All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg - All-In x Kill Tony: A Hilarious Holiday Special

Episode Date: December 24, 2025

(0:00) Intro! (2:47) Tony Hinchcliffe roasts the Besties (15:01) Interview: Kill Tony success, MSG rally, origin story, free speech in Europe (36:03) The Besties play Kill Tony! (50:14) The 2025 Besti...e Awards: Business, Politics, Tech, and more Thanks to our partners for making this happen! IREN: https://iren.com OKX: https://okx.com Google Cloud: https://cloud.google.com Follow Tony: https://www.youtube.com/@killtony https://x.com/TonyHinchcliffe Follow the besties:  https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Honestly, I think this is like the most fun Christmas party we've had. Ever. Ever. And probably the most fun event we've ever had is because of Tony here. Please welcome the one, the only Tony Inge Queen. What the fuck's up, you goddamn nerd? Tony, any chance we could play Kill Tony tonight? You guys want to play Kill Tony here?
Starting point is 00:00:26 So you guys prepared for this? Do you know how it works? We know how it works. I don't know if we're prepared. I wasn't expecting to have to do this tonight, but I think I just found a new golden ticket winner. Ladies and gentlemen, please give it up for your besties. Well, welcome everybody to the second annual. This is going to be an incredible lineup. We've got so many great moments for you tonight. Unfortunately, Chamoth couldn't make it tonight.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I know, I know, it's hard, it's hard, but we have a pretty great replacement that you're going to love. And, yeah, Freiburg, tell him what's coming. Hold on, let me get my script. Wow, so professional. Do the sponsor shout-out. Oh, yeah, let me do the sponsor shout-outs so you don't do it and we lose them.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I would like to thank Google Cloud for their incredible servers. Yes, thank you, Google Cloud. Circle for stable coins, OKX. Thanks for all the love, GROC, Sonic Flights. Iran has got an incredible lounge. Thanks again for all of our sponsors. Give them a big round of applause. We're going to have a great night.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Man, the casino, everything is here. Tonight we are going to have the legendary Bestie Awards. We have some roasting, and we are all going to play Kill Tony. What? We're gonna play Kill Tony? We are gonna play Kill Tony. Oh, thanks for letting me know. How many here are big fans of Kill Tony?
Starting point is 00:02:44 Oh, that's incredible. Well, then, let's just bring out the one. Chmott's replacement. Chimots, permanent replacement on the program. The three of us voted him off the island. Please welcome the one, the only, Tony Hinchcliff. Look at that. Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. What the fuck's up, you goddamn nerds? How about a hand for the All-In podcast, Christmas party? We're here in San Francisco. Make some noise. Do you guys live here in San Francisco? What a shithole.
Starting point is 00:03:43 It's actually worse than a shithole. You could actually use a shithole here to put the shit into that's on the streets a shithole would be an actual upgrade. It used to be so beautiful here. You guys remember? Remember the intro to full house? That house is still full
Starting point is 00:04:07 because 23 Somalians live in it now. Put your phones away, you assholes. You can watch this on video form later, you fucking dorks. Everybody wants their own exclusive. I'm gonna make it tonight. I'm gonna have a, my YouTube channel is gonna get extra hits. California, more homeless people than any other state.
Starting point is 00:04:35 People are struggling, and you assholes paid 500 bucks to watch billionaires talk to each other. God bless America. Look, billionaires don't have it easy. Do you have any idea how hard it is for a billionaire to pretend like they like their kids? kids.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I had to research these guys and it was the most exhausting thing I've ever done. Absolute dorks. But then I watched Mountain Head on the plane and then Big Bang Theory and Succession and then broke back Mountain.
Starting point is 00:05:19 And I think I figured it out. As many of you know, these gentlemen started the all-end podcast at the beginning of the COVID pandemic. It saw massive success very quickly, which makes sense. People were isolated and looking for relatable content and what's more relatable than four venture capitalists playing high-stakes poker.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Their combined net worth of the four hosts is over $3 billion. You guys realize you don't have to do a podcast, right? Jake out does. Whenever anyone is asked what they would do if they had a billion dollars. I've never heard the answer, attend weekly Zoom calls. I do love the current landscape of podcasts, though. How is my show even considered on the same playing field as what you guys do?
Starting point is 00:06:20 It's crazy, right? You can listen to four experts educated on economics and technology, and within seconds, you can switch over to my show and listen to an Elon Musk impersonator roasting an aspiring comedian with cerebral palsy. These guys are all actual things. friends with Elon Musk. They told me that. Backstage.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And then they told me their names. Our friend Elon, of course, got some criticism from the left at the beginning of this year when he was accused of doing a Nazi salute. He said he didn't do a Nazi salute, but that it was a Roman salute. He could have just said it was an awkward wave, and people would have accepted that.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I don't know if Roman salute is the best alternative. He went with, behind the Nazis the group who has killed the most Jews, including Jesus himself. That's like being accused of visiting Epstein's Island and having an alibi that you were touring Thailand with Bill Gates. Yeah. Can you guys tell Elon to use his rockets
Starting point is 00:07:29 for something positive, like immigration? Do you have any idea how fast you can get illegal immigrants back to where they came from on a fucking rocket? I looked into this. It's 26 seconds from here to Tijuana, Mexico. It's simple.
Starting point is 00:07:46 You take the rocket, you fill it with illegal immigrants. You blast that bitch up in the air, right? You let Elon do his fancy little parallel parking thing that he likes to do. You empty the illegal immigrants, you fill it with avocados. Yes. No tariffs on these avocados.
Starting point is 00:08:04 These are the ideas. There are some critics on the left that say the hosts of all lynn, are all too conservative, calling it an echo chamber. An echo chamber is also how Marjorie Taylor Green's ex-husband refers to her pussy. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:08:23 We may have to edit that one out. Immigrant jokes are okay, but big pussy jokes aren't? What kind of party are you running here? But seriously, it is an honor to be here at the Christmas party. Remember, everyone, Santa is watching to see who's naughty or night. and you don't want to end up on his naughty list.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Then again, that would be the second worst list J-Cal ended up on. J-Cal. His net worth is $60 million. So on this podcast, he's known as the broke-ass bitch. He was an early investor in Uber, and out of everyone up here, he's the closest one to having to be one of the drivers. He refers to himself as the greatest podcast moderator in the world.
Starting point is 00:09:25 The people cheering are the people that have not seen my show. If you get to call yourself the greatest podcast moderator in the world, then I get to say that I'm a virtue signaling angel investor liberal cuck. That's what you are. I get it. I get the joke. Fun fact, Candice Owens, thinks that the leader of France's wife
Starting point is 00:09:48 has a bigger dick than J-Cal. His angel list flex is the startup equivalent of that guy who won't stop talking about his high school football championship. Oh, okay, lost down the angel investor joke. All right, that's surprising. Puerto Rico, very good, sir. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:10:11 We're trying to forget about that. J-Cal and I don't have much in common. I'm a centrist, slightly right-leaning person, and he's a full-on liberal. The only thing we have in common is that liberals don't like us. Chmoth couldn't make it, which is completely disappointing, and I'm still, if it's all right with you guys, I'm going to do my Chimath jokes.
Starting point is 00:10:35 They might do a couple extra ones that I thought were too mean, now that he's not here. I had to show up for this thing. He works hard. $1.5 billion. He works hard 24-7-11. He bought into the Golden State Warriors because he heard they had curry over there. These nerds like sports jokes more than angel investor jokes.
Starting point is 00:11:15 This doesn't even make any sense. He's got Vindalute? Indian food jokes, anyone? He's got a lot of bread. It's a non-issue. Okay. There you go. He's the best poker player out of the bunch.
Starting point is 00:11:29 He has the most patience because he looks like a doctor. somebody told me that Chimath has a very hot wife I wonder what she sees in him perhaps the hairy feet all right oky dokey Shamatha at one point was a senior executive at Facebook where he spearheaded several projects
Starting point is 00:11:57 like Facebook phone Facebook home and Facebook beacon if none of those ring a bell it's because they were all completely scrapped by Facebook Hell of a resume. Chimoth, did you also pitch the logo ideas to Cracker Barrel? How about a hand for David Sacks?
Starting point is 00:12:15 Ladies and John. Let me just say, I am a huge fan of yours. I just think you're truly so cool for a genius like you to take a break from wildly successful businesses to be a patriot
Starting point is 00:12:30 and share your brilliant mind for the better of our great nation is unbelievable. Agreed. David Friedberg is here. It didn't get the lap I expected. That was supposed to be funny that I just was nice to David Sachs and then moved on.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Oh, and to Sachs, the Crypto-Zar, Michael Saylor asked me to say hello. And if you can do anything, anything at all, that would be great. I don't really know what he's talking about, but the truly admirable feat. I'm excited to watch J-Cal following your footsteps in 20-28, is AOC's special advisor
Starting point is 00:13:09 for plugging your own shit on air. David Friedberg. He has a segment on the show called Science Corner. Or his sax calls it, or his sax calls it, time to go. I didn't think it was possible
Starting point is 00:13:29 to be the third wheel on a podcast with four guys. Nice. Nice. Oh my God. Cracking yourself up. David and David, I would like to personally thank you for both elevating the representation of African Americans among the billionaire class.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You know, they say we have wealth inequality in this country. Well, it turns out we fixed it. We just outsourced it to better Africans. Yeah, that's America. That's America, baby. You see a kid from Johannesburg with a laptop and he's a billionaire in 10 years. you see a brother from the south side with a laptop
Starting point is 00:14:10 and he stole your laptop. It's true. The only black male on the podcast is whatever the Israeli government has on these guys. Black male. All right. But seriously, to the All-in squad, thanks for all you do to promote healthy discourse and share perspectives across culture, tech, and politics.
Starting point is 00:14:37 What you all have built is special and transcends partisanship. I'm honored to be here tonight and I'm very proud to now call each of you, my friends. Also, can I borrow some money? Thank you very much. Awesome. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Oh, my God. Man, that was easier than I thought. Wow. Yo, that was fun. Tell me a little bit about the just unbelievable 12-year overnight success that is Kill Tony. Yeah, it's a, I just built the show that I wanted to do. I always was very lucky early on at the comedy store
Starting point is 00:15:20 to get to host the open mics there, which are three-minute-long sets on Sundays and Mondays with 40 comedians in a row doing three minutes, three minutes, three minutes, three minutes. And I would go up after each comedian did three minutes and make fun of them. And every once in a while afterwards, go up to them personally and say, hey, you know, if you took a breath sometimes or, you know, used pauses or sped up or got the mic close to your mouth. Little advice here and there.
Starting point is 00:15:51 And me and my friends would always have so much fun sitting in the back of the room watching these open mics and the things that we would whisper into each other's ears. I thought we're so funny. We'd be in the back of the room. Sometimes we'd be the only people laughing at the open mic because of what we're saying to each other. And I thought to myself during this time in which everyone was saying,
Starting point is 00:16:11 Tony, you have to do a podcast, you've got to do a podcast. you've got to do a podcast. Everyone has a podcast. It was completely unheard of at the time. But I thought, why not show how crazy an open mic can be and the ideas that me and whatever comedian buddies were sitting next to me, if we shared what we were laughing about with the people, I think it could be a hit. And even the co-host Red Band at the time goes,
Starting point is 00:16:38 wait, who the fuck is going to want to watch an open mic? and I kind of thought everybody would. So now, yeah, it turns out. It worked out pretty well. Yeah. It's pretty amazing when I moved to Austin two years ago, and the first thing people say when they land in Austin is, have you been to kill Tony?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Can you get me tickets to kill Tony? And you were so nice. You gave me your phone number. You said, anytime you want, you come in, and then I texted you and you ghosted me. Really? Did that really happen? No, I just wanted to see if the joke would have happened. It would have happened if you did text me, that's why.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I deleted your number, but yeah. No, I didn't. But it is a phenomenon. The show is selling out, I don't know, how many weeks you put out at a time. But my office is over there by Dirty Sixth Street, and sometimes I'll walk and get a coffee, and there's two, three hundred people lined up on the street. They just go to Joe Rogan's mothership,
Starting point is 00:17:39 just to see where it happens. What's it like in terms of the number of tickets? And then this incredible scale, you've now sold out MSG how many times? Yeah, three Kiltonys and once just for my stand-up. The stand-up show and the most recent Kiltony was all after my famous MSG performance. Oh, yeah, you spoke at the Nuremberg Valley.
Starting point is 00:18:04 So that was even more special because it was already my favorite arena. In fact, the only reason I really did that event was because I was just excited to feel the magic of Madison Square Garden again. Had it been at, you know, what's the one in Jersey or whatever? Brendan Byrne? No, the different arena. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:18:27 It's in Jersey, it doesn't matter. Yeah, my point is, had it even been anywhere else, I don't even know if I would have done it. But the magic of MSG mixed with the opportunity to perhaps, perhaps, you know, get a few people, maybe younger people or whoever that were on the fence to vote what I thought was the right way. Can I ask, how did that whole MSG thing come about for the Trump campaign? Because I remember when they asked me to help, and I just threw a dinner.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And when you did it, you know, delivered a killer set that almost like burned the campaign down. Fake news. 20% Puerto Rican increase in the state of Pennsylvania, an uptick, because they have an unbelievable sense of humor. Puerto Ricans do. You know, when you do this every night and all the time, you get a really good feel for what you can and can't get away with. What exactly, where is the actual line?
Starting point is 00:19:29 And I think, and I think in retrospect, a lot of people think that the mainstream media trying to make it appear like a comedian, I don't think any of these journalists did their research. With a simple Google, you see that I have the most diverse comedy show in the world, and that I push
Starting point is 00:19:51 the limits on whether it be the Tom Brady roast or the Snoop Dog roast and all the roasts that I've written on like the last 13 Comedy Central roast. That's equal opportunity, basically. With a simple Google of my name, you can find out that I was just doing what I
Starting point is 00:20:07 did, and I think they weren't gambling on the fact because I'm not mainstream, right? I'm not Jimmy Fallon or any of these darlings of theirs. I think that they thought that it was going to make everything look bad. But meanwhile, I think anybody with a sense of humor at all saw it and goes, I think this is the party with a sense of humor. Yes. Meanwhile, they have, the other side had Glorilla shaking her ass,
Starting point is 00:20:34 and like everyone's pretending like that's cool, but that's not cool. And Tony, can we go back to your point? Because I thought what was so interesting was your story getting here, because there's a lot of entrepreneurs, people that have built businesses in this room. One of the defining characteristics of building a business is you have to have grit because nothing goes as planned if you're doing something for the first time.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And you get your ass kicked. And if you can deal with that, you can deal with it again and you can eventually get somewhere. You started out in L.A. Can you just talk about not just the idea, but then what the process was like going from the idea to having yourself on stage with the future president at Madison Square Garden,
Starting point is 00:21:19 what was that experience like? And how hard was that iteration that build and the struggle to get to where you got to? Oh, it was insane. I actually just mentioned this. I was on Rogan this week with John Cena and it came up, but I had this moment a few weeks ago where I Venmoed a buddy
Starting point is 00:21:41 because I thought that I owed him rent from 18 and a half years ago. I was sleeping, I was renting the couch in a living room with four comedians total. I was one of them. One had a bedroom with a bathroom, another one had a bedroom with a bathroom, and me, and there was a little love seat,
Starting point is 00:22:05 A guy was renting the love seat, and I had to pay $400 a month rent. And I literally, even though I was working all the hours from literally 11 a.m. on the phones to 7 p.m. at night, and then I would put on the Comedy Store t-shirt and work the door from 8 p.m. until 2.30 in the morning, and then do it again the next day. And because the Comedy store didn't have,
Starting point is 00:22:33 Comedy hadn't had its second huge boom yet, which was a few years away. They would cut your hours at the comedy store. They just wouldn't, not only would you not get overtime, you wouldn't even get the hours that you actually did work or really anything at all. I couldn't make the $400 a month rent. So anyway, a few weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:22:53 I said to one of the other buddies that had a room, I go, hey, I think I owe, I still think I owe the main guy, a few hundred bucks rent. He goes, you do. He mentioned it last time I saw him. Wow. And so I went to Venmo and I just Venmoed him a thousand bucks straight up.
Starting point is 00:23:12 And in the caption, yeah, exactly. In the caption, I go, rent money, 2007. But Tony, was there a period during that time when you were going to quit? Or you said, it's not working? No, no, these were my favorite times. In fact, after that, after the 400 rent, which, by the way, because I couldn't make the 400 rent,
Starting point is 00:23:31 I got downgraded. Not only was there someone else on the love seat, someone else moved in that could afford the 400 rent. So I paid 300 rent for a beanbag on the ground. And let me remind you, the bathrooms were in the other guy's bedroom. So you had to tiptoe, if you had to pee in the middle of the night,
Starting point is 00:23:48 threw somebody else's bedroom. So it was after that, actually. After basically the first year was that, I decided to just start sleeping in the backseat of my car behind the comedy store, where you weren't even allowed to park there. It's a tiny parking lot. So I would be up on one of the hills in the Hollywood Hills,
Starting point is 00:24:06 and after at 2.30 or 3 a.m. when you're done, I would walk up a hill and get my car and drive it back into the empty comedy store parking lot, pull into the back. Juan Carlos, the maintenance man there that would show up at like 4 or 5 a.m. was nice enough to wait a few hours to try to let me get a few extra hours of sleep before he would start nailing shit and fixing everything. And it's literally the times now that I have a touch of success.
Starting point is 00:24:36 It's the times that I think about all the time now. Every single time I find myself looking at the skyline of Austin from my beautiful fucking home with a crazy outdoor terrace and everything the way that I want it, I think about those times. The struggle. All the time. Was there a moment where you said, I made it?
Starting point is 00:24:59 Yeah. I mean, it happens quite a bit. The I-made-it thing happens a lot. Every MSG, and even, I mean, again, you know, to go back to it, the Trump thing at MSG being global news was so insane that not only did I make it, I feel every time like I'm kind of making it again, you know, because it just seemed at the time,
Starting point is 00:25:26 there was a couple weeks there where it's literally, you know, tens of thousands or hundreds of, thousands of people saying or thinking that that could be it, that it's all over. What's the best city for comedy right now? Is it Austin? Is it still LA? What do you... There's no question about it. It's Austin, Texas. Absolutely. Honestly, you guys are making it sound really fun. You got you're there, J-Cow's there, Rogan's there, who else is there?
Starting point is 00:25:53 Elon, Tim Ferriss. Thanks, let's go shopping. Shane Gillis. Shane Gillis. All of his entire crew is there. Matt McCusker. Tom Segura, Christina Pee. We came and saw you a few months ago when we did that event in Austin.
Starting point is 00:26:06 What was that? March or something? March, right? It was incredible. I mean, the crowd. Yeah, so we got hooked up with your guy, got us some tickets, and I was with some buddies, and they said, let's go see Kill Tony. We got in touch with your guy, got into the show. And I think I had forgotten what stand-up comedy was supposed to be like from like the late 90s, early 2000s, even into the 2010s.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Because over the last couple of years, we've talked a lot about guys getting their heads chopped off when they said, something wrong, Chappelle, and everyone got so guarded in comedy. And I went to your show, and I was like, what the fuck? Oh, my God. This was tame tonight, but like what went on on your stage? And then you did a bit where you really tried to push the limits. It was a really interesting show to watch, because this was like, we were sitting next to each other, and we were like, oh my God, he's really trying to see how far he could go. And there were moments where it was like, everyone was just like, oh, wow. But it was so different. And you've
Starting point is 00:26:58 You've really given everyone permission to find the limits, to find real humor, to find, you know, what's sort of been taken away. Without a doubt. And that's what we always did. Some, you know, some comedians, when they're trying to promote their specials or whatever, now from L.A. and New York will say things like, oh, Austin, so that they can get hits on their clip. You have to talk shit about Austin.
Starting point is 00:27:21 So it's been a thing the last couple years. And they go, you know, oh, they're just edge lords and this and that. and they're just pushing limits. And it's like, we were the comedy store guys in the middle of the lineup. When I go to New York, I can perform at any club there. When I go to L.A., I can perform at any club there. So we just live there.
Starting point is 00:27:42 It's an amazing place to live. It's an amazing place to go out and drink and eat and listen to music and hang out with cool people. Now your guys are going mainstream. You're one guy's on SNL now. Cam, Patterson. And so much is happening. But my point is we're doing the exact,
Starting point is 00:27:57 We're not like, let's go to Austin and get even crazier. We're the exact same people that were in the middle of the lineup at the comedy store. And it wouldn't have changed. We would still be in L.A. If California didn't completely mishandle the pandemic and let police take such a terrible hit during the George Floyd riots. That's why you moved? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:23 It's when we all decided to move. It was an absolute disaster. The pandemic hit. You guys saw how California. The pandemic, things got so bad at one point that when we were doing our show, which you weren't allowed to have a live audience, we were still doing Kill Tonys.
Starting point is 00:28:39 You want to talk about plowing through when times are rough. Everybody else's podcast during the pandemic skyrocketed like that. Us, the only show with a live audience was done. But we didn't stop. I had to improvise, so we had people send in from home a video of themselves doing a one-minute set, which was horrendous. I'm absolutely terrible.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Worse than doing roast jokes and killing and have one guy going, ooh, after each and every joke into a microphone attached to his cheek. But it was dead silence. Nothing was funny to us, by the way. We lacked fucking vitamin. D, we were used to having the instant gratification of a crowd every single week. So we're watching these horrific one-minute sets.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And then we would Zoom with the people. And by the way, don't even get me started on all the technical issues, playing a video, ending the video, starting the Zoom call with somebody that probably doesn't have the best Wi-Fi. No great comedian knows how to work a computer or this or that or anything anyway. So we were doing this. And then at one point, we were so excited because they allowed the fact that you could have tables outside of the comedy store six feet apart in the parking lot.
Starting point is 00:30:04 The parking lot was empty of cars. Social distancing. Oh, my God, the dumbest fucking era of humanity that's ever existed. I know this is San France, so you're like, oh, he's the devil, what's he talking about? I think we all agree now. Safety, you got tricked, bitch. Let me ask about Europe. Have you followed any what's going on in Europe with speech suppression and...
Starting point is 00:30:31 Oh, it's insane. It's insane. Oh, we talk about it in our green room all the time. Yeah, it's crazy. I get weekly updates. And do we worry about that? You know, we have this bill in California called SB 771, and I got to give a shout out to Gavin Newsom for vetoing it, all the things you want to say about Gavin, but he vetoed it, thank God.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And this was this hate speech bill that you can't say speech that's deemed hate by the administrative. in the government. But those bills are fine. And it made it all the way through in California, except Gavin vetoed it. But those sorts of bills are showing up that were in the EU and throughout Europe. I mean, do we worry about that here in this country?
Starting point is 00:31:06 Because I've always viewed comedy to be the most important test of free speech. And it really does define what we're being given permission to do. It's so interesting because I work directly and I'm insanely in touch. with these things on a weekly basis with YouTube, which is, I do believe, the biggest streaming platform right now. And what's insane is that Netflix and Ted Sarandos
Starting point is 00:31:38 literally is like do whatever you want, go as hard as you want, push it to the limit, let's go. And meanwhile, YouTube, every week, something's different. A black guy right now is only allowed to say the N-1, a black comedian can only say the N-word two or three times per minute, but they're not very clear. When you don't even notice
Starting point is 00:32:02 when these guys do it, by the way. It's obviously different than a white guy saying the N-word way. That's about Freiburg's average. Right, exactly. It's not even funny, Tony. Don't laugh at his joke. Thank you, Tony.
Starting point is 00:32:13 We're together. Oh, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, oh. But, but yes, the, the interesting thing is that you can say certain words on YouTube, but you can't say they have them ranked, and the rules change all the time.
Starting point is 00:32:33 And you don't find out that the rules that YouTube have changed until your producer goes, they just demonetize the episode. And it's been out for an hour and a half, which is when everybody's going to see the episode, or the age restriction is a killer. Yeah, we got hit with that restricted content. Almost everyone that watches the show is over 18.
Starting point is 00:32:58 However, who the hell wants to log in to their stuff? I mean, you dorks do, but real people don't want to. You know, they just like going to YouTube, typing in the show, and there it is. It aired an hour ago, here we go. And then if it says age restriction, just to check to see if you're 18, which, what a fucking joke, because every kid can also access anything anyway. We got age restricted. Yeah, we got restricted content.
Starting point is 00:33:25 COVID warnings. But I guess your point, Tony, is that there are gatekeepers that control the distribution channel, in this case, YouTube. Without a doubt, and I'll say this, again, you know, I don't want to keep getting political, but there was a time there towards the end of that last Biden administration in which we were seeing things go the wrong way, on wrong way, on almost a weekly basis.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Like, why did this one get demonetized? How did this one get demonetized? And you have to do a lot of digging because they are just robots over there until you finally get big enough to get a human contact at YouTube, which is like a big deal for... It was definitely going the wrong way,
Starting point is 00:34:10 and it felt like every week there's some new category of thought and expression that you couldn't say, and they were banning new things. And then, frankly, Elon bought Twitter, and that was the first event that shifted the momentum. Oh, there's no doubt.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And now the EU's coming after him, they find him 120 million euro yesterday. It's like Europe never got the memo. Yeah. It's over. Will you guys tour in Europe, or is it like not worth it? We did.
Starting point is 00:34:36 We just did in June, and we, unless they basically give us Buckingham Palace, we'll probably never go there again. It was the worst kill Tony in the history of our existence. Why? The comedians were just terrible. We've done quite a few in England and Ireland and stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Just the comedians were terrible. The vibes there are rough. There's just this never-ending gloom in London. Yes. The food is beyond all. They used to be funny though over there, right? We were going to, I'm sorry. We were going to the locals.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Like, please, anything. Where can we get a steak? Where can they overcook us a steak? Oh, it was fucking crazy, man. And I mean, everything, it became a running joke because we got there a few days early to settle in and kind of, you know, ease into it. So that's, you know, three meals a day.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Even if it's just three days, that's nine terrible meals in a row. Right. And you're coming from Austin, where we have the best food in the country. In Austin, it's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:35:49 We have hundreds of restaurants better than anything we tried of the fanciest crap in London. And they open seven new ones a week. I mean, it does say something about society when comedy is appreciated more in the Middle East than it is in London. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:05 No, it really was. Hey, Tony, any chance we could play Kill Tony tonight? You guys want to play Kill Tony here? All right. Is it true? Did you guys prepare something? Oh, whoa. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Well, please. This is Callie, our elegant elf. Callie, the elegant elf. You guys have your own Heidi. That's amazing. Yeah, she's here. That's a San Francisco, Heidi. So she has a penis? Asking for a friend. San Francisco, Heidi. There's got to be a surprise underneath that's great.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Oh, boy, here we got. This place is ridiculous, by the way. You guys all better be wildly successful for living here. I walked outside of my hotel earlier There was literally two dudes banging against a tree I looked the other way and there's a guy taking a shit on the sidewalk
Starting point is 00:37:01 and a lady walks up to me and tells me to put up my cigarette What is going on with San Francisco? Crazy. Kind of nuts. So you guys prepared for this? Do you know how it works? You get 60... We know how it works. I don't know if we're prepared. You get 60 seconds uninterrupted.
Starting point is 00:37:18 You know that your time is up and you're the sound of a kitten. Wow, you really got it. Then you have to wrap it up then, or else you bring out the Angry West Hollywood Bear. Okay. You guys want to do this? All right, this is All-in' Kill Tony, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:37:38 All right, going up first. Make some noise for Jason, everybody. Oh, my Lord. Wow. All right, all right. Well, many of you know, I moved to Austin and I got a ranch, and I also lost 40 pounds, so now it's a fat-free ranch. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah, I would have fat-shaming. But I'm a little nervous about doing a minute up here. I don't know how I'm going to get through a minute without interrupting sacks. Tony, I'm a huge fan. I'm a big fan of yourself, Joe Rogan, Redband. Headband. People say I name drop a lot, but I just got a text from Elon. He says that's not true. It's not true. It's great to be, thank you. It's great to be here with three of my besties and a new one. We're missing Chimoth. Now, some people say Chimoth is a douche. I don't agree. I don't agree
Starting point is 00:38:41 because women get something out of putting a douche inside of them. Oh, I thought that one would land. Sacks, my Jewish friend here, is the... Oh, God. Okay, I don't know if I should say this one. Go for it. Okay, I'll do it. Go for it. Go for it.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Okay. Sacks is the only Jewish guy who built an app to remind his friends to pay him back. All right, that's my time, everybody. Thank you. Jason, everybody. Wow. You don't want to do the interview portion?
Starting point is 00:39:22 You got to do the interview. You got to stay up there. Oh, I'm supposed to stay up. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Stay standing. It's not that easy. What do you do for a living? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:29 I've got a podcast or two. So did you, how hard did you prepare for this? I guess 2,500 podcast episodes later. Yeah. I love it. I love it. Now, when you were writing this material,
Starting point is 00:39:46 were you planning on doing the joke and then turning and seeing, and seeing if we were laughing each time. That could have been a tactical mistake. You're supposed to engage with the audience and stay focused on them. Yeah, okay. What do you do for a living?
Starting point is 00:40:02 Oh, product manager at Google? Sorry about the layoffs. I don't even know what kind of tech jokes, you guys. I don't even know what kind of inside baseball nerd shit is going on here. I feel like I walked into a Magic the Gathering convention. Is stand-up something that you've ever wanted to do? Or is this just spontaneous for you?
Starting point is 00:40:28 Just spontaneous. He's more of a magician. No, that's not true. Do you have magic tricks? I have no magic tricks. Do you have any other special skills? I can get three narcissistic Asperger's venture capitalists to show up every Thursday and tape a podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:43 That's my only trick. That's amazing. Good answer. They appreciate it. You know what, Jason? I think you did just fucking good enough. Come on back and sit down. Let's keep it moving.
Starting point is 00:40:57 You guys having fun out there? Yeah. All right. Well, this is my fucking guy, ladies and gentlemen. As you know, I love them. You love them. Make some goddamn noise
Starting point is 00:41:10 for the one and only David Sachs. All right. Tony, thank you so much for being here. I loved your roast of Puerto Rico. You went so hard. after a Latino island. I'm shocked President Trump didn't appoint you, Secretary of War.
Starting point is 00:41:34 J-Cal, I've been following your feed this week. I really appreciate your support for all in tequila. I know you love it because you finally get to take a shot that's not Ozzympic. It was only a matter of time before J-Cal got in the beverage business because I've never met anyone more thirsty than J-Cal. He spent his entire life dreaming of the day
Starting point is 00:42:01 he would see his name mentioned alongside the world's most influential people. Congratulations, Jason. You finally did it. You're in Epstein's Black Book. I knew the Epstein files were a hoax as soon as I saw that J-Cal was in them. Who didn't want to blackmail a loser?
Starting point is 00:42:19 All right, let's talk about Chamath. Chamath is a prime example of why unlimited immigration is not in America's interest. Chamath is from Sri Lanka. Tony's description of Puerto Rico didn't offend him and made him homesick. Do I have time?
Starting point is 00:42:41 Can I keep going? All right. Chamath has angered so many investors. Spack now stands for seriously pissed at Chamath. And Freiburg, our Sultan of Science, what can I say about Freeberg that hasn't already been said
Starting point is 00:42:58 about watching paint dry? Freeberg lives life as a vegan, and that's exactly what it feels like to hang out with him. You know there are more satisfying options on the menu, but you made a decision, and now you're stuck with it. You've all tried those tasteless beyond burgers.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Well, Freeburgers are beyond friend. All right, thank you, everyone. David Sachs, ladies and gentlemen. Unbelievable. Oh, okay, I got the interview part. You're good. You're good. I got to tell you, man, that was un-fucking believable.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I wasn't expecting to have to do this tonight, but I think I just found a new golden ticket winner. Have you ever done stuff on stage before in a non-business, like, sense? Well, we've done a couple of roasts among our friends at birthday parties before. We did a J-Cal roast. We did a Phil Helmuth roast. There's a lot of material in both of those cases. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:14 So we've done, you know, we've done some friend roasts. We did your 50th roast. Yeah, my 50th birthday, we actually did a big roast. These guys were all part of it. So we had a little bit of roast experience. Amazing. It shows Sacks. That was absolutely incredible.
Starting point is 00:44:29 How about one more time for David Sacks, everybody? Did he get his $15,000 in money worth and the comedians he hired or no? Is that how much he spent? Yeah, do you expense the comedians to all in or do you pay for him out of pocket? That was incredible. That was amazing.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Are we going to have Freedberg do his set? Who wants to hear of Friedberg? Let's do it. Tony, hype me up. Let's go. Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for your final comedian of the night. David Friedberg, everybody. So great to be in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:45:07 The streets are like Chamath. They're totally full of shit. Thanks for being here, Tony Hinchcliff. I love the show. I've worked in agriculture for years, so I'm used to working with genetically modified fruits. Tony Hinchcliff's actually a GMO. A gay man, obviously. Chimov couldn't be here tonight because he's feeding the hungry. Just kidding, that's below his line. Speaking of hungry, J-Cal, you're looking great, buddy.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Thank you. Now you only have to buy one seat on Epstein's plane. J-Kal, your weight goes up and down more than Chimov's back portfolio. In fact, you look so skinny now, I confused you for Chimot's legs. Chimov's legs are so thin, he wears socks, leggings and thermals. He covers up more than Sacks does for the Trump administration. Sacks, congrats in all the success, but the stress is clearly getting to you.
Starting point is 00:46:12 You look like someone microwave John Lovitz. All in is what Sacks says when he's cheering on an ice vehicle. Let me know us. We're all so different. I'm just the science guy. I study black holes while Chimoth invests in them. Here we are enjoying the holiday spirit together. I know that.
Starting point is 00:46:34 things I said tonight might be a little mean, but the world's already burning. Figured I might as well burn some bridges. All right. Brush vest. Free bird. Wow. Amazing. Have you ever done anything, again, non-business, like performative?
Starting point is 00:46:51 No. Historically? A play, nothing. A little play acting growing up, a little musicals, a little, yeah. Yeah, I know J-Cal is going to... A little summer stock. You know, oh, you know, here's a factoid no one knows. I actually starred in a play.
Starting point is 00:47:04 with Rashida Jones. You know, Rashida Jones, the actress from Parks and Rec? What was that play? We were in the same high school and we were in the drama stuff together. What was the play that you guys did together? Inherit the wind.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Oh, wow. A little before my time or something. Sax would be familiar, right? I love it. And when you're writing jokes like this, like what was your process? Where did you find yourself coming up with your funniest stuff?
Starting point is 00:47:30 Did you sit down at a desk? I just like to shoot the shoo. shit on the computer and then edit it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like putting on music. We were playing some music, and then I just... I kind of did them... We did this for saxes, and I went a little burnt earth, scorched earth, for his
Starting point is 00:47:46 50th. Do you remember that? Yeah, I definitely remember that. Everybody remembers that. There's a lot of pent-up anger. Freeberg gave a set that... It was so bad. It wasn't bad. It was just mean. It was mean. It was... I forgot to do the punchlines. I just said the mean shit, and I didn't...
Starting point is 00:48:02 It was like retard strength. to roast. Like, it was so me, he didn't realize it and it stopped being funny. Let me ask you this, David. All grievances. Do you remember one of your favorite or one of the
Starting point is 00:48:16 bigger, one of the crazier jokes from the Sacks roast? I don't, no. I'll pull it up later. There's nothing? That was my 50th birthday, so it was like 20 years ago. Hey, oh. That little self-deprecating. That's amazing, but you didn't film that or anything?
Starting point is 00:48:32 I don't know, do we have a copy of that? We might have a copy of that one, yeah. No, that would be bad news. That's what Epstein would do. We did some amazing birthday party roast. J-Cal had one, I had one. Like we mentioned, Phil Helmut. But we never recorded them, which was,
Starting point is 00:48:47 we were kind of afraid to record. We were very afraid of being weird. We were afraid of getting canceled. That is correct. Yeah, but now we're uncancelable. I love that. Perfect. You don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Yeah. Friedberg, did that go how it felt like it was going to go for you? Is there more or less, What was different? People that haven't tried comedy or written something. My cadence is a little off. I got to, you know, go one or two more rounds, and I think I can get the cadence down. I liked it. I think, you know, I had some other material I pulled out. I would like to try that at some point. I thought there was some A-plus material in there. A-plus. Yeah. It was great. David Friedberg, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:49:26 You guys are good. All right. Respectable. That's what we wanted to do. Hey, you know, we have a tradition. We give some Bestie Awards. These are the best of the year. And maybe our elegant elf, Callie, can come out and present us with the fifth annual Bestie Awards. Here it is. As you can see, it's two very heterosexual men embracing. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:49:52 San Francisco. Kelly. Callie. Oh, hey now. All right, first up, keep her on. What do you say? Keep her on. Take it easy.
Starting point is 00:50:13 She's between the two of you. All right, so first up on the Bestie Awards is our biggest business winner. Our biggest business winner. Who did you have for biggest business winner, O Sultan of Science, David Freeper? Okay, alphabet went from... Look into how crazy the year was for Alphabet. From 2 trillion market cap to 4 trillion market cap this year, that's 170 billion gain, 10 billion market cap gain every day.
Starting point is 00:50:44 They added 10 billion of value every day for the entire year. The pivot in AI, risk-taking, clouds growing 40%. YouTube's the number one media company in the world. It's all under one roof. I think they just crushed it, all cylinders. Business of the year. Amazing. Sacks, who did you have as your biggest business winner?
Starting point is 00:51:04 I said construction workers related to the data center boom. They're seeing their wages go up 25 to 30%. We're talking about plumbers, electricians, drywall hangers, concrete pores. It's not just tech companies. We're seeing a larger boom throughout the country because of AI. Didn't Jemov say there's like electricians that make 500 grand a year or something? No one of master electricians? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Unbelievable. Pretty incredible. And a great White House talking point for the midterms. I too had Alphabet and Google. We were sitting here a year ago. Everybody thought they would absolutely get killed by chat GPT, and now we're having a discussion. Hey, chat GPT is probably going to get killed by Google.
Starting point is 00:51:46 So, oh, it's a lot of cloud, right? Is that who that is? Yeah. All right. Just out of curiosity. Yes, Tony. Because I don't know how any of this works. What happened to chat GPT,
Starting point is 00:52:00 or what did Alphabet do this year to surprise you guys? Other than the results, like how did they get them? What did they do? Do you know? Well, they put AI into search. So now when you go to search, there's like an AI interface that pops up. And so that's how they drove people to their AI product because they've got the biggest consumer product in the world, Google.com.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And then they had a good product. And so they put the two together and suddenly they're crushing chat GPT. Yeah. Sometimes the first company up the hill takes the arrows, Netscape the browser eventually wound up losing. But I think they were also underestimated, and they probably were very conservative in how they released products.
Starting point is 00:52:40 And then they kind of got permission when Sergei came back to work full-time at Google, the founder, they kind of took more chances, and yeah, the search franchise grew this year. Everybody thought it would go down, it grew. My big business winner is the show Kill Tony. I don't know if you guys have heard about it for that.
Starting point is 00:52:59 a four special deal on Netflix, which is unprecedented by any show. And also we ranked number two at the end of the year on YouTube, only behind my very best friend Joe Rogan. So that's pretty crazy. Wow, that is incredible. Number two podcast on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:53:16 YouTube's the number one podcast platform. Pretty incredible. But by the way, Tony, can I tell you something? I didn't tell you this before. When I came and saw your show in Austin, I hadn't seen a Kill Tony show before. So someone I was with said you should go check this out, and that's how we ended up going.
Starting point is 00:53:30 And then I came back and I'm like, I should watch Kill Tony. I would say I've watched maybe 100 episodes since I've come back. It's so big, and it's timeless, the content. And so every night when I'm like ready for bed, I'll put on YouTube and I'll watch a Kill Tony episode. I love that night.
Starting point is 00:53:45 It is literally like my go-to media now. The live is the gateway. I highly recommend checking one out live because you can feel, while it's funny to watch online, when it's live, you can feel, the opportunity of failure that they have. You're like, they're right there. Anything can happen.
Starting point is 00:54:05 This could go terribly wrong. It feels dangerous. It feels like... And then it's so great. It's almost like waiting for the big game moment to happen. Like you're waiting for that big champion to show up. Like that guy you had a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, Dedrick Flynn.
Starting point is 00:54:19 That guy was insane. It's amazing. In just four weeks, he was made a regular randomly, pulled him out of the bucket, saw him. The interview, so likable. skip golden ticket and made him the first appointed regular that we maybe get one of those every two years. Cut to four weeks later, this past Monday, he literally did a rap about how rich he is already.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Like he did a whole rap performance about how he's made it. About how he's made it. Do you get a piece of it or does your agent just snipe these people? No. Well, I mean, actually, that's an interesting question because now they, the entire industry is watching Kill Tony to see what's actually next. I am the first, that bucket is the first
Starting point is 00:55:03 line of defense. Howie Mandel watches every episode and they get booked on America's Got Talent based on if they're unbelievable on Kill Tony. You should offer them a show on your channel. That would be the ultimate move. Remember like Johnny Carson used to be
Starting point is 00:55:19 the thing where a stand-up would go on Johnny Carson and if Johnny invited them to sit down then they had a career and you've kind of become the news. But he's kept it fair. What's crazy is that guy, Diedrich. Yeah, Dedrick.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Dedrick. He's so black, you can't even say his name. He's not. Is it Diedrich? Don't use that generic word that you use. Dedric. Don't do it. He put his name in the bucket for two years to get called.
Starting point is 00:55:46 So he moved to Austin. 39 weeks in a row, and he was just about to stop trying. And then he got pulled. And so unlike all these other guys where there's control systems in Hollywood, with agents and producers, and they're like, here's the guy that's going to be the winner.
Starting point is 00:56:00 These guys all have a democratic shot. They have an open shot at getting in that bucket and getting pulled, which is what I love about it. You never know what you're going to get. And it's like everyone has a shot, so it's not like this control thing. You know what you should do is if they agree to do it, you should say, just as a thank you,
Starting point is 00:56:14 we want the option for you to come do one Kill Tony special a year for the next two years. Like, not something crazy, but just... You should take business advice from J.K. Absolutely. Yeah, I built the number one podcast of the world. It's not just you. He gives me advice.
Starting point is 00:56:29 He gives the president advice. I gave the president great advice. He said even Jason has good advice. All right. Even J-Cow. Even J-Cow. Biggest business loser. Who's your biggest business loser, David Sachs?
Starting point is 00:56:43 Who's the biggest loser? I said universities. The margin of Americans who now believe that college is worth the cost has gone from plus 13 a decade ago to minus 30. minus 30. So no one believes that college is worth the cost anymore.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Amazing. Great, great poll. What do you think, Friedberg? Warner Brothers, Discovery. I think the fact that the M&A deal is being done at three times the value that this thing's been trading at for the last couple years
Starting point is 00:57:11 really shows how they undermanage the business. The content itself is worth so much more. They were never able to get value out of it, which speaks to what a terrible kind of management they've had there. Which company did you say? Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers.
Starting point is 00:57:24 That just got bought it. Yeah. You own the stock. didn't you and your thing? I cleared it. I was like, these guys are going sideways. So you missed the outcome? I did miss the outcome, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:33 It was a rare miss for me. I went with Apple. Wait, hold on a second. They didn't listen to your advice? I mean, the problem was I had all these other things that had won, and I had a bunch of gains, and I needed to sell my losers. He put all his stock trades on the internet, Tony. But then I called it J-trading, and it went up 5X and three years.
Starting point is 00:57:51 But he bought a whole bunch of Warner Brothers. He's like, this is the next big thing. I thought Disney and Warner Brothers would figure it out. Neither of them have. My biggest business loser was Apple. This company has unlimited distribution and unlimited capital, and the most impressive thing they've done in the last 10 years is a thin iPhone. What a missed opportunity.
Starting point is 00:58:11 And, yeah, I mean, maybe the best thing they've done recently is pluribus. I don't know if you guys are watching that, but... Oh, people like it, yeah. It's a pretty great show. Literally, if I'm thinking their streaming show is the best thing, they've got a problem. Who's the biggest loser in comedy? The biggest loser in comedy right now.
Starting point is 00:58:34 And, you know, I love the... Here's the thing, is that I... Or entertainment. Right. Well, you know, the biggest loser really are these giant movie studios which still are virtue signaling and afraid to take any chances whatsoever. The last movie with any edge...
Starting point is 00:58:55 at all in a theater, I think was The Hangover, which I think was 2006, 2005. And it made a billion dollars that franchise. Yeah, exactly. Are they coming to you asking you to do one? I would think that would be a very natural play, but there's no studio who would do it. So maybe like A24 or one of the smaller ones? We are working on something. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:59:16 Yeah. And it's going to be... You heard it here first. Definitely the answer to that. And it's all happening, and it's going to be... Well, they'll let you do it. you want. Yes. We went and got independent financing for it, my amazing team over at UTA.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Wonderful. What, what, anything that would be analogous or inspirational for you, are there films that informed this one? Are you a Tropic Thunder fan? Are you like easy money, Rodney Dangerfield from back in the day? What comedians in films did you love? I mean, without a doubt, and it's an odd pick because it's not the one everybody thinks that I'm going to say, but Kingpin with Woody Harrelson and Bill Murray.
Starting point is 01:00:06 I think is the best Farley Brothers film. I think it's the funniest thing Bill Murray's ever done. I think it's the funniest thing Woody Harrelson's ever done. And if you haven't watched it in the past few years, go back, watch it one more time. It's unbelievable. It seems like it's a movie about bowling, but it's not at all. It's just hysterical.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I had a bunch of seven and eight-year-olds over for my daughter's birthday party, and we did a film. So I said, oh, you guys should watch Bill Murray, and what about Bob? And this was like a loved film, PG. I thought, this would be fine. They're eight years old. And in the film, they use all these, you know, dick breath, idiot. You know, they just do this thing. And then I went to school the next day and three parents quarantined me here in the Bay Area.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Can we talk to you about your film selection? my daughter came home and she said, Dick Breath. And I was like, have you seen what about Bob? And the parent was like, no. I was like, you should watch it. It's incredible. Our daughters are never coming over your house again. Meanwhile, that same San Fran parents
Starting point is 01:01:06 probably like, do you know there wasn't a single trans character in that movie? And she said dick breath, but I think they should actually have dick breath because they should have dick breath because there's nothing that's off limits. Jason, we got two minutes. to get through six. Six.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Biggest political winner. Lightning round. Go. Okay. Biggest political winner is the Democratic Socialists of America. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Sadly. Biggest political winner? Well, this may be a talking point, but I'm going to say crypto. A year ago, there was a war on crypto. Okay. They were worried about going to jail.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Now we've passed legislation. We're getting a fair shake from the government. It's total change. Yeah, incredible. You know, I had your pick, Zoron, Mamdani, socialism.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I also had the America First movement that's burgeoning. But I gave it some thought, and I thought, my Lord, there's one individual who part-time went to the government and took crypto and made it legal and created a framework for it. They made sure that America would be absolutely competitive in the AI race, the most important race of our lifetime and, in fact, in humanity. So hands down, my biggest political winner of 2025 is Mr. David Sachs. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Political winner for you? You don't give a shit. What do you think? A political winner for me, you know, I mean, I really, again, I'm just a big fan of this president. People can say that I kiss an ass and that comedians shouldn't.
Starting point is 01:02:44 There's this thing that I've been hearing where people are like, you know, comedians should be punching up, not punching down. You're supposed to make fun of the big thing. Well, if nobody, if every, everybody is making fun of that one thing, then I think it's kind of funny to go the other way and to push it up.
Starting point is 01:03:01 So I literally have, in my stand-up set, pro-Trump jokes, which nobody's fucking doing. Which one lands the most? I make fun of his autograph. I say he has the most obnoxiously cool autograph in the world. It looks like Lizzo's heart rate. And he actually doesn't.
Starting point is 01:03:20 My biggest political loser sacks. Who's the biggest... By the way, he does have the best sense of humor. must be of any president we've ever had. He is just hysterical. Oh, I totally... Anyone who spent time with him is just blown away and just how funny he is.
Starting point is 01:03:35 All the best comedians talk about how he might be the funniest human being on planet Earth. This is a conversation I've had. I'm not going to name their names, but you can put it together in your head. I'm talking about the actual best comedians in the world.
Starting point is 01:03:52 All of them. Might believe. All of them. Yes. Michael Richards. Yeah. No, I'm kidding. You know who the best are, and yes, they all agree.
Starting point is 01:04:03 I mean, there's funny is funny. It's undeniable. Literally, God damn it, I'm blanking out, but this week he did something so fucking, oh, the Somali thing. Yeah. It's a hell hole. They come over here and they bitch and complain.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Like, it's just common sense, and that's the funniest stuff. I still love when Zoran visited him. He says, it's okay, I can say it. I'm a fucking trash. It's easier if you just tell them, okay. Okay, let's go. Come on.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Let's go. Biggest political loser, Sacks. My biggest political loser is Europe. It's a civilization that's in decline. They're losing economically, geopolitically, socially, culturally, and they can't seem to reverse that trend. It's very sad. Political loser, Freeberg, the founding fathers.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Wow. Wow. Because I feel like free speech, property seizure rights. We read this excerpt from these two Thomas Jefferson letters, and you can read a lot of these. Just ask Gemini to tell you about some of the things that the founding fathers wrote.
Starting point is 01:05:05 And if you spend time with them and translate them into modern English, because they do write in a very poetic, frilly way, there is so much of the principles and the founding fathers that are lost in how we are kind of devolving into this organizational system where the government is everything in our lives, everything in our country. the individual liberties are being taken from us. And I don't mean taken from us in a sense that they're being seized.
Starting point is 01:05:29 We're voting for a government that dictates our lives, that controls what we eat, how we eat, how we live, how we get paid, our checks. I think the majority of Americans today live on checks from the government, through the government, and I think that the founding fathers would have been really saddened at the state. I went with, well said, well said. I went with Stephen Miller. I felt his performative cruelty
Starting point is 01:05:52 was a distraction for the 47th administration. What? What? And that's a shame because I loved his band. Yeah. This is the biggest political loser? Yeah. Mine's Gavin Newsome. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I mean, the hair is great. Yeah. Great hair. That's enough for you liberals to be impressed by. Oh, he's got hair. Fucking amazing. Let's go with Breakthrough of the Year. What's your breakthrough of the year? What's your breakthrough of the year? Okay, we haven't talked about it on the show.
Starting point is 01:06:22 This definitely deserves a science corner. But asteroid Benu, NASA sent a probe. They pulled a bunch of samples up in 2020. They landed back on Earth, 2023. Two days ago, they showed that on asteroid Benu, there is nucleic acids. There are amino acids. There are sugars.
Starting point is 01:06:38 All of the building blocks of life were found on this asteroid floating through space. Wow. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Did the asteroid make it to Uranus? Freeberg, this is great, but you're putting the audience. I honestly think, just for a brief moment before we make the jokes, this is going to end up being one of the most, like, amazing discoveries of our lifetime,
Starting point is 01:06:59 because it really does show that life is not necessarily unique to planet Earth. This was an asteroid that's been floating around for four and a half billion years, and it's got all the components of life on it. It's pretty incredible discovery. It's amazing. And it was made out of sugar? It's got sugar on it. It's got glucose on it.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Freeberg, how many times have you masturbated to this asteroid so far? All right. Thank you. My breakthrough of the year is... Three or four? Humanoid robots, I think. We're just underestimating the progress these will have. Everybody's going to get their own C3PO slash Friedberg,
Starting point is 01:07:35 so we won't be the only ones with a robot in our lives. Sacks, what was your biggest breakthrough? I just said being able to use Starlink on commercial flights. I mean, you can actually use the Internet now. Hold on a second. I'm calling bullshit. You haven't been on a commercial flight. Since Clinton was in office.
Starting point is 01:07:52 That's true. I was doing it for you guys. Tell us honestly, when were you last? Last time you flew commercial. It was for you, J-Cal is for you. Thank you. Is it more than... I'm a man of the people.
Starting point is 01:08:03 I was thinking about you. Is it more than 10 years? More than 10 years since you've been on a commercial flight. I set the over-under-at 15 years for commercial flights. I haven't been on a commercial flight since 2012. 2012? I don't know. It's shameful.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I mean, what are you still like it? Jay-Cal, what's the Wi-Fi password on the Lolita Express? apparently it's one, two, three. Oh, sorry. Oh, is that too? Is that astray? Really? Sorry.
Starting point is 01:08:31 What are you doing? Come back. Okay, I just, we'll cut that. It's a joke people. By the way, why is it that all the liberal guests that you bring on the pod are like regular visitors to Little St. James? You're talking about what? All of your liberal buddies.
Starting point is 01:08:49 You bring on the pot. He did get some good dating advice, apparently. Oh, come on. CEO of the year not named Elon Musk. We all consensus have to pick Elon. Jensen Hwang. 33 years in the making, built a flywheel, had the vision, stuck through it, ups and downs.
Starting point is 01:09:13 For whatever people said, every generation of the last 33 years, he kept building. and this flywheel finally took off. And here's a crazy statistic. InVIDIA, 4.5 trillion market cap, that's up from 300 billion 36 months ago. So this is a company that in 36 months created $4.2 trillion of market value.
Starting point is 01:09:33 That's $100 billion every month for three years straight. It's incredible. I think it's insane with this second. Sacks, who is your CEO of the year, not named Elon Musk? Well, that was a great one, but I'm going to go with Alex Karp because if you heard him If you heard him speak at all in Summit, I think he brought down the house.
Starting point is 01:09:52 He out Tucker Tucker. I mean, so in addition to Palantir being a monster of the last year. I went with Navidia, Trump's favorite company, and Jensen Wang as well. Let me just say, again, even though this isn't my territory,
Starting point is 01:10:06 I want to give a shout-out to a couple badass motherfuckers. Nick Kahn and Paul Leveck over at the WWE have taken on this massive historical company while, you know, and put it on, have made so many huge deals with so many different networks to bring in so many big fans.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Are you at WWE or a UFC guy? I'm both. You're both. If you had to only go to one. In fact, since this is the only place that it would be interesting to ever mention, it was the only F, TKO is the only ever stock that I ever told my guy, my golf buddy,
Starting point is 01:10:41 who actually, after years of insisting, I should give them money to put in stocks, which I never believed in because I'm an Italian poor kid from Youngstown, Ohio. I believe before that just have cash in a shoebox is like the way to have money. But then I did, and the only one I ever recommended for him, I heard about this Navidia three years ago from my guy, whatever,
Starting point is 01:11:03 but the only one I ever told him about was TKO because I, Dana White knows how to put on a hell of a show. And I know that obviously the WWE is always amazing and always growing. So it's the only one I ever told him to get. We've seen, you know, whatever. And in my little world. Did you buy the Nvidia? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:20 You did? Wild, wild success. Yeah, so unlike Jake Al, you held this talk? Yeah. Yeah, great. I had some video. And, by the way, we had Paul Levick, Triple H speak at the All of the Summit.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Oh, nice. Yeah. He's a big wrestling fan. Oh, I love that. I was just with him. I hung out with them just last night. Smackdown was in Austin. All right.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Now, each host gets to pick. They're a disgratziad of the year. The most disgraceful moment, person, company, or trend. Disgracziad of the year. Disgratziad. He was the best guy around. What about the people he murdered? What murder?
Starting point is 01:12:02 You can act like a man. What's the matter with you? He's just killed a little f***ing manners. You insulted him a little bit? I'm smart and I want the sphinx. What's the world we do? Your hair was in the toilet water. Disgusting.
Starting point is 01:12:15 I had to suffocate you, your little bit. It's a fucking disgrace. Disgratziad. All right, disgratziad.com. Tony, whenever you're ready, you can give us yours, but Freiburg, who's your disgracad? The crackdown on speech in Europe. 3,000-plus arrests in the UK for malicious communication,
Starting point is 01:12:38 mostly fines, but also incarcerations, including recently calling a convicted rapist, a pig, landed someone in jail. 84,000 politically motivated communications crimes in Germany, 6,000 defined hate crimes based on speech in France. Across Europe, this has become a major issue. Again, I'll reflect on Gavin Newsom, vetoing SB 771 in this state, but we were very close,
Starting point is 01:12:59 and I think it's very important that we pay attention to it. Sachs. That's a really good one. It's a good one. Well, I would agree with that one, but the one I would choose is that at Stanford, they said that if you're disabled, you get more time on tests,
Starting point is 01:13:18 and you can kind of be unproctored and kind of... Accommodations. Right. So now, 50% of students at Stanford say they're disabled. And you had a case to make yourself, and you never pulled the Asperger's card. I never pulled that card. But anyway, but no, this is all part of a piece with grades.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Basically, there's no grades anymore. And everyone sort of claims to be disabled in order to get special advantages. Disgratziat. Disgratziad. My disgraciad was very good. Was socialism in New York, my hometown, absolutely disgraceful, and the actual true New Yorkers didn't vote for it,
Starting point is 01:13:56 but the people who've been there for under 10 years did overwhelmingly disgracead for me. Tony, who's your disgracad for 2025? I'd have to say the people that just cheered that people won't be leaving California next year in this crowd is the disgraciod. Yeah? You guys realize there's other places, right?
Starting point is 01:14:19 I was guilty of it, too. I lived in L.A. happily for almost 20 years. I loved it. I really never thought I would move to another place. And as a touring comedian, you know, you go visit places. And you would go back to L.A. That was just the headquarters. It took so much chaos for me to even try to go to another place
Starting point is 01:14:42 and fall in love with it. but when you do try other places, you find that it's better than this, and it's definitely better than this, because L.A. is better than this, and this is just the worst. And the world, and by the way, the world is laughing at you,
Starting point is 01:14:59 and some of you are booing, but you're clearly not the ones making the money off the app that shows you where the shit on the sidewalks is in this hot fucking dump that you call home. So anyway, you're the discrecia. I love it. Bringing the heat. See, I'm a real wrestling fan. I'll do a heel turn live in real time.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Way to win the audience, Tony. You had the, they loved you for 90 minutes. You were doing so well. You couldn't love yourself. Burning it down. Fuck you, assholes. That was not only a heel turn, it was a low blow, it was a chair shot over the head of the entire audience.
Starting point is 01:15:36 And what's perfect is that half of them now won't bother me at the after party. It's a win-win right there. Okay. All right, listen, this has been absolutely amazing. Let's give it up for the one, the only, Tony Hinchcliffe. You're incredible. Unbelievable. Let me just thank Tony. Tony, thank you for what you do.
Starting point is 01:15:59 People don't have to agree with your speech. I feel it's really important that comedians act as the flag bearers to keep freedom of speech alive. For all the jokes we can make about the things you say and the way you offend people, I think that pushing the limits is so important. And for that, I appreciate what you do, and love your work. Yeah. And more, leave us to say, honestly, I think this is like the most fun Christmas party we've had. Ever.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Ever. And probably the most fun event we've ever had is because of Tony here. Yeah. No question about it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:16:35 And I was kidding, audience. You're not really that much of a disgratio. It was a joke. It's a little bit of walking it back. They were with you until that. These nerds are used to they're having flashbacks to getting bullied back in the day. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:16:47 You just stuff them all in the locker, metaphorically. We'll see you next year. And we really appreciate all of you coming out tonight. Yeah, thank you guys so much. Come do it out the fans. Honestly, I didn't know what to expect from this, and honestly, this is the most fun we've ever had doing an event. Happy holidays.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Thank you to all of you. Thank you.

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