Analytic Dreamz: Notorious Mass Effect - "JIN - DON'T SAY YOU LOVE ME"

Episode Date: May 27, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Now, can we just let these brothers have some time? As if you don't know, one of the main reason a lot of these BTS members have to limit their comment section is because of the people coming out and being absolutely irate that these individual members are not together, right? as far as people supporting their individual careers there's been a lot of hate comments towards
Starting point is 00:00:37 BTS including Jen as far as them wanting and feeling like they already earned a right to see them all together as far as BTS because I believe when it comes to their military service they are set to come back June
Starting point is 00:00:57 yeah June of this year I believe. Let me see what the actual reunion timeline is. So they're set to reunite, oh, 2026, I guess they pushed it back, which once again, goes back to my point of them receiving hate comments to the point where they have to limit the comment section on their individual Instagram accounts. But anyways, they're expected to reunite in
Starting point is 00:01:20 2026, though Big Hit came out and suggested a potential reunion around 2025. So I'm not going to lie to you. I don't know who's going to get their way as far as them being on or them being as far as part of the group or individually but it seems like when it comes to big hit when it comes to Jen specifically they really wanted to make it a point to take out all of this controversy as far as them not putting out any group music by limiting their comment sections and only allowing certain accounts to comment. So that's very unfortunate. So anyways, the main thing I wanted to talk about, especially when it comes to Jen, is that he actually has an album that he just put out May 16th of 2025.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And ladies and gentlemen, objectively speaking, currently this man, Jen has the third most popular album in the world. So that being said, safe to say that he's been making a huge impact on the masses, especially with his echo. album to the point where I would say overall when it comes to the BTS members and their mandatory military service as far as Jen as far as Jay Hope, uh, Sugar R.M. Jim and V. Junk. I would say that all of these members did a phenomenal job on their own to keep the BTS fandom alive because Sugar had his run. R.M. had his run. Jimman had his run. Jimman had. his run we don't even have to talk about junk cook at one point junk was one of the most popular musicians period in the world to the point where i remember covering junk cook and basically
Starting point is 00:03:14 talking about how everybody in the mama was trying to get a feature with this man he went from the kid leroy the central c to jack harlowe this is all back in 2023 he went to lotto like all of these artist was coming well i say he went to all of these artists was coming to him because of the monumental run he was having not only in k-pop book of course worldwide as if you don't know when it comes to jim uh when it comes to um gin right as far as jen he currently has seven tracks in south korea as far as charting his track currently is don't say you love me which is actually pretty interesting because of as far as the analytics when it comes to chart dated for may 31st jinn is set to have the seventh most played track in the world like period as far as don't say you love me so it just really shows
Starting point is 00:04:19 you the different levels of engagement worldwide because specifically in his own region in south Korea don't say you love me is only the third most play track i say only like that's not a huge accomplishment but as far as worldwide is set up to be the seventh which is insanity so anyways um i guess who's above him still junk cooking lotto that track people love that track lato and k-pop go hand in hand at this point like that track that they put out together was phenomenal and it did phenomenally on the charts so anyways um getting back into gin in this echo album one of the things i had say is I've never seen an album with so many different versions where the variation is basically one decibel. Now, I literally had to look this up. I was like, what does? Because I kind of knew what
Starting point is 00:05:09 the meant, but I was like, ain't no way they put this out as an actual version. If you look up plus DB, it pulls up the decibel. It's a relatively, I can't even. Okay, is a relative unit of measurement equal to one-tenth of a bell it expresses the ratio of two values of a power or root power quantity on a look look what in the world the like like lagar rhythmic legar rhythmic scale i've never heard that word before i ain't going to not to you uh lagarithmic scale you learn some every day so anyways basically i say all that to say this they turned up the volume and put it out as a whole different version But then you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:56 I was like, damn, look at the state of hip hop. Like, what's going on? All French Montana fans stand up right now because you are excused from class. Because when I tell you, this is the most egregious abuse of putting out variations of an album. And usually I don't have any critique as much as far as the K-pop community. But if y'all support multiple versions of an album, I'm not talking about the regular Echo album. Definitely go get that with y'all. already have as far as you know objectively speaking but varieties of albums when there's one
Starting point is 00:06:31 decibel two decibel three decibel I kid you not if you go to your local well not local if you go to your DSP on your phone right now go to gin you're gonna see at least four albums and guess what the difference is one decibel plus two decibel plus three decibel French Montana fans you are forever excuse this is the most egregious misuse of variations of an album I've ever scene in music history to the point where I had a look up plus db knowing you know what well i knew what that meant i definitely knew what that meant i still had to double check i was like no way no way one of my k-pop brothers out here just trying to manipulate the system but obviously it worked as i wouldn't be surprised if other artists try to mimic this as if you do this strategy
Starting point is 00:07:20 and it ends up helping out the original echo album to the point where another of the other variations with the decibels are on the charts it's only the original echo album so if other artists start to implement this into their marketing strategy guess what guess what's going to happen we're going to have all type of albums and you're going to think french montana has just kids running around this music industry because french montana was the first one he put up the slow version the the semi-slow version, the fast version, the semi-fast version. This man, French Montana was wilding with the variations. But French Montana and Jen have to come to the front of the congregation when it comes to the music industry.
Starting point is 00:08:04 But then, you know what I'm saying? I was like, damn, look at the state of hip-hop. Like, what's going on? You have to answer for your misuse of variations of a single album. And that's it. So that being said, I don't want to stick on that because I do like Jen as an artist. As I've already said, I'm a huge fan of BTS in general. I've covered Junk Cook a lot of times
Starting point is 00:08:22 I've covered Jim in a plethora of times I've covered BT you get the point right I'm a huge K-pop fan when the K-pop comes on it's to the point where I could tell if there's black pink I could tell it that BTS I could tell if that's new jeans like I'm really in I'm
Starting point is 00:08:39 I really dive deep into different genres but more specifically when it comes to the Latin community when it comes to the K-pop community once you see a certain level of support you was already going to do it out of passion but now you take it to another level of okay let me really start to break down what this means as far as in their specific regions so i can give the actual information to the public without making it confusing
Starting point is 00:09:01 so anyways um with that being said please go listen to uh jen's album echo it is seven uh seven tracks 20 minutes at length and with that being said is rock and fluent sound so just know that jen came out himself and said that this is his favorite genre he said that when it comes to echo he contributed songwriting on four of the seven tracks i guess he wanted to mention that because i you know sometimes you got to pull the but then you know what i'm saying i'm gonna make a tanya mirage and come out let them know that you write in your own vs right that's very specific as far as uh an accomplishment under your belt for certain artists so when you come out and say i'm writing my own vs and they sound like this because of what I thought in my brain.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Now other people who put the ideas and not execute it because that's still a form of art, right? Nobody's going to tell Beyonce she's untalented because the dream is writing her songs, right? You still have to execute. So off of that, when you do execute and you write it, you know, you may have to come out and say, you know what, this is my album
Starting point is 00:10:10 and I wrote four out of seven of my tracks. So I would be interested by the other three, but I'm not going to be petty. So anyways, with that being said, The sales are through the roof. He also, when it comes to not topping the charts, you have to think Morgan Wallen, Cizza, of course, is blocking him as far as that number one and number two slot. Morgan Wallen just so 133,000 first week. Safe to say nobody's catching that.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Oh, my fault. 133,000 when it comes to album units. But as far as activity, he had around 490,000, which is beyond insane, especially. when you come to because the activity is basically the album units right and then the streams on top of that so for 190 000 units across the board as far as with streams equivalent to units and then the actual units being bought by by Morgan wallace fans Morgan wallen just blew everybody out of the water like literally if you add it you know how Drake said one time carried the two and they still couldn't around they still kind of add up to what I'm about to do or something like that basically Morgan
Starting point is 00:11:16 Wallen did that was doing that currently with his album I'm the problem he's currently running the music industry with the numbers so you know we already got into him but basically when i tell you all that Jim put up a monumental uh impact out the gate with his album echo and just also submissed the fact that BTS is probably one of the greatest music bands of all time because when have you ever heard of a monumental group like BTS have all the hits under their belt and then be faced with South Korea's banditory military service requiring all of them to enlist by age 28 right and by that rule they all had to go to military and all the members got out at different times and they still went on to release singles by themselves and individual careers and have hits by themselves
Starting point is 00:12:12 by themselves so now not only did they carry the k-pop industry and cross over globally as a group as far as bt s but they also are doing it individually and that's just one of the biggest accomplishments that you can have as a musician because that's essentially showcasing everybody who's a part of bt s is contributing something because if this was to to falter as far as the engagement as far as the excitement factor with the individual artist releases safe to say when it came back as a group it was it would have been that impactful because people would say oh y'all need each other but with this with junk with jimmin with jinn with v already said junk with uh sugar they've shown they could do it individually which is showcase
Starting point is 00:13:00 how bt s may be one of the greatest musical groups of all time so that being said click my link sure in my bio let me know on one of my social medias what do you think about jen's album echo and at the end of the day will you be giving this rock slash k pop album a listen

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