Analytic Dreamz: Notorious Mass Effect - "YOUNG THUG - CLOSING ARGUMENTS (GUNNA DISS)"

Episode Date: September 6, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Ladies and gentlemen, Master Splinter is at it again, as not only is P.W. Roscoe on the list. Gunna. Migos. Pierre P. Thomas? Y.S.L. Woody. I mean, this list goes deep. What side seven say? I can go further. I promise. But then, you know what I'm saying? I was like, damn, look at the state of hip hop. Like, what's going on? And last but definitely not least, Little Dirk and Kendrick Lamar himself.
Starting point is 00:00:39 But then, you know what I'm saying? I was like, damn, look at the state of hip hop. Like, what's going on? Now, ladies and gentlemen, I just know that as far as the disc track closing arguments by Young Thug, Fonnie Willis was essentially in the courtroom saying to herself. He's been so good. okay he really asked you have been the perfect gentleman young thug is currently being the perfect gentleman for fanny willis and you're probably thinking to yourself i know that ain't who i think it is why are you saying fanny willis is appreciating young thug at this very moment well i'm glad you asked ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 00:01:23 we're going to get to the disc track in the second but there's a lot of other details that make this more poignant as far as the highlight of illegal activity yes ladies and gentlemen you guys see that's the problem here is the problem as when it comes a young thug if you don't know this man is currently under a specific thing called a plea deal now what does that mean you might ask right i'm no expert lawyer right but some would say that as far as looking at his plea deal based on the ysl rico mind you which is why He's even in the free land being able to do what he wants. Essentially, the plea deal has a lot of interesting lines, such as restrictions, ban contact with YSL affiliates or co-defendants, right?
Starting point is 00:02:12 Except for Gunna and his brother due to contractual reasons, right? But then it seems like Woody, Yagotty don't really quantify what the probation line was saying he should avoid. And if you don't believe me You know, wreck We did wreck Fuck that nigga Obama He's still mad by baby mama But then you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:02:39 I was like 10 look at the state of hip hop Like what's going on? You know as a law of Biden citizen It's very intriguing To see people who break the law Fall into the same mouse trap Now isn't that A crazy coquinky dink
Starting point is 00:02:54 You guys See that's the problem At the end of the day That's only one of the reasons I'm saying that this is is a huge deal regardless of how it came out because of course people are going to say oh it was a leak there's no way fawney willis could cook some up to put young thug back in back in prison for a whopping 20 years because if you don't know if he violates his probation there's a 20 year backloaded
Starting point is 00:03:18 sentence now as far as the war as far as the war in rat latina which a lot of people is calling it I don't understand how 20-year backloaded sentence doesn't take you away from acting out as far as looking at the time you could possibly serve. Because if I'm looking at it correctly, right, if you're doing certain actions in this district, which I think it's fire, by the way, like, you know what I mean? Don't stop me as a law-abiding citizen. I am loving the circus. But at the end of the day, somebody has to call this out because if you're really looking at it from an actual fan perspective, then you're probably understanding that young thug is risking a 20-year backloaded sentence just so people don't call him a rat.
Starting point is 00:04:06 But then, you know what I'm saying? I was like, damn, look at the state of hip-hop. Like, what's going on? And it's very interesting as he also has an interview with Aiden coming out soon. But besides that, let's put that to the side. Because right now we're specifically focusing on the disc track titled Closing Arguments. Ladies and gentlemen, Fannie Willis may actually use this track. in her closing arguments.
Starting point is 00:04:29 You guys. See, that's the problem. Anyways, exhibit number two. Isn't that how they say it in court? Anyways, there's another line in the plea deal, right? It says the deal mandates young thug to refrain from advocating, glorifying, or promoting gang related activity. Hold up, man, I was talking.
Starting point is 00:04:51 If you kill one of my dog shit, I'd rather never end it. You guys. See, that's the thing. the problem you know sometimes covering the the sport of hip-hop i look at the entire landscape because i covered the entire landscape of music and i just realized you know other genres i don't know if i just haven't dive deep into certain genres but it seems like it just seems like the IQ and the whereat-all to not break the law when you're making millions of dollars off music it's just not there i know that
Starting point is 00:05:25 who I think it is. So anyways, as far as the deal before I was rudely interrupted by Jeffrey, um, the deal mandates that young thug refrains from advocating, the advocating glorifying or promoting gang related activity. He said, only cost 300 being something. Hold on, he said what?
Starting point is 00:05:46 If you win a nigger twin, they would a truck, you squish your kids. Okay. Pussy, pussy. Okay. I don't know how that would like take away from the probation line like there's nothing really in this song that I think could really end him up in not going to find no punch bad I'd rather keep on spinning if you kill one of my dog shit I'd rather never end it
Starting point is 00:06:10 nigger get your homie touch than it won't cost me jacepin inside knock on lie that is a fantastic line but guess who also thinks it's a fantastic line ladies and gentlemen talking about her and i'm just he's been so good okay he really has you have been the perfect gentleman this distract from young thug title closing arguments is proving how much of a gentleman young thug is he literally handcrafted the perfect argument for fony willis to put him back in prison and i never advocate for black man to be put in prison but we did talk about all the way back when had i covered this as far as him being released right when young thug was released off of the ys lrico and he came out with business is business we talked about how there were certain things he couldn't talk about so he
Starting point is 00:07:03 was rapping about his luxurious lifestyle staying away from the gang activity and alluding to any whacking or slime or taking people out and it just so happens that the war in ratlanta was all it took for this man to revert back to his old ways which is a It's very much a shame, right? So now, diving into the actual disc track, you're probably wondering to yourself, wind a world, would he co-sign this? Well, of course, they are basically releasing this under the form of a leak. So technically, if they go to court for this, that's going to be the argument.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I don't think it's a great one, but hey, we thought the YSL RICO counter argument from YSel and Brian Steele wasn't the greatest and he still got off. so you never know how that goes but 2015 just know they're gonna met young thug and that's when it all happened because of course as far as this specific episode i just wanted to let you all know that the war in ratlanta is going to go down in the history books for an indefinite amount of time because from a 2015 to 2025 buildup this is almost a drake and kindrick type of buildup as far as a decade worth of animosity and now is bled over into it's split filling out into the to the masses to see what young thug was feeling towards people i mean he was
Starting point is 00:08:28 saying all type of things i mean at one point on one of the phone calls he told his manager or whoever that kendrick lamar is too sexy to not be posting on instagram now this is the amount of information that we have that we know that young thug is saying this on the phone call you guys see that's the problem now there's nothing wrong with a phone call but the main thing was the interrogation back in 2015 that basically um had peewee raskill in the crossfires as far as the little wayne but shooting right so there's a lot of things that goes into this disc track that's going to make it iconic i believe the disc track as a song is fire i like when people put the personal experiences into the music but you have to keep in mind when you are not a law-abiding citizen and now there's
Starting point is 00:09:18 restrictions to your musical offering, you cannot go around that by saying it's a leak. But to be fair, Bonnie Willis and them, they've been leaking a lot of information as far as different phone calls and things of that nature. At first, I thought it was Gunner's camp. And then, of course, now we come to realize that it really doesn't make any sense for Gunner to expose himself for having fake streams, right? As far as exposing young thug, that's one thing. but if you're going to expose young thug for exposing you for having a fraudulent number one as far as you versus the weekend all the way back in what was it 2023 2020 i forget but when ds forever came out and the weekends hurry uh don fn came out and surprisingly one of the biggest upsets in hip hop history that we now have figured out is fraudulent which is insanity right same thing that drake was talking about with the red button but that that's that's need to hear no there right fraudulent streams ended up getting gonna
Starting point is 00:10:15 the number one spot over the weekend and safe to say young thug coming out saying he spent 50 000 for him to get that number one just is a huge blemish on the entire music industry but then you know what i was like 10 look at the so at the end of the day when looking at this this track there's no lyrics up because of course you know i work around the clock 24 7 because you know somebody got loved their job right so i don't know what people who usually run the lyric websites are doing but they just not up to enough. So on NME plus for my NME plus subscribers, we're going to be breaking down the song line by line because it's not out on DSPs. It's a leak. So technically, it's not put out by any major label we could cover it and things of that nature. So if Yontha goes the route of calling this
Starting point is 00:11:04 AI, I think that would be the best argument. And hear me out, AI has evolved so much that that would be an actual argument that you could use if actually it's going to be it's a stretch but hey bryan still cooked up better than that and got thug and had thug walk away free so this is definitely escalating the rift in the alana rap community because of course the war in latrata is is a phenomenal name by the way and essentially speaking the Atlanta rap scene is being ruined as we speak. I think the only thing that could counteract this is future or 21 Savage dropping a project or saying where they stand on the matter.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Atlanta used to be perceived as the most camaraderie type of rap scene in the world, which is why they was blowing up, right? Young Thug, 21 Savage, baby, future, they had hits from all over Atlanta as far as superstars in the rap game. But now, I don't think it's only because of Young Thug. There was a lot of other things that went along with it. You know, as far as Metro booming and the whole thing that he started with Kendrick, some Atlanta rappers, I'm not going to say who, right?
Starting point is 00:12:27 And I'm just going to say my sources are I made it up. Some Atlanta rappers wasn't really messing with the fact that they let Kendrick say all of that about the big three for no reason. Because really, if you look back then, there was really no reasons, right? then call out Whitney yet they were just trying to get him on first person shooter Kendrick jumped out the window said I hate all y'all there's no big three there's just big me right and to do that on a song with future and metro on it when future is arguably the most influential hip-hop artists in the past 20 years a lot of Atlanta artists had a problem with Kendrick saying that on a track with future in metro if you're not following me then you're just
Starting point is 00:13:07 going to be lost i'm not going to spell it out there's certain superstars in atlanta who do not think that move was the greatest so anyways with that being said young thug is essentially going to follow up this alleged this track via an interview with ad of ross i believe sunday so september 7th we'll see if that ends up going into fruition because um this disc track even though they're saying there's a leak this is going to cause a lot of turmoil to the point where Brian Steele may go bald by the end of 2025. There's only what? This month or this September, October, November, December. There's only four months left in the year.
Starting point is 00:13:51 By the end of the year, I kid you now, Brian Steele may lose all of his hair, all of his hair because of what Young Thug is putting him through. The things that Young Thug has been saying, the things that he's been tweeting and deleting, he's been crossing the line. He's been really tiptoeing. but the one time he did cross the line is when he had a tweet and delete i forget what it was but young thug basically came out and essentially i forget exactly what the tweet was i don't know if i can find it uh let me see if i could find it okay yeah so right here so young thug back in november twenty twenty four deleted his tweet dis and gunna stop acting like we friends he tweeted that out
Starting point is 00:14:35 Stop acting like we friends And then deleted it Why do you think he deleted it You think somebody got in his ear And probably told him Hey you have 20 years On the back end my brother Do you want to really violate your probation
Starting point is 00:14:45 Just over a petty beef? I guess so But then you know what I'm saying I was like damn look at the state of hip hop Like what's going on And then of course When people were advocating for Gunna Saying it was all part of the plan
Starting point is 00:14:58 And then Young Thug came out And named little And named Gunna and little baby track says he's only worked with him for troop gunner responds and prototype calling tweet a typo basically insinuating that the november 2024 tweet was really from thug and it wasn't like no hack that he tried to prove like because there's a lot of things he's doing to get around the plea deal he can't really elicute like he would like so he does these round about ways of getting his message out there, which is still breaking the law. Right. But with young thugs power
Starting point is 00:15:41 in the hip-hop game, some would say that he could get away with it. We just seen what happened with Diddy as far as him and what he's going to get as far as a lighter sentence because he beat the racketeering charges, right? And he was only, well, I say only. He was guilty for the transportation for prostitution charge or something like that. Anyways, he wasn't. He wasn't And he was founded innocent for the racketeering charges, which would have held like life. So, but Young Thug, he got off on similar charges. I think he did have to say why so was a game. But nonetheless, a huge plea deal was given to him for him to be in a free world.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And despite of that, he still is risking the 20-year backloaded sentence because of the plea deal. Right. So it's very interesting. At the end of the day, I don't like getting into just, oh, did he snitch? Did he not? But this is attached to music. So guess what? We're going to cover music.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I mean, some would say we may have a... It's time for a rap battle! Hey, hold up now. Who in the world? Hey, go over there. What? Who can... Who's over here saying something like that?
Starting point is 00:16:51 Ain't nobody like... It's time for a rap battle! I don't think Gunna's going to respond. And for people who's wanting a rap battle... battle. I do believe at the end of the day, Gunna and Young Thug could have one of the greatest hip hop rap battles from a Sonic's perspective, right? Sonically, it could be pleasing because I'm not going to lie to you. This, this alleged leak from Young Thug, as far as closing arguments, it's straightfired. And as far as him leaking this and basically copying how Fannie Willis team has been leaking information to showcase how Young
Starting point is 00:17:31 thug is out here basically talking about everybody and the mama one of my favorite groups of all time literally had a skit on this and i thought this was perfect timing because of course who else would be able to capture this type of energy except for these people because when it comes to this i think a lot of people was letting it um letting the fact that maybe the government is messing with young thug they was sweeping out under the rug and i think it needed to be called out and of course y'all know I'm a huge RDC fan. And safe to say, our worlds are intertwining once again, as they are right here breaking down how the government is literally leaking the
Starting point is 00:18:13 yunthug calls to make him look bad. So here we go right here. Shout out to RDC. Analytic Dreams video on Spotify to see the video along with the audio. Buddy talking about Iceman. Anybody waiting for no Iceman or drop? They're waiting for the spider. She, fuck around and call the whole spider.
Starting point is 00:18:26 First off, the way he's like fast talking. if you listen to Yonthot calls, I don't know how in the world this may be talking that fast. I'm like, he has all the time in the world, no pun intended. And he's speaking at two times, two times speed. Like, I'm thinking to myself, come on man. Like, what in the world? You guys. See, that's the problem. This man definitely has the most fluent speech for somebody who mumble raps. But anyways, with that being said, let's get back into it. But he's talking about Iceman. And nobody waiting for no Iceman or drop. They're waiting for the spider. She got a fuck around and call the whole Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:18:58 you tell me that's not going platinum first week See? That's not touching 100K first week That's not talking to a hundred K? No A drink is? Bro, everybody coming in and drink, bro. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah, yeah, that could be true. That could be true. I mean, shit, I got them talking shit about Beyonce. Hold on, let me look at this list, but I ain't really look at the list like that. There's a Michael Jackson did this. All right, that's funny. A little baby. The seventh.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Yeah, come. I know that ain't who I think it is. Kaisanette diss, Chris Brown diss, Outcast, Beyonce, Dills. I ain't gonna lie that cost in that one Drake may cook that up himself but that's a whole not discussion but then you know what I'm saying I was like damn look at the state of hip hop like what's going all right let's keep going which I think the Tyler Perry this would be about probably be like soldier boy in that breakfast club you know what I'm saying stole my whole swag bar for bar flow
Starting point is 00:19:47 for flow you know what I mean yeah outcast uh Chris Brown let me hear that Chris Brown C B need to worry about Genuant because that's the discussion they happen. They're talking about CB or Genuine. Which one y'all pick CB or Genuine? I got Genuine. No, you got the speech patterns down and everything. This is crazy. Genuine? That's what niggins talking about?
Starting point is 00:20:11 I don't know. I don't think so, though. But that could go gold in the streets doesn't. That sounds random. It's weird for it. Bookmark that. Bookmark that. Oh, Tupac. That nigga does Tupac? Tupac. Play that. I got you. See, what niggas now understanding is that Tupac shit was fake. He just
Starting point is 00:20:26 an actor. He wasn't really with a gangster shit. He was just bought. No, I get the point, right? I'm gonna finish his eyes. It's only like 33 seconds left. Oh, man, too much talking about was being a thug. Oh, I got one that's going to go diamond. Man, sure.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Come on. Got one that's going to go diamond. What you mean? I'm not here to make jokes work. I ain't going to say nothing too much. Everybody can name a Michael Jackson on, but who Michael Jackson put on? No, wait, wait, wait. Don't that right now.
Starting point is 00:20:53 You can't name one person with Michael Jackson put on. Who, got them Chris Tucker? Come on now. Ain't anybody watching no Chris Tucker no more. That was back of the day, it's rush hour. That's the last time we seen Chris Tucker. I'm telling you right now that Jackson Pogne. They're checking for the Lone of 3.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Me, William's the other. I love to call back to the other one talking about when people from dangerous cities, but they sound sweet or whatever, the King of Pop stuff. Anyways, I told you I'm a real RDC fan. Anyways, with that being said, that's the main thing I want to end with because ladies and gentlemen, people think it's a joke. Whole time, government trying to have young thug locked up for 20 plus years. So safe to say when it comes to this,
Starting point is 00:21:25 Rat Lanna, Mantra, and him being perceived as a rat. At the end of the day, all I want to ask young thug, I want to ask Jeffrey. Hold on, what's his man in real name? Young thug, real name. I want to ask Jeffrey Lamar Williams II.
Starting point is 00:21:42 It's being called a rat really worth it to risk 20 years on a back-end sentence. Mm-mm-mm. But then, you know what I'm saying? I was like, damn, look at the state of hip-hop. Like, what's going on? So with that being said, ladies and gentlemen, make sure to click my link to you in my bio.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Let me know one of my social medias. What do you think about Young Thugs? The latest distract the gunna and a plethora of other people titled Closing Arguments. And do you think at the end of the day, Young Thug did all that snitching just to snitch on himself and finish his career in the end?

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