Always Laugh Podcast - Pod #23 - SPECIAL GUEST 6 TIME D1 COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYER!
Episode Date: June 20, 2023This episode we talk to an athlete that played at 6 different D1 college football programs. Hosted By: Austin Lane (@austinlane_fit), AJ Allen (@ajnotalex), and Walker Smith Subscribe to our YouTube ...channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYNegdIXrzsdQxLPjeWsKww MERCH - Coming Soon! Follow us on all socials!! @alwayslaughpodcast
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Welcome back to the always laugh podcast. My name is Austin Lane. My name is AJ. I'm Walker and I'm excited about our guest Smith. Hell yeah, let's get it. Today we got big Rob in the building. Our friend from high school. We've we're reconnecting with him. Long time no see. So yeah. Now now what do you like to go by? It depends where I'm at. Okay, I like that.
Depends on what scenario.
So say you were doing a podcast with a couple of people you haven't seen really since high school.
What would you want to go by then?
Yeah, just Big Rob.
Big Rob.
I like it.
Big Rob is one of the most fascinating people you'll ever come into contact with.
I remember hanging out with this kid in high school and just thinking,
I don't know where he's going.
This kid is something special.
I don't know where he's going, but he's going somewhere,
and somewhere you did go.
That is facts.
Bro, y'all really went to school together.
But, hey, Big Rob, this is the number one podcast you've never heard of, man.
Let's get it.
If you ain't laughing, you ain't living.
Come on, man.
Yes, sir.
Hell yeah.
But yeah, fucking Big Rob, man.
Thanks for coming out and joining us on this podcast.
Oh, yeah.
I'm happy I'm here.
Hell yeah.
So you just moved back to Raleigh.
Yeah, I moved back about two weeks ago.
Where were you at before?
I was in Florida, outside of Tampa, in Lakeland.
And what brought you down to Florida?
Opportunity to start my coaching career in high school.
And, you know, I realized I don't really want to be a coach.
Coaching football?
At least you're figuring it out early.
Yeah, yeah yeah yeah so so like i said we all
we as well walker uh myself and rob big rob all played uh football together in high school
the good old days the glory days we all graduated seven years ago yesterday so uh so it's been
literally seven years since we've all seen each other in person that's kind
of fucking it literally doesn't even feel like it's been that long no it only seems like a
few months right like it feels like i just saw you yesterday other than the fucking brand new
mullet you didn't you had the old buzz cut back brand new mullet and you know looking like a brick
shit house yeah that's you know that's definitely new those pecs weren't nearly as popping the last
time i saw you no i'm more just like a board.
What do you use in that fucker?
Do you use any product or what?
Just all natural baby shampoo.
I like that.
Baby shampoo?
Baby shampoo.
I actually use baby shampoo two times this week.
I was at my aunt and uncle's house, and they have a little child,
and the shit works nice, so I respect it.
You're stealing shampoo from a baby.
Yeah, well, I was using the shower,
and they didn't have the shit I needed for adults.
Just have to use soap, man.
I had to tap into the baby cousin shit.
We're at a three and one.
Two and one is the highest I'll go.
Two and one is fine.
Shampoo, conditioner, two and one is fine. What about body wash in there, too? No, we got to hit the highest I'll go. Two-in-one is fine. Shampoo, conditioner, two-in-one is fine.
What about body wash in there, too?
No, we got to hit the Method Man for that.
See, I like the shampoo, conditioner, body wash.
And I remember the commercial where it was the toothpaste, too.
The four-in-one.
What the fuck?
I think that needs to make a comeback.
That is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard.
Let's get it out.
I want to go into the bathroom and only have to use one bottle.
Is this a real thing?
Yes.
Can we pop up a picture right here?
We're going to pop up a picture.
Five and one, add deodorant to it.
Fuck it.
We already throw the...
I think we got some, boys.
This thing has less.
I didn't even know there was even a three and one, let alone a potential four and one
in a couple of places in the world.
AJ, you've spent a lot of time in less than savory convenience stores.
I refuse to believe you've never seen a three-in-one.
I've never bought fucking what kind of product?
What do you call those type of products?
Hygiene products or whatever?
At a gas station, bro.
At least go to Dollar Tree.
For some reason, hygiene products sound so gross.
All right, we are diving way too deep into these hygiene products.
Let's get back to Big Rob for a second.
So back in high school, this motherfucker right here was the guy that was like,
he was driven.
You know, he had his dreams, his goals, his aspirations.
Go into the U, baby.
This guy used to come up to me all the time.
The U, baby. All the time the u baby all the time he's like
i'm going d1 i'm d1 so like let's talk about it man and you know at the time it was kind of like
a running joke at the team like you come in and just like you'd yell like you know i'm going to
you want i'm going to the u and do like the miami symbol like at the in the middle of practice and all that and
everyone like would pretty much laugh it off but you said you were just gonna start you're like
you were trying to start your coaching career what happened before your coaching career
well I uh should I just start from when let's start from the day that you left Sanderson
please yes wait hold on hold on, hold on.
Did you have any offers in high school?
Well, I had an offer to go to North Dakota State.
That's a good D2 school.
Is that D1, D2? What was the offer for?
What position did you play?
It's FCS.
It's for long snapping.
Long snapping.
Essentially, they called me the day before signing day and said hey
like we're revoking your offer damn oh we messed up the scholarship count what that's fucked up
and so uh that's fucking i ended up uh getting a preferred walk-on to tulsa hell yeah and uh
that's like high d1 yeah yeah yeah american conference oh yeah with uh you know
ecu and houston yeah well they were in the conference yeah but fuck knows now ucf was in
there uh you know so some some pretty solid teams so you you ended up uh you were a preferred walk
on at tulsa yeah yeah so i went there literally seven years ago today. Oh, shit. The day after graduation, you went to Tulsa.
Went to Tulsa the day after.
Preferred walk-on at Tulsa.
It's our freshman year, and me and Austin's two other roommates both played football on the same high school team.
And one of them is like, Big Rob's playing at Ohio State today.
Yeah, he's playing against Ohio State.
I was like, dude, you are fucking high.
Yeah.
We're like, there's no way.
He's not going to be on the field.
Like, bullshit.
Bro, I turn it on, we turn it on, and it's a punt,
and I'll be damned if you were not in the middle of the horseshoe,
long snapping a punt, and running down trying to make the tackle.
Dude, it was one of the craziest things.
I was like, no fucking way.
Big Rob actually went D1. He made it. That's fucking awesome. Against Ohio State. I was like, no fucking way. Big Rob actually went D1.
Dude, he fucking made it.
That's fucking awesome.
Against Ohio State.
I saw you run all the way down the field.
Probably the last one down.
The punt returner was right in front of you.
You were like, uh.
Yeah, I didn't know what to do, man.
You're like, I'm here to snap, damn it.
I'm not here to tap.
How long did you stay at tulsa well i got there like
i said you know seven years ago today so the day after we graduated uh literally within the next
week which was crazy because you know we graduated on a friday that next friday i was already started
college classes already started summer workouts that's insane you didn't even have to apply to
this school.
You just fucking were in there.
Pretty much, yeah.
Gave me a whole bunch of grant money and everything.
You play football, here's the football grant.
Yeah, that's cool.
This is for highly academic students, but you're not highly academic,
but you play football.
That's what they told me.
That's funny.
Do you have any good stories from playing at Tulsa?
Yeah, I got a couple.
Let's hear something. The horseshoe, you guys just brought that up.
I know there's going to be 100,000 people there.
You're shitting yourself.
I was.
I was.
I was pretty nervous.
Yeah.
But I literally told my roommate the night before the game, I'm like,
listen, there's going to be 100,000 people there.
I'm going to fake an injury so that 100,000 people will clap for me.
That's wild.
That's genius.
So, you know, we didn't punt the first quarter.
And then the second quarter, you know, I sent my first punt.
The game was kind of close, so it was kind of like, you know, can't do it yet.
I'm going to wait for the right time.
So we get to the fourth quarter.
You know, we're down like 40 to 3 or something,
and there's like six minutes left to go in the game.
It's raining.
So I'm like, you know, this is my moment.
Right.
This is it.
And so I end up snapping the ball, kind of running down there. And Roquan McMillan, who plays for the Dolphins, he, like, came up on me,
and he kind of grabbed me.
And so I just kind of just let him just throw me down.
And so he let him throw me down, and I'm just sitting on the ground,
like, holding my shoulder.
And, like, everyone's kind of just walking off the field.
I'm just like, I'm going to fake it, just wait for the trainers to come out.
And all of a sudden, my teammate Travisvis gibson he starts now for the uh bears he literally just picks me up
from my shoulder pads lifts me up and puts me on his feet and he's like dude we're not doing this
did he know what you were trying to do because i was like telling everybody the whole week like
i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do this and uh I was like telling everybody the whole week, like, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this.
He was like,
we're not doing this.
Get your bitch ass off the ground.
Basically, yeah.
And he just was like
laughing when he picked me up
with a,
it wasn't like he was
serious about it.
Right.
We're not doing this,
you know,
laughing and stuff.
Dude, that's fucked up.
He ruined your chance
to get one of the biggest
applauses ever.
You were about to get
your standing ovation.
100,000 people
and Urban Meyer
get a clap for me? That's a shining people and Urban Meyer going to clap for me?
Yeah.
That's a shining thing.
Urban Meyer hasn't clapped for many people in his life.
That would have been impressive.
I was thinking I might get one.
Shit.
That's hilarious.
Also pretty crazy, Joe Burrow was a freshman that year.
So, like, I remember he played that game.
Oh, yeah?
Oh, yeah.
With LSU.
That's wild.
I play on the same field with joe burrow joe shysty
oh yeah um so dude i i've you know i scroll through your instagram every now and again see
check up on you i saw it might have been one of your captions or something it said something like
i'm the only uh the only person ever to play at five D1 colleges. Is that true?
Or what's the story with that?
That's a long story, man.
Let's dive into it.
It's a long podcast.
So you started at Tulsa.
So what happened?
So you transferred from there or what?
Yeah, yeah.
So I started all 12 games or 13, whatever it was.
Well, I actually got suspended for a game.
For what?
How does the long snapper get suspended?
Fucking off. got suspended for a game for what so long snapper gets suspended fucking off so essentially uh
after ohio state game you know i thought i was the man you're like yeah i'm big shit on campus
you know started at the horseshoe yeah so anyways we uh we play in north carolina a and t the next
week and uh you know they're coming out to our place and uh so essentially like we got freshman workouts yeah for on fridays are called freshman
fridays in the previous week i talked with the strength coaches like listen like why do i got
to go to these if i'm starting like i know i'm just a snapper but like i'm only like one of four
freshmen playing so anyways you know i get up go go to the workouts that next day and uh and that was on a friday and uh i get up there and
my name's not on the list and so i'm like all right cool like you know i don't really gotta
like i get to go home yeah i get to go home go back to sleep go up i go back to sleep i come
back later that day for like meetings and they're like listen like you didn't show up to workouts
this morning you're suspended for the game damn and so I tried to tell the head coach, but basically he said a second string snapper could start.
He was like a senior.
So, you know, they just kind of gave him a start.
Yeah.
And anyways, like, I didn't think I was going to play anymore the rest of the year.
And so, you know, we play Fresno State the next week.
And the whole week I'm like the backup snapper.
And so the ref comes up to me before the game.
And they're like, hey hey like uh are you just starting
snapper and i'm like man like you know i was you know i don't really know why you bring that up
yeah for real so anyways he's like who's your special teams coach and you know pulling them
out then he comes back over like two minutes later he's like hey bro you're starting today
i'm like the coaches haven't told me anything you're like shit i'm not warm let me snap some
balls yeah for real so anyways you know I go back to the locker room.
Even though he did, like, the pregame snaps before.
Oof.
And so I was like, I don't even know what's going on.
And so, anyways, he comes up to me and he's like, listen.
It's like, I remember looking at the clock.
It was like eight minutes before we were going on the field.
He's like, you're starting today.
Don't fuck it up.
And he just walks away.
And so, anyways.
Was this your special teams coach or the other guy?
Yeah, yeah, the special teams coach.
It's like, don't fuck it up.
Yeah, so essentially after that, you know,
I started the rest of the games, went to workouts.
Everything was good.
Yeah, you know, we won a bowl game and everything.
I saw that, bro.
I remember having a – you and I had a class together in high school.
We had a conversation about how you were going D1
and you were going to go play in a bowl game and you were going to get all the bowl game gear that was your fucking goal to get all the
gear at a bowl game oh yeah it wasn't as much as i thought it would be but yeah what do you get when
you win a bowl game oh i mean they'll give you a ring uh you know your bowl jersey um yeah then i
mean just the gifts you know some shirts this one shirt actually right here they gave us in a bowl game.
And, you know, just a couple shirts,
and then, you know, you'll get a championship bowl shirt if you win.
Right.
And, you know, you get gifts and stuff, headphones.
So Tulsa was the first team.
Yeah.
What happened next?
So after the season, I go talk with the coach,
and they have another long snapper coming in.
Yeah.
And they previously offered him a scholarship before I got there.
Yeah.
His older brother snapped the year before I got there,
and so it's kind of like, you know, they knew who he was.
They offered him a scholarship.
Some family ties and shit.
Yeah.
Some bullshit politics.
Yeah, so, you know, so they gave it to him.
Some rich boy shit.
Yeah, for real.
So anyways, it just kind of screwed me.
So where did you go next?
So you transferred.
So after that, you're like, I'm going somewhere else.
I'm not sitting on the bench as a long snapper.
That's bullshit.
Or you got cut.
Nah, like he just said I could still have a chance.
Nah, nah, nah.
My fault.
Nah, it's nothing like that.
It was just, you know know you can play the next
three years on uh as a walk-on or you can uh you know leave so where'd you go well i uh got in the
portal or i guess there wasn't a portal then so like you had to get like released from the school
yeah and then you could email schools and send them the release. And you could be like, hey, you know, here's my release.
I'm eligible to play.
So, anyways, UCF, Houston, and South Florida were like –
I played against them, so they knew who I was.
They all were calling Kolstad.
Really?
Yeah, UCF, Houston, South Florida.
Oh, yeah, and UConn.
Kolstad was our high school coach.
Yeah.
And they were all calling Kolstad. Kolstad's high school coach. They're all calling Colstad.
Colstad's boosting me up. They all offer me a scholarship.
But at the time, you can't transfer
in the same conference
without sending out a year.
So Tulsa ended up helping
me out. They ended up giving me
they signed
documents that said that
they'll allow me to play at another school.
But the conference
the american conference wouldn't let me damn so they kind of screwed me right and uh ended up
getting in touch with penn state and uh pit and uh ended up choosing pit and um about a week before
i was supposed to go to pit cal calls me cal berkeley uh pack 12 yeah and uh
they offer me a full ride damn and so anyways i bet you were fired up you got to do that oh yeah
yeah so i'm like i'm going to cal i called the pit coaches it's like hey i'm going to cal
anyways they're like here we'll give you a scholarship. So then I'm like, well, ACC, close to home.
I'm going to Pitt.
Basically, they just write everything up.
Like, our long snapper who graduated has one class left.
He's finishing up in the summer.
Then the scholarship's yours.
Anyways, I signed a document, signed a paper when I get up there
and everything with it.
So this is at Pitt?
Yeah, this is at Pitt.
So I think everything's good.
Right.
And anyways, fall camp comes i'm
you know starting to snapper and everything my bill comes in for classes it's like thirty thousand
dollars for out of state you're like uh and they want me to pay they want me to pay this the first
month the fuck yeah like who has thirty thousand dollars just laying around right and so i went up
and talked to the coach and he was like oh yeah so we end up just giving that scholarship to somebody else no shit and i was like well where's
my paperwork documentation what paperwork documentation so so they screwed you over
yeah i went to cal berkeley yeah i should have yeah but you know so then what was the next step
so after so they screwed you over pit didn't. So did you end up playing at Pitt?
No, I was just there for summer.
Just there for the summer, and then you went to where next?
I went to Garden City Community College.
All right.
So they give you the bill.
You're like, all right, you'll fuck me over.
I can't pay this.
How do you get out of that?
Do you come back to North Carolina?
No.
I start hitting up community colleges, and I fly out of Pittsburgh to Garden City.
Literally within a week, I was eating filet mignon and crab legs at Pitt.
A week later, staying in a fancy apartment, all this stuff.
A week later, I'm literally in the middle of Kansas,
living in some random lady's basement and that's tough eating school lunch damn that's crazy dude this
is like uh what's the netflix show last chance you bro what yeah they were in last chance my boy
is on last what what what school oh it was gardner city yeah garden city community college weren't
they i've seen yeah that yeah they? I've seen, yeah.
Yeah, they.
Yeah, Independence played.
Yeah, and the coaches were fighting.
That coach.
Bro, that coach is wild, bro.
Bro, I got some stories about him, man.
Let's hear him.
What's his name again?
What's his name again?
John.
Or no, not John.
Yeah, JB was the.
JB, yeah.
That was the Independence guy.
He said, listen here, motherfucker.
He used to go off on those players. He's like, I'll beat your ass, son. That was the independence guy. He said, listen here, motherfucker. He used to go off on those players.
He's like, I'll beat your ass, son.
Is that the really big guy?
I don't know, dude.
He used to have them players heated.
Season one or something like that?
Yeah, so Jeff Sims, man, he was the coach at Garden City.
He played at Tulsa, so, you know, he kind of, like, brought me on.
And, I mean, he was worse than the guy on last chance you
he would literally pick people out in the meeting and just call start calling him like a bitch
like oh you're a bitch like what the fuck you gonna do come up here and say something myself
in my face and like it was wild we're film sessions just brutal, I was a snapper, so I didn't really have to watch film.
But, I mean, he would.
No one believes me.
And I've told this story a million times.
We would eat lunch at, no, eat dinner at 5.30, 6 o'clock at night.
We would get out on the field at 6.30.
We wouldn't get off the field until, like, 1.30 in the morning.
Damn. You're like, bro, I'm just here to to snap why am i still out here but that's the thing like he made me snap the whole time
that's crazy he made the kickers kick the whole time he had everyone sending this on a straight
line or standing on a straight line across the uh sideline and like you couldn't talk
anytime someone dropped the pass there is like a pole in the middle of this like cow field.
And you had to run, touch the pole, and come back.
Anytime you dropped the pass, you missed the tackle, you ran the wrong route.
Bad snap.
I didn't have any of those.
You're like, I'm not fucking this up.
So it was crazy.
Anytime the kicker would miss a kick, everyone had to do 10 up-downs.
That's crazy.
And the kicker didn't have to do them.
He was just standing there.
Damn.
And so he was pretty bad, so we had to do a lot of up-downs for him.
Yeah.
And anyways, first game was coming up,
and I could tell my snaps were kind of slower
because I've been snapping 500 balls a day for
the last two weeks right you're tired so i tried to tell him i listen you know like we need to take
it easy on me you know i got to make sure i'm fresh so i can get good film out and you know
go back d1 you're like i bet you didn't like hearing i bet he didn't like hearing that at all
he didn't and he didn't so he was basically just, you know, you're too small to play D1.
And I was like.
Who the hell are you?
Yeah, I said, well, I just started like 12 games last year.
And he's like, well, you're here now, you know, like.
That's how it always is.
You're here now.
Yeah, coaches always talk shit.
Yeah, so anyways, this dude really got on my nerves one day.
And he's like, I told him I'm not snapping anymore.
And he's like, yeah, you are.
He's like, pick up the ball.
And so I kicked the ball.
And he was like, all right, get off my fucking field.
And I was just like, okay.
And I take my helmet off.
I slam it on the ground.
I take my jersey off, drop it.
Take my shoulder pads off, drop them. I have my undershirt on. ground i take my jersey off drop it take my shoulder pads off
drop them i have my undershirt on take my undershirt off take that off kick off the
shoes they gave me the cleats take off my uh pants take off my girdle and i walk back to the
locker room with my tighty whities on that's fucking hilarious full out yard sale on the
practice you're like fuck this shit i'm out and i just walked off like this you pulled an antonio brown yeah you did the ab before ab oh
yeah even better everyone just started clapping too that's hilarious started clapping they all
wish they could be you and i remember walking had to i kind of regret taking my shoes off because
like i had to walk across these like just 100 yards of just like gravel. Yeah.
So I'm walking across that.
You're like, I have to thug this out.
Like I can't look like a bitch now.
For real.
My feet were hurting.
Walked to the, you know, had to walk across the street.
People were like honking the horn.
Dude, that's awesome.
Then like the, I don't know, volleyball team was out there,
and they were just kind of looking at me sideways. It's like, what's this man doing?
You just give them a wink and a nod like, yeah.
Yeah, just winked at him and walked by.
See you never.
Anyways, he, like, called me and was like, hey, like,
even after your outburst, you know, like,
we would still like you to come back,
but anytime you miss a class there or a meeting or, in my case, you know,
practice, you have to run seven miles
or you're off the team damn so he was like yeah like all you have to do is run seven miles that's
gonna be a nice marathon for you we'll take you back you're like yeah yeah he said we'll just
give you 28 miles holy shit so i was like nah dog i'm'm good. He wanted you to run 28 miles to join back the Juco football team?
Yeah.
Could you, like, space it out, like 14 one day, 14 another day?
Nah, bro.
Like, literally it was, like, you know, 1 a.m., and I was in his office.
And he was literally like, hey, like, come back up here at 5,
and you can probably knock out, like, three or four miles before breakfast.
And I was just like, nah, like nah man like i'm not feeling that
and uh the special teams coach was like come on man like i'll be here at 5 a.m i'm like dude
i swear to god bro like i'm not gonna be here so don't waste your time even come up here
so i sleep in you know to like 10 11 o'clock because you know i'm done with it and uh you
know i wake up i have like 30 missed calls from this guy.
The coach?
Yeah, like both coaches.
Oh, yeah.
And he like texts me, hey, I told coach you ran this morning like seven miles.
Oh, shit.
He was trying to look out for you.
Yeah, yeah.
But, you know, I missed all my classes that day.
You're like, I got 28 more.
I got 45.
Yeah.
Like, all right, if you run 50 miles, you're back on the team.
I wasn't feeling that.
The JUCO stuff is crazy though.
You literally got kids on there that have ankle monitors on.
Yeah, I bet it's wild.
I think that's a major.
I think that is something that needs to be talked about more
is the whole JUCO football program.
Just in general because JUCO schools have basketball teams at almost every Juco.
But not every Juco has a football team.
And the ones that do are fucking, I feel like they're over the top, bro.
You're good.
Keep talking.
What the fuck going on?
You're good, bro.
Keep talking.
But I just feel like the Juco football teams are out of control, bro.
They need to chill out with that because the basketball is not taking that serious.
Well, I would honestly disagree with you there.
I think maybe not the Juco portion, but basketball.
Players are coming to the league now with the knees of 40-year-olds at 18.
Well, because they've been playing AAU since they're fucking three.
Yeah, I would almost equate Juco and aau oh no dude i'm
talking about like juco the schools that do have juco football teams are doing too much like they
are like i understand the last chance you program schools but like he like he was saying you got
kids with ankle monitors on you got kids that went D1 that had some shit happen.
Now they're here and they're trying to get back to D1.
Rape some women.
You got kids that were the best player in their city that grew up in that city
that now just want to play.
They're doing too much.
Like you said, 28 miles.
Fuck off.
Yeah, that's bullshit.
What's Juco, bro?
And he can enforce that because for a lot of those kids, it's their last chance. Right. Literally. Last chance, you. Yeah, that's bullshit. What's Juco, bro? And you can enforce that because for a lot of those kids, it's their last chance.
It's their only last chance.
Yeah, literally.
So you would quit the football team, quit all your classes, then what happened?
Or not quit all your classes.
Hold on, quick question.
During all this time, you leaving one school, going to another,
you have a fallout with their, like, fuck that shit, you're going somewhere else.
If you don't mind me asking what do you your parents like do they have any like opinion on this or they just like we we rock with you whatever you want to do we trust you whatever
you want to do i mean to be honest i kind of wanted to go to cal and like you know my parents
wanted me to stay at pit so that's why i went to pit they wanted know, my parents wanted me to stay at Pitt. So that's why I went to Pitt. They wanted you closer?
Yeah, they wanted me closer.
They thought I could go to more games.
And I was kind of skeptical about the scholarship, but, like, you know.
You trusted them.
Yeah, I trusted them.
Why would you not?
I mean, they're professionals.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so, you know, I feel like after that fell through,
that they were more like, hey, we'll rock with you whatever you want to do.
Right.
Because I feel like, I mean, they never told me this,
and I've really never expressed it to them, but, like, you know,
they probably felt kind of bad that happened.
Right.
Of course, yeah.
Even though I don't really feel like I would have lasted at Cal too long.
Yeah, you don't think so?
Nah.
Party lifestyle would have caught up to you.
Man, not smart enough for that school.
What, they don't have people doing your homework for you in those big programs?
Probably not there.
Some of them.
Yeah, some of them they do, man.
You probably got to be smart and a good athlete.
Yeah.
So real quick before we talk about where you went next,
every time we have a guest on the podcast we like to try to get them a little gift just a little something to show our appreciation
for you guys uh coming out for you coming out and uh sweet thank you so yeah it's a little cigar set
i think if you can open it from open it from yep the front should open up something like that oh
yeah there's a couple cigars in there for you.
I love cigars.
There you go, man.
Let's go.
So I was the one who...
You've smoked a lot of championship cigars over the years.
A couple.
That's why we agreed on cigars would be the best.
I'm like, dude, this dude is on Instagram flexing with fucking trophies and shit.
Cigar looking like different school.
Can we pop up the picture from your Instagram?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, we'll pop it up.
Him smoking the cigar.
It's an iconic picture.
Cigar mouth.
So we're like, let's give him cigars.
And I happen to be the one to get those.
Bro, I'm sorry.
I don't know nothing about cigars.
And they were not being helpful in
there we trusted aj with the cigar mission so if they taste like shit it's all his fault
that'll be fine so hopefully they're decent i don't i didn't know what i was buying at all but
i appreciate it thank you yeah yeah of course man we appreciate you uh you know 100 thanks for
coming popping out oh yeah you're literally a fucking local celebrity literally bro you you
get talked
about a lot like just like within our friend group at least we're always like what the fuck
is big rob doing like like there are pictures on your instagram with you with so many different
teams and shit we're like what the hell so after um your little blow up after you decided not to
stay at the chuko do 50 miles of running yeah so i ended up just coming back you know training
uh working yeah and um what would your training regimen look like i would uh usually go like a
chest tricep day and then a leg day and then back buys and then I'll take an off day. And then off day, you know, I would usually do some type of running and core work,
and then I'll just kind of repeat the cycle.
And then snap, you know, three or four days a week.
So you came back home, back to Raleigh.
Came back to Raleigh?
Yeah, I came back to Raleigh.
I got my associates online.
Nice.
I had to take like 45 credits so I could get my associates.
Yeah.
Cause they have a rule where if you don't get your associates after one
transfer at the time that you're ineligible and you can't play.
So you're like,
I got to grind this out.
Yeah.
So I had to get like 45 credits.
It's like 21 and then like 24.
So at this point,
so at this point in your career career were you was it just like
you were just trying to get that scholarship or were you like it was for the love of the game
like you were still like i'm passionate about this like i want i want this bad oh yeah like i just
wanted to play ball yeah um so anyways i had an opportunity to go to uh either uga or south
carolina and that was right after uga you know playing the national
championship yeah and so that's uh university georgia yeah but uh shit yeah so you know i went
to uga obviously right south carolina won like three games the previous year so you went to
georgia yeah so i went to uga you was a bulldog yeah that's crazy that's fire so so what happened
at uga dog yeah man it was insane i mean just the athletes in there and uh i believe it just
being around that type of talent i mean jordan davis who was a first round pick to the eagles
you know justin fields was there jake from um de DeAndre Swift. That's crazy.
So you're just around.
Could Jordan Davis fit through a regular-sized door without going sideways?
Probably not.
I don't think so.
So you're just around all these absolute units.
Like S-tier level talent.
Yeah.
Five stars on five.
Jake Fromm's a bitch.
I've seen his little Netflix show.
Yeah, man. Jake Frommake from dude he was actually probably my
best friend there damn tell me he's a bitch some kid in raleigh told me or not kid but some man
in raleigh's told me he's a bitch yeah man he's doing a lot there i would go to church with him
and then charlie warner who's a 49ers player he uh went to church like every Sunday. Nice.
He'd come pick me up
and we'd go to church
and like I know
I saw that he was on that
like Netflix show
and I didn't even know
he was on it
and then like his parents
were talking about it one day
and so I like looked it up
and saw it
and it was
they said they stayed there
like the people that work there
they said they stayed there
like 24-7. That's crazy. The people that worked there, they said they stayed there 24-7.
That's crazy.
The Netflix people?
Yeah, they would pay for food.
Apparently, they filmed that shit, but it don't come out until years later.
Yeah, I think 10 months.
Yeah, something like that.
So you're at Georgia.
Yes, I'm at Georgia. And the class I came in with was the highest ranked class ever come in, you know, to UGA.
So like we had like seven, eight, five stars, you know, 12, 13, four stars.
And it's just like you got this unathletic snapper coming, you know, with these guys.
Yeah. And so anyway, stuff was going good. You know, I was really
showing out in the lifts. Um, we had a guy named Nick Moore who was going to be the starter that
year. And, uh, you know, I was pretty mad because I felt like I was better than him. And he actually
told me, he's like, yeah, like you're a better snapper than me and stuff. Like just keep working.
And I should have just took his advice, you know,
but I was pretty mad that I wasn't playing.
And so, like, I kind of, you know, like a lot of kids do at this age is,
you know, you get a bad attitude about it.
Right.
And, you know, I ended up getting a pretty bad concussion in practice.
And then I ended up having, like, this bacterial infection.
And I ended up losing – I almost died, honestly.
Damn.
I ended up losing, like, 50 pounds.
Holy shit, man.
And, you know, so I really didn't get the play that year after that
because that kind of happened in, like, September,
about first week of September, last week of August, somewhere around there.
Yeah, so, like, the beginning of the season.
Yeah, so I ended up losing all that weight and stuff.
So I really wasn't even around the team that much because I was –
You were going through it.
Yeah, man.
Like I said, I was probably in the hospital four or five times.
Like –
That's wild.
They were giving me all these different types of tests to try to figure out, like, what was wrong with me.
And, I mean, I was just having a bunch of health issues.
So, I mean, at this point I just felt like felt like you know I'm kind of just done with football you
know like it is what it is and uh I went home probably about December and um uh I finally
started recovering and stuff and uh I ended up getting a call just kind of randomly from like
Nevada because I saw my name was in the portal.
That was one of the questions I had for you.
I was like, I don't know much about what the hell Robert's doing,
but I don't remember him ever playing at Nevada.
But I saw a picture on your Instagram once again,
which is where most of my information is coming from.
But I was like, what the fuck?
He played at Nevada?
Yeah, it was really
weird so like he's fucking goaded bro he just he's everywhere he just stays d1 bro like it ain't
nothing he said it he always said it i'm d1 baby see that's gonna be at every d1 school in the
nation before i'm done that's the thing though everyone looking at him crazy talking about i'm
going d1 he spoke that shit into existence bro oh. Oh, yeah. That's fire, bro.
It was weird, man.
I just got a call from a Texas number.
And I was like, who's this?
Because I hadn't sent any film out, really, because I wasn't really thinking I was in
shape to play.
I mean, I was 170 pounds and I was 220.
And I was just trying to get back my health.
You know what I mean? Right, right. and I was just trying to get back my health.
You know what I mean?
I actually applied and got into school at UNCW and I was just thinking about going to the beach,
just chilling, doing a frat.
Recuperating.
And just joining a frat.
Retiring.
Yeah.
You were hanging up the cleats.
I was, man.
Dude, you were just slaying so much dick around there.
I mean, hell yeah.
I'm a four-way D1 player.
Yeah, I won a bowl game down in Tulsa.
No big deal.
Yeah, line up, ladies, please.
Thank you.
Shit.
But, you know, yeah, so I go to Nevada.
So they, like, call me and they're just like, hey, like, this is, you know,
Jay Norvell.
I'm the head coach at Nevada.
Like, do you want to come here and play?
Like, we're going to win championships here.
Don't they all say that?
Yeah, and I'm just like, where are we at, man?
Like, where are you at?
What the fuck are you talking about?
He said, yeah, I'm in Nevada.
Yeah, and I'm just like.
Like, we talking Vegas or what?
Yeah, and he's like, nah, like, we're in reno and i'm like man where is
that i've heard reno's wild it is man it is and so like i didn't know anything about it and uh
honestly i wasn't really sold on going but you know he called me a couple of times kind of talked
me into it and so i was uh went out there and i I was like, screw it.
I literally just packed my bag, like two bags, and went out there.
I didn't even see the campus, see anything.
I'm like, I'll just play.
That's wild.
So anyways, I end up moving there, sleeping on a couch.
No, yeah, sleeping on a blow-up mattress for like my first freaking like three months there
because like I couldn't move into the uh dorms yet or whatever or the
apartments and uh and so uh yeah to slip on the blow up went to workouts and uh you know
fall camp starts i'm the number one guy obviously yeah that man so anyways head coach brought you in special order.
Yeah.
And so anyways, I ended up getting –
From across the country, literally.
Yeah, yeah.
So I ended up getting like another concussion.
And so that kind of put me down on the depth chart.
Yeah.
And we end up, which I regret doing this, we have a talent show.
And all the rookies got to do something.
So I was like, all right.
You regret it.
Oh, no, I want to hear this.
Yeah, so I end up like, all right, I'm definitely going to do stand-up comedy.
That's funny.
That's hilarious.
I had the place jumping, dude.
People are laughing.
People are loving it.
Then I say a joke.
Oh, no.
You went too far.
I went too far.
I got booed off the stage.
The head coach is just like, F this guy.
Can you toss the joke?
Yeah, I will.
So the head coach was just like, F this guy.
Get him off.
There was women in here.
Oh, shit.
Fucking big rock.
Yeah, then the running back coach was all mad i have a sister
like like it's kind of like either people thought it was funny or people hated it right they're all
throwing stuff at me that's how comedy is yeah tell me to get off what year was this 20 uh 2019
let's hear this joke so essentially i was like know, I would set my jokes up as stories.
So, but like, you know,
so you remember like back in high school when you'd go to the mall and it was
like, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, you know, when you guys are like rating girls and I was like,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, checking girls out.
I'm like, you know,
the real way to determine how hot a girl is and they're like, what?
And I'm like,
you look at her and you wonder how long the police will look for if she went missing.
Ooh, that's freaking pretty.
That's hilarious.
You got booed off stage for that?
I mean, a lot of the guys that had a sense of humor came to me after, like, bro, that was hilarious.
Right.
But the majority of the people were like.
I feel like that's not even terrible.
Even the girl came up to me and I was in there.
I was like,
that was so funny.
Like they booed you off stage.
Yeah.
You wouldn't even say no.
Like coach was in trouble.
His wife,
he wanted to put on a little bit.
It was literally just a joke.
It wasn't even like you were being like super degrading to women or anything.
It was just like,
so that really kind of set people off against me,
especially the coaching staff.
And so that was really kind of against me after that.
And so anyways.
Over a damn talent show.
That really affected your playing time, huh?
It did, man.
So they like start.
Yeah, anyways, they end up starting this one guy who, you know,
we ended up becoming pretty good friends.
And so, you know, he started the first game.
He did pretty good.
So, you know, they're just going to roll with him.
The second week you're playing at Oregon. Yeah. And, you know, it started first game. He did pretty good. So, you know, they're just going to roll with him. The second week you're playing at Oregon.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's in stadium.
So, I mean, I was kind of like we had a fraternity party that week.
I ended up joining a fraternity.
Okay.
And so.
So you were playing football and in a fraternity at the same time.
So anyways, like we were having a big party that weekend.
So I was just kind of like, you know, I literally told the coach,
I was like, listen, dude, like, honestly,
I really don't want to like go to the game.
Like I'm trying to party.
Yeah, for real.
And he's just like, no, like you're going.
And I'm just like, bro, like, can't you just, I was the third string last week.
Why are you bringing me?
Like, just bring the second string.
He's like, no, like you're going.
Yeah.
And so I was like, all right, like whatever.
So end up going to the game.
The guy gets hurt. And I come come in i snap the rest of the
game you know snap perfect and like so i just thought like you know the job's mine now right
anyways like for some reason they bring in this other guy for like no reason and like they start
him and he's like messing up like three games in a row. And then he finally snaps, like, two over the head that third game.
Yeah.
And they were, like, one was for a touchdown, one was for a safety.
Damn.
He was at the 20-yard line and snapped it through the back of the end zone.
Jesus Christ.
So, finally, they were just, like, all right, like, they're pretty much forced to play me.
Because, like I said, they were mad, I feel like, still about to choke.
You're looking at them, like, come on, what are you guys going to do?
Not put me in.
Exactly, man.
Exactly.
So, anyways, I start, like, four or five games in a row no issues then the kid that got hurt originally
against oregon they try to put him back in he's like messing up in practice and stuff and they're
like well we really can't yeah so i end up starting the rest of the games there you know we go to a
bowl game and we lose but that was probably the funnest bowl i went to though really idaho
potato bowl oh hell yeah was it who'd you play against ohio bobcats nice and uh better better
gifts this time yeah they had pretty solid gifts but like i ended up like transferring so like they
wouldn't send me my gifts what the fuck you didn't even get your stuff no i didn't see my gifts i
thought you were supposed to show up in the locker room. They have a duffel bag for you.
No, I got the clothes.
Yeah.
I didn't get like, because I got like a.
The shit they mail you.
Yeah, yeah.
You didn't stay long enough just until that deadline.
Yeah, they wouldn't give it to me.
I literally thought like.
You got to think that out, right?
I know, man.
I got like a Michael Kors bag for my mom.
I got like beets, and they wouldn't send me anything.
Damn.
For real.
And the potato bowl was going all out.
They were.
We went to, like, this, like, sledding place.
We got to, like, sled in these big tubes down a hill.
They had the bars.
We were there for New Year's.
And so they have a potato drop in Idaho.
It's this huge potato, and they drop the potato, and that's like their New Year's.
How big are we talking?
I'll show you a picture.
We'll pop up a picture later.
No, it's like bigger.
Bigger than the acorn?
It's like three times the size of a car.
Jesus.
That's a big-ass potato.
Yeah.
It's a real potato?
Yeah.
What the fuck?
They just grow it, bro. It's like higher than the ceiling, Yeah. It's a real potato? Yeah. What the fuck? They just grow it, bro.
It's higher than the ceiling, bro.
It's higher than the ceiling.
Does it...
Well, when they drop it, is it like a drop where it explodes on the ground?
Or is it like a slow drop?
It explodes on the ground.
They just drop it.
Are you serious?
It explodes everywhere.
It's actually a real potato.
Potato guts just go everywhere.
We'll put it down.
We'll put it down so you can see it.
If you have New Year's potato guts from the splash,'ll put it down we'll put it down if you have if you have new year's potato guts so you from the splash you lived it up that fucking year oh yeah that's
a sign that's a sign of virility you know also this is pretty funny too so we uh me and the
snapper who i was talking about earlier like like we were roommates, like we, we became like really good friends.
And so we're like,
you know,
let's,
let's mess around with some of our teammates.
So we find some like hot girl on,
uh,
you know,
Google images or something.
And,
uh,
we put her on the picture and we just start swiping right with like all these
people.
And,
uh,
we start getting,
you were literally catfishing people.
So we started getting like different teammates different teammates from, like, the opposing –
This might be illegal.
We get different teammates from, like, Ohio that, like, come to our place
and, like, go to, like, different teammates of ours looking for the girl.
Holy shit.
Jesus.
I think this might be illegal.
Oh, it might be.
That is the best way to get in your opponent's head pregame.
Oh, yeah.
Those guys are like, oh, I just found this fine-ass woman on the internet.
I'm about to go get some pussy for the big game.
And they show up to some gigantic D1 football players room.
Yeah, so we thought that was hilarious.
We're sitting in a hall laughing and stuff.
That is pretty fucking funny we
actually were like catfishing some of our coaches too oh my god they were saying some like weird
stuff and it's just like hey like you want to meet us at this bar and they're like yeah sure
like we'll come down so anyways like we had told them to meet us at a bar and then me and him would
go and like sit in the bar kind of in the corner and like see him walk in and like getting all
frantic and stuff like looking for this girl like texting their phone like where are you where are you like oh
i'm here like where are you you were like uh what's the net what are their names on the dudes
on catfish like ned and uh no idea whatever nav and yes anyways you know we deleted it you know
after the ball we thought it's pretty funny yeah that is funny dude this motherfucker right here
can snap a football like 60 yards.
He used to be like Austin because I played wide receiver.
He was long snapping.
He'd be like, Austin, go deep.
He would snap that motherfucker like 50 yards.
He can take a soda can off your head from 40 yards right on the dot.
Oh, yeah.
You guys remember that video?
Mm-hmm.
I got it somewhere.
How –
We'll put it here.
What's the –
If we can find the video, we'll pop it up.
Boop.
You got to do some searching.
To go from good in high school to D1, what is the difference?
Is it mainly just speed slash accuracy?
Is there a big jump from a really good high school snapper and like a really good d1 snapper like what's like the difference in like speed i mean i would just say like mostly
just mindset because you know when i went into tulsa i was uh you know i was real small in high
school and uh but i just had a mind tiny not tiny but yeah you know 5 know, 5'10", maybe 5'9", 170. So, I mean, I was, you know, frail.
And, you know, they were frail.
I was 140 pounds.
So, pretty much what I'm trying to say.
Mainly just mindset, man.
Because, I mean, when I went to Tulsa, there were three guys in front of me.
And they were all upperclassmen.
They all been there.
And, you know, I just beat them all out.
And the main thing was it's like they couldn't do it
under the pressure oh right you just clear what do you do you just clear your head and you just
snap the ball just like any other day yeah i mean i just kind of always thought about it is like
you know a punt snap is 15 yards i practice it all week it's still 15 yards in the game right
for field goals you know it's uh seven yards so i'm practicing seven yards the
whole week so it's gonna be seven yards in the game yeah it's it's different for like you know
kickers because you know you might be kicking left halves right hash middle you don't know
where you're gonna kick it but right it's kind of like the only for you you're just snapping that
it's like a free throw i mean it's the same thing every time yeah Yeah. Right. So what's been like the most nervous you've ever been on a punt or a field goal?
To be honest, after the Ohio State game, you know, my freshman year,
I was always kind of like nervous, you know.
And after that, I was never nervous again because I was like –
I stepped in front of 100,000 people.
It literally does not get bigger than this.
Right. You know know millions of people
watching we saw you we saw you do it your former teammates tune in oh yeah so i knew that it wasn't
going to be anything bigger than that right so probably ohio state was like the most nerve-wracking
yeah just because of the content so like like i don't know if like you ever like if your team
ever won like a late second field goal.
Yeah, I snapped a few of those.
But that didn't compare to just the context of the Ohio State game.
No, not really.
Because like I said, after that I knew I could do it.
And I knew there was nothing that would compare to that amount of pressure.
Even like I snapped a few last second field goals and stuff like that.
But where we won is time expired.
But I was just so confident.
I'm him.
I have nothing to worry about.
Have you ever gotten the snapping yips in practice?
You're just like, I just lost my fastball.
I just don't have it today, boys.
Sorry.
No.
Really?
I would always – they kind of just let me pace myself.
I could kind of just do what I wanted.
So how many D1 schools did you actually end up playing for overall, like total?
Yeah, I think you missed the last one.
We're at Nevada so far.
Yeah, so anyways, like, after the bowl, I try to, like, talk with the coach.
And, like I said, he didn't really like me from, I guess, that joke.
So, like, he wouldn't talk to me.
Like, he wouldn't open his door.
I texted him.
I called him. Like, he wouldn't, like, get me he wouldn't open his door. I texted him. I called him.
Like he wouldn't like get me back.
So I was just like, screw it.
Like I'm leaving.
Yeah.
They wouldn't even look for your daughter.
Yeah.
They would never look.
They would look for that dog.
Yeah.
They wouldn't look for your wife.
So you write, you write.
Jesus.
You write all your own comedy, huh?
Thanks for bringing me here.
Sorry.
You have an ugly wife.
So, so coach didn't fuck with you.
You said, I'm out.
Yeah, I literally just said, whatever.
Like, I'm leaving.
Is the portal around yet at this time?
Yeah, the portal's around.
Really, really quick.
How does that work for the portal?
Do you just log into a website?
Well, you don't do anything.
Yeah, you don't do anything.
Like, as a player, you just kind of go talk to your coach,
be like, hey, I'm leaving.
Then they send you to compliance.
You tell compliance.
Then compliance will just put you in the portal
within 24 hours.
So it's just like an imaginary thing,
or is it really like an online fucking thing?
No, it's really like a thing
where you can see who's in it.
It's like a human meat market for colleges.
It's mostly just for coaches, really.
Players really can't log into it. So they put you in there. So they put me into it, it but like it's like a human meat market it's mostly just for like coaches really yeah like
players so they put you in there so they put me into it but like essentially like payton winstead
who played at leesville he played ecu he kind of got me in touch well he he talked to ecu coaches
like for me since we were friends yeah it was like hey if this guy gets in a portal will you
let him come and they're like uh yeah like we're losing our guy started you
know 25 games or whatever in college like we'll take them right and so anyways that was just like
all right i'm just going home i'm going to ecu you know my dad played baseball at ecu so you're
fired up like fuck yeah i'm gonna be a pirate yeah because i grew up going to all the games so like
ecu is where like i always wanted to play i always wanted to end up. And so I go to ECU.
Everything's going good with, you know, winter workouts.
I mean, I'm crushing it.
You know, I hit 315 and benched pretty easy that day.
And, like, everyone went crazy.
I hit, like, 430 in squat.
Jesus.
Hell, yeah.
And then I forgot what my power clean was.
It was, like, like 275 285 but like the strength coaches and the head
coach and stuff are like well this guy's you know legit yeah so we're getting ready to go to spring
ball in two weeks like we found him we found him boys oh yeah so i was like you know i didn't even
go to spring break that year.
Like, I was just like locked in.
You were working.
I'm like, I'm ready for spring ball.
Like, I'm going to start this year.
Everything's going to be good.
Anyways, that's when COVID hits.
Oh, the COVID.
Fucked you over.
So COVID hit.
And so everything was kind of up in air, which, you know, I was training.
That's bullshit, man.
I ended up making like an in-home gym. Got some weights. Got a barbell. I ended up making, like, an in-home gym.
Got some weights.
Got a barbell.
I was able to, like, maintain most of my strength.
Wake up.
And my friend has a – my dad's friend has, like, a gym.
So, like, he would let me go there and squat heavy and bench heavy, like,
once a week, twice a week.
So I was able to, like, keep all my strength up.
And anyways, we go back in June. And uh season's kind of like it might happen might not
and uh anyways you know they said we're having a season and uh it was so like on and off and
shit like yeah so it was like oh we're gonna have it and they're like oh no it's getting worse it
was weird because you know we had practiced for a couple of days.
Then suddenly we get COVID and had to close it down.
Then we practiced a couple more days, COVID.
So, I mean, I remember like, you know, we would just go to the beach.
You know, we're an hour from the beach.
We'd always just go to the beach.
The practice got canceled for two or three days.
Just go stay at the beach, stay at a friend's house.
Yeah.
And then, you know, just come back down for practice.
So, it was like, it was really weird because really it it was like you're basically just working out on your own the whole
the whole uh yeah the whole time it wasn't it wasn't really like structured right you had to
force yourself to do it if you wanted that spot back yeah so anyways you know fall camp gets here
and uh at this point you know we go we get through fall camp yeah three weeks go by we're supposed to play marshall in
like 12 13 days yeah anyways me and my teammates the people i live with were like yo fall camp's
over we're about to throw a huge party so anyways like we throw a huge party like the whole team
gets covid damn shit you fucked the whole team yeah that's it yeah yeah so you know you throw a huge party man it
was funny because like that morning like my throat was kind of sore and i was like i'm just
not gonna say anything my teammates beside me is like hey bro is your throat sore i'm like yeah
it's yours he's like yep and so anyways we all go get tested. We all test positive.
That's tough.
Ain't that a bitch?
But I ended up, once I tested positive, I ended up running into the locker room,
grabbing my shoulder pads and helmet.
So I was able to snap that next, like, two weeks and, like, be prepared once I got back.
Right, right.
But, anyway, so many people got COVID.
Everything was shut down for, like, two weeks.
So, anyways, you know, the game got back. Right, right. But anyway, so many people got COVID. Everything was shut down for like two weeks. So anyways, you know, the game got canceled.
And, you know, we ended up playing our first game like a month later.
We ended up playing nine games.
I started, you know, all the games.
And we had like a, you know, COVID happened,
so we got an extra year of eligibility.
Right.
And so I was like, man, I'm actually going to play two years at ECU.
So like, I'm just super, super pumped. And, uh,
we have a, uh, internship I have to do for my,
for my like program I was in. Yeah. Like a capstone type. Yeah.
So I had to do that, the end, end it. And, uh,
there was no more classes for me to
take, so it was like, I have to do this internship, so I talked to the coach. He's like, it's cool.
We're going to work around it. You're good, right, because I ended up walking for senior day,
and he was like kind of concerned, like, bro, like, why are you leaving? You have another year.
This is your school, and I was just like, yeah, but like, you know, I got this internship. He's
just like, it's fine. We'll work around it. So anyways, internship starts.
I start at like December 1st, like as soon as like I could
because I wanted to be done for spring ball.
So you had graduated already?
I haven't graduated.
Once I do this, I graduate.
Oh, okay.
So I knock out four weeks in December.
I'd knock out two weeks in January,
and then winter workouts are starting up.
So I have six weeks left of winter workouts that I have to do with it so I told him the deal and
he's like just go talk to the strength coach and so all right cool strength coach is basically like
he sets my workout plan Monday Wednesday Friday I lift at 7 30 then I can go to do my internship
after that so I'm like all right cool he Tuesday, Thursday, don't worry about the running. You're just a long snapper. You know, it doesn't really matter.
Yeah. So I was like, all right, cool. You shouldn't be the guy to tackle the guy.
Yeah. Yeah. So he was basically just telling me, I want you to do a good job in this. It's
important. You need a good grade. So anyways, like I go to workouts the first two or three
days or whatever. And, uh, then the strength coach is like hey like
you can't do this anymore and i'm like why he's like it's just how it is so basically i found out
like a week later like he wants me to go at 9 30 to lift with the specialist which i and then he
wants me back at 2 30 for you know afternoon meetings but it's like when am i supposed to do
my internship yeah so basically like the head coach wouldn't, like, work with me with it.
Even though he told to let the strength coach to do it,
but he wouldn't let me work with it.
And so.
It just didn't work out.
It just didn't work out.
So was this finally the end of the career or what, man?
Yeah, man.
So it's kind of just like, well.
That was the end of the college career?
Yeah, basically.
I was like, you know, I'm done.
Yeah.
You know.
So how many total D1 schools was?
Hang on, hang on.
We're not at the end.
Yeah, we're not at the end yet.
Oh, so not the end of the college career.
I got one based on his Instagram that I'm super excited to talk about,
and I have a couple questions regarding this school coming up.
I feel like it's got to be coming up.
Oh, yeah.
It's got to be coming up.
Well, that's why i asked
so it's not the end yeah so i thought it was the end all right and uh this is basically just like
a hail mary really so you know i get in the portal in mid-january i finished my internship yeah so i
go back to the coach i'm like hey i'm done with my internship i want to join back the team he's
like nah like you messed up i'm like you know i'll do anything with my internship. I want to join back the team. He's like, nah, like, you messed up.
I'm like, you know, I'll do anything you need me to do.
I'll do any extra conditioning.
I was like, I literally run to stadiums every single day to our first game.
Like, I want to be here.
ECU's my school.
He's just like, well, you should have thought about that before you, you know.
Before you had to do it.
Graduate.
Yeah, before I had to get my fucking education.
Yeah, so.
Lord forbid I'm a student athlete.
Nah, man, it's an athlete student.
That's what they should call it.
I didn't come here to read.
Nope.
So anyways, he let a kid get a DUI and rejoin the team after he missed all the winter workouts.
That's stupid.
And he let a kid smoke weed, set the alarm on fire in his apartment building,
and then the guy cussed the coach out,
but he's like, here, you can come back.
But then for me, doing my internship, get out of here.
We don't want your smart people on this damn football team.
Yeah.
You're too green, bud.
Anyways, you know, Maryland, Terrapins, you know,
University of Maryland, they get in touch with me.
And they were kind of like interested and not interested, interested.
And so like I thought I was going to Maryland through the spring,
and then they kind of like bounced out on me.
And anyways, it's like North Carolina Central hits me up.
And so like I think I'm going to North Carolina Central.
Yeah.
I tried to give you this.
Oh, no shit.
Go ahead.
You don't get it now.
So I think I'm going to Central.
And I kind of have a thought.
At this time, I don't have Instagram.
I don't have Twitter.
I don't have anything.
Oh, you deleted it? I was done with it. I just was not on it. Big this time, I don't have Instagram. I don't have Twitter. I don't have anything. Oh, you deleted it?
I was done with it.
I just was not on it.
Big Rob was going at me.
Taking you away from your grind.
He was going MIA, baby.
I was.
You don't see me often.
I got rid of it in 2017.
You archived all them pictures, though, so you can bring them back.
You've got to keep my camera rolling.
Come on.
Well, actually, some of them earlier pictures, like,
these girls, like, made up for me.
Because they're like, you need an Instagram.
Like, you're weird if you don't have one.
So, like, they kind of made me one.
So I had one, but I, like, never got on it.
That's fine.
And, but anyways, like I said, I was on social media since, like,
2017 to, like, 2021.
So I was like, I might should, like, download some Instagram,
start messaging coaches right and
so i uh rice yeah so rice gets in touch with me texas state gets in touch with me and they're
kind of like eh you know we kind of want you to come we kind of don't it's kind of like
maybe maybe not so i send a dm to this the offensive coordinator at Louisiana and
you know and I know these guys
get thousands of messages
so it's just like
it was a shot
it was just a shot in the dark dude
and like dude messaged
me back and he's like yeah bro we need a
snapper and I was just like
he follows me back on Instagram and this time I have like
no picture on there or anything like I have like 7 followers and he follows me back on Instagram. And this time I have like no picture on there or anything. Like I have like seven followers and he follows me back.
He has like 20,000 followers, you know?
So it was crazy that you saw it.
It was all God, you know what I mean?
And it's just like, it's just crazy.
Cause he messages me back and then he like, here, I'm going to get,
what's your number?
I'm going to give it to the special teams coach, give him my number,
special teams coach.
Like I'm at the gym working out,
and I get this, like, random call, and it's, like, at 9 o'clock in the morning,
and it's, like, the special teams coach at Louisiana.
So I, like, talk to him, and at this point, like I said,
I'm either going to North Carolina Central or I'm not playing.
And he's just like, hey, you know, we want you to come, yada, yada, yada.
Head coach gets on the phone
he's like hey bro like we really want you i don't really care how many schools you've been to i'm
just like when can i come i'm ready to come it's like that's not really much convincing you know
i'm like dude i just want to play ball i want to play d1 like let's roll and so anyways he loved
my you know he loved my enthusiasm and stuff and uh so I ended up going down like a week and a half later
and starting summer workouts there.
And, you know, the rest is history.
You know, started all the games there.
You were a raging Cajun.
Oh, yeah.
So that's definitely the team I claim.
You know, I finished up there.
Yeah.
I enjoyed it the most there.
You know, we had the most success there.
I met the best friends of anywhere else, you know, I've been there.
Yeah.
Besides, you know, had a couple good friends at Nevada.
Yeah.
You know, my friend Caitlin, you know, we're still friends today.
We're pretty tight. And then Holton at ECU and Josh at ECU. You know, those are Caitlin, you know, we're still friends today. We're pretty tight.
And then Holton at ECU and Josh at ECU.
You know, those are my two best friends there.
Yeah.
So, like, besides them, I mean.
Louisiana is where you met your homies.
That's where the boy.
The Bayou boys.
I love it down there, man.
I would definitely move down there.
That's what I was going to ask you, like, the culture of Louisiana.
You got the whole Theo Vaughn vibes going with the mullet.
Oh, yeah.
But a funny thing was is they played Coastal that previous year,
and so a lot of their guys had blonde mullets.
Yeah.
And so, you know, I had a mullet since 2019, and, you know,
before they got big.
And Brian Bosworth, wholahoma in the 80s
he had a blonde mullet so i was always talking about like dye my hair blonde and so i was like
screw it i'm gonna do it so i dyed my hair blonde and then i found out i was going to louisiana and
once i got down there they're like bro like you got to cut your hair like you know they hate the
blonde mullets you know coastal has them like You'd be looking like Stale Cracker down there.
You know him?
No.
Oh, that's money, dude.
That's money.
Oh, yeah.
He's in Louisiana.
Yeah, so.
So you're a raging Cajun for life.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Nice.
Hell, yeah.
Okay, I know I've asked this like four times.
So how many D1 schools?
Well, I started at four, and I played i played at six played at six d1 college programs
oh yeah d1 rob he always said he would make it and damn it he did i know you were using and
abusing that transfer portal oh yeah you were a whore in that transfer there were definitely some
coaches were like oh my god this whoring guy again how many times are we to see his fucking name i know this guy really wants to
snap like no honestly hilarious i think uh like if you're gonna fucking like if you're an athlete
right and you play football for instance like and you can't really find your niche like your
position like you might be average here average there subpar there you might need to
try long all these people i think i think there's a stigma is that the word stigma yeah that's a good
word long snap everyone's like oh that's like long snapping like who does that but bro you you could
go d1 you could go d1 quicker than the y receiver. Oh, yeah. 100%. Because there's a billion wide receivers that are all fucking great.
That's what I'm trying to tell my –
If you make long snapping your thing, then, like, yeah.
It's an easy position, man.
A lot of people don't really think about it.
And, you know, I have a little cousin who's going into his junior year,
and that's when I learned how to snap.
And I'm trying to tell him, like, he's a good athlete.
He's played football his whole life.
You know, he's more athletic than I am.
And I'm telling him, like, listen, man, you need to snap.
Like, that is the –
Like, cut the shit.
That's the money position.
You want the fame and whatever, but –
You just don't want to do it, you know.
He wants to play tight end and linebacker and receiver or, you know, whatever. And you got to be, like, one of one to, like,
I feel like even make it D1 in those type of skill positions.
It's insane how, like, athletic these guys are.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, Cole.
Yeah.
Like, these guys are just how elite Cole was, man.
Like, these guys are just so much more elite than he was.
Like, I thought he was, like, a four-, five-star recruit.
Yeah, man.
Like, back when we were playing, I was like, this man's going D1,
like, wherever he wants.
He was an animal, man.
Yeah.
And my freshman year at Tulsa, that's when it, like, really hit me,
like, how athletic these guys were because there was a quarterback
that was a freshman with me named Luke Skipper.
Skipper. And his,
his like senior year of high school,
he threw for like 3,500 yards and he ran for 1,500 yards and like 70
touchdowns.
Jesus.
And I'm like,
why is this guy not playing a Bama?
You know what I mean?
Right.
So that's when like,
it really hit me.
Like these dudes are like shit.
It's different.
Yeah.
Rob,
do you remember,
um,
do you remember in high school
when uh colstad was like all right there was one there was one person that made it to every single
uh football workout for the entire year for the entire offseason and you got you were pissed at
me because it was only you and me left you and i were the last two people that hadn't missed a
single offseason football workout and you had you had something like stupid come up you had like a fucking doctor's
appointment that you had to go to and you're like i have to miss this workout and i was like i'm
finally gonna be the only one that went to every fucking one and cole said like said something
about it at the end of the seat or at the end of like workouts and like gave me like a hoodie or
some shit and you're like fuck you austin like you're like i
was right there i had a doctor's appointment i was like i'm sorry big rob man i was so jealous man
i really wanted that hoodie
did you ever bump into did you ever bump into little bussy in louisiana
no i didn't i wish i did so, like, snuck in the concerts because, like,
there was a gym that's called, like, the Cajun Dome.
And so, like, the coaches had, like, these passes and stuff,
and they would, like, leave them around if they left and stuff.
So we would, like, grab these passes.
They're, like, all-access passes.
And so, like, me and, like, the specialists, you know, me, Breeze, Tommy,
we would all, like, hold these passes up and just walk in,
and people would just be, like, you know, just come on through. So, like, we would sneak in backstage, like, all these, like, Tommy, we would all, like, hold these passes up and just walk in, and people would just be like, you know, just come on through.
So, like, we would sneak in backstage to, like, all these, like, concerts.
That's hilarious.
Like, we could do that to, like, any concert we wanted.
Any, like, Harlem Globetrotters came.
We could do it for that.
Any sporting event that came there.
That's pretty wild.
It was pretty funny.
So what's next?
You got anything on the horizon football-wise or anything?
Anything exciting coming up?
Probably XFL.
XFL.
Oh, yeah.
This guy.
Good for you, man.
The dream isn't dead yet, huh?
Not yet, man.
The goal is to play for, you know, hometown team, Carolina Panthers.
Try to get there one day.
Hell, yeah.
Going to the XFL, that's crazy.
That'll be an experience.
You'll be a professional football player. Oh, yeah. That to the XFL, that's crazy. That'll be an experience. You'll be a professional football player.
Oh, yeah.
That's crazy.
That'd be cool.
Is there any, like, household names that, like, people would know watching that currently play in the XFL?
I'm sure there's some, like, that aren't currently in the NFL, but maybe were or, like, just, like, really popular college players. Last year in the XFL, or no, the USFL, that Turpin guy who was like,
he started for the Cowboys.
He played USFL and then went to the Cowboys.
Oh, no shit.
What's the US, what is that?
The USFL.
Is it like a different league?
It's pretty much the same thing, just different names.
It started under like COVID and then folded.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
So I'm going to try to do one of those two.
Yeah, that'll be a good time for sure.
I don't know any certain names right now,
but you got a bunch of guys that played in the NFL
and went down there and now trying to make it back.
And you can get straight up drafted from there to the league, right?
Pretty much like free agent.
Oh, just free agent.
Yeah.
I guess unless you were just like such a dog.
So did you go to the combine did you go to a combine um yeah i did the
pro day at louisiana okay so that was was that a good time oh yeah what kind of numbers did you
put up what uh what was the um i heard that vert was pretty high yeah like 34 hey come on now
snapper dunking on people out there you probably could dunk that's great probably at the time i'm probably
about at 24 right now no this dude big rob said he said yeah man like i just straight up just
just just jumped for like three months straight like i know my trainer she really got me right
like everyone's kind of laughing you know i had a girl trainer and stuff what's her name shout her out uh kim shout out kim oh yeah got your buddies back she was best trainer i
probably ever had honestly nice like got me right with a 40 got me right with what was that 40 time
that's all you need to say it was sub five you know she really got me right though for real like
people were laughing stuff like oh you got a girl trainer like what do you mean all professional athletes named you have girl
trainers nah man like a lot of them went to all these like high class you know training facilities
and you know paying thousands of dollars and i literally just went and paid this
lady like 30 a session at some little gym in Louisiana in the middle of nowhere.
She got you to put up numbers.
Oh, yeah.
How many times were you putting up 225?
You know, 40.
Shit.
No, you weren't.
40.
No, 20, 25.
That's pretty damn solid.
Fucking A.
He's still in the 225 club, believe it or not.
Yeah, I can probably hit it one time
right now he can try to get two maybe one day i think the most i ever got was four and a half
four and a half yeah you're throwing that bitch up 20 something times oh yeah he's a body look
at this do you do you know your uh your fastest ball snapping usually from like Are you like MLB speed? Like low.66
so like.61
seconds from when I snap at the 15
yards. No shit.
Yeah, 6'1", 6'2", somewhere around there.
What's like the NFL time?
Yeah, around there. That's fucking crazy.
So hold on, I just want to make sure
I'm understanding this right. So when the ball
leaves your hands? That's when
the motion starts. That's when the motion starts.
That's when they start it.
Okay.
That's pretty fucking fast.
So.
Well, boys, do we have any more questions for my man?
We have anything else to talk about?
Yes.
Anything to wrap up?
Real quick.
I'm just, this is just as a fan of you.
As a fan.
Clearly, I'm fanned out right now um who was the best player
your team or you have went up against total like over over the course of your college like
the best fucking player where you're like dude like seeing him in person was like fucking dog
like do you have one in mind that sticks out or no? Well, yeah, I mean, Joe Burrow.
I mean, he wasn't Joe Burrow then, but, you know, played against him.
He still was Joe Shiesty, though.
You know, they had Terry McLaurin.
That man's nasty.
They had Michael Thomas.
Is that all just Ohio State?
Yeah, I mean, we played against Justin Herbert from Oregon.
No shit. Let's see. Did you ever play Michigan? No, we never played them Justin Herbert from Oregon. No shit.
Let's see.
Did you ever play Michigan?
No, we never played them. At the big house, baby.
That would have been pretty cool.
Yeah, for sure.
Michigan State, y'all might have got jumped in the locker room.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
They don't discipline their players, obviously.
That head coach was our defensive coordinator at UGA.
Actually.
That's hilarious.
Yeah, Mel Tucker.
Mel Tucker.
He got paid.
He did, man.
And then he won like three games last year after he got 100 mil.
That motherfucker got paid.
We respect the bag getters out there.
Yeah, get your money.
Fuck it.
Shout out to Mel Tucker.
Fuck it.
All right, boys.
I had a good time.
You guys have a good time?
I've got something.
Walker, what you got?
I was in Boston all week for work.
And I arrive in Boston with my coworker.
We get in the Uber.
We're headed over to the hotel.
The Uber stops.
There's a bunch of cops everywhere.
And the entire street's blocked off.
And I was like, all right, well, I guess we'll just get out here.
And we walk.
We walk to our hotel. And I look out, all right, well, I guess we'll just get out here. We walk. We walk to our hotel.
I look out on the street.
And some dude had thrown himself off the building across the street from our hotel.
You pulled up to somebody unaliving themselves.
Literally unaliving themselves.
They had the sheet and everything covering them.
And I was like, what a great way to start off my trip in boston r.i.p to that person
great way to end the pod checking on your friends everyone i guess we're ending this one on a dark
note thanks i had to bring it down after so much happiness yeah thanks thanks for that walker
all right boys well big rob we really really appreciate you coming here and uh doing this
podcast with us um did we miss anything we
got it all i think we got it left it all out there boys uh hold on big rob do you got anything you
want to say shout out your instagram are you currently like portaled out or like shout oh
yeah about that about that i was going to say earlier so last year when i was in uh florida
me and my cousin were living together.
My cousin, you know, we kind of got like the same kind of facial structure and stuff,
about the same height, you know, same color hair.
So I thought about, you know, because last year I didn't get a chance with the NFL.
I got passed by on the XFL.
So I was thinking, what if I decided to use your identity to play careful what you say
don't stitch on yourself to play another year yeah to play another four years another oh another
four years you're trying to do another four yeah so i was thinking like you know maybe i could uh
30 i could get to 10 d1 colleges by then that's what what I'm saying. So like, you know. Just have to commit fraud,
but could be worth it.
Yeah, because there was a small amount of fraud.
If it gets you to the league,
it's worth it.
Another four years,
I could really probably get it.
Really lock it in.
League bound or bust.
You could be one of those 28-year-old rookies.
You guys should check this video out.
There's a guy who played at University of Texas,
and he did that.
He used somebody's identity.
No shit.
To do like another four years.
That's crazy.
He actually got by with it for three and a half years,
and then they found out that he was a fraud.
So I was thinking, I could grow out a beard, shave the mullet.
Get away with it?
Probably get away with it, yeah.
That's crazy.
We'll be watching your career with great interest.
We'll keep tabs.
We'll see where you end up.
We'll see you on another D1 college campus or maybe in the XFL.
Smoke another victory cigar.
Hopefully XFL.
Yes, sir.
Good luck to you.
Best of luck to you.
My vote's for Roughnecks.
Oh, yeah.
All right, boys.
Well, thanks for tuning in to another episode of Always Laugh Podcast.
My name's Austin Lane.
My name is AJ.
I'm going D1 next year uh my name is walker hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
and this was big rob we out love you people