All Fantasy Everything - SNL Cast (w/ Jesse David Fox)

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

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You can follow him at Jesse David Fox on Instagram. Jesse David Fox is here, and today we are drafting an all-time Saturday Night Live cast. If anybody's a couple weeks behind on the zeitgeist, it's all fantasy everything. I'm your host Ian Carmel and with me as always are my good friends and comedians Sean Jordan and David Borey.

Here we are. There's more options than I thought, than I remembered there being when I was going through the whole list. Really? I mean, they just kept coming. I was like, how? Jeez, there's a ton.

I know, but- The show's been on for like 50 years. It's so, it's been on for so long. Yes. It just wasn't easy. What is everyone's current engagement with Saturday Night Live? I love it right now.

David threw up a goose egg. I never love it right now. David Thrupp a Goose Egg. I never watched it really. I have like the hits throughout the year. I don't even really love sketch comedy like that. But you know, so. But I have like, you know, it's in the culture, right? You've taken it in always. I remember cowbells and all that shit.

Yeah. You have to because it also then became like the foundational language. Like that and stand-up, I guess, of like American comedy for a long time. And then I guess like Daily Show talent tree started trickling in there. My question for this is, if we're drafting a cast,

are we drafting them when they were cast members, or are we drafting them currently? The way I approached this was I think we were like trying to put together an SNL cast. As? Like let's say we're putting together a season of Saturday Night Live and the way I thought of it was like what would a good cast for that be?

Okay. As opposed to like my top five people because I think that might be two different lists. Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. Okay, yeah. So it is them generally when they're on the show a-h. Yeah. Yes.

Yes. They're Saturday Night Live run. All right. Gotta change a couple plays. Julie Louis-Dreyfus getting moved down the list. That's exactly who I wanted right now, actually. I'm glad you said that. I thought it would be phenomenal right now actually I'm glad you said that that's it I thought it would be phenomenal right now because I was going through it and I was like not a

Not a strong run on Saturday Night Live, but you know the strongest run of all time after she was on that She was on the cast when Lauren left, right? I can't remember. Was she on the ringer cast? I thought she was on the one with like Anthony Michael Hall and stuff. Well, Anthony Michael Hall was Lauren's first year back. I think she might have been on, I actually can't remember if she was on the Ringer cast with like Martin Short and Billy Crystal. These are things I should know, but. I'm looking it up right now and I'm not going to be able to tell you even with it in front

of me. Or she was on the cast right before because her husband was doing We Can Update. Oh, that's right. Brad Hall. Brad Hall. Interesting. Her tall blonde husband. 1985 is when she left.

So she was on from 82 to 85. Yeah, so she was hired before when Lorne left and then stayed through the year where it was like Billy Crystal Martin Short and did not make an impact whatsoever. Yeah. Other than on Larry David, who that's how they met. Oh, that's right, they're on SNL.

And he kept, you gotta play the long game. Yeah, whatever. Wasn't he also on that show, Saturdays, that didn't work? Yeah. Larry David, yeah. That's where he met Michael Richards. Just collecting talent. The cast of Saturdays.

Yeah. It's out there scouting. Sean, you're still used to watch SNL. What about your child, what's your childhood relationship with SNL? What's your lifelong relationship with it? I had like a 15 year gap, probably. 10 year gap maybe where it wasn't something that I watched.

I always, you know, you always know about it, but I wasn't paying attention. I've been paying attention for the last five years. I don't know. I love it right now. I think it's great. And the cast before this current one, like when they just recycled, what, two, three years ago

or whatever, that one, I love too. Is that what like Kyle Mooney and them? Kyle Mooney, Beck Bennett, yeah yeah. I thought they were fantastic. I still, well see you can't say it. Can't say the name? Yeah, I know. Jesse David Fox, you write about comedy. Yeah yeah. For a living.

I watch it professionally, but I do like it. I used to watch it live and then I had a kid and there's no way on earth You know millions of dollars to watch Way if I'm watching show live something wrong has happened, but yeah Watching it from the ER. I did not grow up an SNL kid like I I watched in living color from a really young age and then like once a teenager started watching it and then Like in my early 20s, I felt like I figured it out and then I found it to you like the most exciting thing to watch which is not to be like I tapped into sense of humor, but partly it was just like oh like

The idea of like oh Bobby Moynihan was a person I saw at UCB and now he's on SNL and it's like oh sometimes it's bad and like the sort of the how to watch it clicked in for me. And then I've been sort of religious ever since. Like I find it thrilling to talk about even if it's like, if it's good or bad, just like as a cultural phenomenon. Yeah, there's almost a sports aspect to it a little bit where you're like, who's like on a hot run right now

or who's been benched like by Lauren, you can clearly see it, who had like on a hot run right now, or who's been benched by Lorne? You can clearly see it. Who had like an amazing game on Weekend Update and is now like prominently in the cast a little bit more. I was a big SNL kid. I still watch it now. I think like not every episode, but like most of the episodes. I had a little bit of a dark period, but like huge SNL kid, almost exclusively

on Comedy Central reruns, which was like a huge way for me to engage with it, because again, I wasn't staying up. That and then the best of DVDs when those started to come out, and you could just run through, again, I'm not gonna say picks, because those are like the best SNL cast members. And so, and hosts sometimes too,

like there'd be a Christopher Walken, just DVD. And that was always like the best SNL cast members. And so, and hosts sometimes too, like there'd be a Christopher Walken, Jess DVD. And that was always like the big, if I can get that at like Walmart or Best Buy for $5. And bring that home in the bin. Well, and it's nice now too, cause you can go back and watch them all anytime you want. And also like the weekly, you don't have to watch it because you can piece it together

through each sketch throughout the week. I mean, that's honestly what I end up doing now is just I'll watch one of them. Like I'll get the whole episode through the week. Just sitting like on YouTube. Do either of you guys ever audition? Hell no. No.

You talking to me? I've only ever even been. Well no, they do like local audition. They do like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've only ever even been once. Yeah, I've only ever even been over there once. We did go to an after party with David and spend $130 on two drinks, is that what it was?

It was crazy. We got two double. Two double Hennessys. Hennessys. And yeah, I think it was 130 bucks and there was a price seven and a half foot tall dude in front of me. So, ball player?

Yeah, walked past Lizzo. Brad Hall. Couldn't hear a word? And then we saw Lauren in the basement eating a steak in the farthest corner you could be in. With like a lot of women. Surrounded by women. At four in the morning.

I was like, oh man. This guy. This is very New York party. This is real New York party. That's what you hear is he's still at the after parties at four a.m. hanging guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy.

This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy.

This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy.

This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. This guy. at four. And then he'd like, his first thing he does on Monday is they have a meeting and they go to dinner. Then it is the Tuesday dinner. He's just like, dinner is like the main part of his job. So then he has to have his big celebratory dinner at the end of the show. He's crafting a beautiful life for himself. Yeah, he's got to figure it out. I mean, I bet, how instrumental do you think he is

in the process now? I think still pretty big, right? I think if he has like a gripe about it, but if it's good, does he, like does he, what am I trying to say? He still approves everybody, that's him. Yeah, they still pitch him, right? That's all Tuesdays they pitch, they still pitch him.

He, from what I understand, it's like he, he's not scouting as much as he did however many years ago, but he's approving everybody. And everyone's gonna audition for him at some point. And then like, he's not that involved on Tuesdays, but he's reading every sketch on Wednesdays. He still does like the stage directions. He's overseeing that.

And the place where he really is involved is like picking the sketches that go to dress and picking the sketches that get on air. And like navigating that. Dude, it would be so funny if he just went to the Comedy Cellar one night and just sat in the back just to see everybody. Like, oh no, this is my chance.

They go do a sketch instead of their set. When you auditioned, did you do stand up or did you do characters? Stand up. So I did an audition for Lauren. I never made it like anywhere near that far. I remember that. Yeah.

Two rounds of LA auditions, I made it through. And I just did like stand up and then tried to do character like impress, like not impression, but like stand up where I do voices and stuff like that. Yeah. No, that's another that's another season in L.A. It's like J.F.LFL audition season and SNL audition season. And we knew friends who like, I knew like Brooks Weeland got it off of those, like those standup auditions.

And James, did James Austin Johnson get it through like his Instagram reels? Somebody, I don't remember. It was Seth Meyers. James had been, he had been like, he knew he wanted to do that when we lived together. You know what I mean? He like, that was always his like.

It was, he'd said, he told, it was something where like, somebody, Seth Meyers I think, saw one of his reels or something and then showed the words directly. I think so. I, you don't have to ask him, but I think it's something like that. Good story, Sean. It's the scaredest I've ever been doing stand-up. But I still auditioned, right but I think it's something like that. Good story, Sean. It's the scaredest I've ever been doing stand-up.

But I still auditioned, right? I can't imagine they just- You must have. I'm sure, I'm sure. But I think that's how they, I think that's how he got the audition. Like the only people who, like I think Maya Rudolph, they didn't have,

they didn't make audition, and Mike Myers didn't make, do like a proper audition. They're like, we heard how good you are, we don't have to waste- This guy's got it. And what's that? I mean, I remember that Will Ferrell audition, that was like one of the first I whatever like viral videos I remember watching where his audition tape were like no

This is how he did and then you know to get off the shed and the cat thing He's one of the dudes who's like yeah, who's like auditions made the show like immediately Yeah, it's insane. We're already talking about pics. So I guess we should just get in None of them are gonna make it That's on the cutting room floor, we'll go. Weirdly, none of my pics. I don't know, man. Sean has shown on Blue Sky?

My headphones are fucking blown at dudes. I'm sorry, okay, there we go. Yeah, if you just Google, it'll come up. All right, Sean's on Blue Sky somewhere. Instagram's the one, yeah, I'm on Blue Sky somewhere. Instagram's the one. If you're not following me on Instagram, please do it. And I will be, you know, I cut you off.

Keep going, I'm sorry. Don't do it, dude. Don't follow me on Instagram. Come to Fort Collins last weekend in March. I'll be doing standup that Friday and Saturday. And then come to New Orleans. Okay, he just told us the other day that, I don't know if this is weird to say,

hasn't sold one ticket from anyone from New Orleans. Every, all the tickets he's sold. He hasn't really announced it wide to New Orleans, and they're in Mardi Gras, where I don't think anyone makes plans for after. Yeah, that makes sense. But it's just so sick, all the tickets they've sold, which is a lot, are all people traveling in.

So thank you. And if you haven't done that yet, go buy your ticket. It's a lot of tickets, so get on it, yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. There's not a ton available. It will be fun. David Borey's here, Cool Guy Jokes get on it. Yeah. Yeah, there's not a ton available. It will be fun David boring is here cool guy jokes 87 on Instagram Birth of a nation available now on patreon starts with a G. That's right. Good call. Uh

What when does this come out? Isis oh this Thursday. Oh tomorrow come see me in Oh this Thursday? Oh, tomorrow come see me in Dayton, Kentucky, Cincinnati, Ohio area at the Comedy Commonwealth Friday come see me or Saturday come see me at Comedy Corner Underground in Minneapolis And then April 5th and 6th you can come see me at the West River Comedy Club It's some town in North Dakota Yeah, get them.

What do I care? What do I care? They could fall into the ocean that side of the state. And then April 25th and 6th, you could see me at Dallas Comedy Club in Dallas coming back. You know what hurts even more? I asked Adam, I go, hey, can I get that Rapid City information? He's like, David got that on his own.

So that hurts even more. I did get it on my own. I can give it to you. That was mother, why, so I can email him a picture of me holding the fucking elk head? Anyway, keep going, I cut you off. Did you, no, you did that cut off thing, I think, because you weren't happy with your riff.

Yeah, it was a weird, elk head. That's how that felt like that happened. It was a weird riff. Isaac, cut all that out, please. Isaac, no, we got it. Keep the purple hand thing in Actually put the purple hand thing right there Isaac's knuckle deep in another word we said

Jesse David Fox is here. Writer at Vulture. Host of the Good Ones podcast. Author of Good Ones. Book about comedy. Anything else? Not Good Ones. Author of comedy book. God, I'm on one of the shots, alright? I'll be straight up honest with you. I forget which one, I think it might be Zep Band. I'm on one of those Ozempic clones,

and I had ice cream and pasta last night. You also have a baby. And I have a baby. So there's a bunch of multiplying. That's the big one. There's a baby, and then my brain is like revolting against my stomach right now. There is a cold civil war happening in my body.

So I'm sorry about that. It's okay, no, I totally get it. Where would you like to direct people? Anything you'd like to tell the listeners? We're good ones coming back, I think, somewhere in the next month or so with video, as these things are. We've got guest lineups that are very exciting.

Also, if I can just say, it's a great go back, because it's not like, yeah, that's a great like evergreen podcast where if you have a list, you can just go back. Whoever your favorite comedian is, I hopefully have gotten to them talking about ideally their most famous joke, that was the goal. So hopefully have gotten to them talking about, ideally, their most famous joke. That was the goal.

If there's any joke you like, I've hopefully covered it. The Shane Torres, Guy Fieri joke, for example. For example. For one Johnny example. He didn't do the bagel joke? That was on Comedy Central. Everything bagels, they should cost more than the plain bagels.

Jess, he's just right, shit, I gotta book an episode right now. Shane Torres is one of our best friends of the world. Jessica, we're not talking loose shit about just like another Canadian woman. You know who's that is too good for too long? Everybody's sweetheart, Shane Torres. Everybody's sweetheart. My name is Ian Carmel at Ian Carmel on a blue sky Instagram at IK cooled you on

On YouTube you can follow me there With a pair of headphones that are blowing it so hard right now Okay, I can hear I think I think I'm gonna god. Do This is great podcasting. Hold on Lock it lock it. Can't hear us God my god now I can hear you now. I can hear you. Oh my god Like a kid getting dropped off at the mall for the first time You can watch my special comfort beyond God's foresight which Jesse said very nice things about in vulture

For free on YouTube right now. Jesse, thank you again for that lovely review. I really appreciate it. That was really good. But you can watch it for free on YouTube. Check it out, send it to your friends. Give it a watch. I'm really proud of it.

It's fantastic. And if you watched it, go ahead and play it again and just kind of leave it on while you're doing it. Keep it on the background, dude. Let's get those numbers up. It ain't bad. It ain't bad. It ain't bad. Is it, okay, is it true that one YouTube account,

you can only get one view per account? You get what I'm saying? Like my, if I'm logged into YouTube and I watch your special 50 times, do you get credit for 50 or just the one? That can't be because some of these like, there's like stuff with like billions and billions and billions of views.

Like a BTS song, right? because some of these like there's like stuff with like billions and billions and billions of views like like like a Like a BTS song right like has like 200 I don't think it's true. Okay, there's two wait how many there's not 200 billion people on the planet. Yeah 98 year old grandmother's in, Spain, just running back butter. Hey, goo goo, maybe dance. Hey, goo goo. Yeah, and then come see us in New Orleans. Again, it's gonna be so much fun. Yeah, I'll be on the shot with you guys in New Orleans.

Yeah, shots to it. Yeah, he's on Jameson. If you know what I'm saying. Yeah, thanks for talking me out of buying that shirt that just said Jameson on it, by the way. Yeah, 40. That was a good move. Yeah. Yeah, he's on Jameson. If you know what I'm saying. Yeah, thanks for talking me out of buying that shirt that just had Jameson on it, by the way. Yeah, 40. That was a good move. Yeah. 43. I was like, it fits, it's green,

I got a lot of green shirts, that's what I was thinking. It was like St. Patrick's Day, like free bar merch that they were marking up a buffalo exchange and you were like, ooh. It had a website on the, I didn't notice until after I texted you guys, had a website on the back top of it. So that's the worst.

Where you're like, oh, so they just gave it to a bar. Also legally it had to have a mothers against drunk driving icon on the bottom of the shirt too. Yeah. I used to have a Jekrmeister shirt I wore all the time. They can't just give them out anymore without. No. We are drafting our all time SNL cast.

So we can talk about Matt all day, but we are drafting our all time SNL cast. We can talk about Matt all day, but we are drafting our all time SNL cast, trying to put together our ideal cast. Again, that is the four of us trying to put together our ideal cast. The way we determine the order of this draft is through a rollicking game of rock, paper, scissors.

This play between the three of you, and we throw on shoot. Here we go. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot! Oh no! Oh, Jesse wins! A scissors against two papers. Jesse, as the winner, it is incumbent upon you

to determine the order of today's draft. Before you do that, I will remind you, it is a serpentine draft. And what is that? It's a great question. It's like playing shoot the duck at the fair. Keep going. Oh, very nice.

All right, yeah. Truly in your Hemingway area. It's getting playing shoot the duck at the fair. Keep going. Oh, very nice. All right, yeah. Truly in your Hemingway area. It's getting shorter and shorter. That was almost a high two. I like it though. I love it too. I'm sure everybody does. I got enough people being like, hey, with the speed it up.

A three minute explanation. Speed it up. Speed up the duck. Basically, if you pick fourth in the first round, you pick first in the second round. Now, Jesse, with that in mind, what will the order of today's draft be? David, then me, then Sean, then Ian.

Desi, David, Jesse, Sean. Ian at the end there. Desi Javid. Desi Javid. He's in BTS. That sounds so funny, but that's, that sounds like a funny name. Desi Javid, Jordan. Desi Javid so funny, but that's he. Sounds like a funny name. Desi Javid Jordan.

Desi Javid got kicked out of Destiny's Child, he was the one guy. We had a guy. We had a guy for a while. Man, I would be sour. That guy doesn't fit. Nobody believes you. We're just in a subway, just like, no, I was in it. I was in it.

I'm Destiny. Two days before the... I'm Destiny. I'm Destiny. Desi J in it. I'm Destiny. I'm Destiny Key. I'm Destiny. Destiny Jayden. It's me. You're just sitting there,

you know Beyonce was my girlfriend. So. It was my idea to wear cargo pants, sort of love. Yeah. I was the first guy doing it. I was the name they were saying. The song was called Yes, Yes, Yes,

and I changed it. Nobody gives a shit. I wanted a fourth Bill's on there. The song was called Yes Yes Yes and I changed it. Nobody gives a shit. I wanted a fourth Bill's on there. Anyways, you want a foot long cookie or what? David, you have the first pick in the SNL building your all time cast draft and we're gonna get to that pick right after this short break. This episode of All Fantasy, everything is brought to you by Factor.

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David Bori, it's time for your first pick. I think that I, this is the first name that came to mind as far as a utility player. You need a straight man. You mean somebody who can do everything. I gotta take Phil Hartman. God damn, okay, yeah. I think he's the backbone.

I think he's the, I think you can, I think if you have him, you can kind of bust any move, any scenario, you can put him in and he's gonna nail it. His nickname was Glue. They called him like Glue when he was on the cast because like you truly could put him in it. He could also, he could play this great guy. He can also play some very silly characters too.

He can give you both. Oh man. And he's so cutting. Yeah. Which is what I like. Oh man, and he's so cutting When he was the the Alcatraz What am I talking about? The fucking Alcatraz tour guide and so I married an axe murderer. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah Oh, man, that guy does more with like two minutes than anybody can do in a lifetime of comedy. He's just so fucking funny.

His impression of Bill Clinton, he's like giving a speech, like post-jog, Adam McDonald's, where he's like picking up, like demonstrating his point. Grabbing all the food. Intercepted by warlords, and they're like taking big. I think it was actually McMuffin's Isaac. I think it was McMuffin's Isaac.

I think they were. And he had the towel under his sweatshirt like Rocky, right? Yeah. Did you ever, okay, did you ever go through, I went through that phase where I'd go to the gym and I would do the towel on my neck like that, like I needed it for any reason. You went through that phase in the aughts?

Yeah, yeah. When I was running a bunch. I don't even know why Rocky had it. What's it meant to do? Is it like you try to make you sweatier? I don't know, but Rocky did it and I was like, all right, I'll do it. I'm at the gym.

I figured I was doing gym shit, but anyway. I guess I assumed it's for access to your towel. Like probably. Just to wipe your head, not to. I was trying to have a beef up my neck a little bit. Let him know. Just let him know me and Rocky are doing the same thing. Little Hans and Franz is what you were trying to do.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, dude. The caveman lawyer, holy buckets. Oh yeah. The goofiest. That is what sticks out to me where it's like, this is so goofy. That's what I want. me where it's like, this doesn't, this is so goofy. That's what I want.

You know? We see the anal retentive chef too. Is that his? And we'll just fold that up right there. Yeah. Yeah. He was truly amazing. That is a great, kind of a surprising number one pick,

but when you start to dig in. I feel like there's so many superstars available in this draft that you have to kind of like, you're going to get super, everybody's going to get superstars. Everybody can draft a list full of superstars. Absolutely. I hear you. So you need sort of like team components.

But this is an interesting point about like what makes a good SNL cast, which is you can't have five Kobe's on the court at the same time, right? No, no, no you do need those dudes. No, no, no, no, no one's safe. I mean, it's a really good strategy. And like looking at my list, and there are fewer all around players that are of that super level of a like,

and there are these like, basically every 10 years, there is a generational talent. Right, right. They're building a show around. Right. Sometime, going back, preparing for for this draft there were a couple sketches I was watching where they were like they were on together where you're like those are two Generational talents where you're like you think of them in different eras and there's some of those late

We set his name a bunch late will ferrell where you're like that guy he was on with that, dude Yeah, how long well you know what whenever he comes up? We'll talk we'll bring it up when he's about to come up Yeah, how long well, you know what whenever he comes up we'll talk we'll bring it up when he's about to come up Jesse David Fox you have the second pick so in my head there are The three there are three greatest cast members who when they were on the show they felt like it was they were the protagonist of SNL and everyone else was filling it out and They were the protagonist of SNL and everyone else was filling it out. And the one I will pick is Will Ferrell, who I believe is the greatest cast member because not only was he a star when he was a star, but like the thing that they would always

say about him is like, if the sketch was bad, he'd give everything. If the sketch was great, he'd give everything. He could be just a dad in a sketch and be like perfect in it, but he can, he could do George W. Bush and it'd be iconic and it's like just the consummate as no cast member three best of DVDs which is a record yeah and so it's like you know so much is covered because he'll like do big characters so knock out half the show and then you'll just like like to have him around he has almost a Phil Hartman ability to kind of be gluey because he was doing that his first few years in the show when he's more supporting

and you just like You basically like got a lot of it settled and just so much that is just like Cowbell, you know like from everything. It's just like he's will ferret One of the most like the tiny cell tiny cell phone. The tiny cell phone. Like just that alone. You remember the big one too. He had the giant cell phone too. It was crazy, those sketches.

In like the, in the superstar sketches where he's like still playing like an outlandish character. He's not the craziest one. He's still like providing a bedding for, I mean, I guess we're just gonna kind of have to say the names. You can save people, it's fine, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna have to. Yeah, for, Jesus Christ.

Molly? Molly Shannon, yeah, yeah. Where he's like, I'm still, I'm crazy, I'm meeting you at the energy where you're at, I'm not like looking at you sideways, but I'm still like sitting back, letting you be the star of the sketch. Oh no, I'm thinking of the cheerleaders, not superstars.

You're thinking of Sherry O'Tary. Sherry O'Tary, yeah, that's why my brain confusion. Yeah, the cheerleader sketch, yeah. Did you see the SNL 51 where he was in the, where they were the prison? And he screwed up and he just looks, he's like, I'm trying. Yeah. It's so funny, cause it just, you know,

I'm not splitting the atom here, but that's the whole fun part about the live you know, I'm not splitting the atom here, but that's the whole fun part about the live show, when somebody can be that in the moment and still go right back into character. Like break a little bit, let you know that they're just, it's just, he makes it so fun. And he didn't seem nervous.

The Neil Diamond, when he was doing, like when he's going out doing the Neil Diamond, and someone's like, yeah, Will! And he looks at the crowd, he's like, yeah, Neil. You imagine how icy you'd feel right after you said that. You'd be like, oh, I got it. The dude is fully like, yeah, you're just so in pocket in that moment.

He's so funny. And also like, there's multiple sketches that are, the stories are he put on smaller clothes than the other cast members knew and that's what sold the sketch. There's that happened with Cowboy, but there's also literally the episode after 9-11. The sketch was just like he would wear American flag shorts, but he'd found even smaller shorts with American flag on the butt,

and he was like, is this a true American flag song? And it's truly like healing the nation quality comedy, but taken to a degree that no one else would think to do and partly because he knew if the cast members are laughing everyone will be a little bit more relaxed and he like understood the spirit of the show like Truly like no one I think really ever has also his physical comedy was as good as his verbal like just like In cowbell just his posture just think as good as his verbal. Like, just like, in Cowbell, just his posture.

Just think about how funny his posture was in that, you know what I mean? Like, yeah. His body, that weird line in his torso is like one of the greatest comedic weapons of all time. And also, he's got a scar where it looks like he had maybe the second appendicitis ever. That's what I'm talking about,

that like big one in his stomach, yeah, yeah. And he just embraces it, it's awesome. I kinda just think he, it's just a weird grown man fold. I think he's just got a weird grown man body. He sat a certain way in his car for like 10 years and that's what happened. Yeah. His, the lover sketch, him in the hot tub,

you know, like our bodies swollen on Goat Mate, like that is just so, kind of like, again, like invented a kind of comedic character. Well, like all those, all the movies that came after that, you can see that character, like that essence in those movies where he's just riffing and the cast just trying to deal with it. That stuff, like the real detailed.

The sort of man-child comedy, like the Judd Apatow stuff that came a little, like after, really. I mean, I know Judd Apatow was writing stuff before, obviously, but like. But like Frank the Tank or something where he's just, it's so good once it hits you, I know Judd Abitow was like writing stuff before, obviously, but like. But like Frank the Tank or something, where he's just, it's so good once it hits, you know, that seems like he developed that on SNL. He definitely moved it forward, like that,

where that became, oh shit. I'm the first one that ever thought of that, so that's cool that I pointed that out to the world. That's where it came from. I see. Yeah, Will Ferrell. A genius, Sean Jordan. Will Ferrell. A genius. Sean Jordan.

Yeah, perfect. A genius, a genius pick. Sean Jordan. Uh, I went, I wanted to get my weekend update pick first. I wanted somebody who could do weekend update. That was my, and then four people who can like fill in. But this person did weekend update. They were in sketch.

They were fantastic. But my favorite of all time, first name that popped up, Norm MacDonald. Wow. Love him. Wow. This is not going to get all how I thought it was gonna go. No way.

It does speak to that different, I mean it makes sense because again, well if you know there's one of that, and then there is this other pool, then you're gonna wanna overbid and bid in first round. And you can fill it out. I have taken to trying to have a little more confidence in myself in these drafts because after 430 or so,

I've realized that if I try to switch, I get a strategy and if I try to switch it, it just doesn't go my way sometimes. So I gotta stick. I gotta stick with what I thought of last night. Well, it's like what David was saying, there's talent everywhere. You could pick, we could pick,

we could eliminate the consensus top 25 cast members and still have an amazing cast afterwards. Exactly. But Norah, it comes from, I mean, so revered comedically, but just in my opinion, the best weekend update. And also I got to open forum a couple times and hear stories about just him doing weekend update.

And that was bonkers to me. That was like a life thing where I'm sitting in this green room with Norm MacDonald and I'm the only one around, so he had to talk to me. But just telling me these stories and it was nuts. I just, he's just such a legend. People throw that word around, but he really is. And yeah, the best weekend update to me.

So that's- You guessed it. Frank Stallone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Also, I mean, like one of the greatest, he got fired and like, I think when he came back and was hosting, like, what was his joke? Like, we had a, Lauren and I had a disagreement. I wanted to keep working here.

And he had other ideas. It was something like that. And just that little smile, that little smirk on his face every time. This, it just gets you. Gotta have a fearless comic. This is not about his SNL so much as his standup. Like, you could take his transcript of jokes

and like give them to almost any other comedian and they would go up and maybe bomb. Yeah. With a lot of them, you know what I mean? Like his delivery was so like slow and confident, it feels so like integral to. It's shocking, it makes people think they can do it. That's one of the things, he watched Norm MacDonald

and the average person is sitting there thinking, I could do that, that's not hard at all. Then you realize how hard it really is to do what he does. That's comedy in general, right? Yeah, it is, it is. One of the funniest things, yeah that's true, yeah. He's so happy that kids can do it, I can do it.

I think, I think at least dudes, 95% of them are like, yeah. I could dress like a teenager and go up and talk about shit for an hour. Yeah, every dude thinks he could give it a go in E.P.I. And maybe that's right, but don't try. No. No.

But like the Norm MacDonald joke, I think I think about the most is like the first thing that happens after you die is you are found. It's not even a joke. And I just think about it like I think about it all the time. And the first time I heard it, it made me laugh so hard because it's true. But now all I think about is that. Yeah, too much. I lay in bed staring into the darkness.

I always think about his Conan, my favorite Norm thing is his Conan with where they're talking about Chairman of the Board with, god damn it, that woman who's on Milro's place, Courtney, Courtney Thorne Smith. But anyway, that's my it's just just shows him Writing in real time just sitting on that couch thinking of jokes. He's yeah, he's just fantastic. I Find myself looking at a book like I didn't think I was gonna have this many people to choose from

Yeah, that's what I'm saying I went That was the hardest thing when we said this to me is like, how do you narrow it? I thought it would be like maybe 20 people on my list, but then I'm going through the wiki and I was like, all right, take everyone who you might put on the list. And it ended up being 40, I think. And then I just kind of had to leave it up to God and see how she wanted to play it. You know, because there's like, you have a list of like 30 personal favorites hypothetically and a list of 30 like the greatest But like you can make a full version of each Yeah, and now you it's five is crazy five is really tough. No, there's a reason the cast is usually like Eleven. Yeah, the cast is never five. We're going We're going wild. Right, they're going to the Groundlings

and having the same thing that we're doing, where they're like, I want them all! All right. This feels weird. Taking them, I'm gonna take Bill Hader with my first bet. That's not weird. That ain't weird at all. That's not weird at all.

Yeah. He's another one of those guys who can kind of do anything. He can kind of do anything. Like, he couldn't be, he can't do Weekend Update. There's a very few people who can. But he can kind of do everything else. He can be your guest on Weekend Update. I mean, obviously, like.

Yeah, was it Stefan? The best of that, yeah, Stefan. But like, his characters were all so funny. Like his, like him, especially like, cause he was like teamed up with like John Mulaney and the two of them were just sort of like going off when he was on SNL. But like the Keith Morrison,

he would even like one-off characters. Dude, he's fantastic. I don't think it's crazy at all. He's fantastic. Like the Keith Morrison, even like one-off characters. Dude, he's fantastic. I don't think it's crazy at all. He's fantastic. He is one of the people who can be, I believe, almost dramatic, you know? Like I could see him being serious. I'm like, oh, look at this guy.

Well, Barry. I don't think of it as silly. Yeah. And like can do most impressions, which was like. His Pacino? you just see. Yeah, you have to have that, you have to have that. Right, he would slide in there and do like an Alan Alda that was so accurate, but still,

because there's the thing they say about the impressions, is that like, do you capture the reality or do you capture the essence of them? And he's somebody who could kind of do both of those things with his impressions. Yeah, and you turn them into characters that are bigger than people's interest. I have almost no interest in maybe more than one appearance of James Cardwell on SNL. It was even a relevant political figure when they wrote that. But his version of James Cardwell made it so like so like oh this is just a way for him and like Malaney to

Talk about the news of the day through this like snake man. Yeah. Yeah So fucking funny His and his Al Pacino is like what the greatest Al Pacino that's like ever been done before that's so much fun That is out but she is like the perfect over the top too, you know? Yeah. Yeah, that's a really fun impression. But like, but it's old Pacino. He does like old like gravelly like in the pocket.

He's that Italian Charlie Rose, Veni, Veni, whatever. Veni Vidiici. Yeah, Veni Vidiici. He doesn't even speak English in the entire sketch, but he's just like, so funny and so silly. That's, I think my favorite SNL characters are just like so silly. And I'm gonna get to my second pick.

I have to go to the bathroom. I'll be right back. We're back. We have some technical difficulties. Isaac, if you wanna play some of that jangly piano music, the technical difficulties were, I think I am in the early stages of food poisoning right now.

So we're going to call this the Ian Carmel flu game. Because- Ha ha ha ha! We should call it your poo game. My poo game, the Ian Carmel poo and through game. But I'm going to, I took Bill Hader and- Winnie the Flew. Bill Hader certainly deserves being a number one pick,

of course, but I think I took him instead of who, the number two pick, because I kind of froze and couldn't believe who was available. I'm taking Eddie Murphy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was gonna be my second pick. I didn't know if I could get to him, but. The, the like- The superstar, but yeah. The, like.

The superstar. The superstar. The superstar of all superstars. I, I mean, just because of age-wise, like Will Ferrell is my superstar cast member, right? That was like when I was watching the most SNL, that was the guy. But when you start going back, and comedy,

especially Saturday, I mean all comedy, age is like milk, right? For the mean all comedy, ages like milk, right? For the most part, it ages like milk. You can go back and watch those first few seasons of SNL. It's all problematic. You know, it's gonna be rough. Well, I don't even mean it. It's not even problematic, it's just weird to me.

Yeah. But I'm like, okay. Because the cultural references, you don't really understand, like it's funny in a different way. It's the kind of funny that has been like deconstructed in the comedy that you grew up watching, you know, like in a way that like,

so if you go back and watch and no shame, it's still like funny in a very like simple, simple is like, if you go back and watch like cheeseburger, cheeseburger, cheeseburger, you know, like. That's exactly what I was thinking about where you're like, okay. Yeah or like is that the whole bit? That's the whole the whole bit. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's funny and no one's ever done that before and like it's silly and you're watching You're like, haha, but like whatever cultural touchstones It was playing on no longer exists for you Whatever thing on the zeitgeist

it may or may not have been riffing on is no longer prescient for you. And then for me anyway, you get to Eddie Murphy and you're like, oh, this is funny. This is like, still makes me laugh. And he feels like in many ways, like kind of the first modern like comedy star to come out of SNL. Yeah. And I mean, he, he, would you say he was the first one to go nuclear in the way that he did?

In my life, like Eddie Murphy, post SNL, Mid, was like one of the biggest movie stars, right? He was the biggest movie, one of the biggest movie stars in the country while he was on the cast. Yes. Right. Did Beverly Hills Cop come out while he was on the cast? Yeah. I think so.

No, man, that's 48 hours. 48 hours. 48 hours. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If Chevy stayed, Chevy would be kind of close. Chevy was like one of the biggest stars in the country almost right afterwards. But there's only been like 10 movie stars in the history of film that were as big as Eddie Murphy was. Right. Yeah.

That's nuts. It's like Charlie Chaplin, Eddie Murphy. Right. Right. You truly have to like start getting into that level of people. And he was doing those movies while he was doing like James Brown hot tub which is just so fucking funny and doing you know like mr. the mr. Rogers but mr. Robinson's mr. Robbins neighborhood kid that's also crazy he was like 19 when he got on it like yeah he was like 19 and he did that live from New York. It's the Eddie Murphy show which is crazy Wait, what'd he do? You never saw that? Like he was supposed to say live from New York. It's Saturday night or whatever He said it's the Eddie Murphy show

Not wrong. Yeah Just wild move. But he saved the show so no one could be mad There was no version of the show. If he didn't exist, the show just would have ended. Like after, it would have been like Joe Piscopo would be like a fun factoid and then we all would have moved on. Right. Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He would have ended up, he would have been like in a sitcom. His Buckwheat character, like to the big, like, to the insane lengths that they took it where he was getting, like, assassinated in the streets of New York. The Gumby character was so funny playing like an old Jewish guy, like an old Jewish, like, showbiz veteran, which would like, I mean, like, you'd see that character, like, coming to America, but as an actual Jewish dude. Um, just so funny, so silly, so insanely talented.

Like his singing voice when he was doing Stevie Wonder. That's amazing. Eddie Murphy's one of those performers that I think can do it. There's a few people out there where you're like, oh, they can do anything. And Eddie Murphy's one of those. He can do anything.

He's also, I don't know how the rest of this draft is gonna shake out. I might not get a traditional weekend update person. I believe Eddie Murphy could, cause I'll be pooping the whole time. Ah. I kinda think Eddie Murphy. You're gonna auto draft her to you.

I'm gonna auto, I'm gonna send it to auto draft. I'm gonna end up with Dak Crescott with my third pick. He could, he could have done weekend update. I think he could have hosted weekend update. I think if he wasn't already doing everything else on the show, my one hesitation with Eddie Murphy, even though he's obviously like this nuclear star, is like, you don't really think about who else

was on the cast of that. It was Joe Piscopo. Maybe that's because it was a weak cast, but like. Or was it weak because he was such a shining star? You know, like what if you take him out? Would they have been... He also doesn't seem super that into... Like a Foo Fighters Nirvana thing.

Like he doesn't seem... I didn't watch the 50's, so I don't know. But he doesn't seem that engaged with the history of it. Like when I read the book and stuff like that, he's not in it. Yeah, well that was... The book was written when he was mad at the show still. Because David Spade made a joke about, in the 90s, made a joke about Eddie, and Eddie like did not talk to the show for about 20 years.

And actually don't, until around the 40s, like Lorne made amends. And now he's kind of been around a little bit. He hosted one time, he was in the 50s a bunch. He was great. He was great of the 50th a bunch. He was great. Yeah, he was great. He was great in the 50th. And that's with Eddie, that's a good pick because you get, this is something that was factoring into my list,

was like I want somebody who could be a host on my list, like somebody who could host the show if they had to. So he's like a, he's a good host, yeah. Oh yeah. You got to see him in 50, him and Will Ferrell like in the same sketch and it was, it was cool to see him surrounded by, him and Will Ferrell, like in the same sketch. And it was cool to see him surrounded by, and when he came back to host,

like surrounded by like really capable funny comedians. And he did fit in when they were doing that, like it was like a cake. It was like one of the cake things. That shit is the funniest dude. The like one that like speaks backwards and catches on fire. Like his like, his haunted devil cake. That was so funny.

And he was playing like a sub dude. He was like just like a very regular, like playing a sub dude guy. He's one of those guys that you remember that you hear is still got it. Like, you know how you hear some people and they're like, ah, that guy wasn't fun. I've never heard anybody talk about Eddie Murphy

like privately, not be like, that guy's the funniest guy in the world. I can't remember who wrote it. Maybe Michael Che was talking about it, but when they, so Eddie did Tracy Morgan at the 50th. He did an impression of Tracy Morgan. Oh my God. And how it worked was they called Eddie and were like, hey

We're thinking would you maybe want to do Tracy and then he just in like a black Jeopardy sketch and then he just improvised essentially everything he ended up saying on the broadcast It's like oh I could do maybe like this and then he just sort of like does yeah, they like write it all down Yeah, yeah Like that. Yeah, that might work. That might work. They were like, Lord, we wrote this thing for Eddie. We're gonna see if he likes it. Don't listen to the phone call, we wrote it. Yeah, Eddie Murphy, man, one of the greats.

His, like, still funny, like, not doing standup anymore, but I forget whose Mark Twain Prize it was that he came out and spoke at the end of it. His own? Who is it? His own? Who is it? His own Mark Twain prize? Did he get the Mark Twain? Oh, it was probably his own.

Yeah, yes it was. And he came out at the end and was like so funny. Was like, not stale, like doing like new standup basically. It was amazing. He's still funny. Might be the funniest person who's ever lived. Ha, him, Jerry Stiller. Yes, and the man with our next pick, Sean Jordan.

Somebody, oh, my buddy JP the other day, we were talking about Jerry Stiller, and he told me who Jerry Stiller was. It was so funny. We were talking about him, he's like, yeah, it's Ben Stiller's dad, you know, and I'm like, I fucking know that. Yeah.

It was crazy. I've never had it, anyway, sorry. You know, Ben Stiller's doing some directing these days. Yeah, dude. Might I fucking know that. It was crazy, I've never had, anyway, sorry. You know Ben Sellers is doing some directing these days. Might wanna look into that. Twisted my brain into a pretzel the other night. Discoveries were made. This is not a Severance podcast. I'm gonna pick my juggernaut,

I'm gonna go the gentleman Chris Farley. Sure, absolutely. Of course. Same era as Norm, but I just need that, the physical comedy obviously, but I just need that. The physical comedy, obviously, but I just, I gotta have my superstar, my asteroid just flying in. Also, just a good vibe, like everybody's favorite dude when you hear people talk about him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just beloved. That has always been, you know, who doesn't wanna be liked? Everybody liked the guy. So like you never hear a bad thing. The only bad thing you hear is like, he did a lot of drugs. That's the only bad thing.

Everyone's like, I wish he didn't do drugs because then he'd still be around. But just so, so fun. Hit me right in my goofball little, whatever age I was, right in the pocket where I'm like, this is it. This is how it goes. with like with all of these pics I kind of wanted to like dig into him and like try to find some of the stuff where it's like, okay

well people have talked about that like his big sketches to death and with Chris Farley, it's kind of tough cuz like So many of his sketches became big iconic sketches, you know, like it's it's kind of hard to talk about the B side He's in my favorite SNS The gay beer one Who I saw one the other day this goes back to Phil Harbin, but it was like the it was they're like the bad idea Jeans or something. Yeah, bad idea genes. You remember that? It was like David,

no, no. So, one day it's just like, I forget who said it, but he's like, yeah, I just don't think I'm gonna work on them anymore. Anyway, yeah, just those, those crazy goofy, that's what, that's what I like, just ridiculous, van by the river, goofy, doesn't need to make a ton of sense.

Just laugh and forget about it. The Patrick Swayze Chippendale sketches may be the most. It's like you can't do an SNL, like sizzle reel without that appearing somewhere in there. Also just like the loveliness he played that character with and like so many of his characters, which was like the, now I feel like somebody

on like a talking head show saying this shit. They're like, hey, could you say this about Chris? But like, and I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's so cliche. I hate it, but like the child, like that sort of like childlike energy he had to himself of like the big out of control, like toddler, you know, they did like the Paul McCartney sketch, but also like when they were backstage

in the Chippendales one where he's like, oh, you were so good, man. Where they were like, you just had this innocence and beauty to him too that was so nice, man. There's a reason people love that because everybody loses that at some point. So yeah, I don't think it's, it's great to talk about. That's a good thing. What the fuck?

Keep it in the world. What? Sorry, my audio went weird, sorry. I thought you just didn't understand what it's talking about. I was like, I thought I was being pretty crazy. David's like, well, no, I think you should. I never lost that, what are you talking about? I think that's stupid.

I hate it! I still have my childlike innocence right now. What the fuck are you talking about? I gotta go look at the balloon just blew by my window. I gotta go. There's a frog outside. You gotta go laughing about, Ian has to leave to poop every 15 minutes.

I mean, that's pretty funny. Sorry, I'm sorry, that's a bummer for you, but you're holding it well, man. You're doing a good job. Wipe and sweat from your head like, yeah. I'm all right. Jesse,, I mean Chris Barley. Yeah, beautiful. Jesse David Fox time for your second pick this is hard because I believe there are two a level stars

Not mentioned that I have to pass up because to build a full cast I need a person who can do and everything and so I'm picking Keenan Thompson. Yeah, beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. That's a backbone. That's a backbone. Who's been doing everything for so long you don't even realize how much he does for the show He just like just a new personal show up It's like cool I can do Kendrick Perkins and just because it's time for someone to do Kendrick Perkins, and it feels like he's been doing Kendrick Perkins for decades, as well as he can play

a game show host, he can play talk show host, he can, he can sing if they need singing and the thing that like, I remember I once wrote about how she deserved with Emmy and it's like before every episode of SNL starts, the thing that happens right before it is Keenan sings a song to the audience. Like that, he sings, uh, give me some loving with like, and then a rotating cast of the female cast members sing backup. And like, he is, he currently does that. He still does it.

Yeah. He's been doing it for like 20 years. Yeah. I think I've seen that happen. Yeah. Yeah, he does. He did it. He even did it at the, so I went to the SNL 50th concert. Steve Winwood, original singer of that song, by the way.

So he went to the, at the concert, he did it before the concert started. They had them do that. Oh, that's sick. And that, that sort of like being the lifeblood, the first show that changes so much to have someone who can like constantly be like, this is how we do it. This is what the goal is.

This is the energy. A person's so comfortable. and also like any sketchy is and he can make fun here just because like someone's being crazy. They can cut to Keenan being like, what? And then you're like, OK, well, now, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you just need it because you just need the show to be filled out. And you're like, OK, cool. If you've got at this point now of Will and Keenan,

you're building a cast, you're building a week of shows. They weren't together, right? They might have briefed. I mean, I'd be like, maybe Kenan's first couple years. Well Kenan's been there 21 years and what years it literally would be either Will's last year or his first year was Will's. Yeah.

It was like right after Will left. Right after Will got done. It's, saw him, you don't see a lot of serious, saw him on a podcast and he had on like shades and a chain and a deep voice and wasn't being funny at all and it was such a crazy thing to see where I'm like, oh no, yeah, of course, he's just a dude. But it's crazy when you hear him, just be serious.

He's one of the ones where I'm like, that's tough, it'd be tough to watch you at the bank or something. And he's got goons, you know, if you ask Chris Red about it. That's what, you know how Gloria still doesn't believe me, by the way, she's like, that wouldn't happen. I'm like, what world are you living in?

Yes, it would. I know guys that could do that, so does he. You know guys who could do that. Yeah, I know guys that would do that for me if I I mean it wouldn't be that hard so You know guys who would do it for Keenan Now now Guys that would do it and I have nothing to do with it and they were just doing it and they don't even know me But Jesse you're so right. He can he can like play Levar Ball and be like incredibly silly

or he can be like host Black Jeopardy and he can do that too and be very funny doing that. Yeah, you know, like the ability to get joke lines before the sketch starts is like one of the hardest things to do on that show. And like any time he's just playing host, he gets a couple jokes at the beginning before the sketch starts and like that's added, that's added value. That's putting points on the board. Even like in Black Jeopardy,

like him like going over with Tom Hanks, you know, like, yes, yes, just like doing that. That first one. Yeah, that first one was crazy. Something even like Will Ferrell would like, sometimes wouldn't always get you extra laughs as Trebek. He was like purely, you know, like there to, a wall for them to throw stuff off of, you know, but like, he didn't will. Yeah, he knows how to like lower the level, almost like remove this, the character of

the character a little bit to be like talk more like a normal person does and then play back up. And that's real hard. And then also do what up, like what up with that. Or like truly like whatever the writers needed. It's like, you think about the fact that before they had gay cast members, like James Anderson almost exclusively put Keenan

in all those roles, like host. Right. And he can just do it. And you're like, all right, cool. Right. And he can just do it. And you're like, all right, cool. Like there's so many sketches where it's like, he's singing like gay club anthems because like that's, he just can pull it off.

Yeah. He's a true five tool player. Yes. David, time for your second and third picks. Oh man, it's, now I'm doing this thing in my head where I'm worried we're gonna leave We are many superstars on the board Does that make sense? You know what I'm saying? Well, yeah

I'm gonna go a little I'm gonna get a little cutty on the next but it's like in the way that I have Phil Hartman First I feel like he's like the far I want to go with the complete the other side you need a total wild card, a maniac, someone who it's almost music more than it is comedy, right? I got to take Tracy Morgan. I started writing it down before you said it. It's not a description. I just like, just his face when they cut to Maya Angel.

Or I'll sharp it. You just need somebody who's nuts. You need a crazy person. I feel like he embodies that. One of the SNL documentaries that like got made in this, in like by NBC in the lead up to this, I think he starts off with like just saying like, but like, but are you funny? It's something to that extent. And it's like this, this ineffable quality and that dude just is, he's just fun.

It's just everything he does. There's like a few people that you see sometimes and you're like, ah, that's just a whole area. He could be, he could read the news. You know what I mean? Yeah. Mandel. Yeah. Yeah. Man, did I tell him, this is just for a second. No, Mandel Yeah Man, did I tell him just for a second? Tell him no Mandel we were talking and he's on those epic and he was like he's like my going away show I'm gonna do I'm gonna do a shot of over Zepic on stage and throw it in the crowd and I was like, alright

Yeah, right. And then I saw on his Instagram story last night, I was like, you did it? And then he was like, what did he, he said the, he replied with the funniest thing in the world. I think it was like, oh, let me, I have to, this is so inside baseball. I don't think it, I mean, those clips, his clips have been going hammer time, dude. Oh, the internet, the internet.

People love that guy. Oh yeah, he said, I said, you really did it and he said hashtag rock star lifestyle Well, this this will be a now so The vulture is presenting a new LA bi-weekly comedy show co-hosted by Mandel. Oh, yeah Called guaranteed every other Tuesday at bi-weekly comedy show co-hosted by Mandel. Oh, man. Skylar Higley. Oh, I love Skylar. Nice. It's called Guaranteed, every other Tuesday at the Lyric Hyperion. But truly it was like, we talked about it.

I was like, I don't know who to host. Mandel mentioned maybe moving to LA. I was like tracking down his content. And it's like very funny to email with Mandel. You're like, it's like you gotta do it. Because he's, anytime, his podcast clips are low., you're like, it's so rare as a podcast guest be breakthrough comedian. But like it just couldn't even talk when we were using the show. I could barely talk. My face was so red.

People in the comments like, why is that dude's face all red? Yeah. Alcohol and Mandel. You combine those two things. Give me a red face. That's how it gets real red. And that has been your Tracy Morgan. But yeah, I just think that's like, so now I need like that middle. Man, see, this is where we can start to misstep. I feel like. You know what I mean?

I'm happy I haven't misstepped yet. It's been, they've both been well received. I'm happy, I feel like I'm doing a good job. This is where we could really bust some weird moves. Hm. Maya Rudolph. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was gonna be my next one.

Yeah. Also can sing. Also can sing. Nice to have someone that can sing. Can sing, can do anything. Well she should, it's in the blood. Yeah, seriously. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Funny, straight, plays it all.

I think the perfect centerpiece. Like you forget how good her, like how crazy her characters could be too. She would go nuts, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And could like elevate material. Like you give her lines and she can just say them differently.

And as a result, you're like, like Seth Meyers wrote, remember like, I think it's the Emmys, they did like a brief tribute to Lauren. It was like Seth Bowen, Kristen Wiig and Maya. And there's something about basically she was like, instead of saying you've been robbed, Lorne from whatever she's like, you've been robbed. And it's like Seth knew writing for Maya, he could just add more syllables to a word and she will sell it.

Yeah. She her her I know why the cage bird laughs sketch Is one that's like forever like? Miss Angela was this an act of malice no brother West it was an act of whim's ass Fuck man, she's so funny. And yeah, and so talented. One of those like, well, I mean, because of racism, I was gonna say if she was in the 50s,

she would have been even, but talent wise, if you put that person, she would have been this massive movie star, I really think that. She can sing, she's funny, she's silly, She's classy. She can like do everything, you know, yeah Yeah One of the most exciting we should have done a lightning round for writers too we could do that we could do the end Listen, you got a poop All the time now Jesse time for your third pick.

Um, so, this is... As I mentioned, I think there's four sort of protagonists in the show's history, and one I did not think would last this long, but because she is here, she will be almost underserved with the amount of stage time, but I'm picking Kristen Wiig, who I think is gonna be next, who I think is the most precise sketch comedian that's ever existed and can do anything. And just like, truly, they're like, every audition, every character she did in our audition

and she did Bunch became t-shirt level successes on the show. Like truly Target Lady to, I don't know if she auditioned with Gilly, but like truly just like, the first half of every show was just like, here's Kristen Wiig doing the things she came up with, while also she can turn impressions into characters. She can sing. She could also like do understated in like sort of shorts, like digital shorts. Um. Yeah, like the of shorts, like digital shorts. Yeah, like the mom jeans, stuff like that. Yeah. I mean, Target Lady turned into an actual Target ad campaign, did it not? Am I making that up?

Yeah, no, it didn't. Yeah. As did the California. It's like truly just like. It was, it was like when she was on the air, writers were like, well, I got to put Kristen on the sketch, otherwise it's not going to get on the air because the show, everyone who went to see that show wanted to see Kristen in it every second she could be in it. I remember Tina was like, Kristen Sarah Palin is better than mine, but like, I look like her or whatever.

Like she truly could do anything and, and elevate it. And again, I think if I was,'s maybe gonna be too much I've hurt her and well at the same time but she's here and she you know trade-off weeks so like kind of it will be like when Philip Seymour Hoffman and John C Riley did true west just switching parts yeah I kind of think they're both I mean Will can but like you said when we were talking about well he can Sit back on somebody. It's a little bit Both like at the SNL 50th. He did Robert Goulet and she did Denise and they're both

Whatever like like petals of the metal like I'm gonna do huge and it works because It's just like they have it in their bones. Just sort of like there's sketch comedy, uh, geniuses. And I think like, you know, like her weekend uptake, I'm just like thinking about what she did to like flirting instructor and it was just electric. And like that is something that I could not pass up on. She would've got, she wouldn't have made it past me if she made it to me.

Sean Jordan. Yeah, that was going to be. That's one of the things. Sean Jordan. Yeah, that was gonna be next. Kris was gonna be next, but as she is gone, I'm keeping it, I guess I'm keeping it kinda goofy. I might have a goofy cast, but I'm gonna go Kate McKinnon. Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She, man.

I didn't like, I didn't. She gets like gutter laughs out of me. Yeah. Like belly laughs, man. Her like alien abduction, watching her in Meryl Streep, holy bucket, when you see Meryl Streep could barely say the lines. I mean, that's, you know you're doing something right. But watching, I didn't really,

I thought I was gonna approach this in the sense of who would be like a nicely congealed cast. And I don't think I'm doing that. But thinking about her and Chris Farley in the same sketch, whatever it would have been. Seems weird to think about that. That's pretty exciting. I know, it's like when they,

it's like that Rocky movie where he's a video game and he fights, but it's like, it would be so funny watching them do whatever they did. I mean, I don't even know what it would be, but it would be, if they were both abducted by aliens, let's say, gotta be tight. But yeah, she's just amazing. Fantastic, everything she's in is funny.

Perfect smirk when she knows it's funny. Just that little like, I know what's going on. Like, I got you. Yeah, she's a little, she does big energy characters like that stuff too, but it's interesting, like her on the cast with Farley, because so much of her stuff is like kind of leaned back. Real subtle. And knowing kind of funny stuff.

Uh, great pick. Hey, thanks, bud. Yeah. I'm happy, I'm happy with the list, how it's shaping up. Get a little weird on the next ones. I'm having, oh. It's tough. It's so hard.

It is tough, I know, because then you get done and this is one of those ones where there's no avoid. What do we have? What, eight picks left or something? I mean, no way. Wow. It's not a lot. While you're contemplating this,

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We've contemplated, we're back. Welcome back to Hall Fantasy Everything, podcast that just took a break. Did I contemplate all the time? Time for me to, you're always contemplating, bro. I'm always in traffic, I contemplate. Time for me to take my third pick. It's so hard to build a cast.

I am going to go with somebody who can anchor Weekend Update, but who can also play funny characters, and who can play straight and stuff, which I need with Bill Hader and Eddie Murphy. I'm gonna take Amy Poehler here. Yeah, that's a, yeah, fantastic thing. She's so funny and she's a different kind of funny than I have like on the cast,

but she can also go big when she needs to. Played, I mean, obviously it was very funny like Hillary Clinton, she can do political, she can do impressions. Yeah, I just really love Amy Poehler. She can play kids. Play kids. SNLU people can play kids. Yes, yes you do. Yeah, I just really love Amy Poehler. She played kids. Played kids.

SNLU people can play kids. Yes, yes you do. And did it on Conan originally, right? Yeah. I don't know if I know what you're talking about. What are you talking about? She played Andy's little sister, right, on Conan. I don't think I've ever seen that, that's awesome.

That's good. She's great. Yeah, she can do anything you need on the show and More and update which is rare right and update you can put her on there. She was in the That very funny jet blue sketch I'm sick. I do need the listeners to know that I'm like I am No, you're doing you're doing Doing all right, but I'm falling apart. I'm like, I am a... No, you're doing everything. I'm doing all right, but I'm falling apart.

I'm trying to deal with this feeling sick. Bronx Beat is also like, she's so funny on that, like playing like that Bronx lady character doing kind of like Linda Richman in the future, which they did with Linda Richman, right? Linda Richman came on, Mike Myers. But yeah, dude, Amy Poehler can do a little bit of everything. And with my fourth pick, I just can't not take him

because he is probably, maybe I've got too much sauce and not enough chip here, but I do have to take Dana Carvey. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. That was the first person I remember ever thinking was funny.

Yeah. Where I'm like, that's funny. First time, first person ever. He, as I said, like I think he's top four cast member in terms of like, if you look at what he did on that show, both character wise and like impression wise, I think he essentially like reinvented how presidential impressions would be done. Yeah. Where like the impression is bigger than the, like the person you're impersonating and lasts far longer. Like no one remembers what H.W. Bush sounds like.

He literally, if anyone ever is like what he sounds like, it is Dana Carvey. Yeah, yeah. Not gonna do it. He didn't sound like that. Prudent. Prudent. Thousand points a lie, wouldn't be prudent.

Wouldn't be prudent. And he also did Ross Perot, right? And Ross Perot. And Ross Perot. Cannot fit it, like truly. Yeah. Fantastic. Yeah, and Garth, you know, so he can kind of sit back

and play like a little bit more of an understated character. I forget about Garth. the master of disguise. Yeah turtle turtle Turtly enough for the turtle club. I forget that Wayne's World was even an SNL sketch sometimes. Yeah Like that just used to be It just used to be on SNL sometimes what's Wayne's World? That's yeah a lot of times like 20 times Yeah, a lot crazy times, like 20 times. Yeah, a lot. It's crazy.

I mean, like, he's had multiple things that he'd done on the show over 20 times. Like, Churchill, I think they would open the show with, which is crazy. Yeah, it's nice. They would open the show with Hans and Franz, which is wild. Yeah, that is.

That's right, I forgot he was Hans and Franz. He's Hans and Franz. What catalog? He's just the best, man. He's maybe my favorite SNL character. Yeah. Great, kind of underrated standup too, I think. His 90s one that they played all the time.

All the time! The critics choice, Mega T, Mega Ti, Mega Tour, Mega Two. Every time I crooked my finger, it's $9 to you. He is touring, I think, right now. Oh, interesting. Yeah, a little information. It's not all hilarious, all right? Sometimes, just a fact.

Just a fact that he missed the SNL 50th. I just give you, no need to Google it now. Yeah, that is unfortunate. It is fortunate he just was sick. It wasn't like a big SNL political reason. Must have had ice cream and pasta the night before or something. You must have. Uh, Sean Timberlake fourth pick. Oh man, this is tough.

Okay. I'm gonna, this is someone that maybe not everybody would have chosen. He is my favorite who didn't explode person, not on the cast, but I just love him so much, is Beck Bennett. I had to pick him. It was gonna be this or that in the last round.

I can tell by Ian's face he's not thrilled about it. I'm not not thrilled, I'm surprised. I love- This is huge, I'm very proud of Beck. He beat out some huge people. He did. And I just had, he's just, he's such a funny, good straight man. He's always like the dumb dad who shoots his dick off

in the prom, in the prom sketch. Like he, I love him. Like the drunk dad who buys a new car. You remember that sketch with him and Eggo Voldemort? He bought a car for the holidays and she's like, it's a car and he's just cracking a beer. He dropped me off at work or whatever. It's- The baby who's the boss, I forget what the,

but like, that's him, right? Like, yeah, it's so funny. I love him. I always loved his sketches. I think he's, and yes, I know there, trust me when I say I know that there's a bunch of people who could be on the list above that. Sean, you listen to your heart, man.

He's funny, man. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm listening to my heart. All right. Listen to my heart. Shout out, Beck. You made the list, Playboy. I'm listening to my heart. Yeah, Beck Bennett, man. I want him in some movies.

He came back for the 50th, but I haven't seen much of him after the show, so I just I'd like some more Beck. I always get excited when he's on. Phenomenal. He took a photo with Beck at the 50th. Too Beck. Beck Bennett shit, dude. He knows how funny that is. Jesse, time for your fourth pick.

This is hard. Beck Bennett's off the board. I know. There's truly like my favorite comedy makers ever I can't do. So you need someone, you got big, big talent who can do their own thing. There's a long history of ethanol. People who kind of like,

they're only gonna be on one sketch, an episode, but it's gonna be your favorite if you their own thing. There's a long history of Esonel. People who kind of like, they're only gonna be on one sketch an episode, but it's gonna be your favorite if you're like that thing. And there's so many of those types of people left, but I will pick my favorite, which would be Andy Samberg, which is assuming I'm getting all the gang. Yeah. They're there too. Yeah.

It is, I still think now, like if you see stuff they've been doing now, you're like, they're like maybe the greatest musical sketch writers that have ever lived. The quality of sketch writing work that they were doing once they hit their stride, like it just is exactly my thing. Even their lower concept stuff, like punching people in the face before eating, to like obviously the songs, like it just was exactly my thing. And to have no once an episode you're gonna get that,

it made, it was like, it was, like I think it was, yeah, it was the thing that got me back into watching. I was like, what are they doing every week? I remember graduating and like realizing all their sketches were on Hulu and being like, I'm just going to watch every one of these and just be like, they punch it and the music, it was just like nothing I'd ever seen before. You think it's so obvious now because everything is editing jokes, but

it's really like, it just did not exist, especially not at that level. And they were just so consistent of it. Yeah. They were another, like, invented invented their like people have done parody songs before, of course, but like they sort of invented their lane and then they've never been one upped on it. Some of their songs, original songs are like great songs. They're great songs. Yeah, once I can finish. I feel like Dick in a Box was like brought so many people back in to

that to the world where it's like that I don't think I don't think that was a sick thing I think that was a I think that's maybe a kid thing or something that didn't because he looked over But like dick in a box that I remember when that came out it pulled me back in to the universe a little bit Lazy Sunday in that video. Lazy Sunday was though. Yeah, lazy Sunday into Natalie's rap into dick in a box You're like, it's also like truly like for the most part SNL always tires people right after they like kind of are bubbling up in New York and LA or Chicago and they're like they feel like they're inventing a new thing like we're like

Lonely Island on SNL was like a rare time or felt like SNL was like inventing a way of doing Comedy like truly was like there's nothing like that No one was doing digital stuff because this technology had just been invented to shoot things like that YouTube literally was started the year they started. The whole reason like we have YouTube is because of the success of them. And they just you know like no one escalates the schedule like they do. Like it's like truly they state the premise five minutes in and then they just like move move move move move and like it's not just the songs it's just like but

also like and to Andy's credit, he did a lot of silly things on the show that I liked quite a bit as well. So like, like his Mark Wahlberg impression, like that sketch is like one of my favorite impressions where it's just like, what if my impression was stupid and almost there was nothing to it whatsoever. Like,

See how do you mother fool me? Yeah. Is the Game of Thrones consultant sketch that he did, where it was like the Game of Thrones has two consultants, George R.R. Martin and a 13 year old boy, who's like only job is to put boobs in the sketch, like in the scenes. Yeah.

It's just so funny, man. Yeah, what if we had a naked woman also? Captain Jack's, what I was trying to say before my wife walked in and handed me the baby, is Captain Jack Sparrow is like one of my favorite, it's my favorite Michael Bolton song, and it's probably just one of my 50 favorite songs. It's a good song. It's so funny. It's just a great song on its own.

Like you change the lyrics and that's a hit, you know? Yeah. No, I think you keep them in. I do. Mm-hmm. Like you change the lyrics and that's a hit. Yeah. You know? Yeah. No, I think you keep them in. The gesture is a secret. I do. I feel ya.

I relate to that shit, man. He's the gesture of cortugia. He does all that cocaine. Yeah. Yeah. Watch that after this. Excellent picks. Jesse, I'm just gonna say it right now.

You win. I'm looking at the left. Oh, I hope so. We all have correct answers. We you win. I'm looking at the left. I hope so. We all have great ideas. We all win, this is a, these are all. This is your area of expertise. Yeah. David, time for your fourth and then your final picks.

Fuck, man. Yeah. Fuck, I didn't want it to come to me. In front of Artie, you're talking like that. Oh, he can't hear, right? He's not wearing headphones. He exclusively cusses. Ian reads him a transcript of everything we say.

He doesn't not cuss yet. Okay. everything we say he doesn't not cuz you uh, okay It looks like he's been wearing Rex specs He has just playing racquetball 24-7 I'm mostly dead. No sleep. I'm on the court sauna Racketball. All right. I plunge. I got to go Tina Fey. Mm-hmm. Yeah, got to go.

Yeah, yeah. I don't have anybody who could be an update. Yeah. Dude, Fey. Yeah, it was her and Amy Poehler, right? They did it together. Well, and then, yeah. And Jimmy, no, first Jimmy, her and Jimmy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right.

And then Amy and Seth for a while after they split up, right? Is that right? They went, Jimmy, team, Jimmy and Tina, Tina and Amy, Amy and Seth, just Seth, Seth and Cecily. Yeah. And then I can't remember if Seth and Colin, then Cecily was like, I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah. Please stop making me be Weekend Update anchor. And then you had Colin and Che for the last decade, which is crazy. Yeah. That's crazy too. You ever get a DUI like I can't do the alphabet backwards, but I'll tell you

what I can do. Weekend update hosts. I got it. I got it. I can list them all. I'm out of my best. Yes you are. You're holding the baby and you got the scoots. And you're still doing alright. We both might shit ourselves going in the room.

That would be kind of beautiful. Those Carmel boys. That's what they do. shit ourselves Kind of beautiful boys those Carmel boys Go to work and I don't think she knows I had cuz she had she had to go to a doctor this morning But we had to do this podcast So like I don't think she knows that I have food poisoning. So she just handed them off or whatever I have. Anyway, we're doing good and we're having a great time.

Tina Fey, iconic. And if you do get writing, my God. Yeah, of course you get it. Yeah, I feel like you get the whole thing, right? Yeah, everything. Their whole, yeah. And she was a cast member, so you do, absolutely. And you get baby mama thing right? Yeah, my god everything their whole yeah, and she was a cast member So you do absolutely and you get baby mama Yeah, not being girls the movie she wrote

I love that you're a huge baby mama fan Bigger Mean Girls fan. I should have said that. Oh yes. David, your final pick. Fuck! Yeah, dude. Fuck! I know, they're all on here still. It feels like we haven't even picked any. There's huge, there'll be people,

I don't know how old your listeners are, if you have any boomer listeners, they're gonna be pissed. Nobody listens, we do this for ourselves. Well, there's one, there's like, It's our meetup. There's like two that I've, there's like my heart,

Look at his face. There's my heart and then there's my brain. Yeah. He's looking right at me, I got his picture off right now. He's like, go with your heart. He's like, you better do alright David. Since I was a little kid, I don't even know why, he's just always murdered me so much

Dan Aykroyd man He's just so funny to me he everything it's all all of it he's his face He's like... Dan Aykroyd. He's the fucking... His voice, like specifically when he's Reza Linsky, but, uh, man, Dan Aykroyd. Yeah, I'm sorry for the other man I was going to take. He's so funny. He's another one, like, he can play, he can give you a straight, he can play a little

straight if you need him to in a lot of sketches, and he's also great at characters. He's- Dog, his face on Wild and Crazy Guys, just like the way that he would do his face, yeah. Fucking murders me. Coneheads, hilarious, you know. Who's the product recall guy?

That was him, right? Oh, I don't even know that. I don't know. Is that him? Something like that. So, who's the product recall guy? That was him, right? Oh, I don't even know that. I don't know. Is that him? Something like that, yeah. Maybe. He's funny. He's funny.

Yeah, he's funny. Go ahead and put that in quotes. He's funny, quote unquote. Ian Carmel on Dan Aykroyd. Dan Aykroyd. On the best of DVDs. Never been a thing, but you know, he's funny. He's gonna be alright.

It is a thing that I rewatched a lot of the early seasons, because I was writing something about the show, and only a few of those cast members, their way they do comedy feels like it can be contemporary, and early Dan Aykroyd, because he was more committed, then like, Belusia was always a bit out of it to a point where it like, it felt too broad a lot of the time.

Where Dan, especially doing like commercial parodies, like really helped define like how we think of like, when you're like doing comedy straight and you're letting the writing speak for it, like Dan really was like that guy. Yeah. Thank you for, and then put that, that's from both of us.

Here's Ian and Jesse's take on that. Make sure it's all written so nobody knows who said what. He's funny. And he's funny. And on top of it, he's funny. Jesse, time for your final pick. Impossible. It's like, I needed someone who did Weekend Update, so it makes it a little bit easier that I don't have to like just name people I like. All right, so this is my workaround, which is I was going to pick Seth Meyers for, because I believe he's the greatest head writer in the history of the show. Yeah. Um, in the true sense of what a head writer needs to do.

However, essentially everyone I am picking after I make this next pick is when he worked on the show. So I think it is an assumption that he is my head writer since we're not picking head writer. So I'm going to pick Cecily Strong. Ah, man. All right. Yeah. So I'm going to pick Cecily Strong.

Matt Rogers said it perfectly. She is your favorite sketch actor's favorite sketch actor. She is just you put her in a scene and she does exactly it. She elevates. She can again a singer of impressionist characters. You have Kristen Wiig who can do all blonde ladies and you got Cecily to do all brunettes. But like it just is, I think like one of the great sketch acting talents

that ever lived. She was very good at Weekend Update. She just didn't wanna do it because she wanted to do more characters. It's like she did the girl you don't wanna talk to at a party. She did that. You can do it. Perfect.

The thing about what's amazing about that character is like Colin wrote that for her immediately upon meeting her. So that means she shows up to work on SNL. He goes, I have a character for you that's going to be like Pantheon character just from like one conversation with her. And she had enough self-awareness to know how to play it first season. Just like she she just locked in and I couldn't you know, I think she's I couldn't not. So there are people that if we're including after career work, obviously there's like people that were not including that like the movies they did. But like in terms of what they did on the show.

Yeah. I have to if you're including if you pick back, I have to pick Cecily, who I think is like just the great Sketch actor of my they're the same same cast right her and back. Yeah, I mean judge. Yeah, she was a little bit longer she's all this error where everyone stays a bit longer, but like I mean I'll say this all this is like the first year after Seth left and it was I I was moderating a panel with him and we're talking beforehand and we're talking about SNL because he still watches all the time

and he was talking about the character she does Gemma who's the girlfriend to like just whatever male host is who's like a British singer and he goes Gemma I wish I could write for that like then that's the thing that I... Yeah that what a compliment. Yeah, like wanting to go back and be like, that character is so fun. Yeah, to pitch on it. So. There's endless meat on the bone.

Mm-hmm, Cecily Strong. Cecily Strong. Sean, time for your final pick. Yeah, I mean, Will Forte. Yeah, dude, yes. I love, I love. He's another one who can be, he can be serious, but he's, every single thing he says is funny to me. I mean, I could watch him do his taxes

and I would think it was funny. So when he's being serious, it just, I mean, I just can't, I couldn't, sorry to everyone else. I couldn't leave him off. So we'll start right They're gonna be pissed. They all listen you think Dennis Miller doesn't listen to this show My Myers and Adam sailor gonna listen to this together We're gonna go top to my key we're gonna go give it to you Top two Mikey. We're gonna go give it a shabu. The-

That wasn't good. It's okay. It's all right, you went for it. That wasn't a good Sandler. It was okay. I don't think we ever tried it before, I don't think. You get shots up. But we knew you were doing Sandler, so that's good.

Good. His, the Hamilton character, you know the one where he's like a cueing on down dude, like with the blonde bowl cut and the sunglasses? Dude, he is perfect. He, like, I had to take Bell Hater, but it was literally, it was like, I probably should have waited to get Will Forte later.

But like, they're kind of 1A, 1B, as far as like these like, in the 2000s character dudes for me. Will Forte, I mean, McGrouper, obviously. Yeah, I didn't really get into Will Forte until McGrouper, until the movie. And then for me. Will Forte, I mean, McGroober, obviously. I didn't really get into Will Forte until McGroober, until the movie, and then I remember Doug Mellard, he showed me the movie, and I'd be like, holy buckets,

and then everything Will Forte ever did. Greg Stink, just like the idiot sports broadcaster. The way he said Gilly, that Gilly sketch, is built upon Will Forte just saying Gilly funny. Yeah. Yes. Gilly. My favorite is the Spelling Bee sketch, which I think he auditioned for where he's just

spelling the word and he's just like spelling it very wrong. But it's just, he just had, he's one of those people who just like had of his world and just can just do that little thing that he does. He knows exactly what he's good at, yeah. And the best bad singer, just like the worst good bad singer that's ever been around. Have you seen that sketch he did when Peyton Manning was on the show? Oh, the dancing one? The dancing one?

Like the full commitment? So it's like halftime of a basketball game and he's like, John Wooden played the song for me at like halftime, we went back in a race to 52 point deficit. And then they play it and it's like this weird Martin Denny like swing, like Burt Camphor-esque song, but he does this dance to it with like this full, silly commitment that is one of the funniest things

I've ever seen. Dan, I like pulled it up last night. Did he? It's amazing. And it's just like full, it's funny because of like, it's full commitment from Will Forte. And then the dancing is silly, but like, it's an athletic performance

is the best way I can describe it. Time for my final pick, both as dictated by the rules of this podcast and the way my son is starting to behave right now. With my final pick, this is hard, because it was gonna, I like literally acro it Cecily and Will Forte where people lined up for my last pick.

So I'm gonna go, I'm sorry to be so like modern, I guess I'm not completely, I'm gonna take Aidy Bryant. She's fantastic. Yeah, why are you sorry about that? Not, not, just cause like I feel bad that like truly didn't really take anyone from the seventies or anything like that. Oh yeah.

From like these legendary first cast where there are like very worthy people. We didn't take Gilda Radner. But, wasn't my cast of SNL. I know. It's hard to be like, cause I, our personal relationship to Gilda is this like idea of her not like,

oh, so it's hard to want and you know, this is fun. I remember like when I was a kid watching on Nick at Night and stuff, cause that's when those were, that's when I saw those was those were airing on Nick at Night before like Donna Reed and stuff when I was a kid. So I remember all those old ones, but they just didn't hit me at the right age,

which is not fair to them. Yeah, I wouldn't know what to do with her with this cast, but Adi Bryant I think can fit in perfectly. It's another person who can like be your straight person reacting to shots and then can also play, you know, like completely outlandish silly characters. I just think she's fantastic. I think she's so funny. I can't stop looking at Artie's little face.

He's just so, he's just, whoa, whoa, whoa. He's a big Gilda fan. He loves Gilda Ren. He can't believe Rosanna, Rosanna Dana did not make the draft. Him and my mom are gonna be kibitzing about it after this. What, no Billy Crystal, Dad? I don't really consider the Ringer cast when I was ever gonna do this. I'm not gonna do this. Uh, what, no Billy Crystal, dad? I don't really consider the Ringer cast when I was going into this. I was tough because a lot of them were on for like a year and that,

it was, I don't know, I didn't pick anyone that was just on for a year. Martin Short, dude? Martin Short was on that Ringer cast. Martin Short playing the sweating, maybe that's what I was thinking, the sweating. I didn't say that, who said that? Like the guy being interviewed, you know? Like, fuck man, so funny.

Isaac, do you have a pick? Fred Armisen. Yeah, that's great. I mean, he's somebody who I just look at his face and immediately I wanna laugh. He doesn't even need to do anything. I just like look at it. He's like, I have that like lizard brain association, like Fred Armisen's on screen, I'm going to laugh. He doesn't even need to do anything. I just like look at he's like I have that like lizard brain

Association like Fred Armisen is on screen. I'm going to laugh. Yeah, I feel smear What the French call a certain I don't know what? Great Was the only comedian in the city that wasn't on that show. That's all right, bud New money Portlandia. I'm gonna wrap this up, because Arthur has reached his podcasting limit for the day. To recap, David, you went first.

You took Phil Hartman, Tracy Morgan, Maya Rudolph, Tina Fey, and Dan Aykroyd. Jesse, you went second. You got Will Ferrell, Kenan Thompson, Kristen Wiig, Andy Samberg, and Cecily Strong. Man. Just a moment for that draft, just a moment here. Sean, you went third, you took Norm MacDonald,

Chris Farley, Kate McKinnon, Beck Bennett, and Will Forte. I went last, I got Bill Hader, Eddie Murphy, Amy Poehler, Dana Carvey, and Aidy Bryant. Jesse, congratulations. Yeah, yeah, good job, man. Yeah, truly, truly. Yeah, that's the best one. It is. We don't even need to say, but we're aware that there's some hitters on there still.

We left some insane people on the board. Everybody's left on the board. Everybody. Bill Murray? Yeah, David Spade? Yeah. Molly Shannon? Chrisade. Yeah. Molly Shannon. Chris Rock. Adam Sandler.

Rachel Dratch, dude. Rachel Dratch? Yeah, absolutely. I also like Chloe Feynman a lot. She's funny. I was close. I was close. She's so funny. Brooks. You know Brooks Whelan? Shout out to you, Brooks. Jazz? Yeah, James. James? Oh? Shout out to you, Brooks. Jazz. James.

James. Oh, Jazz, I mean, yeah. Marcelo on the current cast right now. Is that your guy? He's so fucking funny. I don't know if it's like an immigrant thing, but like anytime he's just making fun of the immigrant experience, I'm just like, yes, fuck yeah.

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