Ancient Aliens - Jacques Vallee: UFO Pioneer

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

Dr. Jacques Vallee holds multiple scientific degrees, is a best-selling author, and is one of the fathers of the internet. But he is best known for his revolutionary work in the field of UFOs..., and his bold theories challenge our notions of alien life. Will Dr. Vallee’s incredible work soon lead to answers about what has been happening in our skies for thousands of years?See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:49 Jacques Valet was one of the first to suggest the UFO phenomenon dates back thousands of years. Jacques Valet asked the question, these ancient stories that we have, are they identical to modern-day UFO phenomenon? And his bold theories dare to challenge not only our notions of extraterrestrial life, but of the universe itself. There are very few concepts that are standard in every part of human civilization. UFOs are, and they are across time. This is real and it's important. There is a doorway in the universe. Beyond it is the promise of truth.
Starting point is 00:01:35 It demands we question everything we have ever been taught. The evidence is all around us. The future is right before our eyes. We are not alone. We have never been alone. In 1952, the United States government launched its first major investigation into the UFO phenomena called Project Blue Book. More than five decades later, in 2007, the government initiated its second serious UFO project
Starting point is 00:02:14 called the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, or ATIP. There is only one man who was a key contributor to both of these efforts, and he remains at the forefront of UFO research even today. Dr. Jacques Valle. Here's Paul Heineck, son of Project Blue Books lead scientific advisor, Jay Allen Heinek. I don't know of anybody else like Jacques Valet in the UFO field. He brings scientific background, artificial intelligence, computer engineering training, and insatiable curiosity to the phenomena.
Starting point is 00:02:54 This is Chris Abeck, co-author of Wonders in the Sky. He has degrees in mathematics and astrophysics and a PhD in computer science. And his ideas have had such a tremendous impact on uphology as a serious subject. It validates its study among academics. George Knapp is an investigative journalist. Jacques ballet is, in my estimation, not only the deepest thinker, but the best right-reiberg, but the best writer to ever tackle the UFO mystery. He's the author of several seminal books,
Starting point is 00:03:34 deeply influential in the field. He's helped to sort of expand what we think of as the UFO world. This is ancient astronaut theorist Georgi Osuclos and Richard Dolan, historian and author of UFOs and the national security state. He's one of the first people that asked the question, is it possible that these ancient stories that we have, are they identical to what we see
Starting point is 00:04:01 with the modern-day UFO phenomenon? I honestly believe if you look at the whole history of just UFO researchers, you could really say that Jacques Valais is the most brilliant of them all. Here is Dr. Jacques Valet. Still people ask me, do you believe in UFOs? Well, you shouldn't wonder if you want to be a believer or a non-believer.
Starting point is 00:04:22 As a scientist, I mean, there are reports of UFOs. And I want to study it. I want to study those reports to see if there is a pattern and what that pattern would tell me about what is happening and how we could design a methodology to study it. This is pure science. As one of the first people to suggest that UFOs are not only a modern-day phenomenon, Jacques Valais is considered a pioneer by both euthologists and ancient astronaut theorists alike. For Valais, UFOs have been a lifelong passion, one that was sparked by his very own
Starting point is 00:05:01 close encounter. Pontoise, France, May 1955. On a bright afternoon in this small town 30 miles northwest of Paris, 15-year-old Jacques Valle comes running out of his house when he hears his mother calling out from the garden. I saw an object that to this day, you know, I have to say, was a... a UFO, it was a very clear disk. It was in the direction of the church of the city. This was not any airplane that you could imagine.
Starting point is 00:05:39 So the next day I spoke to a friend of mine from the college, and he had seen it too. His house was about half a mile up the hill from us, and he had looked at it with binoculars. And I asked him to draw it And what he drew was exactly the same thing I saw. What was interesting is that Jacques Valet has his friend draw what he sees. Very, you know, good investigative technique there.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So you could really see, even as a young man, he was approaching this as rationally and scientifically as you're able to do, and that's a path that he has always followed. The encounter had a profound effect on young Jacques Valet, who went on to study mathematics and astrophysics before being hired to work as an astronomer at the Paris Observatory in 1961. While there, he took advantage of the observatory's computer to advance his UFO research, comparing data from reports all over the world.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I started using the computer to find out about patterns among UFOs, and that's when I really became interested and felt that I could make a contribution. And after that, I was recruited by the University of Texas. They knew exactly what I had been doing with the computer. And they said, you know, that I could use the computer in Austin to work, to look for UFO patterns. So this was very exciting after that. In 1962, Valet moved to Austin, Texas to work with astronomers mapping the planet Mars. But his plans soon changed when he got an opportunity to meet.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Dr. J. Alan Heinek. Dr. Heinek was the chairman of the Astronomy Department at Northwestern University. But more importantly to Jacques Valle, he was also the scientific advisor for one of the first government task forces to investigate the UFO phenomenon, Project Blue Book. Begun in March of 1952,
Starting point is 00:07:46 the Classified U.S. Air Force Project studied UFO reports and sightings to determine whether they were a threat to national security. My wife and I flew from Austin to Chicago and met with Heineck, and I had brought some of my database records of close encounter cases in Europe, and especially in France. And the statistics I had done from the database on the computer from Austin.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And Dr. Heinek was very interested, because, of course, the Air Force was accumulating records under Project Blue Book. At the age of 24, Jacques Valais began working as an aide for Heineck on Project Blue Book and spent four years going through the 20,000 UFO cases on file. Dr. Heinek said as an astronomer, you're supposed to be curious. You're not there just to explain things to the public. You're there to look at the mysteries. And if there is a mystery, that's your job to document it, to try to do the work for it.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Troy. Nick Pope is a former member of the UK Ministry of Defense. Heineck became Valet's mentor, and clearly Heinek recognized something in Jacques Valet. He said, well, you know, he is a smart person, a scientist, fellow scientist, interested in, knowledgeable about, and passionate about UFOs, but wanting to apply exactly the sort of scientific methodology that Heinek was of course interested in. So the two men became colleagues and indeed friends. According to Jay Allen Heineck's son, Paul, Valé became his father's most trusted ally. There were a parade of graduate students and fellow professors at our house
Starting point is 00:09:41 all the time, and yet I could see the special fondness and reverence my father had for Jacques. Jacques became an invaluable friend and colleague of my father, somebody who my father deeply respected, who was unflinchingly honest about the phenomena and, I would say, courageous about pushing the boundaries of mainstream science out just a little bit further. The collaboration of two men of such impeccable scientific qualifications enrich the field beyond belief.
Starting point is 00:10:19 This was a defining moment in the history of uphology. Together, Jacques Foulet and Jay Allen Heineck not only helped to legitimize the study of UFOs, but they also became convinced that the objects being witnessed are not of man-made origin. And one case that made a bigger impression than all the rest involved an enormous craft,
Starting point is 00:10:42 a landing, and even an alien being. Northwestern University, 1964. While working towards PhDs in both industrial engineering and computer science, Jacques Follay encourages his mentor, Jay Allen Heineck, to consider investigating not only reports of objects in the sky, but also evidence on the ground. I kept talking to him about landings, which he called it close encounters,
Starting point is 00:11:19 and the term stuck, of course. I just called it landings, where there were traces on the ground and so on that could be looked at physically. And then he said, but you go through the Air Force files and you're going to see very, very few landings. And I said, well, let me go through the files and I'll show you some landings. The reason they didn't show up was that they were all explained as aberrations of hallucinations, or hallucinations, but you would find very credible witnesses and you would find traces. And the thing that clinched it was the case in Socorro, New Mexico, in Socorro, not only was their landing, there were beings.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Socorro, New Mexico, April 24, 1964, 545 p.m. While chasing a speeding car, police sergeant Lonnie Zamora hears a thunderous roar and sees a flame in the sky to the southwest. Thinking a local dynamite shack might have exploded, Zamora leaves the chase to investigate. Here's Lonnie. I sort of glance out of the window, slug to my lap. My sword is white, an egg-shaped looking object. Lonnie Zamora sees something. A landed craft, essentially egg-shaped,
Starting point is 00:12:51 he sees some figures. And he says afterwards they were either big children or small adults, which again raises the question, were these extraterrastrials, as many believe. Suddenly, when he got reasonably close, they got back in, and this thing took off. Zamora examined the area with fellow police sergeant, Sam Choum, Both officers documented that the brush was burning in several places and the object had left four perpendicular impressions on the ground. Dozens of other investigators arrived on the scene shortly after the incident and in the days that followed.
Starting point is 00:13:32 You had actually four levels of investigation. You had the Socorro Corps. You had the FBI happened to be there. You had the security detail from The airfield, you had special investigations with the Air Force sending Dr. Heineck, and that became part of Project Blue Book, as unidentified by all the investigators who had been there. Here's Dr. J. Allen Heineck via KSRC Radio, 1964. I believe that, I mean, Zemar, had a most interesting and significant experience. and I'm particularly interested in the tracks that were left and in the analysis of the samples of material from those tracks.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And until you know more about it, all I can say about it disappointingly to you perhaps is simply that I'm as puzzled as you are. Jacques told me that it was this case that was more or less the straw that broke the camel's back that made my father feel comfortable speaking about beings as opposed to just crafts in public. It was a difficult transition for Dr. Heilke
Starting point is 00:14:56 to admit that, yes, not only were landings important, but they were the greatest source of actual physical data that you could take to the land. For Jacques Valle, collecting data is the key to solving the UFO mystery. As part of his effort to create a global UFO database, UFO database, Velaide, with help from Dr. Heineck, began building an international network of scientists investigating the phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:15:25 They called themselves the Invisible College, taking the name from a group of 18th century European scholars. This was similar to what happened in the 18th century with the Invisible College. And they did a lot of early astronomy, early physics, chemistry. biology and so on. And the only reason they were not hung or killed as witches was because they were protected by the king. Dr. Heineck thought we were sort of the new iteration
Starting point is 00:15:59 of the Invisible College. People like Costa de Borogar in France, like Professor Chauvin in France, were internationally known in their fields, biology, relativity, and so on. But they were very interested in talking about UFOs with us. Of course, this was very secret. The Invisible College began in Dr. Hinek's home,
Starting point is 00:16:25 where weekly or monthly he would have scientists from all around the world visit his house, and there they would discuss the UFO topic. But they all were sworn to secrecy, because at the time, you couldn't talk about it in seriousness, especially in the world of academia. Although most members of the Invisible College remained anonymous, Jacques Valet did not, and in 1965 he published Anatomy of a Phenomenon,
Starting point is 00:16:57 one of the earliest books written about the UFO subject by a scientist. Anatomy of Phenomenon was a very, very strong compilation of these UFO reports at that time. He's looking at the data. organizing it and it really made his name in the UFO field. But as Valle was forging his reputation in the field of uphology, the U.S. government was looking for a way to end its UFO investigations.
Starting point is 00:17:28 In 1966, the so-called Condon committee, led by physicist Edward Condon, was commissioned by the US Air Force to assess whether to continue funding studies, like Project Blue Book. Their job supposedly was to make a determination scientifically. Is this real? Is this not real? What should the Air Force do?
Starting point is 00:17:49 Should the Air Force drop Project Blue Book? And the answer is nothing to it. It's not worthy of further scientific investigation. When the Condon study began, it became obvious that it was rigged to give a negative conclusion. I didn't want to stay in the U.S. under those conditions. I thought if that's what science is in America, we don't belong in America. After a disappointing end to his time at Project Blue Book, Jacques Valet moved back to Paris with his wife and son. But as backlash against UFO research spread in the public sphere of science and academics,
Starting point is 00:18:31 Jacques Valet would develop his most profound UFO theory yet, that aliens have always been among us. Paris, May 1968. 30-year-old Jacques Valet is working as an engineer for the Royal Dutch Shell Oil and Gas Company when civil unrest erupts throughout France. Triggered by a series of student protests against capitalism and consumerism, the unrest leads to a nationwide strike. Essentially there were three months during which no work was done.
Starting point is 00:19:12 So I could go back to my own research interests. full-time. I collected a number of books in areas that I had wanted to look at for a long time. And the question, which is really a scientific question, is so we have UFOs and UFO waves, when did that really start? Ville discovered that accounts of mysterious objects in the sky
Starting point is 00:19:40 weren't limited to contemporary reports. In fact, the more he dug into the origins of the UFO, phenomenon, the further back he went. There is a lot of literature from the Muslim world about gin and about other creatures created by God, along with men and animals. So I started looking at this, and what dawned on me was that you could go back in history, that people will interpret it in religious terms, as either evil or evil. or angels or religious apparitions.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Jacques Valet noticed some connections between modern-day UFO sightings and ancient folkloric tales of strange lights and even entity encounters. And he said, look, this could be the same phenomenon, but just people use different words according to their language, according to their belief, systems.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I looked especially in Europe, so many of those were fairy tales that I had heard as a kid. It turns out they come from real observations. A few folklore experts in the 19th century and early 20th century in Ireland and Wales and Scotland had gone around collecting actual reports of people encountering not just living. little people, but little people with strange contraptions. Strange houses where you would lose your sense of time, you would come out and years would have passed. And so you're beginning to see that these people were confronted
Starting point is 00:21:32 with another race, there was communication with it. Jacques Valet realized that many of the stories that we have in the middle ages of trolls and fairy folk and things like that, it reminded him of similar stories that we have today in the UFO world. So he asked the question, is it possible that these ancient stories that we have are they identical to what we see
Starting point is 00:22:02 with the modern day UFO phenomenon? In 1969, Jacques Valle published the culmination of this research in a book titled, Passport to Magonia, named for the fabled cloud realm detailed in medieval French folklore. In that book he describes that perhaps some of those old stories and legends of fairy folk are not necessarily made up, but that they may be descriptions of visiting extraterrestrials, that our ancestors then interpreted as fairy folk.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Passport to Magonia was a game changer to suggest that these things, whatever they are, interact with humans throughout human history on every continent in every culture. This is author and investigative mythologist William Henry. At this time, the primary thought about extraterrestrials was UFOs only started showing up in 1947 with the Kenneth Arnold sighting. But Ballet is starting to see that they've always been here, that they've shown up in culture after culture and saying that this phenomena has always been with us. With passport to Magonia, Jacques Filet became a seminal figure to not only euphologists, but also, ancient astronaut theorists. And his book came out within just a few months
Starting point is 00:23:21 of Swiss author Eric von Danikin's Chariots of the Gods, which also posed the possibility that extraterrestrials had visited Earth in the distant past. When you read the words of Jacques Belé, you can't help but be thinking of the work of Eric Van Daniken.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Chariots of the gods and passport to Magonia come to the same conclusion. This is an ancient phenomenon. Here's Eric von Danikin. I adore some of the writings of Jacques Valet. He's a brilliant man. And of course, out there in the universe there might be different forms of extraterrestrial, not only a human form. They might be small beings, bigger beings, giants.
Starting point is 00:24:04 We have no idea. Ancient astronaut theorists cite Magonia as one of the many instances when Jacques Valet found himself at the forefront of UFO research. pushing the boundaries of what many deemed possible. But as most groundbreaking theories were still to come. Theories that would challenge our understanding of not just UFOs, but the entire cosmos. Stanford University, 1972. Jacques-Fillet is recruited by the National Science Foundation
Starting point is 00:24:39 to work as a principal investigator on a project known as ARPANET. It was here where he helped build the first public, computer network ever developed, and is considered by many to be the forerunner of the Internet. ARPA was the Advanced Research Project Agency of the Pentagon. There were 15 computing centers at universities. At Stanford Research Institute, we had site number two, the second computer on the Internet. I ran one of the projects of many, and we implemented the first computer conferencing systems when the ARPANET was going to turn into the internet.
Starting point is 00:25:23 This is an incredible part of a Valet story. He goes to Silicon Valley and becomes amazingly successful in the early days of ARPANET. While working as a senior research engineer at Stanford, on his own time, Valle continued to compile reports on unidentified aerial phenomena. And the more information he gathered, the more he began to question the very nature of UFOs. What I found was that the uphologists were still talking about UFOs like they were advanced airplanes.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Well, that ignores pretty much everything that UFOs do. Whatever propulsion there is is certainly not anything that we account for in our equations. And you ask the witnesses, how fast did it go off and they say, it lifted and then, and then it disappeared. And the interpretation is they turned on, you know, the afterwards, and they go, boom, you know, and you don't see them anymore. That's not true. Valet came to believe, based on the evidence
Starting point is 00:26:32 that he saw in the literary tradition, as well as what he's seeing in the sightings and the documentation, that perhaps what we're actually dealing with is an interdimensional phenomena, and that extraterrestrials are, in fact, coming from other dimensions. Here's Chrissy Newton, journalist for The Debrief. Jacques Valet was one of the first scientists to ever bring in a multidimensional theory in context with the UFO topic. Jacques was ahead of his time and he's open-minded enough as a scientist to be able to go there and be very passionate about it. Jacques Valet changed his opinion from Nuts and Bolt's spacecraft to it being that we live in a multiverse and that multiverse.
Starting point is 00:27:16 multiple existences are happening all at the same time. And some of the UFO sightings might be these blips of these civilizations being able to move between dimensions. The idea that we are in a universe that has more than three or four dimensions with time, that's passe for physics. Going back to, you know, 50 years ago, I talked to scientists, to physicists, And they tell me that essentially space and time are human perceptions.
Starting point is 00:27:54 And that's where physics stands now. This doesn't come from the UFO people. It comes from hard physics. And I think part of my job, I'm not a good enough physicist to contribute to those ideas, but I can bring fuel to the to the disqual to the discussion. Jacques Valet shared his idea of interdimensional travelers with his former colleague and longtime friend, J. Allen Heineck.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And together, they published the theory in the 1975 book, The Edge of Reality. Here's theoretical physicist Michi Okaku. Mr. Vallek opened the door to a new kind of UFOology. Not just little green men with flying saucers landing on the White House lawn, but creatures from another dimension, creatures that can go through doorways and go between universes. Valle and Heinex controversial ideas captured the imagination of the public.
Starting point is 00:28:58 And not long after the book was released, they also caught the attention of Hollywood's most celebrated new filmmaker, Stephen Spielberg. I'm convinced that there's something going on, but no one really knows what it is. Dr. Heineck certainly doesn't know what it is. I have theories, he has theories. No one really can put their finger on it. If they could, the mystery would be solved. Jacques Valet's influence was so profound
Starting point is 00:29:25 that he came to the attention of director Stephen Spielberg. Valet is the model for the character of Claude Lecombe, the French scientist that we see in close encounters of the third kind. I heard of it through Dr. Heineck that one of the characters was based on me. And then there was a reporter in Hollywood. They invited Stephen Spielberg to lunch with us. And the three of us had a conversation about the movie.
Starting point is 00:29:58 And he confirmed that they wanted a scientist who would be from another culture, not American, but from another culture and would think about it in different ways. And Stephen Spielberg told me he had read my first books, and I told me of a phenomenon, was published in 65, which meant he was studying the subject way back. It was wonderful because usually in Hollywood, you know, the aliens come down and they start shooting.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And that's not what he wanted to do. He wanted to show the interaction, the human contact. Grossing over $300 million worldwide, close encounters became a blockbuster hit and sparked a greater public interest in both the UFO mystery and Jacques Ville. And in the decades to come, Ville would once again find himself at the center of a secret UFO investigation run by the U.S. government. Silicon Valley, California. As the end of the 20th century approaches, French scientist and astronomers, scientist and astronomer Jacques Valet turns his focus to funding emerging technologies, spearheading advancements in everything from wireless networks to biotech and nanotechnology.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Valle is also interested in bringing uphology into a new technological age, and in 1995, he gets his opportunity when he meets aerospace entrepreneur Robert Bigelow. This is Micah Hanks, author of The UFO Singularity. In the mid-1990s, billionaire Robert Bigelow enters the UFO scene, and he is funding a civilian scientific effort, the National Institute for Discovery Science, that's looking into the phenomena and other related phenomena. And he brings together some of the very best in the field,
Starting point is 00:31:58 and of course, naturally, this brings him to Jacques Valet. The research that Mr. Bigelow funded was absolutely remarkable. You know, in science, you have lots of... of good scientists with good ideas, but you need somebody who has a vision of where the enterprise is going to go. Mr. Bigelow is just a remarkable business leader. Bigelow created his own UFO organization,
Starting point is 00:32:24 devoted to figuring out the UFO mystery. He had this amazing group of people, and Jacques Phile was one of them. Those relationships became seminal to the development of the UFO topic in the decade since. Working with Bigelowel Valle created the most comprehensive UFO database in modern history. Called the Capella program, it uses artificial intelligence to investigate patterns behind the UFO phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Dr. Valle has amassed a database consisting of over 260,000 documents, all UAP related. I took him 60 years almost to amass this. Perhaps we can use the new tools of AI, for example, to crunch those 260,000 documents once again. And maybe AI will recognize some pattern. If you tell me about something you've seen in the sky, there are some possibilities that will come to me. Maybe it's an airplane, maybe it's a cloud,
Starting point is 00:33:28 maybe it's a reflection of the mood. And there are another 200 possibilities. My brain isn't capable of thinking of. AI can help. I'm a physicist, and step one of being a physicist is to collect the data. That's the first thing you do, and that's what Valet has done here.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Valet is the very first to apply computer science to the study of UFO sightings, and in every way is finding a way to apply modern technology to UFO phenomena. In December 2017, nearly a decade after Valle created the Capella database, a bombshell New York Times article revealed that Robert Bigelow was part of a secret military project known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, or ATIP. The program was conducted from 2007 to 2012, receiving $22 million in congressional funding.
Starting point is 00:34:31 This is turning the whole UFO world upside down, and people were kind of blown away because the U.S. government had always said, we don't, we have no interest in UFOs. This is not a thing. What we have learned subsequently is the ATTIP program clearly was using the Capella database, putting more money into it and working to build it. So Valet ended up having a tremendous impact on this secret UFO program that now we all know about. To many uphologists across the world, the unmasking of A-TIP and its use of Valais'
Starting point is 00:35:05 Capella database marked the beginning of a new era. It was the first time that the U.S. government openly acknowledged the UFO issue since the end of Project Blue Book more than 50 years earlier, for which Jacques Valet was also a key contributor. And this is an incredible part of Valet story that beginning in the 1950s he's starting to create databases of UFO sightings. 2017 comes this blockbuster report. He's almost like a passing through character,
Starting point is 00:35:37 but yet here he is, and what's he doing? Building a database. Database, database, database, database. It's all about the accumulation of these stories and the insights that are contained within. Most contemporary data we have, unfortunately, it's still classified. But we can already see a lot from what we've done with.
Starting point is 00:35:57 smaller databases that were public. I trust that the people are doing a good job of working with it, so we should have some better answers in time. As Uphology enters a new chapter in the 21st century, Jacques Follet remains as relevant as ever, and he is now lending his expertise to a groundbreaking effort to identify objects in space that might be harboring extraterrestrial technology. Cambridge, Massachusetts, July 2021.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Harvard astronomer and astrophysicist Avi Loeb launches a new scientific search for extraterrestrial intelligence called the Galileo Project. Avi Loeb of Harvard is a reputable scientist who made lots of waves by talking about investigating extraterrestrial civilizations technology. Professor Loeb says, why not monitor meteors and things in outer space?
Starting point is 00:36:59 Perhaps one of them is remnants of an advanced civilization. That's the Galileo Project. Among the many experts who are contributing to the Galileo Project is Jacques Filet. We know what equipment we can deploy about objects that are in the atmosphere. We want to know if they are coming in and out of the atmosphere and where do they go. Astronomists have been asking those questions for a long time with the Galileo Project. I'm very thankful that I was able to work with people who were just giving their time and their life to this.
Starting point is 00:37:37 It's just pure science. After nearly 70 years of investigating and documenting UFOs, from assisting Jay Allen Heineck on Project Blue Book to publishing groundbreaking books and creating the world's largest UFO database, Valle is hopeful that his work has brought humanity closer to solving an age-old mystery, one that dates back to the dawn of recorded history.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Jacques Valet's contributions to the UFO field are immeasurably valuable. He has been one of the people to change the paradigm, and it has taken him decades to do this. He's one of the first people that looked at the data and said, there's something going on here, and it certainly merits
Starting point is 00:38:27 more investigation? This is David Childress, author of Technology of the Gods. What makes Valet a unique figure in the whole UIFology scene is that he's a person whom
Starting point is 00:38:43 everyone, the skeptics and the believers, all take very seriously. Jacques Belet made an impact on the world in so many different ways. He's a talented science fiction writer. He's a talented novelist. He's a talented computer scientist. He was one of the earliest folks to apply computer technology to UFO world
Starting point is 00:39:02 to figure out how to organize data. Any conversation you have with Jacques Valle, any interview you do with him, he talks about the need for more data. There's never enough data. My father made a lot of people feel more comfortable accepting the idea that UFOs could be real. I think Jacques has taken people even further in getting them to question the very origin of the phenomenon. Jacques Valet is a hugely intelligent man. He's a true out-of-the-box thinker. When he started, a lot of the things that he was saying were very fringe.
Starting point is 00:39:41 They've now become mainstream. When the history of this subject is written, Jack Valet's name will be writ large, and rightly so. For more than six decades, Jacques Valet has made invaluable, contributions to help solve the UFO mystery and continues to even today. Will his lifetime of incredible research and scientific exploration soon lead to real answers about what has been happening in our skies for thousands of years? Only time will tell.
Starting point is 00:40:18 But one thing is certain, whenever we arrive at the truth, it will be largely due to the work of Jacques Valais. I still haven't solved it, but I felt that in my life, I would not be able to make a contribution at the right level to influence finding the answer. I've made a contribution alongside with a number of very, very bright people.
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