for how I braille said Isaac. crew is steve aoki some guy made a marshmallow a south korean musician choice on yoon sorry for how i braille that isaac yemi ad a multidisciplinary creative what does that mean there's somebody there who looks very deantward if memory serves am i correct yeah okay rihanna rihanna and adam has a hardcore deantward haircut yeah If you go to the Dear Moon crew, it looks like you would be okay if they didn't make it back. There's a YouTuber named Tim Dodd.
Starting point is 02:09:18 Is one of the Paul brothers going? Yeah. Not as of current publishing a deep sea photographer I mean cool I guess if like these are the kind of people who get to go to the moon eventually it would be Sean Jordan
Starting point is 02:09:35 yeah yeah in my alternate reality I'd love to go to them I think I'd go well not with Max in my life for her i would have gone it has been postponed if you have guaranteed safety but it's still going to be like what is it probably a two-week mission or something would you do guaranteed safety i'd go for a year we just talked about this i'd go for a year even now even with a daughter i'd be like
Starting point is 02:10:01 yeah i gotta go yeah i mean i'd do it you don't think the claustrophobia you don't think you'd have a panic attack at some point during this guaranteed safety no that my panic attacks come from what i make up in my mind as far as like that's why i hate flying i just make up these scenarios it was guaranteed safety right no way i could sleep i feel like if i had a n Switch, I'd be okay. Yeah. Just like play Civilization for seven hours to make like, you know, pass some of the time. They go look at Earth, be like, oh, sick. Eat some edibles.
Starting point is 02:10:33 Watch all the Godfathers. Yeah, it'd be great. They're all of you, in fact, Sean. It'd be like going to Europe. Yeah. Is it me? Yep. Aliens, bro.
Starting point is 02:10:45 Yeah, dog. Yeah. Not a lot to say because we don't even know what's up with them. But they're out there. You tell me there ain't aliens out there. It's another thing when I was... What do you think? 10?
Starting point is 02:10:56 Something. I don't know. Right around you stop when Santa Claus stops. Sorry if there's any kids listening. Parents let their kids listen to this, which is wild. But right around that time where you're like There's gotta be aliens, there has to be There has to be And in theory, there's some on Earth right now, right?
Starting point is 02:11:12 Isn't that what's happening? What? You think there's aliens on Earth right now? Well, didn't I thought there was just something that broke about How an actual Independence Day situation is going on Where there's aliens here and we just didn't know about them or am i just on cooler websites than you no i don't know what i'm talking about who knows what i heard but i feel like some news broke a
Starting point is 02:11:35 while ago that was like not exactly definitive where they were like uh the ufos are real yeah it was or something like that but i mean there's gotta be an alien right like in the in the technical that we don't know they're unidentified right yeah right right i saw ufo once what and that's and nobody wanted to hear the end of it so like no follow-up questions it was in it was in new mexico it was in uh arizona new mexico at like three four o'clock in the morning i was with clero kane uh we were driving back to california we were on tour coming through from texas or something like that it's like four o'clock in the morning and it was like multi-colored and this huge flash went across the sky and then we didn't see anything else yeah i don't i believe
Starting point is 02:12:21 i mean it was fucking well it was it was wild. I've never seen anything like that before or after. We were listening to Comedy Bang Bang, which was hilarious. That is very funny. I believe it. Because that is what will happen when aliens appear. That's what was so fucked up about, like, science is that, like, oh, yeah, it would just happen at a kid's birthday party. You know, like, that is when we would get the first footage.
Starting point is 02:12:42 It would just be something innocuous every day happening. My dad swears he saw a UFO saw UFO too in upstate New York. I'm not going to tell him he didn't. Yeah. Yeah, dude. I don't know why people are so quick to discredit it. I don't see any huge reason why it couldn't happen. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:13:00 It doesn't help that most people well, like abductions, all that stuff, but it doesn't help that most people who claim to be abducted seem like kind of loony bins anyways but if i got abducted by aliens i might not be i might not have a firm grasp on reality what's what's my behavior gonna be after that i'd be pretty buck i think yeah i mean i would say the reason i think it's unlikely is just how difficult getting close i think no matter how advanced science gets i don't think we will ever the the speed of light i think is a true universal speed limit um i mean i guess there might be ways to like create wormholes or something but like
Starting point is 02:13:40 nothing is ever going to go the speed of light because that's another like divide by zero error in the universe so and even if something went the speed of light let's say there was intelligent life at alpha centauri that takes four years at the speed of light which is impossible i mean so any reasonable you know that's like three body problem if you guys read or watched that like um i guess have you guys seen that show yet on netflix or read the book i read the book the first book i read slight spoiler but you know it's like it takes the story takes place over 400 years for a reason and that reason is related to what we're talking about because it's just yeah the distances are just so unfathomable i mean if i show louis the 18th an iPhone, he'd just cut my head off.
Starting point is 02:14:25 So what are we saying? You know what I mean? Yeah. Louis XVIII. I don't know which one cut off all the heads. Was it the XIV? I'm just saying, like, who am I to say aliens don't have different math than we do?
Starting point is 02:14:37 Maybe they can do a different math. I think it's funny that you're thinking Louis XVIII. Maybe they can get here quicker. Maybe they got different lights, dude. You don't even know. That's, this is a thing. I think that that is one of the things get here quicker. Maybe they got different lights, dude. You don't even know. This is a thing. I think that is one of the things that I would put all my chips on is the speed of light is a hard limit. Didn't they get rid of the math that got you through Cornell already? So I don't know who I
Starting point is 02:14:57 am out here talking. Who's to say? These kids are doing different math than we did. So maybe aliens got better math. Anyway, aliens. Aliens. I like it. I do think aliens do or have existed. I just doubt they've gotten here. But I think the fact that we just in the last 30 years discovered, like 30 years ago, we didn't even know if there were any planets outside of our solar system. We thought maybe this was a freak thing that a star would have planets. And then in the last 30 years, we went from discovering some of those exoplanets to now
Starting point is 02:15:24 theorizing that every single star you see has at least one planet yeah i was reading they said it was like like at least one in six have like the earth-sized planet or something like that so yeah the odds that we that there wouldn't have been either now or at some point life somewhere else the odds are you'd have to be so cocky to say like nope only happened this one time right yeah well my uncle's pretty cocky then some notion that maybe like the way we age like in relation like there could be beings that like perceive time differently like maybe they age at a different rate than we do like like the fact that like someone lives to 100 years old and that's considered very old could be like a month for some of these creatures that maybe travel?
Starting point is 02:16:11 I wonder about that with just animals that have longer or shorter lifespans in general. Do they perceive time differently because of that? Does an insect that lives for a day does does that day feel like as uh right like does it feel like a data yeah or a greenland shark that lives for like 400 years is it just like does it is it like jesus i've been around a long time or is it like no this is how long or to the extent that they have consciousness at all i guess i guess sometimes i feel like it's like the way your problems are
Starting point is 02:16:47 your problems. It feels the same to everybody. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, I don't know. If I've never dealt with that, then this is the hardest thing for me. I do know. Yeah. Let's talk about Buzz Aldrin some more. Anyway.
Starting point is 02:17:04 For sure. Let's smoke some weed afterrin some more. Anyway. For sure. It's after this. Yeah, absolutely. Fourth pick. I don't know how to say this. Like how Sean was saying, it's all made out of the same stuff. The idea that like there are things that we would find familiar in space. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 02:17:25 Like, okay. What I saw was they said they found this cloud of gas at the center of the Milky way. And it's made out of ethyl formate, which is the, like, uh,
Starting point is 02:17:35 it's the same thing that gives raspberries their flavors and it smells like rum. So it's like the idea that you could be out in the middle of there. And then you're like, wait, I smell rum. Like it's like the idea yeah that you could be out in the middle of there and then you're like wait i smell rum like it's all the same we're all working with the same paint paint colors right space booze yeah the same element yeah yeah but it's not the fact that it's booze it's just the idea that something in this place that's completely different completely far completely different from what i know and there could still be some familiarity because it's all the same made from the same shit music is all made
Starting point is 02:18:13 from the same notes and they keep coming up with different exactly and so no matter where you where you go or what you do with it it's still music because it still has the building blocks of the notes yeah but like out there yeah a hydrogen atom is a hydrogen atom like yeah yeah that's just really wild to me like it is you know what i mean like i'm out here yeah that's what the fuck i wrote down space booze for you yeah thank you thank you that's really that's really it when you synthesize what i've been talking about but just like yeah i that also to me is kind of comforting where it's like yeah we got we got that at home yeah you know we got space at home yeah yeah yeah yeah it's like when you go you ever like when you go to another country and
Starting point is 02:19:05 you feel really like or this has maybe happened to me when i'm like in another country or something like that and i feel really really far away from home yeah and then you just get like a coca-cola or something and you're like oh yeah yeah or else yeah yeah yeah every culture has developed dumplings or they figured out that like grilling meat is good you know like every brisket right yeah exactly so the idea that that exists even deep into space is i don't know i think that's really really cool i'm not changing it to space brisket the pig oh thank god i love it I love it. I had to outgrow the space booze. Or space raspberries. Or space raspberries.
Starting point is 02:19:49 That is fucking wild. That, like, there is a huge cloud of what makes raspberries taste good out in space. Yeah, or, like, it smells like rum. It smells like rum in here. It smells like rum in space. It smells like that time I went to Sandals, Jamaica. You know what I mean? That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:20:04 Yeah, people get married out there too they have little bachelorette parties flip side of wait I do want to hear what you wanted to say about flip side yeah yeah yeah flip side of that is just like if one atom of whatever is the same as one atom of whatever
Starting point is 02:20:22 then there's somebody who had this like thought experiment about basically about Star Trek whatever is the same as one atom of whatever then there's somebody who had this like thought experiment about basically about star trek teletransport transporter beam whatever the word for the beam me up devices transporter um if what it's doing is just like uh scanning every atom of your body um and then rebuilding that like imagine if that was happening if we're sitting here and someone's like okay on a different planet right now i'm scanning you and every single atom i'm building from the ground up so now there is an exact david on mars atom for atom um david
Starting point is 02:21:01 for david are you that thing now and do you care if we now kill the version of you on earth as long as that was built at the same time you took away like would your consciousness make that jump or would there be two of your conscious because every neuron is the same every atom is the same are there two of you do you care if we kill the first one like and and what is consciousness and that
Starting point is 02:21:20 if you could make a second one of me am I me or am I just this kind of random grouping now we're talking about what makes me me what's what's powering this engine you know what i mean that's what i was have sex is that masturbation or what yeah also also if that's me then like what yeah doesn't matter if you kill me and what is would that mean still have my memories and stuff? Like, would the behavior be different? So would the behavior be the same, you would assume?
Starting point is 02:21:50 Like, it would do what I would do? I think if you ask that thing, it thinks it's you. It has all your memories. But if that's what happens every time you do a Star Trek transportation to your friends, it'll be, oh, he's fine. Look, it's him. But, like, you killed the one on the ship to make the one on the planet you know like the magician that's what i was gonna say that's what
Starting point is 02:22:11 they do the whole movie spoiler alert but and if it's and if it's me killing me is it really i mean now we're talking about more is that is that is that a problem i mean it's you gotta ask yourself but i think but i think if that's the tech i would never sign up to be beamed because Is that a problem? I mean, it's... You gotta ask yourself. But I think if that's the tech, I would never sign up to be beamed because I think... It seems fucked. Yeah, yeah. Because that still means you're gonna die.
Starting point is 02:22:34 It's like Severance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like as much as that goes, it's still I have to die. Right. Severance is fucked in my head. But I mean, I'm just gonna die anyways. That show, yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:43 Oh, yeah. I might have to get hammered after this. I don't know what's going to happen. I'm not. I don't feel right. But anyways, yeah. Little pieces of home out in space. Doing double duty trying to get this Dropbox
Starting point is 02:22:58 link over here and that's where I want to be like, Isaac, I don't know what's going on right now. He's on the plane. This is hilarious. Anyway, yeah. Andy, time for your fourth pick. Excellent. By the way, sorry for making everything so long,
Starting point is 02:23:13 but I love this stuff. Thank you for indulging. This is great. I'm going to go straight up North Star, man. It's just always there for you. Polaris. Yeah. How?
Starting point is 02:23:24 How is it always there for you polaris yeah like how like how is it always there for us yeah it's just the fact that we happen to have this is just dumb luck there happens to be like a pretty bright star it's not the brightest but you know visible with the naked eye um and it happens to be lined up exactly with the axis that our planet is spinning on right so if you set a long exposure camera out overnight that will be in the same place in the picture everything else all the rest of stars will look like they're big circles around it right so we wild it's just dumb luck that the planet happens to be aligned with that thing and it makes navigation for the last few centuries so much easier because you can always be like, that is directly north and it's never going anywhere. Except what I just learned
Starting point is 02:24:10 in the last couple of years, it is going somewhere because the earth spins like a top. So it precesses, so our axis wobbles, but it takes 26,000 years to do a full circle. So in 13,000 years, years to do a full circle. So in 13,000 years, if I stood in the night sky and pointed at the North star and didn't move for 13,000 years, what would be by my finger then is the star Vega, which is very far away in the night sky. So like our axis is going to draw this circle in the night sky over the next 26,000 years. So, you know, in like 5 like 5 000 years there won't be any north star like our axis will just be pointing to some empty spot in space between polaris and and some other stars so it's just kind of there wasn't one before right yeah we just got lucky that we have a north star we're in this time period that's so and think about all the all the exploring that's happened
Starting point is 02:25:02 in the last 500 years they were lucky enough to have in the Northern hemisphere to have this pretty easy to navigate by and easy to find. Cause the two dots in the bowl, part of the big dipper point to the North star. Wow. It's just kind of a cool, like I think about, yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:18 What would have been different in human history if there hadn't been one easy to find North star for the last 500 000 500 or a thousand years or so so i think that's that kind of shit's interesting everything's amazing people that's what i hear that calmed me down a little bit that was nice okay it's okay he'll be there for me for a while he'll be there for a while and then good good good good 13 000 years vega vega is one of the brighter stars in the sky and that will be the north star i think and that'll be there for a while. He'll be there for a while. And then 13,000 years. Vega is one of the brighter stars in the sky. And that will be the North Star, I think. And that'll be kind of cool in 13,000 years. I can't wait to see it.
Starting point is 02:25:51 After the water wars. What's that? After the water wars. After Kevin Costner drinks his own urine. Yeah. Find out he has gills. I drink his urine too. Guy's a good looking guy. Ag guy aging well by the way yeah indeed wow yeah this is another one where
Starting point is 02:26:13 i just got lost on the uh tell us what you're finding because my internet's still down so i'm just going off the dome also known as like the load star. It's like been known, you know, that there's also the steadfast star, like Shakespeare wrote about it. Oh, it has a name in pre-Islamic Arab astronomy. I'll do die, which means the kid in the sense of the juvenile, like a juvenile goat.
Starting point is 02:26:36 Oh yeah. By the way, most stars are Arabic names like that. They were the big early astronomers. And also, you know, algebra, that's an arabic word like tons of math and astronomy is yeah wild it's very algorithm all those words oh algorithm oh
Starting point is 02:26:53 wow yeah algorithm seriously these are all yeah yeah algorithm was my r&b name i did the ill ill-fated r&b group that i had just me wasn't really that's that's an inconvenient truth right there before i was the word burglar before i was the word burglar that was algorithm the word burglar and algorithm dude opening for uh rogue planet in the vastness of space opening for diggable planets true andets. And our bass player, our bass player, Theremin. He was along for most of it. He was a studio musician.
Starting point is 02:27:30 And your final pick, a lightning round. Just a real quick one. I just love looking out this window right here when there is any kind of rocket going off from Vandenberg Air Force Base. So watching rocket launches in the distance.
Starting point is 02:27:43 I'm still pro space programs, pro space travel. I know it's falling out of fashion, but watching a rocket launch at dusk in the Western horizon. Absolutely. I went to Cape Canaveral once to watch one and it got canceled at the 10 second countdown. Are you serious? Yes.
Starting point is 02:28:00 Damn, IBP. Ian was trying to get on. They wouldn't let you. Let's let it go. Now, so is that the space station or the whatever that when everyone in LA goes on Twitter
Starting point is 02:28:09 and they're like what's this and you're like it's a fucking rocket launch how many times it gotta happen for you to be like that's what happens
Starting point is 02:28:15 when they launch rockets exactly yeah and it's when it's usually at dusk so then like it's getting dark but it's high enough up that the sun's light
Starting point is 02:28:21 is still illuminating it's uh that's awesome all the stuff behind it. Yeah. Vandenberg up by like SLO area. David, your final pick.
Starting point is 02:28:30 Oh, the silence. Cause this all happens in silence. Oh yeah. Hold you down, huh? No one can hear you scream. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:39 It's just, no, I don't want to sound like a moron. If I was next to you and I was talking, you could hear me, right? No, no, not in space. See a moron. If I was next to you and I was talking, you could hear me, right? No. No, not in space.
Starting point is 02:28:47 See, that didn't calm me down at all. You need air for sound. Yeah. That is rocket. Sign language? Yeah. I only know this, baby. This is what I don't want to say anyway.
Starting point is 02:29:03 Sean, your final pick? Can I pick space stations? say. Sean, your final pick. Can I pick space stations? Yeah. I like space stations. I think it's cool that like, there's what? It's like 15 people living in space right now.
Starting point is 02:29:13 It's awesome. ISS. Actually, there's a website. You can go to how many people are in space right now.com or something like that. And it'll give you the number and list all their names. I could be wrong on this side, but there's, it's a fun thing.
Starting point is 02:29:25 It is. How many people are in space right now.com? How many? 10. There's 10? Okay, shit. Do they got normal names? Is there like a Jason up there?
Starting point is 02:29:35 Shout out to Kayla. What do you mean by normal names? Well, I don't know. You think they're going to be like Xenox and stuff. You know what I mean? Like space names. Well, I'll tell you, there's not one Xenox up in space right now i'll tell you who is kayla matthias thomas raja oleg denny sergey yay or i don't know that might be these are chinese people now so it might be guangfu
Starting point is 02:29:58 yapping and she's like aggressively normal in the real world space dude you gotta have a surrogate space yeah surrogate and oleg have been up there for 1152 days the longest yeah who's gonna help when he gets up there to get on the asteroid 1100 days or maybe i don't know if that's cumulative but yeah that says on this website they've been up there for 1100 days gentlemen's three years i if my if my math is correct and usually oh i think it's cute i think it's cumulative i think must be cumulative it's still impressive still yeah it looks like an olex too that's more time than i spent in college cumulative cumulative uh my final bit i'm taking the moon shout out to the moon dude how did it take this long for the moon yeah yeah just for a reason the fucking moon bro it's been it's been with us the whole time we've been here at least you know it's shaped like a lemon a lot of people don't know that i think
Starting point is 02:30:56 it's because of our gravity that was on it like when the moon was first formed it kind of made it look like a lemon it bulges at the the poles. And that's how it's, that's how it's always facing the same way. Cause it's tidally locked. Right. Yeah. We never see, we only see one side. I'm never getting Spotify.
Starting point is 02:31:15 That was the most fun thing I learned. I didn't know that. And I bet you, Laura doesn't either. And I'm going to go hit her with it in a second. That we've never seen the other side of the moon. That David's not going to Spotify. He's a title guy.
Starting point is 02:31:27 Now that the moon's like a lemon, dude, that's crazy. I didn't know that. Yeah. Shaped like a lemon. Shout out to the moon. And guys, by the way, if you just get a pair of like $30 Amazon binoculars, pretty cool.
Starting point is 02:31:42 If you want to stop short of the full telescope, just looking at the moon through binoculars pretty cool like if you want to stop short of the full uh telescope just looking at the moon through binoculars is pretty pretty dope i recommend i'm gonna do it tonight if the skies are clear because i have yeah pardon me a pair of 30 amazon uh binoculars that i got for looking at a different kind of moon baseball players baseball players butts yeah i think we got we got a waxing crescent that should be up till like 1 a.m i think so yeah so do most center fielders i'll tell you that all right to recap andy you went first you took the aurora borealis
Starting point is 02:32:18 and we and we mourn and we mourn your inability to have seen it. Here's us praying for another solar storm. Thank you. Beetlejuice, a supernova, Polaris, and rocket launches. David, you went second. You took the vastness of space, rogue planets, white holes, space brisket, the idea that there's all these familiar things up there, and the silence of outer space. Sean, you went third. You took black holes, the rings of Saturn, alternate realities, aliens,
Starting point is 02:32:46 and space stations. I'm just now realizing I forgot to take a second break, Isaac. I'm sorry. You'll figure that out. Ian, Carmel,
Starting point is 02:32:53 who forgot to take a second break, took Pluto, Jupiter, Buzz Aldrin, the overview effect, and the fucking moon, baby. Yep.
Starting point is 02:33:02 We left a bunch of great stuff. I mean, we left literally everything on the rest of space. There's a lot of great stuff i mean we left literally everything on the rest of space there's a lot of shit out there from what i've heard from vcrs to alpha centauri nothing else got drafted everything else is in space technically we want to hear your picks hit us up at all fantasy pod on twitter all fantasy podcast at gmail.com shout out to everyone on the afe patreon where we're doing auction drafts, mailbags, and the live episodes
Starting point is 02:33:28 will be coming out on there as well. So make sure you tune into that to hear just a bunch of wildness. You'll get to hear Ophelia, and I am guessing it's going to be Buck. I'm guessing. Probably you'll get to hear Ophelia. Probably. I'm going to record it on my phone.
Starting point is 02:33:45 Shout out to everyone on the AFE Shaslackery, the AFE subreddit. We undipped him the other day just to talk to the subredditors. It was a lovely exchange we all got to have with each other. I don't mean that sarcastically. Shout out to super producer Isaac Cayley. I really don't mean it sarcastically. I know you don't.
Starting point is 02:34:02 It's just, yeah. No, we didn't talk about it. I was there. I shouted to Isaac Cayley in an airplane right now over the sea. Shout out to St. Sue Carmel. Shout out to Frankie Ocean. Shout out to Sid the Dude. Shout out to Haja Beats. And more important than all of that, tune in again next week to another brand new episode of All Fantasy
Starting point is 02:34:18 Everything. Shacklackity! kitty. That was a hate gun podcast.

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