An Army of Normal Folks - HIGHLIGHTS: The 100,000-Man Movement That Will Change Your Life

Episode Date: August 4, 2026

Frank Schwartz is the CEO of F3 Nation, a 100,000-man volunteer led movement built around fitness, fellowship, and faith. Men at 5,000+ locations worldwide show up at 5:30am - no matter if it’s raining, snowing, or freezing - for free peer-led workouts. But the workout is just the entry point. What F3 is really doing is cultivating a brotherhood and teaching men how to lead, so they can take that home to their families and community. If you've ever felt like there has to be more than just going through the motions of life, then this episode is for you. And if there's a man in your life who needs to hear this, send it to him. Find an F3 workout near you at F3Nation.com. They’re free and open to all men. ARMY ACTIONS Subscribe to the podcast and rate & review us! Signup to join the Army, visit NormalFolks.org Follow us on social media @ArmyofNormalFolks Join or start an ANF local service club at https://normalfolks.org/service-clubs/ Take The 10 Level Challenge, "the hero's journey for service" at 10LevelChallenge.org  Support the show: https://www.normalfolks.us/#joinSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Have you thought about the cost of men that opt out of leadership opportunities to society? I think we're seeing it. I think we see it in the degradation of family values. I think we see it in the degradation of our institutions. When there is no leadership, this is what happens. America has a shortage of male leaders. Men are quietly checking out of leading in their communities, their own homes, and even their own lives. Is this the great destiny of my life? Is to just bring home paychecks and be sad? a cubicle all day and make money for somebody else. Is this my purpose? This is what God called me too. It's to look another man in the face and say, don't worry, man. There's more. This is Frank Schwartz. He's the CEO of F3, which stands for fitness, fellowship, and faith. Men at over 5,000 locations

across the world join free peer-led workouts at 5.30 a.m. that are outdoors, no matter if it's freezing, blistering, raining, or snowing. You're the CEO of 100,000 man movement. Currently, we ain't done. The mission of F3 is to plant, grow, and serve these small workout groups for men in order to invigorate male community leadership. One of the core principles of F3 is that it's peer-led, right? It's all volunteers, and if you come out long enough, we'll say, hey, it's your turn, you've got to lead.

We want to teach men leadership, because if they learn how to lead, then they can take at home to their families. By the end of this episode, you're going to walk away with a blueprint for real leadership. You'll have a deeper appreciation for where your leadership matters most. You'll also discover the F3 movement, and that just might change your life or the lives of men you care about, who really need to hear this episode. F3 ain't going to change the world. That's not what we're for.

We're here to change men who will change the world. This is Army of Normal Folks, where our mission is to make service easier for all of us. And together, change the country. I'm Ruby Carr, the host of the podcast, Encore. Check out our brand new episodes featuring music from the show that everyone is reheating as we speak. Heated rivalry. Join me as I go behind the songs that brought Shane and Elia together. I'll tell you the stories of Fice, My Moon, My Man, Wolf Parades, I'll Believe in Anything,

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Now, let's go to the episode. You joined F3 for one blunt reason. What was it? Huh. To not be fat anymore. That was really the crux of it. How long ago?

So that was 2014. So I guess I'm, I'm finishing up your 12 of this deal. So, I mean, what did you look in the mirror? And, I mean, they have these things called Planet Fitness. They do. I mean, why? Very true.

What was the real? So, well, I went to the doctor. My doctor, it's been my doctor since we moved to Charlotte 20-something years ago. And she was like, look, you got high blood pressure. You got high cholesterol. You're overweight. You got sleep apnea. She's like, you're basically just a stroke waiting to happen.

I was like, well, thanks for that. I appreciate that. And so it was like she said basically, like, either you start actually exercising like I've been asking to you to for years or you can be on some medicines. And I said, I don't want to do all that. So she says, well, then you better start working out. So I started going to the gym. Like I did a YMCA thing, right? And but I kept hearing about this F3 thing, F3, F3.

And I knew a couple guys who had been in it. And there's a guy that I worked with who had lost some weight and stuff and was looking pretty good. It looked like he was feeling good about life. And so I said, hey man, what are you been doing? He's like, I've been doing this F3. And I was like, what does everybody keep talking about F3? Like, what is that? And so he explains it and told me kind of what they do for workouts and stuff.

And I was like, well, I'm not doing that. Like, it was terrible. Like, it was very hard. Like, it's what it sounded like to me. You know, I was like, I'm more of like a jog on a treadmill for a mile and go and pretend I know what some of these machines do. And that's, you know, that was it. So I, uh, so I just,

decided just one Saturday. I was like, you know, I'll just show up. Like, we'll just see. Right. How bad can it be? It's November. Bad choice. It was probably one of the colder days of that year. And I went out there and Bill, I'd never really exercised in earnest, you know, since like high school, you know. And so, I mean, it was horrible. It was an hour long. And one of the, the core principles of F3 is that it's peer led, right? It's all volunteers. And if you come out long enough, we'll say, hey, it's your turn. You got to lead. right you don't get away with just showing up everybody has to participate and not just in the workout but also in the in the leadership of the workouts so the way they did on saturdays then used to be they would do two halves it's an hour long and they would do you know one guy with a lead 30 another

guy would lead 30 but i didn't know that i mean i just had shut up out of nowhere and um we uh they start running us around as all this horrible stuff and it's about 30 minutes in and this guy goes all right man bring it in everybody kind of comes to you know gathers around and i was like oh thank goodness that is over That was horrible. That was the worst thing I'd ever done in my life. And he was like, all right, for the second half, I'm going to hand it off to this guy. And I was like, how is there a second half?

Like, we're all going to die. There's no way, right? And then we did the second half, and it was horrible. But, you know, you survived. But the thing was is so that, you know, you can get a workout a lot of places, right? And it's a little bit of a misnomer to call us a fitness group. We use fitness, right? That is kind of the Trojan horse.

horse, if you will, to get a man to come out, right? But really, it's about, and not ironically, an army of normal folks, right? But it's about community. It's about bringing men together. So F3 stands for fitness, fellowship, and faith. All right. So I went down a rabbit hole. I had on my underwear in one sock, and it was late last night, and got on my computer. There's visual. That's what it is. leases out of town so i disturbed absolutely nobody noted um and i watched a couple of videos and what i saw is a bunch of people about my age jumping curbs lifting cinder blocks uh doing some other stuff that looked like jane fondo workout from the 80s.

That must have been Memphis. No, it was not. I'm just getting it. I'm just saying that because they're all here. And, and like getting a serious workout in, but just like using what was in the parking lot. Yeah. And I just started giggling, you know, it was not what I expected to see. No.

So when you showed up and you joined F3 for that one blunt reason. Yeah. Was that what you found in the workout? was that kind of atmosphere? Yeah, yeah, very much. Yeah. A lot of joking. You had to have been.

Are you kidding? Oh, yeah. That's why I was like, how, what is even happening to me right now, right? It was a lot of it. Now, at that one, we didn't have a lot of cinder blocks and that kind of foolishness, but it's not uncommon to, you know, you'll be running and they'll be like, oh, a rock pile and everybody stops and then you work out with the rocks or, you know, whatever, whatever, fallen trees, all right?

Pick up the log and carry that around, right? It's, it's, um. This peer lead thing sounds like it's like, it's like, oh. Okay, if I'm leading this week, what kind of stupid can I come up with that I'm going to make my group do? Fellas, would you agree? Yeah, that's about it. Yeah, that's about it. That actually makes it fun.

Yeah, it's fantastic. All right. So, I got to get that. But you have said that F3 is a men's fitness group, but it's really a clever disguise. It is. It is. Frank? Yeah.

What are you hiding? We're a cult. No, I'm just going to. No, it's, the mission of F3 is to plant, grow, and serve these small workout groups for men in order to invigorate male community leadership. We want to wake men back up. There's a lot, and this is, it was very true in Charlotte. It may be true in Memphis, and I know it's true in a lot of cities and towns throughout America, but men, of our age, right, or similar, as you mentioned, right?

And that kind of late 30s-ish to mid-early 50s-ish, right? You mean the dad-bought crowd? Exactly. Well, not me, but some of them. You're spelt. I'll show you a picture later. I'm a fat kid waiting to happen, Bill. But, no, but, you know, they, they, maybe they got a couple of kids now, right, this early stage of career in life.

And probably they probably just had their second kid or something. They had something just had to buy a bigger car, right? Again, maybe a bigger house, get out of the three bedroom into a four or five, right? God forbid, drive a minivan. There it is. We say all the time, we're an army of minivan centurions. Oh, boy. That's what we are, right?

So you got to, you get in this lifestyle. And pretty soon, what you find is after a few years of that, these guys who thought they were achieving, much like you sitting in their underwear, one sock in their hand, on the end of their bed, and they go, was this it? Is this all I'm for? Is this the great destiny of my life? Is to just bring home paychecks and be sad and shuffle mindlessly and listlessly in and out of these giant high rises in Charlotte, sitting in a cubicle all day and make money for somebody? or whatever else, you know, like, is this my purpose? And you look in their eyes and you can see it. The hurt. I was telling guys just this morning, like, I can't not do this. This is what God called me too, right? It's to look another man in the face and say, don't worry, man. There's more. There's more. And we get, that's, that's really what we are. It's a leadership group. And we, we want to teach men leadership because if they learn how to lead, then they can take that home to their families, right? They can take that out in their communities. They can go places and

teach others to know what they know, right, to teach them how to be functional. I mean, that's why the fitness is all functional. Everything about what we do is functional, you know, so it's speaking to those men in those situations, certainly at first that's what it was designed for. Why do you think so many men, especially middle-aged men, have never with purpose. And when I, I say lead, I don't mean managing a business group. Crew community, and that's part of what I love about F3 and really about what you guys are doing, too, is that it's volunteers, right? If you got hired, as it were, to be in the position you're in, and that's your leadership, then you really are a manager, right? Somebody's paying you.

You're paying the people beneath you, and that means you have the leverage and the power of them to say, like, well, if you don't do what I say, I'm going to pay you anymore, right? So that's managing, which isn't bad. It's a form of leadership, right? But leadership in its most pure fashion, I think, is a man or a woman with vision who can articulate that vision and then persuade others to come with them, right? Have you thought about the cost of men that opt out of leadership opportunities to society? I think we're seeing it. I mean, in terms of dollars and cents, incalculable.

Incalculable. But I think we're seeing it. I think we see it in the degradation of family values. I think we see it in the degradation of our institutions. I mean, it's as obvious. I mean, we're seeing the cost. We're seeing the cost. This is what the problem is when there is no leadership.

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We don't have time to go into the depth of it. But basically, he found that Pew Research did a cool study that said that about a 40% approval rating of the White House. and historically over the last eight presidential elections after two years, regardless of if it's a Democrat or Republican, that's about the number. So it's really not about the politics. Same number for Congress, a little bit lower number for Senate. For the first time of our history, there's less than a 50% approval rating of the Supreme Court. It's supposed to be a nonpartisan body.

Even more surprisingly, for the first time in our history, there's less than a 50% approval rating of CEOs of our Fortune 500 companies. Interesting. So we don't approve. And at the same time, the same Pew Research found that everybody knows that if they're watching Fox or CNN, 94% of respondents said they realize, depending on whose news they're watching, that it's going to be slanted toward one view point or another. Yeah. and when reading social media, that at the very least it's slanted all the way to patently false when getting your news from that. So we don't approve.

We know we're being fed crud. Yet the exact same respondent said they spend an average of 2.2 hours a day, either listening to Fox, CNN, or on social media. I know that this poison is terrible for me, but let me have more of it. Like a bunch of sheep. Look, man, we live in a- Continue to follow narratives that we know our and then we wonder why we feel bad about ourselves and we opt out of service and leadership because we think the world's broken because we're feeding ourselves with. Yeah, 100% true. Yeah.

F3, it seems to me, breaks that down. We like to think so, yeah. We like to think. Because here's the thing. And to your point, I think it's really encapsulated well in our second core principle. which is that it is open to all men. All. We make no qualification, no kind of, I mean, there's no fee, there's no, I mean,

number one, number one core principles is free, right? It's always free, no matter what, period. And the second, there's open all men. And so there is no barrier to entry. We don't care who you are. What you look like, who you worship, who you love, don't care. How you vote. Don't care.

I was telling guys this morning there's a, And these are started to crop up all over the place, but one of the original workout spots early on in Charlotte is at a local treatment facility, right? Live in, you know, I think it's, I think it's about 180 days now that they give for free. It's a Charlotte Rescue Mission. And a guy named John Lambert, who is my predecessor who started that, and he says, you know, these guys, and he was an addict, right? So he knew. He also runs a, you know, multi-bigillion dollar construction. company now, right? And so he was like, these are men that he had a heart for. So he goes and he

starts a work out there. And originally they didn't even want us there. So they're like, everybody fails these guys. Everybody fails these guys. We don't need one more, you know, great hope to come and pretend like they care and then wash out after a few weeks. And then these guys once again look at their lives and go, well, I got nothing, right? Many of our long-time listeners will understand the phrase turkey person. I'll explain it to you later when I got it. Perfect. I have a feel. Maybe as checkwriters, like kind of the same, yeah. Show up on Thanksgiving, give me. Oh, there you go. Yeah. And they never show my birthday. And so they said, we're not really thrilled with this idea, but we'll give you a shot. Well, it's been now, I don't remember,

10, 12 years or something, we've been doing this every single Saturday. And at that location, you have men who are in the depth of chronic addiction and homelessness. Right. Sometimes they've been in and out of this facility a couple of. at times, working out next to men, literally who are billionaires. And really, outside of, I mean, if you know, if you're astute, right, you can pick it up, but really, they're all wearing the same t-shirt. Nobody asks, nobody cares, right? I only know because I know the guys, right?

If you know them, you know them, maybe, but they don't look at it and go, this guy's less or, oh, he's a project or whatever. we really have a true deep ethos of every man is every man. God created every man to be a leader. He created every man to be successful. He created every man to have purpose in his life. Whatever that purpose is. Some purposes are bigger than others, right? You reach thousands and thousands of people, right? Other guys, that may not be their deal. That might not be where they're called to impact. but we believe that every single man on this planet has been called to impact. And so our intent is to go and to find them and to unlock them,

to give them leadership skills and purpose and to set them free. All while lifting cinder blocks. It's the weird thing. It's the weird thing. Bill, if knitting was the thing that brought men together into community and unlock their hearts and minds, we would knit with a fervor unknown to man. that's what we would do. It just so happens that the workout's a pretty good way to get guys in.

You know, my generation, or at least how I grew up was, we didn't have a lot of catchphrases for stuff. We just said what we thought and rolled with it. And there's good and bad to that. In today's world, there seems to be a catchphrase or a title for everything. So when I think about masculinity, as I'm thinking about F3, The two are basically synonymous, Bill, so it makes sense. I understand, but see, here's the point because of that tongue-in-shee comment.

I think about the terms, toxic masculinity, row culture masculinity, soft masculinity. What is an F3 masculinity? Real masculinity. True masculine. Tell me what that is. We would say virtuous masculinity. That's probably the way to phrase it. Masculinity to us, most of the things you described there, like the bro culture, you know, these red pill guys, you know, whatever, and the Andrew Tates and the, you know, these kinds of guys that are out there.

I don't believe that that's masculinity. I don't think there's such a thing as toxic masculinity. I think that's masculineism, right? Much like feminism or other isms. Essentially what you've done is you've taken this thing that really is beautiful and holy and good. and you've turned that into your God. You've turned that into the thing that you worship. So these guys that spend a lot of time in the gym,

sure, they do that because they worship their bodies. They think they're very handsome and very strong, and some of them are, right? And they're there to do that because that is who they believe that they are. Their identity. That's right. We don't believe in that. We don't believe in that.

We think your identity comes from something bigger than yourself. And most of these people who are practicing what I would call masculinism are those who believe in themselves, and only themselves. You hear a lot of self-care and you know this kind of stuff and you know these guys when you listen to what they're talking about it's it's very very damaging stuff very very damaging stuff. So a virtuous man or a man who practices virtuous masculinity which I think is true masculinity is a man who I think practices courageous love, you know, full and complete self-abandoned in the service of his fellow being. That's really what we're for. The reason we get strong out there

lifting, you know, rocks and trees and whatever else and jumping over, you know, picnic tables or whatever, you know, whatever idiot stuff we're doing is because, Bill, heaven forbid, I'm not that much younger than you are. I know you might think I am, but I'm not. You like, I'm so, it's so bad. It's so bad. No, honestly, I thought we're the same age. Pretty close, right? Yeah. See, it was good. Yeah, I don't look bad for 98, right? Yeah. I can tell you with clarity, if you were in a dangerous situation, right let's say you know the car crashes and it catches fire and you're unconscious right i know i know because i've done it we did it this morning i can hoist you on my back and run flat out for a hundred yards and you'll be fine and that's who i am you know what i tell you a story about that actually not about carrying somebody but but this idea of kind of the the masculinity we're going for so i had this bad tendency to sort of stop for folks on the side of the road. My wife says it's dangerous. You got to go somehow, right? But if I see somebody in distress, I just, that's part of who I am.

I can't really help myself. And this is a few years ago now, but I stopped one time and it was just a, you know, car stop, flashes on. I can see people in the car. So I pull over and, and I'm going to, you know, get out to help or whatever. Now, I'm not a big guy. I'm not like a menacing presence or something. you know, big fella. And I didn't play, you know, college sports or anything. But I'm not, you know, it's just a random dude, like getting out of his truck, you know, walking back toward your car. You know, you might be a little weirded out, right?

Well, the beauty of it is it's this, it's a clearly several generations of family in here, right? The lady driving the car will look like probably her mom and probably her daughter in the backseat. I start walking back toward this car and she hops out and runs up and she's like, oh, thank goodness. And I was like, oh, yeah, are you guys okay? And she says, well, we've had people pull over and I just kind of waved him on. She says, but this is truth. I saw your F3 sticker. And I knew that I would be safe.

And I knew that you would help. Wow. Now, part of that's the blessing of being in the Charlotte area, so a lot of people know what F3 is. But in my mind, Bill, that's masculine. That's a great story. The truth often is. You're able to fix their car? Are you just a...

I ended up having to give them a ride. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah. I know. Now, real masculinity would be like, oh, yeah, and I fix the car and I change the tie. Like, no. I walk into the car and I'm like, car broke. I don't know.

You know, like, I have no idea. Car broke. I have truck. Yeah, exactly. So I gave her a ride, you all whatever, right? So we got them home and got people called. But yeah. But that was the point.

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Working out together That was kind of the The passion project of your founder Not the founder but yeah another guy But yeah another guy I mean that's the beauty of it too right The founder didn't think of that Just somebody in the crowd.

Had an idea. With that perspective as background, about some specific friendships that you know that are from two to similar worlds that now lead and serve and are friends with one another, specifically because of F3. Man, I'll be honest. That's a long list.

Give me one. It's a long list. Well, I'll tell you what. Yeah. Give me one of yours. Okay. I'll do that. That's probably easier even.

So one of the things we believe in in F3 is in shared leadership, right? No one man can run anything. It kind of helps avoid a lot of problems. You know, you don't get this kind of cult of personality. Like, I can't choose to do anything without, you know, kind of this group of men that I've selected to come with me, right? We share leadership. Well, now, early on, I didn't. didn't do it this way necessarily because, you know, first thing you do is pick some of your buddies,

like-minded guys, and you think, it's fantastic, you know, this will be great. We'll hang out with our buddies. We'll make decisions about things. And I've learned over time that that is a very ineffective way to lead a very large volunteer group. So there's a guy named Scratch and Win. I presume he has a real name. Scratch and win. First of all, I get that that's like a lotto card. Yeah, yeah. But I can't help but think of a dude, you know. Scratch it. Scratch it. Win.

Scratch. It only feels good. I win. Yeah, exactly. I can't wait to share that with him. Scratch and win. But John Horton, and he actually is now our, uh, he's our only employee, right? He's our fundraising guy.

He's the only one who actually works for us. Everybody else is volunteers. But anyway, he's a guy who has very, uh, different political leanings for me, let's say. And that's one of the things that we love to fight with most in this country, right? Fight with those kind of people, people that are opposite. of us. But I specifically asked him to come and serve with us and be a part of the team because I know how different he is. Now, I probably shouldn't even share this. I'm sure this is the first time some guys will ever have heard it, but we were on a retreat as a leadership team. And John and I,

I don't want to say we almost came to blows, but it was, it was warm. We'll just say that. It was warm. Disagreeing over something, right? Now, it's a guy that normally you would be like, forget that guy i'm done it's over he's dead to me throw him off the team and we move on right and get done we need to get done well some good advice from guys on that team you know come to me and say well you know he doesn't believe in god i have a very strong faith in right he doesn't believe in in a lot of the the social things that i do or and vice versa right there is nothing about us that is uh i mean outside of the fact that we're both men and uh i mean we're he's His ages, he's a fair amount younger than me and whatever, but we shouldn't match on paper,

and we shouldn't, especially after fighting with one another and disagreeing so vehemently about certain things, there's no way that we should be getting along. And yet, just before I came here even, you know, he's calling me going, hey, man, anything else you need for the trip, what else going to do for you? And, you know, you're going to be gone. Is your wife need anything? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All this kind of stuff, right?

And he is one of my dearest friends. I disagree with him so strongly about so many. things, you know, that he still does and believes, you know, whatever. And so we, we don't fight and yell anymore, but, but those kinds of stories, I mean, there's guys who, you know, on paper would like, why would you ever talk to this dude? But some of the greatest friends I have are, there's up in the, in the Northeast, there's guys who worship very differently, non-Christians, very different, you know, different colors, different, all this kind. I mean, and when you, when you remove all of the stuff that the world tells you you're supposed to pay attention to

to make you part of the same group, if you remove all that, and you can get a man who believes in his heart what the mission is, what he has as a mission as a man. We can disagree about whatever you like, you know? And so, you know, I call this guy now because sometimes when I'm upset about something else, And I'll be like, hey, I need a different perspective from my own. Because my perspective is just making me mad. You know, so I need somebody to tell me to get my head out of my rear end so I can come back around and be a normal person again. The man out there or the wife out there who has a husband who's listening to us, not the husband, but the wife's listening to us. The man who thinks it's just too ordinary to make a difference or the wife that's sitting.

season or her husband, a degraded version of what she fell in love with. What does F3 say about what just one normal person can actually do? We often, because people look at F3 now that we have, you know, we're known a little bit in certain places and they know we have some size, you know, to our ranks and things like that. And I get a lot of guys who say things like, oh, man, F3 ought to, you know, fill in the blank. Pick a number. Yeah, do whatever it might be.

Right. And we often say that, that man, F3 ain't going to change the world. That's not what we're for. We're here to change men who will change the world. So to a one guy who thinks he can't make any difference, I think he needs to probably step back and decide what difference really means. He needs to figure out that it, it ain't building some big massive, you know, billion dollar company or flying to the moon or any other that nonsense, right? He needs to recognize. I have done a lot of speeches all over the place, some big, big, big ones and all that. And one of the things in the leadership speech that I do is you can probably be the most effective, most important leader and servant without even leaving the front door. Your spouse and your children, your family. 100%. And you don't have to. to be part of any big 501c3 or anything to have profound effect. And I know that because I lack that leadership in my own life.

And I love what you're doing because I can see a man after joining F3 and being involved for just a short period of time. I can see him feeling better about himself physically, better about himself emotionally spiritually, and I got to believe that is most clearly reflected at home. 100%. 100%. In fact, I say it a lot, and I feel like I'm not quite getting it through to everybody yet in F3, you know, but like, if you're not taking everything that we teach you out there

about leadership, about the principles of the workout, even things like, you know, like our third core values that we, or third core principles that we work out. outdoors, no matter what? Rain, Sean. None of it. None of it. Doesn't matter, right? No matter what, we're outdoors.

That's just a thing. And every man has to just, you know, assess his own risk and decide whether or not he wants to be there. Now that's up to him. But all those things that we teach you about, becoming more durable, right? The fitness is functional fitness. I want to know that if I have to pick Bill up, I can, right? I want to know that, I mean, even down to something stupid, like if the plane is late and

I got to carry all the bags and our family has to run to the next gate or something, right? I can do that. I'm strong enough to do that. I have the mental durability to do that, right? If you're not taking all of those things that we teach you home, then there isn't any point. There isn't any point. The family is the basic building block of society. How the family goes, society goes.

How the man in the family goes is how the family goes. And that's just facts. Great story. Great work. Thanks for being here. Frank Schwartz, everybody. And thank you for joining us this week. If Frank Schwartz has inspired you in general, or better yet, to take action by joining an F3 workout, sharing this episode with men in your life who could benefit from it, leading more intentionally in your home or community, or,

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