And That's Why We Drink - E205 A Zero Gravity Wine Bra and a Coffee Date with Slender Man

Episode Date: January 10, 2021

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happy new year the year of sandwiches oh my gosh we did it we well we got out yes we got out it's like that point where you think we're safe like in a in a horror movie where you're like oh thank god we got out and then like you turn and there's just another horror awaiting you on the other side. That's why I don't sound very enthused, which is so sad. But it's kind of like after a year of like, so much stress. Yeah, I'm just still trying to catch my breath. I'm just like, whoo, well, I think we're okay. I think we're all a little afraid to get our hopes up with good reason, especially because I'm still being tagged in all the tweets that say like, remember when Christine said 2020 was going to be great and she feels like she has nothing to complain about.

And I'm like, okay, yeah, I know. So now I'm just going to not say, I'm not even going to say I want a sandwich because Lord knows we're going to have a bread shortage and that would be my worst nightmare come to reality. Actually, wow. I didn't even know. I'm going to say I want a sandwich because Lord knows we're going to have a bread shortage. And that would be my worst nightmare. Come actually. Wow. I didn't even know. I'm telling you. I didn't know how we could manifest a bad sandwich prediction.

But hmm. Okay. So everyone be careful with your bread. Just hang on real tight. Whether it's your sourdough, your rye, whatever you like. Just sourdough for me. Thanks. What was the bread that your mom made that I stole from you? Stole and like put conditioner all over the mirrors. Because that bread was delicious. My mother makes very good bread.

She drops it off at our house. That's one of the perks of moving home is she drops off a loaf of bread at our house like every week. Does she say anything or does she just leave it? No, she literally will just leave it here. And sometimes she forgets her key and it'll just be like on the porch in the rain and i'm like cool but i'm gonna eat it anyway duly noted so if you want to uh just completely be a crazy murderer triangulate you just gotta find christine's house and then you just leave bread there and she'll eat it it doesn't matter in kentucky where oh i thought you were gonna say it's a house in house in Kentucky where there's a loaf of bread just sitting on the porch.

That's me. No, you could just switch it out with poison bread. She'll never know. She's just gonna gobble it up. Oh, I see. Do you have any other ways maybe people could end my life this year in 2021 that have to do with sandwiches, apparently?

We'll stick with that one for this episode and every episode we'll just do a how to murder Christine this time. Great. Well, uh, anyway, I I'm looking at 2021, the new year as like, I know things are not different as far as like, you know, from one hour to the next, but I feel like it's symbolically, it's a good, like start over, like fresh start, you know, just let's try again. Let's try again.

It's the redo year that they'll be talking about in history books yeah yeah they're like the aftermath of the apocalypse like the rebuilding you know the we will rebuild yeah exactly it's been a rough what how many we're six days in and we're getting we're getting there we're six days in and i'm already like kind of like forming nervous ticks just like in case something goes down. I like I remember seeing all the videos, you know, a week ago. I'm talking about like it was yesteryear.

I guess it was. It was. But all these videos of people being like, we're going to walk real quietly into 2021. Not going to touch anything. We're just going to touch anything. Just look around and see what happens. It's like what my parents told me when we went to like any toy store like don't touch anything the grocery store because i was prone to steal a lot of food from the grocery store as a child uh were you were you

like all over all over twist i guess so i would just i was really captivated by packaging like i was very easy to trick and so uh if it was within stroller arm reach, I would grab it. It wasn't like you were like 10 and you were like, I got a pocket all these goods. No, no, no. Like, I mean, I did think that but it wasn't like I wasn't gonna get food if I went home without. But my parents would go shopping and then we would get in the car and they'd be like, I didn't buy that. I did you buy that? And I would just have like a, like a, like I'd be hoarding them. You'd be like, I bought it. Don't worry, mom. I bought it. I gave a wink to the cashier. She knew what it meant.

You gave one of those Gemini smiles and she was like, all right. I sure did. I was a schmoozer from the beginning. smiles and she was like all right i sure did i i wish i was a schmoozer from the beginning that does not surprise me at all apparently once i was in a stroller next to a kid in another stroller and i just like took their pacifier i never like had a pacifier growing up i just took their pacifier put it in my mouth and then spit it out and said that's gross in german and then put it back in their mouth and my mom was like yeah that's how you lived your life what if that was me and i'll and i still have this weird memory of like this weird german kid just grabbed my pacifier and then insulted my product and then

threw it back at me i was like i'm just captivated by packaging but it was really tricking me because it really wasn't as good as it made it out to be but maybe that was you that would have been wow you know to this day i'm still really intrigued by like mouth, like my chewy. I'm trying to avoid saying the embarrassing way of this, but I don't know another way. So I am one of those people who like really wish that it was socially acceptable as an adult to like have something to chew on like a chew toy. Like I think I've told you about this before, but like there are just some things you look at and you're like wow my molars are itching are itching yeah it's uh specifically like dr shoals foot inserts every time i well it'd be clean i would just go buy it at the store but it's probably filled with who knows what i don't care my molars don't okay this is how we're gonna

kill m this year we're gonna put dr shoals inserts inside a sandwich and say, here you go. Look, my jaw calls the shots when it comes to this kind of stuff. But I see it and I'm like, I just want to chew the shit out of you. Oh my god. So yeah, you could kill me that way. You could put some weird stuff in that plastic. I'm going to put it in your sandwich, yeah. Okay, yeah.

It could be a Dr. Scholl's foot sandwich. That'd be fine. Okay. Just spit everywhere anyway i'm saying like if adults could have pacifiers like i might have one purely to just chew i bet you they do make like for people with oral fixations as that's me to have um i bet you they do make like something you can chew on like a pencil you can actually chew on or something yeah or like the pencil erasers in middle school okay i would chew on those like i remember the taste still to this very day well anyway i have the oral fixation because a little german baby stole my oh i caused great so here we are the

most freudian thing ever you're telling me in our adult life that i caused your childhood trauma and big go fixation got it got it and now i'm planning to murder you because I guess you're my dad or something. You're welcome. Anyway, happy 2021. And hopefully, this is another wonderful year for and that's why we drink. We're coming up on four years now. I know another wonderful year, just like the year we bailed on our whole tour and question our entire sanity. And I will, okay, we did question our sanity, we did bail on our tour. But I will say in terms of if our if fingers crossed our podcast, you know, goes goes on for a very long time. This is probably the most relaxing year we'll ever have. That's true. It was like we were preparing mentally for travel. And then we suddenly stayed home a lot. you and I are good at

staying home take a nap for a year because things are about to get real rocky in 2021 like you're gonna be doing a lot of stuff that's true and the year after the it was the year after the like mega tour where we had to record and do everything on top of itself so it was kind of like wait it was self-care to record yeah yeah self- We deserved it. We deserved it. So anyway, I was thinking because we just kind of, I don't know if we necessarily made predictions for ourselves. I did make my sandwich prediction last episode about 2021. And that's going well. A lot of people have asked me already if I've been having sandwiches. The answer is yes, plenty. But in terms of predictions, I think that this is a very delightful episode topic that I'm

going to cover for you. Oh, can I make? Can I say something before we like intro before we start? I know you just said it was gonna be delightful. And now I'm just gonna make everybody out again. So I heard the word delightful and I went wait, you, wait. The brakes screeched. I'm turning this car around, kids. Before we get to Em's lovely story. Okay. I'm sure I'm already, I meant to text you this morning, Em, and I texted you about something else. And then I figured you might be sleeping. And so I forgot to text you. So I was sleeping. Okay. Well, so I am going to bring down the mood. I'm sorry, real quick, but also bring up the mood. I don't know. We'll see.

Maybe it'll even out. But I just wanted to say thank you to everybody who reached out after I made a very dramatic slash vulnerable post on Instagram and made a YouTube video. And I don't know. I guess I assume everyone sees our Instagram, but I'm sure like only a small percentage of people do or follow my YouTube channel. But for everybody, um, who's like, what's going on? Um, I made a video for YouTube. Um, I, okay. I, should I just say, I guess I should just say it, huh? Yeah. Just say it. I'm not good at being, I mean, it's literally

your life. So I'm not actually going to tell you what to do. You do whatever you want. I'm just going to take it. You're not going to tell me what to do since when? I'm not going to tell you what to do about this. That's for damn sure. Okay, fine. I asked Em to tell me what to do all the time. And Em's like, no, I'm not on this one.

Don't put me in charge, please. This one's on you. This one's on me. So don't worry, everybody. Everything's fine. But I had, had okay so last year i had three miscarriages consecutively i had to write this down because i got too nervous to like wing it um you wrote a speech i wrote a speech sit down stop interrupting my speech oh sorry

okay my bad my bad um anyway it was a very tough year for everybody i this is not part of my speech now i'm nervous everyone thinks i'm like reading. Just read, just read, just read the paper in front of you. To whom it may concern. Okay. Watching other people's videos was very helpful for me last year because I had, I went through kind of a tough time where I only, you know, was able to connect with like friends and family. And so I was watching a lot of other people's YouTube videos about their own experiences with miscarriages and infertility, et cetera. And it made me feel a lot better and less alone. And so I thought, you know what? I wasn't going to say anything anywhere on the podcast or online, but then I was like, you know what? If this just helps like one

person, I'm going to just put it out there. Go for it. Yeah. So I did. And I made a video about like what happened and like how I got through it and the quote unquote tips that helped me like I don't know deal with it like oh god well you have to watch the video wait okay um em's gonna steal it from the grocery store and not pay for it and ask me for the direct information that's for sure that's for sure I guess the spark notes I already forget I'm so nervous uh the spark notes was like uh journaling and um doing nothing that would really help me and it's hard for me to do like I mean it's not hard for me to do nothing like lay in bed but it's hard for me to do nothing like just lay there or you know just watch Netflix so that was really helpful um anyway I just like I posted that and

I didn't know how it was going to go. And I wasn't sure like what people how people would react. But everybody was it was like, the most mind blowing. Like, I went to a doctor's appointment, I got out and it was like, you have 3000 comments. And I was like, holy crap. And it was just the most, like people were DMing me and saying like, hey, I, some people literally said like, I had three miscarriages this year, too. Like, I mean, it was just really crazy how many people were like, I haven't told anyone. And you know, I, so I connected with a lot of people. I was very thankful and I just, it made me very humbled and very just like, Holy crap. Sometimes it gets lost

on me. Like how awesome our little community is. And I think it's kind of bananas how, how common it is. But yeah, a lot of people are free to talk about it. So and that's the other thing is like, I talked about how everyone I knew, not everyone I knew, but a lot of people were like, Oh, it's so common. It's so common, but that doesn't make it like any easier or like less scary or tough. And so I think it gets lost in the like, oh, it's really normal, but also nobody talks about it. So it's like that weird gray area of like, well, now what? So anyway, I'm just so thankful for all of you. And I love you all so much. And I am just, I don't know, I went into the new year feeling like, okay, at least we have all these awesome people that listen to us and

support us. And I'm just so thankful. Well, also, yeah, I was I was gonna say because I think it's like wild how common it is, but everyone's kind of afraid to talk. Yeah. So I think you probably did more of a good than I think you realize, because I'm sure there's a lot of people out there, especially last year, who I get to finally say last year, but all the people who like were home alone in dealing with that. Like I think you talking about it probably made a lot of people feel more comfortable in their own struggles. I hope so. And I appreciate that because I mean, full disclosure, it was like really helpful for me personally, like cathartic. And I'm from a German family.

We don't really talk about things emotionally speaking. And so I was like very surprised how many people wrote to me and like how much of an impact it had on me personally. And so, yeah, sometimes. Yeah. So I'm glad it went both ways. And anyway, I love you. I'm just feeling very like grateful for everybody including you. I did.

I did nothing. What are you talking about? You did. You are very supportive and kind. And I'm just thankful for everybody. So I just made you eat food with me that was it do you know how many people would pay for that privilege em and I get it for free I just I guess that's true I don't know I just remember you telling me at least you know the first time I was like okay let's go eat so I don't know what else to help you literally

like do you want pizza i don't know actually you said i watched the duggars don't worry i can handle this and i was like okay i literally the point of reference was the only point of reference i had which i will say in case people are upset with that comment at all but like i did preface it with i'm so sorry but this is the only information i can give you but I wouldn't have accepted anything less from you because I have my Christian stories the Duggars and the Bates and they have a lot of babies I was like I've heard some things about miscarriages and I was like this is the only information I can provide if it's not useful I am an asshole but if it is helpful

then let's go get food and then let's get food i mean really it was it was everything i needed so yeah anyway i know i i know that was an awkward thing to just force in the beginning but i just just it'd be way more awkward to force at the end that's very true or in the middle that would have been fun that would have been like an intermission or like a commercial break hang on i know you just talked about another mongoose in the walls, but I have something to say. Speaking of oddities. Okay. Well, anyway, you're I'm glad you're feeling better. I am feeling a lot better. Yes. And I feel very connected to everybody. And if you do want to see that video, because I just was also made it's like my most watched video on my YouTube channel now, which is interesting. But yeah, yeah i mean i guess we can just link it in the youtube our youtube or something i don't know

let's try again so there was something delightful i want to talk about um oh it was there weird no no there was a it's actually not i guess the delightful is not necessarily the right word but i i was trying to find a parallel between this story and new years and prediction is definitely oh a word you would find in both of those topics so uh this is definitely different hang on let me close my bathroom door i feel like god i have some guesses i you're not gonna get it no what is it nostradamus no but that's a that's a great one i would i just it occurred occurred to me that would be a fun topic someday eva write that down nostradamus and don't even look up how to spell it i want you to guess

well so this is uh i want to apologize because going into the year like I you would think that I'm going to like stick with a real art like I just looked at our calendar we already released an episode on January 3rd so apparently this is our second episode anyway so you're clear you're good hey guess what go for it whatever so okay well to us this is the first episode of the year because we're literally recording in January but um so I want to half apologize just because this isn't a paranormal story this isn't supernatural this is just weird if I had to put it in any category it's just weird I love um and uh so there's no I just if you're looking for spooky I don't know if this would really fall into that category,

but I have one to cover it and a few people have requested it. So I kind of just took that as, okay, well, this is, it's not even a story. This is just a list. I love a list. Come on. The, all the times that the Simpsons got the future, right? Cool.

And this is cool and spooky. I i it's if you don't know about it it's it's just that the the tv show the simpsons have oddly guessed many oh this is so fun um so i hope that it i'm sorry it's not ghosty or anything no but it is it's creepy i feel like it's still what sort of like mandela effecty like you know it's still definitely weird it's definitely like odd it's like mysterious uh-huh yeah yeah yeah uh so anyway this is uh me talking about the simpsons i assume eva knows this right because yeah no yes okay uh no i actually i think i told eva about this one a while ago and i there's just there's a lot it's really weird that how many things it's just it's it took a while because i was also doing

like additional research right before we recorded uh last night so it's just uh a lot can i make a note about the simpsons real quick when i I was little, my school had an actual assembly telling us not to watch The Simpsons. Why? Because they said it was immoral. Listen, Catholic school was... My parents are like, wait, we paid for what? And I'm like, oh, yeah, we had a whole assembly about... And I remember my friend Alyssa, who will never admit to this, but she was head of the

committee where they had to make a PowerPoint presentation of how terrible the simpsons was for your like christian brain and at that moment i literally was like i remember that moment being like that's my new favorite show and uh from then on it changed my life speaking of lists can we what i think it'd be a shorter list of catholic schools told you what you can watch. That's true. Probably not even the Duggars. I was going to say. So many, so few things. Well, certainly not the Simpsons. So if you were raised Catholic.

Oh, VeggieTales. Okay. I got to be honest though. I did love the VeggieTales. VeggieTales was a good VHS. Yeah. I got to say. I did tell you I'm easy to trick.

So in terms of like luring me in as a child, I had no idea it was even religious until it was too late i was just like these songs kind of slap and now i mean they do they still and then i was like why do i want to pray all of a sudden what's happening who's isaiah what's going on uh anyway so we'll do veggie tales and all of their craziness next week. I'm sure I could do like a very- That would be fun. I was going to say, if I did a story that was kind of like The Grinch and how he sold Christmas- Oh my god.

But I just covered the VeggieTales, I feel like it could get weird. I feel like there's like a parting of the Red Sea with like a green bean. I don't know. You could probably come up with all sorts of stuff. There's definitely something about that. All I know is that the little asparagus was my best friend growing up. Oh, I love him. Yes. I thought he was so cool. Here we are, the Simpsons. Different, different anthropomorphic things. This was my vice as a five-year-old, apparently.

Well, I don't really know how to start this one because it's not really a story. So I'm just going to just dive right into the notes. Yeah, simpsons were created by matt groenig um and it was first a i'm just trying to throw in some fun facts while i was at it it was first debuted on the tracy ullman show in 1987 as a short before it got its own series um and then two years later uh decemberth, 89, the first episode came out on Fox. And ever since then, it has been the longest running scripted primetime series to ever air in the country. So they're coming up right now on their 700th episode. Oh, my God.

Which like, we're almost halfway there. Whatever. Come on. Get with it, Simpsons. So I really just go straight into this like tried to break these predictions down into different categories just so they were easier to kind of swallow um because there is a lot of them and very easy to get overwhelmed uh as you'll see because it certainly happened to me so oh sorry i didn't want it mooney is in my girl. Look at that little curly Sue tail.

There's his butt. Okay. Oh, that's so sweet. Wait, can we get a close up face to face? Yeah. Come here, sweetie pie. Let me see that sweet little face. Say hi to Funkle. Oh, say hi to Funkle.

Okay. Oh, happy paws. Okay. He'll be back on his own terms. He's so slinky. Yeah. He's already gotten so big. I'm'm sad i want him to be a kitten forever he's fine he's fine it's funko m's fault yeah we'll blame it on me he doesn't even know who i am yet nothing it's ever funko m's fault funko m's the fun uncle talk to geo listen he'll tell you he'll show you what's what and rule number one is i'm always right and i'm

always fun i yeah i tried to break down these predictions just because it does get really i mean it's kind of bananas um and for those of you who didn't know like i i kind of very quickly touched on it um a couple minutes ago but in case you were unaware the simpsons because it's been around for so long. They've done a lot of episodes where it's either about the future or even in in their own like present day episodes, they'll just kind of briefly touch on something. And then, oddly enough, it's almost like they manifest these things and they actually become true. And it's weird how many events have happened after an episode aired. So that is the the real theme here today so it started pretty quickly the show the show first aired december 89 and in 1990 these predictions

started oh wow showing up so uh the first one i tried to do it in chronological order by the episode air date um just to give it some understanding or some ease um but so the first episode to come out that had a prediction was in 1990 it was season two episode four and uh so bart catches a three-eyed fish named blinky near the power plant um and it ends up making local headlines and, his mom ends up accidentally serving it to Mr. Burns. And in 2011, so this was what I why can I not do math all of a sudden 21 years later? Yes. A three eyed fish was actually found in Argentina, next to a power plant. And a lot of people started writing in their reports

that nobody accidentally ate him, luckily, because that's what would have happened on The Simpsons. So it's just little stupid things like that, where it's like, okay, so that's weird. That's like, yeah, where you can watch the show and be like, Oh, no, that actually happened where it's like, really? Also, because it was the first time it's like okay so 20 years later something like that happened what a coincidence but then as this starts happening if i were um i mean i'm not like the world's biggest simpsons fan that's just like not my jam but like if i were every episode i would be on edge at this yeah true if i were a writer i'd be okay, we're only writing really calm, pause, no, don't touch anything.

Exactly. Just we're going to walk into the writing room. We're going to not touch anything. Look around. So that was the first thing. The next time happened in 1993 in season five. And I guess the Simpsons have their own version of Siegfried and

Freud called Gunter and Ernst. And you, do you know who Siegfried and Freud is? Okay. So Siegfried and Freud, for those of you who don't know, they were a magician duo and they often performed in Vegas. They had tigers.

That was like their big thing. They would perform with tigers on stage that they had trained. Apparently they were like their real life domestic pets that they had taught the show performance too. But so on the Simpsons, the, the parody version of Siegfried and Roy in this episode, the tiger actually attacks them during a live performance.

10 years later, this actually really happened where one of their tigers attacked them during a live performance. So I don't know if you remember that. But for me, it was I remember that being like on all the tabloids and grocery stores and stuff. And I remember there being this huge argument about whether or not it was, we should be worried about the tiger. Like did he, did the tiger just snap and just become a tiger and just attack a human being? Or a lot of people said that the tiger actually sensed a stroke in Roy.

And so he was like trying to protect his owner, but he ended up protecting him by severely injuring him I don't really understand but there was a huge controversy I remember of people being like no no the tiger was right okay to be fair like don't fucking keep a tiger has tiger king caught you exactly taught you nothing right exactly so yeah i mean it's a tiger like hello it's going to bite you sorry no matter what the tiger wasn't wrong let's right right it was a tiger the tiger doesn't have a moral compass it's like a literal tiger it was like i smell fresh meat here i go uh but so but so anyway they ended up predicting that the tiger would attack and then it did attack exactly the same way during the live performance in vegas both in the show and in real time um the next one was in 1994 so only a year

later and in the actual the same season um it was still season five uh and on the simpsons lunch lady doris used assorted horse parts to make lunch for students at school god and then uh in 2013 uh foods being advertised in europe as containing beef had actually been declared as having horse meat oh so they had uh i remember that being a big thing where even that rumor started to trickle over here like especially in taco bell they were like oh taco bell is horse meat taco bell's horse meat yeah which by the way taco bell was one of the companies where they identified horse meat in their beef product oh no um either they it was undeclared horse meat or it was improperly declared horse meat and kind of like improperly declared you have to declare it

properly if you're gonna put horse meat in your food it was like a like a beef byproduct basically uh but so all of us so they predicted that there'd be a horse meat scandal and then it's now literally called the horse meat scandal in real life um also uh in that same year uh they showed nasa sending a random person into space on the simpsons this was in 1994 they did an episode where they just sending a random person into space on the Simpsons. This was a 1994. They did an episode where they just shot a random non astronaut into space. And in 2013, the UK sent a non astronaut named Oliver Knight into space.

Why? I don't know. I have, that sounds like its own story where it's like, can we interview that guy? Like, what was it like not understanding the controls of the rocket and just yeah being or you actually like can we interview you because are you like on earth or are you like in the sky are you here ever make it back are you okay are you okay is this broadcast reaching you like 200 years later

up in the stratosphere somewhere in 2013 all, Oliver Knight went to space, came back 2021 and was like, what happened? He's like, wait, no, no, I'm turning the ship around. Get back on the rocket. I want to go back up. I want to go back up that way. Take me back. Also in 1995 in season six, this one was actually a big episode in terms of predictions. But we'll,

we'll get to some of them later. So, but the main one is that Lisa goes to London and you can see in the skyline behind big Ben, there's a skyscraper that looks a lot like what is now called the shard, which is another big building in London, or I think in London. But that building didn't exist at the time.

It was just a random building that they drew in. But now it's eerily identical to the actual shard that ended up getting built 14 years later. Okay, that's creepy, especially because that's not even the writers. That's the animators, like just throwing their hat in the ring here. And they start i mean it just becomes such a normal thing where you're like oh what's that thing and then 15 years later it exists which is super creepy um also in this episode they predicted skype and they predicted uh they had like if they had a whole episode about video conferencing even though this was in 1995. And Skype didn't become a thing until 2003.

Wow. In 1997. In season 10, there was a sign in one of the clips. And it all these things are kind of background things. So you'll pay attention to like the smallest detail. It's almost like they're slipping them in manifesting them. So in season 10, was a clip uh where there's a sign that says 20th century fox as the logo and then underneath it it says a division of walt disney company and then 20 years later disney actually did buy stop what but like why would you even write that i don't know i don't know it's just such a weird thing like oh ha ha ha why would these companies have anything to do with each other oh sure i guess yeah it's like just a satirical thing yeah how weird so yeah 20 years later disney actually did buy fox um also in 1997 marge is reading a book to bart about the

ebola virus and in 2014 ebola broke out again oh god do you remember when Ebola broke out? Yes, I totally do. That was bananas. Also, like, eerily, kind of like the pandemic now, where, like, people were in hazmat suits. Terrified. Terrified of touching each other. I wish people were more terrified of touching each other now, but I guess the Ebola virus needs to come back for that to happen. I wish people treated this like the fucking Ebola virus. Yeah, like, really. I mean. fucking Ebola virus. Yeah, like really.

I mean. Also in 2007 The Simpsons predicted the NSA spying scandal. Oh. With Snowden and the NSA finding, like knowing every single thing you ever post or anything you upload or any picture you take, they can see it. Great. 2007 they predicted it and 2013

it happened. Another one is in 2013 there was a clip in a simpsons episode uh where homer is on the news and underneath him there's like a news like a breaking news headline that says europe puts greece on ebay and it is implying that there's like a huge financial crash and then two years later there was a massive greek financial crash uh fun fact that uh easter egg i guess is what we're calling this i don't know it's that prediction sense uh was found by a reddit user named my penis batman so oh shit sorry i thought i changed my username before i posted that i was

trying to be more professional but uh okay so here are just some sports ones that i think are kind of cool i tried to oh and i think sports are cool i'm listening finally all it took was the simpsons so uh just some sports predictions in 1992 uh there's an episode called lisa the greek and the buffalo bills lose the super bowl three Three days later, three days later, the Bills lost the Super Bowl. And then a year later, because they thought it was funny that they were able to predict the Super Bowl. So a year later for the next Super Bowl, the Simpsons were like, oh, let's play that episode Super Bowl Sunday, but let's rerecord the lines.

And like, oh, my God, let's like refresh the episode. And so they re predicted who would win the Superbowl and they were right. And then 1994, they did the exact same thing and they predicted it right again. So three years in a row, they played that on Superbowl Sunday and they were, were right. And then they were like,

we got to quit while we're ahead. Cause the second we stopped winning, it's like, it's over. That's smart. It's very smart. They were like, okay,

this is too much next time. We're not going to be right at all. Yep. Um, 2012, they, uh, that's smart it's very smart they were like okay this is too much next time we're not going to be right at all yep um 2012 they uh the simpsons had in a super bowl episode they had lady gaga performing in a silver outfit and hanging by wires and flying over the crowd and shut up being very weirdly identical to 2017 where lady gaga actually did perform in a silver outfit with wires. I'd like to think Lady Gaga was like, I have a fucking idea. I mean,

totally roll the tape. Let's just freak people out and let's just do it pretty much exactly as the Simpsons said. I love that idea. If that's the case. In 2010, Homer and Marge, they actually go to the Olympics and they win the USA's first gold medal in curling.

And they win against Sweden. And then only eight years later, the US won a gold medal in curling against Sweden. That's wild. That's pretty weird. In 2014, they predicted the FIFA corruption scandal. Oh, my God. they predicted the FIFA corruption scandal. Oh my God. And a year later it happened where FIFA officials,

executives, associates, pretty much a little bit of everyone. They were all charged with either corruption, money laundering, racketeering, and or wire fraud. Some of them,

I think were suspected and getting like bribes up to like $150 million. Like it was really fucking wild. But so they predicted that a year before it happened um and so i mean they're just little things like that and so over time uh a lot of simpsons fans have their own conspiracy theory that matt groening is a time traveler and so this has given me more goose cam than a lot of episodes. I don't know what you're talking about this not being creepy. Well, they with just like, with so many things happening one after the other and I wish I will put some pictures into we have pictures saved for if I

mention it, we have them in the in our YouTube version of this if you're listening to the audio, it's on YouTube. But if you look at the pictures pictures some of them are really creepy like it's just like the lady gaga super bowl one it's like it's too on the nose or like finding the shard behind big ben and then seeing the shard i mean it's just it's i think what's freaky is how subtle that is like it's so subtle that you wouldn't notice on first pass but then like years later you notice that's what freaks me out. Or like, it could be an accident. Like you're saying about like, oh, well, he was like, oh, no, there's I don't know. They just know there's a building there. But it's time travel. There's not yet. Also, I wonder how many people are seeing what goes on in the world and then intentionally go back and watch The Simpsons trying to find clues

that it Yeah, that's true. Oh, we tried to warn you because I I think that's what happened with the Greek financial crisis and then he was this guy happened to be watching the new or the the Simpsons episode where he was on the news and saw a little blip about it but it's also like so tiny you wouldn't pay attention until there's an event to compare it yeah that's true so anyway because a lot of people think that he's a time traveler they a lot of people also think that the biggest clue arguably that he's a time traveler is that after the simpsons he went on to create the show futurama right and so i never even put that together until you just said it it's just like rubbing it in your fucking face of like yeah i'm

from the future or like yeah i know how to go to the future and get information and put it into simpsons freaky um so there are a lot of other predictions this one category i'm about to do is that predictions that almost debunk this whole thing some people really are convinced of this man as a time traveler, by the way. Count me in on that list at this point. Well, these are other things that people have given the Simpsons credit for, but they've been able to be

debunked. So that's what this whole little section is. In 1994, there are two bullies that take a memo to beat up Martin on their new tech device. But the memo, instead of saying beat up Martin when they write it in, it says eat up Martha. And so it's foreshadowing autocorrecting.

Oh. And so like it was a lot of people said like they predicted in 1994 autocorrect. But a lot of people forget the device that they were using in the show was a legitimate device at the time. And it was known to have bad hand recognition. So it already had autocorrect already existed in a way. Basically, yeah, it was before the iPhone. It was called the Newton. It was an Apple product.

It was called the Newton. It was an Apple product. It was called the Newton. What? It was like a Palm Pilot? I was going to say it was basically a Palm Pilot or like the most, the fanciest version of a Palm Pilot before the iPhone started getting pitched. So it, I mean, it came with like a stylus and you would write and then it would almost like take your handwriting and then generate it in actual text. Oh, yeah, I do vaguely remember that.

Okay. So they even say it in the show when they say, oh, take a memo to meet up, beat up Martin. They say like, take a memo when you're Newton. But I think a lot of people don't know what a Newton is. Sure. I think they just assumed that it was like a fake product or something. Right. Okay.

But yeah, so actually Apple's former director, I think in like engineering or something said that that episode was inspiration to make sure that they got the iPhone keyboard right. Because they were like, they were like, even in the 90s are already roasting us for like autocorrect. And so maybe Matt went back in time and was like, we need to warn Apple to fucking fix this shit. You know, I like how he couldn't just walk into like a conference room and be like, this doesn't fucking fly. He had to write it into his own show and hope someone noticed. And also autocorrect, not like the fall of civilization, but autocorrect. Right, like 2020, whatever, pandemic, it's fine.

Autocorrect? No, no, no, no, no. And in 2021, by the way, there's still autocorrect problems. That's true. It hasn't really gotten that much better. His message to the world didn't totally translate, I guess. Almost like it was autocorrected. I was like, but I'm sure. But yeah, so a lot of people like to credit The Simpsons for predicting autocorrect, but it already existed. At least on that without one product.

Right. it already existed at least on that without one product. Right. Also in 1995, I mentioned a little bit earlier that Lisa and that one episode about Lisa, they predicted video conferencing. They also predicted smartwatches in that episode and they predicted robot librarians, which is basically like a digital computer library source.

Sure. All of which currently exists. JSTOR. JSTOR. But the one could argue that those things have been talked about forever. I mean, even like James Bond, like,

I mean his watch, his smartwatch where he could talk into it. I mean, and then he like sci-fi with like video call, like call. Right. Hologram like Star Wars, the hologram.

I mean, you can argue that that has always been a concept and they didn't really predict it makes sense here's a creepy one though uh in 1997 uh there was an episode where there was a framed brochure uh that it was about new york and it was basically like a pamphlet on like how to be a tourist in New York on the cheap. And so I think the brochure itself said like New York at $9 a day. And behind it because they wanted a picture of New York that everyone would recognize they had the Twin Towers on the back of the brochure or on behind the text on the brochure. on the back of the brochure or on behind the text on the brochure. So you see New York and then you see nine. And then behind it are two towers that look like 11. And it looks like 911.

What? The brochure itself looks like it's saying 911 with the Twin Towers as part of the image. Is that one of the photos you're putting in? Yeah. Can I look it up real quick? I'm just curious. nine eleven i'm trying to picture it nine eleven simpsons oh i see what you're saying with the not the nine dollars oh my god that is very creepy it's it's just one of those things where like you really wouldn't notice until 9-11 fucking happened and then you're like oh that's odd but there's like nothing else on it except for a nine and then the two towers.

Like it's not like the whole skyline. It's like just. It just says New York 9-11 basically. Yeah. And it's the Twin Towers. It's very odd. And that was in 1997. Okay.

And the writers have commented on that like, yeah, that one's weird. Like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like we can't explain this one away. Just like the Simpsons staff are very aware that people think they're time travelers at this point. And so when it came to the 911 one, they were like, okay, we hear you. And also that is weird. Like we're, we're on it. Also, in the year 2000, and an episode from season 11, they predicted Trump being president.

This is the one I've heard about, not like the only one I've heard about. Lisa was president in the future, is the whole concept of this episode. And she's struggling with a budget crisis because of President Trump. Shut up. Can you? What? A motorcycle I thought was going to crash into my fucking bedroom. I literally thought there was a ghost.

You're not even telling a ghost story. And I just assumed you saw a ghost. It's the ghost of President Trump. I mean, but no, so she's struggling with a budget crisis due to President Trump. I mean, that's pretty weird.

It's very weird. And also like, if you've seen that clip where like trump is on the elevator waving and the simpsons have you seen this uh probably but i can't remember it it's literally frame for frame this like it's like it's since you're googling things yeah yeah google trump simpsons trump on elevator oh it's like it's weird it's the exact same image cam again oh my god it's very weird it's very i mean and granted it's just a guy on an elevator at some point you were going to get a picture of him on an elevator i guess or on an escalator sorry um but uh it's just weird that he's like

waving the same motions are happening i mean it, it's it's it's really creepy. Unless someone on Trump's team is like a Simpsons writer and they were like, hey, this would be funny. Just like wave when you're going down the escalator. Somehow I doubt that they're that connected to pop culture, but maybe. One likes to imagine and also. Oh, apparently also. Oh, sorry. You're about to.

No, no, no. Go ahead. Go ahead. About the sign apparently somebody in the background dropped a sign like a supporter dropped a sign in the show really and it like happened in real life too get out of here i mean it's just weird it's just creepy um also in that same episode a lot of people have said that the simpsons manifested greta thurnberg okay at least they can do like some good things geez i'm good because greta and lisa are both passionate about

the environment and uh oh interesting so anyway so a lot of people have also said that there's that commonality so extra creepy um in 1990 there was an episode about the censorship of michael angelo's david uh the statue david the naked man uh-huh okay i'll keep describing him i love it the one with the penis that when you stand next to it is gargantuan my penis batman yeah i recall that's actually michael angelo's red user handle. So would you mind? So in 1990, there was an episode about censoring David. And this actually was a real censorship campaign in 2016. Apparently someone in Russia ended up creating this huge campaign about trying to put a fig leaf over his situation.

His wang. put a fig leaf over his situation, his wang. And, uh, but a lot of people also say, okay, the Simpsons didn't predict that because that wasn't like the first campaign to cover him up.

I guess ever since he was created, there have been like really like either, uh, either royalty or rich executives or whoever they are people have complained ever since he was created that they needed to cover him up love a good rich executive who's like i know what i need to spend my money on i love a good rich executive especially the one who's like i don't like the naked statue next to me i know i came in here to look at art but this one shocked me.

I actually feel threatened personally. Right. And it has nothing to do with my own way, but I'm very threatened. I'm not self-conscious. No. Okay. I'm not insecure. I just don't like seeing other naked people.

No, no, no, no, no. And then another prediction that they got credit for, but probably shouldn't have is that in 2010, prediction that they got credit for, but probably shouldn't have is that in 2010,

Milhouse predicts that Bengt R. Holmstrom wins the Nobel Prize in economics, which he did six years later. So a lot of people think that, you know, that's odd. But my understanding or my argument would be, I have a hunch that this Holmstrom guy was doing something pretty spectacular for years before he got a Nobel Prize. I have a hunch that this Holstrom guy was doing a little something spectacular. That's right. I have a feeling that this guy's up to something. He didn't just show up in 2016 and blow us all away. So unless maybe he did and I'm a real asshole.

Who knows? But I'm with you on this one. If this man did not exist and then in 2016 he won a Nobel Prize. Okay, yeah, that he won a Nobel Prize, I'd be like, okay, Matt Groening, you're right. But until then, I think the argument could be said that he was probably, you don't just win a Nobel Prize immediately. He was slated for it. He was probably on his way. So anyway, those are just some of the ones where people like to give the Simpsons credit. Oh, and with the Trump one, I never gave an explanation to that. So people like to say that the Simpsons predicted

that Trump would be president. But Trump has been flirting with the idea of becoming president since the 80s. And he even on Larry King in the 90s said that he already had a committee looking into it. So it's... And you know know Trump flirting is not cute. Not cute? Is it even flirting? Or is it just being direct and aggressive? Correct, it's that. It's saying, I have an idea. As a rich executive, I'm threatened by this big wang.

Wait a minute. I've never seen Trump and a naked David statue in the same room. That's because it's never been on The Simpsons. The second that episode airs we know it's gonna it's coming and he was probably he was probably the rich executive who just wanted a fig leaf over that man's crotch yes so here are two of the bigger theories that people really defend saying no no matt groening is a time traveler like without question this man is a time traveler um there's two major

uh pieces of evidence i suppose the first one is in 2008 there was an episode where homer is trying to vote for obama and the u.s general election but it is a faulty machine and it keeps changing his vote oh yeah um so every time homer tries to vote for obama uh the machine switches it to john mccain and four years later in 2012 there was the huge scandal of voting machines uh registering you incorrectly right um i guess in pennsylvania it started it was the first machine to do this and every time people voted for obama it would uh change it to mitt romney poor pennsylvania they can't get a fucking break over there apparently there's a video of this too if you'd like to see it is a youtube video called in all caps vote incorrectly registered 2012 presidential election

or like vote incorrectly registered yeah oh okay did i say it weird i know i just i was trying to to picture the words in my head. I got it. Vote incorrectly registered 2012 presidential election. In all caps. Got it. In all caps. So a lot of people say that, like, I guess some people think that before 2008, this wasn't like a real issue or like it wasn't even a discussion. It wasn't up for debate that this could possibly happen. Sure. And so the fact that on the show it happened and then four years later it became like one of the biggest scandals during an election people think okay well the simpsons are up to something the next one which i think is i would if i had to pick an argument i would

pick this one is that in 1998 there's an episode where homer is in uh is an inventor and a mathematician and he's standing in front of a uh blackboard with an equation on it and that equation like 15 years later ended up being the correct mass of the higgs boson particle the god particle what so uh they just like made that up and it was like oh this is oh my god and for those of you who don't know the the god particle is basically like the formula for like the existence of the universe or something it's like matter or something i mean i'm sure i'm not saying that right it's it's pretty bananas but i remember growing up in science class hearing like all about the higgs boson particle and we're so close to figuring it out it was like a big deal um and then uh like 14 or 15 years later the Simpson

particle or the Homer the Homer particle Homer they did it first so a lot of people blindly go in and say oh they just like guessed a fucking equation apparently there are people who say that equation was for a long time it was like the guess it was the best prediction they had and then later you know down the road they ended up finding out that they could confirm that that was the right okay okay so it's like a theory or something it was a theory and so a lot of people try to use that argument for like mac ronig is a time traveler but apparently a lot of the writing staff on the simpsons is are like went to harvard for math like they literally went to harvard okay so i think one of the um big excuses for where all of these rands and easter eggs come from, especially when it comes to math,

there's a surprisingly large amount of math Easter eggs in the Simpsons. And they all come from the fact that a lot of the writing staff have math degrees. That's weird. Okay. Interesting. So they think they, it's one of them probably just asked for the animators to put that into the,

on the blackboard that the Higgs boson particle equation would be up on the board and it ended up being correct later um so like I said a lot of people think that because uh the right the writing staff are academics that would explain why a lot of things end up happening later because they're able to critically think about the plausibilities in the future. There are two writers, especially named Mike Reese and Al Jean. Al Jean, I think is like one of the original,

original, original writers from the first episode. And he has confirmed that if you've looked hard enough, there are a lot of mathematical Easter eggs. And some believe that the predictions within the Simpsons is a testament to just the fact that they all have educational backgrounds. They're not just comedy writers. But other people, other people also think that that they're not using their education to write things in that statistically could happen. They think it's actually the reverse now where instead of predicting things, they're manifesting things.

Oh, okay. Which is interesting, because I do think to some degree, that's right, where like, they're basically putting things in. And because now they have this fandom of people looking for it, people are trying to get purely because they people looking for it people end up finding it purely because they're looking for it so um one example they made i didn't write this one down but they made some sort of like tomato based tobacco or something and called it like tamaco in one of the episodes and then because that episode came out someone ended up making it so i see so they literally manifested it because someone just wanted to prove it right yeah yeah yeah another one which is my personal favorite example because uh you know how i like got into like minor league baseball during the pandemic yeah so in 2001 the

uh the episode has homer protesting his baseball team the Springfield Isotopes, moving to Albuquerque. Oh, how funny. And pretty quickly after that episode came out, a new team was moving to Albuquerque and they voted to change their name to the Albuquerque Isotopes because of the episode. So it's little things like that where they've created their own domino effect.

Yeah. So anyway, what could still happen these are predictions oh god don't tell me please these are some things the great bread shortage of 2021 can you imagine if the one of the episodes i was about to talk about was like a complete bread shortage like oh don't even start the wonder bread factory comes crashing we're all eating dr sho's now to stay alive. I hope this podcast manifests nothing because at this point we're in danger. Listen, it's either there's no bread to eat or there's only foot inserts to eat. There's nothing in between.

Nothing in between. So these are things that some people think could still happen. And that the present day slash near future are showing signs of happening. So in season 11, the Simpsons go to 2030 where they're eating virtual fudge with VR glasses and feeding tubes, which is very likely to happen in the future that there's vr eating experiences and specifically right now i think royal caribbean their cruise line company is trying to create vr dining on

their ships what where basically i'm i'm guessing it's some sort of like while you're eating italian food you you're you're looking at like you're on the prettiest skyline of italy or something um but scientists at cornell i think you don't need to be a scientist at cornell for this apparently scientists christine schieffer at cornell found that eating cheese in a pleasant area makes the dining experience better. Yeah, no shit, Sherlock. Well, it's been scientifically proven now. Oh, my God. So, wait, I'm sorry.

We could put money toward that, but, like, we're not putting money toward, like, hey, male birth control. No, no, no, no. Right, right, right. We need to figure out how to eat cheese outside of your bed. That's the new plan. Which, by the way, the hardest step to that is getting out your bed that's the new which by the way the hardest step to that is getting out of bed like what are you talking about leave me alone in my

bed to eat my cheese so eating cheese and a pleasant i think they were testing it specifically with vr that if you were eating this cheese while also in a vr experience the cheese was more delightful than if you weren't in the VR experience. And so, uh, wild is that they're using that as one of the early signs to conceptualize VR dining. So I would love to be on trial.

If anyone's doing a test, like if you need a test subject, like I am fucking in it to win it. That's assuming that cheese is still involved. Like what if it's something else? Like Dr. Scholl's is part of the VR experience. The most pleasant way to eat your Dr. Scholl's inserts.

You know, if you eat your Dr. Scholl's while in a VR outer space setting, it's more fun than just eating foot inserts. Inside your bed. Yeah. Okay. Actually, I would love, does anyone out there have some grant money? Because I think Em and I need some money to make this happen i'm feeling hungry and i'm feeling antsy to get out of my room so let's put those together anyway so that episode of vr eating is very possible yeah how wild also another one is in 2016 there was an episode about the colonization of Mars. And currently, right now, Elon Musk's SpaceX is developing Mars cargo flights, which should happen, I think, this year, or maybe next year.

Oh, God, I'm getting goosecant again. All of this is so freaky to think about. And they also have for 2023, they're planning a citizen based trip around the moon. And in 2024, there is a human mission to Mars planned. I feel like I remember them like finding the people for that. Do you remember that? Why wasn't I called? I wanted to eat cheese up there. You and I were slated to be first pick. I had my Dr. Scholls ready.

Why didn't they call me? Wait a minute. Can you imagine you and I show up in our like shoe inserts and we're like we're ready for our trip to christine would bring a camera to vlog it on her youtube i would bring like my wine bra and i don't think anyone would fault me okay the best part is if you're in like zero gravity what's the wine bra up to oh sloshing my my man in the face i'm gonna have some floating honkers not back problems you won't have back problems that's for sure yeah yeah yeah but so a lot of people are uh a lot of people are

saying that that's possible although if the episode itself came out in 2016 i'm sure there was already discussion that yeah kind of prompted them to write the episode around that so i also wonder if the uh if those the writers themselves are doing a self fulfilling prophecy based on current events. Sure. I mean, especially if they're going to places like Harvard, they probably know about right, these sciencey things. Also, I know one person, I think one of the executive producers said that they have to write out 10 months in advance, because it takes about 10 months for a whole episode to go from. Oh, wow.

It's very start point to being on the air. Sure. So they're writing scripts and probably having to predict like, where will we be in just 10 months, which isn't really that far away, but still in the future. So I imagine if they heard in 2016, like the talk of colonization on Mars,

they were like, oh, maybe 10 months from now we've got like one more piece of. Yeah. So I wonder if that's how a lot of this. Did they predict Corona virus? Because we could have used it. We could have used a little clue.

I have, I have a bullet about Corona virus. Oh, okay. Real quick though. I'll say another thing that could still happen is hologram mail, which happens in an episode about the future where Bart gets like a Star Wars hologram message. Cool.

Which I am shocked doesn't happen. Actually, yeah. I think we like kind of actually skyrocketed past that technology because now we've got like FaceTime and shit. You don't really need a hologram, I guess. You don't need a pre-recorded image of me when I can just literally call you and tell you. Yeah, yeah. I guess you don't need a pre-recorded image of me when I can just literally call you and tell you. Yeah.

Which is interesting. Cause you think like, what did they think would be the peak of technology at one point? And you just totally flew past it. Totally. And season 23 Maggie is also in the future. Maggie gets an ultrasound from a robot nurse. And right now,

I mean, there are already medical robots we've all seen that video of the one like peeling grape skin and like resewing it back on i've never seen that oh it's creepy it sounds very creepy i think it's to show like um how precision or something like how microscopic precision they like because they literally take they do surgery on a grape where they peel off the skin and then they're able to sew the skin back on wow um but so like there's already nurses who do that or there's robot surgeons who do that um there's diagnostic robots i mean everything really is a robot these days if it's a truly computer we don't even think about it necessarily as a robot if it's like a computer, like you said. But Blaze and I were talking about that too with the pandemic now.

I think they're trying to fast, not necessarily fast track, but like use these tools more like robotic so you can be away from other people. And it's becoming more common. before coronavirus was some was even mentioned in february 2020 japan started making plans to develop a medical robot for ultrasounds just like how they mentioned in the simpsons episode specifically uh ultrasound robots that could work from people remotely so that people won't have to go into the they don't have to go into the hospital anymore. That's so smart. It also reminds me of the first time I really got to know Blaze's personality because he- A robot? Okay, where are you going with this?

Because remember he bought himself like that like $300 stethoscope and he was like, it has Bluetooth so you can send someone's like numbers. Like I remember him being like, what if you were a doctor in Alaska and you can't get to a hospital right away if you need if the hospital is somewhere else and you can go check someone's

heartbeat and then it can bluetooth sync to the nearest hospital oh yeah this guy is fucking crazy about his stethoscope which he by the way lost and it was a big disaster yeah it was bad but also he has these tools for ultrasounds too, where like you can, it's all very high tech and I'm just like baffled. He's like, oh, the doctors at your hospital don't use this when I go in for Remicade and stuff. And I'm like, no, they literally have like a thermometer they put on my face. Like there's nothing like, and he like goes to the emergency room with all his like weird tools and stuff. But yeah, there's a lot i will say i was i didn't even know that there could be a stethoscope that did that so he did blow my mind and make me

realize that like there's medical instruments that are like far beyond my understanding yeah totally but um but so anyway the episode was about uh ultrasound robots and now they're trying to actually make plans for ultrasound robots um also there was another episode where homer invested all their money in having an underwater home and currently underwater lodging is kind of booming like no way becoming a big travel destination there's a lot of like hotels that are now underwater i think it's something you would do i think it's something you would do yeah yeah uh there's uh i don't know if the whole hotel itself yet is but they have like a special suite where it happens to go under the water and you are basically your room is an aquarium or like how it gives me so much anxiety i would have dreams about the walls like breaking in and oh without question um i couldn't do it. But so apparently like they came up with that idea before this became a tourist attraction.

That's funny. And right now Japan is trying to create the Ocean Spiral, which is sustainable housing underwater for hundreds of people at a time. Listen, that's wild. It's literally like an apartment complex underwater and it would be completely powered i think by like the ocean's energy sure i just love that we're like on one end we're going to mars on the other end we're like no let's go further into the earth we're going high and we're going low and and we're not staying here that's for nowhere in between uh and then the last one i wanted to uh say real quick is that

there was an episode in 2016 where uh it predicted that ivanka trump is going to run for president 2028 great and homer was wearing an ivanka 2028 campaign button stop they have this specific year on it oh great yeah great so great great great then again like that happened in 2016 when trump became president so i'm sure there was like a a lot of talk about like oh i bet the rest of his family is gonna show you know like oh so anyway anyway like i'm sure like it when talk of trump was huge that was also a conversation so they potentially prophesied that Ivanka will be running for president and as for COVID uh a lot of people ended up falling for a meme that got created that implied that the Simpsons predicted COVID um it was like a bunch of different clips all

kind of mashed together to show you different parts of the episode that that hinted at COVID. But it was actually apparently a compilation of different episodes about just general colds. Somebody has too much time on their hands. Yeah, so it wasn't they did not predict COVID. But someone is putting information out there making it look like they did. But one executive producer named Bill Oakley, this is his quote when asked about this stuff. He says, it's mainly just coincidence because episodes are so old that history repeats itself,

which makes sense if it's been around for that long, at some point you can start picking up patterns, I think. And then writer Al Jean said, if you make enough predictions, then 10% will turn out to be right, which I think is kind of cool. And I went to harvard so you can't challenge my statistics i am a harvard mathematician 10 of the time i'm always right um and then the last thing i wanted to say is if you wanted to

see these episodes for yourself disney plus has a playlist collection called the simpsons predict for real and i don't know if all of the episodes are on there, but at least a chunk of them are all episodes with little clips where things have been predicted over time. So I didn't know. Anyway, those are the predictions from the Simpsons. Wow, that was so cool. I thank you. Oh, that gave me the shivers. Oh, good. That's fascinating. I'm telling you. I mean, it makes sense, though. Like, if you went to Harvard, so you're clearly smart.

You're clearly now educated. And you're writing, like, satirical comedy. So you're, like, supposed to be a judge of character. You probably have a very smart outlook on how the world's going to go. I would also think, because a lot of people say, when it comes to the simpsons if people are like oh i don't get their humor people say well you have to be like really smart to like keep up with it or it's like next level yeah yeah yeah so like i would imagine that their story when i was five because you were a fucking genius i didn't get it i was like what happened but uh but no so i mean it yeah it definitely makes sense that if like, all of the writers really prioritize academia and critical thinking, then why wouldn't something that they come up with

probably come true? Yeah, no, it makes total sense. So I mean, then again, maybe he is a time traveler. And he was like, I know how to make the longest running show in history. I mean, I'm not in academia. So like like i think for sure he's a time traveler without question that makes more sense to me and that's the only logical explanation so i'm saying matt groening and marty mcfly are the same person and that's that's the end that's m's uh dissertation from heart the end that's the final line of this episode. That's the thesis statement. Okay. Wow.

Well, that was fun, Em. I have actually, speaking of kind of like a wild ride, I have like a wild ride of a tale here for you. This is the story of Miriam Rodriguez. And it's a pretty newly broken story. So it's like kind of, guess who sent this to me and said you should cover this take one guess your mother al pal oh really what yeah she doesn't even text me what are you talking about bullshit bullshit yeah no she texted me an article from the new york times and said like you should cover this and i was i read it and i was like holy cannoli I would have never guessed it was Alice I was about to say like the name back to you that you just told me like Mary Rodriguez or whatever yeah she told she called me herself yeah but she's

like New York Times I got Christine Schieffer on speed dial we gotta tell my story oh god no what if it was the Simpsons they predicted all it. Matt Groening actually called you and said, like, here, hot off the press, read all about it. I'll throw you a bone. So this is a pretty newly... So Allison suggested this and sent me the New York Times article. So most of the info is from that article. It was like a really big piece. It's super well done and well written. And some of the pictures that will be in the video are from there as well. And then the rest is just taken from other, you know, news sources pretty much. But New York Times basically like made this big headlines. So nine years ago, on January 23rd, 2012, the world of the Rodriguez family of San Fernando, Tamaulipas, Mexico, was turned upside down.

Uh-oh. Dun, dun, dun. So Karen Alejandra Salina. There's a lot of names that I might mispronounce, and I apologize. Just heads up. Cool. Karen Alejandra Salina Rodriguez, who was 20 years old, was in her pickup truck about to merge into traffic when two trucks pulled up on either side, stopping her. Armed men forced their way into her truck and took off with her in the back seat.

Oh. It was the Zetas Drug Cartel. Los Zetas. Oh, I know them well. I know them well. They also called me. No. They were like, don't mention us.

I have a lot of friends. And I'm like, let me see how to pronounce it. Yeah. Los Zetas. Okay. So they were once an armed wing of the Gulf Cartel, but they're a Mexican criminal syndicate regarded as one of Mexico's most dangerous drug cartels. And they are known for their brutally violent torture tactics.

Sometimes they even, this sounds to me like a criminal minds episode they even organized death matches between the innocent people they had kidnapped what are death matches like made them like fight to the death like people they had kidnapped oh yeah and that actually is a criminal minds episode so maybe criminal minds also predicts the future. Wait a minute. Maybe Matt Groening also has a true crime podcast and then just turned it into a TV show and called it Criminal Minds and then went back to Futurama. Was that too much? No.

It was the right amount. Just continue. I just closed my eyes and kept walking with you. I don't know where we are. I think you closed your eyes and your head kind your head kind of started like bobbing around like trying to figure it out yeah my wine bra is sloshing left and right and you're just dragging me along you know what everything i said makes the most sense to me and you can't take that from me so thank you and i won't even try instead i'll read the next bullet thank you death match so according to a 2020 article in the irish times

more than 250 000 people have been killed and 60 000 have disappeared quote-unquote since former president felipe calderon launched the so-called drug war in 2006 wait and all of them are thought to be involved with that not that specific cartel but just within the sphere of like drug cartels and the quote unquote war on drugs. Those are like the casualties. I was like, Jesus Christ. Yeah. I mean, they are real bad. Like real bad.

But yeah, that was the total number. So Los Zetas were so feared that Karen, who was just kidnapped by them, her older brother, Luis, had actually moved away to escape the danger. them her older brother luis had actually moved away to escape the danger um but karen had stayed to finish school and help her mother run her shop which was a cowboy apparel shop called rodeo boots yeah so she stayed to help her mom run the shop um and finish her school and unfortunately she was didn't make it so 2012 in like specifically, was a very, very dark time in San Fernando. Many bars and restaurants had closed out of a fear of shootouts. And get this, mass graves were so common that finding fewer than 20 remains at a time was barely worth the headline. Yeah.

Oh, my God. It was just a war zone. Like, it was just a war zone like it was just terrible jesus okay um los setas would snatch innocent people for ransom to finance their war or they would uh kidnap them to conscript them basically for their side so they would like kidnap them and then force them to join them wow in their gang wow um karen unfortunately had become their latest target but oddly enough uh she ended up unexpectedly uh not being the only person to disappear that day so they took her from her truck drove her to her family's home where karen lived during the week while her mom uh was away

who she her mom worked as a nanny in texas during the week so her mom would be gone during the week and karen would like watch the house basically got it cool so they took her to her house um and while she was on the living room floor laying there bound and gagged somebody knocked at the door and it was a mechanic who had unfortunately picked the wrong time to work on the family truck right okay i mean out of a fucking movie so he comes and knocks on the door the kidnappers panic and grab him too and then they flee with the both of them that poor fucking guy i know so the rodriguez's were soon contacted by karen's kidnappers asking them for $2,000. And so the cartel ended up, like I said, they didn't expect to kidnap this mechanic. So they just ended up letting him go.

He wasn't their target. So they kept Karen. Lucky. I know. And sent a message to Karen's family. So this was all very planned out. So they sent a message to Karen's family asking for $2,000. to karen's family asking for two thousand dollars um so miss rodriguez um karen's mother miriam questioned this mechanic in detail about everything he had heard or seen during the

brief time that he was with them uh and alongside karen and then miriam took out a loan from a bank that offered lines of credits for such payments so i guess this is just the ransom loan bank um yeah i guess oh and uh she and her husband followed all the instructions uh he dropped off the bag of cash near the health clinic that they had asked him to drop the cash off at and then he waited at the local cemetery for the kidnappers to free karen but shockingly not shockingly karen never came so that was basically the start of this like horribly torturous like endless back and forth negotiation between the family and the cartel the weeks that followed were like i mean it was like very very heartbreaking and i read there was i think it was a new york times article but they talked about like how when somebody

disappears from your family or like a loved one disappears, you don't even get that closure or that grief process that like people do if someone dies because you get strung along by hope. Hope, yeah. And it ends up just crushing you because you're like up and down and up and down. At any second they could come home, yeah. Right, right. And you can't like get closure in that way. So anyway, it was this horrible back and forth negotiation. There were calls, threats, false promises they more money they kept sending more money um but the rodriguez family

like couldn't give up on their daughter they just thought like maybe this time they'll actually take the money and give her back um so one day uh sick and tired of getting nowhere in the plea to have her daughter returned miriam rodriguez decided she was going to just reach out to the cartel and ask them to meet up. Oh, okay. And they were like, sure. Get together. Just have a cup of coffee or something. Legitimately.

Wow. So to her shock and to my shock, they were like, yeah, sure. Let's get together. To my shock. Yeah. Uh, so she waited at a restaurant downtown called El, oh God, El Junior. It's spelled like junior. El Junior.

Uh, until she was joined by a slender man wearing, not slender man. Okay. I was like, this took quite a turn. Can you imagine a slender man ran the cartel? Oh my God. And also a, a, a moth man. Oh my God. He runs the competing cartel.

Yeah. A moth man? Oh, my God. He runs the competing cartel, yeah. So this, like, kind of lanky man shows up. He's wearing a walkie-talkie, and he sits down across from her. Okay. So she spends the time, like, begging him to release her daughter, and he has his little radio, his walkie-talkie that's kind of burbling i don't know the right word like it's kind of talking on and off gurgling gurgling babbling i don't know what's muttering muttering something it's talking itself away um kind of like we do i was gonna say so the man insisted that the cartel did not have her daughter but he offered to help find her for a fee of two thousand dollars so miss rodriguez agreed to pay even though she didn't have much

hope that this was true and as he left through the static of his burbling radio uh she heard someone call him by his name and his name was sama okay so this is just like an origin story for you it feels like it's so right it's like okay dramatic we've got a clue and obviously i'm not right exactly i'm not doing the doing the new york times article justice obviously but um it's really well done so um although miriam does send him the two thousand,000, after a week, he just completely stops answering her calls. So again, just more money lost and no hope left. She instead starts being bombarded with other people claiming to be the kidnappers. I mean, this is where you just see like the worst of humanity, like people just taking advantage of this.

People just want your money. Yeah, and calling and saying like, no, no no we know where she is give us the money and they'd say things like just five hundred dollars and the rodriguez family like couldn't stop they just like kept sending it because they thought like maybe this is the real one yeah yeah think of how fast like you could get cleaned out just because like maybe one of these people is telling the truth exactly and so they kept sending it to everybody that asked um but they said the money anyways a new burst of hope would fill miriam every time she sent a payment and then it would be crushed again when there was no call back and no sign of karen so by this point miriam who was actually already separated from her husband

actually moved in with her older daughter azalea um azalea recalls one morning a few weeks after the last payment that her mother came down the stairs and told her very like matter-of-factly very calmly said karen is never coming back and there's little chance she's alive and then she said that she wouldn't stop until she found the people who had taken her daughter and she would hunt them down until the day she died. Okay. Just very matter of fact. Yeah. So Miriam didn't have much to go off, but she did have her first clue.

Sama. Yes. So she took that and then she took all the information that the mechanic had told her about anything he could remember from being in that scenario and she then did a very christine move and got on facebook and started to stalk their social media i mean what else do you do at that point right what other resource do you have like she already met up with the guy in person like yeah at this point social media is probably the only the best bet so basically she just needed to find sama whoever this sama character was she needed to find him um so she started sleuthing social media uh hours upon hours she scrolled through karen's facebook

profile looking for any clues of how she might have been stalked or connected to these people and then one morning her sleuthing leads her to a facebook photograph tagged with the name sama and it was the same fucking guy she recognized his his like lanky build uh his clean shaven face she was like that's the guy i met with so finally she had that slender man that's slender man yeah my coffee date yes so she she picked she picked up on this immediately and was like okay so first step in her hunt so standing beside him in the photo that she found was a young woman and she was wearing the uniform of an ice cream shop that was two hours away in a different city. This is Christine. It's like if Christine.

I know. I was like, yes, girl. It's like if Christine and Liam Neeson got together to do like the reboot of Taken. That's just, I got goose cam for real. It's just not Taken, but like the Christine files. The Christine sits on the the problem is it would be the worst movie because i would literally just be on instagram it would just be you want to it would be you on a couch scrolling through facebook and that'd be like three-fourths of the the whole

episode and downloading like because i so when i was in oh god like a pre-teen i got really good at like scouring like county files, like county tax files. It's like really a problem. Like I developed quite, I mean, to be fair, I finally got my kind of comeuppance when I got that PI job. And I was like, I was gonna say this is again, you're Liam Neeson, because you're like, I have a very specific set of skills that nobody taught me and nobody should know. And yet here I am. And nobody cares about because they're not going to help you in life at all. And yet if you need to know all about a county clerk from five years ago, I will teach you everything I know. Oh, I got you, man. I got you.

So I was just like, yes, Miriam, get it. Because I was like, that's exactly how you do this shit. So she sees the woman he's with and she has this uniform on and it's an ice cream shop. So she finds the ice cream shop. It's two hours away. So, oh my God, I just love this woman. So what she does, where am I? I already lost my spot. Oh my God. Ice cream. So worked up. Ice cream. You remember. Liam Neeson. Yeah. Okay. So instead of calling the police, Miriam decides she's just going to keep taking this into her own hands. I mean, she's doing a good job. Like Liam Neeson. Exactly.

You're not letting me have this moment here, but yet every other sentence you say confirms my point here. Yes, Miriam Neeson. Okay. Yes, there it is. It's all I wanted. You can have it so she drives to this shop two hours away and stalks the ice cream store for for weeks until she like fully has memorized this woman's working schedule and then she waits outside during her shifts until one day sama

shows up to meet his girlfriend at the ice cream shop. Oh, my gosh. So she follows the couple home, writes down their address. I just love this because she doesn't, like, confront them. She just, like, does sleuthing from the back. She lets life do what it's going to do. Totally. And she's an observer. Totally.

I also, that was bold for her with one picture to assume that they were dating or would ever see each other again, though. Because. I know. was bold for her with one picture to assume that they were dating or would ever see each other again though because i know i would have thought like okay well they were in a picture together but like i'm in a picture with a lot of people i literally never see again from that picture she had their profile so maybe she could tell like oh you know what i mean because he was tagged in it uh-huh yeah i'm not positive but i was shocked too i went like wait they're dating i was like that's a that's a leap to be like oh he'll definitely be at the ice cream shop at some point. Totally. I was thinking the same thing.

Yeah. I'm wondering if like maybe who knows what the caption was or maybe. Yeah. I don't know. Hopefully it says, I love my Slender Man, especially when I work from two to six every Thursday at this ice cream shop. His favorite is mint chocolate chip. Also, our address is this and we have your child. two to six every thursday at this ice cream shop his favorite is mint chocolate chip and also our address is this and we have your child also here's your daughter and all your money back i would

right um so she follows them to their house writes down their address and she then contacted the police to let them know of her findings just be like i'll let you in on my intel um but they said in order for them to do anything she needs more than an address she needs a name sama yeah so she knows sama but that's it she doesn't i guess know any more detail about this guy and they need like his identity in order to go get him um so she's like all right fine so she cuts her hair and dyes it bright red good night so that uh sama won't recognize her and then she finds a government uniform that she happened to have kept from an old low-level job at the health ministry which again sounds very christine because i'm a a nut who like keeps everything just in case. If there was a PI uniform you got, you own it to this day.

If there's like a uniform from an ice cream shop I got, I probably still own it. Oh my God. I literally still have my hat from Chipotle. Like why not? That's pretty cool though, to be fair. I was like, no one else gets one of these. No, that's actually pretty cool. Unless you earned your place above the corn salsa

oh yeah once uh so when we left la blaze was leaving his job at the hospital there obviously and i was like oh he's like i'm gonna throw these scrubs away and i was like no i want to keep them he's like why i was like i don't know and i still have them and i'm like what am i supposed to do with these i don't know but i have them just in case like it's really silly, but my my mom, she's about to change out the flooring in the basement. And it's the same carpet since we moved in in 96. And so I told her I was like, can you cut a square out for me? And she was like, what will you do with this? And I was like, you don't need to know. And I don't even need to know. I just want it. I don't even need to know. Just cut me a square.

I don't know why you can't just say yes and move on. That's all I want. Em and I are highly sentimental people. I don't think you've noticed, everybody, from listening to the show. It's one of those things where it's like we, neither of us know what we're going to do with our carpet or our scrubs. Certainly. But in the middle of the night one night, we're going to figure it out. And it's going to be so fucking genius.

It will be i mean listen if miriam needed it to literally capture these murderers like who knows what a carpet might do well even like my so my uh my grandpa who passed away his wife always saved all of his ties after he died and so i guess this year for christmas it hasn't gotten to me yet but apparently she made each of the grandkids um a pillow out of all of his ties that is so cute so like imagine what you can do with scrubs because those are much fatter than ties thank you i mean i hope he doesn't die because i don't want it i don't want a reason to make a sentimental item with it but well i'm just saying you could make it for the cats and be like, look, that is a great idea. Halloween costumes. Listen, the options are endless. If you have any, tweet them at me.

Endless. You could be Liam Neeson in a hospital. You could just I could show up to a hospital and say, I am Liam Neeson. And you could just wear the scrubs and go on Facebook and you have your whole costume right there. There we go. Listen, I could impersonate Blaze. I've done it. It's fun.

You have done it. That's true. Well, do you want to do it again? Because I have like six pairs of socks. I was going to say. With his name on it. Only if I can have the $300 stethoscope with my costume this time. Oh, man.

Well, it's in the streets of LA somewhere because it got lost. So you could probably find it. I'll do some dumpster diving. Okay. it got lost so you could probably find it i'll do some uh some dumpster diving okay anyway so she has this uniform from an old like low-level job that she's kept miraculously so she dyes her hair red puts on this uniform somehow gets her hands on like a fake official looking id and she starts conducting a fake poll of sama's neighborhood to get his basic information and with this information now she goes to the authorities local state and federal with his identity but no one will fucking help her she has like a whole like laptop laptop bag full of files uh they described her as a she looked

like a door-to-door salesperson uh She went from person to person and was like, please help me. And she was not taking no for an answer, but everybody was telling her no. Eventually, she finds a federal police officer willing to assist. And this man has remained anonymous because he said he's not allowed to speak publicly.

But he was quoted in the article as saying, when she pulled her files onto the table, I had never seen anything like it. The details and information gathered by this woman working all alone were incredible she had gone to every single level of government and they had slammed the door in her face to help her hunt down the people who took her daughter it was the greatest privilege of my career whoa so first of all that sounds like how anyone would discuss that's how me and eva talk about you after you do the most basic Instagram search. You're like, find this person based on this side profile.

And I'm like, here's their social security. I've literally seen you go off of someone's eye color and first name and find everything one could know about them. So yeah, I would be really impressed. That's a really big compliment. I appreciate it. I feel like I wasted so many hours of my life developing those skills and when i was not hanging out at parties in high school so i appreciate uh the the kindness toward them oh my gosh um so then uh she finally got this guy to

help her but at this point it was too late because this MF-er, Sama, had left town. So he didn't live there anymore. So she was like, well, shit, I went through all that trouble to get his address. And now he's gone. So she was frustrated, heartbroken, like annoyed. But she was like, well, I'm going to keep going. So Miriam continued with her social media stalky skills. And she tried to identify the rest of the crew. And soon enough, she had a stack of photos of

sama posing with other people so she kind of gathered like his friend group and found the identities of these other people he was spending time with as all of his homies totally and then on september 15 2014 which is the eve of mexican independence day the wildest shit happens like this is where the universe was like okay miriam i'll throw you a bone so miriam rodriguez's son luis was closing down his own shop in ciudad victoria to attend the independence day festivities with his family which is like street parties parades fireworks so he's closing down his shop and he notices one last customer who's browsing the hat section and it it was a young, slender man. And he looks at him and he's like, holy shit, that's that Sama guy my mom is trying to track down.

And he just happens to be in his shop. Like he's just wandering the hat aisle. What? Okay. So I'm like, thank God. Celebrities, they're just like you. I know. Browsing the fedoras.

Yeah, just like me oh my god so yeah so he goes holy shit that's the guy my mom's like trying to find so really stealthily Luis follows him home careful not to lose him and then obviously has called police as well

to say like I've spotted this guy come get him so he follows him home and the police arrest sama in the central plaza so they fucking nailed him wow when they were arresting he was kicking and screaming and he claimed he had a heart condition which i don't think is even true and was basically like freaking out and uh they were able to bring him to the police station unscathed and in custody he actually filled in details missing from miss rodriguez's investigation and he revealed some of the names and locations of

accomplices that she had like gotten photos of and so finally she's filling in the gaps of like what she could get from social media and now what he's telling her or telling the police. Wow. So one of the names was this kid basically named Cristian Jose Zapata Gonzalez. An 18 year old. He had like just turned 18. So he had been a teenager. Which is just very sad. And he was

terrified during this police questioning. And Ms. Rodriguez sat outside the interrogation room with a friend and she was watching this go on and the teenager asked if he could see his mother and then he told the officer he was hungry so miriam touched entered the room and gave the teenager her own fried chicken lunch and then left to buy him a coke and came back to bring him a coke and the officer was like what are you doing miriam

like we're trying to interrogate this guy and you're feeding him chicken and i mean am i also sorry no no continue no no it was not important i when i said whoa when you first said that she gave him her fried chicken i was like that's not even just like a normal lunch that's not a bologna sandwich yeah yeah that's not that's not your average joe you know caesar salad that's not even just, like, a normal lunch. It's not a bologna sandwich. Yeah. Yeah. That's not your average Joe Caesar salad. That's the creme de la creme right there. And that's not an extra. That's her lunch, too. Yeah.

Like, you should have given it to him after he solely found your child. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should have, like, dangled it in front of him and said, like, this is for. Yeah, exactly. But it worked because he's like this officer is like what the hell are you doing miriam and she replied that this boy was still a child no matter what he did and i am still a mother which wow makes me tear up so we're gonna keep going that's such a that's such a kind wonderful maternal way to look at it right it's so powerful in a space where i

don't have the instincts for that yet so yeah yeah, totally. Would have never thought that way. Wow. You and I giving up our fried chicken. It's not gonna happen. We don't give each other fried chicken. Unless you have a million dollars in that sweet little pocket of yours. You are not touching my more fried chicken. Right? To replace this fried chicken I'm about to lose. I don't even eat fried chicken anymore. But the thought is just like so disheartening. I literally, while you were talking, I, without even thinking, because I'm at home and able to use my laptop right now,

without even thinking, I have shown up at Postmates on Popeyes. It just appeared. It's like sleep eating. Well, like we're doing this at like lunchtime, my time. And I, without even thinking, Freudian, I am about to apparently order some fried chicken after this. I tell you guys, we can kill M pretties.

I know M wants to kill me with bread. It'd be so simple. I would drop dead. The worst is that both of ours is food related. That's pretty telling, I think. It really, I mean, it's, I do think about like in terms of like, oh, how easy would it be for someone to get me?

So easy. I do think about like in terms of like, oh, how easy would it be for someone to get me? So like, it's embarrassing how it would be difficult to keep me alive. Yeah, I hear these stories. And I'm like, I can't relate to any of this because my instincts are so bad. I would probably just like sit on Facebook. Survival. I'd be too scared to call somebody as Miriam. So I would just sit at home and find their Facebook and be like well dead end i can't make a phone call because i have anxiety time to eat more chicken time to eat my fried chicken um so she basically says i'm still a

mother and he's still a child which is just like putting yourself above the whole situation and it's just so heartbreaking um and her generosity worked in her favor because after eating and accepting her lunch, Christian told them everything. He said that Mexican Marines had killed six of the other accomplices of Karen's kidnapping and murder, but he said, I'm willing to take you to the ranch where they killed them and where their bodies should still be buried.

Whoa. So he led them to an abandoned ranch, and I'm going to put the photo up in the YouTube video. At the end of a dirt road where a tractor marked a grave site. And so Miriam was obviously there with the search party. And they found bones of varying sizes. They found bullet holes on the outer walls of the house. There was a noose hanging from a tree branch nearby.

Yeah. I mean, really disturbing imagery. They also found a stack of personal belongings and amongst the debris, Miriam found Karen's scarf. And she was like, she was, Oh no. It's just that like sinking feeling.

Yeah. So she finds her scarf. She also finds a seat cushion from Karen's truck. So she's like scarf. She also finds a seat cushion from Karen's truck. So she's like she was here. But forensic agents claim Karen was not among the dozens of bodies they had identified at the ranch. But seeing the scarf and knowing what she knows, Miriam's like, no, no, I don't believe you. My daughter has to be here. Right.

She was definitely here at some point. Exactly. There's no chance that she made it and nobody else did or that her scarf made it there and she didn't or yeah it's just like no no her her fucking seat got here yeah right but every part of her got here yeah exactly so she's like no no i'm gonna dispute you on this and uh so i put a little less than three symbol next to this bullet, like a little heart, like a little heart shape. Because it says a lot of officials had grown tired with Miriam Rodriguez's pushy attitude. They said she swore a lot and had a foul manner about her.

And I'm like, yeah, I would. Yeah, duh. I have one and I don't even have a daughter to look for. Like, bingo. Yeah, sorry. It would be weird if she didn't have a pushy attitude or whatever can you imagine if she was like that's fine never mind totally she has a pushy attitude but she's like giving fried chicken to like a little boy i mean she's not a fucking terrible

person like this just makes me mad yeah so apparently they said they they i think i'm gonna read this bull in a minute but they said they didn't like her but they respected her which i was like okay that's pretty badass i guess yeah you know like i'll take it yeah um so as we already suspected miriam was right the following year a group of scientists found a piece of femur bone belonging to her daughter at the ranch so she was right and the officials like i said began to respect her because now she's like right about all of this. And she's basically moving this investigation forward herself. And they didn't particularly like her, but they did respect her. And Miss Gloria Garza, an official in the state government, said, quote, not everyone got along with her, but you respected her mission.

I mean, how could you not? So now this is where it gets even just wilder. So on the drive back from the ranch, Miss Rodriguez passed Miriam, passed a barbecue restaurant near the entrance of the dirt road that led to the ranch. And she recognized this place. It's like sort of a flashback. She remembered having eaten there with her daughter Azalea only two days after karen disappeared and at the time there was a neighborhood resident there her name is elvia yulee yuleeza baiton court bettencourt and she had been seated at a table by herself drinking a soda and so miriam is remembering like two days after karen disappeared she was

there with her older her other daughter and she saw this like neighbor of theirs that she had known since she was a kid. Like she had known this woman since she was a child. Wow. And this woman, Elvia, had been abandoned by her mother who was a sex worker at the local brothel. And Miriam actually used to give Elvia Karen's old clothes to like help support her as she was growing up. So it was like she was the wow the young woman that what a nice woman at all turns jeez every time I'm like waiting for her to like snap and it's like I would it'd be totally justifiable but every little piece I mean I know

that one was like part of her past but I'm like when does she become when does she have one bad flaw I so far I have seen none. It's such a good movie. It's like she's a vigilante, but like with a heart of gold. You just want her to win. You just want her to win. Totally. So she recognizes, so this is, she's having this flashback moment when she sees this restaurant

near the ranch. And she's like, I remember I was there with Azalea and I saw this woman, Elvia. I remember I was there with Azalea and I saw this woman, Elvia. And so that day, Miss Miriam had gone and said hello to Elvia and had said, have you heard about the news about Karen disappearing? And everyone had heard this news. It's not a big town at all. And Elvia goes, no, I don't know anything about it. And she is thinking back now. I literally have a goose can't know anything about it. And she is thinking back now.

I literally have goose cam just thinking about this. She's thinking back now in this flashback, like it always struck me as weird that she acted like she had never heard this news, even though everybody knew about it. Right. Yeah. And now she's putting these pieces together of like, this is right next to the ranch where my daughter's body was found. next to the ranch where my daughter's body was found this woman was acting so weird and like knew the fam knew our family and acted like she hadn't heard anything about karen's disappearance so i mean a lot of dots to connect that are very far apart where i'm like holy sure rap so after driving by this restaurant she starts to think maybe elvia knew something maybe she was even sitting in that restaurant to uh alert the cartel if the police

were coming to the ranch like maybe she was a lookout type person uh-huh okay so uh miriam races home she dives back into her research aka social media and she discovers that elvia was indeed romantically involved with one of karen's kidnappers what i know uh oh i don't know if you can see the goose yeah right it's like it's like okay so shivery um and this guy this kidnapper was already in prison for an unrelated crime but so she confirmed that elvia was indeed most likely had some intel um so what she did is just like the ice cream shop she waited outside of the prison during visiting hours every single day waiting for elvia to come visit her boyfriend in jail wow and one day she's such a badass i'm sorry i'm just like she's like well i guess we're doing the waiting game again i guess i gotta sit

in my car and she's fucking rocking it i mean i this woman okay i'm sorry such a badass no truly like oh my yeah so she sits outside until elvia finally shows up and calls police and is like founder and so police show up and literally take her in and then they also discover that some of the ransom calls had actually been had actually come from elvia's house so like this woman that had no she had like clothed her as a child and is now what i was gonna say the b word but what what about what what a what a big butthead what a what a what a booty head you know What a big butt head. What a booty head, you know? What a big booty head. Yes.

Wow. I mean, yeah. Someone who's actually tended to you and been there for you. Taking care of you when your mother abandoned you. Oh, my God. That's so terrible. Okay. So they take her in, find out that the ransom calls had come from her house and uh miriam keeps

going on her mission she's just like left and right just like put them away put them away she's like i'll fucking handle it don't worry no one else is doing it so i'll do it i'll text you when i find them geez um some of the culprits were already dead. Like I said, this was a very hostile and violent time in the area. Others were in jail. So she was looking for anyone who was still alive or still out on the street. And a lot of them had actually already started doing trying to forge a new life, either taxi driving, delivering gas, just being in sales or nannying. And so this made it extra difficult because they had basically started leading new lives and had gotten their way out of the gang. So basically, her entire mission wasn't her entire mission basically turned this town like upside down. So her friends at some points, which understandably, they were worried about her. And they were like, maybe she's taking this too far. This is like the most dangerous gang in Mexico. And she's just like asking them for coffee and following them home.

Like, I mean, understandably, they were nervous. But one of her friends recalls her saying, I don't care if they kill me. I died the day they killed my daughter. I want to end this. I'm going to take out the people who hurt my daughter and they can do whatever they want to me i mean truly like i mean that's a mom right there right that's like just like i would i mean i'd do anything for my kid yep yep it's it's shivery um so she's like thanks for your concern but i'm gonna keep going so this peace and blessings but um i'm on my way thoughts and prayers to you and yours i'm gonna keep going so this peace and blessings but um i'm on my way thoughts and

prayers to you and yours i'm gonna keep on my merry way um yeah so she keeps fucking going and the whole town is like on edge now because she's like i guess it was like unheard of that you go publicly go after a gang in mexico like there was a silent agreement you don't mess with them they don't mess with you but no she's just like flying in the face of that and saying she's just poking the bear. Exactly. Exactly. So her next target was a guy named Enrique Yoel. Oh, God, I'm probably saying that wrong. Rubio Flores, who is a born again Christian living in Aldama, a small town of about 13,000 people. Miriam tracked down his grandmother and paid her a visit. And miriam told her about the situation and according to uh atlanta news now the grandmother with a heavy sigh told her that the boy had always

been trouble but at least now he was going to church uh oh because when when i first heard that i was thinking like oh if you tell grandma what he's up to he's gonna get in fucking trouble but then it was like grandma was like yeah that checks out yeah he was in a shame yeah it is a shame so uh guess where miriam went she went to church she went to his she just went to every single church and waited every single day right for all the mass times to figure out when exactly he'd be there yeah so the grandma's like at least he's going to church and she's like okay cool where does he go to church and she's like yeah this place down the road so she goes to his. And she's like, okay, cool. Where does he go to church? And she's like, yeah, this place down the road.

So she goes to his church and she starts attending service at the chapel. And sure enough, she sees him there and calls the police. And she's like, I found another one. So police come and arrest him inside the chapel. And nobody could believe like what was going on. Because again, he was this like reformed man. And one of the parishioners actually asked miriam for mercy like where's your mercy but according to her family who had

actually come with her to the church she firmly replied where was his compassion when they killed my daughter oh yeah bingo like right where's your mercy it's like mercy yeah i don't know her what are you talking about right it's just so wild to me. So the investigation continued. And according to the New York Times, this is like just I think the best way to sum this up. Quote, Miriam cut her hair, dyed it, disguised herself as a pollster, a health worker, an election official to get names and addresses. She invented excuses to meet their families, unsuspecting grandmothers and cousins who gave her details, however small. She knew their habits, friends, hometowns, childhoods, end quote. It's just so cool. Her next target was a man she had been hunting for a year. And this is kind of where

things turn. So she had- This is where things turn? Okay. They turn like back to, I don't know, in a big circle. It's just all so chaotic. They turn 360 degrees actually, or don't know, in a big circle. It's just all so chaotic. They turn 360 degrees, actually. Or no, 180. They turn into a big tornado and everything just goes everywhere. Okay. So her next target was this man. She'd been hunting him for a year and she had interrogated the criminals he had worked with to find his whereabouts and had even befriended some of his relatives for clues. So she discovered that he was actually working in Texas as a florist,

which he had actually done before joining the Zeta cartel and getting involved in her daughter's kidnapping. So he was on the run, and now he was back to selling flowers, which is what he had done before. So apparently as soon as she discovered his whereabouts, she woke up without even getting showered or dressed, threw a trench coat over her pajamas, a cap over her like still bright red hair put a gun in her purse and headed for the border to find this there's no time to waste she was like get my go get my galoshes get

my rain hat we're on our way we're on my rain hat over my pajamas i'm picturing like paddington bear now i am too i was about like with like a machine gun all of a sudden mama bear but paddington bear like the machine gun i'm thinking of paddington bear but after puberty where he's like buffed out he's like maternity edition oh yeah yeah sure however you need it yes oh beautiful so so she takes a gun she gets to the border on the bridge she's scouring the vendors for flower carts. But apparently he's selling sunglasses this day. But she sees him and she gets too excited and too close.

And apparently he recognizes her and runs. So he sprints along the narrow pedestrian pass trying to get away. And Miriam, who at this time, by the way, is 56, grabs grabs him by the shirt wrestles him to the rails jams her handgun into his back and says if you move i'll shoot you wow and by the way her family members are with her again they're just like going with her here's juniper by the way um her family members are just going with her to all these places and being like mom be careful and she's like running out with the handgun i mean it sounds almost like a national lampoon situation of like oh we're all on a family holiday spring break yeah but the only reason we're even at this spring break is because we

have to go find this murderer and also oh there goes mom again with the gun oh who gave mom a gun yeah chasing him down wow and also what a full circle because I mean, truly in like in a movie sense of storytelling, it's like this was such a lovely, nice woman who donates clothes and helps children. And now all of a sudden she's like on the outskirts of town with a vigilante throwing a gun into someone's back looking for her kid. Oh, yeah. It's so badass. And like, you're right.

You're like so root for growth character development character development you ever heard of it simpsons writers yeah okay check it out next time you're in the future not bring it back here because we need it okay um so she wrestles him to the ground uh or to the rails jams a handgun to his back says if you move i'll shoot you and apparently she held him there for nearly an hour waiting for the police to arrive which i can only imagine that hour of like holding a gun to him and being like nope we're still sitting here that's like that like mom lifting a bus yeah your kids totally the adrenaline must have just been insane yeah totally mama bear no joke don't mess don't mess so miriam's campaign uh unfortunately took a turn for the worst because in march of

2017 nearly two dozen prisoners escaped the penitentiary in ciudad victoria where miss rodriguez had put away her daughter's killer so several of the people she'd already put away escaped from jail great so now she has to go back out and do this all over again you let him you let him go it's like mousetrap you know you had one job i got him for you just keep him here true like i put them here just like close the door oh they're out so naturally she became worried because she is becoming, you know, expectedly Los Zetas' number one enemy. So she asked the government for protection. And so the police are like, oh, yeah, we'll send periodic patrols to your home and work.

And she's like, okay. Thank you. Thank you for the bare minimum. Thank you. But also that's not what I want. It's not going to work. But thanks, guys. Yeah.

So she's frustrated by their inaction but she still kept going like she didn't stop her rogue mission um uh so she oh my god this is just uh she decides to find her next target and it's a young woman who had left town and begun working as a live-in nanny for a family in ciudad victoria and classic miriam literally sits outside this house in her car for several days waiting for the young woman to leave at this point at this point it really is classic miriam classic miriam she's she's got one one real tell-all and it's when she's sitting and waiting for days to figure out a schedule she's in that and she's in that acura out front and you're like oh mom there she is There she is. Oh, my gosh.

So she sat literally in her car to the point M that she was urinating in cups. Like, she didn't leave the car. Oh, my God. She apparently ran her car battery down listening to the radio in the dark, so much so that Louise had to come sneak onto the street to jump her car for her. Okay. Mom. That's just like the quirky little sidekick that shows up every now and then he's like not again i gotta put my galoshes on

she spots the woman leaving the house finally after several days police get her but while miriam is excitedly running to the scene she breaks her foot and fractures her foot so a couple a month later she's still wearing her cast and using crutches and on mother's day may 10th which is mother's day in mexico um as miriam exited her car at 10 21 p.m on her crutches a white nissan truck carrying men who had escaped the prison in march quietly pulled up behind her according to the police report they fired 13 rounds and she died instantly wow that is not the ending i expected i know that was where my heart just like sank into my stomach whoa okay wow so is that a vn situation Almost. Horribly, her husband who was inside watching TV found her face down outside their house on the street, hand tucked inside her purse next to her pistol.

I mean, it was like one of those moments that sparked like everybody to kind of finally acknowledge how bad things were. And the Mexican government scrambled to react. They got two of the culprits back in prison. A couple others were killed in a gunfight. And as for the people who ordered the hit on Miriam, apparently their identities are still a mystery for whatever reason. Whoa. still a mystery for whatever reason whoa um and so in june about a month after miriam's death officials in the state of vera cruz uh acted with information miriam had provided and arrested yet another suspect in karen's case and this is pretty graphic this gets to like what the cartel was doing um so it turns out this woman that they arrested later had beaten and tortured Karen during the kidnapping, hanging her up like a boxing bag and punching her.

And after that, the woman fled to Veracruz, where she drove a taxi for a living while raising her son. So they had found another perpetrator. perpetrator and louise her son was obviously devastated but he and he for a little while was obsessing over who these mysterious killers were that had killed his mother but he basically said he learned his lesson and said i won't make the same mistakes as my mom like i don't want this to take over my life and end my life because i'm obsessing over her murder so she had done so much um for not only herself and her daughter but for local families as So she had done so much for not only herself and her daughter, but for local families as well. She had started a collective of parents

of abducted children. And her son, Luis, actually took it over when she died. And after Miriam's death, the governor of Tamaulipas tweeted that the state government will not allow the death of Miriam Rodriguez to be one more statistic.

So her campaign, all wrapped up, ended up being made up of case files, witness testimony, confessions from the criminals she tracked down, dozens of interviews with relatives, police officers, friends, officials and local residents. And it basically like turned this town San Fernando on its head. So she had taken down 10 people. No one had ever challenged organized crime in this way and definitely had never put members of the cartel in prison like on their own before. Wow. And so people were very inspired by her fight, were angry at her death. And so they placed a bronze plaque honoring her in the central plaza of the town. The BBC even reported that the Thursday after her death, mothers protested in Mexico City holding portraits of their missing children during an anti-government march. And as I was texting Allison, like, I'm covering the story this week, she was like, man, I can't believe it's not a

feature film yet. And then I discovered that Blumhouse, excitingly, has acquired the rights to the story and is planning to make, I believe, a feature film or maybe a show i'm not sure about her story so i think this is not the end of us hearing about miriam because the article came out in december so it's a very recent uh wow like brand new hot off the press wow yeah sorry that was long but that is uh that's the story wow miss miriam i'm glad i'm glad there's gonna be a tv show or miriam eason i'm glad there's gonna be some sort of uh show about that that first of all it really does feel like it should be a movie or yes it does it does i agree but also i think it'll be nice to an honoring of her of I agree. We recognize how fucking hard

you went with this and how like the effort you went in for it. Wow. I have never heard of that story. I guess it's... Me neither. Brand new, but...

Okay, but also I was about to get mad at Allison because I was like, I live with her and she didn't tell me about this. No, but she wants me to cover it for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Not. That's why I decided to not be mad. Also, it was like a 10-page article, so don't worry. to cover it for you. Yeah, not. That's why I decided to not be mad. Also, it's like a 10 page article. So don't worry. I read it for you. Yeah, I appreciate that. Anyway, that was a great story.

I mean, I really did not end the way that I wanted it to. I know that part just kind of sank my heart. But you would think after enough like spy action movie moves like that yeah like you only win at the end the universe has your side yeah yeah well anyway good storytelling christine yay thank you you as well this was a crazy episode i think it was way crazy i was gonna think of a different word but then i couldn't think of one bananas bananas noodles noodles food food oh i have to go order fried chicken now actually i'm hungry well uh thank you to everyone listening happy new year hopefully things definitely go better

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