American Homicide - S1: E20 – Louisiana Love Triangle, Part 1

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

After Thomas Talley was gunned down on the driveway of his Louisiana home, the police quickly identified and arrested the suspect. But the results of Thomas’ autopsy reveal some surprising information about how Thomas died.  Reach out to the American Homicide team by emailing us: [e-mail]. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to the Criminalia Podcast. I'm Maria Tremorchi. And I'm Holly Fry. Together, we invite you into the dark and winding corridors of historical true crime. Each season, we explore a new theme from poisoners to art thieves. We uncover the secrets of history's most interesting figures, from legal injustices to body snatching. And tune in at the end of each episode as we indulge in cocktails and mocktails inspired by each story.

Listen to Criminalia on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was big news. I mean, white girl gets murdered, found in a cemetery, big, big news. A long investigation stalls until someone changes their story. I like saw something that happened. An arrest, trial, and conviction soon follow. He did not kill her. There's no way. Is the real killer rightly behind bars or still walking free? Did you kill her? Listen to The Real Killer Season 3 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you hungry?

Colleen Witt here and Eating While Broke is back for season four, every Thursday on the Black Effect podcast network. This season, we've got a legendary lineup serving up broke dishes and even better stories. On the menu, we have Tony Baker, Nick Cannon, Melissa Ford, October London, and Carrie Harper Howie turning Big Macs into big moves. Catch Eating While Broke every Thursday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your favorite shows.

Come hungry for season four. After a night of partying in New Orleans, an angry friend lost control after what he heard. She did say that her husband forced her into having sex with her. When it was all over, one man was dead, and another was in custody. There was a lot of alcohol that went on that night, and we believe probably drugs as well. I believe that's what led to the rage, which led to the shooting there off her husband. But when witness statements didn't match up with the evidence, investigators scrambled

to understand what was true and what was not. And I just thought, this is not how I feel like this went down. And the investigation exposed more than just murder. How they pulled this off is the one thing that amazes me. Today, we're just outside of New Orleans for part one of the Louisiana Love Triangle. I'm Sloane Glass, and this is American Homicide.

Just a note that this episode contains some graphic content. Please take care while listening. On the other side of Lake Pontchartrain is the charming and quiet suburb of Covington, Louisiana. Covington's a nice bedroom community. It's close to New Orleans, so you've got the convenience of the city if you need it with everything that goes with that. Doug Arrowood is a former detective with the Covington Police Department. You'll notice an accent. Detective Arrowood was born in the UK but moved to the States and lived here on and off throughout his life. It's a unique background for a local detective. It's a city where you have almost

mansions that you see in magazines and see on TV and they make your jaw drop but you also have very poor areas of town where people live in little shacks that you wouldn't think chickens would want to live in. So it's got everything from A to Z. As people grow up and out of the party atmosphere of New Orleans, nearby Covington is a great place to start and raise a family. If you want a quieter atmosphere, a slower pace of life, very friendly folks hereabouts, it's a great place to live. You can spend any amount of time here when you bump into somebody that you've not met

before. Within five or ten minutes, you've already got ties with them. That sort of camaraderie gives the city of Covington a small town feel. That's what makes it so interesting, especially as a police officer. You've got that nature of everybody knows everybody. So it is a pretty good chance that when something happens, you know who did that, that's all so-and-so, and you know which way to start looking, which is helpful.

On the morning of December 11, 2004, Covington police dispatcher Heather Jenkins was wrapping up after working the overnight shift. We were getting off at six in the morning and right at shift change, 911 phone rang. The report was that someone honked a horn and that this gentleman came outside and there were gunshots. The call came from a worried resident. We did not have a lot of crime in that subdivision.

When we did, it would be things like a mailbox got smashed or, you know, loud noise, complaints, that type of crime. Within a minute, another call came in, and then another. We had seven regular lines and two 911 lines, and more calls started coming in that there were gunshots and that someone actually was down and had been shot. With each phone call, more details emerged about the shooting. This neighbor could see that someone had been shot and was laying in the driveway.

That someone was Thomas Talley, who lived on Gratitude Drive with his wife Kendra and their two-year-old son. There were other people calling to say that Kendra Talley was outside yelling for help. And neighbors reported seeing a gold-colored Chevy truck flee the scene as Kendra cradled Thomas on the driveway. He was bloodied and wounded, wearing only his pajamas. Kendra Talley was just basically there, kind of freaking out. Anyone would freak out. Imagine how difficult it was for Kendra

to hold her dying husband in her arms. And that happened just as Covington Police and emergency responders arrived at the Talley's home. The ambulance service did arrive and try to save him, but they were not able. Mr. Talley was deceased there in the driveway. The only good news for the investigation was that Thomas's wife Kendra witnessed the whole ordeal. This poor woman has just watched her husband be gunned down. You know, how can we work this situation to get this resolved?

Here's Detective Doug Arrowitt describing the scene. At that point in time, I believe there were four of us as detectives. And once you get a case of that magnitude, all hands on deck. Everybody's coming out, so we're all called out. And there had been a body of that magnitude, all hands on deck. Everybody's coming out. So we're all called out. And there had been a body just laid out on the driveway. Next to Thomas's body, detectives found shards of glass, some spent shell casings,

and, of course, a devastated Kendra. I recall her being obviously very upset, hugging her husband saying, keep breathing, stay with me, stay with me. And worse to that effect. Kendra Talley was 24 years old at the time. She was short and petite with dark reddish hair.

She was obviously a mess. She looked like she'd been out for a couple of nights, which you could probably say that somebody who's been through something as traumatic as that, they're probably going to fall to pieces pretty quickly. The one good thing about Kendra Talley witnessing her husband being shot was that she could tell the detectives what happened. Kendra said the shooter was no stranger, but rather a good friend of her and her husband, a man named Tommy Rowe. Now it gets a little confusing here because both the husband and the shooter have similar

names. So keep in mind that Kendra's husband was Thomas Talley, and the shooter was Tommy Rowe. Tommy Rowe, he'd been a friend of the family. They'd known each other for quite some time. Tommy Rowe lived about 30 miles north of Covington in rural Bugaloosa. He had three children, and was very close with Kendra and Thomas. They spent a lot of time together and they had known Tommy Rowe for years. Even their children all played together.

Tommy Rowe had left the scene and gone to his house. As the police searched for Tommy Rowe, detectives questioned Kendra. She said that she, Tommy Rowe, and some other friends had been out on Bourbon Street while her husband stayed home. Her husband that day had had oral surgery. He's at home recovering. He's just had both wisdom teeth out on the bottom. For those that have had the wisdom teeth out, they know it takes a couple of days to recover from that. And he was in some discomfort. He was under medication. So what happened on Bourbon Street that caused Tommy Rall to go to his friend's house and gun him down? There was a lot of alcohol that went on that night and we

believe probably drugs as well and because of the drugs I believe that's what led to the rage which led to the shooting there of her husband, Thomas Talley. So here's what a devastated Kendra told detectives. Just after the bars closed, Tommy Rowe went into a murderous rage and took it out on her husband. He was going to take care of businesses, what Kendra said. The Covington PD turned their attention to finding the shooter. It was a pretty simple case, but Tommy Rau was long gone by then.

He got on his truck and he left. So once we kind of established that we had the victim's wife here and we had that lockdown, we then went to try and find the perpetrator. The police believe Tommy Rau was hiding out at his home in a wooded area of Bagaloosa, about half an hour away. He was armed, probably dangerous after what we discovered. So we wanted to take all precautions. We got the sheriff's office involved, we got the SWAT team involved. With Kendra's help, more than a dozen law enforcement officers spent that early Saturday morning on a manhunt for an out-of-control killer.

If you're not careful, you can be led in that wrong direction. You need to take it one step at a time and make sure that you're going in the right direction, you know what's happening. That, I felt, was going to be the most pivotal moment of the case. Welcome to the Criminalia Podcast. I'm Maria Tremarchi. And I'm Holly Frey. Together, we invite you into the dark and winding corridors of historical true crime.

Each season, we explore a new theme, everything from poisoners and pirates to art thieves and snake oil products and those who made and sold them. We uncover the stories and secrets of some of history's most compelling criminal figures, including a man who built a submarine as a getaway vehicle. Yep, that's a fact. We also look at what kinds of societal forces were at play at the time of the crime, from legal injustices to the ethics of body snatching, to see what, if anything, might look different through today's perspective.

And be sure to tune in at the end of each episode as we indulge in custom-made cocktails and mocktails inspired by the stories. There's one for every story we tell. Listen to Criminalia on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was big news. I mean, white girl gets murdered, found in a cemetery. Big, big news. When a young woman is murdered, a desperate search for answers takes investigators to some unexpected places. He believed it could be part of a satanic cult.

I think there were many individuals present. I don't know who pulled the trigger. A long investigation stalls until someone changes their story. I like saw what they were having an arrest trial and conviction soon follow. He just saw his body just kind of collapsing. Two decades later, a new team of lawyers says their client is innocent. He did not kill her. There's no way is the real killer rightly behind bars or still walking free? Hey, this is Mel Reed, LPGA Tour winner and six-time Lady Geo-European Tour winner. you get your podcasts. pop culture, some golf haps, and interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their superpower. All just people we like.

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Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHe Heart Women's Sports. As the sun rose in Covington, Tommy Rall showed up at his best friend's house and opened fire on him. This happened two weeks exactly to the day before Christmas Day. Mark Talley woke up to learn his younger brother, Thomas, was gone.

Here's Mark. Kendra's sister-in-law started calling me about 6 in the morning. And she said Thomas had been shot. He was shot in the driveway. She said, I think he's dead. I'm pretty sure he's dead. I think he's dead.

And you just imagine him barefooted in pajamas, laying on his concrete driveway with blood around him. Yeah, that does a number on you. And so I just shut everything off. I shut my phone off. I shut the TV, the radio off. I just needed to be alone at that time. As you can imagine, it was an awful day for Mark. He was my younger brother by a little over five years. When they were kids, Mark said Thomas was the typical younger brother who always followed him around.

Me and Thomas had a lot of similar interests. We tinkered a lot with stuff. We weren't into the whole hunting, fishing thing. We did like to trek through the woods and just goof off and play around. Thomas, he was on honor roll in school for several years. Very sweet kid. Same with Kendra. Kendra and Thomas met a few years earlier while working at the local Pizza Hut. He was a delivery person, she worked inside

and sparks happened and it went from there. He called me one time said, remember the girl Kendra? Said, now she wants to go out with me. So I was happy for him because I knew the kind of person she was, very bubbly and energetic and happy. She was very pleasant to be around. And I think that's what Thomas liked in her. The two eventually got married and had a baby boy. And then everything after that fell into place. Most recently, Thomas worked as a courier.

Thomas was working two jobs sometimes, another job after that to support his family. And becoming a husband, father, and provider were roles that Thomas embraced. He'd always wanted that. He was kind of like me, settled down type. Although Thomas was six years older than Kendra, it didn't make a difference. At first, I didn't think she was motherhood material, but she was very good.

It's understandable given that Kendra went from a girl barely out of her teens to mother and wife. She still had that in her, the party girl type, but that did not hurt her from being a great mother. Mark had last seen Kendra and his brother a couple weeks earlier at Thanksgiving dinner. We all were together and she cooked a mean Thanksgiving dinner. We all had a great time. Kendra was happy, Thomas was happy. But three weeks later, boom. Thomas had been shot. It sent shockwaves.

Even more shocking was that Thomas's best friend, Tommy Rowe, had pulled the trigger. That was one thing I struggled with. You're sad, then you're this, then you're angry. I went through all that all day. It was terrible. Law enforcement was on the lookout for an armed and dangerous Tommy Rau. I basically barricaded myself in my house.

Think about it. This was somebody they were all friends with. Mark was scared. He didn't know what Tommy would do next or where he was. And they went to go look for him. They had the whole SWAT team. Heather Jenkins was a local 911 dispatcher. When Kendra Talley told the investigator who the shooter was,

we notified the Sheriff's Department and they activated their SWAT team because she had told the investigator that he was kind of a conspiracy theorist and had cameras outside of his home and blackout curtains and lots of guns and just very kind of a scary guy. The police found the gold-colored Chevy truck that Tommy Rau was driving parked outside of his home in Bugaluca. Covington, where the crime took place, has a low crime rate compared to the national average. Meanwhile, Bugaluca has one of the highest crime rates

in the country. He was at home and had evidently barricaded himself in the home. I was afraid that it was going to turn into, you know, a big standoff with this guy. And they were out there for, you know, a while. At the time, Tommy was 36 years old and on probation after being charged with cocaine possession.

There was a real concern that he was not going to give up. His sister apparently called him up and said, the cops are coming up to kill you, and you take care of yourself. Jack Hofstadt worked for the district attorney's office. According to him, he put all his guns in the bedroom up, and that he was going to shoot her out with him because he didn't want to die.

You'd think if he didn't want to die, he would surrender. But Tommy wasn't your typical character. He was an avid outdoorsman who liked to hunt and fish. He owned numerous weapons. And the police weren't taking any chances. The tense standoff with Tommy Rowe went on for nearly four hours until one of the officers made a breakthrough. His job was to get somebody out of the house without having to kill him.

And he finally gets Tommy on the telephone. And Tommy tells him immediately, without being asked, that he had killed somebody. Tommy Rowe's guilty conscience got the best of him. He confessed to killing his friend, Thomas Talley. When the officer on the other end heard this, he purposefully denied that Thomas Talley was dead. He says, no, no, you didn't kill anybody. You just wounded.

The officer hoped that by saying Thomas Talley was wounded and not dead, that Tommy would peacefully surrender. You didn't tell him anything you could to get him out of the house without somebody else getting hurt. And thankfully, it worked. He eventually came out, and then they arrested him. With Tommy Rall in custody, detectives searched his house for evidence. And the inside looked like a junkyard.

They went up and got the guns and Kendra's cell phone, which had numerous phone calls from her husband trying to find out where she was and when she was coming home, and his notebook with a suicide note in it. Tommy really was planning on killing himself. He had penned a suicide note in it. He speaks to his relationship with Kendra. Here's one part of it.

I also want my mother to know that I love her with all my heart and Kendra just as much or more. I just hope Kendra can forgive me for what I have done. I also hope Kendra will always know how much I love her and what she means to me. I just can't sit around and watch her being hurt all the time. Love always, Tommy." Tommy Rowe confessed to two things,

being in love with his best friend's wife and killing him. The Covington police charged him with murder. I still remember the vivid pictures of the camera crew when they arrested him, putting him in the patrol car. It was all so shocking for Thomas' brother Mark. It's so rare to have a shooting murder, especially the way it was done here on the North Shore Lake Pontchartrain. Stuff like that's not supposed to happen here. And that's what made, unfortunately, the biggest news, not my brother dying, but that.

Because no one gets killed here. As the police searched Tommy Rouse's home, they uncovered evidence which to them pointed to his long-running obsession with Kendra. There was that strange suicide-slash-love note note along with pictures, including a family photo. But here's the strange part. The photo was of Tommy with Kendra and Kendra's son. That seems to be a little off to me. Tommy Rall often hung out with Thomas and Kendra.

He was a regular at many of the Talley's parties and barbecues. And his three children often played with the Talley's son. All I know is he worked with Thomas, installing car stereos, car alarms back in the day. I think he worked at Pizza Hut. I think that's where him and Kendra met. In Mark's mind, Tommy Rao was just one of the many friends the couple had. He comes off as a pleasant person, but he only will talk to you if you ask him a question.

I'm not going to be judgmental, but it just seemed a little odd. Tommy's deadly obsession with Kendra appeared to be a slam dunk for prosecutors. They had a confession, an eyewitness, and plenty of incriminating physical evidence. He still cared about her in almost an overwhelming way. My gut feeling was saying something's not right. I still think he had a thing for Kendra after Thomas got married to her. And I think that always stuck. But the results of Thomas Talley's autopsy

would throw a wrench in everything. Welcome to the Criminalia Podcast. I'm Maria Tremarchi. And I'm Holly Frye. Together, we invite you into the dark and winding corridors of historical true crime. Each season, we explore a new theme, everything from poisoners and pirates to art thieves and snake oil products and those who made and sold them. We uncover the stories and secrets of some of history's most compelling criminal figures, including a man who built a submarine as a getaway vehicle. Yep, that's

a fact. We also look at what kinds of societal forces were at play at the time of the crime, from legal injustices to the ethics of body-snatching, to see what, if anything, might look different through today's perspective. And be sure to tune in at the end of each episode as we indulge in custom-made cocktails and mocktails inspired by the stories. There's one for every story we tell. Listen to Criminalia on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was big news. I mean, white girl gets murdered, found in a cemetery, big, big news.

When a young woman is murdered, a desperate search for answers takes investigators to some unexpected places. He believed it could be part of a satanic cult. I think there were many individuals present. I don't know who pulled the trigger. A long investigation stalls until someone changes their story. I like saw what Nothing to happen. An arrest, trial, and conviction soon follow. He just saw his body just kind of collapsing. Two decades later, a new team of lawyers says their client is innocent.

He did not kill her. There's no way. Is the real killer rightly behind bars or still walking free? Are you capable of murder? I definitely am not. Did you kill her? There's no way. Is the real killer rightly behind bars or still walking free? Are you capable of murder? I definitely am not. Did you kill her? Listen to The Real Killer, season three, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. When I smoke weed, I get lost in the music. I like to isolate each instrument. The rhythmic bass, the harmonies on the piano, the sticky melody. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Careful babe, there's someone crossing the street. Sorry, I didn't see him there.

If you feel different, you drive different. Don't drive high. It's dangerous and illegal everywhere. A message from NHTSA and the Ad Council. Just before sunrise on December 11, 2004, Thomas Talley was gunned down in his driveway in Covington, Louisiana. A few hours later, his killer, Tommy Rowe, who had been his best friend, was in custody. Jack Hofstadt worked for the district attorney's office. We have very few murders.

Most murders that we have are what I call business disputes. One drug dealer killing another or somebody robbing a drug dealer because they've got the money. And every once in a while, we have something like the Raul Talley case, which really doesn't fit in with the norm. In addition to murder, Tommy also faced a drug possession charge.

Police had found crystal meth inside his truck. His case appeared to be open and shut until the results of Thomas Talley's autopsy came back. The pathologist, the medical examiner, is the one that decides exactly what killed him. That report stated that Thomas Talley was shot in the chest, hip, head, and groin area a total of six times. But the detective's job got a whole lot harder when the report listed the origin of those six bullets. Two different testiles.

One was a Ruger 9mm, the other was a Llama 45. Okay, the fact that the victim took bullets from two different guns, well, that the victim took bullets from two different guns? Well that changed the entire investigation. He was shot four times with the 9mm and two with the.45. The first shots, the 9mm shots, were shot in a downward pattern, but they weren't close shots. They were at least 36 inches apart.

The last two shots were directly standing over, the ones that were 45. Okay, so here's what that means. Four bullets were fired from inside Tommy's truck, and two bullets from a different gun were fired outside the truck. We had multiple gunshot wounds and two calibers. When you have two calibers you know you have two guns. It was up to detectives to figure out who fired the second gun. Was it someone else or did Tommy fire both guns? Here's detective Doug Arrowood. In reality that's usually not the case unless you've got the old Wild West one gun in each hand. People are not

at all comfortable with shooting on an everyday basis. Very, very few people are. The only other person law enforcement knew of who had been at the crime scene was Kendra. She had already talked to the detectives right after witnessing her husband being shot to death in the driveway of their home. She was definitely worse for wear, so to speak. But given the circumstances, you've got to say that's understandable in a very traumatic time. Maybe there's something that she missed. Maybe there's something she could tell us that would either say, yes, I did it or no,

I didn't. And here's why. And we'd say, you know what? You have a point. You're good to go. So she agreed to come in with an attorney. I agreed to talk to us. Kendra held the key to what happened and had been so helpful to the investigation. So the detective had Kendra walk him through what happened that night.

One more time. came through what happened that night one more time. She was telling me about how she was abused by her husband at the time. Kendra told the detective that her husband Thomas had sexually assaulted her a few weeks earlier. On tape, Kendra said he forced himself on her and did some things he had never done before. I didn't think there was a lot of love lost in this marriage. Maybe there wasn't a lot of love at all in this marriage.

Kendra explained that in the hours leading up to Thomas's murder, Kendra and Tommy Wow grabbed breakfast after their night on Bourbon Street. They went to a local all-night establishment, Waffle House, and they were sitting there eating, and she claimed that he pressed her saying something's wrong. What is it? What is it? And that's when Kendra first shared her secret about how her husband had sexually assaulted

her. She said, okay, well, this is what happened, but, you know, please forgive me. It's not that big a deal. But it was a big deal for Tommy. He loved Kendra and he was furious. And he went into a rage and says, that's it. He loved her so much. She didn't want to see anything happening to her. So that was it. He was going to go and take care of business. Tommy Rouse stormed out of the restaurant.

Kendra followed and found him in his truck. She said she tried to calm him down because she feared he was going to hurt her husband. But she talked him out of it and she thought everything was okay. Kendra and Tommy drove to his house where she says he seemed to cool off. But they got to his house, he got into more of a rage. Then he locked her in the truck. She said Tommy grabbed her cell phone, ran into his house, and returned with two guns. Now armed and dangerous, Tommy drove them back to Covington. Kendra said she had never seen Tommy like that and feared the worst.

She said she was kicking him and resisting to the fullest extent, begging him not to do what he was going to do. When the two arrived at Kendra's house, her husband heard the sound of Tommy's horn and walked outside. Kendra said she screamed for him to go back inside, and that's when Tommy Rowe grabbed a gun and opened fire on him from inside the truck. Kendra then exited the vehicle and ran to get help. But Tommy wasn't finished.

He got out, went around the truck, and he put a couple in him just to finish him off, just to make sure. But the more you look at this, the more you say things aren't adding up. That's probably what you're thinking too. A few key details of Kendra's story stuck out. She was telling me during the interview about how he, with one hand, drove along curvy, windy roads in the middle of the night, and with the other hand, tied her up and then tied her to the steering wheel.

Can you imagine tying somebody to the steering wheel of a vehicle every time you turn a corner? They're gonna be in your lap, and then they're gonna be off to the side again. And speaking of the truck, remember how Kendra said Tommy locked her in his truck? Sure. I've known plenty of people be locked out of a vehicle. I've helped them get into their vehicle when their keys have been sitting in there. I've never known somebody had been locked in a vehicle unless they were an infant in a cradle and couldn't get out or unless it was a dog.

Her husband Thomas's funeral was scheduled for December 15, 2004. But that morning, Kendra was a no-show at the service. She was arrested, and she was charged. She was charged as a principal to the murder. Just before her husband's funeral, the police arrested Kendra Talley and charged her with being the principal to his murder. We had a pretty good idea of the evidence that we found at the scene

that she was involved in this and not just a victim. Was Kendra the other shooter or was someone else involved? The police were about to hear a whole different side to this story. We had two people telling two different stories. We're trying to figure out which story is true. In part two of The Louisiana Love Triangle, just as Thomas Talley was laid to rest, we'll learn how two lovers turned on each other

to save themselves. I'm Sloane Glass. That's next time on American Homicide. You can contact the American Homicide team by emailing us at americanhomicidepod at gmail.com. That's americanhomicidepod at gmail.com. American Homicide is hosted and written by me, Sloane Glass, and is a production of Glass Podcasts, a division of Glass Entertainment Group in partnership with iHeart Podcasts. The show is executive produced by Nancy Glass and Todd Gans. The series is also written and produced by Todd Gantz, with additional writing by Ben

Federman and Andrea Gunning. Our associate producer is Kristen Malkuri. Our I Heart Team is Allie Perry and Jessica Kreinchak. Audio editing, mixing and mastering by Nico Oruka. American Homicide's theme song was composed by Oliver Baines of Noiser, music library provided by MyMusic. Follow American Homicide on Apple podcasts and please rate and review American Homicide.

Your five star review goes a long way towards helping others find this show. For more podcasts from iHeart, visit the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the Criminalia Podcast. I'm Maria Tremorchi. And I'm Holly Fry. Together, we invite you into the dark and winding corridors of historical true crime. Each season, we explore a new theme from poisoners

to art thieves. We uncover the secrets of history's most interesting figures from legal injustices to body snatching. And tune in at the end of each episode as we indulge in cocktails and mocktails inspired by each story. Listen to Criminalia on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was big news. I mean, white girl gets murdered, found in a cemetery. Big, big news. A long investigation stalls until someone changes their story. I like saw, nothing happened. An arrest, trial and conviction soon follow. He did not kill her. There's no way.

Is the real killer rightly behind bars or still walking free? Did you kill her? Listen to The Real Killer, season three on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you hungry? Colleen Witt here and Eating While Broke is back for season four every Thursday

on the Black Effect Podcast Network. This season, we've got a legendary lineup serving up pro dishes and even better stories. On the menu, we have Tony Baker, Nick Cannon, Melissa Ford, October London, and Carrie Harper Howie turning Big Macs into big moves. Catch Eating While Broke every Thursday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcast, wherever you get your favorite shows. Come hungry for season four.