And That's Why We Drink - Listener Stories: Vol. 108 (ft. Amanda from Live, Laugh, Larceny)

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

It’s tiiiimeee to kick off spooky season! Welcome to Paraween: Invasion of the Host Snatchers! Today Christine’s been snatched away and we have guest host Amanda from Live, Laugh, Larceny here with Em to cover a batch of Petty and Paranormal Halloween Crime tales. There’s karate master mishaps in haunted houses, classic dad ghost jokes from beyond the grave, and even a haunted sorority house. And can anyone tell us where to find friends? or bush suits? …and that’s why we drink! To hear more from Amanda check out her podcast Live, Laugh, Larceny! Grab your Paraween merch at atwwdmerch.com ! October is here and as a Halloween treat you can get a 30-day free trial of our Apple Plus subscription. That trial unlocks exclusive bonus content on And That's Why We Drink, so grab it while it lasts!___________________ For And That’s Why We Drink listeners, Cure is offering 20% off your first order! Stay hydrated and feel your best by visiting http://curehydration.com/drink and using promo code drink at checkout. If you think you or someone you know might be struggling with OCD, please don’t wait to get help. Go to https://learn.nocd.com/ATTWD and book a free call with their team to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What a run! This champ is picking up speed. But they found a lane. Menominal launch into the air! Absolutely incredible! Air Transat! Fly the seven-time world's best leisure airline champions, Air Transat. Paroine, you've been waiting, we've been waiting, the world's been waiting, they just didn't know it. Paroine is here. Welcome, everybody, to a very special Paroene event. For those who don't know, Christine and I have recently started a network called Parapods. And we wanted to have our very first spooky season by kicking it off right.

Eva had this incredible idea that what if we rallied the troops and summoned all of our true crime, creepy friends, and asked if they could do a big collab with us. And so thank you, Eva, for this idea. So Parapod Presents. We're calling it Paroene. And it's the invasion of the host snatchers. So for several episodes coming your way, I think Eva said six episodes. we have all split up with our co-hosts and we're kind of clashing into each other's

episodes. So, as you can tell, Christine is not here today. Too bad, so sad. And instead, we have the lovely Amanda from Live Laugh Larsonie. Thank you for joining me for our October listeners episode. Oh my goodness. Thank you so much for having me. I cannot wait to hear some of these stories. Wow. Another shout out to Eva, because she, She is the one who looks through all of the stories. And so I also don't know what we're about to read. When we hopped on to Stream Yard, Amanda and Eva were already here. And I overheard something about a story about Road Rage and Taco Bell.

And that being a story you were unaware of and you got to hear about it live or what happened there? You went to crime. Yes. Yes. So, yep, Trevin and I, my co-host, usually, except for today but we went to Crime Con in Denver. It was

amazing. We had a petty crime confession box at our booth. Amazing. And yeah, most of them are going to be a surprise to me. I haven't read them yet, but there was one person who told us what it was and

there was a bit of road rage in the Taco Bell Drive-thru. She ended up throwing a cheesy gordita wrap, something, Burrito. I'm not sure. Please put some respect on its name.

Thank you. I will put my respect on it. And she threw it at the car in front of her that cut them off. I honestly don't know how that story ends. I just got the cliff notes. But we will be reading the petty crime confessions on an upcoming episode. Okay. Good.

I was going to say, how do you walk away from that, not knowing the finale? But I guess that's a mystery for all of us to unravel. Um, but anyway, no, so it's, it's kind of similar here where we don't really know what's being thrust upon us, but Eva has approved it. And sometimes it's, it's a horrifying story. So thank you, Eva. Um, but today I think we have a little theme going. Sometimes we do a theme each month. And we have Halloween pranks on my end. And then I think you brought with you weird true crime headlines. Is that true? Yes. So they're also Halloween prank related, kind of like Halloween prank. gone wrong in the news. And I do have one listener story also if we need that. We do. So, how would you like to do this? Would you like to kick it off as our guest celebrity host?

What's it? What's it in beer pong, a celebrity shot when you, when someone steps in? I'll take it. Okay. That is what it is. That is what it is. And I will take my shot, M. So yes, I can go ahead and go first.

this was who i don't even know the word to describe it perfect for this episode i guess um great i guess you could say uh i saw this and i got it from live five news dot com and the headline article is graphic Halloween decoration spurs 911 call okay are we talking sexual graphic i mean graphic can go a lot of ways um It really can. No, no, no. This is, basically, I don't know if I can show you the picture here, but somebody put a fake dummy underneath their lawnmower and put a bunch of blood around it. And so this happened in Salisbury, North Carolina. And this is just a little snippet of what the article says. the Halloween decor at a home along Oregon Church Road, which by the way... I hate when there's a church road involved and it's spooky. It's just meant written in the stars.

And Oregon ahead of it. Oregon Church Road. That is very creepy. Yeah, like leather face lips on Oregon Church Road, you know? Yes, exactly. So, in eastern Rowan County, scared a driver so much that he called 911, nearly prompting a full emergency response. The call came into the county's 911 communication center Monday morning after the caller stated

that he saw what appeared to be a man trapped under a riding lawnmower. Oh, my God. Luckily, someone else quickly let the 911 folks know it was just a decoration just in time to stop would have been an emergency response. Wow. Wow. Wow. So, I mean, imagine, first of all, although I see the merits, this feels like something any dad would at least conjure up in his brain before physically doing it. So I'm on board with like a prank. Love that.

But yeah, the mental torment of thinking that I actually saw a body under a lawnmower would rock my shit. Like that would be crazy. No, I know. I can you was there blood everywhere? There has to at least be like fake blood if you're going to commit to the the sec back of this all you know yes so it does it does

say this as seen in the pictures taken Monday by WBTV the scene does appear realistic the blood covered arms and legs sticking out from beneath a blood splattered lawnmower on a large patch of grass but no organs in the yard

on Oregon Church Road no organs so how realistic are you being really you know exactly like if you're crushed under a lawnmower there's got to be a little bit of organ action i don't know you know this is kind of i would i wouldn't pair this energy because we're doing Halloween pranks i again love this but i it's it's just under the Halloween pranking of like clowns just standing in your yard you know what i mean oh god because i'm i feel like the whole there's it's one thing to like be pranked and i I'm scared, but there's a whole other category when I'm like, should I call the police?

Like, what's going on? No, absolutely. And I agree with you. I think this had to have been done by a dad. I think you are so spot on. First of all, none of us are going to be like, yeah, let's get a lawnmower out of the garage. First of all, you have to own a lawnmower. That's such a man behavior.

Yeah. Just saying. I don't know a single mom who's like. like let me whip out the fucking John Deere and throw it out on my turf. Yeah, it's not going to happen. Oh my gosh. Anyway.

But yeah, I thought that one was the perfect start. And there was a quote from a local person. I'm going to end this one with this. She said, it's something to talk about around town, said Winda Bethia, the clerk on duty at Cheesman's store. All of this is meant for a horror movie. Oh my God. Would you say her name was Bathsheba or something?

It's Wendy Bathia. That feels spiritual. That feels like she conjured this. She is very magical. So she said, I've had a couple customers talking about it being out there. I think it's harmless. I think it's fun Halloween. And it is.

But for those five milliseconds where I was unsure, if I were the one driving past like how many phone calls were directed to the police station? Like how many people did have to go to therapy after this? I know! That's what I'm saying. That is scarring. I, yeah, I'm definitely like a very dramatic person

and like, yeah, if I saw that, I would be freaking out calling everyone, calling 911, calling my mom, calling my dad, calling my grandma, you know, I'd be like, guys, guys, guys, guys. And question for you, Have you seen Sinister, the movie Sinister? I haven't.

Okay, it's sinister, believe it or not. But there's a really horrific lawnmower scene, which I mean, it's pretty shot for shot, I'm imagining, as this prank seems to be going. But it really rocked me, and it's kind of one of the, I'm personally triggered in a certain way where if I saw someone under a mower, I, it's, it's, I, I'd be moved in a particular way. So, um, if it really was as realistic as they're claiming, then I would be crying. But if it's just like a fake spirit Halloween dummy, then I'm like, that's Uncle Jeff. I know he, I know that's, that's his work right there. Well, right.

Great first headline. Well done. Well done. Thank you. Thank you. Um, I have a listener story for you. Ooh. And it is titled, The Time My Dead Dad Haunted Me for Fun.

See, men love to do this shit, dead or alive. What is wrong with them? What are we going to do? So it's like, I need to bother somebody. Sorry. I'm in a real mood today about men. Sorry. That's every day for me, too.

Don't worry. Okay, perfect. Glad we're on the Zay page. So this is by Rebecca. So, hello, Rebecca. So Rebecca says, hi, everyone. long-time listener, first-time writer, when I saw the request for prank slash petty stories, I immediately knew I needed to write in.

Backstory, I have always been into paranormal spooky things, loved horror movies, and would take any excuse to try to talk to the dead. Where do you stand on out, Amanda? Were you also in that vein? You know, I am a scaredy cat. Trevin forces me to watch scary movies on our Patreon because my reactions are out there, to say the least. I'll tell him to make you watch Sinister next.

Yes. I think he actually does want me to watch that one. So, oh, my God. But, no, I, I've always been, I believe in spirits. I believe in hauntings, all of those things. And I did grow up in a haunted house, but I never, I never tried to interact. That just wasn't for me, you know? Kind of did the, like, keep my eyes open and my mouth shut.

Yeah, exactly. Just keep it moving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I, hmm, I think I'm a little, a touch above that. If Christine were here, I would be probably poking fun at her because she, at any turn, we'll whip out a Ouija board.

But I would say I'm not, I'm not with the Ouija vibes. However, I am, I'm pretty good at shouting into an empty room and thinking a million spirits are hearing me. So I do that a lot, especially when I'm scared. and I just say, shut it down. I don't want this. But yeah, I think I interact a healthy amount and the rest of it. I'm just like, if I don't look, they'll leave, you know?

Oh, yeah. I was at your live show. I saw your spooky investigations. Oh, brother. Well, okay. Well, so. You two are brave. Thank you.

Wow. Finally some recognition over here. Okay. Rebecca says, my dad passed away when I was two and a half. And growing up, we lived in my dad's family home where nearly everyone in my family has lived at some point or another. They've all been in this house. And my mom and I continued to live there after my dad died. It's a three-story home. My aunt lived in the first floor apartment and we lived on the second and third floor apartment. Seeing as it has seen generations

of my dad's family, the house was straight up haunted when we moved in and no one in the family denied it. I want to say horrifying, but also it sounds like it's just haunted by your own family, so you're probably good. I know. I'm like, how many generations? How many generations? does this go back? Because if it's like hundreds of generations of your family has lived there, it's probably, yeah, a familial ghost, right? Yeah, the worst thing about these ghosts, depending on how far back we go, is like maybe they're just like, I don't know, fucking racist.

I don't know. Like, maybe hopefully the worst thing about them in this house. Weird, albeit harmless, things would happen, would constantly happen, like rocking chairs, rocking by themselves, footsteps being heard when no one else was even in the building and plenty of unexplained sounds great and they keep their racism to themselves perfect yeah that's lovely to say my dad was a prankster would be an understatement he was always looking for ways to make people laugh or light in the mood and dying definitely didn't stop him i love that love that he likes a challenge

yeah determined on my birthday one year i invited my best friend rachel to sleep over which meant we got to watch scary movies and stay up all night and raid the kitchen pantry for snacks and we came up with the idea to try to talk to the dead, namely my dad. Okay. Okay. Bring dad to the sleepover, sure. Yeah, I'm like, oh, all right, okay.

Most people want their dad out of that house for a sleepover, but he's totally, come on in. It is important to note that at this point, the only people in the apartment are my mom, who is asleep upstairs, and Rachel and I who are together at the sleepover. So there we sat on the floor in the playroom, holding hands and said something along the lines of,

Dad, if you're here, give us a sign and move something in the room. But nothing happened. We sat there for another five minutes waiting for my dad to do something, but eventually we resorted to watching a movie in the other room. I love that eventually everyone's fed up with their dads. They're like, okay, dad. Way to let me down. I'm going to go watch a movie.

If you're not going to be cool about this, then you're not invited anymore. Exactly. About 20 minutes into the movie, we decided we needed snacks, but as we're going to the kitchen, we noticed that a chair in the playroom is in a different spot. Okay. All of a sudden, I'm out. Weird but okay, maybe we were all just mistaken.

However, when we walked by again, the chair was across the room. Forget it. That's just not happening. No. See, I was so on board with dad doing something cool, and the second he does something cool, I'm like, you have to leave. You have to get back to the movies. we're obviously freaked out but agree once again that maybe we were mistaken so we continue

into the living room to watch the movie and at this point the movie is not being watched and we keep pausing to discuss how the chair definitely moved I love that part of a sleepover though when you can't even get through a movie because you just have to you have to vent about something and they're like am I going crazy like can you can you hear the chair moving so before I go any further we do have a running I don't know debate isn't the right word but we're constantly asking each other, Christine and I, and I'd like to ask you, when something goes abnormally missing, do you think that it actually moves itself across a room, or do you think it vanishes into a void and reappear somewhere else?

That's a good question. I'm not going to lie. We can't figure it out. I just totally drop my neck, sorry. You're totally good. I think Christine has landed on it disappears and reappears. and I'm still kind of on maybe it moves. I don't know.

I never, it changes every day. I am more in the mindset that it moves. I've honestly never until this very conversation have ever considered that it went into a void and then came back out. Fair. I feel like I'm explaining a dream to somebody. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just me. But I feel like it has to physically move, right? I don't know. I just, I feel like there's so many like glitches in the universe where like it could just kind of like just fizzle out for a second and reappear.

That's true. That's true. I don't know. There's a bunch of different multiverses. Sometimes things glitch out and who knows. I also wonder about the strength of a ghost because let's say this chair is moving across the room. Does he have to have muscle mass as a ghost or can he just kind of like mental because I'm imagining like a dad with like like

bad lower back pain or something who can barely push it like trying to scoop this chair for the prank you know what i mean totally like does the does the ghosts have to like hit the ghost gym to get buff before they can move the item i don't know that's a good question too we'll never know well they're in the middle of turning this this tv show off this movie off going like that was weird right that was fucking weird this chair is moving we're obviously freaked out but uh maybe we were mistaken so we continue to we continue into the living room to watch the movie

blah blah blah turn the TV off start talking oh we creeped down the hallway and what do we see in the playroom but the chair Amanda I don't know we creep down the hallway and what do we see in the playroom but the chair hanging off a nail

on the closet door and just like that it's a demon there's immediately I go from dad to demon. That's fucking crazy. That is not your father. I'm sorry. That's not,

especially because your dad would be like, those are my good nails, not on my door hinge, you know, something like that. He'd be like, that needs an anchor in it. That's not strong enough

to hold a chair. Especially like the, we're not even talking about the magical, mystical element of like the chair being able to balance and not just falling and slamming onto the ground.

Like, it's nearly levitating with a little support. Right. I mean That's I mean maybe your dad is really committed to a bit But that's fucking crazy

That's yeah That would absolutely If I were racial I'm never coming back to your house Let's start there I'm never visiting again I know I need to know If they ever had to sleep over together after this

I mean probably not My stomach would be sick I like I would be like There's no sleeping tonight We're going to I hop We're leaving the house I don't know what we're doing But we're getting out of here

Um We sprint back to the living room to debrief about what we just saw. I like how you couldn't possibly just do it as you're looking at it. Right. They're like, get out of here. Okay, what the hell? And we agree that we need to tell my dad to stop because we're too freaked out at this point, despite literally getting what we explicitly asked for.

I mean, isn't that just the worst curse of it all? We walk back into the room and the chair is now on the ground in front of the closet door, which, by the way, we're not talking about the fact that that means it was gently placed. re-levitated off the nail to then be put down instead of slamming to the ground. So yeah, they would have heard it if it fell. That feels like an intelligent request of like, okay, dad, you're freaking out, freaking us out, stop. Yeah.

Taking it off the. Oh, okay. But a framed music poster is in the middle of the floor now. So now he's just taking everything off the hooks at this point. He's like, what about this? What about that? He's like, he's really showing off now. Yeah.

And also, I'm curious about what music poster? Like, what could that mean? Like, is it his favorite band? Is that why she's like, this is my dad? Because maybe I was wrong. Maybe it's not, maybe it's not an evil spirit. If it's like his favorite band and he's like, hey. Yeah, he's like, if you want a real killer sleepover, this is the soundtrack.

You got to throw the vinyl on, you know? Yeah, he's like, turn that movie off that you're not even listening to and listen to the classics. 100%. That is a dad. He's like, guns and. roses or something um let me see uh i say something along the lines of dad thanks for the proof but please stop now fair enough thank goodness he stopped when asked but once i fessed up and told my mom a week later i learned some new facts the room that we were in was the room that my dad had set up

uh while he was sick and still at home the room that all this was happening in oh okay also the poster that made thank you for answering my hard-hitting journalism questions the poster that had made its way into the middle of the room was of david bowie and my and that was his poster was his his his david boy poster okay he's telling you i come on it was your dad i was wrong in the beginning okay he he just wants to boogie it's not that hard he said put the chairs on the door hinges we need dance in room oh he's coming on um plenty of other weird things have happened in that house and my dad still makes his presence known by frequently presenting the number 333 when I need a pick me up. Mine's 2-2-2. Do you have a number like that?

Oh, yes, I do. My number is I see sixes and eights like everywhere and this is probably just like my OCD mental illness, but six means yes to me and eight means no. It's a whole thing. I totally don't judge you for that. That makes it all the sense. Thank you. What was going to freak me out is if in response to the 222 and 333 thing, you were like, oh yeah, mine's 666. Right, right.

Girl, go to a church. Go to church road. Go to Oregon Church Road. My dad still shows himself by presenting the number 333 when I need to pick me up or if I just need to make a big decision. He's been known to do things to my cousins who moved into the apartment after. us like blowing a curtain in my cousin's face when she was having a bad day what a fucking dad move oh your day is bad I'll make it worse yeah might as well spit on me Jesus Christ okay we're moving objects around when you're looking for them sorry that was a long one but hope you enjoyed the story of the time my dead dad prank to set my birthday sleepover thank you Rebecca that was awesome and your dad sounds like I don't know he sounds like he probably tailgated a lot I don't know he sounds like a real party goer, a party animal. But he sounds like he's still around.

Still kicking it. So anyway, thank you, Rebecca. Oh my goodness. That was a good one. Yeah, now that I've got all the information, it does definitely sound like some dad behavior, some dad ghost behavior. Besides the nail, I really am like... It's a little too much. Yeah. I'm like, that was the part where I was uneasy

because I was like, yeah, my dad's constantly being like, that needs an anchor in it just a nail can't hold it like that's just what i'm used to but hey and honestly if he i mean he really does sound like you was like like a party animal he sounds like he knew how to throw down and so maybe he just came on a little too strong oh maybe he was just like you want to see some crazy ghost shit look what i can do now that i'm a ghost and everyone was like ah make it more human and he went oh okay you're poster yeah yeah she's like dad not in front of my friends put the Channel down. I mean, I could, yeah, I could see myself doing that as a ghost.

If someone's like, I need proof, in my mind, I'd be like, I'm going to give you the craziest proof. I'm going to lift up a couch and put it on the ceiling. And then everyone's like, ah, poltergeist. And I'm like, oh, I can't win. I don't know what to do. So maybe, maybe that's what was going on there. But I'm glad he, he dialed it down from a 12 to, like, maybe a healthy six, you know.

Yes. Do you have any, any ghost things like that? Have you ever seen fucking furniture levitate or anything? Oh, God. No, I've never had anything like that happen so far in my life, luckily. But like I said, I did grow up in a haunted house where we would hear voices. Furniture would be moved, not necessarily like in this story, but we would come home and like the couch would be shifted or there were a couple times. it was when I was in high school

and my room was in the basement and my dad would be like Amanda are you okay because he'd hear something and it was like this weird like high pitched voice and then he'd go down there and I'd be asleep and it wasn't me now this one actually does tie in

I did have a sleepover once growing up I think I was in middle school maybe early high school and it was in the haunted house we were in the basement and it was like a it had a light that you could fade it you know you could make it really bright or dim it and uh the lights were on fully full bright light and the light slowly dimmed off and we all of course you know screamed and freaked out and we're like who did that like someone's messing with us

thinking it was my brother or my dad yeah yeah and um anyway we were like you know hunched all to together and then slowly the light dimmed all the way back on and absolutely no one was standing there. There was no one even nearby. Oh, immediate chills. Yeah. So that's really the spookiest thing that I've ever had happened. Well, similar to do you think things physically move or like kind of pop out somewhere else, do you think that the dimmer itself was actually moving or do you think it just kind of controlled the electricity? Oh, see? I don't know. It doesn't need the material item to do what it wants to do to do.

That's not really good point. What do you think about like flickering lights? That's not like there's a ghost by the switch doing this. Right, right, right. They're not like, da-da-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l- Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I never, because we were so scared and hunched together, I never looked at the dimmer as it was happening, you know, so.

Sure. I wish I would have. That would have been something. But good question. I always assumed it had to move, but now you have me rethinking everything. Thank you. You know, I like to ruin people's day, if anything. Hey.

Just to give you something to really ponder and never have an answer to. Some people would say that's like the worst gift I can give you is just a headache. So enjoy. I don't know. Just something to think about when I need a, you know, a new thought. That's why. Because to me, no, to me, it's why. one of those thoughts that would it drives me to a brink of insanity every now and then because i'll

just sit there and i'll just think about it and i'll never know i just have to just live without knowing it and it drive i can't can't google that one you know right right oh it drives me nuts so i'm haunted by those thoughts always please join me in that a lot of people think that oCD is just kind of this set of stereotypes but they don't realize that it's actually a serious and highly misunderstood condition that causes people to get stuck in a cycle of stressful, unwanted thoughts and repetitive physical behaviors. A lot of people don't even know if they have it or they feel shame about it or they get stuck in the suffering and silence of it all. A lot of people, I mean, the thoughts are really intrusive and the behaviors that they do to try to alleviate those thoughts are, you know, they take over

your life. It can be really debilitating. One of the other problems is that not every therapist understands OCD or is qualified to treat it effectively, which can make it difficult to find the right help. And then that makes you feel stuck all over again. But OCD is highly treatable with a specialized type of therapy called ERP or exposure and response prevention. And Christina's done it. Christina said that it's definitely helped her a lot. And with an OCD, you can do live virtual ERP therapy with licensed therapists who specialize in OCD. No CD therapists are highly trained so they really understand OCD and won't judge you no matter what your thoughts are, whether they're super intrusive, even if they're on the lighter side and you just want to talk to somebody. They are

there for you. NoCD therapy is covered by insurance for over 155 million Americans. So if you think you or someone you know might be struggling with OCD, please don't wait to go get help. Go to nocd.com and book a free call with their team to learn more. That's nocd.com to schedule a free call and learn more. Do you have another headline? I do. And this is actually a headline that was recommended to us from a listener on our Facebook group, and I think it was suggested like a year ago, but I was looking up Halloween things to see what people had suggested. So sorry, Steve, that it took this long for me to get to it. Oh, there's people, when we do a listener's episodes, sometimes they're like,

oh, my God, I just started listening. And then we look at the date of the email, and it's like from five years ago. And I'm like, oh, wow, you're probably not even here anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. But this is from the New York Post. And the title is, Boosed Up, Karate Master,

beats up worker dressed as a ghost, then sues haunted house and loses. Oh, a lot of things are happening there. Okay. A lot of things are happening. Can you like... Can you like... Yeah, I can say it one more time.

So, Boost Up, Karate Master, beats up worker dressed as a ghost, then sues haunted house and loses. I'm with you now. Okay. So like he probably went to like a jump scare attraction. That's what I think so. Yes, yes, yes.

Which, by the way, do you like those, M? Do you go to like the haunted houses? You have no idea what little box of mysteries you're opening up here. I love, love these. I usually for October because there's usually like four weekends, I pick four big jump scare attractions. I'm lucky. I live in L.A. where there's just like stuff everywhere. Oh, nice.

Usually there's like universal and there's, there's a haunted hayride, there's a Knottesbury Farm. Everything's got something going on. There's nothing I love more than the jump scares. And my thing, though, is they don't scare me. I think I'm just too in the headspace of like, I really like movie sets and I feel like I'm on a movie set. And so I just walk around and I'm observing the material and how it all got made. So I'm like the most boring person to walk in there. But usually I go with my girlfriend who's much more of a scaredy cat, in which case I just kind of like, she makes me stand in front of her sometimes, in which case I kind of secretly point and I like, go get her. Go get her. I'm not here for that.

Yeah. So anyway, I love them. Do you love them? You know, for being such a scaredy cat myself, I actually do really enjoy a haunted house because I know logically, it's not a real situation. However, I do get scared by them. And I am like the loudest scaredy cat in the whole thing. So if we ever go together, yeah, I'll be the one being like, ah! Well, they have the one of them that is out here is the Queen Mary,

which we've, Eva and I have both investigated with Christine. and that was our first tour that was the footage that we got was at the Queen Mary and there's supposedly a ghost there named Jackie who's a little girl but she's actually a demon and disguised and so they have a whole jump scare attraction

on the ship where the whole thing is like Jackie tries to jump out and scare you and so it's very fun to go there especially because some of the more haunted areas of the Queen Mary are like the boiler room and they have this whole dark jump scare attraction through all these places is that Christine Eva and I actually investigated.

So it's very weird to be walking through a place that they've dressed as if it's haunted when can confirm I've been in there alone without all the Halloween decorations or with them actually because they were setting up poor Halloween. Oh my gosh. And it's incredible you don't need to josh it up. It's fucking haunted. Right. Yeah, that's actually really interesting.

An already haunted space and then making it a haunted attraction. Yeah. It wasn't aesthetic enough, I guess. I don't know. Yeah. I guess not. So, um,

so this article, let's get back to this. So, uh, a boost-up karate expert in Japan shattered the jaw of a worker dressed as a ghost because he got startled at a haunted house.

Hmm. Then took the spooky theme park to court and lost. So it says, the suing sensei. Ooh, I like that. I love that. The suing sensei claimed it was simply a reflex when he landed a kick to

the face on a worker who had frightened him at the Toy Coyoto Studio Park in 2011. Hmm. Um, oh my gosh. Okay. Is it an attraction? A Halloween attraction? Well, you're, yes. I think it is.

Yes, yes, yes. At the Toy Coyoto Studio Park. Yes. So I didn't realize this was such a long ongoing legal battle. So during a 13 year legal battle, the injured ghost won $68,400 settlement from the Karate Pro as payment for his broken jaw in 2015. Oh my God. Wow.

Okay. The person who got, or the person who kicked, I guess, their name hasn't been released. Sure. But he later filed a lawsuit claiming the park was partially responsible for the attack because it failed to train staff

to prevent a, attacks. What? I'm sorry. Nobody is trained to prevent attacks. You just get attacked and then you have to deal with it. What are you talking about? Yeah.

That startled me. So yes, he said, because it failed to train staff to prevent attacks by scared visitors. It sounds like he's saying like, well, they couldn't keep up with me. Like, they just couldn't. Right. Well, they didn't have a baseball bat, so it's not my fault that they. They didn't hit me with the baseball bat that doesn't exist. What are you talking about?

Yeah, he's like, actually, you guys need to have formal training on how to prevent attacks from scared individuals. Like, what? I mean, it's literally victim blaming of being like, well, you should have stopped me and you didn't. So I'm in the right to have done this. What are you saying? Oh, my God. So in the lawsuit, he claimed that the park, he claimed that the park didn't inform customers that humans were playing the roles of guns. I'm so sorry

and demanded it pays 70% of the settlement okay he needed to be warned that Casper would be at a Halloween event and also he wasn't when you hit a ghost and it has a fucking jaw and you break it be prepared it wasn't ever a ghost buddy

I don't know what to tell you I mean I've never been to a haunted attraction where someone came out and they're like listen up everybody the ghosts inside they are played by actual real life humans and I'm going to need you

not to kick them in the jaw does he think Halloween Town is like based on a true story or something like what do you like there are skeletons who are cab drivers it just happens what do you mean I simply don't know but that is the most absurd thing no wonder he lost his lawsuit

like what and his lawyer had to have given the deep sigh before he had to say that out loud in a courtroom of like this is our defense the judge should have been like just turn around and try again that's not that can't be the judge is just like just go home yeah it's like i could tell that even you're over this if this is what you brought brought to me um well okay so what i was going to say is for whenever i go to um hondo attractions i often go with a friend who happens to be named christian but is not christina but that's why i drink. Oh, okay. And she, she has to walk through clasping both of her hands because her

first reaction when she gets startled is to punch. And so she has to keep her hands like really still. But her reaction is to kind of fling out and like, you know, get whoever is coming at her. So I could understand if he really was scared, maybe hit, but doing like a full kick to the jaw or whatever is like really theatrical. like that's that's not a reaction that's a trained if you want to call it a trained response that's it's too beautiful of a reaction you know what i mean yes exactly it's not like a quick like he was like oh yeah i mean and he's a trained like a little spin like to wind up you know yes that is like he's a trained sensei like come on yeah yeah you're i don't i don't understand

And also, it would, maybe I could see it if this was an attraction. I can't do these. This is where I tap out. When they're the jump scare attractions where they're allowed to touch you. Oh, yeah. Like, I would never. One of the reasons I don't get scared at them is because I know they can't touch me. So I know I'm safe a whole time.

But if something came at me, sure, I would probably also throw a punch if I got too scared. But this is, this sounds like it was not that. I, no wonder you lost, this is such a, this feels at this point the headline is like, what's the saying on TikTok? like breaking news water is wet or something like yeah yeah yeah of course hitting an employee you're not going to win that lawsuit and of course the ghosts are played by humans like what did he think they were played by robots goats like a disney animatronic yeah yeah yeah like the old chucky cheese animatronics but it's ghosts like what i don't know silly well he has after

13 years, too. He has to have thought at least once, I'm probably going to lose this case. Like, why don't you just tap out at some point and say, like, I'm done paying lawyers for 13 years on this? 13 years of a legal battle. Just give it up. You broke a jaw.

He's either incredibly stubborn and, like, dug his heels in knowing that this was not going well for him, but he couldn't back out. Or he was weirdly confident in his defense, which is a whole other, that's a maybe a mental health emergency.

Maybe. Oh, man. Well, good headline. Well done. Good find. That was, it was a, it was a silly one. I didn't realize it went on that long, though. That was an, I didn't read that part earlier.

Oh, that's okay. No, I appreciate the juicy info. You know his family still makes fun of him at Thanksgiving, being like, oh, what are you going to do? Kick me in the jaw. It costs you have $100,000 and 13 years your life. Like, you have to get ragged on it by someone. Someone at the bar makes fun of it.

of you, you know? Right. If they're not, then I'm questioning the people in his life. Like, someone needs to hold this guy accountable. Yeah. If he's not around people who are holding him accountable, he's in the wrong circle. Here is another story for you. This is by another Rebecca. And the title of this is Sorority House Haunts. I don't know if you know this, but I seem to stumble across quite a few haunted sorority fraternity. houses. I guess because there's just so much chaos there, right? And hormones in theory, spirits kind of feed off that energy. So yeah, it's kind of like a lot of poltergeist cases. If, you know, it could just be a hoax. But the running serious theory is that if there are teenagers in the house,

because they're going through so much developmentally, their energy's a little more chaotic, they're a little off kilter and so they may be channeling chaotic energy or energy's already there that now has something to feed off of and so a lot of poltergeist cases do have preteen teenagers in the home. So you are telling me right now that not only do I have to worry about my two daughters turning into teenagers in general, but I have to worry about now a poltergeist coming up in my house? The biggest apology one could give.

that that is on the docket of symptoms I don't warn you love is poltergeist. Yeah, this is not explained to me ahead of time. If it helps, the other running theory, though, is that this is all a hoax and one of the odds that there's always teenagers in the homes of poltergeist cases where they could just be playing pranks on their parents. So maybe you've just got some prankster living children, you know, instead of just demons kind of crawling around. Anyway, I would take that.

Good luck. Yeah, yeah, good luck with that. So this is from Rebecca. Rebecca says, I have lived in a sorority house for three years now, and I have experienced some creepy shit. Our house is known to be haunted by our old house mom, Miss Lius, who died in the house in the late 1990s. It has said that she watches over us from time to time to make sure we follow the rules

and be good sisters. So we know that we have an old lady spirit in the house watching over us. but it has never scared us. But I saw something else that made the whole house pretty spooked. One night I was walking from my corner room to the bathroom to get ready for bed. And this was around midnight. So it wasn't like 3 a.m. or anything super creepy like that. This was a normal night and I was just getting ready for bed.

But to get to the bathroom, I had to turn a corner to get into this long, narrow hallway, which was about 10 or 15 steps away. This long hallway is creepy like what you say. see in horror movies. So with tired eyes, I turned the corner and entered the hallway and I see a girl with long curly hair standing at the end of it. This is some shining shit. Yeah. That's exactly what that is, which by the way, Trevin went to the Stanley Hotel when we were in Denver for CrimeCon. And yeah, that's the exact vibe this is giving. A hundred percent. And also I can't

imagine the hotel prices must have been in such a surge at the Stanley if crime. crime con was like right around the corner. I feel like everyone was staying at the Stanley. That's so cool. Yeah. What was I going to say? First of all, not to, I fully believe something creepy is about to happen,

but while I still have my sanity intact, I will say she lives in a sorority house. It has to happen all the time that you see a girl standing at the end of a hallway, you know? Yeah, like people are getting drunk. People are coming back to the sorority house, probably like, you know, barely clinging on to consciousness. Yeah, so, yeah, I'm curious to see how this takes the turn, yeah.

I agree. I feel like so far, she's telling me she's in a sorority house and she saw a girl. Ah, it's like, yeah, girl's a sorority sister. Okay, just while we have a moment of normalcy. I stopped in my tracks and just stared at this girl wondering if it was my friend Katie who lived at the end of the hall because she's the only person who had that type of curly hair. I couldn't tell if she was looking down or looking at me. due to the dark lighting. However, I do remember the long curly hair she had. So while staring at

whatever she was, or it was, I slowly walked towards it because the bathroom was just 15 steps away. I like that mental game of like, I do have to approach you. Not too far. Just a little. I have to tinkle. Please let me. Please don't also meet me in the middle. Oh my God. I like how you're like all of a sudden I'd be the world's best mathematician I'm like how far is 15 feet how many inches do I have to move forward to this girl I didn't want to blink just in case it went away and when I got that's already your thought is like if I blink she'll vanish yeah when I got to the bathroom entrance I put my stuff down got my toothbrush and toothpaste and went back out there to see if she was still there and she was not I didn't think much of it until months later oh Wow. One of the girls posted on our page on Facebook saying that she felt like Miss Lius had been messing with her, their old, the ghost house mom. About 10 girls had the same experiences and three girls mentioned them having dreams of a girl with curly hair by their bed.

No, I can take it being at the end of the hall. Like I can run down the hall or whatever, but no one needs to be haunting me next. to my bed. I really need the rim sleep. Like, uh-uh. And not to be so creepy, but like, if she's letting you see her at the end of the hall, what is she not letting you see? Like, how, like, she's been in your room.

That's, oh, yeah. Also, if you're dead and you're stuck there for eternity, you're snooping through people's stuff. There's no way you're not. So she's, by day, she's looking through your closet and at night she's just maybe the nice way is keeping an eye on you, but also she's standing at the foot of your bed. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Like, let's have some personal space here. Gross. So they realized that the curly-haired girl in the hallway, I then realized the curly-haired girl in the hallway months before was probably the ghost that they had been dreaming about. And it couldn't have been Ms. Lyas because she was an old lady and this girl looked college age.

Since all of us in the house were super sketched out about living in this house, we called a priest to bless it. I love the teamwork that everyone's like, let's just knock this out. A group of girls, including me, followed this priest as he blessed every window and door of the house. He said he would pray softly when he blessed it and would only pray out loud when he felt more tension. So the louder he got, the creepier the room was. Oh, my God.

He prayed out loud only once in my friend Bailey's room on the other side of the house. Bailey told us before that that she had gotten locked out of her room and had to get the master key since you can only lock it from inside. side. But when she opened the door, no one was in her room. And there were witnesses saying that no one was in her room while she was gone for the 10 minutes. So it absolutely just locked itself from the inside. Oh my gosh. When she was telling her dad would happen on the phone, her, uh, she was in her room when she was on this phone call and her phone call went out multiple times and her TV made static noise by itself. Sometimes downstairs when it's late, people have said that they heard rings of a grandfather clock go off and we don't have a grandfather.

father clock. I beg of you. What are you talking about? Um, okay, that might be the creepiest thing of all. 100%. Because that's from another time. It's like time is kind of like melting into each other. Yes. Like did the house at one time have a grandfather clock? That's what I'm thinking. You have to. You have to assume that there's like some old, like the history itself is haunted there. Yes. And I was wondering about the age of the girl because, yeah, she was saying it was like an older sorority mom but then maybe it was her back in her youth I don't know that's a great point like maybe it and you know what a lot of people say that if you see someone's ghost you actually see them at like the age that they were the happiest or you see them at the age that was like most pivotal so like a lot of people say like I saw my grandfather but he was in his 30s and I didn't know that it was him I thought there was just a random ghost to my house until I found a photo album and I saw him in his 30s. and it was him so um oh okay hey see this is the first time you've given me hope like maybe when i come back to haunt people i'll be like in my prime you know i i i eva if you could quote that

for a review on this podcast this is the first time you've given me hope and it took like eight years of podcasting by the way that someone's ever said to me so thank you um recently other girls have seen someone in their room who they do not recognize late at night and one girl even woke up with scratches on her back. Okay, all of a sudden, I'm back to not having hope. You? Same. That lasted so shortly.

That was like literally a duration of four seconds. Scratches on the back and we're back to reality. Every now and again, things will happen, but we have not solved who that girl with the curly hair is. I haven't seen her since I saw her in the hallway, so she still remains a mystery. And I have to tell you one how, oh, before we get into that, you have to know, she has to know, she had everyone has to know in this house that you if you're talking about her in the house she can probably hear you too and now nobody has seen her i wonder if she was like kind of shamed away you know like if she's like embarrassed that people are so freaked out by her maybe she's wanted to hang out i don't know she's like you brought a priest

into this i thought this was a sisterhood whatever happened to community um but yeah no i i mean what are the people she must be hearing herself getting talked about and all of a sudden now she's silent you know I don't know. I don't know. Interesting. I had to tell you one Halloween night, I played a prank on everyone in the sorority, and I had a friend take a picture of me at the end of the hallway since I have curly hair, and I posted it on our Facebook page saying I had proof the ghost was back, and we needed to call the priest again.

I basically made everyone pee themselves, and some people even slept somewhere else that night. It was the best prank I ever pulled, and people are still talking about it. But now if I see something again, no one will ever believe me. Yeah, you did kind of shoot yourself in the book. Yeah. you're you're the girl that cried ghost at this point that's exactly beautiful someone write that write that story um i thank you for listening to my stories i write this in my new room in my sorority house at the other end of the creepiest hallway right where i saw the girl yeah karma's coming um

so wish me luck as my roommate and best friend shannon and i pray over a bottle of holy water for the next five months and then um she actually did send a picture of her standing at the end of the hall the prank the prank picture let me see if I oh my god oh yeah I would love to see is it in the oh wait oh wait I do see it it's in the folder that is so creepy if that's what you saw I can understand why it's it's an ongoing conversation for you totally get it I have a lot of follow-up questions. I want to know, like, is it the, is it the house mom and she's just returning, like we said, in her youth? Or was there a young, curly-haired gal that maybe passed away in the

house, too, that they just don't know about? Or like, maybe, maybe before the house was there, was it some other, what other place could it have been? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. It could be anything. Um, do-da-da-do. Thank you. for your story uh do you have i think you have one more you have two more you have a headline yeah i have a few um we definitely do not have to go through all of them but let's see i have what's this one let me see if this is a good next one okay no not that one i want to do you're like i got to really bring it all of a sudden i know i'm like no no no okay this one is wild so this is from CBSNews.com

and the headline is Taunton family filing lawsuit after Halloween prank mishap at school. So Taunton is the town that it takes place in. So it says a Halloween prank

last year could prove to be very costly to the Taunton school system. Last October, a teacher at Taunton High School asked a 15 year old student to answer a knock on the class. door. At the door was a man in a mask and carrying what appeared to be a running chainsaw. Oh, my fucking God. Yeah, I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That goes, that's no one's

uncle or dad. That's that person, that's over the line in so many ways. Of course. So many ways, like, you can't bring in a chainsaw to a school. And also, given the state of our nation, you cannot be grown man just walking into a school you just what is your and if your intention is to scare children with a weapon that could end their lives this is literally go time travel to another era where like that was not going to be so wildly inappropriate like i don't know i don't know where that where that timeline is but go there i guess it yeah because this was back in 2011 that's not that far away or that's not that long ago like i guess that that was that was that was before gun violence got really serious at school.

So I guess it, maybe we're hearing it with new context. And it's much worse than it probably would have been taken then. Definitely. So after this masked man with what appeared to be a running chainsaw came in, the student opened the door, then jumped back, tripped, and fractured a kneecap. Oh, no.

What a comedy of errors. Oh, my God. Everything about this just is the biggest prank fail of all time. So there's a quote from the family's attorney saying he was extremely terrified. Well, yeah, yeah, I'm sure. You don't say. To be fair, I, like, without a random man with a chainsaw in front of me, I fall standing up. So I can't imagine if all of a sudden my knees buckle out of fear.

Like, I'm, I'm hitting the floor. There's no way. Yeah. Of course you'd hurt yourself. I, that's terrible. That's, and how do you explain that to your doctor? Like, when they're like, oh, why, what are you in here for? It's like, well, I thought I was going to have to run for my life and instead my knees just gave out instantly.

Yeah. Like, imagine that doctor. He's like, excuse me? Yeah. The whole town, again, talk about another people at the bar have to make fun of this chainsaw guy to be like, who the hell do you think you are. They have to. So the lawyer goes on the quote saying, he just wasn't expecting something like that. Okay, both of these sentences are like the most common sentence statements I've ever heard my life. It's again, water is wet. It's like, yeah, no one expects, no one would expect that at all.

Oh my God. So the family prepared a lawsuit, but was exploring ways to avoid trial to do better than the $100,000 cap when suing city employees. And so actually, I'm not sure. It said any potential trial would begin in the spring. And this was back in 2011. So I don't have the update. Yeah. But whoever did that needs to be punished.

Punished. And again, I think because in the timeline and the flow of things, this was before we have some really good reasons to be scared of our kids experiencing a strange manner to school um i i'm sure he got like lighter charges but i wonder what his charges would be today of like inciting fear or like he would be like listed as like a domestic terrorist or something like it would oh absolutely it would honestly it would not be it would not be like a lawsuit or whatever like there would be like charges charges but for sure like he would i mean certainly be like talk about getting shunned like

he would not be able to show his face anymore and i yeah honestly this is a a weird way to phrase but i feel like he has no idea how lucky he is that he did that in the time that he did it like i know i'm mad you can't like he probably thought when he did that before someone like hurt their leg i feel like he woke up that morning and thought people are going to talk about this for years to come and it's going to be so funny and it's like little did you know like 10 years from then nobody would find that funny dude like no one at all oh my the room and take your mask and chainsaw elsewhere literally anywhere and i will say like let's not forget like why did why was his thought i'm going to wake up today and pull a prank and i'm going to scare someone

and it's ha ha ha ha but why would he pick a school full of children you couldn't do this at like the office like you couldn't do this at a gym your neighbor yeah terrorize anyone else but the children why did you pick children unless like like did your son go there and his favorite movie is like a chains like wait do you have contacts we don't know about or else like what was your fucking plant what was the reason i'll never know we will never ever know yeah that's another thing added to the list you're going to have to think about that one forever so oh man well uh the i have one more story for you is do you have time for it yes i am ready okay perfect

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So get ready for that. Okay. Amelia says my love for the spooky and for pranks extends way back, but one of my very first pranks involves Slender Man. I was newly involved in theater at my high school, and we were set to have our dress rehearsals going late into the night on the week of Halloween. At the same time, the Slender Man game had been going viral,

where a tall man in a suit with no face, just a blank white facade, he became popular due to internet lore, and the Slender Man game was a computer game where you went hunting around dark woods with a flashlight looking for scary notes that the children he took left behind and he tried to avoid him lurking out there in the night.

So you go out there just to tell yourself he's out there and then you hide from probably nothing, hopefully nothing. Hopefully. That's the best case scenario. Maybe it's a man who just left a school with a chainsaw, you know? Right. Well, since I was new to the theater world,

I, for some reason, got it in my head that I would make these spooky notes and hide them around the back of the theater and wait for a reaction. Honestly, that's exactly the friend I would have had in high school. Like, I'm trying to make friends. Why don't I terrorize everybody?

That'll do it. I'm going to terrorize everyone. Make a memory. That'll be how they like you. The notes were written on parchment paper and I used charcoal to mimic the notes of the game. Some of the notes contained sayings like, no, no, no, no, no.

and other and drawings of Slender Man himself. I was in choir and so during the day of the prank I convinced my choir director to let me into the dressing room and I hid one of my notes in my friend's costume.

Later the night as we got dressed for our rehearsal she found the note everyone started freaking out I love that this is right before rehearsal and like the teacher you know how a chorus teacher is probably just like we have so much work that needs to be done tomorrow was opening night.

And then someone finds a fucking slender man note in their pocket to distract you from the last night you have to practice. Yep. Horrible timing. Everyone started freaking out. After all, the door had been locked to the dressing room all day. So who could have even gotten in there? And later, during a scene where almost everyone else was on stage,

I taped a note to one of the stage doors. Relentless. When everyone came off stage and found the second note, things really ramped up. This is like in the middle of a, fucking show it seems like and like in between can you imagine you're watching hamilton and like when people aren't on stage there's like they're trying to solve a crime they're like there's a murder mystery going on backstage yeah uh well they'd all forgotten that i was not on stage and they became

convinced that maybe one of the stage hands had done it but couldn't agree on who it would have been the cast members proceeded to spray the notes with hair spray and agreed to burn them after rehearsal to get rid of them. And my friend whose costume I had hidden the first note in got really freaked out. So at this point, I took her aside and told her it was me and asked if she would join me in this crusade, of course. She agreed and took a note out to her car, placed it inside the car, and locked it. Then I put another note on top of another person's windshield. And by the time rehearsal ended, everyone was super excited to burn their notes and be done with them. But when they all walked out to their individual cars, they found all these new notes.

My friend opened her locked door and put on an excellent performance. Yeah, everyone's in theater. I forgot. This is perfect. Desperally asking around as to how someone could have accessed her locked car. The castmates began to light the notes on fire, but they wouldn't catch. To this day, I don't really know why they wouldn't light on fire. Anyways, that really caused a whole other panic.

And as people screamed and got into their cars, more notes were slowly found. People peeled out of that part. parking lot terrified. I was so proud of this prank. And the next day I tried again, but it wasn't as funny in the daylight. And I fessed up to the prank. I've now learned to stop while I'm ahead, but it started a love of good-natured pranks, especially if I can get my friends involved. I like, you know what, she manifested. I want to make friends. And people can't forget your name after that. I'll tell you. That's absolutely. And you learned a life lesson. I mean, I don't know how many times I have to tell this to my seven-year-old a lot. I'm like, it's only,

funny the first time. Yes. You cannot keep on with this one. So it sounds like she definitely like learned her lesson and things are a lot creepier just at nighttime in general. Oh yeah. And also if a prank is that good, it's a it's very quickly going to swell and you won't be able to keep it together. You know what I mean? Right. You got to you got to just cut your losses while you're ahead and be like, wasn't that really cool before it really blew up in my face? Yeah. So wow. Great, great Halloween prank. That gives me Phantom of the Opera vibes. I love it.

I love it. Do you have one last one for us to end on? Yes, I do. So, this is a good one. This is a good one to end on. So, in this one, it looks like it was back in 2017. So, perfect. This is from Wilkes10.com.

It's a news station. and it said the headline is teens face arrest for pre-Halline prank and this happened in Rauway, New Jersey. So here we go. Teenagers who are getting a jump on Halloween by dressing up as bushes and surprising people in a New Jersey park

could face arrests. The Union County Police Department fears the self-proclaimed Raway Bushmen could cause someone to fall and sue the county. I mean, we did just see that with the suing and the sensei and the teacher and the... I feel like the person who hurt their need, their dad is in charge of that council. It's like, I've seen this before. He said, I've been down this road.

Also, the Rawway Bushman, that sounds like a minor league baseball team. Also, where are we finding all these Bush costumes? Are they also in theater? That's what I'm saying. like where do you do you go to dick sporting goods like where do you even find such a thing yeah i mean i guess it would be i really can't actually think of a way where that would be funny because the only time i'm near bushes is if i'm like parking or if i'm relatively near the bushes and i feel like depending on how many people are around even if it's two people all of a sudden people just

spring out and they're right next to you immediately i'd be too freaked out oh yeah Absolutely. And they were doing this. This article came out October 26. So they were doing it around Halloween time when people are a little more like, ah, on edge. So two of the high school students would cover camouflage suits with brush while a third acts as a lookout. They stand in the Rockway River Park and say hi to unsuspecting visitors. That's not that scary. that alone though at a certain point I'm just like okay why are we saying hi to each other I'm like that's too much they're not even saying boo they're like hi I'm just the bushman I will appreciate I will appreciate that they're at least trying to let you know in advance like I'm not a threat this is supposed to be silly versus like hi you know yeah they could be like rah or I'm gonna get you but instead they're like hi it's like is this just how you want to be friends like everyone just trying to make friends in a weird way

just like that last story i told we all just need a friend that's what the real life lesson is here so one of the teens who would not give out their name to the publication said it's more or less an idea to try to make people smile yeah come on i think i need to see this in real life to understand the lightheartedness of it because i think i'm just primed for true crime, as you probably are also. Yes, definitely. When I hear, we hide in the bushes and, I mean, it sounds like maybe they're not jumping out of people.

They're just saying hi. If they're just saying hi, that's fine. I think in my mind, I'm assuming they're like coming at you. I think that they, yeah, I think that they're like hiding and pretending to be a bush and then they're just popping out going, hi. And like, they're trying to scare people and make them laugh, I guess. I don't know. That makes it, that makes it sillier.

That makes it more. I appreciate the energy. the, we're not going to approach you. We're just going to prank you from here. I like that. Yes. Keep a distance. And it seems like the article, it didn't have a good ending,

but it seems like the media was like trying to be like, you could face charges if you keep doing this. And it's like, guys, come on. Yeah. Oh my God. In that case, if they're just sitting in a public space and saying hi, all of a sudden I'm on.

their side and now I'm like, why would you get a charge for being polite? How dare you? Like, I've really shifted gears in this story. Same. Where do you stand on this? Okay. I do think, I don't know, I, like I said, I'm a big scarty cat. So like, even if somebody said something as simple as like, hi to me, I'd probably still jump or scream. But I would, me personally, if I saw it was just a bunch of teenagers dressed as like a bush, like, or whatever they're doing, I think I would just laugh. I think I would I would roll with the punches but I could see how some people wouldn't. And a lot of people don't let things go the way I do. So it's a good way to take it. That's a good way to look at it. I think once I erase the element of them jumping out at me from

the bushes, I now I'm on board. But I really for a second just assumed it was like all the other stories we've been talking about. So now I'm on board. I like it. And now I'm mad that they were ever threatened with a charge like they're just saying hello i know i know i think that was probably the most lighthearted out of all of them nobody got a broken jaw a busted kneecap um not an injury in sight no one invading a school you know yeah yeah i like this one this is i feel like i i would probably actually get it on this if i saw it in real life i'd be like what are you doing you're just saying hi to people i would just go and sit with them and then it worked they made a friend yes they made a friend. And also, I need anybody listening right now. Where do you find a Bush costume? Like what

where is this? Like, am I like totally out of the loop on this? Like I maybe this is a rural community where this is like common knowledge. I don't know. I did think you were going to say based on the way you paused. Um, where do you find friends? And I was going to be like, girl, I don't know. The street of the fucking century. Where do you find friends? Can somebody please tell me? I find him in the same place that you find these stupid bush suits because I can't find

either of them. I guess I would assume like it was a camo guy, right? So I'm guessing he went to. Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. He's like glue sticks to himself? I don't know. But it worked.

I guess he got attention. That's certainly happened. Yeah. How, if you had to go out and make a friend, what would be your way of doing it versus taping six to yourself? You know, well, for example, this weekend when we just went to CrimeCon, it's fresh on my brain. My icebreaker was like, hey, do you want to spin this wheel and see if you're a petty criminal? So like maybe I'm not like the best one to answer me. No, that's smooth as shit.

Oh my God, that would work so well. Yeah. So I like, I like to make a friend by asking a random, ridiculous question and a happy tone. That's my go-to. That's a very safe way to do that. That's a, that's, I feel like that's guaranteed to work. No? I mean, it doesn't work every time. I'll tell you that, but the majority. It would have worked on me. That sounds incredible. I might steal that. I'm going to the dog park later. I'll just start asking people if they're petty criminals. Let's see. Wait a minute. I did it wrong. Are you a petty criminal? I think I constantly am finding ways to almost do the right thing and then it's just it just now I'm asking people if they're criminals whoopsies um well that sounds great and by the way um I'll ask you um off air too but I'm glad that you went to crime con we've we've never we haven't gone since like the first year that we started the podcast so I'm curious how it's changed since so um but yeah I'm and also thank you for coming and taking time because you came here from crime con basically right you like came you got in last night we got in last night but i i got a good

night's sleep i was feeling good so yeah there's no worry i i will say my sinuses are a little irritated just because i'm not used to the mountain air and who knows what kind of germs were being spread but i know yeah i please take take a shot oj or something uh just yes definitely well thank you for coming on to our our listeners episode and uh It's October. It's spooky season. Do you have any plans for spooky season? Do you, what do you do for Halloween each year? Halloween is my favorite holiday of all time. So, yes, your sweater that you're wearing right now, 10 out of 10. Thank you. My emergency Halloween costume. Yes, thank you. Yes. Yes. I love it.

So we've been throwing a Halloween party for our friends. This will be the 11th year in a row that we've done something. and every other year I will make a murder mystery party for us to do but this year I just moved to a new house and so I think I'm just

going to keep it pretty low key just do a costume party but yeah and then trick or treating with the kids I think me and my daughters are going to dress up as K-pop demon hunters so I'm excited

beautiful and yeah what about you Any good plans? I don't know. The only plan I have is I'm at some point in October, I have to figure out the dates, but my grandma's turning 90. And so I feel like this October has been kind of consumed with trying to plan for her party versus a Halloween situation.

But because she lives in Florida, and I told you I go to Universal, I go every year for Halloween. But since we'll be in Florida, that's the only other place with another universal that does Halloween Horror Night. So I might just do my normal Halloween stuff, but make it Orlando this time. So there you go. Yeah. So I don't know what I'll be dressed. Happy birthday to your grandma too.

My gosh. 90. I know. She'll be the first. Everyone like hold her in your little prayers because she will be the first person in our family, I think, to make it to 90. So we go quick. We, we, you know, so I think we're all very excited. we're like, oh, let's see what happen.

And I don't know how I'm going to be dressed yet, so I don't have an answer for you on that, but K-pop Demon Hunter sounds incredible. Oh, yeah, I can't wait. We're obsessed with that movie. Really? Do you, it's like dances and songs you have to know for it? Oh, well, it's a musical. It's an animated, it's, you know, they say it's for kids.

It's not. It's for any of us. I love it just as much as the kids do. but it's it's really good if you haven't seen it already um it's a k-pop girl group and they are trying to uh eliminate this k-pop demon boy band so it's really good i love so it's also very girl power oh yes a hundred percent amen then well um thank you so much for coming and this is i think this are for the first episode that's coming out for uh invasion of the host snatcher Thank you, Gun, Eva, for this whole concept, well done.

Yes. And make sure you go find Christine, wherever she is in any of those many episodes. We're all going to be flip-flopping around with each other for this. So, yeah, thank you, everyone who is going to be involved in Parraween and doing this with us. And, yeah, thank you for being our first guest host swap host, Snatched. Yay! Thank you for inviting me. I'll be a snatched host anytime.

Of course, we're ending on that. That's it. Happy October, everybody.