And That's Why We Drink - Listener Stories: Vol. 51

Episode Date: January 1, 2021

Welcome to 2021! We're only predicting sandwiches this time around. We decided to scale down our manifesting this year and just focus on food... remember when we learned the history of the word "quarantine" mere weeks before the epidemic hit. Yikes! We're just so glad to be here in the new year with you all and reading your creepy stories. This month Em dubs the theme "poop your pants" scary. We've got an equal split of wild paranormal stories and true crime connections, like the truth behind who spotted Richard Speck's notorious tattoo that led to his capture. We also hear from a listener who was cursed by our listeners episode about curses caused by the podcast. Lastly, we may or may not have discovered that Chrsitine's real dad is a bathroom shadow figure... and that's why we drink! Please consider supporting the companies that support us! Whether you’re looking for peak performance or better health, covering your bases with Athletic Greens makes investing in your energy, immunity and gut health each day simple, tasty and efficient. Simply visit athleticgreens.com/DRINK and join health experts, athletes and health conscious go-getters around the world who make a commitment to their health every day.Stitch Fix offers clothing hand-selected by expert stylists for your unique size, style, and budget. It’s a completely different and fun way to find clothes that you will love to wear. Get started today at StitchFix.com/DRINK and you’ll get 25% off when you keep everything in your Fix!With HelloFresh, you get fresh, pre-measured ingredients and mouthwatering seasonal recipes delivered right to your door. HelloFresh lets you skip those trips to the grocery store, and makes home cooking easy, fun, AND affordable – and that’s why it’s America’s #1 meal kit! Go to HelloFresh.com/drink10 and use code drink10 for 10 free meals, including free shipping!

look at miss christine and her vintage it's almost like a christmas glam because you almost got the red and green happening sort of pink and turquoise but close enough let's call it let's call it a christmas adjacent new year's situation and this is a big deal because today is 2021 yeah like the first day i know a lot of people are hung over right now i think i think a lot of people have been hung over for a long period of time i think so i think it's okay uh they're all kind of coming to and realizing it's not 2019 anymore they're like wait what happened all year they're all kind of it's it's not 2019 it's not 2020 or did i miss the joke you missed the joke that's okay i don't get it that's okay they're uh no 2020 um i'm very

glad you're gone thank you yes me too we don't miss you at all no no no no no no no um i hope everyone has a much better year i already told you you that if you listen to the last episode that came out, I am hoping for a lot of sandwiches this year. That's right. And that's kind of all I'm hoping for. Yeah, we decided to scale down our manifesting and focus on food. I think I'm going to make a, I mean, I don't know how long this will last, probably like twice, and then I'll never do it again.

But it'd be interesting to keep a log of all the sandwiches I ate this year so I might do that you and I probably have a history on Postmates to like check on so okay that's okay yeah we can probably just go back honestly in 2020 you and I probably ate a lot of sandwiches just because you know let's just say uh I should have invested in Postmates is what I should have done because uh i probably spent thousands of dollars last year in post so oh my god um hopefully everyone is doing well uh and uh excited for a new year and fingers crossed for yeah a lot of good things even if we're hung over like we're happy because it's like you know what we're hung over but we're like we're ready to roll ready to move on it's the biggest sigh of relief i think globally we've all had correct yes agreed Yes. Agreed. Well, to start off the new year, we have a hot seven stories for you.

There's a bonus. Yes. And I'm going to read them first this time. You're going to read them? Okay. I'll just sit here. I'll start them first. I'll lay on my fainting couch and be serenaded.

Yes. Yeah. Well, I would like you to just kind of look like you're just barely hanging on for dear life throughout all of this. start them first i'll lay on my fainting couch and be serenaded yes yeah well that's uh i would like you to just kind of look like you're just barely hanging on for dear life throughout that's what i always look like i thought you said it's what you sound like that's for sure oh okay just ask anyone who listens to this podcast they're like oh my god all of us are make the face we're all barely getting through this um you go ahead then okay so this is uh story number one uh also for if for some reason this is your first time ever listening to a listener's episode on the first of every month, we put these out.

And you can submit your own personal stories on the submission form on our website. And that's where we drink. Okay. Dot com. Dot org. Dot edu. Dot gov, I think. Yeah.

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So this is called Haunted Christmas Tree. Ooh. And it is from Michaela who goes by SheHer. Thank you for normalizing pronouns, Michaela. Michaela says, hello, Emothy, Christopoulos, and Evitha. I am 20, I'm 24 years old and have been listening to y'all since the beginning of dawn. Oh, wow. Oh, okay. That makes us super old. I just feel like like my skin is turning to dust as we speak. What did you call me that one time when I turned like 28? You called

me? Probably the go to I is usually Crypt Keeper. Yeah, you called me the Crypt Keeper like 85 times in a row. And that was like 85 years ago. So imagine what I'd call you today. I don't want to know. Just a pile, a pile of ash, I suppose. Okay, so I've been listening to you since apparently the dawn of time. Yikes. And good lord, it's been a wild fucking ride. That we can confirm. Ain't that the truth? I sucked my mom into your show and she's binged it up to the early 100s now. Wow. Hi, mom. So more than halfway through.

It feels so good to have someone else to gush about your show with. Anyways, I know how much y'all love a good spook. So one might say this is filled with concentrated entertainment. Oh, tall order. you're really you're really promising something here okay uh so get fucking ready it all began when i was about seven on the floor wrapping gifts for my mom's party and just minding my own business first of all a seven-year-old wrapping presents is a skill i as a seven-year-old did not have oh that was my job i had to bartend at my stepmother's house at Christmas parties and wrap the presents.

I couldn't wrap the presents, but I definitely did walk around and offer people food and then hope they'd say no so I could eat it. I was like, I've never seen you give away food. It was early. I hadn't really learned my own power yet. All of a sudden, I see a tall, thin thin solid black figure lean out of the bathroom doorway i always imagined him looking like abe lincoln uh just as i looked up he popped back into the bathroom my stomach sank and i immediately turned around to my mom sitting on the couch behind me

and said mom you're probably not going to believe me but i just saw a man come out of the bathroom this woman casually and i mean casually replied oh yeah i've seen him too mom that sounds like renata wait a minute it does sound like it did you write this she would say she would say yeah i saw him but i saw him eight more times than you did he would she'd be like oh yeah i know him he like his head fell off one time i watched the whole thing he's in love with me and he's actually your real dad. Anyway, keep wrapping gifts. He's actually your father.

Your last name is Lincoln and you're not even German. Boy, are you honest. Dear God, I hope she doesn't listen to this by some miracle that she actually turns the show on. Because then she's going to tell you that Honest Abe literally is your father. Okay. Yeah, I don't want to know the truth. Your father is from the 1800s.'s why i'm the fucking crypt keeper okay so mckayla says i was dumbfounded perplexed and kind of angry that she just brushed it off

and a few years uh a few years go by with feelings of being watched unexplained noises me waking up with scratches and figures of my mom's nativity set being knocked over oh no oh no and the occasional growling great m don't even ask me why we didn't leave because trust me i wanted to okay noted as a child you only carry so much leverage in convincing your whole family to get up and move uh until you're our children and then you just suggest it that's true like off the cuff say like maybe we should move and i'm like that was a sign sign oh no anywho onward to the juicy bits like that was not juicy okay i can't remember how old i was but one year my mom bought me a three foot christmas tree to put in my room my sister and i shared a room uh-huh so i placed it on top of a bedside dresser that was in between our beds

i decorated it with a cute little with cute little plastic ornaments, silver and gold tinsel, and topped it with a golden star. Precious. That night when I was going to sleep, I was facing the tree that was maybe a foot and a half from my face. In the pitch black silent room, I heard the ornaments start to shake as if someone had moved a branch. Okay. This is when I pretend it's a cat whether or not it was moonshine i was about to say the number of ornaments he's shattered in the last 48 hours oh christ right after i hear this the sound of a little girl giggling breaks the silence goodbye mind you my

sister is older than me i'm the youngest and my cat's meow does not sound like a little ghost child's laugh okay good to know i was frozen in fear and trying to process what just happened but of course i just roll over to face the wall and drift off to sleep i know i spoke to my mom about it and i can't remember what she said but i guarantee she just shrugged it off yes that checks out with renata at least a few years later my sister's friend uh engaged in a ouija board uh at another person's house and asked about the history of our house. So she somehow found out that two children were poisoned on the property and an old man had died there. Oh my God.

That old man is not a friendly ghost and is probably the one to have scratched me and growls. So likely a demon. But it explains the little girl giggling and makes me wonder if she loved Christmas so much that she just wanted to touch the christmas tree or maybe she was just fucking with me okay uh who knows i've got a plethora of stories i could go on and on about including one with a seance but i'll write in another time seriously and sincerely thank you for all the laughs tears and creepy stories they keep me on my toes every week and you are all incredible humans live laugh lemon okay well didn't have to wait i'm stuck on something yeah tears of laughter of joy oh what have we done i'm imagining the tears are from when we're just like so immensely cute and give each other

presents mentally cute is that the phrase you just use when we're so that's one way to put it did i say mentally cute? You know what? I'm pretty sure. I could have like definitely just heard it that way, which is also telling. Hmm. I don't know what I said, if we're going to be totally honest. I don't think any of us know what we said at any point.

I mean, we started this with a joke that did not land on my half. So it's fine. It's like, no matter what I say, it's just going to be a mess. I'm hungover. I'm sorry. It's the first of the year. So yeah, we, well, to be fair, we can't blame 20.

Well, actually, we're still in 2020. So we're going to continue to blame 2020. We're recording this before the new year. I'm sure the day that the, at midnight 1201, when the bell tolls, Em and I will suddenly be reborn into perfect creatures. all of a sudden

we'll speak like perfect like old english and like oh it'll be beautiful everything will sound like a limerick and it'll be just just peachy all the time oh how fun and also we'll be like mentally cute and you'll cry or something i don't know i really don't know what i said we'll have to go back and listen to that later it's probably not what I said so I apologize in advance well I think I think the tears came from any time that you and I have been cute together and like done something sweet for each other so I'm glad you think that because I'm assuming we did something to you know make others cry but that's just my go-to maybe maybe the tears are from uh the escape room which by the way I did um on my secret tiktok account i do regularly check uh when atwbd is hashtagged something on tiktok and someone recently uh did a tiktok about the escape room and how like

awful it was sorry sorry um m you know it's a fun fact everybody m does not like give me their tiktok or follow me on tiktok even though m knows my tiktok and has told me they have a tiktok and yet somehow avoids me on there which i also to be fair apparently like don't have you on close friends on instagram i just don't fucking trust anything off your close friends i don't know if you blocked me listen m and i are gonna figure this out in the new year i guess we'll figure yeah next year next year for now i am just going to keep me at arm's length which you know i don't blame you that's part of the tears category i think actually it's my tears certainly yes okay um this uh speaking of tears is from linda uh who uses she her pronouns the subject is

cursed by listening to others curses oh see i was afraid this would happen that we would create kind of like a rings of hell situation where i guess yeah i was gonna say what a loop that like we asked for curses then those curses cursed others and now there's okay i'm now understanding the tears part okay linda says dear eva and co thank you it's probably correct. Yeah. As the subject says, I had to contact you because I think I was cursed by the recent listener stories episode. Congrats on the 50th. I imagine that has some sarcasm. It didn't feel good entirely.

Oh my gosh. I listened to the 50th listener stories for a second time last night because I was missing you two and you both are always a welcome sound in my ears. I was freaking out and thankful as I had never been cursed by your podcast until last night. I was exhausted and feeling low, so I went to bed early. I was plagued by nightmares where I was locked in an airport and the room slowly filled up with water. Okay. Woof. Oh, no.

I'm sweating. That's one of my nightmares. That's awful. I remember clinging to the wall because i knew if i let go i would drown as i was holding on for dear life a child came up to me and smiled wide no hang on okay you don't have to smile or exist um i don't like alive dead in between i just read as i'm reading this i just remembered a dream i had last night uh and i'm getting goose

cam. So let me tell you it after. I'm sorry. Was the child smiling wide? It was something smiling wide. Okay. I'll tell you this minute. It's horrible.

I can't believe I just remembered that. I woke up in the middle of the night and like grab blazed and was like, help. I was very scared. Okay. Hang on. Sorry. This is not about me. Okay.

As I was holding on for dear life, a child came up to me and smiled wide. The child was a little girl with long blonde hair and an eerily perfect smile. She waded too easily through the deepening water that should have been over her head by then. I screamed at her to hold on to something because I feared the water would pull her away and she would drown in this room with me. Good night. I want you to let go was all she said see ya i'm so scared i have goose cam oh my god okay if she's smiling and saying let go i know i would let go of her hand and i'd say goodbye okay sayonara oh my god i'm home alone again why do we always do this when i'm home alone okay

i want you to let go was all she said while still smiling and she pulled out a knife oh my god and stabbed me in the back of the leg the pain caused me to let go and i was pulled under the water while i struggled to reach the surface i could see her face blurry from the water above me and her eyes were black i woke up gasping for, literally gasping for air and feeling nauseous. Something was not right in my house. I staggered out of my bed because I could smell propane. Oh, good night. Oh, fuck.

I turned on all the lights and searched the house, opening windows along the way to get some fresh air. Then I found the source. There is a tiny latched... Okay, this is your first mistake, Linda. There is a tiny latched. Okay. This is your first mistake, Linda. There is a tiny latched door in the back of my closet. And you walked briskly away, correct? Where M says, why didn't you move out? I'm saying, why did you move in at all?

Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. It sounds like a very Christine move to pull. I found this little door out in a state sale. M, I'm sure there's something in it. i'm gonna go inside while while no one's home it's a little girl with a match lit as you smell propane that's what it is i'm terrified em okay then i found the source there

is a tiny latch door in the back of my closet and this door is hard to open it takes me a good minute to wrestle with the latch my shoes in front of it were undisturbed still lined up correctly Good night. Are you okay? I got nothing good to say. I got nothing to say. Hmm. First of all, hmm. Okay, I guess I'll read the end.

I have a sick feeling that either a black-eyed child or a haunted doll opened that door while I slept and wanted me to die. Is it a coincidence that I happened to listen to others' plights regarding the trouble you have caused? It is anyone's guess. Love you both and will still lovingly listen linda the fact if you genuinely think that we cursed you and your

next thought is i'm gonna keep listening um linda you got some bigger fish to fry run away from us oh no um wait that is i mean that's honestly one of the scarier ones i think we've ever read if not the scariest because it's like a real life terror mixed with nightmare. It's like whatever, if something was there and it wanted to scare you, it chose some real properly based fear. Yeah. Hmm. Like that's extremely, extremely dangerous, A. B, how does that even happen?

And that the door was open even though your shoes were lined up properly in front of it also like really picked like three of the worst ways to go of like drowning stabbing and fire like oh i didn't even think of that yeah holy crap that's even worse and i didn't even think of that because you i would argue that one of those three are definitely the worst ways to go yeah i i, I would not argue with you on that. I mean, they're all bad ways to go. Okay, that was really scary, Emma. I'm going to, like, not – oh, I guess I'll tell you.

My dream's not even remotely as scary. But last night I had this dream that Blaze and I, like, found this doll. Okay, now I'm just, like, wondering what the hell's going on. I had this dream that I found this doll, and it was this, like – it looked like an Egyptian sphinx, sort of. And Blaze was, like, freaking out. And he – doll and it was just like it looked like an egyptian sphinx sort of and um blaze was like freaking out and he oh it's so weird and he kept freaking out i was like what what's the big deal we just got to throw it away like because we knew something was wrong with it and then he said um it's not where it's supposed to be and i said what do you mean it's not where it's supposed to be and he said because i used to be in it and then i woke up and i was like

and then i woke up but i was too scared to open my eyes because i was convinced i was like a kid i was like convinced that if i opened my eyes there would be like something standing there oh yeah it took me i counted to like 100 and then i eventually like turned over with my eyes closed and i was and then i like grabbed blaze's arm but then i was like oh my god but in my dream blaze like was the demon. So then I got all in my head. So you could have opened your eyes and rolled over and seen a human sized Egyptian Sphinx doll lying next to you. It was like a weird Sphinx.

And he was like, because I was in it and I was like, goodbye. Anyway. So that's what it reminded me of. Cause it was smiling in the. Okay. Yikes.

Usually if I have bad dreams, it's about like murderers, not like demons. so this one was very uh uneasy for me i had some really interesting nightmares last night but they weren't they were surprisingly for the first time ever like just like a nightmare where like i kind of woke up and i was like oh that's just a nightmare instead of it being like oh there's a demonic force in my room like i'm gonna die like this like it was like i made up uh in my dream i i made up a marvel movie that was like that doesn't exist but it was like really fucking scary it was like a marvel horror movie

and then i woke up and thought that would have been a scary movie and then i went back to sleep that sounds like a good dream it was it was kind of disturbing um but it wasn't like it was finally not paranormal which is what 99 of my nightmares I know. I feel like we like switched places. Yeah. Anyway, apparently Blaze was in a doll as a demon in Egypt. So, you know. And also, you know what? Past lives and your weird attachment to Egypt, it makes me think like that there could be something there. Anyway, here's story number three.

This is called I Picked the Wrong House for the Bachelorette Party. Oh, so did M, Zach Bagans Museum. You know what? I picked the exact right house. I know. You're right. Who am I kidding? It came with a 12-page NDA and a life insurance liability form.

And I bought an autographed poster so I could just go right to hell. Yeah, the house I picked. Also, I'm lighting a candle. Sorry. The house I picked for your bachelorette party literally had PTD in it. That's okay. You know what? You're right.

I win this argument. Okay, so this is from Lakota, who uses she, her pronouns. So thank you for normalizing pronouns. That's a pretty name. Lakota. Yeah, I was afraid. It's like Dakota, but with an L. Yeah, that's a very nice name.

Okay, I picked the wrong house for the bachelorette party hello christine m eva xenon i think this is xenon's first shout out i think so too girl zz she's like hey she knows it she's x she's xx uh umlaut umlaut yeah she uh just flying above she knows she her ears are ringing uh-huh her big hoops are ringing they're like satellite dishes xenon lemon and most importantly geo junior moonshine um i've been wanting to send this story in for what seems like forever but alas i am lazy and i don't want to waste any more time so let's crack into it in october of 2018 i was tasked with planning my best girl brit's bachelorette party uh she was on uh she was set on savannah georgia due to her love of all things spooky and stuck uh and stuck in time so i'm i'm down with that that makes a lot of

i love savannah i feel like savannah georgia i'm sure people from these two places are gonna like clash on twitter or something but savannah georgia and charleston south carolina have the same level of like timelessness and his old school but like historical ghosty vibes they yeah to me they feel the same um but yeah okay great great location i too am a lover of all things dark and haunted so i was stoked to get this party planned with the help of some lovely friends i finally picked an airbnb for the weekend not too far from downtown large enough for all eight of us seemed perfect right incorrect oh my gosh okay half of us arrived in savannah a few hours early

to decorate and set it up side note ya girl ya girl had a surprise Game of Thrones feast planned and it was the shit. That sounds dope. That sounds really cool. Oh my god, how cool. All you had to say was feast. Like, okay, Christine, bachelor party? Okay, feast. The amount of wine that I see on Game of Thrones, I always ended up just like craving wine and like, I don't know.

I would like my theme to be feast actually. So just remember that. As we just described, I walked around with trays of booze for my parents' friends and you walked around with trays of food. So I think this is pretty fitting. Honestly, I would like my party to just be like me sitting on a throne and every person I know and love just offers a different platter of my favorite food. Okay, Eva, I need you to actually write that down because m's not kidding i'm saying i'm not kidding i would like but like it's not a joke everyone can pick which food it is that they're serving me but i would like at least one steak

one fried chicken one mac and cheese i mean we'll talk i know i know that part but eva write down this idea because it's pretty good actually it's actually it's delightful it's actually delightful okay so thank you you might have actually uh just changed the way that my my party goes um okay feast where is that word okay here we are um when i first stepped in i was in love though it had been beautifully renovated the house was very old and still had the original architecture intact it was perfect and i decided that the bride-to-be and i should uh would share the master bedroom for obvious reasons. So I went upstairs to get our stuff set up. We were lovers. Just kidding.

I wanted to spice up the story. I know. I wish the drama were there for the sake of this story only, for obvious, obvious reasons. I know. I'm like, obvious reasons, wink, wink. I get you're best friends, but maybe you're also the other bride? I mean, it's Game ofones like you never know what's

going on with these you know what lakota you walked right into this that's what happened so for from the second i walked into the room i knew i was very much not alone great this is the master bedroom um i'm pretty sensitive to this kind of stuff so it wasn't anything new but i was still on edge because i had to sleep there all weekend. That's, first of all, the bride-to-be isn't there yet. You can leave. You can be like, bride-to-be, this is your room.

Have fun. That's a good point. I know we're lovers, but you can have the truth to yourself. Christine, I know we're best friends slash obviously obvious, for obvious reasons, lovers. But I think you need to have alone time.

Before the feast. I'm going to be at the feast. And you be at the feast. I was going to be at the feast. Actually, when we did stay in a haunted airbnb you went to the cryptid museum and left me alone in our haunted ass that is i did do that by the way you did certainly do that and that was in the year 2020 so i'm lumping it into all the horrors of this year also there were uh two people who were coming to our live show the next day that were also on that tour uh oh really at the museum with me i don't think i knew that they were like wow we really lucked out like this

was the exact time to come to this exact location also we'll see you on tour tomorrow super hard to find out where m is at any given time in any city it's like like just or like cryptid or swamp alligators you could find them just to let let you know, I usually base my, I'm really giving myself away here, but, like, I really do plan my entire trip 99% around Atlas Obscura. It's true. And I usually come in at least a day early, if I can, to every city,

so I can, like, spend the night exploring. So, like, it's not hard to find me. And even I arrive and, like, go to the hotel bar, Em arrives early and, like, goes on 6 a.m. tours. It's the wildest shit. I think our entire tour, I did come in at least a night early, at least for most of the shows. I came in a night earlier before you and Eva, yeah.

Just so I could do all the weird shit before I had to like go on stage. So anyway, that's how you can find me. It's not hard. I decided I was just overwhelmed and letting the house get the better of me and brushed it off that is until brit got there brit is bride to be uh she walked up to our temporary room and i heard her laugh out loud and exclaim oh okay uh i walked upstairs to ask her about it and she said she felt it too okay that's exactly a christine move though that is extremely so you would walk up and be like oh never mind got it well that is what happened

because i showed up and realized em had left like the creepiest fucking room to either me or eva and so i literally went oh okay and you were like i got here first it's like your problem so guess what we did we put eva in it oops don't tell them our secrets. Eva, I, again, we haven't said this in a while, but the day you decide to quit, we will say only one sentence and it will be, we understand. We will applaud. We'll be like, you really suck it out a lot longer than we thought. Okay. The whole day went by without too much happening, save for that oppressive energy in our room.

Luckily, that night we drank enough to pass out and sleep uneventfully. No issues. Great. Smart. in our room luckily uh that night we drank enough to pass out and sleep uneventfully no issues great smart the following evening we took it easy as we had a big day slash night planned for saturday and we both went to bed and had considerable difficulty falling asleep mainly because it felt like someone was sitting in the corner staring at us ah great after i finally drifted off i was pulled out of sleep by brit shaking me awake if you shook me awake i wouldn't even wait around to ask what happened no i would just be like you would be i'd be like my shoes are on what where how fast are we running yep uh she was super distraught smack in the middle of a panic

attack she said that she had woken up out of nowhere with her heart racing and feeling terrible and scared i sat up for a bit uh trying to calm her down we turned on the tv and watched some x files okay not helpful i don't think um also a christine move like let me just turn on let me put on sinister while i calm you down from your panic attack uh i finally fell back asleep only to have one of the strangest dreams i've ever had in my dream there was an egyptian sphinx i'm just kidding i'm just kidding oh my god that is not funny i literally stopped breathing my watch is about to yell at me again em and i'm over it holy cannoli in my dream i was in the same bed i was sleeping in brit's back was to me and she was

sleeping on her side i nudged her shoulder to wake her up because i was scared and she rolled over to face me only it wasn't her good night we've had a few of these we've had a few people write in about dreams like this where the person sleeping next to you is actually not that person it's always bad it was an old woman yep that's what i was afraid of that's what i was afraid of the woman sat up and just stared at me okay so she sat up okay so she knows you're awake and can see you it's the worst part of it it. She's like, it's about time. Yeah. Yikes. Okay. I was immediately terrified and in my dream ran down the hall to the room where two of our friends were sleeping.

I opened the door to find that the whole room had changed, different furniture, etc. And there was an old man with a walker sitting by the window. He looked at me confused and said, why are you here? You aren't supposed to be here. Chills. Okay okay you know what fuck that i was scared down to my core frozen to the spot in my dream i was woken up then by brit who said i was crying and moaning in my sleep thank god that your friend was a light enough sleeper honestly maybe i do want to you to be in the room i won't abandon you for obvious reasons for obvious reasons i get it now

i get it now everybody buddy system that's where we that's what we were missing before oh you and i just went straight to like fucking hbo drama okay we sat there together unable to sleep just kind of holding each other okay baby we're up wait a minute we spoke too soon as usual holding each other for what seemed like forever and then we heard it footsteps on the fucking staircase ah sorry that was so loud into the microphone twists and turns lakota this story is such a roller coaster uh i would have told myself i was imagining it but before i had even mentioned it she said did you hear the footsteps on those stairs nope goose cam uh what's even stranger is that they sounded like they

started in the middle of the staircase not the bottom fuck i hate this uh so it couldn't be any of our friends we very clearly heard the steps ascend the stairs and then we heard a board creak directly outside our fucking door now i do not scare easily and let me just admit i was terrified mortified scared yes well that makes total sense we sat there together until the sun came up and then i finally got angry and threw the bedroom door open nothing no one uh we bolted downstairs and laid on the couch in the living room somehow we managed a fantastic bachelorette evening that night on our two hours of sleep and that night we switched rooms with our two friends that aren't as sensitive to that stuff and with the assistance with the assistance of more alcohol set slept soundly that evening the oppressive energy never left that hole upstairs though you

better believe i left a lengthy review on airbnb and we left that day and coincidentally got introduced to your podcast on the drive back our friend way it was us actually we were trying to type we were tapping into your psyche saying listen to me we were like hey you guys should make out because you're lovers right and also their feast because we came for food also i came i came for the feast christine came for hbo and also like uh and wine mead if you will for for the mead yes also what are you doing here you're not supposed to be here you're supposed to be in the car listening to our podcast sorry you saw me you caught me with my walker my knees are i'm the crypt keeper and my knees are really bad

uh our friend ashley showed us one of your early shows in the rest is history thanks for listening to the story can't wait for uh until the world is back to normal and i can maybe see you live again in nashville oh well i'm sure we'll be in nashville one day and then hang in there 2020 is almost over well by the time we're reading this lakota 2020 is over you did it lakota you made it uh hashtag team wine ps one more thing i know you guys have issues questions problems with disembodied body parts weirdly enough my job requires me to have great prowess in this area. So basically, if you have any questions about human body dismemberment, I've got you.

And yes, it's legal. Maybe I'll write about that in the future. Maybe you should. That was literally my next question. Is this something we're allowed to discuss on air? When people say like, oh, here's something really fucked up. Maybe I'll write you.

It's like, what a tease. Just write it. They know what they're doing. They know what they're doing they know what they're doing anyway lakota that was that's fucking bananas all of these are really scary i don't know like what's going on eva was like there's no theme and it's like apparently the theme was pooping my pants eva and like terrifying dreams also yeah this is freaking me out i honestly it makes me wonder if there's like a time slip where it's like the old lady was in bed and she maybe saw you in her lifetime and was like who's in my bed and then the old man was like what are you doing here the thought the thought of like it being like uh the other situation where both of you are seeing each other in different lifetimes or

different times like you like your astral projection you you've both crossed over into each other's worlds uh-uh no no no yeah see that freaks because then you wonder like oh are they seeing you in some other you know like are you their ghost or yeah or is it the like you know i guess the more standard theory of like they're dead and they they can tell you're alive and you shouldn't be able to see them you know it's like yeah or that yeah yeah they're both awful like they're both like just equally as bad as each other somehow the fact that they're also shocked to see you is what makes it extra startling because usually you think like oh ghosts are here because they want you to see them but like when clearly they're asking you like what is going on you know geo gets it he gets it

earlier today he was barking like crazy and i went to the side door and i looked out and there were Clearly, they're asking you, like, what is going on? You know, Gio gets it. He gets it. Earlier today, he was barking like crazy. And I went to the side door and I looked out and there were like, I'm not even joking with you, maybe 30 to 40. Like, I would say like 65 year old men in like velour tracksuits. What? And they were walking down the street in a line. And I was like, yeah, I would be barking too. And I couldn't figure out like, I literally just stared at them. I'd be hiding.

What is happening? I was freaked out. I locked my door my door i was like i don't know what's going on and i like live in a pretty quiet neighborhood so i'm like staring and then like five minutes later this massive tour bus drives down the street like like huge double decker situation where i was like how does it even fit on my street i do not know what was going on but what how many all in these like six suits 60 year old men or 60 men they were like 60 to 70 and they were probably like 30 to 40 of them but that's wild it was so weird I can't even give you a situation where it's like oh maybe it was this yeah I was trying to figure it out I was like it's not like unless it's some maybe oh maybe it's like a bowling team or something I'm trying to think of what sporting

event it would be like it's not professional basketball like they were in velour tracks tracksuits because then it sounds like it could be like like like a senior gay pride or something okay some of them were velour but a lot of them had like designer sneakers like it was it was senior gay pride i have a hunch i know it was kentucky i guess in kentucky welcome to kentucky in december that does not check out but it's all i've got so okay that's the other thing is it was like 25 degrees out and they like were not wearing i mean they're wearing like track suits but not like coats or hats or anything i don't know it was really weird like a gay christmas it's got to be gay if it's all velour and designer shoes i know what I'm gonna google it and I'm convinced that it's like some sort of like bowling league that takes itself really

seriously and was like we're gonna get out our like nicest sneaker I don't know the fact that like three or four dozen senior men can all get matching outfits and like do like a little they weren't matching that's the other thing none of them were matching they were all that's the weird part is they were all different outfits and shoes and i was like they're all tracksuits if they were team they would all buy the same thing yeah you're probably right well you know what it's a club it's like a running club or something well they're definitely not running well i mean it was like maybe like a senior like power walking club maybe they weren't walking very fast though i gotta say they were 70 70. Okay, okay, fair.

But I will say I live right across the river from the casino. Like maybe they were like going to the casino with her. The tour bus. That's the only thing I can think of. Like, why would there be a tour bus? I don't fucking know. My mom, she said, I don't know why this reminds me of my mother, but she told me that one time in college, she was, I think it was birth control. It was some sort of birth control, but she told me that one time in college she was,

I think it was birth control. It was some sort of birth control, but I think it was just like the pill or condoms or something. But when she was in college, she and her friend were like, I don't know, like maybe we should go get some like birth control or something. And I guess like people weren't really openly talking about that stuff yet and or at least in her circle and so they decided that they were going to do it and they hyped themselves up and they're like we're gonna go get birth control we're gonna go do it and as they were like traipsing to the parking lot the other people were just kind of like popping up out of nowhere being like where are you guys going and they'd be like we're getting birth control and then slowly just became a crowd

of like really excited college girls that were like all like a little power squad being like birth control and like by the time they all went to go like set up appointments or something there was like a little pack of them and it just reminded me of like a like a gaggle of girls just all like kind of popping up out of nowhere what's that tv show that musical tv show it's it's the way she describes it sounds like it was a bit in a musical like that was just like it started with two people and it slowly grew with exciting crazy ex-girlfriend it sounds like it was a bit in a musical like that was just like it started with two people and it slowly grew with exciting crazy ex-girlfriend it sounds like where they're all like meeting up like in song yeah that's what it felt like and now i'm imagining it's just like that except a bunch of old men being like we're gonna go bowling and everyone just shows up in

their own track suit i'm like trying to google it it's like not working what a shock uh i'm gonna google it later because i'm like really oh you know what also like horse racing down here maybe horse i can promise you there are no 70 year old jockeys and only track suits that are not jockeys but betting not like betting riding horses but betting on the track oh betting i thought you said bettingding. I was like, I think they don't. I don't think horses are beds. BrooklynLady.com. No, maybe like it's the horse track. Okay, I don't know. That could be it.

That's not a bad idea. I feel like that or the casino is the only thing that makes sense why they're all glammed out. If you happen to be in the Kentucky, Ohio area and you have a grandfather with a tracksuit, ask them what the fuck was going on that day. And tell them i love those one person had these like neon yellow sneaks and i was like whoa those are those are cool and i'll ask how they also got a tour bus to like accompany them and how did it fit down my street because the moving truck told me they couldn't fit so i don't know how they got their double decker bus but okay anyway sorry everybody uh i guess i should read um story number four yes Yes. The next story. This is called My Family Secret Was Made Into a Movie.

Oh, my gosh. Goodbye. I'm so excited. This is Em's and my HBO dream. Okay. This is it. This is from Abby. She, her pronouns. Thank you, Abby.

Not only am I a lover of all things true crime, but with that love comes my deep-seated curiosity. In other words, I'm nosy as hell. This sounds like a chapter book like a book a diary entry novel yeah i don't know uh i've been nosy i'm nosy as hell and have been my entire life yep growing up i picked up on a certain topic that would result in a look shot across the room from grandma we call her hammer i hope i'm saying that right this is the look that halted any further discussion finally i had reached the age that my grandmother finally deemed i was old enough to be let into the secret oh my god

during one of my weekly phone calls while i was in college hammer spilled the beans the secret her cousin gary paul carr was involved in the kidnapping andama spilled the beans. The secret, her cousin, Gary Paul Carr, was involved in the kidnapping and murder of the most hated woman in America, Madeline Murray O'Hare, her son, John Garth Murray, and her granddaughter, Robin Murray O'Hare. Oh my gosh. That's a lot. Madeline Murray. Okay. Okay. Okay. Very Irish family, I think.

I don't know any of these people yet, but i'm excited to go watch the movie tonight seriously madeline murray o'hare was an activist best known for being an atheist and publishing the complete division of church and state nope publishing pushing i was like damn that is a powerful woman wow i thought it was a book i I was like, wow. Wow. Okay. Sorry. Being an atheist and pushing the complete division of church and state. In 1995, O'Hare, her son, and her granddaughter disappeared from Austin, Texas. All that was left behind was dinner on the table. Oh, my God. And a note on the door stating, the Murray O'Hare family has been called out of town on an emergency basis. Oh, shit.

We do not know how long we will be gone at the time of the writing of this memo oh my god ultimately the investigation honed in on david roland waters who was a former employee and ex-felon both he and car were arrested and imprisoned the only other person involved in committing the crime was danny fry who was murdered by waters and car i'll leave my telling of the story brief but sorry brief as all my knowledge of the situation has been gathered from my own research and the movie adaptation of the story that was released in 2017 my grandma divulged no additional information as this is still a topic she doesn't like to discuss i'm unsure of how close a relationship the cousins

had growing up but i'm assuming it has to be strange knowing their intertwined childhoods resulted in very different outcomes my great aunt gary's mother has been a figure at family gatherings my entire life she is in her mid-90s at this point and lives in a small cabin on a lake with her other son she recently survived a stroke and is a hearty midwestern lady that my family is all convinced may outlive us all wow flash forward a couple years and i bring my boyfriend up north what us in wisconsin believe is a vacation in the summer to spend the fourth of july also my grandma's birthday with my family this is the first time they're all meeting him and by the second night of knowing him my family tells him i waited 20 years to be

privy to this information which he obtained in less than 48 hours i was salty to say the least thank you for being the voices that fill my home so i'm not lonely and being vulnerable enough to share your highs and lows love you both and eva so much and all that you do yours truly abby she her p.s i brought my best friend also a lover of true crime to the milwaukee show and it was the greatest friend day ever i can't wait for the day you can come back oh so sweet what yeah what what what so her cousin was a kid kidnapped and murdered oh my god an activist and her son and her granddaughter holy shit that's horrifying it's wild because like i mean like no neither of us get to be surprised anymore. But it is wild when you think like there is like a murderer does have family.

Like someone out there is related to the dark stuff we talk about. And it's like crazy. And like coworkers and like acquaintances and people you just don't think about. Or like, oh my my god how creepy is that also that is also the most renata thing of like my boyfriend shows up and all of a sudden he learns all these family secrets i'm like yeah that's like the time again with the ray-ban ad when my mother told me this at my 13th birthday party and i was like mortified sometimes i wonder how she landed tim and how he didn't just like escape like just like he was like this is too

much and just flee like yeah she does a really good job of spreading out i think that's the thing the dark the dark facts because i think he probably found out after he said i do and it was too late yeah exactly he was like oh oh okay listen it was too late for me too so i get it don't worry there was never escape for you there He had a chance. We're all in it together. All right. So this is number five. This is called

My Aunt Caught a Mass Murderer. Holy shit. This is a lot of like powerful women. Intense. Yeah. Crime and ghost.

Jeez. This is from Irene who uses she, her pronouns. Thank you for normalizing pronouns, Irene. I like that name. I do too. It makes me think I know this isn't the same name but it makes me think of eileen and then i think of the song

come on i know no no no no no don't get that stuck in my head please okay i just kidding come on irene okay come on irene okay so here we go i was watching some tiktoks tonight because of course and i came across i like how there's no high or anything it's just like that's what this one was too i was watching tiktoks or i think maybe it got might have gotten cut off or something i love how this one was like not only my deep sea of curiosity and that one's like i was watching tiktok one night it's like i'm nosy let's start there yeah okay i was watching tiktoks uh because of course and i came across someone telling me the story of richard speck i don't think you have covered him before but it's one of the worst crimes in chicago Okay, I was watching TikToks because, of course, and I came across someone telling me the story of Richard Speck. I don't think you have covered him before, but it's one of the worst crimes in Chicago history.

All right, Christine, write that down. Wait, I thought I did cover, maybe I didn't. The name sounds familiar. Richard Speck. He's very famous. I feel like you would have covered that, like, at a Chicago show, maybe. I don't think so, because I feel like that's too big of a story. We'll check later.

But anyway, okay. i don't think so because i feel like that's too big of a we'll check story but anyway okay long story short in 1966 he killed eight nursing students one by one in their home only one woman survived because she hid under a bed and after his murder yes oh so you did cover this no i don't wait maybe where did you wait where did you put the list of episodes i can't find it listen it's almost i was like i'm listening no no it's on the listen tab hang on no i didn't i must not have covered it i don't know why i thought that hmm but i know the story really well maybe that's maybe that's what i was saying did you do it at like um at the chicago show when we could it could be no because i did chicago tylenol murders i don't know whatever i think maybe i just heard it on my favorite murder and assume I covered it

too okay well TBD we we anywho okay so uh only one woman survived because she hid under the bed and after his murder Speck was on the run and then tried to kill himself but then changed his mind and went to the county hospital where he checked in under a different name no one at the hospital knew it was him until someone spotted the born to raise hell tattoo on his arm the story goes that a young first year doctor spotted the tattoo and told the nurse on duty kathy o'connor uh uh-huh uh-huh and i'm not good okay kathy o'connor to uh i told the nurse on duty kathy o'connor to call the police while he took credit for saving the day. Well, classic.

Well, um, however, my aunt is nurse Kathy. And she was a very, she has a very different story to tell. Uh, she was the one who spotted the tattoo first and alerted the doctor to it. Now my aunt is for,

uh, okay. I love the sentence. Now my aunt is for lack of a better term a bitch but a badass bitch okay but also a bitch is literally the sentence here noted uh i i loved getting to say that a million times that was fun okay too damn i'm jealous she was also 23 and had heard about the eight uh the eight women her age in her profession that were murdered in cold blood that checks out like you would be alert and aware that like people like you are

dying around you uh-huh um yeah okay so this isn't reported but she said some pretty horrible things to him that made him cry while she waited for the police uh she has made me cry on many occasions for for doing things not even close to what he did. So I cannot imagine how badly she treated him. Anyway, he deserved it. You know what? Sometimes you need to know just like one cold hearted woman to just say the things we're all thinking. There's a time and a place for the cold hearted bitch in everyone's life.

And Nurse Kathy was like, this is my fucking moment. Here we go. Her name is Nurse Kathy. That's like the least suspecting name of all time uh also i'd like to think if she's that mean of a person she also had a few choice words for the dude that took the credit that's what i thought we were going with but this is even better like i thought we were going with the doctor but wow she she called out richard speck holy shit she also deserves some of the honor for helping to catch him she's retired from nursing now but

spent her whole life dealing with cocky doctors, always taking credit from her. So I just wanted to give a little shout out and set the story straight. Anywho, love the podcast and all of you. I have a bunch of ghost stories I'll write about later, but wanted this one to stand alone. Oh, and Christine, I went to American. Hey, what?

Really? Yay for other famous alumni because Judge Judy, besides Judge Judy and Michael Cohen. Yes. And who? Oh, yes, yes, yes. I thought you said Jimmy Fallon. I was like, oh, I got to add that to the list. No, I always tell people Judge Judy won two American. Nobody really cares except me.

You know what's interesting is like two people I admired the most as a child, which is like says a lot about my childhood. And Judge Judy? No, Judge Judy and Jerry Springer. You have something to say about both of them. I have something to say about a lot of people. But yes, I do have something to say about those two. You're right. But it also says something.

They're both connection to me. It says something about my upbringing that like they were my idols growing up. I was like, wow, my favorite daytime programming. I mean, Em, it's literally my favorite fact that I'm connected to both of them. So clearly you and I are not far off in like our admiration for these people i should have known the second you threw that like fun fact to me the first time i was like this is this is a friendship meant to be yeah we have we have something in common anyway thank you irene um i i hope nurse kathy knows that uh that we appreciate what she's done but also maybe don't let her listen to this episode because we did call her a bitch so okay we said the scent i said you said it but she's gonna know what you think of her kathy i'm

scared you're gonna have to put my iv in someday and i'm not gonna say a word about you nurse kathy if you ever ask if i was a podcaster i'm gonna say no ma'am no no no no no didn't never not a once ma'am anyway um i definitely have heard that on my favorite murder that's probably why i thought i had covered it got it okay uh cool cool cool cool cool all right where am i now okay oh we didn't also get the name of the movie that that other person's that um abby's family was in i want to know the name of the movie that's what i thought was going to happen too yeah oh well okay let's see this is called okay this is from mj she her thank you mj and it is called the one where i accidentally gave a convicted killer a ride the canadian edition sounds canadian that you would accidentally give a yes it does i am from a city called moncton new brunswick canada while moncton does have its

dark history i'd highly encourage looking up the stories of the monster of miramichi and the most recent rcmp shootings it was and still is a fairly safe place to grow up it's a type of city that friends show up and announce for a visit most people know you as so-and-so's daughter and every visit to the mall ends up being a high school reunion oh all right now that the stage is stage set let's crack into it the year was 2010 and i was a very very very naive 21 years old that night my friend was hosting his annual end of the summer keg party and a group of us had spent the day setting everything up the festivities were well on their way and everyone who was meant to come was there being way too drunk in true East Coast keg party fashion. While talking with some friends, a guy that I sort of recognized came up and went,

hey, MJ, right? You're friends with so-and-so. It's Andrew. I looked at him trying to figure out where I had known him from, but again, small city, everyone kind of knows each other. Not thinking much of it, I talked with him for a bit when he pointed out that I didn't have a drink. I explained that I was leaving early the next morning to go to a concert in halifax it was an all-day outdoor festival pitbull and lmfao were the headliners oh my gosh i'm so glad you told me because i was wondering that immediately lmfao in canada okay see ya and pitbull and halifax of all places i know we know i love halifax i was definitely going to be drunk enough for everyone at the party, at that party then, okay, at the festival. And that I wasn't going to be staying much longer and heading home.

He then asked in which direction I was going because I was actually looking for, because he was actually looking for a ride downtown. Lucky for him, I live downtown. I told him I wasn't really sure when I'd be leaving, but if he was still around by then, I'd let him know. He then proceeded to ask me about every 20 minutes when I'd be leaving. Okay, well, get a hint, guy. Yeah. Finally, I thought I would just drive him downtown and come back. Not a big deal, right?

Wrong. We got to my car and I started to drive. He then looks at me and says, so, Rebecca, what have you been up to? I look at him puzzled and said, MJ, which is her name. Right. He looks at me and says, I know. You used to work at this restaurant and you're friends with this person. So clearly he knew who I was. I think it was just the emphasis had to be on the right word. Yes. Gotcha. Gotcha.

Sorry. Em and I were literally sitting there and I was like, I feel like I'm taking an SAT chart. Our brains couldn't like wrap around it. Couldn't process the sentence, but it was like, I think it really was just like a matter of punctuation figuring it out. I really think I had't process the sentence, but it was like, I think it really was just like a matter of punctuation figuring it out. I really think I had to read it out loud for it to like make sense. No, that, no, the way that you just said it makes total sense. Okay, cool. I know you used to work at this restaurant.

You're friends with this person. So clearly he knew who I was. He then asked me where I work now. So I told him that I was working for the government conducting supervised visits with children in the foster system and their parents. He proceeds to say, no way. You used to be in the system and now you work for the system again very confused i tell him i have no idea what he's talking about i've never been in any system trying to change the subject i ask him what he's been up to and that is when he drops a bomb

he tells me he just recently got out of prison not wanting to hear why or what happened i don't say much i just love that moment of like cool cool cool cool oh uh-huh how about some tunes how about yeah beer me that disc i oh my god not wanting to hear why or what happened i don't say much and then he decides and he then decides to pull out and show me his laminated prison id how what a party trick that is yeah uh-huh i certainly feel tricked i glanced at it and saw his full name and that is when it hit me i knew exactly where i knew him from rewind a few years ago when my friend started dating this guy dating this guy i didn't have a good feeling about him at all and told her there was something about him that just rubbed me the wrong way she laughed it off and told me i watched too many murder shows okay this friend needs to listen up yeah yeah yeah and that it was fine a

few months later this same guy was arrested for beating the literal shit out of someone with a baseball bat oh my god oh my god the poor guy later passed away from his injuries and my friend's ex ended up in jail whoa oh shit in case you haven't put two and two together yet i mean i think this math m and i can do that this this is the this is the logic reasoning in in sat that i got this is what i wish the sat had been because i think a equals b b equals c a equals c yeah A equals B, B equals C, A equals C. Yeah, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. In case you haven't put two and two together, that was who was in my car. I tried to not say much and not to mention the fact that I'm an idiot and just realized he killed someone. Oh, my God.

He asked to borrow my phone to call his friend to let him know he was close and to meet him outside the bar he was going to. I let him do it because killer, duh, and quickly dropped him off. He tried calling my phone a few times that night from his friend's phone and i didn't pick up ew so he like knew that he had called his friend and then started calling the number back knowing it was your phone whoa oh it keeps going whoops okay okay great later that night when i was finally home i was in my room getting ready for bed when all of a sudden I hear pounding on my front door and someone screaming, Rebecca. Goodbye. Okay. I froze.

I couldn't believe he found where I lived. And of course he did. I said I lived downtown. He knew the car I drove and I parked right in front of my apartment. I got out of my room and woke up my roommate and her boyfriend who were both less than impressed when i told them what was happening oops i accidentally brought a murderer here oh my god what uh jabroni what seriously what uh what a mistake uh-oh oopsies luckily he got the hint and i didn't answer my phone or door and left he left a series of bizarre voicemails on my phone but i never heard back from him moral ofal of the story is 21-year-olds are dumb. Always, always trust your gut about someone

and never, ever, ever give someone a ride when they call you by the wrong name three times. Okay, so that must have been Rebecca was the wrong name. That should have been my first hint. Don't worry. We didn't get it either, MJ. Love you guys. Love the podcast. Thank you for keeping me company and sane during these weird, strange times. XOXO MJ. And I will add, definitely not Rebecca. Definitely. What a noodlehead you were that night. Because if I found out that I was driving someone, if I was driving someone who I knew that they just like bludgeoned someone to death, I might not drive home immediately. I would be like, hmm, I'm gonna go out of town for the

weekend now i would probably just pull over at the police station be like arrest me i've done something terrible i don't even know what i've done i would like you to lock me up just so i'm safe if you could i feel like this yeah exactly i feel like this is something i would do this so i'm not even gonna pretend like it isn't i feel like i would do this and then i would be like well i'm sure it's fine and then like it's very i mean i get it like it's something dumb i get it i totally get it and done way stupider shit so as an adult though as i'm slowly like reaching the age of like parents i'm just like oh my god i'm so scared for you closer to 30 yeah i'm just thinking i now that i know better i I'm scared for you.

But when I was 21, I absolutely would have also done it. I think the time when we started the podcast, I was still like pretty friggin stupid. I think like doing the podcast has really put a new storyline in my head about strangers. I mean, it really was like, I mean, it's like, you know, my favorite murder of like, don't, you know, fuck politeness, you know? Yeah, yeah, exactly. We hadn't heard that phrase before. I think we're all learning.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so this is the bonus one. This is from Nicole. She uses she, her pronouns. Thank you for normalizing pronouns, Nicole. And this, we got two Richard Speck stories this week. Oh, what?

What's going on? stories this oh what week and what's going on well so for those of you who don't know if you um join patreon one of your spectacular little benefits is that um you can catch me on instagram every tuesday for tea time catch me at tea time it's gonna get weird as em likes to say it it gets weird it gets way fucking weird um people really don't hold back when it comes to announcing their secrets and uh i'm not by the way just to be clear i'm not invited because for whatever reason christine's literally never seen one because she's i i saw the first two and then i was like wow this is so fun and then like literally every tuesday it's on our literal and that's why we drink calendar and i like don't

see anything and then the next day and post like some screenshots of it and i'm like wait it happened i really haven't invited christine we just talked about this by the way like 24 hours ago and i was like i checked my close friends and you're fucking there to be fair though you have to understand why i'm skeptical because you have removed me like three times i have removed you for like nice reasons okay and then i just forget to add you back well the first time you never added me you were like oh i didn't think to add you there's never there's never any uh malice to it it's just me being silly like a silly me being sensitive so i'm just gonna um continue to to watch the screenshots i guess and listen to this story and uh participate in in this third party way one day christine might make it to close

friends who's to say um it's not for me to say clearly but you certainly could become a close friend wait oh i'm not a patron that's why okay i'll start giving you money is that is that what you want from me just that'll be a couple bucks yeah okay but so basically people uh can submit their uh anything they want usually i prefer gossipy drama because I'm trash and have no moral ground. Can't confirm. And so people like to anonymously submit their secrets. It is fun. From what I remember, it's a great time.

Since yesteryear, yeah. Yeah, I'm not going to be petty about it, I swear. But, okay, so the reason I mentioned all of this for Tea Time Tuesday, by the way, join Patreon if you'd like and you can be a part of Tea Time Tuesday. of this for tea time tuesday by the way join patreon if you'd like and you can be a part tea time tuesday um uh the reason i mentioned that is because every week so far we have started a murder tally where um what so every because every single time we do tea time tuesday at least a dozen people are like i know a murderer and i'm like jesus christ how many people know murderers and so i've been like at least once every tea time tuesday i caption one of the the posts with like please submit your story to and that's why you drink so apparently i've seen those apparently someone

actually finally did so this is our first this is our first tea time tuesday submission crossover i love it and this says my dad spent time in prison with john wayne gacy and richard speck which means fuck we have two listeners out there one whose dad spent time with richard speck and one whose aunt yelled at richard speck so oh this is crazy that's way fun um really bringing the world together so uh this is what nicole has to say hello and that's why we drink fam my name is nicole and i say hello and that's where we drink fam my name is nicole and i have a story that my dad shared with me not too long ago my dad grew up in illinois and was a bit of a troublemaker and uh to this day he refuses to share with me what he did to end up in

prison uh-oh nicole um but i'm gonna guess it has something to do with drugs okay at least it's not murder uh he has to have an he used to have an 800 a day heroin out it habit in the 70s and it's amazing he didn't OD and die well I'm very proud of your uh your dad's recovery then me too um whatever it was that he did it was bad enough to land him in prison in oh this is a French word joieille illinois joy i don't think they pronounce it in illinois like a french word then joy lit it's literally toilet with a j yeah hang on i know i think it's joliet i'm pretty i'm almost positive it's joliet joy lit no joliet the i is before the l unless they spelled it wrong they spelled it wrong because it's definitely joliet oh i literally was like

i'm gonna avoid saying toilet if i can joylet sorry i mean as if it's the joy joliet that i know that that it's yes it's joliet from now on when i want to like sound classy when i'm going to the bathroom i'm going to say i'm using the the toliet how about that just twist the letters around okay so it was bad enough to land him in in prison in joliet illinois for nine years um he said he was incarcerated in 1978 and he met a man named john wayne gacy oh cool was in the cell next to him holy shit oh god he refused to go into detail with me about it when asked but also told me that he knew richard speck as well since they were in at the same time he told me you'll never know what true evil is until you meet someone like that oh ew ew ew ew my dad is pretty closed off when it comes to those parts of his past and has

for the most part refused to talk about it in great length he thinks my obsessions with true crime and all things spooky are weird but then drops this bomb of knowledge on me like it's no big deal uh-huh uh thanks for reading i've got lots of other spooky and some true crime stories to share but i'll save those for another time nicole wow okay just to have like to to hear your dad say that's true evil must be the like the scariest most like sobering moment especially a man who who according to you doesn't really talk about things or doesn't share things from the past it's always the more cryptic and mysterious it sounds the worse it is yeah like if if i said

like you you'll never know true evil like that obviously i'm going to go into as much detail as my adhd brain will also you say that to me like all the time so exactly okay but if this man like never talks about his past yeah you will never know evil like that all of a sudden i'm like i gotta know now you better tell me truly because at the beginning i was like oh emin i would have found out why he if this was our dad but now i'm like i don't blame him i've been like you can't leave this room until i know every bit of information but at this point i'm like i don't blame him if my dad was like i because my dad definitely does not appreciate my true crime uh now career i guess he is not a fan um and uh he calls it disgusting stuff and great i i judge him for that but if he then was like but

i also sat next to john wayne gacy and experienced true evil then i'd be like i get it i get it you don't have to like it checks out like i'm not gonna judge you um so woof okay well anyway thank you for uh uh well first of all to eva for reading all those and figuring out uh which stories we would read and thank you to everyone who wrote in those were good those were juicy 2021 wow really uh really rang in the new year appropriately i think oh i have a fun fact about juliet i just looked it up oh so apparently this is a fun a really actually fun fact oh mispronouncing is a misdemeanor in joliet so you'd be fined fuck it's a town oh sorry no no i was gonna say i didn't mispronounce it once not even a little bit not even a little tiny bit town

fathers in joliet reflecting the pet peeve of hearing their town's name mispronounced Joliet, or I guess Joyless. Sorry. It was spelled that way. That's, you know, when all local folk know it's pronounced Joliet made pronouncing it Joliet, a misdemeanor punishable by a $5 fine. Five bucks.

I'll Venmo. I'll Venmo, Illinois, five bucks. That's fine. That's wild. Okay. Wow.

Well, in Virginia beach, which was like right near where i went to school there it's illegal to swear in public and i was always yeah and i was always like i was like oh boy i'm in big trouble the m was like i was in jail for some time i'd be like i know why well all this it's really fun if you ever look up like the signs for like no swearing or no cussing or whatever it was it's like the the red circle with a slash through it but it's really fun if you ever look up like the signs for like no swearing or no cussing or whatever it was. It's like the red circle with a slash through it, but it's a bunch of explicit, like expletives, like, it's like symbols. Yeah, it's a bunch of symbols.

Oh, I love that. But yeah, that was, that was always the one law that I knew. I was like, if I'm going to jail for anything, I can promise it's this one. Yeah, yeah. Not surprised. Anyway, thank you everyone who uh submitted stories for january next time we see it will be february oh my gosh um wow wow wow which will be uh i guess at some some whenever this the second episode comes out or the february episode comes

out we'll probably be talking about the fact that we've hit four years it will be i was gonna say our three-year anniversary but i guess it's our four-year. It is our four-year. I can't wrap my head around it. Four-year anniversary next month. Woof. Oh my gosh. So thank you to everyone

who submitted. If you would like to submit, you can do it either through andthat'swhywedrink at gmail.com or, which is more preferred, is the submission form on andthat'swhywedrink.com. That's right.

So yeah, thank you so much and we'll catch you on the flip side, cool cat cat catch you on the flip side thanks dad you're okay and that's all right we drink