And That's Why We Drink - E425 Our Pancake Era and Cosmic Sleep Mysteries

Episode Date: March 30, 2025

It’s Episode 425 and we’ve Ore-gone to Oregon! This week Em brings us the third and final part of the Miracle of Laon aka the Exorcisms of Nicola Aubry, where we have a little Wicked Beelzebub moment. Then Christine brings us some breaking news! with the Aaron Goodwin murder plot, the true crime and paranormal crossover we never expected. And lookout for a lady in white bathrobe haunting your next hotel! …and that’s why we drink! Christine’s Sources: People.com, New York Post, Fox News, E! Online, The Sun, Fox35 Orlando, CBS6, Clark County, NV Arrest Records, Yahoo Entertainment, The Cut, Page Six, 10News For a list of resources or ways to help those affected by the fires in Los Angeles visit: bit.ly/atwwdfirehelp ! The Pour Decisions Tour is back on the road! Get your tickets today at andthatswhywedrink.com/live ! ______________________ Upgrade your sleep during Boll & Branch’s Annual Spring Event! For a limited time, get 20% off at BollAndBranch.com/drink Go to http://helixsleep.com/drink for 20% Off SitewideStart your hair growth journey with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code DRINK. Pick up GOODLES on your next shopping trip... it’s available nationwide at major grocery stores and retailers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yes. Portland, Oregon. Oregon, not Oregon. Well, I think it's sort of the same. Portland, Oregon, Oregon, Oregon. All right. Let's do this for an hour. It's just not Oregon. I know that. I'm in Oregon. I say Oregon, whether or not that's true. Oregon, well, I think it's close enough. They gave me this really bizarro hotel room. I recorded Beach, She's Seein' Me here yesterday, so this really does feel like my own. I told my brother that I got this Matisse on the wall,

and he was like, why did you cut it into three pieces? And I was like, first of all, he's meant to be a stepdad. He is! And then they gave me like a little fireplace, except I don't know if I know how to work it, and a little bathtub. And I was like, this is such a little fun.

And you have your own lady in white over there in that bathrobe standing perfectly upright. Oh my gosh, you scared me. I didn't know she was part of the room, but there she is. Do you ever use the bath robes in a hotel? I did yesterday because I took a bath and I was like, well, then I guess I use a bath. And I'm wearing these, which like,

they're like the little cities. Okay. So I thought like- You got a spa? What the hell's going on? It sort of is. Like, I don't know. It's really cute.

I made like myself a little cheese board from the market next door. I've just been kind of in my little... Oh yeah, you're... It's like 39 degrees out right now. So I'm like, I don't wanna leave. I just wanna be inside. I was gonna say, this is your first real solo travel.

How's it going? Right, it's my Eat, Pray, Love adventure. I slept in a train. It was so nice and it was storming. So it was like all that kind of thundery, like inside a train caboose. Honestly, that was the best I've slept in a long time. Did it look like a train caboose or did they just turn it into a hotel room?

Oh my God, look, oh, the inside, it's really cool. It's kind of a combo. I'll send you the pictures. I meant to yesterday, but I was driving all day. I'll send you guys the pictures and we can post them, but it was so like charming because it had all the wood paneling. I got to sit up in the cupola thing and like, you know, look out at the mountains.

And it was great. And then the next day I went to Weed, California and I bought a bunch of little souvenirs because of course. I bet you did. And then I drove through a blizzard and they said, no further driving unless you have chains on your tires. And I said, excuse me everybody, I'm coming through without chains on my tires. But honestly, I was like, what do I do?

I don't wanna get like pull over. I don't know, there's nowhere else to go. So I just like kept driving and hoped no one would look at my tires. And then I made it to the other side. So it's all good. Good, great. That's awesome.

I would have been like, okay, well, I'm never driving again. As you know, I'm so terrified the other side. So it's all good. Good, great. That's awesome. I would have been like, okay, well I'm never driving again. As you know, I'm so terrified of snow driving. Listen, after that snowbank incident, I feel invincible. I'm like, you could throw me in a snowbank and I'd be like, been there, done that. Of, out of the car accidents that could have came from us driving on bad snow, that was a great one.

Of all, okay, yeah. If it's just like check and done, like, please, let's leave that as the one, because it really was a good story. Yeah. And nobody got hurt. We just slid around a little, you know? Yeah, and like I got to eat my own words

of being like, I'm good at driving in snow, and then all of a sudden. You're still the better of all of us, for sure. I don't know if that's true. I think I'm just more boldly confident for no good reason. All right. Well, yeah. It's got new places. Tell me about your life. What are you up to? Yesterday I did quite a lot of things. I was out from like eight in the morning until like one in the morning.

What? Just, yeah. What were you doing? Anything worth noting? Well, I'm trying to see all the sites, but like I knew going into Portland, it was gonna be a toughie because there's so much and it's all weird. So I had to-

Did you do any repeats or was it just like all stuff that you- It was all, well, I've never really done any repeats cause anytime we've been to Portland before, I have friends that live here. And so I like as much as I love the part of our job where I get to see friends that live at a state, what that means is I have to like sacrifice my own

like solo travel days because they're like, oh, let me take you around. And I'm like, that's really nice. But I also had a list of shit I wanted to do. And like- Yeah, sorry. I have a lot of errands to run. Yeah, so I haven't told my friends that I'm in town.

So I'm trying to do all those things. We won't tell. Because they do know, they're coming to the show, they know that I'm going to be in town, and they took the day off tomorrow to hang out with me, so I'm trying to do all my stuff before tomorrow. Is there a favorite thing that you've done, or one that you're most excited about?

Hmm. There was, I went to a, like, you know, like the barbecue places where you can, like, make your own meat on the table. They had one of those but for pancakes. So I made my own pancakes for breakfast. Oh, wait, that's cute. Is that what your shirt is? I was about to say, your shirt said pancake, I thought. No, actually, that's interesting that you... I was trying to figure out what it said. It is a pancake reference too. What's going on? Wow, you're in your pancake era, I guess. Hmm, that is weird.

There's something subconscious going on. I tried to make a nice little segue and it was just totally... I'll tell you the one thing that I hated and I'll never do again was there's this place here called the Witch's Castle. Hang on, this is actually way better of a bit. What's the least favorite thing you've done so far? Let's ask that question. It was, it's like a, I don't know the story, I'm assuming it was once like a house on the river in the woods and it just got abandoned and so over time

it's like overgrown and people like have graffitied it. Now it's like this art installment place. And it's like like a house full of murals basically but it's abandoned in the woods so I was like oh I'm gonna go there because the site I looked at that said oh it's just like a half mile away it's like a like a 10-minute walk 15-minute walk and I was like okay great that's not a problem nobody mentioned the fucking elevation and it was basically it was it was the hardest exercise of my life. Wait, how long did you go before you were like, shit, I can't turn around now?

Or were you just like, it must be here any second and you just kept walking? So I would have stopped even earlier than I did, but I drove so far to get there and I was like, well, I wanna make the drive, I don't wanna you've wasted my time then you well that's even worse I thought like walk like now. I have to do it. Oh No, I'm driving into the woods and so luckily it was like I wasn't like going into like in a band part of the woods like a lot of people use this like

It was like a tourist area like a little right attraction So I I saw other people of a lot while I was walking there, but oh my God, it was like the, and every person was better than me in the fucking woods. Every single person there was like meant for the woods. They just ran and just, and they're- They're in Oregon, they're from Oregon. Of course they are.

That they, it's like built into their nature, you know? They were like out of breath and smiling about it. And I was like, what the fuck is going on? We're having so much fun, yeah. Yeah, and also the worst, worst part is that it like just rained here. And so half of it was like, I'm not kidding. It looked like I was walking on banana peels

and I was almost slipping. And it was terrifying because there's no railing. It's just over. Just like, if you fall, you're dead. And so I was like, if I, and I I couldn't and going uphill and the slippery mud was even worse so I was like I might as well just keep going down that was stupid I should have gone up when I was higher up because I'm having to go back up and down yep and then and then get this so then I finally get get all the way back

up that sucked I was like literally so out of breath for a long time and then everyone that walked by me knew that I wasn't from there. And I was like, are you M from that's what we drink? I was worried. I was. I'm worried. Maybe they could have helped you. Maybe. Got in a stretcher or something. And so once I finally got up and I was like dying, I found out apparently there's two trails

to get to the witch's house. No. And one of them is much easier. Okay, but that feels like you just kind of willed it into existence, you know what I mean? I know, well, everyone saw me and they're like, oh, you came from that way? Oh yeah, you must be out of breath.

What is wrong with you? Okay, at least that's good. At least that's normal. Like that they're like, whoa, that's a tough trail, right? Yeah, I guess so. But anyway, I'll never do it again. I got the pictures I wanted and now I'm never going back. I can't wait to also never do it.

Because you've got to go. And I just feel like that already gives me a pass. Other than that, I have done a lot of really cool stuff and there's like a lot of creepy themed bars out here. I literally went to, these are just some of the bars I've been to. There was one called Creepies, there was one called Raven's Manor, there was one called The Uncanny, there was one called The Coffin Club. Jesus!

There was a few others like that too. They get the vibe So anyway, there's a lot of I'm trying and like I'm trying to just get all of it done Yeah before I'm with my friends because I don't want to make them I Don't want to make them play tourist, you know, I mean, so if you told them you're going to the coffin club They'd probably be excited but Maybe but also I when I'm in my solo travel brain, I don't even wanna talk to anyone, so after today, I have to shake it off

and get back into social mode. Yeah. So I don't really want anyone with me on this stuff. I got you. So today is another busy day of a lot of- Well, you're kinda like the dad doing the schedule, but you're by yourself, so it's Well, you're kind of like the dad doing the schedule, but it's like you're by yourself, so it's almost like you're the dad and the child.

You're like, come on, let's go family, but it's just you. It's kind of nice. Like then there's no infighting between everybody. That's true. Well, I'm infighting with myself, except for you on the muddy trail when you're about to fall off a cliff. It's like, dad!

Like trying to time everything, because I had to like very strategically, like I think I went to like 50 locations yesterday. Like if I, like I don't have my notepad with me, but it's like, it was nonstop. And so it's been, like there would be times where I was like, I'm really hungry and it's like food isn't for nine stops. Like I had to just be like the angry dad to myself on the trip. Anyway, your way sounds so different than mine.

Listen, I'm fucking living the dream, except that I'm not sleeping very well. But honestly, you can hear the ads of this podcast and know that it's real. I was not lying. I'm sleeping terribly without my home mattress and home sheets. And that's a real serious problem.

Oh, I texted you the pictures. Your phone's probably on, do not disturb. But if you want to look, we can also post them because it was pretty beautiful. Oh. Scroll through, it's kind of cool. It's very precious. Is this just through Airbnb or?

No, it's called the Railroad Park Lodge and they have um all these different cabooses you can pick from to sleep in. It's very you. I loved it because you basically you just pull in you park next to your little car they give you a key and then you're just like this is my train. Very you. What did you really have the caboose or did you have? Yeah they're all cabooses so they're all cabooses because theyoses. Oh, which one in the lineup were you? Oh, I was number 25. Well, I picked 26 because it was yellow,

which is Leona's favorite color. But then they were like, oh, there's a leak because of the giant storm. And I was like, oh, okay, yeah, put me in 25 instead. That's fine. But yeah, I was in number 25, but they're all kind of like in a big circle. They don't really, I think the locomotive that they have, which is like the thing that pulls

all the cabooses, the locomotive I think is the dining car and they have a restaurant in there. Fun. Yeah, it's cool. But they of course were closed because of all the storming. So I did order Taco Bell and I did get it delivered to my caboose and I did feel that was also a unique experience. Yeah, yeah, definitely. to my caboose and I did feel that was also a unique experience. Yeah, yeah, definitely. It's a good time.

Well, Christine, is there a reason why you drink? Well, because I am so excited for my portion today, folks. I have a breaking news update later that you guys are gonna wanna hear, okay? So, Em has part three, which I'm fucking stoked for. I'm not, I'm so over this. I can't wait to tell them their story. Three episodes in a row is a long time,

especially when we're recording over weeks of time. I know, for us it's been like two months and I'm just like, I want this story to be over. Somebody commented like how unprofessional that Christine forgot part two. And basically everyone was like, are you new here? Like, of course Christine forgot part two. Also like if that's unprofessional,

get ready for the rest of everything we've ever done. Get ready for just all of what we've already bitched about. Anyway, so I drink because of just the nonsense that's been happening out there, and I had to basically do notes that were emergency notes. I didn't have to do anything. I chose to do emergency. Most of the first page of mine are in in all capital letters. So, um,

yeah, that's why I drink. Do you have a reason? Um, besides your, your really strict schedule right now? Um, I know I, I will, I guess, yeah, I just, I don't feel like I have enough time to get everything done. I mean, honestly that sliding off a mountain to find a witch cabin feels pretty good. I know, but I feel like one of the things I'm mad about with that, on top of the fact that I had to exert energy, oh my God, was that it took, it fed, it ate up so much of my itinerary. Like,

I had to drive all the way out there, then I had to walk forever and then walk back and then drive back. Like, I just feel like I lost time. So I feel even more pressed for time today, which like my day, there's like a certain time that everything starts today. I know, guess what? Em didn't make me do anything. Em made me woke up at 8.45 AM and I was like, what, where am I?

I'm sorry. No, no, no, I was fine. I went to bed early enough. I'm just being a huge baby and they have coffee here. But yeah, I'm excited because if Em says we're recording at eight or nine a.m., that means there are wild times ahead for Em. For me, it's more bed. But for Em, there's lots of fun stuff going on.

Lest we forget the New Orleans trip where I woke up at like 530 in the morning. I'll never fucking forget. Because the itinerary is so strict, I have to be there. I woke up at 11 and said, Eva, the itinerary is strict, we have to get to the boozy brunch by noon when they stop doing bottomless mimosas. So we went down there and we checked and Eva was, we were like, where's Em? And we looked and you were like inside a swamp. And we were like, hello, what happened? Em was like, I've Em? And we looked and you were like inside a swamp and we were like, hello, what happened?

Em was like, I've been up for five hours anyway, I'll never forget. I cannot, like truly medically, I actually need to see somebody about how I cannot physically wake up ever early. But the second I'm on a trip and I have 24 hours, my brain wakes the fuck up. It's like the opposite of everybody else, you know, I know it's like well It's like when am I gonna be back here? I guess you know, we don't have a strict schedule during the week So it's sort of like you're not waking up at 8 a.m. Every day when you're at home, you know Mm-hmm. I've had to start with Leona. So when I travel I'm like, oh I get to sleep past 830

Fuck yeah, I think if I were in a different like place in my life, things would shift. But I'm trying to do as much as I can. But like, there was, we just went to like San Luis Obispo and like, love you girl. But I was like, I'd seen it all within a day. You know what I mean? Portland, I was like, I need minimum a week and I have two days. So I like need to get, I need to do as much as I physically can. Okay, so that's why I drank and I drank water because I have nothing else in this hotel room. I drink coffee because I made sure it would be prepared for me by the time I woke up.

And by prepared for me, I hit the button on the Keurig and there we go. Perfect, that's lovely. Thank you. So I know I talk about this a lot, but I'm constantly having some sleep issues. I was just texting Emma about it last night. And then when I travel, I'm like, why can't I sleep? It's because my whole bed set up at home is no longer accessible to me.

And even the nicest hotels, I'm like, it's not the same as my Helix mattress. I miss it. I miss it so much. And my back hurts now whenever I don't sleep on it. I've just become dependent on the thing. I've learned that if I don't sleep on my mattress at home, then I have to have this whole little show in my hotel room of what pillow goes under what leg. And it's a nightmare because I just need

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Um, and it's the possession of a little girl named Nicola Aubry. And this was in the 16th century during tensions between the Catholics and Protestants. Gotta love it. And Team Catholic thinks that the sacrament is the literal body and blood of Christ, Protestants do not. And so this is a story that fed into Catholic rhetoric that was very anti-Protestant because it was saying, it was agreeing that the sacrament is legitimate. It was sort of like propaganda for the Catholics.

So I'm so sorry to do this to everybody, but we have to do a recap. I tried to get it as concise as possible. 15 year old Nicola is possessed by something and after enough priests work with her, they figure out that the spirit inside of her is Beelzebub. On top of that, Beelzebub later says, it's not just me in here, there's 30 fucking spirits inside of Nicola.

Surprise. And then because of that, Nicola is eventually given public exorcisms for months, like daily for months to fight these spirits out, I think, in the hopes that the crowd would help pray the demon away or just to show the power of Catholicism. Right, right, right. Which by the way, I would have started making them private exorcisms when the Catholicism wasn't working

after several months. Oh right, when that even that stopped working, it's like, all right, let's focus on the gift shop and the bar line and let's kind of put a curtain up over here. So during these exorcisms, Bielzbub calls the Protestants his faithful servants and it's- That's such a good dig. It's such a good PR move for the Catholics.

And again, by the way, I'm under the assumption that this is Nicola was never possessed by the devil. Maybe she just had a lot of Catholic guilt, so much Catholic guilt that she was like, I'll make it right by calling all the Protestants. It happens to the best of us. Horrible, horrible Beelzebub believers. So during these exorcisms, demon calls Protestants his faithful servants, and every time he leaves for the day, when Beelzebub checks out of possessing her for the day, he puts Nikola into these swoons when he's not around, so she can't see or speak or talk or anything, and basically she can't give confessions, that way he can always return.

And that's just when he's temporarily leaving, but they find a way to revive her. Nothing else will revive her from these wounds except of course, the Eucharist. And she was apparently possessed because her mom and husband at different times cursed her in a fight. They were like, may the devil take you.

And then the devil's like, okay. Listen, if that's all it took, I'd probably be long gone with the devil by now. You certainly have strayed. So maybe the devil take you. And then the devil's like, okay. Listen, if that's all it took, I'd probably be long gone with the devil by now. You certainly have strayed. So maybe you did take you. But that's true, maybe I am. That's a good point. Beelzebub would also call out audience members

for their sins and embarrass them, which led to many of them. It led to many of them confessing that day or like converting back to Catholicism. It was just a big Catholic party over there. During one of the exorcisms, Beelzebub was even contorting Nicola's body so intensely that he paralyzed her arm. Oh, yeah. The doctors even like tested it. They did horrible things to make sure that she like wouldn't flinch and that she was really in a swoon and unable to move her arm. And it seems that that was real. As news spread of Nicolas possession and Bielsbub saying all these things about Protestants being in cahoots

with the devil. Protestants came into town to witness this and, you know, prove to everybody it was a hoax. But when they got there, Beelzebub called them all out by name and saluted them and mocked them for being demonic themselves just by being Protestants. You made it and also you're just as devilish as I am. I think he actually said they're more devilish than he is. Oh my God. Okay, I just had a discussion yesterday with my brother

about the word devilish on Beach to Sandy, where I said like, isn't that sort of a compliment? Cause you say like devilishly handsome, you know? I would imagine that means like so handsome, it's a crime. Like it's a sin. It makes me lost. So in the Catholic church, you shouldn't be any sort of devilish, devilry,

all of it's bad. Okay, got it. Yeah. I mean, as the pastor here, yes. Yeah, as the Catholic here, you should know. So the Protestants are pissed, so they're coming into town to be like, we're not the devil.

But one time when Nicola was in a swoon in front of these Protestants, they could not wake her up, so they begrudgingly also tried to give her a holy sacrament, which is not what they do. But they were like, we'll try the Catholic way. And she ended up waking up and it healed her. So now the Protestants are like, Oh, this is really awkward. Yeah. So the priests go tell the crowd, tell everyone what you just witnessed. The sacrament works. The Catholics are right. The Protestants suck. And the Protestants are like, Okay,

fuck this town and like, fuck this little girl too, by the way, because she's really making us look bad. Yeah. Um, one Protestant doctor later even met up with her and tried to quote, poison the demon inside of her, which the Catholics have turned into, he tried to poison her to get revenge on all the things that she's been saying. But when it didn't work and only the sacrament healed her, the Protestants that day were like, or at least in the room for this event, they were like, Oh shit, the sacrament really is the only thing that helps her. Maybe she's not faking it. Okay. I guess we're Catholics because the sacrament really does work.

So the story goes that they converted right there on the spot, pretty much Catholic thing ever right there in front of the miracle of Mother Mary coming down from the heavens. In front of God and his people. So nutty. They think that they're not like ritualistic and then they're like, behold. Like it's like- A magical transformation.

They fucking love a ritual, a show, like some razzle dazzle. They fucking love it. Well, so pretty much any Protestant that comes in contact with her, it becomes a Catholic that day because they're just so blown away by the fact that she is saved by the Christ. Other Protestants are demanding that the priest start making these public exorcisms of her private. And when the priest tries it, the Elzebub comes through and says, uh, change it back to public execution.

Executions, oh my God. Okay, every time you've said public exorcism, I start like, seriously, my body reacts before I even realize you're saying exorcism. So I think it's probably not, you're not alone in that. It's certainly an execution of the Protestant's reputation. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Before being dramatic about it, which we are. Yeah, execution and what's the, before being dramatic about it, which we are. Yeah, execution and What's the other word? Exorcism. Exorcism. They're very close.

Well, okay, so the Protestants are like make them private. Make these, probably because they were so embarrassed that they keep getting like Humiliated. The priest tries it, the Beelzebub comes through and says make them public again or I'm never leaving. Ha ha ha. And if you make them public again or I'm never leaving. Ha ha ha. And if you make them public, eventually I'll leave, but I'll never tell you when. So it's a lose-lose situation for the priest. So they go back to public exorcisms.

And maybe as a thank you, it was just timed weirdly that one of the exorcisms right after the priest makes them public again. Nikola still has 30 demons in her, but when the priest commands them public again. Nikola still has 30 demons in her, but when the priest commands them all to leave, after enough times of putting the sacrament to her lips and saying, get out of here demons, 26 of them leave that day. Oooh!

And where we left off in the story last week is that now there are only four demons remaining in Nikola. One of them being Bielzabub. Of course. So that's what you missed on the way. What do we say? Bielzabub? What do we say? Oh Bielzabubby. Bielzabubby's, you were wearing a shirt, little, little latke, what was it? What was it? It was like- Bubby's little matzah Ball. Matzah Ball. Okay, okay, okay. So, Bielza Bubby's Little Matzah Ball, yeah. Yeah, that's me. Well, that's Nicola, I guess.

She should have worn that shirt for sure. Aw. I bet they sold it at the gift shop. If they did, that would... Can we sell it at our gift shop, aka at our live shows? Bielza Bubby's Little Matzah Ball. Our own online store, Bielza Bubby's Little Matzah Ball. I mean, I'm like, I think it's real good, but we'll talk about it.

Could we, if we could, we could sell it at our own gift shop, aka at our live shows, Bielza Bubby's Little Matzah Ball. Yeah, I think we could sell it at our own gift shop, aka at our own gift shop, Bielza Bubby's Little Matzah Ball. Yeah, I think we could sell it at our own gift shop, aka at our own gift shop, Bielza Bubby's Little Matzah Ball. Yeah, I think we could sell it at our own gift shop, aka at our own gift shop, Bielza Bubby's Little Matzah Ball.

Yeah, I think we could sell it at our own gift shop, aka at our own gift shop, Bielza Bubby's Little Matzah Ball. Yeah, I think we could sell it at our own gift shop, aka at our own gift shop, Bielza Bubby's Little Matzah Ball. Yeah, I think we could sell it at our own gift shop, Bielzasa Bubbies little matzah ball. Our own online store, Bielsa Bubbies little matzah ball. I mean, I'm like, I think it's real good, but we'll talk about it. Could we, for the sake, because matzah balls aren't actually involved here, maybe it should say Bielsa Bubbies little Eucharist. Oh, little latke. Little wafer.

A little wafer? Little flesh and blood and skin of Jesus Christ. He also bubs little flesh. Ew, no. You don't like that? No, I don't. Weigh in everybody, help me. Help me get away from that one, please somebody.

Okay, so with four demons left in Nicola, the priest asks where the others went. How did I, first of all, after months of doing this, if I were the priest, I would be like, how do I do that? I'd be like, how the fuck did I actually get that? He'd be like, was that me? Are we sure? Was it a fluke? Yeah. It's like when the superpowers finally kick in in the third act. It's like, like, like in a superhero movie. It's like, oh my God, I can fly. It happened. I feel like the priest is like, Oh my God, I actually cast them out. I couldn't get any of them. And now I got 26. What the fuck happened?

It's like when I broke through Wallace for the first time, broke into Wallace. And I was like, Oh my God, that really worked. I can't believe it. I'm the genius. I don't know how I saw. I did it last night because I couldn't fall asleep. And I don't know if anyone's heard about this. My insomnia. That's all I talk about nowadays. But I was trying to fall asleep and I was like, I'm gonna break through Wallace and it worked.

Or break into Wallace, yeah, it worked. I don't know how I solved such a cosmic problem, but- It's worked for a lot of people who've commented. It seems to really do the job, yeah. I think it's because it's like, it's almost the last thing I remember every time I fall. Like I'm like, I don't even think I realize how effective it is until the next day when I'm like, wait a minute.

Did I get in? I don't remember anything after that. So it must have worked, you know? It's kind of trippy. It really does, it works way too well. So. Yeah. It's just kind of amazing. Thank you. Well, that's me.

That's you. Inside you're like that priest like, did I do that? Really? I really, I'm like, did I solve sleepiness? Yeah, you literally solved like a cosmic mystery. Like how to, and for me it was how to astral project. It wasn't the lucid dream or something, lucid dream. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But some people just use it as melatonin now.

I just use it as melatonin, man. In addition, to be very clear, in addition to my melatonin. It's like an enhancement to my melatonin man in addition to be very clear in addition to my melatonin as like an enhancement to my melatonin well okay so in the third act this priest finally has superpowers and he takes out 26 of the 30 which i would then think okay the next four are gonna be easy breezy yeah or i'd be like i've done enough somebody else do this now i'd clock out something awesome i'd be like i need a vacation the rest are seriously I did like such a mass part of this Not that anyone knows what 26 out of 30 percent is that I'm sure like it's a lot. I mean it's Over 5 6th. I can do fractions. I certainly can't do that either

So I'm just gonna believe you on that 5 5 feels like feels like a lot. I fully think that, yeah, for sure. Okay, so he's like, holy shit, I did that, that's crazy. And then he goes over to Nikola, who still has Beelzebub in her. One of the four still Beelzebub. And the priest is like, he didn't even say, how did I do that? Because I think he like wanted to have the cockiness

of like, oh, Catholicism hurts. Of course, you gotta play along. So you know he was like totally freaking out on the inside, but yeah, yeah. This old thing? And basically he says, where did the others go? That's how he asked it. He was like, where did those 26 go

when I just cast them out? Did I turn them into dust or is this somewhat other priest's problem now somewhere else now? Please God. And Beelzebub says, oh, I told them to go to Geneva. I said it last time. I'm gonna say it again. This sounds like the campiest little drag queen demon I've ever heard in my life. Literally, Beelzebubby, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Attitude. She's got the Cruella de Vil like long cigarette. She's like, I sent them to Geneva, darling. I sent

them to Geneva. Yes, yes. What did I say, Geneva? Yes, sure, Geneva. Let's go with that. Just like, couldn't care less. Well, fun fact, Geneva apparently was a hub for Protestants at that time. So, leave it to... Hilarious.

Yeah, so just more PR, more PR. Oh, they're good. The priest goes, how can I believe that they're actually gone? How do I know they're not just going to show up tomorrow? And Beelzebub, this is where I think maybe he had too much boxed wine and he is starting to not make a lot of sense. Everything else so far has made total sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He says, oh, we'll go, I'm good. I've just checked the pine tree, darling. He has to, darling. Check the pine tree. Check the pine tree because now there's two branches missing and that's

the devils carried them away when they flew out. That's his racing. There's two branches missing off a pine tree. It feels like a fucking escape room. No it does and like not a good one. It's like what does that even mean? It doesn't prove anything so like maybe like on her way into the exorcism that day Nikola saw that there was like a broken tree outside. Two branches fell off the tree. And she remembered that shit. Yeah. But so also she had to know that the branches were gone because if they fell on the ground, it's like- Yeah, but you know, my stepdad is one of those people where he's like, it's disgusting and

criminal how observant he is. Oh, so he can like clock it. He would notice that a branch on a random ass tree is missing. I think that is a stepdad thing because my stepdad too is like, oh, one of your branches, like one of your shingles. And I'm like, fuck, how do you notice that a branch on a random ass tree is missing. I think that is a stepdad thing. Because my stepdad too is like, oh, one of your branch, like one of your shingles. And I'm like, yeah, fuck, how do you notice that? Like, yeah. Maybe Nikola was actually possessed by a stepdad. You know what I mean?

I mean, be else Bobby. It's, anything's possible. But yeah, so she's like, oh, well, there's obviously, there's two branches on that tree over there and they're missing. And so that's how you know that the demons are gone. And I'd be like, girl, we need to check you in somewhere. This is crazy. What on earth are you talking about?

The priest then says, okay, can you also go now? Like I, you're making me look bad. I only got 26 of you, so can you keep it moving? Yep. And Beelzebub says, this is apparently a quote. I can't wait. This is a direct quote. A direct quote? Wow.

It's not in the Bible of something the demons have said, but apparently this is a direct quote. Even if you remain here till midnight, even if you stay here a hundred years, I will not leave at your bidding. I will not leave unless commanded by the Bishop of Lens. Okay, I love the escalation from midnight to a hundred years. It was like, you can stay till midnight. And the guy was like, okay. And it's like, I mean a hundred in midnight.

It's like in Austin Powers, when he's like one million dollars. And they're like, okay. And he's like, I meant, you know. Trying to build it up. So, so now they're like, okay, and he's like I meant So So now they're like, oh shit. So now he's saying he won't leave until the bishop of long specifically not a bishop anywhere I was just this fucking bitch. Um Casts him out. That's like apparently his prophecy of the bishop will cast him out. Okay, so okay, so they're now they go

They're in long and along the way One of the four demons, I guess the weakest of them all, his name was like Legio, apparently he's cast out in the same way the others were, where the priest just keeps putting the sacrament to Nicholas' lips. He was just like holding on by a thread, and then he...

I guess so. Maybe he was supposed to be the 27th, and he overslept, and he was like, I have to leave anyway. It seems like a fluke, the way you're describing it, yeah. Maybe he was supposed to be the 27th and he overslept and he was like, I have to leave anyway. So. It seems like a fluke the way you're describing it. Yeah. Or maybe he like, I imagine if there's only four people possessing a body,

those demons get to know each other really well in there. And he was probably like, this Beelzebub is kind of an asshole. I'm ready to leave. I'm just, I'm good. Yeah, I get it. That's hard, especially when like suddenly it's just you four and it's like, ooh.

It's really claustrophobic probably to just, you don't ever get alone time. They need to solo travel to demons. You need to go find a train car to live in for a few days. And that's why Legio said, I were actually passing a train car. I'm going to hunker down over there. So bye. And bye. And left. So he was the least of the problems. Now there's only three. Look a branch. I love branches. Well, there's only three left now.

There's Beelzebub, then there's Cerberus and Astaroth. Okay. Harry Potter and fairy books, it feels. So Nicola was brought to law. They hold exorcisms at the Cathedral Notre Dame de Longue. And during these public events, Nicola, slash Beelzebub, continued to mock the Protestants to the crowd and continue to call out people's sins and saying like, why are you here and claiming you're not a sinner when I know you did this, this and this last night?

And then they would all run away and confess so that way the demon didn't know that about them or they just became Catholic altogether. I have fantastic news for you. What? Okay, first of all, Astaroth, he's considered a great Duke of Hell. Okay, me too. Often depicted as, you too,

a nude man with feathered wings, wearing a crown and holding a serpent and riding a beast with dragon-like wings and a serpent-like tail. It's like Leona just came up with that. You know what I mean? And they're like, it's a naked man. Oh, but he also has this cool dragon.

And it's like, wait a minute, what about the naked part? Is he not wearing a shirt? It's just like you just said about the Dr. Evil part in Austin Powers. It's like, oh, you're not freaked out yet. Okay, well, he also is holding a snake. In fact, I was freaked out when you said he was a nude man, but like, I guess.

You had me a man. Why is a man here? Right, right, right. Nude or otherwise. I'm sending you a drawing of what apparently he looks like from Wikipedia, and it's just he. Why do you need to send me a picture? I can perfectly picture a naked feathered man

with a snake. Fair, fair. But apparently there's also a virus called Asteroth Malware that somebody made to steal passwords and shit, which I love that they're naming them after literal demons. That's hilarious. Yeah, the Trojan horse wasn't enough. Yeah, exactly. This...

You know what's weird? So he and his little buddy he's flying on, they're both skeletally off. Yeah, I feel like back then they didn't understand about proportions. This guy, do you ever see Big Ed with the neck thing? No. Look up Big Ed, just Google that.

Is that a horse? Oh, of course I know Big Ed from 90 Day Fiance. What a character. This guy also has no neck. You know what? Yeah, but he's also nude and has long toenails, which... I didn't even notice the toenails! It's distressing in the least. It's distressing in the least. He... He looks like an asshole, so I guess they drew it pretty accurately.

He does. I think that actually probably is exactly what he fucking looks like an asshole, so I guess they drew it pretty accurately. He does. I think that actually probably is exactly what he fucking looks like. So anyway, just so we have like some visual understanding. Harf. Okay, well thank you. I needed that for sure. I know it was worth it. Well, so he's in there.

Did you look up Cerberus? No, I just think of that fucking dog. Me too. Okay. Maybe it is. Maybe that's who fucking dog. Me too. Okay. Maybe it is, maybe that's who it is. Oh, it is, the Hound of Hades, yeah. How did they all have like a gangster name? How are they all the Duke of Hell?

The Duke of Hell. The Hound of Hades. The Hound of Hades, you're right. It feels very Zach Bagans, doesn't it? Like, to come up with like your own devilish nickname. I can tell you with confidence even 500 years ago No woman named him the Duke of Hell He got burned by somebody and he went this is my new This is who I am. Yeah, you who me you mean the devil's lackey. I don't know

I'm trying to come up with some other words. Yeah would you be? I would be the... I would be... Hades handmaiden. Oh, that's beautiful. Except not really, because I don't want to be Hades handmaiden. I don't know. I would work on it. I would do something for sure with... What do you call it? Alliteration. Yes, thank you, alliteration.

Well, because we're not idiots. Well, because I'm not a fucking idiot. Thank you. If there's gonna be one thing in my name, it's gonna be alliteration. Yes, thank you, alliteration. Well, because we're not idiots. Well, because I'm not a fucking idiot, thank you. If there's going to be one thing in my name, it's going to be alliteration. If I get one choice as a woman in the fucking 1600s, it's a cool ass nickname. The demon... No, I can't do it. The demon... No.

Dame? It'll come to us. The daemon? No, that's stupid. Cut that out. Listen, it's brainstorming. Why don't we say something really smart later and then we'll have Jack put it right here and then you'll be like, oh, that old thing? Yeah. Okay, great. Okay, so now the bishop is here, right? Because only he can cast out these remaining three.

The bishop goes up to him and says, hey buddy, you wanna tell me who all is in there? I imagine just like knocking on Nicholas' forehead. Anybody in there? Look like whispering into the ear, hello. Hello. You called? Beelzebub of course says, oh yeah, there's three of us here.

It's Beelzebub, Cerberus, and Astaroth. That freak with the toenails left a while ago. And bishop asks Cerberus and Astaroth to step forward. He's like, Beelzebub's been a real chatty little bitch lately. So Cerberus and Astaroth, please step forward. And then Beelzebub shows up again and says, this is a direct quote apparently. They shall not, you may talk till you crack your throat.

They will not speak in my presence. They are my servants. I am their master. They shall not speak. I am here for that. Whoa, okay. Setting some strict rules here, bud. I like that the bishop or that Beelzebub really has a possessive thing going on with the owl. He's literally possessing a girl.

But I, you would think- Literally, on every level. You would think him and the demons would be like, kind of buddies, but whatever. Yeah, well, apparently not. Cause apparently there's such a hierarchy, you know? I know. So the next day, that was one day, he says,

oh no, you're only gonna speak to me, thanks so much. So the next day the church was ordered to open at 5am. So that way people could come and start praying for Nicolai before the exorcisms. But the church never opened at 5am because the clock tower stopped by itself or broke. That's creepy. And the devil later said that he had a part in that, but who knows?

He maybe Nicolai just noticed the clock tower was broken it said that was me so Beelzebub says uh oh by the way just so you know Astaroth will be leaving tomorrow and the bishop goes okay thanks for letting me know feels like something a demon wouldn't do when you just like travel plans tomorrow it feels like why would you share that with me a demon wouldn't do when you just like- He has travel plans tomorrow. It feels like, why would you share that with me? Yeah, wouldn't you want to keep me on my toes? But okay, thanks for the mercy, I suppose. How will we know what's happened? Thanks for the heads up.

How will we know? Because the last time was so stupid with two broken branches. And now- For 26 of them. Yeah, yeah. And also, hang on, let me do the math there. So does one branch equal 13 if two branches took 26? 13, no. Oh, I'm so smart.

I told you I'm the math person here. You are, I can't believe it. I just hear the word and I go, that's 13 is a devil number, right? See, when you take my math and you're Catholic yelp, we know- Oh my God, we're unstoppable! We're so good.

We're so good. So the bishop, at least if I were the bishop, I would have been like, some fucking stupid thing with branches happened last time. So how am I to know this time when- You're gonna pick a daisy on your way out? Like what the fuck? You're gonna blow me a kiss?

Yeah, what's gonna happen? Apparently he said, Astaroth will break away a pane of glass from the chapel. Okay. Oh, okay, that's a big promise. I feel like if you're a devil, like wouldn't it be like the entire town will be engulfed in flames?

Like wouldn't it be something a little more dramatic? Yeah, but I feel like this maybe they can like accomplish, you know? Yeah, breaking a window, yeah, for sure. Like she can break a window. But yes, you're right, like I feel like this maybe they can accomplish, you know? Yeah, breaking a window, yeah, for sure. Like she can break a window. But yes, you're right. Like I feel like, but also I feel like setting a fire you could do, you know?

I would also be nervous if I were Nikola faking all of this and now I'm committing to plans because now I'm saying like, oh tomorrow a window will break and that's how you'll. So now, but I guess maybe if she didn't get to a broken window in time, she could be like, I tricked you, ha ha, it's not gonna happen. Why would you believe the devil?

Yeah, fair point. Well, so the bishop compels them all to leave, try and leave one last time, just try and leave and all of a sudden the demons start freaking out when he puts the sacrament to her mouth. She starts contorting, her face gets all distorted, her eyes bulge out again. There's apparently three distinct voices coming out of her, like all three of the demons are talking at once. Apparently each of them sounded like a different animal.

One sounded like an ox, one sounded like a swine, a pig, and one sounded like a dog. I'm assuming that one's Cerberus. Oh yeah true. And so the entire crowd is hearing multiple animal noises. She's freaking out and when the bishop one more time holds the sacrament's Nicola and everyone hears her do this big yell and all of a sudden she falls into a swoon and black smoke comes out of her mouth. No. And with that black smoke leaving her body, Astaroth was cast out. And at the same time, everyone claims that they heard at the nearby chapel,

a window pane break. Now this is good storytelling. You know, with 500 years in the game of telephone on your side, anyone could have heard anything. You're so right. That's, you're so right. That's you're so right. Someday we'll be so famous for being so smart because it'll just be like, oh, 500 years have passed.

They forgot like the nuances of it. And we've just created this kind of lore about ourselves. And then over time, it'll just kind of that's what I'm telling myself anyway. I certainly have manifested that our ancestors will listen to this one day and be like, oh, my God, those are my great grandparents they were kind of like geniuses. Our descendants. Yeah. My ancestors are listening to this and going oh no this is not what I hoped for my family line. You gotta wait a few generations before they're really proud you know. I think you're right. Until we're like a bar story like did you know? Yeah and it's like us telling it in 20 years and people are like, please stop.

Yeah, that's so sad. It is. It's a little bit sad. So again, Nicola goes into one of these spoons. She's restored by the sacrament and now she only has two living inside of her. She has Cerberus and she has Beelzebub. So more extra systems continue and eventually during one of them Beelzebub says, oh, PS know I warned you last time I'm going to warn you again Cerberus is going to leave tomorrow. I don't know why he's like putting this on the calendar but it's nice of him to do that. So at the next day's exorcism the bishop and Bielzbub are just chatting because they have a daily exorcism so this is like a water cooler situation for them.

Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Had you sleep last night? Yeah. Had the continental breakfast. And Bielzma brings up that doctor who tried to poison him slash Nicola. Aha, yes. The Protestant, the dirty Protestant. And he says, oh, don't worry, I got my revenge on that guy

because he was actually riding the other day and I spooked his horse and I made the horse buck him and then kick him in the ribs. Which the actual story, if I remember the quote right, it's like he was actually, he shrunk himself down to fit into the ear of the horse, made himself feel like a bug so the horse started bucking like it out of his ear.

So he like basically magic school bus, the fucking horse. Okay, I see. Or like what's that other movie? It's basically like every kid's movie. No wonder she's coming up with all this shit. It's like the end of luck of the Irish when the bad demon shrinks down out of the clothes. I've certainly never seen that,

but I assume it's exactly like that. Trust me. Remember the one where he goes in to fight germs? Osmosis Jones? Yeah. Yes, it's just like that. Although it's more, I guess it's more like the, I think the Magic School Bus reference hit harder, so let's just stick with that one. I think that one, you killed it with that one, yeah.

Thank you. So Beelzebub misfrizzled himself into a horse's ear. Did you see that TikTok where it's like the girls pretending like, like they're talking about the trauma of the being on the magic school bus. And like, and then I showed up and oh my God, it was very good. Well, so he says, oh, don't worry, I showed that guy and he, you know, he tried to poison me, but I spooked him. And then, and then not only did I miss Frizzle into the horse's ear, I also forced the horse to ride,

to carry him around the gallows. He had to ride around the gallows multiple times and he couldn't get off the horse. It was like he possessed the horse, I guess. Oh, okay. So people in town later confirmed that they actually did see the doctor talking to someone who wasn't there.

And they did see him riding around the gallows. But then here's what I have to say. If that's what the townspeople are saying, that they see him riding around the gallows. But then here's what I have to say. If that's what the townspeople are saying, that they saw him riding around the gallows, so did Nicola. So she could just be like, oh, I made him do that. Right, or even she heard people talking about it. You know what I mean?

Yeah. So like at the very least, even if she didn't technically see it, which she probably did. She knew. She must have heard it. Yeah. I mean, she's literally on a stage and in the audience is every person.

She's probably just sitting there listening to small talk in between. And pretending to be asleep. I'm the best at that game. Yeah. I'm not listening, but actually listen. Pretend you're asleep and listen to all of the town people's problems. My favorite thing to do. So anyway, he says, oh, I hurt the doctor and I got him back.

And then he says, I also appeared before him, by the way, and I told him I was a Protestant, and then I told him to kill Nicolon, that's why he tried to do it, because he was on the side of the Protestants. Okay. And just trying to like really damage that guy's reputation. Yeah.

The bishop told Beelzebub to stop saying things like that, or else he was going to hit him. Uh-oh. This bishop has an anger problem, it seems. He very quickly. Hit him, what, like hit her? I mean, Jesus. Yeah, you're gonna hit a little 15 year old girl,

first of all. Although if there is a true 15 year old girl possessed in the room with me, I'd hit her in the fucking face, for sure. If there was. Oh, well if she comes at me, yeah, for sure. If she really, if I found myself in that situation where she was truly demonic, actually I wouldn't even hit her

because I wouldn't still be there. So- Well, I mean, I was going to say, I don't think you'd be in a scenario where you'd be close enough to hit her. You know what I mean? Yeah. But this bishop is like, stop saying mean things about the townspeople or I'm going to hit you.

And he just got here. Like the bishop just got requested. And now all of a sudden he's like, like that makes you really appreciate the patience of the bishop just got requested, and now all of a sudden he's like, that makes you really appreciate the patience of the last priest. Yep, agreed. This guy seems erratic, you know? Yeah, he gave up real quick on the actual proceedings.

He says he's gonna hit him, and then Beelzebub slash Nicola gets up in the bishop's face, basically points at his own cheek and dares the bishop to hit him. And then the bishop instead makes a cross on his on the forehead of Nicola instead of hitting him. Okay, okay. He's having her. Yeah. Oh, okay, okay, okay. And by putting the cross on Nicola's forehead, Nicola begins to convulse. She then flies into the air and slams back onto the ground and her face starts

distorting. The Bishop holds the sacrament to her face. And all of a sudden, like last time, a weird voice comes out of her and then black smoke comes out of her mouth and Cerberus has now been expelled as predicted by Beelzebub. Predicted by Nicola who's also probably getting tired of this shtick. Yeah, yeah. And so now we're down to just Beelzebub. Okay.

So this is the final act. Beelzebub. Final act. So Beelzebub tells the bishop and the crowd, hey girl, I'm going to leave tonight. I'm also tired of this bullshit. And Beelzebub temporarily flees away after that, but he says like, I'll be back later.

I'll be right back. I'm hungry. I ate a weird burrito for breakfast. I got to go to the bathroom. Well, in that in between, the bishop has dinner and then he goes back to perform the nighttime exorcism. And Beelzebub says, ha ha, I tricked you. I'm actually not leaving today.

And I was actually going to, but because you ate and didn't fast, then you can't give a proper Catholic exorcism. It's like, this is literally what Catholic school is like. It's like, you can't win. Also, you're so confused. Also, they keep telling you to like eat things or not eat things God, it's like, this is literally what Catholic school is like. It's like, you can't win. Also, you're so confused. Also, they keep telling you to eat things or not eat things. And it's like, can everybody just leave me alone?

I'm eight. Come on. Don't eat that, but eat this skin over here. That's really good. Yeah, right. Exactly. Just drink the blood real quick. It's not a big deal.

I know you're eight. It's normal. So when the bishop pushes back, Bielzebub says the bishop didn't, not only are you, you didn't fast, but you also haven't properly confessed your sins, but also this, but also that, and also you don't have the right kind of witnesses for the final exorcism.

Like every single time they try an exorcism, he goes, well, one more thing, one more thing. So they can never catch him. He's so fucking annoying. I'm so tired of this story, Christine. So the bishop then says, maybe not today today but eventually I am gonna cast you up by the power of God and I guess in a moment of weakness Beelzebub slips up and says I must yield to you I know full well that I must depart but not tonight so he's

saying like it's not up to me but it is is going to happen. Oh, I see. Okay. So there's a lot of back and forth. There's a lot of Balesbub finding loopholes. I will not bore anyone further with that. And eventually one day yet during yet another exorcism, Nikola starts levitating into the air and starts slamming onto the ground. And it had never been this intense before. Like she's like slamming onto the ground. Uh oh.

15 different men are trying to hold onto her and they can't keep her down. This was... That's what I said. Didn't I say that? Did you say in theaters or how did you... It sounded the same what I said. Did I say that? Did you say in theaters or how did you? It sounded the same. I said it everywhere.

You have some green all over you. So this had never happened before. This was like a whole new level of power that Beelzebub was using, probably just to scare everybody or because it's like his last hurrah. And the bishop is like, absolutely not. Takes the sacrament, raises it with his chalice,

holds, like toasting him, like see ya. Oh, I see. And Nicola again is whisked into the air, and Beelzebub temporarily flees after this. Nicola is revived by the sacrament, but during the next exorcism, everyone's officially fucking over this, me included. And the bishop goes, really?

I'm having to time-fun like- The bishop asks Beelzebub, get the fuck out, asks, tells him, get out, I'm so tired, I don't want to do this anymore. You win, I don't want to play this game anymore. And so he says, when are you going to finally be cast out? Because you said tomorrow, like 50 fucking times. So when is it gonna happen? And Beelzebub goes, soon, but not yet. And then the bishop is like, bro, fucking tell me.

So Beelzebub says, okay, 3 p.m. on Friday. You must know. So he also likes no January. So he literally says 3 p.m. on Friday, great. The bishop says, how will we know you left? And Beelzebub says, well, I'll have cured Nicola's arm. She won't be paralyzed on her arm anymore. Gasp.

And the bishop says, well, okay, when you're, are you still around all the time or are you going other places in between possessing her? And Beelzebub says, actually, I was at your place last night and I saw you praying at 3 a.m. Huh? And then he said, your prayers are starting to work. Okay. Which like, are you mocking me or?

Beelzebub would never say that. That's ridiculous. Well, this sets off an already mad bishop because I feel like, I feel like it could be scary of like, oh, it's starting to work and affect me and like the power of Christ compels me. But it could also just be him saying, haha, I'm kidding. They're never gonna fucking work. Right. Yeah, it's totally working. Keep trying. Yeah. Good point. Good point. So this hot headed bishop, as we know, he was already pissed. So he puts the sacrament to Nicola's face to prevent Beelzebub from hurting her any further

during this event. And I guess because he knows he's about to go off on Beelzebub and he's like, I'm gonna put a sacrament to her now to like almost like block off whatever you try to do in retaliation. But here's what I have to say to you Beelzebub. And then literally tells him,

you so offend God that you can never even hope for forgiveness. You don't deserve love or hope, only eternal damnation. I love that the meanest thing the bishop can say is nobody likes you. Yeah, which honestly is pretty mean, but also, yeah, isn't that the point? So during this, Beelzebub mocks the bishop. He blows out his ritual candles. He has to keep relighting them, which is so annoying. I like it when you do a lighter, like as if they had big lighters back then. Like, when they're rubbing sticks together. Okay, now I'm just getting at some.

Like, that would be a pain in the ass. Actually, that does make it so much more annoying if you don't have fire at your fingertips. Like, what the hell are they doing? I assume you have oil lamps and shit, but I don't know. Well, but in that case, just blow out the oil, whatever. Whatever. Whatever.

So he's mocking the bishop, he's blowing out the whatever whatever um so he's mocking the bishop he's blowing out the candles the bishop holds the sacrament near him and and the bishop says what have you gained from this like why are you doing this Beelzebub says many have been converted by witnessing the great power of the sacrament oh god okay I thought you convert it to like Satanism. No, like, oh. No, but that goes to prove apparently that he is, even though he is a powerful demon, he is still compelled by Christ to be used to bring people to Catholicism. Right, yeah, it proves that. The bishop then says, why did you possess such a virtuous Catholic woman?

And Beelzebub says, by permission of God to show Protestants that devils can possess you whenever God permits. I have taken possession of Nicola to convert them and to harden them in their sins. And by the sacred blood, I shall perform my task. By the power of God and the sacred body and blood of Jesus, I confess that Jesus Christ is here and truly present. He is my Lord and master. It tortures me to confess it, but I must."

Oh, come on. Likely story. And then Beelzebub says that the sacrament only causes him pain so much and it's the only thing that works so well because it is the true body and blood of Christ. I mean, like it's just so on the nose at this point. It's not even height. They're not even hiding it. That this is just-

It's almost like you get to the end of a movie and you're like, really? That's how they're gonna wrap it up? Like, I thought it was gonna be- Yes, we get it. You hate Protestants. Right, like I thought it was gonna be some elevated thing. And then it's like, no.

Well, here's an uptick for you. Beelzebub then says, I shall go, but I shall not go empty-handed. "'I shall take along with me the head of the bailiff.'" Ah! And the bailiff was the guy that, for a while she was staying in a cell. Yeah, the jail, yeah, yeah, yeah.

First of all, leave that guy alone, okay. Well, apparently at one point he said something like he was a skeptic, and he was like, "'If this is all real, then the devil can have my head.'" Oh, gosh, okay, nevermind. he did kind of say something probably not good. But he also like that is giving the same energy as like my mom said may the devil take you so exactly like how easy is this door to open and really it doesn't feel right yeah. Well apparently that was it for the bishop because now all of a sudden we're threatening the bailiff's head and maybe they

were friends or something so the bishop was like fuck that and then says this is a quote you wicked unclean spirit you arch enemy of God the people in the hotel room next to me must think I'm so fucking crazy they're like is our neighbor watching what is that televangelist like Billy Graham old Billy Graham tapes? I feel like the cleaning lady probably just like walked right past my door. Oh, just was like, skip. You wicked, unclean spirit, you arch enemy of God, behold the precious body and blood of our Lord,

Jesus Christ, thy Lord and master, I command you to depart instantly and forever from this creature of God, depart to the deepest depths of hell and be tormented forever." And when he said this, he put the sacrament to her lips and Nicholas starts writhing and her limbs crack and 15 men can barely hold her. And then her tongue hangs out, her face is swollen, she changes colors from yellow to green to gray to blue. And apparently she, this is a quote from the book I read, she no longer looked like a person but a hideous incarnate demon. And her screams of pain sounded like a bull. So now we know which animal he was. Yeah. And for a moment, the Elzebub seems to have fully been cast out of Nicola.

Oh, and she still seems like distorted and she's rolled up into a ball. So the bishop says, Okay, one last time, I'm going to put the sacrament to you and officially heal you. But then Christine. What? Suddenly the demon returns, tries to grab the sacrament from the Bishop's hand. There is a tug of war between the Bishop and an invisible hand.

Is this the fucking performance of his life? And mine, fuck you. And you have so many, this is just his one chance in his measly little 16th century life to be just like. His eternal life, yeah. Yeah, he just like wants to put on a performance. Oh, the bishop, yes, yes.

Yes, I'm just happy for him for that. Like he gets to do the miming of like, no. Yeah. I wonder if like backstage, him and Nikola finally came to an agreement of like, okay, I'm in the show, right? Like I get to like, please let me just add a little pizzazz so he's having this tug-of-war by himself with this stupid fucking wafer invisible demon, yep, and

Nikola levitates again, but the bishop holds the sacrament one once more in his hand and the crowd He tells the crowd to call upon God, of course here we go and with the power of prayer, they hear a crash of thunder. And one source mentions here that this crack of thunder and the power of prayer coming from the mob, the mob, it becomes a mob, by the way, he's having this tug of war on stage. Meanwhile, in the crowds, everyone is so overwhelmed with the power of prayer and the Protestants and the Catholics are now mad at each other

because they're praying differently. And so now there's a fight in the streets and it's this battle. Oh no. A literal fight, an army of God, if you will. Oh God. And yet the Bishop still held the sacrament and told the crowd that the true body of Jesus Christ

will help us and with that, Beelzebub finally was overcome by the power of the sacred body and was truly cast out. And it happened on a Friday at 3 p.m. which not only is what Beelzebub predicted but it's also the same time that apparently Jesus died on the cross. Oh yeah yeah 3 p.m. And Nicola woke up on her own, her arm after three months of being paralyzed was completely healed. And not to mention, of course, on this day, many Protestants repented and turned to Catholicism, the true ways of Jesus Christ. And this story became known as the miracle of law and helped reinforce so many anti-Protestant rhetorics in Catholic spaces, especially in France and it actually also led to

Copycat cases in France where people were claiming possession had multiple public exorcisms said that it was Protestants faults and For such a big story my favorite part at the end of this is that nobody has no idea what happened to Nicola Aubrey after this Wait what they just don't care anymore. They're like, she's now just a girl, we don't care. Nobody wanted a fucking update, I guess. Oh, come on. Which makes me think she was never real. Or she ran away and hid forever because after the fame, you know, it's time to take a step

back. Wow, the spotlight must have been just so bright. I'm never telling that story again in my life, Christine. The end. I... What if I'm like, tell me, what if I'm on my deathbed again in my life, Christine. The end. What if I'm like, tell me, what if I'm on my deathbed? I'm like, tell me the tale. I go, okay, you can play episodes one through three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hi, I'm gonna go get lunch.

That's, wow. I have to tell you, I have wondered in the past, I'm like, why don't I do more three-parters? This is why. This is why. After three weeks, I don't wanna talk about it anymore. And I felt bad past, I'm like, why don't I do more three-parters? This is why. This is why. After three weeks, I don't wanna talk about it anymore. And I felt bad. I was kinda like, I was like, Em, I have an idea.

Like the thing I'm covering, like you don't even have to worry, like skip your notes, don't worry. And Em was like, I can't skip my notes cause I have a three-parter. Especially after the hate you got for skipping your two-parter. I know. And to be fair, most people were very kind and like, it's not a big deal.

But there were just a few people being like, this is unprofessional. And everyone was like, they're not gonna last very long. Well, I certainly wanted it to be over, especially, not only did I not wanna talk about something for three weeks, but Catholicism, babe, really? No thank you. Yeah, I mean, same.

What do you, how do you think I fucking feel over here? What a time. Well, I'll tell you, thank you everyone who stuck through that or just fast forwarded through my part. Now you're at Christine's part. And I have to tell you, you're about to have, I think, the best episode of your life.

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plot of her own husband. We take you now to the hotel room of Ghost Adventures mega fan Christine Schieffer. Christine, what can you tell us? Thanks, Christine. Shut the fuck up. Are you doing your own interview with yourself? You're such an insane person. Thanks, Christine. Here's what we know so far. I'm here with Em Schultz, mega fan of Ghost Adventures. Em, could you give us a little background? Tell us who Erin Goodwin is. This was a decision you made at two in the morning, for sure. I did write a thing and I said, but ask Em also.

Okay, hold on. Sorry, ask me. I'm sorry. I actually write a thing and I said but ask Em also. Okay hold on sorry ask me I'm sorry I actually didn't hear what you said because I'm still so fucking blown away at the how insane you are okay. Thanks Christine I'm here on the ground where the story is developing I'm here with mega mega fan Em Schultz. Em can you tell us what you know about Aaron Goodwin? fan, M. Schultz. M, can you tell us what you know about Aaron Goodwin? Why am I so nervous? He's 48 years old. Okay, I know that he is... I wrote some facts. He's the co-host of the hard-hitting docu-series from Zachary Alexander Bagans. Ghost Adventures, where he is often the punching bag to Zach Baggins.

He is the comedy fodder where he gets thrown into a situation. He's just like bullied all day. He's constantly bullied. And what I will say, because I, in case anyone's wondering, obviously we're talking about the situation of the week, but I know nothing. So when I tell you all I know about him is that he's the co-host of Ghost Adventures, but I know nothing. So when I tell you all I know about him

is that he's the cohost of Ghost Adventures, I really mean it. I did not look this up so you could tell me everything. Oh, I'm so delighted. Okay, let me tell you, let me tell you. So let's get into it, folks. I'm not gonna read the whole fucking story like that, I promise.

I did write it in my capital letter teleprompter style that I used to write in journalism school. You literally can't, People would die for that. I didn't write the rest in... Maybe I should have asked like Chad GBD to rewrite it in teleprompter font, but I just did not have the time because there's so much. OK, listen, I'm going to get through this. It's not super long, but it's crazy.

You guys, I don't know if you've heard this. There's been breaking news on the Ghost Adventures front. I'm not even kidding. It's not season number 78 or something coming out. It's it's If you watch if you listen to the show, you know what this news break is. I hope so essentially Erin Goodwin People keep saying the star of Ghost Adventures I'm like he is not these he's a star not the star of Ghost Adventures. Like'm like, he is not these. He's a star, not the star of Ghost Adventures. Like, I want to be clear. That's Zach's. Is Co-Star fair? Co-Star is probably fair. Well,

you ask Zach. Zach probably would have very strict, like, assistant to the regional manager vibes, you know? You know what I mean? I don't think that he's even a Co-Star. He's like a co-to-the-star? I don't know. But either way, so Aaron, he's this like, doofy guy. He's always getting mocked on the show. He's kind of like, the joke is like, oh, Aaron, go in this dark basement. And then he like slams the door. It's kind of like what we did to Eva a little bit on our ghost hunts.

Like leave her in a basement with a recording device. Like it's sort of the same vibe, but they're good friends. They're like really old friends they met decades ago. And so Aaron, he and Victoria, his wife, got together in 2018. They got engaged in 2019, and they got married in August, 2022 at Disneyland's Haunted Mansion.

Oh, that's fun. Very beautiful wedding, very Disney, not totally my style, but like they looked gorgeous. She had this big princess dress, you know, the whole nine yards. I feel like she's a Disney adult and like their compromise for a wedding. I found it on Reddit. Okay, great. Well, I mean, the whole nine yards. I feel like she's a Disney adult and like their compromise for a wedding. I found it on Reddit.

Okay, great. Well, I mean, that makes total sense because if they were like, how do we combine our interests since like Disney and DOS? I mean, it's, I was like, what a, like A plus on the planning there. And so to outsiders and insiders because Aaron himself didn't realize

their relationship seemed really strong. Like there didn't seem to be any issues. They, in fact, they often posted about each other. Victoria posts about their adventures. Erin was always talking about how much he loved her. On Valentine's Day this year, he posted, they both posted about each other and he said, "'My Valentine always beats me at mini golf

So they're just like doing this whole romantic thing. Yeah, so he has he's I mean, obviously He did not know what was going on in the way in the scenes Yeah, but also like do we have mr. Porter? I'm now the one in the audience and you're on the podium and I'm I'm absolutely my shot conference. Yeah All right, I'll say and and that's where you drink, go ahead. Oh, I forgot my question. Oh. Oh my God, security.

Did we hear anything from anyone that knew them to say like, yeah, we thought the relationship was kind of fucking crazy, no? No, I mean, maybe that'll come out, but at least and I will say, like, I don't think anyone from her side is speaking right now. But as far as we know from like the folks in his immediate circle, everyone thought they were completely blindsided. The word they use was blindsided.

OK, so here's what happened timeline wise. And I also use a ton of sources for this to just find every detail I could. So I will include that in the show notes, but I'm not gonna mention where every fact came from. But on March 6th, 2025, so what is today? The 18th, so two weeks ago, a prox. March 6th, 2025, Aaron was shooting a lockdown investigation with Ghost Adventures

when he received a call from the police to inform him that his wife, Victoria, had been arrested in connection with solicitation to commit murder and conspiracy to commit murder of him. Okay, so I can't wait for that tape to come out eventually. The phone call? Because I feel like at first they must have said like, Oh, yeah, she was arrested for so- Yeah, you'd be like, for what? What happened? Yeah.

And he'd be like, that's not her. You got it. You got the wrong girl like that when it would happen. And then they have to break it to him. Like he, she was trying to get you, dude, you know god okay get ready for this you're gonna love this quote the moment took this is from Daily Mail the moment took place on camera but reportedly will not be shown on the next season of the show which currently airs on the Discovery Channel Goodwin's co-star Zach Baggins has creative control when it comes to the series no shit insiders told outlet, and has plans to speak to the network

before a decision is officially made on whether to include the call during a future episode. I love that he has creative control and Aaron has no control of his own fucking life. And then Zach's like, I'll talk to the producers. Talk to Aaron? But it would go so hand in hand

with all the shit that he's done to this poor guy. Okay, so I was actually, I didn't, I was actively trying not to interrupt because what I wanted to say earlier was like- Oh, please do. This is a open panel now, open panel discussion. You know that when they got a call and it was from the police, you know-

Cameras on, rolling. Before, like that we ever got any information, as soon as they thought the police was calling Aaron, I can already hear what he was planning to say in the future ADR. Completely. Is this connected to the evil darkness of this house that the police.

Of Bobby Mackie's, which apparently caused Aaron's first divorce. Yes, exactly. The way that he was already writing lines of how he was going to say it over that B-roll, for sure. It's a plot point. And to an extent, I get it, but not to the fucking attempted murder of your co-hosts

by their own spouse. Like that gets a little too far for me. I mean, how do you even... Okay, so here's another question that obviously is- Well, you were like, oh man, I wish I could see that clip and I'm like you fucking might we all that exists I mean, of course it would be caught on camera like something like this But I mean which might get used like in court or something. I don't maybe It's all in like green and black and night vision. Oh my god. It's an infrared camera

You see Zach going what is it? what is it? Put it on speaker, Aaron. Put it on speaker, bro, bro, bro. Bro, we're trying to film here, turn off the phone. But my next question is like, first of all, where were they investigating? Second of all, what? We don't know because it's under wraps where they were, but I will tell you where they were investigating when, I will tell you more details about the actual attempted hit

I I do know is that they were on lockdown also when he received the call. Okay my next question is like Because we've done enough of these were like if you you have to pay a certain amount to get in and all the stuff Right. I'm like do you keep ghost running after? Now that you've already paid the down payment? Or did they cancel it? Because Zach would make him, right?

Zach took our hotel room the night before with like 10 grand, 15 grand or whatever. Like to him, I'm like, I don't think he even cares. Like I feel like he has the money to just be like, whatever. Do you think, do you think Zach made him keep ghosting or do you think they shut it down for the day? Oh, I'm assuming they shut it down because I think he had to go into like some sort of. Certainly Aaron wasn't in the right head space. No, certainly not. I assume he, you know, anyway,

but what I believe they were in Barstow, California, at least that is when the plot was sort of starting to get going. So, who knows whether the hell Zach is going to put this on the show. Just kidding, we know, he totally is. Zero doubt in my mind whatsoever. So, he gets his call and they're on a lockdown investigation. Unknown to Erin, Victoria had been secretly exchanging

romantic messages with an inmate in federal prison named Grant Amato since May of 2024. So she was basically having a pen pal affair with this guy in prison. For almost a year. For almost a year, yes. So Amato, I just wanna do like a side tangent about who this guy is

because nobody really talked about it in depth. I saw triple murderer grant a motto and I went what the f and then I saw another Like blurb that said uh In prison or you know sentenced to however long to life in prison for murdering his family and i'm like what? So, okay I did a little dig into who this guy is and it's like a mini crime story inside this crime story. So this guy, Grant Amato, he was serving time in a Florida prison for the 2019 murders of his own family.

According to Us Weekly, he and Victoria allegedly became pen pals after she saw his story in the 2024, you can't make this shit up, Paramount Plus true crime documentary, Control Alt Desire. Which now everyone's watching, I'm sure. Big time. Biggest hit that Paramount Plus has had in months. Paramount Plus is like, thank you for the shout out. But yeah, apparently she watched an episode, imagine watching a true crime episode, do it every day. I do it every day.

Imagine watching one about somebody killing his family and going, now that's a hottie, you know? Well, yeah, I was gonna say, did she reach out to him because she thought he was hot? She just saw him and was like, into him, yeah. That's so, like, so that makes me think like- I mean, I haven't seen the episode, I'll watch it and see if there's anything

like particularly engaging about this guy, but the fact that he murdered his family feels a little bit already like a red flag to me. No, no big deal. So if, and if nobody, so not at all, not blaming Erin, let's be clear, but they, uh, I'm like, so was there already like, like marital issues or something for her to just like so flippantly. Okay. So I was like, how would you go from totally happy? A few months earlier.

So it's not like this has been years of like dissatisfaction, right? Like they met in 2018, got married in 2022, and now this is happening in 2024, it's not months, sorry, two years later, which like, I'm not saying you can't be unhappy. I'm saying like jumping from getting married in 2022 to like trying to murder somebody.

Or also like even just being like getting married and being truly happy to like, and not doing anything unfaithful to just, oh, I'm gonna talk to this guy because- Yeah. Like something's off. Because I saw him in a crime documentary. It wasn't even like an accidental bumping into each other.

It wasn't like, oh, an old flame reached out. It's like she saw it and actively pursued him, which I just am like, what in the fuck are you doing? Yeah, what was it about him? Or what was going on behind the scenes with her that we don't know about? Well, let me tell you his story. Cause I will, I want to be so clear

on what this guy's fucking past is. Cause there is zero understanding on my part of like be so clear on what this guy's fucking past is because there is zero understanding on my part of like why she was so into this guy okay but the episode follows the investigation of this guy grantamato he was accused of killing his parents and his brother because they banned him from talking to a cam model named silvie okay so short fuse he's got like it took nothing for him to want to kill. Not nothing. Earlier that year, Amato's family was found at their home in Chulota, Florida.

I hope I'm saying that right. Chulota, Florida. The scene was allegedly staged as a murder suicide that appeared to frame his deceased brother. Amato fled the residence, a 24-man hunt ensued after investigators noticed his vehicle was missing. Once he was tracked down and brought in for questioning, he claimed to have no idea what happened

to his parents and brother. However, investigators found that one of the family's credit cards was used to purchase $600 of tokens to talk to this cam girl named Sylvie. Now, why did Grant Amato's family ban him from talking to Sylvie? Well, let me tell you. Amato had developed personal feelings for Sylvie. Now, why did Grant Amato's family ban him from talking to Sylvie? Well, let me tell you. Amato had developed personal feelings for Sylvie, the cam girl, and paid to talk to her on a consistent basis. He did not have a job at the time, but he allegedly stole $200,000 from his

brother and father to talk to Sylvie online. Okay. So after they realized he had taken this $200 grand for this, they realized he needed help. So they sent him to a rehab facility. Once he returned from treatment, his family gave him an ultimatum. If he was gonna keep living at their home, he had to get a job, go to therapy, and pay for his own phone and cam girl.

Sure. Sure. Instead of following the request, he stole his mother's phone to contact Sylvie. And the family kicked him out Kicked him out and then he came and murdered them all. So did he do it? Do we think he did it in the name of love and like don't tell me I can't talk to this woman or was it the just He didn't like being told, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I'm gonna watch the episode later and hopefully I'll have like a better idea because all I know is the kind of facts of it. I don't really know what the...

Yeah, and where's the cam model now? Like did she have anything to say about... I don't know. I don't know. That's a really good point because this was also like a totally separate article. Like I couldn't find this anywhere in the story of Erin and Victoria. Yeah. But so to like come back to the story, Victoria was exchanging messages like romantic like she saw the story about him and went well that guy's for me. I mean maybe she thought like he would send her money like I don't know. I like I don't know what also like oh I see well also like he doesn't have any. I also wonder for for a year,

so she had to know it was shady from the very beginning unless Erin saw letters from prison coming to the house. So they were texts, they called it pen pals, but they were just texting. Oh, okay, I see. I mean, I assume there was a way they pen pal. I assume at the beginning, you're probably right, they probably did pen pal

because you can't just like text someone without knowing how to contact them. But then she sent him a phone, gave him money for a phone. And that's how they started communicating from then on. You can just get a phone in jail? I mean, not legally. Sure, okay. Yeah.

And actually that's how it ends up coming out because they seized his phone and said, what the fuck is this? I see. Yeah. And actually that's how it ends up coming out because they seized his phone and said, what the fuck is this? So, yeah. So essentially they started this romantic tete-a-tete. She used the alias Victoria Candy with an IE. It felt like she was trying to be cam model. I don't know.

Like, I don't know what's going on, but she described, she called herself Victoria Candy and according to the police report they wrote about how much they are in love, but pretty soon the conversations turned dark because she wanted a way out of her marriage and she said FH didn't want a divorce. Now I was confused by this because FH in like wedding lingo and stuff and her being a Disney adult in cruise ships in Disney like jargon DH means dear husband and FH means future husband so I was like why are you calling him future husband and he doesn't want a divorce like you're already married I didn't totally understand that. Was that done multiple times because D and F are next to each other on a QWERTY keyboard

maybe she just said the wrong one. Oh maybe maybe. Although they were texting, so I don't know. Oh, you're right. I don't know. First husband? I don't know. FH, yeah. So maybe it meant something else, but her being a Disney adult and all, I was like, she probably knows what FH means, like future husband. Maybe she called him that for years. Oh, that was the other thing. Their wedding was delayed by several years because of COVID. So maybe she just got used to, you know, how people say like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe she just got used to saying future husband and like didn't switch it.

I don't know, it doesn't really matter. But essentially what she was saying is that her husband wants a divorce or does not want a divorce. So she needs to find, and I don't know that that's true or not. That's just what she told the guy, allegedly. And she apparently, this is how she initiated the criminal part of their conversation. So Victoria allegedly told Grant Amato she wanted her husband dead and began setting

aside money for a hitman, a total of $11,515 with a down payment of $2,500 and she did pay that $2,500 Wow police cited and that is apparently how he got so sorry. Maybe you already said this but if not So is he getting out of jail like it sounds like she's asking someone who's already in jail and can't get to him to kill He's gonna contact the hitman for her. I see, okay. Because yes, like right, he's in prison, but he has connections. I know, he has connections, okay. So she sends him this $2,500 down payment, so she's serious about this, like she's not fucking around. Police cited text records in which Victoria texted Amato, quote, am I a bad person? Because I chose to end his existence, not divorce. Yes. Girl, yeah. Girl, yeah, you are. Not the divorce thing. Like,

yeah, we, I know what you mean. Was she, did she mean that? Am I a bad person? I think she wanted him to be like, no, honey, we're just in love. I have no idea. Am I a bad person? Yeah, girl. Yeah, what the fuck? Like that? I mean, I can't really say in hindsight, because I'm learning all this at the same time. But the quickness that she just went into, like, she just saw a big ass murderer on TV, and then immediately went into writing, like, there went into writing. Like there is a disconnect. So when she says things like that. What did you think that there are other people she's reached out to?

That can't have been her first. That can't be her first. Like what are the odds that this is the only person she reached out to and it like blossomed into this thing? I mean, maybe, but I would put money on she's watched these shows and reached out to people before. Cause to do this so easily without any issues, like you must know how to,

I don't know how to reach out to someone in person. I mean, I could figure it out, I guess, but it seems like there's something going on. I, yeah, I don't think it was her. I think it was the first person that like wrote back to her or that she like maybe had interests in, like it had run its course. That's the vibe I get but like to be clear it's just a vibe.

But for her to have those like impulsive irrational like to behave that way now looking at like what happens later like it doesn't surprise me when she says am I a bad person? I think something's like off. I think there's like for her to, she's not getting it. I'm curious when the trial begins. March 25th, by the way, everybody coming up one week from today, allegedly we'll see what happens. But speedy trial, damn. I know that's what I said.

I mean, that's probably the core. That's probably when they determine, well, okay, we'll get to it. So as for the timeline, now this is pretty wild. This is where I had to kind of go digging for like all the pieces because it was really confusing. You what? God bless you, Kristin.

Thank you, what can I say? I have some helpful hobbies that sometimes relate to our podcast. So as for the timeline, this is what we know. Allegedly October 2nd of 2024, Victoria Candy sends Amado the location in Barstow, California where Aaron was filming Ghost Adventures. So this is October 2nd of last year.

Plus sent a picture, which is very fucked up, that Aaron had sent her of him with the crew or with his buddies or like at the ghost town there's a ghost town near Barstow and apparently she sent a motto this picture to be like this is what he looks like and Then sent the location and the hotel where he was staying while filming so our stuff So in theory like I mean, I know they weren't the actual he wasn't the actual target, but like Zach could have also been hurt. Yes.

Because there's a picture of all of them and where they're saying. I don't know if, I don't know who all was in the picture. I do know that he was on set with the crew and she sent a picture of Aaron. It's, but see that's another thing. But I don't, you're right. I don't know who else was in the picture. I don't know if it was like the whole crew. I don't know if it was. That's another thing though, of the, like, that something's off about like, you would do this on set with a bunch of other witnesses

and like people around. Like it, like something's not, not that I know how to like commit a murder. My guess is like, because he's traveling. So she's like, oh, I won't be connected to it cause I'll be at home. But like still, you're right. But like there's still so many people who like,

when you're on set and you're filming a TV show like people know every Minute where you are so I find out immediately, but I think they were going for the hotel So they knew the town they knew where he was. I knew he was filming etc And I think their goal was to catch him alone in the hotel like after they wrapped for the day Yeah, okay, wherever they were staying because in the hotel. Like after they wrapped for the day? Yeah. Okay. Like wherever they were staying. Because, well here we go, Amado responded, so she sends this information, Amado responds that he'll be in contact with someone quote, who will be taking care of the situation. According to the police report, the two also discussed the 11 grand that Victoria had set aside for quote, when the

job is finished. This is from the official police report. The next day on October 3rd, according to police grant, Amato allegedly texted the hired hit man who we believe is a hired hit man, quote, he's asleep right now in his hotel room. I need to know what's going on. Can I get an update? Was it done? Later that day, his phone was seized and communication stopped Wow, and it took from then until March 4th for them to analyze the phone and realize there was like a hitman plot on the phone

Shit, so they just seized the phone and she's probably sitting there like I haven't heard from him. Like- She also must've been like, yeah. Well, I guess, so from October to March, so that's like six months that she's married to him and seeing him all the time and like, hoping she's not busted. I mean-

Okay, so this is why I need you later to go through her Instagram. She posted like lovey-dovey posts, all leading up to March, like between October and March. There was one I think like within, I'll probably get to it, but within a few days she was posting like, I love it. And I'm like, I wonder if it was in reaction to like, uh-oh, I could get in trouble, you know?

Yeah. Or if it was just their norm, but like even Valentine's day, they were all lovey-dovey. Just wild. So it wasn't until March 4th, so she must've just been pooping her pants every day. Every day. It wasn't until March 4th that the phone was fully analyzed and authorities were told about the alleged murder plot.

So two days later on March 6th, Victoria was arrested. Do you think she thought, sorry, I know we were just talking about this, but do you think in those six months, she ever thought she was busted or do you think like, oh, he just lost his phone? Like she started to feel, I don't know. I don't know if he ever called her. I have no idea. My guess, like if, okay,

if she didn't know that the phone was taken, yeah, I guess you could probably just be nervous, but write it off as like, oh, he like duped me or like, yeah, his phone got stolen, but it's fine or it broke or whatever. My guess is somehow they touched base, I would imagine. But if that's the case and he's like, hey, guards took my phone,

I imagine those six months were so high stress for her. Yeah, oh my God, yeah. Because it'd be one thing if she never heard from him again in those six months and be like, oh, he broke up with me. It was too scary. I imagine like in January, I feel like you'd be like, okay, maybe I'm in the clear. Cause it's been three months and nobody said anything.

So like, I imagine that was almost more shocking. Like, okay, it's been months and months. Like nobody said anything. Surely they would have looked at the text by now. I can't even imagine a world where- The wheels of justice move slow, my friend. Give it six months and they'll check the text, you know? So, sorry, I keep interrupting you.

Please go. No, please. That's what I wanted. Because I just am like blabbing all this at you. But basically, it took till March 4th for them to like report this to the police after analyzing the phone. Two days later, March 6th, Victoria was arrested. That's when they called Aaron while he was filming,

somewhere else, I assume, and said, "'Hey, your wife's been arrested "'for the attempted murder of you.'" I would still be in denial for at least a full day. I'd be like, this is obviously- Big time. I'd be like, is Zach pranking me? Yeah, yeah.

Is this a prank from Zach, seriously? Well, I would have been like First of all, it would be hard for me to even get over the she was texting another guy Yeah, that's true. Like I wouldn't even be able to process that in a day though Like she was she like you think she's cheating on me, but we're so happy together. Let alone let alone She saved money. She puts down a deposit She paid also like we talk about all the time, but to find, for people who find out that they were on a hit list or something like that, to find out their price, and it was like 12,000.

And I wonder if he had a thought about that, about where was that, was that my money? Not that that's the biggest concern, but where'd the money even come from? How was she saving it without her knowing? And it's like, she was like, oh, I'll kill him for like, kill him for 11,000. That's enough. It's like, ugh. Yeah, they literally paid 15,000 to steal a Queen Mary room from us. I know.

Allegedly. Come on. Allegedly. Allegedly. Thank you. So sources told TMZ that Aaron was blindsided and devastated at this turn of events involving his wife as he thought he was in a happy marriage.

So up until Victoria's arrest, he believed their marriage was solid. Just one week before the arrest, so end of February, Victoria had posted a photo of their legs intertwined and their cat on top of their laps, and it said, cuddle puddle with my boys. So she was like full on playing the loving wife, you know? I can't imagine.

And you know, in six months, they must have at least like kissed or hugged once. And for like, I would feel, if I were Aaron, I feel so bad for Aaron. I can't imagine knowing like, I just hugged someone who for the last six months, I've been overdue to die. Oh yeah, I mean, they were on the couch like cuddling,

you know, like they were clearly still very intimate. A Goodwin, according to ET, Goodwin was reportedly shattered and the same source said that he was getting love and support from his Ghost Adventures team. I will say it was really awkward at the end of this Entertainment Tonight, like a clip that I watched because they were like,

breaking news, you know, it's all dramatic. And then they shoehorn this clip at the end of the host from like years ago, interviewing Erin on set. And it says like, as for the safety or security on set, here's what Erin told me in a past interview. And Erin's like, so what a lockdown is, is it means that homeless people can't break in while we're filming.

And it's like, oh God. Oh God. Could have not used that. Could have not shoved that clip into the end, but I was like, that seems totally irrelevant, except that the guy in the clip was the one hosting the Entertainment Tonight voiceover. It was just strange.

I was like, I don't, okay. I guess there's like only so many clips of Erin not in night vision. Right, and not being over-chattered by Zach. And not scared, yeah. So if this helps, kind of give an idea, he has since, after how shocking this must have been, he has since obtained a court order

to have her stay away from him, prevent any form of contact for three months. And since then, I'll get to it in a little bit, but he has also filed for divorce, thankfully. So he's not in denial about this or anything. I mean, we've always felt bad for Erin in different ways. Yes. But in this way, I can't imagine,

I mean, first of all, the shattering feeling of being cheated on, the shattering feeling of being cheated on with someone in true crime when you are in true crime paranormal spaces. Yes, true. The shattering of not only that, but she ever wanted to break up with you, that she ever wanted,

and it didn't matter that you would be- But she wasn't happy this whole time? But she wasn't happy. And not only, I can't even touch the, she wanted me dead. Right. Or like, or she, I mean, it feels almost like, almost like the flip side or like a woman's side

of like a family annihilator where it's like, it's not that I want you dead, I just don't want to be with you, but I'm too ashamed to ask for a divorce or something. Right, cause he didn't, like she said, he doesn't want a divorce, but I'm like, as far as we know, he didn't even know there were any issues.

I will say, of course, that's all like now hearsay. I don't know the real story, but as far as from his perspective, but as far as I can tell, he was, they were posting like, for example, literally after she had tried to have him killed. So after this October thing where she's put money down and blah, blah, blah, she it. So they posted this YouTube video and it's called the Kualoa Ranch Tour with the Goodwins. And it's basically November 18th they posted it of last year, and this is

about a month or two after all this happened. So in the video, they're seen touring this ranch in Honolulu County, Hawaii. They're in good spirits. They're on this Jurassic theme. They're like vlogging basically. They're on this Jurassic Park theme tour. Apparently at one point, Erin walks through the large like jaws of a dinosaur

and is like, it's eating me, like being Erin, you know? So it's like very weird to see them kind of playing off each other. And I mean, I don't know if you've seen photos of them together, but they are just like so lovey dovey, like just like it's really shocking. I mean, from an outsider perspective. And you know, what's extra painful too, is that she was probably so stressed about maybe being busted and wanting to like

make sure she had some sort of alibi testifying that she was in love with him that she was probably over correcting. That's right. And for the last six months he probably felt the happiest they'd ever been. And you fucking nailed exactly what was disturbing me. I was like, why the last six months has it been so crazy? Oh, I see. Like why has it been such a romantic whirlwind? Oh, I see. Like why has it been such a romantic whirlwind? Oh, I see. Like we're falling in love all over again or something. On top of that, I can't imagine the crushing feeling

of the paranoia for the rest of my life of like, I just blissfully went six. Well, I just went around for six months and I was every day, like I'm supposed to be dead. Like, what does that mean for like tomorrow? Is there someone else that's supposed to hurt me and I'm just like like I would be constantly nervous I like did I just evade death when it was supposed to happen Did I just evade death here like was that was I supposed to survive that like I would just be?

Every day I would be so fucking stressed about like is something planned for to hurt me Yeah, like what if that guy still has that hitman ready to go who knows who that hitman was? Yeah Oh, I know the idea of like the next person you meet and they're like, I love you and it's like but do you? Like how would you ever trust anybody, you know? Yeah, I got a feeling he's never gonna marry again. That's rough times I just it makes me yeah, it's just really unsettling. So as of last night, when I was finishing checking any final updates, Victoria Goodwin is being held on $100,000 bail pending her trial with a preliminary hearing. So it's just a preliminary hearing set for March 25th,

2025. I assume we'll get more information. That's a week from today. But as this comes out, it's probably pretty on time. Do you think they've talked since? Do you think like he got that phone call from the police? I mean, I'm sure they were advised like, don't talk to her. But like how awkward, you know, he's got he wants to be at that preliminary hearing and he's the last time he saw her they were in love. And now it's like on trial for trying to kill me.

It was like sending our pictures of him at the thing. And she was like, oh, let me forward these to the hit man. You know, it's just like, how do you even process that? Yeah. So I don't know if they've spoken. I don't think so, because he pretty immediately put up like a three month non-contact, no contact order. So as for OK, here's Victoria's defense that I'm sure she's hoping Aaron will. But she's not a bad person because. Right, exactly.

Although she wasn't sure, remember. She was just asking. She never found out yes or no. So she claimed this was all just a fantasy. She was just daydreaming about being free from Erin and never meant to go through with it, but financial transactions and detailed plans contradict her claims.

That's all we know. But police said, no, no, she's lying. So I think Erin had no choice but to be like, fuck, this is real. She did admit to sending a motto that $2,500 deposit, but she said she just thought it was for cell phones. Which is you're still going to jail, babe, because you're giving... What do you mean cell phones? You're giving inmates phones.

I mean it's, for $2500, what kind of fucking Samsung Galaxy nonsense are you buying? Good luck to any lawyers who have to like... Literally. Operate against text messages that tell exactly what you want on... Yikes! I am curious what the actual text message is that says, I want a hitman. Like, what was that conversation?

Cause at some point it had to be said thoroughly. I'm going to read every court transcript, I swear to God. At some point it had to be said the words, can you kill him or how do we do it? Or I want him out of here. All the things that have been said are so, such like hitman tropes, like I'll take care of it or I'll contact someone who can take care of it,

and it's like for when the situation or when the job is finished, all that kind of terminology. So yeah, I wonder when the actual request, like how she pivoted into. So authorities say Victoria was already making efforts to arrange for Amato to have Aaron murdered while he was on location working. And that I think is going to be the way that they pitch it at trial. Just six days after Victoria's arrest, Aaron filed for divorce.

And here's what the filing stated. Our views, tastes, likes and dislikes have become incompatible to the extent that it has become impossible for us to live together as husband and wife in marital harmony." He further added, there is no possibility of reconciliation between husband and wife. That's why they're getting divorced for irreconcilable differences. Are you sure? You can't like, you can't like- Attempted murder. Reconcile this?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, select a box at the courthouse of why you're getting divorced. He's like, well, infidelity? Yeah, but there's so much more. Maybe he's just trying to be classy about it. He's like, I don't even... His lawyer probably put it in, you know? I doubt he said anything. He probably was just having a meltdown and his lawyer was like, I got this. I mean, I can't, and that was only two weeks ago. I don't even know if I, you can process it within two weeks. He probably still hasn't even figured out.

Certainly not. And to go home to your home, your family home with like framed pictures of you and like everything, everything smells like her. Like her food is still in the fridge. Like, I mean, it's the same as any break up after you've lived with somebody, I guess. But this one's like everything's tainted. Everything is now and now being famous. It's like the whole fucking world is gossiping about it, too.

So it's not even like you get that privacy, you know? Well, that's that's what I would feel so paranoid about. Like, am I safe at all? It's like you already. Yeah. You already as someone with fame, you're already maybe nervous about like you're about security. Yeah. And now it's like, well, shit, security wasn't going to save me from this. You know? Yep. Yep. Yep. And and. Ooh, so unsettling.

He also requested full custody of their two dogs, Gracie and Max, stating that he had always been their primary caregiver anyway. Yeah. And also she might kill them. She apparently will kill living things away from her. I'm glad Aaron got the puppies, at least. That's good. I wonder if he's like staying with Zach or something. Like I wonder, like I wouldn't be able to live in that house. I wouldn't even want to be in that house because what if the hit man's still out

there and knows where I live or something? Yeah. Or the guy in prison knows. I don't know. Yeah. I'm not sure what, uh, where he is right now. I think that probably they're trying to keep them under wraps, but I will say, well, speaking of Zach, um, we do have a little bit on the GA front. Zach has reportedly been very, very devastated for his friend and says he's giving all the support the team can. I combed Reddit and I found this screenshot of Zach's Instagram story from the other day, just as like exactly what you'd expect, like trying to be comforting, but also like,

was that the move, bud? Like it wasn't bad. Here, I'll show it to you. Was it the Bob Marley song? Yes, yes. Oh, you saw that? Okay. I did.

Literally the Bob Marley. He posted pictures of him and Erin together with the song, Every Little Thing Is Gonna Be Alright. It's so cringe. I'm sending it to you just again so you have it. Which like, I have to, like, when I think of two men I know.

being there for each other, it's already so few and far between that I don't want to criticize the attempts. I don't want to hate on, like, their attempt at being comforting and loving to each other. Like, trying, but at the same time it's like, hmm, you know, I don't want to criticize the attempt. I don't want to hate on like their attempt at being comforting and loving to each other. Like trying, but at the same time it's like, hmm, you know, I don't know. I wouldn't have done it, but whatever. He basically, yeah. It's the two of them and it's, they're cute photos. I mean, Aaron looks fucking nuts in all of them, but I guess that's kind of his, his

eyes. His shtick. Yeah, his shtick. It's just a mom Marley. And then he wrote, he put a heart like jiff floating around and then like everything will be all right in text. And it's like, thanks. Yeah. It's, yeah.

Yeah, you know, it's kind. I feel like as far as Zach goes, nobody knows how he's going to react, but I think he's been very, very, oh, and then somebody on Twitter jokingly or ex or whatever, jokingly I guess said like, should have been Zach just saying or something. Oh my God. I know, and I was like, not cute.

And then Zach retweeted it and said, I'd be careful what you say, dot, dot, dot. And I'm like, wait, now are you threatening, like what's going on everybody? But you know, Zach was like, I just can't wait for how this is gonna turn out with Zach on the show. I know, and I'm sure there's a million people.

I can only imagine our red people being like, what do you think Zach thinks about it all? It's like, what do you think he thinks? His best friend almost got fucking murdered. Probably not good things. I've never understood that when they're like, I wonder what they think. It's like, you when they're like, I wonder what they think. It's like, you have a brain, you can guess what they think.

You can guess. He's not that out of the ordinary that he wouldn't know to be sad and comfortable. We don't like him because he's annoying, but like, we also like, I'm pretty sure I can guess that he has the same feeling any other person would feel. He has enough sense, I would think. He's a pretty successful person and businessman and public figure enough sense, I would think. He's a pretty successful person

and businessman and public figure. Yeah, I would assume he knows how to react when something traumatic happens to a friend. Obviously this is like, you know, very niche as far as traumatic events go, like very rare. But still, you're right, like, you know, he was, I mean, I assume he was pretty, and everyone affiliated with all the sources

that have reached out to papers or have talked to him. I can't imagine the- He's been pretty good. I can't imagine that night of ghost hunting, and oof, I'm assuming they rapped for the night. I hope they rapped for the night. I hope so. And like going back to the hotel that night, like I don't think anyone slept.

They were all probably just like in shambles. And like I feel like we had to go into the police station Oh, yeah, well, I was gonna say if he even went back to the hotel room They probably just switch hotel rooms if they thought they'll owe that to yeah. Oh, well, no, this is from that was from six months later Yeah, that was later. I don't think this was this was this was well after but the fact that like she knew where he was at That moment cuz yeah, he was still out and was still operating under this idea that like, I didn't do anything. I would be so scared to be alone ever after that. This has to have caused some sort of like- I don't have to be scared to be around people. I feel like, just leave me alone in my little hidey hole.

I would think this would give me some level of agoraphobia, but also always wanting someone nearby in case something happened. Something safe, he's only safe. Yeah, yeah. It will do something to him. It's hard to even imagine. It will do something to him psychologically, for sure.

I would imagine so, yeah, yeah. Oh, that poor guy. Yeah, it really blows, because everyone, of course, in the comments was like, hey, of all people, really? Aaron's gone through enough. Yeah. This guy, he's already being kind of like mock bullied

on camera for like the shtick. And it feels almost like this is like written, like it's a movie because it's like, why would the guy who's already like known for like dark entertainment all of a sudden be the like the victim here? Oh, there were also a lot of kind of speculative comments all of a sudden be the victim here. Like it just doesn't- There were also a lot of kind of speculative comments

like, did Zach plan this? Oh my God. No, Zach did not plan it. Let's be real, come on. But yeah, it does feel like right. I was telling Em, I was texting Em the other day being like, or maybe it was last night being like, this feels like we're in a simulation because how absurd?

Like it's just like all things Yeah, it just feels outrageous. Like I don't know. I'm very curious, especially once once the pre-preliminary hearing starts and and I'm curious to see like what she pleads and there's probably I know this is like such a Stupid I know this is such a stupid, non-important thing, but I would imagine this would make him and Zach and all of his friends so much closer. Like, think of all the people who are really rallying around

to be with them right now. I mean, honestly, next time, it might be, what's another one of their names? Nick's gone. Billy, Jay? Billy, get in the basement. And Aaron's like, Billy? Yeah, maybe. Hopefully. You graduated basement and Aaron's like, Yeah, maybe hopefully.

At the very least, hopefully Aaron never has to do anything he never wants to ever again. You can't send the man who's traumatized by like a potential hit out, hit on him and send him into an abandoned basement. Are you kidding? I'm scared to do that now. And no, you know, and think about the context.

Obviously it's too soon right now, but I just know at some point this is gonna get used as material. Oh, the fact that they were like, oh, Zach says he's creative control, but he'll talk to the producers. I'm like, you know, he's gonna be like, sorry, this was over my head.

It's like, no, you run this whole damn show. We all know it. You know, at some point, when Aaron is healed up enough and wants to go back to work and all this stuff, you know that they're going to go to a location where a woman tried to kill her husband and they're going to be like, use this, use it. Like, it's going to be something that's like really cringe. It's going to be... So disrespectful of him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But he's gonna play along, because he always does. Or maybe he'll be fine by then. I mean, maybe he's gonna handle this with humor or something, you know? Maybe he has the right crew to really get him through it, I hope. I hope. But everybody in the fan base is very supportive and rooting for him, so hopefully, it, hopefully I just I can sense the impending

Material that will come from this eventually when everything is like said and done with I feel like this is beyond the The other stuff of like Whatever the hell has happened to Zach Bagans that he's turned into an entire like narrative of his life This is definitely something he'll milk until the end of time. Yeah, I think no doubt. I think he doesn't care about Aaron, but he's also above all else, a media mogul, so to speak like he's a businessman. He's a businessman.

He knows I think he I think he has enough of a brain and heart Mm-hmm to hold off until he's been given the green light But then when he's given the green light, we are never gonna hear the end of oh my god He's never gonna stop and I I just wanted everyone to hear the story before we get to that point because it's like I Don't know what's gonna come of this but imagine the dramatic recreations that could potentially exist. It's going to be out of control. I know. Ugh. Well, oh, when did the blazer come off? I didn't even see... When I got really sweaty and was like,

oh, I don't like wearing this anymore. Well, well done on your reporting. That was beautiful. Thank you. I really did think about doing the whole thing like that. And then I was like, that's so fucking annoying. So I stopped. But I've been practicing my reporter voice a little bit. I'm very rusty.

Thank you. And now I finally have my own blazer. I used to borrow Alison's in college all the time and it was ill fitting on both of us, but we were like, because she was in business classes and I was in journalism classes. So we'd like pass the blazer back and forth. But unlike the sisterhood of the tri-lubr pants, the blazer did not fit either of us. So it feels nice to finally pass the blazer back and forth. But unlike the sisterhood of the Trial You Pants,

the blazer did not fit either of us. So it feels nice to finally have a blazer that I can like, power suit. Yeah, yeah. I like to think that you were in a blazer up here, but down there you're just still in your underwear. You're just like, you, like a full COVID job interview.

Far off. You're not far off. I'm in those boxer shorts that you showed me at the Pendleton, whatever. The ones I got you, those are good. Yeah, those ones, yeah. Yeah. How about you boxers?

Awesome. They rule. They rule. I'm not gonna show anyone because I have not shaved my legs, but just know. That they're there, all the hair. All the hair and all the legs are all there. Thank you for your insane story. I think I don't think you'll get another breaking case like that.

Gosh, that felt nice. It felt so on point for both of us, you know, like we 100% wow. And I just all the respect to them. I'm not trying to milk this for anything I just thought we should hear What was going on? So yeah, remember when I said it would be short now, it's over two hours. Sorry Mine was an hour an hour long next week. I'm gonna have such a short one. So that Stupid Catholic story. I never what I'm not even Catholic, that made me miserable. I can't imagine.

Yeah, yeah, no, but it was good though. But I feel like we got quite a taste for medieval exorcism practices. Oh man. Well, well done, Christine. If everyone would like to hear us talk even more, you can head over to Patreon and our Yappy Hour. By the time this comes out,

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