All Fantasy Everything - Sparkling Water (w/ Hayes Davenport, Sean Clements)
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This is a HeadGum Podcast.
This is All Fantasy Everything, the podcast where we fantasy draft anything and everything
from the world of pop culture.
On today's episode, we're drafting Sparkling Water.
Our guests today are Hayes Davenport and Sean Clements.
I'm your host, Ian Carmel.
And with me, as always, is my good friend and stand-up comedian, Sean Jordan.
David Borey, currently in an undisclosed location in Bolivia. Let's get into it.
Welcome to All Fantasy Everything.
The podcast that was having a, I would say a laid back conversation about protein bars right before this started.
I don't know.
Sean Jordan felt pretty intense about it.
It wasn't laid back at all.
He was humming for RX bars.
He actually was. He put them on the rack they're gross have we done those they haven't sponsored the show in five years we haven't done
haven't done a protein bar we haven't done a protein bar draft and now i'm finding out
information i i'm questioning my decision to do not just a podcast with sean a life of friendship
yeah i hear you man man. I got opinions.
Now, I couldn't help but notice in the intro, you said sparkling waters.
Yes.
Slash seltzers.
Slash seltzers.
I noticed that as well.
I say seltzer.
Just wondering.
That's called a cliffhanger.
Just wondering.
I didn't want to get too far in.
What do you say when you order it?
Like you're at a bar or something.
Do you ask for a seltzer? Do you ask for
a sparkling water? I say club
soda. At a bar, a club
soda is usually the go-to, huh?
That's what it says on the gun.
Yeah. I like a gun.
I like a gun, Phil. I'm finding
in a lot of, like on an airplane,
if you ask for one or
t'other, if you'll grant me the
freedom to sort of turn that into one word, they're t'other, if you'll grant me the freedom to sort of turn that into one
word there, t'other,
I get different things.
Sometimes they are going to differentiate
for you, so that's why I do say club
soda as my default. If you want
specifically a club soda, because you asked for a sparkling
water, you're going to get something entirely, at least on Delta.
They just throw coffee in your face?
They slap you. They hit you with a
Bible.
Flying back from Tampa and this woman doing the cart she like had to pull a little far back and
the person in front of me she's like i have a huge favor huge favor and she just had him reach in and
grab a couple sprites for whoever she couldn't reach you know and then she's like all right
since you did that reach down in the alcohol drawer and grab as many as your hand can fit
and he didn't want to drink you could see him he's He's just like, I'm good. And she's like, get in there, get as many as you need. And he
grabbed out four huge bottles, a huge, but huge for four in one hand bottles of wine.
He just held him kind of up and he's like, does anybody want these wines?
It was crazy. I'd never. What airline were you on?
American. And I was in the back like, I want the wines, but I don't want to be like, yeah,
give me all four of those. I was inches away from being able
to do what he did. That is so
American, though, that level of access.
That gluttony, right? He didn't
earn that. I mean, they really lived up to that
airline's name. It's the blow of
leaving Tampa, too.
Everyone needs something.
That's an unfillable void. That's a void
you couldn't even fill with RX bars.
No matter how
thick they are they try can we get back to rx bars for a second because they are thick but like and
they we're talking you have to grade them on a scale of protein what are we what are we weighing
them against i mean like because like you're calling them gross i guess you like a cliff bar
more i feel like they were a revelation in terms of being slightly less gross.
I'm so stupid. I found out
cliff bars are super high in sugar. I didn't know they were bad
for you. I thought they were good for you. They're not.
An RX bar is a little
lower. I think it's a little closer to
healthy than maybe a cliff bar.
A cliff bar is for scaling the face
of a mountain, as they show
you on the cover.
It's right there.
I don't know.
I don't work out though. Like protein bars, they
if you're trying to bulk, bro,
is that what you need a protein bar for? We're talking about bulking.
Yeah, welcome back to the bulk cast.
I'll bulk everything.
Today we're drafting a mountain of chicken to eat.
I just do cardio, bro.
I'm a big cardio boy.
The cardio boy, Sean S. Jordan on Twitter.
Sean Cougar Melon Jordan on Instagram. Sean the microphone. Sean the rhymes. Yeah, I still hold big cardio boy. The cardio boy, Sean S. Jordan on Twitter. Sean Cougar Melon Jordan on Instagram.
Sean the microphone.
Sean the rhymes.
I still hold it, man.
Buster rhymes.
Am I the only one holding this thing?
I'm the only one that holds the mic ever on any show.
You have a mic stand?
I got it.
You're holding yours?
All right.
Yeah, you can see them.
No, I don't have a mic stand.
I don't believe it.
Well, there you go.
So you're not even making a choice.
This is the only thing.
I guess you could lay it down on the couch and then also lay down.
Which I'd like to say, I think. Like I was dishing or prop it up on a, like an, like a John Grisham in the bathtub or
something.
Absolutely.
I need both hands to podcast.
Yeah.
You'll see as we go on, I play the bongo drums a lot during this thing.
So I definitely need to stand.
It's the, it's the donkey congaongo drums, too, just to be specific.
Sean, where...
Isaac, first of all, when does this come out?
We are woefully unprepared.
Hello, all family. Interrupting Ian here
from the future. We originally
had this episode coming out last week,
so Sean promoted the tour and nothing
else, but the tour is over,
obviously. Thanks for coming out if you did.
And so I'm going to cut around Sean and go straight to Hayes.
Hayes Davenport is here at Hayes Davenport on Twitter.
Is it also just at Hayes Davenport on Instagram?
I got to check.
It's been a while since I've thrown any content up there.
Where can people find you? I got to check. It's been a while since I've thrown any content up there.
Where can people find you?
Oh, gosh.
I go to Gelson's pretty much every day.
Which one?
That's important.
Which one?
The Silver Lake one.
I guess it's technically Los Feliz.
The one kind of right on the border.
Across from Trader Joe's?
Across from Trader Joe's.
Yeah. You're at that Gelson's a lot. I saw there i saw bloodline there one time pretty good yeah you saw billions
there i saw sneaky pete there nice you saw sneaky pete there yes yeah we were getting ready for
super bowl sunday and we saw billions i'm about to knock y'all on your ass at the uh at the
hollywood um like franklin village galsons i saw 24 Hollywood like Franklin Village
Gelsons, I saw
24.
Damn. Shopping for wine.
He was in the wine aisle?
Oh yeah. Oh my
God. Must have just got back from
Tampa too. He was buying a lot.
Big bottles. Wolverine
Claus with four bottles of Malbec there.
24, dude.
Yeah, saw him.
Yeah, that trumps it.
I think that trumps.
Is that the best person you could see at Gelson's?
I kind of think it is.
That'd be my number one.
Jack Bauer himself?
Yeah, Jack Bauer himself.
24.
Well, one, I'm starstruck.
Two, I know I'm safe.
Nothing's going down
I felt pretty safe with Billions around I gotta be honest
Axelrod is like
seven feet tall
he is Band of Brothers
that's what you have to remember about Billions
and he's Dreamcatcher if you want to go deep
I think he's Dreamcatcher too
he's Dreamcatcher he's Homeland
he's Homeland
he's Wolf Hall we should have just attached ourselves He's dream catcher. He's Homeland. He's Homeland.
Jesus.
He's Wolf Hall.
We should have just attached ourselves.
Why did we ever leave his side?
We had it.
We had it figured out.
Are you pulling me towards the potato salad?
I just assume he talks like a sketch on billions in real life.
He's a method actor, right?
Smallest mouth in Hollywood, that guy.
Him and Glenn Powell, they got tiny little mouths.
Oh, yeah.
Glenn Powell's up there on the tiny mouth right that is a tiny man he's he's really working the tininess
of it too you know it gets so small he's making it so small that's what you need to make it in
hollywood now is you need to be able to make your mouth so small where you're like i bet he just
needs one cheerio and you saw him like when he was first starting out he actually had like a normal size mouth but that's what the business does to you you know
it's like they make you just like small on it you get the pressure down procedure
he says he doesn't want to do franchises and with as small as that mouth is getting
i just so i'm just i wonder what else you're gonna do yes yeah i just wonder if that's the
case you feel bad that ho that Hollywood just chews you up
tiny piece by tiny piece at a time and spits you out.
Well, he can't chew almost anything.
It's tiny.
It's small.
People chew it for him.
Dude, but he has that kind of money now.
He is making half of it.
He has chewers.
Glenn Powell fucking rules, by the way.
Glenn Powell's fantastic.
I just, I don't want anyone thinking I'm not,
I'd do anything for Glenn Powell.
I don't even know the guy.
Oh, okay. So on the show show you do pretend to like Glenn Powell
when we're recording you say you like him
I'm just clarifying
Isaac put air horns over everything
everything except I fucking love
Glenn Powell
air horns over everything everyone said so far
the entire podcast
this entire podcast
he'd like us too
I want to make sure i'm getting this term
right yeah yeah i think he'd love us he follows me on twitter i do want to actually spend holy
shit talking about that isaac specifically put airhorns over that part don't don't don't let
me actually make sure that's still happening he's making a tv show based on an eli manning sketch
yeah so it's like this guy's not gonna like a fantasy uh draft show
he's probably getting all sorts of ideas from this i bet he's sitting there listening right
now like oh my god they're talking about me and they noticed how small i've gotten my mouth
some of the some of the protein bar stuff we were saying is probably gonna be in the show
that's gonna resonate heavily Nothing we could do about it.
Dude, he's sitting across the desk from Bezos right now saying, and one character hates our X-bars.
Wait, Chad Power's Power Bar.
Chad Power Bar.
Power Bar.
Dude, it's all coming together.
I think consulting producer credits for the table.
We got to get some kind of piece of this, right? I got to wet my beak.
That'd be nice.
Do you want a Hollywood handbook?
Is there anything else you'd like to point people towards?
We need all fingers pointing at Hollywood handbook right now.
It's all hands on deck.
Eight fingers and two thumbs, baby.
We need everyone to clap.
It's an emergency.
We need everyone to clap we need everyone to clap for uh for our
yes podcasts please clap your hands because every time the podcast drops we're gonna get people
coming out banging pots and pans we're banging pots and pans for hollywood hands exactly we did
we did the whole neighborhood to get out not just at the window i want you to come out in your
driveway and do it because Let them hear it.
How long did y'all do that?
I did it for like three weeks.
You did pots and pans?
For like three weeks.
Wow. I didn't do any pots and pans.
God, if you were still going. Oh, that's cool.
Oh yeah. Not everyone's still doing it.
So that's fine. You know, a lot of people
just your schedule can get crazy, but actually.
He's sick.
Sean, it lasted, Jordan, Sean Jordan lasted three weeks until he figured I was a scamdemic.
And at that point, sort of stopped the pot.
Oh dude, I got some stuff.
I got some links, bro.
You gotta, you gotta look at some of these links that my buddy sent me.
Sausage and Hyper.
He's got them all.
There are so many people doing it in my neighborhood.
It was, you just realized there are no health workers actually living here everyone is pretty loud everyone is is just cheering no one is there to receive the cheers yeah just a bunch of just a
circle of applause and no one in the middle yeah there. There's no one on stage. It's just an audience.
Silence by John Cage, but for first responders.
Sean, now I'm in my head.
Clements?
It's not Clements.
Yeah, I just say Clements, you know.
But you're a Carmel.
Like, I get it.
I'm a Carmel, so I get my own head about it.
I'm a second syllable guy and we are
I just say Clements but it's not wrong
I don't correct anyone because when I went to my
family reunion as a teen
up in Canada they all said
Clements they're doing Clements
up there I wouldn't have even thought it was
Clements until Ian said it no I wouldn't
yeah and I still don't
I still think they're wrong
interesting I don't correct anyone but think they're wrong. Interesting.
I don't correct anyone.
Call me a fucking
asshole.
It's at Sean Clements on Twitter.
Spit on me. Spit in my mouth.
Spit on me. Spit on me.
Put out a cigarette on my chest.
Dude, please.
I'm begging you. CharlieXCX, hit me with
your car. I'm young, dude. I'm begging charlie xcx hit me with your car right that's i'm young dude
you're young kids listening yeah we're really everyone out here is pretty young
now i'm 40 i'm 42 42 every day of 42 no sir dude no sir 24 you're fucking jack bauer dude you're so i was at gelson's one time man yeah uh i watched all of 24
all of it fucking incredible i re-watched i re-watched it like two years ago the revival
season with um the guy i didn't re-watch from straight out of compton no i didn't see that
how was canon i started it i started it but i didn't finish it. Which straight out of Compton guy was in it?
My life is so busy.
It was Dre.
Corey Hawkins.
Oh, Corey Hawkins.
He had a moment, right?
What's happening in that moment?
We just talked about it.
We just went all the way through it.
Did you go deep on Corey Hawkins?
A whole moment straight out of Compton.
Just now.
24 legacy.
Four of us here.
We covered it.
We just actually did.
The moment has been explored exhaustively.
Okay, in my mind, Dr. Dre
is going, Andre Young is going through headshots
like they used to and he's just like, no, no, no.
And he lands on Corey Hawkins.
He's like, it's like looking in a mirror.
Do you think anyone behind him was like,
Oh, yeah, boss.
He looks just like you, boss.
I mean, you're hotter. He's a oh, yeah, boss. Oh, yeah. He looks just like you, boss. I mean, you're hotter.
He's a dead ringer, boss.
He's like a schlubby you, but yeah.
It would be really humble if you had him play you, actually.
We're never going to find someone as handsome as you, but this guy's got some of your essence.
I mean, Jason Mitchell looks exactly like Eazy-E. And then O'Shea, dude, obviously, Ice Cube's son.
And then, Corey, it's so funny because you're just like,
come on, man.
Even the Suge Knight guy, you're like, sure.
Who?
Not LaVell Croft.
Jesus.
Lakeith Stanfield playing Snoop.
It's all like spot on.
And then Dre, you're just like.
Paul Giamatti as Eminem?
That's who he was, right?
He played Eminem.
Billions. other billions.
Double billions.
Sean Clement, Sean Langhorne Clements,
is there anything you would like to point people towards
other than Hollywood Handbook,
which we're all pointing towards?
I got it.
I also need both fingers pointed at Hollywood Handbook. Get in there. I mean, I guess the flagrant ones is also at a Hollywood handbook.
Get in there.
I mean, I guess the flagrant ones is also part of Hollywood handbook.
That's sort of our basketball podcast.
And that's also the name of the Patreon that we have that's on life support.
When this comes out, I would like to congratulate the Boston Celtics.
Wow. Call them the shot
yes on their
championship success
six games what are we thinking five games
can we get one where he does
Dallas Mavericks let's go ahead and get both of those
Isaac let's get them both
I'd like to congratulate the Boston Celtics
on being so brave
even though they lost
just to play in the finals yes
that's a successful season just to get
there you should be proud of that
2019 wishing they were doing that
I want to congratulate Jalen Brown on being
underrated again even though he
frequently shows up on second and third
team all NBA
yeah not this year
conference finals MVP not this year one of the biggest
contracts in mvp yeah not this year yeah i think uh he's the highest paid player this past season
i think he was the highest paid player in the nba yeah super underrated he's used to it super
underrated jaylen brown thoughts and prayers obviously to christophe's poor zingas's family Pairs, obviously, to Kristaps Porzingis' family. Tease and peace. They help.
They help.
My name is Ian Carmel,
at Ian Carmel on Twitter, Instagram,
all those places, YouTube, TikTok,
anywhere I can try to gain even just a slight foothold of traction.
By now, my book, T-Shirt Swim Club, is out.
Thank you for making,
are we calling shots?
Thank you for having it just miss out on the New York times bestseller list,
which is an email I expect to get from the publisher,
even though just missing out probably means it came in around 134,
but Oh my God,
we did it.
I don't like hearing you say that.
I'm going to stop you dead in your tracks.
I don't like hearing you say I'm stuck,
be dead in your tracks.
It's going to number one and I'll have nothing else.
Well,
that now it's going to hurt so bad and be embarrassing when it's absolutely not.
Shouldn't be.
You wrote a book, man.
You've written more books than I've read in the last three years.
Do you get to pick your category?
Like, you know, like for the globe, sometimes you can massage it a little bit.
Like, yeah, we're a musical or comedy.
Yes.
Like, oh, OK, with this star.
And yeah, it's harder to category fraud it
uh the publisher picks all that so i i think they can but it's it's i think i'm going into
like memoir i think it says somewhere on here i have no you know what i have no idea i was
excluded from those conversations you've written your memoir it technically is a memoir so i think it might go is it saying yeah it doesn't say
hey you know paul sheer tilled the soil for you you know what i mean he did that's why
just in time you didn't want to be there's a freight train at the same time you don't want
to be up against that publicity yeah yes he comes through and then you're in the little car that pumps up and down he's kind of made everyone aware of books now people are people books are books are books
having a moment i think that's what you know his will be the big picture and then mine i know what
they are now me and then i think probably the sun also rises in the lower everyone's doing it
wait a minute everyone's writing books now uh buy t-shirt
swim club but don't make sean jordan seem like a liar my beautiful wonderful supportive friend
get it where it needs to be come on the man wrote a book people people are into it if you listen
this podcast i've talked about it enough uh come see us on the road i'm not doing shit this i'm
not doing shit this summer so i have nothing to shit this summer. So I have nothing to promote.
Cool.
I don't think anyone.
Yeah.
Pretty cool. I'm going to come down and hang out in July at some point.
Bookstore section too?
Publisher chooses that?
Or does the store?
Oh, I feel like the store can override it,
but I think the book publisher comes with suggestions.
That's why you got to get in with the stalkers, the shelf
I'm going to Skylight
who controls your fate
I'm going to Skylight with an atypical haircut
I'm going to Chevalier's
with a small dog
there's a big St. Bernard there named Queenie
I know Queenie
you're gonna wanna sort of get in with
Queenie's mom
and she can set you up like out in front she makes the trains run on time Yeah, so you're going to want to sort of get in with Queenie's mom,
and she can set you up like out in front.
She makes the trains run on time.
Her and Queenie.
I feel like Queenie probably owns that book.
It's the biggest St. Bernard you've ever seen in your entire life.
I just got a weird ring at my doorbell,
and our long guy's here.
Give me 30 seconds.
Never mind, that was Max.
Sorry, my wife just got home with my daughter and said that was Max.
All right, perfect.
Now I look responsible because I didn't know she was here, so now I look like,
hold on, let me stop working for a second. Go check
what's going on at the house.
Boots on the ground, Jordan.
I just wanted to slide that in there.
We got a lot of...
Sorry to ring the
doorbell. It's an emergency.
I want him to get paid.
I feel like a jerk if he's expecting to get paid.
That's right.
Well, this is how he gets paid.
You're doing your work right now.
If you don't do this, he doesn't get paid.
You know what I mean?
God, I'm stupid.
I should have thought of all that.
That's on me.
I feel like I'm getting uglier every second, too.
Things are going downhill.
Ugly, untoward, uncouth.
Surly, yeah, rude. Rudeard uncouth surly yeah rude rude uncouth
all of it ill-mannered ill-tempered ever jump on that piano behind you i jump on it sometimes
yeah i would like you to record a whole podcast sitting at the piano just occasionally
you don't do that like a storyteller type thing yeah yeah no i can't play it then max will come
in here she's already at the door like a like a bloodhound she type thing. Yeah. No, I can't play it. Then Max will come in here. She's already at the door
like a bloodhound.
She can smell
like when something's going on
that she's not supposed
to be a part of.
She just wants to like
be around it.
Max, this is adult Velociraptor.
Yeah.
John Jordan does Velociraptor.
Maxine Claus.
We are not here
to talk about Velociraptors.
We're going to talk about
Sparkling Waters.
We're going to fantasy draft them.
And the way we determine
the order of that fantasy draft
is through a rollicking game
of rock, paper, scissors
played between the three of you.
We throw on shoot.
Here we go.
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Oh, three scissors.
Here we go again.
We got to re-roll it.
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Oh, okay.
So it's an unnatural victory
The odd person out wins a rock against two paper
That's how that works
Oh yeah it flies in the face of God
Sean's bad wifi really coming in handy on this one
It did
Like aggressive cheating
But then you tied with the first one
I was like well he's really good at cheating
Sean you are
As the winner of rock paper scissors
It is incumbent upon you to determine the winner of rock paper scissors,
it is incumbent upon you to determine the order of today's draft.
But before you do that,
I want to let you know,
it is a serpentine draft.
And what is that?
I'll let you know what it is.
David doesn't understand it.
It's been 380 episodes.
He still doesn't get it.
And I,
so it's like an animal.
He's off taking an intensive about it right now.
He is.
In Bolivia,
they offer a class on it.
It's like an animal that can't decide if it wants to cross the street or not so i was pretty proud of this one so it's like a squirrel runs across almost all the way to the left side of the street and
then just kind of stops for a minute and then runs back to the right side and kind of stops for a
minute and then back to the left side just kind of waffles back and forth but spending a little time
on each end before they go back and forth.
Somehow there are still questions in your mind about how this works.
If you pick fourth in the first round,
that means you pick first in the second round.
So it's like a serpentine draft,
sometimes called the snake draft.
And the way we explain it is we describe it as a squirrel.
It's a squirrel draft, actually.
We're hoping if there's one takeaway from today's episode.
I have dug down to the catacombs of explanations,
and for some reason, people still don't understand it.
So I'll keep explaining until everyone who listens to this show understands it.
I'm going to keep explaining a different way every single week.
That's my word.
Squirrel draft.
Okay.
Squirrel draft.
And we're going to get to...
Oh, wait, no.
Sean, with that in mind, what will the order of today's squirrel draft be all right let me put my man hayes in the one spot okay all right
leading off i don't want that kind of pressure it's a lot and also this is a deep draft it is
a deep draft it is a deep draft no it isn't yes draft. No, it isn't. Yes, it's a pretty deep draft.
Sparkling waters and seltzers.
I know.
Yeah, we'll see.
We're going to get.
I'm going to get together.
And so I'll go.
Hayes one.
I'll put Sean to Ian three.
I'm going to be the caboose, but I get to go twice.
You're on that hot corner.
You got the turn.
Much like a squirrel running across the street
almost exactly the same back-to-back picks i just really trust my ability to find value in the later
rounds yeah yeah yeah there are a lot i mean i've got one well i don't want to give i don't want to
tip my hand but strategy going into this i've got like one heavy hitter that i'm going to feel
i have such a clear number one i was really worried about it being gone.
It's not going to be, but we're going to get to that
first pick. Clear number one
right after this short break.
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isaac how many episodes is this of all fantasy everything i think this is 393 we're almost at
400 you guys are like 500 something deep right we might have passed No, we're not past six. Six is coming up in the fall.
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Dude, Never Not Funny is on like 3,400.
Douglo's Movies is what, like 1,700 or 1,800 something?
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They can go, baby.
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Yeah, I guess we suck.
It did feel pointed.
You brought that up right after we were sort of celebrating how long
that's impressive I don't know never enough funny
there's a couple asterisks
you're saying you can't do 2500
more I don't know I see
longevity in all this I think it's fun
I love doing this I think they can
go as long as you want who gives a shit
well that's a great attitude if you
keep that who gives a shit attitude you'll go
really far
in the podcasting world i've been i've been known to have a good attitude the answer is not that
many people yeah our central tenant as a podcast is who gives a shit and i think it i think it's
been working yeah it's been working well the one thing we do give a shit about though sparkling
water i'm nervous slash seltzer slash seltzer. Slash seltzer.
Hayes, you have the first pick.
I'm going to use my platform a little bit here.
I have such a powerful relationship
with sparkling water. I am concerned
now, like many of us, I think,
have we gone so far into this
that we have health concerns
now about
sparkling water? My dentist gave
me a little talking to.
I have also now gotten my one-year-old
on it.
Oh, wow. My kids don't
drink bubbles.
First couple times, it was a little
hot,
she said.
I've heard spicy as the adjective as well
my adult wife has the same complaint is that sparkling water is a little too especially if
it's cold it's a little too spicy that's that then this is part of why we go to gelson's every
day because you can get a cold sparkling water that you can't really get at the trader joe's
across the street and so like this is, she needs one for the way home.
Daddy needs one as well.
But my brand,
this is the brand I grew up with still the King.
As far as I'm concerned,
it is now available in California on the West coast years.
Yes.
Sean knows my number one is we're going polar seltzer.
Yeah,
dude,
big bubbles, lots of of bubbles high fastball
the standards are excellent i think of cranberry lime for some reason is like the main one
and like those are all like the lime is great all the uh all the all the standards are good
i like the ginger lime one
the ginger lime mule
that's like a new
which does have a bit of like a
alcoholic
kick
I don't know exactly how they do that
yeah there's no alcohol in it obviously
but there is some sort of
like bite to the flavor
that makes you feel like you're being a little
bad.
It does a little bit.
It does.
You're like, how do they get all this flavor into the end?
Zero zero everything.
It's putting up zeros across the board.
And this is actually a distinction I wanted to before we get too far into this.
It doesn't change my pick.
Yeah.
Are we allowing a splash?
I think we should allow a splash because I think these are,
I think there are some,
there are some things that have a splash that are closer.
That's always my thing.
Like I never sold that.
These have nothing in them.
Like zeros across the board.
And it makes me feel like the stupidest I can feel.
Cause I'm like,
I just don't,
I don't,
I don't believe it when I'm drinking it.
Like,
there's no way.
I don't know either.
They all say Essence on the back, where I'm like, is there going to be an expose?
That's not real.
And then you get like your dentist telling you something, and you're like, mm-hmm.
But that's the bubbles.
That's the bubbles.
The bubbles will chew on you, especially some of the big ones, like Polar's bringing.
But they have summer flavors
they have winter flavors most of those aren't available outside of massachusetts as far as
i know they're from worcester which is where toll booth willie is from actually who's told
welcome to worcester i don't know he's from there he welcomes you there he's the guy who
welcomes you to worcester yes he is actually is actually. Yeah, he is. You know, Tollbooth Willie? I don't know Tollbooth Willie.
He's from Worcester.
Oh, you've got to get up on Tollbooth Willie.
Good head.
He used to be.
He moved out here.
He moved out here.
He had sort of a moment in the 90s,
and he ended up moving out here.
Oh, from the Adam Sandler album.
Yeah, that's sort of how he became famous.
And then he was like,
you got to come out to i guess he is on that album
i'm a bigger fan of his later work polar is i noticed you really deflected away from
sparkling water criticism there hayes in a way that says maybe you're in their pocket
maybe you're in their pocket uh i i god i would love to be i i would have said i in in college i had a wall of polar cans they're nice cans too i like the solid color different color for each
flavor you've got a cool look yeah it is a good look it's a quality it's a look of quality but
it's also not up its own ass you know some of these sparkling water packaging which i think
we'll get into in the later rounds, where it's like, you're doing
too much. What is this branding?
I still like the product, but
calm down a little bit. Polar,
they're letting the water speak for
itself. There's a little polar bear on there. Small
enough, evocative of a cold
refreshing sip. How long
they've been around? To me, and I'm
new to the sparkling water game,
I really, I was against it the sparkling water game, I really...
I was against it for some...
Not against it.
I just couldn't handle it.
But to me, it feels like they've all only been around
like five or 10 years or something.
And I have to be wrong.
That's in LA.
So they showed up at...
Also a local family Massachusetts business, CBS,
was the only West Coast purveyor for a while.
But they've been... I you know i feel like their
main logo has like a horse-drawn carriage in it or something this is like an 1800s
1882 i'm just looking it up right now 1882 yeah sparkling water pre i think even predates soda
before soda once they figured out they could put bubbles in something they were like god i feel
stupid this is the future and they were right why did i do the order this way man they got seltzer junior flavors
i'm getting scared now you don't have to be scared i'm just looking i'm realizing there's
two that i just really want i was nervous uh i just knew it wouldn't be there when it comes back
to me and no polar's not back polar's for a talent for sure i mean if there when it comes back to me. Polar, no. Polar's not making it back.
Polar's perfect for a talent for sure.
I mean, if it got to me, I probably would have taken it.
My wife still.
I have two picks.
I'm excited.
After all this time with me, she calls it Polar Spring sometimes.
Oh, no.
I got to get out of here.
Because Poland Springs is.
You idiot.
I just got to.
Oh, my God. That's so fucking stupid. I just have to go for a walk. I got gotta. Oh my god, that's so
fucking stupid. I just have to go
for a walk. I gotta go for a walk.
Polar going first.
Fantastic flavors. Big, bold
American bubbles.
Summer in a can.
That's a hot one. That's a spicy one.
Power. Yes.
Sean Jordan, you were nervous you you enter this
draft with trepidation in your heart
and a short and a short
bench with the first pick
also
I hate it when I get when I feel like
I'm completely out of my element like why
I've seen you take
down sparkling waters baby
you have I so I just
this for me I'm'm going to go simple.
This is why I picked it.
I like the way they look a lot.
And the fun flavors.
I'm going to go Waterloo.
Wow.
Wow.
Early for Waterloo.
I thought that would be available for me.
I did too.
I think you're right.
I was like, oh, this is kind of my sneaky pick towards the end
because Waterloo has some great flavors.
And it does have a nice looking package.
And the fun.
Yeah, just the fun.
I don't know.
It feels like I'm drinking a soda or something.
It does feel like Soda Pop.
That's what you're talking about.
When you say there's got to be something in here,
you're talking about Waterloo.
It's a little too much for me.
Well, you can't have all these berries on one can and be like, there's nothing in there.
Yeah, there is.
It's got to be.
Because they have the summer berry flavor, which is, I don't know if it's out all the time, but it's definitely out right now.
And I saw it at Whole Foods 365 on Glendale.
On Glendale.
Also the sort of Silver Lake, Los Feliz, the Jason one.
In stock there.
My house is full of waterloo right now
not a criticism because i do think it's a good sparkling water in fact a strange criticism the
flavor haze you might have been alluding to this does come in a little thick sometimes it's too
a little suspicious i'm looking it can be like a watermelon one or something is like maybe too
sweet for me.
See, I like the flavor.
I gravitate towards ginger flavored ones. And that one, their ginger lime has something about it that doesn't quite hit.
But some of the other ones, some of the more basic flavors.
They have like the blackberry lemonade is off the chains.
It's the lime, just straight up lemonade is off the chains it's their lime just straight up like sure i've heard people say that if you want to know if an ice
cream place is good you go and you get vanilla because anybody can do the razzle dazzles right
anybody can give you a razzle dazzle but you go in can this place do a vanilla cone that's the
true market quality and for me it's in a sparkling water. It's a lime. Can you just do,
can you give me a good lime and Waterloo?
Their lime is great.
Their lime is good.
Their lime is good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of essence,
a lot of essence,
essence fest.
It's a big essence fest. That's the real essence fest.
That's the real essence fest.
We're on girls trip.
I will say,
okay,
so we were talking about the sparkling waters getting into like the This Tastes Like Booze game.
Waterloo is making a big effort.
Again, based on my recent jaunt to Whole Foods 365.
Because I got a bunch of Pinot Colada.
Where it's there like coconut, but it's supposed to taste like a Pinot Colada.
And they had a few other ones.
Again, it's a little little the flavor's a little
suspicious it's a little again like it it makes me think an expose is coming about waterloo at
some point where it's like actually this was full of sugar totally or sugar something unregulated
like kratom yeah yeah exactly i did because what the fuck is it what is essence what is the essence that they put in
these things that makes them take illegal i'm saying i'm never gonna believe it i'm fully
ready like all these companies are getting together in a dark cave somewhere and saying
hey there's this invention we can't let the fda know about it we know about it because if the fda
finds out we just got to make as much money as we can build our bunkers in new zealand and by the
time people get wise to it we're already safe in like 50 years they're just going to make as much money as we can build our bunkers in New Zealand. And by the time people get wise to it, we're already safe.
In like 50 years, they're just going to be in movies.
You just be watching a movie.
Can you believe doctors used to drink that in the office?
They just sit and drink it right in front of the.
That's what I'm afraid of.
It'll be the doctor lighting up the cigarette and mad men will be just be cracking open a seltzer.
Videos of videos of Theo Vaughn drinking Celsius Will be like
Our dog Draper
Coughing into a handkerchief
In later seasons
Pregnant ladies just shopping around
Drinking Waterloo
We'll be watching like
Drink the wine! The wine is so much better for you
No I mean yeah sure It's fun to joke this is a comedy
podcast i'm fully ready for some shit like that like didn't they say deli meat gives you cancer
not that long ago i don't know what's going everything does there was something about the
yeah like one of the ingredients in some of the sparkling waters that was bad and also that like
the secret ingredient that gives a lot of flavor comes from like beavers
anal glands everyone aware of that i've been sucking on beaver i wouldn't mind that one years
old i'm from well no that's that but that's real like that's like there's some actual thing right
that that's what i was told yeah i mean i don't know if it's an ingredient but somebody it was
somebody who took you aside on a street though right it wasn't it wasn't any sort of journal it was just like yeah i was out i i mean i guess i asked some pretty leading
questions that made it clear that i wanted to get that answer
just not not willing to leave the store like what's in this you could shoot me straight it's fever ass juice right anal gland
stuff anal gland stuff tell me level with me come on i'm in here all the time it's me it's your
buddy you know me who am i gonna tell look at me it's sean tell me i'm not gonna bring it up on
all fantasy everything come on we're not even drafting sparkling waters we're having power bars
uh it's an excellent pick sean jordan waterloo thank you good time for my first pick i'm going
something that has barely dipped its toes into the flavor game though it has dipped its toes
into the booze game but it's uh-oh its presence in the sparkling water universe to me is dominant singular and and
just a delight i'm taping topo chico that's my number one that's my number one i i shouldn't i
couldn't go for i knew it was going to be gone for sure topo chico is my number one for certain
that's what i have in my house it's really the only one that I consistently buy.
In ice cold in the glass bottle?
Yeah.
That is a tight bubble.
That is a tight, fast bubble.
I'll drink it not cold.
Like, it's that good to me.
The bubbles are that powerful
that I don't need it to be ice cold
to enjoy it.
Like, it's really, any way you serve it,
it's going to be a winner.
It throws heaters.
I don't understand.
That's another thing that I don't understand.
I would love, if any of you listeners
are a sparkling water expert of some kind,
let us know about these flavors.
Let us know the bubble discrepancy.
Where does that come from?
Why is Tapo Chico such a different bubble
than say a Waterloo?
The carbonation level or something? Yeah. How do they do they do is it like how they jack it up with the
carbonation i don't it really is as simple as um you know how you're doing the soda stream and it
goes yeah it's like the more you make it give a like a high pitch scream, that's it.
That's like gouging like a duck to get foie gras.
So it's just stuff.
So that maybe isn't unethical.
If we ever find out the water has some sort of sentience.
Yes.
You can turn the carbonation up and down.
How do you get a foie gras?
What do you do? You get basically like a rod and you like ram stuff down a goose's
or a duck's throat food you try to make it you force feed ducks yeah you force feed it so they
get a big fatty liver holy buckets i didn't know that delicious though delicious the jam that they
serve with it is usually more ethical which makes me feel better let me update my big board here capo chico i just let you're
right flavors the twist of lime is so good the grapefruit is great it's so subtle sometimes you
do want the waterloo sometimes you're like i want i'm craving a soda let me get something that's a
little bit close sometimes you just want the fuck pure delight of a top tier sparkling water.
I just love them.
I love,
I love the idea of being hot outside,
taking one forehead and then cranking it open.
I love that you need an opener.
You've got a top of Chico.
They have no cans now too,
don't they?
Yeah.
I saw some today.
I had not seen that yet.
I love the glass bottles though i love
the glass bottle i've i've been to costco and seen a plastic bottle topo chico and i just want to say
two and i've bought one at the albertsons on hillhurst i got the plastic bottle once and
it's okay i mean it's still a superior sparkling water but the experience of drinking it is not
the same it's different it's just different in the plastic bottle.
It really is.
Topo Chico, you were always going to go in the first round.
Now, I've always said Topo.
I do, too.
The number of times that you've said Topo,
I do have to deal with.
I think it's Topo Chico, Topo Gijo.
Topo Gijo.
Yeah. Topo Gijo. Topo Gijo. Yeah.
Topo Gijo. We have a model for this word already.
This structure exists.
But it's not Topo the morning to you.
That's true.
Okay.
All right.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
Just one thing for us to maybe.
Never heard of a Demi Tractor trailer.
Topo Chico, famously an Irish product.
Is it not?
Is it?
Yeah.
Am I imagining the apostrophe?
So,
so I,
I,
I get to go now.
Yes,
you do.
Twice.
And I,
and I'm going to,
and it crossed the road.
Was Topo Chico disappearing,
upsetting?
Would my other picks still have been here if I had been in the three spot or
even the two spot?
I genuinely thought, and I'm just going to get this out of the way now and people can use this
however they want. I thought somebody would be into what I consider to be the absolute trash,
which is Perrier and Pellegrino, which don't get them near me. They are parading as fancy and superior products and to me the bubble to water ratio is despicable
it should never be served there are restaurants where it's like i'll ask for club soda and
they'll be like well we'll give you a bottle of perrier and i'm like no give me the fucking gun
the real one put it in my mouth and pull the trigger. Go get that shotgun off the mantel.
Yeah.
Send me to Valhalla.
Because I want the carbonation.
I want the bite.
And to that end, I'm not dead here.
There is a, I'd like to turn the clock all the way back.
Now, this is similar to Hayes.
This is primarily an East Coast product. It is difficult to find on the way back. Now, this is similar to Hayes. This is primarily an East Coast
product. It is difficult to find on
the West Coast. I have actually
even ordered it to be shipped to me before.
But it's a brand. It's a
tried and true brand that
we all are familiar with in some form.
There are neighbors
to the north. They are Canada Dry.
Oh, baby.
Canada Dry. The mandarin orange and the lemon
lime are both excellent. The standard plain seltzer is excellent. Big bubbles, super refreshing.
When I lived in New York, I would stop into a bodega on my way home every night and grab one
of those big bottles of mandarin orange seltzer
put it next to my bed and drink it throughout the evening and so i think like that's a special one
to me i'm happy to have it as my first pick uh people have opinions on canada dry it's never
the one i grab you know it's good yeah i'm curious about it if i'm in like a new york store and it
has because i like polar and i'll get polar here yeah and it has polar and canada dry i actually
will lean canada dry i think the the coldness and the bubbliness is actually even stronger and i um
i miss it but they have cans the The cans are good, really good.
The big bottles are also good.
Like I'll take it both ways.
There's three different flavors I like.
It's good.
It has very much been the big plastic bottle.
And for me, it's a vodka of sitting down.
I'm going to play a video game for seven hours
and I've got like two of these
and I'm going to be drinking and burping
my way through balder's childhood yeah yeah that's what it feels like satisfying belch
no it's good yeah yeah settle your tummy down so canada dry number one i'm looking at these cans
those look delicious by the way i don't think i've seen these cans in the wild but they do look
i like the color scheme on there no it's it's really nice
um i i love and of course people have had their ginger ale and stuff they they do a good job
um something i'm curious about with to do a taste test but canada dry sells a quote original
sparkling water and they also sell club soda yeah so these are two different products
soda is a different thing and i'll take the club soda oh you're gonna take the club soda of the two
of the two canada dry club soda yeah club soda has a little salt that's what it is that's the
difference keeps you coming back yeah get that out come on back get the hooks in smart it's smart
for a water to do it's just smart
sure canada dry club soda i think it's a great pick feels like childhood to me i've taken canada
dry that's me and maybe somebody goes oh that's childish this guy's not a grown-up this guy's not
an adult this guy's not sophisticated he told me he doesn't like perrier and pellegrino so he can't
possibly have a mature choice for his second pick.
What if I
told you that
I am an adult man,
but inside
I don't mind a little Boylan's?
Boylan's? Wow.
I don't even know what it is.
Now that's only
bottles, right?
Boylan's goes bottles.
Boylan's is a premium brand.
They're fancy.
You'll find them in a nice deli or something.
Yeah, you do.
You find them in a hipster deli.
Yes, you'll find them in a hipster deli.
They'll have Boylan's.
They got the lemon lime.
They got the straight up normal.
And they also make like high sugar sodas.
Like they make like very high and like throwback sodas.
Yeah.
But they have a seltzer and they carbonate it well.
The glass bottle.
You know, if I can't get a Topo Chico because someone's taking it off the board for me,
I'm okay with the boilings.
I'm looking. I've definitely dabbled in the soda
realm with their black cherries and their creams.
Black cherry soda, yup.
Yup, that shit goes.
Good job. I love a Boylan's.
I think this is a great pick. It's the kind
of sparkling water you're going to find
at, these are very specific LA
references, but I imagine these exist everywhere.
Like at a Wine and Eggs or at a...
You know, like those little sandwich places.
They have it at Wine and Cheese.
Yeah.
Wine and Cheese.
Right.
The hipster, like the sort of the hipster LA bodega thing that I wonder if it's reverberated
out to the rest of the nation.
I imagine it has.
I feel like an Uncle Pauly's probably has Boylan's sodas.
So when you go to the grocery store,
there's like a soda section that has like Coke and Pepsi, et cetera.
Jones and all that. There's a separate section that has Fever Tree and Boylan's
and like that level.
And this is just, we're operating in a whole different category
from the traditional mass-produced sodas.
It's an echelon of both.
There's some care put into it.
It is funny when you find that other aisle and you're like,
oh, all right,
I'm not going to go hang.
I'm not going to be
in the Coke aisle anymore.
I'm going to be over here
wearing home some mixers.
It's a craftsman soda.
Impress the family.
It's a craftsman sparkle.
The CEO definitely plays
acoustic guitar.
He'll play a modest mouth song
for you on guitar.
Like, step on it
during a board meeting.
He doesn't care.
Never-ending math equation.
Shoes off.
Just noodling it out as they talk about, you know, they're playing for the Southeast Corridor. He doesn't care. Never ending math equation. Shoes off. Noodling it out as they
talk about, you know, they're playing for the Southeast Corridor.
That's all right. And Sean, you have a draft
strategy already, which is
like, you like soda specialists.
You do.
These are the first two
that are, these are primarily
soda. I mean, Canada Dry is a ginger ale
brand. Like, that's what they're
moving ginger ale.
And Boylan...
Yeah.
Doesn't mean that they're not...
No, I mean, like, this is a certain kind of upside, you know?
My ignorance will shine through later in the draft,
but I mean, the first two picks, like, Boylan's...
Because I want everything in the Boylan's family, so, yeah.
To me, that's the best pick so far.
I come for my second pick.
And I'm going to go, I have to go.
Listen, I don't.
This is out of respect.
This is out of tradition.
This is out of contribution to the game.
You don't have to stick up for yourself, man.
Say what you're going to say.
I hear you.
I do.
The entire point of this podcast.
Stick over here.
That's the entire point of this podcast.
This is almost contributions to the game.
Even if it's a little bit like stats before the leagues were integrated, it feels a little bit like I am taking LaCroix.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well,
look,
I think that's fine.
They're going to come after you.
I think they jammed themselves into the market.
Yes. Yes. And honestly, They're going to come after you. I think they jammed themselves into the market. They yes.
Yes.
And honestly, there's a world where if I had gotten like fully stuck, you know, in that last round, I might have even gone LaCroix just because you can rely on them.
Yes, you can.
They're there.
You grab it.
You pop it open.
It's not a disaster.
Now, is it a treat
no unless you're talking about the curate uh version
apparently i haven't tried it yet apparently they have a cola flavor that's um that's excellent and
i have something that i i i love i'm curious about yours, Ian. Controversy here.
I am a coconut LaCroix enjoyer.
Yeah, I think it's good.
I agree.
It's actually kind of fun to have one of those
and just pretend I'm on an island somewhere.
Feel the breeze.
Feel someone maybe braiding your hair.
People go, it tastes like suntan lotion.
And I go, well, suntan lotion smells like it would taste good.
It does.
Absolutely.
It does.
So then, like, why is that a knock?
Obviously, I'm not going to drink suntan lotion, but I would if I could.
And LaCroix has said, you can.
They delivered the promise of a dream.
Wait a minute, I'm living in a dream world.
Yeah.
I like it.
This is another one where I will drink. Like, I think their lime. I like it. This is another one
where I will drink,
like, I think their lime,
I think their lime is good.
I think the lime LaCroix
is just a solid innings eater
of a sparkling water.
It'll go out there.
I'll drink nine of them.
Can I say their biggest misstep?
What happened with that key lime idea?
Oh, I totally disagree.
I love it.
You like the key lime?
Yes, I prefer it to the lime.
I thought the lemon lime
was, like, solid, and then I was like, the key lime is too strange for i love it key lime i thought the lemon lime was like solid and then
i was like the key lime is too strange for me their key maybe i don't have a sophisticated
enough palette their key lime and their limoncello are from the same family which is like the the the
the fruit but also a little cream or something i don't know yeah like yeah there's a creamy element
that i did not care for
i mean i don't i'll go pure like i'll just take the pure strip and i like that they call it pure
it's not called original they're going this one is pure like your body's a fucking temple
treat it like one drink a pure lacroix it's more religious they do have a mojito they're
getting involved in the the mock game. They go crazy.
What is it? Passion fruit
pear or something?
The guava Sao Paulo?
Beach bum plum? Maybe. I think there's one.
Yeah, there's some kind of one that's like
What's pamplemousse?
That's grapefruit.
You're thinking peach pear, which is
I do like that one.
Peach pear is good, yeah.
Pamplemousse? Pample yourself.
Have you...
Have you had the cherry blossom flavor?
I have.
It tastes kind of oddly like chocolate.
Yeah, it does taste like chocolate.
I haven't quite been able to figure it out.
For me,
and this is an incredibly washed thing to say,
I would love to pour half of a pure into a cherry
blossom and just dilute that flavor take it down half a step it's a little bit it's a little bit
too much for me that cherry blossom it's a little bit insistent i totally agree but i do like what
they're going for you and i just needed i just need to take it down half a notch. That really resonates with me. I'm a little bit insistent. I'll give you a factoid
from my memory about LaCroix,
which is I read a list
of the best orange seltzers.
This was years ago now.
The best orange-flavored seltzers.
And top of the list was
tangerine-flavored LaCroix.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
And I think that's right.
I think the orange
tastes like really muted
and watered down,
but the tangerine
has the more like
citrusy bite.
And I do
enjoy that LaCroix.
I wouldn't be surprised
if a company like LaCroix
put out orange
and just to be like,
hey, this is a bit of a letdown
just so they could say,
but have you tried tangerine
to really get people
hooked on tangerine
now you know lacroix to me was like the first i think it was like the first one i ever unless we
talk about way back which i will bring up later unless we talk about when i'm like five or six
uh lacroix was the first one i ever saw in i think that i ever remember seeing and it was living with
you in like 2016 that was the first time to me that like
bubbly what all this stuff even ever existed i don't know if this is just going to be our
experience just because it's sort of a self-selecting uh idea here but like it seemed to work its way
into the popular culture via comedy show writers rooms yeah just television show writers that's
like where i got it from the first time i had never heard of la croix and then when i went to work at workaholics there was just pallets and pallets of it and they were
sending those guys like shirts and hats and like la croix gear and like just like yeah they but they
they were like this is a like this is a community of people who is going through massive amounts of like mini fridge.
Yeah, just stress drinking.
You can't drink soda that whole time.
Shit's horrible for you.
Like I used to work at call centers and you just sit and drink like five or six sodas every day.
And especially if you're trying to be creative, you can't do that shit.
So you got to have something. We were all in the exact same cohort that was targeted successfully.
Yeah.
That all kind of decided not to drink soda anymore.
At the same time, LaCroix was like a Midwestern brand.
It was something that was out there.
It's from La Crosse, Wisconsin.
Right.
And so it was like around.
But when we stopped drinking sodas they they were right there they they
shoved this thing in our hands and it worked it worked it worked 100 there's another pick that i
think we're going to talk about later that this is also a soda specialty company by the way this
is fago it's the fago fago makes lacro like it. Now it's my favorite. If they make Shasta
too, if I would have known that, I'm from
South Dakota, if I would have known that, I would have
picked them.
I should have dug in. I should have dug in
a little bit, baby.
You think I didn't go to an ICP show
and get Faygo sprayed all over me and never wash the
shirt until I had to throw it away about three years later?
I sure did.
I had a friend who did that with a towel that
the macho man Randy Savage
washed himself dry with, and he had it in a mini
fridge in his room.
Yeah, if you just keep it in the fridge, it's
okay. It's not going to get gross.
It's being refrigerated.
It was molding, and he was like, you want to see it?
I'm like, no. By the way, you show it to
me every time I come over.
Still looks the same.
Shout out to Tommy Layton.
Sean Jordan, time for your second pick.
Again, pardon my ignorance in this topic, but I'm going for me what I like.
And I don't know where this lands on the on the scale of if it's good or not.
But I like it.
And also the fun flavors.
The packaging isn't amazing, but I like the fun flavors.
I'm going to do that Good & Gather.
Do you get a Target?
Yeah.
Okay.
I like Good & Gather as a brand.
Because you can get fruit cocktail and acai.
I don't know.
It's fun.
It's colorful.
And I enjoy it.
Again, as a rookie to the sparkling water game.
To me, I love it.
I get it all the time i like that
i like oh i've seen that i've never purchased this one for myself i do very little because it
looks next to all the things that i get their water sometimes too uh you know gutter they're
not doing themselves any like huge favors with the that g that that lowercase g it just doesn't
look like it's i don't know the packaging leaves something to be desired.
Yeah, it's just a Target-specific brand, and I have respect for them.
Cucumber mint sounds nice.
I'm seeing a peach bellini flavor here.
That's what I'm saying.
They have tropical cherry fruit cocktail, like an acai one.
I don't know.
They're really fun to me.
I enjoy them.
I don't know if you guys do this, but'll have like six or seven different flavors and kinds at all so i can just
kind of pick what i want i don't i'm not really like a brand loyalist i go nuts like this isn't
like nike and adidas like i'll wear i'll i'll have three of these three different kinds in the car at
one time you wear that beer can helmet and you'll have two different sparkling waters up i when i go when i go running every day that's what i when you go running and
just insane chemistry happening in your mouth almost at all times like it used to be dr pepper
before lacroix got to me is what i say still jogging the only brand i'm crazy loyalty really
is is topo chico like that's like yeah i feel like we were early on on them. Like I was drinking it before it was everywhere.
And so I do feel like that's my little indie band that blew up.
That's like me with Pete Yorn and, you know, just like kind of before anybody knew who he was.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
So I have a lot of love for them.
But otherwise, you're looking for that experience.
Nothing else.
Like, frankly, if I if I'm just want of sparkling water in the LaCroix universe,
I'm just as happy with the Waterloo.
And I am saying it like the dude from Blackberry, Waterloo,
where the vampires hang out.
I'm happy with the Polar.
But if I want a Topo Chico.
There you go.
Topo.
If I want a Topo Chico, There you go. I'm going to warn it to you. Topo. If I want a Topo Chico,
that's the only thing that'll do.
Good and gather.
Do you buy groceries at Target too?
I will.
So if it's raining out,
I'll go to Target to get my steps in
and I'll just walk around.
I do this.
I walk every single aisle
just up and down.
And then,
Isaac, can you hear that lawnmower?
Sorry if you can't.
But I'll walk every aisle up and down.
And then I always grab something.
And a lot of time, it's a little pack of sparkling waters.
The lawn guy tried to warn you.
He tried to warn you.
Here I go with referencing the same thing I just did.
But when I was at Workaholics, we worked out of this warehouse in deep van eyes.
And there was nothing there. And everyone would be like, i kind of want to go for a walk after lunch but there's
like not a neighborhood that was really walkable or pleasant at all but there we shared a parking
lot with a target and so we would all go walk through target every single day perfect the
amount of like stupid like toys and stuff on everyone's desk was just infinite and
they had and that place at that time was the only place i had ever seen topo chico and it was there
and we and and we would buy i would buy a whole like you know palette of it and bring it home but
um you'd buy a lot of hats that would reference uh haters in some way i had a lot of i i had a
lot of shirts yeah i had weird hats and
like i heard you heart like going for big numbers that's right yes yeah the same thing every like
trash talky basketball shirt they had i would buy um and uh yeah so i i was in there all the time
but i have a real affinity for target and a nice long Target walk is very enjoyable.
I do too.
When I first was on my own, I would get the room essentials,
where it's like you need a comforter, but you don't get a million bucks,
$20 comforter, and they all match.
And you feel cool about yourself.
You go get some $6 towels.
But again, it matches.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I still like, I'll go
up front. What's their soap brand? Sunday Mornings?
Is that them?
That sounds right.
It would be, yeah.
Tuesday, that's what it is.
I'm more of an Axe
guy myself. I don't really
know.
I'm going to go ahead and Axe
Hayes. So good, dude.
Such a good podcast. That's to make his second and third picks
I am going to take
this is another
this is making an aggressive
entry into the space
we're seeing it more and more
this is my daughter's favorite
so I need to pick this one up for her
I'm gonna take
Nixie's
oh sure Nixie does not have a or they do have a standard lime that
you can't find as often but they're i feel like the main line that they have is a lime ginger
that's great they have a watermelon mint which is not a flavor i've seen anywhere else and that one
is really really good it's a delight we had so much black cherry lime in the house that i just
got tired of it it's organic i don't know what that means in this context at all but it's it's a delight we had so much black cherry lime in the house that i just got tired of it it's
organic i don't know what that means in this context at all but it's it's almost weird
that that's something that it can be organic yeah what so what is the other stuff yes it is making
the other ones like uh open your mind's eye dude you gotta look with your third eye if you want to
find it i i've never of it, this isn't like
I don't want to sound crazy, it's not like
For kids
It's not for kids
No, it is for adult women
This was an impulse purchase aisle
It is for adult women
I think Nixie is for adult women
This was an impulse, like Whole Foods 365
Impulse purchase
Is when I had my first Nixie, the watermelon mint delight.
They have a caffeinated one, too.
They have a peach black tea, which has 30 milligrams of caffeine, which is perfect for just like 11 p.m.
Nixie sounds like a vape pen company.
You just want to struggle to go to sleep.
Yeah.
You don't want to have weird dreams.
You don't want to be kept up. You just want to be to go to sleep. Yeah. You don't want to have weird dreams. You don't want to be kept up.
You just want it to be a little hard.
You want to have that, I'm never... I want to feel like
I achieved something when I fall asleep. You're still very
tired. You're just not sleeping.
Did I sleep last night?
I certainly don't remember being
awake for eight hours in bed, but I also don't
feel like I slept. Like that feeling?
That's what I'm all about. My body will just give in by
default. I want to be battling. want a hot quiet darkness that just sort of makes me part of it
i don't know yeah i don't know i don't feel like i wake at points i must have been asleep at some
points there's no real structure to any of it.
You try to think of a dream and you're like,
let's just let the day decide how much I slept last night.
Yeah.
Neither science nor poetry is capable of describing how I slept last night.
Nixie is delicious.
I love Nixie.
It is a new.
It's really good.
It's got to be a real challenge.
It's probably like starting a podcast this year.
I don't even know it.
You're getting into a
crowded field you know so you it's really tough to stand out i wonder how you do you gotta pop
somehow yeah i'll make i'll try some nixie can i just get it anywhere again pardon my
stupid ignorance you kind of can't okay so get this i'm reading the the about us and I knew the founder was named Nicole.
She signs the cans like we know this, but she's talking about growing up on the counter of my mother's natural food store in the 1970s and the factory floor of my father's company.
Cape Cod potato chips.
Whoa.
So this is not like, you know, some just like some upstart. Are these yes we cape cod potato chips that's that's a big that's not a small wheel in the potato chip world
am i wrong about that she also i mean she this nicole has game she found it late july
which if you google it you'll recognize they have like tortilla chips
and stuff they're good that was one of the first brands to carry the usda organic seal so what she
has her hands on is a is a proprietary she has a stamp she has the organic stamp she has a lock on
it and so she managed to get it on her her uh that's health food mom that's the combination
of health food mom
factory dad
absolutely
a classic archetype
in popular culture
that's right
good for
carob
just grown up
eating carob
you know
on weekends
so I have another
pick now
do I get one more
later
you get to go
you get
you get another one now
and you get two more
I get two more later
okay
so this one is still going to be there.
I'm going to take
Hop
WTR
as it's stylized.
That's available?
Yeah, I knew that was going to be gone
if Sean got his hands on it.
I mean, I didn't pick it.
Does it count?
Yeah, I just didn't know if that counts. It's a sparkling hop water. I kind't pick it. He means like, does it count? Yeah. I just didn't know that counts is like, it's a sparkling hop water.
I kind of think it counts.
I've never had one.
I'm ignorant to this.
I've seen it.
It counts.
It counts.
I think more than, I mean, it's not a hop tea, which is a different thing.
Yeah.
This is a sparkling water.
It's just flavor.
They make.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is sparkling water.
It's just flavor.
They make, yeah, yeah.
So, you know, there's all these hopped beverages going around.
Lagunitas has their hopped seltzer.
That's good.
They're all good.
I like basically all of them.
I haven't had the pleasure. What is the experience of a hop, a non-alcoholic hop beverage?
This isn't beer water, is it?
It is beer water.
It's beer water. No way, it is beer water.
It's like your...
It's non-alcoholic hops.
Yeah, it's just the hops flavor.
Whoa.
It's like your approach to the Cherry Blossom LaCroix,
but with a very, very light...
With like a Michelob.
If you did that, it's like a Michelob.
Okay.
Now this I gotta try too.
I can see the appeal of this totally
my personality is that I
drink these every day
you're holding the double hop
I have a I have a
monthly subscription I get like three
cases of this sent to me in the mail
every month and it's
um this is the double hop
dry hopped it's like got a little bit more
of a bitter flavor
than the one you'll find
just in the store.
That's like,
just got sort of a light herbal taste.
This is a little closer to like
a very, very, very faint IPA
with no alcohol.
Okay.
Wild.
I like it a lot.
This is a very adult sparkling water well the flavor ones are at our
um like it would have been my number i will say it would have been my number one pick because i
drink it every day i just did not think that we were doing that as like a sparkling water because
it feels to me like it's like in a different category i think it's in a different world but
do we want to take this off the board this seems's just a sparkling water. That's all it is.
Go ahead.
I love that we're talking about it.
In the marketing, I'm seeing the word sparkling water.
I'm seeing hop water, sparkling hop water.
Look, I went through my mind as like,
is this a thing?
But because it's like so much of the sales point of it
is that it is like a hop water.
It just felt like a different thing to me.
What's the calorie count?
We're putting up zeros.
That, to me, is what qualifies it.
That's sparkling water.
We don't even have a splash in this.
Zero carbs, zero sugar.
Look at that.
No header.
They have a great lime as well.
Excellent lime. They have a great lime as well. Excellent lime.
They have a good lime.
Their main flavored ones are mango, blood orange, and lime.
Mango's great.
Mango's really good.
The lime is good.
They have a peach that is pretty good.
You can't find it as often, but it is good.
And my daughter will drink these as well.
Okay, so it is a kid-friendly.
That's awesome. It's a great entry point. They have a ginger citrus one, Hayes. Okay, so it is a kid-friendly. That's awesome.
It's a great entry point.
They have a ginger citrus one, Hayes. Have you had it?
No!
It's really got a lot
of zip. I was impressed
with how much
bite there is to it.
I liked it a lot.
When my next monthly shipment
of these comes, they're throwing in a six-pack of the ginger citrus for free because I'm such a lot. And when my next monthly shipment of these comes,
they're throwing in a six-pack of the ginger citrus for free because I'm such a loyal customer.
They know I like it.
Look at that.
Friend of the program.
That's how you do it.
Yes.
I also like the branding.
I like the way it looks.
I like that they're not condescending to their audience.
They know I can spell water without the vowels.
Thank you.
So you're okay with your daughter having L-theanine
for mood and cognitive performance as well as ashwagandha to de-stress and unwind so you're
a nootropics dad at this point that's how you're you have an adaptogenic child yes yes my child has
been fully adaptogenized i didn't understand i didn't understand we did that in utero so now
she needs it to just kind of like to stay i'm afraid you can do that now
it would have been such a shock to the system none of that made sense to me i don't know what
you guys just said for the last two minutes it's cold dry hopped and micro filtered to deliver an
extra bold and piney hop experience i know and sean do you want to shout out some of the other
hop uh so i mean maybe you'll get one well i i yeah i mean i can take this other one when it
gets back to me now that has that was my my og but now has become sort of my second choice well
let's get there sean jordan you got to make your pick first well since we're in sort of a limbo so
we're i mean hard seltzers count no no no all right no that's a different draft. Some of them do. They have non-alcoholic White Claws now.
That counts.
That's seltzer.
What you're talking about.
The seltzer.
Yeah, that would be wild.
Well, then I will go again.
Something that's good to me.
Ian put me on this one.
Spindrift.
I like me a Spindrift.
This was why I asked
about the Splash. And if we're taking it, that's
fine. We did establish that up front.
Oh, do they have a Splash in there?
That's the whole thing.
I'm not a Spindrift.
They have calories.
They itemize the fruits that are in there.
It's a Splash of juice.
That's their whole game.
People do categorize them
as seltzer people do also treat you like you're getting like a huge treat if they have spindrift
for you when you ask for a seltzer yeah i mean i get i get them or they did like that is this okay
like is this gonna be too much for you yeah we've actually got spindrift okay i'll take top water
all right let's live i guess I'll just walk an extra mile
Do you have a home?
I think we allow
I saw a fire hydrant down the block
Yeah, I'll just crack that open
Don't worry about me
Do you have a comically oversized wrench?
I think we allow this
Partially because I'm not i don't count myself among the
fans maybe you put me on it because it would be like a good uh it'd be like a maybe you told me
because it'd be like a good introduction for me to get into some sparkling waters i think i brought
some home just to be like i've heard a lot about this. I've heard tell of the spin drift. I shotgunned them all.
These go fast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They do go fast.
They are empty before you know it.
Yes.
Which seems like the can is smaller somehow.
No, it's getting less in there.
Yeah.
Yeah. But they're not super carbonated because of the juice.
They don't have.
It doesn't hurt.
They do.
They feel like drinking a flat soda to me a little bit like i i they just
they they feel like the bubbles aren't strong enough the flavors not defined enough it's just
like you're trading neither here nor there yeah um yeah for me that's kind of how i love them
and all respect to the people who are enjoying them i i hope that you have a beautiful
and full life but you'll do it without me i will be standing on the shore with bidding you a do
well that's we had in our room uh caroline goldfarb who's like a very sure yeah who's awesome
and also just like huge like huge online there's no way to say that without sounding just completely out of touch
at all,
but like very engaged.
And also has a package food empire now.
Package food empire.
Yeah.
With the,
the fish wife and,
uh,
yeah.
Was in early on.
Spend drift,
got like a,
had them send a spin drift fridge to our writer's room and stocked it with
spin drift all the time. Just cause she like knew the reps. So we always have spend fridge to our writer's room and stocked it with Spindrift all the time,
just cause she like knew the reps.
So we always have Spindrift in our room.
Sean and I have a intimate experience with this.
We worked with,
uh,
on a couple of shows with Jared Paul and Andy Mogul who wrote the movie.
Yes,
man.
Yeah.
In which famously,
uh,
Jim carries character consumes a red bull and and basically has to be institutionalized.
He just runs around like Red Bull, Red Bull, Red Bull.
Yes.
Red Bull.
This was like 2011 with this movie.
Red Bull.
Yes.
Breaks him forever.
It is where you're like.
And that did so much to the brand that now a Red Bull fridge follows them
wherever they go,
everywhere they go.
Any office,
there is a fridge provided by Red Bull and kept stocked full with Red Bull
all the time.
Oh,
that's so dope.
Wild.
They will be buried in a fluke dog.
I saw,
we went to the,
we went to those in Portland and Laura got heatstroke.
My wife got heatstroke.
And the only thing around was Red Bull.
She was she had to sit down on the ground and I was just running around and there was so much Red Bull everywhere.
But there was no like bottles of water.
It was an extreme heatstroke.
Yeah, I was getting back across the Hawthorne Bridge.
I was like, go get your water across the
bridge but right now it's red bull i guess drink the river at that point there's a few new spin
drifts they have a grape aid now that i haven't tried oh an island punch and i do just want to
establish this is as far as we're going we're not going into the diet soda type stuff that like the poppies
I don't think we can take poppy
I think that's yeah we can't do a probiotic
is that that gut soda is that that stuff
yeah
poppy we can't do it
it's been not going ollie pop
it's not going to happen
that's what I was thinking of yes that's funny
that's a topo topo I say
ollie pop
but it probably is ollie pop I call it ollie pop yeah thinking of. Yes, that's funny. That's a topo-topo. I say Olipop.
But it probably is Olipop.
I call it Olipop.
If I can five-hole you with Spindrift, then thank you. I appreciate it.
That's very nice of you.
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I'm going to make my third pick here.
I'm going to take, I'm going to take bubbly.
I'm going to take bubbly.
I like it.
I think it's solid.
I actually, I like it better than LaCroix and I connect them in my head.
Yeah.
I think it's less, less major. I think it's a less major player. LaCroix was a bit, I drink plenty of LaCroix and I connect them in my head. Yeah. I think it's less major. I think it's a less major
player. LaCroix was a bit... I drank
plenty of LaCroix. Don't get me wrong.
That was just... Picked LaCroix second
and Bubbly third. Now he says he likes Bubbly better.
Get a little bit.
Get in his kitchen. Get him.
Joker vibes, dude.
Joker vibes, bro.
You're fucking twisted.
I'm going Joker mode.
Twisted, dude.
But I do, I think I, and this is a, this might be a one flavor pick for me.
Ooh.
I will enjoy all the flavors.
The cherry flavor of bubbly.
It like, I don't understand.
When I'm in the mood, when I'm really in the mood for a soda or something sweet, but I'm trying to be healthy or I don't want to introduce that into my system, a Cherry Bubbly tastes so much like a Dr. Pepper to me that I truly don't understand how they do it.
That's cool.
It really tricks you.
It's fucking so good.
I think the Cherry Bubbly specifically is my favorite flavored sparkling water out of all
the flavored sparkling waters if i had to pick a number just one flavor i don't think they do
everything quite as well their lime i think leaves something to be desired it's a little bit of a
thicker sip i'm not looking for that thick of a sip on a lime but out of the cherry flavor the
cherry bubbly sits atop a throne of aluminum for me they have a lightly caffeinated
one they have bubbly bounce yeah i've seen the they're introducing a bellini bliss flavor getting
into the the mocktail game now this of course is the biggest like soda specialist so this is pepsi
this pepsi this is pepsi joining them in absence of being able to beat them.
So, okay. If you caffeinated a little bit, is all the rest of this stuff
still zeros?
Yeah, it's all zeros. I mean, Celsius is all
zeros. We're not counting Celsius.
So it's like
coffee, you just get a little caffeine.
Mostly zeros. Maybe some sodium.
Maybe some sodium. I don't know.
See, there's where I feel so dumb when I just don't get it.
Now let's talk about the other
soda giant
that tried to get into this
and failed.
So you remember AHAs?
You had AHAs.
And they did suck.
They are being discontinued.
No way. Okay.
Yes. AHA. They said
fuck this. The. Yes. Aha. They said, fuck this.
Yeah.
The cans look too stupid.
I never even thought about buying one because the cans look so dumb.
Their heart wasn't in it.
The cans don't look refreshing enough.
The cans look.
No.
Letters are too big.
They look like they will weigh you down.
They're too colorful.
The colors are too bright.
It's like I'm trying to have a light beverage here.
It's a fucking comedy
i hope they die i think we can all say i call them haha because i'm laughing at the entire
premise that they would be able to trick me into drinking that yeah so i've i've a reddit post here
from the american airline subreddit from a month ago. And it's on a flight from...
Big wine airline, American.
Yeah.
On a flight to SAT from PHX
and ordered a pre-flight aha.
Oh, pre-flight aha.
Pre-flight aha.
Right?
Call.
I'm making an aha.
The flight attendant apologized
when he returned with a
regular soda water
and told him that it was
his first flight since it was discontinued.
Wow.
How's he going to fly anymore?
Was it a Boeing?
You're falling apart, man.
Was it a Boeing?
This thing goes deeper than any of us realize.
I would be surprised.
Sean, it's time for your second or your third and fourth so okay so let me talk about the hop water scandal here um so hop wtr
has become my number one choice the first way i ever got into this i will say was from h2 ops that was the first top one from which
hayes had brought for a podcast record had brought to uh the podcast record and i was like oh i love
this and then i started buying h2 ops i don't know if they're still kicking anymore yeah they
yeah there are grocery stores that would have them that I would just like buy the whole shelf because I was like, they're so hard to find and they'd be dusty.
They were sitting there.
Yeah, they got in early and they were something about the name H2 Ops maybe didn't.
It wasn't it wasn't helping.
I love them.
And when I do see because you will see like a random
like four pack of them around and it's like
I'll grab it but
and then Lagunitas came
in with their hoppy refresher I think
H2Ops is far superior to the
Lagunitas one there's some like
quinine aftertaste to the Lagunitas that
I don't really care for
the
company that I then moved on to was a sparkling hop tea company called Hoplark.
Now they had a lot of teas. They then did branch into just straight up doing sparkling water.
And the sparkling water product from them that I prefer is the Mosaic Hops. Now they have some
flavored ones. They have vanilla bean. They have tropical hops.
They're hit or miss for me. They can be good. They can be bad. There's like a lemon drop one.
There's one called Citra Hops, which is a little more bitter. There's one called Sabra that has
like a little bit of a tropical feel to it. But the Mosaic Hops one is very good i do sometimes order or have ordered like a 12 pack of
that but i'm now i'm now mostly hop wtr loyal i'll take the hop lark mosaic hop sparkling water
they're sparkling water with hops and it's same thing as as hayes gets has that flavor they're
not adaptogenic so it might be better for your child actually yeah um uh where do you even i've
never seen hop lark in the wild i don't think where would
they sell they actually find the chamomile the chamomile one you can find uh i thought
it was whole foods initially they had a green tea one and a black tea one crystal farms as i'm gonna
go look the second we're done i'm going on a mission after this i am max is gonna be asleep
by the amount of knowledge that i didn't know existed on this subject i was my list is so tiny compared to what i'm hearing the three
i'm just living in this world you know the hoplark hoplark has and they do like a special
new flavor every month and i for a little while they sent me like some free product and some gear
at one point um because I was talking about them on
on our podcast a lot and
it was really nice and those
teas can be good
they have a huge selection the white tea one
is very pleasant
so I like them
tall tea one too?
yeah and they are tall
they are tall boys
it is a tall boy
the mascot's tall
um yes a big tall bird actually i have a sticker on my laptop let me see they look boulder based
yeah oh yeah there it is i have a subscription so that's the relax pack which is and this will
set you back this is a status symbol you see the hoplark subscription
box on the front porch people know you know the neighbor you're doing okay yeah i cut the shipping
labels off all my packages just so people don't know what's coming to the house that is the gray
man philosophy and the preparedness is important but you don't want to be the house that all your neighbors come to
because they're aware that you've been shipping in hoplark hopty right they're like hey just get
stopping hey do you have anything to drink as far as they know you don't have a generator you know
what i mean you're using a flashlight although you do have the option to run like your your
internal appliances we're gonna generate we just looked into it i'm pretty excited
oh that's sick um i'm
gonna go with a little bit of a surprising choice just before we get a pop lark i want to say ian
you my favorite flavor is the spruce one the sprucey one that's really good you in particular
this is like you don't have to fly home anymore like it tastes like the woods it's really good
yeah it does it does it tastes like a pine tree. I'm getting your address.
This is you got to suck down a 12 pack of these.
I'll say that out loud on the podcast.
No, I'm putting it.
When you say a hoppy tea, I don't want to.
I don't think I've ever had a hoppy tea.
It's different.
It's different.
So they have their hopped teas, but they're not all teas.
But yeah, it is. Hop Lark is the brand they're not all teas. But yeah, it is tea.
Hop Lark is the brand.
They launch with teas, but they also have sparkling waters.
But the tea is nice.
The black tea in particular, that really does,
because of the bitterness of both the black tea and the hops,
that does feel...
I don't drink.
So for me, it is a little bit of like uh i'm popping
a cold one open yeah it's got it's got a real kick to it for me um and a little caffeine as well
maybe 45 milligrams just enough to keep you awake just to keep you up and should we go down that
riff again one of those i loved it the first time and i remember most of it um so let me get into my
other choice and i and i was inspired i've got a couple things
on the table here that i could do but i was inspired by the good and gather pick and i'm
gonna go with another internal like store brand i like the 365 seltzers yes wow i and they do a ginger one oh no um my my screen went away i like i like
the ginger 365 and i i just think they do a good job they've got some great cans there you know
it's it's reliable like i would take it over la cro or, or bubbly for me personally. Um,
that felt personal.
Yeah,
it did.
I felt very pointed.
Yeah.
And, and probably,
and,
and Waterloo as well.
Thank you.
Go ahead and put Waterloo.
They're not as LaCroix or as flavor as flavorful.
Cause they,
yeah,
there's another,
there's another one on between,
but I think that,
uh, I, I I think that I'm gonna
I'm gonna stick with 365
the 365 lime it passes the lime test
with flying colors yeah it does
it's good yeah their lime is great
the ginger like you said fantastic
yeah I really like that one
yeah 365 national
are they national chain
Whole Foods it's Whole Foods
it's one and the same i didn't know
what it what is it then what's the difference it's just a different same just a different i think it's
i think it's the same company it's the brand it's the house brand it's the house brand and the 365
they're they're a whole food 365 which is a different style of store for them sort of like
there used to be like k mart and super k or something i think
it has to do with like the layout yeah i got a cheese monger no fish monger they've got a the
one and there's a little deli but you can't walk up to the deli the one in there's a slice of meat
it's all pre-packaged yeah they're not calling it 365 anymore they got rid of that oh they got rid
of that i mean that's still the brand in-house but
it's right yeah but it's called whole foods now yeah i'll go i'll go 365 and you guys may be
noticing i'm i go less sweet on a lot of my on a lot of my flavors that's you're right your
criticism of bubbly it is cloying it can be a cloying flavor well spit well and and spin drift
you know is the same it's a little less sweet. It's a little sweeter.
So that's just my personal palate.
That's what's informing this.
Couldn't cloy more.
Couldn't cloy more.
If it's keeping company with seltzer waters rather than sodas,
the amount of cloying is just off the charts.
Sure.
I'm for my fourth pick.
I was going to pick white cloy, but you guys said I couldn't.
You can pick a non-alcoholic white cloy.
You can pick the non-alcoholic, yeah.
That's insane.
I'm walking up to a taco stand.
I'm getting myself three tacos. I'm sitting down.
Okay, yes. I need a frosty beverage.
I'm getting a Minaragua.
I'm getting a Sparky Rana Minaragua.
That was on my list. Oh, I should show you.
I have it written down.
Minaragua.
But you know what I realized? The
Boylins and the Minaragua
are just like the glass bottle,
like kind of night,
like not as good as Topo Chico,
but similar feel.
They're so close.
I didn't need them both on my,
it was just,
I drafted for need rather than best available player.
You can only start two wide receivers.
You can't,
you know,
there's only two slots right there.
It's just,
it's just positional for me.
That's why.
Minaragua was delicious.
If a place doesn't have a Topo Chico, I often find them at LA taco stands. You'll see a Minaragua. It's just positional for me. The Mineral Agua was delicious. If a place doesn't have a Tapachego,
I often find them at LA Taco Stands. You'll see
a Mineral Agua. It's just delicious.
It is what it is. They get cold
in that glass bottle.
No, it's a lot like Topo.
It is Haritos.
It's Haritos.
Colder than a stepmother's glance.
It is Haritos. Just held up
against my forehead, then cracking it open, drinking it, eating a couple rad glance. It is Haritos. It is Haritos. Just held up against my forehead,
then cracking it open, drinking it,
eating a couple of radishes.
Cool Ranch Haritos.
It's a Cool Ranch Haritos.
Cooler Ranch.
When you said the Boylins and the Micaraguans,
it sounded like a Hatfield-McCoy type situation,
like some brutal war that's been going on forever.
The Soda Wars.
It's one that's going to happen in the future. I said Minaragua.
You said Micaraguan.
Micaraguan.
I'm Irish.
I'm Irish and Nicaraguan.
You know when you said the Boyles and the Nicaraguans.
The Micaraguans.
That's what I thought it was. I'm looking at it.
I've never seen it in my life.
Minaragua? You've seen Minaragua.
Dad's Irish. Mom's from Nicaragua. I'm a Micaraguan.
I'm a Nicaraguan. Boy, we need to go find that person and make them do stand-up comedy
yeah my house is a little different
and boy my mother was guilt would guilt me not like like anyone else's brother. Sean Jordan, it is time for your
fourth pick.
Alright.
Can I, so,
and again, I think it counts, but can I do
the liquid death, but the flavor ones?
Yep.
I was wondering when those would go.
Yeah, they've made
an aggressive push to, obviously,
I mean-
That's who I was alluding to in the LaCroix conversation.
Well, this is with like Comedy Fest.
I know it's really specific, but like Comedy Fest, it's like a lot of people are making
that choice currently.
Like, I'm not going to drink or I'm not going to get hammered the whole time.
And so Liquid Death made it look like beer.
And I thought it was beer for two years at comp at the denver comedy festival and
uh and then you crack what over you're like oh great and their ad thing was really i mean it
was a really smart like hack to be yeah sure they just did they made it look like a beer commercial
they said like it's you know it's dangerous it's water water is fucking badass now it was
really smart play and they're and they're
killing it they're killing it they're everywhere they and like any podcast that i think mostly
like you got a most podcast studios they're just like filthy with liquid death they must send them
they must see the guy's a huge comedy fan who like started the company so he like sent it to a bunch
of comedians and that makes sense and like if you just want to water me, but others,
nor I,
nor I know,
no,
but like a straight up water to gas station.
Uh,
I feel so bad doing like the one use plastics things.
I know aluminum is not amazing,
but it's like better.
So you can get a can of water instead of getting a bottle of water.
So it just makes it easier to get water when you're just at a gas station or
something.
When Hayes and I do our live show at dynasty typewriter, will have already happened when this comes out but we do them every few months
there's a there's a fridge full of liquid death in the back you better yes there is one open
and then they got in the flavor game man they got their berries they don't they have a splash
do they god they all have yeah they all have scary of a cheater. They got a little splash of agave or something in there.
You're going to be, yeah, taking home four or five grams off of one of those tall boys.
You know what I don't like is a non-sparkling liquid death.
Just the flop water?
The water is bad.
It's bad water.
Well, can I say this?
See, that's what I was just saying.
I drink the water all the time.
I'm also not a flavors are all so bad. I drink the water all the time.
I'm also not a fan of the flavored ones, but I like this pick because I like the non-flavored
liquid deaths.
But I haven't tried them all.
I like the straight up
seltzer water a lot. Yes. Me too.
I like the regular. I like the water water.
That's what I was just talking about. I get the normal.
It's bad water. I get it all the time.
It comes perclugging out of it.
Yes.
Look, if they want to send me something, it'll get drank.
Oh, yeah.
But we're wet boys.
Yeah.
Yeah.
End of the day.
End of the day.
We're wet boys.
The human body is 98% water.
It's 99%.
It's just me.
I'm all liquid, baby.
I'm liquid.
Liquid in the streets.
They sent a pallet,
multiple pallets to this homeless services group.
I work with,
this was early,
early,
early in,
in liquid death.
It was not like really out there yet.
Round of applause for the home.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And the number one,
people did not like,
we would give out the water and people that,
what? Not into this water but also
this only happened once that i this only happened once that i know of
but they uh someone got pulled up on by a police officer for carrying a you know just like a an old english
tall boy is what it looks like down the street and something we never thought of of course but
we're just releasing people with open containers into the wild and they have to be like it's water
and no it's not with distinctive
tall boy branding
that's very funny
I got a fucking
liquid death
and a brown bag
I got a brown bag
by
it's like cranberry
death water
sounds like a
four loco flavor
yeah that's
just doing it wrong
you're not gonna
slide that one
past the Nicaraguan
take it down
to Mulholland
good pick good pick
good pick Liquid Dead hey it's time for your
fourth and then your final picks the last round is a
lightning round okay I
am gonna
take I knew this
would still be on the board but maybe you've seen
them Ouroboros
they're only skinny cans
they have them at the yummy.com
store among other places we all at the yummy.com store, among other places.
We don't know the yummy.com store.
These are herbal, which means they have some.
There's an herb forward quality.
Thank you, Isaac.
Isaac, get in here.
They're so good.
Oh, I need a little backup here.
These, I think, are excellent.
They have a basil strawberry one, I think.
And like basil, you know, basil's the herb there.
Lavender, cucumber, lemongrass, coconut.
There's a twist on an old favorite.
Can I tell you something here?
Because I've been Googling all these waters as we go along,
just to refresh my memory.
This is the targeted ad.
Every time I type in whatever sparkling water,
Ouroboros are up at the top.
So there's some VC money behind this right now.
Taking a big swing.
Big cuts.
Taking a big swing.
They're trying to get in there.
Cactus Rose.
And they do Ginger Meyer lemon, which I love.
It's like, oh, yeah.
Oh, you can taste the Meyer.
Oh, yeah.
It's a Shark Tank brand.
They went on Shark Tank.
These guys are going on Shark Tank, I guess.
They're going on Shark Tank.
I didn't know this.
And this is the lightning round, correct?
Next is the lightning round.
No, it's not the lightning round.
Ouroboros.
And now it's the lightning round.
I'll take Sanzo.
Okay.
We've seen them.
These are out there, too.
These are newer, but like Yuzu Calamansi.
Delicious.
Sanzo water.
These have a little splash
I like a Sanzo
The lychee
Is that what you said?
Definitely neither of those
It's not larch meat
Lunch meat
Gives you cancer
The lunch meat flavor
Will give you cancer
For a lot of people that's
the draw that's the city i'm from in micaragua sean jordan so i want i wanted to take clearly
canadian i don't think it counts but there's a zero there is there there's a clearly canadian
zero that i found that i mean that vanished i know this is a lightning no that was what i grew
up with yeah it's what I grew up with too.
I'm looking it up. You can get it.
They have one called Zero.
I want to see if I can take it.
To me, that's a diet soda.
Is that a diet soda?
It's a flavor.
Clearly, Canadian was such a...
I don't know.
It never seemed like a sparkling
water to me, even though they say it's a sparkling
water. They're like, we are a sparkling water,
but it's so calorie.
They have a sparkling essence.
You can have their
sparkling essence.
Everyone on here has a sparkling essence.
Thank you very much.
Clearly Canadian, zero.
Absolutely.
We're not taking zero sugar,
zero calories because that's,
that's full of stevia.
I defer to you.
So I'm asking,
I,
I,
uh,
there's no like Stevie,
any of the,
now we're in only pop territory.
So let the guys take it.
We don't have sparkling essence.
It doesn't have sparkling essence.
I think we've declared a clear band.
I think the steps,
it's toe over at sean jordan
all right give him the sparkling essence people are gonna be so mean to me on twitter because
i didn't let you know no people are going to fucking devastate me the jordanites dude
listen the jordanian army is going to be coming for me if well telling me just like the jordanians
the jordanians and the micaraguans are going to be like you did not honor his truth
guy Ian is the reason I didn't flip
out of my wedding so if anybody ever wants to come
and just have even a morsel of internet
defense for me understand that I
would die for that man and I don't say that
lightly I really would so it's
all in good fun every single thing we do
on this show let me get very fucking serious
for a minute every single thing is in fun now that
being said
I'm out of options so kirkland all right i gotta do it i like it oh reliable
i'm a man of the people i'm you know i'm i still will get some kirkland it's there it's it's fine
it's the flavors i don't have a picky palate so yeah yeah, I'm surprised it hasn't gone,
but you know,
it tastes great.
What value?
It does.
Yeah.
That extra 10 bucks in my pocket.
That tastes pretty good.
Sean,
do you want to trade hop teas?
Do we do this?
Yeah,
absolutely.
I love it. I love it.
When people bring it up,
we can allow a trade for sure.
Nobody does,
man.
It doesn't have enough.
You want to trade hoplark and Hopwater?
I'm willing to.
This. Sanctioned and approved.
Yeah. We just started implementing
that. Thank you.
I'm going for a beefy
boy here.
And I'm going to take a refreshing
stroll through the mountain valley.
Okay. Interesting.
So I have three left on my list for my last pick and I know it's
lightning round,
but I'm going last.
So yeah.
One,
one thing that's been there from the beginning that,
and I'll tell you the reason I'm not taking it.
So mountain Valley was there just in case.
Yeah.
Schweppes has been on my list.
Now Schweppes is good.
And I'm surprised Sean Jordan,
for some reason,
I thought you were going to go Schweppes with that Kirkland pick I heard our buddy Kyle Kinney is very funny and
comedian all weekend he was saying Schweppes uh Schweppes he wasn't kidding and I didn't
it just there was not a time where I was like you say Schweppes but I'll bring it up at some
point when the mood is right but gotta hold his feet to the fire on that one. So, so Schweppes,
so Schweppes,
uh,
it's just the only reason I'm not taking it is because I have Canada dry.
Yeah.
They are so inextricably linked in my mind.
And again,
when you're in,
when I'm in like a deli or whatever that has them,
it's like,
they usually have both.
And if they have both,
I'm taking Canada dry.
Although if they don't happily take a Schweeps again mandarin orange lemon lime original all good
in the spirit of drafting and doing what they do in the nba draft at the very end of the last round
i'm gonna take a big euro that wasn't on anybody's radar and i am going to go with Gerolsteiner. Oh, Gerolsteiner!
Yeah, that's a sparkling water.
That's what they do.
Yeah.
That's a Wasser.
That's a Wasser.
Fucking Wasser, baby.
He was going to be on the Pacers, right?
Gerolsteiner.
Yes, it's Gerolsteiner.
Yeah.
Maybe we'll get some quality minutes
you know
he can go get you five fouls at the very least
Gerolsteiner
yeah
that's a great pick
that's a great round out the bench
so you may be able to grab
Schweppes off waivers or something
Schweppes is on waivers
well first Isaac do you have a pick?
Super producer Isaac.
Yeah.
I'm going to take another Euro here.
Aquapana, the Italian brand.
Oh, okay.
That's good.
When that comes out, I'm so relieved that it's not.
That's one of the better ones.
That you can get at a restaurant.
It's in that mold, but it's the good one.
Yeah.
Why is it orange?
That's my one question. The branding. Why is that orange? Why is it orange? That's my one question. The branding.
Why is that orange? Why is it orange? That's not a refreshing
color to me. That's my only question.
It's not a criticism of the water. It's Tuscan.
We should ask Zach Toscani. I'm sure he knows the answer.
It's just Italy. They do
things different over there.
Italy shits.
Italy shits.
They spilled a la vodka sauce on
them.
Just vodka sauce on just vodka sauce I guess I gotta speak my truth as we are wrapping this up
I don't mind a Perrier
I don't mind a San Pellegrino
they need you
they're on the shelves for a reason
people are drinking them
I think they're for people who can't handle
the real deal.
I like the little green can.
If a place has the little green cans,
I just like the whole experience.
It's not offensive.
I like the experience.
They have a premium
Maison Perrier
that they're rolling out now.
Yes, which to me
is a sign of trouble. The Perrier that they're rolling out now. Oh, it's Maison Perrier. Yes. Which to me is a sign of trouble.
That Perrier has to be like, oh, now this is, but this is the fancy one.
You know?
They feel the teeming hordes at their gates.
Something they never thought they would have to deal with.
Yes.
The slim, tall can is an error to me.
I disagree.
I know it's become popular.
I like them.
It's arrogant.
I'll say it. It's changing the way you stock your fridge. Drinking it's become popular. I like them. It's arrogant. I'll say it.
It's changing the way
you stock your fridge.
Drinking a seltzer.
Are they have little
something in them too?
Those San Pellegrinos?
Would I be cheating on those as well?
Like the blood orange ones
that like that guys have.
Oh, for sure.
Some of the ones
with the foil on top,
like that's more soda
than soda.
Yeah, that's like sugar water.
That's a sugar rich environment.
They have flavored Pellegrinos that are seltzers.
A full meal in those ones.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Do the recap here.
Hayes, you went first.
You took Polar.
Nixie.
Not Hop Water.
Hop Tea, as there was a trade.
Hop Lark.
Hop Lark.
Hop Lark Mosaic.
Sparkling Water, yeah.
Hop Lark Mosaic.
Ouroborra.
And Sanzo.
Sean Jordan, you went second. You waterloo good and gather spin drift liquid death and that good old kirkland water baby not bad
you guys drafted the fucking sacramento kings oh my god he's just happy to be in the playoffs
he's just happy to get there i made it out got mike brown Brown extended. You know what? Light the beam, baby.
I went third.
I took Topo Chico, LaCroix, Bubbly, Minner Agua, and Mountain Valley.
And I will be pouring some of that Mountain Valley into that Bubbly.
That's a nice squad.
That's a nice squad.
That's a good set.
It's not bad.
They'll go out there.
You know, they're going to win you some games.
Sean, you took Canada Dry Club Soda, Boilin' Sparkling Water, you got
yourself Hop Water,
365 Seltzer, and Gerolsteiner.
I can't say
we left a ton of stuff on the board.
No, we didn't. We scraped the barrel a little bit.
We discussed the affirmation, the big dogs, the Perrier's,
and the whatnot.
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