And That's Why We Drink - E483 Caterpillar Surprises and Tamagotchi Funerals

Episode Date: May 17, 2026

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Oh, Christine. Christine. Yes. I don't know. It's a lot of breath noises today. It's having a weird day. I don't know. I'm in like a funk for the last like two days.

So I don't really, I don't know. I want to, I'm happy to be here, but I'm also like, like, I just kind of feel like silly putty. You know what I mean? I totally get that. You know, yesterday I said I was walking around. feeling like a bruise. I love that. I mean,

I'm so sorry. Yeah, no, thank you. I loved it too. I was like, wow, that's so poetic of me.

If I were 16 and saw them in someone Zanga, I'd be like they're going places. That's why we never met as high schoolers. It would have been really ugly for everybody. It would have been, you would have been too powerful because I would have done something bad. Like,

we would have like made a fake my space. Yeah. Now that's going to be my new emo hit single. Can you sign my bruise? Please. That's fucking insane. I'm writing that down. Eva, write that down, please.

It's too good to waste. That does feel like someone's like hidden secret track that never made it on the album. It's good. It shouldn't be hidden. We should bring it to the surface. Like a bruise. Can, oh my God. Hold on.

Hold that thought. This magic is flowing. Can you sign my bruise? I'm going to find this tomorrow and be like, what the fuck is going on? I'd feel like you're only going to find that when you're already like deliriously sick or something. I'd be like, am I even reading this, right? Like, who'd? I'd be like, please, why did you write this to me? Yeah.

Well, I'm sorry you feel like a bruise. Did anything cause that or you just kind of- Oh, yeah, everything, you know? Okay. Yeah. You know, you know when everything's just like punching you in the face and you're like, wait, that's cool. So.

Yeah, I do. Yeah. But a bruise is a perfect way to describe that. You know, you're just like kind of overly sensitive. Like, things just kind of hurt a little more that day everywhere, you know? I think I've just yeah I mean I think mine has been more like I feel like a bruise on the inside but on the outside I've been like just like sensory nightmare like every sound is too loud now yeah like Allison today like I was so mean to her and she's gone now so I can't

apologize yet but literally she was like just trying to leave the house but she wasn't doing it fast enough for me and I was like can you leave I was so mean I like you sound like Leona talking to my mom you can leave now And I wasn't trying to be mean. I was just like, I was overwhelmed. And I was like, once she's gone, some of the noises will be gone. And then it'll be better. I think we can all relate to that.

It's like you just kind of snap. Like it's like there's something has to give, you know? Yeah. And luckily, she looked at me and was like, it's time I leave. She's like, she's like, actually I'd rather do nothing more than leave. Goodbye. Yeah. But no, it just, it's a weird.

I don't know what's going on. Maybe it's just like, I don't know. It feels like. Listen, Uranus is in Gemini. Things are topsy-turvy. It's a wild time. Well, is that why you drink, though? Is it Allison's and her delayed departure?

Or is it just the general malaise? I think the general malaise. Because part of me is like, maybe I just need to leave the house. But when I leave the house, I'm like, oh, I'd rather just be home. Maybe I'm depressed. Then you're in the June bloom. Yeah, I was going to say, usually that kind of, yeah, points to something. One of the things that made me happy this week, though, to try to keep it happy.

Oh, and then my tomagachi died as I told you yesterday or two days ago or whatever. Oh, yeah. It was my longest streak I've had with one. I bought a new one. Do they die forever? You can't like reset them? So I did because I think I'm depressed. I think you could probably,

I think the battery just died. And I was so lazy. I just bought another one. Oh, okay, okay. Where's the other one? Is it in a drawer? Is it like out the window? I buried her in my drawer.

Oh. And then I was just like, I thought you meant you literally buried her. That took me a second to understand that you are not literally saying you buried her. No, I think it was, Okay. I was getting bored of her look. And so I just needed a new look. So you replaced your own child.

Yeah. But then the last one was such a long streak. This is another thing that I think comes with the like, it's like the mild symptoms of disinterest or depression or whatever it would be. But I got a new time. I got you. I got you. I was like, but the other one I just spent so much time on. Like now I don't really want to touch this one. Like I just have. Oh, wow. You do sound like Leicelyonna today. Yeah. I think I'm just feeling whiny. You know? Yeah. I get it. I mean, especially with the sensory stuff, you know, that'll push you over the edge. Yeah, I was really proud of myself that I kept it going for so long. Well, good for you. I mean, don't let that streak be diminished, you know? I'll try. Anyway, I don't know. I'm feeling.

What are you drinking? Is there peppy, something peppy you got? No, it's just water. Shit, shit. But I was going to say, the thing that makes me happy is that yesterday I went to a coffee shop and the cashier there, which, by the way, shout out three sisters coffee. They're actually, they're listeners of the show. And you can say they're actually three sisters. I was like, whoa. There are actually three sisters. But they're, they're like one of my favorite coffee shops in the area. And I went there and whoever their cashier was that day,

they were so excited. Every person who was like up next and paying for something, I guess like the local paper had just come out. And they were like, oh wait, can I read your horoscope to you? And every person got their horoscope read to them when they were paying. Oh, I love that. Oh, my gosh. that's so fun. This energy was exactly what I needed. And then it ended up turning into like it was very like it felt very small town because it made everybody in the coffee shop talk about like their sign and like what their horoscope said. And then you could hear like the baristas and the people sitting down.

I'll be like, well, what's your big three? Well, what's your big three? It was very LA. And then you all ended up on overheard L.A. is where I was going next. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.

Definitely on Instagram. Yeah. Anyway, that's the reason why I drink this week. But why do you drink Christine? Oh, I love that. Well, well, you have water. I actually got myself, this is my new thing. Okay, I've got myself a little macha.

Love. I'm in the new, I'm in the macho zone finally. It took me like several years to actually try it and get into it. But you're not there yet. I mean, I'm trying to lower my caffeine intake. So the coffee, you know, I'm trying to kind of do less coffee in the afternoon. So let me just open this so it's not a sound nightmare for everybody. Hold on.

Cincinnati or Kentucky still has a good old plastic, you know. Everything's still really hard. core plastic over here. You don't have the sugar cane straws yet. We still got plastic bags in grocery stores. I didn't, we canceled that. I think in the last couple months, I think LA is now all paper. I think they canceled that a long time ago. Did they? In the last few weeks, I've noticed.

Oh, I see. Okay. Well, I think the thing was that you had to pay for them. We still have free plastic bags. Like, they just like load them up and you get like six bags with one thing of eggs in it. And I'm like, okay, thank. Thanks. Anyway, why do I drink this week? Well, you know, I'm really excited about this. We don't often do sort of like immersive sponsors, but no CD is so much more to me than just a sponsor. They are a really important service for people who suffer with OCD, which is kind of what we're discussing today.

Not kind of. It is literally what we're discussing today. And they reached out and said, hey, we'd love to do some, like a little segment. it and I said, oh my gosh, like normally that kind of doesn't flow with the show, but like, hello, this is perfect. We talk about these things anyway. And I'm just such a fan of what they do that I thought this was perfect. And I thought I would just, you know, say this week I drink because OCD is really, really,

really, really tough. And it's like when you're in those places where things are even harder, like you're saying, like, the general, like, malaise or just the day-to-day stress, then like OCDs. OCD finds the vulnerable spots and like rears its ugly head, at least for me. And that's like my experience. And so interestingly, one of the reasons this podcast even got started is because I had OCD, I didn't know this. I had not been diagnosed.

Wait, it was my first time hearing this, I think. So I really wasn't. So the, I guess it's sort of tangential. But what I mean to say is that my interest in true crime sort of began as a result of my OCD because I would fixate on true crime as this sort of control, right? Like I would watch all this true crime and consume all this true crime media and say, okay, well, the more I understand this, the less likely it'll happen to me. Like I had this very, and I don't talk about that often on the show,

but that is actually what my therapist back in 2018. So the year after we started the show, my therapist was like, I'm going to suggest something gently. And it sounds a lot like maybe you are exhibiting something. signs of OCD and I said, well, that doesn't make sense because, you know, I mean, OCD for us growing up was like Adrian Monk, you know? Like the extreme, you know, the stereotype, all that. The tidiness, the cleanliness, the washing the hands, the checking the stove. And those are things that people do, right? Yeah. I feel like a lot of us grew up thinking like OCD was kind of like the butt of a joke if you were doing something a little like overzealous or whatever.

Right. And it became like kind of just a part of the vernacular to say like, I'm so OCD. know, and we all kind of have seen that happen. But in real life, it's actually just so much scarier. Like, it's so much internal happening that you don't necessarily realize, like, how, how damaging it can be until you start, like, what we're unpacking it. Yeah. If you feel comfortable. Of course. What, like, what were the signs that were obvious enough to your therapist in 2018? Oh, yeah. Okay. I love this. So that's a great question because I really fodder on it. I was like, I don't think that makes sense. Like, I don't. have OCD and she said, okay, you know, we'll talk about it. But she had actually done her

dissertation on very specific signs of OCD. So if anyone knew, it was her. She was like, we'll bring this. She's like, let me bring my PhD along. Yeah. Circle back. Um, but basically, she asked if there were ever times that I took actions that fell out of my control, sort of like compulsions, because I felt that they would make some sort of difference, you know, like exhibit a control over my life somehow. So for example, when I was little, I would picture this is trigger warning for the whole show, but like specifically for, for intrusive thoughts, I would picture my mom every time she would go to the grocery store and I would watch my brother and sister.

I would envision her dying in a really horrible fiery car wreck because if I did that very viscerally and really believed it, then she would come home safely. And like the worst possible, you know, fun little trap I invented because then of course she'd come home and I'd go, excellent. I saved her. I mean, I started this one was like six or no, four actually. Yeah.

And that just makes you think like, well, the last time I actually did save her. So now I have to keep doing it. It's magical thinking. And then you start kind of, you build patterns and your brain is just trying to find like structure and safety. And so it goes, okay,

well, you know, if you tap the drawer every time you close it, like you'll be. And you don't necessarily even consciously realize it, right? So it's like, oh, I have to turn the lights switch off six times to know that I turned off the light.

or, you know, I used to check, as you know, under every bed and inside every closet for murderers, because if I didn't, then I would get murdered. And I was, like, so sure of it that, like, at hotels, I would be, I mean, I found lemon this way. This is literally how I found. Oh, my God, how did I not think to bring lemon into the equation? That's literally how I found lemon was through my OCD. I know. I remember.

Wow. But at the time, I, it's also, it's an, I don't know if I'm really saying anything all that profound here, but sometimes, I guess, OCD can. look like signs that other people will happily excuse away because it's, it justified by the environment. Like, yeah, we're all staying in a weird Airbnb. Like, I'm not going to judge you for looking in the closets. And so that it probably affirms you even more, especially with the true crime, right? So then I would dig into the true crime and then I would say, okay, if I, I mean, this is one of the worst ones. This is the one where my therapist said we need to work on this,

which is where exposure and response prevention comes in, which is what no CD specializes in. And ERP therapy really saved me because I was doing so much true crime research at that point and working a full-time job. And I told her, I've never said this before on the show, but it's true, the biggest, the biggest sticking point for me at the time that was almost like, it was like activating all my autoimmune stuff. Like I was so sick. What I did was every time I researched a story, I would envision myself as the victim or the family member of the victim. And I would, like I did with my mom when she was young, I would envision the entire thing, like as if this were to happen to Blaze or my mom or my child or you know and so told on you yeah yeah and it was like every story I would have to like

and I would tell her well that's that's that's empathy and she would be like no that's you know it's it's something beyond that like you're telling yourself it's empathy you're you're making it makes sense in your own head but in reality like why do you do that and we got to the core of it and it was that I thought well if I know all the ways that someone can be harmed I can avoid all of the ways that someone can be harmed and it like which is how so many women especially get into crime by the way. Like that's very common. It is like a control thing, right? That's at least what I believe. Yeah, 100%. And so it really wrapped up. And that became as I recognized it and was able to like pull away and realize like, oh, that magical thinking isn't real. You can appreciate a story and empathize with a story without

like putting yourself in the story. In fact, I think that almost takes away from the story, right? That just became almost a turning point for me. Well, no, it did become a turning point for me. And I've worked on my OCD ever since and it really opened up avenues to understand my anxiety, my depression. I think a lot of that was like they're all very closely related. And so anyway, I've just loved no CD for as many years as I've known it, which is several. And it's, it's just a really cool resource. So if you do know anyone who may be going through this or if you're hearing this and going, oh boy, that sounds familiar, you know, just check in a no CD. It's a really, really open, safe environment.

It's very professional and they, they, they, they know what they're doing. And not every therapist necessarily is experienced in that way. So we love no CDE. We're so thankful for them. And I'm just really, uh, this was one of my like very, I just was like, I'm in, I'm in, sign me up, you know, so. Perfect. Perfect.

Well, I'm, I'm glad you're doing better and not suffering in silence. It sounds like you didn't even know you were suffering. That's right. That's the crazy. part is so much of it is internal that you don't even realize. And then when you start saying it out loud, you're like, other, do other people? And then you, yeah, that's when it kind of becomes more of like community. I know the ladies and tangents, gals have talked about OCD a lot. And of course, I went to Jerry's Bacheloret and like, everyone was like, oh my God, what type of OCD do you have? You know, I mean, I originally only thought you had the like the tapping on the on the Google drive. But that's, oh yeah, I always forgot that was even, yeah. Well, Christine and I shared, would share. on drive, like our, like, documents and stuff. And so I would see her tapping and highlighting the text that she was talking about all the time. But to a point where, like, I couldn't read. No, you can't. It's insufferable. And so I was like, what are you doing? I thought the computer

was glitching. But had I not even known or seen that because of Google Drive showing it to me, I don't think I would even know that you suffer at all. Like it's, yeah, there's little things that I didn't, that to this day, like you just said that. And I went, oh, I didn't really ever relate that to OCD. But yeah, you're totally right. I just, it was like my only. It was like my only, insight into it at all. And then at the time when I was like, what happened? You were like, oh, I was like, OCD. And it just. I'm sure that's what it is. Yeah. But I just took it as like, oh, just like a like a habit or something. But, but it really, I mean, we've known each other for a long time. And I barely know the surface of what you go through with that. So like it is very much an isolating.

Yeah, it can be. Totally isolating. That's true. Yeah. And I, I, so I jumped on the experience to to chat about it because I thought, you know, can't hurt to discuss things more, you know, and yeah, help anyone who might be feeling anything even remotely OCD. Whether and you know what? Sometimes it is the hygiene, you know, and that's not, that also manifests. I mean, you watch things like hoarders and now I'm realizing I had a hoarding OCD tendency. Anyway, it's fine. This is for the next.

No CD segment. We'll do it another time. We could do a whole podcast probably. But anyway, thank you, NoCD. and that is why I drink and that is why I go to therapy and that is why I love ERP therapy. And then that's that. That's that on that. Well, I am very happy for you. This is also for the thousandth time in our lives, let's normalize therapy. And shout out to all the therapists out there who are taking care of us because society needs you so badly all the time.

Well, also taking care of themselves. You know, also taking care of themselves. I have therapy tomorrow and I can't. can't wait to use the bruise. Oh my God. I used it this morning and I said that and my therapist didn't even like flinch and I'm like, am I that poetic that I don't even make you flinch anymore? You just went right into the skin. Yeah. I said you just, you just feel me that deeply, you know. I'm very excited to use the bruise metaphor, simile. Analogy. Oh my God. Thank you so much for asking. A simile is when you use like or as and a metaphor is the other one, right? Yeah. I've always thought metaphor is the more poetic one because you have to like think about it.

Yeah, because you just say what it is and then the other person has to figure it out. Simile is holding your hand through it. That's right. Yeah, the lazy analogy. Simile Sima-whoo, you know. I'm like a bruise. I am a bruise. Please.

Wow. I felt that. Poke me like a bruise. Can you sign my bruise? Wait, you can tell us what you are drinking, did you? I did. My macha. Your macho, that's right.

Which is new to me. and I'm like, I'm like, you're, I'm like a parent who just discovered the hip new thing. I'm like, guys, have you heard about this? You know? I, I, I want to like it so bad purely for the color. Just tastes like I'm licking dirt. It's kind of like eating grass. And like, for me, I find that an enjoyable experience.

And I think it's an, it's one of those tastes you eat their like or you don't. Yeah. I, I, I don't know who tried it first and went, this is really killer. Like someone, it's, I feel like it's like, you have to. have like the well it's sort of a green tea so it's like the it's like a green tea but then a little more yeah but i feel like i feel like it's like um what's the right word i don't know i don't know i'll think of it later i guess i know it's like people have been drinking it forever and ever and ever but like oh it's like the cilantro gene to me where i'm like i feel like you either have it or you don't yeah yeah

and i do not yeah and i i don't think i did for a long time i think it was not for me. It's only now that I'm like kind of a different. I think it is an acquired taste. And I don't know. I just got to a point when I was like, maybe I'll try it and I'll like it. And I had some lavender in it like how you do. And I was like, shit is good. Lavender makes everything less horrible. Yeah. Then it tastes like I was eating a whole garden. Yeah, that I can't do. You got to, it's a you got to take, you got to do a tasteful lavender pump. Yeah, it can't be the too much. That really ruins it for me. Anyway, but yes, that is my beverage of choice today.

I'm proud of you. I wish I had something more interesting than water, but, man, it was, we were struggling over here. It was nobody slept well in this house last night. So it was. You know what's so funny is Mondays have been, oh no, today's. It's been safe. Yeah, today's Wednesday.

Hot lull. Okay, I was going to say Mondays have been hard to sleep because remember the last two, I had McDonald's coffee, the Monday. night. But then last night we ordered McDonald's and I was like, oh my God, I'll get a giant iced coffee. And then I saw the fucking reel that Megan made where my spinny loading wheel is just going above my forehead. And I was like, I cannot order an ice coffee today. So I did not and I did not have one last night. So I slept great for once. I'm happy for you. I'm sorry that you did not. But I think I've realized that the McDonald's coffee was the problem all along.

I'm so proud of you. Well, that makes sense you would have some macha and chill out. trying to low like lower shift lower gears you know I'll you know here's enough I'll I'll end on this one one of the reasons I drink I think I've officially hit the age and I'm currently in the process of denial um I think I've officially hit the age where caffeine affects me like gives me complications and stuff I really didn't have to deal with that for a long time I was very lucky okay so I think that might be what's happening to me too because I suddenly feel so old when I drink caffeine because I'm like ah my body can't like like I thought I was having a panic attack I was like was having a panic attack. I literally texted Allison yesterday. I was like, I think it's Xanax o'clock.

Like I fucking something's wrong. And I had been at the coffee shop and drink like three of like three drinks. Yeah. I was like putting stuff in my like journal thing and I was like, I can't tell why my body is shaking and I'm buzzing and I feel like jumping out of my skin. And it was like, have you had caffeine today? And I was like, well, no, but I did have a cold brew and a cup of hot tea and like a McDonald's iced coffee and a whatever coffee espresso beans. Like, Yes, yeah, it really will fuck you up. I think I wasn't aware. Like caffeine really has never affected me, especially in the world of like keeping me awake.

Like it's never done that. And I think ADHD also is messes with that, right? Yeah. So I've always heard it's the reverse effect where like it actually makes you sleepy. And I don't know if that's true or not, but I do know I could always have like a whole can of soda and then go to bed. Wow. But it never kept me awake. I never, I always thought that was like people were just like making shit up and they're like, oh, I have this test.

I have to drink a bunch of red bull. though, isn't it? What's that? That's the worst, though, isn't it? Because caffeine really affects me, which, like, I pretend like I don't know until it's too late. But, like, yeah, that feeling of, like, that buzzing and then try it at, like, two in the morning and you're like, I have a test tomorrow.

It's like, oh, you'll go crazy. It was, um, it's a new experience for me. And it was, I'm very sorry. I don't know what that indicates. Like, maybe you're more in tune with your body. Maybe. That's a positive way of looking at it. I think I'm just getting old now.

Like, I just, I've never. Maybe in our old age, our bodies are like, we're actually done putting up with this shit. Like, we're going to tell you about it now, you know? Well, it didn't. Literally, like, last night, I was like, maybe it's that I drank so much caffeine. Like, it's a new, new, like, as of 24 hours. I see. Because I literally was texting Allison about how I was like, I'm having a full-blown anxiety attack.

What the fuck is going on with me? Like, I'm freaking out. And then I was like, oh, I think I just, maybe I had caffeine. This is what people have always told me happens to them. Maybe it's me. Yeah, it's weird. though, like, because you're like, wait a minute. Yeah, because you just flip the switch. I'm inside it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's hard. Well, I'm sorry. That sucks. It's not fun to be

over caffeinated, even though it sounds fun. Well, now I'm on the journey of figuring out that everything has like insane caffeine and I never noticed because I'm drinking water a little out of fear. I'm like, what if that happens again? Like, what else have I been drinking that has caffeine? And honestly, probably everything. So I mean, as long as you're not doing major energy, drinks all the time. I know just that feeling was horrible. I'd like really freak me out. Anyway, everybody, I'm so sorry we're like a little downward spirals today. Just a lot of problems out there today. Yeah, right in. What are your problems this week? Please bring them on in. I mean, it's literally called and that's why we drink and I can't be happy every week, folks. Sorry.

Yeah, we try. No, we try. No, we don't. I can't even have my, my teas. Let me paint a scene for you. Please. I went to the dog park yesterday. Allison dropped me and Hank off and then she was going to come pick us up. She came to pick us up. And she was in the nastiest attitude I've ever seen in my entire life. And she was like, I'm hungry right now. Oh yeah. That's not good. Thank God we had Hello Fresh waiting for us. She was able to eat. It was, oh my God. She did so quickly. Oh my God. Attitude changed. It really saved me yesterday. Good thing that Hello Fresh is here to fix Allison's shitty attitude. And my day. Oh my God. I was like, I'm scared. You should have seen her. I mean, frankly, it's

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Of course you had an anxiety. Jesus. it was basically what I'm going to cover for you I was thinking like oh I was kind of reminiscing about my Idaho trip and which I never really discussed with anyone except the fact that I slept in a potato but well we talked about it in yappy hour you did a rundown in yappy hour okay good good good I forgot about that um but I was thinking about it and I was like what are some haunted places blah blah and I literally drove past this place while I was there and I even took a picture of it so I was like this feels like a landmark if there was to be one. And so it's in Boise and it's the Egyptian theater. Oh.

And I like I had a picture on my phone some are. There's two Egyptian theaters? Well, so there's seven. Okay. I was going to say there's surely there are more than two. Yeah. Talk about Trippin' Balls and I'm like, oh, the Egyptian theater, the Egyptian theater. And I'm like, this is definitely multiple places.

This one's in Cairo, Egypt. The ultimate Egyptian theater. The real Egyptian theater. So the two that I got stuck on were one in Idaho and one in Illinois. That was those were the two that I kept getting the most. Oh, and that's confusing. Yes. To me.

To me a person who doesn't know geography. To me as well, they both start with an eye. That's enough for me. It's too, sorry. Now I'm lost. So I'm here to tell you that this will be a two-parter because I did all the notes anyway and I was like, fuck this. It's going somewhere.

So this week I'm covering one Egyptian theater. That word is such a trigger for me, people. We're not, we're going to, M remembers. I know I don't. remember. Mine is not a two-part of this week. Do not stress. I'll remember because I've already done the notes. And I'll remember when I have to record again, I'll go, oh, thank God, I already did the notes. Yeah, you know what's so annoying is when I do that? And then I realize I had notes. Like, I had them. I just didn't read them. Yeah, it's fucking good for your reading. So anyway, yes, go ahead. So this is one of two

Egyptian theaters, and I'm not going to do all seven. Please don't make me do another multi-parter all-screen. I will. I didn't make you do that, but I won't do it. Well, if I find enough information, I'd do it. But these, when I typed in Egyptian theater haunted and started like doing a little Google a couple days ago. It was only those two locations. The other two don't seem to be very haunted or popular compared to these. So no shade. Okay. So here's the first one.

This one's in Boise, Idaho. And it opened in 1927. Sidebar, they were so fucking similar that I didn't notice for so long while doing my research. They were both in the 1920s. They both have the same designs. They both have the same histories to why they're called the Egyptian theater. They both had the same kind of timeline. Are they copycats?

Like, did one make it at the same time? No. I was just like, and all the ghosts are kind of similar. So like, spoiler alert and DVD. The next two episodes will be kind of similar. Sorry about that. Or VHS, yeah. Just when you're listening next week, imagine this episode again and be like, oh, I can see why you thought you were like.

I mean, I'm already, I'm already seeing every, it's already sounding like the same place. So this was open in 1927. Fun fact, I had to throw some fun facts in here. The very first movie that it played was a silent film. It was, I hope you've heard of this, Don Juan. Oh, Don Juan, yes. Starring John Barrymore. I didn't know him weirdly.

I don't know who that is. You got it. I mean, is that Drew Barrymore's like. Like the famous family. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't think I knew his first name, which is so weird. Christine, one day, one day.

one day we oh my god we have to deep dive on the barrymore family tree i don't know this i don't know this christine i'm out of the loop like i know from drew barrymore p ov like a little bit and that's it like i don't i don't think i knew all the lore behind i know oh so she's in like a fame like the like she's like the like the fourth generation of barrymore's that are all in the industry oh so i've seen those creepy photos where she's like in all the like elite like ugh it's just creepy creepy all the way back where she's like a little girl and she's like sitting on the laps of these grown-ass men and like it's like yeah she grew up in that story is in true Hollywood for sure yeah yeah um but no she um knows her her great grandfather was the first of the berry and and the grandma they got married they were a power

power couple in Hollywood four generations ago okay and what's his name again sorry I know I his name was Maurice Barrymore oh but what's the guy in Don Juan? John. We'll get there. Don't worry. Now that I'm on this. So Maurice and it was like Georgiana or something. They got married. And neither of them, by the way, have the last name Barrymore. One of them, their last name was it was Maurice Blythe and Georgiana Drew. And then they ended up having three kids who were like very famous power siblings in the industry. And all of them took on the name Barrymore. actually, I think the original couple, they've all been Barrymore's as their stage name. But so the family started as Blyth's and Drew's, which fun fact, I love that our favorite, the queen, she has the perfect name because she combined all three and her legal name is Drew Blythe Barrymore. See, that's cool. That sounds good. But so they had three kids.

All of them were super duper famous. They all married people also in the industry. I think they had some of them had kids in the industry. But one of them then had John Jr., who, is Drew's dead. Okay, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it. Okay. So I did actually know that way better than I thought I did.

I'm honestly, like, amazed. I don't even know how you just did that. Just pulled that out. Okay. Man, forget the Duggers. Like, geez. You know everyone's family trees. It's because John Barrymore starts with the J.

That's the only reason I was able to know. Okay. Oh, Jay. I was like, okay. I don't get it. Oh, fucking Duggers, of course. Okay, so he started in Don Juan, which I've always heard that phrase, like, when like my parents or adults their age would talk about,

oh, he's such a Don Juan, like a playboy. And I was like, what the fuck does that really mean? Who the hell's Don Juan? Because I never saw the movie. I'm so sorry to the film junkies out there. But this is where I tell you, here's a fun fact about the movie Don Juan. It's the film that has the most kisses in film history. And Don Juan kisses.

I want you to guess how many times he kisses a woman in this movie. 30. 191. Oh, Jesus. Wow. So, so no kidding. It was like the average was a kiss every less than a minute, like every like 50 seconds or something. Jesus.

And it could be like a peck on the cheek or whatever, but that man was a kissing. Blam, la, fun fact, it was also the first, this is a quote, first film with a completely synchronized soundtrack. Oh, okay. So in the 1920s, certainly a big movie to play as your first at the premiere of the theater. Yes, agreed. Lots of smooching. Agreed. The lots of smoochin. Yeah.

And in the 1920s, like, so not modest. No. I guess it was also a flapper era, right? Oh, right. So why it's named the Egyptian theater, like the other one. Z. Because a few years earlier, like five years earlier, King Tut's tomb was discovered.

I see. And apparently, unbeknownst to me, the country, our nation, our fallen nation, our fallen nation. May she rest in peace. Apparently in the 1920s after King Tots tomb was discovered, people like had a crazed Egypt fascination. Yes, yes. Like to the extreme, like they were eating powdered mummy and stuff like that.

Huh? Yes. People would like eat powdered mummy. And it was like they would go into these places, these like white men and would go into these places and like ravage the tombs and then come. home with like all these trinkets and like display them and it would be like body parts or like a bone from a tomb and then it got to the point of like oh people would sell like dried mummy and it's like of course half that shit is probably fake anyway or more but it's like also stop it you know it's just

all gross but yeah there was a huge white men that was it yeah there's a huge Egypt phase in the 20s yeah and and also like I mean who discovered king tut's tomb by the way was never given proper credit because he discovered it ran back i met him actually he's like a hundred years old you met the guy who found king tut's tomb and you didn't fucking talk about it this is the goddamn she see i'm like hey you need to buy me a story worth subscription if you want the if you want the real deeds of yours will be the ancient texts found in an attic when you're like when leona's like oh what could what could what could i find out about my mom i met the man who discovered king tut's tomb okay to be fair it got upstage by the UFO I saw a few days later. So I felt like that. It's like you're a cartoon character. It's like every episode of SpongeBob is more outrageous than the last. I, I, I just, I just, we were at this cool place and they make these beautiful statues and it was a family lineage going all the way back to the guy who found and he's like, I was telling you, he's like 100 something years old. And he, there was a room in the back where it was like just his statues that he had made. And so of course they were like crazy expensive. But they still had pictures of him in the old newspapers from the 20. And he's, and he's

because it was like young boy accompanying like Egyptologist and it's like this white dude with some mustache who gets all the credit but this like little Egyptian kid um found King Tud's tomb and he's just a really old man and I bought I spent way too much money and not a white man I'm glad yeah he made a he made a he made a secmet statue that I that I purchased um so it's like your it's incredible it's incredible the way the words pour out of you I don't never It just feels like I'm like a senile old man sometimes. I agree. And I feel like in a different way, I feel like a senile old man when I hear you tell stories like that.

And I go, is that normal these days? It's not fair. I know. But it's like, I just don't know. I don't want to, I don't know. You're one degree away from King's Cutt's body. I want you to know that. And you just didn't say anything.

It never came up. Anyway, you'd have done wonderfully in the 20s because the entire country was obsessed with Egypt. Yeah. actually the whole all of the western world really okay um and so because of that i don't know what was going on but every goddamn theater in the world was like well we're we need to design ourselves as this big grand palace because this was at a turning point in the country where everyone was trying to break away from either the wild west or they were you know uh the great depression had yet to happen so everything was like grander and they're like we have to make

everything glamorous and wonderful it's like splendor and like A roaring 20s, like all that, like, excitement. Yeah. And so they were like, well, how do we do this up? What's big? What's big? Oh, Egypt. Ah, so every single thing decided that their architecture was going to be Egypt.

I see. I'm sure I'm butchering that. If you're an architect, you didn't hear any of this. But a lot of designers got paid at that time to do, to have like Egyptian motifs. It was like all the rage. Yeah. Hieroglyphics, which now a hundred years later, I'm like, what did they even say? But back then it was

No one Everyone thought it was I think just like It was an aesthetic for sure I'm sure they thought it was a compliment To the splendor that is Egypt or something I mean it is if you're not fucking robbing them And like putting it in your bot And like eating mummies like stop it

You know I've never heard a better example Of like how Sorry I'm about to be on my soapbox here Oh yeah Climb on up There's a very heavily overlapping Venn diagram all the way 100 years ago at the very least, based on the point you just made,

that white men and exploitation and violence were just always overlapping each other just a little bit. I mean, true crime content was just always meant to be. If they're going to another place just to eat mummies to say that they did, are you kidding me? Are you new here, M? I know, but I'm just like just another goddamn point. Like, I'm waiting for it.

I'm so tired. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, it's, the thing is like, I really get frustrated looking back because I feel like nowadays there's such more, there's much more clarity around like what it actually means and the actual harm that things like cultural appropriation have. And then, you know, putting like the spin of that's how like we got all the cursed mummy movies, right? Like there was never a cursed mummy. This is just like what people went down there discovered these things like basically like raided, raped the place of all of this, brought it back to. like show off and be like, oh, look at my exotic collection, you know? It's, I mean, we've done this to every whatever. Anyway, yeah, it's just exploitation. But yeah, so we did that back then. That's super good. And it was a big deal. It's stuff I already knew, but I'm just like, again, like, I'm so tired of hearing about this. I'm sad and not surprised at all. But the good thing is, like, nowadays, I know it's shocking to everyone's system and so overloading, but it's like, at least it's out in the open now

at least we're talking about it now you can see it yeah I'd like to think someone in the 1920s heard that their friend did X, Y, Z or ate powdered mummy and they were like, that guy's fucking nuts. That was not cool. Yeah. That's not okay. Okay, so

anyway, the building was decked out in Egyptian stuff. There was especially nods to the book of the dead because that was one of the things that was found in the tomb. And so it is a beautiful theater. I mean, it's a beautiful theater. beautiful theater. And many theaters were doing this to a point where I'm convinced that all the designers of the time, if email existed, they were in like a group chat with each other, a group team. Because what are the odds that all over the country, every single theater is now the

Egyptian theater. Well, it's because like the aesthetic. It was like, it's like when we, it's like when people discover a new cultural trend and suddenly it's like everybody wants to do the, it's like, what it makes me think of is like, company is taking the vowel. out of their stupid names, you know? That's a great point. And then like, woof or whatever as like from the office as like an example of like the parody of that. Like it's just absurd.

Like what are you doing? You know, but it's like with the Egyptian thing. It's like, how do we make it Egyptian? Everyone loves the Egyptian stuff. Let's put Egypt on it. You're totally on top of it. That's very clever guys. Well, I think if they were in a chat, hopefully they could have at least been a little

more creative each of them. I wish because like I'm telling you 100 years later I didn't know the difference between them until halfway through. haven't differentiated themselves. There are seven left today. One of them is in LA, the Grauman's Egyptian Theater, which I saw one source say that that theater inspired some of the design choices of the theater I'm talking about today in Boise.

But I don't really know if that's true. I mean, it just sounds like they both went with an Egyptian vibe. I don't know how. Maybe. I just don't, there was not a lot of them for one that. So it was called the Egyptian theater right away, but by the 30s, it was called the Fox Theater. By the 40s, it was called the Ada. By the 50s, it was called the Plit, which was a chain at the time. Then in the 60s and 70s, it was a Cineplex, May Day Rest

in Peace. Yeah. And then it later got changed back to the Egyptian theater. But in the 1970s, when it was the Cineplex, it was in super dupe a bad shape, as they all are in my stories. And it was considered for demolition. And it was considered for demolition because it was the end of the 70s and what was coming up, the 80s. So what would they be demolishing for? Moles. Shopping. Sineplex shopping malls. And you would think also in the 80s, like, there's no better place in a mall besides

a Cineplex. So you should keep the Cineplex and just add to it. Food court and Cineplex. What more do you need? So they wanted a mall. It was going to be destroyed. But then some anonymous donor showed up and bought the theater to keep it from destruction. Uh-la-la. Anonymous donor. Anonymous donor.

His name was the Barrymore family. More family? Oh. No, his name is Earl. He was anonymous for a while and then he came out of the woodwork to go, it's me. Like he ripped his Scooby-Doo mask off. It's Earl!

So I don't know all the details here and they're not necessarily important. But he, there was some issue about the lease where he bought it, but nothing could be done until the lease was expired. Like there could be no revamping it until the lease was expired, which was like 20 years in the future. Oh, my God. He was a real homie and basically bought the building and just let it sit until the lease expired 20 years in the future and then decided to re-bap it. That's so silly that you have to let us sit there.

Yeah, there was some paperwork. I am not smart enough to understand. Some clause. But what he did do in the meantime was he put it on the National Register of Historic Places. So it was a landmark and officially could not be touched unless it was being renovated, which is what happened in 99. So by 99, it was renovated. It's still there. Today, it's the city's last single screen theater.

It's a theater with only one auditorium, one screen. And this is a quote, it is one of the few surviving movie palaces from the silent film era in the entire country. Oh, my God. Most of them have gone away for it. That's really cool, silent film era. I love that.

I love that. We'll be discussing it again next week. Don't worry. Also still standing in the theater is the original 1927 pipe organ that they had opening day. Oh shit, the original one. Yeah. So apparently so few people play the pipe organ these days that they have had events.

Like, I think I saw on one website that they have like a silent film festival still. And like they still play silent films here. But what they used to do during silent films is they would have live music playing. So that way there'd be music and stuff to accompany. the film. So they actually fly out organists just for that festival so that way you can hear them use the old 1920 organ and still play music behind the silent films. That must be such a trip, you know? I would dress like, I mean, you have for the theme, you have to really commit to the aesthetic of this experience. Oh, I love that.

So the theater is also known as the Most Haunted Building in Boisey, which it's so weird that as I drove past it, I was like, I should take a picture of this. Yeah. I just felt drawn to it. Did you see anything in the windows when you zoomed in? No, but I should have looked at what was playing there, if there was anything playing there. Oh, that's fun. I literally went to the movies when I was in Boise and I didn't go there.

Oh, man. So, whoops. So it said that it's so haunted. This is, again, I'm sure maybe some residual. you were just mentioning this that like, you know, people will use Egyptian curses when like there's... Oh, right, right, right, right, right. People say that this theater is so haunted because during construction, it said that one of the people on the construction team or one of the designers put an Egyptian artifact and sealed it inside the structure. Uh-huh.

So that implies you went to Egypt or had something from Egypt and then you put it in the walls and now pissed off all the Egyptians or just the spirits around and it's yeah it's Egypt's fault um I guess so so there's no evidence of that but it's just a rumor that like oh this place is extra cursed um again no evidence however many many many say that there is a very active ghost here named Joe okay and Joe worked in the project projection room and in the 1950s it said he worked there for like 30 years they always work in the projection room these theater ghosts. It's always the eeriest one who is already isolated, already looming and staring at everyone. That's what it is.

And they're in the shadows. They're already behind everybody. They can see everything. I will tell you, if I lived in the 70s or 80s, if you ever time travel and I've, you know I've also time travels, I'm looking for you. I need you to know that I'm working at either a video rental place or the projection booth booth of the movie. The way we're going to scare the shit out of each other like, pst.

It's going to be the Spider-Men pointing at each other. Oh, my God. I'm really, what the fuck are you? you doing here. Give me. I want to, I want to do the reels. Or I work at it or I work at a diner, but I'm the person who throws the rag over my shoulder and I'm just scrubbing the counters in the middle of the night. You're just doing something diner aesthetic. Like you're just like, kick the jukebox to make it work again. Or just carrying a pie around and kick, yeah, kick the juke box. Yeah. You're recognizing everyone. Make a me a milkshake. I bet. Oh, I bet.

Um, but I'm either, it's either movie based or a diner. I'm doing something wildly stereotypical. I can handle that. Thank you. Thank you. Just come find. me. I will. I'm probably scared. Me too. So, okay, he was there for like 30 years, so one resource claimed. Then in the 1950s, he's going up the stairs to the booth, bam, dies of a heart attack.

Oh, no. Life comes out you fast. Oh, no. It seems to be just a story. That's why I'm being a little chummy about it. Because who knows? I didn't see it. It was a whole lot of, it said, it's said. And since he allegedly died on the stairs of the projection booth of a heart attack, he is known to be the most active ghost here, but mainly kind of boring things.

Lights turn on and off, doors open and closed, hearing a lot of noises. He seems to be most experienced in the booth, which would make sense. But also, one could argue that's the creepiest room in the building anyway, so you're already primed to think that there's a ghost there. I don't know. Maybe it's both. Maybe. Others have said that they actually see him

in the balcony seats of the audience. Oh, so you can finally sit down and watch a movie? He can finally, he's on his break for once. The big break. He's also seen on the stage. So now he's also just doing a song and dance for you. His big break. He's active not just in the projection booth

or in the last rows of the upper balcony. but he's also seen walking through the theater in 1920s clothing until he fades away near the orchestra pit. Okay. I don't know if those are the same man ghost. Yeah, it feels like why would he be doing all those different things all the time? But okay. And why is he in a suit now? Yeah, it feels like he was going to work.

I can understand he's going to work. He's back at work. He's on his break. But like the rest of it, like dancing on the stage and walking through the, I'm like, what is? So you'll note this is where I started getting really confused in my notes because I was like, wait, it just said that Joe stays in the projection booth. But now it's saying that there's this guy from the same era who walks across the stage. But then there's this one guy. And then I had to go through every single article and all that.

And I had to go find like, was this one Illinois? Was this one? Idaho? And some of them didn't tell me where. So I just have to like kind of put two and two together and critically. So I'm doing my best. to unravel a ball of yarn here. I just want you know, thank God all this is already alleged.

I can't imagine this being a true crime case and just accidentally swapping info into different cases. You know, like there's four guys. Let's all pretend they're all the same one. Let's pretend they're all committed heinous crimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That should work fine. So I will say Joe was across the board, definitely Boise.

Okay. One website that did say the Egyptian theater in Boise, Idaho. had a man in the 19, dressed in 1920's clothes walking across the auditorium. So I'm like, okay, so maybe that's also Joe or maybe just another man. Like, it was kind of like a...

And I wonder if they get mixed up because like over time, I mean, you've talked about this before in your stories where like over time, it'll sound like someone from your story, but like maybe they haven't put that together or maybe like we're making a connection that's not there or like maybe they just think it's the same person.

You make a great point. Please hold. Yeah. You are onto something. for sure. So there's also the ghost of a lady in red, of course. Uh-huh. And I know that she's different because there's a lady in a different color at the other

one. So the lady of red is over here. Lady in Red she's seen in vaudeville era clothing. She's mainly seen on opening nights of big shows. Oh, that's fun. For some reason, it's thought that that means she died on opening night. I would argue if she fucking worked here, she must love opening nights of a show. Like, she didn't have to die to just.

like being here. I would say so. I feel like, of course you show. Of course the other guy shows up on his break watching a movie. Right. Right. And of course she shows up on opening night. I mean, if I died in a theater now that's where I'm stuck, you better believe I'm dolled the fuck up on opening night because I'm behind the concession stand, but eating popcorn by myself all the time. Yes. Uh, there's also, I have to assume they're talking about the lady in red, but I don't know that. It could just be the ghost of another woman. So do what you will with that. there's a ghost of a woman seen walking around the theater sitting in the audience for first acts only

and by intermission she's gone. Oh. So she doesn't like a single show long enough to stick on. Jeez, she's a harsh critic. Sometimes she's grabbed people's arms. Sometimes people have smelled perfume on her. And just like you said, if one person has this experience, one person has this experience,

they may not realize that they're talking about the same person. Mm-hmm. There is a regular haunting here where in the old dressing rooms, people smell a lot of perfume. But then a different source just said, there's a woman who smells like perfume over here. And it could be the same woman walking around the whole building. Right. They got to give me some notes, some tasting notes, you know.

Is this like aromatic? Is this like aromatic? Is it fruity? Is it like a bakery? She's smelling a cupcake. Yeah. Tell me everything. Also in this, in the old school dressing rooms, people have felt like they're being watched.

They've been grabbed. Do they see reflections in the mirror of other people there when they're alone in that room? The mirrors in dressing room number three are the scariest because this is a quote, makeup inexplicably smears itself across the mirrors overnight. Oh my God. No, absolutely not. And just like that, theater ain't for me. Bye.

I'm out. There's another ghost, and I want you to remember your point again, because this, I think, is the best example of, like, are we talking about the same ghosts in two different sources and they just don't know it? there's a ghost who seems to be a former crew member who allegedly fell onto the stage from the catwalk. Oh, geez. Again, no evidence. But that's how the story goes.

Many people have said that there are tech issues that now plague the theater, especially on opening nights or during shows that either the lights will go out or the sound will go out or it's already out by itself and it will fix itself. That's kind of an annoying. Yeah. Like great, but annoying. Yeah. And is it like, are like is the haunting over when it's fixed itself or was it naturally broken and he hauntingly fixed it or did they fix it or did they break it and then, right, exactly. Yeah, did he break it and then fix it and now now he's stepping away because he's like, okay. Yeah, I'm not going to just clap for you. Meanwhile, other sources told me that people have seen the apparition of a crew member working on lights. Okay. So that makes me think, could we, could, we, could, someone have seen him tinkering with the lights and then the lights are glitching over here and

then he fixes them? Oh. Did you see him breaking and fixing them? Interesting. Or is there a whole other ghost that's messing with the lights and this guy for the rest of eternity just has to go around and fix everything behind him? Now that would be irritating. I'd be over it.

And no pay? I'm behind the popcorn. I'm telling you, I'm, leave me out of it, everybody. I'm behind, I'm eating Mike and Ikes. Mike and Iks, really, that's your go-to? I just like a micanike every now and then. I love a micanike, but only yellow, orange green. Cannot stand those reds and pinks.

I love them. We can make a perfect pair. I agree. We felt that way about Starburst, too, I think. Yeah, I just eat all the red 40. Okay, because I hate those. Those are the only ones I don't want. It makes my skin break out.

Just give it to me all of it. The orange and yellow makes my pupils dilate. Like I like, I like the sugar rush. And it's so juicy. I'm like, I can do anything. Yeah, that Renee and I used to buy them on Fridays and sit in our car and like cry about boys and eat like 16 packs of mycana. Like it was sick.

And we'd like get ourselves frenzied up into like a sugar pie. Well, other high schools were like out drinking and we'd just be like high on Mike and Ix. Yeah. I mean, I would want to be right there with you. Can relate. Yeah. fucking love

Micah Nikes And nobody talks about them Wait a minute I didn't know that See you said that And I thought oh no M's gonna judge me for Mike and Nikes

But you like them Okay good They don't get nearly enough play They don't get enough credit It's also like I know a lot of people say They like Swedish fish But like nobody's recognizing

That you throw a little sour on them It's a sour patch good No one's talking about them And they're all the same flavor Yes boring It's like let's move on Quickly

With taste Now expeditiously. With a expeditiously stat When are we stopping? Immediately. So there's an actress. These all I got from the same source were just listed all of them and I was like, thank God for you.

There was an actress who was, I guess, in the dressing rooms of the theater and watched her own costume on its hangar move itself around. Just. Was someone like playing with it? trying it on oh god the i think the website said like it looked as if like a costumer was examining it or something oh like taking a peek at it oh my god like making sure it was all good to go seams were good um imagine being alone and adjusting room you see that and then people come in and you can't you just sound crazy you might as well and you and they walk toward your and you're like don't go over there there's an invisible person and you have to put it on your body you have to get naked and put it on your

body after it's been touched i don't think so i don't think i have to do that anymore because I quit. Yeah, I think actually where's the understudy? Expeditiously their problem now. There was a security guard who in the middle of the night saw the stage curtains open and close themselves. Now, I don't love that. I wonder if that's someone playing like, ta-da, or if that's like someone just doing the tech, you know? Yeah. I don't, also if it was a vaudeville stage at all, I would love for there to be some sort of ghost bit with like the vaudeville game. I mean, you have to. You know, I looked up vaudeville. will canes on eBay to see how much one would cost.

Is that when I was going on and on and I kept interrupting you and we were like, all right, finally, I'm going on eBay. I got to get her out of here. I just wanted to know if they really existed. But apparently they're called vaudeville hooks. I do not know they're not called Cains. Oh, a hook. Okay. And I couldn't find a single one that was big enough to wrap around a human body.

So I'm starting to think we've got a conspiracy on our hands. Oh, dear. Maybe that was just a Looney Tunes thing. You're typing out life size. average circumference of human versus Fitzhuman man hook I don't know what I would do with one but you know I want to buy it

and then anyone who bothers me in my own home Allison I could just drag it out It would have really worked this morning When I was like, can you leave? I would have just hooked her Just push it on the door Spunner away Man

Okay so On one investigation they heard a bunch of laughter. People were also physically touched. They saw a man's outline on the stage. Hmm. And then they saw another man staring at them from the projection booth. Ew.

This you'll hate. So there's a former staff member who said that they used a Ouija board there, someone on my side finally, who's like, don't fucking ever play with a Ouija board again. Because without prompting, as soon as they open it up, the planchette by itself went to know. and then the projection door slammed shut on its own and all the lights in the theater went out.

The guy was like, we don't fuck with that. It's like, who do you think we are? Who do you, like, what are you trying to do ruin our afterlives? Like, we're already here working our asses. We're right here. You're ripping a portal open. And also, like, in 1920s, I imagine they were around for like the first wave of spiritualism.

They know what a Ouija board looks like, right? Oh my God, they don't want zozozo, whatever the fuck around here. They're like, I've seen what, you're capable of. They've played scary movies in this theater. I know what you could do. Devil We're Prada 2 is coming, is out. Like, we got to be so on top of our game this week.

Opening night. You have to get it together. People have also found props and costumes in moved locations or even creepier in quote, just slightly changed positions. Yeah, that's somehow worse. I just fucking hate it because it's a mind game. Like they want you. I was going to say, because then you're gaslit.

Yeah. people have also seen shadows darting around on stage. People have heard their name called. They've heard distant vaudeville music playing. And they've also heard distant applauses. It's the distant. I don't know if that's worse or better. It's like, if there were applause right next to me, I'd be like, thank you.

Thank you so much. No, I'm kidding. I would be like, what the fuck. But the faraway applause is not as scary. The far away vaudeville music, though, I don't think I'm enjoying that, really. That's fully meant to horrify you and nothing else. Yeah, that feels like a curse. Because I don't believe that music is actually now playing in the other room and you're hearing it.

It wants you to, it's like it's controlling you to go into that room because it feels totally. It knows you'll be curious about something over there, but it's only playing in your head. It's like when you can throw your voice sort of to me. It feels like somebody's like intentionally putting it there. Yeah, I agree. Agreed. Because if I mean, I'm no expert. These are the conversations we have inside a haunted house and then we're like, so why are we here?

I forget. So the Uber is 20 minutes out of. Yeah. We're like, we've analyzed every angle of how bad this is and how dumb this is. Let's leave. Every time I've heard of someone saying, I thought I heard something and then you play the cameras back. It's not playing in that room. It's absolutely only in your head.

Or they are fucking with the cameras and the camera. Across the room or something. Across the house and it's like doing it by itself and it's all bad. Yeah. And also interesting that you would think applause wouldn't startle you. Imagine being in an empty room and then all of a sudden like a 800 seat theater is all applauding you at once. It's just the sheer loudness of that.

Talk about, I mean, Jesus, it's like give you a fright. It would, I know it would horrify you. I mean, I'd be a little honored. I'd be like, oh, me? Thanks. People also hear whispering. They have heard the pipe organ play itself. Ah, intriguing.

Can't stand that. And then the last thing I'm going to say is there was a travel channel show that was not Ghost Adventures that covered an episode of this called Ghost Stories. Okay. had like 10 episodes and I could not find it online so I cannot report on it. Bah, ha humbug. No, it's out there and if someone is sleuthier than me, enjoy. So that is our first round of the Egyptian theater.

I feel I'm not going to clap really loud right in front of you. I'm going to clap far away. Thank you. And lure you to me. No, I feel like Zachary probably canceled anything that had the word ghost. he was like that's actually my domain you may not have ghost story the show that's not for you i mean i to this day believe that there are no other ghost shows that he's not starring in unless they're like so like five rungs under him that he doesn't totally and he lets them have their little time yeah it's

like you can pretend like we're on the same page i what do you think he feels about ghost hunters like they must have a beef right for fucking like how could you not these yeah there's no way well wasn't nick gruff on both of those shows oh wait maybe maybe that's right. Maybe there's like there's like certifiable beef. Great A beef. I think he left Ghost Adventures to go be with Ghost Hunters. That makes sense. You know what I like about Ghost Hunters? And I've said it before in the world of research. And Zach Bagan's, I will say he is a business mastermind. Of course he does it the other way because then he gets more views. But I appreciate as someone who's just trying to do as much research as I can quickly, all of their evidence is at the

end of every single episode. So I don't have to watch the whole thing. I love that. Really? Oh, oh, the evidence, the ghost evidence. Yeah, I understand. Because then they go like, oh, let's go tell the owner what we found and then show a compilation reel. And I'm like, that's so fucking beautiful. Thank you. And then Zach is like, oh, you have to watch the whole thing. Zach's like, let me read this poem out loud that I made and then you can see the ghost. And it's like, do I have to pay that toll? That's quite a toll to pay. And it's one in the morning and I'm like, Zach, I just want to go to bed. Please. Roses, roses. Turn up the volume. Roses, roses. Roses. Yeah, nobody does it better than you. Because I had to hear it a billion zillion times.

Do you know something's really true about me? I say it wrong to make sure that you say it right. I go, roses, roses so that you say it. Roses, roses. That's it. Oh, it scratches a weird it's in my brain. Oh, God. I get my text sound.

I might. Yeah, I'll never answer my phone again. Roses, roses. I just, it's like, you know, the ghost misadventures TikTok just has like such a charm, such a gem of a concept. Like taking, taking Zach clips and then writing like me when my mom tells me to do something or whatever. And it'll be like, I just don't want to go in there or whatever, you know, but it's, they just have gold. If they're listening, I hope that there's a video eventually that says when someone asks what my favorite flowers are. Roses. Roses.

They used that clip, I think. And I was like, oh, my God. I relate to this type of humor specifically. Because that whole clip, I remember watching that with you. Like, that whole clip is in there of him singing. And like, man. I remember finally covering that one and thinking, there's no way I'm not, we're not going to watch the entire thing live.

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regularly. But like, you know when you're just like in a ghosty mood or something, even though it's like also your work, right? It's like... The passion is has resourged. Yes. Yeah. It's like I got like more intrigued by my own kind of topic for a little while. And I got, I kind of went a little outside of my norm, my comfort zone of research. And I found this relatively new Netflix mini series. It's a three-parter called Should I Marry a Murderer? And I was like, well, that sounds like a TLC situation. Like, I don't know. Wow. But something about the thumbnail. You know how Netflix does those thumbnails that

like cater to you. Like it was like the original algorithm where it was like different depending on whose phone you were on or whatever. So it it got me good. And I'm watching this going, I can't believe this is. I can't believe this. I mean, it's just a doozy. I feel like it's perfect. So I'm going to cover it. Here we go. It was late 2020. We were all in hell. And we can all remember it because we're still there. We haven't left. And we might be reentering. Have you been Actually, no. Oh, Christine. Just I'll let you live in the bliss.

I literally might now have suddenly my nice burt, my Nito cube is going to explode. Yeah. No, there's a, there's a new virus. Not a COVID train. You mean a cruise ship one? A cruise ship one. Oh, yeah. Well, that's passed from animals.

Which means there were like rats on the ship or something. Something like that. But and they keep saying like, I just watched the video today because my whole algorithm is everyone's saying like don't let them off the boat don't let them off the boat but then other people are like they're they've already been off the boat they're on a cruise they've been going from port to port traveling and only now we're showing symptoms um oh fuck dude and several people died yeah and it's a the once it's human to human it's a 35 to 50% chance of dying no matter who you are oh it's like a half a one to one guess or a one out two that you'll die

Okay, well then in that case. Stay on the boat. I don't know. In that case, I'm staying in my house is what I'll say about that. Everyone in the comments is like, I'm going to be an influencer this time. Like it's like this time. Oh my God. Yes.

Like I'll take a bread. I'll finally commit to sourdough. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's so dark and sad. But it is. It is. It's, it's really insidious.

Okay, here we go. So in late 2020, Dr. Caroline Mirhead, she's 32 years old. she's working as a forensic pathologist in Glasgow, not to be confused with Glasgow, which is how I used to say it thinking I was saying it correctly. Same here. And was not, not. Caroline was recovering from a bat. Sorry, I just got a text from Blaze. USPS just delivered the caterpillars.

And I was like, what the fuck? And that I remembered Leona had got a butterfly enclosure for Easter. It sounds like some sort of like code. Some spike. Like the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plane. Click. Just like that spy code, that early spy code. Yeah.

We can't talk here. Walk with me. Can't talk. Get in the bunk. I'll meet you in the bunker. Okay. Mirus pay phone. Five minutes.

Caterpillars have arrived. They've left the building. All right. So she is recovering from a bad relationship. She was, I don't know if she's at a bad relationship. She's recovering from what she called a very toxic relationship. several years kind of sunk into this and ended very, very tough. It was a very tough breakup.

She is kind of going stir crazy like we all are. She gets on the dating apps and she's on Tinder and is trying to get back out there. But again, it's 2020, like already a tough time and then to be like going through a breakup. So she's on there and she realizes Glasgow is just too small of a search area. So she widens the net, so to speak. and she finds this guy named Sandy Alexander. He went by Sandy McKellar on Tinder. Sandy was over six feet tall.

He's 31. Bachelor works as a farmer and a deer stalker, a k.a. like a hunter slash like lives off the land type of, you know, kind of manly man thing. That kind of didn't help. Like stalking deer or stocking? Oh, stalker. Like stalking them.

Oh, he really is stalking them. Like he's... With a weapon. with, So he's a hunter. Why are we saying it any other way? Because we're in Glasgow. I don't know.

Maybe that's what they call it. I have no clue. In my mind, I felt like he stalks a deli with deer meat or something. Like he stalks the fridge. And then he didn't make it any better because you're like, he's in the woods. And I'm like, okay. So he's.

No, it's, I guess it's sort of like, it's like an old, it feels like an old timely way to say he's, he, he's a hunter. It's only telling you step one of his process. I just say, yeah, yeah, yeah, I stock them first.

I'm also a deer murderer. That's called Red Flag. Yeah. What if you just stocked them, though? That'd be crazy. What a silly little hobby? What if you wanted to stog me? You're like, that's a bad, I want to get it out in a healthy way.

I'll stock deer. I feel like that's kind of like people watching, but we just say it nicer. It's like I just like to observe a really good point. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, really good point. Maybe just go for a walk and just leave it at that and keep the rest of my thoughts to myself in my head. Okay. So anyway, he has this profile.

It says he's a farmer, a deer stalker hot. Just kidding. He's 31. He's over six feet tall. He lives and works on something called the Och Estate, A-U-C-H, near the bridge of Orki in the Scottish Highlands. And they, like, clicked immediately. I mean, somehow the chemistry is exactly right.

And it's COVID times and things go super duper fast. I think a lot of people who met during that COVID time can relate. They were like, fuck it. We're already all kind of screwed in the world's on fire. Let's move in together. You're a deer stalker. I'm a deer. Let's make it happen.

I have a PhD and you stocked deer. I think we're a perfect match. They call me Bambi. Yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, that's a good pickup line. Call me Bambi. Okay.

Okay. So Caroline, like really got drawn into this guy. And remember, she's coming out of a very tough breakup. Sure. Right. So she kind of dives headfirst into this relationship. Some of her friends are like, ooh, it's going a little fast. Within five weeks of meeting, they're engaged. Oh, well, okay. And it sort of happened because she would come up to visit all the time on his land. And they would take like the ATVs, four wheelers, whatever you call them, the deer stalkers.

I don't know what they're called over there. He'd take, they would take them and like go smoke and drink in the woods and like party and have fun. And it's, you know, she just was like. I mean, talk about like if you're going to date someone during the pandemic. and you have to like quarantine with people or like isolate yourself in the Scottish Highlands the Scottish Islands in the middle of nowhere just an ATV and you in nature I mean that is that's six feet apart for sure and others and beer yeah just like yeah so they were just you know riding high like rose colored glasses 100% Sandy also and he was by the way over six feet tall six foot two or whatever so she met him she's like he wasn't even lying about his

Good for him. I know. So he also had a twin brother. And the three of them became fast friends. And she became kind of enmeshed in his friend's circle as well. And everything was pretty hunky dory, except when Sandy drank, he would get a little bit not like himself. He would get dark. Okay.

His twin brother once told Caroline at a party that Sandy was. quote, not right in the head. And she kind of just like brushed it off because what does that even mean? Everyone was drunk. And she said, whatever. You know, who is right in the head? So things are, things are a little red flaggy, but she keeps going. She later said she felt vulnerable and was looking for kind of an escape and just like a way to let off steam.

And, you know, he like adored her. And so she just felt like full steam ahead. Yeah. she actually recalled thinking what's the worst that could happen i i this is the last time i'll make a joke about your soccer but i do i the more i'm finding out that he's like not right in the head i'm kind of like did he just come up with like is he just inserting words like that into his career because i feel like i don't i don't think so even though it does feel that way and they do how well so they do highlight at least in the documentary and in i think it was in glamour some some some publication but

they talked about his early access to gun and and how since the age of like eight or nine, his parents would just have guns lying around the house. And like, keep in mind, this is not in the USA, right? This is not a normal thing in other countries. And not that it's necessarily normal to have weapons around your nine-year-old laying around, like, in the open, sure. Like, that's obviously, we all think that's inappropriate. But, like, to have that there where pistols are actually illegal to own and there are just, like, pistols laying out. And there's two nine-year-old boys in the house.

and they are being taught to stock and kill, so to speak, hunt deer from like a very young age. So it does all kind of track in that sense. It's adding up quickly the things you're telling me. And also now I'm wondering like I could see either side like you're like when I'm thinking of they were engaged with them five weeks. Originally I was like, oh, what a whirlwind love in the middle of a pandemic. But part of me is also like, oh, where's there a control situation going on here? I, you know, it's like, I think even when she looks back and talks about it, she's like, it just for everybody seemed like, you know, you're in it and it's a whirlwind and you're just like,

it's almost like mania, I feel like, like you're almost in it and you're like, well, can't stop the train now. And then, you know, at a certain point. I mean, let me know what you think when you get more details, I guess. Sure. Yeah, I'm going off of nothing so far. So, not nothing, I would say. in late November of 2020, they're planning, they're lovey-dovey. They're planning like getting married.

And she's like, are you serious? Like, you really want to marry me? And he's like, yes, I do. You're so special to me. And she's like, I can't believe this. And they're talking about their future marriage. And she tells him, you know, we've only just met. So if we're going to get married, we have to tell each other everything.

You need to tell me everything you're proud of. And you need to be able to tell me everything you're not proud of. And they're kind of like getting deep and talking. and a police car drives past the property and Sandy has a panic attack. He's gasping for air. He's wailing and he tells Caroline, I've done a horrible, horrible thing.

She, of course, immediately gets this dread and she's like, what? I'm sure it can't be that bad. Sandy tell me what happened. He says three years ago, I was out drinking with my brother and he got in the car, drunk and he hit a cyclist with his car.

Hmm. She was like, what do you mean you hit a cyclist? And he says, I was drunk. It was foggy. I didn't see him. And I hit him. And it was too late by the time I hit him. And she starts freaking out.

And she's like, whoa, what do you mean? How could that happen? He says it was his life or mine. So I never told anyone. He admitted that he and Robert had hidden the body and that he had been on the run from the police ever since. Oh, is that why he lives out in the middle of the fucking nowhere? So he actually grew up there.

So that he already did live on that property. But yes, sort of. Yes, also. Okay. And it wouldn't be the last time he's like hiding out there. She's like, why, why didn't you report it? He says, my whole life would have been taken away for an accident if I had told the police, right? So she's like, what the fuck?

fuck Sandy like what do you mean you can't just tell me you killed someone and he's like I'm freaking out I'm freaking out you're the only one I've ever told I was gonna say that's also crazy of him to say to her if he's that afraid of it getting reported it's like well now it's probably gonna get reported so she is like what the fuck am I supposed to do with this and you know she's freaking out she's trying to to remain calm and be like make sense of this situation and he tells her through tears he's right beneath your feet when we shoot clay pigeons i just got like full body chills like we're just saying all of it like he's really word vomiting he's wanted it's spilling he's wanted it off his chest for quite some time it seems 100 100 so they go back to

they go back home and she's like he is like so relieved right like you said he's unburdened himself he feels like, oh my God, I got this off my chest. He falls asleep. Crazy. She's like, I'm in the middle of nowhere. I'm freaking the fuck out. And I'm sleeping next to a murderer and I'm trying to remain calm. I also like I, I'm noting now and maybe I'm totally wrong, but I'm just going to like hold

on to this little bullet point that like the fact that he now feels so unburdened and now he can go to bed. I'm like, I would have a whole new even like equal to. bigger fear now that like at any moment someone's going to spill the beans. I think she was so insistent like, hey, you can tell me anything. And we, and I think she really meant it and didn't realize what would be coming, you know, like said like, you can tell me anything. And I think they really were just connected in that way where he was like.

And when she said, okay, it's going to be all right. Like, I'll stay with you and I'll still marry you because she's like, I don't know what else to say. And I'm scared. Then he was like, thank God. like finally, I can really marry you knowing you know my darkest secret, you know. Like I think he was more relieved that he could tell somebody and she wanted to stay with him. In reality, she's over there on her phone Googling cyclists.

Imagine how much you'd be shaking. Like she's Googling cyclist death hit and run. And like you and then, oh my God, then you're finding out all about this person and learning about their life and empathizing with the family. and well it's like you just knew what I was going to say okay so she looks up this story and lo and behold exactly matching the story that sandy had told her september 29th 2017 uh the 63 year old man he was retired royal navy officer and grandfather tony parsons anthony parsons he was a prostate cancer survivor he was on a 104 mile solo charity bike ride Oh my God.

He set off from Fort William and was heading home to Tillakoultrie. And earlier that day, Sandy and Robert had been drinking at the Bridge of Orky Hotel with a German hunting group. They had too much to drink. Incidentally, this Tony guy also stopped at the same hotel for coffee at 1130 p.m. And the hotel staff were like, wow, it's late. Like, you should stay the night. And he said, I can't. I've got to keep cycling.

So he goes on. Then Sandy and his brother leave drunk. And he drives his Azuzu DMAX pickup truck over the alcohol limit speeding. Robert is in the passenger seat. Sandy hits Tony on his bicycle from behind on the A82 near the bridge of Horky. Tony suffered catastrophic injuries including broken ribs, a fractured pelvis, and a fractured spine. So she finds all this out. And like, imagine Googling this and finding the local news.

There's news articles. There's people saying if you have any information, you know, his family's looking for who did this. And like this man was just killed and left. And nobody knows where where he is. You know, it's just, it's, it's just heinous. It's horrible. So this is where it gets even worse because around this time, he, Sandy, comes home to meet. Caroline's family.

And she feels like she's lost control of the train because she's like, I pretended to be okay with this. I couldn't tell anyone. Now he's meeting my family. He fits in great. They love him. Now I'm like in it. And I'm like, how do I get out of it without getting in danger without like.

Or in trouble with the law because now you're an accomplice. In trouble with the law. Like she's like, I have to do the right thing. I don't know how to. She's also emotionally so vulnerable and confused. So Caroline did not tell the police immediately. And this is where people start to get a little bit like that people debate about this story a little bit on like whether she did the right thing because she did go to the police, right? But people are like, why didn't she go sooner?

And why, you know, she went to the police. But she did wait about a month before reporting it. Um, he had come over for Christmas and all that and had met the family. She was just like feeling like out of body confused and surreal and sick to her stomach. So she tells police, I have something to tell you. She tells her parents first and they're like, we let's call the police together. They call the police who arrest Sandy and Robert. But then she finds out they're released because they have no physical evidence her body.

Really? She can't just say go where we used to shoot the. Okay, well, obviously that's going to happen. Okay. So she looks on Google Maps, but it's such a big property that she's like, I don't know where. Like we would go out there to shoot clay pigeons, but like you can't just say like this whole acre or, you know, whatever. You can't say like this square mile. Like, yeah.

It would have to be much more specific. And so she's like, it's in this area, but it's a private property. So they can't just like barge in there and start looking. And so she's kind of stuck. And she, of course, now one of her biggest fears is that they find. out that she's the one who told the police, right? So the two are released. Horrifying.

Sandy calls her and she answers the phone and he says, oh my God, this horrible thing happened. Like the police, I don't know how they knew and she has to pretend like she has no clue. He didn't suspect it was her. So he really didn't. He did later. Okay. And he found out. But at the beginning, he really believed that she wasn't the one.

Okay. Which is just wild to me. So during this time, she's really spiraling. And one of the biggest controversies about this case is the lack of support she was given because she was a crown witness for this case. And she was going to be like the primary, like the linchpin of this case, right? She has this confession. She has this information. she's even been told where the body is,

and yet they arrest these guys, let them go, and then leave her to fend for herself. So she's out there being like, what if they find out it was me? What if, you know, my family is in danger? What if, who knows? And the police essentially dismiss her. And she is really, in my opinion,

treated very, very poorly by police who basically, at least several of the investigators who claim like, well, she should have done this differently. She should have known better. She was one of them was she has a PhD. She should know better. And I'm like, don't. Excuse me?

A PhD and this? Yeah, don't fucking talk about as if you know, as if anyone would know what to do, right? It like really pisses me off, especially because a lot of this was like just her not knowing who, what to do. I mean, she was totally lost. And at this point, I don't know if you have information on this, but did Tony Parsons family hear that there was some sort of like like reopening of the case because I would be fucking fuming if I found out finally someone maybe knows where my dad or my husband is and they're just out now

we're not really even going to try. Okay. So but when they were released, it was pending further investigation. So it wasn't like, oh, they're released for good. It was like they've been arrested and it was announced. And now all of a sudden everybody is reaching out to Caroline and going, what happened? I heard the boys were arrested. What's going on?

And so she's playing this weird game of like pretending she didn't, pretending she doesn't know to the outsiders, pretending to Sandy that she's not the one who told. Like she's just playing this like bizarre part. They didn't have physical evidence or body. And police said, why don't you try to get a little more information out of them? And this is where it just be like, actually,

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She's already isolated by all this. It's COVID. Like she's not getting the support she needs. She's already gone through a traumatic relationship. Now she's like kind of in this weird place where she's like, I was not making good decisions. I went back to the property to be there and just be away from everything. And like he treated me well. And so I just went with it.

And she said, I told myself I would get more information for the family. I'd be able to like close the case, you know. So she kind of moves in and her family is like shit. Like first she tells us her fiance that we just met killed this guy and then she moves in with him. And I can't imagine the cortisol spikes like the adrenaline just shooting through me at all. Because at any moment you hear a sound and you're in an unfamiliar place. Mm-hmm. Because she moved to his property.

Mm-hmm. Which, by the way, is where the body is. So she now has time to go looking for it, I guess. Yep. But, like, you're in a new house, new sounds in the middle of nowhere with a guy who might find out. And although it wasn't intentional, it sounds like, it still killed somebody. By the way, and his brother, who also lives there. So it's like the two people who, yeah.

And I'm sure the brother was not thrilled that his brother told his fiancé what they did. brother had to wonder for sure. The brother had to be like, did you tell anyone? And then he went, oh, I kind of told her. He had to think it would be fucking her. He actually thought it was her. And Sandy said she would never do that to me. And she talks about how how deeply, like, hard that was to see, like, this man that

she had, like, fallen in love with, right, before this all happened. She would never do this to me. She would never do this to us. You have to believe me. and like being like yeah of course I wouldn't but like also knowing she has to do the right thing for the family it just seems like an impossible situation and so you know I can understand like I wouldn't have done not she wouldn't have she shouldn't have whatever but like at the same time nobody really knows what they would have done and like ultimately she did do the right thing and

I don't know it can be debated till like house come home I don't think there's really a way to know what she was thinking and feeling and like no no one trains you for what to do in that situation no certainly you're just sort of You're surviving. So she's over there and she's sort of like in this weird middle ground of like deciding whether she's really in this relationship or if she's just here to like get intel, you know, and like is she here because she wants to be or with because the police told her it seems unclear to her even. And one day, uh, the brother Robert says drunkenly by the way.

They're going on like benders during this time. They're just like totally losing it because she's like, I just didn't know how to survive. Like we were just on drugs. We were drinking. We were trying to escape, you know. And like every you're right. Like every time a siren or a police car would drive by, apparently Sandy would have a panic attack. Like they were just.

Yeah. I mean, he already did the first time he told her. Then Robert comes to her and says it's worse than what he told you. I know. Which? Kind of crazy that Robert is now telling her, even though he kind of suspects that she told the lighthearted version. I agree. Like, what was, he must have been kicking a few back or something.

I think they were really, yeah, yep. And he says, we actually realized after we hit him that he was still alive. No. They could have not, they could have, I mean. Yep. Yeah. They could have just helped. 10 and just like called 9-1-1 and they wouldn't have got a deal for manslaughter or anything like that.

Yep. Yep. It's like once you make that fatal decision of like you've really fucked yourself because yeah, they, you know what they did? And this is a part that she said was that was a huge turning point for her is that she found out not only did they just drive away. They actually moved his body to be out of the sight line. So if another car drove past, nobody would see him. So he's like in agony and they drag him out of sight so that he can't be seen. Then they switch cars and come back.

Oh, that's so much more, first of all, unnecessarily elaborate. Yes. Yes. It's interesting that I'm not saying they should have at all. But like, I'm surprised their reaction wasn't to actually kill him. Like it feels like they were, I guess they at least had something in them. We're like, we can't do that. But we could let it happen on its own over here without any help.

Like, it's like they're both so, I mean, I don't know. They're both so fucked up. You could have just called for help. I'll be honest, they may have killed him if he wasn't already dead by the time they got back, right? Like, we don't know. I mean, I don't necessarily know. We don't know the details. But allegedly, what happened was they, instead of calling 911, they left him.

They moved his body out of you. Then they went home, got a different vehicle, a Toyota, to come back and move him. Then they destroyed his phone and his SIM card. Like, this is all very, you know, planned. This is so much worse. Yes. So much worse. They burn his wallet.

They burn his helmet because they have something called a kill pit where they put the deer and like all that shit. So they're able to dispose of stuff. They, she finds out over time, spending time with the brothers that they, that he, he hid the bicycle under the waterfall on the property so that nobody would find it. They initially hid Tony's body in a wooded area on the estate and then told her that they used an excavator to bury him in a remote peat bog on the estate. So they moved him. The spot they chose was a kill pit or a stink pit used for dumping dead animal carcasses. because that was such a big part of their job.

So they had a place that. And so once the detective started digging the forensic team started digging things up, they realized like these are all, there's so many deer bones. And it's because they had, you know, disposed of him. So the spot they chose was this kill pit. Sandy and Robert got the car fix, the Asuzu, but they told people that they had hit a deer. And that's what that's what it happened. So when they talked to locals about the brothers, people knew them as hunters, as outdoorsy, kids as kind of rabble-rousers, troublemakers.

They grew up in a culture where like killing animals was just part of the norm from young on. So like there's a certain part of them. People think that was able to be shut off. Like, you know, see the human as like an animal instead of, I think, is my opinion from from just understanding what. happen here. I agree. Especially with the alcohol mix and when he says like it just turns him into a different person and a lot of the evidence that was gathered is Caroline would be playing chess on

her laptop and would hit record on a voice note. And she was like, it was terrifying because he could just kind of walk around and see. But sometimes he would just like drunkenly say something and she'd hit record and he would say, you know, I hid the bicycle behind the waterfall so no one could find it. And she's like, shit, I got to like record this. And keep in mind, she's on cocaine. Like, they're high out of their minds and drunk. And so she's like, kind of has a grasp on what's going on, kind of not.

That's so ballsy because like if he found out who knows what would have happened. Exactly. Especially when they're drunk. Exactly. And so she finds out it's even worse. And now she's like really in it. And she convinces him to show her. where the body is.

Because he starts, so he starts getting paranoid that construction on the estate that they're planning would expose the grave, right? So she's like, well, show me like where it is. And by the way, do you remember what her job is?

No. She's a forensic. Oh, yeah, pathologist. Pathologist. And she has a PhD in forensics. Like this is a person. And then so she starts wondering, like, is that why he matched with me?

because like I would know about and he had said to her several times like you and I both aren't squeamish. You and I both understand things so that like have to be done. You and I both understand like the gruesomeness behind it. Like he had this kind of fixation that she wouldn't be as horrified as other people might, if that makes sense. I do get that. But also it's not true. She was like actually horrified. But yes.

I mean, you know, at a certain level. Maybe what direction he was heading with it. But I also. I'm still surprised by that too because I would think if I had a body on my property that I'm trying to hide. Then I match with someone who's a forensic pathologist. Oh, never mind. Can't make dinner. Never talk to you again.

Blocked. Kind of crazy. You're right. Because it feels like the last person you would want to bring to your property would be the person who could sense where a body or not sense, but you know, like have any knowledge of a body. But like I wonder if part of it was, oh, I'm safe with this person. Like she won't judge. I mean, that's at least what he would tell her. And, you know, she made him feel safe, I guess, enough to open up about this.

So after she tells the police and they don't do anything to kind of help her except, say, go find out more because we don't have enough on them. She moves in, gets way wrapped up into this with the brother, with her fiance and the brother. Robert, like I said, told her eventually that it was way worse. He said, and I quote, when we hit that man, it happened very fast. We got out and when we walked towards him, he was alive. And her mental health just tanked, right? She felt worthless. She was like, I felt like total shit.

I disappointed my family. I'd already like fucked up of this long past term relationship. Now I had a wedding dress. My family thought I was getting married and it's like a literal murderer and I'm in the middle of it. It just is a mess. understatement. She was doing cocaine and drugs, alcohol. She described herself as being in a state of terror.

I mean, it sounds like she's just in like fight, flight, freeze, like survival mode. And as Sandy becomes more and more paranoid, he's like, can I show you where the body is and maybe you can help me? So that's where she starts to think, is he just using me because I know how bodies work and I can dispose of it so that he doesn't get further implicated. So she goes with him to the peat bog. and she's like so like where is it and he goes right about here and she drops she drops she squishes and drops the red bull the empty red bull can she was holding to mark the spot fucking brilliant babe and then he goes did you just litter i'm not even kidding and she goes oh sorry and he goes pick that up she literally describes this she's like i tossed it and she's like

And then he looked at me and was like, why'd you do that? And she was like, sorry, I don't know, what came over me? I will say she should have dropped something a little more indiscreet, like a little more discreet. I don't think she planned it. I think it was in the moment. And then she's like, sorry, I don't know why I did that. And he goes, go get that.

So she picks it up. And she's like, and then when he turns around, she's like, I put it back down. Hmm. And left it there. I mean, ballsy. Balsey. very ballsy and I mean we're flying past the joke that is he's upset that someone's littering while he's showing you the body he buried but yeah he's like what would you do that for he's like what are you

some sort of criminal like a litter bug right yeah I don't really like that you break the law actually hey there's a dead body down there and you're littering on I mean it's like yeah you're right it's absurd in in a way it is right um so wouldn't you know it that's the red bull can that brought detectives right to the spot where they found Tony's body. And you also like imagine dropping it and you just pray to God there's not a windy night before the cops can get there. She like crushed it in with her foot the second time.

She's like, I'm going to crush this down. Oh, okay, good. And then when she told them there's a red bull can out there when the brothers were arrested again and then released, she got a phone call or they were questioned, I guess. I don't know if they were arrested, but they were questioned and released and she got a phone call. And she said, oh, hey. Sandy, and he's screaming. And he says, you fucking did this.

You fucking told them. And she's like, that's when I knew he found out. He somehow found out that I had been the witness, right? And he's like, I'm coming over right now. Oh my God. He's going to kill me. He's going to kill me. Yeah, there's no other option.

She goes, what do you mean? How do you? I didn't tell them, what do you mean? And he goes, I saw the Red Bull can, Caroline. They told me there was a Red Bull can that marked the spot. So he knew she had left that there. to mark the spot and he knew that this had all been her design. So he shows up at her house and she's,

she lets him in. And they seemingly spark up another romance. What? This is why this story is like, what's happening? Sorry. I know. Repeat that one. So wait, they like, was it like like like hate sex or something?

I know that's weird to say. She just, he's like, I still love you. And she's like, okay. I was thinking like maybe like a like a passion, like a, uh, we don't know. You know how when like there's like they're fighting and so hate, they're so mad and they're just like make out like,

like I don't know. That made more sense to me than like we're going to hash this out. No. It's plot twist of the century. You think he's coming there to killer and then I guess like they make up. This is the most like, like, like it's like equivalent to like a love bombing where it's just. Just like the ups and downs and ups and downs.

I mean, like, right, right, right, right. Top tier. Oh, my God. It's just crazy town. And you were watching this like, how I can't barely keep up. So, I mean, the good news is, of course, now they find a body. They're able to bury Tony officially on January. And on January 12th, 2021, they were able to finally locate him.

And his family was able to have a funeral three years after his disappearance. But of course, you know, he finds out that his fiance is the one who told on him. But when he sees her, and by the way, she recorded this conversation too. So it's really bizarre to be able to hear into people's like arguments from from something so shockingly big and scary. But he basically says, she screams and I'm like, why did you bring me into this? Like, why did you bring me into this? And he almost, he sort of breaks down. He's like, I'm the one who did this to you. You had no, of course you went to the police. You're a good person. So like it's Change of heart.

It's almost like even harder for her to break away now because she's like, well, he says it like, he's like, I understand why you went to the police. The way that my brain works is the opposite in every situation you've told me to part. Because I would think, oh, now he's really going to kill me. He's like warming me up. Like he's softening me up. Like, like, oh, he's like acting like everything's fine. And then when I least expect it, like I'm not afraid to be alone in rooms with him.

As she said, like he's just a broken man. Like he's just broken. and you would come to her and be like, I did this horrible thing and like, you're the only one I can talk to. You're the only one who understands, right? And it's like that trope of like fixing the person. And she just said, like, at this point, I was trying to get information. Everybody thought I was crazy and, like, I was on drugs. So I was like so not well. And like, I was mentally really unstable. And then the trial is coming up and they're like, you have to testify. You know, it's just a mess. Okay.

Her parents are just totally at a loss. So this is kind of the end of this like roller coaster for now, at least. Essentially what happened. It was a little bit anticlimatic, I guess. There's I guess this thing called, there's a thing in Scottish law called corroboration, which means they need two sources of evidence to prove something, right? So they had a body, but then they didn't really have anything else. And Caroline was meant to testify on the stand.

And she went on this long bender. She was really freaking out before the trial. She didn't feel confident in herself. She was almost she was spiraling to the point that she was like, maybe I'm making all this up. Like maybe she just like felt so gaslit by her own. Yeah. The stories and everything, right? She's like totally confused.

And the day, a few days before, uh, She gets this official letter in the mail that says if you don't show up to court, you'll be arrested. And like this will go on your permanent record. Like the police are like fucking treating her like trash. Wow. And the day of the trial comes, she's a no show. Oh, is she dead? They call, no.

Okay. I'm just waiting. I don't know. No, she's alive. Thank God. They call her family. Her parents are like, what do you mean? I put her clothes out and everything this morning.

She should. Where is she? She's not at the courthouse. Okay. Turns out. she had a little bit of a, whether you want to call it a break from reality or what have you, she had an episode and she went to the waterfall. And she said, they, I don't want, she said, I can't be relied on for my testimony alone.

I need more evidence. I'm going to find the bicycle. And Ms. forensic pathologist said, I'm going to do whatever I have to do. She gets her phone out. She's filming this on Snapchat. She's not sending it to anyone, but she's like, I was just filming the whole thing, like a vlog, sort of. She's like, here I am under waterfall looking for my fiancés. Well, also, if she, like, had, like, a mental situation going on where she, like,

couldn't even believe herself anymore. She's like, I'm filming for posterity. Like, I just don't. That's kind of what it was. Right. Exactly. Like her own vlog for posterity. And so she's, like, vlogging this.

And so, of course, they have this footage in the Netflix series. And it's, like, really bizarre because it's, like, Snapchat footage. And she has, like, the filter on. And she's, like, underneath the waterfall. Like, well, I'm supposed to be in court. I was supposed to testify three hours ago, you know, I wonder if they'll arrest me. and then there are helicopters above and she's like, here they come. Like, I mean, she's just like really kind of losing it as she kind of described.

And eventually, you know, she's arrested. They put her in a cell and she's like, what have I done? I miss testifying. I fuck this all up. And they come to her and they say, okay, the brothers have accepted a plea deal. They, Sandy pleaded guilty to culpable homicide and attempting to pervert the of justice and was sentenced to 12 years in prison. Okay.

His brother Robert pleaded guilty to attempting to pervert the course of justice and was sentenced to five years and three months in prison. Why did he have such a lower sentence? Was he... Because he was the passenger. Oh, okay. And so he was less culpable in that he was not driving the vehicle, which would have been like the murder weapon.

So, yeah, I mean, it's just really shocking. And part of the debate, too, is like, well, if she had testified, would they have been found guilty? You know what I mean? Right. Because and so she argues, which I understand too, it's like nobody knows. But she also argues like, hey, I was in a fucking terrible place. They could have put me on the stand and who knows what I would have said.

Like, I was not well. And so she's like, maybe it's for the best I didn't testify. Like, we don't know. So either way, they were both sentenced in his own words, Sandy said, his lawyer spoke this on his behalf, that he was too much of. of a coward to come clean and that he acted out of fear and panic. Okay. The judge called the brothers selfish and cowardly and Tony's family received a six-figure payout

from the car insurer, car insurer, which is standard in the UK, I guess, for motor vehicle fatalities. Caroline and several other people have, in the justice system as well, have criticized the police for failing to protect her and to saying like, and for asking her to go undercover on their behalf and then giving her like. And not even be helpful, like just like. Totally. And then threatening to arrest her. It's like this is this is the shit you see like this harassment. And and so, you know, she was really going through her. She's like, well, they wanted me to help, but then I had to pretend to be on their side. But then I kind of was and I was on drug. I mean, the whole thing was a mess. And these men who were like, well, she had a doctorate. It's like, fuck you. Like, she was wearing a phone. Like truly back the fuck. You know, like she was asking for it. Like, fuck you. So anyway, as of 2026, as far as we know, Caroline lives by the sea. She is sober now. And she is. in a new relationship with a man that she describes as kind.

Good. So that is the story. And talk about ups and downs, man. Did you watch, first of all, well done telling you that. Oh, well, thank you. I mean, it was a, it tells itself, really. Did you, um, see the movie, the drama? I don't think so.

It just like, it just came out like not too long ago. Um, but, it had Zendaya and Robert Pattinson in it. Oh. Was it good? It is. It's not exactly this situation, but it is very, there were similar notes. Hmm.

Basically, they're about to get married and they decide they're going to tell each other, like, what's the worst thing either of us have ever done? Oh my God, that was like the conversation that they had to start this whole thing. Be careful, people. Yeah. and like Robert Pattinson is like this like just very don't don't no spoilers well no just he's like just he's like just this very goofy guy and like can't even think of anything and then she ends up having something something adjacent to this I won't say her secret totally similar but but then he I mean

the whole movie is him grappling with like how do I marry somebody with this and for that's wow it's very um and it's a good movie if you it's it's certainly um a conversation piece. I saw it with my mom and it was a good talk. It was very topical, I think. It's a, let's just put this way. It's a question that a lot of people in the next generation might,

not a lot, but someone will have to have this conversation in the next. Oh my God. I'm going to watch this. Literally, I'm going to hang up on you and watch this now. I'm so curious. It's very topical.

That's all I'm going to say. And it's a really good conversation start at the end. But it's, I think. That's all we need. more conversation starters. Yeah, no, I don't think it's a conversation to have here, certainly. But, you know, it's worth it.

If you watch it with somebody, it'll make you guys talk afterwards. Ooh, okay. Movie club. But no, great, great storytelling. What a disaster of a story, though. I know, man. And it's just like, it's just a train wreck, really. Did you, where is she now?

she's um you said she's living by the sea mm-hmm great place to live don't I know it I always wanted to live by the sea I wouldn't I wouldn't know it but um well good job christine what are what are your plans for the rest of the day man leona's at the zoo so I think I'm going to watch this movie the drama and just like talk to myself what are you going to do um I'm sure there's something I need to

There's the whole other side of this bench is a nightmare, so I probably should clean. Please don't. I don't know. I'll see. Depends on my mood. I need to eat something at some point. So do I. Anyway.

Exciting. Yeah. Nothing really crazy is going on right now. Remember when we would record and then like go to, what was that thing, the outside movies? Oh, street food cinema? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay, that happened like twice, but still.

That's coming up. I think it actually starts. next week. So I remember there was a day I got my tattoo. I think we went with like Matt and Chanel. Yes, see back to the future. That's right. Because it was our birthday weekend and you got the tattoo and I wanted to go see

back to the future in the park. That's right. And then someone stole that picture of Geo and got a bunch of credit for it on Reddit. I forgot about that. In the back to the future subreddit. I was like, that's my dog. No, I, one of my, I have the dog park. I told you I'm throwing Hank a bark mitzvah for his B-Day next month.

I told you that. Uh-uh. Oh yeah, because he's technically going to be 13, right? My God. So he's going to have a bark mitzvah. I'm going to make everyone at the dog park play Dradle. That's nuts. I'm so excited.

What the fuck? He has a bandana that says nice Jewish boy, which I love. I'm trying to find him a, well, we have talked about this because I remember saying Yarmica and then trying to turn it into pomica and then it not working. That was not me. Hmm. Well, I still, I did it again. Maybe it was a weird dream we both had, but I,

I don't remember it. Maybe, but we're going to, it'll be fun. And he's, I'm also at some point, I've decided I'm now just the mayor of the dog park because I'm going to start throwing events there. And my first event is going to be a spelling bee at the dog park. Shut. Wait, for whom? For the dogs?

No. Can you imagine? Well, I mean, I don't know. What else would you host event at a dog park? I don't understand. Well, you know, the people of the dog park are friends and just to prevent You're hosting a spelling bee. Just going to shove everyone into a spelling bee.

I want to do the spelling bee. I would win the spelling bee. Some people have already told me there. I mean, I've announced it to people. I'm like, a spelling bee's coming. So like if you're here that day, you're going to be a part of the spelling bee. I guess. I'm not, I warned people that a spelling bee would be there eventually.

That's really, really, really evil. I mean, if they don't want to do it. I'm excited about that. If they don't want to do it, they don't have to, but I will be asking everyone there on a busy day who wants to be part of the spelling bee. And a lot of people have already volunteered. spelling be. I was just trying to think of something that would require no money. Oh.

Because I also thought eventually I'd like to do a bingo there. People have said they want to do a trivia. A movie in the park so that all the dogs can be there, but we can also watch a movie. Okay. Okay. Wait. So what's the first word of the spelling bee? I don't know, but I feel like I got to start easy.

People have requested to start easy. Which it's got to get harder and harder. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know how easy to start. Like, are we just spelling dog? like that's not fair yeah yeah you can telehealth me in and then i'll um i'll participate that way um i do have a couple people who have already said that they will participate in the first round only because they will not make it pass the first round they uh they can't spell dogs do not claim to be good spellers

um but no i'm very excited i've been talking about it for a while i started a walking group there oh my god i really have become a bit of like the pta parent at the oh wow you're like event coordinator. But, no, there's like a group of us that all do laps together and. Oh, my God. You're like mall walkers. Yeah. We are like mall walkers, but for the dog bark walkers.

And then, um, no, it's, so I was like, oh, what else could we do? And I said spelling bee and everyone was like, that'd be the most random one. And I was like, okay, well, I'll do that next. So I think I'm going to do the bark mitzvah in May. Then from my birthday, maybe it'll be the spelling bee because that's a good reason to force people to do things. It feels like my birthday is a spelling. B. I never thought you'd have a spelling bee birthday, but yeah, it sounds right down my alley. Preferably, I'd like to host a drunk spelling bee, but I can't get people to get drunk in

public. You're not going to get wasted in the dog park. Yeah, that'd be a little troublesome. Know that that's my next step. This is just the practice spelling bee. Oh, this is to get your just like handle on the event space. And then I like throwing little events. I never get to do it anymore. So I, that's the dog park. People seem to be fine with it. Exciting. Yeah. exciting. Yesterday I went early and we cleaned up the park because the fox tails are out. And so we did a whole cleaning crew situation. Oh, and you're taking care of the space.

I love this. It's part of my every fucking day. So I might as well learn to like it. And I'm trying to make it more fun by things like it's probably me. Well, if ever you bury a body, I'd know where to look. Yeah. Well, Hank's body will probably be buried there one day with a nice little grave that I tend to. Oh.

Anyway, I don't know how we got here, but that's what I'm doing today is the dog part because it's all I do. Fantastic. Well, you say hi to your constituents. I'm going to go lay down. Thank you. Other than that, yeah, tell Gio I say hi. Hank says hi. He'll know what it means.

He'll know what it means. Tell him, Hank says. Gio says, ah. That's what he does. I'm not going to tell Hank because he'll take that personally, but he should. Yeah. It's pretty rude. Okay, and that's why we drink.

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