And That's Why We Drink - E460 Haunting Snap Chats and Screening Calls from Space
Episode Date: November 30, 2025Happy long weekend, everyone! It's episode 460 and we're so sorry to report that life got in the way this week so we weren't able to record a new episode. We're going to start building in weeks off so... you'll have a heads up when this happens in the future but in the meantime, please enjoy (or skip, that's OK too!) a very late-night, slap-happy live show from our very first time in Houston! Em tells us spooky tales from the Hotel Galvez and Christine covers the wild story of astronaut Lisa Nowak. We may even catalogue everything in our first ever Buc-ee's carts... and that's why we drink! Go to http://helixsleep.com/drink for 27% Off Sitewide. Exclusive for listeners of And That's Why We DrinkFor a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping when you go to http://nutrafol.com and enter the promo code DRINK. Magnesium, multiplied. 10 forms for total support. Go to https://qualialife.com/DRINK to get 50% off and save an extra 15% with the code DRINK. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to http://RocketMoney.com/drink today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I brought my recording equipment with me to Thanksgiving, fully intending to record an
episode. But then on the first or second night, we were here, Leona got very sick
overnight. Then I, of course, contracted whatever she had, and things just kind of went to
shit. So it's my fault. I flubbed it, but we did not get an episode recorded in time for this
week and we're releasing a live episode. I know that a lot of you really don't like these. And I'm
sorry, moving forward, we're going to start building in a few weeks off through the year just to
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what have you, so that we're not scrambling last minute. And we wanted to, you know, be transparent
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So if you are not feeling it, please no hard feelings.
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And I have not forgotten about our redo of the Thanksgiving song.
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So don't worry. I'm getting my pipes warmed up for that. And you will not be rid of me and my beautiful singing voice. Okay. Thanks for being here. Thanks for supporting us, even when things get hard and confusing and complicated. We love you. And for everyone who is celebrating Thanksgiving, have a wonderful holiday. If you're having big feelings this time of year, we're sending lots of love your way and support and solidarity. And we're just really thankful.
you're here along for the ride with us.
So on to the live show, and otherwise we'll see you next week.
Bye.
Oh, I almost hurt myself on this chair earlier, so I have to be really careful.
Hey, Houston.
We're still here.
We're still here.
Shout out to the people from the previous show who want...
Holy shit.
Who want to watch us a second time?
Why?
Why?
Lord.
You're crazy.
You're crazy.
Oh, I left my notes up here.
Oopsies.
Well, for the people who...
Still leave those down there.
the people who were at the previous show you're going to hear us talk about it again but for the new
people we tried buckies today and we had a blast we spent our life savings well i went in there
so thank you for funding our bucky's shopping trip today we we went in and i saw shopping carts
and i was like ironically jokingly i was like oh christina i'm gonna i'm gonna get a shopping cart so i feel
like I'm really shopping here.
And then like 10 minutes later, there was like 50
things in my car. We like met in an aisle.
We like met in an aisle with our shopping carts.
And they were like pile.
Yeah. What have we done?
I was like, remember that time I thought I wasn't going to buy anything
and now there's nothing left?
They had tie-dye. There was no win for you there.
We got snacks. I got my hat. You got a shirt. I got a shirt.
I got a shirt. I got boxers. We got it all.
Listen.
Texas is pretty great.
Treating us nice.
Oh, we like it.
We like it.
We do have to, we have to say, we found our rough patch in Texas in general.
We do not know how to drive in your area.
No.
And the, your highways have very short ramps.
Yes.
And many of them next to each other.
And many, many, many, many, many large, large trucks.
That won't let you have to solve.
They have places to be.
We've spent three days in Texas now.
It feels like an eternity.
We've been on the road for a long time, it feels like.
And I've been chauffered everywhere.
I haven't driven the car once.
But between Christine and Eva, I've been like the GPS guru.
No, false.
And I was like, okay, turn now.
And I was like, oh, never mind.
You missed it.
We already missed it.
There's like six turns.
One's like a do not enter.
There's like a U-turn lane.
And we're not used to the U-turn thing.
What the fuck is going on here?
I don't know.
I mean, we're used to you turns, but not like the...
We're used to parking on the highway in Los Angeles, so...
Yeah.
We're used to just sitting in traffic and not moving at all.
And now we're going 1,000 miles an hour with a bunch of trucks.
It's really good and really safe.
What else have we done?
I mean, we did another show.
This is our first time doing a double feature, so let's see what happens.
Yeah.
We have no idea what's going to happen.
But I still have one.
so it could go many different ways
we'll find out
I was saying earlier it's I mean
usually if you listen to one of our episodes
and we sound a little daze and confused
it's because we've been recording all day
and it's like the last one we can pump out
of ourselves yeah but so like if we sound
a little out of it at the end it's
I mean you're going to hear some nonsense out of me
I'll tell you that the first episode
wow the first show that we did tonight
I was just like
Eva had to come up three minutes in and fix the computer.
It was like, or fix the slideshow.
It was the wrong slideshow, one.
Two, I didn't know that three feet did not equal 18 inches.
Oh, my.
No, and you also didn't know that by three feet you meant three stories.
It was a whole thing.
Yeah, oh, I said someone fell a whole three feet, but he fell three floors.
18 inches.
Look, if that was the first one, I'm sorry for what you're about to hear it.
night. We can't promise
really anything, so I'm just
going to shut up. But thank you guys
for having us, and we're very
stoked to be here.
And
this was our first
experience in general in Texas.
Yeah, it is, and we love it.
It's loud, and it's large.
It lives up to the hype. And we had
Waterburger, it was amazing.
Waterburger, yes. That was.
Very good.
Very, very good. So thank you. You guys are
putting on quite a wonderful city for us.
Like, you're setting the bar very high for the rest of our tour.
Let's put it that way.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
So that being said, I want to start you guys off right,
and not like the last episode.
Episode?
Yeah, where I was like, Eva, get up here.
I can't do this.
Hang on.
See, I can't.
I warned you.
So, okay, so the first thing we're going to do,
which I think everyone's pretty excited about.
if you're not applaud anyway,
because I have anxiety.
You're such a panderer. God damn.
We're going to start with a little drinking game.
So the goal is to get smashed.
And some of you, a lot of you,
were here already for the first round of this.
Including me.
Some people have already played this game,
so you guys have to catch up.
One of those people is me still
Okay, so drink once of Christine gasps
Uh-huh
Uh-huh
Very rare occurrence
Drink once for listen
Listen
Drink once for
Fun fact
Which is not fun at all
Never, never
Drink also once for
Sure
Shishishishish and any reference
to us sweating which is probably going to happen
Literally always
Drink twice for hello
all right
they were primed from the first show
yeah the people in the first show already heard us say
we don't know if they're going to say it or not
so let's do the hand thing maybe
they'll get it come on
also drink twice for it's just funny
honestly
I mean
honestly truthishly it's just
fucking funny
truthishly
Megan
God, is that my new...
First I went for...
I finally escaped Sassy
and I'm fucking Megan.
Yeah.
You brought this upon yourself.
Don't look at me.
It's just funny how that happened.
So, drink twice if we talk
about the sweet baboo.
Aww.
Little pitty-bitty puppy dupilis.
So...
My sweet baby.
I'm sure he'll come up
because there's...
Christine and I have never had a conversation
without bringing him up.
Yeah.
Drink twice.
for any time we tell Eva what to do.
And based on the last show we did,
that's why everyone's drunk.
It happened three minutes in.
Also, other than the drinking game,
I do like to start off with something adorable
because that's not how this show usually ends.
Right.
We want to, like, trick you.
So let's just slowly wean you in with some babies.
Aw.
So I do the slides,
which means that I wanted to be really visually creative.
when I first thought that this was like the epitome of creativity.
Six pictures together.
Getty's stock images.
From stock photo.
And so I was like, I'm going to post pictures of wine and milkshakes.
And since we're usually an audio show, no one's ever had visuals before, so I'm just going to nail it.
Right.
And then, so I got these pictures off of Google when I typed in, people drinking milkshakes.
It wasn't that hard of a search.
You can do it, too.
And it's precious, but then if you delete the word milkshake and replace it with wine,
and it just says people drinking wine in Google, this is what comes up.
And so I started this project with like, oh, and then I was like, oh.
And it hasn't gone away since.
And in case Em's head is blocking it, these women are heavily, heavily pregnant.
Third trimester pregnant.
And this is a very, very tiny child.
And Christine's in the tub.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
Whatever you say, eh?
So, um, I am going to just crack on into a story for you.
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Now that I've shown you the Q and the funny.
Now I'm really facing out. Hold on.
I need to find the perfect ratio.
See my good side.
Are you good?
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Christine has only one side that has a dimple, so show them your dimple.
There it is.
Precious.
M never lets me stand on that sign.
Also, hang on.
Classic of me.
I've lost my notes.
I also, I wanted to be clear that, like, when we tell you we don't know what we're talking about, ever.
That's not a fun schick.
It's not a schick.
It's real life.
Yeah.
Okay.
here's the
unscripted
someone's very entertained
that is long moment of silence
someone is a big fan of mine and I like it
so
this is the unedited version
because Eva can't edit this live
so good luck to whatever you hear tonight
this is the story of
and let me know if you know of it
the Hotel Galvez
wow
I think they have never heard of it
very very nice of you to humor me if you don't know
some people said I some live there I don't know you live there
I guess they leave like Zach and Cody
okay I don't know just keep talking out people have
experienced it I think there's a lot of waving we don't know things have happened
all right so the Hotel Galvest
we're impressed though by whatever it was that you did there
all right
oh look how old
and creepy it is.
That is so cool.
So it is located in Galveston.
Why did you say it like you've never heard of Galveston?
Because I don't know, like I know geography.
I didn't, I mean, I wanted to make sure it was like close to here.
Oh, I don't know where it is.
Close enough.
So it's a massive hotel right on the beach, as you cannot see.
Never mind.
I'll show you that picture later.
Okay.
and we'll dive right into a fun fact that it is the...
Wait, there's a beach here?
Sorry, now I'm the ignorant one.
The fuck?
You'll see the pictures later.
Okay, okay, okay.
We'll get there.
I trust you.
We'll get there whenever we do.
I'm not sure when.
I'll go on the journey with you.
The fun fact is the building is the oldest and most haunted hotel in Galveston.
Cool.
And it has been on the show's Ghost Stories and Ghost Lab.
Not Ghost Adventure.
Not Bagel Bytes, no.
not that I know of
in the
1800s
oh yeah
it gets sad really fast
oh yeah
in the 1800s
on this property
there were several orphanages
oh my
were
uh oh
what what do you mean were
I'll tell you
I don't know so there were
orphanages on Galveston Island
so now in 1900
Why is that funny?
I'm just kidding.
You can be horrible.
It's fine.
So in 1900, there was a storm called the 1900 storm.
Shut the fuck up.
That's amazing.
And during this storm, oh, never mind.
That's what it looks like now.
Oh, I was like, what a beautiful storm.
I had a beautiful.
What a beautiful.
I said switch slides, and I felt unsure, but I tried.
it and it didn't work.
La la la.
So during the 1900
storm, there
was one specific orphanage
called St. Mary's Orphan's Asylum.
I don't like how that sounds.
Yowsa.
During the storm, that orphanage was
destroyed, killing
90 children.
Oh, no.
Of 93 children.
Oh, no. Are you kidding me?
and 10 nuns.
Yikes.
You guys need to care more about the nuns.
No one said, oh, about that one.
There weren't 90 of them either, though.
I know.
So 100 people in total.
Yikes.
That's terrible.
Trying to save the kids.
No.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
The nuns cut clothesline into pieces like rope
to tie around each kid's waist
and their own, and then they tried to swim
all 90 children together.
out of this flood
which like by the way
I know I say thanks priest
but go fucking nuns
yeah
holy crap
however it potentially
caused all of them to die
faster
so it backfired
because they all got
tangled up together
and drowned in one mass
so a lot of the bodies
obviously were found together
in one big
pile and
oh my
the bodies were
probably they can't be sure
because there were so many they I don't think they
kept track but allegedly
some of the bodies are buried on the property
where the hotel is now
oh boy
so the storm destroyed
the entire island and the residents
wanted to rebuild no matter what
and they ended up rebuilding the area
as of June 1911
so she's a Gemini
and the hotel
Galvez was erected June
1911, so. All right. It was
named after, ooh, it's
a Spanish word, and I don't know it.
It's named
after Count Bernardo
de Galvez
and Madrid.
Really? It has the word
Madrid and Galvez.
The hotel was nicknamed the Queen of the Gulf
because it overlooked the Great Sea Wall
and Gulf of Mexico.
Ooh, ah.
It was also nicknamed
the playground of the Southwest
because the hotel was so
prestigious and it became the
hotel for the elite upper class.
Okay.
Guests included
Howard Hughes, Frank Sinatra,
Jimmy Stewart, General MacArthur,
Franklin Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower,
and Lyndon B. Johnson.
Wow.
Fancy.
In the 1950s,
oh yeah, it gets sad again.
So in the 1950s, there was a bride-to-be.
Oh, boy.
There always is at a hotel, isn't there?
There always is.
Her name was Audra, and she was a guest at the hotel while her fiancé was out to sea.
She was staying in room 501, and she would take the elevator to the eighth floor and climb the ladder up to the roof, and on the roof, she would watch and look out to the sea and wait for her fiancé to come home.
Oh, no.
and after a storm
not the 1900 storm
a new one
the 1950
25 storm
after a storm
adra heard that the ship had
wrecked and all were lost or dead
oh no
and after a week after grieving
she couldn't take it anymore
and she ended up hanging herself in her
bathroom oh god
in room 501
okay it gets sadder
yikes
a week after her death
Audra's fiancee was rescued
oh
oh no
and came home to the hotel
to look for her
that is some
Romeo and Juliet shit right there
so her name
is quote
lovelorn lady
that's the ghost's name
okay and she is the most
famous spirit at Hotel Galvez, especially on the fifth floor since that's where she passed away.
Right.
There you go.
There it is.
So that's what it looks like today.
Okay.
There, oh, yeah, so now we're going to talk about the ghost.
That was easy, right?
All right.
So there is a spirit of a little girl who guests and staff have both seen wearing early 1900s clothing and bouncing a ball.
there's a lot of kids that
I don't know why she's bouncing a ball
but keep in mind there's a lot of
leave her alone
she finally she's got something that keeps her
entertained for eternity so I'm not going to
judge her but keep in mind
since this was also
the place where all the
orphans passed away a lot of the ghosts are kids
right so
oh dear
it's really fun trying to make everyone laugh when I talk about
dead children oh yeah dead orphans
welcome to my world
baby.
So, staff have reported
seeing this little girl near the gift shop
on the staircase and on multiple floors,
always with her bouncy ball.
She is often seen by
construction workers, especially recently
when they were renovating the basement,
and the workers had to call the front desk
every morning and say that there was a girl running around
in the construction zones where she could
get hurt, and the front desk
had to be like, oh, she can't get hurt, she's dead.
Holy shit.
Don't worry. She's fine.
You're more in danger than her.
Yikes.
Children are heard all over the hotel, doing all of the creepiest things,
such as singing, humming, giggling, playing in groups, talking to each other, and touching us.
Like, us.
So, yeah.
Oh.
And then also on the third floor, that is where most of the spirits of children are the
most active. The front desk also gets complaints of kids running down the halls at night and knocking
on doors and playing basically like dash. What's the name? Ding don't don't. M was clearly a rebellious
child. I don't know much. Dash. The dash game. Well, I mean, there was no bells. I think you
just order a lot of food on door dash and that's why. I can't instinctively. Say you're wrong. You're not
wrong. I know. Yeah. So they often knock on people's doors and then run away before you see
them or maybe they're still standing there and you just can't see them. I mean, the choice is
yours. Right. So I don't know what's worse. Oh, definitely them still standing there. Never
run. Well, that's definitely worse. Actually, today we just checked into a hotel I'm not going to
name by the way in Houston. Someone's like, which one? I'm like, please. Nice to try. Someone was like,
Oh, which hotel?
Which room?
I'm not going to tell you.
But we checked in today to our hotel, and I was doing notes that were not for this, but for the future.
And there was this instance where one ghost in this hotel happens to knock on your door very loudly and nonstop until you answer it.
And, like, knocking like there's an emergency.
Like, you definitely check the door.
and then you go to the door
and either look through the people or open it and nobody's there
and so I was writing that note down
and as I finished the sentence my door
someone was banging on it that loud
and that long like knock knock knock knock knock knock
and so I got up and looked through the people
and while it was still knocking no one was there
like as I finished the sentence
it was like the most vision board thing of my life
I was like, if you bring a goddamn ghost on this tour, I swear,
because I can't handle it.
Yeah, that was like four hours ago today.
Yeah, so I'm really stoked to like go back and try to go to sleep tonight.
Anyway, that was a fun little anecdote about my life.
So these children, the spirits will also play in the lobby on the piano,
and they've been known to knock items off tables and counters.
and try to throw pillows at guests.
At least they're pillows.
They're having fun, though, it sounds like.
You could throw anything, and you're throwing pillows.
That's a very nice ghost.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, this is kind of sad.
Women hear these children the most often.
Like, they usually come forward to women.
And when women report that they've heard the spirits of children,
they always know that they were kids
because they hear children saying,
are you my mommy?
Oh.
and being called mommy.
You're saying like,
hi, mommy.
No.
But also way sad.
They're like looking for a parent.
Oh, very sad.
And we're orphans.
Terribly said.
It's very sad.
So,
let's travel back to room 501 where
the lovelorn lady
resides.
Oh, yeah.
It's 501 is one of the most haunted rooms
in the hotel, since that's where
she hanged herself, and people have
seen her walking through the halls. They've seen her sitting on their bed while they're sleeping,
of course. And they often see shadow figures walking out of their closets and television
sets, like the ring. Ah! I literally had a dream I was in the ring last night. I, listen,
all of this nightmare stuff. Just nightmares all the time. Tell them about your dream.
No, I already did. There was a lady with a bent neck and she was crawling under the bus seat.
and then M told a story about like a bent neck
and I was like, ah!
It was a whole thing you had to be there.
I was also in the ring and saw
in the same dream sequence.
And the Twilight Zone. That one was kind of fun.
Yeah.
I woke up this morning and saw Christine downstairs and I was like,
how did you sleep? And she's like, hmm, not good.
And then she just listed all of these nightmares and she was like,
yeah, all of them were together in one dream.
I woke up and really slept.
So that's the toll this job takes.
Just thinking about the ring, dreaming about the ring.
I give up a lot for you guys.
I have to deal with people knocking on my door.
To be fair, in Dallas, my hotel phone was ringing, and I picked up and no one was there.
Less creepy because someone probably got a wrong number.
We've been doing this for so long now.
We've assumed everything's a ghost.
Well, I assume everyone's a murder.
You know, you know how it goes.
Oh, yeah.
The dead woman.
Oh, yeah, let's stop talking about ourselves for a minute.
That's why I have a podcast.
So people have seen the, she's also known as the woman in white.
She is often seen also with these children, which is like kind of like a crossover.
She like adopted them.
Maybe.
That would be adorable, wouldn't it?
Yeah.
Eva, write that down.
Eva.
It's like the others, but the spinoff.
So, if you haven't seen the movie, it does make sense.
I haven't, but I was going to pretend, but.
That's fine.
I think you pretend I'm funny often, so.
Yeah, so she's also known to bring a cold breeze wherever she goes.
She will cry in your bathroom.
That's not.
That part's not.
I take it back.
Which is way inconvenient.
No.
She will also cry in your ear while you're sleeping.
She will slam the doors
and she will turn TVs and lights on and off.
The front desk attendants have had problems
getting the keys to that hotel room to ever work.
They always, like, demagnetized.
And there are reports of humming and strange light
coming out from under the door of room 501
when no one is supposedly there.
Ooh.
Ooh.
There are also reports of the phones not working in the room.
if you're in the room and your phone is called
somebody else will answer
and you don't know
like your phone has been silent the whole time
and someone later will be like who picked up the phone
that's gross
also your text won't go through
which is less scary
I mean it's still scary in this world
in 2019
in our mindset's terrifying
right
your snapchats won't load it's just
oh talk about trauma
And then there's also EVPs of Audra, the woman in white, giving intelligent responses.
For example, when asked what happened to you, a spirit box has gotten her saying both the words bathroom and rope.
Oh, no.
She has also said the word drawer on the spirit box, which draw.
What?
I heard someone say draw.
Dore.
Dore.
A drawer.
You get it.
um charades let's play that now um so she's said drawer on the spirit box and it ended up basically if people have seen that they go check the drawer and see what's in there and it's always books that have been written about her and once you've gotten to once you're like looking at the books and flipping through if you ever get to the page where it starts talking about her fiancee the spirit box will say the word rescued so it's like she's like she's
She knows.
Terrible.
Oh, that looks like a trash can right there.
So this is a bathroom.
I know you can't really tell.
The colors are kind of funky.
But it's a stall in the doors open.
You get it.
You've seen a bathroom.
I hope.
So, apparently the first floor bathroom is super duper haunted.
So one guest was actually by the pool.
This is only one anecdote, but this has happened multiple times.
One guest was by the pool and came.
in to use the bathroom on the main floor.
While she was in the stall, all the lights went out.
And this was before, like, motion-censored lights.
So all of them went out, and she, while she's still in the stall, by the way,
she heard heavy footsteps of someone wearing boots on the bathroom floor walking around
outside the stall, but she can't see any feet.
She just hears what sounds like people walking.
And then she hears heavy breathing.
Oh.
And then she hears a man say, get.
out.
No.
Honestly, like, if that were real, too, that would be fucking, even more fucking terrifying.
Oh, yeah.
God damn.
I mean, I mean, that's like, that's paranormal and true crime.
Yeah, that's like our podcast.
The ultimate terror crossover.
It's like which one is it and which am I less afraid of?
Yeah.
So she just bolted out of the stall and there was no one in the bathroom.
Oh, my God.
She ran to security and they said, oh, yeah, that's normal.
and then she had them look through surveillance
and nobody either followed her into the bathroom
or left after her.
So no one was there.
Do we know who that was?
Just a pervy ghost?
Just a pervy ghost.
Oh, all right.
All right.
There are also several hauntings in the lobby bathroom
from children because I told you those
were just running everywhere.
They like to laugh
and they like to laugh at you.
And knock on the stall while you're sitting on the toilet.
Also terrible, if it were real.
And the worst of it all.
Uh-oh.
They like to steal toilet paper.
See, so you're in for a world or hurt.
Children are just the worst sometimes, aren't they?
All right.
Very spooky, very spooky.
Rocking chairs.
Yeah, that's the spooky part.
So employees feel someone staring at them in the halls and in the alleyways,
which of course you feel someone's staring at you in alleyways.
Always. I mean, that's just part of the experience, I think.
There is a painting of a man whose eyes supposedly follow you wherever you go.
Love it.
The staff say there is a man in the corner of the laundry room that stands there and watches you do laundry.
Everyone's got a thing.
I got locked out of my hotel room doing laundry last night, so.
worse things could happen
and he also likes
to break down the new machines
so there's no reason for like brand new equipment to be
breaking down it always does
so he's also a dick
yeah he sounds like an asshole
in the restaurant
part of the hotel candles blow out
and the dishes break in cabinets for no
reason you just open
the cabinet and they're all shattered
that's so so inconvenient
I just wanted to eat my
breakfast and shatter
glass. It's a really passive
aggressive way to say, like, I want different plates
in here. Yeah. It's like,
oh no, they're broken.
Oops.
Staff members also report seeing
an old-fashioned maid and a man walking
through the guest room and then disappearing.
Sometimes they are by themselves and sometimes
they are together. So,
it's like a hot and cold relationship, I think.
Okay. Management has also said
that the spirits are not mean or harmful. They're just
jokesters.
I don't know. After that
bathroom story
between the bathroom and breaking plates
and the fact that they, Christine, you're not
going to think they're jokesters after this.
I don't, okay.
They break entire cabinets
full of wine glasses.
That ain't a jokester.
If they don't think I'm just going to drink
out of a bottle, I don't know.
Like, a nice try, dick
ghost.
You can't stop me. That's sad.
That makes me sound troubled.
They also
like I said, not just breaking down the laundry machine equipment,
but they break down just about all the equipment in the hotel.
And they also have guests leaving earlier than expected.
So I don't know why the management is saying this is funny.
Like you're losing clientele.
The doors slam shut all on their own.
And windows sound like their glass is breaking,
which is, I've never heard of that before.
Yeah, that's a new one.
They don't shatter, but they sound like they're on the verge of shattering.
And clean bedrooms will get messied.
or messy bedrooms will get cleaned.
I like that one.
Well, 50% of the time you do.
Yeah, it's like a gamble.
It's like intentionally keep your room disgusting.
I do always wonder though, like if I, if like, you know, the cleaning staff,
I wonder if you could get away with like not cleaning and being like, I clean that room.
I swear to God.
I always wonder, or like the other way, if you actually did clean the room.
I bet in a hotel.
Like, I don't know how they keep track.
Oh, I never thought about surveillance.
I don't know.
I bet if you go to a hotel that's like notoriously haunted,
you could absolutely get away with a lot of shit.
Just be like, oh, no, I definitely didn't clog the toilet.
Every time you tell a story about a ghost that drinks all the liquor,
I'm like, I don't know.
Don't charge me for that.
That's very convenient.
I'm not saying I emptied the fridge.
I'm just saying all the bottles are in my purse by accident.
So where were we?
lost my... Sorry,
it's... Classic.
This is the stuff that gets edited
out, and you guys think that we're so smooth
sailing, right?
They don't think that. Nobody thinks
that. Oh, here we are. I found it.
Don't worry. We're fine. We're fine.
Down by the beach, people also report
seeing several nuns
walking up and down the shore
during upcoming
storms.
Oh, my God.
To warn you.
That's so awful. Like, don't be me.
it's believed that the main nun that everyone sees
it's believed that that is the ghost of Sister Catherine
she was the devout nun who actually had the idea
to try and tie all the kids together
which like it didn't work but that was a smart idea
in an emergency like there's 90 children and 10 of us
what are we going to do?
Yeah that's very sad
yeah so she tried
so she's on the beach great
but now she's still protecting people
technically. At least she gets to walk on the beach
every day.
Only when it's stormy out.
Forgot that tiny detail.
So this is the beach
I was telling you you would say eventually.
Oh, beautiful.
Okay, okay, okay.
And a postcard.
I see you here.
Galveston, wherever we are.
It's Texas's
finest
seaside resort hotel.
Beautiful.
So the last story I have is basically one giant quote.
Okay.
It's from a guy named Timmy.
Is that like your cousin or something?
Yeah, Timmy.
That guy.
He's always around there.
Good old Timothy.
So Timmy, I got this from a news article.
I mean, all these people did do a lot of things at this hotel.
Remember, they were all like, what?
The hotel.
Yeah.
You're right.
I know, Timmy, for real.
I'm not going to judge it.
So, this guy named Timmy, and I don't know anything else about him,
is that he was staying in room 507, which shares a wall with 505,
which happens to be one of the most haunted rooms.
So this whole thing is now one big quote, but it's a long one.
So bear with me.
Buckle up.
Buckle up.
No, we don't do this again.
Okay.
We invented a phrase in an upcoming episode, and we keep saying it,
and no one gets it because we haven't released the episode yet.
so it's just like an inside joke that we think we all have but you don't you'll figure it out one day
it's called knuckle and buckle yeah we invented it it's hilarious isn't it trademarked trademark it means
like white knuckle it's like because i was white knuckling she says it listen coming up in the future
you're going to get a really wildly fucked up story from christine oh yeah and uh and i was telling her
i was like white knuckling listening to it and i was like oh i'm buckled up and white knuckle
Knuckle and buckle.
But so now it's become a thing that we say when we're not performing.
And so now we just, now we've accidentally said it while we were on stage.
And you know everyone stared at us like, what the fuck are you talking about?
It's extra funny when we explain it for five minutes.
Right.
That makes it, that's when you know a joke is like really good.
Whoopsies.
So, oh yeah, back to Timmy.
His story is very important.
Okay, okay, okay.
So this is a whole, whole quote.
Okay.
I felt so he was in
room 507
I felt stared at the whole time
no matter where I was in the room
there was always someone watching me from behind
I read it I read a book in bed
for a half an hour before I fell asleep
I woke up in the middle of the night to a bizarre sound
almost as if someone were wearing a dress
and walking over leaves it had a swish swish sound
that's a very specific
I thought about making that like me and that's why we draw and I was like
I can't imagine
a swish over leaves
Anything beyond like basketball nets getting sent to me.
That's a good point.
I turned on the lamp beside me,
but I couldn't see anything amiss in the room.
The window was shut, the air conditioning unit was off,
everything seemed fine.
I figured it must have been someone in the hallway
walking past my door,
so I turned off the light and fell back asleep.
A little while later, I woke up to the same sound,
but it sounded like it was right beside me in my room.
When I turned on the light,
I was shocked to see a woman in my room.
she had messy blonde hair
and a thin cotton dress on
at first nothing seemed
unnatural about her
famous last words
except she was in my bedroom
in the middle of the night
when I first saw her
I thought I had missed the fact
that maybe I had one of those connecting rooms
and she had come into my room by mistake
maybe even on a dare
valid on a dare
that's a weird
he was given her every benefit of the day
he was
anything beyond she's dead
but after a second
I registered that the woman
seemed to lift off the floor a couple feet from me
she had her head tilted back
and shrieked in pain
as she continued levitating
I watched in horror
as she descended back onto her feet
and seemed to resume a calm
expression. So I was like,
Ra!
In case you had trouble picturing.
In case I was, in case Timmy wasn't a word smith.
Yeah.
I was friends with Timmy. You have to be careful.
I don't know where Timmy is in the world, so.
Timmy are doing a great job so far.
Oh, yeah, so she's calm again.
Right, right, right.
I was about to ask if she was all right.
no obviously not
when she lifted off the ground again
and repeated the same process of screaming
and then coming back to the ground fine
what
when she lifted again
he's still in this fucking room
he's like it's probably still truth or dare
she's probably still playing truth or dare
that's the only thing that makes sense
her friends are underneath her light as a feather
Light as a feather.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was about to ask if she was all right.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
She's floating again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I could tell she was being lifted up this time
and being held by her neck
as if there was an invisible rope
wrapped around her throat.
This girl was being hanged over and over again
in my hotel room in Galveston.
No.
Was that a happy way to end it?
Because the ends.
God damn.
We're sorry.
Thanks, Timmy.
Thanks, I guess, Timmy.
Thanks.
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oh good okay let's settle in
settle in knuckle and buckle
knuckle and buckle baby
okay you guys I've got a wild one for you today
I'm excited about this one
this is actually Blaze's suggestion so thanks to Blaze
yeah what a good boy
surprises me all the time because he seems so not into it, but he's got all the info.
Oh, he came at me in five seconds with this suggestion.
This is the story of the astronaut Lisa Nowak.
Can you hit next?
Can you hit next?
Oh, yeah, sorry.
I was like, I don't know who that is.
There she is.
You don't know who she is?
Wow, this is a wild story.
I was hoping you didn't know.
Okay.
Well, you hoped, right.
knuckle and buckle.
We're trying to make it a thing.
Okay.
Lisa Nowak.
Don't worry, I did it earlier.
Okay.
Lisa Noak was born Lisa Marie Caputo in Rockville, Maryland on May 10th,
1963.
Don't worry, she comes to Houston later.
When she was six, Lisa watched the Apollo moon landings
and knew then that she wanted to be an astronaut.
Oh, I love it.
As she grew up, she followed the space.
Shuttle program, particularly the introduction of female astronauts.
Yeah.
It's just so weird to think that there was like an introduction of female astronauts.
Right.
Okay.
A woman working?
What?
In 1985, she received her bachelor's in aerospace engineering from the United States Naval Academy.
Same.
I did the opposite of whatever that is.
And then in 1987, she became a naval flight officer before going on to earn both.
Okay, bear with me, because I'm just going to say a lot of words right now.
Okay.
A master's in aeronautical engineering and a degree in aeronautical and astronomical engineering from the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California.
Woo!
She is a smart cookie.
She is a power woman.
I love it.
Okay.
So, in, uh, she, she, come on.
Don't spoil it.
Look, you know I don't know what's going to happen.
I know, that's true.
Let me love it for five seconds.
She, okay, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, she received a number of words on the Navy
and logged over 1,500 hours of flight
and over 30 different aircrafts.
In 1988, she married a man named Richard Noak,
who was a classmate at the U.S. Naval Academy
and Naval Flight School, and they had three children together.
So in 1996, her childhood dreamed,
came true and she was selected by NASA
to join the NASA Astronaut Corps at Johnson Space Center
right here in Houston.
There it is.
So cool. So cool.
It is so cool.
I don't have any better descriptor for it than that.
Just so cool.
Just a childhood dream of becoming an astronaut
and it happened.
This is so cool. I don't know.
No, I used to want to be an astronaut.
Well, you also wanted to be a clown, but...
One of those things came true.
You did one of those things.
And it wasn't get an aeronautical engineering degree.
Oh, boy.
She went to space on July 4th, 2006, a.k.a. America's birthday.
Okay, so let's rewind. So in 2003, Lisa's best friend, fellow astronaut Laurel Clark, was killed in the Columbia.
Oh, oops, this gets sad.
Was killed in the Columbia disaster of 2003.
and she actually helped to take care of Laurel's family after her death
and had that kind of heavy loss hanging over her
in the years afterward for obvious reasons.
But so she's gearing up for her own space mission in 2006
and it's highly publicized, A, because of the Columbia tragedy
and B, you know, because she's a female astronaut,
this is like a big deal in the media,
and her friend's death is still, you know, kind of looming in her life
and the pressure of raising her own children
plus helping raise Laurel's child.
and so the stress basically, according to psychologists, started getting to her.
For lack of a better phrase.
Sure.
Yes.
So during this time, Lisa and her husband began having arguments so loud and terrible that neighbors started noticing.
Dishes were breaking.
They were screaming.
Safe to say, the relationship was under tremendous strain.
Right, right.
Things were not going well.
And it's around this time that Lisa meets fellow astronaut Captain Bill O'Flein.
So, uh-oh, is right.
So they trained together in Canada, M's homeland, and begin an affair.
Ooh, saucy.
O'Fline had just gotten divorced, but she was technically still married, although separated.
So to add all to the stress, blip, that's not it, words.
Listen, English isn't my first language, so sometimes I struggle with reading.
Okay.
That's fine.
We love you.
Thank you.
I love you too.
Okay.
So add to, oh, okay, I get what I was going for.
So add to Oliver's stress this affair, right, she's having.
And the two of them are technically together for about two years before O'Fline kind of started to distance himself and break it off with her.
So O'Fline, who by the way, calls himself Billy O.
Oh.
Yep.
Was at a house party in Orlando in November when he meets an attractive single 29-year-old
Air Force captain named Colleen Shipman.
So they form an instant connection and fall for each other.
And when Billy goes to space the next month,
Colleen is at the launch pad with his family to see him off.
he brings with him in space a picture of her
a charm necklace, her charm necklace
he's like totally smitten with her
while he's in space he actually calls her and leaves a voicemail
that's romantic as shit I know
and she was like interviewed and she was like
yeah the phone rang this is so me she's like the phone ring
and I didn't recognize the number so I was like I'm not answering that
guys all those numbers we're all ignoring right now
might be from space.
It's space calling
So he literally called her from space,
which I was like, ooh, you can't beat that.
No.
You literally can't beat that.
Okay.
Hmm, where were we?
Okay.
We were romanticizing this phone call from space.
Right.
Okay, so, he calls her, leaves a voicemail.
It was good she didn't answer because they could play the voicemail.
It was cool to hear it, like a voicemail from space.
Does it say, like, I'm in space?
Yeah.
Well, you know, I'm just pit stop.
Pit stop at Mars.
Yeah.
That's how space works, I think.
So, okay.
Also, while he's in space, which I didn't know this is the thing.
They were exchanging racy emails.
You can do that in space.
I love this story, by the way.
Now I want to be an astronaut.
This is cool.
Maybe that's kind of why I wanted to be an astronaut.
I had, there was some whimsy too.
I sure hope not.
Oh, wait, no, not in a...
Just keep going.
Okay.
I meant just email you in general from space.
You can explain it if you want.
I don't.
I mean, it's fine.
Never mind.
Okay.
Anyway, they're completely in love.
Leave it to humans to be like sexting each other in space.
Oh, there he is.
Wait, don't go yet.
There's other things I want to say first.
There's Billy O, look at him.
Okay.
Nobody's liking Billio.
Okay.
So, they're completely in love.
La, yada, yada, yada.
But there is a slight problem.
Lisa, as far as we can tell, was still in the picture,
which is maybe why nobody likes Billy O.
It is unclear whether he broke up with her before or after his space mission.
But I'll tell you what we do know,
and that is that during this time,
she writes a letter to Billy's parents saying,
I love him more than I knew possible.
Thank you for being there for me and us.
So at the very least, we know she took the relationship very seriously.
She was in contact with his parents.
So seemingly things are a little iffy as to the timeline of this.
I see.
Then at some point, while Billy is still in space,
Lisa, who had a key to Billy's apartment, lets herself in.
She goes through his computer and stumbles upon these so-called racy emails between him and calling.
More like spacey emails.
Oh, my gosh.
I quit.
My kids are going to hate me.
Yeah.
And I want to take a quick moment to address your anus.
No.
I didn't know where we were going.
I would like to take a moment to address a multitude.
I couldn't include them all here.
Just a multitude of fun phrases people sent me.
Number one is obviously, let me see Uranus,
I got that a lot in the submissions.
Number two, can I dock my rocket at your space station?
And arguably the most uncomfortable one of all.
I want to explore your black hole.
You guys are so dirty.
And also a couple days ago, another one of our, and that's why we draws,
or Christine's was 1800s dick pick.
So, like, we have just been flooded with peen lately.
Yeah.
A lot, poor Eva, she did not know that was, like, a job descriptor.
No.
The fact that we often say to her, don't sue us someday, we're joking, but we're not joking.
It's really concerning.
We're like, please just keep everything as a great.
No, I'm just kidding.
Okay, so she stumbles upon these racy emails,
and she also stumbles upon a flight itinerary.
It stumbles upon she's literally going through his emails.
Oh, so she's still digging through his emails.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
I see, okay, yes.
Between the uranus thing, I know we got lost, but yes,
she's still in the apartment looking through his emails.
So it turns out, Billy and Colleen had a romantic weekend in Houston planned.
The most romantic place I've heard.
It was on that trip
that Billy told Colleen he loved her
although he also did another thing
while they were in the throes of fashion
he called her Lisa
Oh no
Oh no
But Colleen has no clue who Lisa is
So at that point she's like
That's weird
Is that your ex? And he's like
Yeah sorry and then they brush it off
Oh my gosh
This is just like
spiraling into chaos
us this story, right? Okay. So she doesn't know who Lisa is, right? So she's like,
oh, that wasn't good, but, you know, we're going to move past it because they are in live.
So soon after that, he tells Colleen, you know what, I had a talk with Lisa. I told her we're
better off his friends and I'm going to be exclusive with you, Colleen. And so he's like,
she took that really well. Don't worry. We're done. That was not the case. He's
Billy O was full of baloney.
Sounds like it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It didn't help that.
Right around this time, Lisa and her husband
officially filed for divorce.
So Lisa finds out right as she and her husband
are divorcing that Billy is going to leave her for
Colleen exclusively, and she really
handles it the opposite of, well.
Oh, boy.
Which I guess is just bad.
I don't know.
I think that's the definition, yeah.
Sure.
So Lisa, this is where we get into it.
So Lisa drives from Houston to Orlando International Airport.
At the time of these notes, which was, I don't know, two weeks ago, I didn't write it down,
so I don't know why I decided to tell you at the time of these notes.
It sounded fancy.
At the time of these notes, the distance was 13 hours and 38 minutes from Houston to Orlando.
So she drove that entire distance in one go, February 4th through 5th, 2007.
And this is a 900-mile trip.
Oh, my God.
A very long drive.
Yes.
All right.
Let's not shout about the story, because I'm telling it.
Okay.
So with her, if you don't think I'm going to include that, then, I mean, come on.
You have no faith in me.
Okay. So with her, she has. Ready?
Yeah.
Latex gloves, a black wig, a gun with ammunition, a pepper spray, a hooded tan trench coat,
a two-pound drilling hammer, black gloves, rubber tubing, plastic garbage bags,
approximately $585 in cash, U.S., her computer, an 8-inch folding knife,
and Colleen's fly information as well as directions to her house.
Oh, my God. So a full-blown kit.
Yeah. Like a little bit overboard kit.
Like, not even the... Right, like anything can happen.
More than the essentials.
Wow. Okay. So she's committed.
It's rough.
Got it.
She gets to Orlando International Airport.
The flight is supposed to land at 1 a.m.
She waits for about an hour in the baggage claim watching as Colleen waits for her bag.
Oh, by the way, this is on security footage. It's very creepy.
You can see her like behind a pole.
Ew.
Watching Colleen wait for her bag.
It's very, very, very disturbing.
Yeah.
And then you see her go into the bathroom of the airport
and change into a disguise,
which was her trench coat and the wig she brought.
I don't know what.
I guess it's funny.
I don't know.
And she follows Colleen onto the shuttle
to the airport parking garage.
And remember it's like two in the morning at this point,
so very dark out.
And by this point, Colleen has actually noticed her.
So she's like, someone's following me.
this woman is eyeing me
and then as they get to the actual parking lot
Lisa follows her off the shuttle
and the shuttle drives away and Colleen is like
oh fuck
like she's definitely
we're in this parking lot alone now
so Colleen starts walking to her car
faster and faster she starts basically running
manages to jump in the driver's seat
and at the second she shuts the door
Lisa appears and begins to bang on the window
and pull on the handle.
So she literally jumped at,
like the nightmare version of this
being chased down.
So she managed to get herself into the car.
Keep in mind, Colleen still has no clue
who this person is, right?
So she's like, this person.
Right, just a random woman.
Right, she's just a random woman.
You know, she must be troubled
or, like, there's no reason,
no godly reason why this woman should be following her.
So Lisa is slapping on the window,
trying to open the car door,
and then she kind of changes her tune
and she starts asking for a ride and crying and saying,
like, I don't have, like, I need help, I need help, you know.
And so Colleen, like, rolls the window down a crack to be like,
are you in trouble?
Do you need me to call somebody?
And the second the windows rolled down a couple inches,
Lisa pulls out her pepper spray and sprays Colleen directly in the face through the window.
All right.
Oh, rough, man.
Okay.
So somehow Colleen manages to put the car and drive.
Wow.
And, like, kind of drive to the main area where she sees a bus driver and is yelling for help.
And so this bus driver runs over.
He calls the police from his shuttle.
And when the police arrive, they find Lisa stuffing her trench coat and wig into a trash can.
Oh, that's not sketchy.
Very subtle.
And her loaded BB gun, she was also, like, dumping into a dumpster.
So, Lisa is obviously arrested on charges of attempted kidnapping battery, attempted vehicle burglary with battery and destruction of evidence for that trench coat she was shoving into the trash can.
Oh, boy.
So, she goes to airport jail.
Sounds like she should.
And she's actually, fun fact.
Woo!
I love a good fun fact.
The first U.S. astronaut ever to be arrested.
Well, good for her.
Let alone for a felony.
So, obviously, the media immediately jumps on this, right?
So virtually instantly, you know, she's this disgraced astronaut.
She's this young, beautiful woman.
Like, this is just, the media's eating this up.
So police make the connection pretty quickly between Colleen and Lisa.
and that connection is
Billy O
in case you weren't following
I was like
wait what was it again
oh yeah
Billy O
and Colleen's like
oh I've been dating him for three months
and meanwhile Lisa admits
that she had been involved with him as well
but she's kind of playing it as like
oh yeah like I knew him
and they were like you can't really
like you're literally spraying
his girlfriend in the face of pepper spray
right right
Um, I'm familiar.
Like, you're wearing a wig.
Right.
I don't know.
I'm not saying I know much.
I'm just saying I know some.
It's just funny.
It's just a coincidence.
So she admits that she knows Billio.
But she says she had no plan.
Like, she didn't plan this out.
All she wanted was for Colleen to talk to her.
She's not very convincing.
I mean, after that kit.
They literally found that whole.
kitten caboodle in her car.
Right. There's actually a
transcript of her interview with
the airport police where she explains that she
pepper sprayed Colleen because she
just wanted her to sit still.
Oh my God.
Wow. That's just so disturbing.
That's just the worst.
Oh!
Oh, boy.
Oh, well, in that case, I mean, what?
Okay.
What are they supposed to say? Oh, that makes
Oh, we didn't know. Okay. But anyway, the stuff in her car obviously says otherwise.
Anyway, she also had a precise trip log, a receipt using an alias, a map of the airport, a shuttle bus schedule, and a hand-drawn diagram of Colleen's neighborhood.
So, there's like no talking your way out of this, basically.
But, whof.
Okay.
Sorry, keep going.
I know, it's just a lot.
I'm sorry.
I really like, the story started with me really respecting it.
It's just, I know it's a lot.
I know it's a lot.
I know it's a lot.
So, only seven months after her space mission,
Lisa Noak spends her first night in jail.
She pleads not guilty and is released into protective custody
of actually a pair of astronauts sent by NASA.
What?
They sent, because, you know, she's, like, part of the government, so they send to NASA astronauts.
Okay.
So weird.
It made sense on TV.
I mean, I believe you.
I just feel like, I don't know.
At this point, I believe in anything you're saying.
Everything sounds dumber when I say it out loud.
Oh, boy.
Thanks for coming here, guys.
Oh, that was the most lukewarm applause I ever heard.
Okay.
Thank you.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to pander, except I did.
Okay, so that-da-da.
Meanwhile, Colleen receives a military order forbidding her,
so Colleen, the one who was attacked,
receives a military order forbidding her from contacting Billy,
so she couldn't see him for two weeks after the incident.
And one of the most famous aspects of this case
that everyone wants me to talk about,
that M doesn't know, but everyone knows,
is the fact that police.
said Lisa wore adult diapers the whole drive
and that's not
that's not funny and that is what she became famous for
she became presumably
so she didn't have to take any pit stops
you know she drove the whole
13 hours. Oh that makes it funny I thought she had like an actual
no oh my god
but okay again dedicated
yeah
I mean gross
but you can call her a lot of things
But you can't call her not dedicate.
Whatever the opposite of dedicated is.
Yikes.
Okay.
Stick to the notes, Christine.
Okay.
So it became national news, okay, that police said there were diapers in her car.
She became a laughing stock.
Every late night show, you know, is making fun of her.
Despite herself, she would deny the allegations, but the media was like,
fucking hell, we don't care.
Like, this is great.
This is gold.
So a retired astronaut named Susan Kilrain
does confirm that astronauts use adult diapers during training
so it stands to reason that it is something
she would know to do and might have actually done.
But Lisa's lawyer said, surprise,
that the diapers found in her car were for her kids.
So, huh, up to you.
The police actually did not have any diapers and evidence,
but there is a mention in an affidavit
that Lisa admitted she urinated in,
diaper so she did not need to stop on her way
to Orlando. So I think
that's pretty tying as far as I'm concerned.
I was willing to hear her out, but
after I heard that she literally admitted
to it while in
police custody, I was like, well, why
would you say that? Right, right, right.
All right. So,
that's the famous part. Right.
I hear you. I hear you. Either way,
this did not stop the media from going absolutely
ballistic. Lisa's attorney
pursued a defense of temporary insanity
on a reduced charge of attempted kidnapping.
And when Lisa finally spoke publicly,
she apologized to Colleen and asked the media
to stop invading her life.
She also made a court-ordered apology to Colleen
during the trial, and because it was court-ordered,
it didn't strike anyone as particularly sincere.
Right, right.
Colleen herself was like, yeah,
it was really uncomfortable, and nobody bought it.
So there's that.
Lisa did plead guilty to burglary and battery
and was let off relatively easy
with two days in Orange County Jail,
which I imagine is pretty nice.
As far as jails go, Orange County Jail, you know.
Right.
And one year of supervised probation.
So NASA ended her career as an astronaut.
Did they?
Why?
You know, they sent those two astronauts,
but that wasn't enough, I guess.
And a naval administrative panel of three admirals
voted to recommend she be separated from the U.S. Navy
with an other than honorable discharge,
and that her rank be reduced from captain to commander,
although she still received the full pay and benefits of the commander rank.
Oh my gosh.
So Bill, Billy O, you know our friend.
You know.
I remember him, Billy O.
Remember?
He retired in 08, and only a month after the crime,
Colleen's commander told her, this is actually very sad,
that she was no longer qualified to work in her position
and was relegated basically
to secretarial duties for the rest of her career
which is just
like
because they were like
you know she was stirring up too much drama
in the media and
that's rough
and it was kind of terrible because
you know Lisa got so much
obviously media attention but Colleen was never
nobody ever thought about her in this whole
situation right right right right messed up
however some good news
maybe did come out of this
Colleen and Billy O
moved to his home state of Alaska
and the two of them got married.
Oh, goody.
And are still together to this day with a son named Junior.
So that's cute.
Oh, that's a lucky kid.
So NOAC herself, she's now 54.
She has all but vanished from public life.
Her oldest son just turned 25.
Her twin daughters are now 16.
She lives in a modest home in Texas.
works in the private sector now.
She does not give interviews, so don't even try.
And she has tried to put the past behind her.
Despite the tough times in her past,
her attorney says that she is in a better place and is doing well.
But it is a mystery as to what's actually happening.
In 2018, can you hit next?
There's Natalie Portman.
In 2018,
I was like, she looks familiar.
Pre-production began on a film called
Lucy in the sky based on the events of the
Lisa Nowak case, which
new news
with Natalie Portman expected to star
as Lucy Cola,
which is a fictionalized version
of Lisa Nowak.
Ooh. Yeah.
And so that's going to come out soon
so we can all go see that together.
That'll be fun.
And that is the story
of Houston's Lisa Nowak.
Woo!
Thank you guys.
Oh, I got a stare to go.
Thank you.
Oh, my goodness.
Thank you guys.
I will say I was very nervous to cover that one.
I didn't know how, like, what local sentiment was,
and I know there's a lot of drama around it,
and it's more recent than usually what I do.
So thank you for bearing with me, and hearing me out.
Thank you.
Thank you guys so much for having us, Houston.
Wow.
You looked at me like I said the wrong sitting
and I was like, oh, shit.
No, I'm done. I'm coasting. I'm just watching.
Well, we do have one more thing for you, but before I do that,
I do want to say that I'm very grateful for that, you guys.
Oh, I love this song.
What's going on?
And I wrote you that song.
That wasn't the thing I had planned.
No, I just want to say thank you for having us.
And, I mean, in the last two years, it's been a whirlwind.
a whirlwind and the in two days is our the anniversary of me asking christine to start a podcast
with me um i mean to be fair i said no at first but then blaze said we should probably rethink
that and i said yeah ultimately i made the right choice so yeah so uh it's been a very very very
very wild last two years, but I, because you guys care so much about us, we're able to do this.
Yeah, thank you guys.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
And that's why we drink.
