And That's Why We Drink - Listener Stories: Vol. 84

Episode Date: October 1, 2023

Happy October, Boozers and Shakers! It's our time to shine and we're coming into October hot with some updated language for the Halloween season and some goose-cam worthy, scary stories from you, dear... listeners. Beware Eva's forgotten topic warning about Black Eyed Kids, haunted houses, ghosts impersonating moms, and past lives intertwining with Salem and witch hunts. To quote Owlameda Hootenanny, "WHO ME?!" ...and that's why we drink!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 happy birthday leona oh oh did you forget i forgot what day this comes out i actually did too okay okay until i said october 1st oh wait a second i was in a lot of pain that day two years ago you sure were and the day before and many days yeah exactly yeah um this is such a bit important day for me for all of us because it's halloween season october 1st what a great month but it's also our little uh our little darling demon's birthday so happy darling demon years old i like to think if um paparazzi cared about podcasters she would be known as the darling of demons or something that'd be precious she makes the face for it which is
Starting point is 00:00:58 like this like you know side eye be careful her. Her face is identical to yours. Exactly. And everyone's like, yeah, Christine, we've seen that our whole lives. So welcome to the club. And I'm like, oh. Yeah, you got to watch your words when you judge her face
Starting point is 00:01:13 because you make the exact same ones. I remember last time I was at your house, there was a moment where both of you looked at me the same way. And I was like, oh, my God, there's two of them. I hate it. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:22 That must be really frightening. It was like a curse was being put on me yeah yeah it's a hex um well yes happy spooky season oh are we should we do the psa i because i just caught myself that we are trying to get rid of spooky okay okay here i i feel like okay so what's there isn't a reason. I just feel like we should frame it in a more like I'm trying not to insult your the way you explained it as get rid of spooky,'t really realize for a long time has some pretty strong negative and racial undertones and can be tied to a slur. And so there was an article that came out recently that said, like, you know, before you use that term, you know, maybe learn, think twice, basically, was the was the point of the article so we are trying to get away from that term um spooky i know that like genuinely people just use it and we use it all the time um as just like a creepy scary i don't know so we should try to find a word that has that same like i don't know je ne sais quoi try to find a word that has that same, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Je ne sais quoi. Je ne sais quoi about it when it relates to Halloween. It's one of my favorite words, too. I know, it's tough. You've got to retire it, I guess. You've got to retire it. We've got to try to move away from it. I'm trying to figure out eerie, creepy.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I don't know the right one, the one that feels right yet. It's hard because it has its very own specific meaning, feel like that uh you know i mean as far as like the halloween related definition yeah yeah it almost implies like a little bit of like cutesiness to it like not cutesy but like well it does which is like the one of the backhands to it of like, oh, now it's cute. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It makes it feel extra weird.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yeah. So anyway, you know, it's hard. We're starting out. We're educating everybody this October 1st. So now you've had your I've had your first PSA. Now for the next 31 days, we are all going to practice and be experts by next Halloween for sure. So, yes, maybe we can say spectral i don't know okay i see where you're going i don't know if it's in the right direction but
Starting point is 00:03:52 i'll follow you in that direction yeah you could do spectral this is definitely um i mean maybe we can come up with a new word you know uh i don't know that you guys are cracking oh that's cute for sure it rolls off the tongue it's really cute and we can never say it again because i'm sure we won't remember how but we can try well for halloween season um i wanted to show you that uh i have been i'm trying to wear Halloween clothing for every episode. That is so cute. Thank you. For those just listening, this is a TikTok purchase, obviously. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I don't know about anyone else's algorithms, but it is viral on my phone. I thought I saw that somewhere. That explains where I've seen it. Okay. If it's not viral for anyone else it was viral for me until i succumbed and and you know i it worked but this is a it's a very simple embroidery sweatshirt of the three classic pillsbury halloween cookies yeah and i love her and my goal for each of our recordings in october is to wear something different in, I almost said the word, spectral. I know, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Something spectral. So anyway, this is day one of me trying to look all creepy. I see, I thought about it and I just couldn't, I don't know, I didn't pull it together, you know, on time. And I do apologize. So starting now, I will try to remember to wear the proper attire for our upcoming recordings. Well, we've already got that face. So you're fine.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Okay. All right. Relax. Anyway, if for some reason this is your first time ever tuning into a listeners episode, this is where we tell your stories that you send in. You know they've already left because they're like, what is this woke bullshit? Like, let's relearn our history. We came in very hot.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Look, we have a platform. And, you know, listen, it's mostly about educating ourselves as well along the way. So don't worry. We're not trying to be preachy. First of all, I apologize about all the times I've been interrupting you today. I don't know what's going on with you today. Listen, it's okay. I feel like I'm on a different plane than usual.
Starting point is 00:06:07 So I think maybe we're on different timelines. We'll find each other again. We always do. But no, I think we also, I at least use this podcast often as an accountability tool for myself. So I'm like, I said it to the masses, so I better fucking get it together. Yeah, we got to gotta step up you know um oh for those of you who are new here welcome to our listeners episodes where we tell your true crime and paranormal stories which you can submit on our website and that's why we drink.com and uh it's the first of every month and we've got a few
Starting point is 00:06:42 for you for you this this season and yeah i just want to point out eva beforehand kind of gives us like sometimes a little rundown um and she said because she picks the stories and we don't know them in advance and she said oh well i already accidentally like let it slip last time that this series of stories has and i was like eva don't say it again because we don't fucking remember it's like she's remember. It's like she's new here. It's crazy. She's new here thinking we heard what she said one time. Oh, I also realized, by the way, we've already recorded future October episodes.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And so people might be seeing this for the first time and we just never mentioned it. I have myself a little backdrop for uh the spectral season true yes you and very scary little situation with an owl back there owl oh by the way do you want to know what her name is oh uh hootenanny that's her last name i think now okay what's her first name so i got her at uh a cvs on alameda avenue so why do you shop only at cvs it's my favorite thing about you i just love her clothes your decor when i when i first moved to la and i uh was not as fortunate as i am today where i can go to target i really could only like at best go to a CVS on like a day where I wanted to be I wanted to be all shoppy and so also when I was in a moment where I
Starting point is 00:08:13 had incredible depression and so I was usually only up at 3 a.m so if I wanted to do any shopping it had to be at CVS yeah but um when I was not having good times and I lived near a CVS, every Friday I would treat myself to something in the toy section at CVS. So anyway, I've fallen in love with her. She's fallen in love with me. Story for the ages. But I found her, this little owl, at a CVS on Alameda. And her name's Alameda. Alameda. Wait, that's cute. Isn't it Alameda and her name's alameda alameda wait that's cute i love her i don't know i think it's alameda i'm not just saying street names to people all the time this
Starting point is 00:08:55 is the first i've ever had to say that loud i do think it's actually alameda i don't know well her name is alameda because oh so don't fucking mispronounce it because i'm doubling down so okay listen i'm not i'm just trying to protect you from i used to say tweets we don't really even have those anymore so i guess uh from from x i'm trying to protect you alameda it is alameda i think i've just oh i think i've always heard people say it so off the cuff that I just kind of just it's somewhere really Alameda until you have to say it out loud so Alameda is cute Alameda is cute whatever you want to name her as it is your owl I also thought about naming her Owlison but that was I thought that's where you were headed that's kind of cute too i like alameda or allison but alameda hootenanny is a great
Starting point is 00:09:47 hootenanny is a power move i love her hootenanny actually now that you say it that like together forget it someone write a write a book about her no tm i'm gonna write the book don't you dare alameda hootenanny living in burbank california that's the truth oh love it all right anyway we've officially yeah we've officially hit the 10 minute mark and i just talked for way too long so you go first oh okay uh happy birthday leona here's your first story this one is called the house on pine. Quote, that's not mom. Oh, shit. You can't listen to this yet. Alameda, cover your ears.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Alameda. OK, this is from Ash. She her. It says, hello, Eva, Christine M for babies, human babies, lemon insects in their abodes and the undead that haunt Christine. Sorry. It's OK. It's not your fault. babies lemon insects in their abodes and the undead that haunt christine sorry um it's okay it's not your fault so now that i finally caught up i'm not crying you're crying i think it's time to send in my stories the house i grew up in was so haunted that anyone who spent any time there experienced something we have ghosts demon dogs top hats phantom cats i feel like that should
Starting point is 00:11:02 that should get some more explanation, but okay. I feel like that's like that stupid Disney movie, the bed doorknobs and broomsticks or something. Oh. What's the movie? But it feels like just like. Like in Fantasia? Yeah, like a phantom hat. Just kind of swinging around.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Oh, this hat's just like coming to life and singing. I don't know. Top hats, phantom cats witches cryptids and finally the thing that pretends to be my mother oh my god that sounds almost scarier than fantasia so you're uh getting me good here ash oh it says my older sister and i had a swing set in the backyard and we're entertaining ourselves as my mother went to the store my sister gets my attention and says mom's home and she needs help i remember thinking it was strange for mom to park in front of the house but i ran inside all the same the phone was ringing so k went to the kitchen to answer it as i went to the front
Starting point is 00:12:00 door to help mom bring in the groceries except mom isn't outside and her car isn't here. I walk back down the hall and see Katie looking pale. It was mom on the other line, still at the store, wanting to see if she needed to pick something up. Katie said mom had come out to the porch, recognizable by her long blonde hair, and beckoned us in with her come here motion. She didn't remember seeing mom's face.
Starting point is 00:12:24 I feel like i've heard that where it's like a doppelganger doesn't like the face is almost too specific that like they kind of see i've always had from you i've always thought it's because the eyes the windows to the soul yeah right it's like they can't recreate a soul yes there's something recognizable there that they try to cover up our house has one long hallway that ends in my parents' room. One time I saw my mom from down the hall walk across her room and thought nothing of it until it clicked that no one can walk across the room as my parents had a massive bed that took up a majority of the space. One time during a break from college, yes, my parents still live
Starting point is 00:13:02 there, I was still on dorm time and was taking a shower at 2am. The bathroom is right off the kitchen and at the other end of the hallway from my parents' room. My father was out of town and the house was quiet and dark, so I easily heard my mom walk down the hallway and into the kitchen. As she passed the bathroom door, I heard her make a very distinctive throat clearing she does every time she wakes up. I dressed quickly and called through the door, sorry mom, I didn't mean to wake you. When she didn't answer, I knew I was in trouble. So I popped my head out of the bathroom and looked into the dark and empty living room, kitchen and hallway. The next morning, my mother confirmed that she had slept very soundly that night with no disturbance. Unfortunately, I was extremely disturbed. Yeah, I beg to differ. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:13:47 When I was very little, my parents had a couple come over for the evening for dinner and a movie. My father retired early to the bedroom, leaving my mother and their friends, who unfortunately fell asleep on the couch. That's Em coming over to my house. You know what?
Starting point is 00:14:00 Thanks for inviting me to the movie. Good night. You know what? That is the sign that you feel very safe at someone else's house and you're not strangers. These are real friends. Yeah. You're not like sitting on the edge of the couch. Uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:14:13 You're like waiting to go lounging. Yeah. It's like I found exactly the cozy spot. I don't give a shit who sees. Yeah. I don't care who bought this at Ashley Furniture. It's my bed now. And I also I love that both of them fell asleep. I'm out. I don't care who bought this at Ashley Furniture. It's my bed now. And I'm sleeping here.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I love that both of them fell asleep. I do too. I'm like, are these two people like, is this their MO? They just kind of bop around and nap at the same time. Right. Like they couldn't have possibly at the exact same moment, synchronistically, like both fell asleep. Like someone, someone saw that the other one already fell asleep and went well i guess i'm here too yeah like instead of being like honey let's go home
Starting point is 00:14:50 and go to bed it's like i guess we're both in down for the count so you're in i'm in yeah that just cracks me up uh wow what an interesting i wonder if they ever got invited back um i hope so it sounds like that couch was incredibly incredibly uh intoxicating mom had already seen this movie and since it was late decided to let them sleep and went to bed it's important to note that the early 2000 meant 16 billion remote controls for everything from the dvd player to the speakers i remember and then there's one for the fan and some people had one for the blinds. And some people.
Starting point is 00:15:26 It's like, oh, God. Well, everything's going crazy. Even like that. Everyone that was that grew up in the 80s or 90s has the like that one glass cabinet of all the stereo systems that like your dad never let you touch. Nope. There was like four remotes to that, too. So, yeah. And I'm like, did you ever even use that? I don't touch. Nope. There was like four remotes to that too. So yeah. And I'm like, did you ever even use that?
Starting point is 00:15:46 I don't know. Never. I don't remember a single goddamn time the thing was ever used. I'm like, I just want to turn the knob, but I can't even do that because everyone wanted to turn the knob. Anyway, so 16 billion remotes. My mother is not a patient woman and always opted to go to the TV and manually turn everything off.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Sometime later, Patty wakes up to use the restroom and wakes Paul as she jostles the china cabinet to leave. Paul sees my mother sitting across from him, her long blonde hair obscuring her face, highlighted by the TV she is facing. He says, oh, Caprice, I'm so sorry we fell asleep. My mother sighs with irritation and suddenly the entire entertainment center turns off. Paul stammers out, Caprice, really, I'm sorry. There is a pause until Patty opens a bathroom door flooding the living room with light and reveals an empty couch adjacent to theirs. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Did Caprice go to bed she asked paul knew the thing that had sat across from him couldn't be my mother as he didn't hear the delicate chime of china with her departure uh this is the last one but it says this is possibly the worst one say the worst for last you know how we do that last one felt pretty bad so yeah i'm not looking forward to this my father travels for work and during your father is always out of there he's like fuck this i don't want to see this dople ganger can you imagine living in a house where you don't know if your wife is your wife or a demon like i would never be there i'm going to bed also why is your mom so weirdly comfortable with this like yeah why are they still has she ever seen herself in the house is that why like she's like
Starting point is 00:17:29 just not freaked out i would like to know if she's seen herself that's a great question this is possibly the worst one my father travels for work and during the summer my mother would bring her sister and her five kids in from out of state for a week or more we were all thrilled and would set out pallets on the living room floor and eat junk food and watch Toonami. My mom and aunt would sleep in my parents' bedroom, my mom in her usual spot facing the closet, and my aunt and my father's facing the long hallway. My mother slept very little that night, hearing us kids creep down the hall as quietly as we could to use the bathroom, and the next morning my mom rolled over to complain about how active us kids were. My aunt looked over at her eyes wide and said, that wasn't the kids. She told my mom how something would start at the far end of the hallway and slowly walk down until the sound faded away. Then it would start at the end again, each time getting closer and closer
Starting point is 00:18:25 to the open door of my parents' bedroom. My aunt kept her eyes closed and tried to ignore it until it got to the very threshold of their bedroom and she heard the muffled sound of footsteps on carpet. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Oh my god. The rug barely extended past the foot of the bed. My aunt knew that whatever stood before her was not a child and she knew she shouldn't look, but curiosity got the better of her girl girl she peeled one eye open and saw my mother standing over her stop this is scaring me i actually hate this so much so afraid of caprice and her doppelganger also with a name like caprice i'm like you it
Starting point is 00:19:08 already sounds like something exotic phantom that you only read about in castles like clarice but caprice it sounds like it's part of a horror movie she peeled one eye open and saw my mother standing over her stiff and still long blonde hair and the face of an owl what the hell are you doing there with your french braids hanging over this poor lady she said girl i've known i was gonna be in this story the whole time she's like i've been waiting for my cameo okay it says okay thanks y' If you like this one, I have several others from the house on Pine, but that's a story for another time. Of course. Wow. Hey, guess what? That's terrible. I fucking hate that. Blaze is gone for five days and my parents are leaving town. So I'm home completely alone for the next five days. With a baby? With the baby. Yes. First of all,
Starting point is 00:20:03 that sounds scary on its own but also like blaze does it all the time because i'm always traveling but i'm not used to like him being gone for a long period of time and usually at least my mom comes over during the day to like keep me company but not this time is zandy home or something or is her sister is home so maybe i will drag him into my bullshit we'll see you. You're like, please come over because I... Help me. Because Leona, on her birthday, October 1st, keeps pointing up to the stairs
Starting point is 00:20:31 and saying, hoo, hoo. Hoo, hoo. Wow. And also the face of an owl really threw me because I just don't... I don't know if that means i'm trying to analyze it in my head and i feel like other maybe like it felt like oh i can show more of my true self because these people have seen me before versus those people who crashed
Starting point is 00:20:58 on the couch they i'll start easy on them and just make them think that I'm someone else interesting but even like the it seemed like they were just using her facade but not even trying to mimic a behavior or maybe it was like a black-eyed children thing where they know I'm supposed to stare at the tv I don't know how to react to like people talking to me though oh like this is me being a human I think yeah I, but that like, it almost seems like it's trying to show itself though. Like what does it want? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:29 Like it's hovering over the bed at night. Like it's getting in everyone's face. It's like appearing on the porch and summoning the kids in. Ooh. Yeah. It wants you to feel safe around it, which I hate. And why,
Starting point is 00:21:43 why isn't this goddamn mom involved like what what did she do to first of all be so cursed to be mimicked and doppelganged but doppelganged but also how like unlucky is she that like someone like is tricking everyone she loves i'm with her though i would be like it's not my fucking problem okay i'm in be like, that's not my fucking problem. Okay. I'm in bed sleeping. So it's not my fault. There's an owl version of myself walking around the house. I would like at least one time for like it to be her husband. She thinks she's seeing in the house. Like just so she knows how scary it is for everybody else.
Starting point is 00:22:15 But then again, the husband's never fucking around. So that would be a shock. He's traveling. So he's the only smart, smart one here. No, that's that was rude. I didn't mean it like that. He has the right idea. Let's put it that way. No, that was rude. I didn't mean it like that. He has the right idea. Let's put it that way.
Starting point is 00:22:28 That's what I think. All right. Well, thank you, Ash. That was terrible and scary. Thank you. What a terrible way to start Halloween. Thank you so much. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So this next story, I'm not even going to tell you the topic because I think you'll figure it out on your own. And this is from Alyssa. He uses she uses she her pronouns thank you for normalizing pronouns um and alissa says hello and that's why adrian crew long time listener first time submitter here i started listening during the pandemic and am currently remember that time when everyone called the panini remember when we thought that was so funny and then immediately it was like okay seriously we just want to stop talking about it. It feels like something that as like like it's like it gives millennial cringe. It kind of because I feel like it's just something that we don't discuss anymore. But it was so big at one point.
Starting point is 00:23:15 It was just like nobody even talked about how we did it. We just all did it. This all happened. OK. Anyway, I started listening during the pandemic and am currently re-listening to the episodes where christine is pregnant as i'm expecting my first daughter and hearing about someone else's pregnancy is making me feel a whole lot better and less afraid of all the craziness that is becoming a mom so thanks for being open and sharing on the show christine congratulations
Starting point is 00:23:39 so exciting for your own little demon your own little darling duchess of demonology whoa do you like that sort of we'll play around with it i'm trying to think how many d's can i get in there all right uh anyways here's my story i am a teacher so summers i have time alone in the house during the day when my husband goes to work and pregnancy has made me quite sleepy this has led to some impromptu napping and one morning i fell back asleep after my husband left with my sweet dog scout on the bed with me after just a few minutes of sleeping i heard a knock at the door normally i would just ignore it because true crime duh but for some reason my dog wasn't barking or freaking out at all and i
Starting point is 00:24:25 decided to go see who it was when i opened the door it was two plainly but well-dressed teens no m is this where no i don't want no no no oh my god that's what eva said i remember she said sorry she said there's a couple and i said oh there's no way we're gonna remember what the what the other theme was i still don't fucking black eyed kids wow thanks eva oh well well well well okay well i don't like it i don't like it at all when i opened the door it was two plainly but well-dressed teens with their heads kind of down so i couldn't really see their faces fucking shit i asked them what they wanted and they gave a vague answer i can't quite remember so i closed the door and went back to lay down in my bed that's when i woke up i had not in fact answered my door to see the strange teens. I had dreamt it. I felt relieved as it was a weird experience and lazily drifted back into sleep, back into the dream and back into fully believing that the dream was reality.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Oh, geez. That's some Nightmare on Elm Street shit. Now I like my little house, but the emphasis is on the little so you can see the front door from the bed when the bedroom door is open. Oh, terrifying. I can't imagine going. That talk about true crime, just like the true crime. The guy out front can just know exactly where you are. Not to give you the worst terror of your life, but M is just describing a nightmare scenario.
Starting point is 00:26:01 But also, I don't think that's good feng shui. You should move your bed. I don't even know anything about feng shui but i will say the vibes are definitely off yeah not to like make a pregnant woman move her furniture around because i actually like take down the wall and put it somewhere else that would be better you actually put the house uh in a different angle maybe just actually put the house for sale and leave oh okay poor thing i'm sorry so as i'm laying in bed in this dream world i can see that the front door is cracked open i know it's a dream but girl figure it out uh i think uh this is what i i think that's strange i better go close it before the pets get out so I get up and start
Starting point is 00:26:45 walking to the door as I walk my limbs feel heavy and I'm walking slower than usual that kind of dream thing where you can never run as fast as you need to or feeling or punch as hard as you can oh yeah that's the worst as I approach the door the strange teens from earlier are suddenly standing in the doorway and I can see their faces this time get away their eyes are nope totally black forget it i am instantly panicked and wake up again but this time it's just one eye that's terrible that's too much your one eye well you're the other one went fuck this i'm staying in dream world yeah that was the one i was like i don't think so oh i look around with my one eye open and as i realized it was all a dream again i tried desperately to remember what reality looks like and feels like as I can feel myself slipping back into sleep.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I hate that feeling. This is so scary. I wake up again in the dream and none the wiser that this is not reality and check the entryway for the black eyed teens. They are standing there totally still, just watching me with their black eyes. All the while while my dog is sleeping on the bed being no help at all i she's probably having sleep paralysis too girl like she's that poor dog oh man okay uh i slowly get up from the bed and start to move toward the kitchen in the hopes of arming myself with a steak knife here's what i think is like the silly part to this story if you were to watch it from like a
Starting point is 00:28:25 movie perspective okay it's like if your bedroom door faces the outward front door that's cracked and people can see you they're watching you get out of bed and tiptoe into another room to grab a knife this is an interesting choice to be try and be sneaky to grab the knife that feels like part of a comedy like a like a uh what's like a satire on a horror movie like a very shtick like a i don't know like it's like a three stages style you know scary movie that's like the satire on but i feel like there was a scene like that where she grabs a knife and the guy's like i can see you doing this i'm watching you do this um as i walk the weight of the dream nonsense is making me feel like i'm full of sand and i'm moving so slowly i start to sink toward the floor at this point my main concern is now my body something is clearly wrong with me i can barely move my legs let alone arm myself against the
Starting point is 00:29:24 intruders in my home. I'm contemplating if I should keep trying to get a knife or if I should just try to get back to my phone to call my husband because I'm clearly having a medical emergency when my fear wakes me for a third time. My one eye opens. Your brain is being evil to you right now, like keeping you asleep when this is happening. Truly. My one eye opens and i'm back in the real world but still paralyzed this time as i realized it was all a stupid dream i'm determined to stay awake as if it was the hardest physical task i've ever had to accomplish i managed to open my other
Starting point is 00:29:58 eye i'm looking around my bedroom and soaking in the reality making sure i don't fall asleep again and my dog springs off the bed and runs to the front door as he's whining and sniffing at the door i swear i can hear someone slowly walking down the squeaky porch steps and away from my home i finally moved my fingers and hands followed my arms and legs and i can sit up in my bed firmly awakened in reality the black-eyed teens from my dreams left in dreamland but then who was at my door is that it that's it oh for god's sake okay i know the fact that the dog was like somebody's at the door and it's like sniffing the door afterward nah i'm telling you i think the dog also had sleep paralysis that's what i'm thinking you both
Starting point is 00:30:45 were in a dream together i think he was just being lazy okay sure that damn millennial dog you know those lazy kinds dog oh that's really terrifying um and if uh i were you I would be traumatized. So, I'm sorry. There's really nothing like that feeling of, like, trying to get yourself awake. And it really does feel like the hardest thing you've ever done in your life. It's like you're just, like, quicksand almost. Like, ugh. It's also, it's so frustrating because even, there are times where I know I'm awake and I'm having sleep paralysis. And I'm just trying to, I think what i've been trying to do recently is like scream as loud as
Starting point is 00:31:31 i can because i'm like if i scream loud enough maybe and maybe if i scream as loud as i can this dream maybe my waking body will be like struggling and allison will wake me up allison literally sleeps like there's a thousand bricks on top of her. Yeah. It's so unhelpful because I feel like I can sense that I'm actually hitting her or something. And my hand's moving, but nothing else is. Fucking homegirl doesn't even care. I think she would prefer me to be fully sleep paralysis so she can just get a good night's sleep. But I'm fighting for my goddamn life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Fighting for my goddamn life yeah yeah fighting for my life uh yeah if i had a sleep paralysis about black eyed kids entering my home i genuinely don't know how i would recover i'd be so scared i i can't even imagine and like i also want to i wonder about ash like are you having sleep paralysis dreams and you're at home where your non-mom is just showing up? Oh, the doppelganger. Yeah. I feel like that's a prime place to have sleep paralysis.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And the aunt who saw the figure standing over her, that sounds very classic sleep paralysis. So I wonder if that was part of it, too. Oh, my God. OK. Well, why not? Why not just throw another fucking black eyed kid story in here because this is from abby i'm i'm being really mean to our listeners today i'm not trying to be yeah fuck you guys but also you and your lazy dog no i'm just i feel like i'm
Starting point is 00:32:56 being so insulting and i'm and like victim blame me and i'm really not trying to be um i think i'm trying to be funny and it's not working so i apologize but anyway this is from abby she heard it's called black eyed kids parentheses b.e.k spooky nightmare hi friends i'm currently on a re-listen of the early days and came across the b.e.k. episode where it triggered a memory of my most frightening nightmare at the time of the nightmare i had no prior knowledge of beek and actually had not learned about them until five years ago through podcasts parentheses hey thanks i sense the sarcasm coming through to set the scene before the nightmare begins we live in a
Starting point is 00:33:36 two-story house with my bedroom on the second floor just below my windows is where a first floor addition was therefore i could easily crawl through a window and be on the flat roof of the addition. There wasn't an easy way to get up or down without a ladder, though. Trust teenage me, I certainly tried. Cue the nightmare. It's evening. I'm in my room where, by the way, everything is normal.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Throughout the dream, my house is exactly as it should be, which isn't typical, at least for me. Usually there's some sort of wild dream, extra room or something, you know? There wasn't. So I'm in my room and I hear a tap on my window. I hesitantly walk over and move the shade just enough to peer out. I see a young girl with black hair and black eyes.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Bye. I quickly step back and attempt to scream, but this is dream world and i can't okay so these are like the same fucking dreams like you cannot react you have like no bodily control as these black eyed kids are trying to enter your home this is horrible that's wild because i always thought they could only invade your home not your mind well seems like they have leveled up yeah but this is dream world and i can't and i'm very aware that i can't in a panic i run for the door and find my mom i hysterically explain my fear and she being the kind mom she is replies we have to let her in oh my god girl no you what are you talking about? You're simply unwell.
Starting point is 00:35:06 That's what I would tell my mom. I would be like, that's not my mom from the first story. You're not my real mom. But also I would know it wasn't my mom because my mom would never just let somebody into the house. So are you sure like a little kid she wouldn't let in? I feel like she would. I think especially if it was a little kid.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Maybe not. She's like, I have time for this shit. She's like, I have a glass of wine I need to drink. I don't know where your parents are. I had a kid and I did fine. So it's like someone else's turn. It's like, I'm like, if you need somewhere to go, there's the backyard. But I'm busy in here.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Please go. Yeah, you can use the pool if you need to. Yeah. Immediately, I begin sobbing and protesting her horrible plan. Sadly, she won the fight and went to the window to let the girl in new dream scene i am now in our perfectly normal living room with my mom dad and this scary black-eyed kid girl i'm pleading with my horror movie and novel loving dad to understand why she cannot be here with us it is so obvious to me that this is the beginning of some sort of horror story, and I couldn't believe my dad wasn't on my side.
Starting point is 00:36:10 While I'm begging for help, Black Eyed Kid girl is sitting with my mom, staring at me with her black void eyes. By the way, remember, this just occurred to me and it made my heart sink. This dream happened to Abby before she ever knew what a black-eyed kid was. Remember? Oh, right. When I first heard about this concept, I heard about it on podcasts. I'm so terrified and angry that they won't believe me. My dad finally speaks and says says you need to get over
Starting point is 00:36:45 this she's staying now go and give her a hug honestly fuck it no honestly thank you you with all my heart lovingly fuck you like and respectfully you're not my real dad anymore bye well you know what that's making making me think of is like if this black eyed kid is in charge of your dream, they're directing the narrative of like, I'm here to stay, get used to it. I'm here to stay, get used to it. Now give me a hug. Give me a hug. I just want affection. Despite my heart beating nearly out of my chest and my brain screaming to run i oblige i slowly walk toward bek girl as she rises for the hug we embrace and as we do she digs her nails into my back and forcefully drags them all the way up to my neck as i scream and writhe in pain. Oh my God. I awake in the dark of my room, sweating and terrified.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I never opened that shade again. And that summer, while repainting my room, I accidentally, quote unquote, painted that window shut. It's been about 15 years since the dream, and it still gives me goose cam. Ick. I've tried to find any meaning, psychological or otherwise, behind it, but nothing really tracks. I really hope it's not an omen, though.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Thanks, love you, bye. Oh my god. I'm gonna have nightmares tonight just based on these stories, and I'm gonna feel like I'm haunted all over again. This is not good. These are... Well done writing them, everybody. that's all i gotta say god i feel eva going like having selected this although i do feel bad for eva sometimes because she's clearly seeing in the dark at home it's true reading these on her own
Starting point is 00:38:39 it's true there was a brief time where i did that back at the start of the podcast and i remember It's true. There was a brief time where I did that back at the start of the podcast. And I remember feeling very unwell after hours of digging through people's submissions. So I imagine it still takes a toll. OK, this is from Tori. He uses she her pronouns. Thank you for normalizing pronouns, Tori. And this subject is Salem Febreze ghost. Febreze. OK.
Starting point is 00:39:04 OK. All right. Hello,ze. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. Hello, M, Christine and Eva. I wanted to write in and tell y'all, uh,
Starting point is 00:39:10 the thing that just happened to me while in Salem. I was born and raised in Massachusetts. So that meant multiple elementary school field trips to Salem. Plus I performed in a monthly shadow cast of the rocker Rocky horror picture show, uh, in the witch city mall. How cool. I am no stranger to
Starting point is 00:39:27 salem but this was my very first paranormal experience okay first of all like i don't want to i don't know how scary it gets but like how maybe not lucky but dope is it that if you're gonna have a ghost experience ought to be salem yeah especially growing up and like i feel like it strikes me as it feels like tori's one of those people who like things happen all the time and she's like oh that's nothing and then like this is gonna be like a real ghost story where she's like oh my first paranormal encounter and it's like no you should know it yeah this past weekend was my birthday and my long-distance friend was visiting from Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:40:05 And when I finally figured out what I wanted to do, I booked us a room at the Haunted Hawthorne Hotel. I had always wanted to spend the night at this hotel and hope that something. Insert word that we're trying not to say. Spectral. Spectral. I always wanted something spectral to happen while we were there. Spectral. I always wanted something spectral to happen while we were there. Rumor has it that three and six are the most haunted floors, and we ended up on five.
Starting point is 00:40:37 However, we were across the hall from one of the most haunted room numbers, so I'll take it. While my girlfriend was in the shower before checkout, I went down to the lobby to get her a cup of coffee. And as soon as I opened our hotel room door, i was hit with a very nice but strong smell i saw the maid's cart to my left and figured that someone had just febreze the hallway or something when i get in the elevator the smell is just as strong and i finally figured out what the smell was apples which they do have an apple febreze that i liked quite a lot when it was out. Just saying. When I got off the elevator, I got the coffee.
Starting point is 00:41:13 She wanted it black, so I didn't have to do much. And it took less than a minute. When I got inside the elevator, the smell was gone. When I got off at our floor, the smell was gone. It was too strong of a smell and too short of a trip for it to have dissipated that quickly on the land where the hawthorne hotel was built once was an apple orchard of bridget bishop and bridget bishop was one of the first people to be tried for the crime of witchcraft and was found guilty and hanged on juneth in 1962? I don't think so. I think it's maybe 1762.
Starting point is 00:41:47 1962! Or 1662. Yeah, it says 1962. 1662. Apparently smelling apples throughout the hotel is something common that happens. Once I figured out that I was smelling apples in the elevator, I was shook. When we left our room, my girlfriend checked the maid's cart and neither of the febreze scents were apple well they're missing out on a prime opportunity there if they want to stock up on some apple febreze they could really get something going yeah if
Starting point is 00:42:15 you're the hawthorne hotel and the person who like used to be there wasn't was of the apple job in ken world her job is apple then like you know what i mean like make it make do something into it totally lean into it especially like during halloween like apple cider is like you know oh yeah and when your friend says i just want black coffee be like okay sure and then put like a bunch of apple creamer in it be like yeah just give her an apple actually and be like this is this is of the culture of hawthorne hotel so you can get used to it this is what you wanted right uh anyway thank you tori wow uh that is something i have you had a ghostly smell
Starting point is 00:43:00 experience before m i never can tell i really am so um i feel like smell is not my strong scent um interesting i feel like when i smell something it's only because something's either really good or really stinky and both times i want to know what the culprit is because i either want to eat it or avoid it um so most of the time if i am playing scent detective i don't think i've ever have come up with a mystery have you eaten the apple febreze is that what you're trying to tell me i've smelt it and it has made me want to go down and like uh go down to like a coffee shop and get apple cider i'm literally doing it right now because i kind of want some apple febreze is that weird no it's great it's a great delightful i um i just can't use it anymore i overused it and i used it for a while as like
Starting point is 00:43:51 my bathroom scent so now i associate it with like bathroom smells oh no yeah i always stick to like citrusy for the bathroom i'm like i don't want to go there you know ruin it for myself i uh when i come when it comes to like phantom smells though there have been you know this happened when i was at the beach with my mom where we both had the experience i really think someone just walked in front of us and we were just smelling their perfume but um my gammy who passed away she's had a very distinct smell and someone had to have been wearing something of hers but we both smelt it at the same time and went that smelled just like yammy and i almost ran up to the people in front of us and asked like what are you wearing so i can buy some and like always smell her but we lost them
Starting point is 00:44:37 by that time but anyway that was the last time i smelled something and it reminded me of a ghost that's cool and it could have been i mean if you had asked and they were like we don't wear perfume yeah we like to be stinky deodorant yeah wow that's that's creepy i've had some experiences do you remember that time i smelled something when we were ghost hunting and i made everyone stand there and you and Eva didn't smell it. I think that has happened quite a lot. Yeah. That is the only time. And I feel like it's always just like a quick waft of something. Um, it's happened to me at a haunted hotel too, where I'm like, who is smoking cigars in this place? And then I'm like, Oh, probably
Starting point is 00:45:22 nobody. Interesting. Okay. But apples would be a delightful smell. Oh, wait. It was at, well, we can't say it. It was where we just were. Yeah. And they said that you can smell cigars in a certain room. And you apparently really smelled cigars. I was like, I feel like someone just blew a cloud of it in my fucking face.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And then later that night, only I could smell cigars and you couldn't smell them and they blew it in your face it was one of those things where like it was creepy in the moment but like no one will ever see that footage because it doesn't like translate well that's the worst part about our tour is that like people get an hour of footage but we were in a location for like i mean when you add up both times it was like 18 hours or something of us being in a house how the energy of it and how scary it really gets you know to people who weren't there i wonder if we could do maybe we could start like a or like we go ghost hunting with people you know like a in-person tour can you imagine if we we did a competition and someone gets to go
Starting point is 00:46:26 ghost hunting with us? That'd be fun. I'm saying. I think that'd be really fun. I wonder what the competition would be. We'll shop it. We'll shop it. We'll shop it. This is called Hypnosis Experience
Starting point is 00:46:40 and this is from SheHer. Katie. Sorry. Katie. Hi, I'm Christine experience and this is from she her okay katie all right katie katie oh hi i'm christine and eva first off i just want to say y'all are my favorite i am a pediatric social worker and therapist wow good for you that's awesome although i love what i do we all need some time to decompress and practice self-care my way of doing that is listening to ghost stories and true crime with you guys how millennial of me lol thanks for being awesome i was super excited when you guys mentioned how you wanted to hear hypnosis experiences i've been so fascinated with hypnosis ever since i read many
Starting point is 00:47:15 lives many masters by dr brian weiss great book by the way as just a christina side um and you can get an audio book it's not not very long and very interesting. Fun fact, I attended a seminar with him and met him. He is such a cool guy with an amazing vibe. So while in grad school, I did a few sessions of hypnotherapy and a past life regression. I want to do that so bad. I have to say it was really helpful.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Christine, since you've mentioned that you've been wanting to do a past life regression, I'll tell that story. Yay. Perfect. Okay okay that works out very well for the the craving you just had seconds ago i mean look at this just right right in my path like a little like a little a little hmm puck watchy i don't know what goes in your path i don't know gemstone i feel like i'm have a gas leak in my house today i don't think i don't think the things i'm saying are sensible at all or sensical at all okay let me preface this by saying blah
Starting point is 00:48:21 blah blah let me see uh a passive regression okay i'll tell that story let me preface this by saying blah blah blah let me see uh a passive regression okay i'll tell that story let me preface this by saying ever since i was a little kid i have been terrified of fire and burning like lighting a candle with a match was extremely stressful for me i've always felt like i knew what it was like to die by burning oh my oh my god but meanwhile i'm like i used to like play with matches and like you know i probably shouldn't admit that on the show oh i played with matches quite a lot okay when you didn't respond i was like okay well now i look like the psycho but no here i'll look like a psycho i was one of those people who used to hold a lighter and then do like the aerosol spray it's like oh yeah yeah oh one time my mom caught me and i was doing in front
Starting point is 00:49:03 of my friends and she came out and yelled at me in front of my friends so embarrassing oh i never did it again yeah you know that's when you know you're in serious trouble i once caught my windowsill on fire um my stepmom has never forgiven me and it got melted all the paint off she's oh shit anyway i've been terrified of fire and burning i've always felt like i knew what it was like to die by burning but growing up in a very strict catholic household that would be impossible because i've only lived this life and have never been burned right additionally i've always been fascinated with witches i was obsessed with hocus pocus well still am so much so that my strict catholic mother told me once that she was worried for my soul.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Oh, wow. Anyway, I scheduled my first past life regression session after three regular hypnotherapy sessions and was super excited. A few days before my regression, I had this extremely vivid dream that I was a young woman living in the woods. I felt terrified as people were knocking on my door. I finally opened the door and was taken away by people and burned alive. I woke up and was like, what the fuck? It felt so real that I was grateful I woke up. So during my past life regression session, I felt myself getting very deep in the hypnosis.
Starting point is 00:50:19 The therapist led me through this, and although I can't remember exactly what she said, I remember becoming very present in a forest. It was in Europe a very long time ago, and I knew that I fled to live in the woods. I was a healer, but knew that it was dangerous and that people were threatened by me. I remember feeling abandoned by my parents, but due to their own fear of me. due to their own fear of me. Oh. Which is an interesting parallel that your mom said, like, I'm afraid for your soul and stuff if you're watching these witch shows.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And, like, in another life, they were threatened by you, maybe. Yeah. Weird, right? I remember feeling abandoned by my parents, but due to their own fear of me. What was interesting is that I saw my parents in that life, and although I didn't recognize my father, I recognize my mother as a previous co-worker in this life.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Can you imagine your co-worker becomes your mom? Especially somebody you don't like. Oh, that's like the ultimate punishment, man. You'd be like, seriously? What the fuck? Speaking of parallels, though, it would make sense that you would be with someone like in multiple lives and they would have the same type of characteristics of like, oh, we're going to like have disagreements and like do like tasks together. And like, yes, yes. That talk about like an uphill battle for your soul to deal with.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Oh, boy. OK. I recognize my mother as a previous co-worker in this life she always rubbed me the wrong way and although i was respectful i kept as kept as much distance as i could anyway the hypnotherapist led me through that lifetime to the last moments of that life that is when it hit me i was engulfed in flames i felt heat and pain was physically choking and coughing and literally saw the color red as my eyes were closed, almost as if there is a light shining in your eyes while closed and you
Starting point is 00:52:10 can still make out the color of that light. In the moment, I knew I was burned alive in that life. I suspected it's because I lived during the witch trials and I was a healer. What was fascinating and terrifying to reflect on was how real the sensations of pain, fear and panic were. Which is so fascinating because like if that hundreds of years ago that can like bleed into your current life that like pain and fear still which is just so jarring to think about. I don't know enough about this kind of stuff but if your past lives affect you today like it'd be wild if i mean i i can't imagine having something that traumatic happen in a past life and it still causing some sort of trauma or something yeah and as a kid you're already scared of fire like you're already traumatized you don't even know why i was also curious about whether the dream i had prior to that influenced the
Starting point is 00:53:03 regression at the time though i didn't put two and two together, and I really think that my subconscious was very open due to the previous hypnotherapy sessions, which led to me dreaming of a very real memory my soul had. If you're curious about if the regression helped overcome my fear of fire, that is a big hell no. Fire? I mean, I don't blame you. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Imagining myself, not even imagining, but like re-experiencing the memory of being burned alive would also not help my fear of fire so well don't the person the person doing the past life regression on you like the hypnotist like probably felt like oh you like accidentally caught your windowsill on fire in a past life but it's like oh no you were a which burned at the stake okay that is above my pay grade yeah it's above i don't know i haven't been trained for that one that's uh that's that's gotta be really rough wild fire is scary as hell nope it says fire is scary as well but i would imagine as hell also fire is scary as well but i feel like i have an awareness now and less anxious about burning alive or lighting a candle with a match, lol. Okay, well, that's good.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Like it lowered your anxiety about it. That's huge. I will say the hypnotherapy sessions I had for anxieties in this life helped tremendously. Can you refer me to this person, please, Katie, because I need help. 10 out of 10 recommend. Wish I could share more but that will have to wait for another day if you read this thanks for reading wishing you all the very best katie i want more of those stories more past lives please please christine's always loving
Starting point is 00:54:36 about the past life i just want to know and if you happen to be a cowboy in a past life there is a chance that she was in love with you just so i will leave my part no i'm kidding i still feel like i should do blaze like a service and like text and be like just come home just like a cowboy just or just try like you had the weirdest dream that you were living in the wild west in a past life let's just play a silly little game where like you know you come home with a you know your equivalent of like a steak dinner with roses and you're just like a silly little game where you come home with your equivalent of a steak dinner with roses, and you're dressed like a cowboy. I think you'd have a good time.
Starting point is 00:55:09 It's not that hard. Yeah, I think she'd feel wine and dined. We live in Kentucky. You can find you some cowboy boots. You can go to the boot barn down the road or something. There's like 4,000 of them. Come on. There you have it.
Starting point is 00:55:22 All right, this is our final story of october uh this is from nick who's a she her pronouns thank you for normalizing pronouns nick and the subject is the source of my horrific nightmares is a family curse oh good starts with good day good day i guess not so much anymore but yeah to start this off my family has a very strange affliction it runs through my dad's side and there are at least five living family members that deal with this affliction oh yikes at least you have people in you know in your cornerless company yeah you should all be in a group chat together. You should.
Starting point is 00:56:08 We sleepwalk. And now sleepwalking is a very small part of what happens to us because we wander, we talk, we act out our dreams, and it is generally terrifying for all of us. I can only really give you specifics about what I deal with because most of my family members don't like to talk about what they dream. I have extremely vivid and repetitive dreams from the time i was very small i have dreamt that there were unseen people near me oh i'm almost always in my room and i can feel them near me in the walls whispering oh i can never fully understand them and no matter how much i look around for them all i see is darkness sometimes i would hear them and feel them and feel that i was awake
Starting point is 00:56:48 oh then my bed would shake like i was in the exorcist and i would wake up screaming more than once i dreamt that there were pieces of dead people hanging from my ceiling huh in a grotesque mobile or mobile like the baby mobiles and all the pieces are dead body parts no no no no no no no and i have frequent visitations from a woman with no face she is probably the worst thing i deal with mom i was gonna say if she if she's listening right now make sure you're doing this with headphones on, because if you're near those walls that talk, she just heard you say that. Awkward. Hope you're in the car far, far away from your home when this comes out. Whenever I dream of her, I'm always in my bed, completely frozen and staring at a black hole in my ceiling.
Starting point is 00:57:41 black hole in my ceiling. She slowly climbs out of the, oh my God. She slowly climbs out one limb at a time and grows longer as she stretches down toward me. Oh, she's never touched me, but she always tries when I snap out of it. I'm usually drenched in sweat.
Starting point is 00:58:01 I'm talking change my pajamas levels of sweat. Oh God. Here's where it gets really awful i dream all of this while my eyes are open huh like sleep paralysis my body wakes up during these dreams but my mind does not i've been found running around my room climbing furniture and tearing things apart all while asleep. Oh, so you're acting this out. So you're acting out trying to escape her. This is dangerous.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Seriously. Talk about night terrors. Jesus Christ. Like, yeah. So here's the thing. I've been to doctors, as have some of my family members. And this parasomnia phenomenon is so strange that I've been told my family would be a good study yeah i would agree with that but also how sad is that to know that like oh this isn't common
Starting point is 00:58:53 and you're alone yeah well not alone your whole family's that's true but like if i had a condition and like people couldn't tell me like oh this is common even if there's no fix but like oh others are like you like this has to feel so isolating yes i would agree with that that sounds fucking uh yeah isolating is probably the best word your family could be a good study and then it says that's not how i wanted to get into a science journal i don't i don't know how many people want to get into a science journal, but I certainly don't. I would love to be put into a science journal as an anomaly, but not in a scary way. Just in like a, I'm so fabulous and funny and good looking that I had to be studied.
Starting point is 00:59:38 It's got to be some sort of a family curse. This is a one and done situation. Yeah. They gave me some anxiety meds and told me that that was all they could do spoiler they didn't help but they did help me stop being anxious about going to bed is that good or bad within a year or so i was having the same nightmares and leaving the bed again but now i had a harder time waking up because of the drugs oh okay i feel like the doctors should have warned you about that.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Yeah, that's something I didn't see coming. I feel like the doctors even didn't see that coming, but now it makes so much sense. Yeah. In the last few years, I feel like I have found, I may have found an answer. My dad was digging into our family history and was talking about our family name
Starting point is 01:00:22 and how it's changed over the generations. He was telling me that one night over dinner dinner he found some extremely old documents on ancestry that date all the way back to the early years of america and described an ancestor that once owned a sugarcane plantation in barbados after a big hurricane he left the plantation to become a minister in Salem. Oh, my God. My dad figured out that we are directly related to Samuel Parris, the minister who helped start the witch trials in Salem. And while I hate to think that anyone can lay a curse
Starting point is 01:00:58 on a family, it definitely feels like it. And honestly, like, if anyone was going get cursed oh yeah it was gonna be your family line sorry about that oh my god that sucks and i mean all these like this woman i mean like i imagine a the witch who cursed you maybe like trying to like reach out and grab you oh and also think about like the uh the owning the plantation like that can't be good either you know there's just so much bad there when i learned about it you are not your ancestors to be clear you know that would be bad news for all of us but no but it does feel like a bit of a reckless spell because if i could curse somebody's family line, I would hope that I made this the spell like specific enough where I'm like, but the good people are fine.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Like if you change your ways, you're on my side. I'd be with you. Yeah. The women are safe, I would say. Yeah. I feel like this is a job for Salem. I feel like you have to go there and like find descendant of that witch to unhex you. Who is the Salem one?
Starting point is 01:02:08 Salem. Tori. Tori spends a lot of time in Salem. Now we're just hooking up all our listeners. Oh my gosh. Okay. When I learned about it, I decided to try something. I began to write out apologies to the woman who died. I was so desperate and tired
Starting point is 01:02:24 of having dealt with the horror of my dreams for so long. I just had to try. I couldn't keep waking up absolutely shaking and sweating with my heart pounding, standing somewhere that I didn't go to sleep. So I wrote to every single girl and woman I could find through my research who had been accused. I put them in a box under my bed. And the cat sleeps next to it sometimes that feels very witchy why it does and it stopped i still have weird dreams
Starting point is 01:02:55 sometimes where i wake up sitting upright but i don't hear whispers i don't see the woman with no face and i haven't had any dreams of bodies piling up around me maybe it's all in my head but maybe somebody heard my apology anyway i love to cuddle up with a sewing project and that's why we drink in my headphones and your stories keep me company and keep me thinking that a little respect could help ease some old pain so i don't think i'll ever visit salem though okay so ignore okay well that part's not happening but what about a well maybe not either but maybe a past life regression you know with uh yeah was it uh i'm trying to i don't want to get the names wrong with with katie katie yeah take you in and you could learn you know
Starting point is 01:03:35 maybe what's some uh well you know what's so what's interesting is that like i feel like i don't know like i i think for the story it's absolutely it feels paranormal but also like even i feel like that could be a good psychology study for anyone of like oh if you're having bad dreams maybe like talk to the dreams like face them head on so like i feel like that alone even if it wasn't a paranormal thing, that's a great point. Would have been good for your mind of like address it head on. But yes, that's a great point because they've said like
Starting point is 01:04:11 they've studied this, like the more you push something out of your thoughts, like the stronger it gets in your subconscious. So maybe like running into it was a great idea. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:20 But I also think, I mean, this feels paranormal to be clear. I'm not trying to like discredit. No, no. Yeah. But I feel like no matter what, I feel like it's a good reminder that like if you have something you're scared of in the dream world maybe try to face it and see if anything changes yeah maybe there's a a reason um like maybe you're related to a really bad man oh my god but like that would be devastating i like as somebody who's crazy it constantly struggles with my like uh familial history and just trying to get to grips like it's that's a
Starting point is 01:04:55 tough feeling like oh that's runs in my blood you know like that's got to be just really rough so i um not i don't know about a paranormal way but uh my family line at least on one side is pretty terrible through and through ever since we came to the u.s and i guarantee before that too so i'm always like what metaphorical demons are chasing me and now i'm like oh this poor person actually has real demons well Well, not witches. Sorry. They're not demons, but you know, has it has some real demons in the sense of like, they're haunting you from the past. Yeah. Oh God. But wow.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Okay. That's a, that's a good ass story. That's for sure. You should tell it on a first date and see like what happens. Yeah. Maybe with some of the people we just set you up with. There's a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:44 That's true. We just tried to set you up with there's a lot true we just tried to uh set you up with a bunch of people well how about that those that was one good pile of stories good job eva round of applause for eva good job that was spooky this is like such a it was spectral christine ah you're right see i mean, listen. I'm learning. I'm learning. Thank you for keeping me accountable, Em. Yes, this was a very spectral episode.
Starting point is 01:06:14 It was very good. So, like, every story was juicy and actually freaked me the fuck out. Yeah, I actually am. This doesn't happen that often anymore just because we talk about stuff so much but like i'm actually a little bit nervous for my alone time this weekend i don't envy you although i am currently non-stop well you know what's so creepy i was um i was in here yesterday before we recorded our episode yesterday. And I came in here. Something was fucking going on.
Starting point is 01:06:47 I don't know what it was. I don't know. But it was also right after I set up this whole little bit. So I was like, uh-oh, what's going on here? Yalamita, what were you doing? She was pulling a hootenanny. She knows all about that. She's like shaking her head back there.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Nope, wasn't me. Who? Me? Who, me? But no, I felt something real fucking creepy in here and i like had to like give like a whole little lecture out loud and be like whoever is here if i did not know and love you in this life you have to get out of here like you gotta go not it not not the energy i'm looking for something didn't feel right i don't know if it's because we're coming up on spectral season or if there's something in the air or something's in retrograde.
Starting point is 01:07:27 I don't know what it is, but something felt real creepy. I don't know. Okay. So I'm already on edge and these stories really sent me over. Maybe it'll stay with you then because I'm not feeling like I want to be part of that today. So maybe you can keep it there for now. Thank you. No.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Great. Enjoy your baby in the middle of the night, like saying mommy down the hall when like she does actually literally because she sleep talks now. Did I not tell you that? That's a fun. So she got that from Uncle Zandy. Is that what that is? That's exactly right.
Starting point is 01:08:01 And the other day I heard her go, here you go, mommy. And I was like, but like on the camera the camera you know my favorite thing that i have gotten to experience a couple times now which to preface christine is happily a mother and loves her baby very much but i can tell when you're like just in like sleepy mom mode and on the phone multiple times now, I hear, hi, mommy. Hi, Leona. Hi, mommy. It's exactly right. The whole family now is like, hi, baby.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Hi, baby. Hi, Leona. Because it's like her favorite thing. And she says it if she's like, like sometimes I'll say like, Leona, we don't draw on the couch. And she'll go, hi, mommy. It's sort of her way of being like, oh, I didn't do anything. Acknowledgement from any direction. But it's the funniest thing to hear you just like. It's like when I'm on the phone, it's like how a dog gets like really in your face because they realize you're paying attention to someone else. The second like you call me, Em, Leona's like,
Starting point is 01:08:58 hi, mommy. Hi, mommy. I know. I hear it the whole time. It's like it's just to watch one of my friends who like, I knew you way before you were a mom. And now you're just like, in some moments you do have the trope of just like a fucking exhausted mom. And it's very funny because I just, I just hear the defeat. You're like, hi, Leona. And it's funny because at school now she tells people her name is baby because they'll be like, they all have to say their own name. Like, you know, just to to learn each other's names. And every time, all her friends at school, like Montessori, call her Baby. Because she says her name is Baby.
Starting point is 01:09:33 They're like, what's your name? And she says Baby. What if it's B-E-B-E? Bebe. Bebe. With an accent. All right. Well, go enjoy.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Well, hang on real quick. Let's end where we started okay october 1st what are you gonna do for this little birthday coming up she's a little hungry caterpillar did you get the invite oh yes i just got the invite and uh i obviously unfortunately won't be able to go but i'm trying to come up with i i'm going to a wedding that weekend so oh well that's fun um but i was trying to think of like um what i can get her for her birthday and i can't do it i looked everywhere so i'm just gonna tell you to your face i tried to find a way to send you um a i guess essentially a kid's charcuterie board but it looked it was it looked like the hungry caterpillar and it was all the foods that he eats.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Oh, get out of town. I tried so hard. I tried so hard. That's the cutest thing I ever did here. But if you want to steal the idea for the party and make the hungry caterpillar out of the foods that he eats, and then it's like a little kid buffet. Well, you should see my Pinterest. It's out of control, really. It is. So you will be seeing a lot of photos of that. I feel like the Hungry Caterpillar was one. Is it the Very Hungry Caterpillar?
Starting point is 01:10:51 It's the Very Hungry Caterpillar, yeah. And it's the Hungry Hungry Hippos. Yes. Okay. I always felt like I identified with that caterpillar more than most books. It's like salami, ice cream, pops and i'm like yes yes yes i get it never know but also i so like this is the party i want to go to because this is where the rule is it is all food focused yes oh eat your heart out well i cannot wait to send you photos of like
Starting point is 01:11:23 are these pictures from my instagram or for my Pinterest of like what I'm planning? Because it's ridiculous. I can't wait. I'm so upset. I'm not going to go. I'm so upset. What is it? Her favorite book?
Starting point is 01:11:34 Are you just picking it for the theme? She really likes it. She has it in German, too. And then there's a game on her tablet that she plays where it's a hungry caterpillar game. And it's like little fruits. Is it snake? It's on my old Blackberry. Actually, it's snake.
Starting point is 01:11:53 How do you say very hungry caterpillar in German? Oh, God. I want to say the right. Because it's ridiculous. Okay. say the right because it's ridiculous okay which means the small caterpillar who's never full ain't that the truth yeah i know i was like relatable well happy birthday to your little baby this is also birthday month for you like you said so i hope you have a very spectral happy birthday halloween you too and it's al's birthday coming up we got some libras whom we love and i hope all the libras have a
Starting point is 01:12:34 happy birthday and i hope the scorpios don't no i'm just kidding i don't i do i'll say it christine wishes the best for scorpios that's how we'll end it let's just leave it at that next time we see you it will Let's just leave it at that. Next time we see you, it will be Scorpio season and I'll be real fucking better. So can't wait to see you for the next listeners episode in a month. And that's why we drink.

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