And That's Why We Drink - E52 A Reverse Pickpocket and There Goes Melinda

Episode Date: January 28, 2018

Get ready because who knows what the hell is going on in this episode. First off, Em covers the Fairmont Banff Springs Hotel, one of Canada’s most popular haunted locales. It features several ghosts, including one named Sam who may or may not wear a kilt, a phantom bride who fell down the stairs to her death on her wedding night, and three shadow people that were once the victims of a tragic murder-suicide. Christine’s story, though just as dark, takes a weird turn when she covers famous 90s Club Kid Michael Alig, who bashed his friend in the head with a hammer, poured Draino down his throat, and then decapitated him. What a (horrifying) world we live in. And that’s why we drink… Please support our sponsors!  Become a Fabletics VIP member and get two pairs of leggings for only $24 at www.fabletics.com/drink! Zola is reinventing the wedding registry and planning process. To receive a $50 credit towards your registry, visit zola.com/drink.  Visit Audible.com/DRINK or text DRINK to 500-500 to get your first book free!

it's time to ring in the new episode oh okay ring it in ring ring ring okay hi everyone hello welcome to and that's why we drink the true crime and paranormal podcast yes that one that's the one uh geo says hi from afar he's actually sleeping right now i bet his little paws are dancing he had daycare today so he is a tired was he such a social butterfly i mean probably not he takes after me but we can hope for the best so sweet how you doing him i'm all right yeah no oh well I mean it's not like I got a fucking spinal tap or anything so I guess I'm great how many episodes do you think it'll be when we stop bringing that oh when I die that episode oh okay um your funeral and then when you, clearly I'm not around to stop you from using a Ouija board and you try to contact me, you'll know it's me when it says spinal tap.

No more spinal taps. I'm okay, but I have been trying very hard to be better with my mental health. Oh, amen. And in turn turn i'm destroying my physical health oh no because i'm so fucking tired all the time so i've been trying to wake up early and go to the gym before work but that sounds like physical health well i feel like i'm dying i don't know if that's like good or anything that's part of the fitness journey that's the fun of it that's why we love you survive the near-death experience every day and then go to work feel like we're dying so i've been doing that i've been eating way healthy i like how i say we as if i'm also doing it well hashtag shedding for the wedding considering now i'm also at the altar so if you

guys are listening to this backwards like some people apparently do you'll figure it out you'll figure it out get to the next episode you'll find out why i'm also at the altar a lot of people cried oh it made me cry when other people cried well spoiler in case you are listening to this backwards uh christine left blaze for me so we're actually getting married um welcome to the schultz schieffer wedding oh i do hate and love that if we were to have a celebrity name and we were going with our last names like you can't use it's like we don't have anything interesting for the first three letters we share the same three letters so it would be just like the same name yeah but blaze and i i tried to do that and i was like what about blisty and then he was like that's fucking awful sounds like a blister and then i said what about blisterine and he was like you need to stop talking okay but that's nice i thought it was

hilarious i thought it was too thank you i also thought i love lamp was pretty great until you decided to crush that we're doing that still anyway i'm hating my life because i'm trying to better my life and i'm trying to get out well my, my depression isn't as bad as it has been, but I will, I'm openly speaking about this because I've gotten a lot of emails from a lot of people saying that they really appreciate us talking about our mental health. It really is a wonderful opening experience when people are like, thank you for bringing that up. A lot of people have written in and said that we've helped them either discover their own mental issues of, you know, needing someone to talk to. Yeah.

Or they just like not feeling alone. The fact that we're millennials and a very large portion of us have this. That's beautiful. But so I'm trying to do better, but I'm doing all the things, the exact opposite things that anyone with depression wants to do. So I'm eating better and waking up early and making myself move around. I'm not kidding. Good for you, though.

That's a huge deal. It's a huge deal. Anyway, that's why I drank. Except not, because now I don't drink milkshakes anymore. I've been drinking protein shakes and smoothies. And unsweetened iced tea. Oh, yeah. That's true.

I have been drinking. It's not great. I love it. I'm from the South and i have never had tea without sugar in it before and not hated it i know i get it so i'm just miserable all the time also i'm drinking a gallon of water a day so i might have to pee halfway through this are you always peeing because i yes is the answer to that i'm always peeing and i'm always dehydrated so if i were drinking a gallon of water a day,

imagine drinking a gallon of wine a day. Oh, you already do. I'm sorry. Has this turned into the, let's bash Christine because I'm uncomfortable with my current habits. It's cause I, it's cause I hate myself and I need to drag you down. Listen, I'm always open for us to drag each other down. That's fine. Why are you drinking? Drag down okay sure sure sure sure uh let's talk about it um let's just say i'm drinking because a few months ago i don't know what's tmi on this episode is anything tmi i mean on this podcast really nothing's tmi you have crohn's disease listen we talked about spines oh no yes we do that was the extreme level we talked about my uti we talked about utis and spines so if you're not comfortable with that go away okay so let's just bring it to the next level so let's go so i got my uh nexplanon birth control rod out of my arm i gotta take it out and because you're trying to have a baby or no because that's something we're going

to get a lot of messages about lord no okay that's settled now thank you thank you you're welcome thank you a lot of people were pulling their cars over to ask if you're trying to have a baby everyone was crashing their cars into trees and saying what is happening geo should be the only child and with you i agree yes with all of you i agree uh no no no no i just got it out because it made me crazy it made me gain like 40 pounds and when i say like i mean actually it made me my depression and anxiety like skyrocket and i was just over it and i finally got it out and it took like months for somebody to finally help me get rid of it and now I'm finally going back to my normal self I think and uh it's funny because I'm just suddenly very emotional

about everything like before Christine when I first met Christine she was like an emotional wreck all the time because she just her emotional wall isn't much of a wall as it is a flat ground where emotions can just go right through wherever they want so she cries to a lot of like dog commercials kroger commercials kroger commercial anything but so now she's commercials now she's back to her old self and we're so happy yeah it's great and i feel like i'm finally back to normal and i i am crying a lot but in like but mostly like oh everything makes me so emotional and also i feel like i'm finally back to my normal self and i feel comfortable in myself and i feel happy and normal again so that's why i drink because i'm just excited to be be back yay yay um i have something to tell you about i have something is it bad some things

to tell you is it bad no okay we just got a lot of stuff in the mail yeah i know so it's all good then except oh no for that horse head no i'm just kidding oh it's all good. Got me. Good one, Christine. Zinger. You stole that from old time TV. Okay. We got a lot of Christmas cards, which are so sweet. This is from the Sigsbee Lude King family. Lude King. I don't know. But look at it.

It's so cute. This is precious. Okay. And I love, okay. I love that they're LGBT. Well, a lot of them are actually. It's very sweet i know this one it says mary's christmas love bacon bits and janae at bacon bits kitty and it's a fucking cat with

its tongue out it's hilarious oh my gosh that's brilliant and i looked at bacon bits kitty on uh instagram and i think geo follows it now so wonderful a winner this is so great we got this card this is really wonderful from chelsea hashtag team milkshake thank you let me see there's an elephant on it i know also did you know elephants are my favorite animal they are the animal mascot for psychology wait really because an elephant never forgets well do psychologists never forget what's no but it's like a brain thing no whatever i love you know uh elephants okay yeah you got one on your arm i do have one on my arm that's right uh we also got this really sweet letter from um nicolette reed georgia and woody and it came with this amazing

christmas card also oh also lgbt look turning around it's just all these pictures of them and their pups it's so precious so dawn we now are gay apparel am i right you're right oh i love it so much and then um desiree okay our listener sent us each a gift each i got the most wonderful marauders map harry potter wine glass i'm not kidding wow harry potter something there it goes a harry potter wine glass okay that's awesome yes that's fucking great and then this is for you to keep your milkshakes cold it's a chill cup yeah 30 ounces she knows me yeah yeah yeah she's she's on it she's on top of it so it's a 30 ounce stainless steel tumbler with a spill proof lid a stainless steel straw and a straw cleaner and a cork coaster wait it comes with a straw cleaner

that's fancy and a coaster cork coaster i love. So I can keep my milkshakes nice and cold on my 40-minute commute to you. And you can keep my lovely Ikea table free of any... Rings? Rings. This is fucking amazing. It gets better. Shut. No, it does not.

There's more. And I'm going to crack this open. Chill cups. Thank you, Desiree, before I forget. This is amazing. Thank you, Desiree. chill cuffs thank you desiree before i forget this is amazing thank you desiree also we got a really nice letter from jacob in salem oregon who has the most perfect oh my god jacob your handwriting needs to be on a tv show it's i'm not trying to recruit jacob let's just

make a tv show about jacob's handwriting oh okay okay but look how perfect it is. Yeah. I like Dear M and Steen. Wait. Oh my God. I love that. S-T-E-E-N. When I was little, my friends called me Steena. Oh, that's precious. Okay.

Want to know what else? Yeah. I mean, it gets better. Stop it. Okay. You know what's fun though? Before we go any further, this is exactly a month after Christmas. So it's like Christmas all over again. It is a month after christmas so it's like christmas all over again

it is a month after christmas and it's one week before a one-year episode you know what that means oh well that's yes but also what does it mean also that means we're a 12th way till christmas yay thank god oh it's already been such a tough year i'm'm waiting so hard. Okay. I want to see what's in your hand. Also, Adrienne is just the most wonderful gem. She's an artist in San Francisco, California. You can find her at Adrienne, A-D-R-I-E-N-N-E, highly, H-I-G-H-L-E-Y.com. And she sent me, she said, I just heard on the podcast that your pendulum broke this is what i made specifically for spirit and chakra work hope you like it shut up she made me it has quartz amethyst sodalite adventuring it looks really cool but anyway it's it's made of all sorts of

beautiful gemstones and she described what each means and means. And it's got a skull on it. It's beautiful. And I can't get over it. It's perfect. That's amazing. I actually teared up when I opened it. It's so fucking gorgeous. And then someone sent this for my denim jacket, for my jean jacket.

You know you love a good pin so i love a good pin i threw away the envelope because i'm a dumb ass but we got these pins they're the best this is there's literally a fucking what is it boxed wine pin that says fancy as and it looks shut up it looks like you're franzia or whatever it's a franzia pin oh man that's i like how the company by the way guys is called garbage humans i was about to say it sounds like something we would have created and then this is the one the other one let me see read it oh it's a ouija board that says ho don't do it which is i'm talking to me every time you're like let's play with the ouija board and i'm like

oh don't do it man this is amazing it's so sweet and so i'm gonna put this on my denim jacket and dude i have your card here and i didn't write down your name is your name here it is uh d something d thanks d something thanks. And then last but not least. Yes. We have this. Okay. I ordered. So on the secret group, it's called the Secret ATWWD group, podcast group.

I don't know. Something like that. It's on Facebook. And every Saturday we do small business Saturdays. And I love going through and seeing what everybody sells on Etsy or what their own, you know, what they create and sell online, small businesses. It's so much fun. And I found this woman named Tammy. She creates clothes.

And so I went on her website website i fell in love with this dress and i ordered it all right it's just like a really beautiful black dress oh nice yeah it's made of bamboo rayon oh i know fancy and then she wrote in the card by the way, I added in some goodies for M and Gio because how could I not? Aw, Tammy. What is this? What is this? It's a tie-dye shirt. Oh man. I mean. It's a tie-dye shirt. Is it also made from bamboo rayon? Are you ready? Tell me. M's shirt is upcycled and hand-dyed by yours truly. I mean, come on. No way. That's an upcycled hand-dyed shirt. This is such a nice shirt. This is tie-dye for...

Get it? Everything in me wants to hate that, but also I can't help but love it. It's so good. And then... More? Gio. Oh, sweet baby G.

Has... My heart's melting. i can see a corner of it an upcycled bandana oh we match we match tie-dyed i can't breathe so tammy's shop if you guys want to check it out which by the way the dress is fucking gorgeous she like hand ddyes everything. This is amazing. It's custom-made. It came really quickly. It's really incredible. Her shop is called, I think it's called Shug's, S-U-G-S. Okay. So go to Shug's shop, but it's spelled with a P-E dot com.

Ooh, a fancy shop. Yes, the fanciest. S-U-G-S-S-H-O-P-P-E.com to check out her clothes. She also said that anyone who's a listener, she'll give 25% off using the code ATWWD25. Nice. So that's from Tammy. So thank you, Tammy. I love my new dress.

And I'm just so stunned that you sent m and geo each their own gift that's amazing really fucking i cannot wait to wear my shirt and drink out of my chill 30 degree cup and look at some gay christmas cards while you wear your pins and your dress everything's perfect and i read all of these well handwritten letters i mean literally everything's fucking perfect we even have the disembodied foot crocheted on the table oh everything's perfect we keep saying we're gonna like make a get a bookshelf to put all of our merch on oh it's on my wedding registry at zola.com do you think i'm kidding no i'm not kidding all right guys so if you get christine anything on her zola, you might actually be getting it for our studio. I'm not kidding.

Probably 20% of the things on my registry are for our podcast. Yay. Shh, don't tell Blaze. I told him that they were really important to our marriage. As am I, which is why I'm in the wedding. Thank you. Exactly. Someone understands.

Wow, I'm overwhelmed. Are you? Because I am also. Oh, yes. What do we do if both of us are overwhelmed? We start talking about other people's problems. Oh, that's the key. Yes.

All right. This has been, this story has been brought to my attention by three different people. Oh, man. One person named Emily, one person named Kaya, and one person named Kia. All email. So they all recommended the Fairmont Banff Springs Hotel. Banff, like badass motherfucker? No, Banff, with two Fs and an N before the Fs.

That's not a word. Well, then I made it up. Say it again. The Fairmont... Fairmont Banff. Banff. Like banned, but with two Fs instead of a D. Okay.

Springs Hotel. You know what? I'm not going to fight it. Just go forward. Well, it's in my homeland. Your homeland, Canada. Yes. So finally learned it. So I might as well, you know, do something from my homeland that just makes the most sense to me. Sure. It makes so much sense. I can't even get over how much sense it makes so anyway it is in it is a hotel in banff surprise surprise which is in alberta okay just so that's a real place yeah i mean we're americans so we don't have to know geography of anywhere i think of canada just one mass full of the friendliest people on earth. Here's the thing. Em's always like, I love Canada. I'm from there.

And then it's like, what? Canada has different provinces? What does that mean? And I'm like, how? I'm also like, what's a province? And then everyone is like, hi, Em. We're so proud to have you as a podcaster. And I'm like, hey, at leastine understands that fucking like alberta is different

from british columbia but okay you know what i will i do like that a lot of people they'll email me and when they like they think they're like making it in saying like i'm from canada and like they put it in the subject title to like get my attention so i'll read their email first and i'm like all right all right well and i used to read the emails just me and I'd be like, well, fuck you. Anyway, go on. Let's get to the first point. All right. All right.

All right. So it's the most popular of all Canadian hauntings. That doesn't mean it's the most haunted. It's just the most well-known haunted house. It is perhaps the most famous. This is a quote from its website. Perhaps the most famous of this is a quote from its website, perhaps the most famous of all luxury Canadian railway hotels, which I didn't even know there was one.

And you know that's saying something. So it just might be the most famous. You're not wrong. It was built in 1888, which is three years after the year that Marty McFly traveled in to save Doc in the third movie of Back to the Future. That's how you can triangulate its time period. Also, Michael J. Fox is Canadian, so that's a sign to me. A sign of what exactly?

I'm a lunatic. Okay, great. That's my sign all along. Okay. The hotel was initially built for tourists looking for a luxury wilderness experience. Right, me too that sounds like my mom trying to be adventurous it sounds like my fucking nightmare let's go outdoors but in a luxurious way that's like when i'm like blaze let's pick a honeymoon and he's like why

don't we go to an underground thailand backpacking trip and i'm like can we go to sandals jamaica reason a million why you and i should just like go on a vacation together and allison and blaze should go on their own trip thank you somewhere and listen i'm not i'm joking when i say sandals jamaica and blaze can come i'm quoting michael scott i'm kidding but at the same time for my honeymoon i don't want to be anthony bourdaining all over thailand that's why you should have your honeymoon with me and allison have, or Blaze can have his honeymoon with Allison because Allison's like, yeah, let's eat fucking bugs

and hang out in the mud. This is literally... And you and I are like, a luxury tiny house for the Instagram? Let's go. We're like, our listeners will love this Facebook Live. Also, but if we had a honeymoon together,

hands down would be in a haunted house. Fuck yes, it would be. And also, it would be a place where they feed us breakfast. Christine, if I were marrying you, our honeymoon would have so much wine. I'd have you in a hot tub of wine. Get out of here. I'm not kidding.

Let's get married. I'm gonna marry you. What if at my wedding? Right, sure. What about my wedding when you're officiating the wedding? Instead, you're like, will just sneak in my own vows. And I'm like, yes.

And we're like, Oh fuck. It's like a romantic comedy. And now we're going to sit in a wine hot tub. It's like that, uh, that movie with Patrick Dempsey of made of honor. Oh,

right. I'm the maid of honor. Apparently. Fantastic. Yep. Can't wait to marry you. Wink. Which way do I mean it?

The Mr. Of honor. We'll make our own movie can you imagine if someone made it and that's why we drink a movie it would just be us crying in corners of the ouija board on fire it would be us listen somebody posted in the group well christine should ever should be on an episode of drunk history and i almost cried because i was like i don't think anyone realizes that when i moved to la i told myself my dream would be to get this nickelodeon fellowship which i fucking did somehow vision board yes uh and to be on drunk history and

i've told blaze so many times like my ultimate dream in hollywood is to be on drunk history well christina and i have said this and i'm making sure this goes on record so everyone else can hear it so if this comes out before we get a chance we had the fucking idea christine and i have talked about if we could make a show at all out of and that's why we drank if we could like make a series out of this it would be drunk history but instead of drunk history it was drunk people's spooky stories and like people trying to talk about like i saw a ghost but they're drunk and like just slurring everywhere and so it's just a ridiculous ghost story and then they reenact it yes and here's the thing somebody posted a poll in the group saying what

network should we contact to get em and christina show all of them did you see that yeah i did see it if everyone harasses every network one of them is bound to listen so and then um someone also posted which character are you most like on that and that's why we drink and i guess which character i hope i got m it was a buzzfeed quiz no i'm just kidding for a second i was like oh my god did we make it on buzzfeed no well we already did. Okay, hair flip. I'm sorry. Did we make it on BuzzFeed again for the thousandth time? For the millionth time? That was the shittiest thing we've ever done. We're garbage. Yeah.

We're garbage. I'm sorry. I hated myself. If everyone else is, like, signing off permanently on the show, I would, too. We hate ourselves. No, someone made a thing about, what character are you it was like a poll and apparently blaze and alice in there were on there but nobody voted for them and so blaze was like well fuck that poll and was like does anyone even know me and then my brother

was like behind every great podcaster is a strong man who supports her financially and i was like you guys are such fucking assholes. And they thought it was hilarious. I wish we could go back to the poll and the only person who is Blaze is Blaze. Like, you just look at who voted. Well, that's what I said. I was like, did you even vote? He's like, no.

I was like, well, that's why, because you never participate. How many people were me? Apparently, I was winning. Well, see? Team won. You were second, and and then geo was third that's still a feat actually shocked that geo was not first i was expecting to be the third out of those three i think it's just that i was first was allison an option yes was anyone allison

yes what blazing alexander were the only ones that were not part of the but apparently the only i i assume the only reason i was first is like people are like oh i also drink too much and don't really know facts but i like to pretend that i do so that's they're like uh i want to be m but i associate with christine more right i'm just not as relatable like you're not as relatable no i'm just like a bunch of minorities put together in one human being. You're just like the best of everything rolled up into one big ball of perfect. I'm like the best of everything in a worse nightmare. Oh my God.

Is that a Fall Out Boy lyric? Actually, I'm Pete Wentz. If you were Pete Wentz, we'd have a whole other issue going on. All right. Tell me about goats. I'm sorry. Can you imagine if Pete Wentz... I'm sorry. Can you imagine if Pete Wentz... I'm sorry.

Can you imagine if he was the one marrying you and Blaze? Like, would you actually want to marry Blaze at that point? No. Well, no. I don't give a shit about Pete Wentz. If Patrick Semper there... Oh, there it is. Okay.

Okay. So, this building... Okay. The luxury wilderness experience. Blah, blah, blah. It's known as the Castle of the Rockies. Okay. Okay.

And it's so famous that several celebrities have checked into the hotel, including Marilyn Monroe and Queen Elizabeth II and Helen Keller. Oh, shit. So anyway, that was all the history. Wow. You didn't give me a chance to write all of that down. Helen Keller was there and that's all you need to know. Okay. The winning hand of apples to apples every time was at this hotel at one point in her life.

That is... Enough. Enough for me. So there are four, I think there's three main ghosts in in a haunted room okay that we've got to get into so one of the ghosts his name is sam sam was a bellhop he immigrated from scotland and he worked at the hotel for 40 years whoa and he liked his job so much that he swore he would haunt the hotel after he died which is very dramatic to me i mean what's his name sam sam you need to relax oh okay i'll let him know you said that thanks um so he

stuck with his word and he now haunts the hotel and very actively and very shamelessly. So he is known for small things, such as turning on lights and opening elevator doors when no one's there to press the button or anything. But he's also known for very big things, such as interacting with the guests face to face. Oh, man. So people say that they have been helped by an old Scottish man in an old-fashioned bellman uniform and he's been known to open doors for them to help people into locked rooms and to perform wake-up calls oh my ew wait no but like he'll like knock on the door and like you'll think that are like a live bellman is helping you and people have gone down to the front desk and said like oh that one scottish bellman was just so nice or like they'll like try to like send their comments like help them out

with the manager and be like oh the one with the scottish accent and they're like he died i feel like that's my stepdad in the afterlife like i will still wake you up before school at 5 30 in the morning by pulling your covers off well so one of the guests commented to the front desk about the helpful bell hop and the employees were like oh that's sam which is kind of fucked up to me and that like all the girl said was the helpful bell band and they're like that's sam like because no one else could be helpful on our staff only helpful one is dead why are you hiring anyone then jesus so the most helpful person that works there is dead. Why are you hiring anyone then? Jesus. So the most helpful person that works there is dead, by the way.

I mean, he must have known it before he died. He was like, I got to stick around for this to... I guess so. I wonder what the Yelp reviews are like. Everyone alive is horrible. Listen, if you can, get that dead guy. Honestly, could you give him a ring for me? Honestly, like, get him to wake you up in the morning. It's very pleasant.

Well, this is the best part of what he does, and I'm going to take a page out of his book when I die. He accepts cash tips. Me too. But the thing I would not do as a ghost is he returns the money. No. And he puts it in a different pocket than you originally had it. Why? I mean, I guess you can't use do as a ghost is he returns the money no and he puts it in a different pocket than you originally had it why i mean i guess you can't use cash as a ghost but imagine tipping a bellhop in front of you like putting money in his hands and then he vanishes before your eyes and you're

like this ghost fucking stole my money and then you find it like in your shoe or like under your hat or like in like weird ass places Like one guy found it in his sock. So he's like the old timey Criss Angel. Yes. Where he's like, Ooh, he's like Fagan from Oliver twist. Like he's like Dodger.

I don't know what that is, but a very, very good pickpocket. Oh, he's like, watch what I can do. Yeah. But he's also not a pickpocket because he wants to

like give you the money it's like a reverse pickpocket because he lets you hand him the money on your own but then sneaks it back into your clothes that's really ideal because like we all honestly everyone needs a good reverse pickpocket a reverse one because when you go to the hotel and you're like already paying a lot of money and then there's people helping you and you're like oh i want to support you and help you but then you're like wow i just paid like 30 more than i expected to pay and then or like when you look at your bank account it says like two dollars it's like wow i could really use a reverse pickpocket right now like wow those two dollars like i need the tooth fairy without my teeth falling out of my head

just i need money under my pillow when i wake up you get it listen this is taking a lot of turns i always get it uh so he accepts cash tips and then hides it on you in a different place than you had it several people have identified him as a real person and have spoken to him and know exactly what he looks like they could even smell his cologne but out of nowhere in the middle of your conversation he will just vanish in front of your eyes um in the middle of a conversation yeah also rude he's like look i did my magic trick you're not appreciating it blah blah blah you're boring it's like i got other people to attend to uh two ladies staying at the hotel called the bell desk for assistance because their room key wasn't working and what they didn't know

is that the bellman on duty was actually busy with other guests and couldn't get to them for like 15 minutes but when that bellman got to them they were already in their room and they were like oh the older gentleman dressed in up in an older version of the matched sam with his kilt apparently so he's like the hotel's batman like he just finds the people who need help and saves them oh my god what but in a kilt but like right no underwear like involved batman plus oliver twist in a kilt i mean it's everything you want it's everything hollywood wants trademark do not steal this idea also scottish slash ck how you doing ck what's up m and i are trademarking this

movie do not steal it oh okay okay bye uh sam has been seen first of all let's stop right there let's get back to our movie deal that we have apparently in the mix right now with this whole idea right yes this is our first episode of drunk paranormal stories can you imagine some drunk person being like batman in a kilt that's the perfect pitch he's oliver twist and batman but scottish and helping you out of your hotel room it's called drunk history please call us it's called vision mantle i can't even get through this fucking story i'm sorry it's my fault sam has been seen also in his old office of the hotel which fun fact is now a guest like a room for guests so a lot of people will go

into their room or even come out of the shower and walk into the bed area and just see him sitting on their bed and like and like in a business outfit or as a bellhop or like doing paperwork or he's just sitting on their bed oh and they think that they're in the wrong room or that the room is like occupied by another guest and so they freak out but then when he realizes that they can see him he vanishes oh that's so creepy imagine going into your hotel room and there's just someone sitting there imagine leaving your shower and going into your hotel room imagine because he thinks that's his room imagine him going to like go pee and you're in the bathroom oh my fucking god horrifying um one guest actually woke up to a man in a bellhop suit sitting on her

bed and folding towels in the middle of the night oh fuck and her first thought was i thought it was my dad it's like why is your dad in a bellhop suit in the middle of the night sitting on your bed listen your dad doesn't do laundry well apparently it was him doing his off-duty towel folding which does not make sense to me off-duty towel it's an oxymoron right sure sure sure um here so that's sam we're done with sam sam we're not but he's not done with us never never that's his tombstone epithet so uh the next story is a young couple was getting married in this in the hotel in the 1930s and they were holding the their like wedding banquet at the hotel and they also had rented out like the honeymoon bridal suite right so anyway the bride they just got married the bride was walking up

the stairs where the ballroom was uh-oh and her husband this is a sad part her husband was waiting at the top what it's like he watched this happen what what happened her wedding gown brushed up against one of the candles that was lining the staircase no and caught on fire no scared that her dress was on fire she tripped over her dress and her high heels on the slippery marble staircase and fell down the stairs and died from breaking her neck while also on fire and i'm sorry what the imagine being okay so really like no pressure but you're about to get married and if me or blaze have to watch that shit happen we're just gonna keep you away from marble staircases that day keep me away from high heels fire candles marble staircases anywhere where you can break your neck any

staircase honestly we're just gonna make you just sit until you have to get married and then we're gonna make you sit again you're gonna put me on a little wagon and roll me down the aisle yes listen no fuck that that's horrifying that's so sad so many have seen this bride walking down the stairs in the middle of the night in the hotel people have also seen her in other areas of the hotel wearing her dress. Both staff and guests have reported feeling cold spots where she died, and many have heard a thump while on the stairs and heard the sound of bones breaking. Oh!

Oh, that's a new one for a ghost story. Yeah. So they're hearing her last sounds, basically. Fucking shit! At night, people hear a woman screaming, a woman crying, a man yelling no, which is heartbreaking. Or they've heard the crackle of fire. What the fuck? Others have seen her in the ballroom dancing, like dancing on her own because she never actually got to the ballroom.

like dancing on her own because she never actually got to the ballroom and when they see her dancing her dress is on fire and her head is twisted backwards from her neck being broken. That's a horror movie. Staff have also reported strange noises coming from the bridal suite

even when nobody is staying there. She's like, I just want to lose my virginity to this guy i just don't want to be pure anymore god damn it so um so that's that's her that's home girl that's so sad um staff do we know her name no oh the phantom bride what a name to go out with though that will be your name in a few months i'm sure the phantom bride junior i'll take it um so staff have said that it is hard to keep room 692 booked which is interesting because 692 is my birthday 692 june 92 oh birth year birth time it's like the epoch that you were born in yes

sure the beginning of the end i like to call it it's funny that i also call it that okay go on it was the beginning of the end so anyway staff have said that the room 692 is very hard to keep booked because it's been reported that pillows um get yanked from people's heads from like under their head when they're sleeping some guests have literally been pushed off the bed others have washed watched the closet pillows get yanked from people's heads from like under their head when they're sleeping. Some guests have literally been pushed off the bed. Others have watched the closet door swing open and heard scratching inside the nightstand next to them where the Bible is. In case you forgot how hotels work.

People have night terrors in there and they will not remember leaving the room. Ooh. They will black out and find themselves in the lobby. Oh, God. Um, so that's that. So that's normal. So that's that on that. Um, fun fact.

I told you this building was built in 1888. Mm-hmm. Um, and it was at, originally it was an entirely wood structure because it was 1888 um and it was at originally it was entirely wood structure because it was 1888 um you know how they did things then so in 1926 the hotel caught on fire the fire completely destroyed the wood structure so they had to build a new hotel on top of it and that's why they built it like why why it's called the castle of the rockies is because they built like a castle so it would never catch on fire again so they built it with thick walls of stone um that kind of thing all that jazz interesting after the fire when they

were about to start renovating and rebuilding a new hotel they found a hidden room in there oh um the apparently it's not as spooky as we want it to be i could lie to your face and make up a really good story but i damn it i don't need the skeptics telling me that i'm wrong so um the contractors when they first built the original wooden structure actually made a mistake in the blueprints and they ended up like in the original architecture of it they created a room by accident like two rooms were supposed to be bigger than they were but they ended up being shorter so there was like a weird little room in between them and it was said to have no windows or even an area for a door or anything it was just a weird patch

that they weren't expecting to have so since it was just an empty room that didn't have windows or anything they just kind of covered up their mistake so they just built around it but no one knew that that room was there it's still really creepy oh yeah it just sat there for years and years and years so individuals have i'm just trying not to use the word guests for a million the millionth time so individuals individuals. Individuals, right. Autonomous humans. Autonomous. Have said that in the area where this, quote, secret room is,

they've heard strange noises and even seen apparitions. Because even though the room is still hidden. Right. It's, like, known. Like, now they have signs and, like, you know, you can read online, like, that room exists. Right. But apparently in the hallway next to that room, where, like, everyone knows can read online like that room exists right but apparently in the hallway next to that room where like everyone knows there's like a hollow spot

people hear strange noises behind the wall they see apparitions they've seen dark fog clouds floating nearby and following them to their rooms or they will see um black clouds floating in the hallway and then go into the wall right where that hollow spot is. Creepy. People walk by and feel a sense of doom. Some have heard growls and one guest swears that they heard a dog barking in there, but it was too deep of a voice to be a normal dog. Oh, my. It was like a wolf or the dog of death.

Right, sure, sure, sure. That. Hotel security have also complained about a shadowy figure floating up and down the hallways during the graveyard shift. So not just guests are like calling this out, but security also confirms it. There's also another haunted room, 873, which is a missing room on the eighth floor because they had to cover up that room as well. Because guests used to be able to stay in there but a man his wife and his daughter were all staying there he had a breakdown and he committed murder suicide no no so a double murder suicide holy shit so the room is apparently haunted by all three of them

guests report being awoken in the night by violent shrieks they've also reported waking up in the middle of the night and seeing three shadowks they've also reported waking up in the middle of the night and seeing three shadow people standing over them two adults and one child i think i'd rather have the violent shrieks than the people have woken up to blood puddles on the floor that only they can see no thanks like they'd be like to the person they're with like do you see that and no one would see anything just what the fuck chambermaids report um bloody fingerprints on the mirror that could never get washed off they're just always there hotel management decided that it was best to seal off the room make it look like it was never there

so it's also walled off and you can't see it just block it off it has been covered and is no longer accessible from the hallway and people staying in this room always felt like they were not alone and the halls next to the room people see a girl walk out of the wall where the door used to be and she when she walks out she's covered in blood and wounds um people near people near the room have also heard a woman and or a child screaming um inside where the room used to be and people will report it from different floors oh my god and be like there's a woman up there screaming and then they'll say like there's nobody staying on that floor right now it's like the whole floor is vacant people have heard a man shouting um also from separate floors so they think someone upstairs or someone downstairs is

yelling and no one's there um reports of domestic abuse have been called into the front desk when no guests are anywhere near that room. And a child will see the little girl or a child has seen the little girl and waved to her and asked if she was OK. And when her parents asked why, the little girl said because she's covered in blood. Oh, my God. Hey, are you OK? You good? Fuck. Y'all right five-year-old me would be like don't look at that girl i'd be like look away you see nothing um so there's also two other ghosts um there's not much reported on either of them one is uh your worst nightmare oh my because he's nope just one torso uh he's a bartender who you

think is your friend uh-oh but he can he's also as helpful as sam helpful quote but he's a bartender and he can tell when people are too drunk and he takes your drinks away from you and tells you to go to bed what an asshole so a lot of people reported saying i'm not gonna tip that guy he took my drinks away they're like douchebag they're like no he's dead you can't tip him if you wanted to so he just likes to live in the afterlife he just likes to be a fucking narc like he's such a square he's like the party pooper of the afterlife he's like that person at every sleepover that's like guys it's 8 30 let's go to bed and i'm like fuck you he's like my mom thinks i need to go to bed at 8 30 because i'm have a special skin condition or like my mom will let me eat after seven o'clock it's like okay well we're not having

dinner at your house ever sorry oreos don't count goodbye we uh we used to have a friend like that she doesn't listen to the show because she's too big of a scaredy cat her name's cloudy and uh she used to always be that one at the sleepovers who like me and deirdre like we always wanted to stay up really really late and she'd be like guys it's eight o'clock i'm so tired eight o'clock And then she would eventually, like, if we were sleeping at her house, she would go to a different room while Deirdre and I hung out all night. Anyway, so this guy sounds like the cloudy of the ghost world. So a cloudy ghost sounds good to me.

So there's that ghost. There's also my particular favorite where he's a headless ghost. Good. Who somehow plays the bagpipes which requires a head by the way i mean maybe he has like a air wave through his neck maybe he just has his own soundtrack it just follows him around and he uses the bagpipes to look like he takes credit for the music so he's lip-syncing yes with his with his neck empty neck. Okay. I will end on a quote. It's not really much of a quote.

It's more of a whole paragraph. But this was my favorite Yelp review I got from one of the people who worked there. A gentleman attending a conference in 2007 checked into his room on the sixth floor, and he claimed that during the night he heard giggling in the hallway also keep in mind the sixth floor is where room 692 is right um that like all the evil stuff happens assuming all right so he heard giggling in the hallway assuming it to be ladies returning from late night social activities i don't know what grandpa fucking wrote this he tried to ignore it and go back to sleep the giggling seemed to get louder as though they were on the other side of the wall from his room then it sounded as though

they were in the room with him oh he didn't see anyone he tried again to block it out and go to sleep but it began to feel a physical sensation as if someone was trying to push his mattress up and off the bed to get his body to roll off the bed what he felt his body being pushed up by the mattress but saw nothing so he went to bed like a fucking freak what nothing further occurred that night the next morning he contacted a colleague said grandpa who was staying in another room and asked him to stop by he welcomed his colleague on arrival then stepped into the bathroom asking his colleague i don't know why we keep saying colleague asking his colleague to wait a minute before they left the room for breakfast so he went into the bathroom and said hang out here for a second right so his colleague is hanging out in the main part of the hotel room when they when the guy came out of the bathroom his friend was no longer in the

room and the door was open the guest went into the hallway and found his friend there standing out um out in the hallway under a large picture i don't know what the picture is of but they seem to really like hint at this picture okay so his friend ended up being outside under this picture staring at the picture in kind of a trance oh so the guest was like what are you doing and his friend said he was waiting in in the room originally when he felt someone take his hand and pull him towards the door the door opened itself and he was like he didn't even think about it he was just told to just keep following someone pulling him out he followed the pulling sensation out to the hall where he

suddenly stopped as though someone had wanted him to get out of the room. After this, the guest wasted no time in requesting a room change, but the guy, his friend can't stop, wasn't able to stop talking about the picture for the rest of the day. Oh, so whatever was in that picture apparently was probably the thing that made

him like get out of the room. What do you think it was? Um, a picture of me. I i mean that's what i thought it actually was just a giant canvas of our logo oh my god he was like i know this is he's like something something's gonna happen here i can feel it happening geo's involved and that is the the fairmont bamf springs hotel california oh Springs Hotel California oh Canada Jesus California what's wrong with you that's where I live that's I didn't say the place I want to be I said the place I am

right sorry sometimes you confuse like your homeland with your current land yes you get it I get it you get it I'm gonna tell you the story of Michael Alick. Okay. Do you know the story? No. Great. So this was suggested literally today. Yay. On the Facebook group by Michaela.

Hi, Michaela. And I got a lot of the information from an article on The Guardian and an article in Rolling Stone. And I just, it's a very 80s 90s heavy story so love it a lot of you will probably know about it and if not buckle up so michael a leg was born in 1966 in south bend indiana uh he was a straight a student graduated in the top eight percent of his class but he was often bullied because he was gay oh i know um in 1984 he started at fordham university on a scholarship hey i almost went there me too really what if we both went there oh my gosh the alternate realities we could just conjure up right now we could conjure up so many did you really almost go there yes do you know my great-grandfather is the first person to ever get a pharmacy degree from there? No.

What the fuck? Are you serious? Walter Francis Schultz Sr. You're kidding. No. What a name, Walter. My Grandpa Walter. That's amazing.

Anyway. Anyway. So, he was at Fordham. He studied architecture and then transferred to the fashion institute of technology where he met the boyfriend of keith herring okay do you know who keith herring is nope but i bet he's a murderer no my friend who is he he's a very famous artist oh i don't know we have a true crime podcast sue me for thinking he was all those like kind of doodly shaped like people and stuff. Oh, okay, cool. Do you know what I mean?

Yes. Okay, so Keith Haring is a very famous artist. Anyway, so he... Sorry for calling him a murderer. TBD, TBD. I mean, who knows? Who knows? Who knows?

The night is young. So he met Keith Haring's boyfriend and Keith Haring's boyfriend introduced him to the New York City nightlife. So A-League dropped out of school and began working as a busboy at a famous nightclub called Danceteria. Love it. Mean. Wait, at New York? Yes.

I think I know about that. Where they all, like all the... They all dance. All the waiters like lip-sync and perform and get up on the tables and love it. But there's... It's a whole chain. So there's multiple locations. But yes, it's like a very famous nightclub started in the 80s.

He started studying the nightclub business and became a party promoter. Our favorite guys in college. Wrong. A moment of silence for all the people who thought that was a good idea guys relax uh boop boop boop boop boop boop he would throw these crazy parties and he quickly rose the ranks in new york's party scene um he and his other like his fellow club goers started creating these flamboyant personas and uh the group of them became known as the club kids of course so this is a really famous movement in the 80s and 90s um they wore crazy costumes one of their more famous members james saint james later called

uh the costumes part drag part clown clown, part infantilism. Oh, part clown. You know. At least I'm not part infantilism. Are you sure? I think so. So they were also known for their excessive use of ketamine, ecstasy, rohypnol, heroin, and cocaine.

All my favorites. Just your daily vitamins. Which is a snack. It's just breakfast. It's just a meal filler. That's snack. It's just breakfast. It's just a meal filler. That's all. It's just SlimFast. It's a supplement.

Yes. I'm going to tell you some of the club kids' names here now. Ernie Glam. Gitsy. Right. Superstar DJ Kayoke. Richie Rich. Jenny Talia.

Oh, I get it. That's me. I heard what happened there. You're Jenna Talia? Jenny Talia. Alrighty. RuPaul. You know RuPaul.

Don't get me started. And Walt Paper. I thought you were about to say Walter Schultz and I was going to be like, Grandpa! What if Walter Schultz? Imagine was going to be like, Grandpa! What if Walter Schultz? Imagine if it was Walt McHeel. Walt McHeel and Walter Schultz started the Fordham

Club Kids with RuPaul. Oh my god, I'm going to lose my mind. Keep going. It's all wrong, but okay. Beep. So, the media freaked out and conservatives freaked out and everyone was like oh my god let's film these people and put them on the tv okay so they were featured on newsweek people time magazine the joan river show etc like they were all over the media basically

a-league started organizing parties for a living he had these notorious outlaw parties that were thrown in various unconventional places including a burger king a dunkin donuts abandoned houses in the subway wow so literally all the places i would throw a fucking party yeah all right you are you missed baskin robbins but whatever Maybe that was the after party. I don't know. That was brunch. The video of the Burger King party is on YouTube, and I watched it. Is it happening?

It is happening. It's called 90s camcorder action happening in a fucking Burger King, and then the police show up. It's wild. Sounds like my kind of party just google it it's it's bananas um so A-League was also notorious because of his behavior at these parties he would throw hundred dollar bills on crowded dance dance floors just to watch people like scramble and fight over them um and he would also urinate on fellow club goers and would also pee in their drinks as like a show no yeah no he would also

like stage these falls where like he would just hurt people because he would just like fall on people um i can't relate no we've moved past that i mean yeah i know the ability to relate i think we were there you had me at burgers and police and abandoned houses but you lost me at falling on people and usually people are just falling for me i mean it must be hard for you to not be falling for people but other people will be falling for you all the time it's you know it's it's my crux next up is pissing in people's drinks on my way um so anyway his popularity was growing and so was his drug use um he was arrested several times for drug offenses and entered rehab twice but continued to use um a lot of his behavior was probably due to his diagnosis

of histrionic personality disorder oh that'll do it that'll do it which if you don't know is defined by the american psychiatric association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive attention-seeking emotions and behavior. So he himself has said, like, well, actually, at one point he said, the doctor who diagnosed me said I was the worst case he ever had. And I was like, but is that your histrionic personality speaking? Yeah. Or is that true? Like, it's just it's

the way it was described to me in my classes at school is that it's just like a an actual diagnosis for being incredibly dramatic yes that's he said nothing like everything just had to be blown to the fullest extent of drama that it could possibly be just being involved in everything it's just it's just yeah it's very attention-se seeking very yeah um so one of the club kids was named andre angel melendez angel was his nickname um so angel was working at this club but the club found out that he was selling drugs on the premises uh so they fired him and he moved into alexLeg's house, A-Leg's apartment. And then on the night of March 17th, 1996, A-Leg and his roommate, Robert D. Freeze Riggs, got into an argument with Melendez over a number of things, including a longstanding drug debt. And Riggs beat Melendez to death with a hammer.

Well, whoops. There goes the neighborhood. There goes Melendez to death with a hammer. Well, whoops. There goes the neighborhood. There goes Melinda. Melinda? Melissa. Melendez? Melendez. Angel Melendez, a man?

I heard, I just went with Melinda. Just went with my gut. There goes Melinda. There she goes. She's riding off. She wasn't even there to begin with. She's riding off into the sunset because she was never here at all. It's fine.

No, his name was... Oh, my God. You don't even drink. His name was Andre Melinda's, but okay. I heard Angel Melinda. You are an insane person. I'm so sorry. Okay.

So, they beat him to death with a hammer is the point of the story yeah they didn't know what to do with the body so they did the classic move and put him in the bathtub and then filled the bathtub with ice but after a while the body started to smell like a dead body hey that's an inside joke guys don't play this in reverse or you won't know what is going on listen to every episode okay so their next plan made a lot of sense their next plan was to go to macy's to buy knives right yeah that's what i'd do just get on board uh they bought knives and a box at macy's a leg told riggs that he would agree to dismember melinda's body in exchange for 10 bags of heroin

who wouldn't i mean come on so here's what he did he cut the legs off put them in a garbage bag cut his head off put it in another bag and then stuffed the rest of his body into a box oh my then they threw the box into the hudson river sounds like uh in emperor's new groove when he was like i put that thing in a box and then i put that box in another box then i put that box in another box and then i send it to myself and then i smash the box um every time i'm not kidding every time i'm hungover i just put that box in another box and then I send it to myself and then I smash the box. Every time, I'm not kidding, every time I'm hungover, I just put that movie on Netflix on repeat. I eat so many tortilla chips and watch that movie over and over and over again. Every time I hear the word box more than once in a sentence, I think I put the flea in a box and then I send that box to myself. Smash the box.

We tried to watch that last night and then we ended up watching Chicken Run. Guys, you gotta watch it. You gotta watch it. Emperor's New Groove is probably one of the greatest American classics. It is the greatest American... I would argue the greatest American classic. Look, I'm not here to judge. I know a thing or two about classic cinema.

Yeah, we only have master's degrees in TV, not film. As a millennial, I know about classic cinema. We know a thing or two about a thing or two. I have a Snapchat account, and I will tell you all about The Emperor's New Groove. I'm sorry for getting you off track again. I gotta talk about it so in the weeks following melendez's murder a leg uh allegedly told anyone who would listen that he and riggs had killed melendez he even appeared on tv and said sarcastically he was a

copycat so we killed him oh because they were really well known in the media for being like eccentric and crazy and like anti-conservative which is why we are also in newsweek right we're eccentric and crazy and anti-conservative hello fresh okay so anyway some people thought he was just trying to get attention which like fair point again histrionic personality disorder right right right uh but eventually he sent out a party invitation that joked about the murder of melinda's oh no and people were like wait what the fuck is going on so on april 26 1996 um a month, a well-known nightlife and society columnist named Michael Musto published an article in his Village Voice column that detailed the rumors behind Melendez's death and the details of the murder. So he didn't use specific names, but the next day the New York Post picked up the story and the New York Magazine picked up the story. So people were kind of like taking these rumors and turning them into breaking news.

So the murder had happened in March, and by September, the police still had not questioned Eilig because they were focused on his business partner, Peter Gatien. They even wanted Eilig to testify against Gatien in court. So people at this point were assuming A-Lake was getting away with the murder because it had been so many months and the police hadn't even questioned him. Right. But then children playing in the water on a beach

on Staten Island found a box containing a legless torso. I hear you. It had no head and no legs but it had arms. Maybe after that box they found a flea in a box with another box that got shipped to Yzma. They smashed it. I like that children had to be involved in this.

Of all the people in the world to find a legless torso. They're like, cool. Let it be the innocent. They're like, it's a treasure from Atlantis. And then it's like, why are there arms and no head? They're all afraid of treasure hunts now. They're afraid of... Oh, you know they're afraid of the world now.

Yeah. What could be in this box? Oh, Christmas must be a nightmare. They have 18... They can't open a Christmas present! Open this box. No! What if it has no head?

Oh my god. Listen. It's a new belly button. Somebody pay for their therapy okay so you can find our patreon okay a legless torso i mean come on that's outrageous okay so the body was identified as melendez and riggs quickly confessed to the murder um according to him he hit melendez three times on the head with a hammer. Then A-Leg grabbed a pillow and tried to smother him.

When Melendez was unconscious, Briggs went to the other room. But when he returned, he saw A-Leg pouring a cleaner, like Drano, into Melendez's mouth. And then the two duct taped his mouth shut. Oh, no. Ailey claimed he didn't remember the details of the murder because he was so high on drugs. But he insisted he killed Melendez in self-defense and then disposed of the body in a panic. And he still to this day says he did not pour the Drano in his mouth. He only poured Drano on the body when it was in the bathtub to get rid of the smell.

So it's up for debate. I didn't poison him i just bleached him with acid i just poured body because he smelled so bad yeah it's it's up for debate what exactly happened with the drano but uh riggs said he saw a broken syringe on the floor and was like no he like put the drano in his body so who knows either way obviously it's fucked up um prosecutors were hesitant to charge a like with first degree murder because they were still hoping he'd testify against his former boss peter get in who had been arrested for allowing drugs to be sold in his nightclubs so they were like we just want him to like put this guy away so they were hesitant to charge him which is kind of fucked up um so they eventually offered a like and rigs a plea deal so they would be sentenced

to 10 to 20 years if they accepted the lesser charge of manslaughter instead of first-degree murder. On October 1st, 1997, both pled guilty and were sentenced to 10 to 20 years. While in prison, Eilig told that same journalist I mentioned earlier, Michael Musto, I know why I blabbed. I must have wanted to stop me. I was

spinning out of control. It's like the old saying, what do you have to do to get attention around here? Kill somebody? Yeah, my favorite phrase. It's like the old saying, what do you have to do to get attention around here? Kill somebody. So it's like... Yeah, my favorite phrase. It's like that old saying. It's like that old saying we all have hanging in our kitchen above the stove.

Yeah, I love a good yesteryear limerick. It's like that old wives tale about how murdering people gets you attention. Well, grandma always said, what do I got to do, kill someone? Yep, that's what you got to do. So while he was in prison, in the New York State prison system, he was transferred from prison to prison multiple times.

He spent time in the psychiatric ward at Rikers Island. In 2000, he was placed in solitary confinement after he was caught using heroin in prison. He remained in solitary for another two and a half years after a drug test showed that he was still using drugs. And I actually watched an interview with him where he said being in solitary confinement was like his worst nightmare. Well, yeah, because I mean, well, also, I imagine if you're someone who craves attention exactly you're the only you're not with anyone exactly must be horrible so you're addicted to drugs you're addicted to attention addicted to attention and now you're alone with no social interaction so he he even said at one point like if you put like a heavy drug addict in solitary confinement all they'll do is plot and try to find a way and so he was like it wasn't healthy for me at all um

i don't think solitary confinement's actually healthy for fucking anyone not healthy for anyone i believe him no yes exactly um so he became eligible for parole in 2006. His first parole request was in November of that year, and it was denied because allegedly, parole officers had watched the film Party Monster, which in 2003, which was a fictionalized account of his life starring Macaulay Culkin. Oh, I did see Party... I know it was based on him.

Yeah, that's... I haven't seen it in so long, I didn't put the name together. Yeah together yeah yeah so that's based on him i mean it's fictionalized so there's gotcha it's definitely not a documentary but apparently after parole officers had seen that uh it's alleged that they had like a they were biased about keeping him in prison. So he was denied parole. And then in July 2008, he was denied parole again after failing several drug tests. Wow. There you go. There you go.

In an interview with his former fellow prisoner, Daniel Genis, Ehrlich said that his time spent reading while in solitary confinement inspired him to write his memoirs, which he titled Illigula. Oh, he stole my fucking name. Well, I guess I can't write my autobiography anymore. Illigula, the story of M.

I'm saying. Sounds like Benicula. Yeah, it does. I was going to say, why does that make me feel weird like I'm in third grade? Bunnicula. It's because I'm imagining a vampire bunny eating carrots. With red eyes. With red eyes.

Bunnicula. The story of Christine. Allegula. The story of M. And Dogzilla. Dogzilla. That was the spinoff of Bunnicula. Oh, I was going to say the story of Gio.

I didn't realize. It was not good. So, here's what happened after a ligula was conceived in march 2009 a leg said he oh a leg i get it a ligula there it is i'm a thousand years old and i don't understand letters are beyond me okay in march 2009 a leg said he finally decided to stop using drugs and that he'd been sober since then uh while he was in prison he would relay his tweets to a friend on the outside who would then manage his twitter for him oh lord that's the dream that's what's gonna happen when i eventually end up in

jail christine write out to everyone about how much i miss oreos as if we're not both going to be in jail at the same time. Like, come on. Okay, we need an intern to tweet for us while we're in jail. Okay. Okay. Sounds good. Allison, you there? Intern, hello? Some of the tweets, just to, like, let you know,

included, how did Justin Bieber get his hair to stand up like that? And why is everyone so mean to Madonna? I mean, fair. Okay. get his hair to stand up like that and why is everyone so mean to madonna i mean fair okay alec was officially paroled on may 5th 2014 uh the conditions of his parole included that he returned in new york city and lived there and that he abided by an 8 p.m curfew he was also required to undergo drug counseling anger anger management counseling, and job readiness training. He granted numerous interviews in which he expressed a desire to star in his own reality show, Me Too. Just kidding. And stage an exhibition of his artwork.

In May 2014, it was reported that he was attempting to sell his memoirs and was pursuing a career as a magazine writer. was attempting to sell his memoirs and was pursuing a career as a magazine writer. Since September 7, 2014, Alig and fellow club kid Ernie Glam have hosted a YouTube comedy talk show called The P.U. And I went on his Twitter and he's constantly promoting that show. So just FYI, it's still happening. promoting that show. So just FYI, it's still happening.

On October 15, 2014, A-League released the pop song What's In featuring DJ Keoki, who was one of his club kid friends. Yeah. On Thursday, February 2, 2017, A-League was arrested for trespassing and smoking crystal meth outside the Bronx Supreme Court.

Well, there you have it. There you have it. At approximately 1.30 a.m. He was detained because the park closes after dusk. The New York Daily News reported that Ailey was arraigned on drug possession and trespass charges and pleaded guilty to trespass in exchange for a conditional discharge. So he basically got in trouble for the trespassing, but not for the crystal meth. Neat.

And as far as I read in the Rolling Stone article, he's still really trying to keep up. Basically, he's trying to revive that 80s 90s like right he's not over it right party boy thing like everyone else grew up and he's on his own yeah well he has some people who are still like trying to be in the in the group but the other thing is like um when he first started the group and he even says to this day like, the point of the group was for people who didn't fit in, who wanted to, like, find their people, that was what our group was. Yeah. And at the beginning, they were anti-drug.

Like, they weren't even. Oh, weird. Straight edge. And then over time, like, the club scene, it just kind of, like, became. Developed. Yeah, developed into, like, a very drug-obsessed group. And it devolved from there, obviously. And so he still says to this day, like,

I want to keep the vibe alive that was before all the drug use, but at the same time, people are like, you literally murdered and dismembered a human. Yeah. So we don't really care. Yeah. So it's kind of, like, up in the air.

Like, he was supposed to do a show this past october halloween this past halloween a couple months ago in la and um people like protested hardcore and like thousands of people said like he's not an lgbt meant like a model we don't want him yeah we don't own him we don't claim him yeah we don't claim him and people were saying like they're 18 year olds and stuff coming to the show and like we don't want a guy who's been glorified for like murdering someone to be yeah a role model in this party whatever so it's it's definitely very like a hot ticket item that's not the right word a hot ticket item the a cold ticket item a very cold tepid yes lukewarm ticket yes on ebay

very cold and lukewarm all of the above it really spans the temperature range everything besides white hot help me uh yeah so basically it's very contentious. He has said in the past, like, don't worry, I can be around drugs. He said in the LA Weekly article, like, I can be around drugs and not do drugs. Isn't that kind of what every person says? Yeah, but then he also said, I can be around drugs and not do drugs but sometimes do drugs and still be me and it's like that's not a thing it's like uh i know my limit after like you've gone way beyond yes it's like no i'm good i know myself i know myself it's like uh we know you too

sometimes i do heroin and murder people but like i know my limit yeah it's okay once i like kill the third person then i need to like calm down you're like trust me just trust me where's the trust man what's what's going on you're getting so defensive so defensive i'm your brother trust me yep yeah so anyway it's very crazy um i looked at his twitter he's definitely tweeting regularly about his like web series and stuff and he's he his twitter bio says he's just happy to be a free man in new york he's not on parole anymore so he's completely free to like drink apparently he only drinks prosecco so good for you bro um living the life you know i will you, I don't want to say I'm giving him credit at all. But you're giving him credit.

If he really is, I mean, I don't know from experience, but I know enough to know that drug addiction is really fucking hard to get over. So if he is actually clean. He's not. He just got arrested for crystal meth. I know. I know. Literally this past year okay never mind i was gonna say if you really are off drugs good for you there well no that's i mean but i guess he's he's not people really supported that but then he was like i can still do drugs every now and then and be anti-drug and it's like yeah that's not how that

works i was trying to throw him a line no no you're right you're right he's he's trying to hustle and make give himself a second life but really also he's not at all yes like if he were actually hustling and trying to make a passion project work and he was off drugs and clean it's like they were all rooting for you but you're not actually doing this he had redeemed himself and then like in the past year he was also arrested for public intoxication at an airport. Like he's just still out of control. Such a shame. Everyone loves a shame.

Everyone loves a good redemption story. And he really was clean for a little while. And you're right. Like it is just so I can't even imagine pulling yourself out of that addiction cycle. But he got back out and was like, here i am i'm back and i can still be the same person and people are like i think you don't realize that you murdered your friend and his family is still like in heartbreak and yeah so it's it's it's it's complicated but yeah so it i know i got excited when i read that he was sober and i was like yay and then it

was like and then he was immediately arrested for doing crystal meth at 1 30 in the morning and i was like oh no so it's a bummer it's a real bummer um there's a documentary on netflix called glory days d-a-z um there's a book written by his friend and mentor james st james who i believe ran his twitter while he was in jail james st james that's the guy also in party monster yes he's very famous yeah yes he's one of the club kids and he actually like deeply admired um a like that during... That was Seth Green's character. It was Seth Green, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he was played by Seth Green in Party Monster,

and he wrote a book called Disco Bloodbath about A-Lake and his life and et cetera and their friendship. And James St. James is kind of like a mentor to him um and they had a lot of phone calls back and forth so he like documented a lot of their phone calls while it like was in jail um there's a documentary also called party monster and then the feature film and that's that man wow listen mckayela suggested this on Facebook while I was at work. And I was like, eh, why not? Thanks, Michaela.

You know what? You ask and you shall receive. I will say, I've met Seth Green. And he's a very, very nice guy. Really? Yeah. That makes me weirdly, warmly fuzzy and happy. And he's not as short as people make fun of him for.

Really? A lot of people are like, he's not as short as people make fun of him for really a lot of people are like like he's like known for being really short and he's not i mean he's short but he's not like like alarmingly short yeah he's not like holy crap like this is worth writing and making fun about all the time and tv short like he's just like a short guy well yeah so if you want to watch him play uh james james yep do it it's called party monster which is what uh he what michael alec was called back in the day so it's kind of a an interesting throwback to 80s 90s culture and when uh mikaela posted that on facebook earlier today i was like maybe i'll

look into it and then i got really sucked into all the articles and then i commented sunglasses emoji sunglasses emoji uh stay tuned god everyone was like everyone's like christine stop drinking everyone's like you're at work quit being an alcoholic well there's nothing our generation loves more than an 80s 90s story we're all about it plus true crime it's called millennials being nostalgic yes it's called we all know how shitty this is even though our parents told us being an adult was bad none of us were prepared and so we like to pretend that we're living like we're nine and that's how the whole generation grew up we like to pretend lisa frank is still surrounding us christine has a lisa frank pin for her denim jacket that i think she just wanted to talk about my new franzia pin and my ho don't do it ho don't do it ouija board

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