And That's Why We Drink - E495 Triple Trampoline Entendres and Juniper Hauntings

Episode Date: August 23, 2026

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Do you have a drink? I do, I do. Thank you for asking. Otherwise, this all falls apart. Otherwise, what are we even doing here? I even have my cowboy lap desk. Oh, I still have TikTok open under my butt. Cool.

It's been open for how it's the video. Tell us the video. What's your algorithm at right now? It's so embarrassing. Tell us. It's called a little confidence boost for you. But I'm learning about the goddess Anana and Ishtar, which actually, that's why it's paused on TikTok because I was Googling Ishtar. And I went down a rabbit hole about Ishtar.

And then I was like, oh, I'm going to pray to Ishtar. So I lit some incense and prayed to Ishtar. And then I was like, oh, we have to record. So that's how that all happened. Great. Do you not do collections on, like, save folders of stuff on TikTok? I do all the time. But I think I was just like in the midst of the TikTok and I like started Googling it.

And then I was like, ooh, I want to light some incense. I mean, the ADHD thing is very strong today. Um, big news on my phone front, I got a new case and I've literally become a 50 year old woman. Show me. Show me. Show me. This is the color. But wait a minute.

It's the, it's the necklace purse thing. I can't stop myself. And so now, you don't know about these? I think every, every mother in the world probably has one. But seeing them on like, they, I saw them for a day on my TikTok ads and I was like, no, I'm not interested. I am. It's literally... I guess so.

I mean, it looks like I'm carrying a little purse, but like, but I never have to put my phone in a pocket. I can just drop it out of my hands and it just hangs there. And then when I'm ready, I just go... I mean, I do that, but I have this. Okay. That's just the bracelet version instead of the necklace version. Yeah, it's kind of just like I hang in on my arm. What's the little kid at?

Like a clutch. Oh, look at this angry birthday cat. I love this case so much. Beautiful. I just felt it in my bones. With love, I could see Leona impersonating that pretty good. She was so excited when I picked the case because I did not pick it for her. And I took it home and she was like, I like that.

And I was like, I've passed the test. I mean, it reminds me a grumpy cat. So it is like, but like in like a cute, chic version, you know. Yeah, modern. My mom would call that funky, funky cat. All right. Well, now I, listen, now you're talking like a six year old woman. So please put it out.

Oh my God. I'm telling you, you know what? You laugh, but she's real useful. And also, by the way... I'm happy for you. Where did you get the case? It was like online or like at the store? No, I thought I'd find one online.

I ended up finding this... I couldn't tell you the name now. It was one of those funky phone boutique little places where you got the cases. Oh, geez. Wow, so you really went eclectic. You know, but I feel like... Did you try them on before? That's why I'm asking.

Was it like a fitting room? No, I actively wanted a phone. This is, like, in 10 years. this will be laughable that everyone's all about this color right now, the forest green. Somebody clip, somebody clip this. Well, hang on for the future, so I can just hate myself. Hello. Do we need more reasons?

By the way, I just threw it away. I just threw my phone away. I didn't have to worry about it. Yeah, it looks like it hit you right in the stomach, though, when it rebounded on that silicone strap. Please stop. Do you like this? You like what's happening here?

No, I don't think that's a good idea. You look like Steve Irwin, but. not it's really I don't even know what you could mean by that well it's like you look like you have either a lanyard

or some sort of like leash device I don't know it does you know I wish they made like some like a cooler strap or I could look like an adventurer or something

hey dude they do I promise you you mean I don't need this like slightly bedazzled cord they make everything what are you talking about I wish they made

a cooler strap for fun. You know, I love her. Maybe not at the funky boutique you went to, but I was just saying, uh, I was just, you buy like a Hena shirt also while you were there. No, I was saying a life is good sweater perhaps.

You know, that's funky for like men on vacation as a life is good shirt. They eat those up our Tommy Bahama. Or divorced dads who buy them for you as a tourist gift. Absolutely. So they go on business trips with their new girlfriend. That's where I got most of mine. I have it from the Bahamas, which was cool, though. Really? What did it say? Life is good?

How did you know? By the way, by the way, fun fact, life was not good. Well, and that's why we drink, right? Life was not good for anybody. Do you want to tell people why life is not good for you this week? Why do you drink? Oh, absolutely. I would love to. So I'm drinking my vitamin water, as you know, my favorite. And the pink is my favorite flavor, but it's caffeinated, so I have to be careful. What's the pink flavor?

Kiwi strawberry focus. Damn. It works obviously not. But yeah, so today I drink because we are about halfway through the last week of summer break. And it's like sad and exciting because it's like, aw. Do you think, so this next year she'll be going into kindergarten? Still preschool. She's like right at the cutoff age.

So she, it's like a few. days within her birthday but the other it's like a better fit anyway she's like with kids closer to her age but does she still do the thing where i'm only asking because it's it's top news in alison's family group chat right now but um Allison's niece is going into preschool for the first time this week um and there's a lot of tears it has is leona no longer crying when you leave she like all chill or she's well she's a double libra so like she's a social butterfly her whole her whole whole thing is like I just want to see my friends, which is great. But sometimes I'm her friend and she's like, I just want to see my friend, mom, because we have so many things to do. And I'm

like, it is like 6 a.m. or whatever, you know, whatever the case may be or like, it's time for school. I know I'm your friend or whatever, but you have other friends that are more your size. Pick on someone your own size. I say to her. That's very funny, Christine. Thank you so much. What the fuck? I hope that was not a person. Girl, I can't do this. No. What are you talking about? Okay, the roofers are here and I just saw this massive thing like fall from above a tree past my window and hit the ground.

But nobody's yelling or screaming. So I think it must have been just their supplies. Yeah. It was a huge like rucksack size thing or person size thing. What are they chopping down? Maybe it was a part of that. They're not chopping anything. They're just trying to repair the roof.

And they've been trying to repair the roof and then that tornado came through. And I had to scream at them to get off the effing ladder. because this ladder was still up to the third floor and this like tornado winds were coming through. A tree landed on a car outside my house and smashed it. Like it was insane. I'll tell. I'll tell. In the group chat, Christine, literally we had been recording that day and you said, oh, like a storm's coming through where it's kind of rainy right now.

I was like, I love this weather. And then like the next. The very next thing I see is Christine taking a picture in the storm cellar. It's like pitch black. Pitch black. Looking up into like the real actual house. Like you're just hiding in like that. Juniper and Moonshine were sneaking over the edge.

That scary haunted fucking spot you never even want to be in. You were standing in there. It must have been bad if you were down there. By the way, I was home alone. So I was opening the trap door and I kept screaming like, I'm an independent woman. A strong independent. Because I'm like the trapdoor is like the side. I mean, it's like eight feet.

It's huge. It's like a huge. Maybe not eight. It's big. It's big. It's pretty damn big. You have to like really sometimes takes two people. And then you have to prop it up with this huge like plank.

I mean, it's insane. And so I was like, here, Katie, Katie. And they're just standing there. And meanwhile, like, trees are literally coming down, like, through people's glass shattering. It was crazy. And our power went out for, like, until the next afternoon. Like, it was out for, for, like, 24 hours, which was really horrible. That's scary.

You know, it's, there's worse things in this world, I know. but man it's been that was yeah that feels like 10 years ago now but um so they're back from their trip and now leona's home and she's back with her friend mom and i'm back with my friend leona we have a lot of fun uh today the trampoline was out and she was like that little the mini kids one and like she was just jumping on the trampoline in the living room for like two hours i mean bothering me the whole time so it wasn't like a peaceful two hours but i was like how do you move so much for so long. Like I just don't the energy.

I mean, I don't. I'm also like a very like, I need a lot of rest. I'm very like I don't want that. I agree. I agree. I was like trampoline park then the zoo, then the aquarium, then the museum, then the. I don't even think I want that much energy. Like that's too much.

It's like my bones hurt just thinking about it. I don't. Yeah. I want more energy than what I have, but I don't need that. My mom's like that, I guess. Like I'm not like that. I'm like, let me just lay here. I fucking love just laying here.

But I know one day she'll get there, right? Because she's like four and I'm like she has so much energy. She's a kid. She has like so much excitement about things, you know. But like I can't wait for when she's a little older. We can because we do have those moments where we're both just kind of like chill in. And I'm like, oh my God, it's happening. And then like five minutes later it's kind of the magic is shattered.

But the illusion is shattered when she's like, where's my? Jesus. I feel like eventually one day she'll not be asking you for cheese it. That's not true. I've seen you ask your mom for cheese. I'll be asking her for cheese. It's like while you're up, girl, we'll be asking each other for Jesus, which is really the most beautiful type of relationship, you know.

Yeah, I don't know when it started for me, but I remember lying on the couch and just watching TV specifically at Law & Order Rescue with my mom. And I remember thinking, this is so nice. I never really want to do anything else ever again. So it clicks eventually. That's so beautiful. I like, I can't wait for that. And I know that that's my future because.

we are already really annoyingly, like, in sync about things. It's funny you mentioned that, by the way, the, uh, not that I'm not like trying to do anything, but my algorithm, I think, is trying to thrust it upon me, um, is trying to sell me a trampoline. And, and I thought you were going to say have a kid and I was like, whoa. No, no, no. Yet a trampoline is hilarious. Well, they're calling them, uh, this is clearly like a, a diet culture situation where we're not

calling it a trampoline. Every video on my phone keeps calling it a rebounder. And I'm like, okay, girl, it's a trampoline. Oh, I've seen that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just a little one you put in your house, I guess. Yeah, yeah, like a fitness one. They are not selling you well because every time I see someone jumping on one of those things,

I'm like, yuck, that looks exhausting. Like, I'm like, why would I do that? Yeah, that's not the fun of a trampoline. The fun is, like, bouncing on your butt and, like, laying on it and playing popcorn, like pretending it's like, or duck, dog-dougues, pretending, um, pretend someone going under the trampoline, um, looking at constellations and bats. Like there's so many other things that a rebounder's not going to give you. And that's why it's called a rebounder, I think. I think so. It's just not as fulfilling as the original. I'm sure it means

something like rebounding on your journey or some shit like that, but I don't. No, no, it's because it's bouncy, but we're not going to talk about that. I think it's a double entendre. I think it's a triple entendre really. I think so too. Well, I mean, it's funny that you mentioned like all the things that you can do in a trampoline and you literally listed just looking at the sky because I'm saying just like not moving on it is mostly what I want to. to do on it. Like again, I see a trampoline. My first thought is how can I be horizontal on this? So like I'm... Yeah, precisely. Hopefully the algorithm moves away. Making your hair stand up on end. Like, again, there's so many things you can do that are not vertically moving, you know?

God, you speak in my language. I know, right? I mean, as you'll know, notice, if you're watching this on YouTube, I am in my bedroom and I'm in my bed because these roofers that may or may not still be with us have been using my office as like the, I was going to say like the escape patch. It's like a window. They're just using the window, but they climb out like, I mean, I'm telling you, this is like really high off the ground. So they keep climbing in and out of it. And I was like, I will not be able to focus on a single thing if I'm watching this. They won't be able to either. They'll be walking past a live podcast. They'll be going. No. They'll be like, we actually didn't consent to being part of this recording you're doing. And I'd be like, you're right.

They're just listening to like horrible traumas and true crime. And every time they walk by, you get a little louder with like, and then he broke into the house, but then he got stabbed. And like, just let them know where they are. Have you seen that video of the guy? Like people walking past me when I'm leaving my friend a voice note. And it's like, yeah, but then they swat. Like, yeah, her head wasn't actually attached. And then he goes like, oh, hi, how are you?

And so he was like, hi, how are you? I love that it's a universal experience at this point. I think it must be. Well, so wait, why do you drink? Did we answer that? Oh, yeah. It's the last week of summer break. So it's like we're literally like pulling out all the stops as in like jump on the trampoline inside.

Like we're just trying to get all the energy out. So she's currently at some other activity that's talk or two. So I'm I'm here in bed doing what I like to do. So, you know, it's kind of like give and take with this last week of summer break. I do have a countdown on my phone, I have to admit. Good for you. I would. To hell the first day of school, because it does make life a bit easier when it comes to working and scheduling. But otherwise, we're having a lot of fun and I just love her being four. It's so much fun. Like I just, it's like crafting and like she just dances and puts on shows and it's just fun, you know. Well, you say you like her being four, but guess what happens very soon? What's that? She turns five. I know, crazy.

A friend last night was like We were like at her birthday dinner And she said to her other friend like Oh Christine has an almost five year old And I went, don't say that Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down Yeah, five is crazy

Baby is turning one on Leona's birthday They have the same birthday Fun And so she was like, well, she's almost one And I was like, yeah, but like give me a few more minutes With four, you know, almost five is almost five is there's something about five that feels like

such a milestone. Kindergarten doesn't it? Yeah it's like you're fully on your baby ears but Leona has a calendar now it's Hello Kitty themed for some reason she loves it. It's just pink and purple and glittery and she has she's so excited for October because the first day is her birthday

the last day is Halloween and she's like and everything else is in between and I was like you get it you fucking get it and I love this. You did seemingly plan to have a baby right at the beginning of spooky season. I manifested. Also, her due date was October 1st, so I manifested that. You were so punctual.

What can I say? Well, this is the first time. I've been punctual to much of anything, but she's pretty punctual, I guess. You could say. Good for her. Good for her. Why do you drink? Oh, why do I drink?

Or did you give? I'm like trying to remember. in the maze of I know we're lost already but I don't remember where we were before this I don't remember either which is probably why we're lost I drink I drink a little a little black tea with some sugar nice yummy yummy sugar um I got is it a hot or ice it's iced uh I had to get it get it from the bean today so um oh nice oh that good ice good good pebble ice yeah yeah yeah and uh I really how this a coffee bean I really highlight the sugar in this because since it's an iced tea and it began,

it's never had a time for the sugar to melt in it when it was hot and then become iced tea. So it's a lot of granules at the bottom. And now I'm half to play the game where I like kind of go bobbing for apples with the straw. You know what I'm saying? I loathe that game. But then when I'm actually drinking it, I'm like, ooh, like pumps of sugar. Winzy. Like a horse.

Like, ooh. You know? Like, I'm like, I hate this because I know I'll become. kind of a horse in a moment. Yeah. Maybe why I hate it. Because I'm like, I'm about to have a good time. And I kind of wish I could control myself.

But then I'm like, now I'm just drinking clumps of sugar, you know. I understand. No, but I do. I also get the horse experience from like, this isn't that bad now that I'm doing it. I'm like, I get it. Until I run out of sugar and then I'm like, well, what is this drink even for? Yeah. And then you're like, ew.

Why? I know. Just put a big sugar in my in my cup. Um, why I drink? Uh, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think. Well, there's a good reason I drink. Allison's parents are in town and they, uh, are, I'm not allowed to know anything,

so I can't give any details even if I wanted to. But as you all recall, we have a SpookyZ in our house or it's always been tentatively called the Spookyzy. Yes, of course. And we've made really no contributions to the decoration of the Spook Easy, except for our Secret Passageway bookcase. Which like already. speaks for it's I mean what do you call that the centerpiece like what's the main like

attraction in a room like the well the peace de resistance yeah yeah yeah um so I know about the bookcase I'm the one that put that in so that's so far I know all of the way yeah so I know the entrance of the room because of the bookcase but I don't know anything past that I've always had the door closed and Allison had all these ideas and I was like I don't want to know a thing I just want to be surprised when you figure out everything you want to do And I guess her plans were very elaborate. And so mom and dad, the architects, have stopped by across the country and are, they're at Home Depot right now and they're buying all sorts of wood. I don't know what's going to happen in there.

This is exciting. Is someone filming a TikTok that I can watch and that we can all watch or no? I wish. Because I love a home runo. Every time Allison does something really creative in her personal free time, I'm like, you got to be filming all this stuff. But she doesn't do it. I don't know what's... She does their TikToks, though.

they're awesome. She does it for her for her woodworking business. Oh, but just for other stuff. But for other stuff. Yeah, like she's decorating a whole room. I hope she's filming it, but I don't know. Well, and also she's so good at like the editing too. I'm always like, how do you like hop on these trends and stuff?

She's a good one, yeah. But I know there's a fireplace in there because I got the fireplace. It was actually originally frowned here, but then we realized nothing makes it spookier than if you've got a nice little cobblestone fireplace. So certainly not. That's involved and everywhere I look there's just scraps of paper with like measurements and dimensions

and like whoa this is so exciting i don't know what's going to yeah they're like pro pros people like they're like that's their whole bag right yeah and uh sidebar too we're officially going to be starting our addition to the house soon so which they also designed that was their man that I mean I know that like it seemed like a while but that feels like it's going pretty good like Going quick. You've got a lot of work going on with the house. We've been hesitant about whether or not we should start the project. Right.

And so now we're deciding that we're just going to commit and get it going. Anyway, a lot of house stuff going on over here. But that's why I drink, I guess. You want to look at your astrology chart. I'm going to look at, can I look at your astrology chart during the yap hour to see your chart to see what the solar eclipse right now is hitting for you to see if it's like house stuff? Isn't it? It's Virgo season right now, right?

and I'm part Virgo. Does that mean anything? Um, isn't it Leo season my friend still? I don't know anymore. It's definitely still Leo. Virgo and Leo I'll never know when it starts and ends. And I always flip on.

Hello, Leo's in August. Think about it. The sun. They're just fucking. When's Virgo? Oh, September. 9-11. Oh, fuck.

Okay. That's how I do it. Jesus. Sorry, Pergo's. And I'll never forget it again. Do you know why? Three people in our, in my close life, are Virgo's and all their birthdays are 9-11 so I'm like well sorry that's how I'm gonna remember it for now yeah but I have a I have an

August for a go in my life so I always that's where I get totally I don't I don't understand that that parts to me you're still kind of a Leo so I don't get it that's like May Geminize I'm like what are we doing getting in June that get over here please I've never met you before I don't understand um yeah probably because they avoid us on the street but anyway but yes that'd be a great yappy hours to look up what's going let's look at your birth chart I'm curious to see so yeah we're not in Virgo season let's be very clear about that we're in Leo season still because Leo's are going to care about that. Okay.

Actively. Got it. And Virgos are going to love that I said that they're just 9-11, but. Never forget. I'm learning more. I'm learning more. I will never forget. Yeah.

Help. Okay. Want to tell me a story? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I actually don't want to tell you a story. Instead, I want to tell you some bullet points I got from an article I read.

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Gotcha, gotcha, got to. I stumbled upon in my free time a listicle and I went, well, I'm just going to read this listicle for, for, I love it. So this is very easy. It's not a quickie because after the one listicle, I was like, well, let me see how many of these I can find. It sort of feels like early in. That's why we drink vibes sometimes.

Love that. Where we were like, what's interesting, you know? I'm very glad you said that because I was worried that this was. a silly thing to do. But today my therapist said, oh, Jonestown. And I said, oh, that was my first ever podcast episode was on Jonestown. And then she was like, oh, my God, I did a grad school project on Jonestown. And I was like, we're both really excited right now about Jonestown.

Maybe we need to change the tone. But it was a weird conversation. I still always think, what was it? It was never drinking the Kool-Lay. It was flavoring. I said it was flavoring and she said and it was grape and I was like girl no wonder at my therapist you get me you're on the same page listen it takes two very abnormal people to understand one another and I think I've have that with yeah a couple people and the Jonestown thing is a good threshold test for that so

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Well, so this is, I don't even know how to title it. I'm just going to call it, this is a smattering of haunted fast food restaurants. Very silly. This is cool. We have quite a few to get through, but they're all very short. Like, I think each of them are like a sentence or two because... Oh, I'm sad, as the kids say. Thank you. Well, as my mom says, this is going to get funky. So what happened today. I feel like I'm the one. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. I'm the one referencing TikToks and like. I know. I don't know what happened. Well, I got this damn phone lanyard and all my life changed. Um, no, it's really because I told my mom has this, a favorite type of restaurant she goes to it. While Allison's family's in town, we're going to a lot of restaurants. And I've been saying like, oh, I take my mom here. You know, when,

when she's in town and, uh, because she loves to call things funky. If she really loves it and wants to go, it's a funky restaurant. Oh, because it's like she, like,

it's like hip and cool. Yeah. Well, that's, that's her, anything that looks like boutique and modern and it's playing like,

like, weird like, like DJ beat music. Yes. Yes. And if there's like a marquee light, oh my God, she loses her mind.

A marquee light. And so we went to home in Los Feliz. Oh, which literally it says, There's no place like home and home is written in marque lights. Oh, I remember, yeah, back 10 years ago, that was like the spot for a photo, a little photo up. And in the restaurant, there's a tree in the middle of the restaurant and a pond. It's very funky.

And so, anyway, it became this thing while the whole time Allison's family's here every time we got, like, we're gauging if the restaurant's funky. Like Linda approved. I'm so happy home. Is home still there? Yeah, we went yesterday. Oh, you, okay, okay. I didn't know how recent though. I fucking love that place.

It was a great place. It was walking distance from your old. place, your old place. Yes, it was. We used to go there all the time. Yeah, it was very good. It was still very yummy. Is Alcove gone? I feel like Alcove most of those. I was on the same street. I don't know. I probably, because I haven't seen it in a while, but now home has a side restaurant or like they expanded and it's a bar and it's called guest house. Oh, cute. Oh, home and guest house. I love that. Yeah. It's funky. It's so funny. And then Allison's Bob was trying to like get in on the the funky joke, but like, I don't think she knew yet that it meant like, she was like,

this food tastes funky. And I went, okay. Well, the food tastes funky. It smells funky in here. No. Anyway, so here we go. These are some fast food restaurants. And again, because they're not like 100-year-old castles, there's not a lot of history of these. I'm really just giving you kind of bullet points like this listicle. That's what I want. Okay. That's what I want. Do you have a favorite fast food restaurant while we're here? I'm going to have to make small talk with you because this is going to go quick uh sure do let me think i well it's hard because i don't really what do we usually order i love culvers sure but i love a cheese curd but then what did we order

when we were oh sonic i love sonic i do love sonic we did a lot of sonic in our day i think sonic is like maybe my fave um i love taco bell too but i know there's the the current taylor farms nonsense happening or whatever but yeah yeah i love i love talking about too i mean i'm surprised you didn't mention uh old reliable every morning fucking macdonald's breakfast on the road i think i'm traumatized about that maybe we probably had macdonald's breakfast 300 times together on the on our fucking tours literally like i can't imagine that would ever be my favorite right now in this time of my life maybe when i'm 80 and i forgot about it i'm like hmm that sounds good there were days but there were times when we were on the road and...

And I'd be like car sick and Eva be car sick and hungover and like... Literally in the drive-through, we haven't even ordered yet and we're groaning about how we don't want to fucking eat this. We're like, please. And we don't want to go to where we're going. We don't want to be alive. But there's nothing else open and we got to get to the airport. Basically three siblings in the car.

Eva's the middle child trying to make everybody happy. We're just like, meh. The only exciting time was the Canadian. mc-poulet incident. Oh, yes. We were at the border and Eva picked up a chicken nugget. What did she said?

I just kept saying everything. Is this a chicken nugget? And we were all. That's right. We kept saying Mick Poulet. And so she finally picked up a chicken nugget to get in on the joke. And she was driving us through a Canadian border. And she turns around.

She goes, is this a chicken nugget? And we all kind of like paused. And we were like, yes. It was not understanding. She was trying to say, is this a mic, a m'u-le? But she just said, is this a chicken nugget? We were like, are you okay? What happened here?

Yeah, there was not, there needed to be more crossover understanding, I think, because I really, I was so jazzed to try McDonald's at another location and they had McPulets, McChickens. Man, but it was in French. So every time there was chicken, we would say McPulet, she was not grasping it right away. She got there. She just took a second. She just said it wrong. Is this a chicken nugget?

We were like, yeah, that's literally. And she's like, that's not what I was even trying to. Yeah, it was very silly. But so I do, I like a McDonald's every now. I love a snack wrap, but like I'm really trying not to eat meat anymore. It kind of makes my tummy. I just not into it. Really try not to eat meat anymore.

So like, chicken just is not it anymore for me. So I've like kind of moved away from McDonald's. There's not much there that's like, like at least at Taco Bell and stuff, you can get like potatoes, beans, cheese, you know, block stuff that's like not meat. I talked about you got a B and C, a bacon cheese. Burrito. Or bacon, sorry, bean and cheese burrito. Yes, exactly. Like bean and rice cheese, yeah, good stuff.

Or crunch her up with, like, potatoes. Oh, my God. My old boss, Renee, was obsessed with B and C's. Every chance she could get, she would have a B&C in her inner purse, I think. Okay, McDonald's. Me too. That does sound relatable, yeah. She was a hoot when it came to talk about.

Okay, McDonald's. There's four different locations we're going to talk about. I lied. There's three. One I think is going to be next week's story because it felt like there was a little more pun intended meat to this. Hey. So the three that I'm going to talk about, there's one in Quiro, Texas. And it used to be a gas station.

When it was a gas station, two deaths happened here. There was a little boy. I'm so sorry, everybody. That was, I'm so sorry, everybody. Accidentally ran over by his mom. I'm so sorry, everybody. Oh my God. It was in the 60s, and I think he just got in, he was either in front of the car or behind the car, and she didn't know.

That's terrible. Just lost sight of him for a second. The second death was when it was a gas station, I guess they also had the mechanical car lifts, so they could lift the car up and maybe do some under the car stuff. And a mechanic who worked there. Oh, no. Accidentally got crushed by one of the lifts. And this is weird, but I guess in that same 24-hour period, the cops were actually looking for him to arrest him because, allegedly, he killed his own six-year-old daughter. What is going on?

A lot of children stuff already. Yeah, I don't love that. So at this one location before it was McDonald's, two little kids were somehow tragically killed or involved in. Somehow died and... tragic circumstance seems like. So now this McDonald's is apparently very haunted. One of the main things that happens is the toilets flush themselves, which I guess if you're a kid stuck on this fucking property,

you're going to keep just flushing toilets or doing something silly. See what goes down, see what floats. And also the walk-in fridges turn themselves off from the inside. Oh. I don't like that. I don't like that at all. And you have to go in and look. Oh, no.

no. I really don't like when the fridge turns off and then all of a sudden I can't have my food because now it's all not cold. I was going to say then it's suddenly all bad. Yeah, that's not good either. That has to be such a logistical nightmare for the manager. Agreed. Then also just general weird sounds is what happens there. And that's the end of that McDonald's. That's how quick this is going to go. I love this. But I thought I've never covered this. So I ought to do it. So this McDonald's is in I, Idabell, Oklahoma. Okay. Okay. And there's a little girl who is seen going into the men's bathroom before opening hours. I guess multiple times it's always around 5 a.m. And a little girl has always seen going in there. And not coming out, which is eerie. Yeah, it's strange. She's also blamed for the toilets flushing themselves all at once. Very weird that's happening at two McDonald's.

thing. Also, all at once is weird. Yes, she didn't have enough hands for that. How do you do that? I don't like that. That feels also very moaning Myrtle. Yeah. Well, I guess we just gave her a nickname. But that's also, that's just in the women's bathroom. So she seemed going into the men's bathroom, but in the women's bathroom, all the toilets flush themselves. I mean, but like you said, maybe there's just multiple people doing this prank or whatever, because if there's how many corporeal, I mean, I don't know. I guess it is a ghost you can maybe just not you can just get touch four things at once I don't know and you know what's crazy is the fact that we still think well they must be physically touching the handles like they might

maybe dumb I'm like that's probably not even how that works mentally just go okay everyone flush and it just yeah except not mentally just or a psychically yeah or a sometimes I feel like that happens when I'm in a public bathroom and it flushes for no fucking reason when I'm still sitting on it and I'm like oh and then you feel the weird wet breeze hit your bun But oh, get out of here. God, and you're like, now I've never been dirtier in my life. I'm just saying there going. I am in this moment.

I'm just saying they're like, I didn't ask for this. Make it stop. And I don't know if you recall or Eva would recall, but when I was on the road, I really have a problem with public restrooms, but sometimes you've got to go. And so everywhere we went, I carried a little wiceaw spray and like wet wipes and stuff. And I was like, this tool is going to be as clean as it possibly can before I'm sitting in on it if I have to sit on it. Wow.

Oh. And then all of a sudden that weird, like, backwash toilet spray would hit me in the button. I'm like, this is hell. This is like the exact opposite of everything I just prepped. Anyway. You just have to lice all your butt now. Sorry.

I have to. It happens. It happens. Also, the restaurant will sometimes feel very cold out of nowhere. The employees say that the computer will turn itself on after they've turned it off for the night. And in the women's bathroom, they hear a lot of laughter when the store is closing. So there's just playing neopets in there on that computer.

Just giggling, yeah. Another McDonald's in Vancouver, this one really gets me going. I like this one. This is probably where we got that fucking McPooley. I'm saying it like that on purpose. I'm sorry. The McPooleigh where Eva, so is this a chicken nugget? That may have been, because we were in Vancouver.

Oh, well, you're going to see in a second why that, why, What if we went to this McDonald's it's haunted? That's cool. You're saying a lot. We probably didn't. Hang on. Hang on a second. I'm like, how many are there in Vancouver?

Only one, right? Well, yeah. So this McDonald's was only open for a year in 1986. Okay, so like it could have been. And it was, they opened it for Vancouver's Expo, Expo, Expo 86, which I think is funny because 86 is like a dining slang, right? Like 86 the food. I think I thought you did oh is that a dining thing I thought it was just you 86 something means you get rid of it I didn't know it was dining dining related oh yeah it's a it's in diners that you would like 86 a meal that's where it came from I think oh okay been big on diner lingo in the middle of the night so do you know what uh uh well what's the uh well what's the uh oh we'll do it's already yappy hour do know the line from emperor's new groove where he does like the I do know what you're in the kitchen.

He's like, too, yeah, I just watched that movie again recently. I watch it in times of high stress and I've watched it a lot recently. I'm like trying to memorize that little like two slinger or whatever, whatever. Yeah. I forget what the phrase for eggs is. I think, but I think it's Jack and Jill on a raft and wreck them, which means scrambled eggs on toast. Like, I love this. This is like peak content.

Thank you. I'm not kidding. I really do have a list that like when I'm bored, I just memorize like a new one. I promise you, I believe you. So maybe for Yappi R we'll do a birth chart thing and I'll read some of my diner lingoes and we'll make you guess what they are. Fun. That's fun.

That's fun. That's fun. So the, uh, this. Oh, I'm so stupid. Expo 86. It's because it was 1986. I'm literally such a stupid person. Well, I knew that.

I didn't understand why you were, but I'm so perplexed. Oh, okay. I really just wanted to make leaps and bounds, I guess. So for this expo, McDonald's spent $9 million on essentially a bail ship and tried to turn it into a floating McDonald's. Oh, that's what we're doing. And it got the nickname the McBarge, which is hysterical. And not a good name, but you know what it is when you hear it. And within that same year, it closed.

the whole point was for it to be like this big floating restaurant in the ocean and which I have seen that work as um in lakes and rivers sometimes people have a floating hot dog cart that's a 10 out of 10 uh this is just thinking of the hooters in Newport which has um the boating the boat dock that just closed oh i don't know about that you'd you i would just use it we'd use the hooters dock to get on the boat fun um they closed i I have thought about just like leaving this life behind and opening a hot dog cart on the river. That, it feels like he probably makes millions, especially Fourth of July weekend. Forget it. Yeah, I think that would be like where we'd find you. You know, if like everything went topsy-turvy and like in the in the zombie apocalypse version of this story, we would eventually find you like selling hot dogs. I think so. And I'm not offended by that at all.

That feels like, that feels right. Yeah, and you'd be a multi-millioner probably. Imagine you have a little tugboat on the lake and you just sell ice cream. Are you kidding me? How do you not make money from that? Yeah, you'd be, and then you just hire someone to sell it for you so you can just buy an ice cream from your own business and just watch the world go by. Ziprecruiter.com.

American dream. Okay, so it only lasted a year. It eventually capsized last year, which that's the slowest sinking of a Mick Barge I've ever heard of. What do you mean? Like, it was just slowly sinking. Or it just finally... Literally closed in 1986 and just sat there and then capsized and sank. But I guess before it capsized, there was like a good 20 years when you could just

somehow get on it and go look around and explore. I mean, it was abandoned. So it wasn't actually haunted, but it looked like it should be haunted. I want to go on that, yeah. Well, now you cannot. She's gone. The fourth location is what I'm going to talk about next week. so I'm not going to say anything about that yet.

But now we're on to Pizza Hut. Oh, thank God. Pizza Hut, there's one in New York, in Center Reach, New York. Apparently, they've actually had investigators go into this Pizza Hut, which must have been the most fun investigation in the entire world. Seriously. The team did get footage of a spirit in the women's bathroom. Oh.

But other than that, well, one of the reasons they went into the bathrooms was because before this was a Pizza Hut, it was a jack-in-the-box. And a man died in there in the bathroom, and it was a jack-in-the-box. So that's why they were looking in the bathrooms. People hear whispering in the stalls, horrifying. People hear pots and pants throw themselves off the shelves. They feel cold spots. And this was a funny quote I got from, I think, Huffington Post.

It said, Google Maps says that the location is closed, but Huff Post successfully got a Pizza Hut employee on the phone when calling their delivery line. That said, Huff Post may have been talking to a Huff Ghost. I was like, well, that's clever. Now that's worth reading. Okay, so, and I did. So this is another pizza hut. This is in Glendale, Arizona.

And people hear crying babies. They hear children's voices. The faucets go on and off by themselves. A little girl is seen playing under the tables. This seems like it's a portal rather than like an incident happened or did an incident happen. I do think it's interesting that most things are happening in the bathroom. where there are several mirrors. Oh, mirrors.

I didn't even think of that. I was like toilets could be portals, I guess. Any sort of sewer lines or I don't know. But yeah, that makes sense too. The mirrors. Ooh, and then people in there doing like who knows what, you know, in public bathrooms, like spraying their own butts with Lysol and sickos like that. It could be anything.

It could be anything. I shiver at the thought. I shiver when the Lysol hits my tushy. Yeah. I go, yeah, same ditto. Oh, my God. Items fly off the shell. and this has been witnessed by multiple employees.

This isn't just one person talking about it. This is across the board. Former employees have said that that place is fucking haunted. And one of them actually thought that the building used to be a mortuary before it was a Pizza Hut, which is crazy. Yeah. I mean, that would make sense, too, if it wasn't a portal. It's either a portal or mortuary. And that's it.

Yeah. Okay, so that's it for Pizza Hut. Now we're on to Burger King. There's only one Burger King that I'm talking about. And it's in West Palm Beach. Wow. There was a janitor. who twice saw the apparition of a man who it was such a full-bodied operation.

He didn't even think it. He thought it was a living person. Yeah. And he saw a man after closing trying to steal money from Burger King. And he- Oh, like robbing the place. I guess so, yeah. It said stealing money.

It could have just been his money, like trying to pickpocket him or something. I'm not too sure. But- Well, robbing someone. Robbing someone. So he saw this young man trying to steal money in the restaurant. and then tried to chase him out of the building. But before he could get him out of the building, the man would vanish. And this happened twice to the same janitor.

Oh my God. And he's like this time? Yeah. It's like, you again? Come on. The second time feels personal. It does. And what's going to happen the third time?

He's not going to chase him, right? Well, after the second time, he quit. So I guess there was no third time. He quit? He was like, fuck this. I'm getting robbed by a ghost. I mean, I don't blame him. You're right.

I 100% don't blame him. I kind of, I would stick around a third time and be like, well, he's going to come back and I'm not going to chase him. I just want to see what he does. I would maybe quit and then just come back for lunch and see if the guy showed up again. You know, like, I'd be like, I'll just come back to like observe. Good point. Or I'd at least put, like, suggest a security camera gets put up, you know?

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. In 1999, the director of operations was asked if this place was haunted and said, if I had to guess, I would say that the kitchen is inhabited by a spirit that cannot pass to the other side until everyone in Palm Beach County stops by the store to buy a whopper value meal. Okay, yuck, promotion. I mean, okay, guy. You could have just said, no, I don't think it's haunted. Or yes, come see our ghost.

He had to use it the opportunity. You know that. Speaking of promotions, this is not this Burger King. I think it was across all Burger Kings. In 2022, for Halloween, they came up with such a good promotion. I'm very, I think it was so good. They have like a Burger King app. And in the app, to promote their ghost pepper whopper,

they put an EMF detector in their app. for you to go ghost hunting while you eat their ghost pepper walker. Fun! Now, that's a clever little idea. That was a... I was like, now, that's genius. No, we're talking. I never thought I'd download a fast food app.

Yeah, but I think I'm going ghost hunting tonight. That's a lie. I have the Chipotle app and the McDonald's app. Who am I kidding? Oh, I've always wanted one of those Chipotle black cards. You know about those? I don't even know. No. They have like a...

Like a VIP thing. Kind of. Well, so. it's a um i don't know i've i've heard about different cards it's like a chopoli black card a chippoly celebrity card there's a chippoly uh uh lifetime card they might all be the same card with different names i don't want that you want that i love chippole i i know so do i but it sounds depressing well apparently they only only like a hundred have been given out ever and those people you get like literally a lifetime of free burritos why would those people are already probably billionaires so

it's like who cares that hurts my feelings like they I want a free burrito let's well yeah people a lot of people want a free burrito you know I think actually I'd argue everyone wants a free burrito I don't know I I would like the opportunity to have a free burrito every single day I wouldn't use it like that but I'd like to say I had but then apparently there was one guy who'd used it like crazy when he got when he found out he had free Chipoli for life he was like everyone come to Chipoli blah blah blah, blah, and he bought all these, like, so much Chipoli, but he didn't realize that the stipulation was like, it's the price on that card is like the equivalent of a burrito a day. And he accidentally maxed out his lifetime card in like a year. And I'm like, whoopsies.

But like, come on. Like, how much, you can't, you're, you're really leaning. Like, you're leaning into it so far that's going to become, you're going to typecast yourself as like that Chipotle guy, you know. True. He already has. But I still, you know, I just want a lifetime card to something. Damn. You just want a car.

I know. You want a lifetime. I one time won a lifetime supply of Jimmy Neutron bubble gum, which was pretty cool. But then they sent it all at once. You're saying this 10 years in. Are you fucking kidding me? I've absolutely talked about this on the podcast. Tell me again.

I'll tell you again. The year was 2001. Uh-huh. I had discovered the magic of online sweepstakes. I won them all the time. Actually, I'm just realizing this today because I was just talking to my childhood friend about how much shit we manifested

because we didn't, we would call it hexing. And we didn't under, like, we were just like, it works. Like we would like hex people to have crushes back on, but it always, like, it would often misfire. But we were like, we would manifest like snow days, weather or, like, we would manifest shit constantly. And we would do like little spells and rituals and now I'm like, oh, we were just actively doing witchcraft all the time, which makes sense.

But so Celine and I were like doing all these things and I just started winning all these sweepstakes because I was like, I would like to, I want to win them. And I would just start winning them. And I won a signed Jump 5 CD. I won a pogo stick. Shut up. A lifetime supply of Jimmy Neutroft bubble gum. That one was the most random.

And then I wouldn't share it with anyone. No. They sent it all at once and I didn't share a single piece and then like we had to throw it all away because it was like how what was I going to do? Eat a year or a lifetime. No, it was a year's supply. Sorry, that's crazy. It was a year's supply, not a lifetime. But still, they sent it all at once. So I got 12 months worth of Jimmy Newton bubble gum like in boxes shipped to my house. I have to look up what it looks like. What was like the brand was like bubblish? It was like Nickelodeon, I think. Nickelodeon and it was in a Nickelodeon magazine. I'm quite confident. Oh my God. There's only a picture of him floating in gum. Oh my God. It was like and it was this, it was that terrible fruit. I remember because I started eating a lot of it.

It's fruit shapes? No, it wasn't fruit stripes. I don't think so. It was like it was a bubble gum. Wow. I'm so, this might. I'll find a picture. Favorite fact about you.

I guess I just never thought about it because I was like, I guess I was the only one entering these things. I don't know. but like I would win them Oh and then I won a telescope lens But that was also the day that I accident Oh I won a TV But then one day when I was doing when I won the telescope lens It was at a science no no like an astronomy convention

And I there was this bright light and I was being like annoying And it was a projector light and I walked in front of it and I was trying to like make my friend laugh And so I was like oh And I like stumbled backwards and suddenly this old man starts screaming and I'm like what about have I killed him no I bumped his display of his microscopic moon rock oh my god and it fell oh my god microscopic it was under a mic oh my it was under a microscope like people were like lining up to look into it I knocked it off the thing I would never go I would I would everyone started gathering around he was freaking out freaking out and my friend's

dad was like well if we get a magnet and the guy's like they're all magnetic because he had fallen on these other like rocks and we were like her dad was like we're going to go um and so that was the day i never got my telescope lens because we had to leave early because of the microscopic moon rock as an adult i would also be so mad as at a oh i get it i felt terrible i still feel terrible i literally he was like my life's work like he was losing it and i was like i got to go um no oh my god oh my god yeah so i've won a lot of random things but again, they misfire a lot. So. But, okay.

As someone who has worked in Nickelodeon studios in Burbank, California. Yeah, which I manifested also. Yeah. Insane. The ultimate sweepstakes that you could have won from them. I know. And then I was like, okay, I'm leaving. There has to be the person, there has to be a person that was in charge of sweepstakes

and kept picking your fucking name and going like, this goddamn kid again. But they were all different sources. I had one where I would go, kids sweepstakes.com, which literally is how I probably would have gotten kidnapped. And then I would type in like kids sweepstakes and just like scroll and find like 17 magazine is doing a sweepstakes, you know, and I'd like enter that. The lip smackers always had really good sweepstakes. I think they just wanted all of our information, right? At a ripe young age of 10, I was already giving everyone, selling my data to Big Brother, you know, and I, and here I am. I don't even know how we got here. I'm so impressed that. You never mentioned that Jimmy Neutron thing to me or I would have.

I really can't believe it. Yeah, is this new to everybody? I'm shocked if it's new to everybody, but maybe it just got old in my life. Maybe you said it don't get you Sandy or something. Could be. But yeah, let me know. I don't know.

I'll think of any other. I did win that TV. It was crazy. That was crazy. Wow. Okay. That was at like a, like a, and it doesn't matter, a raffle. Well, the time has come for us to remind you again that ZipRecruiter has

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ZipRecruiter, meet your match on ZipRecruiter. Well, okay, let's get back into this because I have a million questions. I need to just figure it out. Um, okay. Subway in Wisconsin and Dodgeville, Wisconsin. Uh, there, before it was a subway, it was a Harley Davidson shop. And the owners were a husband and wife. And on a Friday the 13th, they, um, they,

ended up getting in a nasty crash and died. No, no. Now that it's a subway, people see a woman who they think is the wife of that store. Yeah. Standing behind the register, looking really mad, apparently not smelling very good. I don't know what that means. Jeez. But apparently she still calls employees' names when they're alone.

People have seen items throw themselves off the shelves. Beepers will go off for no reason. And the sandwiches that are still sitting on the counter cut themselves. okay yuck a ghost has touched my sandwich but also I would like to see that but did they touch it or did they use a knife

and if they used a knife now a ghost has a knife and if a ghost doesn't have a knife then what did they do like like their psychically powers again their aura powers you know I don't know you're really on top of it quantum powers it's like sandwich

slice sandwich you know I don't know I had the exact same thought of like why are we holding serrated knives as ghosts right where's the knife is it or are we manifesting the knife. Yeah. I don't know about all of this, frankly. But I do get it. Like if you were one day you're working in your Harley Davidson shops, you know, you don't necessarily know you've died or whatever happens in these scenarios. And then suddenly you're like, what the hell is going on? It smells like a subway and sandwich shop in here. This is my Harley Davidson story. Like that would be so demoralizing. And it'd be pissed that I'm still working. It's not even my company or my business anymore and I'm still somehow employed. I'm still stuck here. I'm still stuck here. Yeah. And like, no wonder it smells bad. I mean, you're in a subway. I don't know that like, I don't smell like that. Maybe they just say she smells bad to like cover up for the rest of the subway smells, no offense.

Just like the deli meat sitting out all day. She's a lot of meats and cheeses and stuff. There's also a subway in Ireland that certainly deserves more time than what I'm about to give it. But the article was really one sentence long and I was like, this cannot possibly be the whole story. But the store manager swears, this is a quote, the building is from the 1600s and we the staff believe that this, that there's a ghost on the third floor. apparently it's so haunted that the staff has literally put a sign up in the window that says Ouija boards and seances are not allowed to be performed in the shop haunt your own house Haunt your own house this is our house this subway is our house It must be bad for you to even say that and we just gloss right over it

I feel like well okay I was going to say well they're not the ones haunting it but I guess you are Because if you're bringing a Ouija board in there like you're riling it up like you're Riling it up creating more of a haunting than there was before you brought a wage abort in. 100%. Okay, so now we've got Arby's. This is in Colorado Springs, Colorado. In the 1990s, apparently the manager there fired someone,

and in retaliation, she shot him. Oh, my God. Whoopsies. That's not good. Holy shit. Apparently now late at night, you can still hear the arguing in the parking lot. Oh, geez. Also, there are whispered. in the lobby when the place is empty and they're closing up.

Items, of course, move on their own. A woman is seen walking through the kitchen and out the back door, end quote. So I assume that's like right before the shooting happened. People who are opening the store have heard their names called and they also will find chairs strewn about that you would think like, oh, the people who closed last night should have put the chairs up. Why are their chairs everywhere? And the closers will say, we put. put the chairs up so they move themselves in the middle of the night i hate that or did they just reappear that's why i'm so freaked out by that like does the camera cut out when that happens or does it show them

moving or do they just appear oh my god um in hawaii there's a Starbucks that uh apparently when they play music and night while they're closing uh every single night at exactly 10 51 p.m the music will cut itself off 10.51 p.m. Every single night. It doesn't matter if they try a different song or anything. The music just always stops at that time. Damn. He said it's almost 11. Get the fuck out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, let's just cut to the chase, please. Wrap it up. Round up. There's also a ghost that one employee swore that they'd seen for like a year. Like every time they're on their shift, there was this random other person that was always wearing khakis. They were very tall. And they did not know who this person was.

They were like... They just thought it was like some awkward co-worker. They never spoke to. Just some awkward co-worker. And... Right. But I guess they knew that like nobody else was seeing this fucking person. So they were like, I swear I'm seeing this ghost walk by every now and then I swear like...

Like they're probably saying like, who's the guy in the khakis and everyone's like, we don't know. And you're like, the guy in the cat. Exactly. Oh, that's horrible. It's like so gaslighting. Eventually another employee started seeing the same apparition. Oh, it's always a matter of time. And when the two of those employees got together and finally...

started talking about it and saying, I've seen him too, the computer system went fucking crazy. Like, everything started glitching in the restaurant. As in like, don't fucking talk to me. Or like, you've seen me. You know too much, yeah. I've seen you. So there's a Domino's Pizza in Boynton Beach, Florida, where I guess if you're a brunette, the ghost does not care for you and we'll throw shit at you.

But if you're a blonde, it'll, like, stroke your hair. Awesome. If you're a redhead, I don't fucking know. And if you're bald, just get out of there. Just stay away. Go to Burger King instead. There's a Papa John's in Seymour, Indiana, where apparently people see the ghost of a man wearing a blue uniform. And you also hear knocking on the walls as if it's coming from the business next door, but that business is vacant.

Yuck. Ew, empty building. Yuck. There's a Dairy Queen in St. Anthony, Minnesota, where you hear children laughing again. things are falling off the shelves again your name gets called out again and the POS system this is the creepiest one of this Dairy Queen the POS system will print out orders that nobody's put in now that's annoying that would really suck I feel like as a ghost I'd be like I don't know how to make this clearer to you but I need you to make me a fucking ice cream right now I'm stuck in Dairy Queen please make me this exact Sunday and no one's paying attention they're just thrown it in the trash annoying yes uh yes it's like how hard is it to get trying to think of what what are we dairy queen they do the blizzards a blizzard yeah oh i love a blizzard god i fucking love a blizzard so good you know what they have there they make a mean hot fudge you put that hot fudge on anything that they sell you're gonna have a good night it is so good that hot fudge like a ganache oh god dang it

dairy queen are you listening uh i knew my mom and i were cut from the same cloth when every friday she would let me go to Dairy Queen and we would make the same sounds while we ate Dairy Queen. We both just go, oh. Just like mimicking each other. Yeah. Aw, mini me. Okay, so now we've got two more places. We've got the combination KFC Taco Bell Pizza Hut, of course.

Of course that's on it. In Coronado, California. I guess there was like something broken in their restaurant. And so they had a team come out and do repairs. But while they were there, someone said, thought we were the only ones left in the restaurant who just went into the fridge someone just went to the fridge what is with oh because of people working there former employees and stuff and so yeah the other employees are like there's nobody here nobody went into that fridge and the

guy was like i swear i saw someone so they go and look in the walk in fridge and nobody's there but it's been totally ransacked there's just shit all over the floors which is just it's one thing for like a ghost to be haunting the area but to make it worse for everybody is just so annoying. It sounds like either a, like a, well, no, because why would it, that's so weird. I wonder why, yeah. Maybe like the disgruntled former employee it sounds like or something. I guess so.

I mean, I guess at least this one's not like shooting the manager, damn. Right, right, right. But if I worked somewhere and items were being thrown off the shelves all the time, I'd be so twitchy having to like duck all the time. Yes. Agreed. Annoying. Also, they ended up reporting this to the restaurant later and saying,

just so you know, we didn't destroy your fridge. We swear we saw someone walk in there. We thought we were alone. And the restaurant later said, oh, yeah, our employees have been seeing someone walk in and out of that thing for the last 10 years. And it always vanishes before they can find him. I wonder how long it took before the managers believed the employees weren't just, like, creating a huge mess all the time. Because it's like, how would you know whether that's just like one employee that you can't figure out or if it's like actually a ghost? I don't know.

And I wonder if it ransacks the place every time. time or like it's almost like this sick game where you have to catch him just before he ruins things otherwise you have to say late and clean oh god help us so annoying it's just un it's untenable i feel like in this whole episode i just keep saying so annoying but like i really can't imagine it just would be awful i just don't want to do it i don't want to clean any more than i have to at a taco bell make me speaking of taco bell that's our last place uh there's a taco bell in wooster ohio yeah go wooster do you okay So you can go there if you'd like to experience a ghost.

There's a college there. And I just met a guy from there. Fun fact. Cool. Are you going to go on a date or what? No, I was at a solar eclipse retreat. And he was like, I'm from Worcester, Ohio. And I was like, sick.

That's fun. That was the extent of the conversation. But I was like, sick, I'm from Ohio too. That's nice. That was like, oh, yeah, I forgot about Worcester. Actually, someone from our, Sarah from our grad program went to college. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Fun fact. I didn't, I'm saying, oh, yeah, to like Sarah. I was like, oh, I haven't thought about Sarah in a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she went there. Okay, Taco Bell, Worcester, Ohio. The employees there get grabbed by something. Okay, not good, not good start.

The, apparently when they're closing, they'll hear creepy music at night playing, and they can't figure out where it's coming from. I prefer the turning the music off. Yep, yeah, please turn it off. Yeah. At 10.51 p.m., please they'll make it worse music. The location, this is like absolutely just like probably a rumor, but they say like it was once a mental hospital and I'm like a Taco Bell was once a month. That's not a very big mental hospital.

A Taco Bell remains a mental hospital. We can all agree. I feel like sometimes I feel like I should be put in a mental hospital, but instead I self-heeled by going to Taco Bell. So this is a full circle. That's exactly it. I think it's really beautiful actually. Nearby is also a haunted Pizza Hut. So I don't know if it's a Taco Bell Pizza Hut combo situation or if they're just really only right next to each other as.

separate entities. But here people... Oh, wow. I was going to say, let's imagine then. I was like, actually, they would probably, we'd probably get in some legal trouble. So maybe let's not. They're too powerful. But you can hear doors open and close, even though all the doors have been removed from this place. There's no more like, like, you know, it's an open space. Yeah, that's weird. It's a taco bell. Yeah, you shouldn't hear doors slamming. That's really weird. That would be like so uncanny valley. Like right behind you, they're like, what the hell? You'd be like, why did I feel weird about a door slamming? Then you'd be like, wait a minute. There's no door. in here.

Ugh. There's also apparitions that walk through their walls and one manager even saw, they heard something behind them turned around and there was like a thick mist floating in the air and then vanished before their very eyes. That, but that's scary because it's like, how often is that thing behind me? Right. Like, I'd be like constantly looking over my shoulder after that. And why only now did it make a sound or does it never make a sound and I just happened

to hear the sound of something else and caught it this time? Hey, that's so much worse. Oh no. And then all of a sudden it's standing there like, deer in the headlights because you caught it. Oh, no. Yuck. The main Taco Bell I'm going to talk about, or this is the final thing I'm talking about, is in Twinsburg, Ohio.

Have you heard about Twinsburg? I have, but I don't really know where it is. Sorry. So this is literally listed as the most haunted place in Twinsburg, Ohio. It is this Taco Bell. What? I love that. And this Taco Bell has been nicknamed the most haunted, the most haunted Taco Bell that there is, is the one in Twinsburg, Ohio.

Really? So they're really nailing it. So it's next to an old cemetery. So a lot of people say that... Oh, it's up in Cleveland. Yeah. Too far away. It's next to an old cemetery.

So people say that this is where it was actually a part of a burial ground before the land got reclaimed or whatever. But people see apparitions in the kitchen. They'll disappear and vanish if you look at them for too long or if you recognize them or acknowledge them at all. Apparently there's four ghosts that people see. There's like a mountain man that people see. Whoa. He's standing in the drive-and-drive-thru window, which is, can you imagine if you're just trying to order something? Wait, wait.

Like in the car side or on the employee's side? I think the employee's side. So you drive up and you think you're getting your food and it's just a random lumberjack there. Because at first I was thinking like you go to the window as the employee and like you open and there's that guy standing there. And that's also scary, but like they probably see way weird or shit on the other side of that drive-thru window. So yeah, to see it inside would be terrifying. There's a comedian that Allison's a big fan of Amber Autry. She's been on TikTok.

And we went to go see her last week. And she had a bit about how she used to work at McDonald's. And one time she brought a life-size Barbie in and put it at the drive-through window. And she was like, people didn't even notice. They just go, I love your eyes. Like, they wouldn't even notice. Oh, no. Oh, no.

I would prefer a life-sized Barbie over a – no, I'd prefer a Mountain Man over a life-sized Barbie. That'd be even – Yeah. I'm I've never been okay with a life-size Barbie the first sleep ever I ever went to that she had a life-size Barbie and I didn't sleep the entire night so it was like that thing is gonna move the shadow is really uh and the eyes are so creepy in the night like they're just like humongous even if you turn a life-size Barbie around to face the corner it's somehow even worse now it that's exactly right because I'm like I'll wake I'll wake up and she'll be turned

back around and I know it there's no doubt in my fucking mind yeah part of me would say like just like tuck her under the beds like you don't even have to look at her but I'd be terrified on night something's going to like hit the bed. Then you can never pee. No. You know. She'll get your ankles. Grab your ankles.

I don't think so. And you can't put her in the closet because you know she's just standing there waiting for you. Yeah. The mom of the girl I was seeing seeing that day or sleeping over at, she put it in the closet. And I was still like, I don't think that's going to do it for me, dog. I think I'm going to stay wide awake. Heads going to have to be buried in the yard first. And I think also I'll never be the same.

Sorry. Tell my mom. This was a terrible idea. and she never should have let me have his sleepover. I was three. Who was having sleepers at three. That's a toughie. That's a toughie.

Oh my God. That fucking Barbie scared me so much. There's the mountain man at the drive-thru window. People also see a military vet, but I don't know what he's up to. People just see him. They also see a girl in a white nightgown. Love that there's a woman in white still. Sure.

She sits at the corner in the dining room at night. I think it's actually a little girl. So she sits at the corner. It's almost as if she's like sitting there while her mom. working a shift or something. Aw. There's also a teenage guy that apparently he's in an old school employee outfit. He does not blend in with everybody else.

He's in like an older outfit. And he still helps clean, but there was one time that a guy went up to him and asked for extra hot sauce and the teenager was unresponsive, didn't seem to hear him. And the customer was like, who the hell is this guy? And nobody else saw him there. Horrifying. And then people... Yucco.

Oh. And then people see shadow figures in the halls and then the kitchen and the back area and all that. So anyway. Shadow figures in like at work. Mm-hmm. At work, really. Yeah, no, thank you. Please.

Give me a fucking break. Anyway, that is all the haunted fast food restaurants that I could find. Damn. Which I have already decided. I think that the whispering and the shadow figures might be my least favorite. The whispering happened everywhere, which was super... I think what's eerie to me is how many places had a combination of toilets flushing, people getting their names called out, whispering, and items laying off the shelf.

That seemed to happen at every single location. It does seem to happen when I go to any fast food restaurant. People are calling names, whispering, things are flying around. So I don't know. I guess it's a good place for ghosts to fit in, you know? If you had to haunt a restaurant, which one are you haunting? Cheesecake Factory Aha

Good one I have no idea A fancy one probably I want to just see what's going on Nice that's a good one You know I want to see like The fights and the proposals And the

And the nasty mean The mean people who like are Paying for expensive stakes Oh I want to people wearing bibs Like who are nasty to the staff I'm going to like have I'm going to have so much fun ruining their day You know what I mean?

Yeah, I agree. Like, I'm going to get in their Lexus and drive home with them and then just be like, I'm going to like, I'm going to like throw stuff around. You know, it'd be a really funny one? I'll come up with a better plan. You'd be a really funny one to haunt is like dirty dicks in Florida. Oh, yeah. Or a rainforest cafe.

Now that's good. But you'd get so over it, wouldn't you? I guess so. But that first day would be great. Yeah, it would be fun. And you'd have like ever. revolving clientele. So that's true. And you could ride the lions. You could like ride a lazy river sort of. Don't get me started. Yeah. That's a good idea actually. But the sounds, it's just so loud. You'd

need like to turn the volume down if you can do that as a ghost, which I assume you can. Yeah. I mean, if you can cut sandwiches with a knife kind of, then flush all the toilets. You can definitely make it quieter. Then what the fuck? You're totally right. I just make it a thunderstorm all the time instead of once every 30 minutes. Oh, wait. That's right. You can then control it. So yeah, we'll just turn down the volume. Duh. Yeah. We can do that. It's called Ghost powers. And then we can just have the rainstorm. I love that. You know, it'd be really creepy, though. As you know in the shop, they always have, what's her name, like Tracy Tree, the tree that's the tree that's always talking? I hate that thing. I hate her. In the middle of the night, everything's, because I was like. Everything's silent. And then she just turns on and starts talking about it. But it has to be when one employee's left cleaning. and then and then we'll do it like oh by the way we're both there now and then we'll do it and then like they'll be like guys this crazy thing happened but then it'll happen to no one else yeah and then we'll do it one more time to that guy and then we'll be like I swear to God and then

we'll just do it to like maybe the girl he has a crush on or something you know and then we'll just like we'll be just like having so much fun and we'll make it say things that it is not programmed to say totally we'll say Lacey has a crush on you too that's funny because I was thinking something more sinister like boo. Like, ah. Oh, God. Well, yeah, that is, that is way more sinister for sure. Or like just an evil cackle.

No one would believe you. Yeah. Well, no one would believe you if it said Lacey also has a crush on you. It'd be like, yeah, yeah, bro, whatever. The talking tree told you that Lacey is a crush on you. It was like, no, it literally did. Imagine it got so popular that then, like, actual like, paranormal enthusiasts started gathering and like trying to like book investigations there and everyone just doing a seance around a tree, a fake tree.

Not a real tree, like animatronic tree. That's like really, I mean, it would be the creepiest black and white footage, like night camera vision. Absolutely. And so her eyes just going back and forth. Oh, it's not. And they blink. It's like, stop that. I will say I just bought a bumper sticker from the Rainforest Cafe store that says, I break for animatronic wildlife.

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the University of Idaho murders. If you have not listened to part one, you really got to because all of the details of the crime itself and the discovery and so on and the description of all the people involved in the story. Just the whole first half of the story. You just got to know. You just got to know. I know you're going to probably do just like a quick little synopsis. Yeah. Okay.

Because I was going to say I. Oh, no. wait, I do remember a lot of this all of a sudden. It just came flooding back. My memory is that there was a house of girls who all went to school together. They were all very, very close. It was very precious. One of them was dating a guy who was a triplet and all of them also went to the school together. And then one night in this house of like five girls, someone broke in. Two of them ended up surviving. but one of the two that survived literally saw allegedly the killer in a like an all in black they made they made eye contact with each other and he walked off and she just didn't know if it was

someone who broke in or someone who was staying and was now leaving in the middle of the night she ends up running down to her roommate's room who was still alive and the two of them stayed there not knowing that everyone else in the building had died yeah and and then after that it gets shaky for me. Yeah, absolutely. No, that was really helpful because I think that's probably like the gist of what most people remember. So the address, which it's often referred to by the address, so it's 1122 King Road. I will say also they've demolished the house since. But it was 2022 and the five friends M mentioned were Kaylee Gonzalez, Madison, Maddie, Madison or Maddie Mogan, Zana Kernodal, Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funk. And Dylan and Dylan and

Bethany were the ones who survived. Dylan is the one who was, who witnessed the intruder. And when police eventually arrived, they found the remaining four people killed in the house, stabbed to death. And one of them was the trip that you mentioned. Wire is my, sorry, Juniper is literally standing on my stomach. In the most morbid way, it was very cute to see a fuzzy little cat, at least, being I know. I'm glad he got his air time for a moment, but man, his claws.

And Zana Kurnodl, her boyfriend, like you mentioned, was Ethan, Ethan Chapin, who was a triplet with siblings, Hunter, and Masey. And last we left off, the families were notified. This is, I mean, the kids were notified or the students were. notified, but they were not notified by police. They were notified by getting like an alert from the university as they're sitting outside in the driveway for hours, not knowing if anyone inside it, like what happened. They didn't know it was a homicide until they got the alert from, it's called a vandal alert from the university.

It's all just, it's all just very traumatizing. And then on top of that, while these people are trying to grieve and process and understand what's even going on and get through this. unfortunately it was similar to the Gabby Petito and some of the other big cases that blew up on TikTok and social media where people were just going crossing lines and going too far and creating stories, narratives that just damaged people's lives and lost people their jobs and, and I mean, really put the people through the ringer. And so Dylan was one of those examples because she saw the intruder but didn't call the police.

And like you said, you know, this is not something she understood what was going on. had been drinking. It was just like a hazy memory. She thought maybe it was just one of their friends. And she was getting like threatened daily, you know, and so was the other boyfriend. Like, these people are just completely like an onslaught of stuff at them. And so that's kind of where we left. The last thing I believe I said was that they found a knife sheath and they were able to trace that knife sheath, the DNA on it, um, back to someone. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Okay, yes. And that's, that's where we're going to begin. So here we go. Part two. What the public did not know was that the killer had left the knife sheath behind next to Maddie in her bed. This was a critical mistake. Investigators collected DNA from a button on the sheath and they used forensic

genealogy to follow its path. At the same time, they were also searching. for a vehicle of interest. A white Hyundai Alontra. They requested assistance from other authorities. You can also see like there's black and white footage of this car speeding off in the middle of the night and that's where they saw the Hyundai Alantra. That's why they're looking for this car.

They requested assistance from other authorities locating any white Hyundai Alantra made between 2011 and 2013, but this was not public knowledge. It was just amongst police authorities throughout the states. The vehicle had been captured on surveillance footage, driving slowly near the King Roadhouse before the murders, and then like booking it after the murders. So they were like, well, this is highly suspicious, obviously. And as these two searches are kind of going on, investigators identify a possible partial match to the DNA on the sheath, and it belonged to a man in Pennsylvania. Now, not him, but his son, 28-year-old Brian Coburger, owned a white time. Hyundai Alantra. So that's a nice little crossover. That car had actually already been pulled over

about a day after the police had put out this note about the car. But his wasn't a 2011 to 2013 model. So they just like didn't report it. Turns out it was a different year. But that was actually his car. He had been pulled over. Oh, okay. Good. Isn't that like bananas? I just there's also body cam footage of him getting pulled over. and you're just seeing him like, oh, what's, what's wrong, officer? And it's like, you know the sigh of relief that came out of him when he got to get away with it. Like the way that he must have pissed his fucking pants, right? Yeah.

Like, got away with it and the way that he must have thought he was such a badass afterward. Yeah. It makes me want to scream. It's just like added to part of his bragging for a while, I bet. Totally. Ugh, what a fucking creep. So they didn't end up reporting it, but it is wild because they do have the body cam footage of, like, them getting pulled over. and it's like, why are you even speeding anyway after?

Like, truly, if you come in a crime and got away with it, why on earth are you ever testing those waters again? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Brian turns out, Brian Coburger, that's, he's become like the boogeyman in a lot of places. Like I've talked to people who say like their young kids are terrified of this guy. Really?

Because, yeah, because it was like his, first of all, his face, like he has one of those like stairs where you're like, oh, I don't look him up. Brian with a Y K-O-H Like he looks Like he wants to hurt women Because he does want to hurt women That's his whole thing Yeah the second you look at him

You know that he And the way he poses The way he like smirks And looks like a fucking He has really I don't know what the right word is They're like penetrating eyes Like his it's like his forehead is like

So ridged in front of his eyes That his eyes look shadowed and dark all the time Yes he has dark eyes yeah on like every level of that word. Yeah, I agree. Wow. So this fucking guy, I mean, he's just a creep on every level. He was a PhD criminology student.

Of course. And TA, a teaching assistant at Washington State University in Pullman, Washington. And Pullman and Moscow are both university towns. They share the border, Washington, Idaho border, and they're less than 10 miles away apart. So it's like a 15-minute drive. They're basically the same town. You know, like if you're in. one, you're like 10, 15 minutes from the other.

Right. So essentially he attends and works at Washington State, which is like 15 minutes down the road. Got it. Brian did his undergraduate degree back in his home state, Pennsylvania, where he focused on criminal psychology. I mean, really, it's like... Like, it's just meant to be

more fucking obvious. He was intensely interested in what thoughts and feelings people experienced while they were actively committing crimes. Ew. So was this part of his like fucking PhD research to like test it out for himself? Right. Right?

Like no, it was more like his PhD shit was like research for himself for his own experience, which is like, Disgusting. It's just, it's just sick. So what he would do is he would conduct these surveys, but they were like, sometimes he just did them like just to find out. Like it wasn't necessarily for school. He would like post on Reddit like, hi, I'm a student at whatever and I am conducting. a graduate survey and then he would ask these really weird specific questions like how did you

pick your victim like he would send these to people he would post them in like subreddits for like former convicts or what i you know what i mean like like where people were had experience being in prison for some violent crime and he would look for people who had raped hurt women killed women and then have them fill out these surveys of like what were you feeling and like what did your body go through and like what and it's like what the fuck like he was fixated on like getting to have this experience fixated on what this experience would be like and he would like also though want to plan it so he would ask like were you charged were you convicted did you leave evidence like he was also trying to literally get research for his own life like on how to do something like this so

brian's father had recently flown to washington and driven home to pennsylvania with Brian for winter break. And along the way, Brian, like I said, was stopped by authorities and captured twice on body cam footage. And he, I forgot,

I thought he got pulled over once. I'm sorry. He got pulled over twice on their drive from, Oh my God. Like, get it together. From Washington State to fucking Pennsylvania. And his dad's in the car

and all the footage. And they're like, what's wrong, officer? Twice he got pulled over. And twice. He, like, he wanted to have the...

Do you know what it was for? It was for, for tailgate. I really to get pulled over twice for tailgating within a matter of days is crazy well I imagine he had a lot of pent up rage so he was probably it was probably showing up in his road rage yeah but also like you're right it was either road rage and he was not hiding his anxiety about what he'd done well yeah or he like really just didn't fucking care and was I know I mean I don't know either I don't know either I wouldn't I wouldn't like I don't I don't guess there's no way to know, but it's just like, yeah, the fact that they like ran his record and it was like he just got pulled over twice since the murders, like on his way home from basically committing the murders. It's just wild. Crazy. So can you imagine pick your dad up at the airport after you've done something like that and be like, okay, now let's drive home for Christmas. I can't imagine being that dad and realizing I was in the car with a fucking murderer. Like, that you create, it's your, I mean, oh my God, not that it's the dad's fault.

but it's like, it's not, but it's like... I love that realization. To feel like you're in the car with someone you trust the most, and it's actually someone you should trust at least. It's crazy. Oh. Or someone you just didn't know at all, you know? Um, okay.

So he was warned twice to slow down and stop following other vehicles so closely. While staying in Pennsylvania, investigators had like clocked him at this point, so they started staking out his house. And they watched him do all sorts of weird shit at his house. like he was like wearing gloves and like doing all these weird he's just a weird fucking dude um while he was staying in pennsylvania they were taking out his home and they collected his father's DNA from garbage outside and when his father came back as a partial match they were like okay well now we're pretty confident that brian's our guy the probable cause affidavit for brian's

arrest also detailed brian's cell phone data the night of the murders he had left his university housing in Washington that night headed from Pullman in the direction of Moscow, and there's no reason for him to have done this. His phone stopped reporting to the network at 2.47 a.m., which investigators claim is consistent with it. Like, he has a Ph.D. Oops, excuse me. Sorry, Jack.

Oh, wait a minute. Sorry, I think the universe sent you that sneeze on purpose because I wanted to say that the day this episode comes out, it's Jack's birthday. Happy birthday, Jack. Our birthday, Jack. And I keep meaning to say it, and I keep forgetting. and then you sneezed and said, sorry, Jack, and I went, oh, wait. So thank you for doing that.

Happy birthday, Jack. I appreciate you. Sorry about all the trauma you have to listen to every week. I know, man, you really go through it. So thank you for everything you do. We appreciate you. We'll text you also, but I don't know. I just saw it on the calendar and I was like, fun.

Okay. So da-da-da-da-da-da. His phone stopped. Like, this guy, he thinks he's so smart, right? but then he drives there and then turns his phone on airplane mode or like on the way there it's like why would you turn it on airplane mode before you left the house dumbass yeah turn the whole phone off what are you talking about it tracks you all the way there it tracks you on the way there and then you turn it off idiot okay so just i can't so he turns off the phone at 247 a m at 448 a m shortly after the murders so this is about like a two hour almost exactly exactly window. Yeah. His phone reconnects to the, to the network.

Instead of taking the direct route, so he's still in Moscow when he turns his phone on. And like, what do you think is going to happen for those two hours? Like, I don't understand. And also, like, this is, it's telling, but I mean, it sounds like for two hours he was invading their home, right? It could be, but he could have been hyping himself up. He could have been watching video. Like, who knows what he was doing? You know what I mean?

And, like. Because I was going to say, what the hell is he doing for two hours? Because this feels like... Well, I mean, and also like to stab four people to death is like also a very... Yes, would be probably a long incident. But I don't know how much of it was like him just like... And we don't... Okay, we'll get to him.

So his phone reconnects. Instead of taking the direct route from Moscow back to Pullman, he diverts south, taking a long route through residential neighborhoods and small farm communities. So he just takes like a... a weird route home. At 5.30 he returns home, but at 9 a.m., his phone data reports that he returned to the motherfucking crime scene. I'm not surprised, but I am, I didn't. I know. He feel, it feels like something in his MO, and I don't know why, but. Doesn't it totally, though? Like for research or something. Because he thinks he's so good. Because he thinks he's so good. He thinks

he's too good. That's what these people think, that they're too good to get caught. You know what I mean? that they're owed something. So he, at 9 a.m., his cell phone data reported that he briefly returned to King Street. And this is before the police were ever called. Mm-hmm. So that's wild. Extra weird. Yeah.

So he thought maybe because the police hadn't come yet, so maybe he just thought, like, maybe I should go check and make sure everyone's dead before there's witnesses or something. No, I think it's that thing that they say where, like, they return to check if anyone's found out. And then, like, usually police are there. and it's like, oh, you've returned to the scene of the crime to see and you're too nosy, you know? But, like, I feel like he must have gone there, seen nothing and been, like, probably thrilled because nobody's called the police. Mm-hmm.

You know, like there's no caution tape. Like, he got away with it. Like, he feels like, oh, he's probably at least farther away from it than if there were already police swarming the place. Yeah. It's just sick. So he's just getting off on all this. It's like, it's just horrid. So all of this cell phone data was also supplemented with security footage because a lot of the buildings around, some of them have like security cameras that captured his car at the King Roadhouse immediately before and after the murders.

Like you're on camera buddy. Finally, the DNA evidence on the sheath with which matched Brian was enough for authorities to arrest him. And on December 29th, the victim's families were notified that a suspect was in custody. And the following day, December 30th, 47 days after the murders, the police announced that an arrest had been made. Once Brian's identity became public harassment of the victim's friends and family continued. People began making fan accounts for Brian and like fake social media accounts. Someone with a fake Brian profile messaged one of the friends Josie and said, hey, it's Brian. Sorry about the bitches laughing emoji.

What the fuck is wrong with people? What is wrong with people? Like sick. Like sick. Taunting. Can you imagine all your friends being murdered and then someone reaching out pretending to be the murderer and going sorry about those bitches? Are you fucking kidding me? Like for what?

It's insane. Get your values straight. Dude. Like get your fucking value straight. I see a lot of idiots on TikTok because one of my big things on my algorithm is constant. like people responding to like people being stupid and like insensitive and there's like a lot of people these days

on the right who think it's funny like it's like a like a game to them to dress up as ice agents just to torment everybody like to oh yeah I've seen so I've been seeing a lot of videos of people being like when it's like it's that same mentality of like I love seeing you suffer or like I just want to I just want to make things worse for you when you're all ready at your yeah it's just bullying

because hurt people, hurt people, right? Like, fucking bullying. How can you have such a complete lack of empathy? Like, why, like, what do you have no self-worth? It's incredible to just not be able to even, to not, to know that it's going to hurt someone's feelings and that's the motivator to do it and not to not do it. I don't fucking get it. Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's like, I don't know, tap into your, I guess, high school, like,

self and be like, what's the, what's the motive? Like, probably just self-hatred. I don't know. Or just like complete, like, Insecure. Like, just like, oh, it's funny to just have anyone wrapped anything I do, yeah. It's like insecurity. I don't know.

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Yeah, like did he run into them on campus or something? It was like, did they have a falling out? Like does he know any of them? there was speculation that he wanted to kill young women because he was a member of the in-cell community involved Terry celibate for those who don't know men who believe they are being denied sex against their will

and that sex is being had by like a small number of men and that they're not part of it and they should be entitled to it in whatever way they can so after he was arrested members of online in-cell message boards start making posts like praising Brian and being like, yeah, he got them back, you know, like, ugh. An FBI agent involved with the case said, we never saw evidence that shows Brian Koberger is part of the in-cell movement, but the theory persisted and you'll see why.

Because women who knew Brian, you can't hide this shit, came forward and described him as making them deeply uncomfortable. A student at Washington State University had previously accused Brian of being aggressive toward her. and following her to her car more than once. But the university police didn't pass her reports to the city police because according to them, nothing that occurred rose to the level of a crime. Oh, good. However, he was ultimately fired from his teaching assistant position

because his behavior had gotten so out of control and for poor performance. So while awaiting trial, Brian's defense team argued that it would take them much longer than they'd been given to go through all the evidence available and build an adequate death. because at this point he was facing a death sentence for all four murders. His defense requested more time and the trial was postponed indefinitely.

As the rest of Moscow and the University of Idaho tried to move forward, residents of King Road felt haunted by this house's history. Like, for example, one of the friends or siblings at the fraternity house, their window faced the King Road house. So every single day they had to look out and see where their brother was killed. Ava could see the police tape still up more than a year later. Like there was still pieces of tape. Like it's still,

it was still just like a traumatic thing to have to look at every day. People were also, of course, coming in to film it and like make TikToks about it and stand in front of it and take foot. I mean, you know, it was like a tourist thing too. Yeah. Finally, like I said earlier, the university decided to have it torn down. Zana and Kaylee's families actually opposed the destruction of the building. But the university president said,

it's a grim reminder of the heinous act that took place there. While we appreciate the emotional connection, some family members of the victims may have to this house, it is time for its removal and to allow the collective healing of our community to continue. However, the family said it was not just an emotional connection that they thought the house should remain intact throughout the trial because there might be evidence inside it. And I was like, it's not a terrible point. It's actually, I think, a very good point.

That's a good point too. But in the end, there would be no trial. because on July 2nd, 2025, Brian accepted a deal. He pleaded guilty on all four counts, I know, a first-degree murder and one count of burglary in order to remove the death sentence.

He instead accepted four consecutive life sentences without parole, 10 years for the burglary, and waived his rights to future appeals. The Gonzáva's family felt very ambushed by the deal, saying in a statement, they vaguely mentioned a possible plea on Friday without seeking our input

and presented the plea on Sunday. four wonderful young people lost their lives, yet the victim's families were treated as opponents from the outset. We weren't even called about the plea. We received an email with a letter attached. That's how the prosecutor's office treats murder victims families. I mean, I was going to say, I feel like from the very beginning they were not prioritized. I mean, even all the way down to like they're standing right there at the crime scene and had to find out through a text with everybody else what's going on. The two people who lived in the house were not being told what was going on. Yeah. It was it was, it was not handled well. They deserve to know before the public knows. I absolutely agree.

Like, this is all just botched, really. He, so Brian later attempted to recant his decision and request a trial. And it was like, too late, bro. Yeah. You can't, that's not how this works. You studied this, didn't you? Not well. I don't know.

PhD, not well, exactly. I will forever just want to ask him why the fuck he was even studying this. Unless it was like. No, it was just for his own. Yeah. It was. This was, what? he was interested in.

Yeah. That's, I, I, I wonder if he ever had intentions, not, I wonder if he ever had intentions of studying that stuff to try to like be interested in it for, for a better reason or if he only ever want, if he only ever got into it because he knew he was going to do something bad. No, no. So that's a really interesting point because I do remember some of the highlighted quotes from his online posts and, and journal entries or whatever you call them. and forum posts he would say things like I just feel nothing like can someone help me understand

why like I feel nothing like he was basically describing a lot of like psychopathy sociopathy like these traits and he was I think just like he was like I don't feel empathy like you know like he was clearly trying to understand it so I think that was part of it too is like trying to understand why he had this urge. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know that he necessary. And some of the posts were like,

I think I'll do something bad one day, but I don't know. Like, I don't know. It was just kind of like he was trying to figure himself out through all this and then had clearly made up his mind that he was, that it was women's. Yeah. I don't know. There was there. And I, I would say he at least is heavily leaning towards and cell communities.

But, uh, it reminds me a lot. Well, they sure like him. Yeah, they sure like him. For what that's worth. It reminds me a lot of the, there was another mass school shooting at, this was years ago at San Bernardino at their university, where a guy in the in-cell community shot up a sorority house because he thought the women deserved because they wouldn't look at him or give him a chance. Like, so this isn't the first time it's even happened. No, no, of course not. Yeah, it's really dark.

It's really dark. gives me the shivers So in the wake of all of this Many of course continue to ask why he would do such a thing And to these people and like you know just make any sort of sense of it There are lots of dokey series that dive into the psychology His life history trying to find some explanation Now this is chilling

Admonds from a Facebook group that was dedicated to discussing the case with over 200,000 members Believe that Brian was secretly a member of the group. I'm sure. Due to alarming and suspicious comments that one particular member would leave throughout the investigation and it was like maybe they knew something, you know, and hinting at it. Like, this guy's just such a fucking baby. I'm sure, though.

And then when he was arrested, the account just got deleted. So they were like, hmm. He was absolutely in those groups. He would love to see people finally giving him a pat on the back or something or recognizing what he's done. kissing him yeah yeah um skyborgman who directed a Netflix documentary about the murders said of Brian i think his silence is a way of attempting to keep the spotlight focused on him which is an interesting angle like he's being so quiet because he's not he's just like let them talk you know

but he also i think can't uh shut up for that long i'm sure he'll say something dumb soon um emily brant says that brian is a loser and nobody should be talking about you know he should be talking about about him at all and I love that. Amen. Instead, she wishes people remember her friend's lives and that they would remember them right after so many people got so much wrong. And I love Emily for that. She said they were not what happened to them.

Who they are as people is so much more than the Idaho for. Their friend Phoebe McGrath said in a documentary interview, I think that the world has made their idea of who Kaylee, Maddie, Zanna, and Ethan were. So I think it's important to still emphasize like who they were as friends, who they were as people. They aren't just these victims. So those who knew Ethan remember him as outgoing, kind, funny, someone who made everyone's lives better in the 20 years. He looked 20 years old.

Throughout his entire life, he and his siblings were barely apart for more than 12 hours at any time. His father, Jim, said, I don't have any regrets whatsoever. I know that he lived the very best. His mother, Stacy, said, I would imagine there's parents in the similar situation that would look back and think, oh, you know, maybe I should have worked half time. We can't come up with one thing we would change in our life. Maddie's mother, Karen, kept Maddie's room at home intact to spend time in so she can feel close to her daughter. She said she has very little room in her heart for anger and just remembers what a loving and happy person Maddie was. Karen said that when Maddie was a baby, she decided she never wanted her to know one moment of sadness.

So she never let her cry. Jesus. And she said she just all she wanted was to make her feel confident and loved. Another friend named DJ said he would remember all the dances Maddie would make up. and those were going all over TikTok, like when the news of the murders came out, those went viral, of course. But she was known for having her laptop on hand to play music for everyone. Meanwhile, Stephen Christie Gonzalez founded a nonprofit in Kaylee's honor. The foundation is called Murder Has a Name, and here is the mission statement.

We are committed to expanding access to advanced forensic DNA technology, investigative resources, and critical case funding so that victims are never forgotten and families are not left without options. Through innovation, advocacy, and action, we work to ensure that every case has the opportunity to be reexamined. Every name is honored and every path to justice is pursued. Every victim has a name. Every family deserves answers. Every case deserves a chance to be solved. So they're like trying to really get into this forensic genealogy thing and make that more accessible and open for people going through similar experiences.

Yeah, Christy said, of the organization. I was at the point in time that I did not feel like I was going to be able to live life. I am not going to be able to continue living, not knowing,

and to think that there are families that do, so because she found out, right, who the killer was, but she's like, I couldn't imagine, I can't imagine

being one of the families who didn't get answers and still, right, is waiting. And like, she said it was hell for those 47 days.

And 47 seconds feels like eternity. Right, exactly. So it's like to go on even longer she was like, I don't know how anyone does that. And she said it's just about trying to give family's answers.

And I just find that awesome. Murder has a name is the name of the organization. If anyone wants to look it up. In honor of Maddie and Zana, Ashland Couch co-founded a scholarship fund and non-profit. It's called Made With Kindness Foundation. And she says, the endless laughter and crazy times with them are memories I'll never forget. The Made with Kindness Scholarship Fund will give us the opportunity to help support the lives of college students. So it's basically just a college scholarship, which is really

neat. And Ethan also has a scholarship program founded in his honor called Ethan's Smile Scholarship, because he was known for his big grin. Wow. And it is just really, it's just how something good comes out of every one of these cases is beyond me, because sometimes I can't fathom how. But, Um, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's the, that's the story. Wow. Wow. I think the craziest part still is that he didn't even really have a relationship to any of them. He just, it, yeah.

He just saw them? He just. It makes me believe that he's done this before. I can't imagine my first crack out of the box. I'm going to go into a house full of like seven people. Yeah, but you know he's been like planning this in his head for years and he thought it was going to be this like flawless execution and that he was going to be able to do it again and again, you know, it's like I think such a fucking grand spectacle of a murder. Like there's no way he would have gotten away with that if he had killed like four maybe. I mean, you could be right, maybe. And also like I didn't even get into the details because it would have just taken forever. But some of the stuff and citations he got for being a creep to women and like some of the shit he would say about women on the internet. Like it was. Diabal. It was bad. So he could have probably, I mean, because one of the boyfriends was there and maybe he didn't expect the boyfriend to be there or something. And he just thought like, well, I can overpower any woman because they're just dumb females or some shit like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he must have either like spotted that it was, he must have probably, I mean, it's 15 minutes, 20 minutes from his home or whatever. He probably just drove around there all the time and was just clocking. He must have been like scouting or something. Like, right? Like that's what I guess.

but I don't know. There's no way he just like jackpot hit a house full of girls, you know? I'm sure he just like was scoping around and like. I do love when they think they're the fucking smart person in the room and then you can't especially like you can't even remember the fucking knife sheath. Like at what point did he go fuck? Which makes me think maybe that's why he went back. He was like, I should.

Oh. Do I go back in there? Do I just. Am, I didn't even think of that. I, at some point he went where the fuck is the knife sheath? and then realized and the dumb part is like it doesn't matter

because your car's already been spotted twice now on the camera so you idiot so if you if he had gone back yeah anyway what a fucker

well he's gonna talk soon he's way too full of himself he's already talking in his cell for sure he wants attention and a book deal and a nonsense

I mean whatever they all do I'm sure he wants to be like someone that they interview for future criminology textbooks or something Yeah, he won't. Yeah, exactly. And like, sicko.

Evil. All right. I got to go. Leona's screaming at me downstairs. I can hear her go, Mommy. Okay. My friend's home. My friend Leona's home. Right, right, right. Well, now that you're friends home, I hope the two of you have a great play date. Thank you so much. And we'll all talk to you next week. And sounds good. That's why we drink.