And That's Why We Drink - E14 The Old School House of Pies and Freud’s Field Day

Episode Date: May 7, 2017

“Meet us at the Monte V!” In this episode, Em tells Christine all about the haunted Hotel Monte Vista, which features a fun dude who hangs raw meat on the chandeliers and some ghosts that just wanna have a drink. Meanwhile, Christine brings down the mood with the disturbing story of Josef Fritzl and his underground prison. And that’s why we drink…

Hey. Are we on? Yeah. Hey. Hey. Oh, boy. And then I have this bad habit of just talking for 18- Literally ever. For 18 hours before we start recording, and then by the time we start recording, we're like, well, what else is there to say? We were supposed to meet at 6. Yeah. It's, what, 11.30? 11.30.

Happy episode 14. Just be lucky that you didn't have to hear everything before now. It was all really interesting. Really interesting. Some good, some bad. But all interesting. But mostly bad, but also interesting. So we're here for episode 14.

Yes, we are. Oh. Yeah. I have a fun thing I found on the internet. Okay. Jokes told by death row inmates right before execution. Oh, it's like you found exactly what I've ever wanted. Tell me.

I want to know them all. Oh, I'm so excited. Okay. George Apple, A-P-P-E-L. Mm-hmm. His quote was, well, gentlemen, you're about to see a baked apple. Before he was electrocuted. That's like the French fries guy.

Yes. I think he's actually on here. This guy named Carl Panzram. He's a brooding kind of man his he's kind of handsome he is in this day and age though he would need a beard to be considered handsome and he needs to get rid of that curly he needs something for the middle part of his head because that hair is gone wow um oh he was a serial killer rapist and burglar great Great. Sorry, I take it all back. The trifecta. He committed more than a thousand rapes. And I just called

him handsome. We both did, and I'm gay. I want to jump off a bridge. That sucks that that worked out for him. Okay, I hate myself. He was executed by hanging in Kansas on September 5th, 1930. His final quote was,

Yes, hurry it up, you hoot i'm sorry you hoot no hooligan yes hurry it up you hoosier bastard i could kill a dozen men while you're screwing around he doesn't look like the type he looks so brooding like you said he definitely has the intimidation factor oh oh, there's James French. James French. Oh, he is creepy looking. French fries. Look at him.

Okay. He goes, how's this for a headline? French fries. Yep. Bam. And then he got electrocuted, right? Bam. He was fried. Okay.

Oh, he was. Oh my God. He was sentenced to life in prison for murder. Then he was upgraded, quote unquote, to the electric chair after killing his cellmate. Oh, neat. That's nice. It's like life in jail wasn't enough. Does he not look crazy?

No, he looks crazy. So crazy. He looks like he's one of those people who doesn't blink. Yes. Okay. John Eldon Smith. He said, well, the Lord is going to get another one. The Lord or Satan?

The opposite of the Lord. The anti-Lord. Lucifer. Okay. Okay. Let's all do the sign of the cross. Stay out of my apartment. Okay.

Jimmy Glass said, yeah, I think i'd rather be fishing i think we all would if we were in your situation yeah you should have thought about that before you executed a couple during a burglary oh what would you say if you had last words you know like you said at one point uh during one of these episodes if you had like 10 years, you could come up with something good. Right. I feel like on the spot, it's a lot of pressure, but I feel like I'd probably say something. It would definitely be a pun. French fries is already taken.

Right. I don't know. I guess it does matter. If you have 10 years to think about it. Listen, give me a week. Next episode, I'll have my last words for you. All right. What are yours or do you my last words for you. All right. What are yours, or do you want to wait, too?

Sorry, Mom. Oh. I guess. Oh, that's sad. I mean, it's sad, but I'm also dying. It's not like any part of it's happy. I don't know. I wouldn't, if we needed something creative, it would take me a while, but I think my first

thought would just be, like, I'm sorry. I feel like I would spend my final years just coming up with something creative, it would take me a while. But I think my first thought would just be like, I'm sorry. I feel like I would spend my final years just coming up with something creative to be like, at least I'll go out with like a funny joke. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. We got Gary Burris.

His final words were beam me up, which was the Star Trek quote, like beam me up, Scotty. I feel like if my executioner's name was Scott, I would say beam me up, Scotty. You know? Then that would have to be, like, a quick, like, what's your name? Yeah, I'd have to know him. But also, aren't they hooded? So you don't know who they are? I don't think anymore. This is fucked up.

I think in the Middle Ages, maybe. Okay. Vincent Gutierrez, who also looks crazed as fuck. That guy is for sure a killer holy if I saw him on the street I would cross the street that photo is going to haunt my nightmares he doesn't have his pupils are so dilated oh my god he said where's my stunt double when you need one ah well that's creative that's creative but he's also crazy patrick brian knight said oh boy patrick's a little dramatic he said death has set me free oh lord that's the biggest joke i deserve this and the other joke

is that i'm not patrick brian knight and y'all can't stop this execution now what where where do we laugh What is he talking about? Jeffrey David Matthews, with a mullet, says, I think that the governor's phone is broke. He hadn't called yet. I don't... Well, usually your last chance, if you're on death row, is until you are time to be executed executed you still have a chance of the

governor pardoning you oh i think that the governor's phone is broke he hadn't called me yet oh dear yeah like you still have that's your last chance if the governor calls and there's only been like a few people but a lot of people wait on that hope that maybe he'll call i feel like if i was governor i would just pardon everyone because i don't want to be responsible for not saving people's lives unless you're a horrible fucking person you know what's really sad i just saw some i don't know if it was a new article or it was on twitter somewhere but a guy in arkansas um he was he was something like he was probably innocent and all it would have taken was like an $80 DNA test to prove that he wasn't. Makes me so mad. And they executed him anyway.

Even though there's a million fucking crooks out there who are still out, despite the fact that DNA like points them into jail and they're still out there. But then this guy was on death row for like 10 years, like 20 years, like something ridiculous. Or 24 years. And the whole time he was like,'m innocent please give me a dna test i'm innocent please give me a dna test and they wouldn't give him one and they fucking killed him i hope in his next life he's a fucking prince who gets i hope he's the warden of that jail and fucking kills every single person that didn't listen to him i that makes it's so frustrating yeah let's change the prison system oh right remember last time we were gonna create our own bible we have a lot of goals the only one we can scratch off is a podcast all right it's a start

next up our own bible and then we'll take over the prison system yes we will we'll we won't execute people but we will have them give us their final words yeah or we'll at least buy them an 80 fucking dna test okay all right that's a good that's a good idea okay i have facts yes please do milkshakes were a popular food for the extras dressed in ape costumes during the filming of the Planet of the Apes movie. Because their masks didn't allow them to eat a regular meal, so they could just put a straw in the mouth of a mask, and that's how they ate. Oh my god! Which sucks, though, because if you're on, like, not to be that person in the industry talking politics or technicalities. But to be that person.

But if you're on, like, a giant union show, and you have a union craft services bringing, like, delicious food, and you just get, like, fucking mediocre milkshakes all day, I would be pissed. Oh, yeah. Okay, the wine fact is the scent of a young wine is referred to as an aroma, whereas the scent of an old wine is called a bouquet. Oh, my. Or bouquet, depending on who the fuck you talk to. I'm going to tell you a secret. What? You've told this fact before.

No, I haven't. Yeah, because you said you went on a date and someone said bouquet. Well, you know what? Sometimes you need a fucking refresher. All right? I remember because I was in the hospital editing it, and i kept going back and hearing bouquet bouquet bouquet bouquet i bet that drove you fucking crazy i almost asked the nurse how she pronounced it and then i was like let's not do you want me to find another one real quick no no it's fine no it's too late now i feel insecure oh man okay here's my here's my wine fact um the so a normal wine bottle the bottom part that's indented

uh-huh it's called a punt oh and it's actually meant so um that it doesn't so the bottle won't topple over because if it was flat i that sound was me putting a wine bottle on the ground. But if it was flat and didn't have that indent, then it would be more top-heavy, apparently. But to put an indent in the center of it almost gives it a core or a center of gravity. Also, before the bottles were machine-made, they were mouth-blown, and so the punt was where the glass blower's tube was attached oh shit so that helped hand-blown bottles from toppling over but it also was like a historical thing can you imagine having to hand blow fucking every wine bottle no wonder wine was

in barrels back then they're like totally this anyway there's your fun fact. Interesting. I feel like every time I tell you fun facts, I end it with, anyway, there's your fun fact. And I go, interesting. Glad I learned something today. Are you drinking for any reason? Or what are you drinking? I'm eating your frat. I know. That's...

With the spoon. It's mine. I'm an only child, so what you did is not good. Mm-mm. But you also edit the podcast, so I have to be nice to you. So you keep me in a good light. I let it sit on the table for like 45 minutes, and then I was like, well, I'm going to have a bite. By the way, guys, I'm eating a frap.

Em's eating a frap, and so am I. And what are you drinking? Today I'm drinking a box of wine is it cab it is charades okay um ghosts ghosts ghosts yes tell me about ghosts i have a hotel story this time oh um i felt like the last couple ones i did before bobby mackie's was like items so i'm trying to balance it out again with places okay so i've got a hotel for you in flagstaff arizona i've been there all righty on a road trip well funny because this is located on route 66 that is exactly why i was there did you stay in

the hotel monte vista no i probably stayed at a 8, but... Very different types of people at either place. I'm sure it was close. So that's the place I'm talking about, the Hotel Monte V, which is something that they actually say. I don't think so, but... No, they do. It's a fact already written in my notes. Hotel Monte V, not only is it on the national registry of historic places but it's also been

refinished to look like it did originally in 1927 so this is a shorter story it's not as detailed but it's still worth mentioning and there's a specific ghost i think you'll get a kick out of oh boy okay so in 1924 three days before three years before it opened, they began building this hotel. And it's actually one of the only hotels in the country that's built entirely from public taxes, which the town got away with because they realized that the area didn't have a lot of tourism. And it's because they had no lodging for the tourists. And so they decided it was worth putting all of our taxes in because they'd make the money back if tourists stayed and spent their money there oh interesting uh it became a very like regular area to meet up whether you were a tourist or a local everyone went there because of like

of how useful it was to the town to a point where they came up with a catchphrase called meet me at the mon tv oh my god uh it became the town's catchphrase and not only was it used for tourists but locals who would go there the first thing that really like was booming in this hotel was that one of the rooms got rented out as business space and it was housed by the local daily three-hour radio show uh and it would the space was rented out in what is now room 105 fun thing about this radio show was it was the first radio show to be hosted by a woman hey and her name was fuck i didn't write her first name down but her last name was costigan um i think it was maria but starts with an m m costigan and she was the first woman in the country

um that was granted a broadcasting license good for her and look at us broadcasting and shit hey she started it. So the hotel opened during the Prohibition era. So not only was it known for its radio show, but the hotel's lounge also became a speakeasy rather quickly, which garnered a lot of money from tourists and locals alike because they wanted the drink, as I'm sure you have been able to sympathize with at some point. Oh, always. Two years later, it was found out and shut down, but reopened its bar as soon as the prohibition ended,

which I think was like two years later. Right. Between 1935 and 1940, the hotel also offered slot machines and some gambling tables, which were the only casino games in town. So they have the main radio show, which was also a big feminist thing because a woman was running it they have uh a speakeasy so there's the only alcohol in town and it's the only

it's minimal but they have casino games where you can't gamble anywhere else so they really did make their money back out of those tax dollars so i would have hung out there no problem i would have that would have been our place not house of pies i don't think house of pies realizes how much action they're getting in the podcast world so much action someone needs to go tell them and then sponsor us oh my god can you i would say nothing but nice things about house of pies i would i would have you re-edit these episodes where i said anything bad about house of Pies. I would just keel over and die. Okay. So basically this hotel is the House of Pies of, you know, the 1940s.

Brilliant. So during the 40s and the 50s, another huge tourist movement happened because that was during the time where Western movies became a really big thing in America. And they happened to be filmed out in Arizona, near places like Sedona and other areas near Flagstaff. So that meant that not only was it now like a film heavy area, like in LA of sorts, but it was also like if you're out there filming these Western movies and they needed somewhere to stay and trailers weren't a thing yet, this hotel housed the celebrities.

So this is where all the celebrities stayed when they were acting in those films that's interesting which meant that um the cast and crew was staying for sometimes months at a time and it housed celebrities like jane russell gary cooper spencer tracy john wayne bing crosby basically a lot of people that nobody knows anymore but we know that at one point they were famous Bing Crosby yeah we know Bing Crosby we know John Wayne I don't know a couple of the other ones which is kind of a slap in the face after being some of the first A-listers and then uh Harry Truman also stayed there oh uh fun fact in one of the rooms of the hotel a scene from Casablanca was also filmed. Wow.

And while there in the late 1950s, John Wayne was staying while he was filming a movie. And one of the first, he was also one of the first guests to report having seen a ghost. Oh boy. He reported that the ghost was in his room twice during his stay, but was friendly both times. Okay, good. So, maybe he was a fan. both times oh okay so maybe he was a fan in the 70s uh the first like real ghosts to show up there was three men who robbed a nearby bank and back then you could just rob a bank and then go across the street and no one would know what you did so they went to the hotel to go to their speakeasy lounge and like celebrate that they stole all this money good old days so anyway they went to

the lounge to have a drink to celebrate for what they did across the street and uh during their robbery one of the guys got shot in the arm or somewhere where it wasn't it didn't look like it was an immediate emergency oh nice except it was one and they didn't know so before he even finished his drink he fell over in the lounge and died okay um today staff and guests feel like this dead bandit is one of the many ghosts that haunt the building mainly the lounge and a lot of managers that work there and have to like open up early have reported hearing a man's voice say hello or good morning to them when they open the bar each day. No. At least he's saying hello.

The one thing about this, like, you know how I always want you to have lighthearted murder stories? Yes. This is a lighthearted ghost story because nothing seems to be super vindictive. There's a lot of ghosts packed into one place. Right. But they all seem to, like, get the get the hint of like let's be nice but like can you imagine if you were alone and something spoke to you well we'll get to that you know yeah like i'd rather see something in the distance out of

the corner of my eye than like have it be like right right hello hello especially when you're by yourself exactly uh so like can you imagine like i already don't want to fucking be awake at four or five in the morning to open this place up and now a ghost is going to talk to me thank you that's exactly my point uh others have told stories of feeling a ghostly presence in the lounge some say it's the gunman but other people say it might be other people who got shot on the land um when it was like more of a western cowboy culture um and also it was noteworthy enough for someone else to write it so i put it down but could also be people who died during drunken

brawls i don't know how many people are just dying in drunken brawl i feel like back then people just killed each other and it was not a big deal yeah they just michael mulloyed themselves or whatever it's like i'm drunk i don't like your face i'm gonna kill you here eat the sardine sandwich full of glass right well i feel like when you were like when you were a cowboy you know right uh you really could just like shoot anyone like no one was really stopping you oh people didn't give a shit it's just amazing now like you just like just bang and then just ride off on your horse into the sunset you know i had had a past lives reading one time. You did?

I did. And they told me I was a cowboy in 1846. I am not surprised. I feel like I could have been a cowboy. I totally see that. Yeah? I want to do one of those so badly. It was a past life regression is the first.

Yeah, I want to do a past life regression. It was from when we were driving out to L.A. Yeah. And my mom was like, let's do something fun in every place. And so, ooh, this is, maybe I was the gunman. Because here's the thing. Oh, boy. Okay.

Because we went, we got the past life regression in Sedona, where, like, you do all the spiritual tours and the vortex tours and all that stuff. Oh, my. And they were like, you used to live out here in 1846 and you were a cowboy. Did they say that to everybody? No. My mom got her past life regression done and it did not say she was a cowboy a cowboy did they say that to everybody no my mom got her past life regression done it did not say she was a cow what did they say about linda i don't remember some i don't know but i imagine she was like like a badass like like a mayor like something copper i'm there i can hear like a sheriff or a mayor like something that involves a lot of

leadership and like yeah being like like kicking ass like a bad bitch when she needed to be. I also see her being like a total criminal in a past life. Like just something savvy and like if she could get away with it, she might. She was the bank robber and you were like the cowboy. Aww. Maybe we robbed the bank together. That's adorbs. My mom is convinced that she was in Death um in death valley like back when when they were

migrating west yeah all right i don't know one of my um another past life i had apparently i was like uh i was a girl who had just fallen in love with i hadn't just fallen in love with them but like ended up marrying like a boy a boy at, like, 16. Back when it was, like, a time where you got married and had kids super young. Were you straight in this life? I guess so. Oh, you can change orientation, I guess. I guess spirits are fluid.

Interesting. Maybe, maybe always. But I don't, I don't believe that right away. Because I certainly am not. In my past life, I was pretty straight, apparently. Because what she remembers is I died during childbirth and it was not my first child oh so i must have had sex a couple times with a guy it was frightening that's a horrible thought oh wow that's a nightmare i'm sorry for you sorry to men in general for that comment but whatever your penises are really scary no but my i know like this is so i like know

i know no no that the it was i don't know how past lives work but i know that like it was either the best time of my life or the first life where i met like the love of my life that like I'm supposed to find in every life or it was the most meaningful like that like really formed my like soul's character or maybe I had the most lives in this time I don't know how it works but I know stronger than anything in my life that the colonial period is like my time I don't know if I just died a lot and kept being alive in that time or like if like i don't know if i just died a lot and kept being alive in that time or like if like i don't know what happened i don't know what monumental thing happened but it's always stayed with me yeah maybe something formative happened that like

anytime i go to like a colonial tour like i mean i grew up in virginia so like if i ever went to williamsburg and there's a big part of williamsburg that still looks exactly like it did in the colonial period and all the employees still dress the same like there's it big part of Williamsburg that still looks exactly like it did in the colonial period. And all the employees still dress the same. Like, there's, it's just, like, this weird draw. Like, if I could, like, just live in that little town, like, never leave and just, like, live in colonial times, I would totally rock it. That's amazing. That's me with Egypt. I'm a trillion percent convinced that, like, when I see things, when I go to, like, exhibits, like museum exhibits, I'm like, oh, yeah, I get it.

Like, this is my thing. That's like colonial times with me. Right. And I feel like it's just, like, this weird hunch where, like, they could show, like, a random old time, like, object. And I don't even need the explanation. I'm like, oh, yeah, well, that happened with this, and that's like butter with that like oh yeah like i remember so i used to work in yorktown um virginia that was like where i had most of my jobs in college right and if you took this little trolley it took you like to different colonial exhibits and it was

like it rocked my fucking world like i would go back every single day and never get bored and like they had like these houses that were still entirely built like these like whole exhibits where you could basically it wasn't like you just walked past and could look in like they were interactive where you could go in the log cabin and you could see what the bed looked like and what was in the attic and what like how they cooked and like there was a table that was set and then when you would leave the house there was like these um they had every outdoor station where if you like what they had to do every day like how they got their water how they made their butter how they like made fire um how to plant and it was all interactive you had to do all of them to learn and then they took you to like the blacksmith shop and then like the wood shop and like it literally literally i could live there if someone trapped me in that

little section in yorktown virginia i would be so happy and never try to escape it's not fascinating because like i would rather kill myself literally i have no interest in egypt and if someone said let's go i would be like. But like my whole thing is like, I want to live in like the desert sand. And like when I see all those things about like, oh, this is their rituals. I'm like, yes, yes, it makes sense. I get it. I don't care. I literally don't care.

Also, I have like no interest in anything outside of America except for Canada. I don't know. I've been telling my mother since I was, like, three years old. I was like, I'm going to Canada. Like, I just said it so confidently. I was like, I'm going. Like, I'm going to be there, and that's just where I'm going to end up. And, like, who knew Trump would become president?

Bye. See ya. But, like, I've always told her, and when I was 12, I had this, like, weird obsession with Nova Scotia. What? I've literally never stepped foot in Canada, by the way. And I've just always been, like, I'm going to go here and here. And since, like, middle school, I've known the whole process to become a citizen there.

Like, I'm just, like, obsessed with Canada. Like, I just want to. I did not know that about you. I just want to. Like, if there's, like, a colonial neighborhood in Canada, I just want to fucking go there and never come back. We have Canadian listeners. Find the colonial areas where the pilgrims were in Canada. Oh, Lord.

If ever a pilgrim were to set foot in Canada, I want to go there. I want to go right there. And I never want to leave. Bye. See you. We'll just long distance this podcast. Okay. I'll be in Egypt and i'll be in egypt and

you'll be in canada i will literally never visit you in egypt like no offense to egypt i just have no literally never visit you in canada so fine good um okay let's get back to the ghost story okay bye also should i get my burger yes okay Yes. Okay. All right, so I got my burger, guys. Em got her burger. I ate the whole thing. Okay, so another thing, let's just dive right back into this because we've been tangent after tangent. Totally.

Some of the other reports in this hotel have been spirits who make noise, move furniture, make sudden appearances, ring the lobby telephone, and knock things down. They ring the lobby telephones like teenage pranksters. Yeah, like, is Tamara home? Oh, no. Oh, there was a ghost in here that reminds me of Tamara, and I'm already fucking over it. Nope. So there's also reports of hearing band music coming from the second floor when nobody's up there, which is something've experienced in other haunted hotels and it's fucking creepy oh um the staff is so used to it that it's laughable to them now like at this point they're just like oh yeah oh the jazz musicians are so room 210 is called the zane gray room i'm not sure why i think zane gray might have been like an like a

celebrity at the time who stayed there because Because they have a couple of rooms named after the celebrities who used to stay in those rooms. Okay. I don't know who Zane Grey is, but there's a room named after him and it's 210. Many guests have been woken up by the Tamra Ghost. What? Who, it's a bellboy in old fashioned like red clothes with brass buttons on it. And he knocks on the door. No. in like red clothes with brass buttons on it and he knocks on the door and no he knocks on the door

and tells them on the outside of the room that room service has arrived oh god and so some people will like say i didn't order anything like this is like middle of the night so some people will shout back and be like i didn't order anything and classic tamra this, the bellboy ghost will be like, are you sure? Nope. Or people have gone up to the door to like open the door and see who's talking to them or will like look out the people. Yes. And no one's there. But the hall that this door is on is way too long and narrow with no doors for anyone to have like just fled.

Nope. So like it's like there's no way there would have been anyone there. So do they see them? No. how do they know it has brass buttons because there was one time where 210 and the room across the across the hall both heard a knock yeah but room 10 where you where the bellboy was talking to and saying like you have room service yeah the guy that was in the other room across the hall um didn't hear a guy but looked at the people and saw a bellboy in red clothing knocking on the door and so he went to open the door to be like who is that like the uh the guy whose door was being knocked on opened the door and didn't see anything and the guy across the

hall who was looking through the people and saw the bellboy opened the door and was like, there was a guy in a red bellboy suit right there. Oh my god, that's so creepy. Yeah. I have chills too. I was about to, I don't know why, but I have chills from that. Okay, so there's also a woman who wanders the halls outside of the same room. But again, it's such a narrow hallway that she couldn't just leave.

Fabulous. Um, supposedly the hotel avoids putting guests with pets in this room because dogs go crazy and they like tear up the room out of fear. Great. Like just tear to crap. That's so sad. So room 20 is equally as haunted as 210 apparently. Um, in the early 1980s, as a long oh this is the guy that

you'll get a kick out of oh good in the early 18 in the early 1980s there was a long-term guest who stayed in room 220 and he had this weird habit and no one can i don't have an explanation before you ask why but he was known uh to hang raw meat from the chandelier no i don't know why but he was there for several several months cocaine drugs and for some reason they like anytime the cleaning staff went in there there was just raw meat hanging from all the chandeliers that's drugs that's drugs what no there was also uh any so anytime in 220 a maintenance worker has gone in there or he also the guy died in there i don't know how are you kidding me so they walked in and also get this after after um he died in there they couldn't they didn't know that he had died for a while because they thought like the smell of death coming out of

there was the raw meat they're like oh don't mind that it's that's just the raw meat guy it's just the stakes he hung from the ceiling yeah and so uh now when people uh go into 220 like a maintenance worker went in there um to turn off the lights and or he turned off the lights behind him when he was leaving and when he went back to get something, the lights were on, the bed was messed up, and the TV was blasting at full volume. Fabulous. There's a room called the Gary Cooper room where two sex workers were murdered by being thrown out of the window. And in this room, many guests will feel like they're being stared at while they sleep. And more times than not, the male guests will feel like something is sitting on top of them

and trying to suffocate them while they're sleeping, and they have a hard time breathing. As if, like, something's trying to retaliate. That's so sad. Um, let me see. In another situation, or in another report, two women have regularly been sighted in the pool hall and the lounge but disappear when you turn around to, like, double take. In room 305, many see a woman rocking in the rocking chair in the room and humming. I don't like that.

I don't like it either because she only does it in the middle of the night when you're sleeping. Why? Some other people, including cleaning staff, have tried to move the chair thinking maybe there's a draft or there was like a, like the floor was slanted. And by the time you wake up or like you close your eyes and just open them again, it's moved to the same spot it was in. Some people will also just see the chair rocking on its own without a person in it. And sometimes that comes with the humming. So you'll see, you'll hear humming in it. You'll hear humming

with an empty chair listen if i went to a hotel room and there was even a rocking chair in it i would be like please remove this from my room yeah if i was ever staying like at a in an old farmhouse or something if i saw a rocking chair i'd be like either we're getting a brand new one that has no history except being sent here yep or we're just not gonna have a rocking chair not another rocking chair uh people have been greeted by the same voice saying good morning but in their rooms oh god and have seen in the lounge reports of bar stools and drinks that move on their own so they either slide down the bar or they'll switch places or you'll like put your drink down and look away and grab it again it It's a different drink. Oh my God.

Like a really cool bartender magician. And people have also said that they see a little boy wandering the halls. And some of them, especially mothers, feel like their hand is being held in the elevators. Also kids will see him in the elevator and in the lobby. Oh. TVs and phones in the rooms will go off on their own. In room 220, where the meat guy was, people will feel cold male hands, like, touch their back while they're sleeping. Nope.

And he was a male guy, so his male hands probably got involved. Absolutely not. With that. He was a male guy. He was a male guy. He was a male guy. And with his male hands. Okay. In the basement where the laundry machines are, cleaning staff will hear a baby crying,

which turns into a deep man's laughter. Oh, God. That's pretty horrifying. I'd be like, and my duties do not include laundry. And I am quitting. Many have reported an old-fashioned dressed couple dancing in the lounge. And there's a shadow person that will stand behind the employees when they aren't looking and can be found in the basement as well. Okay.

But he's basically seen behind the bar, behind employees when they're not looking, and witnesses say that he has a very menacing presence that is telling you to get away from him. So other people will see him behind the employees? Behind someone, yeah. And I guess they say mainly employees because it's the bar and that's where the employees are. Right, right. But someone will see a dark shadow figure behind someone and feel really intimidated and fearful and scared of them. Yeah, I don't like that. And then when the other person turns around, it's not behind them.

Good, good. like that and then when the other person turns around it's not behind them good good um many staff members and guests have met a very polite elevator attendant even though the elevator is now self-service fabulous um he'll show up in the mirror of the elevator so you turn around he's gone or you can see a phantom hand move across the elevator as if he's closing the elevator gate that used to be there oh my god and some have even interacted with a full apparition of the elevator attendant uh so far as to some people even saying he asked them what floor may i take you to oh my god which by the way if i were to like meet a ghost like that's the one that is the one ghost all he wants to do is help you he's like what floor can i take

you to and i'm like 69 oh you're the worst that would make him go back like he'd be like i'm going back to where i came from my work here is done what if he got up there and was like i've been waiting for that answer this whole time and he just dissipates into a bright light and he wouldn't that wouldn't happen uh new light bulbs will unscrew themselves in front of you or you will leave the room and after having screwed them in they'll be completely removed and sitting perfectly upright on a table oh oh okay for cleaning staff to find which makes me think that's a fucking poltergeist well that's like absolutely furniture being stacked up or upside down or cabinets being

open perfectly organized yeah shit yeah and like i'm at it's hard to balance a light bulb up or upside down or cabinets being open. Perfectly organized shit. Yeah. And like, it's hard to balance a light bulb. Yeah. It's literally balanced up around the table. Also, you can smell a distinct meat and sausage like smell. That's disgusting. And as the, if you try to follow the smell, it will lead to 220. That's disgusting.

A door in the hall opened on its own and a dark shadow figure literally glided down the hall. Okay. And this guy saw it and tried to record it on his phone. And when you look back at it, you can't see the shadow on the phone, but you can hear, as if something was shouting into the microphone, you can hear a man screaming, help. Em? Why?

There's a full shadow figure that glided out but you can't see him all you hear is like a man screaming like straight into the phone i don't know anyway that's it jeez that's it okay like there was really minimal history it was just all like different accounts of different things since 1927 that's horrifying So that was called the Monte Vista, Hotel Monte Vista. Meet me at the Monte V. Meet me at the Monte V, man. It's catchy. Yeah. That's like when we talk about house of pies and we say meet me at HOP. Totally. It's the same thing. It's exactly what we're talking about. Modern day house of Pies. Yep. All right. Well, modern day Monty V.

Yeah, the other way around. Old school House of Pies. House of Pies, old school. Anyway, there is your ghost story. That is creepy. I don't like the part about the meat guy and the shadow figure. I really don't like the shadow figure guy. I do like the elevator guy.

He seemed chill as fuck. Yeah. He seems like someone I could get down with, but everybody else, uh-uh. Right. Correct. Except the couple dancing. I'm like, okay, you can hang out. Yeah.

Or the little boy holding hands. That's really sweet. Yes. And also sad, but sweet. Mm-hmm. All right. Well, I'm going to tell you about this guy named Joseph. Joseph.

God, I pick all these Austrian German people. You do this on purpose, I think. But I think also they're all kind of fucked up. So maybe that's why. Okay. Okay. So I'm going to tell you about Joseph Fritzl. Have you heard of him?

No. Is he about to rock my world in the worst kind of way? In the worst, worst kind of way. Christine has been giving me like all of these like warning signs that i'm about to be ruined after i hear this so it's one of those things where like i read about it and it ruined me so i need to force it upon other people i'm like if i have to suffer you have to suffer perfect all right joseph fritzl so this dude from Austria. So he grew up in poverty. His father constantly cheated on his mother and threw his father out of the house when he was only four years old.

So she started raising him on her own. But unfortunately, she did not like him. She only gave birth to him to prove to her husband that she wasn't infertile. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. Oh. So that's nice. Yikes.

As a teenager, Joseph considered his mother his wife. How did that happen? And he had many sexual fantasies about her. What? happened and he had many sexual fantasies about her what so this girl is like total neglect and abuse and so you end up sexualizing her interesting yeah freud's field day is what this episode will be called all you psychologists get on it okay um so he met a woman in 1956 named Rosemary and married her. Um, Rosemary gave birth to their first child in 1957. Uh, and at the time Fritzl would ride around town on his bike, peering into people's windows, but he claimed that he was working late at the steel factory.

Just a fun fact before we get into the story. Right. Let's just wean me into something disturbing. Yeah, just one thing at a time. So their fourth daughter, Elizabeth, was born on April 6, 1966. She was the fourth daughter of their seven children. She was painfully shy, was often beaten by her father, and her mother, Rosemary, claimed she did not like her. Mm-hmm.

father and her mother rosemary claimed she did not like her on october 6th uh joseph was arrested for raping a woman in her apartment at knife point in linz austria he served 12 months and then he served 12 months of an 18 month sentence he had also attacked several other local women but rosemary forgave him when he was released from prison. By 1973, he had established himself as a successful businessman in the area. He bought a home in the Lakes District of Upper Austria

and imprisoned his elderly mother in the attic until she died in 1980. When his daughter Elizabeth was 11, her father began sexually abusing her. Aww. When she was around 15, which was about 1981, Fritzl began building a cellar beneath their family home, planning to transform it into a homemade prison. Hmm.

A homemade prison for his daughter? Yes. Okay. He had... Sorry. Oh, no, you're fine. I didn't know if you could, like, hear. No, no, I just made sure you were okay.

He had very specific plans, including that the ceiling could only be 1.7 meters or 5.5 feet high. His brother-in-law helped him carry out the building, but he didn't know what Fritzl's plans were. So when Elizabeth was 18, her father lured her downstairs into his new prison that he had built by asking her to help carry the door that would end up sealing the dungeon. Aww. That would lock her in. He drugged her with ether and chained her to a wall. Fuck. He unlocked her only to ether and chained her to a wall. Fuck. He unlocked her only to rape her.

God damn it. He wrote fake letters to people claiming that Elizabeth had joined a cult, which was actually part of the zeitgeist at the time. So, like, cults were this part of, like, the mass media. There was Jonestown and all that. And people were, like like in mass hysteria about the same way like satanism was sort of a mass hysteria it was the same way with cults um so people thought the story was plausible and he kind of got away with it by saying oh she joined this call i don't know what to do um fritzl told elizabeth his daughter that if she touched the

cellar door she'd be electrocuted was it ever even charged i don't know that could have just been like a manipulative i mean it was locked right but it was one of his ways of keeping her away from it basically um the cell was four and a half meters squared which is about 15 by 15 feet um Her father visited the dungeon every few days using a remote control, which would open the door. He would provide her supplies and rape her regularly. She was raped over 3,000 times and violently assaulted. Oh, my God.

I'm not going to get into the details, but it was not good while she was down there. At the same time time like while this was happening he was also suspected of the unsolved murder of martina posh who was a 17 year old girl in town who had been found wrapped in plastic and raped near his house um in 1986 but he was never convicted of it uh so during her time in the dungeon elizabeth gave birth to seven children and was raising them during this time? So, like, they were also witnessing her getting raped whenever he came down.

Oh, yeah. So, was he raping them? Three, no. Okay. So, three of the children, Kirsten, the eldest, Stefan, and Felix, all grew up downstairs in the dungeon. Uh, on April 28th, elizabeth gave birth to twin boys michael and alexander michael died three days later and fritzl cremated his body in the furnace and scattered his ashes throughout the garden three of her children lisa monica and alexander

lived seemingly normal lives upstairs why like was there a reason he picked them? Nope. He was like, oh, you'll do. Yep. Was it like an Aryan race kind of thing? I don't think so. I think he just was so crazy. Oh, okay. Like, maybe he just skipped a generation. Like, oh, this kid gets to go, like, upstairs, downstairs, upstairs, downstairs.

Maybe. Fucked up. There was no explanation. He told everyone that Elizabeth was unable to care for her children because she was in a cult and that she had dropped them off at his doorstep in the middle of the night so he had to raise them um because the family was growing downstairs fredzel started to expand the dungeon he built additional rooms um but the air was extremely stale uh the children would get they were really sick yeah they had like well

they never experienced sunlight had they never malnutrition vitamin d deficiency they could barely move they were listless um the way they described it was that condensation was just dripping from the walls so there was mold so they all had fungal infections um there were two bedrooms uh which were soundproofed a a bathroom, toilet, and kitchen, and there's photos of it and it's upsetting. Uh, so the, obviously the, the lack of natural light left the children weak, sickly and pale. Um, the mold that I mentioned, uh, they also had bad dental problems. The children's only access to the outside world was what they could

see on this like old tv they had down there and what their mother told them about the outside world before she had been trapped downstairs at age 18 which reminds me of that movie room right and the book i guess this is like a really fucked up blast from the past did you ever see that movie with brennan fraser no that's a good one it's a it's not this oh i was like god no but he's basically like his parents are afraid of him ever leaving so they like keep him in the house and they just tell him stories about what oh i remember that but it's like it's like an 80s like family movie like this is the that's what i'm saying this is the fucked up version of that did you see room no oh she like has her son and like raises him in this room.

I've heard. I've never seen it. I've heard about it, though. And she like explains the outside world and he doesn't understand what the outside world is because like he's only lived. It's so upsetting. Yeah, this is like exactly what this was. So Rosemary, the mother, her mother, Elizabeth's mother. Right.

Was unaware, apparently. Of all these grandkids? Of the secret family that was downstairs. She, like, literally never went outside and saw a dungeon. Well, it was, like, down this secret cellar. Alright. Soundproofed. I don't know.

I'm gonna roll with it, because last episode I just could not get behind this fucking foot. But I'm gonna... I'm gonna... I mean, I don't know. Just take your word for it. Listen, I don't... I don't know. All she said was she didn't know, and I don't know just take your word for it listen I don't I don't know all she said

was she didn't know and I don't know if anyone believes her or not but clearly she already said she didn't like her own children and yeah that's fair her husband had raped several people and she knew about it so it's like why are you married this is like my when I'm like why are you still in that fucking house yeah it's like why would you stay married to this guy well part of it ended up being like she was also a victim in that like her husband was like Stockholm syndrome or something. No, but just that like her, she was in an extremely abusive relationship herself. Oh, well, that's good enough reason.

Vilely murdering. That wasn't sarcasm. That's a great enough reason. And raping young women. So I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. I'll explain their relationship later.

But anyway. Yay. Okay. So apparently Rosemary was unaware of the Seeker family her husband hid beneath her feet. Kirsten, the oldest daughter, was 19, had never left the basement. 19 years old. She was desperately ill. She kept lapsing into unconsciousness and suffered from uncontrollable screaming fits.

On April 19, 2008, she was taken to the hospital by ambulance. Fritzl made his daughter Elizabeth write a letter to the hospital begging them to take care of her daughter. The hospital became suspicious when

Kirsten arrived but had no medical records, no documentation, and she had multiple organ failure and was induced into a coma because she was so sick. The doctors actually made an appeal over Austrian TV asking Elizabeth to contact them and contact authorities because they needed more information. Elizabeth watched the story unfold on tv on her little tv couldn't leave the house begged her father to let her go to the hospital to save her daughter uh on april 26th of 2008 fritzl decided to release his family from underground um so elizabeth ste Stefan, and Felix made their way upstairs Stefan and Felix for the first time in their lives got to leave

she's at the hospital I know if they all went together so they brought Kirsten to the hospital and she had no documentation so they made an appeal to Elizabeth not knowing she was underground and so her father let them leave to go to the hospital Oh, I get it. Made an appeal to Elizabeth, not knowing she was underground. And so her father let them leave to go to the hospital.

I feel like if I was a criminal, though, I'd be like, the perfect reason to not let them go is because of this documentation. It's like, I'm screwed no matter what if they have no papers. But I don't think he's thinking like, oh, I'm a criminal. Right. His brain doesn't work like, oh, I'm doing something bad. He's like, this is perfectly normal. So finally, they all made their way upstairs for the first time ever. Fritzl told Rosemary, his wife, that their daughter had finally returned home from her cult.

And that she had been, okay, at this point she had been missing for 8,516 days, which is 24 years. Fuck that. She had been in the basement our lifetimes. Literally our lifetime. Mm-hmm. 24 years. I had birthed seven children. Jesus.

So, Joseph and Elizabeth got to the hospital. He took her to the hospital to see kirsten and they were detained on the hospital grounds um elizabeth refused to speak about her circumstances until she was promised she would never have to see her father again uh so they made the promise and fritzl was arrested that night 300 officers worked on the case and the trial began in march Okay. Which is like you built an underground cellar and locked your daughter away for 24 years. And your grandchildren and your other children. And told them they'd be electrocuted if they tried to leave.

But it's not enslavement. But he admitted to incest and rape. Yeah, like, why would you admit to obviously one but not just as obviously the other? Exactly. It doesn't make any sense. Elizabeth testified to the whole thing via an 11 hour pre-recorded video. Good for her though. I know.

Presented to the court. Uh, Joseph Fritzl sat in the courtroom. He listened to the whole testimony. Uh, Elizabeth actually dressed in a wig to watch the proceedings. Um, her father saw her and began to weep. Oh my God. Cry me a fucking river literally after he watched her 11 hour testimony he changed his plea to guilty on all charges well finally something moved him wow good for you guy um the case was especially difficult for jurors uh they had extra jurors kept on standby in case any of the jurors had to like

step away and weren't able to continue so fritzl must serve 15 years before he is eligible for parole in 2024 okay that's nice 15 years yeah your kids were only down there for fucking 20 he raped his daughter for 24 years and kept her imprisoned. I feel like if you're gonna enslave and rape someone for 25 years, maybe you should at least be in jail for 25 years. Amen. Maybe at least. A fucking men. At least in jail you get books and computers and food yeah fuck you so anyway he's eligible for parole in 2024 he'll be 89 years old um elizabeth and her children spent many months in a secure psychiatric ward while they tried to recover she attempted to re-establish a relationship with her mother but her anger would boil over every time she questioned her as to why she never tried to yeah i wouldn't even try to have a conversation help i'd be like i wouldn't

even know what to say i'd be like fuck you i mean how do you even go back to that uh she ended up throwing her mother out of their villa on the psychiatric hospital grounds um the captives took on new names uh they were moved to secure location, security personnel and CCTV guard her home and local villagers will call the police. If they see sightseers like lurking or trying to get a glimpse of them, which is kind of great. So like their neighbors will look out for them. Um,

the upstairs and downstairs families. So she had the children upstairs and then her children downstairs, uh, were reunited. They've all undergone psychological therapy as they should i'm sure they needed um and schooling because they'd never been to school i mean oh my gosh the oldest daughter was 19 and never right left the basement um they were lucky that they could speak yeah uh she says one of them had like disability some sort of disability because he maybe because he was like malnourished and there was i guarantee you he wasn't given

prenatal vitamins right well you know the least of his worries the least uh yeah he had like motor functioning skills or uh issues with motor skills um she now says that she understands that her mother was also a victim, and they have mended their relationship. Her mother lives in a small flat in Linz in Austria, selling homemade bags to supplement her pension, and she visits her family every week. After their release, Elizabeth showered several times a day. She became compulsive about cleaning i don't blame her yeah the children uh would become like extremely distressed about closed doors i don't blame them either either had to keep all the doors open or remove them from their hinges um they have a full-time caretaker who takes care of them and like a lot of times panic will

like overwhelm them and so the caretakers are, like, to help them. Like, coax them. In those. To, like, relaxing and. Yeah, those kind of things. And take care of them if they're, like, catatonic. Elizabeth has worked toward getting her driver's license and enjoys shopping. Her father wrote her a series of letters requesting money.

Are you fucking kidding me? So he could study law to defend himself in court. Oh my god. Oh wow wow. That's just the most infuriating thing I've ever heard. She no longer accepts his communications. Did she write a note back being like, fuck you? No, she just refused to.

She cut him off. He has to be. I mean. He He has to be. I mean. He also has severe dementia. He divorced Rosemary in 2012 because she never visited him in prison. This guy's the most manipulative fucking bastard in the entire world. So that's that. That's it?

That's it. So now they live in Austria. Is he dead? Is he dead in fucking prison? Nope. He gets out on parole in 2024. So now they live in Austria. Is he dead? Is he dead in fucking prison? He gets out on parole in 2024. So in like fucking seven years. Yep. Christine, your toothy grin.

It's really great. That's the worst. Yeah. That's the worst. Yeah. Ugh. So that's fun. That's...

I mean, it's not the same, but it's the him asking for money. From the person he did that to to be a lawyer to defend himself is very much like those people who can like like when rapists can sue their victims. Totally for like paternity if they got the girl pregnant. Totally. It's like, why won't you let me see my kid? It's like you fucking raped me those svu episodes like it's the um they can sue the their victim if she tries to get an abortion it may yes it's like it's like oh i'm sorry i'm supposed to carry this fucking thing and then there's actually legal precedents that allow them to make that no that the law, the law in certain places, they have

the total right to. Ugh! It's 2017! How the fuck is any of that okay? No, it's not. I, this is why we drink. This is the exact reason

why we made this podcast. Yep. Slash why we drink drink we need everyone else to understand how miserable the world is every person who thinks either of those situations is okay needs to fucking go away forever and by go away we mean die a violent death yes uh okay let's read geo's horoscope thank god it better be good because if I find out Gio's going to have a bad week I'm like no one wins. Here we go. Scorpio horoscope. Ready? Gio? Listen up. Listen Gio.

Elegance personified. Gio! You are loaded with compliments today. You're so handsome. Em literally called him handsome 85 times in a row. He is the cutest. We in the whole wide world.

That's you. This may encourage you to do better work and have good equations with people. You're so mathematical. However, make sure your success does not go to your head and affect your work. Be humble. Watch your words while communicating. Listen. That's real because this success is going to go to his fucking head.

That's true. He doesn't even know the fame he has. He needs to get it together. Gio! Was that it? That was the whole horoscope?

Watch your words. Watch your words. Loose lips sink ships. That's right, Gio. Talk shit, get hit, except,

but hit with kisses because you're so cute. See, compliments. Loaded with compliments. I think what the horoscope with kisses because you're so cute. See, compliments loaded with compliments. I think what the horoscope is saying is you finally met Em, and your life will never be the same because all you'll get is love. And don't let Em's compliments go to your head. But they're all accurate.

He is so handsome. He's such a good boy. He's such a good pup. He's such a good boy. Oh, hi, baby boy. He's such a good boy. He's such a good pup. He's such a good boy. Oh, hi, baby boy. He's so handsome. Today I made a Snapchat of me showing up at Christine's and Gio seeing me for the first time. And he lost his mind.

And as did I. I'm so happy. He was yanking on the leash to get to me. And Christine's little body was like flinging in the wind. I was like flying behind him like a kite oh but then we reunited he was a happy bear anyway i like this new ending where we can be like hey that was funny yeah finally we have something we yeah we him and i hugged today and we had a whole snuggle. He just sat there and just accepted all of my ridiculous behavior. He has yet to vomit from the fries,

but it will happen. I gave him a whole bucket of fries. My boyfriend comes home at 4am and I guarantee you he's going to come home and do a pile of vomit on the floor. After a 10 hour shift in the emergency room. Oh, what a good life he's chosen for himself. He loves our podcast. He is actually creepily supportive about like for no reason like i wouldn't blame christine does not deserve him no if he left me i'd be like

yeah i get it and then when you told me be like well yeah that was expected like well yeah we were waiting for that well none of us thought that would last we all knew he'd get up and leave help okay he probably only stays for geo let's be honest as do i i was gonna say that seems to be a running theme in my life and my relationship i think you just got a dog so people wouldn't leave you you're not wrong about that in fact you're as the wine gets closer to her you're very right about that all right well thank you guys for listening uh geo's here to say bye um we had we just finished our last listeners episode uh we have a new one coming out june 1st now yay and uh personal shout out uh when this comes out i will be a week away from going back home for the first time since Christmas. So I will be in my hometown, but I'm there for one of my oldest friends getting married to another one of my oldest friends.

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