Analytic Dreamz: Notorious Mass Effect - "TIKTOK GOES TO COURT WITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER LAW THAT COULD FORCE COMPANY TO SELL AMERICAN OPERATIONS"

Episode Date: October 2, 2024

Linktree: https://linktr.ee/AnalyticTikTok vs. U.S. GovernmentThe clock is ticking for TikTok. In this segment, Analytic Dreamz dives deep into the legal battle between the popular social media app and the U.S. government.Key points you won't want to miss:A potential ban by January 2025: We explore the new law forcing TikTok's U.S. sale due to national security concerns. Free speech vs. security: Is the government overstepping its bounds? We analyze arguments from both sides on the First Amendment and data privacy.Millions of users on edge: What does a ban mean for creators like Paul Tran, whose business relies heavily on TikTok?Is there a middle ground? We discuss TikTok's proposed security measures and why negotiations failed.The looming deadline and beyond: Can a solution be reached before the ban? We explore potential outcomes and the case's wider implications for online freedom.Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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All right, another major story today. The battle over TikTok, a bipartisan effort to ban the popular app unless it's Chinese owner's sales is facing its first test in federal appeals court today. NBC's Capitol Hill correspondent Ryan Nobles is in D.C. Following that story for us. Hey, Ryan, good morning. analytic dreams video on spotify to see the video along with the audio for my podcast listeners but we are here once again in the ongoing battle between ticot and the u.s government now before

i get more into detail about how the entire case is unfolding uh let's get into one of the major factors as far as the overall lawsuit is considered and And let's continue the video. Hoda, good morning. TikTok's owners, Bight Dance, planned to argue in federal court this morning that not only is this potential ban unconstitutional, it's also not technologically possible. Congress passed the law last year, giving Bight Dance until January of 2025 to divest their interest in the app where the app would no longer be available in the U.S.

lawmakers have argued that TikTok is being used by the Chinese government as a way to capture the data of average American. and to be used as a propaganda tool. Say it ain't so. What the U.S. doing with Instagram, Twitter, let me stop, let me stop. You know, I am a proud American. So, you know, let's not just point out obvious things

that makes us look like a hypocrite, right? So anyways, let's keep going. On the other hand, BightDant says that banning the app would violate the First Amendment rights not only of the company, but of the hundreds of millions of Americans that use the platform. asking the federal court to render a decision soon in order to give the Supreme Court the final say before the ban is potentially set to take effect early next year.

The bottom line, there is still a long road to go. Hey, thank you. So of course that was eloquently put, but the thing you should primarily consider when looking at this entire case is that the law was signed by President, Biden forcing TikTok's parent company bite dance to divest its U.S. assets or face a ban. So this is not some run-of-the-mill type of lawsuit that TikTok is facing. This is basically the head honcho of the United States of America, basically co-signing that TikTok either needs to divest or face a ban in the United States. So no need to reiterate that point or be the dead horse. But one of the biggest, one of the more vital parts of this scenario is Andrew Pinkas.

I think that's how you said? I don't know. Pinedkis. Anyways, TikTok's main attorney claim that this law suit is unfairly targeting the platform and limiting speech based on potential future risk. And they also argue that the band would limit 170 million U.S. users disrupting the ability to communicate uniquely through TikTok. Well, that is definitely a nice point to make as far as word salad being considered.

It holds no weight in a grand scheme of things because I don't know if y'all are old enough to remember Vine, but Vine was at a point where we didn't think that was easily replaceable. And look where we are in 2024. Nobody even brings up Vine anymore. So as far as TikTok being one of the more pivotal places to uniquely communicate, there will always be another copycat app out there that may do things a little bit better than you as far as having a post on a culture that you always have to compete with. But that's just life in general. So, back to TikTok. TikTok denied that they are sharing US user data with the Chinese government stating that divest...

What is that? Hold up. Give me one second. I've never seen this word before. Divestature is technological. Dibestature. Okay, nah, that's too many different syllables for me. That's like a tongue twister. I ain't going to lie to you. So anyways, as you... heard the AI bot readoff divestature is technologically commercially and legally impossible like i said a lot of words sell it so of course the u.s government came back and it was like um

no it's not and you are a national security threat so you are facing a ban unless you divest into american companies so where are we going to find our solution with this law suit. I think the crucial component is the 90 page agreement with the U.S. government as far as what TikTok proposed. If U.S. takes TikTok up on their proposal on including third party management and monitoring as far as its algorithm and content moderation, this will all be resolved. So a lot of people talk about problems but never ever bring up solutions like ever or even suitable solutions for what they're complaining about so this is something i wanted to highlight because it's definitely an important element of this entire lawsuit because if u.s. government accepts

tic tic tux proposal as far as including third party monitoring of his algorithm and content moderation, I think that's a fair middle ground between these two stances that TikTok and the U.S. government has taken. But as of now, it's just a proposal. U.S. government has not taken it yet. And as far as the date that Bight Dance, which is the owners of TikTok, have to find some type of conclusion, either they divest to U.S. assets or they face a ban. And as far as that deadline set by President Biden, they have until January 19th, 2025. As far as TikTok, in the way that the Justice Department is coming at them for violating the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, which is COPA in abbreviation, and then accusing them on the same front of collecting data from children under 13 without parental consent, one could argue. other social media companies like google youtube meta have faced similar lawsuits not even have faiths they have

like factually they face similar lawsuits over privacy and data collection practices for minors in the past so that is why i bring that up when we're talking about ticot because there's no need to make china look like the bad guy in this instance and that's the highlight word and this well highlight phrase in this instance because overall I'm not a political platform but let's just say things are getting interesting right but in this specific instance China seems to be putting forth and actually a fair proposal as far as how to deal with TikTok going forward because Instagram Twitter well I literally just read it off I mean Google YouTube meta which is the owners of everything. Basically, they have went through these antitrust and privacy lawsuits in the past. So

TikTok is just no different. The only thing with TikTok is that it is owned by China, which is why this unique language is only used in this specific instance because it's China owned. So when you come to divest into U.S. assets or face a ban, Instagram can't face that type of verbiage. Twitter is not going to face that type of verbiage. Google is not going to ever face that type of verbiage. So that is what makes this so distinctly unique is that TikTok will continue to be one of the most influential platforms on the planet or on the planet. and the U.S. Supreme Court definitely has a couple issues with that as far as the amount of data they're collecting from their citizens.

So that's the biggest thing when we get into TikTok. Something else that I wanted to touch on was people coming out talking about how this legal confrontation not only affects TikTok's future in the U.S., but in a broader scope, it does shine the light on the next. national security privacy free speech i mean there's a lot of things that's being touched on with this lawsuit that people don't really want to address as far as the our own issues in the united states so targeting something that's owned from overseas is very peculiar when your own companies in america don't follow the same guidelines so that's the only thing that's the main thing i wanted to talk about because at the end of day, I mean, so many different companies make money from

TikTok and if they're willing to throw five to 200 to 300 million dollars away as far as the collaborative promotion they'd be getting from TikTok, then I mean, I guess it's up to them to effectively rule in the favor of TikTok or the United States government when a ruling a decision when a ruling decision is made by December 6th. So with that being said, click my link to your in my bio and let me know on one of my social media is. What do you think about TikTok versus the U.S. government? And at the end of the day, which side are you on?