Analytic Dreamz: Notorious Mass Effect - "TIKTOK HAS SIGNED THE DEAL TO SPIN OFF ITS U.S. ENTITY WITH AMERICAN INVESTOR GROUP"

Episode Date: December 30, 2025

Linktree: ⁠https://linktr.ee/Analytic⁠Join The Normandy For Additional Bonus Audio And Visual Content For All Things Nme+! Join Here: ⁠https://ow.ly/msoH50WCu0K⁠In this segment of Notorious Ma...ss Effect, host Analytic Dreamz delivers a comprehensive breakdown of the landmark TikTok-U.S. investors deal aimed at averting a nationwide ban. Analytic Dreamz examines the binding agreements announced via CEO Shou Zi Chew's internal memo, shifting TikTok's U.S. operations to majority U.S. investor control for its 170+ million American users.Key details include the new joint venture structure: 50% owned by U.S.-aligned investors (Oracle 15%, Silver Lake 15%, MGX 15%), with ByteDance at 19.9% and affiliates at 30.1%—keeping Chinese ownership below 20% to meet U.S. requirements. A 7-member majority-American board will oversee independent operations, including data protection, content moderation, and algorithm security.Analytic Dreamz explores the sensitive algorithm retraining on U.S.-only data to prevent foreign manipulation, potential shifts in user experience, data storage via Oracle, and the $14 billion valuation. The segment covers political context, Trump's deadline extensions to January 23, 2026, targeting closure on January 22, ongoing Chinese approval uncertainties, creator impacts on 7+ million businesses, and bipartisan skepticism.Tune in as Analytic Dreamz analyzes how this reshapes TikTok's future amid U.S.-China tensions. Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Now ladies and gentlemen, all it takes is just a little reading. As I was looking at this deal saying, oh, this is a W or the United States of America. And then hold on now, I saw the final outcome depends on Chinese regulatory approval. You guys. See, that's the problem. Now, of course, this could be compared to the Warner and Netflix deal, as that's, technically was announced by both companies and of course as far as it may be being a monopoly the deal may not go through so there's still a lot of obstacles they got to overcome but as far as what
Starting point is 00:00:45 i'm specifically getting into as far as ticot divesting to the u.s expected to successfully close by january 22nd or 23rd of 2026 basically the reason why i'm a little skeptical not a lot i do believe that at the very minimum this means that ticot will never be just completely. completely eradicated from the face of the earth, well, not the face of the earth, but the face of the United States, right? Because it did happen before, but that was, uh, that was bite dance taking TikTok from U.S. It really wasn't the government. It was like, no, I promise you don't have to, we're not going to take your account down. You can put it back up, right?
Starting point is 00:01:21 When he was giving them all the time in the world to figure out how they was going to divest. Essentially speaking, the reason why I give a little pushback or just, I'm a little skeptical is because when you look at, China specifically, which I do believe I have it on here. Yeah, when you look at Chinese regulators, they have not publicly approved the transaction. Nowhere have I seen them publicly approving the transaction. But the Chinese foreign ministry did respond and refer to the inquiries as, quote, competent authorities. What does that mean? The world may never know.
Starting point is 00:01:58 You guys. And then reiterated, China. as consistent well quote consistent and clear end quote position so people are saying china could still block or delay the deal so it's not a hundred percent certain it's just some type of progress i guess is better than none because at the very minimum like i keep saying ticot will at least remain available in the u.s and this deal is expected to successfully close by january 22nd or 23rd 26 anyways with that out the way I will again to the whole timeline of of the United States and TikTok but of course I don't want to bore you all the main thing that you need to know is that they
Starting point is 00:02:43 finally came to some type of agreement seemingly as TikTok has signed a binding agreement to place its U.S. operations under majority U.S. investor control and the announcement came via an internal memo from CEO Shao Z. Chu obtained by ABC News, Bloomberg, and others. So taking this with a, well, not take the, those are excellent sources. That ain't go to like to you. Basically, the goal is to avert a U.S. ban and keep the app available for 170 plus million American users. So when you look at that, the deal is expected to close January 22nd, 23rd, or 2026.
Starting point is 00:03:31 The reason why I keep reiterating that is because it hasn't happened yet. So no need to be like, oh, it's set in stone. It could always change. But as of right now, it hasn't. But now it's time to dive into the details. Because ladies and gentlemen, who are the investors? Well, I'm glad you asked. As you look at it, the TikTok U.S. Align investors,
Starting point is 00:03:57 there's the Oracle, Silver Lake, MGX, and then the existing bite dance investors include U.S. funds. like general Atlantic what in the actual I've never seen that word before I'm not going to cap to you hold up I need Jarvis to read that out what what type of word is that
Starting point is 00:04:15 give us April 2024 give it a second hold on nope that's not that's not that's not the word at all all right so we may have to do a little Mickey research because I don't know what in the world that's where it is even even AI was like I'm not reading that at all
Starting point is 00:04:32 let's see how to say I ain't gonna lie this is what podcast is do 24-7. Well, they should be doing. All right, let's find out how to... You are looking... Let's figure out how to say this word.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I don't even know how to, like, even give you a hint. As well as her to say more. Native American names or look this word. Delaware or more video. Like this video, if you found a useful, I appreciate your support more. Susquehanna. What? Huh?
Starting point is 00:05:00 No, bro. You guys. See, that's the problem. I... No, bro, run it back. Run it back. You're not speaking. English. Run they back. Is what it means
Starting point is 00:05:10 Susquehanna. Susque... But then, you know what I'm saying? I was like, damn. I didn't go to college for this, man. What in the world? Run they back one more time. Oista is what it means. Susquehanna. Susquehanna? Man, I ain't go kept to you, learn something every day. When they said that, I thought it was a cliche.
Starting point is 00:05:32 So, um, back to what I was saying. That was crazy. Existing bite dance investors include U.S. funds like General Atlantic, Susquehanna via board members William Ford Arthur
Starting point is 00:05:46 Danchik and Sequoia Sequoia Capital Anyways Basically the reason why I say all that is because if you just want to look up those names in your own time to feel free to do so As far as the percentage splits
Starting point is 00:06:02 Right You have Oracle with 15% Silver Lake with 15% MGX with 15% And you looked at the China linked ownership, which is bite dance, which is 19.9% and affiliates of existing bite dance investors is 30.1%. Now, having bite dance ownership below 20% aligns with the U.S. executive order requirements. If you was wondering why they still have some percentage, like they're still going to keep a certain amount. But of course, as far as the executive order, it had to be below 20%.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Now, of course, bite dance is probably not to happy. with this deal but when you look at them in their revenue because you know we had the pocket watch and effectively we pocket watched as as Bloomberg you know estimates that 2024 they made around $155 billion ladies and gentlemen that is actually insane so I don't think that they are too happy with this type of deal but of course they've made all the money in the world I don't know who's going to feel bad for them people are probably saying who do and suck it up so also as far as the seven member board of directors that would govern TikTok US reportedly it's Rubo Lang
Starting point is 00:07:22 No no yeah the chairman is Rubo Lang Then you have the members which is Arthur Dantichick from the Susquehanna William E. Ford You have Xavier Neal Neil Shin That's only four Okay Rubo Ling makes five
Starting point is 00:07:40 I don't know who the other two is. They're not saying the other two. Interesting. I guess, no, actually, that's for, that's for bite dance. Okay. So I guess we don't know who the seven members are. Dang, I thought we did. Oh, I literally looked that up, but it's not showing me right now.
Starting point is 00:07:59 So anyways, upon closing the deal, but there is going to be seven member board. We just don't know the name specifically. Majority of the board members is reported to be American as mandated by the U.S. policy. And of course, upon closing, the TikTok U.S. US will operate as an independent entity responsible for US data protection, content moderation, algorithm, security, software assurance. Now, the algorithm I thought was the biggest portion of this. I thought that the main thing was them figuring out how in the world is TikTok having one of the most authentic tools for musicians in the past two to three years because I'm not going
Starting point is 00:08:36 to want to you. If you blow up on a clip and TikTok, that could send you to the moon as a musician. TikTok is one of the few, maybe the only app to really be able to take you to stardom via organic push, right? I know everybody uses social media, but as far as a musician, I believe TikTok is one of the most authentic and organic ways to have superstar-like marketing similar to if you was under Warner, Sony, or UMG. Because of course, after TikTok goes viral, for some reason, the, um, basically the people who look at those clips the more likely to co-actually listen and support your track and support your music and that's very different from a lot of different social media so tictox algorithm i thought was always the most sensitive asset so now under the agreement the u.s entity will retrain the algorithm using u.s only user data so i'm not going to like to i'm not trying to be the bearer of bad news but if you're a musician you may have to use a vpn or you might have to get it in while you can because it seems like once this deal goes through
Starting point is 00:09:54 around january 22nd 23rd of 2026 you may no longer have the ultimate algorithm that is ticot it may be well not maybe it's literally saying the u.s entity will retrain the algorithm using US only user data, which I think is not going to be the same algorithm. I ain't going to cap to you. But the objective is to ensure feeds are free from external, which is foreign, manipulation. Huh. Interesting. So BightDance is expected to license its AI recommendation technology to TikTok US. Oh, okay, okay. Hold on now. Hold on now. That's a W. So it may be the same. It may be the same, but they're saying that the training data inputs will be different and as a result it will be a
Starting point is 00:10:47 noticeably different user experience so i just clapped it up and now i got to play the other job you guys see that's the problem goes back to my original point it may not be the same tictock around january 22nd to 23rd so that that's very um i think that's the most important part so let me read that again bite dance is expected to license this a i recommendation technology to ticot u.s but the the U.S. entity will retrain the algorithm using U.S. only user data. So that means the training data inputs will be different and a noticeably different user experience will be had. I don't know whether that's a positive or negative.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I'm just giving it to you like it is. So I already talked about China's position. The main thing I was going to talk about is, of course, the algorithm is going to be different if this deal goes through around January 22nd. And TikTok has 170 million plus U.S. users, seven plus million U.S. small businesses marketing on TikTok. Millions of creators depending on TikTok income. As far as me, I'm a podcaster. I always talk about, you know, my dealings with Red Circle on Spotify.
Starting point is 00:11:56 But for people who solely make their money on social media, I do believe this is very important to pay attention to on whether the deal goes through or not. Because as far as what I'm reading, it seems like it's going to go through significant changes in this. it's never going to be the same algorithm that you have once come to love, right? Which may be a stretch. It could be completely the same, but I doubt it. I completely doubt it. I'm not going to lie to U.S. only data compared to entire TikTok's data. I think it's going to be a different algorithm.
Starting point is 00:12:27 So a lot of people are concerned over the potential censorship, which I don't know. How does that work? Wouldn't it be better with the censorship being in the U.S.? Because TikTok's algorithm is crazy? Like even for me personally on my profile, not shameless plug, I'm just letting you know. When I post, sometimes I think it's promotional material because what I do is mostly informative. So they think I'm trying to promote something, right?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Oh, you're promoting this video game? Are you promoting this track? Like, no, I'm just talking about it in detail. Right? So then I have to appeal it and then the appeal is successful. I know a lot of people who go through that same process. It's very annoying how you go on TikTok, you maybe go live, some random little Timmy reports your page and now the whole live gets taken down.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I haven't really dealt with this because I don't go live on TikTok. But basically, once you appeal it, it always goes through. It's like successful. And then you come to realize like, bro, anybody could do whatever they want to your post, not post, but like you're live stream. So people stop going live on TikTok. And once again, with the posts, like I just said, with the random censorship to where you have to put in an appeal and they get successful.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Like, it's not like a burden, but it's like an unnecessary obstacle. So I'm going out on the limb and saying that US taking over. I think the censorship will be better, but that's just me. As far as the algorithm changes, like I said, I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be worse. I think it's not going to be as good as it is now, once January 22nd comes around. Monetization, not really too, you know, I'm not really concerned with that. So that's basically it. But you know it's serious because senators came out.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Yes, ladies and gentlemen, Senator Ron Wyden came out and says the deal does not, says the deal does. not meaningfully protect U.S. user privacy and say questions whether algorithm control is truly safer. Interesting. I thought I had somebody else that came out, but I guess not. I think it's basically it. I'm trying to see Chinese. Yeah, that was basically it. I thought I had another quote from somebody. But, you know, the Senator Ron Wyden, you know, shout to him, I guess. Let's see if, okay, I already talked about the foreign ministry response, saying that, you know, quote, competent authorities. Nobody knows what that means like what the world.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Like they asked about it. He's like, oh, competent authorities were consistent and clear about our position. So I did want to end off on this. So with this whole deal, once again, all you need to know is that TikTok officially signed the binding agreements to place its U.S. operations under majority U.S. investor control. but the deal hasn't went through. The successful closing will be estimated to be around January 22nd. And of course, it still depends on Chinese regulatory approval and Trump's legal certification. So that being said, click my link, sure in my bio, let me know on one of my social medias.
Starting point is 00:15:24 What do you think about TikTok as a whole? And do you believe that this deal will go through successfully January 22nd of 2026? Thank you.

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