And That's Why We Drink - Listener Stories: Vol. 83

Episode Date: September 1, 2023

Happy Zeptember! We're singing, "where did you go? I miss you so," because we haven't recorded together in a month. We've got some updates on Christine's Sweden trip and Em's drama-filled hometown beach vacay, in addition to some very spooky travel tales submitted by you! We hear from besties road-tripping with A Haunted Road Atlas on a Hot Girl Ghost Hunt, haunted honey-mooners, and a nearly beyond belief and surprisingly heart warming story about a listener's parents who met when their dad pled guilty to manslaughter of their mom's boyfriend. We can't thank you all enough for sharing your stories. Happy start to spooky season and we'll see you in the dungeon where we'll be eating egg salad sandwiches in the dark together, romantically? ...and that's why we drink!CW: We're so sorry, we talk pretty extensively and in annoyingly graphic detail about vomit in this episode as it pertains to the third story read.

Hello, everybody. This is just a quick PSA for this listener's episode that story number three, that's the second one that I'm going to be reading. It is heavily about throw up. And if you are not someone who likes to hear about that, please skip to story number four. This is just a quick content warning because, wow, we just couldn't stop talking about Throw Up. And the story talks about Throw Up also. So I've already said Throw Up a lot in this content warning alone. I'm sorry. But just there you go i miss you so feels like it's been forever how was sweden i used to sit with my ipod nano on the bus and gaze out at the fields.

Well, not the fields, the inner city of Cincinnati. The cemetery. Okay. And I used to say, my life is so sad and hard. And I would listen to that song. Especially on a rainy day when it's dripping down the window. And then my friend would be like, hey, you want to play Miss Mary Mac? And I was like, I'm having a moment.

It's like, she can wait. She's had enough time. I was like, I have no friends and I'm sad and they were like i'm i'm your friend i thought but okay i'm literally asking you to play miss mary mac but i guess you could go home and self-prophesize or whatever i'm just like so self-pitying back then anyway hi m i miss you for those of you who are um just listening in or not even if you're a regular listener, it may sound like Christine and I were hanging out last week. But in reality, we haven't recorded in like a month because we've both been all over the place. Christine has been very all over the place and not even in the U.S. Only four different countries.

Well, actually, five. Six. Oh, my God. Six countries. Yes. Girl, do you want to list them because i didn't even know that well i didn't either um clearly because i just had to count um no but two of them were just layovers so that doesn't really count but um okay

amsterdam then sweden then drove through denmark to germany then drove through Denmark to Germany, then drove to Austria, then drove back to Germany, then drove back to Austria, then flew to Paris, then flew home. So I'm back. Damn. My God, you're like Eliza Thornberry. Thank you. That's the compliment I've been waiting for my whole life. I did wear pajamas and Eva said, oh, for sleepover vibe, or you said that yeah or somebody said that and i say sort of but mostly for jet lag i refuse to put on real clothing today fair enough yeah you came in okay last night we had a tentative plan to like do to record an episode today and i assumed you would call in sick or something because you just landed last night

happening until i looked at my until somebody oh matt our manager was like hey can we call after our recording tomorrow and i was like what i haven't slept in 36 hours so it was like 8 p.m and i was like i'm going to bed and i did and i survived so here i am ready to work yeah what time is it for you right now in my head or in real life well like in your head like your jet lag oh oh like jet lag wise um only 7 30 7 30 p.m okay okay um you're a trooper dinner time well do you have a favorite country you went to oh well thank you for asking um i love sweden except for last time i was there i tried to jump off the boat into a fjord. Last time? I forget how you've been to these places more than once.

It's just like, you know. At this point in your life, are you just a regular of Germany where you were like, oh, like I already know exactly where we need to go? Sort of. It depends. There were some cities I'd never been to, which was very cool. where you were like oh like i already know exactly where we need to go sort of it depends there were some cities i'd never been to which was very cool and i was like oh i get to be like touristy you know and i didn't visit really any family which was kind of interesting so we could be like full on tours not just the only thing we missed which i'm really bummed about are the dungeons there are these dungeons where you can go down into like the dungeons from 1200 or something and like see all the implements and shit and uh the tour we had just missed the tour so next time when i take you

we're gonna go down to the dungeon together i'll always go to a dungeon tour and that's really a solid way to convince me to go anywhere yeah well i don't i don't want to overwhelm you with questions i know we know i appreciate your interest it's very kind i don't i don't want to overwhelm you with questions i know we no i appreciate your interest it's very kind i feel like i've just been solo i don't know i've just missed talking to you so um i don't even know what you've been up to i'm like this and that and that and this how many countries um just the one in my mind or right in real life obviously in your mind oh that's uh that's i've left the galaxy a million times oh yeah you're a star tender i forgot um i i haven't i have not done anything nearly as interesting as you i went home that was it that i went home your friend was baby

but we did already talk about that i guess i had a baby. I went to the beach with my family. That was fine. Oh, yeah. The last I heard, you were dreading that trip. I was dreading it because I was like, what on earth are we going to do other than the beach? And we ended up actually all having a good time not near a beach. Great. So we figured it out, and the only issue I had was resolved.

But there was some family drama that ensued. Oh, always. Always, which I ate it up. I was like, I was in the center of it and I was eating it up. I didn't cause the problem, but I stayed associated with each member of the drama. So you had like a front row seat, sort of. Oh, it was like popcorn in a bucket to me. What the hell? Okay, I want to hear

about that next time. It was like, it was drama where even if I were to tell it right now, everyone would go. That's it. Like it was, telling the story, it doesn't make it as juicy as like just getting to watch it unravel. Just being part of it, yeah. Oh, oh. So that was my favorite part of the entire

trip. Jesus. You like thrive on chaos and pain. Again, I love being secondarily associated with chaos. And that's exactly where I was. I fit right in there. So I was having a good time. I was told we will never be having a family trip again. That's probably the news you were waiting for.

So I think everyone else had a different experience than I did. But yeah, it was I'm glad to be back. I was very tired immediately of the humidity. I'm glad to be back in dry, dry L.A. Yes. Back to the desert. Back to the. OK, last thing I'm going to ask you.

Well, two things I'm going to ask because I don't want to, you know, bore our listeners, but I also truly haven't spoken to you since a month ago a month how was traveling with a baby and what was your yummiest thing you ate oh my god I love this okay and also if it's okay with you I'd like to also chat about this more on the regular episode when we have more room for like a banter situation um because I know this is just a listener episode but emma and i can't help ourselves okay people we're catching up um what oh traveling with the baby was so much easier than i thought she did fucking great she just like colored or watched her shows and just like hung out the whole time just like she rallied baby yeah she like totally rallied like she didn't get sleep for like two days straight because she wouldn't really sleep well on the plane and she just was like tired but she said i'm here bitches

we're gonna go participated and like didn't cry she didn't cry once um i'm very lucky i know that because i i've i've i've taken care of babies that are that are criers and stuff and i i get it i get how i'm a crier i know you are I would have been so terrible on that trip just as an adult yeah um no it was good it was good I mean it was not without its hiccups and it is a pain to have a stroller and have to find an elevator at every like public transportation in Europe um so that is a pain uh and a lot of delays and layovers and stuff. And so it was not easy, but it was less traumatizing than I thought it would be. Let's put it that way. And the yummiest thing I ate was probably there was.

Oh, God, there's it's just it's I thought of you the whole time because it's the sandwiches, man. Europe makes the best effing sandwiches. Like every country I went to, I was like, I'm going to miss these damn sandwiches. Like I think it's because the bread is so good. Like they really care about the bread and the cheese. And like everything is just so well made and freshly made. And so I just ate so many effing sandwiches. I don't think like I wrote a grocery list today and I'm like trying my best to find a replacement for what

i'll be good luck yeah it's sad i know it's very tragic but um but thank god you got a real german woman who hand delivers you homemade bread all the time so i guess i am a step ahead you've got a full-ass baker that like international baker anyway so that those are i just the sandwiches i thought of you every time i'm like man m would fucking slam this like these salami sandwiches that's right rally i'd be like what are we eating where are we in why are we let's go i know it's like the food is just so good um but so i thought of you and i missed you dearly and i can't wait to eat one with you in the dungeon.

Oh, that was the nicest thing you could have ever said to me. That was romantic. That was, oh my God, by candlelight? By sheer pitch blackness? Right, by no light, by torchlight as the villagers come for us. Stop talking, you're going to get me all riled up. Okay. Well, I'm glad.

It's nice to know that even, you when i'm gone one day somewhere in the ether i'll always be tingling when you're near a sandwich you will it's like there's i can't help it even if like we were somehow estranged which i can't imagine our stupid souls would ever figure out a way to do that would be your memory when if when we break up one day oh you can't escape me whenever you eat a sandwich yeah that song where did you go and i would cry i miss you so those little children singing in the chorus and i'm just crying not the echoing children in the background and then m is like can we go record now and i'm like stop I'm having a moment missing you. I'm eating a sandwich with Mary Mac. And we're both like, Christine just won't hang out with us.

She is just so self-pitying. Oh, God. OK. Story time for all the people who endured the last 10 minutes. So this was Eva's little tale she regaled to us. She typed in a phrase. And i guess because we've both been traveling she used the word road trip and apparently i guess usually when she types in a word she kind of has to weed through some stories to find like the highlights of them all but

back to back the road trip stories were excellent you know yeah winners winners so uh we have been instructed to just dive right in and that's what we shall do so we so instead we spent 10 minutes talking and now we'll dive right in that's what we shall do now yeah oh and by the way now that i'm home i got an xl duncan donuts iced coffee with pumpkin spice syrup so did you miss it i did well actually no there's dunkin donuts everywhere because they know they know they know how how good it is but um i avoided it because i was like i'm being a real tourist i understand and not giving in to the craving of starbucks and you know what's wild though is when i went to the philippines this is trash behavior i know it but i went to like six starbucks when i was in the philippines

it went everywhere all that coffee on your keyboard oh no i've watched it happen everyone go look at the youtube just for that moment because christine's coffee went everywhere that is like a rare i like don't i really have gotten better about about not spitting my drinks out but wow you just got me good that was not i don't know like i sort of knew what picturesque knew what was coming and yet it still shocked me to my core i think six starbucks is what overwhelmed you that's what it was i was like oh you stopped at a starbucks in the airport no i went to six and to be fair i was with rj's family they're the ones who kept saying let's go to starbucks and who am i to say no yeah absolutely not and uh

and my favorite thing though is so the starbucks menu i took pictures while i was there of like all the different foods that they sell yes which is its own experience to find out what they serve oh it blew my mind and their food was better in starbucks and one of the things that they had was like it was some sort of like pasta chicken alfredo kind of situation and it was so good and i intentionally ate too much of it because I knew I'd never have it again. Because you were running a fun run race for the cure. I felt like it with myself and my tummy. Yeah.

I was like, we got to eat as much fettuccine as my body will take. Well, like the McDonald's in Germany has vegan chicken nuggets and vegan. Like, you know, there's fun surprises. The McDonald's in the Philippinesilippines has mc spaghetti that doesn't really work mc spaghetti it's literally called that um anyway oh the german one the vegan one's called mcplant mcplant i love that it's okay well i will say if you if you're going to the philippines, for my sake, go eat that. It was like had mushroom in it.

Like it's like a pesto pasta. I think it was like, just go eat it. It was so good. And please, for me, just go eat it. The end. Back to road trip ghost stories. Anyway, I guess we should talk about the show now. Just so everyone knows, we also want to be better about our banter.

It's just, it just is impossible. We want to, but about our banter it's just it just is impossible we want to but we don't want it enough you know yeah we want it a little but like not we don't want to put no into it yeah we know we should want it we just it's like hard really to commit so hard everything about our job so uh okay here's our story i love the subject line already we saw an alien on our hot girl ghost hunt i love a hot girl ghost hunt remember we had back-to-back hot girl ghost hunts when i visited you in cincinnati or in newport oh fuck yeah and i was so pregnant and it was so hot so it literally was me hot girl in pregnancy maternity clothes i wanted to complain about the heat but you were

also literally about to blow any moment and so i was like i don't get to complain about the heat but you were also literally about to blow any moment and so i was like i don't get to complain but i'm so uncomfy um but no that was a good time we should do that again back to back now that we can we can drink i can drink now that you can drink we'll bring your wine bra i can't wait it'll keep your chest nice and cold on those hot nights okay dear emothy hersene shifter sweet baby g ew gross and leona that's precious i thought they were gonna say ew leona and i was like don't you dare ew gross makes more sense my name is brie she her pronouns thank you for analyzing pronouns and i have a super fun story for you a few years ago my friend brit who also uses she her pronouns thank you for analyzing pronouns. And I have a super fun story for you. A few years ago, my friend Britt, who also uses she, her pronouns. Thank you for analyzing pronouns.

And I bonded over our mutual love for all things spooky ooky. I'm a big podcast girly and put her on too. And that's why we drink. And we went to your show in LA a few years back when you talked about the Queen Mary. And we knew we would have to add it to our list of places to check out. Another thing that we added to our list was the Winchester Mystery House. So we started planning our trip for August 2022. We were calling it our Hawkgirl Ghost Hunt.

I love that. I do too. That will be the title of our third tour, apparently. When we steal it from you, your intellectual property. There'll be a tiny little and the smallest font possible be like from brie and brit yeah yeah yeah sponsored by uh before our trip you guys released a haunted road atlas which i quickly scooped up and upon receiving it noticed there were other stops that we should check out along the way oh the sweet this is like the first real testimony

i'm saying to people using our book my heart is like pounding i'm like so nervous and excited my heart is a flutter is yes a flutter uh we ended up going to the winchester mystery house alcatraz and evergreen cemetery which is where they buried hundreds of unclean bodies from the jonestown massacre um there's also a section for the oakland hell's angels with their pictures nicknames and memorabilia. Fuck yeah. Wow. This story, however, is about none of those things because we had a paranormal encounter way before even getting to our Airbnb before we started our trip. I'll set the scene. It's around 11 p.m. and we're driving from L.A. to San Jose. We're on the I-5, which for those of you who don't know, is just a long highway.

Yes, that's true. Yes, that is a pretty generic description of it, yes. Middle of nowhere, and it's 11 p.m., so it's pitch black outside. We were driving through a town called Gilroy, which is known for two things. I can already tell you before I even see the rest of this. The Garlic Festival. Yes. Because I've been so many damn times.

You've told me about that, yeah. The Gilroy Garlic Festival and Yes. Because I've been so many damn times. You've told me about that. Yeah. The Gilroy Garlic Festival and Paranormal Sightings. The only thing that we could see was the lights from other cars ahead of us, which is what made what happened next so weird. We were driving up on what looked like an airplane. I'm driving and Brit is in the passenger seat. We stopped our conversation and watched the plane begin to descend as if it was going to land it's in the it's in the right side of the sky and landing on the left side at a normal

airplane speed when all of a sudden it shoots back up into the sky and makes the sharpest u-turn back towards the right so they're just like watching this like weird maneuver in the sky we acknowledge that the speed is super fast and we start to throw out ideas of what it could be brit suggests maybe there's an air force base around and they're running some tests but remember there's no other lights around just the cars and the planes so where would the base even be by now the plane is looking like it's going to land again and as it's descending and heading back to the right side of our view. The only problem is that we're driving up on it and it looks like it's going to land on the freeway, which has only two lanes.

The fuck? We can see three lights on the aircraft, which we know is not a plane now, and they are positioned on the bottom of the ship, which is shaped like a triangle. And when the ship turns a certain way, the lights disappear and you can see it all because the ship is black.

What the F is happening we see the lights because it's heading right for us and the light in front of the ship is shining right into our eyes i'm freaking out and trying to decide if i should break speed up swerve or just keep going right before it hits us it makes another sharp u-turn and drops down to the height of the other cars oh what the fuck stay in the sky get out of my way the fuck you have nothing but all of space don't literally it drives alongside the cars heading in the opposite direction and we end up passing it it was a flat ship about the size of an suv no one could have been inside and once we passed it we looked back and it was gone oh hang on sorry why is your because you're scaring me you're i'm really scared now sorry m's like all of a sudden m started like flashing as if there was something in your room landing at a quick speed on the freeway it's because a lot of

my um a lot of my lighting comes from my tv and it went to a youtube ad are you in your oh you're home right okay i kept i'm home so m currently looks like they're as even i both uh separately remarked looks like they're at like a magic show and eva said yeah you look like a magician at the exact same time i said you look like a magician's assistant which is probably the rudest thing i've ever said with like blue curtains in the back is that like a fake background or a real background no it's a black it's a curtain it's it's um soundproofing it looks good like it looks very chic but uh but there were just all these flashing lights i thought maybe this ufo was coming for you no this is actually this is to the side of the troll hole.

This is on the wall, another wall of the window. But my room looks like it threw up every article of clothing I've ever owned. And so I moved my camera and now I just have, I look like I'm on a stage apparently. Yeah, like about to get sawed in half. But I also, I have a TV that's always right behind the computer and I use it as lighting and it went to a YouTube ad. So that's that's what that was the flashing you saw. We're so professional.

Anyway, sorry, I didn't. Anyway, it just alarmed me because all of a sudden like there was like it did look like there was like a glitch on my screen. Yeah, because my skin was flashing different colors. I thought they were coming for you. So anyway, once they passed this thing thing they looked back and it was totally gone um we started talking and brit started talking because i was crying at this point and we tried to wrap our brains about what the actual fuck we just witnessed we realized that none of the other cars around seemed concerned with a ship driving alongside them and no one changed speeds.

No one swerved. Were we the only ones that saw it? We tried looking up other sightings in the area and no one was able to get a picture of it, but there was a drawing we found and it looked exactly like what we saw. We made it to our Airbnb about an hour later, still shaking. And the next morning when we started our hot girl ghost hunt, we told everyone we came in contact

with about it and they all believed us even better they all had some crazy stories about Gilroy and weird things they'd experienced. Holy shit. We ended our trip with a celebratory tattoo and flash forward to today July is coming to an end and next week

Britt and I will be going to the Queen Mary for another hot girl ghost ghost hunt yay uh and another random tattoo any suggestions any suggestions oh you should get the the mascot of the gilbert garlic festival oh so something in between that um you could figure it out like both of those mind meld them together and make something happen thank you for bringing us to oh you could do it because the mascot is a little garlic with a face on it you could put him in a ufo he's riding the ufo sure with xenon obviously obviously thank you for bringing us together to celebrate all things spooky and your amazing book which our boyfriends absolutely hate, which means great.

Which means we get to hang out more one on one. Another note, Brit hosts skate and surf meetups in Long Beach. Oh, hey. Therefore, actually, that's good to know. Therefore, women and members of the queer community to come together in a safe group uh to go be well good i mean eva's gonna go to that right like she skates to be skaters bladers or surfers shut up come on that's adorable um anyway that thing thank you to brie that was very very lovely beautiful um i am so like okay i was driving i drove a lot in europe as i mentioned and i

the whole drive like especially when people were sleeping was like if i see a fucking ufo right now and everyone's asleep i'm gonna scream because i won't have any other witnesses oh yeah but the whole time i thought i'm gonna see a ufo i did not but like i want to kind of i do you do i want to see a ufo you know how long have we had an opportunity to wonder about that and i still don't have a question i still answered that question i think we're both a little scared too i mean at least i think my heart couldn't take it i was gonna say i think i say yes but then in the moment i'd be like never mind never mind i am i it's just like the chaos i don't want to be in the drama but i would like to be a secondary person so maybe if like we could like like mike someone you want to watch we want to watch me get it that's what you're saying i want to be like the technical director backstage of

big brother and watch someone else get abducted. And I just want like the front row view. You just want to produce it. Yeah. Oh, God. Okay. Well, I want to see a UFO with the assurance that I'm just seeing it and not going aboard it. Nothing's being put in me.

Yeah. I don't want to be in... No invasive bullshit. I just want to like see it and then like be done i'd be fine with that i'd be fine yeah um but i don't know if those kind of agreements exist uh so i i just watched um the latest episode of jersey shore and uh one of them pulled a prank on the rest of them that there was a ufo attack coming and he like hired like a whole drone company to come in and like have all the lights come through oh my god they were in the

like the middle of nowhere and he like had been prepping like been like plotting all week and saying like oh people see ufos out here all the time it's really wild that's you plant the idea and then uh and then like hired like a hundred drones to come out and make crazy light maneuvers and stuff. That's pretty genius. I'd be pissed off, though, if I were a friend. Next episode, we see how everyone reacts to it being a prank. Oh, I see. OK, so you don't know yet.

Yeah. They left it on everyone sobbing, crying because they're so stressed. I would be scared. And then I'd be pissed because I'd be like, at least I got this cool experience. And then it would be a joke. And I'd be so stressed. I would be scared. And then I'd be pissed. Because I'd be like, at least I got this cool experience. And then it would be a joke. And I'd be so upset. I'd be pissed for five minutes. And then I'd have to give it to them.

Because I'd be like, you know what? That worked. That was a good prank. It's something about it. Very effective. Wow. I can't believe you saw a UFO, Brie. Okay.

I have a story here. This is called Hauntings,s honeymoons and bigfoot poop it is from gabrielle they she and leo he him we got three separate pronouns the trifecta yeah the trifecta uh hello i'm christine eva and all the fur and human babies my spouse leo and i love the show and listen every sund Sunday when the new episodes come out. See, some people's partners like our show and our book, okay? Boyfriends of Bree and Brit. This past week, we went on our honeymoon

and we did a spooky tour from Kansas to Maine. Oh my gosh. Do we have things to tell you? I like the idea that they were just writing a list of things to tell Em and Christine. That makes me so happy. Right. Our first stop was the Waverly Hills Sanatorium, which was a TB ward that Em covered back in episode 20.

We did one of their paranormal tours and my spouse and I got the chance to interact with some known spirits there. This is a lights out tour, so the entire way is dark and spooky as you learn the history of the sanatorium and the associated ghost stories well on the fourth floor our tour group split into two and went to two separate nearly pitch black hallways then the guide sorry i'm about to ask you something is this like um is this a place with like the creeper or crawler or whatever i think so waverly hills okay yeah i'm like scared already i don't know 90 i'm sure that yes there's or crawler or whatever i think so waverly hills okay yeah i'm like scared already i don't know 90 i'm sure that yes there's a crawler or the creeper or whatever it is yeah yeah yeah okay i think it's called the crawler the crawl and it's like a just a solid black shadow figure that just walks on all of its legs legs it's like crab walking oh yeah forget it i don't even know if that's coming i just

might not even be part of the story okay then the guide asked for a volunteer and my hand shot up my poor spouse said of course my wife volunteered to get haunted the guide courtney told me to walk down the pitch black hallway oh my god sorry until she said to stop which was about 20 to 30 feet away from the group then courtney the guide called out to thomas and michael and asked them to touch me oh my god bye okay let's be clear someone else in this me has has during a hot girl ghost hunt has welcomed things to touch them what kind of sicko would do that i know but i'm just giving you a reality check before you go in too hard on this people you're 100 right i deserve that call out i'm so sorry you definitely did it and our audiences you could across the nation we have heard groans after we admit that you've done that.

You can touch me now. I know. And it actually did create quite a stir if you want to see our live show. No spoilers, but I did say they can touch me. It's really, really dumb. And then they do respond to that. Yeah, very dramatically. Oops.

And then I act like I didn't just ask for them to do that. Okay. Anyway, then Courtney called out to Thomas and Michael and asked them to touch me while I stood with my arms out like a T. Suddenly, it felt like I was being pushed. And once I said so, Courtney asked them to stop. And they did. Everyone in the group said it looked like there were two people on either side of me,

but I was certain I was alone. Then once Courtney heard it was our haunted honeymoon tour of 2023, all those are capital letters. I love that. The HHT 2023. My spouse was voluntold to get haunted next. He traded places with me and Courtney once again asked Thomas and Michael to push him. He said it felt like his hands were grasped and when Courtney said stop, it went away. He was concerned as to why he wasn't pushed before realizing that he had a patch of the Virgin Mary on the back of his jacket and he wondered if Thomas and Michael were religious and he felt his hands get grabbed again. After that, the tour continued and while nothing else physically happened, we were certain we saw things moving in the shadows. Our next stop was the Trans-Allegheny Lunatic Asylum, which was episode 22. I love that they're telling us because they know we don't know the episode numbers. I appreciate it. I do too. We didn't do a haunted tour due to

timing, but we did experience some weird shit. First, we got to the area where the ice pick lobotomies would occur no thank you but before our tour guide explained that i started getting a headache right behind my eye and nose oh my lord oh my lord i thought it was one of my typical migraines but nope she explained what the room was for and i side-eyed my spouse very concerned i can't hear that without holding my eyeballs i'm literally my sinuses are aching just thinking about it. That's horrible. She explained the room.

We left the room and it disappeared. Also, my spouse and I were exploring some rooms on one of the top floors and he thought I was behind him and says he even saw a body walking with him from his peripheral but I had moved to look at some art. I followed him in to find him talking to the empty room and he was so confused when I said I hadn't been with him.

So he was genuinely like talking to them and they were not there. Forget it. We also did some cryptozoology stuff while on our trip including seeing the one, the only, Mothman in Point Pleasant, West Virginia as well as the International Cryptozoology Museum in Portland, Maine where Em went.

Damn, they really- I say that, they hit up all the spots. Yes, I did go to that zoo. And I actually, or zoo, what was it? Oh, cryptozoology is where my brain went. I was like, oh my God, it's a zoo also? A petting zoo? No, I actually, I feel like I accidentally ended up there when we were in Portland. Yeah. And you sent like somehow I doubt that because you sent me like eight thousand photos the

entire time being like, look, it's you. Look, it's you. Look, I have a statue of you. Look, they have a picture of you. Like the most grotesque drawings of all these cryptids. In one case, I feel like I had like the the world's biggest, most discovered pile of poop from a cryptid or something. Oh, maybe that's what they were saying. Oh, wait.

Oh, wait. It's in here. Yes. I'm sorry. It's literally the next sentence. Okay. The museum was small, but had so many interesting things like models of the Pukwudgie, episode 137, Bigfoot, episode 215, and Mothman, episode 67.

They even had a life-sized model of what bigfoot's poop would look like there it is that's so funny and you probably sent me a photo and said look it's you so look it smells like you also that was like our last tour before coronavirus so yeah that was February 2020 yeah r.i.p the place was weird and just up our and your alley I've emailed pictures of our trip for your viewing pleasure and hope you enjoyed our spooky tales. We love the show and can't wait to see where you go from here. Lots of love, Gabby, they, she, and Leo, he, him. Aw. Thank you, Gabby and Leo.

And thank you for the thesis research on all of our episodes. I love it. Thank you for the multiple shout outs. I feel like the first story was an ad for our book. This is an ad for outs i feel like the first story was an ad for our book this is an ad for all our past episodes maybe that's what eva was trying to do is just help us promote she's like you need some marketing okay well thank you thank you both and the next one i'm already excited about because uh it sounds a little dramatic and this is from emma who uses

she her pronouns thank you for analyzing pronouns the is, and that's why we drink episode. This, by the way, is the opposite of promotion for us. And that's why we drink episode. Makes me vomit 35,000 feet in the air. I was like, what do you mean opposite of promo? So this brings us back down. We had our head in the clouds. Now we're humbled yet once again.

To be fair, we're still 35,000 feet in the air, just covered in vomit. Yeah. Okay, so here we go. Hello, Emma and Christine. I've been listening to your podcast for four years now and have never had the opportunity to write in until Christine suggested stories that correlate with the podcast. Oh, good. I genuinely have no explanation for this experience but i

thought you might find it as terrible as i do around the time when i first started listening to your podcast i was playing on an ice hockey team that's so badass which which occasionally required we fly out of state a travel ice hockey team yeah i mean hello it's not even like an intramural thing that's so cool some of us uh some of these flights included washington chicago and new york and all of which are usually long flights from my home in cali okay we didn't have wired headphones to watch movies on this particular flight so i downloaded a couple and that's why we drink episodes to listen to for the eight hour trip to pass the time one of these episodes my mom actually recommended i listened to like one episode i know we're true like you could have done one of our birthday episodes

and listen twice and you'd be there yeah one of these episodes my mom actually recommended i listened to love that your mom listens to this too precious um because of how scary she remembered it being i'll save us all the apologies and we'll just call him Daubert the Wall. What? Episode four, I think it is, is our very first Daubert the Raw. I would say Daubert the Raw if we're just

reversing the letters. Not to correct you and your... I don't even know why I'm inserting my opinion. Maybe Emma just wanted it even one step further removed. You're right. I don't know why I'm trying to just wanted an even one step further removed right I don't know why I'm trying to say it over and over again Daubert the role um I've never had a paranormal experience I could attribute to ghosts so when M was describing the violent feelings people get after visiting him or seeing him I wasn't thinking anything of it until about two quarters into the

episode when I got violently ill oh no I no. I'm prone to motion sickness, but there was absolutely no turbulence. Plus, I had flown several times with no sickness. But not only that, but my motion sickness had never driven me to the point of extreme nausea. I had to pull out that little vomit bag from the seat in front of me just to alleviate some of the illness. Have you ever done that, Em? Taking one of those bags out?

I've been close to it a couple times i have a couple times pulled them out and been like please god no i don't want to be that guy i've never seen anyone actually use one which i have but i have not used one myself thank god i and also you as you're about to get sick and you look at that thin little piece of paper you're like this isn't gonna do you're like we all know how bad and then the person next to you is like oh no they're pulling out the barf bag i also i wonder how people don't just have like better versions of barf bags that they bring with them you know i mean i feel like there's got to be an etsy creation of a thicker paper barf bag that's disposable and you can just buy a pack of 10 or something barf bags at c.com um well so what

i wonder too is like uh i just feel like nobody thinks oh i'm gonna throw up on this plane like everyone thinks like oh i'll be okay i'll prevent nausea with like the the bands the dramamine like you try everything to prevent it i feel like you just don't even think like to bring a barf bag for when you actually you know what i mean like that's true that's unless you like have children and you're used to like needing one of everything all the time true um i there are some vintage novelty uh barf bags but i bet they work less well than the ones because they're vintage i'm just surprised there's in like at least like a really thick plastic bag or something.

You know, like something that can't leak. Well, they do at hospitals, like the ones that have the circle. I don't know if you've ever used those, but I've puked at a hospital and they have plastic. I don't think I could actually, I wouldn't be able to aim with a barf bag. No, no, you put like your whole face in it, basically. Oh, okay. I'll show you. Because when I throw up is everyone having fun someone out there is feeling really sick right now but when i when i do it i really just i look like a cat having a furball situation like it's just

it's my mouth is just open and wherever it goes it goes yeah i'm the same way i don't have aim um but this is here it is i'll send you a picture it's basically like you put your whole face on it so you can't really miss uh-huh i would need my whole yeah my whole face like forehead to chin just to catch everything gross okay well it gets even grosser because uh emma says all while m is in my ear depicting the horrible car crash people got into after disrespecting him is when she's feeling this incredible nausea. Super duper.

Not sure what I did to this doll. Please don't crash this plane is all Emma's thinking. Anyway, I thought after clearing out my stomach, the feeling would leave and I would sleep it off. I like how poor Emma is vomiting with us in their ears oh i feel like that's one of those things where now you can never eat shrimp again

and you can never listen to our podcast again yeah uh anyway i thought uh after clearing my stomach the feeling would leave and i would sleep it off but it didn't i am not kidding when i say i filled that paper bag oh my god at some, one of the flight attendants came around and gave me a whole 42 gallon trash bag to hurl into. So they're like, we have the good stuff back here. Oh, the poor people sitting next to you, too. I know, like, poor you, but, like, additionally, poor people sitting next to you. Yeah, hopefully it was at least your teammates, you know. It was awful because there was no relief for two hours

how do you even have that much stuff in your belly like eventually you're just dry heaving oh i feel so bad yeah yeah yeah that's horrible my dad who was sitting next to me said i was throwing up so hard i looked like i was turning into a werewolf oh and you know like your eyes get all right oh oh and then you have to go play ice hockey yeah who are we kidding i'm sending you i would turn this fucking face on the ice and be like i'm recovering and cooling myself off i sent you another picture of some barf bags i found on etsy that have cats vomiting on them i appreciate that you have not given up yet the tenacity i just like great don't i don't like those because like if i look

if i were nauseated and then i looked at that and i saw a picture of a cat throwing up i would probably be like all right here we go maybe it's to help induce it maybe i don't know if anyone why anyone would want that but i don't know i'm someone where if i just think about throwing up i can throw up so look out look out everyone like literally nobody's listening anymore and that's the magic trick that's why you're the you're the magician not the assistant at some point i laid my head in my neck pillow on that tiny airplane tray closed my eyes and prayed for it all to go away i don't remember if i apologized but either way he either forgave me or i passed out when i lifted my head and the feeling was gone like nothing ever happened not even that uneasy feeling in my stomach after expelling everything I'm not sure

if there's a type of illness that only lasts a couple hours or if I somehow managed to get the worst motion sickness I've ever experienced with no movement but I am terrified to listen to any more stories about haunted dolls I'm even a little scared to be writing this down in my room right now thanks for me either thanks for all you do and i love listening on my commute to college apparently not about dolls though yeah and then maybe not in the plane and then it signed emma a scorpio and all of a sudden i don't feel bad for you at all um just kidding but thank you emma for your story and apologies to everyone else listening if you are prone to getting sick um I will say uh or if you're like pregnant I have morning sickness and it's easily triggered I'm so sorry um it wasn't more easily triggered when you were pregnant

oh yeah I was so nauseous for like months horrible horrible horrible um i only throw up a few times but it's just the worst i hate being nauseous more than throwing up i will happily throw up just to get rid of the nausea i know and i never have the guts so to speak to like actually throw up because i'm like i don't want to throw up because i hate throwing up but i don't want to i don't know it's just like a lose-lose because you always i think even after you throw up you're still nauseous does everyone want to know a really stupid secret about me always about me throwing up yes so i heard from somebody at some point and i don't know where i got this from i could have made it up in my own fucking dreams you heard it from yourself i might have heard it from myself that because the thing a lot of people hate

about getting sick is like it coming out of your nose that's like the worst yeah and so i heard to prevent that to like block your nasal passages scream while you're throwing up oh my god and so like to like use your your voice your vocal cords and your nasal passages will close up i don't know if that if that's totally supposed to be true, but I will say ever since I, like... Wait, that's true because you can't breathe in while you're talking. Like you can't, your nose, you can't breathe in air while you're...

Well, so my secret about me is every time, ever since I learned that, every time I throw up, I just scream. Like I just... I'm sorry. And it works. In years, I've never had throw up I just scream like I just I'm sorry and it works and but in years I've never had throw up come out of my nose no matter how violently I'm getting sick but it sounds but it sounds like a monster in the bathroom because I'm just going as I'm throwing up I like how it's like

you're like oh it's a much more pleasant experience but it sounds it is for me everyone else is probably scared but I'm having it just comes out of my mouth and I'm going like all right well that like oh it's a much more pleasant experience but it sounds it is for me everyone else is probably scared but i'm having it just comes out of my mouth and i'm gonna go like all right well that was it gross so anyway if someone if someone is about to get sick later today or in the future just try it and it has always made the experience better for me and now i'm like not scared to throw i just feel like now everybody is vomiting because we've talked about so much. And like in the midst of vomiting, they're just starting to scream. Let's put in the description too, like a content warning for throw up. Yeah, because some people have genuine deep fear of it.

I'm not laughing at it. I'm just saying we've really screwed those people over and I'm so sorry. After we do this,'s do like um let's record a quick like psa oh good idea good idea good idea and put it in front of the episode okay anyway thank you for everything emma for whatever you've caused for all people today yeah it feels like and you said i wonder is there an illness like this i wonder i mean probably some sort of food poisoning also just just to keep, I don't know. I will say on the Amsterdam flight they gave us, this is not going to help the people who

are feeling sick. They gave us egg salad sandwiches at like nine in the morning. And I was like, what a choice, you know, to get everyone on an airplane. Yeah, that's a bold choice. Yeah, it felt odd. When I was flying back from the Philippines, the food, some of the food was like really killer. And some of it I was like, you're so lucky i actually don't hate this food because there's some of it

is so controversial yeah yeah that's what i was that's the right word it was like wow what a what a bold choice like i'm sure half the plane is like what i wouldn't eat it i can't i can't stand egg salad. And vegans? I love egg salad, but even at 9 a.m. Yeah. Okay, so. I'm going to eat a McEgg salad later. And then throw up. This is called. Okay, so throw up talk has stopped now for people who have to fast forward.

This is called Coincidence or Cryptid, and it's from danielle she her hello m christine eva and all the babies fur flesh and citrus i've had small odd things happen to me throughout my life and childhood like things go missing for years and then be in the middle of the room one random day and the occasional feeling of being watched but i have never had an experience that left me truly unnerved like the following one. My husband and I try to travel cross country for a full month once a year in our truck and small camper with our dog Timber. We've camped in many places, some very secluded in the middle of nowhere, some in campgrounds with a lot of people around. We had never felt uncomfortable anywhere we've stayed.

On our road trip in 2021, we went from our home state of New York to South Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming. On our way from Montana south toward Wyoming, we stayed at a campground in Big Sky, Montana within the Gallatin National Forest. It was right off the main highway, but nothing else was around. No towns, just thick forest and this campground. The campground was pretty full of people nestled along a river. It was beautiful and we felt very comfortable and safe there. Our campsite was large with a lot of trees and a narrow dirt path through the woods to the river. We were only staying one night on our way through and settled in, had our dinner and went to bed. That night I had an extremely vivid dream that I was standing outside the door of our camper looking toward the back of

the campsite at the dirt path down to the river there was an eerily tall thin pale creature that could have possibly been a woman but wasn't standing at the edge of the path with long dark hair and no face okay literally i was picked i was expecting a bigfoot story this is so much worse like this is like 10 times worse this one feels evil like so bad so bad it was just blank where its face would be i hate the faceless ones the faceless one really gets me like i had a nightmare about that when i was a kid and i'm still skeeved by that she didn't speak to me i didn't hear a voice but i got the message in my head that she didn't want us there. And if we didn't leave, she was going to do something horrible to us. Oh, my God.

I told her out loud, we are only staying the night and we'll leave first thing in the morning. Please leave us alone. I promise we are just passing through. She didn't move or respond. This is creeping me the fuck out right now. Girl, I want to go back to the throw up story. This is my deepest. Right at that moment, I startled awake and sat up in bed to get my bearings. It was in the middle of the night and our dog Timber was growling ferociously like I

had never heard him do before. He had his fur raised up on his back going to all the windows and sniffing the air i had this ominous gut feeling something wasn't right and immediately jumped up and made sure our door was locked and i shut and locked every window parentheses as if that would save me in my little tin can of a camper from some cryptid or paranormal being i woke my husband up and told him i didn't feel safe here to which he just mumbled and fell back to sleep of course timber and i sat there in bed awake the rest of the night and as soon as it started getting light out i woke my husband's ass up and we left we didn't even make our coffee that's how you know they're committed to leaving also timber is an a1 since day one like

oh my god for real thank god you had somebody because your husband was not i would i divorce him actually just to be honest i would just like turn the key and drive away be like i'd be like well since you feel so damn comfortable here i'll leave you and timber and i stay with this fucking creepy lady needless to say i will never stay at that campground okay what's also creepy sorry to interrupt again is like that you dreamt you were standing right outside the camper like i feel like in a dream you're usually like in some random faraway place not like right there it's like they want to it's like they almost like you were like some it feels it feels like a by force astral projection into someone else's brain like they drew your consciousness out to talk to you. Which means even like in another realm, you're not safe

because they can manipulate you to do whatever they want, including see through their eyes into your camper. And like Danielle said, even if you lock the door, they're like, well, I can bring you outside anyway. Needless to say, I will never stay at that campground again. I would have brushed it off as a creepy nightmare if I didn't wake up to my dog acting like something predatory was outside at that very moment. I still get a tight feeling in my chest every time I think about it. I've tried to research the area and read reviews of the campground, but found nothing odd.

Have you heard of any creature or cryptid like this? Lots of love, Danielle. Oh, my gosh. I've only heard of like demons being able to do that. Yeah, it sounds like the woman thing by the water. Is there water? Was there water? I forget.

Sounds kind of like La Llorona, like, drawing you out. But the faceless and all that. I don't know. The peering into, the feeling like you're being, you're seeing through their eyes feels demonic. I mean, we just covered recently the Shaker's Cigar Bar, which, by the way, you and I have to have our own hot girl ghost hunt there because the amount of people we after every episode, we get some people reaching out to us being like, oh, I had an experience there. Shaker's Cigar Bar has blown my dms up really everyone has has been sending in their own videos or like there's glitches in the film and like everyone's freaking out um but at shaker cigar bar that happened happens we're in the basement oh yes people have been standing there and all of a sudden they can

they like black out and they can see themselves as if someone run toward themselves right yeah although i don't think this one said that they saw themselves i think it was just i thought they could see the camper though so they so she said she was standing outside the camper in this dream and she saw a woman in the distance who was tall thin had long dark hair and no face and this part reminds me of et like of an extraterrestrial i didn't hear a voice but i got a message in my head that i shouldn't be there you know how like that you hear those stories where like uh yeah you just can communicate yeah telepathically yes yes yes um so i don't think they said like oh i saw from the creature's eyes i think i just inserted my own fears into that sorry but that would be even worse

i mean if you if you're standing outside the camper if you just turned around and just looked in the window i wonder what you would have seen but oh no to just know that you're oh yeah to know that you're not supposed to be there as you're staring into a the non-face of a faceless woman is i can't think of something that i want to do less and the creepy part like imagine the next day like getting ready to leave and stepping out of the camper and being like oh last night this is where i was standing in my dream and like that's where the lady was oh i truly can't imagine no and danielle also says p.s if you guys ever go camping in the montana wilderness i won't especially after this but maybe yeah i hotel at best thanks we're glamping. Okay. Make sure you bring Gio to let you know when the things are lurking. But he will probably bark at a spider.

So I will probably be convinced there's somebody outside every five seconds. Thank you so much. Also, just to add even more fears to everything going on. What if Timber had the same thing? What if Timber was next to you in the dream? Yeah. What if Timber had his own experience where all of a sudden he felt like he was standing same thing like we're like what if timber was next to you in the dream yeah what if timber had his own experience where all of a sudden he felt like he was standing outside the camper and something scary told him not to be there yeah or was threatening you and he got protective oh

they can't talk imagine if animals could talk and all they wanted to tell you about were the like fucking shadow figures at the foot of your bed they'd be like there's another one and another one and another one maybe they'd be like how are you not seeing this i'd be like can you go back to not fucking talking i want this spell taken away yeah i regret this hex i put on you you know speaking of which let's just bring this full circle how i called you eliza thornberry earlier yeah imagine like you know how riverdale and there's all these shows that are reimagined but scary? Someone should do spooky reimagined Eliza Thornberry where she can finally talk to animals who are seeing the shit we can't see. Oh, no. And they're like, we finally found someone to save humanity.

And she accidentally, as the globetrotter she is, now her job is to travel to places to exercise homes with the help of her animal friends who can see what she can't. Okay, now we're talking. Let's get this rolling. Ding, ding, ding. It's too bad there's a strike happening. We got a... I smell a Hollywood brilliant idea if only Hollywood was kind to its people.

Yeah, maybe someday. Probably not. Maybe. Anyway, everyone remember that idea because if it ever gets used i was the first to say something yeah tm tm tm tm tm tm tm all right well we've got uh another story here and this is from katie who's is she her pronouns thank you for normalizing pronouns and the subject line is secret unsolved murder at my favorite dive motel oh we got a true crime there's been a murder also i i can tell you real quick i have a feeling that um katie has anxiety and here's how i can

tell you because the very first she listens to our podcast oh okay because the very first sentence is something i'd fucking say uh that says hello this might look long but i've appropriately timed reading it out and the story takes under four minutes stop this is literally us always but but like not on this show but in any other circumstance katie is giving the energy of someone who reads the menu before going to the restaurant so she knows what she wants for sure i love this about you katie uh katie says okay i'll try to make this short and sweet but you need some backstory my mom and i take trips together and we have this tiny little beach hotel on the coast in florida that we go to a few times a year

we stumbled upon it randomly and it's now my absolute favorite place in the world it's a little 1950s 60s single-story dive motel looking place where the buildings are painted pink and blue and the place is decorated with dolphins seashells and patio furniture precious i'll refrain from using the name but let me know if you want after you it's right on the water and behind the main office is a patio and tiki hut with chairs that overlook the beach. Every time we're there, we end up talking to the other guests and it just feels like home. This last time we were visiting, we were supposed to check out after night two. But for the first full 24 hours when we got there, it stormed and poured literal buckets. So we decided to stay another night if they had a room available.

literal buckets so we decided to stay another night if they had a room available we always grab my elderly aunt from the house in central florida and we've uh when we've crammed all three of us into almost every room so far i love this like tradition this is adorable i love that they're like come on aunt whatever like grab her i i know you have your own home and full of space with air conditioning and but you're gonna come hang out with us in this little back patio storm hotel so cute oh we've all been into almost every room however there's one room we had never stayed in before we asked the woman who runs the front desk uh if they have any rooms for the next night or two and she tells us yes there is one motel room unit that has a double bed and a futon and we should look to see if we think it's enough room okay i like how like you can tell this is a small business because they're like let me

just give you a tour of the place and you tell me what fucking suits you oh we got a futon does that work it's like here come look at the futon i guess i'm also a motel because i have a futon does that work so here come look at the futon i guess i'm also a motel because i have a futon so i guess you could stay here christina's probably 100 pieces of furniture in her entire house and i still say no no that weird little window sill like a cat is where i want to sleep and that's where everyone wants to sleep i'm like i have a perfectly nice casper mattress over here nope i like to think of one day and like something apocalyptic apocalyptic happened and then there were like tours of like everyone's home so you still live here everyone's gonna go to your house and be like but where's that window sill everyone took a nap spot you

i'm gonna start charging to and then i'll become king of apocalypse i'll be like it's two dollars to sleep in or give me all your canned goods if you want to take a nap on this little bench that'll be my racket that i run i would like red carpet that shit and be like no one's touching this it is now a shrine um okay so futon you can go check and see what you think of it um to our luck i'll literally sleep anywhere and i actually i have actually called a bathtub home for a night a time or two so we switched rooms and settle in for the night the next morning we head outside to the patio with our cups of coffee and whatever grocery store vacation pastry we had for the morning and settle in to watch a scheduled space shuttle launch from the beach a few miles down oh what this is i mean

built-in entertainment this sounds great we make friends, and this time with a man that we'll call Frank, and his daughter, who's in her mid-20s, that we'll call Annie. They stay at this hotel multiple times a month as a little vacation to escape some of Annie's everyday life health issues. This place sounds like a haven for so many people. It sounds like a magical, yeah, I feel like there's something magical about it. Small talk ensues as the launch gets delayed and we sit waiting in the sunny, salty air. We both become fast friends and even offer Annie our extra ticket for Disney World the

next day to come along with us. Oh, and then there's a little note that says, thanks, Frank, for trusting us with Annie and for loving her as much as we do now. That's really sweet. This is a beautiful story so far. I don't know where it's going to go dark. Yeah. Where's the throw up and faceless woman?

I'm scared. Frank then asks which room we're staying in. And when we say room eight, Annie chimes in and says, oh, the murder room. Oh, no. There it is. There it is. Wait a damn minute indeed i i need to hear more and the front desk lady is standing out there and pipes up something in the effect of don't tell them about that oh shit oh shit oh man i thought this girl was your homie but apparently she's

she was like there's a futon that's all you need to be focused on the futon turns out there have been a few deaths in this hotel it was built in the 40s and the most recent one was about two months before this trip in our room uh a woman and someone that they assumed was her boyfriend checked in under the woman's name and on the first night they were there something terrible happened the motel room has a small bathroom window that faces the tiny parking lot. That's maybe 12 inches by 18 inches. And someone was coming back to the hotel late at night and found the woman's body half in the bathroom and half outside slumped down the wall. Oh my God. Oh no.

There was blood everywhere. And after calling 911 and getting ahold of someone at the hotel, they went inside the room. The room was all disheveled and there was stuff everywhere. the main room area there was blood splatter on some of the cabinets and the door from the main room to the bathroom that was locked from the inside there were knife marks in the bathroom door like whoever was in the main room was trying to get into the bathroom and the boyfriend was gone it turns out she was bleeding out or she died from bleeding out after cutting herself in the glass window while trying to desperately escape oh my god

and how long did this happen before two months what i thought this was like the 40s oh shit which it blows my mind i know we are a true crime podcast that talk about things that are even very recent but it still blows my mind that things like this can happen today just like every day it's horrible so foreign to what should be happening uh one other room recalled hearing an argument but no one knew much more something must have ensued before she made it to the bathroom though because of the blood splatter on the uh the blood splatter on in the main room jesus christ the police and hotel tracked down the woman's family and they that and they stated they didn't know of any boyfriend and she was supposed to be on a

road trip by herself the death was so maybe it was like a hookup or maybe it was like by force maybe someone like told her like we're checking into this room yeah who knows uh the death was labeled an accident since she actually died from the glass causing her to bleed out i would find this story hard to believe but annie had pictures she had a girl she had become such good friends with the motel staff. I like how this poor girl has a bunch of health issues. Yeah, she's like, I need a break from my health issues. And the person at the front desk was like, I got a good story. You want pictures?

I got pictures. Seriously. She'd become such good friends with the motel staff that one of them had taken photos of the room and bathroom before they cleaned it up and sent some of them to Annie. Oh, my Lord. There's something not legal about that yeah definitely not i have searched and searched and cannot find any record of this on the internet and so has the staff according to the staff it's just a mystery and

someone from her family came to get her car a few weeks later but there's still no trace of the boyfriend and nothing was ever solved they cleaned the room and repainted the walls and life for the motel went on as normal i can only hope that this gets some resolution and the staff or annie keep me updated feel free to cut this if too long um that is so damn and you know what's so wild i know a few people in hospitality and they've all said the same thing of like if there's a death within like 24 48 hours later we're putting people in that room right they have a service they call and it just gets handled it's it's just what and i think about that every time we travel because we're traveling to talk about death and i'm like i know did someone die in here last night did someone die here yesterday like yep oh you have you have told me that and you've literally said oh i checked

the bathtub and wonder if people died in the bathtub like i'm i i'm so weird about showers and baths and hotel rooms because i'm like it's i'm just like naked in a space that like someone could have died it's a fair point i mean or like walking around do but i refuse to be barefoot in a hotel room because i'm like there could have been like residue of something only a few days ago on this carpet i mean i'm sure they like clean the carpets or whatever but like i can't get it out of my head and um i also in boston i ended up one of our friends actually lived in a hotel and so because i was friends with her we would her name was louise and yeah and she had like twin friends zach and cody um but they but because we were because she lived in a hotel she was friends with the entire like

concierge and would just like hang out in the lobby in the middle of the night and they would just like tell her shit like and i mean they probably are waiting for someone to tell you know yeah it was it's just wild how many hotel staff have to deal with like death regularly like their rj's brother is also in uh hospitality and i said like it would shock you how many people die in hotels all the time and like so then when i'm in a hotel room i'm like is someone dying next to me and i don't even know it like should i call the police and say maybe someone's dying i don't know i mean but that's a fucking gruesome one that's that's and for it to be like from in such a such a motel that's like seemingly known for how happy

and close and bonding it is and like yes was brutally murdered a kind gentle happy place um oh it's dark it's really dark especially being so small it's like the odds of it happening there are so small compared to somewhere with like I also feel like the staff should have and I'm not blaming anyone but I feel like in a place that seems so small

everyone would have heard what was going on and like I would imagine if you're gonna hurt someone in a hotel you do it in a really heavily populated space so right i guess maybe they weren't planning it it just kind of i don't know that's so fucked dude oh my gosh well i'm glad you're okay i hope nothing i hope you're still happy going there i hope i hope it didn't like ruin your cute vacation place katie maybe just don't go into roommate again maybe just like avoid roommate yeah yeah yeah oh so sad okay so this is our last story yes

this is called my parents met after my dad pled guilty to manslaughter of her boyfriend what what whoa okay this is from sam she her and it says hello spooky i have no idea where this is going hello spooky friends the story of how my parents met is one that often leaves people feeling shocked and awkward well i'm so glad we get to react publicly to it i know i like i feel like this is the last or the opposite of katie's like okay i've timed this it's under four minutes this one's like this one is like this is like chaotic neutral like this is this is a little too um like this should have been the first story so we had like a good one to end on this one this one we're not gonna have anything to end on after oh my All right. Let's let's crack into it.

Let's crack into it. There have been many opinions on my parents relationship. There is a lot of pain and trauma involved, but I'd like to say it has a happy ending. I've begged my mom to write an autobiography for years. She has promised she will after she retires in a few years. So TM, TM, TM. The story is a sprinkle of both Team True Crime and Team Supernatural. I'll try to make it as brief as possible because, again, my mom could write a book.

I'll add real names and cities at the end so you can personally look up the articles if you'd like. In the late 80s, my mom, who was 21 at the time, was in the hospital after giving birth to my older half-brother. Her boyfriend and baby daddy, let's call him Joe, wakes up from a nap and tells her that he had a terrible dream in the dream my mom was crying surrounded by people and no matter how hard joe tried no one would let him through eventually he is pulled away by someone and he wakes up my mom got an infection after her c-section so her stay in the hospital was extended three days after my brother was born joe is on a trip back to the hospital after visiting a friend he was driving on a 50 mile per hour road in his vw bug and a car on the opposite side of the road gets hit by a car and swerves into oncoming traffic crashing into joe

head-on unfortunately in vw bugs the engine is in the back of the car so the crash was fatal oh oh my god oh my god i have chills it also says here i still meet people who say this crash is the reason they never bought a bug oh my god oh my god at the time the person who drove into traffic was blamed for the crash let's call him bob no one could testify that Bob was hit before driving into oncoming traffic. Bob became a pariah in their relatively small town. His blood alcohol level was only 0.02%. DUIs are classified as 0.08% or higher. Bob was not intoxicated, but since he was 20 years old and hungover, he became the poster boy for underage drunk driving. So his lawyer encouraged him to take a plea deal. Four years in state prison.

Damn. Oh, my God. This is a crazy story. Amidst her deep mourning, my mom's old roommate calls her and drops a truth bomb. Their other roommate was actually the car who hit Bob. What? The roommate was, in fact fact drunk at the time she had secretly gotten her car repaired and was hiding it in their garage my mom was now not only mourning the loss of the father

of her child but now finding out that her once friend was responsible and letting someone else take the fall for it fuck what the this is some small town like hbo that's the most small town thing yeah it's like oh i had i had a car in a garage someone else in town you know it yeah oh my god he did it oh my god oh she says that this is like ozark level like finding all this weird web of people yeah my lord she my Lord. She says that for days, it was like Joe was telling her, call Bob. So this is the guy who was,

who took the plea deal. Yeah. She assumed that she was going crazy from her grief, but she remembered the dream Joe had had in the hospital. She kept hearing, call Bob, call Bob. Eventually she gives in and she calls bob he was still home

on bail during the trial she got his number from a friend of a friend parentheses small town she says that his voice just sounded so familiar even though she was sure they had never met she told him something along the lines of i want you to know that i know this wasn't your fault i know that a lot of people are saying terrible things right now, but know that my son and I will never blame you for this, and I know Joe wouldn't either. Okay, I'm, like, going to cry. Oh, my God. A few days later, Bob's lawyer suggests that my mom write a letter to the judge,

and she was happy to. She wanted the person whose fault this really was to be prosecuted. She meets with Bob, and being my awkward mom, instead of saying, I thirsty she says let's go somewhere where we can get something to drink bob says something like i don't think that's really appropriate considering and she realized how it came across got so embarrassed and said no i meant like a coke like mcdonald's they laugh and she realizes this was the first time she had laughed since joe had died i mean come on they went to mcdonald's and had a mick alfredo what was it

they had a mixed spaghetti spaghetti they went to mcdonald's and for the first time the pain she was feeling paused for a little while she realized realized she wanted to see Bob again. Most of her family discouraged her except for her eldest sister who said nobody knows how you feel right now but you and you deserve to be happy. Oh I'm gonna cry. So my mom asked Bob to meet again. After seeing him several times she expressed how she felt and Bob being awkward Bob didn't understand. Maybe no one in this position would understand. Like, what is happening? Everyone is telling you I killed your boyfriend, the father of your child. But like her, he was traumatized. After all, he got into a terrible car accident. He saw the face of a man driving head-on into him

in traffic. Then he woke up cuffed to a hospital bed and was told by everyone that he was a murderer. And suddenly there's this woman that makes all that pain fade away. Their relationship became a spectacle in town. Joe's family sought custody of my brother and demanded that Bob be sent to prison despite the allegations that another driver caused the accident. My mom's own family sided with Joe's family in the custody battle, all but her eldest sister. Bob was sent to prison 10 hours away and before joe's family could take away her son my mom was gone after a year of visiting bob in prison they got married the only people in attendance were bob's brother bob's mom and my mom's sister they call it a shotgun wedding because well it was in a prison

bob unfortunately had immensely traumatizing experiences in prison. He has never been the same. At 24 years old, he was released. He helped raise my brother and has been the only dad he has ever known. A few years later into their marriage, I was born, and they moved back to an area about 30 minutes away from their hometown. My brother has thought about getting adoption papers as a gift to my dad, who, if you haven't realized, is Bob. thought about getting adoption papers as a gift to my dad who if you haven't realized is bob but my dad has said i already took away your father i could never take away his name oh my god what is happening despite the deep catholic guilt my dad has my brother says joe may be my father

but bob is my dad okay also there's more to this but i just want to say too like i've heard so many stories i've been reading a lot of books about like the afterlife lately and i've heard so many stories where people's partners have died and then people on earth feel so guilty for like finding someone new and then seeking out like a psychic medium or someone and saying like i feel so guilty and then the psychic medium says no no your partner like sets orchestrated this yeah like orchestrated this like they they're happy for you they wanted this which it sounds like the call bob call bob you know from yeah i like how if that's true joe was gone in the ether for about five seconds and was like, all right, project one.

Got a job to do. It's like, damn, I already got tasks. Man, he needs a break. Okay. I mean, the fact also, like, I feel like we kind of, I may be glossed over it, but like the dream at the beginning where he says, like, I had this horrible nightmare that like everyone was crowded around you and I couldn't reach you oh my god that's just right before he passed away that's so scary oh god since the accident there has been a lot of therapy and

healed relationships all side of the family my mom's bobs and joes attended my brother's wedding in november 2018 that's really great great. I'm happy that they were able to put their differences aside. My brother has three beautiful kids and Papa Bob and Joe's mom enjoyed time at my brother's house at a July 4th barbecue. Trauma can't really be cured, but we can make the best out of what we have. At the end of the day, love will always be stronger than hate. Okay. I feel like Sam has already written the book. Like this is the book. Right.

You know what I mean? This is the book. Like you're writing the book. Hashtag and that's why I drink wine and milkshakes. Anyways, my family has many insane stories and deep dark secrets that have been uncovered from Mayflower alchemists that Unsolved Mysteries touched on, Sicilian mobsters that owned some restaurants as a front, and a poltergeist that did not like the religious artifacts in our old house.

Maybe I'll write them in sometime. But that's for another day. Story for another day. Thank you for everything. Your show has made me feel less alone because I've been able to discover that there are so many people out there with effed up stories too. Hashtag trauma bonding. Hopefully

you make it back to san diego one day if not i'll be driving up to la next tour stay spooky oh wow i mean my stomach turns at the thought of all of this it's it's terrifying terrifying it was it was better than what i thought it was going to be based on just the subject line because I thought like like like I don't know what I expected but it was not that so no no it I didn't expect it to have heartwarming I mean like Sam said I like to think it has a happy ending and I'm like no I think you're right like it does yeah definitely seem to have a happy ending but it sounds like a lot of trauma went into it yeah you know yeah wow oh my gosh well okay i'm sorry i actually am glad that we ended on that one i was scared for a second but that actually was very

that ended up being very touching yeah yeah yeah agreed wow well that's uh that's september for you folks that's a wrap oh next is october ah so the next one's gonna be spooky season oh my god wow i'm about to be so busy next uh next uh time you hear a lister's episode i will have all my tickets to all my things all my spooky events all my jump scares all my i will be like crazily like uh diying eight costumes because i can't decide what leona will wear do you have a feeling like are you leaning towards anything right now i'm thinking either like so last year she was a tomato and this year her favorite food is strawberry so i'm like i could easily repurpose that put some little dots on it make it a strawberry um yeah or i could do

her favorite show is gabby's dollhouse and i'm like maybe we could do a little like like a little pant like cat ears and i don't know we'll see we'll see that's very precious if i were to dress up as my favorite food i would have to be a buffet i think so i would you you can come over and you can stand side by side and i'll yeah i don't know make a buffet out of it a buffet i think i would have to lie sideways i have to lie sideways and just have a like something draped over me with a bunch of food velcroed to my side i'll just put a fucking tablecloth on you and yeah today oh well um anyway i hope everyone has a spooky september in my opinion it is officially spooky

season since it's fall season. That's right. And I'm glad you're back, Christine. I missed you. Oh, I missed you too. I'm excited for our recording Monday when we can kind of get more,

I don't know. Into the hot goss. We can bullshit more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why we drink.