Analytic Dreamz: Notorious Mass Effect - "DON TOLIVER - OCTANE"
Episode Date: October 29, 2025Linktree: https://linktr.ee/AnalyticJoin The Normandy For Additional Bonus Audio And Visual Content For All Things Nme+! Join Here: https://ow.ly/msoH50WCu0KAnalytic Dreamz breaks down Don... Toliver’s confirmed fifth studio album “Octane,” announced October 25–27, 2025, and now entering rollout. This marks Toliver’s third consecutive annual full-length release since 2023, extending a streak of high-output trap-soul and melodic rap projects. Following September 2025’s “Tiramisu”—a critically noted blend of sweet harmonies and dark club textures—“Octane” arrives weeks later, signaling a rare two-project 2025 cycle. The title reflects speed, energy, and artistic momentum, aligning with Toliver’s signature fusion of trap, R&B, and psychedelic production. Strong online engagement from “Tiramisu” fuels anticipation for this high-throttle chapter in Don Toliver’s career. Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Now, of course, I already covered Don Tolliver's latest track titled Tyra Miss You.
Hopefully I'm saying that right.
But of course, as of October 28, 2025, Don Tolliver came out with an album title and fifth studio album under the album title.
I don't know if this is a shirt.
I don't know what this is.
What is this?
This shirt or beanie.
Whatever this is.
It's too big for me.
not big but you know i don't know what this is i think it's a shirt anyways basically don't
tulliver has announced a new album um we don't know when it's going to come in out but
officially we know the next album title as it says fifth studio album if you look at don't tolliver
i love when they say fifth studio album because uh one two three four five six seven okay so if you
add that the deluxe it's technically seven which you know they never count deluxe as another project
which I don't know why could you put like six seven projects but anyways I mean six seven tracks so
when it comes to Don Tolliver in general he's not the biggest superstar but of course he definitely
does respectable numbers as um his career first week sales the most impressive to me is his latest with
hardstone cycle that sold 77,000 first week so it seems like he's on the up and up now of course to be
fair life of dawn in 2021 did 68 000 first week and then you had love sick do 40,000
So when it comes to recognition, I think what I say all the time when it comes to quality and recognition is very applicable to Don Tolliver.
Just because you sell a lot does not mean you're making the highest quality.
And just because you don't sell does not mean you're making straight up trash.
The two do not correlate.
So now you look at Don Tolliver, I believe he's a immensely talented individual, especially from a musical standpoint.
I mean, what was the track with Cuevo on Heaven for Hell?
had enough i'm not being dramatic when i say this i think had enough is one of the greatest
tracks i've ever heard in life when it comes to the melodic factor
there's few people who have given this like compliment to as far as having melodic
elements on lock one maybe a little left field and y'all probably won't even uh think that i'll
say this name but it's a little teca little teca don't tolliver the most of the
melodic elements that they bring into every single beat, y'all gonna call it glazing.
You guys.
But the main thing is noticing and highlighting how these two artists is some of the best at
having melodic melodic elements that drives engagement, especially from a core standpoint.
Because now people are coming to them to see what type of melody they're going to use on whatever beat.
because you never get the same flow.
It's never the same cadence.
They're always switching it up to the point where it's always a great listen whenever you listen to these two specific artists.
That's what I always say.
Just because you sell a lot does not mean you make the highest quality,
but just because you don't sell does not mean you make absolute trash.
When it comes to Dr. Tolliver, I feel like he should be a bigger artist in the landscape of music.
But I guess people aren't just flocking to his music like that.
Also, another thing, I think I was, comes like.
looking this up earlier. I don't want to get the name wrong as far as who he's with, but I believe
I believe he just had a child, right? Hopefully I'm not getting him confused with somebody else.
It was, I'll make sure it's the right person. Okay, I don't know if it's the right person,
but I believe it's Calli Uches. Now, if it's not Calli Uch's, just no. I'm sincerely, sorry,
because I've covered Calli Uch's a lot. So I want to say it was heard, but I don't know why I just
blinked on the name. Okay, there's Calli Uch's. I'm tripping, yeah, because over here we've
cover Calli Uch's as well a bunch of times because y'all enjoy like a lot of different
covers as far as some music industry so I appreciate that but last time we talked about
Cali Uch's it was September 12th of this year and then we talked about Calli Uch's and Raven Lanay as far as
the track cry about it but sincerely P.S. I think was her album that we got into and she just does a lot
of numbers like as far as her 24th city arena tour that Kylie Uch's was on as far as this year
safe to say that she's one of the more clamored for artists in society.
So I would go out on the limb and probably say
Kelly Uch's and Don Tolover is probably one of the bigger power couples
as far as the music industry.
Obviously, I know like Jay-Z or Beyonce, not that level.
I was talking about up and coming power couples in the music industry.
I think they're up there with the likes of,
actually, I can't think of a lot of them.
Anyways, but that means that, the main thing I was wanting to get to
along with the album title announcement octane is that we don't know when the next single is going to come
because i would assume that tyra missu if i'm saying the name right tyra missu i would assume that is a single
for this album now if it's not then of course he has a lot of other things that's not singles that can help
him out whether it's the dojicad track lose my mind from the f1 movie whether it's the track with j hope
from BTS, LV bag,
even though his last album
Hardstone Cycle was his most successful
first week outing, I would assume he's
looking to increase that, especially
for whenever this album
comes out. So the marketing
strategy, I think
needs a hit single. Maybe it
doesn't, but to overtake
Hardstone Cycle
in 77,000 first week, I think that's
going to need a hit single to drive
more engagement to your album.
Because it seems like your core
I could be off, but it seems like your core is 40 to 55.
That's what it seems like.
Your lowest was 40, your highest of 77.
I would say your core is 40 to 45.
Now, you also have to keep in mind that Don Tolliver
is under Cactus Jack Atlantic Records Group.
Oh, hold them now.
I know they ain't Jack Quees Webster.
All right, so if you're under Cactus Jack,
it's safe to say,
Jack Queen knows a lot of different ways to, you know,
rigged the system, allegedly.
But then, you know what I'm saying?
I was like, damn, look at the state of hip hop.
Like, what's going on?
So now if you're under Jack Kreeze-Webster,
I'm pretty sure he can help you on in a plethora of areas.
So now, I believe,
I don't know if you were, you know,
doing more than 77,000 in your first week.
That's kind of tough.
But with the help of Travis Scott,
because how many times was he on Hardstone Cycle?
Let me see.
Travis Scott was on here.
One, two.
he's on here twice okay
okay man this man got features on his album that's crazy
you know man you may have to
pull it you know third times of charm
you may have to be on that next album three times
because Travis Scott does drink
drive a lot of different eyes to projects so
I just think you need a hit honestly
if I was just to give actual advice I would say
you need an actual hit
because the only chart
charting track that I saw from Don Tolliver
was a track with low shimmy I don't even know who that
the track 3 a.m.
Lowe's Shemey
and that's featuring Don Tolliver.
So technically that's low Shemey's track.
But I believe that's the only,
not I believe, objectively speaking,
that's the only track that Don Tolliver has in the Hot 100.
And of course he's not, as far as his album,
he's not in the top 50.
But then, interestingly enough,
you look at Kali Uchers.
And now you see Kali Uchers.
Granted, you could say it's because of a variety of scientists
who's having a phenomenal, one of the best.
R&B years as far as
in just a year
specifically having one of the best R&B
statistical performances with
a single song.
Her and Kalani
were folded.
The main thing I was going to say,
as Mariah the scientist's track, is it a crime
is the 58th most played track in the world
and that's feature in Kali Uches?
So now, when you're looking at it from that standpoint,
yeah, I don't know. I still don't think,
because I was going to say like throw
Kelly Uchis at least multiple times on your
on your next album.
But I think that may be a wave.
I'm just thinking solely of doing more numbers first week than Hardstone Psycho.
Because now you're getting towards the six-figure range, $77,000 first week,
or $70,000 whatever first week with Hardstone Psycho being your biggest.
And that was your last album that came out last year.
So follow that up.
Yeah, I'm not seeing Kelly Uch's anywhere on this album.
I mean, she had a baby, so I mean, that was probably why.
I would assume Don Tolliver and Calliucci's have a track together, right?
Don Tolliver.
Oh my goodness, I spell this name.
Man name.
Don Tolliver.
There we go.
Went to college for a reason.
You know what I'm saying?
Anyways.
Drugs and, oh, this is a PG podcast.
We're just going to say, hell like the location.
Drugs in Hella melodies.
So that's a song that Don Tolliver and Callowice have together.
And of course, they have another track titled For Me.
uh don tolliver and the caliuchess once more so i think those are the only tracks they have so she's
appearing on his album before because of course i think she's doing him a favor i ain't a lot to you
um i do believe objectively speaking caliuchess is bigger than don't tolliver
so those are only two tracks i can see oh no i'm tripper and then they have fantasy
and that's callowice uh and don't tolliver interesting interesting
and then they have i know that's the same one okay so yeah those are only two tracks so as far as don tulliver and
cali ooch's being a couple they have drugs and hella melodies for me and in their fantasy so anyways
i think she's a bigger artist in don tulliver i would get her on your next album i know she just had a kid um so
you know i mean if you if you can you know if you can if you can swing a feature from callie uches
i think that'll help anyways octane is don't
on to all of his next album i kind of try to uh brainstorm to give him some you know advice as far as you
know uh engagement i think when it comes to quality he he does phenomenal especially his harmonies
is top-notch when it comes to engagement is that's another thing like i feel like Travis guy helps
out a lot when it comes to the marketing factor so hopefully you can mix Travis guy and Calli Uches
and drive more eyes to your project but regardless i'm gonna be there whenever uh octane
So that being said, click my link tree in my bio.
Let me know on one of my social media is,
what do you think about Don Tolliver announcing his album, Octane's,
his fifth studio album.
We assume it's set to come out this year,
but, you know, what do you think about his announcement for his album Octane?
