American Alchemy with Jesse Michels - The Wall Street Journal Is Gaslighting You On UFOs

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Starting point is 00:00:35 the well runs kind of deep. You've got the pangling wet market theory around COVID's origins, the whole Saddam Hussein had WMD's thing, the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story, calling Ivermectin horse dewormer when hundreds of millions of people take it a year, I could go on for many days. But the Wall Street Journal just released an article called the Pentagon Disinformation that fueled America's U.S.

Starting point is 00:01:00 UFO mythology that truly takes the cake. I have to say, I agree with aspects of the headline. The Pentagon is running a UFO disinformation campaign. I think this article is part of that disinformation campaign. One of the article's primary sources is Susan Goff, whose own LinkedIn, along with independent sources, confirms her lead role in Booz Allen Hamilton's psychological operations consulting practice for the Department of Defense. Her self-professed skills include strategic communication

Starting point is 00:01:37 and psychological operations. In summary, this article says that UFOs are entirely explained by two things. Electromagnetic pulses or EMPs that the American government secretly decided to use on our own nuclear missiles and Air Force hazing rituals. Let's tackle the first one. Good afternoon. My name is Robert Salas. On March 24, 1967, Robert Salas, a first lieutenant stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base, said he received a call from top side guards saying that they had seen strange lights in the sky making odd maneuvers.

Starting point is 00:02:24 The men are stationed in the missile launch bunker, 60 feet below ground. He called back about five minutes later. This time he was screaming into the phone saying they're looking at an object. a red glowing object hovering just above our front gate. All 10 missiles were off alert. All 10. Whole flight was off alert. All red.

Starting point is 00:02:49 Salas even had a colleague present named Bob Jameson, who backed up his testimony on record with Larry King. Is it possible they just malfunctioned? That doesn't happen. Very rarely does a missile malfunction. Much more rare would be two at the same time, but never 10. In fact, the guy who most thoroughly documents the man. Malmstrom case in 1967 is the author of the great book UFOs and nukes. His name is Robert

Starting point is 00:03:15 Hastings, and he is the authoritative chronicler of 167 Q- cleared nuclear base employees that have all witnessed UFOs. Classified U.S. government documents and witness testimony from former or retired U.S. military personnel confirmed beyond any doubt the reality of ongoing UFO and cursory. In many cases, these UFOs have tampered with various nuclear sites across the country. Strangely enough, Bob Hastings figured out the connection between UFOs and nuclear weapons because his father was stationed at Malmstrom Nuclear Base in 1967. In high school, Hastings worked as a janitor there,

Starting point is 00:04:02 and a radar operator who took young Hastings under his wing, called the 16-year-old over, to show him that the base was actually tracking what they called knowns at the time. That's the formal term for unidentified objects. I saw five blips in the sort of northeast quadrant of his radar scope. A local truck driver in Montana and police officer are also on record, having seen the UFO in the area. In 1993, a missile technician named John Mills stationed at Malmstrom also saw UFOs

Starting point is 00:04:37 on his way back to the base. When he returned, officers there said the base had been swarm. There are tons of sightings in and around Malmstrom. On the UFO thing, I was working for the Forest Service, not too far from Malmstrom Air Force Base. One day I was up there in a Forest Service pickup truck at a certain campground, and I was there, and suddenly I look up, and I say suddenly it was just in the sky.

Starting point is 00:05:03 I became aware that it was up there, and I looked up. There was this huge, spheroidal, you know, but elliptical, not a perfect spheroid. a saucer that was turned partially on its side. These occur to this day. So anyways, this Wall Street Journal reporter named Joel Schechtman writes that this was all a secret EMP or electromagnetic pulse experiment, seeing if the U.S. could shut down our own nukes with people present, as if that's not incredibly dangerous and reckless and has any precedent.

Starting point is 00:05:39 I think that Schechtman, or one of his sources, is making this up. even documentation from Malmstrom's Strategic Air Command itself, saying that they were extremely puzzled around the event and that they had no idea what was going on. They were so puzzled that they paid Boeing to come out and investigate what had happened. Boeing was also puzzled. So again, back to this idea that this was a super secret EMP that no one knew about, and it was an EMP tested on our own nuclear weapons with people present. Bob Salas responded to this claim. Quote unquote, it would have been irresponsible and unthinkable for the U.S. Air Force to jeopardize the operational status of these weapons.

Starting point is 00:06:21 The EMP generator equipment would have involved a prolonged installation process in plain sight of our security team. Again, this is the same security team that expressed extreme fear to Robert Salas due to the fact that a glowing red object was hovering around the base and making right angle turns. For whatever reason, none of this testimony made it into this article. But perhaps most damningly, I mean the real nail in the coffin for this, is that EMPs weren't even a thing until the 70s, and no documents have ever suggested that the U.S. has ever used them against our own active nuclear weapons with people in the vicinity. As my friend and journalist Merrick von Rennonkamp eloquently points out, as Merrick tweeted,

Starting point is 00:07:04 the Wall Street Journal is suggesting that technicians somehow moved a 60-foot science experiment up to the front gate of an alert, missile facility undetected, and then they fried the active nukes. This is a joke, right? And then you have the fact that EMPs don't usually do reversible damage. They take out all electronics in their vicinity. These missiles came back online. Maybe you could argue that EMPs can at times cause temporary downtime. But we definitely didn't have the ability to use EMPs this precisely before they were even operational. That's an insane claim that I don't even think the Wall Street Journal would pretend to defend. There are literally no logs or records anywhere from Malmstrom or any employees of that

Starting point is 00:07:50 base saying these missiles didn't come back online. So they didn't just take out 10 missiles with an EMP and then turn them back on. That's extremely basic physics that Sean Kirkpatrick, a supposed physicist and the head of Arrow, the All-Domain Anomalies Resolution Office, who clearly spoon-fed all of this bad information to Joel Sheckman, a man who needs to up his fact-checking game, Should know. Okay, and then you have this second claim that the article makes, that Air Force hazing rituals explain widespread UFO mythology. Can someone please, for the love of God, explain documents from the Air Force dating back to 1949 discussing an emergency meeting around

Starting point is 00:08:35 UFOs and nukes, taking place at killing base camps with the Army CIC, FBI, Office of Naval Intelligence, and CIA present. This FBI document discussing the same UFO and nuclear connection, or in 1947, General Nathan Twining, responsible for all aircraft development in the Air Force at the time, saying that UFOs are not visionary or fictitious. Tell me how debunking one nuclear UFO-related case in 1967 explains a town in Japan, next to their nuclear civilian grid in Fukushima, where the residents have frequent sightings and are obsessed with UFOs, or at Baroloche, Argentina, next to their civilian grid, where a commercial pilot in 1995 literally couldn't land the plane due to an outage and a UFO

Starting point is 00:09:21 chasing his plane. What about Bob Jacobs' citing in 1964 at Vandenberg, where he was removed as a government employee despite having managed over 130 people? They denied that he ever worked there, until later, his superior, Major Mansman, admitted that he did work there a couple decades later. My officer efficiency reports are in there. By the way, I've seen Bob Jacobs' DD-214. He definitely worked at Vandenberg.

Starting point is 00:09:47 So Jacobs and all these other nuclear base employees, Mario Woods, all of these people that I've interviewed have been hazed for 70 years by our own government. For what? They faked UFOs harassed these people. In Jacob's case, they blew up his mailbox and fucked with him endlessly. He gets a phone call one night, he and his wife, the voice says, your mailbox is a light,

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Starting point is 00:12:22 disrupted for their speaking out about this issue, or mental health has been disrupted by optical illusions in the sky or whatever hazing rituals this article is proposing, should be granted millions of dollars for being hazed by our own government. David Grush, who experienced serious reprisals while in government and was dragged through the mud at the National Geospatial Agency, should receive a large check in the mail. Surely we should have some church committee-style hearings about these egregious acts committed by our own government. And I'm certain, Joel Schechtman and everybody else involved in the writing of this article would support that. I'm not so sure they would. See, perhaps this

Starting point is 00:13:06 personal story is most telling and indicative of where the Wall Street Journal is really coming from. Last year, my friend Carl Nell, Army representative of the UAP Task Force and founder of Army Futures Command, who helped spearhead many of the Army's most important tech modernization efforts, wrote an op-ed intended for the Wall Street Journal. The opinion piece was co-authored by a former cabinet member. You heard me right. Like presidential cabinet member, the essay expressed a deep frustration at the lack of transparency and civilian oversight with UFO-related programs in government.

Starting point is 00:13:43 Again, a cabinet member co-authored this. And lest you think I'm making this. up, I'm not the only person aware of this article besides Nell. Senate Intelligence Committee staffer Kirk McConnell, whose politics, I don't always agree with, is also fully clued in about this opinion piece. And we also have emails between Carl Nell and the Wall Street Journal about it. It is a fact that this article was written and it was proposed for publication, but the op-ed section refused to publish this article for no apparent reason. Serendipitously, I had just met a very friendly vice president at News Corp, which owns the Wall-Ewe.

Starting point is 00:14:18 Wall Street Journal. So I offered to help advocate for the publication of this op-ed by getting an introduction to one of the managing editors of the Wall Street Journal's opinion section. This woman was named Lena Bell. She was very nice and earnest, and I have no reason to believe she cares about anything but the truth. We had a great exchange. I even met her in person at the Wall Street Journal headquarters. I told her about my own interest in the subject. I suggested that it would be great if more mainstream credentialed journalists were interested. I even said that she should read UFOs and nukes by Robert Hastings if she wanted to learn more about the government's history with UFOs. We... Ambition comes in all shapes and sizes. At First Citizens Bank, we roll with your goals because we're built for what you're building.

Starting point is 00:15:06 Fit for your ambition. First Citizens Bank. She followed up, but it seemed like she was powerless in helping getting this opinion piece published. There was some undetectable dark matter at play, stopping this opinion piece. from getting published. Just think about it. Even if you can't fully verify that there's a hidden UFO program,

Starting point is 00:15:27 obviously that's a tall order, shouldn't a former cabinet member saying anything about unidentified flying objects immediately be worthy of publication? Even if you then run a story saying that that former cabinet member is crazy. When I politely expressed my confusion around this, I was told something very telling.

Starting point is 00:15:46 Lena told me that a guy named David Spurgel is their de facto advisor on UFOs, and he says that UFOs are all space trash, light reflections, and temperature inversions. This is almost exactly what past UFO debunkers, like Don Menzel would say in the 50s. First of all, the objects are not unidentified. We know what they are. Menzel happened to hold extremely high clearances at the NSA, CIA, and Navy. He was also caught destroying astronomical records by fellow astronomer Dorit Hofflight as she documents in her biography. In 1953, Donald Menzel also stopped the astronomers at Harvard to carry out their very famous sky survey where they were monitoring the entire sky.

Starting point is 00:16:30 He also had apparently some more later episodes of late destruction I've heard. But I digress. Who is this David Spurgel? The head of the Simon's Foundation, a guy named Dr. David Spurgel, he was tapped to be the chair of the NASA UAP working group. Yeah, a working group that sort of says, you know, nothing to see here. Like, we'll keep an open mind, but there's probably nothing here, which I find interesting. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I have no smoking gun. It just seems quite a curious set of coincidences.

Starting point is 00:17:00 And you look at what else Jim Simons was really engaged in, right? He set up the Simon's Foundation, which is probably like one of the leading private sector sources of philanthropic funding for fundamental science research. And his, you know, guy running his private research. Research Foundation and Fundamental Physics gets tapped to run the UAP working group for NASA. Yeah. Weinstein is on Rogan actively speculating that this is housing a sort of secret physics program involving all the top differential geometers in the U.S. What do you think, Matthew?

Starting point is 00:17:32 I mean, if such a thing were to exist, that's exactly where it would exist. Yeah. And who knows? Maybe Spurgel has nothing to do with UFOs. Maybe the Wall Street Journal genuinely believes the bullshit about EMPs they're promoting. it. But it's just so weird to me that they've been working on a UFO-related story for months and neglected to mention that a cabinet member was involved in a UFO-related op-ed proposal that they received last year. So bad faith acting and competence, I'll let you decide. I'll just

Starting point is 00:18:06 end on this note. If UFOs are all just some fake, multi-decade-long hazing ritual, then nobody should have any issue with the impending UAP Disclosure Act. Who cares if we have civilian oversight over programs that don't exist? And hopefully when the UAP Disclosure Act goes up for vote again, Sean Kirkpatrick won't lobby against it like he did last time. So on that note, I'm linking a petition below that you will hopefully all sign in support of the UAP Disclosure Act. This will ensure civilian congressional oversight over UFOs

Starting point is 00:18:40 and elect an elite presidential board to help push disclosure. This Wall Street Journal article is true. truly so bad that I am almost inclined to believe it is a pro-UFO conspiracy. So please Wall Street Journal do better next time. We need better debunkers. I'm not anti-debunking. There's plenty of bullshit in UFO world, a lot of which I cover. I'm just anti-bad, lazy debunking.

Starting point is 00:19:05 And if Joel Schechtman or Sean Kirkpatrick or Susan Goff or any of these people want to come on my show or debate me in any context and discuss any of this in a civil way, I'd be happy to host them. Surely it would help promote this article, and if the article's contents are true, they can back all this stuff up. I suspect I won't hear back about that invitation. And that's probably the most frustrating thing about these people.

Starting point is 00:19:29 They only hit you with these cheap shots from afar. They never actually show up and meet you face to face. So again, open invite. I've also messaged Lena Bell expressing a desire to write an op-ed rebuttal in the Wall Street Journal. If she says yes, I'll let Robert Hastings, Carl Nell, David Grush, Merrick von Rennancamp, Michael Schellenberger, and anyone else contribute and co-author this paper with me. Because surely the Wall Street Journal wants that in the name of having an open and honest,

Starting point is 00:19:56 Socratic debate. Until next time, for hopefully a more aspirational and positive episode, I'm Jesse Michaels, and this is American Alphemy.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels - The Wall Street Journal Is Gaslighting You On UFOs

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