Analytic Dreamz: Notorious Mass Effect - “DRAKE VS KENDRICK TIMELINE EXPLAINED”

Episode Date: July 18, 2023

Linktree: https://linktr.ee/AnalyticDrake VS Kendrick Timeline ExplainedIn this segment of Notorious Mass Effect, Analytic Dreamz breaks down the long-standing rivalry between Drake and Kendrick Lamar. He explores the origins of their beef, the key moments that have defined it, and the latest developments.Analytic Dreamz has been following the Drake vs. Kendrick rivalry closely since its inception. In this segment, he provides his unique insights into one of the most talked-about feuds in rap history.Whether you're a fan of Drake or Kendrick, or you're just interested in learning more about the history of hip-hop, this segment is a must-listenPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

If you're familiar with the podcast, you would know that I consistently call Drake, my goat, as far as hip-hop is concerned. But if you ask my top five rappers, Drake barely makes the list. Because as far as rapping and lyricism goes, I believe they're artists. There are just in every way superior when it comes to lyrical wordplay and double and triple entendres, while also implementing a meaning that's just timeless, a timeless quotable that you can go back to and glean from it and use it in your everyday livelihood. So Kendrick Lamar is also one of those artists

who I think is one of the greatest, I think he is the greatest rapper of the modern generation. And if you want to know my top five, it's Jay-Z, Kendrick, notorious B-I-G, Tupac, and then Drake. So I think that's a pretty solid list. if I do say so myself. But that's besides a point. We're getting into where everybody came here or clicked on this today.

This is what you want to hear. You want to hear the beef between Kendrick and Aubrey Graham. All I got to say is, I don't know what happened. Obviously, they was working in the very early 2010s as Kendrick was on Take Care. And Drake was also featured on Kendrick's album. Good Kid Mad City. And there was both features on ASAT Rocky's

Exhibitive Problems, which you could probably figure out what the expedite meant. I say all that to say, where did it all go wrong? As Kendrick was the opener for Drake alongside ASAT Rocky on Drake's 2012 Club Paradise for Take Care. And it was the most successful tour of 2012.

I mean, Drake and Kendrick on the same tour. I mean, obviously, if Drake and Kendrick was to ever beef, Drake would definitely bring up how Kendrick was opening up for him in 2012. But that's besides the point. What happened to the relationship is a mystery. All I know is when control dropped and Kendrick Lamar dropped almost every prevalent rapper, including Drake in his verse. and said he wanted to raise the bar and rap, it all went south from there. Drake definitely didn't like the control verse. When asked about it, he said, went about my day, got dinner, kept it moving,

and just sounded like an ambitious thought to me. That's all it was. I know good and well that Kendrick's not murdering me in any platform. So when that day presents itself, I guess we can revisit the topic. Spicy ain't it? Then Drake shot back at the control verse from Kendrick saying in the song The Language Off his third album, Nothing Was the Same. He said, forget any expedive that's talking expeditive just to get a reaction.

Forget going platinum. I look at my wrist and it's already platinum. I don't know if that's supposed to be a bar, but I don't know. It was more of a subtle jab. If you don't know, Drake is like, from the school of Jay-Z and subliminal disses. He's probably the best

at giving subliminal disses other than Jay-Z because he's talking directly to you, but not talking at you. I don't know if that makes sense. Anyways. So that's what Drake shot back at the Kendrick Controlverse.

And the Kendrick did a freestyle in the 2013 BET Awards instead of very... I mean, this was like the most direct shot I've ever seen... I don't even think Kendrick ever sent a direct shot like this at Big Sean. But basically, he's playing off Drake's last name,

which we all know is Aubrey Graham, and mocking his image as a sensitive and emotional rapper, which, you know, mental health is a big thing nowadays. You know, in 2020, we probably shouldn't be doing that. But, you know, Kendrick, he's one of the greatest rapper, so he just let it slide. But anyways, he called Drake sensitive and retaliation to the language track.

he said, quote, nothing been the same since they dropped control and tucked a sensitive rapper back in his pajama clothes. Like I said, talking about you, but not at you. Fast forward, 2015. Kendrick drops his third album to Pimp a Butterfly. It takes another shot at Drake because if you don't know, 2015, if you're a Drake fan, you know this. but 2015 was a pivotal rapper,

a pivotal point in this rapper's career in regards to Drake, because he was going through his notorious meek meal beef, and boy, did he change the trajectory of his career after he put out back to back. I think that's still one of Drake's best tracks of all time, simply for the fact of all the pressure he was put under and the way he came out of it,

which is why a lot of people still believe to bring it full circle that now Gunna has the best album of 2023 simply for all the obstacles he had to overcome to give us one of the best albums of 2023 anyways

so fast forward to 2015 Kidger drops his third album to Pimp a Butterfly and he takes a shot another shot at Drake as you know the notorious ghost writing rumors of swirling around and he basically said quote I can dig rap in but I

rapper with a ghostwriter? What the expert have happened? I swore I wouldn't tell, but most of y'all sharing bars like you got the bottom bunk in a two-man cell. Now, if they ain't bars, then hold up. What funkflex when you need them?

Where is Funkflex when you need them? Because I ain't gonna lie. That was, hey, I ain't gonna lie. Hey, that was, what would he say? I think it's muted. Don't tell me it's muted. Bonds, nigga Yeah

Yeah Now listen Uh huh That's cool Mother fucking bars Yeah Talk to him All right

Cool cool All right Let's get back to a regular Let's get your programming So basically That was one of the best bars I've ever heard Like

I swore I wouldn't tell But most of y'all sharing bars Like he got the bottom bunk And the two-man sale Like Hey man That's why I say man Kendrick when it comes to rapping

The best rapping The best rapping in the modern generation But anyways Drake of course was not going to let this slide. What they say slide for, no, let me chill, let me show. I'm a law about a citizen.

I don't believe in that type of terminology. But anyways, Drake did spin the block like there was no where to park. And he basically said, on the song, Z-2-100, I would have all your fans if I didn't go pop

and I stayed on some conscious expetive. Now, who attributes conscious rap to Kendrick? Everyone, right? So Drake took that moment to point out how everybody who's a conscious fan will still be his fan

if he didn't go pop. So that was a direct shot at Kendrick. Like I said once again, he's talking about you, but not directly at you. So in 2016, of course, there was a verbal confrontation that was kind of camera. However, all of the footage,

I mean, all of the footage has been scrapped. destroyed by both of the management teams and will never know what was said, but apparently what Kendrick said to Drake and what Drake said to Kendrick was beyond spicy. It was almost like that footage of MJ and LeBron's only game they played together in some like random camp that everybody has the picture of, but nobody has the footage of. It's like that Drake and Kendrick went at it, but don't nobody have the footage, but apparently it happened.

I mean, if you want to hear more, if you want to hear a more, if you want to hear a little, a in-person account on it. Marcellus Wiley, I believe, was in the room out of all. I know random, right? But Marcellus Wiley, which, you know, he's pretty a vet. He's a veteran in his game at this point. So, you know, he's pretty, he's a reliable source, let's just say, a trustable source. He's like Wodge when he comes to this stuff. Not like Walsh, but, you know, like as far as being in the game long, he's not just making stuff off a clout because he's been in the game so long. but basically this man was in the room when they was going back and forth so if you want to hear his account on how it went down you can look up marcellus wiley and drake and kendrack actually let me see if i can find that right now i don't know how long the clip is that's what i told you to look it up but let me marcellus wiley drake and kendrick because he he talked about it i don't know how long it was six minutes who that's tough and it's a dj flat interview

I can't play the video, because I'm not trying to get taken down by Vlad, but let's just play the audio. I believe he gets straight into it. So you talked about a situation on your show, and you couldn't get into specifics, but it has something to do with Drake and Kendrick beef. I've heard of those guys. Good rappers. So you said, all I know is there was a beef. And all I know is I was witnessed to where the beef would have ignited to proportions we would not have seen since Jail Rule of 50, maybe even Ice Cube NWA. Like, it went there.

but that was destroyed from everyone's property. That was destroyed, that interview. That moment was destroyed. That's all I'm going to say. But I was there and I heard the shots fired. So you had an interview with Kendrick or Drake? Look at that. So you know I'm so transparent, so real.

But I haven't been sworn to secrecy except it was orders given from one person's camp to our company that they should not air it. And only that keeps me from really going all in on who it was, but I will give you the entire story and let you guess it out. Okay. Because I didn't swear it. Okay, okay. So let's hear it.

We're doing our interview. This is when I'm taping Sports Nation, Max Kellerman, myself, my co-host. No Michelle Bito at this time. It's a two-man show. And sometimes we tape, sometimes we go live. to the audience, it usually always looks live, but to us, we may have done it two hours earlier. That day, unfortunately, we were taping.

So we're taping the interview, and we already know that there's something in the air that's going on between these two rappers. We already know there's a little beef there. So we're like, it's our job, like you just asked me, I'm going to ask them, what's up with the beef? Is it real? And all of a sudden, you don't really expect those,

those those hard fastballs to actually the batter that says okay I'm about to take you like that's supposed to be a strike and he tried to hit it and he started talking noise and I was like what like I'm thinking like I'm I'm thinking I'm double excel the source I'm like we got beef like it's going down like this is official and then so we had a follow up me my boy we got chemistry so we're like we're going to stay with this hit him with the with the double up and he doubled down. So we're like, oh my God. So now it's like noon. And all we have to do is wait an hour for our show his live and then the world season and then y'all run with it where you want to.

I love rap beef. As long as it stays peaceful, I love rap beef. Nothing better. Nothing better. Nothing better. Go get it. And then all of a sudden we're walking off set, waiting our time just for the show there or whatever. Ring ring. And then our bosses come up to us and they're like we have to we have to extinguish that interview we have to discard it I was like what why they're like well their camp called and their camp said it that shouldn't be aired and I was like well shouldn't have said it too and I'm thinking in the mindset of if this was live would he have said it and if he did he couldn't take it back but it wasn't so then the they were like it has to go that way one that's not our lane like we

trying to break rap news and in their minds and the corporate mind they're thinking of Tupac and Biggie so they're like if anything this might save us and save some lives I'm like I don't think it's gonna go there but whatever so the moment was lost the tape gone and never aired now the guy in me that says if I ever get fired and I ever just have no job and I can't DJ anymore anything I'm gonna find that tape and I'm gonna sell it and I'm gonna sell it you okay and then we're gonna figure this out together so you're saying it was either Drake or Kendrick oh it was the individual oh yeah this was Drake or Kendrick went on your show when ballistic against the other person yeah and

they both been on our show multiple times because I've seen some stories where people try to put the timeline and oh was it then and then I'm like all I'm gonna tell you is they both been on our show multiple times multiple times so you do the guess word from there because the interesting thing about the Drake and Kendrick beef is they never really went at each other there was like this Kendrick BT freestyle that kind of like, well, there's this control verse,

control verse. All right. And then he starts to, Vlad starts to go over what I already talked about. But basically, so that's the interview from Marcellus Wiley.

And as you can tell, it was beyond spicy. So, where I lost my place. So yeah, so that's where the verbal confrontation happened.

And it was confirmed by Marcellus Wiley because we just heard it was a verbal confrontation. You know, where it was, the footage, like none of that.

So after that, in 2017, Kendrick drops the fourth studio album, which I can't say because, you know, PG podcast. But basically he says, quote, my fans can't wait for me to sun your expeditive and crush your whole little expedite. Our big pun, there's so many experts in here.

Tiptoeing around my name, you lame, and when I get at you, homie, don't you just tell me what you was just playing? Now, to be fair to Kendrick, a lot of people like attributed that to Big Sean, because if you don't know, Kendrick and Big Sean had a little static, but the way that Kendrick ended Big Sean, people literally forgot they had beef. Like, when I hear, like, people would talk about Kendrick, like, he's never had rat beef. I was like, him and Big Sean was like literally going at it.

Like, they'll be on the same track and going at it, like some holy key type stuff, like trying to one up each other on a verse. And Kendrick could always get the better of them, but it was like subliminals back and forth as far as like direct shots. Like it was just one track. I think it was off of the album title, which I can't say because it's a cuss word. But basically there's a, um, God, there was a track where he said like, boy over and over. And the shots that he was taken was directly at Big Sean. Because if you don't know, Big Shine, he says boy a lot, like as far as his tagline.

He was just like, like, I don't know how he blew up with that. He was like, boy, you know, it was like something that like Big Sean was able to get off. But anyways, Kendrick took that, flipped it. And I guess he like gave bars to Big Sean in the way that everybody was just like, okay, well, he outwrapped you now. Like, it's not even a competition. So that, like, back in the day, which I say back in the day, like I'm old. But they used to have Big Sean and the big three of rappers. It used to be Drake.

No, it used to be Kendrick, Drake, and Big Sean. If you don't believe me, just as anybody who is around. that 2010's period. Big Sean was really like that and regarded like that. Like it's a top three rapper in the game. Obviously, not today. Like, you know, people put Germain in that spot. Anyway, that's besides a point.

So Kendrick dead at him to the point where nobody even thinks that's a beef anymore. So fast forward to 2022, Kendrick has a track with Mr. Morrell and the Big Steppers where he mentions Drake. He says, when Kanye got back with Drake, I was slightly confused. First time he ever named dropped Drake, by the way. Guess I'm not as mature as I think. Got some healing to do. Hmm.

Healing to do. I wonder what that means. Maybe they still have beef. So now, Drake took that as a disc, of course, and came back on his track. Backst, no, what was it? It was an unreleased, oh, an unreleased song. I've heard this. At the Gate.

So the track, at the gate, you can look this up now. Drake and Little UziVirt has an unreleased track. title at the gates where Drake takes a shot, a response shot to that bar that Kendrick dropped on Mr. Morale and the big steppers, basically saying, quote, fake woke, you ex parte, fake deep, you ain't no fame before me, which is a, like I keep saying, if they ever beef, I promise you, Drake is bringing up him opening up for Drake in 2012. Like, that's, like, opening up for an artist after that, like, you can't really. really recover. But anyways, he said, fake woke, you exudives, fake deep, you ain't no fame before me,

which is like a callback to that, gave your exfutive a little sneak peek. Now you got to take a back seat. Once again, talking about you, but not at you. Who has a backseat freestyle? Who's, who's quote unquote real conscious in this hip hop game? Who didn't know fame before me going back to the 2012 tour where you was opening up for Drake gave you a little sneak peek which is just another addition to that reference and then Kendrick came back with another

disc and the latest America has a problem remix which that is like fire by the way. This is one funny part while I'm talking side tangent me and my friend we talk about this and it's like it's like don't stop it's like he goes on a whole like he's like don't stop messing up

don't stop messing up. Obviously, he doesn't say mess, but you get this like a peachy podcast. But like, I just thought that was so funny because everybody calls Drake Zesty. That's one of the Zesties boys I've ever heard from Kendrick. It's not wrong with being Zesty, but you know, I guess, you know, teach his own. So anyways, Kendra came back on the America Has a Problem remix, and he basically said, quote, truthfully, I be lying in my rap song because I always failed to mention I slap home. Like, imagine saying you lying because you forget to add that you actually slap him. But anyways, truthfully, I'd be lying in my rap songs because I always failed to mention I slap homie.

His career didn't come with no life insurance. Hope his day one fans got some facts on him. Obviously, that could be attributed to anybody, but like I keep saying, they're definitely talking about each other. So that's what we're all the way caught up. in 2023 now and Kendrick and Drake Beef is still continuing on. Obviously, these are my, some of my favorite rappers, definitely two of my favorite rappers of just my lifespan. So to see them go back and, to see them go back and forth, I really, I don't know, I would

say I mind it, but I honestly, I don't mind them going back and forth because we already, we've already received poetic justice, no pun intended, from Drake and Kendrick Lamar. So it's like, can they ever give us a track better than that? I don't know. And Kendrick and the weekend,

for me, is a better duo than Kendrick and Drake. So, I mean, I would rather Kendrick and Drake beef. Like, if you're going to beef

with one Canadian artist, Drake's the one I'm picking. Like, please don't beef with the weekend. Because Kendrick and the weekend on that Black Panther soundtrack, to this day still one of my favorite tracks of all time so um yeah that's basically it that's the that's the round up of the drake and kensiq lamar beef i think is there anything else i had on them let me see

that's basically it do i think oh this is the ultimate question okay do i think that drake and kendrick will ever have a full flesh beef yes i think it's coming sooner than expected Kendrick is finally out of his deal, his tumultuous deal with TDE, which is why he even took a three-year hiatus in the first place. And he kind of pulled a DJ drama. Remember when Little Uzi Ver, it's a weird correlation, but you got to stick with me if you're a music fan. Remember when Little Uzi Verk went on hiatus and DJ Drama had to find another popular artist and he came up with Jack Hollow and miraculously, little Uzi Verde fell back in line. When Kendrick went on hiatus because of the TDE deal

for those three to four years, he came up with Baby Kim. And now, miraculously, Kendrick Lamar was able to put out his last album to get out of his TDE deal, so he's a free man now. I say all that to say that Kendrick Lamar, even when he's not working, he's working.

Baby Keem is a teary. testament to that. And with Kendrick being out of his TDE deal, I believe all hands are on deck getting ready for this Drake and Kendrick war that's coming in the nearer future. It'll probably happen before the end of this year. So anyways, click my link tree in my bio. Let me know in one of my social media is. What do you think about the Drake and Kendrick Beef? And who side are you on? and who do you think is the best rapper of the modern generation?