All Fantasy Everything - Parts of Songs That Give You Goosebumps (w/ Eliza Skinner and Miel Bredouw)

Episode Date: May 4, 2017

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This is a HeadGum Podcast. Welcome to another brand new episode of All Fantasy Everything. The podcast that... Oh, I didn't think of one of these beforehand. The pod... Oh, the podcast that leans against a beam just offstage right before a big concert and thinks about its entire life up until this moment all the relationships and and travel and situations and things and people that it's come across and in what seems like just a moment someone's entire life spools out in front of them and they and they look at it and say oh wow wow, what if we fantasy drafted some of

that? How was that? That felt good? I'm lost. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, we... I just wanted to know what band was playing that was so uninteresting that this person

wasn't paying attention. This is what I was going for. Was this podcast waiting to do its set at a show? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's what I thought. I was doing kind of like a...

I feel like this podcast... I feel like I worked with this podcast. Oh, man. Before they go and that's what I thought. I was doing kind of like a- I feel like this podcast, I feel like I worked with this podcast. Oh, man. Before they go into seven at the improv, everything that brought me here. I was going for the walk the line sort of thing. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So one foot was up on the wall.

Mm-hmm. Or one foot was up on the beam. One foot was up on the beam. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think history will remember that as one of the greatest intros of all time. And today, ladies and gentlemen, we are drafting parts of songs that give you goosebumps. That's what we're drafting today.

And joining me to do just that, we have Eliza Skinner. That's me. Stand-up comedian. Television writer. Sit-down TV watcher. Sit-down TV watcher. Former writer on so many things. I've been fired all over.

You've been fired all over. Well, you don't. No, you haven't. No, I have nothing. Adam Rohn's Everything, the late, late show with Jim Cromden. Yep. Love Jim Cromden. Jimmy Croms.

When he gets on his tractor and beatboxes with celebrities. The beatboxing tractorman. Jim Cromden, the beatboxing tractorman. He's on the tractor and the celebrity's jogging behind him. And they beatbox together. But they beatbox their own songs. That's the fun part. It's crazy.

How did no one think of it before? They're just like us. Head writer on the forthcoming television show Drop the Mic. Yes. Which is rap battles. It is. It's celebrities rap battling. Yeah.

Rap battling. Which echoes your own. It is. It's celebrities rap battling. Yeah. Rap battling. Which echoes your own personal show that you do live, which is called- Turned Up. Turned Up. Yeah. Which I would have remembered given three more seconds. I really would have. That's okay.

I was there for the assist. That's right. I've done your show. That's a sporting thing, right? Terribly. No. Didn't you win one time? No.

I came in second. Okay. So that's pretty good. It was all charisma. That's what the show is. Yeah, yeah. And that's honestly what most of rap is, too. That's a great point.

Very true. Yeah. It's so much about energy and charisma. It really is, yeah. It was also the first time I drank after like a month of dieting, so I was on one. We also have Miel Bredo joining us today. Hi. Hi.

What's up with you? What do you got going on? Miel, you're a stand-up comedian, writer, late of Vine. Oh. Late of Vine. Every time I hear that word now, just a little part of me dies. Popular on the Vine application. Yeah, very relevant.

Yeah. Very relevant right now. Now relegated to the on the Vine application. Yeah. Very relevant. Yeah. Very relevant right now. Now relegated to the dustbin of history. Yeah. A career over before it already began. Mm-hmm. Destined only to appear on this podcast occasionally. Yes, I only exist for this podcast.

I just disappear into the ether the moment I leave here. Did you just go to Europe? Yeah, I just got back. How was that? It was the tits. I went to Amsterdam, Paris, and Copenhagen. Oh, wow. And no disrespect, Denmark, but Copenhagen, not my fave.

Boring and real boring. Is it boring in Copenhagen? I only heard the best things. But when you were just there just now, was Tivoli, was it open? Yeah. See, it was closed when I was there. I went in March,

which is like the one month when it's closed. This is their weird little theme park, right? Yeah, the theme park is the second oldest theme park in the world. So it does not sound adorable.

The first oldest is the Bible. And it's right in the middle of town. Like you don't have to drive out to, you know, here, you always got to drive

out to some place. So yeah, it looked so charming. So when I was there, I would like peer through the gates. Some of the lights were still on. I was like, oh, it must be so much more interesting when that place is open. But apparently it's not. Well, listen, Tivoli was tight.

It was cheap. And I got to the front of every ride. But one of the rides in particular, I have no fear with rides. I'm down to try anything. I could do six flags all the time. It's the best. Yeah. You're always jumping off of bridges just to see what happens.

Yeah, totally. That's not a ride. That's just dangerous. Yeah, you know, anything to get me going, you know. And I went on this one that's like a plane, okay, on like an axis that just spins around it. Wow. Which sounds, okay, pretty basic pedestrian plane ride. Yeah.

Except then it starts going so unbelievably fast. Oh, no. That like the G-force of this ride is literally ripping your skin back off your face. Really? And then sustaining for like five minutes. Oh, that's like my favorite type of ride. Four times longer than any ride I've ever been on. And you're just doing the same thing over and over and over again.

That's like my favorite. I love those ones that stick you to the wall. Oh, those UFO ones? I like that too. You should draft rides. Oh, draft an amusement park. Oh, that must be great. New topic, man.

That must be great for drafting rides. The only way I survived that ride was just by focusing on one part of the sky and breathing through it. That's spotting in the dance world. Literally, I almost puked all over the 14-year-olds next to me who I'm fairly certain recognized me, which would have been that much worse if they ran home to their friend and were like, I rode next to that Vine girl and she fucking barfed on my head. And I had no app to capture it with.

It's so true. So anyway, Copenhagen was great. Yeah. It was a great time. That's funny. Copenhagen, least favorite. Amsterdam. I love Amsterdam.

Oh, it was the best. Smoking weed out in just the middle of a park in a foreign country is really, truly a special experience. There's a theme park right outside Amsterdam also. I'm blanking on the name. Kukenhof? No, that's the other thing that a lot of Disneyland is based on. Oh, really?

All the dark rides. Yeah, because it's like a fairy themed theme park. Like a boat? Hmm? Like fairy boats? No, no, like sprites. That makes more sense. Giant mushrooms that you stand under and feel small. Stuff like that.

Yeah. Yeah, Amsterdam is great. The weed part is amazing, but just the city is so cute. Yeah, it's like a little fairytale land. It's such a little fairytale land. Yeah, it's cute. It reminds me of, this is going to be such a me thing to say, but this podcast is going to be a bunch of me things to say.

It reminds me of like Portland with architecture and history. Okay. But just everyone's on bicycles and friendly. I think you're sucking the Portland D a little hard. Sure. A little hard. Portland's great. Don't get me wrong.

And it's canals instead of that great big river. So the little bridge is so cute. Right. You can just walk right over it and you're done. I'm right. Everyone agrees with me. I don't know. Excellent.

At Miel on Twitter, do you have anything to promote? No. Anything coming up? Not really. Oh. Just continuously working and nothing that I can really brag about. Just continue. You've been doing videos on YouTube and stuff now, too, though, right?

I've been seeing some of that. Yeah. I mean, do you promote that? I feel like that's kind of weird to be like, watch my YouTube channel. Not at all. It's weird if you say it like that. Use your regular voice. No, use your regular voice. Don't turn into a grandpa.

Watch my YouTube channel. Yes. It feels wrong. No, it wasn't. They'll fix it in post. Yeah, thanks. He wasn't, oh god, was the he wasn't oh god Jonathan he wasn't Jeffrey Jeffrey

yeah that's my fucking favorite thing it's just this weird that sounds like bragging I'm sorry you guys are so much more successful than me I really shouldn't

be saying this but it's just this weird series I came up with that's like a woman starting to make some horrible wordplay on whatever beautiful thing she's

looking about how she's miserable and how she should've stayed at home but like a socialite like an older socialite. Yeah. She has some weird, like, unplaceable, vaguely British accent. And she's like, you know, well, if I wanted to see ruins, I would have stayed in my last

marriage, Jeffrey. And then she turns to her husband, presumably, to be like, why'd you take me here? And she realizes it's not her husband. And then she scolds this man who was trying to take a picture of the beautiful ruins. And that's just, I've done it like 15 times it's right up my alley it's very difficult to explain it is

but check it out probably don't watch it it's very funny I'm trying Eliza Skinner at Eliza Skinner with an E on Twitter

yes and what's coming up with you I'm gonna be in Portland for Bridgetown next weekend hell yeah same here yeah so come on see see me. I will have the rap battle with me. I'll be doing that.

I'm also doing a whole bunch of other fun shows. You can find that info on that website. Yeah, on the Bridgetown website. Bridgetown Comedy, I think. Bridgetown, Bridgetown Comedy dot Portland is like a more modern version of Amsterdam dot com. Yeah, you know it. Yeah, well, we should get to the podcast.

Oh, what do I have coming up? I'll be at Bridgetown. Really? Yeah, I'll be at the Bridgetown. Shut up. I'll be at the Bridgetown Comedy Festival doing stand-up comedy and various other things. I'm doing the goddamn comedy jam. Oh, I'm so jealous. Why don't they book me for that?

It's crazy that you haven't been booked for it. He's sexism. It's really weird. Do you want to show up in an Ian suit and tear it off and then just do my performance? Yep. Yes, I do. Okay, great. So I'm doing that and then stand up and we're doing this live podcast on Sunday at the Bossa

Nova Ballroom. You can't buy tickets advance because it's part of the festival. If you have a pass, you can get in, but you can stand in line. There's tickets at the door and I'm 100% sure you'll be able to get them. That's going to be so fun. Yeah. It's a of the festival. If you have a pass, you can get in, but you can stand in line. There's tickets at the door, and I'm 100% sure you'll be able to get them. That's going to be so fun. Yeah, it's a real big venue, so you'll be able to get in. Make sure you check that out.

In Portland on Sunday, me recovering from a Molly hangover. It's going to be a hell of a podcast. I mean, that's true of you every day. Every single day. I do Molly every night now. Puts you to sleep. I'm here for a good time,

not a long time. So let's get to the podcast. Today we are drafting parts of songs that give you goosebumps. Do some people say, do either of you say goose pimples? No. Gross. I hate when people say that. That's a goose that needs to be washed.

Right? I don't like that at all. That's like a gross gutter punk goose with like a lip ring. Yeah. Because a goose bump doesn't have pus in it. It doesn't. A pimple inherently has pus in it. But you've heard goose pimple, right?

Not only by you right now. I have, but I don't like it. I don't like it either. And also, it makes you think of like a plucked goose specifically, which I'm sure that's what Goosebumps is also, but Goosebumps makes me think of a delightful YA

series of books. Spooky books. Spooky books. I just blew my first pick, so that's fine. I'm guessing it's Midwestern. Was a recorded audio version of R.L. Stine's

The Night of the Living Stay Out of the Basement. Goose pimples must be a Midwestern thing. Yeah. Everything that's weird, I'm like, that's the Midwest.

They're all pop, lutefisk, you know? Forget about it. That's all they say. Pap. Marissa, the Canadian producer, goose pimples or goosebumps goosebumps all right fantastic uh okay well let's get to the let's get to the draft to determine the order of the draft which is again a serpentine which means if you have the third pick in the first round you have the first pick in the second round the two of you miel Eliza, will play a game of rock, paper, scissors. You go on shoot, and whoever

wins determines the order of the draft. Here we go. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot! Double rocks. Let's do it again. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot! I smash her. Eliza smashes Miel's rock, and Eliza, you get to pick the draft order. Alright.

And which way does it start? Do I determine that? It can be, you can go first, Let's make it clockwise. Let's have it start with you. All right. Ian Carmel will go first,

which means, and then, so you'll go second? Mm-hmm. Eliza Skinner goes second. And Miel Bredel, who specifically didn't want to go first or third.

I just don't want to pick two in a row. Oh, sorry. Several times. That's why you got to get your rock, paper, scissors game going. I know, I fucked up. You should have practiced. Oh, goddammit.

I've been in training for weeks. I assumed he would ask me to do this at some point. She was at the bouldering gym with a notebook and some picking shears. With my trainer. Actually, I got my nose pierced by a rock, paper, scissors champion. Did you really? True story. The second he told me that, I was like, oh, I trust you.

You're going to do a great job. It's someone with good judgment. Yeah. And also who can like act decisively. Oh, yeah. Which you need when you're getting pierced. No, he killed it. Yeah.

Great needle through my nose hole. Good. Good. Needle through my nose hole. That sounds like a grunge song from the 90s a little bit. Please don't blow my third pick. Yeah. Like one of the bands that like only had like a year, you know?

Or like a Talking you know like a like a like a talking heads lyric could be yeah yeah yeah RIP Jonathan Demme or who's the in the bathroom

like needle in the nose hole just you and you guys someone out there knows what I'm talking about not the name or title and you are something it's I something it's

I think it's on the soundtrack to gross point blank someone out there knows what I'm talking about knows I'm an idiot say it ain't so I will not go that's what you're thinking

needle through the nose hole needle through the nose hole yeah yeah yeah I'm really sorry speaking of which no needle through the nose hole

in your soul no okay oh yeah yeah I can't pee they might be trying it's almost like you freestyle by the light-needled through the nose hole in your soul. No, okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't pee. They might be trying to. It's almost like you freestyle. By the light switch. With a needle through the nose hole.

Dorks. Nothing but dorks on today's podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for the first pick of the parts of songs that give you goosebumps. Oh, God. All fantasy, everything. I have goosebumps right now. I do, too. Wait. I'm so nervous. No, no, no. All fantasy, everything. I have goosebumps right now. I do, too. Wait.

I'm so nervous. No, no, no. That's arm hair. All right. So with the first pick, I am going to take the song. It's called Wake Up. The band is The Arcade Fire from 2004 or 5 is when it came out. And it's the...

First of all, let me just say this. This is going to be, most of these are just like full bullshitty sort of drafts. But like parts of songs that give you goosebumps. Wildly personal. Sometimes it's wildly personal. Yeah. And it feels upsettingly revealing. It does.

And I'm like not regretting. I should have just been like some rap song. Yeah, exactly. I guess, just been like, some rap song. Yeah, exactly. I guess, you know, lose yourself. The first part. The second choice. The second part, lose yourself. Every time he says mom spaghetti. But it is, it's the

part where he says, children wake up, hold your mistake up before they turn the summer into dust. If the children don't grow up, our bodies get bigger before they turn the summer into dust. If the children don't grow up, our bodies get bigger, but our hearts get torn up.

We're just a million little gods causing rainstorms, turning every good thing to rust. And then he's like, I guess we'll just have to adjust. I can't sing the part. But then it just goes right into it. You know that song? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I saw Where the Wild Things Are. Yeah, yeah. Oh, is that in Where the Wild Things Are? Oh, God. Well, it's definitely in the preview. The trailer, yeah. That's really good. Every time I hear it, I'm just like, oh.

Did you identify the words when you first heard it, or did you have to look it up and get that second goosebumps? I immediately got, immediately, well, actually, I never knew the word just a million little gods causing rainstorms until this morning when I looked it up and it got me even worse. Because I just heard the turning every good thing to rust, I guess we'll just have to adjust. That just feels like such an apt description of going from the innocence of childhood into turning into an adult. And then, when we're just a million little gods causing rainstorms, I was like, we do it to ourselves.

And to each other. These are grandiose thoughts. It really is. In an Arcade Fire song. I know. And it's such a, it's so anthemic, which for me is like, that's just like a bullet train to my heart. Yeah. Like anthems, songs where like a bunch of people sing it once and it feels like.

And it's like, we're trying to be alive. Yeah. We're just little people. We are. We're just doing our best. Acknowledging our insignificance. Yeah. Then the line, our bodies get bigger, but our hearts get torn up.

Oof. Oh my God. Come on. Get out of here with that it's i don't yeah i that will how are we supposed to go on exactly uh that makes me want to change what well okay well let's uh yeah so that song that is a song i will if i if i if it comes on i'm like my mix on spotify.. Are you sponsored? No. Spotify, get on this.

Yeah, get on it. At least give me the free premium membership. But when that comes on in the car, I will sing along to it so hard. Because you don't have to have a good voice to do the like. You just have to be into it. You just have to commit. And I commit hard to the point where like after one full section of that, I'm like, I should stop for a second. Take a couple deep breaths.

I'm going to crash. Yeah. I'm afraid that that's how I'll die is by singing Wake Up Too Hard in my car. But what a way to die. It would be a great way to die. Can you imagine your life slipping from your body as just coursing you into heaven? I hope that's what song plays. That's like the waiting room music.

Maybe you go to heaven, and the gates open, and that song starts playing, and you're like, it truly is heaven. But then it's just that over and over again, and like in three years, you're like, all right.

What if instead it's Fergalicious? Oh, I would also be okay with that. Tell him, Fergie. You know what? Fergie gets fucking slept on. Is that your pick, Eliza? No. But it's my pick for what will take my soul to heaven.

It's Fergalicious. It's a solid pick. Yeah, my body's so delicious. Where it's like that, you got me dripping, stumbling. Clumsy. Yeah, clumsy. Clumsy, cause I'm falling in love. It's better dripping, stumbling. Clumsy. Yeah, clumsy. Clumsy because I'm falling in love. It's better than MILF money.

Way better than MILF money. Not as good as London Bridge. I like it more than London Bridge. So I think we're just drafting Fergie now. What's a glamorous? I'm going to have to go with glamorous. Oh, okay. Well, look, we each have our favorites.

But that's just because I'm flossy. I just like that that beat is so cool. Like, boop, boop. It is. Yeah, and now we're way off track. Sorry. I'm so sorry. So these songs will not be played on this, right?

No, we'll hear them. Oh, great. Okay, all right. Because I was like, should I just switch to lyrical things? No, no, no, no. We'll definitely. Yeah, if it's like key changes or whatever it is that gets you there,

we'll definitely hear them. All right. But that's my pick. Wake up, buy the Arcade Fire. It's a solid pick. Just feeling all sorts of ways

about getting older now, which seems to be happening at a later and later date. Wait, you're getting older at a later date? No, no, no, no, no. My birthday moves one day back every year. Every day I wake up and I feel a little bit older than I did yesterday.

No, I just mean like, I don't know if every generation felt like this, but it certainly seems like with our generation is that adulthood is the thing that happens next year. Yeah. You know? Do you mean to just gesture that perhaps we are the first generation to think we're getting older? No, no, no. That we're not getting – that it's like – That we're permanently children. That we're going to get old.

That we're not currently getting older, but we're about to. That's probably true. We're so privileged, dude. We really – yeah. Both privileged and burdened. Like if you – if we didn't have like such crippling student loan debt and houses didn't – like the price of houses didn't fire up, maybe I would be living in the suburbs with a wife and a kid. But we also didn't get sent to war yet. So we kind of got to stay kids for a long time.

That's a good point, too. Yeah. But I think that's how everybody always feels. I think every generation. I hope so. That's the cliche. You feel like you're 25 inside forever. Yeah.

Can I talk about one that I'm not picking for this in reaction to that? I think so. Yeah. um i one of the can i talk about one that i'm not picking for this in reaction to that i think so uh i considered send in the clowns by the glennis johns version because it was originally written for glennis johns i had to google glennis johns to find that um but it was what i love about sondheim is he takes people's voices and he doesn't blame them he just writes for them yeah and so it's that's why these little short phrases isn isn't it rich? Aren't we a pair? But that song is all about the like, that you like, I was listening to it. And I'm like, this gets me doesn't get me enough. But like, it gets me because it's not. It talks about how as you grow older, you don't get better at love.

Yeah. You just get the same and maybe stupider. And I was like, we're never gonna figure this out, humans! I felt that so hard. I just got goosebumps from your description of it. It's like that Halsey Chainsmokers song. Right. We ain't never getting older. Yeah. You know?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know. Yeah. So, tale's oldest time. Yeah. How many different songs can we reference? Okay. But none of these count as picks. No, so, Tales Old as Time. Yeah. How many different songs can we reference? Okay. But none of these count as picks. So back to our picks.

Unless somebody wanted to take that holiday. What if somebody did? What is Oakland Halsey? I'm choosing the Coldplay Chainsmokers. Halsey seems fine, but the Chainsmokers, get out of here. Yeah, that's what I'm like trying to remember the other Chainsmokers song to be like, well, the one that really gets me. No, it's the Coldplay one.

Yeah, that's my fourth pick. What's their album called? It's like Memories Do Not Open? It's called Don't Hang Out With These Guys When You're Too Drunk At A Party because they're definitely going to do something bad to you. That is exactly the vibe. You just fucking nailed that vibe. Their album is called

Whoops, I Didn't Mean To Send You That Dick Pick. I Was Gonna Send That To Someone Else, But What Do You Think? Their album is called, whoops, I didn't mean to send you that dick pic. I was going to send that to someone else. That was a joke. But what do you think? I'm really sorry for screaming into the microphone. We're all such fools. We'll send in the clowns. All right, Liza Scannell with the second pic.

Second pic. I'm going to roll it back. Let's take the heat off. We're still getting goosebumps, but we're taking this emo heat off. Okay, emo heat. I'm going to go with the. Let's take the heat off. We're still getting goosebumps. We're taking this emo heat off. Okay. I'm going to go with the Baker Street horn. Oh, shit. That's so good.

I'm going to go with the... It just jams. I do songs like drugs. You know what I mean? Sure. You listen to a bunch? Well, yes just jams. And I'm just like, I do songs. Hairy Rafferty. Yeah, I do songs like drugs. You know what I mean? Sure. You listen to a bunch. Well, yes, tons. Until my family's like, you're not allowed to do that anymore.

And I'm like, you don't own me. You're ruining yourself. Yeah, no, like there's certain songs that they just, like they just trigger some feeling in me so strongly. And I think that, I assume that's how everybody is. Yes. Right? Yeah.

And they're like, ooh, I want that's how everybody is, right? Yeah. And they're like, ooh, I want to dig a hit of that Baker Street. For real. That is like a hit. It's really strong. I'm like, I got shit to do. I don't know if I could listen to Baker Street right now. I'll sink right into it.

God. It all builds up to it, too. When I was at my desk at the Late Late Show and people were like, oh, is this working really hard on something? Always just listening to Baker Street. Every day, all day. Just getting fucked up on Baker Street. Liza, do you get your jokes in for emoji?

She's obviously in the middle of something. Yeah, no, I'm working hard on something. It's an inappropriate rap music fuck. It's for Chris Pine. It's the Battle of the Chris's. Yeah, it's a parody of Baker Street. No, it's just Baker Street.

I love Baker Street so much. I have no idea what this song is about. You know what I love about that song is the rest of it is so... It's just real calm. I don't know this song. Oh, you for sure do. I've heard the solo you just sang, the horn section, and I don't know any of the rest of it. Is there singing in it?

Yeah. I love the words. You're crying now. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I didn't get goosebumps from that. This doesn't fuck around. Shit.

Was that like a timpani? It was building harmony that goes into the horn. Who sings it? Jerry Rafferty. Who the fuck is that? He's the guy who does Baker Street. It's like a circular question. You should have been here for the one hit wonders.

That's a fucking killer choice. I wonder if that is a one hit wonder. I don't know. I don't know either. It's a fucking hit. Yeah, it's a banger. I hope it was a hit. Oh man, that's a good one. It is. It's still a hit. The build up gets you anytime. But I love how the rest of the song is placid and really even. But that's why it gives you goosebumps. Yeah. Because it comes out of fucking nowhere.

Right. And then the dub bass drops. And then, yeah, yeah. The sax drop way before EMD music. Yep, gotta get that sax drop in there. It's like, this is a very crude comparison. It's like a sex thing? It's a penis thing. Oh, okay.

The carrots of the earth. Some dudes were like, I trim the pubes so it makes my dick look bigger. You know what I mean? Sure, sure, sure. So this song, they basically have trimmed... It musically trims the pubes so it makes my dick look bigger. You know what I mean? Sure, sure, sure. So this song, they basically have trimmed the pubes and then the sax solo, which was already a huge dick, by the way. Just a big sweaty dick. Because it already was.

But it looks even bigger because the rest of the song... Now I'm scared of the sax solo. It's too big. It's too big. I don't know if it can fit. It's like good for you, but maybe once. Front stuff only. If the rest of the song would have been like tubas and big drums and stuff like that.

Yeah, it would have been like calm down. Yeah. The sax solo wouldn't have like been, but like the rest of it is just like, it all is built around. It's the tent pole. Yeah. Oh, I'm thinking about fucking a sax now. That's way too good.

I feel like this song is why sax was sexy in the 80s. Because there's no real other reason. I mean, it's definitely not. It's definitely not Lost Boys. That, I think, is what people normally point to. But that came after, right? It came after, but now looking back.

I think Careless Whisper was really the sexy sax. That probably came out first, though. Baker Street, right? I think that was actually late 70s. Shit! The sax had got way too much sex in the 80s. It really did.

I mean, like, sax, you know, maybe it was meant to be. There was a point where Kenneth G was sexy. Do you know Kenneth G? Kenneth G. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From my elementary school class. Kenneth G.

We had four Kenneths. So there was Kenneth G, there was Kenneth P, Kenneth L, Kenneth R. And Shack is Slovakian Kenneth. Yeah. Well, Big Kenneth. Yeah, Big Kenneth. Big Kenneth. Big Kenny.

Oh, there was Kenny also. Oh, yeah, McKenny. Yeah, yeah. Kenward. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Kendrick Lamar you went to grade school with. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Kenneth G, who now plays on airliners. Yeah, he does play. That's what they're called. Airliners. Kenneth G takes who now plays on airliners. Yeah, he does play on airliners. That's what they're called. Airliners. Kenneth G. takes to the sky. Wave for the people, Kenneth. There he is.

Say hello, everyone. That seemed way meaner to me than any of the other incidents reported. Which one? Kenny G. busting out the office? Being forced to listen to Kenny G. on your flight. Man. I mean, it's not as bad as getting you two forced on your phone. That's true.

That popped up in my shuffle the other day and I was like, I'm an assault. I guess we'll just have to adjust. So, yeah. Baker Street. That's my pick. That's a strong choice. That is an amazing pick. Thank you. Yes. Yes. Miel Bredow. Oh my god. It is time for your first pick. The third pick. Yeah. Fuck. I can't

have to choose two in a row right now because every choice is such like an emotional burden. I haven't been saying anything this whole time because I'm just so anxious. We can burn some sage in between your picks if you want. Yeah, honestly, I feel like I need to air it out for a quick... Okay. All right. Okay.

I think I have to just like... A little backstory first. I'm trying to diversify my picks because if I truly went for what gave me like the most goosebumps, I think they would all be musical theater. That's allowed. It's a safe space for them. I definitely have some musical theater. For me, I feel like it's kind of an unfair advantage because musical theater inherently has a whole storyline. So it might not just be the musical goosebumps that you're really reacting to.

It might be a story arc. It might be a story arc. It might be a story arc. It might be a performance thing. So I was like, I'm only going to allow myself one. Performance things count, I think. They do. I agree. But.

You all got to play by your own rule book. So I respect it. For my rules, I'm like, I'm going to allow myself one. Yeah. And that made it extremely hard because I'm a fucking theater kid. So I was like, okay. But if there's one fucking song that every single time I hear it, and I don't even know if I can choose one part.

I think I can. Okay. It would be, I am telling you, the Jennifer Holliday version from fucking Dreamgirls. Oh, yeah. When she gets up there and- If anyone, by the way, is questioning the version that you've chosen, you can just turn off this podcast right now and walk into the ocean because no one needs you. Honestly, you're not speaking harshly.

That's a fact. No, it's just a fact. I just wanted to support you on that. If you ever, if you don't know it, look up like a YouTube video of her performing it. Yes. Oh my God.

Her Tony performance is very easy to find on YouTube. Oh my God. Oh my God. Honestly, I get like, honestly, right now, all my hair is standing up thinking about her going.

And I am telling you See, right now, all my hair is standing up thinking about her going. And she's fucking shaking. I mean, her whole body is in this right now. And then at the end, she's given it everything. She's fucking doubled over from just singing. Like, I don't know how else to describe this. And then she's like, You're gonna love me. Me. And she just lets it go. Me

And she just lets it go And she goes even fucking higher And it's not a pretty note It's not a pretty note But it Cause it's not a pretty moment It's not It's like

It's like an ugly cry She's saying You're gonna love me To the person who's leaving her I mean you're like I mean It's just I can't

I'm fucking speechless About this moment And this goddamn song I I can't think I'm fucking speechless about this moment and this goddamn song. I can't think of a song that more adequately gives you goosebumps than this fucking song. I just Googled a picture. I just Googled it and seeing the picture of her singing it mid-sang, like you said, with an A. Oh my God. It got me a little goosebumps.

I mean, imagine being the person she sings that to every night. And that actor too, her counterpart in that scene just has to stand there looking at her. While she just screams at him. What do you do? Do you think I'm like this? I mean, I just like every part of it. You're like, I can't watch this. Even if you're in a happy relationship, it makes you just be like, almost want to be in a bad relationship.

I don't know, because you're just, you feel it. You can't, I don't care if you've never, if you're fucking celibate. You've watched this moment and you're like, I know. I fucking know. I used to have an assignment. I used to teach musical improv. And one of the assignments was for the students to go and watch Tony performances. And I gave them a few specific ones to watch.

And this was one of them. And I had one student once who went and watched them at the public library. And so he has his little headphones in the library and he starts this video and somebody walking by taps him and is like, is that Jennifer Holliday singing? And I'm not going. And I'm telling you. And he was like, yeah. And the guy like sat down and watched it with him.

I love this. Oh, I love this. Yeah. It's like if you can watch that and not feel something that's the test of a true sociopath honestly it's just a physical reaction i think it's called frision it fucks me up every time and i know that it's bad because when i was like rehearsing my list if you will i was like researching i watched the tony performance just to remind myself and my boyfriend who is completely

not into musical theater in fact I would say he's anti into musical theater sat down and watched he walked by with a football helmet on

and a tennis racket right yeah gotta go do important stuff babe exactly he walks up and he just sat down

and he watched the entire performance and did not say a fucking word. And there's a couple moments where it drags, right? Sat there, dead, eyes glued to the screen

and by the end of it, he was weeping and I was like, that is the power of this performance. So I want that. I'm drafting that fucking point. You got it. Thank you so much

for letting me have this. Jennifer Holland and then Jennifer Hudson did it later, right? She did it good. She did it good. She did it good she did it good she did it she did it well

but there's just no one can can touch that Jennifer Holliday yeah I mean I'm pretty sure it was written for Jennifer Holliday

it was oh god Henry Krieger wrote it and she was original cast so yeah I think it's pretty it was written for her

and kind of like I was saying with the Stephen Sondheim it's just like they were able to use every aspect of her and what she can do and her performance and her voice and just bring it out in the song and it's so technically difficult yeah i mean that's the other thing i can't approach any of these songs no it's pretty easy to karaoke a lot of people do it

like i think that's a whole nother thing and i'm sure eliza you're the same way like if you know how hard that is yeah you you almost have a whole nother thing. And I'm sure, Eliza, you're the same way. Like, if you know how hard that is, you almost have a whole nother way to get goosebumps. You're watching like a master at work. You know that when someone's singing that. Oh, my God. Yeah. It's like watching Russell Westbrook dunk. Exactly like that, right?

Exactly like that. Yeah, babe. Yeah. Totes. Oh, I see what this is. You get it. Yeah. You get it.

This is sort of like when the New England Patriots intercepted that pass on the one yard line. Sure, sure, sure. Are we talking about planes? Yeah. Honestly, I fuck with trains. Yeah. For sure. Yeah, I get that, bro.

Fucking choo-choo, motherfucker. Yeah, I love trains. Amazing. Part of Dreamgirls. That's definitely a goose bumps-y ass song. I don't have a lot to say about it, as I have not seen this performance yet. You're in for a treat. Immediately after recording this, watch that video.

I don't know if I'm in an emotional place for it. That's fair. That's fair. Totally fair. I might need to go home and pour like a bottle of wine. No, you can't. You can't see it yet. Yeah.

I need a week or two. Oh, man. Maybe after Bridgetown. I cannot believe I have to go again right now. I know. I know. I will never forgive you for this. My mad genius.

You sound a lot like Wario. Thank you. That's what my mom says. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm going to choose my pick for my second pick that I feel like is a good transition pick.

I want a good segue. I want this to be like a coherent list. Sure. Some cohesion there. So I'm going to go Prince. And I had tossed around this for a long time, but I'm ultimately settling on Kiss. And if I may, there are two moments in the song.

I would choose one over the other if we can only draft one part. But then I would give the honorable mention to the very beginning. Oh, yeah, that noise. Oh, God. And if you kind of maybe imagine it as just like an uh, but if you really listen to it, it's uh. Yeah, he can. Oh, he comes right at the top of the microphone.

Fully into the microphone. He needs only a moment to get back into the song. And honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he started, you know, the whole process of coming only from. Yeah. He knew how good the song was about to be. Yeah, exactly. It's like, what's his fucking face? Run, Jeremy and porn.

I can just like come on command. I think Prince can come. Can Ron Jeremy do that? That's why you're not allowed to say come to run Jeremy. It's in his rider. Stop doing that, kids. Now I gotta go home and change my pants again. say, come to run Jeremy. It's in his rider. Dang it, stop doing that, kids. Now I gotta go home

and change my pants again. Oh my God. That's how, if he's ever in front of you in line at like a Disneyland or Antiques Roadshow, just yell

come and there you're up one extra person. Can we tweet come at him? Do you think that would work? Damn it. He can't be on

social media. Just fucking ruin his pants. I'm trying to read a book, you dang kids! When that Butterfly song by Crazy Town came out, he couldn't even see it in public. Is that Come Come My Lady? Come Come My Lady! He's like, no!

Twice in a row! It was like thinner happened to him. He just kept getting smaller and smaller. His balls just absorbed into his body. I am the stupidest thing. Listen, is that true? Doubtful.

But similar to that legend, I think Prince maybe just, he started getting kind of horny at the top of the four notes of guitar and then fully came by the end. Because that just seems like Prince to me. It really is kind of a it's kind of a weird simpy noise

when you think about it because it's Prince. It's very vulnerable. It's not like it's like a Talk about an exercise in confidence and charisma. Prince was like this is exactly how somebody's supposed to be and we were all like dang it he's right. That's why that part gives me goosebumps as well because you're just like oh my god he did it yeah fuck it okay like it's this confidence

thing and also it's like so sexy because prince is just like the most fuckable person well previously i should say the most fuckable person in the world but even for six months after he was in the top 100 parade is a is an amazing album that's what from Parade, right? I don't know. I believe it is, which was the soundtrack to Under the Cherry Moon. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it also has that sometimes it snows in April.

There's another kind of goose bumpy song. Oh, yeah. A sad goose bumpy. The part that really gives me the goosebumps is after the bridge, right? Actually, name not your shoe size, whatever, blah, blah, blah. And then he drops it down a whole octave to go yeah and he fucking comes all the way up to full-on screaming whereas in the previous parts of the same section he was kind of more like a head voice like a falsetto yeah last part he just comes into a full screen and then the real best part,

I just fucking, fucking, shrieking. All stank. Oh my God. I can't listen to that and not like, honestly, one tear

falls out of my right eye every time and I listen to that song a lot. It fucks up my makeup constantly. It's like putting a bouquet in a blender and just like,

with a fork. It's like, this is beautiful, but it's so good. It's a beautiful assault. And then how he resolves, what does he do? He drops it all the way back down to his low register. He's like, kiss. And you're just like, oh my God, I feel like he came again. At the end of the song.

Because I certainly fucking did. Then he goes make some pancakes. Yeah, and then he's just like, cool, so what do you want to do today? You're just like, what the fuck, Prince? Every time you think you found a shitty Prince song or a lukewarm Prince song, listen to it again.

And you'll be like, oh, fuck. I just didn't get it. I meant that that was the best song. I was wrong. It's ridiculous. Yeah, I fuck with that ridiculous I yeah I went through a real cream face recently

cream get on top cream yep yeah cream that's another Prince song

yeah I first thought you meant the band cream no no one goes through a cream face or a bread face

but bat dance oh yeah that's real garbage. And then you listen to it again, and you're like, you know what? I fucking love it. I love it. It's the best you can do with an officially licensed Batman song. Mickey Bale? Mickey Bale?

And I think even if it is a horrible song objectively, knowing that it's Prince already makes it less horrible. Batdance. Yeah. What's the confidence thing? It's like Prince wouldn't fuck up. And he's fucking trying something. Such a weird, like, I don't know, stack that next to your Dick Tracy Madonna album.

Yeah. Is there anyone doing that right now where we're like, go ahead and be weird and we'll bear with you. Maybe Lady Gaga. Yeah. Gaga. Gaga. Yeah, I guess so.

Yeah. But even then, I feel like she's still not quite at Prince level of like freak flag. Well, and, you know what? I'll change my name. Are you? No, I thought that was my I'm done for a while. I'll switch my list a little bit. Okay, cool. And as far as an answer your question. Eliza said let's get a second pick. Second pick.

Nicki Minaj's Breakdown and Anaconda. Oh! Yeah. Yeah. are you skinny bitches when she's when she's just like i'm just like fucking yeah nikki minaj you just make sounds and it's good enough she does you weren't like i should write something for this part you're like no just me just it's so visceral and like uh like i don't want to say female, but like womanly. Yeah.

It's fucking cool. I love it. It has made me cry before. She's so her. Yeah. She's just being her. I love it. I love it.

She's so she's so good at that. Just weird. And it's like an evil laugh in there. It's stuff that doesn't have to go through your brain to make sense. It's just right from your ears to your brain stem. Yeah, it's kind of primal.

And it's like, it's just us. You stay up there. We don't need you. Ears to butt. Yeah. Ears to butt. She makes ears to butt music. It's true though.

It's just like you hear a sound or like a certain cadence and you're just like, ooh, what's happening? I feel it. I don't even have to know what the fuck she's talking about.

And she just rides the beat in such an atypical way there, too. Yeah. Where it's just like, fuck the traditional, you know, rhyme structure. Yeah, she sort of syncopates it. Are you skinny bitches in the club? Fuck the skinny bitches. Fuck the skinny bitches in the club. I want to see all the big fat ass bitches in the motherfucking club.

Fuck you if you skinny bitches. What? Right, that part? Yeah. That is awesome. And she drops it in the middle of this huge pop song, too. Yep. Because she does make, you know.

She should still be making your ass dance there. Yeah. And she was like, you know what? I'm going to do this for a second. Fuck it, yeah. Whatever. I love that. And the weird alien voices she does and all that stuff, too.

She plays three different characters on that one verse in Monster. She gets my spine. Ears to butt. I've cried at way too many Nicki Minaj songs that are not meant for crying. Pound the Alarm. I'm a bad bitch, no muzzle. I almost can't say I'm a bad bitch, no muzzle without getting choked up, which is a ridiculous thing. I know what you mean.

But I am, I'm a bad bitch, no fucking muzzle. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I mean, certainly it's not my place to comment on it, but it's nice that there can be that message without like the haughtiness that is traditionally. on it but it's nice that there that can be that message without like the haughtiness that is traditionally with the way people need to like communicate that message from like a platform it can like that it's in the middle of a fucking like dope ass pop song bottle sip bottle guzzle i'm a bad bitch no muzzle um and bees in the trap like bitches ain't shit in the ain't like i mean i could just do a whole dickie minaj thing but that part of Anaconda, I feel like, is just a really boiled down part of it.

A version of that best part of her. And that's why it's so, when people don't include her in the best rappers alive list. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. How are you measuring that? It's really what I want to know. Well, that's exactly, because people get into the, I don know, like words per minute or how dexterous their rhymes are. Okay, so what? Watsky's the best rapper of all time?

What are you trying to fucking tell me? Just – if they speak to your soul, that's what it is for me. Well, and people also are always like, well, but she didn't – she doesn't write it. She's secretly not writing it, which – okay, first of all, that's what people always say about women. Yep. Like a woman writes or creates something remarkable. It must have been a man secretly did it. Okay, first of all, that's what people always say about women. Like, a woman writes or creates something remarkable, it must have been

a man secretly did it. Even Remy Mag, like crabs in the barrel type shit. Second of all, even the places in which that is true, what artist is that

not fucking true of? That's like the entire history of music. Everybody has had other people writing some of their, if not all of their songs. I mean, nobody is writing all

of Nicki Minaj's songs, but like that's part of it. It's totally discarding the entire skillmanship, sure, of having to actually perform that. It's insane to keep that rhythm and to be able to fucking enunciate any of those words. Are you kidding? Like I've tried to do

this monster at home in my bedroom and I fuck it up half the time. Can you imagine doing that in front of a stage when you're dancing and shit? No, you have to be Adele. I mean, Nicki Minaj. Actually, I hate that. There's one of those memes that'll go around, and the people love to do it with, like, Beyonce, right? Where they'll list, like, the 14 songwriters. It's Beyonce versus Beck.

Yeah. That they were like, this is how many people created the Beck album. Just one, Beck. This is how many people created Beyonce album. It's called Money.

And it's also, why is it not good to be able to collaborate with people? Right, who cares? It's a very traditionally feminine thing to create art

through collaboration. Yeah. And so it's, I think, really low-key misogynistic to shit on people for it. Plus, and when have you been sitting there like, how many people

were involved in this? Yeah. It gives a fuck. Well, and also, like, maybe nobody wants, is it, or, Beck, you proud nobody wants to work with you?

Yeah. And he's like, I can't be in a studio with that guy. Well, Beck didn't ask anyone to make that list, right? It's always, always, always,

like, you can't compare those two because Beck is a singer-songwriter. Beyonce is a singer. Yeah. So, of course, she's going to have a songwriter. Beyonce is a force. Yeah. So of course she's going to have songwriters. Beyonce is a force. A force.

Yeah. Of course. And like even the writing credits she gets are, I mean, from my music insider knowledge, mostly undeserved. She gets that. It's part of her contract. If you want to sell Beyonce a song, she has to get a writing credit. But Beck, that's his whole skillmanship.

Is he as good of a singer? No. But he can write some pretty good songs, I guess. So like to try to compare the two by number of writers, OK, compare them by singing ability. Like, what the fuck are you doing? And no one's stopping Beck from working with Sway Lee from Ray Shrever. Like, fine, go ahead and bring him. I'm sure he did on that terrible fucking song he just released.

Oh, I haven't heard it. It sounds like Miley Cyrus. It's very weird. Beck's a big fan of this podcast, Miel. You know what? He listens to it in his weird vegan castle. Beck, Scientology Castle. Oh, that's what it is. Vegan castle. Vegan stuff, cancels. Something weird in Hollywood. meal so you know what he listens to it in his weird vegan castle back scientology castle oh

that's what it is something weird in hollywood crystals is it crystals it's ghost crystals what is ghost crystals his his um uh palace it's made of ghost crystals made of ghost crystals yeah yeah and they're really spicy right it's spicy yeah they're the spiciest kind yeah you bet they're the spiciest ghost crystals thank you for understanding what I was saying. But yeah, Nicki Minaj is fucking, she's so great. That's such a great pick for so many reasons. That is. Thank you.

Thanks, guys. I never even thought of that. She just tears in the shit. And like you said, there's so many different Nicki Minaj ones you can have. Her, I hope no, I mean, maybe, we already talked about it. Okay. Her on Monster. Yeah.

What a just. Getting an opportunity and fucking murdering us. I'd heard other songs by her before that like that. God, what was that first song with a massive attack? I remember when that song first came out. That was the first time I heard about Nicki Minaj. And then. But to be on like that verse and just like sun everybody else on that song song, who were the biggest names in rap at the time?

Kanye and Rick Ross and Jay-Z. Whose verse was so fucking bad. It was so bad. You got to be able to do it better backwards and heels when you're a woman. You can't do it as well as men. You have to be able to do it better than men. And she's so much better. Yeah, and Jay-Z helped her out by doing it.

Just like, let me start my verse by naming monsters. And then my Achilles heel. I would think of the Universal Monsters Tour before my verse. Achilles is not a fucking monster, Jay-Z. No, my Achilles heel. Yeah. Love. And also, he tries to make it a little storyline, and you're like, that's not what this is about.

Yeah. Don't do that. It was so bad. Just do what Rick Ross did and be like, all I hear is rumbles. I loved, Rick Ross's verse I loved just because of the fat motherfucker. Now guess who's in trouble. I'm like, thank you. Kirby boys.

Thank you for representing the Kirby boys. Shout out to David Borey, who I think, yeah, David Borey, I think, was detained by Canadian officials. Really? Right now? College. Oh, no. Somewhere in upstate New York.

He's fine. He didn't get arrested, but I think they just held on to him for too long. Probably because they liked him. They probably did. Can we keep you? Yeah, they were just throwing shit at him. Like, what do you think about maple syrup? He's like, yo!

No, for real? And Sean Jordan, who is in Austin, Texas right now with Doug Benson. Shout out to the friend of the program, Doug Benson. They're just sampling BBQs? I think they are. They're doing a little BBQ Samps. A couple of scamps doing Samps over there in Austin, Texas. Is that their Food Network show? Yeah, scamps and samps.

That's a good idea. They just got a Costco. They collect samples and then make something else with them. Oh my god, wait. Have you pitched this to Guy Fieri? That's like an idea that they would buy. What?

What are you doing? It's a TV time show. It's a rap show. What's like chopped? I'm making TV gold. I can't stop, I guess. Grocery store patent pending for Eliza Skinner, by the way. It's like TV, but it's like Costco chopped.

Yeah. Yeah. We can do it. We'll get a camcorder. Sam Slam. I don't know. Just fitballing. We'll go to Costco. Casker. That. We can do it. We'll get a camp for it. Sam Slam. I don't know. Just fitballing. We'll go to Costco.

Casker. That'll be our strike project. Costco will sponsor it too. Do either of your parents call it Cosker? No. Oh God no. Just Sue Carmel. Shout out to Sue Carmel.

Is Sue from Portland? St. Sue Carmel. She is. Yeah. So where's your accent from then? Father. Where's he from? Father.

Brooklyn. Father. Father. Father. He's from C from coney island oh that makes sense because i'm like i'm also from the northwest and i do not have this access he's free i know he's from the jewish part of new york which is already the jewish part of the country uh my dad calls it costco costco is he british or he's just eccentric yes we have to go get quiches at costco what if he wasn't brit British and that was the one word he said like that? Yeah, and he was like, Eliza, what are you doing? We're so glad you're home.

Do you want to go to Costco? Well, my dad's an eighth British. Just the Costco part. It's like how parents turn French when they say tar-jay. No, I was going to say fra-gee-lay. Yeah, yeah, fra-gee-lay. I'm like, yeah, we saw a Christmas story together. It's not original uh you know it's one weird thing like that that i did to myself i always knew i had the word uh epitome like it was epitome epitome i knew from like a youth and

then i read it once i'm like it looks like epitome and then like for a couple years i would confuse the two i'd be like you fucked yourself up. I do that with hyperbole stuff. The hyperbole. I have had people refer to Siegs to me. Siegs? You know, between two different jokes, a Sieg. Oh my God. Oh no.

Yeah. And I had a friend who thought that there were two different things. There was lingerie and then there was also lingerie. What did they think lingerie was? I was like that with horse divorce and hors d'oeuvres. A different kind of lingerie, I guess. No, it divorce and hors d'oeuvres a different kind of lingerie I guess no it's like I thought those were

two different things when it's just shittier underwear or it just it sticks around longer it lingeries lingeries yeah that's what the

cranberries that's the underwear they have to wear have to let it lingeries now I'm such a girl for you which is my fifth pick that wouldn't be a bad one

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No, but I love it. I'm so excited about this. It's the part, it's first of all, it's personally the whole song. Come on. For me. Yeah, for sure.

The whole song. I didn't even listen to it this morning while I was getting ready for this podcast. You just knew it well enough. I knew it and I save it. I savor it. Like it's. You don't want to break it.

I don't want to break it because I only listen to it after I get really good news. What's the part? You're killing me. I'll tell you in a second. Yeah. The last time I listened to it was like after I taped my pilot. And I think the first time or the last time before that was like when they told me.

I'll listen to it two, maybe three times a year. I want to listen to it from now on. That sounds like the best way to listen to it when you're really like, this is about me. Exactly. It's such a come up song. It That sounds like the best way to listen to it. When you're really like, this is about me. Exactly. It's such a come up song. It's such like a glory. Like I fucking made. I did it.

I did a thing. That's the way I eat donuts. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's a great way to eat donuts. I got to get on that track with donuts. I remember when I got into Montreal and I got the phone call. I was driving over the Burnside Bridge in Little Amsterdam, a.k.a.

Portland, Oregon. Okay. And I was driving over the Burnside Bridge in Little Amsterdam, a.k.a. Portland, Oregon. Okay. And – It'll stick eventually. And I was driving over the Burnside Bridge, and I got the phone call from my manager. Shout out to Kara Baker. And I pulled over on the side of the bridge,

and this was, like, before Spotify, or I don't know. It might have been during Spotify, but I didn't have it on my phone. So on my phone, I had to go to YouTube and, like, look up Juicy and, like, let it load enough that I knew it wasn't going to, like, fuck up juicy and like let it load enough that i knew

it wasn't gonna like fuck up in the middle of the song and then like played it off youtube over and over again which meant i had to keep my screen on because the screen goes off it's very fucking dangerous by the way it was super dangerous yeah well what a way to die speaking all my songs are like good songs to die to uh and listen to it seven times in a row yeah it was just like the way what's the part it it starts well so it's Yeah. What's the part? What's the part? It starts. Well, so it's this whole part. It's the Super Nintendo Sega Genesis first.

Yeah. But specifically, because I mean the 15-inch money green leather sofa, whatever. And especially the Super Nintendo Sega Genesis. It's like, come on, it's 2017. But the part is the thinking back on my one room shack. Now my mom pips a act with minks on her back. And she loves to show me off. Of course.

Smiles every time my face is up in the store. And then I'm like a real mama's boy. I know. Yeah, I'm like a big time mama. Shout out to Sue Carmel. Shout out to Sue Carmel. Friend of the podcast. That's how she is.

She will brag. And it's true of Sue Carmel. Friend of the podcast. That's how she is. She will brag. And it's true of all her kids. Especially you, though. You a little bit more. I don't know. Probably you. Everybody else is succeeding in equal but less public ways. Sure.

So you the most. Every time she like, I know how proud she is of me. And the way she loves loves to like brag about me and stuff like that. It just, it just like, it makes me want to cry. I almost, I almost am right now. And it just, it just like

is the part of like seeing all your hard work like become something and seeing how like directly that can like affect the people who really love you. And especially my mom who like really,

my dad was always great too, but he was always more the, uh, I'm not that impressed kind of guy, which you also need a little bit, you know, to be like, you know,

keep working. That's just cause you like won this comedy contest. That was 500 bucks. You know, you're keep thinking about the future, but my mom was always just like the, you've hit it. So proud of me.

And like every time. So then when you start like vindicating that person's belief in you is what that like verse is kind of about to me is like vindicating them like they were right to think they were right to think that yeah yeah that's so great yeah so it might as well be smiles every time my face is up in the portland mercury or whatever and that was weekly for a while that was weekly yeah you have such a great like line now between your first and second picks yeah of like your growth your growth right yeah you're like writing a biography right now um yeah so that's on yeah every time i uh you know as my career has changed and have i grow into positions where i'm employing other people or recommending people for things.

I'm always in a loop in my head. People are like, oh, that's neat. You got your friend a job. I'm like, give an ends to my friends. Yes. And it feels stupendous. That's so true. I feel like I've come by your desk and muttered that before.

Like, oh, I got my friend a sketch today. Give an ends to my friends. And it feels stupendous. Every time I ask someone how you live and they don't respond. In mansions and beds. Yeah, that shit, like, no shade on Tupac. Tupac's great, too. But that particular verse in Juicy hits me so much harder than the entirety of Dear Mama.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, also, he's got some problematic stuff going on. For sure. With women and with that song. And Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, also, he's got some problematic stuff going on. For sure. With women and with that song and yeah, yeah. Yeah, so,

can I, I don't think anyone's gonna pick this, but like, honorable mention to Kanye's Dear Mama song, too. Not Eminem?

Huh? Oh, Eminem. That was posthumous, right? Na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Dear Mama. I don't know if it was. I don't even know that song. I feel like it's so loaded because of her death.

It's just like, oops, sorry. Hit the mic. It totally is. I think he did it before she died. A real heart clutcher, that one too. Because after that, that's when he went dark. And that was still on late registration. Yeah, so Juicy by the Notorious B.I.G.

That was so sincere. I feel like a real asshole now. No, we're all being sincere. Yeah, you're being sincere. We're all being sincere. You guys are being personal. I'm such a dick. I don't know.

Well, the first one was. You're beautiful is what I'm trying to say. You're beautiful. You have a beautiful soul in the words of Jesse McCartney. Thank you. I knew one way or another Jesse McCartney was going to come up during this podcast. It's a little weird, like, feeling so... I don't give a fuck because I just am so emotionally attached to that song.

But, like, being, like, a middle-class white kid growing up and being, you know, not being able to fully relate to the, like... I cry it. I'm a bad bitch, no muzzle. I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I do feel like comedians tend to also wear their emotions so hot. Like all of my friends and I are like, we'll cry at fucking anything if it fits us in the right way. I cried putting this list together this morning a couple times.

I enjoyed it. Not like a full-blown weep, but just like, oh, here it comes. It's a crygasm. It is. Yes! Yeah, literally. I'll shake when I do it. This is some real shit.

Can we talk about it? Yeah. I will sit down and generate a crygasm on purpose sometimes. I have to get it out. Looking at, especially for white people, watching videos of real sad country songs, real easy way to access it. Hurt by Johnny Cash is one of them. The House That Made Me. I don't know that one.

Miranda Lambert, where she's like, I can't remember the song, but I'll synopsis it in the form of a song. Yeah. Where she's like, I just came by and this is where I used to live. Can I walk around and see the house they used to, that made me? Okay, that's not at all

what it sounds like, but that is the energy of it. And you're like, oh God, and she's like, I was a little girl on these steps. And you're like,

we all grow up. There's one about a guy whose dad died and when he misses his dad, he drives his truck. I drive his truck. And I'm just like crying at my desk. I was doing a fucking.

And I'm like, I'm such a white person. I was doing a fucking Snapchat bit the other day, which is probably the worst sentence I've ever said. And I was pulling up sad songs to use for it. And I just was like, you know what will be really obtuse is this song from The Land Before Time, If We Hold On Together by Diana Ross. So I pulled it up to like, you know,

run it through and be like, well, this work. And it actually, I couldn't finish my Snapchat bit because I just fully was weeping. Thinking about little what's mom dying. And if we hold on together and just the whole thing, even right now,

it gets me on. It killed me as a kid. So much land before time. There's a song called a hurricane by David Wilcox that got a little bit of airplay for a while. It's about a girl who's just like cool and awesome,

but she likes to run away from things on what? Her motorcycle. She's in the eye of the storm in that motorcycle and one night she died in the motorcycle.

And it's like so ridiculously sad. It's almost funny, but you cry. But it gets you anyway. Yeah. She likes to run away nowhere that

she can go where the pain won't come again it's probably also about intravenous drug use i assume most songs are yeah the those uh things that will make you believe in humanity again videos that gets me yep or it'll be like this guy just gave that homeless guy his shoes. Or the dog who, his soldiers are coming home. Oh, yeah. Or do you remember that video with the autistic kid who gets to play basketball finally? Yes. Come on. I saw a video of like a therapy dog working someone down from like an autistic fit.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And like sitting on, yeah, yeah, yeah. I cried for literally an hour and a half. I couldn't, I don't know if it's just like if I have a problem that I like, maybe like it is, I like crying. Like it is very masturbatory that I'm like, it feels good.

It is good to cry every now and then. What about all the time? It's catharsis, but I feel like it's also like connection. Like you're being like, I understand their feelings. I have those feelings too. We're having the same feelings. Yay, yay humanity this might be unrelatable so just going out on a limb here but do you ever just like think about how much you love your parents and start crying no because i literally i'll just start thinking about things sometimes i'll imagine a scenario and i'm like

well that's sad and i just i'm weeping and i'm like this was a hype well there's that i think that might have something to do with why I cried so much. But it is I do even when I'm not stoned. I watch The Handmaid's Tale which is fucking fantastic. There's a scene you're not supposed to cry. It was a fine scene and it was just so beautifully shot I started crying.

Just because you were on the precipice of emotion the whole time because the show put you there. Maybe. You're too turned up. It's because you were on the precipice of emotion the whole time because Michelle put you there, right? Maybe. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're too turned up. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel like I just live my life right there, which is why I like to laugh a lot. You know when someone tickles you and then like- You're like, I shouldn't do this at all. And then they just point at you and you're like- And you're like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like that, but with crying. You're like, don't do that. And you start cracking up.

Don't you feel like kind of like when you're being tickled, you could also just turn that energy right into weeping? Yeah. Is that just me? That might just be me. No, punching. It feels the same for me. I would punch, but not weep. I'm a puncher.

Yeah. Okay. So I have to pick another one. Another one. Another one. Another. Another. Sorry for derailing.

I'm really bad at this. This whole podcast is about derailing. Is it? Okay. I guess I'm doing it right. Okay. at this this whole podcast is about derailing is it okay i guess i'm doing it right uh okay god there's a couple that i have to get all right i'm gonna i don't first of all let me just come out and say this right now my list is the most i'm a 32 year old liberal white guy list possible i was expecting to be a 16 year old girl list what the fuck ian that's that i'm gonna i'm gonna do a

extra podcast for that people relate to it there's a lot of 32 year old white guys. What the fuck, Ian? I'm going to do an extra podcast for that. People will relate to it. There's a lot of 32 year old white guys. There are. I'm sure a lot of them listen to this podcast. But the next one

I'm going to pick is just such a... Okay, go. It's Steely Dan. It's LCD Sound System. Okay. I thought about it and I was like,

it's two 32 year old white guys. I never got into Steely Dan. Which song? What song? Dance Yourself Clean. The Drop. The Drop. The Drop in the live version only. Okay.

Which is from the, what is it, from Shut Up and Play the Hits? No, I forget the name of the album. Let me look it up real quick. But I got into, I didn't get into LCD sound system when everyone else was like getting into them. I got into them through the documentary Shut Up and Play the Hits. I haven't seen that. I've never heard of it. It's's great it's about their last concert in madison square garden what they thought was going to be their last concert um much like uh the black album much like the black album yeah so they had this like last concert and like they sold out madison square garden and it's like

75 concert footage 25 you know whatever just like behind the scenes and stuff reggie's in it reggie watts is in it lance bangs is in it for a second did you say lance bass lance bangs front of the program lance bangs just nice dude lance bangs um he could be both yeah and it uh i'd never i'd never really gotten into them before that documentary i just drove you to watch the documentary of a band you'd never really gotten into them before that documentary. So what drove you to watch the documentary of a band you'd never... I just enjoy documentaries. So I was like, I'll check this out. Bring it on, baby.

Exactly. So when they do that performance, I was like, oh, this song is kind of good. And then I was like, I guess I'll listen to the... They did a live album. It's called The Long Goodbye of their last concert. And then I started listening to it. And it was like right in a very very turbulent point in a relationship but then i was in i was in i was in toronto and uh and doing uh jfl 42 i was there

for like two weeks while my like girlfriend who was already in a long-distance relationship with yeah yeah it was important where everything was just like, it was like we were constantly, I was like, I don't know what's going to happen. It seems like we may be going to break up, but we really like each other. Just one of those. My heart. I really poured a lot of my, just like listen to this album and like got really into it to sort of distract myself from it.

And it wasn't even the lyrics, but yeah, it's the drop. The drop. The, the, uh, and then that, and it drops and it's the drop like that drop and then that people are like screaming and having a great time and the beat comes in like so hard and it's it's a little bit like um geez though i mean the song we were talking about before with the is it where is it where the beat comes in maybe it was wake up anyway any song that has a big build-up and then a drop send in the clown send in the clown yeah it's just this like it's this like build-up that like and it starts to gain all this momentum and like the first time because in the concert it

is like broken up by footage a little bit so you don't really get the full heft of it but like when you listen with your headphones in baker street that. That's what it's like. Baker Street. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is like Baker Street. Yeah. And then like it hits and like it's so powerful and it's just like. Overwhelming. Overwhelming. Well, he also changes the way he's singing completely between those sections of the song. It's really quiet and muted and almost talking.

Yeah. And then. Yeah. And I don't know. It just was like how I felt at the time where I felt like I had been like because I'm a person

I like love big you know in a lot of in like yeah it's a great film yeah I love the movie Pluck You

that's very funny though thank you where like but like sometimes you're in these relationships that make you god this is so I mean

we might not even listen to this podcast don't listen to it let it out you're in relationships that make you, God, this is so, I mean. We might not even listen to this podcast. Don't listen to it. Let it out. You're in relationships that make you where people, where you're forced to feel muted or you're forced to like turn yourself down for the behalf of someone and you're like, I don't want to.

I don't want to lose me. I don't want to lose me. I want to keep being me. I think that's especially true with artists, which I don't mean to like overstay what we are, but if you're very like right brained, I think that happens a lot. Yeah. And you get into these relationships with people who are like, you know, who want like, you're like, no.

Who want you to be safer. Calm down. Who want you to be safe and it's a little too much, right? Yeah. And I think there was something about where I was mentally and how I felt in that relationship where it just like someone going from like doing this like measured sort of thing in that song to like just everything coming out at once and in the live version these people are like cheering and yelling

and like yeah and uh the the the lead singer whose name i'm blanking on right now which is crazy uh just like tears into it at that point in a way that like on the studio version is a little more obviously studio restrained. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, but when he tears into it, it's just live. James Murphy is his name. And just like, not even like, doesn't even sing that great. No. But just like sings so viscerally. Yeah, it's just honest.

Where I was just like, ah. So did it affect you? Did it affect you? Did it affect you? Did it affect you? Did that change the course of action subsequently? In that, I just, I mean, we broke up shortly after that. Like not long after that.

Do you think it was related that you were like, that's me! That's me! I don't think, I don't know if it was, oh geez, we might not have broken up actually for a year. I don't know what happened. It was such a, it was such a. But at least it was like, it was the way you could kind of like feel a little free. Just listening to that fucking song. Yeah.

Yeah. That I felt like just some sort of release yeah you know that's like that's extremely powerful i'm surprised this isn't a therapy podcast i mean it kind of is it's art therapy yeah art therapy so that that part of that song and even even and plus just fucking rocks objectively yeah it's the same concept you guys were saying with the the fucking sax song it's like if you shave the pubes the dick gets bigger yeah right exactly yeah they simmer for the first three minutes three fucking minutes of that song it simmers for so long yeah it really does i uh yeah it come at that on the live version doesn't drop until like four minutes and 15 seconds yeah so it's like like that's like that's like when you're like having sex and they're teasing

you and you're like oh okay oh wow oh okay you and you're like, ooh, okay, oh, wow, oh, okay. And then you're like, can we fucking please, please just get good one. It's not cute anymore. Like if I don't get penetration soon, I'm just going to abandon this entire project. I hope they have sex at some point. Yeah. You. I get it.

Our timelines make me not feel sorry for you at all. What, my timeline? You, it's been five minutes. Come on now. Yeah, I get it. Our timelines make me not feel sorry for you at all. What, my timeline? You, it's been five minutes. Come on now. Yeah, I'm sorry. Anyway, that's why I'm making everything about me in my own mind. I can't speak to this because I don't know the last time Ian had sex, but I trust you. Well, I don't know.

What if I told you it was ten minutes ago? See, exactly. That's what I'm saying. I'd be like, where is she? So, yeah, that's my third pick Eliza Skinner and it's time for your third pick it's beautiful I'm proud of all of us

this is a very complex list it really is so I will unapologetically get into musical theater there is a song that I hated that was by

one of the songwriting duo that writes a lot of songs that end up being audition songs, and people love them. The song Kristen Chenoweth made famous, and it is beloved by high-voiced little sopranos.

All shade to me, sorry. Sopranos. Yeah. Um, all shade to me. Sorry. Called, uh, no, I, well, maybe, uh,

called Taylor, the latte boy. Taylor, the latte. Yeah. I don't know this one. You really? Okay.

This is a song that like all these little cute girls are like long blonde hair would be like, I would sing it and be like, Taylor, the latte boy. Bring me. Bring me. And I was like, Oh God, I want to blow my brains out. And then I heard Alan Cumming do it. And I was destroyed.

Oh, fuck. Isn't that crazy how it takes on a whole new meaning? Well, he does it in such a soft, hopeful, but small way. I'm kidding. such a soft like hopeful but small way i'm getting like he's just like like and it's just such a pure that weird pure love that you can have for someone that you don't know yeah that you're like i don't need to i just i'm a person out here who just for a dumb reason just loves you yeah i just think you are great like we're doing downcoming right now yeah and uh and it's just so sweet and i'm of course it's probably also loaded by that it's a man singing about another boy and so it's it's even more like

fragile and vulnerable um but uh and the specific line in it that really gets me is um so uh so it's it's about how like every day he goes he goes in to this coffee shop. The beginning is, I come in at 8.11. And he smiles and says, how are you? When he smiles and says, how are you? I could swear my heart grows wings. So today at 8.11, I decided I should meet him. I decided I should meet him. Taylor tells him about his band.

His band is playing. And he says, what time are you playing and thank you for the extra skin alan cumming does it it's just so like oh my god it's such a small thing and it means so much and you know how that changes somebody's little day and it's just oh it just destroys me every time it can like yank the steering wheel of your day like it's just, oh, it just destroys me every time. It really can. It can like yank the steering wheel of your day like, is there going to be a good one? But yeah, this moment, I love it so much.

And it's, I don't even know if there's a recording of it. I have to find the YouTube video every time I want to hear it. There's like three YouTube videos where it is. And one I think might be taken from an album recording. But I saw him do it live in Edinburgh like years ago. What solo oh no it's

not from a show it's it's this the it's just like a song yeah they get written like i forgot the women's name i should look it up uh it's zina zina goldich and marcy allison heisler and they just write songs for auditions just stand-alone songs that sound like they're from musicals i i mean last time i checked they didn't have a they're just like cabaret type songs. Okay, got it. But, yeah, I love it. And he did a bit on the Late Late Show that I wrote and after we

had done it, he had some downtime. It was like him and his, I don't know, friend, manager, person, whatever. And I was like, I love your version of Taylor, the Latte Boy. He was like, oh, cool, thanks. And I was like, it's just version of taylor the latte boy he was like oh cool thanks and i was like it's just it's so it's it takes a song that doesn't mean anything it makes it mean so much and he's like cool you should come see me in concert bye and like kind

of like he was nice about it but he's like but his friend who's with him was like i know right he's a fucking genius oh god it just it murders me every time i'm like it does it murders me and even even though he was sort of like i I mean, people are like, what I do, no big deal. Yeah. And that's how he acted. I was still like really excited I got to say to him, like, I love this thing you do, this weird little thing. That's such closure.

You can listen to it in perpetuity now and never wonder. Yeah. So that's my third. Taylor the Latte Boy. It's his name, Taylor? The good Latte Boy? Yeah, it. Taylor the Latte Boy. Is his name Taylor, the good latte boy? Yeah, it's Taylor the Latte Boy. I wonder if he worked at Starbucks. Bring me joy.

I just read the Wikipedia, and it says, yeah, it was based on a guy who worked at a Starbucks. Probably named Taylor. I would assume so. Yeah, just writing. Hope he got benefits. Nina's name wrong or whatever. Zina. Zina.

Zina Goldrich. Probably wrote wrote nina yeah and he was like she was like uh i'm meaningless he probably got it right actually oh after a couple days yeah hence the song actually i knew it was xena uh that it is so the 10 those tender little mercies there isn't there isn't enough art about that. Yeah. Yeah. I've been talking in a lot of podcasts recently about What a Fool Believes. That's another one.

That's not like a little tiny happy, but it's a little tiny sad that I also think is like, oh, just this moment that that person should be allowed to mourn and feel so sad about having had someone that they were in love with that that person just didn't ever think about you and thought that you were just pals and no big whoop and there aren't a ton of songs yeah but you can feel gigantic heartbreak about like a little bit yeah and you feel stupid my early 20s was that exact emotion exactly and you feel stupid about feeling about it because no one talks about it so you think well i'm the only one who cares about something as dumb as this i'm like no a, everybody has something dumb like that that they care about. That recognition. I'm so shocked you can understand the words to What a Fool Believes.

That's why I keep talking about it, because people don't know what it's about. And it's such a sad song, but it sounds so happy. It sounds bouncy. I've listened to that song so many times that I don't know any of the fucking words. And I've actually invented my own narrative, which is I like peanut butter. Yeah.

Or nothing at all. And he's like trying to order a sandwich. In my head, that's what's happening. No, it's so much sadder than peanut butter. Although that is also true of Michael McDonald. He does, I bet he loves peanut butter. He's only wanted peanut butter or nothing at all. It's, uh.

No wise man, what a fool believes he sees. No wise man has the power to reason away. Has the power. You know what? I could see why I got that. Yeah, he came from somewhere back in her long ago. Oh, I thought it was Mexico. No.

No. He was a sentimental fool. The sentimental fool don't see, trying hard to recreate what had yet to be created once in her life. He's like, oh, it's us again. And she's like, there was never an us. What are you talking about? Anyway. She musters a smile for his nostalgic tale.

She's like, oh, yeah. And he's like, remember when we did this and we did that? And she's like, sure, yeah. Never coming near what he wanted to say, only to realize it never really was. It was never a thing. Is he a dementia? No, it all happened in his head. In his mind, they had this big connection.

She had a place in his life. He never made her think twice. Oh, you have the range. As he rises to her apology, anybody else would surely know. Oh, this is a harmony going on. He's watching her go. What a fool believes. He sees.

No one has the power. Nobody even picked up. But yeah, those little tiny moments And they're sort of in between the big things Like that's not a song about like I loved her and she destroyed me It's not a song about like He loved me and we're in love together It's so much more real

That's a moment where after you're like Ah, damn. That's kind of how you feel after you're like, oh, shit. You can make art out of anything. For instance, macaroni. Shit. Oh, so Taylor the Latte Boy was the pick.

Yes. But excellent, excellent diversion. It has to be that version. Into the Doobie Brothers. Yeah. Mia Bredo. Okay. It's time for your third.

Oh, fuck. Yeah. You know whatredo. Okay. It's time for your third. Ugh, fuck. Yeah. You know what? Okay, I've like, I really, I lost sleep over this last night. Wow. Because I wasn't sure if this would be too sad to talk about on a fucking comedy podcast. Clearly not. But since we've gone there, I think I'm just going to fucking go for there.

Originally, my concept was I'm just going to go for the songs that objectively, with no personal experience, truly give you goosebumps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I'm going to throw one in there. Okay. my concept was I'm just going to go for the songs that objectively with no personal experience truly give you goosebumps. Yeah. I think I'm going to throw one in there. Okay. Right in the middle. Please do. That does not do that.

You might probably don't know the song. It's by a band named Mew. Mew? Mew. M-E-W. M-E-W. And the song is called Comforting Sounds. It was popular for people to use as their MySpace song.

Yeah. That's probably, if you dospace song yeah that's probably if you do know it that's probably where you know it from i think they're like a swedish band it's very abstract but i was very into that song in my life well i guess i should say the part the part is after like three minutes of a very quiet mellow song all of a sudden a full orchestra comes in and drums come in and it breaks and then it just does that vamping until it ends yeah it's insane just from an objective level that you're like oh fuck my heart like even if you have nothing to be sad about it's gonna kind of get you feeling stuff yeah but for me and this is where things get sad

it was my senior year of high school and in Washington you have to do like a senior project that has to be like a massive endeavor yeah and I had always thought I would do this like benefit dinner because i've been vegetarian vegan my whole life and i was like i should do a dinner blah blah and then my aunt my mom's twin sister gets diagnosed with breast cancer and has like eight months to live oh my god and i was like if i'm so committed to this project like i can't really go see her again like before she fucking dies so i was like i gotta change project. So I made my senior project a documentary about my dying aunt. Oh, my gosh.

Which sounds super sad. And it kind of was. She ultimately died, obviously. So that's fucking sad. There's no way around that. But my aunt gets diagnosed with cancer and has this immediate opinion of like, okay, fuck it then. I'm just going to do everything I never did.

Not even like a bucket list, but like the subtleties. So she was like, you know what? When I was a kid, I always wanted like a princess room. So I'm going to have a princess room. So she paints her whole fucking room pink and gets like a jewel encrusted telephone with like pink fluff on it. And like a pink fluffy bed and just fully had like every 13 year old's dream room for like her life. And so I thought that was just the most incredible thing. I mean, this whole fucking documentary of her like talking about how she's so at peace with dying it was like i don't

want to toot my own horn because like obviously i fucking made this movie but yeah i watched it like a few months ago after like 10 years and it's still like objectively a powerful movie even though it's shot like a fucking handycam and yeah yeah what a powerful moment well she just speaks about dying in a way that you're like she said she's excited to die yeah because she wants to know what the fuck happens and she said she feels like she's reading a really good book and you're really tempted to skip to the ending because like you can't take it and you want to know how it ends but you know that if you do you'll miss the whole middle so she was like truly staying present every moment of her fucking life of the last six months and also just like the idea of when you know you're gonna die how do you live out the rest of your life yeah how do you live every day being like i'm gonna

die in six months you i think what would what matters would like completely shift right yeah and somehow with her it shifted to a positive which was just the most incredible i mean i hope when i die that's if i know i'm gonna die that's i can have half that much yeah uh intelligence about it. So I made this documentary and at the end of the documentary, I have this like super powerful interview with her. And then it like fades to black and quietly that song comforting sounds has been like vamping underneath it.

And then it like says that she died and like the date she died and whatever. And then it just cuts to photos of her throughout her life like starting from baby and like working up to her last photo like ever taken and it's that fucking song with this huge crescendo comes down on the beat and these photos are flashing and you're like oh my god and i mean i don't even think if she was my aunt, you'd still be like, holy fuck, to just see all of life distilled in like three minutes. And this song playing under it that just on its own is like, what the fuck is happening to me? So for me, it's like if I'm talking about goosebumps, it's got to be that. At least goosebumps.

It's I don't know. Still, I listen to it. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Okay. I feel it. So I don't know. I'm glad I go again next so I can try to pull you back like, yeah. Yeah. Okay. I feel it. So I don't know. I'm glad I go again next so I can try to pull you back out of that.

Oh, God. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Well, I mean, it's so hard. Like, we think we divorce things from nostalgia or experience, but, like, you don't. No, you can't. Everything is affected by the things that have happened to you. I think so.

Yeah. I mean, one that was very powerful that happened to you. Totally legit. Even as soon as you described that, the glass got filled all the way to the edge over here.

That was, yeah. Yeah. Picturing it, oh my God. And then to even imagine that like, you don't even,

pictures become so different once somebody is dead. Passes, yeah. Because when you're looking at them, you're like, oh, there's them you're like oh there's my you know

there's my cousin you know yeah they're probably over in New Jersey and then once they they take on a whole new meaning they die it becomes like

oh now this is like part of a story you know what's really fucking insane is looking at the childhood photos of someone that's dead now because then you remember

them not as just like a dead person but the oh shit and then all of a sudden you realize you're mortal and you're like oh fuck and then you start looking not as just like a dead person but the oh shit and then all of a sudden you realize you're mortal and you're like oh fuck and then you start looking at your own baby photos

and you're like they're gonna play these at my funeral it just gets all so fucking real so fast it's so strange how hard it is to wrap our minds around the idea that we're gonna die which is why I made this fucking movie I used to have a joke where I was like um uh when i die if i die i'm like i'm definitely dying i'm

definitely gonna die everyone is definitely gonna die but i can't we cannot process no and that was the whole thing i interviewed all these like uh doctors for this documentary right and um the oncologist was like she said it an onc. Like her whole life is working with people who know they're dying. And she's like, in Western society, we believe we are immortal. It is part of our culture. We remove the whole process of death and dying and dead from our society. Like, do you know what happens when someone dies? Like, what's the next step, right?

Does anyone know? No. Any other country in the world not only knows, but they know how to do it themselves. Yeah. Like, we just are like, no, like, just take it and here give me 10 grand and i'll take care of it we do yeah i guess go hide it in like a park yeah yeah that's what i'm saying like we don't do a fucking and i wonder how that would how our lives would change if we really could process it that was really the whole time we're like if we know we're gonna die it would actually be less traumatic

ultimately when a we die or when people we love die but every aspect of our lives too like every decision we make is like because so many decisions i think we make towards the like well what's gonna have me live last forever right well nothing right nothing is so and also the idea that's off the table then what else all the things that if you find out you're dying tomorrow what are you like oh fuck i never got to finally do this fucking thing like if you're aware all the time oh fuck i could die in any instant in a real way and not just like, oh, I could die in any instant. How would that change, like, what you do on the day-to-day basis? I mean, I would make a lot of real bad choices.

Real bad at first. Maybe, yeah, maybe heroin, like, once in a while. Just to know. Just to see what it's like. Just to slide into that hot tub once. Well, it's because it's always been on my bucket list. It's literally in a bucket somewhere. The bucket of heroin's on my bucket list. Epcot Center in a bucket somewhere. A bucket of heroines on my bucket list.

Epcot Center for you, right, Skinner? Oh, yeah. It's always Epcot. Ellen's Energy Adventure. That's the ride to go on. What? Ellen's Energy Adventure? That's Ellen DeGeneres hosting this ride.

It was made when she had a sitcom before the talk show, so it wasn't even that big of a star, where she talks to you about sources of energy. Originally, it was Epcot, or Exxon's energy adventure, and then there was a little Exxon whoop-de-doo. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, she talks to you about different energy sources, and then you go in these huge, like, church pew-like cars through an animatronic dinosaur display,

and then you come around a corner, and there's Ellen animatronic fighting a dinosaur. Whoa. That's where fossil fuels come from, from Ellen fighting a dinosaur. Thank you, Ellen.

Yep. That feels a little creationist for me. It's real weird. She mounts her Triceratops. Ellen's 7,000 years old. I mean, I buy it. Sure.

She hasn't aged since she's been famous. I mean, we're all going to die. Ellen. Except Ellen. Except Ellen. Yeah. She hasn't aged since she's been famous. I mean, we're all going to die. Ellen. Except Ellen. Except Ellen, yeah. Full circle here. Who keeps drinking the blood of her interns.

That is the big Hollywood secret. Yeah, that is the big Hollywood secret. I've heard she's really into blood. She's a yike. Mielle, you have time for your fourth pick. Okay, let's just pull it right back out of the dungeon. And let's go high. Okay.

I knew I had to choose something from Freddie Mercury sorry if that fucks up your eyes half the shit he sings gives me good yeah well I just I honestly have to try my cries about Freddie Mercury but if I did choose one singular song it'd be under pressure and if I had to choose one singular moment. It's... Wow! Wow! I was... Just when you think it can't get any worse, the other boy's like... Yeah! You're half a step up,

and you're like, what the fuck? That part? Yeah. And then you're like, oh, God, he burned himself out. He's going to take a break. He goes,

why can't we give him all of our chance? Oh yeah, he has a ball we kick, yeah. Why can't we give love that I want more chance? Oh my god, he doesn't sleep. He never sleeps. I just, I think it makes, first of all, it gives you this feeling, it's technically incredible that a man can sing in full chest at that range. But also, he's dead.

Dave always dead. can sing in full chest it's that range but also he's dead davo is dead the whole fucking song is like again the pressures of society like just be kind to ourselves please for fuck's sake and then all the other like interpretations they felt especially especially jesus christ yeah and like also like aside from like obviously being gay but like i know i was reading up on this last night and like i had no idea because i didn't live when Queen was popular. Yeah. They had faced so much animosity. Yeah.

Like, they had so many haters. Again, aside from the gay thing. Did they? Only because his voice was so, quote, unquote, pretty. Yeah. And a lot of rock and roll people are like, this isn't fucking rock and roll. Oh, I didn't know that. I don't know a lot about Queen, I'm ashamed to admit.

I know most of their songs, but I don't know, like. It's these fucking guitar guys. It's the same. Really? Steve Perry had... He had that from within the band. Journey was like, fuck this guy. We're a jam band.

And he's like, I'm sorry that I'm so pretty. I'm sorry my voice is too good. People love buying our albums now. Yeah, they treated him like garbage. No shit. Because you're getting maybe a general audience, but the rock audience is like, fuck you, bro. Yeah, suddenly these girls want to like sway at the songs. You're not shredding your vocal cords

and definitely causing permanent damage. I'm not listening to it. I'm sorry, I'm a trained singer. Like what the fuck? The rest of the band. And then that stuff

is the only stuff that has persisted. Oh, totally. Well, that's like, Sugar Ray, you know, was like a metal band. They were like a hardcore band. Yeah.

And then they put out, I'm sorry, what? For sure, yeah. This is the first I'm hearing of this. Even on the album With Fly, there's some songs that are still kind of thrashy. And that's why they're especially dead-eyed. Because they're like, this is who we are now.

Ah, ah, we just want to fly. Every morning there's a halo. Shut the door, baby. Don't say a word. Not rape. Not rape. Yeah, oh, God. But yeah, Steve Perry, we used to get mad at him because he wouldn't go out and party

with them afterwards. He would just go back to his hotel room and go to sleep. And turn the humidifier on. Yeah, exactly. Oh, you mean preserve the moneymaker? Yeah. You dummies. He had it right, though.

Yeah. He really did. But I don't think, I mean, I would hear arguments on this but with like one ear closed if you will because I truly think Freddie Mercury is the best male performer of all time I don't know who else you could even I mean if we're just talking performance yeah I mean like we could maybe put Prince up there for

sure but just if we're just saying performance vocal yeah because Prince I think if you do all round he's up before mention mark my breath if you're like number one artist yeah but if we're talking about vocal performance yeah and also just like live performance vocal performance because holy fuck if you ever seen him perform live in a video you're like oh see that montreal one yeah yeah every part of me is dripping yeah yeah yeah he just he just was a performer from like another time i don't know i feel like if it were like the 1700s like

of the richest king in the world would have had him. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just... He was regal. And he just was himself and he was so...

I just get sad thinking about it, man. He just was so... I understood him, you know? But I never lived with him. Just powerful too. When he sings, it feels like a gold light should shoot out of his mouth.

And I couldn't choose between this moment... You know, like you can't control. Like a gold light should shoot out of his mouth. And I couldn't choose between this moment. You know, like when you can't control. Like a cyclops thing with the mouth, yeah. Because he has the same fucking thing. I mean, when did he not do it? But the end of Somebody to Love. Somebody to love.

It's so good. And you're like, oh my God, did you just drop down a whole fucking octave? Fully into your chest register with no break. Like, I just can't, man he's why lady gaga's called lady gaga right because they have the same like vocal range no no it was a lyric lyric reference yeah radio gaga song they had and so she has the same like vocal range i don't think so or oh i thought that's what it was i could be wrong we. I don't. We're not talking Nielsen ranges here. If I'm honest, I highly doubt that. Yeah.

But maybe. Maybe. If I'm honest, definitely no. But maybe. I think that's where she got the name, though, at least. Maybe. No, it is a queen reference. Yeah, queen reference.

It could be aspirational at the very least. It could be, yeah. She wants to. I would say who isn't. Oh, yeah. I aspire to have Freddie Mercury's range. I like to have this one note that I can sometimes hit. Yeah?

What is it? C5? Clear C5. Yeah, I know what that is. I know what that means. Under Pressure. It's such a good song. The whole song, too.

You're just like, I don't really know what we're talking about. But yeah. Yeah. I feel it. It's just two beautiful dogs playing in the snow together. In the snow. Yes. Tumbling around and singing and just being beautiful.

And maybe when they leave, they've inadvertently created the most beautiful snow angel you've ever seen in your life. Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. The shade that was left behind was... A little bit of snow on their noses. Yeah. And they actually look better when they're wet, too.

Like, as they play, they're getting cuter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly what it's like. They're confused. What's snow? What is this? They don't know, but they don't don't need to know god i watched a video of a bunch of golden retriever puppies did you cry in the water for the first time so you could cry no i didn't cry what about those ones where it's a dog and it looks like a pile of trash and then they zip

they they shave it and it's a dog under there and he learns to walk okay so happy i i thought for a minute there was some camouflaged dog thing i never heard of what dog looks like a pile of trash just stray ones this dog was a bag of trash they found it on fire I mean that's probably true excellent pick Eliza Skater it's time for your fourth pick

I'm so relieved to be done for now I'm gonna drag us down into the most basic of bitches territory. I would like to remind you guys that I did start with Baker Street and Anaconda. Your street cred's up there right now. Okay. But get ready just to. Okay.

I'm ready. Defying gravity. Oh, I was going to pick that. I know exactly the part you're going to pick. So, I mean, I did think maybe For Good, because For Good fully gets me. It is good. But, yeah.

So, Defying Gravity from Wicked. By Adele Dazeem. By Adele Dazeem, yeah. An Annoying Soprano, as you put it. Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch- An annoying soprano, as you put it. So the beginning part of the song is like a lot of conversation between Elphaba and Glinda. We can fully reenact it for you right now if you'd like. Please. I would love to be sued. This is the big change moment of the show. Yeah. Where, so they've been friends and, you know, they've been trying to work together kind of for the same stuff.

They annoy each other because they're not really nailing it. But at this point, this is Elphaba deciding, like, you know what? I'm not going to try to be the best good girl anymore. Because she kind of was at the beginning of it. She was like the best student, the best. And this is her becoming the Wicked Witch. And testing her abilities. And she's like, best student, the best. And this is her becoming the Wicked Witch. And testing her abilities. And she's like, please come with me.

And Glinda's like, no. And Glinda's like, please stay here. And she's like, no. And she's like, please, please, please. And then finally, she gets it. And she's like, okay, well, this is, you're having delusions again. What is happening? Okay, and Elphaba sings,

I'm through accepting limits because someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but till I try, I'll never know. Too long I've been afraid of losing love. I guess I've lost. Well, if that's love, it comes at much too high a cost.

Wait, but cost? Cost! Oh, and she flies into the fucking air. I'm sorry. The way that it actually goes is I'm through accepting limits

cause someone says they're so some things I cannot change but till I try I'll never know too long I've been up

late up losing love I can't time but well if that's love it comes as much too high Too long I've been afraid of losing love. I guess I must. Well, if that's love, it comes as much too high a cost. I'd sooner buy defying gravity. She flies into the air. Oh, my God.

Kiss me goodbye. I'm defying gravity. And you can't pull me down. Glinda, come with me. And it's her just being like, yeah, man, I'm a fucking weirdo, and I'm going to be fucking weird, and maybe I'm going to be lonely, and maybe I'm going to be not in with the gang, but fuck it. I have to see where this weird road goes.

And the patriarchy, dude. with the gang, but fuck it. I have to see where this weird road goes. And I feel like I have... And the patriarchy, dude. I have screamed this song in my car so many times, like fashion police strife. Every time I've been fired, every time I've been like, this isn't working out, but it's felt

like it's not working out for such the right reason. Do you know what I mean? This is the like, yes, you have to turn in the path sometimes to get farther on the path just be like oh this isn't right yeah yeah i'm sorry sorry sorry sorry but this isn't right yeah i'm but i'm not accepting other people's limits anymore i'm not doing that and i'm not um and yeah that's not if if that is what love is then maybe love's not for me yeah because this just doesn't feel right

and then love can be anything fill it in yeah and like listening to your instincts and stuff and which is so hard BT dubs

as a fucking girl you were trained your whole life to not listen to your instincts and then finally you get to a point in your life probably in your mid-twenties where you're like wait

I'm right just because I thought I was right I don't need someone else to validate that I'm right first right right and sometimes it's just about just becoming a fucking witch. Yep. And fucking flying into the sky. I am a witch now.

I don't care. I'm fine with that. What's so crazy to me about this is that it's a different part of the song for me. I thought for sure it would be the same part. But for me, it's the very end of the song where she's like, And nobody in all of us us no wizard that there is or was is ever gonna break and literally if you watch the stage version she's standing talking the whole scene yeah and then

all of a sudden she flies into the air which just visually you were like what the fuck one second ago so if you care to find me look to the western sky

oh I know that part someone told me lately everyone deserves a chance to fly she speaks the word fly she just keeps drifting around talking and wailing

and if I'm flying solo at least I'm flying free. To those who'd ground me, take a lesson back from me. Yeah, it is a fuck you. It's a major fuck you. It's so fucking good. I don't give a fuck if it's basic. It's amazing.

I don't think it's basic. I think it's wonderful. Well, I think it's both. Yeah. Well, yeah, but I think basic is wonderful. I hate people. I'm so over that. My little cabaret dream, which my friend

keeps trying, is like, you gotta do a cabaret show. You should do a cabaret show. For fun. You know, do you know Ego by Beyonce? How's it go? He's too big. He's too wide. He's too much. He can't fit.

He got a big ego. It's about beyonce it's about um jay-z's dick yeah but it's about his quote-unquote ego right right there's a break at the end of it um and then she starts singing about herself and like she's like i'm too i like i'm too great you're too great like that's why we're a power couple um but at the end she's like uh i don't need no beat i can sing it with piano. And normally it's like this little, um, acapella break. But in my dream it's, I don't need no break. I can sing it with piano.

A nobody in all of us. No wizard that there is or was. Mash up, baby. Yeah, I can't hit that me note. Yeah. Um, but yeah. Do it. That's my little. But yeah. Do it. That's my little.

I'd see that Beyonce Wicked mashup. I think anyone who just listened to the last five minutes of this podcast would agree you should have a cabaret show. I'm very embarrassed that I sang this. I loved it. It was great. It was a treasurer. Yeah.

And it just, fuck, I mean. It's a, this episode, if any episode is the one to sing. I've never seen Wicked. But that made me, I'm in. I just bought in based off that song. It's really fun. It is so much about like female friendships. Yeah.

And fucking the patriarchy. Yeah, fucking the patriarchy. But also like how much you can hurt each other and how much you can grow from having a friend who hurts you. And that it's not just like, again, it's complex things. It's not just like, I like you. I like you. Friends forever. Yay.

It's like, no, shit. Shit is hard. When you let people into your life under any kind of situation, it's hard and it's complicated. Friendships or relationships. And you might move away from each other and it doesn't mean that you aren't still wildly important to each other. You really learn that as you get older. And the things are about work a lot of the time, too.

Like, oh, we actually have to make this work. Yeah. It's going to actually take effort. Yeah. What the hell? Like, not everything is just like, look at us. Like, you're in the log flume ride together. Like, here we are, stuck together as the world passes by.

The log flume ride. Yeah. This is fun. I hope they take our picture. Beautiful pick. Defying Gravity by Idina Menzel. And now it is... And Stephen Schwartz actually wrote it.

It's on me to make my fourth and then fifth picks. No pressure. God. Well, I, whoa. God. Well, I know what one of them has to be. Do you want to do something funny or serious? I don't even, yeah. I mean, I have a kind of a funny one.

I have like a, mm. It's tough. This is by far the hardest one you've ever had me on. This is, yeah, right? This is tough. Because, all right, I've done enough about sad stuff, I guess. Although I will do another one. Mix it up.

So I'm going to do, this is, even though it has a problematic lyric, I'm going to do it anyway. I hate the problematic lyric, but I love the part of it anyway. I will fucking leave. It's Kanye's verse from Jay-Z's Run This Town. And it's going to make me Uh-huh. And it, I mean, it's gonna make me seem conceited. I don't care though.

Whatever. This is a safe space, Ian. You're listening to my podcast. So whatever. It's like, it is, it's crazy how you can go from being Joe Blow to everybody on your dick,

no homo, which I, he's so much better than that. Yeah. I don't know why he even did that lyric, but whatever. He needed the rhyme. He did, I guess,

but there's so much, whatever. to every, uh, I bought my whole family whips, no Volvo. Next time I'm in church, please no photos. Police escorts, everybody passports. This the life that everybody asks for. This a fast life, we are on a crash course. What you think I rap for?

Push a fucking rap for. Which, it's the last part more than anything. You had a RAV4. The RAV4 part, because I had a RAV4. No, it was... This is a good... God, it's so navel-gazing. When you...

Again, it's a podcast. But when you get into a creative field... I don't even care about cars at all. I don't I will drive a Prius with no bumper on the back even if I you know was a millionaire cool humble brag yeah my Mad Max edition Prius but just like the notion of like the I got into this shit to do it which is something that like really connected with me when I was first starting out, like doing comedy where it's like, I'm not, I'm,

you know, the RAV4 it's, it's not, the RAV4 isn't like me, like in a Lamborghini. It's like, I'm going to be a fucking comedian, which is something that I'm struggling with right now.

And I think, which is why I like, maybe I'm connecting the song again now. Cause I did when I was like in Portland doing standup and like, while other people were like getting like kind of okay jobs and i was like so broke eating like spaghetti with hot sauce and like but i'm in this to fucking do this you know yeah and now that i've been like writing on tv shows for like three years which is a wonderful job but it's like is this not was that what you in my fucking rav4ing right now? Am I fucking RAV4ing right now?

I feel like I'm RAV4ing right now. Only you can say. Yeah, you can, but I kind of think- And also, once you have so many options, it feels less pure and clear what choices to make. Yeah. When you don't have options, you're like, that. I'm going to run at that and push at that until that does something. Until I make my goal, yeah. And then it's like, well, you can have that now. Or you can have this thing., you're like, that. I'm going to run at that and push at that until that does something.

Until I make my goal. Yeah. And then it's like, well, you can have that now. Or you can have this thing. Or you can do this thing. Or how about you get really comfortable over here. Yeah. And also it's the skills. With your RAV4 money.

It's like an umbrella of skills you have that work at 40 fucking things. Yeah. Which one do you want to do? Right. You can be dream adjacent. Right. And you can be there right now. Yeah.

Or you can keep going for that big thing. Right. But it might take big thing right and then also job security and shit i mean there's so many considerations yeah that's i think that's your whole life you do that i think so so yeah and so i'm going i'm i was going through that then and i'm going through it now uh as as well and and then like yeah so i just connect to it like on a big way when he says that line like uh what you think i rap for to push a fucking rap for? I'm like, God, that's not, you know, it's almost like, remember who you are. Is that Lion King rap? Yeah.

Yeah. And then just, I also like the, I bought my whole family whips, no Volvos. Because I want to do that. K-Volvos are fucking great. Volvos, I would, my family would be so happy if I bought no Volvos. Because I want to do that. Volvos are fucking great. My family would be so happy if I bought a Volvos. They never break. Is anybody turning out Volvos?

I don't know. They just continue them. No. Do they still like Volvos? Yeah. They do. Yeah, but I'm wondering, somebody tricks out Volvos.

Somebody's done that. Oh, I've seen it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My boy Craig. Craig. He's very white. So, I've seen it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My boy Craig. Craig. He's very white. So that's my fourth pick. It's a good pick. Thank you.

Ooh, fifth and final, right? Fifth and final pick for me is going back to more existential than emotional. Okay. But the song is by this guy Dan Deacon. Yep. Who's like kind of a weird electronic. You guys know him. Yeah. Electronic, who has done so many cool stuff. But the song is When I Was Done Dying, which, by the way, has the coolest music video that I've ever seen.

It's like all these different, Adult Swim made it, and it's all these different like visual artists and like graphic artists, some like animated. Some of it just like found footage type stuff it's such a cool video but the song is like about dying and a lot of the lyrics are like crazy but there's this chunk that starts like right around three minutes and I'll read the whole thing and it's just I've talked about this before

on the podcast I have saved on my phone a like a small list of songs that if the plane starts crashing i will listen to you're not even gonna try to get off the plane no well no the plane's crashing what i'm gonna jump out of a 747 i used to have uh i used to have a song that i would play for when the plane took off to like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lots of people have that, yeah. I guess it was kind of in, it might crash. But this is my,

this is my, if it's over, this is what I want to go out to. And this is. So many death songs from you. I know. This is, this is the song.

And it's because of this, and again, a lot of this is like crazy. He was probably on like mushrooms when he wrote it, but I think it's beautiful. So there's a crab in this lyric, but whatever and it's and there deep in the distance my eye caught a spark of a crab twice my size with incredible strength oh it greeted me kindly

and then we all drank and we drooled out together right onto the ground and the ocean grew up quickly right all around and the earth looked at me and said, wasn't that fun? And I replied, I'm sorry if I hurt anyone. And without even thinking, cast me into space. But before she did that, she wiped off my own face. She said, better next time.

Don't worry so much. Without ears, I couldn't hear. I could just feel the touch. And then it's like this beautiful music behind it. Whoa. But I'm like, it even makes me emotional right now. It's like... What do you take it to mean?

I just think it's like a beautiful message of like we get so wrapped up in little stuff while we're... Here. Even big stuff we get wrapped up on, but like... At the end of the day, what were your eyes really on? Yeah. we get wrapped up on, but like, at the end of the day,

what were your eyes really on? Yeah. And even just like the, I'm sorry if I hurt anyone is probably a thing that like a lot of people think like when they're like on their way out, like that's the big, I feel like that's probably the biggest thing you end up regretting more than like, cause we like, I don't think anyone gets into this to like hurt anyone,

but we all, I mean, this wraps around to my first song, but we all end up like hurting each other, smashing into each other constantly. All the time. It's like, but we all, I mean, this wraps around to my first song, but we all end up hurting each other. Yeah, we're all smashing into each other constantly. All the time. Birth to death. But we're like bumper cars, but we're higher stakes. It's like a demolition derby, really. I mean, as long as you're

doing your best. Yeah. Yeah, but it's... And helping some people, I'll say. And helping some people, but I think that is the... Giving ends to some friends. The sentiment of that... This person is basically talking to God, but God's a crab, or I guess it's Earth, really. It's Mother Earth, yeah. Yeah, and the whole, like, wasn't that fun? Like, God, like, God saying that to you?

God, just got, like, the weird cry thing? Yeah, no, but I mean, wouldn't that, like, isn't that, isn't that ultimately, like, the best you could hope for? Right, and they're like, wasn't that fun? Yeah, it was fun. And you're like, what if you forgot to have fun? Oh, no. Oh, God. You know, like, and God's like, wasn't that fun?

You're like, no. Don't forget to have fun. No, I started. Wasn't that fun? No, I started. Oh, you guys, let's do heroin right now. I know. like and god's like wasn't that fun you're like no don't forget to have fun no i started no i started is it too late i want to try wouldn't that be the worst thing is if you got there they're like wasn't that fun you're like no i was in this like terrible marriage i'm like uh i i screamed at a guy about my muffler i made other people so happy i did just what they wanted to. And I don't, I still don't know what I ever wanted to do. Oh,

fuck. And like, that's the worst kind of goosebumps. Right? It's like, better luck next time. And then the other, the other part of this lyric that I think is so beautiful,

but almost in a sad way is like, because this song is also a little bit about resurrection in a way, but she's like, you know, better luck next time. Don't worry so much. But without ears, I couldn't hear. I could just feel the touch. So it's like, you don't even know. Even. Don't worry so much. But without ears, I couldn't hear.

I could just feel the touch. So it's like, you don't even know. Even if you come back, you don't get that wisdom. You know, you just do it all over again. Yeah. So that whole song. And it's such a beautiful song. And from you reading it, it sounds a lot like the night before Christmas.

Yeah. Oh, thank you. And there deep in the distance, my eye caught a spark. I'm getting sleepy. No, it's literally like the same iambic pentameter or whatever. I guess it is, right? On dasher, on dancer. We're dying so quickly.

We're dying so quickly. Why were they so mean to Rudolph? That'd be great for your cabaret, a mashup. It's just, yeah. So it's, and then again, like be great for your cabaret. I'd mash up. It's just, yeah. So it's, and then again, like, watch it with the music video, because it will, like, just, it will fuck you right up. But it's such a beautiful song, and, like, the sentiment is so, it's comforting in addition to being just, like,

encapsulating everything that I think is important to remember about being alive. Fuck. So it gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. I wish you important to remember about being alive. Fuck. So it gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. I wish you went last, man. That's heavy. So that is my fourth and fifth pick. That's good. And then Eliza Skinner, it's time for your final pick.

Okay. You know, I'm just gonna go with a fave here. Maybe not. I mean, this might be the position that I look back on. I'm like, there were bigger ones. There were ones that were more important to me. There were ones that were more important to the world. But this one, this song has stuck with me for a really long time.

It's sort of a song that I can just lie on my bed and stare at the ceiling and just really think about and get into and cry. It's another crier. It's a cry banger. My favorite types. Cry bangers. It's called Sweet Lorraine by Patti Griffin. Oh, I don't know it. There's a lot of different songs called Sweet Lorraine or Oh Sweet Lorraine.

But this is the song and version that I really like. And just if I had to pick a part of the song, it would probably be like just the clang of, I don't know if it's a steel guitar that's played in it, but it's just like this really great chord and really like driving. And it's just a super sad song. Do you don't know Patty Griffin at all? No. Patty Griffin has written a lot of the Dixie Chicks hits. Oh, okay.

Like, there was one that you just mentioned. Her name sounds kind of familiar. Yeah, Time for... Was it Time for Me? There was a song that something you were just saying reminded me of, but now I can't remember what it is. But she's done. Yeah. And she's got a lot of my favorites in there.

But Sweet Lorraine was... Her father called her a slut. This morning, oh, at the church where her daddy gave you the rain away. The rain away. The rain. Sweet Lorraine. Sweet Lorraine So it's about this girl who like Her family did not like her Or understand her

Earlier in the song it's Lorraine who spoke of paintings in Paris And outlandish things To her family just to scare us Scare us Whatever So she's like this smart Careful oddball girl And oh there's one line

her father would tear out like a page of the bible and he'd burn down the house to announce his arrival well that's a powerful lyric the whole thing is powerful lyrics it's crazy and um and again it seems like one of those things where it's like it's a small life that just got traumatized and banged up and no one in this story cares about her but someone should care about her and this song cares about her and and i just love it i really if you patty griffin i'm such a huge fan of get into her she one of another song of hers that i almost considered about for this was's a song called Tony that I rejected because it is laughably sad. It's one of those songs that you're like, oh, there's no subtlety to this.

It's about a gay kid who kills himself. Oh, yeah. Right. So it's like. But yeah, she's so great. And this song really like, it sounds cool. Her voice is amazing. And I think it does have like a deftness to the very sadness that she's writing about.

Those are beautiful lyrics. Yeah, it's great songwriting. You put those over beautiful music? Geez. Yeah. Yeah. So that would be my last one. That is a great, that's a great pick.

She's from Maine. Oh, yeah. And she didn't start until, I think she didn't start performing until she was like 30 or something. Yeah. I think it was pretty cool. That's Yeah. Which I think is pretty cool. That's amazing. You always think for a music career or something like that, you need to start when you're 15.

Right. Yeah. That's awesome. Have a little life first. Get divorced. Then start playing the guitar. Well, her first album didn't get released until 13 and a half years after she recorded it. It was like, wow.

Go Patty. Yeah. Just keep doing it. What are you doing it for? Yeah. To push around for? Similar artists. I'd really say Patty's the country version of Kanye.

Yeah. Country. Patty who I just heard of. I'm feeling like. Little Patty. Miel Bredo, it's time for your final pick. Yeah. Okay, listen.

I'm going gonna end this motherfucker on a bang um I can't believe I'm gonna do this um especially considering the last episode

I was on Star Spangled Banner really no what a beautiful book no I should just end the podcast forever after this

think about it Star Spangled Banner okay Francis Scott Keenan see the last episode on David chose that after that. Think about it. Star Spangled Banner. Francis Scott Keenan. See the last episode on David chose that first. We did. For One Hit Wonders.

He's being tricky. The G-Asylum took. He's being tricky. He is. And like when it came to me this time organically, organically,

I wasn't even trying to be referential. I was like, I can't. It makes way more sense in this podcast. I was like, I can't.

I can't do that because it's so directly ripping what he did. Yeah. And then I was like, I can't. It makes way more sense than this podcast. I was like, I can't. I can't do that because it's so directly ripping what he did. Yeah. And then I was like, you know what? That makes it better. Yeah, it does.

Which part? I love the episode of the back-to-back bringing it in. Which part of the Star Spangled Banner? Okay, it's exactly the part for the land of the free.

Every time they hit that. When they hit that next one. Free. Sometimes they'll break the free up. Free. Yeah, right. I don't like it when they do the vocal gymnastics on that part. I don't.

No, I want it clean. It's good as is. It's okay to me. I don't know the syrup on the pancake. I just need butter. As long as we both did food. As long as it's in a high enough. Okay, so that song has like a big range.

So most singers need to modulate it. Female singers would have to modulate it pretty high to be able to hit the lowest. Oh, the twilight's last gleaming. They have to hit that. They'd have to go pretty high. So by the time they get to three, it's probably way the fuck at the top of their range.

And if you're going to do that in a fucking head voice or falsetto, why are you singing the national anthem at an event? You know what I mean? So they're fucking pulling that chest way up there. And so it's like on the verge of breaking and you can kind of feel that it is. And then also it's like the national anthem. So if you're like a patriot at all, you're already kind of fucking riled up. And also you're at

an event with a bunch of strangers and you're about to watch sports and you're like, oh my God, everything's happening so fast. I just, every single time i even if i don't give a fuck about the singer every single time that part of the song gets gives me goosebumps there's also something about knowing when it's like uh just like a game 32 in the middle of a season and it's like uh it's just somebody who like works at enterprise rent-a-car who has like a really good voice is going out there and gets to perform in front of 20,000 people. It's their chance.

Yeah. I agree. And it is lyrically a nice reminder, again, that we're just a bunch of people trying to do something. Yeah. Let's bring it back to reality. Well, I mean, we're just trying our best. It's not like, God save the queen, she'll figure it out for us. No.

It's like, oh, jeez. We're just a bunch of dum-dums. This is all of us. We're hoping to be good guys. Yeah, we're free-range dum-dums. Yeah. I find beautiful. It is beautiful. It's like, yo, we're all... And then you look at the flag and think about all the good and terrible things that

America, at least I do, has stood for. But the ideals are there. Yeah, the ideals are there. Like, what is it all for? But it's everything that it means to be an American, which is definitely good and bad. And then what it means to be alive, you know what I it all for? But it's everything that it means to be an American, which is, like, definitely a damn thing. And then, like, what it means to be alive, you know what I mean?

You can just keep expanding this idea and then you're like, I'm weeping at a baseball game. That's me every time. I have a bag of peanuts in my left hand.

I cried all over my hot dog and now it's wet. I wiped my eye with my hot dog and there's mustard everywhere. I definitely have pink eye. That's me. Catch me if the dodger is.

It's an amazing last pick. It's the perfect last pick. I felt like I had to. I think you made the right choice. Let's go over them again. I picked first and I went Wake Up by the Arcade Fire, Juicy by the Notorious B.I.G., Dance Yourself Clean by LCD Sound System, Kanye's verse on Run This Town, and then When I Was Done Dying by Dan Deacon. Eliza, you went Baker Street by Jerry Rafferty, Nicki Minaj's Breakdown at the end of Anaconda, Taylor the Latte Boy as sung by Alan Cumming.

Only that one. Defying Gravity by Idina Menzel, and then Sweet Lorraine by P Cumming. Only that one. Defying Gravity by Idina Menzel, and then Sweet Lorraine by Patti Griffin. Male Bredo, you went I Am Telling You by Jennifer Holliday. Kiss by Prince. Mew by Comforting Sounds. No, vice versa. Oh, sorry, I'm God.

Yeah, Comforting Sounds by Mew. There it is. Under Pressure by Queen and David Bowie, and The Star Spangled Banner as performed by Dolores. From Rent-A-Car. The shift manager at Enterprise Rent-A-Car. Who won the lottery that month. Her daughter told her she could do it.

She didn't believe. She didn't believe in herself. Was there anything that was hard to leave off the list? Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I was sneaking things in the whole time. Okay. The most obvious being Life on Mars. I Will Always Love You? Oh my God. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I was sneaking things in the whole time. Okay. The most obvious being

Life on Mars. I Will Always Love You. Oh yeah. Oh, there's this song that I should have mentioned with your first one called,

called I'm Not Afraid of Any, wait, was that it? Was your first one was the, yeah, I'm Not Afraid of Anything. Wake Up. Yeah,

the kids, you're not a kid anymore. No, that wasn't it. When I was done dying? Well, whatever. There's another song that i

almost mentioned called you're not afraid of anything um it's about like this this girl is like yeah i'm not afraid of all this stuff and my friends are afraid of this my friend my other friends are afraid of this and i'm cool i'm not afraid of anything and this guy is afraid of me oh um but i'm not afraid because nobody gets in here yeah nobody ever is gonna feel make me feel anything so I'm not afraid of anything and that gets me I know that

shit yeah I thought one of mine was the Styrofoam Boots slash It's All Nice by Modest Mouse right when the drums

kick in towards the end oh now I remember with the one that was like your first one yeah Both Sides Now by Joni Mitchell oh god yeah

I had Joni on here at one point yeah The Bright Eyes Cover of Devil Town by Daniel Johnston. Oh, fuck. It's so good. Oh, Holy Night was on my list. Oh, yeah.

There's some fucking Christmas songs for real. Yeah. That part every night, dude. Unfortunately, All I Want for Christmas is You has been ruined. Too much. That worked for a couple of years. That really got me. It was a great off-season karaoke song.

June, you bust that out when people didn't know it too much. People used to laugh every time. Oh, they loved it. Sigur Rós Festival. Oh, yeah. Or fucking nude Radiohead. A lot of Radiohead songs. Oh, Ella Fitzgerald.

I had the fucking Blue Skies where she scats for like four minutes straight. Oh, I don't know that song. I had the beginning of That's the Way It Is. The guitar, the piano. That's the way it is. Oh guitar, the piano. That's the way it is. Oh, yeah. You got sampled. Changes too much.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's so good. Oh, dude. Just the way it is, some things will never change. You know what I had? It's a real Virginia choice. I took it off because I was like, I'll be burned at the stake.

Yeah. I had Conte Partiro by Andrea Bocelli. Oh, come on. I would have loved if you stunted like that. I don't know. And then my last one would have been just the Spadiotti Dopealicious horns from Spadiotti Dopealicious by Outkast. Wish you would. I also had a, there's a song called Die Vampire Die from a show called Title of Show.

That's all about creative process and all the voices, the vampires in your head that tell you not to do things. Oh, yeah. And not to write things and that's stupid. And like some of them are your friends or your family or what you think the world is. And there's this one part where she slows it down and she's like, if there was, if someone came up to me on the subway and said the things that I say to myself to me, I would say they're mentally ill and deranged. But when it's a voice coming from inside my head, I think it's the voice of reason. And I'm just like, ugh. That's powerful.

Every time. That's powerful. Make those vampires die. Write it anyway. Which reminds me of Mack Weldon. No, we don't have a – Every time. That's powerful. Make those vampires die. Write it anyway. Which reminds me of Mack Weldon. If you guys, no, we don't have a. That's amazing.

Thank you, Eliza Skinner. Thank you, Ian, for having me. Thank you, Mille Bredel. This was one of my favorite. This was one of my favorite episodes. Really? Yeah, it really was. Listeners, I hope you enjoyed it, too. I'm not going to put up a poll for this one because nobody loses or wins on this one.

No. But please send us your favorite Goosebumps songs because I want to listen to them. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Yeah, I want to hear. Just add us with them. And tune in again next week for a very special episode of All Fantasy Everything. Are they always very special episodes? No, no, no.

There's only three that weren't. that was a hate gun podcast