Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - 50 Cent on Diddy/Jay-Z Allegations & Real Reason for Drake’s Lawsuit

Starting point is 00:00:00 It's a long time come we got to go we got the king of New York and the man who got everything on his Christmas list this year Alex Alex told me that back in the day you guys ran him off his corner I was just saying! He said, he had a little corner in Far Rock, you know? Yeah. He was like, oh no. We was in high school, had a little couple corners, and just one day, a few dudes from Jamaica was on the corner, and it was like, jiu-jiu-jiu, and I was like, ah, y'all got it? Man, let's go into it, bro? Let's go into it, bro.

Starting point is 00:00:46 Goddamn. Donald Trump calls that the weave, bro. No, we've been doing alright. Things have been doing pretty good, you know? 50 Cent pulled up to the show at Madison Square Garden. Things worked out after that. It worked out. They didn't need me there. It was so loud.

Starting point is 00:01:04 So I was a surprise. He's so low. He's mine. I'm gonna help him. Walk like this, yeah, I'm in the right place. I know I'm in the right place, but I ain't had to do nothing. Everybody is here. Bro, it was crazy because I had no clue what to expect.

Starting point is 00:01:17 I didn't know you guys were gonna do like a show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's a real show. I wanna perform for you. Look, there's certain guys that, you see how you came to HumorHarmony?, it's a real show. How I perform for you, like, look, there's certain guys that, like, you see how you came to HumorHarmony? Our relationship is a little different.

Starting point is 00:01:29 If he doesn't fit in for me, I'm gonna return the favor, bro, like, that's not gonna be a point that I don't. Now, I will say, you did that even before I did anything, man. That's love. Yeah, and I'm looking at it going, nah, it's cool, because I'm a fan of it. Respect, respect. But I don't understand what got into you

Starting point is 00:01:44 that made you say you was gonna fuck Kendrick. Whoa, whoa, whoa! I said, fan of it. I'm a fan of your work. But I don't understand what got into you that made you say you was gonna fuck Kendrick. Whoa, whoa, whoa! I said make sweet love. Oh, sweet love. I registered for it. No, no, no. No, no, we wouldn't do it. No, it's not, look, you know what?

Starting point is 00:01:55 I apologize, guys. Yeah, it's less fun. This is your camera, right? This is from years and years of trauma. This comes from abuse from the neighborhood that I grew up in. This comes from a lot of different things. And this makes me love. I heard fuck when you said it.

Starting point is 00:02:16 Yeah, that's the people. It was aggressive. I don't know why I registered that way. And then look, for people to write petitions behind it, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. That is crazy, because I mean, look, you're saying, look, I follow comedic culture, I watch comedians, I enjoy them on another level. You are a comedian.

Starting point is 00:02:33 Yeah. Right here. What I appreciate about it is they are invincible. When I watch them, I look and I go, there's no point that you can do something that actually damages what they develop. What they build. Like, you know, like they go, like, in any case, like, Cat Williams can fight a 15-year-old kid that is his height.

Starting point is 00:02:54 And not do so well. And he is still... I didn't like the decision on that one. I didn't like the decision. I didn't like the decision. That one. I didn't like the decision. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't like the decision. The rest still. Why would that happen? That was 10-8.

Starting point is 00:03:07 That was 10-8. That was close. It was close. That's one of those ones where you need a duel. You know what I'm saying? But it does no damage to Cat Williams. He's still that guy. I was watching Jamie Foxx's new piece, right?

Starting point is 00:03:18 Yeah. He mentioned Cat in it. To me, it meant that he had to be relevant enough for Jamie to include. It was like, and I didn't know what, like I went to laugh. Like when Andrew's gonna do something, I'm going, I'm already, my mind is prepared

Starting point is 00:03:33 in addition to laugh. I'm waiting for the punch line, it's gonna come. And I'm usually never let down. Jamie's show, that shit put me on a roller coaster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, blastin'. I'm always talking about crying. He went to a coaster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm just talking about crying. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:47 He went to a place, I was like, oh, man, like it was like my eyes was emotional. Got emotional, right? Yeah, I'm like, what is going on here? You were supposed to make me laugh, I'm not sure I'm prepared to be doing all of this extra feelings and stuff. It's true, it's true.

Starting point is 00:04:01 You gotta talk to that fool about that. I'm like, what did you just do, bro? That's inappropriate, he's trying to make you cry. Yeah, he's just, Atlanta, like, you gotta talk to that fool about that. What did you just do, bro? That's inappropriate. He's trying to make you cry. Yeah, he's just Atlanta. Like, he made everyone in Atlanta feel like they saved his life. I said, yo, this is deep.

Starting point is 00:04:15 Like, the show was very well put together. Doug told me he cried. Shout out to Jamie, by the way. What a comeback Fox left him. Yeah, yeah. Doug told me he cried. Jamie Foxx is doing it. Nah, it was real.

Starting point is 00:04:24 It was intense. Is he the most talented human being? You know what? Watching that, it was periods of talent. I saw him doing... When he did the voice piece, he does those things and then he had the... It was almost a living color back when he hit. Yeah, you saw him do that.

Starting point is 00:04:41 And he got into the Django things, the shows, they show periods, they show pieces of the work that's been done over his entire career. And then, like, cause he was saying the clone piece, like the, it's called the clone. You know what I mean? He tied that in there crazy, he was like, yo, I don't know why I thought he was gonna say more

Starting point is 00:05:02 about Buffy. People said it, it was like, yeah, that they were gonna blame him, yeah. Yeah, yeah, and I thought he was gonna say more about Puffy. I think people said that. Yeah, that they were gonna blame him. Yeah, and I think that was great marketing. What's... Oh. You used the Puffy thing, get us all to tap in. Because it's what everybody's talking about. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:05:16 And then everybody's looking going, wait, so I thought he was gonna say more about, nah, I don't need that. It's about Jamie, it's not about that. That was smart. What's happening with Puffy? I know you're not really tapped in, but what... The last thing I saw was like a guy there. He was like, yo, he like pushed me into the truck and really hurt. And he started munching. Like he started munching. I was like, yo, look, I can find other things to do for money.

Starting point is 00:05:40 Side, side, side. Did you see the video? I can find other things to do for money. But I'm not sure I can say that for money. How much is this guy trying to get? I don't know. It's a simple situation, but it's like... 20 mil, I can say. You still have the blackest face out. You still have the midget voice, because he's like, damn. But his voice wasn't even that different. I was like, almost like, no, that's you, young buck.

Starting point is 00:05:58 Oh, come on. I almost knew it. I was like, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I had to mimic his voice because he's like, but his voice wasn't even that different. And then a little deeper, I was almost like, no, that's you, young buck. Yo! Almost thought it was him. I almost knew who it was.

Starting point is 00:06:10 Yo, man, I was like, nah, that's a fucking truck. Yo, you can't say that dudes are having sex with other dudes, bro. They're coming up right come for you. You know what I'm saying? You know what? Young bucks, they make sweet love. That's young buck breaking right there.

Starting point is 00:06:23 Let's make sweet love. There's rules to rap beef now, bro. Not in your day. Well, I'm saying like, God, why is your homeboy so close to you when you come out of that? Look like you guys just made sweet love. I'm gonna say sweet love instead of anything that's just... To me, that's better,

Starting point is 00:06:38 because they're gonna try to make it something else, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was smart. Like, I, you know, I didn't think about that. You know, I say things to the Florida line like I'm like oh my god you're in trouble you got close when he offered to take you shopping yeah you see now Mika's in the same shirt he's out there in the same shirt

Starting point is 00:06:59 holy shit stop it you set that up I'm just saying. No, no, stop. Stop it, bro. You set that up. He's in the same shirt. What do you mean he's in the same shirt? Obviously was not offended by what I was offended by. This is what I'm saying, bro. I mean, I'm like, nah, it was odd.

Starting point is 00:07:22 This is some of the things that people say, like, girls, guys may say to a girl, you know, I mean, I'm like, nah, it was odd. This is some of the things that people say, like, girl, guys may say to a girl, you know, like, uh, uh, you go, let me take a shot, see? Damn. They found it that quick. What do you think's happening in the middle? I don't know what is going on here.

Starting point is 00:07:35 Wow, they found Kendrick and wifey. That's the shit. That's the shit. Wow. You can't dress up Kendrick like that. Oh, you can't dress him up like that. No, he's junk. He's junked it. That's like the White Chicks movie, bro. You can't dress up Kendrick like that. You can't dress him up like that. That's like the White Chicks movie. You can't do that.

Starting point is 00:07:50 That was comedy. I'm good. You get away with White Chicks. Obviously, doing shopping. They got the same outfit. That's true. That's a nice shirt. That was a nice shirt.

Starting point is 00:07:58 All right. So when he said the shopping line, in real life, what did you say? I said, Oh, let me get away from him. Because it was like he was like, Yo, you hot now. Now we got to hang out now. Like, you know, like hang out. Hang out. Yeah. He said, I don't know. Maybe I take you to shop and I could just flash and you can give me the like the whole shit. And I was looking and I was like, let me just move away from him because I'm gonna mess up the wedding. I always

Starting point is 00:08:24 say to myself because I'm it to mess up the wedding. I always say to myself, because I'm- It was someone's wedding? It was Chris Lighty's wedding. He was in Miami. Norrie's dead. Norrie knows this. And I looked at him like, yo. You heard what he just said, right?

Starting point is 00:08:39 Norrie's like, yo, certain things didn't let it go by because it's puff. Like, they would look. Like, he would say stuff. And it's like, he wasn't like in the closet. He was like, yo, certain things, they let him go by because it's puff. Like, they would look, like he would say stuff, and it's like, he wasn't like in the closet, he was like in the hallway. Now you see so much shit, you go, wait. Yo, this was visible, guys. He was in the hallway, we saw the video.

Starting point is 00:08:56 We saw that video. He comes out later, he's like, that's not the closet. He didn't give a fuck, right? You could tell that he was already. Nah, New York is dope, because when Fab, he was like, yo, Fab a sloth. He didn't give a fuck. Like, you could tell that he was already... Nah, New York is dope. Because when Fab, he was like, yo, Fab, we ain't party party. Fab was like, no, we partying or nothing. And my lady came up, she's like, no,

Starting point is 00:09:13 but he didn't party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, yo, they let that one go? Like, I had to say something to the body later, because I was like, oh, it was very just... What did it feel like all these years? You being the only one calling this out? I look like the crazy, I've been the crazy guy for a long time these years, you being the only one calling this out? I look like the crazy,

Starting point is 00:09:25 I've been the crazy guy for a long time. They say that you're a hater. They say you're a hater. You're a hater, you do this, yeah, and now everybody's complaining, my ass is hurting. All right, there's all this shit that's coming. Fentanyl, you can't make jokes about it. No, no.

Starting point is 00:09:38 The internet might come for you, bro. All I'm saying is, you see it now, all of these complaints, people were damned, they were in pillaged. They were on TV. This is what was going on. Right? What do I get for this?

Starting point is 00:09:53 I went through years of a hater. You're a hater. You want this and that. I'm just watching. I look at things and go, when you see the new lawsuit coming with Jay, the part with Jay, I go, oh, shoot. Like, then I think about it, I go, oh shoot. Then I think about it, I go, that had to be there.

Starting point is 00:10:09 So when I was saying that he was missing, he just wasn't actively being out there because they was dealing with that. Wait, do you think there's truth to the Jay thing? There's no way. I don't know, like if you say, I have this thing where I'm conflicted when it takes you 20 years to remember

Starting point is 00:10:25 something happened to you. Yeah. Okay. I just, I don't know, I go also 10 years, 20 years later, it comes back. And it's like all the problems are coming from the ministers touching little boys, which you mean. The laws are the way they are because the...

Starting point is 00:10:47 Because they're Catholics. Because of the priests. The priests touching little boys. Oh. Why the hell are we looking at me, bro? I just go to church. I just go to church. I have nothing to do with this.

Starting point is 00:10:56 I'm an alibi. That's why the laws are allowing you to go that far back. Why did you turn away from me right there, bro? I'm just a Catholic kid. He said you've been dead or something. No, no, no, no. What's the body of Christ taste like? It's sacrilegious. You can't do that.

Starting point is 00:11:12 He's like, yo, drink my blood. So this crazy one after 20 years they come out, that shit is foul. But with Puffy, you were the only one saying anything for decades Yeah, cuz we had our own little thing, but you were the only one. Everybody else is scared. Huh? But everybody else is scared So you think maybe this is a similar thing. Everybody else is scared. I don't know what it is I'm just asking. Yeah, I think they're scared. But if they scared then maybe that's what I'm saying. But you've been insinuating Jay-Z a little bit Yeah, like you've been saying people gonna come for him a little bit. No, no Like you been saying people gonna come for him a little bit. No, no, I can't, he would do funny funky stuff

Starting point is 00:11:46 like the Super Bowl. Like it was not okay for me to be at the Super Bowl. Oh, he tried to cut that. Yeah, he didn't want me to, well they worked to make like there was an issue with me in the NFL that doesn't exist. So he did the corporate way of trying to keep you down. Oh, it's not me, it's them.

Starting point is 00:12:02 It's them. And then when Em says he's not gonna do it if I'm not there. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. What's your and Jay's issue?

Starting point is 00:12:12 It's just competitive stuff. It's really just competitive. This is what I'm saying. When it gets past actual art, like actual music, and you're trying to block something that's in business, then it feels weird. It feels like we should be having beef. Mm.

Starting point is 00:12:26 Oh. OK. So that's the behind the scenes thing that we don't see. It's one thing when there's like people talking about each other in music. Yeah. But there's behind the scenes business deals that a guy is getting involved with on the side.

Starting point is 00:12:37 And it's not like you're going to go public and be like, they tried to stop my viking in water. You know, this deal. And you go, he said that to you? Like, I don't know. Oh, wow. I get that. And they'll speak to your You know, this deal, and you go, he said that to you? Like, I don't know. Oh, wow. I don't know. They'll speak to your temperament,

Starting point is 00:12:48 like say, you know, 50 is a little crazy. He'll say anything. You see what saying anything did to Karjik. So they're trying, he's basically trying to scare people out of doing deals with you. Interesting. And then Em shut it down and he was like, yo, it's gotta happen.

Starting point is 00:13:01 If he's not coming, I'm not coming. And then it changes the whole thing because he really is the biggest one. Yeah. Like, you know, they can say what they want. Yeah. But we go to the stats, the actual numbers. The numbers don't lie.

Starting point is 00:13:12 They know the numbers. Yeah, he's the biggest one. And that was before the days of the bots and all that shit. There's a, you know, M obviously speaks with you with high praise, but there's a few videos that I see and everybody talks about how funny you are, they talk about, obviously the album's all a success, but like Eminem specifically talks about your rapping skill a lot.

Starting point is 00:13:31 Is that mean a lot? I'm like... It does. Look, he never left that part of the creativity. Like he would go back, when you don't see him, he's back, he's in his regimen of the studio. Yeah, yeah, yeah. back when you don't see him he's back he's in his regimen of the studio. Yeah. And this is why like he kind of they can't you can be as good as him but you can't really

Starting point is 00:13:50 beat him at that because you have to put all your energy there. And you're just not gonna do it once these guys get famous they leave the studio. And they go and the thing that makes him feel good is he, yo you heard what I did last night and it gives him that again. So if that's really what's driving you, it's really tough to be better than, and some of them may have a gift, and it may be a God-given talent

Starting point is 00:14:15 that they can rap the way we speak, but they don't work as hard as him. It's like Kobe Bryant was outperforming people because he would work harder, conditioning himself to do it. And other than him, I don't think nobody is. Who's the most talented rapper you've seen, period? Just talent, natural born?

Starting point is 00:14:34 This, well, maybe Craig G. Like when an artist can freestyle without thinking about anything and it just all falls in line and sing. Sometimes they can end up rapping so it's so easy for them that they don't know exactly what to rap about. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, technically it's good. And he even emminem because I remember those freestyles where they would just give him a word and he just has to go and go and go.

Starting point is 00:14:57 He can do that too. Sometimes you miss like the connectivity with the music. Like there's songs, there's comedy, where it might not even be like the most perfect joke, but it makes you feel the thing. That's wrong. And that's better to you. That it connects. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:13 Oh, and look, a lot of times, if there's no truth to it, it's not funny. Yeah. It has to have some sort of connection that is grounded in truth, but it's almost a warped perspective being offered by the comedian. The timing, the way it comes in. And I look at it, I'm like, yo, nah, it's good. That's great. Like, you know, and you see things like the white party be there and

Starting point is 00:15:34 then they have a little baby like in a sandwich. They're hugging him from the front and the back and stuff. And I'm like, yo, get off of him. That's my favorite new artist. I go, get off of him. I don't heart. My favorite new artist. Yeah. Like, yo, get off of him. I don't want him going to those scarred parts. What's up with the hugging pictures at the white party, though? What is that? I don't know, bro.

Starting point is 00:15:51 Every picture is a little bit. Why is everyone so happy to be there? I'm like, this is regular parties. People don't just hug each other. You had to sit in four hours of traffic to drive in there. I'm like, come on, let's have a group hug. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is like, look, I'm going to shake your hand.

Starting point is 00:16:03 Hey, what's up, man? Everything good? Yeah, everything's good. He dressed it all the way down. Hold on, baby. That's crazy. I'm telling you, it was too much fun. That's crazy.

Starting point is 00:16:10 It was a little too much fun. That's just white boy shit. That's why it's the white party. It is the whiteest party. Nah, I was too happy to have him there. Too happy to have him there. And then, baby, he's gonna- What is going on in the one on the right?

Starting point is 00:16:21 That is insanity. Dude, that's just- Both of them, he looks like he's unzipping his pants. Look at the one on the left. Oh, come on. Come on. Goddamn. This is bad.

Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah. This is bad. Do you call him? Will you call him and be like, yo, listen, you're brilliantly talented. No, I wait till I see them, but I go to them. And you go chill with that shit. I go to them.

Starting point is 00:16:38 And I go, yo, come here. I'm like, what happened? Like, I asked him, because I'm like, you know, I'm a fan of the new artist. I watch watch him and I'm like, yo, he got the it factor. He got that thing, little baby. I like him. Guys, quick tour announcements.

Starting point is 00:16:52 Hawaii, I'll see you guys in a couple weeks, man. Marc and I will see you guys out there. And Dove's coming out, the boy's coming out, Val is coming out, and you never know who's going to come out in Hawaii as well. So we'll see you guys at that show, the Blidesdale Arena. Can't wait, that is the final show of the life tour, until somebody says they'll give me an extreme amount of money to do it again.

Starting point is 00:17:15 So this will be the final show, man. We gotta go out with a bang in the amazing state of Hawaii. Love you, appreciate you. see you guys there, peace. All right, kucky cuck boys, it's daytime. I'm taking the rest of this year off, but I'm back in January, January 9th through 11th. I'm gonna be in Tampa. Indians are already scooping up those tickets quickly,

Starting point is 00:17:35 so you better hurry up and buy. Also January 23rd through 25th, I'm gonna be in Sacramento. I promise you those tickets will sell out. I am not bullshitting you, those tickets will sell out, so hurry up and buy those. January 31st and February 1st, I'm gonna be in West Des Moines, Iowa. I don't know if anybody's buying those tickets. I don't know where the fuck Des Moines is, to be honest with you. I barely know where Iowa is.

Starting point is 00:17:57 Is it the Midwest? Is it Western? I don't know. I don't think it's near Pennsylvania. I know that. But I'm excited to go. My travel agent, Sudeep Shah, Travel King, will book the ticket for me. I got no fucking clue what direction that plane will I know that, but I'm excited to go. My travel agent, Sudip Shah, Travel King, will book the ticket for me.

Starting point is 00:18:06 I got no fucking clue what direction that plan will be going in, but I'll be there. Also, February 21st through 22nd, Brea, we had to reschedule shows from earlier. They are now February 21st and 22nd. February 27th through March 1st, I'll be at Zany's in Nashville. Those shows will also sell out, guys.

Starting point is 00:18:22 Buy tickets, your boy's selling out now. That's just what it is. AkashSingh.com, look how cute my eyes are on the website. Buy your tickets, let's get the sell out, guys. Buy tickets, your boy's selling out now. That's just what it is, akashceng.com. Look how cute my eyes are on the website. Buy your tickets, let's get the fuck out of here. Do you think it's starting to happen where the people you beef with, because this is what I always say,

Starting point is 00:18:32 if 50 don't fuck with you, I don't fuck with you, I don't know why yet. We gotta wait and see. Dude, that's what I always say to everybody, if he don't fuck with you, you got a reason, we gonna figure it out sooner or later. Do you think that's starting to come to fruition? The public is starting to realize, oh, maybe he doesn't fuck with you, you got a reason, we gonna figure it out soon. Do you think that's starting to come to fruition? The public is starting to realize,

Starting point is 00:18:46 oh, maybe he doesn't fuck with these people. Because of this. Uh-huh. Lifestyle stuff, the thing that they're doing is not, because that was also the hardest influence. What you mean? Like, the parties and everything with Puff, it's the hardest influence to get people there.

Starting point is 00:19:01 And then, you know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So now he got you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because you were all the way out of pocket, right? Yeah. Everybody didn't know that. And then you know what I'm saying? So now he got you. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you were out of pocket. Right. Everybody didn't know that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:19:13 Now you gotta be cool now. Don't ever go against this. So they're blackmailing with like a booty. Kind of like, look, you see now you pressing Bieber. Yeah. Yo, what's up? Like, I'm calling you an instrument. Yeah, that was a little, that was crazy. That was weird.

Starting point is 00:19:29 They did not run through Bieber at that point. They was pressing him like, why you not answering your phone? Like, yo. Like, I don't got a video of me fingering you. He wasn't answering for a reason. He was like, I don't ever want to answer. Because you did things to me.

Starting point is 00:19:43 Yo, fuck. But that's what you did to me. Fuck. But that's the, you know, you can see how it kind of leverages. I guess it's the same thing with Epstein, right? What else would you do? Oh, 100%. But you've never wanted to be like in the In Group. I've never seen your entire career. No.

Starting point is 00:19:59 You didn't start a more beat with everybody. I've been out of the In Group before I got here, right? I was already kicked. There was already had relationships with John and all these other people. Yeah. So they was already connect, like what we would call the artist community, was already connected to that.

Starting point is 00:20:13 So I just came and was creating my own bubble. Yeah, you were a disruptor. Of things, and I wanted to just help other artists that I signed to the label, I felt had something to build them up at different points. And then it was like, it was a period that Jay retired. Yeah. He had retired and went to go work at Def Jam.

Starting point is 00:20:32 Yeah. And then he did the slickest thing I ever experienced. Because where we from, you're as strong as the crew that you build. So you look out for your people. And then he just, he didn't build the crew, but he went and took Def Jam's crew. So he went and then he came back with him, Beyonce, Rihanna. But he still has people around him.

Starting point is 00:20:57 He still got like Tata and Afidah, and BD, and Blake and that. And that's just the real crew in my mind. Alex will ride for Jay-Z no matter what. Oh yeah, I'm a huge Jay-Z fan, but I'm also huge. I'm a New Yorker, so. He might be lower than you if you didn't run him off his course.

Starting point is 00:21:12 Yeah, if you didn't run him off his course, he'd probably be all over. You saved my life. I probably wouldn't have. You know what I mean? Turn down that mic. All right, hold on. I always want to talk to you about this.

Starting point is 00:21:22 When we were in Boston, we got to talk a little bit. But I want to know the beginning. Yeah. What's always to talk to you about this. When we were in Boston, we got to talk a little bit, but I want to know the beginning. Yeah. What's always impressed me about you is this understanding of the human condition. You understand people, you understand what they're afraid of, and not always like fear of their life,

Starting point is 00:21:35 fear of shame, you know, fear of public perception. Like, so, and the first thing I asked you, I was like, I just need to understand. At what age are you starting to figure this out? Oh, that was, it's younger for me, like in 12, 13 years. You said 12, 13, you were starting to even put together your own crew.

Starting point is 00:21:55 Yeah. Right? Because the West End didn't have requirements, like the neighborhood didn't have an age limit. For killing drones. Yeah. For snow. How much of it can you sell?

Starting point is 00:22:07 So who are you getting it from at that time? Who's your connect? I would be watching the structure that was around early on. So it was like a lot of the guys that they see at B-Food, they were part of the influences early on, like the Supreme Team, different dudes there. Those different areas, they would all be there and we'd kind of see how things, things didn't just happen randomly. Right, right, right.

Starting point is 00:22:28 So you told me this interesting thing that was cool. You were leading your crew, you're young, some of these guys are older than you. Yeah. How old are you? This is teens. 13, 14.

Starting point is 00:22:37 Oh, fuck, all right. And then you said you got locked up, you went to juvie. Yeah. I was in like a spa fit, like a juvenile detention center. Okay, gotcha. And then you said when you came out you weren't like the top of the your role wasn't the top But you still needed them to respect you. Right so I wouldn't what's it name?

Starting point is 00:22:52 I wouldn't when you told me about this when I got back from shop. Yeah, I had done boot camp Six months in a military boot camp. I've done therapeutics, God-given me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, to care and to change the things again. There was no difference. Hi, my name's Curtis Jackson, I'm a medic. Wow, you still got it.

Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah, you don't forget those things, especially when you haven't been fucked up by drugs already. So if you've been listening, this is something they would do every night at house meetings. Like you come in and they would all go through the cardinal rules and things and they would read that off. It's the serenity prayer. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:25 And like I would go through that, KSAC, all of their different therapeutic things, projects that avoiding longer jail synthesis. Yeah. Because if you go through all these things, then you don't end up locked up. You don't spend as much time. So then, you know, from that,

Starting point is 00:23:41 you kind of become a little more observant of people. Like in those facilities, they like drop slips, they tell, they start to tell on you. What do you mean? Like you just came out of jail, and now that you're in the shock program, in the military boot camp side, they're like, he skipped steps. He did this, he did that. And you like receive punishments in exchange for those different things. And I wasn't adjusting well.

Starting point is 00:24:05 I had plans to sell drugs when I got home again. So I was like, who's telling on me? Before you know it, it's like they would do things to turn the entire platoon against you because they go, okay, everybody drop. And then have you just dead. So now everybody's, the smoke breaks over, drop. And they're doing pushups now

Starting point is 00:24:28 and you're just standing there chilling with your cigarette like, you know what I mean? Then everybody's kind of looking to, you do something wrong and watch. And it starts to, you know, do different things. I would do things like I would volunteer to work in the kitchen. Okay.

Starting point is 00:24:47 When my platoon had the detail and then I would like sit next to like the beats, like the worst shit that people don't want. You can't talk when you come into this. So you come in and they go pop, they go into pro wrestling and they go to position of tension and then they move up. So the mess hall is really quiet and they come through and then you got to use your hand like this, this or this. You know, do you want a little bit medium or a lot?

Starting point is 00:25:09 Like a ditty party? Yes. Do you want a little bit? How much bass do you want? So they would do that and I would wait for them to come and I would put the coffee cake next to the beats. And I know you want the coffee cake but when I didn put the like coffee cake next to the beats. And I know you want the coffee cake, but when I didn't like it, I'd just give you beats. So this is interesting.

Starting point is 00:25:31 You're managing leverage at this point. At that point, yeah. I'm just going, I know that they want the, this is the only sweets that they're giving us. So they're going to want that that and then I put the piece next to it, I go in the kitchen and I get back, you drop the slip on me, I'm not saying I'm just, cause if you don't eat it, they're gonna make you wear it.

Starting point is 00:25:52 Oh. Oh, wow. So now you gotta eat these shitty beats with this coffee cake. Or they gonna put the shit all over there, it's gonna fuck up your whole coffee spirit, coffee cake spirit. They're gonna eat these fucking nasty ass beats

Starting point is 00:26:02 that they playin'. Yes, fuck you, since you wanna put me in slip and drop slip shit. And I'll find ways to do shit back to them without doing anything back to them. Okay, so you're doing shit back to them, but you're also getting them to do what you want. So you understand there's a leverage play.

Starting point is 00:26:16 How do you, that is absolutely, in every situation. So you leave the camp, you come back, how do you signal to your team, like you told me this great story of how, like you weren't making that much money, but you were giving it all to them so they knew that you were still the top guy. Yeah, yeah, because I would, we were going,

Starting point is 00:26:32 when we was backing up, they was giving, gave like $1,100 a piece, so it's like four people in there. And I'm in there, but everybody in here used to work for me. So I can't take this $1,100. So I can't take this to $1,100. So I'm saying it's 20, 20, 20. Now I don't care about that. Let's just do this like this. So I kept them still viewing me as the boss.

Starting point is 00:26:56 Because if you're making the same money as them, they're gonna start to view you as. We're the same. Yeah. Wow. So you're sacrificing, you're not making anything so that they know that you're still. I would tell them just put two grams on the side,

Starting point is 00:27:07 each one of the bags while you bag the thing up and then if we need it, we go to that. But if you're doing it, so that, and anything that was left over, I just would take the whole leftover. You know what I'm saying? But I wouldn't take the money that they knew was. So then when they try to get them to go to bag up without me,

Starting point is 00:27:22 they'll be like, no, we're boo boo. Yeah. They don't know they get, we're boo boo. Yeah. They don't know they get more if I'm there. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And then they're going, well, yeah, yeah. I'm coming, we're boo boo. Why you keep asking for boo boo?

Starting point is 00:27:35 So is people's loyalty usually tied to self-preservation? Absolutely. So even in the jail thing, it was just like, I want that sugar. I want that coffee cake. I got to be nice to this guy or else I'm not going to get that thing. thing, it was just like, I want that sugar, I want that coffee cake, I gotta be nice to this guy or else I'm not gonna get that thing. Yeah, oh it's just.

Starting point is 00:27:48 Bagging up, it's hey, I wanna make more money, I'm making more money. I'd rather do it with him then. Cause when it's there, he better. It's always better when he's there. Yeah. Like they're looking and they go, nah. Then it took, even in that,

Starting point is 00:27:58 when I had accumulated the work, then it came back and it was like, dude, and then it was right out. And then they would, it came, it was like, I was like, yo, the DA looking for Bob. I said, oh, my name's Curtis. That means he's not looking for me, buddy. All right, so they ran out of town

Starting point is 00:28:17 and they thought there was no work there for weeks. There was no work there for like a few hours, like two hours. And then you were able to get something else going? Oh, I just changed the top. So just changed the capsules, put them right back up. Wow. Two hours later, they came back. By the time we came back, I was strapped.

Starting point is 00:28:34 Same type of corner thing. Yeah, yeah. Like. Yeah. Yeah. We weren't that sophisticated. We did what we did. So OK, so you're doing this thing, like, and again,

Starting point is 00:28:44 I don't want to incriminate, so if I am doing that, you stop me, but like, how do you escalate? How do you grow the business? How do you, you're an entrepreneur at this time, like, I'm sure you're looking at this, you're like, okay, do I get more territory? Do I sell more people? Do I get it for a cheaper price? Like, what is going through your mind?

Starting point is 00:29:00 How do you scale being a drug dealer? Yeah, like, how do you- You just move faster. You move more faster. So if you get bigger, the pieces got bigger. I was giving away more drugs for the money, but the clientele was drawing it off the other corners. So I was like, they were pulling everybody to that corner because it was so much more.

Starting point is 00:29:18 They were getting more for their money. And it's like- So you're giving better deals. And expanding. Expanding. You gotta open a franchise. Yeah, you're like Amazon for crack and everybody's coming. And expanding. Expanding. You got to open a franchise.

Starting point is 00:29:26 You're like Amazon for crack. That's the vibe. Amazon is a great model to look at because you see that they'll curate the sales. Then after they get the sales, they say, give me a deal with FedEx and UPS. And then when they don't give them the deal they want they just okay we deliver it ourselves because we got all of the trans guys loyalty is leverage yeah yeah interesting okay how to rob i'm i grew up in new york city i remember the direction of how to rob it was the first disruptive in my opinion it was like the first disruptive rap record. I'm gonna connect it to something very weird, but do you remember the Blair Witch project

Starting point is 00:30:09 that movie came out where we didn't know if it was a real project or not, right? And you had to go to the movie theater because you're like, this is so fucking different. I've never. Nah, it's crazy. Yeah. And it was like, it wasn't very expensive, Blair Witch, neither. Nah, and that was part of the charm because you're like, yo, it might be, that's what I felt how to Rob was.

Starting point is 00:30:26 The energy was like, what the fuck is going on? In the culture, it was almost taboo for you to say someone's name. Yeah. And you said everybody. Everybody gets his jokes, though. That's awesome. Everybody gets his jokes, though.

Starting point is 00:30:39 OK. But you came with How to Rob, that was after you got dropped, right? Yeah. How to Rob was, that happened. got dropped, right? Yeah. So you were like, upset. How to Rob was, that happened. So wait, you got shot first, then dropped, then How to Rob. No, no, How to Rob came before I got shot.

Starting point is 00:30:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What happened is, with How to Rob, I was approaching the release date, and they were like, Columbia was dead serious, gonna just throw it out. You know, and that was desperation. It was. Desperation for what? What was it? If I didn't do something that command attention,

Starting point is 00:31:12 it would come out without any attention surrounded. And you didn't want that to flop, you didn't want that. No, I'm subject to the same thing. If that worst scenario came from me saying people's names, it would be exactly what I'm subjected to in Southside Jamaica, Queens. You see what I'm subjected to in Southside Jamaica Queen. You see what I'm saying? If there's no greater risk, I could already get shot.

Starting point is 00:31:29 So if I say everybody's name, I got the same. Oh wow. If it doesn't work, then I go home to that and that's there, that's what's gonna be there. That's a great risk calculation. It's like I'm already afraid of that. I'm already dealing with that. Subjected to it regardless.

Starting point is 00:31:43 And then you're going, okay, so if this doesn't work, then, so I got to take the shot that makes everybody see or notice that I'm here. When did you know that it was bubbling? Nas. Nas was like, because Nas came, he was like, yo, that was kind of crazy, yo. That kind of felt like when I came, like, damn.

Starting point is 00:32:02 Damn. Oh, wow. Like, you know, like, the Howard, coach Lee, and then it was like, he had took me on tour, right? I am, I am. Wait, so Nas stepped up. Yeah, I remember that.

Starting point is 00:32:11 And what, you think that was like a Queens thing, or did you guys have connection before that? Part of Queens thing, because it was, yeah, that was a part of it. But, he didn't have to, he didn't have to do that. And also, he's getting enemies by cosigning you. That's a brave thing. No, it was too early, there was no enemies, it wasn't there yet, it was just, he was't have to do that. And also he's getting enemies by cosigning you. That's a brave thing. It was too early, there was no enemies,

Starting point is 00:32:26 it wasn't there yet, it was just, he was looking at it like it was disruptive, it was an ill move, like a boss move. You did disnoz a few years later. Yeah, you gotta understand this, you have to understand this. He has a reason for everything. I'm here to clear up your misunderstanding.

Starting point is 00:32:40 Yeah. You do have to understand, look, it's funny, because it ties into shit even to now right like you go it was just yesterday I was just seeing it that they're saying a third person that was there to witness this this thing in the Diddy case that the law school. Oh yeah. It was Jennifer. Allegedly, Amanda. Thank you. Man is working overtime. The Jewish anxiety corner in this room is percolating right now. It brought up Jennifer because not only is she a woman, she's a woman. The Jewish anxiety corner in this room is percolating right now.

Starting point is 00:33:26 It brought up Jennifer because Nas is kind of like, he took us on the road. So he kind of knew our temperament. If you ask him, he'll tell you that he said, I thought they was just going to jail because it was actively in it. He was the smarter part of the experience. Right, right, right. The rest of the crew was like, I was at home with them. There was Queensbridge, Jungle Waves, Lorde,

Starting point is 00:33:53 everybody that was there was like, horse, it was all comfortable for me to be around him. So when we was out, there was always that energy that was like, we was in different neighborhoods, but the energy that's in our neighborhood was there. Yeah. A different version of it. So, and I was comfortable with being in altercations

Starting point is 00:34:12 or popping, so I was like, what? Because the fight just, you know what? Boxing does that to you. It takes the emotion out of the fight. Yeah, for sure. Because you fight so often, you start, it just made like, what? It's like sparring. Like, most of the time when you get into it with a fighter, like, you just, you know, because he

Starting point is 00:34:30 punched you already. You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't see him rocking back and forth. In the street, it's easy. He just punched you and started to fight. All the guys who's like trying to take the shit off and screw it up. You know they don't want to fight. It's like, hold on a moment. Hold score it out. You know they don't want to fight. It sounds like a slow moment. Hold on a moment. Hold on a moment. Trying to find a way out of this shit.

Starting point is 00:34:49 Hold on a moment. Yeah. You think this shit is sweet? No. No. I don't even make it to that part. I'm gone. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:34:58 He said, look at his eyes across. He has that, I'm not getting in a fucking fight. No. Thank you. Are you kidding me? He says, are you kidding me? Look at his arms across. He has that, I'm not getting in a fucking fight. Are you kidding me? You get me. He says, are you kidding me? There's gonna be no fight. You ever know how people feel tough just because they're around you?

Starting point is 00:35:13 I'm not even one of them. I'm not even there. And in lifestyle, you know, the funny is the Who Kid would do that, right? The Who Kid would come, he'd go, Joe, we see you punting him. I ran out the back, I did this. I said, you ran? Are you pussy? Yes.

Starting point is 00:35:31 Yo, shout out. Shout out, Who Kid, bro. Who did you get punting on shit? What the fuck are you talking about? That was the first time I ever had a conversation with someone, and they said yes. And I looked at it, and I was like, yo, nah, nah, it's cool. We can let him play the music.

Starting point is 00:35:48 Exactly. You don't need him to shoot or put it. We're not going to react to nothing that comes from him, because we know that he has this temperament. That's fine. It's actually better that he told me than to pretend to be something you're not. And now you've got an expectation for him to rumble,

Starting point is 00:36:02 and then he's not getting after it. I'm like, listen, you go. I'm putting that straight. you gotta. I'm pushing. I'm pushing. I'm pushing straight. Expect me to do what someone you think is supposed you to do in the event that there's an altercation. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:36:13 I'm 5'7". And you gotta look like, yes. Regular person, you did something wrong. 9-1-1 in the family. 9 fucking 1-1. Come get this motherfucker. You hit me. Don't act like you didn't hit me.

Starting point is 00:36:24 You hit me. Exactly. What? I mean, you know me. Don't act like you didn't hit me, you hit me. Exactly. I'm in your footage. He's lying, officer. Officer's lying. I will see you in court. Yes. It's odd when you see people that portray lifestyle a certain way do it.

Starting point is 00:36:37 I agree. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. People try to get tough with me and I told them and I'm calling Uncle Donald to look at their taxes. I'd say, if anybody gets tough with me, I told Uncle Donald, I gotta call you. You better make sure you're not writing off everything.

Starting point is 00:36:50 You don't look at the write-offs. We're looking at the write-offs. Because this is not right. It's nice. Yes. Yes, exactly. Those are different alphabet boys, right? Yeah, we got BIA, we got we got CIA, SEC, all of that.

Starting point is 00:37:06 I brought it to JLo then because I had done a record with Jennifer because she's really why I recorded with Puff. She told her because she was on six. Every bad thing starts with her. Yes. What? No, no. That was a good take.

Starting point is 00:37:21 Yeah, yeah. I was fucked up. Free shine though. This is the very beginning. God damn. Free shine. That was a good take. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I was fucked up. Free shine, though. Free shine. This is the very beginning. God damn.

Starting point is 00:37:28 Free shine, bro. Free shine. This shit has been damaged back. Let's start back in the country. At that point, at that point, it was good. She was like, cause she was on the six with Cory Rooney and then we were working, Tommy Mtolla. Shout out Tommy, man.

Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah, that whole Columbia regime over there, we was working together, and then Jennifer was telling him, she work with me. He's like really talented. And I started to write little things for Puff, stuff like that, and then after a while, and then after I worked, we did a couple things together. She called and they had a record, it was Jennifer's record,

Starting point is 00:38:04 so I wrote to the record and Irv and them found out that I had done the record. This is how, look, they've done things to block me. I haven't blocked. I haven't told the DJ, don't play a record or don't. Irv is Irv Gotti. Irv Gotti, you can tell now they've admitted it over the time. Yeah, and that JLo record would have been a big look for you

Starting point is 00:38:25 because you wasn't 50 yet. They was using me against me. They went in total time and I'm like, why are y'all doing business with this guy? This guy's like what he says on these records. Like what happens when he flips or shut off? So they scared him. Scared him off for the record show.

Starting point is 00:38:41 They ended up like, put Nas, put Nas. This is why even Jay was angry at Irv, because he was saying put Nas on the record. Oh, and Jay and Nas were beefing at the time. Well, he just won. Oh, wow. That's right after Ether. Well, who won that one, too?

Starting point is 00:38:56 Nas won. Easy. Why do we not remember that? Because, no, no, he just, look, Nas won that battle. It depends which records we use. No, that's crazy. Shut up. It depends which records we use. That's crazy. Shut up.

Starting point is 00:39:05 It's called ether in some of them for a reason. It's not called whatever. Takeover was way harder. But nobody calls, damn, you really took them over. Yeah, you got to be aware of that. Look, who's best is to the actual, like the fan's perception of the artist? Because if they're really passionate about you,

Starting point is 00:39:25 then you're the best. He left Rockefeller after that. Yeah. He said, y'all Rocko, we welcome y'all Rockfellas. And he's like, I think I gotta buy Def Jam. Yeah, that was kinda crazy. I need a new label.

Starting point is 00:39:36 That was, yeah, but he could've sued, he could've let Drake. What is the- He didn't sue. Yeah, well finish the Jennifer thing, and then I wanna ask you about the drink. But with Jennifer, she had called, we did the record and then I'm like in the car, I'm like, yo, when I see that they said new Nas, Jennifer Lopez. Oh no.

Starting point is 00:39:55 The song comes on and it's Nas. And like he didn't call early on, he had some issues with his old lady, his baby mother at the time. Yeah, we heard about that. While I was there, she kinda wanted to do the same thing to Mega. Yeah, to now. He wanted to do the same thing to what? To my Mega.

Starting point is 00:40:17 Oh, he was doing that to Cormega? Well, he wanted to. Oh. And he had called me Mad Times because I could get in contact with the girl Holly that he was dealing with at the time. Oh yeah, yeah. And I spoke to him mad times when it was for that, but then when he came to tell me about

Starting point is 00:40:32 the record- He didn't keep that same love. He didn't keep that same- He called me the same way. So I felt, that's how I was feeling. You felt a lack of loyalty. You felt- Right.

Starting point is 00:40:41 Just at that point. And I do like, I love Nas. He didn't have to take me on that tour. I just seen him in Qatar. He's out there and I'm like, yo, it's ill to see him because he was that before we figured out how to do it. Interesting. Like we couldn't, I was not a good rapper at the point.

Starting point is 00:40:58 Nas was on fire. Yeah. I mean, Nas is just phenomenal. I was still working at becoming good as an artist. Dramatic story. And it took everything that I went through to get me to the point that I was still working at becoming good as an artist. Yeah, yeah. Dramatic story. And it took everything that I went through to get me to the point that I was at on Get Rich or Die Try.

Starting point is 00:41:09 You know what I mean? Oh, it's like, you gotta look to say the universal theme that worked the best for hip hop artists is life and death. Oh, the biggie. Biggie, Ready to Die, Life After Death, Tupac Machiavelli, these are all life and death theme records. So when I say, I'm gonna add a little bit of aspiration to it. I say get rich or die.

Starting point is 00:41:33 Die trying, oh. That's great. I mean, we were just listening to it, I'm sure all you guys, I was listening to it, coming and the energy is absolutely crazy, but it also, I remember, is that the energy is absolutely crazy. But it also like, I remember, is that the biggest debut of an artist? Yeah, the biggest, the largest debut of hip hop album.

Starting point is 00:41:51 Wow. It was because I got bumped around. I would have came out of Columbia and been like boop. Oh, that's right. So everybody knew about you, you're percolating, there's the heat, you're hearing about all the drama, you're getting better at rap.

Starting point is 00:42:04 I get shot up. I'm getting better at the same time and then by the time I come back and I just didn't switch the narrative. See, look, if they go like this, they go, a lot of times we hear people say something and it's dope. And you go, you're looking, go,

Starting point is 00:42:20 is he really like that? Like, is the artist really like living that lifestyle? And the part where it breaks is he's not. Yeah, I don't know if you can tell, I grew up in the suburbs. And that was. This is right here.

Starting point is 00:42:35 It's like that. And that was. That was the thing that everybody was going crazy about is this guy, all the rappers that talk all this shit, this guy did. He lived his days. And they were like, they were so romanticized by it or whatever, it was like, yo, this is it.

Starting point is 00:42:50 No, it's still here, it's still the NBA Youngboy Dirt area in our culture, hip hop. Like Kendrick, that part is, been there too. It was just conscious rappers, it was like common sense. It was most deaf, it was Talib Kweli, it was Q2. I used to love that, It was just conscious rappers. It was like Common Sense was most deaf. It was Taleb Kweli. It was Q-tip. I used to love that. Taleb got a job.

Starting point is 00:43:08 They were smarter rappers. And then, you know, when a hit record is sit down, be humble, that's fucking smart shit to make a hit record out of it. Yeah. Okay. What age group is inappropriate to not, like what he just said?

Starting point is 00:43:24 None. None, oh wow. So you can reach the masses if you're being a little bit more. When it connects, when it's done properly. But what age group is inappropriate to not like what he just said? None. None. Oh, wow. So you can reach the masses if you're being a little bit more. Yeah. When it connects, when it's done properly. It's just harder to connect.

Starting point is 00:43:31 It is harder to do it that way, from my perspective. Quick question about the Nas JLo thing. He knew you were going to do that track and still didn't call you? Or maybe he just didn't know? I don't think he was aware of it, but they did that. Right, right, right. On his behalf. You see what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:43:43 They said, no, no. I know they did that. And then shifted, right. On his behalf. You see what I'm saying? They said, no, no. I know they did that. And then shifted for him to rap on the record. And then when that happens, and I'm like, damn, why you didn't call me to just say that it was, that I'm not on the record, that he's on the record? Yeah. See, cause they-

Starting point is 00:43:57 But do you think he knew that you were on the record already? Cause maybe he didn't know. He was supposed to be on it. I think that he, yeah. Oh, he knew. That took him off the record. Yeah, that's different. Yeah, okay. All right, guys, we're gonna take a break for a second.

Starting point is 00:44:05 Listen, we gotta talk about how the NFL is trying to steal Christmas. Yeah, I love it, dude. They are really grinching it up. They're trying to steal Christmas from the NBA. NBA always had Christmas lockdown. That was their day. That was their day.

Starting point is 00:44:17 And the NFL is like, nah, we got it. 50 Cent with Alex, that's my corner now. They really try to take that corner. So we got a couple games. Good games, I think. You like these? I think good games. Steelers, Chiefs?

Starting point is 00:44:29 Steelers, Chiefs. The Chiefs, every fucking game they play is close. And the Steelers are good, so the Steelers could win. I guess you still bet on the Chiefs just because they keep winning. But I don't know what the spread is. But Ravens, Texans, I don't trust the Texans. I hate to say that as someone from Texas,

Starting point is 00:44:44 but I just don't trust them this year. So you think Ravens got it? I think the Ravens got it. They haven't been amazing this year, but I trust them more than I trust the Texans. Going back to this year real quick, Tomlin is so funny. I know I'm probably referencing the video poorly,

Starting point is 00:44:56 but one of my favorite things about the mic'd up situations is when a player is acting different than normal and the other players realize he's mic'd up. So he'll be like in the locker room, be like, all right, guys, let's go. And they'll be like, oh, you mic'd up. Usually scrolling TikTok with us. But I hear you're going to be a teammate right now.

Starting point is 00:45:17 That's funny. Yeah, Mike Tomlin calls somebody out on the way back to the locker room. He's like, oh, you mic'd up. You don't talk like this. Yeah, there's some shit like that after the game. Once the guy, the coach was like, hey, you mic'd up. You don't talk like this. Yeah, there's some shit like that after the game. Who was the guy, the coach was like, hey, you're about to hit your record for rushing or some shit.

Starting point is 00:45:29 Fuck, who was that? You saw this? Yeah. I can put you in, you can get her, you want the other guys. He goes, let the young guys eat. Oh, it was, Saquon Barkley was the running back. Is that what it was?

Starting point is 00:45:38 Oh, it was a rushing record for a single game. Yeah, and it was Nick Siriani was the coach. That's pretty cool. That's all that is. That is, yeah. Yeah, Saquon said, let the young boys eat. Yeah, Nick Sirianni was the coach. That's pretty cool. That is, that is. Yeah, Saquon said, let the young boys eat. Oh, yeah. Now who was miked up, Sirianni or Saquon? I think Sirianni was miked up.

Starting point is 00:45:52 That's fire. Sirianni was miked up. That's fire. Oh, Saquon was miked up. Oh, okay. So there you go. I mean, cool. Yeah, it's fire.

Starting point is 00:46:01 But also like, you already got the game in a bag. Your job is incredibly dangerous. Yeah. Yeah, it's fire. But also like, you already got the game in a bag. Your job is incredibly dangerous. Yeah. Why go out there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck the single game record.

Starting point is 00:46:14 You could go over to season one. Also, Saquon hasn't been this healthy in years. Normally he gets hurt. Yeah. Yeah. I hate the Eagles. Yeah, you want to go get hit in the head? You're like, I'll just sit on the bench.

Starting point is 00:46:23 Let the young guys get a kick. Yeah, yeah. to go get hit in the head. You're like, I'll just sit on the bench. Let the young guys get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what he meant to say. Okay, so when and then and then the Ravens, you think, got it? I think the Ravens got it. I think they'll figure it out. Is there a storyline you like this year in football? Is there something you find really Detroit and Buffalo? Interesting.

Starting point is 00:46:39 Yeah, I think those are it's like we finally could see one of these cities win a Super Bowl. And I think that would be so fucking cool. It's like we finally could see one of these cities win a Super Bowl and I think that would be so like a fun redemption Story. Yeah, man, Buffalo the most loyal fans Yeah, Detroit been getting shit on for decades and every every possible way Yeah, and if either one of them got a Super Bowl, it would be so sick. So I'm hoping that happens. Yeah, Detroit's already been Detroit's never been I just mean is a city the city just Detroit's never even been. Detroit's never been. I just mean it's a city. The city is just L after L, honestly. And Detroit's a good city. You ever go to Detroit? Yeah, it's cool. It's a cool city. It's actually coming up a little bit.

Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah, yeah, I think it's a good, it's yeah. But I think that would, those are the storylines I'm most interested in. Russell Wilson's like kind of back. He's like kind of playing well. We thought he was cooked, cooked. Yeah, what do you think changed there? I don't know. I think Pittsburgh has a good enough supporting cast. So that it doesn't really matter. He just needs to be serviceable and he's been managing that. Yeah, what do you think changed there? I don't know. I think Pittsburgh has a good enough supporting cast. So that it doesn't really matter. He just needs to be serviceable and he's been managing that. But also Denver, a lot of people were saying Sean Payton, who coached Russell Wilson last year, he was the problem.

Starting point is 00:47:34 But now they're kind of winning with the rookie quarterback. So like, he's kind of redeemed himself a little bit. So there's a lot of redemption going on for everybody except the Cowboys, which is cool. Well, how about your Chiefs though? Using the dark magic to always win. The Chiefs look very vulnerable this year, even though they're 11 and 1. I know that sounds crazy. Maybe 12 and 1, whatever they are.

Starting point is 00:47:52 12 and 1, sounds crazy, but they are, I think, 10 straight one-score games they've won. And at some point, you would think that has to give. I know they got Patrick Mahomes, but at some point, you think that has to give. You think? Because they're like struggling to beat like losing teams. Yeah, one score game the Raiders the Panthers. Yeah Yeah, you just I'm not I don't trust them as much as I do the Bills right now Even though the Bills lost against the Rams last week. Mm-hmm. I just still think they are a better team a stronger team

Starting point is 00:48:20 That could be wrong. Mark is so much better at our stake segments after he does a show with Joey Avery Yeah, he's with Joey Avery. Yeah, exactly. He hangs out with Joey Avery and he gets all the insight. I've been absorbing some shit. This football thing is crazy, dude. Shout out Joey, man. What up, Joey?

Starting point is 00:48:32 Yeah, yeah. I'm a fan of football. That's funny. The only thing I know about football on Christmas is Beyonce's performance. Yeah. I'm gonna bet it did. Yo, if you're gonna bet this Christmas,

Starting point is 00:48:42 you're gonna do it with steak. Steak is the leader in global betting in U.S. social casinos. Bet on top sports and political events. And use the promo code FLAGRANT for your welcome bonus. Now let's get back to the show. Can I ask you about the second biggest beef in rap right now which is Drake and Kendrick?

Starting point is 00:48:56 What do you think about the Pads? What's the first? The first is... What's the first, please? I don't know. There's probably something else going on. But I know that the second one that people used to be talking about, like what do you think the lawsuit is really about?

Starting point is 00:49:12 I thought it was about stopping the damage that the Super Bowl would do. Because the Super Bowl, now in my opinion, I don't think that the NFL would let Kendrick say certified pedophiles out loud. I think that they would be part of the damages after that. You know you're the largest sports event that everyone is, you know, and people who watch football who don't watch football. Everybody gonna watch it.

Starting point is 00:49:37 Super Bowl. And when that record just day, night, night, night, like that is the record. You can't not play it. Yes. But you can't not play it. Yes. But you can't say, you can't have lines talking about pedophilia in the song that the whole world is watching. Now look at this, look.

Starting point is 00:49:52 Pedophilia, look at this, a such a proper dis. This is not saying anything that would have to be bleeped. You see what I'm saying to you? It's not a curse word. It's not a curse word. It's not a curse word. Isn't that crazy that words are worse than the most heinous act ever done? If you properly scientifically say the most heinous act ever,

Starting point is 00:50:12 they're like, oh, that's fine. Don't say shit though. That's not appropriate. F.C.C. The way... It not being true doesn't matter. In hip-hop, it didn't matter to this point. None of the things that they said were about me

Starting point is 00:50:31 were true at that point. Like they said true. But there gotta be enough, not proof, but like some smoke around it. If there's any smoke around it, we'll buy it. Faith and Biggie, or sorry, Faith and Pac, there's some picture of them together. So if he says, I fucked her, we all see that.

Starting point is 00:50:44 One picture, this is all we need is fans. One picture. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh and Pac, there's some picture of them together. So if he says, I fucked her, we all see that. One picture, this is all we need is fans. One picture. And we're like, Pac, fuck that girl. That's all we need is fans. We're just ready to buy in. No, I think that they're just, that's it. They're ready to hate on Drake. Yes. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:50:56 You're always ready to hate on who's on top. And now Kendrick, if Kendrick's on top, there's gonna be people ready to hate on him. And he's never been in that position. He always been an underdog. But he's been a media darling. Yeah. Because he's not number one.

Starting point is 00:51:10 Kendrick got trophies I didn't even know that they had. Which one? Like, what, a Pulitzer Prize? What the fuck? How a rapper get that? Sit down. Wait, what the fuck? This is what they would like hip hop culture to be.

Starting point is 00:51:27 Oh, what do you mean by that? Like, look at the themes. Good kid, bad city, you know what I mean? Coming out of the environment and being that talented. So they would like it to be that and it be... Less scary and dangerous. Yes. Less aggressive, less parts of the environment.

Starting point is 00:51:45 Because you can sell it to more people. You can sell it to way more people. Because I never seen, I didn't even know what that was. When he got that one, I was like, oh, what's that? Like I seen, look, when Jay signed his contract, the big one was Beyonce. When he signed that contract, the marriage contract, he got trophies. I was wondering what he got trophies. Now those fucking trophies. Those fucking trophies came rolling in, buddy. He started getting Grammys left and right, man.

Starting point is 00:52:10 I mean, look, if you look at this career, if you look at this career. Oh, wow. You're gonna let him say that? Jay was getting Grammys. He had one. He had exactly one. He had one. And he didn't show up. He had like 20 now. He had one. He had one. He didn't show up. He had like 20 now. He had like 18 since he been down.

Starting point is 00:52:28 He had one, bro. Hard Knock Life. Hold on. Hold on. You're not wrong. He was one. At the same time. After that, he got some shit, he started drinking. He was drinking right now. Fucking thinks the cop.

Starting point is 00:52:43 Wait a minute. So you're saying the success is derived from the marriage. Absolutely, you've been treated differently. The accolades. Because he's no longer viewed as what, like a street or gangster rapper. Now he's viewed as a businessman, entrepreneur, family man.

Starting point is 00:52:57 And the biggest ones, because of the position Beyonce's in. Oh, wow. You were connected to the biggest. Jay got it for the music. Jay got it for the music. I'm saying, you didn't see. He deserved those. He was like this.

Starting point is 00:53:14 Black excellence, they're sitting there like, yeah, yeah. It's the big head, bruh. I hate you, man. I don't have anything going on here. This is the one time I'm gonna be with you niggas this year. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:53:28 Yeah. Yeah. Yo, he's like. Come on, bro. I mean, that's crazy. He's in it now. Yes. That's crazy.

Starting point is 00:53:35 He's just looking at his watch during the whole Rock Nation play, like, huh, is it 330 yet? Yeah, it's almost time to get out of here. What the fuck is that? Yo. I feel like I'm normal again. Get me outta here. Oh wow, so that's the deal, you son of a bitch. Oh fuck, that's the deal.

Starting point is 00:53:52 The other ones didn't count as much as that one did. Oh yo, before I forget this, we talked about Jay. Proximity to Diddy. You don't think he knew anything? He's seemingly around Diddy a lot. That was a real suburb question. Did I know, right? You don't think he knew anything? He's seemingly around video. I don't know. That was a real suburb question. I know, right?

Starting point is 00:54:07 Proximity. Proximity. Proximity. That's the SAT hit parade we're in on. Do you think he fucking knew all of the shit that was going on? Then it was like a... I don't want to incriminate myself. I know, I know, I know.

Starting point is 00:54:20 But the way he said it, no matter how you answer that shit, you snitchin'. Exactly. That was a naughty, antenna-douche. That was a naughty question. You asked the question like a fan. He said, hey, I grew up with white people, but the only thing I know is how to get a black guy in trouble. But it's a great question.

Starting point is 00:54:38 Just give him the happy meal before you ask him to snitch, bro. You said, Dan, it wasn't even drinking. Speaking of, how the hell you ask him a snitch, bro. He said, damn, it wasn't even drinking. Speaking of, how the hell you pronounce lechum? Lechum and du'wah. OK. It's the King's Pad. King's Pad.

Starting point is 00:54:55 Oh. Because I know Branson. That's the one I pronounce. Branson. Ah, that's the Branson lifestyle. You're going to be outside. Fifth, you're not worried that if you throw a little alley and you don't throw out allegations But like you kind of poke fun at them questions

Starting point is 00:55:09 You know you're not worried that it comes back your way like people who dig up your past and try to pull stuff up But it was for me to perform that I Didn't fucking give her a drink so she'd forget what the fuck happened. What the fuck is going on here, bro? I took a pill. Yes, I took the pill. I gave me the fucking drug to perform.

Starting point is 00:55:40 So she could remember and possibly love me for that. Didn't work, didn't work. What the fuck? This is, yo, bro, look, I'm doing pretty good. I'm doing pretty good. You know what I mean? But I'm just saying, you just said it's the opposite of normal shit that we're talking about, bro.

Starting point is 00:55:55 That is why. I don't know why it's so hard for people to just acknowledge weird shit is weird. So for people to feel like you would have something or you would have reserved energy because you felt like you was doing it too. This is people that are looking on separation between their hardships or the things that they got going on that would be issues and what a celebrity's issues would be. Wait, what does that mean?

Starting point is 00:56:15 They think all celebrities are doing the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. And when you see, if I wasn't saying anything, guess what? You could safely say that a person on the outskirts that is not involved in hip-hop culture could think that everybody in hip-hop culture is with that shit. So by you, oh you're good bro, you're fucking good. He's protecting hip-hop. If you don't speak out and make them the weirdos, then they're gonna think everybody's like that. Every single person

Starting point is 00:56:41 is like that involved in hip-hop culture. Makes you think, did Jay do it? everybody's like that. Every single person is like that, involved in Hip Hop Coach. Makes you think, did Jay do it? Shut up. Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, bro, I'm the Iraq nation, I gotta send her that. You don't feel like that happened the same day, bro. The one that came out the day before, the next day, I was eating raisin bran. Okay, I'm eating raisin bran,

Starting point is 00:57:14 I got my daughter in my arm, I'm scrolling, right? I see somebody screenshot your shit, it's Jay and the whole family at the Mufasa event, and then the comment is, said Jay said they said I 13 year old let's go watch Mufasa Yourself as a family man, but now but they had to go to the premiere bro. That was planned already. I'm proud of you. I realized that later but I'm just saying it's what happened. It's got crazy. I haven't seen him in a long time.

Starting point is 00:57:49 That's all I'm saying. When I hadn't seen him in a long time and I heard this shit and I saw Mufasa, I said whoa. That's all that fucking happened bro. This is my phone. This is happening in real time. I'm going yo. He said yo.

Starting point is 00:58:04 You just got to see this. That's all that fucking happened, bro. You think this is on my phone? This is my phone? This is happening in real time? I'm going, yo, we say, yo. You just got to say everyone gets these jokes, bro. That's what you got to say. Rappers, listen, comedians are new rappers, bro. Why do people come to my page? That's true. You know what they say?

Starting point is 00:58:19 Well, you don't think you're going to happen next? Yeah, that's what they said to me, buddy. Well, you're next, buddy. You're fucking, yeah, you laughing at this. Then you're not worried at all. I ain't not worried at all. Why? Because you don't got nothing.

Starting point is 00:58:31 I don't have it. All right. There's no girls gonna come out there. Why you sound skeptical? Because I think there are some women that are like. No, I think there's some women that are like. This guy's supposed to be from Queens. No, no, no, no, no.

Starting point is 00:58:41 He's a f***ing Queens. No, he's reflecting his own f***ed up experience. No, no, no, no. You kicked him, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, opportunists. He's going. Yeah, they'll just throw out the fucking mob. But that's what I'm saying. You had to have something. Look, if you already interacted with the person, right, and you hadn't had a bad experience, it would take more for them to say some of the shit that you see these people say. Ah.

Starting point is 00:59:18 All right, like, you know, what made you do it? What made you? Even when things repart ways, because a lot of times, when we interact with people, they don't necessarily, they're not just having fun for tonight. They think they were leading into this hardcore relationship that may not materialize.

Starting point is 00:59:34 So I see what you're saying, where they can look and go, well, look, you met the girls in 2003. You hung out with her. You had a good time after the show with 30 girls there. You just went and y'all hung out, right? You had a good time after the show with 30 girls there. You just went and y'all hung out right and y'all just part ways. All right so there's no negative things between it but she can look up at the tv now and you've been a success since then. I feel like that's my life.

Starting point is 00:59:57 I was supposed to be there and now I ain't be upset with you and say something but there's a will it have any merit to it. So if I gotta keep it real. That woman hasn't been in my, You ain't always have the most amicable, amicable breakups. Do you remember where, I think it's your baby mom's, where it's like she was kinda speaking out, and then all of a sudden the house just got burnt down. Yeah, you know what happens, left eye.

Starting point is 01:00:19 It's, yes. She burnt the house down. This nigga is crazy. That's what I was saying. No, he goes, wow, so I don't know how you feel about me now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I have faith in our just uses. I believe there will be consequences to make the decisions and actions that this brother is talking about. Oh my goodness. I agree, man.

Starting point is 01:00:53 Why is that a part of his thought process today while we're here having a good time? That's a good ass point. You do have people who really, look when you break with them, they don't care about you anymore. So they'll say things and you go, yeah, but it doesn't hold merit, it doesn't have any real connection to it. Yeah, of course, after all these years and you don't see nothing.

Starting point is 01:01:13 Yeah, like the girl that's just upset with you, she's just angry with you, she got you. And you go, oh. I thought the smartest thing Jay said in the statement was, if you really believe this happened, then press criminal charges. He said, pull up. But I don't think that was, if you really believe this happened, then press criminal charges. He said pull up. But I don't think that was.

Starting point is 01:01:28 Tell me, tell me. Okay, look, because of the statute of limitation, there is no criminal. Oh, there is no criminal. So making a statement is to make people feel like. But apparently, if she's under 18, didn't you say it still could be criminal? He knows he's fed.

Starting point is 01:01:42 He used to be a cop. You turn him into a cop. He used to sell drugs. He became a police officer. Did you know that? You sit out around. He was a glorified security guard. But you know what he would do? When they would arrest G-Unit guys, he would be like, yes. And he was in the court guilty.

Starting point is 01:01:58 Bitch. He did it. I was actually a cool one. I'll give you the extra fucking cheese sandwiches and stuff like that. I'll be looking out. Take care of the family. Hey, you know, I don't know, man. I think what's the name?

Starting point is 01:02:09 I get confused too. When you look at this shit, it's a lot of confusing information, right? But I think when you do point out that, why didn't you file criminal cases? Because you can't. You can't. It's over 20 years old. This was 2000, bro. I would shut up. I think if it's a minor, you can't.

Starting point is 01:02:30 When they're saying this is happening, I'm not even 50 cent yet. Yeah. Oh, wow. You see what I'm saying? Like, this is that far back. So it's like, I'm not, it didn't even take place at that point. So I'm like, you know, can I, this is,

Starting point is 01:02:44 I want to get back to, can I, this is, I wanna get back to, can I ask you a question? How did you convince Louisiana to change the laws? No, it was already. Your influence is a little scary sometimes, bro. Like, you play around on the internet, but then like, you made a state change a law. Have you been to Shreveport?

Starting point is 01:03:00 They need it. No. Yes, but. I spent half my childhood basically in Shreveport. So I know they need everything you can give them and can you explain what happened? Because this was crazy It's report they were first to provide tax incentives and they um, they blossomed first and then their political Stuff to goes on out there had them pull it and a lot of people Gravitated to a lamp and and closer places that they can work consistently in the field that they were working in.

Starting point is 01:03:27 So now when you get a chance to come out there, like I didn't have, it was Millennium Studios originally. I worked on Streets of Blood out there. I fell with Val Kilmer and Sharon Stone. So I hadn't experienced any report as just acting talent at that point. And then Avi Lerner had owned the studio at that point and Avi, he just financed the expendables.

Starting point is 01:03:47 I did the expenditures with Stallone, Jason Sadom and Megan Fox. Dolph London. Dolph London, the whole squad. That's the one that, like all my action stars are in it. I like action as a genre, so I did that movie. But while I'm there, I'm asking him like, what was wrong with it?

Starting point is 01:04:02 He was like, nothing, it's just the incentive, you know what? So we was filming in Bulgaria because they understand they need to bring the productions out there. And then... And just real quick for everybody that's watching, sometimes states will actually reduce the taxes on a production, it could be a TV show or a film, and that will incentivize people to do it

Starting point is 01:04:21 in their incentive Hollywood, or their incentive New York. A lot of times they shoot Toronto instead of New York City. Actually, Hollywood and New York are the worst places to shoot. It's too expensive. Yeah. Yeah, it's the worst place to shoot. And it's turned into that because it's become such a frequent thing.

Starting point is 01:04:35 And now everybody's moving to different areas to create businesses that are functional. So you go buy this huge film complex in Shreveport Throw a pretty sick comedy show. Yeah, super. They can't afford that show Bro it was everybody show. It was Chappelle, Kat, Andrew Schultz That's what I'm saying Chappelle, Kat, Andrew Schultz. I'll be whatever. Yeah, I will pull that. Ha ha! I'm putting my voice up in the air. That's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:05:09 Ha ha ha! I mean, Bill Bellamy was there, like, Garry O was there, it was like, DC was there, it was crazy. It was, and it was, I mean, backstage was, there was 2,000 people backstage. That's it. It was definitely like, it was.

Starting point is 01:05:24 Now you are an industry guy. Look people backstage. That's it. It was definitely like, it was. Now you are an industry guy. Look at you. There was no pressure for them to do like long sets, just being is enough. Like they didn't have to, you know, and then. Nah, but giving that to the city was very cool. You blow it up and you're there

Starting point is 01:05:39 and there's these tax incentives for the state. And then it comes out, I think with the new administration, they're getting rid of the tax incentives. So I'm like, ah. I go, what the fuck? Yeah, you gotta imagine what that feels like after you just spent five million dollars. Five million dollars, motherfucker.

Starting point is 01:05:52 What? I hear you go, what? What the fuck? So what I'm trying to understand is what happened, because a week later, Yeah, we went, I went. The state said, we actually would like to bring back the tax incentives. Yeah, it was up, the state said we actually would like to bring back the tax incentives

Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah, it's what it was up, but they had to go to pass to a different areas of government So they had but it was questioning it went from they reduced it from 150 million hours to 125 minute But it's still Now it's functional still the right place for me to film so I'll be able to do some things and I had bought I bought A lot of property out there. You bought, I thought the whole waterfront or whatever that went there. Like downtown, cause I gotta revitalize it

Starting point is 01:06:31 and get it up to, you know, like the hotel rooms was a little off. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, yo, I gotta make sure the experience is like, when I'm putting on my performance, they gotta have a nice way, you know? you know what's interesting about this is like,

Starting point is 01:06:47 this is what all the people who buy sports teams are doing now. Like what you're doing with entertainment is what Golden State Warriors did. They basically get the city to pay for the new arena, the conglomerate, the group, you'll buy up all the real estate around that shitty ass place

Starting point is 01:07:05 and they rent it out to restaurants, they make condos there. They know it's gonna bring so much traffic. They make more money off the real estate than they do off the team. So knowing that you're gonna build up this city and you're gonna make it a hub for projects. Yeah, you gotta get those places and revitalize.

Starting point is 01:07:19 And this is the only way that you can assure that it'll be, that the lights will turn on when you need them to. So for it to actually have places to go out to eat and do things that you enjoy out there. Like that's the basic experience. We say, we had, nah, I was glad I had a good time,

Starting point is 01:07:34 especially if we're going somewhere to work. Those who had. I hear what you're saying. If you're in the middle of nowhere, you're like, ah, I gotta do this project for two months, what the fuck. Now you wanna have a nice restaurant to go to, you wanna have a little club. You want people to wanna be in Shreveport.

Starting point is 01:07:45 Yeah, and I can curate that. And then, you know, a lot of, the cool part is a lot of the artists were in a place where they wanna bring things like Jadakiss got the kiss calf. So I'm bringing, like we created a coffee shop out there. Oh, that's fire. That's fire. Then Keith Sweat, Harlem's Pizza. Let's go.

Starting point is 01:08:06 I didn't even tell anybody about that. I know you're huge. How big is your team? Because how do you pull off moves like this? Every move you pull off, I'm like, how the fuck is this thing to do? You know what, I got separate teams. They're separated because the junior music team is there and then you got what G unit from a television would be.

Starting point is 01:08:28 So we break it up and a lot of times that's how they mess up their business because they get too big of a team. Yeah, you never worry about that? No. Because like you have. Because I'm functioning, I'm working. That's true. But you're also on tour, like you're also, yeah, you're managing all these.

Starting point is 01:08:42 This is actually a large production, bro. Like when I came in here, I'll say there's two different setups, you got the whole, all these cameras, look at all this stuff. Talk that shit. Look, that camera right there. Talk that shit. That right there could be the whole show.

Starting point is 01:08:53 We could put that one over there just in case it'll get you every now and then. You know what I'm saying? And then we can go ahead and make a lot more money. We could keep a lot more money in our pocket. Who bought all of this stuff? I think it was donated? I was donated. It was donated.

Starting point is 01:09:06 Yeah. We stole it from the world. It's a nice reduction. It's got some money around it. It's not a million square feet in truth. It's not cheap stuff, bro. This is the professional lights I could tell. All right, guys, let's take a little break for a second, man,

Starting point is 01:09:19 because some of the boys are getting a little money off of this crypto thing. Yo, did y'all know that 50 actually took payments for Animal Ambition, I believe it was the album, in Bitcoin? Yeah. What a fucking genius dude. No, I did not. 700 Bitcoins in 2014.

Starting point is 01:09:37 Wow. That'd be $71 million, sir. That guy's a genius dude. That motherfucker don't fail. He cannot. He does not fail. Yep. Did he hold onto it though?

Starting point is 01:09:48 That's the question. He might've failed. Yeah. We should have asked him that. Jamil, why don't you tell me that is incredible. That's crazy. Who's the athlete? No, there's an athlete. Oh yeah. Uh, the football player. And then he was talking. Yes. Yeah. He was talking that shit now. He actually lied to his mom when Bitcoin dropped. He's like, oh, I sold it actually. Wow.

Starting point is 01:10:11 I believe it's his mom. And and and he actually stayed and my man is cooking right now. That's awesome. Good for him. He's great, dude. That guy's great. He's a baller too. Like, yeah, he retired.

Starting point is 01:10:23 But he like he was the guy that went on two 30 day water fasts, water only, and then lost 140 pounds or something like that. But you need to do that right after you finish playing, right? Yeah, he did that after he finished playing. They did it again like seven, eight months later, I think. I don't know the exact timeline, but yeah, two of them. But I feel like those bigger guys in football, it's gotta be...

Starting point is 01:10:40 Yeah, you gotta lose the weight quickly. Yeah, because that's game over for your life. And now he's set financially, in good shape, living his life. Probably bought it with Kraken because he knows it will be so secure. Yeah, save his exchange. What we care about is safety with our exchanges. Yes. Okay.

Starting point is 01:10:57 I have learned that lesson the hard way. What can happen? You buy with FTX or something and then... And then what happened? It just goes away. Then this guy blows it all fucking some ugly girl and then what are you going to do? She was hideous. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:08 So the nice thing about Kraken is we looked into it and they're beautiful. Yeah, everyone's gorgeous. They're gorgeous and beautiful people are not going to fuck you over when it comes to Krypto. No. We just sound like Trump right now. Everyone in this company is beautiful. They're stunning. they're beautiful.

Starting point is 01:11:26 Handsome. No, but for real, you don't want to trust an ugly bitch with money. Yeah, dude, no chance. Pretty women know how to handle money. Absolutely. They keep it around so they can spend it. An ugly chick, she's used to being broke. I think her dad runs the SEC or something like that.

Starting point is 01:11:44 You gotta buy everything herself, ugly ass. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Like that is one of the reasons why Kraken is just such a profound exchange. Yeah, it's the beauty of the people. Oh, I'm up right now? You got 500 bucks. I'm a 500? Oh, wait, do a recent check.

Starting point is 01:12:00 I'm up. Four seats to the Knicks. Maybe to the Liberty. Four seats to the Knicks. Maybe to the Liberty. Four seats to the Liberty. Yeah, I think I'm up 2,600. Jesus Christ. I cost down. The fuck?

Starting point is 01:12:11 God damn. Nah, go back to his shit. What the fuck Mark Byron, yo. Okay, I'm gonna share it. No, no, no. How much longer? Okay, how do we not rug pull? No, we're not doing this.

Starting point is 01:12:20 I'm not doing this. It's not worth the risk. You saw what happened to Hot Toys. You see what happened to everybody's shares. I'm not doing this. I rug pull? No, we're not doing this. I'm not doing it, it's not worth the risk. You saw what happened to Hot Toys. You see what happened to everybody's shares, what they buy. This is what we'll do.

Starting point is 01:12:32 Once we sell, we'll reveal what we bought on our crypto journey. Oh, that's good. Okay. Because otherwise it's gonna look like we're promoting. What if I'm Diamond Hands? Then you never get to reveal. And you probably die before you get to make the money so you lost all of it

Starting point is 01:12:52 The one silver lining it would be that you lost Anyway, I'm up 500 god damn Good I'm a 500. God damn. 500 is good. 500 is good. No, it's good. I'm down 2,500 makes a difference. Not shocked. This guy will lose crypto even if the exchange is still open. How much hock-to would you buy to be honest? Oh man. A lot of hock-to. I'd try to but you can't buy it on Kraken.

Starting point is 01:13:19 You know why that is? Yeah. Because they don't got them bullshit ass coins on Kraken. Shout out to Kraken. Okay? Coffeezilla probably approves that statement. I said probably. Okay? The point is Kraken is where you're going to get your crypto. Go to kraken.com slash flagrant or you just scan the QR code right here on the screen.

Starting point is 01:13:39 You can start your crypto journey today and I want to give you a disclaimer. I want this to be loud and clear not investment advice no crypto trading involves risk of loss and is offered to US customers excluding Maine New York and Washington over through a payward interactive Inc child that's a crack and no man next time 50 zone we're gonna ask him if he held on yeah it's hard to hold yeah I think we talked about this before but you have to be an absolutely insane or retarded person To buy Bitcoin at like a hundred dollars and keep it to a hundred that's why they call them DGN bro. They're Degenerate you have to be a degenerate like DGN's you need to have a religious belief in where crypto is gonna go

Starting point is 01:14:19 Yeah, he's saying he's gonna hold it until it hits a million million How many afterlif is that gonna be? You're gonna come back as a rabbit trying to access your account? Wait, you're gonna wait till it hits a million? A million. Give it to your kids, you can pass it down. Pass it down to my kids. Leave something for them. That's what I'm talking about.

Starting point is 01:14:49 Respect. That is respect. A million, I hope it hits a million. I'm invested. I hope I got more than you. You might as much as I lost. No, no, no. I thought you said you'll lost like 25%.

Starting point is 01:15:04 Yeah. Okay. And you know how much percent you would have lost if you used Kraken? Zero. Wow. You would be up big. I know. I think about this all the time.

Starting point is 01:15:14 Why don't you just use Kraken? Now I'm using Kraken, but I'm not going to buy anymore. Your wife put the condom on. Yeah. She was cool with it. How much you found out I lost it. She was like, you've lost it? Yo, isn't it crazy? I know we talked about this before,

Starting point is 01:15:26 but how their economic anxiety works. Right? It never kicks in when they want frivolous ass shit. Right? But the second we're trying to create generational wealth of random letters on the internet. Now it's a problem. Now it's a big fucking deal.

Starting point is 01:15:42 B2C, them letters could change our lives. Shit. Kraken, yo. Kraken.com slash Flavor It. Get your journey started, okay? We're gonna tell you what we invested in, you can tell us what you guys invested in, and then, you know, we'll see how it goes. Hell yeah.

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Starting point is 01:17:01 Hmm. You know, if I had to be different in order to make it happen, I wouldn't be being me, and it wouldn't be for your life. You know, if I had to be different in order to make it happen, I wouldn't be being me and it wouldn't be the right thing. It wouldn't be authentic. Yeah. And then when you do come in, and I'm the executive producer,

Starting point is 01:17:15 I'm supposed to be behind the scenes, but I'm just so visible that I can move the audience. You know what I mean? So like I go 50 Cent Action, my fast channel just went on. On Roku. On Roku. Now popping, already gonna be the number one

Starting point is 01:17:29 fast channel on Roku. Poretti, see? I said one year. I was like one day. Feel the 50 Cent effect. You know what I'm saying? It's already happening. Let it go.

Starting point is 01:17:40 But they, you know, I can't say it officially until they get the numbers back. But it's gonna be there. But I just, I can't say it officially until they get the numbers back, but. It's gonna be there. Yeah, yeah. But I just, I just, like, I understand Hollywood a little bit, and I understand the fear that everybody there lives in. They're terrified at every second. They're like,

Starting point is 01:17:57 Yeah, part of it too is like, there's certain things I'm not gonna compromise, right? You look and go, that's the old Hollywood we're talking about. There was like, and it was different too. You wouldn't dare say something about sexuality. But now we know what Puffy was doing with their booty the whole time. Look at this, this is what made me so afraid. What was he doing with their booties, man?

Starting point is 01:18:15 He was playing with it. He was playing with it. According to the people complaining. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.

Starting point is 01:18:27 Yeah, allegedly. Yeah, he was playing with it. He was playing with it, man. Yeah, this is really good. Yeah, it is. This is really good. Got Hennessy beat by a mile. Okay, so you find a way to essentially operate

Starting point is 01:18:39 as yourself in these spaces. You have to hit a roadblock. There has to be a time where you come across someone they're like, hey, can you just calm it down on social media? Always, always do that. Okay, and a time where you come across someone they're like, hey, can you just comment down on social media? Always, always do that. Okay, and then how do you handle that conversation?

Starting point is 01:18:48 You know, I do, look, it was usually from stars. I would get that energy from them. So you got their whole network on your back and they have the balls to come to you and go, could you just comment down a little? Well, you know, you're asking me to not do what is why you even have success. So they're so detached from. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, I don't like, oh, you know, you're asking me to not do what is why you even have success. So they're so detached from...

Starting point is 01:19:07 Yeah, yeah. It was like, I don't like, oh, you know what? Okay. Then when you don't see me post anything connected to them, it's because now I'm like, I got 41 shows across 10 different networks. God damn. I wouldn't have been able to look, 19 of those shows, they had to tell me no. Who? Stars? Stars had to tell me no for me to Stars? Stars had to tell me no.

Starting point is 01:19:25 For me to go out and sell it to another network. Wow. So I'm the easiest person to say no to. I don't care about particularly, if people are stars. I drag the most people to stars with the material that I created. So now when they would like it to be other projects,

Starting point is 01:19:42 like they would like it to be Outlander. If that works for the network and that audience is there hardcore for it, it is a bigger network. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? So they wanted to be that, so they promoted that all the time and I'm like, yo, you forgot to say this. And I'm like, even though, you know, there's different things. You could, just in entertainment period, there's blocks, there's borders of things, right? And I think when you, diversity it is,

Starting point is 01:20:14 they limit how often they'll specifically take a time to point out that it's doing what. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Because there's other spaces that, you know, it feels like they are pro that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Because there's other spaces that, it feels like they are pro that. Yeah. Oh, that's interesting.

Starting point is 01:20:30 They care more about their identity being wrapped around Outlander. Yes. That's being wrapped around your shows, which are the most successful shows. The shows that create the actual. Oh, shit. And what fucking idiots.

Starting point is 01:20:45 The people are going to decide what your identity is when you're a TV network. A TV network doesn't decide. The people decide. When you got a CEO there and he says, this is the mandate, premium women, and you go, you know the shows that we just put up that work don't match a new mandate? Yeah, they don't get it.

Starting point is 01:21:04 And also, they have an arrogance. They think that they're the ones that are making the show successful. Right, they don't work because of that. Because you look and go, the data will tell you if you look, your girlfriend might pick the cable bill. That is the bill that is consistently

Starting point is 01:21:17 the same size bill every month. But they'll look at it and say, premium women, if you look, the females are paying that bill. You see what I'm saying? In the house, thinking about your household. And then they go, when you look and you see that data, you go, oh, premium women,

Starting point is 01:21:33 so you wanna create content that targets this demo. And it's just a person that has information that is not paying attention to it. What they're actually watching. Right, that means she's not watching the TV because you like the show. She would be not watching the TV because you like the show. She would be enjoying it with you when you like the show.

Starting point is 01:21:49 And they're saying no because the data says that they're paying, let's make it about premium women. Okay, I got you. Yeah, go, go. You've had some of the craziest business moves like vitamin water, a bunch of, the list goes on. But power was probably one of the flyest moves because first season, and bunch of, the list goes on, but Power was probably one of the flyest moves because first season,

Starting point is 01:22:07 and correct me if I'm wrong, first season, I think you only were getting like 17K an episode. Like he lowballed himself and then after the success, then you renegotiated it now. And now he has 12 shows on stuff. I would have got paid more to just go to the nightclub. Just go, no performance. Yeah, just be there. I'm gonna be here. I would have got paid more to just go to the nightclub. Just go, no performance. Yeah, just be there.

Starting point is 01:22:27 I'm gonna be here. I would have got paid more to do that. I wanted to make the show. So you bet on yourself. Like, that shit is fire. And they go, look, they told me, no, we pitched to everybody. Ain't gotta know first.

Starting point is 01:22:38 I came back, I had time, because I knew the storylines and everything. I wrote music that matches the characters and stuff like that. So I said, this is what we're going to do when you pitch. Portion of the pitch, then we'll press play. And then portion of the pitch, and then we'll press play. And then we'll be able to have the room looking and going, they had an experience with music from 50 Cent at that point.

Starting point is 01:22:58 And then I'm going, this is the place where they spend the least amount of money in the production. Because the last place they're doing is musical clearance. The last thing, they've already done all the special effects, everything else, everybody's already got paid. So the music supervisor will come in. This is after, yeah, thought, yeah. And they'll pull out the things that you put and place things that are comparable.

Starting point is 01:23:19 He changed that. Every show is putting like Drake on, Kendrick's songs on. Also, shout out to you for clearing. Oh no, that was, that was nice. Shout out to you for clearing that song, man. For an especial. That was super cool. Respect, respect.

Starting point is 01:23:33 But, but, okay, so anyway, so you were able to bypass certain things, but one thing you said to me when you were in Boston is I was like, why do you think the shows are so successful? And you're like, well, cause it's me. And I kinda laugh and I was like, what do you mean? shows are so successful? And you're like, well, because it's me. And I kind of laugh and I was like, what do you mean? And then you go, well, I mean, if you were from this area and experienced these things,

Starting point is 01:23:51 do you want some white lady from Burbank to write your story or do you want me supervising? It's like the rap thing, you like live the rap. No, look, the- The story's safe with you. It's find the best possible story you can find and you like live the rest. They know, look, the, the, tell them the production. The story's safe with you. Yeah. And find the best possible story you can find and then creatively make up shit.

Starting point is 01:24:11 Because your life, you guys would be in each other's lives, just being on this podcast consistently. So you'd be cutting into somebody else's life at some period. Yeah. All right, so they don't want to deal with that at all, legal department, they want it to, so if you make up timelines and you do different things

Starting point is 01:24:24 to creatively make a great show that tells the nuances of the story of what the experience is, they'll be excited by that. Me, I needed to be grounded in real. And they don't know what real is. The idea that someone's not from the hood at all, their idea of the super thug character is gonna do some goofy shit.

Starting point is 01:24:41 And then when the people want, what is the goofiest shit they've pitched to you? They wanted me to kill an old lady in power. Right? Aw. For everybody knows kids and old hens is off the limit. I'm going, wait a minute. I'm going through my Rolodex of shit

Starting point is 01:24:56 that people did really fucked up shit. And I'm going, why exactly am I killing an old lady? Yeah. Cause that's what they think. And then I'll go, okay, okay. Can I have drugs? Can you give me drugs? Can you give me a reason why I'm not in my right mind

Starting point is 01:25:10 and why I'm doing it? Because that would be an excuse for the behavior being, that was a television moment for me. That makes sense. Yeah. Because I don't know nobody who killed somebody's old lady to get back into an apartment that they used to hustle out of the den. What makes characters great is when they're flawed, right?

Starting point is 01:25:29 Like we like Tony Soprano, he's not a good guy, he's not a bad guy, but you have to know what their constitution is. And I think a lot of times when people are so separated from whatever it is, it could be the mafia, it could be the hood, it doesn't matter, they're so separate, they don't know what a bad guy is capable of,

Starting point is 01:25:45 but they don't know what he won't do. You're not killing nobody's grandma. The only thing left was to kill a dog. This is a bad person. You know what the fuck, I'm like, yo, so the whole thing, you want me to, with a Jesus Saves pillow? I swear to you, with a Jesus Saves pillow saved it. That was really what the scene was.

Starting point is 01:26:08 I was like, yo, can I be on drugs? That's when I started with Lean in the show. Yeah. And Tyreek was handling with that because I'm like, just give me something. Give me a reason that. To break my constitution, to not be who I am. And to make it feel like this could have happened.

Starting point is 01:26:27 When he had so much character development, and because every character was complex, now you have a spin-off for every single character. Exactly. You created the hood marvel. Like it's a multiverse. It really is, that shit is fire. It comes with things, and I got some stuff

Starting point is 01:26:45 that's now just coming, it's gonna shake things. It's gonna be exciting. Really? Yeah, it's a good project. What, yeah, can you give us a little? Yeah. Oh, I'm working on one with Chris Albrecht right now. Me and Chris, we did Power to Love. Well, Courtney is the writer, was the writer,

Starting point is 01:27:00 so I know that. But me and Mark, Mark Kam introduced me to Courtney, Courtney, we put together and we got the thing together. But Chris is like the... Let him know who Chris is. This is the goat who ran HBO for the best of HBO shows. Yeah, Soprano, The Wire. Oh, wow.

Starting point is 01:27:19 So it's like, he's one of those guys, like for real. So he sees a bit. And understands story to a different level where he could actually, he could write the shit himself. But he just had the other writers involved with it. So yeah. Oh, wow. OK.

Starting point is 01:27:35 So that guy, he's, we got another one we're working on now with where we incorporate DR and PR. We're going across Dykeman this time. Oh, shit. So yeah. So that across the eight minutes now. So they'll see our people from DR. Shout out to Dominican. You're gonna have some chicken fights bro. It's gonna be a lot of skinny jeans and manicured eyebrows. Can I help out with the dressing for that? Yes, definitely. I want to do wardrobe.

Starting point is 01:28:07 He said, ha! But it's a big one. It's one of those tights. Is that one of your celibate now? I saw you posted about that. You know what? That worked out for me for a little while, bro. For how long?

Starting point is 01:28:16 It does, like for a weekend. No, a few months. A few months. That's good. These guys are going to jail for probably celibate. Probably celibate. Heuff is celibate? He's dating himself. I mean, is he?

Starting point is 01:28:27 Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully. I don't reply any of this shit that you try. I'm crazy. You said, oh, is he? He's crazy. He's crazy. But you know, baby, it's obviously a game.

Starting point is 01:28:37 I'm going to get killed after this. Wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on. So you said earlier this year that you're going to be celibate. Yeah. He's going to practice. He's going to practice. He's going to practice. You're not goingibate. Yeah, yeah. He's gonna practice. I was practicing.

Starting point is 01:28:46 You're not gonna play the game, you just gonna practice. No, no, you can see people that. You sit across from them at the table and you can see them. That they're celibate? No, because you don't want anything from them. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, you sit and you go out with an attractive girl, you talk to her, you let her... Oh, they can feel the energy.

Starting point is 01:29:04 No, you say, so what and you go out with an attractive girl, you talk to her, you let her in. Oh, they can feel the energy. No, you say, so what are you doing? When you ask a girl what she working on and she don't say anything, she's working on you. Oh, shit. So what were you saying to girls that were trying to fuck during this period? Nah, just hanging out.

Starting point is 01:29:19 I'm just not really into that right now. We just need to know each other. Be friends. Oh, the energy. And that would work so much better. It just kills them. It just kills them know each other. Be friends. Oh, the energy. And that would work so much better. Just kill them. It just kills them. But where's the expectations of the things that are here?

Starting point is 01:29:32 Like, you hear culturally what's going on in music. A lot of whole shit. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's going on in music culture. And they kind of run it. And they think that because they're intending to perform and enjoying it by saying these things, it becomes a part of the thought process. So there's expectations that you're doing things. I'm gonna take a boogie ass to Rodeo. I don't give a fuck what she do to

Starting point is 01:29:55 me. I'm gonna give her what she want. But it does make some people think that you should give them what they want. And the fact that you're not going to give it to them at all. Yeah, yeah. They just lose their mind. It is better that you don't give me what you thought would be creature eligibility for you to get whatever you want. So now you're not buying anything on Rodeo.

Starting point is 01:30:15 No, no. When I go to Rodeo, it's always my size. It's a 9 and 1 half. Yeah. It's always that, bro. You don't trick on another girl every once in a while just for fun? I've tricked on her for, you know.

Starting point is 01:30:30 For a good amount of time. He says a couple months. A couple months. He's like, I haven't done it. Anybody who hasn't done that just doesn't have money. Yeah. Yeah, it's the truth, man. It's my life.

Starting point is 01:30:44 Yeah, it was definitely. You can't brag about not tricking if you don't got it. Like, no way. You said you didn't trick. Oh, you didn't? You never tricked? No? You never had it.

Starting point is 01:30:54 It never was so easy for you to do it for recreational purposes that you just said, why did I do that? I didn't have to do that. That was nice. It's nice of me to do that, that was nice. It's nice of me to do that. It's a thoughtful thing, it's a courteous thing. Can you tell us about Den of Thieves 2? Den of Thieves 2.

Starting point is 01:31:11 Sorry, starring O'Shea Jackson Jr.? That's the homie dude. The legend bro. That's my favorite actor bro. Lightskin and Ice Cube. That's, that's. There's no way you don't win with a lighter skinned Lightskin.

Starting point is 01:31:21 That's my favorite. There is no way. A lighter skinned Lightskin. There is no way. A lighter skinned ice cream. Listen, this is gonna work. He's sweet though, he's a sweet nice, we call him ice cream. Yo listen. No, no, no.

Starting point is 01:31:35 O'Shea, he's one of the most talented actors. He's brilliant bro. I wouldn't believe him, the first, the first. He's a genius. No, he's a genius. Nah, for real. He's a genius. His condition, he trained.

Starting point is 01:31:45 I know, but he don't listen to music, bro. I was trying to put him onto some of his dad's shit. But he's trained. He's an art student, he's an actor. I believe all that. For a long time, he's a lot more experienced than we have, bro. Yeah. No, he's good.

Starting point is 01:31:55 I'm looking at him and I'm going, oh shit. So we was doing publicity for the first, for Denity's, right? And Jirard Butler was there and he's going. Shout out to Jirard, man. Like he's in the back and I'm like, what the fuck was that for, right? Because we were like going on a talk show. And he's like, I'm going to the show. And I'm like, what the fuck was that for?

Starting point is 01:32:03 And he's like, I'm going to the show. And I'm like, I'm going to the show. And he's like, I'm going to the show. And I'm like, I'm going to the show. And he's like, I'm goingrod Butler was there and he's going. Shout out to Jerrod, man. Like he's in the back and I'm like, what the fuck was that for, right? Cause we were like going on a talk show. And I'm like, yo, what the fuck did you do that for? He's like, no, what? What?

Starting point is 01:32:15 No, he's like, that's the shit you do when you try to relax yourself before you go act. Yeah. You're not gonna go act, you're gonna go be you. Yeah. But he still had the nervous energy. He's going to go in front of the cameras. He's going to go, whoo.

Starting point is 01:32:28 You know. And I was like, whoa, bro. I know how to be 50 Cent. I don't have to, whoo. For fuck's sake. You see what I'm saying? Like, I don't have to do that, bro. What the fuck is going on?

Starting point is 01:32:39 Don't ever have a vulnerable moment around Ernest Jackson, bro. He going to tell the world about that shit. Oh shit comes over and he's like, yo, what happened, what happened? I said, no, he said, oh, this guy's giving me shit. Like, you know, I'm like, no, no, I'm just fucking with him, man.

Starting point is 01:32:55 I'm happy that you guys would take the time out of your lives to be here to promote my movie. This is what I did the whole time, first of all, I was like, yo, this is great. My movie's fabulous. I got Gerard Butler even came to support me. Like they ain't even in the movie. So you know what really transpired, right?

Starting point is 01:33:14 Five years before the movie was made, I had asked my agent at CAA to give me a good action script. And he gave it to me, gave me a script, and I read it. And he was like, so what do you think? And I was like, well, I thought it was good. Like when the car flipped over and the thing blew up and stuff, and he said, he says, I said, what would you think? And he said, I didn't give a shit.

Starting point is 01:33:34 I said, you didn't give a shit. He said, yeah, he said, you told me give you an action script. I'll give you an action script. I said, no, give me the best action script. He's like, what the fucking? So I know what the fuck is right and what's not right. Right? He goes, okay, give me a script. The script is

Starting point is 01:33:50 Den of Thieves. At this time, Den of Thieves was at Relativity. Tuckatooley was still working at Relativity. And he just... That's a production company, Relativity? And he just mentioned to me that Tuckatooley is Tuckas script. Like, it was an amazing project. And I read it. And when I met him at the Oscar party.

Starting point is 01:34:08 So he's like, hey, I'm Tucker. And I was like, oh shit, oh yeah, I know the script you got, the Den of Thieves. He's like, like, how do you know that script? Like nobody knows about this. Like one of his projects, like a baby. And then later he left Relativity, moved to his own company and continued to have a relationship with Christian Guttigus and worked together with that. And then when

Starting point is 01:34:29 the project came together, five years later, the only person who had the script at that point was Jirard Butler. But I was reading the scripts, but they gave it to Jirard Butler because they wrote it with intentions for it to be something for Jirard Butler. I had it because I looked for the best shit to find. Got it. So I wasn't in the movie. So five years later, I'm cool enough. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:34:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now you're looking at me going, yo. Yo, it'd be real dope if you were to play. And I'm like, I'm available. Right, you see me doing fucking Power for $17,000. I am available. I would like to, I'm at a point where it's a good time to pivot and do something different.

Starting point is 01:35:09 Like, you look and go, look, right now you think, like in Drake's case, because of the success, he's feeling the backlash of his success. Right now, everything that he said he did, they did. And at Lawsuit, they did it. What do you mean? The Universal Music Group. Reducing the price of the songs. No, everything that he did is a part of marketing. I feel that too. they did it. What do you mean? The University Music Group. Reducing the price of the songs.

Starting point is 01:35:25 Everything that he did is a part of marketing. I feel that too. Oh, yeah, they do it for everybody. They probably did it for him. Yes. Yeah, yeah. But I would look and go, look, at Interscope, there was Delivery Unit and GUNOT.

Starting point is 01:35:40 I know the feeling. Oh, at the same time. Wow, so they're making money on both sides. Right, because they're looking at it like a business, completely not personalizing each individual. They play both sides. You got money on both sides. They're like, whatever.

Starting point is 01:35:52 Play the record, don't play it. They're just selling music. They don't care about all. It's not a personal relationship at all. Yeah, it's like Hershey's owns Kit Kat, too. You'll feel personal because you'll feel like you made them so much money. And they'll go, no, it's not personal at all.

Starting point is 01:36:05 But Drake's your man. How do you personally feel about him, Suit? I don't, look, I like Drake's music. I'm a Drake fan. I'm one of those guys that listen to the music and I start to like what's happening in the art and culture. All right. So, and then there's a point where your voice becomes a hit.

Starting point is 01:36:23 And as soon as it comes on We know like we're not struggling to say this is good It's just there like and I like his shit Kendrick shit the same Kendrick is closer technically because of the dr. Dre connection, but I Do look I do like I Do feel like I went through a portion of what he's experienced when you were on on top, everybody wants to take a shot. Yeah, and you see how he lashes everybody? Shit, you had the list. That don't feel like 50 Cent?

Starting point is 01:36:53 Oh shit. You see what I'm saying? That's what that experience is. You were doing that before you had anything. Wait, so what happened when- He's good at doing the weave. How do you feel about it? Do you think he's?

Starting point is 01:37:06 Oh, damn, I got caught. I know he does this guy is like a cop. No, what do you mean? I feel cop energy. That's what I'm trying to tell everybody. Right now, I lock nobody. We're engaged in this beef. We need the police on our side, okay?

Starting point is 01:37:26 We have police everywhere in every single city. I'm feeling Vlad energy off of me. Vlad? Oh, don't put that on me. That's crazy. Vlad Gillum. I'm feeling like someone's going to jail, fucker. It's him.

Starting point is 01:37:38 He's going out of here. You gave the weed, you gave the weed. Yeah, I know. You slag. I got it. He gave you a way to say that. Hold on, hold on. That's crazy. That's crazy.

Starting point is 01:37:50 He's slick, buddy. But tell us though, tell us, tell us though. No, I think, I never knew. If it's for what I was thinking it's for, then I understand it. If it's for what you're thinking for. To prevent the song from being played at the Super Bowl, because it would do further damage. That would be wild to hear that. The entire Super Bowl is calling you're thinking for. Yes. The song for me played at the Super Bowl because it did further damage. That would be wild to hear that. The entire Super Bowl is calling you a pedophile.

Starting point is 01:38:09 It's crazy. Wop, wop, wop. What the fuck? You're at the house like this, and you was on fire just a week ago. And now they're like, did you stink? Or something changed about you. So everybody, when everybody's coming at you, right,

Starting point is 01:38:24 when you're on top, you're on top of the world, you feel the energy of all these people that don't have what you have. And even if they're not coming directly, they're like saying indirect, sneak shit. They still would like the idea of you not. And they relish and then support the things that are against you.

Starting point is 01:38:42 They laugh at it, they regurgitate the talking points of it. To be unaffected by things that are against you, they laugh at it, they regurgitate the talking points of it. To be unaffected by things that bother you, will prevent you from actually having to go through. But they're affected by your success. Because they think your success is stopping theirs, but people don't realize it's like, they just suck. Right, it's gonna take time for that bullshit

Starting point is 01:39:01 you have to connect anyway. Yeah, it's never gonna connect. Yeah, that's what they don't get. Because they'd rather think that you're the one stopping them than they ain't shit. But the reality is they ain't shit. Yeah, no, no, you're in the way. They blame the system, they blame something.

Starting point is 01:39:16 Like, say, look, this is why they always say our artist's first album was his best album. Because you don't get a second chance at a first impression. That first impression, everyone was in a grience that this shit is cool. And you had no expectation. Right, so it's like- Low expectations keep you like-

Starting point is 01:39:33 Organically, you can put a record out and nobody knows who you are and it organically starts streaming. It starts to work. And they go, you always knew. So you can do things during that period. You can make a million mistakes on that first, while you're going up the charts for the first time.

Starting point is 01:39:46 And then afterwards, you have to figure out all of the mistakes that you made and not fuck up again. Because you can't launch the project without having a marketing campaign set and know exactly what the single is and when you're gonna have your targeted date for it to hit radio and everything else, because it's not gonna stream as it went.

Starting point is 01:40:05 They're not finding it for the first time. So they'll go, oh no, that's cool, but it's not like his first shit. Is there anything you would have done differently music wise? No, I think I made the right decisions because I left before they told me to go. That's smart.

Starting point is 01:40:23 And you know what, usually, the artist is the last one to know he fell off. Yeah, like you're not paying attention. Because they're not, hmm. All right, like you're going, how the fuck, you know, so you could be there and be like, yo, I ain't doing a show, and look, no, because you still think you're supposed to get 80,000.

Starting point is 01:40:40 And you don't. Bring the fucking number down and then you'll have the shows moving around. Sometimes you need to do a show for 17 grand and then you got 42 shows in production Hey, they won't take that ego. Yeah, sometimes you got to pay the dope boys on the corner and just like Exactly, so you can show them with Boston. That's and then yeah, that's always been a part of it Guys, I just yawned right before this ad read You know why because my my sleep is still not quite

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Starting point is 01:43:42 What would your how would you advise him in this situation? I don't know. He got so much, he already has an acting background. Yeah. So get into the, should he pivot more in a movie, film, go deeper on top of it and all that stuff? I think he might want to do that kind of stuff anyway. He already is conditioned for it.

Starting point is 01:44:00 But just to give himself a break from, because they'll feel it, they're gonna miss it. Let them miss it, that's the thing. They'll miss it, look, if you say, there is nothing but two, we got two artists we're talking about. For real. And the whole culture to dominate their art,

Starting point is 01:44:15 swallowing up everyone's attention, right? If Dre goes, okay, I'm going. You shame, and it's all on Kendrick. Yo, you like, can you feed the streets? They're gonna be like this, they minutes all on Kendrick. You better feed the streets. They're going to be like this. Look at Kendrick. You can't be five years between hours. We need some food right now.

Starting point is 01:44:33 Andre Draper's had a lot of pressure on him to do it. And you say take a break. Let them miss you. I would watch him. I would just watch him. Because he's rich as a motherfucker. You don't need the money. It them miss you. I would watch him. I would just watch him. Because he's rich as a motherfucker. You don't need the money. It's so funny.

Starting point is 01:44:47 When was the last time you went on tour before this one? I went before the last tour. Oh, it's been a while. And what happened in this tour? Everything is all right. It's crazy. So it's like, if you give people a... I tell this to comics all the time.

Starting point is 01:45:00 There's these comics that like tour relentlessly. And I'm just, I literally say, I'm like, take a break and then let them develop something new and then let them go to a bunch of other shows and be like, man, that was fun. It wasn't like that. That money, yeah. And that energy definitely. I remember even talking to you about it.

Starting point is 01:45:16 I was like, yo, that shit sold quick. You're like, bro, it was time. Yeah, time. When you wait, you haven't gone to these markets in a long time. Like the Germany, different areas. Australia, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:45:27 Also do take into account that there's association of Dr. Dre and Eminem, and they don't talk. So I'm the connection. So you get the benefit from that. So if you want to get some Dre and Em as well, yeah. I didn't really. Yeah, like that. Wait, Eminem never tours?

Starting point is 01:45:42 Who do you think? Barely. Holy shit. Yeah, you never see him. He'll do a show. He'll like pop up and do a show. Yeah, like that. Wait, Eminem never tours? He didn't. Barely. He's been on a long tour. He'll do a show. He'll like pop up and do a show. Oh, wow. And I love that you did the residency after the Sold Out Tour.

Starting point is 01:45:51 Yeah. And then you all look. Residences, you know how sometimes they have the energy around it like it's over? No, that shit changed, bro. Yeah. You know who changed that? Who the fuck was it?

Starting point is 01:46:01 It was Adele and Usher. It was, well, Usher. I feel after Usher, it was completely different because instead of an afterthought, it became a destination for people to go to. People like, I'm flying out just to see- I'm gonna go see that and do this. Exactly.

Starting point is 01:46:16 And then I feel like it was, and also it happened in the DJ world. The biggest DJs would have these residencies, the biggest DJs in the whole world, and they would go there, they'd be like, okay, I'm doing this Sunday party, or I'm doing this, whatever. And stay in each, and be in the same spot.

Starting point is 01:46:32 But that's crazy, in our lifetime it went from, this is where you go at the end of the career, to this is how you know you're popping. Because if you, it's easy, not easy, but there are people that could do one show in a city, and then come back a couple years later. They didn't do it again. Not everybody could do five.

Starting point is 01:46:48 Look, that strip, Dre is Vegas. Club Dre is Vegas. Because for the most part, hip hop culture lives in that building. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? The rest of it, you don't get a chance to get into those other spots

Starting point is 01:47:03 that have a full on production. So now when you go. And Vegas lets you let it rip too. And it's a better show because you don't have to move everything. Right, so you build some shit that is fragile that is not as expensive as what you have to take apart. Can you tell us what's gonna be at the...

Starting point is 01:47:19 All right, so wait, so the residency is this month into January. Yeah, January 4th, December 27th to January 4th, I'm at the residency, then January 10th, the... Movie comes out. The Denethees is there. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:47:34 All right, so, but the residency, the setup and like, you're gonna have some people pop, like what's the... Oh, I'm out for definitely. I got juice now, nah. No, I got juice. You had. I know it was that. So the New York show, definitely. I got juice now. Nah. No. You had. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:47:46 So the New York show, that show was fun. You brought out fucking Fat Joe, Busta. Like that show was fun. I have a squad come out and I have some fun with it, but definitely like I want to make the perform things that I want to perform instead of the records that. Oh, so you're going to switch it up? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:48:03 I'm definitely going to musically change it up. And Snoop's album is coming out tomorrow, so I'm featuring Eminem on it. It's gonna be in the set. Fire. You know, self-performing. Fire. Also, we might see Snoop and Eminem there.

Starting point is 01:48:16 He might. He might ask for his special ticket if he was paying for it. He might. I feel like you're one of the few people that could call in the Em favor for pretty much anything. Well, that's my guy. The way Snoop's relationship with Dre is my relationship.

Starting point is 01:48:32 That's yours, right? Yeah. But I don't know if there's that many people that have that relationship with him. I'm trying to think. Nah, you know what I'm saying? Look, they usually are angry at the person that is at the helm.

Starting point is 01:48:44 Like, if you are a record company, if the, they all blame the record company. Yeah, it's not symbiotic. There's an antagonistic relationship between. And you look, Andrew, you have enough success, you don't know how, cause you deal with those feelings to yourself personally. Right, you see you get the people that resent you

Starting point is 01:49:03 for the success that you have and then that and you go what? Like you can care about it initially and eventually you'll start to look at it and go, man, fuck what you talking about. Because I can't allow you to have power over my emotions. You know and serenity prayer right I wasn't at the party. I'm not the little guy between me and Diddy. That was not me, okay? Okay, go, go, go. That's what the P is for, actually. Preach it. You were saying, go. I just think that what's her name, you fucked up my whole train of thought.

Starting point is 01:49:54 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Short any prayer, you were saying? You can't let other people affect your emotions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't care. They don't care about how you feel today. Not at all. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:50:04 Look what he said. And he goes, well, you don't think that, so you have some sort of backlash or something? And you're going, when no one else has said anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. When no one else has said anything, right? If you didn't, this means you're in agreeance with those behaviors.

Starting point is 01:50:20 Don't you appreciate hip hop culture? Wasn't you just talking about E.T.A. and the takeover and all that? And you go, yeah, so that't you just talking about E.T.A. and the takeover and all that? Yeah, of course. Yeah, so that means that you're okay with those behaviors. No, I'm not. Because you didn't say anything anti. I'm not, I'm not, but I get what you're saying.

Starting point is 01:50:31 Yeah, if you didn't say anything, then you look. I only was saying it because I've been saying it for 20 years. Like, you know what I'm saying? If it was new, I would have looked and been like, oh shit, like half of the community is like, they don't know, like the people who haven't been to the party to understand what that is, like always going on.

Starting point is 01:50:49 Yeah. Wow. I think people are so terrified of being left out of the party. And they're afraid of success. They think a successful people can do anything. They can hurt you, they can silence you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they got power.

Starting point is 01:51:03 Look at how extreme the shit is that they say they did. So you, they can silence you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look how extreme the shit is that Sandy did. Yeah. So you did half of that shit. Ooh. Ooh. Yeah, that's bad. Why would you not do whatever the fuck you wanna do? If you did half of that, why would you not be conditioned

Starting point is 01:51:19 to just do whatever? Everybody did seem afraid of Diddy though. You're saying if you get away with it. Yes, yeah. If you get away with half of that, you probably think you're invincible. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I mean, I'm not even,

Starting point is 01:51:29 you were the one guy who seemed like you're not afraid of Diddy. Was it just like I've been through way worse? He's not a scary guy. He never was a fucking scary guy. That's how I feel. I mean, that's how I feel about my beefs. Sometimes guys are-

Starting point is 01:51:43 I used to say I'm gonna make sweet love to him. Because he would've enjoyed it. He would've enjoyed it. You can't give him what he wants, that's not a punishment. These guys, that's what I'm talking about to comedians, you can't really beat them. You can't, you can't. You just gotta join these motherfuckers, man.

Starting point is 01:51:59 Because it's like- You got it, that's- Less than a 50, bro. You got it, I just said. And also we have connections to the IRS, man, and we've got a very powerful system that looks into your taxes. Yeah, we love litigation.

Starting point is 01:52:10 So make sure, yeah. A lot of people write off things for music videos that they really shouldn't write off, you know. And then we look into all those things. We look into the fine-tooth comb. We really do. Yeah, the nightclub bunny. I know, some people get paid cash.

Starting point is 01:52:22 Isn't that crazy? Unaccounted for. Unaccounted for cash is really a diabolical venture. Why would you risk your freedom for that? Wow. I have nothing to do with this shit. How did you learn so much about the business side? Is it just you living it or did you have a mentor or someone that you trusted that gave

Starting point is 01:52:42 you credit? It's a great question. Don't have someone that you trust and it'll help you learn it. It's bad. Wait, wait, wait. Go through it. Yeah, if you look, if you,

Starting point is 01:52:50 in it you have the information available to you because it's your situation, scenario. It's just, they're just not taking the time to read or to look at the things that are going on around them. Right? Even the new ventures, where like this is. Right, but the old ventures have trained you for the new venture. Vitamin Water, for example.

Starting point is 01:53:08 How do you know how to prepare yourself for that deal? Clearly, they're gonna try to find ways to carve you out. You're early, you're getting into a privately held company. But no other rapper was doing that for you. Right, but it changes the way the thought process, how you think about it, because they see it pay off bigger. But for you, how did you navigate that deal? Because I wanted to do it at that point.

Starting point is 01:53:30 Look, I was consciously not going towards spirits. Everybody's going spirits. You're like, this is why I fuck with you. It's like whatever everybody's doing, I wanna go the other way. Don't say people's names, I would say everyone's names. Exactly, exactly. All right, so everybody's going spirits. You're to go the other way. Don't say people's names, I would say everyone's names. Exactly, exactly.

Starting point is 01:53:45 All right. So everybody's going spirits. You're like, I got to do something different. What is the exact opposite of an alcoholic beverage? Water. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Vitamins with water. You know who drinks water?

Starting point is 01:53:55 Everyone. There we go. You know who drinks water? You know who needs water? I don't know if you guys remember, but some of the ads you used to make for vitamin water were the funniest. So good. So good. Which one, which one? Don't know if you guys remember but some of the ads you used to make for vitamin He just used it like if you pull few of these things up I remember one you had like he was in a suit Those days if social media was around, bro, he would've been the biggest. Like everything.

Starting point is 01:54:31 You can't beef with 50 because he'll make a fucking music anymore about you. Well, I don't know. I always thought that you understood two things. Like one, you're not really afraid of anything. And two, you understood funny. You will make everybody laugh at those people. And then- That's not to when you take yourself too serious.

Starting point is 01:54:48 You fucking hurt it. Yeah. So far. You start believing in hype, like you just start, you- But imagine that. Or the character you created, damn near, instead of being who you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:54:57 That's why this was so funny, because at this time you were the most gangster rapper in the industry, and then he'll do something like this, and we're like- All right, let's see, it's Curtis Jackson again. again you guys know without a doubt I promote Vitamin Water the best Vitamin Water! I know there's other guys who do that And then boom

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Starting point is 01:55:35 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:55:41 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Oh, the bat, yeah. You'll wear a diaper and walk around. The younger generation, when they come with it, and you don't wanna fuck with them. Don't play with them, because they dead-ass serious with the other shit. But it's almost, I got joker vibes off of him.

Starting point is 01:55:55 Yes, 100%. You know what I'm saying? It was like, because he's really in the experience, he's not the person that you should play with, but it's playing while he's doing it. It's like, you could be the nicest person in the experience is not the person that you should play with, but is playing. Yeah. While he's doing it. Yeah. It's like, you could be the nicest person in the room if you could fuck up everyone in the room.

Starting point is 01:56:11 Yeah, and you know, I don't even wanna fuck up everyone in the room. Who the fuck walks around with a feeling like that? Insecure people. The small guy, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And you go, how would you wanna do that? Even if you could, like,

Starting point is 01:56:22 I think there's a point that you just, some shit just looks crazy to you. Like the early perspective, you don't have all the information. So you're going, even when you say, like how do you catch up on the things, it's just being aware of it. Like you can't, if you don't, I use my gut, man, my instincts. I have to know enough to tell you how I feel about it.

Starting point is 01:56:43 You see what I'm saying? If you don't know and you looking at the lawyer, like he got you, he didn't even do what you did to earn the money. He just giving you, so you saying you paid him to read. So you can read. Yeah, I can fucking read. Chopper.

Starting point is 01:57:03 Free Floyd. Free Floyd. What happened? Somebody wild on chap, huh? I'm in a chap, huh? Yo, free Floyd. Free Floyd. What happened? Somebody wild on him, huh? That's what they said in London. Yeah. What's up with Floyd right now, man?

Starting point is 01:57:12 I don't know. I haven't spoken to him. That broke my heart that you guys aren't, you know, close. Still my guy, man. Still my guy. I just, you see, boxing is ill. But that was a good run. When you guys were together, that was probably the heyday of boxing in my generation.

Starting point is 01:57:26 That's cool. Again, I was young for Tyson coming up, so I didn't get to fully experience his. So my generation was when Floyd is out there and then 50's kind of running the Floyd show. And it was like. You know what happens is, because we've been, for instance, O2.

Starting point is 01:57:44 He had flew to Puerto Rico to be at Make Sure I Followed some before my music even took off in 03. Oh wow. So me and Floyd is like, even when I fight with him, I don't hate him. That's my voice. I still love you like my brother. We just don't get along because I don't need him for nothing. He don't need me.

Starting point is 01:57:59 Every now and then he goes and then he goes, yo, what's up, Fy? What you doing? Nothing. everything good. All right, good. And we go back to everything being cool, but he act funny in between time. He is the greatest ever, though. Absolutely.

Starting point is 01:58:13 You ever hear me make reference to him and not call him champ? No, it's true. He's the greatest. I've said that he's the greatest great. I think he's better at boxing than Einstein was at science. He was just. It's extreme focus. the greatest great. Like I think he's better at boxing than like Einstein was at science. It's extreme focus. Like, you know, he chose that early.

Starting point is 01:58:31 And a lot of times with the dads, when the dads make the best babysitters, they're living vicariously through the kids. They take the kid to the gym, they go to the gym. They're building their own champion. You know what I mean? And then they turned, that's why I remember Floyd Senior used to get into it

Starting point is 01:58:47 because there's so much alike. There's a little competitive instinct right there. Yeah. I mean, that's soap opera of boxing when like Senior coached De La Hoya. Yeah, that was crazy. I don't even think people could wrap their heads around what we saw.

Starting point is 01:59:01 Like, Floyd Mayweather Senior was the coach of De La Hoya when De La Hoya fought Floyd. Wow, yeah. Can you imagine what's happening? It's crazy. Nah, I said some things, yeah. But you know, after a while, when you, it's him, he turned into him.

Starting point is 01:59:23 What does that mean, he turned into him? Little Floyd turned into Floyd Senior. At that point, and he didn't need any validation or any acceptance from him, he just wanted to go do whatever he wanted to do. And you can't help him beat me because I'm better. You understand what I'm saying? Roger was so much, such an important part of Floyd's life at that point.

Starting point is 01:59:47 Roger is his uncle. They were both boxers. Accomplished. Yeah, so he had that. Yeah. In that period. Wow. RIP, right?

Starting point is 01:59:55 I think Roger passed, right? Yeah. Do you ever still spar? No, I haven't done it in a while. I should. Yeah. I haven't been in a street fight in a while. That's probably true.

Starting point is 02:00:03 I mean, that's- Don't speak about it so longingly while, I should. I haven't been in a street fight in a while. That's probably true. I mean, don't speak about it so longingly. I'll be honest. I'm just gonna miss a street fight. But you do wanna just make sure, like, I still got it. You see? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:00:15 You know, I'm like, nah. What was your go-to move in a street fight? Punch first. Nah, yeah. Well, I like to get off first. Yeah. I start the fight. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:00:24 We've seen it a couple times. I can feel it getting there. Like we feel it. Wait, like the energy you feel and then immediately you swinging? Yeah. Cause it's just where it is. Like you can, you know the environment,

Starting point is 02:00:34 you know what's there. Wait, what are you, wait, wait. The funk? Why is he asking? Why is the litigator stepping in here and telling us how to street fight? He's talking about the panic politics. Right?

Starting point is 02:00:44 What? Nah, but he treated, you treated music the same way coming in here and telling us how to street fight. He's not fighting for any politics. Right. Nah, but he treated, you treated music the same way because it's like you wouldn't even, you used to beef with people just because they were standing next to somebody you didn't like. And you would punch first. What you're saying is I know how your perception of me is from

Starting point is 02:01:00 just viewing the culture and stuff like that, but look at right now our culture standing next to the wrong person means you're their ops. Yeah, no, no, no, I agree with it. But I'm just saying you would shoot first. If a street culture and anybody that put themselves too close to someone who was not associated with you

Starting point is 02:01:19 or anti you, you treated them the same way as that. Like, you know, like there's no, that's not even new. That is really what you see happening. And- But then when you're thinking about it, music business wise, it's like, hey, let me just do a record with somebody who got a little heat right now, just because.

Starting point is 02:01:35 Right, but then you look, when they have, when they got any type of gang references in their music or gang culture, they know that if they're associated with this person and then they go try to associate with the other one, that they put themselves in a serious situation. Gotcha. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:01:50 Like the people around is looking at, nah, they was just over there with them. I feel that. So even, you know, even if they're not, they could just not be in control when it happens to you. Cause you was just with this person and you came over there and the rest of the crew was feeling like that.

Starting point is 02:02:05 The artist is not usually the leader of that crew. But that's how you know those weren't real because those people you made up with, like Jada, Fat, you made up with them. But the people you still got beef with, that's real beef. Right, because you look and you say, that's competitive, like our culture being competitive. They didn't say anything to Hell Merit that would allow me to, years later, still dislike the person.

Starting point is 02:02:31 You know what I'm saying? I feel like you even said you really like Jada's music. I do. Yeah, he's nice. Jada, look, you can't be good if you can't hear good. Oh yeah. If you can't hear good music when you're going. If you have bad taste.

Starting point is 02:02:47 How the fuck you make good music. Or if you can't hear it. So other people, I look and go, yeah, this nigga, okay. You think you can take me, huh, nigga? Bitch, come on. Come on, bitch. You're playing with me.

Starting point is 02:03:02 You know what I mean? Like this motherfucker's good. That's why I'm fighting fuckaboo. Do you feed off that? Yeah. Like the competitive nature of things. If you don't have good competitors, then what you do?

Starting point is 02:03:13 And they look at that. Are you like that with everything? Are you just music? Are you like that with your show? You need to have the highest ratings. I want to see. And I'm rating specifically for me because I'm not receiving the accolades connected

Starting point is 02:03:25 to the performance. So the validation comes from the people watching. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm with my People Choice Awards. I don't give a fuck about the other things. Based on the actual performance of the material, that's what I care about. And then the networks are on the same side.

Starting point is 02:03:41 So they'll look and they'll go, nah, this shit is the biggest shit we got. They don't care if there was a trophy received based on it, but you know, I say this when I say this, my publicist cringes every time I say this. All right. Get ready. I'm going to say this, guys. According to the Emmys, the most talented black man in the world is RuPaul. Why is that?

Starting point is 02:04:05 You would love that. That's a very PC way to look at it. Amanda, that's crazy. We support RuPaul's talent. The LGBTQ community out here. Google, Google, Google, how many nominations? It'll pop up for like a whopping 19 nominations. And you know, they pick what to support.

Starting point is 02:04:13 And then the other thing is like, I'm not going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that.

Starting point is 02:04:21 I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. up for like a whopping 19 nominations. Yeah, yeah. And you know, it's, they pick what to support. Yeah. And then the other things that are there, you can outperform succession, you can outperform, we can see the numbers and they got,

Starting point is 02:04:35 and that giving that a trophy. Yeah. Because it's diversity versus... Wow. I mean, this is... 14 awards, 25 nominations. Yeah, yeah you see but you also can't validate yourself by these things no but if you want a trophy go drag baby that's a good idea actually that's the way you go like you know if your content is in that area there is a higher

Starting point is 02:04:59 probability that you're working but if it doesn't work you know i mean big mama's house he didn't get no Oscar. I know, but look what I just said, man. You saw how many nominations that was, bro? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So no one's even close. There's no limit.

Starting point is 02:05:15 There's a close second. I'm just saying that if there wasn't a clear... Yeah, yeah. Stop it. Is there anything you've ever failed at? Yeah, yeah, yeah, stop it. Is there anything you've ever failed at? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But most people, the true friendship, right? What does that mean? How many people you know married and divorced?

Starting point is 02:05:34 Oh, yeah. How many times you've been with somebody that you thought would be with you? Yeah. You see what I'm saying? So without even having the penalty of being married and then being divorced, when that person is not the person for you,

Starting point is 02:05:49 then that's where you fell. You sit next to two people that their first girlfriend are now their wives. Yeah. Yeah. They're married to each other. Yeah. That's my brother. What? No, no.

Starting point is 02:06:01 Me and him. Yeah. I did it. They've only slept with one two. Yup. I admit it. They've only slept with one woman. One woman. Yeah. You serious?

Starting point is 02:06:09 Yeah, but my wife when I was 17, 18 years old. That girl, she was amazing. Just kidding. Come on. I thought she was no joke. Yo, honestly, he wouldn't know. He really wouldn't know. But that shit wiped out the confusion.

Starting point is 02:06:17 The kid can't get better than this. No, the kid can't get better than this. God, thank you. Compared to the two of you, I think you're better than this. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. It can't get better than this. No, it can't get better than this. God, thank you.

Starting point is 02:06:25 Compared to the diddlin', this boy is awesome, man. This guy's actually, I'm gonna take your number, we're gonna be friends. Let's do it. I can't wait. I know he's going home, his fucking wife, right? Yeah. He doesn't have really crazy friends and shit like that. I'll raise his shit, go ahead.

Starting point is 02:06:33 He's got to go home. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home.

Starting point is 02:06:41 I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home. I know he's going home, his fucking wife, right? Yeah, mm-hmm. He doesn't have really crazy friends and shit like that. He's not a racist shit-goer. He's got some crazy friends. He's got some crazy friends, but this guy's good crazy.

Starting point is 02:06:52 Okay, okay. You know what I mean? Like, I think, man, you're about to make a checklist. You wanna do a TV show? Yeah. Let's do a different TV show. I mean, we gotta talk first because you already know your shit. But it's like, no, no, no, no. We can make some moves on one man. I don't make moves. That's what's good.

Starting point is 02:07:10 Everybody eats over here. Shit just seems a little more stable than usual. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? He says, you two first woman. Same. Same. Yeah. That's the first time I heard that shit before. Yeah. We got two of them. That's the first time I heard that shit before. Yeah. We got two of them. That shit is crazy.

Starting point is 02:07:28 If you ask my wife, I'm the best dick she ever had. It's true. Same. That's nice. She doesn't know how much better it can get my wife. Do you block your computer from pornography? No. Because she knows there's other dick out there.

Starting point is 02:07:44 She would have to know that there's a difference. She has to be absolutely satisfied. She fucks with you, baby. So fuck. How long has that been? We've been together like 10 years. 10 years? Yeah, and we just had a baby two months ago.

Starting point is 02:07:59 Wow. So we're doing it. How long? Nine years. Coming in her no baby. For nine years? Yeah. How long? You, how long? Nine years, coming in or no baby. So. So. For nine years? Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 02:08:07 Yeah. Yeah. Did you get a dog yet? We got a dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a baby already. Yeah, exactly. That's the start.

Starting point is 02:08:16 Fuck that, you said nine years. Anything that lasts nine years is good. Mm-hmm, she's great. Yeah, but the relationship shit is hard. Making it work. Yeah. Just people are difficult, hard. Making it work. Yeah. Just people are difficult, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:08:28 Look at you. How long you lasted? Bitch, you not special. Yeah, motherfucker. Last four? I got a silent form. Last four? I got a silent form.

Starting point is 02:08:36 Son, you know, we not all perfect. You're from Far Rock, boy. I know, you didn't last. You didn't last so much. The bonds lasted as long as yours. Bro. Exactly. You know what? Farah Boy. I know you didn't last, you didn't last a month. The bonds lasted as long as yours.

Starting point is 02:08:47 Bro. Exactly. Exactly. Bro. Bro. This is the stuff. This is why you can't be with 50, bro. It always comes back around.

Starting point is 02:08:56 It always comes back around. At least I'm not doing the Tyrese shit. What's the Tyrese shit? What's Tyrese doing? You think you gonna take this from me? I would shoot, stab, and kill for mine. Wow. He would shoot, stab, and kill.

Starting point is 02:09:13 For his what? For the child support. Oh. He don't want to pay that money. He don't want to pay the child support. Yeah, but he's never stayed in California. You know better than to stay in California. You remember that sign right there that said Hollywood?

Starting point is 02:09:21 Yeah. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes.

Starting point is 02:09:33 That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes.

Starting point is 02:09:41 That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. That's been held up by the bones of hoes. Oh my God. To be in Hollywood. I didn't know that. To meet people who were successful. Oh my God. Damn, it's crazy how that works. Yeah, they traveled from Iowa. Yeah. Oh, Oklahoma.

Starting point is 02:09:51 Because some of them, they were special. No, they traveled there. Yeah, wow. To meet someone and ran out of gas. Yeah. To meet someone and they met them. Yeah. And they just, you know, to support that Hollywood sign,

Starting point is 02:10:04 they used. Yeah, they used the bones. Yeah. And they just, you know, to support that Hollywood sign they use. That shit got me. They use the bones. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. I had no idea. It doesn't always work out. Sometimes you gotta teach how pilates.

Starting point is 02:10:15 Yeah, that's the best shit. Because if you ain't got nothing else going on, at least be doing some pilates. Right? Right. But you see how he piped down, you see how he got quiet when I said he was last long? No, no, I'm good.

Starting point is 02:10:28 I'm in a happy relationship. You've been in a happy relationship? Yeah. She's not legally in America. He threatens to send her away. No, stop. He said, he said, he said, I got Trump's number. You going all in and keep complaining, yo.

Starting point is 02:10:36 You try that shit, we going to make America great. I told you this, but the amount of people from Trump's team that asked me to get in contact with you, bro, the amount of people, they're like, yo, we just need him to come out to many men. To come in and do it. Is there any, how many people hit you up? Well, yeah, I got contacted a few times,

Starting point is 02:11:01 but when I didn't, I wasn't able to do it. The last time that they was calling me, because I already had previous obligations, they was coming to New York. Yeah, to do MSG. Yeah, and they had reached out to us. Well, they went with Tony Hinchcliffe, I think, and that went well, so.

Starting point is 02:11:15 Yeah. Tony's the comedian who performed there. That was some wild shit. Shout out Tony. Tony and Tony, man. He has garbage in the water. He's not from New York. He would understand. He would, wow. I was like, yo. He said garbage in the water. He's not from New York. He would understand.

Starting point is 02:11:25 He would, wow. I was like, yo. He said shit I wasn't sure was OK. I'm finished, I said shit all the time. I was like, whoa, what the fuck was that? I'm like, yo, maybe I should not have been there. Like the way he went off, he went off. Yeah, he went off.

Starting point is 02:11:42 Shout out Tony, man. Everyone gets these jokes, baby. We gotta disrupt things at points. That's... Now, so when they reach out... Okay, first of all, when you see him get shot... Yeah, I'm like, oh shit. I didn't know what was going on, but I never seen anybody... Trump did some other shit. He went down, and they had that picture, you see like under the leg? That little picture and shit, and then they was putting that on the news,

Starting point is 02:12:07 and then when he got up, he was like, fight. That's a little shit. I was like sinking into the couch that I was in at the time because I was like, there you go, you see the fist right there, you was fighting. Did you have any PTSD from that? No, no. Because it was happening, it felt like everybody else didn't know

Starting point is 02:12:27 that it was happening. Because the people didn't run. Yeah, they were still cheering. They didn't. In the back. Yeah. They stayed there. You know how in the nightclub something happened

Starting point is 02:12:36 and they can not even hear it because the music is playing so loud and then you see everybody run. So when you see nothing, nobody moving, you're like, yo, did that shit just happen? What does it feel like when you get shot? Like a piercing. Really?

Starting point is 02:12:50 It's moving fast, the bullet soles, like getting a big piercing. Really? But it burns, right? Yeah, this is the gunpowder. Interesting. Okay, so and then, that, I don't think that was saying,

Starting point is 02:13:01 was the injury was big enough for him to feel anything. No. Yeah, no. I don't think people know his story, what he has for him to feel anything. No. Yeah, no. I don't think people know his story when he got shot. Yeah, like that. Yeah, that's like getting a piercing. But you got shot face. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry.

Starting point is 02:13:14 He was getting shot, then correct me if I'm wrong. You're like trying to dodge the bullets. Yeah, I got shit in the hand. He's like moving, trying to move away from the guy, point blank shooting at him. Then he still had time to get in the car, take his gun out. No, I was in the car. Oh, he was in the car. So then he points his gun at the guy. The guy shoots his hand, shoots the gun out of his hand. That's why he likes action movies.

Starting point is 02:13:41 Then you can't do nothing. Oh, you can't pull the trigger beads your whole hand. But imagine having that wherewithal. Somebody's shooting at you and you still have the wherewithal. You do try, like your brain don't start working. Like the, the, the. The day to my shit just stopped working. If you react to the noise.

Starting point is 02:13:55 Yeah. As far as the, then you. You like your survival instincts kick in. Yeah, you start. That shit's crazy. Moving around in the backseat. And what a crazy coincidence that that guy's just like through a few weeks later, like something happened. Yeah. Like. It's happened to people who involve themselves in the backseat. And what a crazy coincidence that that guy is just like, threw a few weeks later, like something happened.

Starting point is 02:14:05 Yeah. Like, what's happened to people who involve themselves in lifestyle? Yeah, it's just so insane. So that is crazy. Yeah, man. That is insane. That scared me.

Starting point is 02:14:15 That scared me. That scared me. Yo, if I say, hey, did they piss you off today at Bobcat? That was scary. That was insane. It's all on YouTube. I guess nobody, he ain't say nothing that everybody is saying. Wow. It's crazy out here in these streets, man.

Starting point is 02:14:35 So that was happening in Queens that whole time. Yeah, yeah. I was just in Manhattan, bro. We were going to like a youth basketball league and stuff like that. Yeah, we were cool out here. going to like youth basketball leagues and stuff like that. It was cool. I was not doing that to him. That is part of the, you know, like the more extreme part of the experience. Was that the first time you'd ever been shot at? No.

Starting point is 02:14:54 That was the first time I hit like that. Yeah. And do you think it changed your trajectory? Like, would you still be the same 50 Cent you are today if you didn't go through that? No. Wait, what changed? Well, after following it. It turned into a superhero.

Starting point is 02:15:07 Not changing the- But like psychologically, what changed in you? Oh, well, there's no, what's the name? You didn't have to, I didn't even know how it works without responding to it. But when I come back to make the music, the themes are real up. Get rich or die trying.

Starting point is 02:15:27 They looking like I could die before the record even comes out because of the threat level, the things that's going on at the same time. And then you're going, this would be a good time to change the narrative, right? You just got shot nine times. You gotta be saying the same shit you were saying. But saying the same thing is-

Starting point is 02:15:42 Made it true, made it authentic and pure. Yes. Do you have to like, immediately afterward, are you going, okay, I gotta show strength right now, like in who you are? Are you doing the fight, fight, fight? I wasn't even thinking that, you know, I was more on not allowing them to see me hurt. You know what I mean? So I was like, even aint nothing. I wouldn't let them come into the hospital.

Starting point is 02:16:07 Who, even who? Yeah, yo, Tony. So you didn't let Tony come to the hospital? Uh-uh, tell him I'm good. I'm gonna be all right. I'll give him a phone. Yo, you all right? Yeah, cause I had the braces,

Starting point is 02:16:16 and they were shot in the face. So I'm like, yo. Kanye try to copy your whole shit. Yeah, he threw the wire. That was only a car accident. Yeah, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, keep your eyes open. I was only a car accident. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, keep your eyes open.

Starting point is 02:16:26 You got shot the fuck up, bro. Yeah. Yeah. It's not the same. It's not the same. No, but it is actually more dangerous. The car is more dangerous than fucking you got a higher probability.

Starting point is 02:16:37 I'll take my chances with the car, bro. Technically speaking. You got shot. Yeah, it's nice. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Stay on it. So that's interesting.

Starting point is 02:16:44 You're even showing strength to your team. You're telling them, you don't want them to see you work at all. Right, because they will always follow me, they will always listen to me. So if I tell you I'm aite, but then you look and you see I'm shot, my hand shot, I'm shot in the face, leg shot up, shit, like, you know you're not. You can tell me you're aite when you got a hole in your face and I'm just like, nah, you got a hole in your face. Alright, just like, nah, you got a hole in your face. All right, so I'd rather them not see me like that. This is the human instinct thing

Starting point is 02:17:10 that I'm always so surprised by. It's like, usually someone in that position wanna be surrounded by the people they love and wanna protect them and you're constantly in leadership mode. You are constantly leading. Yeah, at that point, cause they had, they've always been under me.

Starting point is 02:17:25 Like, before we was on the corner. That's why it seems like he doesn't stop talking about me to a degree, like, yeah, cause he'll look and go, he said that was gonna happen and it happened. But he's saying that about everything. Yes. That's... You know what I mean?

Starting point is 02:17:42 And he's like, yo, let me see what you... Yo, listen, let me just better listen... Yo, listen, now let me just better listen when you say shit, because shit be happening. Yo, there was a time... First of all, you guys are hilarious together. When we were leaving Dre's, the meme came to life. We were leaving Dre's, and then one point, I think you go, he was saying some shit,

Starting point is 02:18:02 and then you popped up, you're like, why are you saying fuck me for? Like, we literally watched it. It come to existence. Now he'll say anything out of his mouth. Because we've been around each other for so long, he's just like, whatever, he calls shit. Yeah, all wars and shit like that, he calls it.

Starting point is 02:18:19 And go, yo, you know why? Because he was saying this about you. I'm like, but I didn't tell you to do that. Yeah. Right, what the fuck did you just slap this man's kid for? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, just go. Why was shit that happened?

Starting point is 02:18:36 I'm like, yo, bro. Yeah, that was crazy. That was a crazy one. Wait, what happened? I'll let him talk about it. You talked about the house pit on fire. It's a good one bro. I didn't say you did it.

Starting point is 02:18:48 I just said the house pit on fire. Talk about the shit I didn't do bro. No, at this time I'm afraid of Yoyo. Yoyo will still put that work in. Yeah man, he talking about Jimmy Hennsman. So he had beef with Jimmy Hennsman, and then they were out, I think he was at Rucker Park or something like that.

Starting point is 02:19:11 Yeah, they started Apollo. Oh, it started at the Apollo, okay. And they see his kid outside. Oh no. Somehow apparently, Jimmy Hennsman's kid got smacked. How old's the child? I think he was like 16, 17. Yeah, 16, 17.

Starting point is 02:19:26 You can slap that at 16, 17. OK. He put a hoodie on. Yeah, like, you see him with a hoodie? Yeah. Yeah. You look like you went to shit. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:19:37 Yeah. He can't help himself, though. I know. He literally cannot help himself. I don't have a problem with these guys, bro. Like, this is one of the things that I've become involved in all of this shit. I'm not there, man.

Starting point is 02:19:50 I'm in Connecticut. You know, just what Jada Kisett on the record, right? You're in Connecticut. I'm in Connecticut, bro. I get involved in this shit. They said I was in the truck. Isn't it hard for everybody to love you? Everybody loves you now. And even when you beef with people,

Starting point is 02:20:10 if they come back, they're kind of corny. This is not the position you're used to. No, it's love and fear, though. I think people are afraid of them, too. It's like love and fear. I think it's a different... The fear used to be like violence and now it's public humiliation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think more people are afraid that you'll get on their ass no ditty. I don't want people to,

Starting point is 02:20:31 I don't get anything out of them feeling like I'll be violent. Yeah, yeah, I don't think you'll be violent. That's not the goal for me, tough as not to go. I look at the what's name, the social part is me like just having a voice. Got it.

Starting point is 02:20:50 The audience, they look and I'll say things and go, oh. And they may be like, I wouldn't say that about like that person. But who I see that person as, like they don't mean enough for me to not say it. Do you understand? Like I think, like they don't mean enough for me to not say it. Do you understand? Like I think, cause I don't take myself so serious. So I definitely don't take them that serious.

Starting point is 02:21:11 When you feel like, you know, I'm looking going, come on bro, you had a couple of records, man. Fuck out of here with that shit. Like, you know, like, that shit matters on a day when we're thinking about the records. Yeah, but outside of that. Yeah, outside of that, it doesn't matter.

Starting point is 02:21:25 There was a, you're so funny. There's a, the second the shit happened with Jay, and I knew it too, I went to your page, I was like, I know he gonna do something. And you were promoting a show and you were like, the caption of the picture was, I don't know why y'all here, but I got my residency coming. I can't help it. Noall here, but I got my residency coming. Wait, how did you wait for me to do it? And then be angry with me when I do it. Later when you go, Oh, I'm the people that were there immediately. I'm talking about the shit jumped to 400 responses.

Starting point is 02:22:02 Soon as I could refresh it and I go responses, and I look and they go, yeah, for don't think, wait till it's your turn. This is a snap. And I'm like, well, goddamn, you just want everybody to go down on that fucking boat, don't you? It's a good thing I was never in none of these parties. You know, I'm like, what is this? It's not an issue for me.

Starting point is 02:22:19 Hey, but then you see that, you get, you people, they enjoy that shit. Like, I think anything that they think is is negative about I don't delete people. I don't block people. Oh, you gotta keep them around. Yeah, cuz they changed their mind I don't need you to be deleted You change your mind you gonna roll with the shit that's going on what about like people Comments that are just like I'm just trying to ruin your day. I'm just coming here with negative shit. You don't block that?

Starting point is 02:22:46 It doesn't matter. It can't matter. Did you have to not, look. If it matters enough for you to block him, it means they will affect him. Yeah, don't let them affect you. Don't let them. I'm just saying it's like.

Starting point is 02:22:56 They take that as a win. Yes. That's their dub. They want you to block him. They keep that as a win, but I'm serving my peace of mind. It's like, I don't, if you're not coming here, if it's not constructive criticism, then it's like. Yeah, you're saying that as a win, but I'm preserving my peace of mind. It's like, if you're not coming here, if it's not constructive criticism, then it's like.

Starting point is 02:23:07 Yeah, you're saying that it's poison and you just don't want to hear. Like what the fuck I need to. That's fair too, you can do it. But I mean, the ultimate Ws, they keep on commenting nonstop and you just laugh. I know that people think that way about me though. I know that that energy is there.

Starting point is 02:23:21 That's true, because you do give, like you kinda poke the bear a little bit. I don't care, look, if you can't, if it's not gonna ask it for that energy. There's a way, see, because you don't feel that. Because when you're in the public space, you feel it all the time. So there's a, because everyone has a right

Starting point is 02:23:39 to a public opinion. Of course. So when they do that, you see that, you go, oh, okay, cool. And then, look, if someone had a negative energy towards you or felt a certain way, you go, why you feel that way about me? Because what did I do that made you feel like that? You can feel it. Me, if they feel negative, it's just how they feel today. I'm here to entertain for entertainment purposes. If it entertains them to be upset, they can be upset.

Starting point is 02:24:07 If they wanna be angry, they can be angry. And then they'll be entertained by it. And then later they'll see something that's effective that comes from me that makes them go, ah, maybe he was right. You're the joker. Yeah. So you can't really, when you're in the public space,

Starting point is 02:24:22 look, look, this relationship, we was talking about relationships, imagine you invite't really, when you're in the public space, look at this relationship, we just talked about relationships. Imagine you invite someone in, right? Because you date someone when you're in the public space, and you go out with the person, they see you with the person. What you just did is invite the general public to your house. Now they can have a good time, they can have dinner, you drinks everything, and then with time for you,

Starting point is 02:24:40 you let them go home, okay guys, go home. They go fuck you, we're not going home. We're staying in your business. You should have never invited us in. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they stay there and they make up all kind of shit and everything. But you've given them the right to do that

Starting point is 02:24:53 when you put this person into the book. Got it. This motherfucker's a joker. He's a joker and Diddy was just dressing up as him that Halloween, right? Ha ha, that's fucked up. That is really fucked up. Did he just say that? I'm like, ha, that's fucked up. That is really fucked up.

Starting point is 02:25:05 Did he just say that? I'm like, yeah. Ha ha ha. Did he just dress it up? No, Diddy was the diddler. Will you visit Diddy in jail? No, I wouldn't go to, do you think this might be too early?

Starting point is 02:25:18 No, no, once he's, once he's. It might be too early. He just got there. He's not even saying no. He's not even saying it's too soon. But I'm saying once he gets like locked up, locked up, like once he gets sentenced, will you go out to the prison and will you visit him just for funsies? I don't know.

Starting point is 02:25:33 You know, look, because think of it. Right now he can feel like I'm his enemy. Wait, right now? Wait, what? Why would he feel that way? I mean, I'm not his enemy. The federal government is. Okay, but I mean, he could have multiple enemies and he can-

Starting point is 02:25:42 But I'm not his enemy. You could be on his op-list. I'm not why. I'm not why. I'm not why. I'm not why. I'm not his enemy, the federal government is. Okay, but I mean, he can have multiple enemies. But I'm not his enemy. You could be on his op-list. I'm not why you shouldn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not in the position because of that.

Starting point is 02:25:52 Right now, he's got to fight something else. Yeah, that's true. Okay. But the lens is a little different. If you have such a big platform, and I'm going through this horrible thing, and then you just keep highlighting this horrible thing that I'm going through Yeah, I'm looking at you as my enemy at the same time

Starting point is 02:26:09 Am I highlighting this horrible thing that you're going through that everyone else is not going through in this person at the same time? It's not like everybody doesn't know we all do it the same way We all don't have a million bajillion followers So what about TMZ? Are they ops? Yes TMZ is ops? Yeah Unless they're promoting something good you do,

Starting point is 02:26:25 then they're the homies. Also, how often is TMZ reporting good shit? Before this. You know what I mean? He be like, come on, man, fuck these people. Yeah, but. Talk about they thinking, you understand what I'm doing? I get it, but it's they think.

Starting point is 02:26:37 And they gonna pay me for this shit, man, big money. That's right, there's a- No, I love this shit. Hold on, we here for that shit. We here for it. Wait, wait, wait, wait. The lens, the way you see it, look, they said the downfall of Diddy and he hadn't had a downfall. He wasn't even convicted of anything. Oh, that's right. He's innocent to prove him guilty.

Starting point is 02:26:55 They the docs that have already gone out have already done things to damage the public. The responsibility to have the doc. The documentary you're working on, what does it highlight in this documentary? Let's just say I have a responsibility to make it as fair, as true, as possible. And I'm not the director of the doc. You gotta have- I just talk to them about directing it the right way.

Starting point is 02:27:20 I'm executive producing the project. Okay. Meaning I could give people that would not get on camera to get on camera to do it. Because it's 50 call instead of it being this. You know what would be funny if you were like, I think he butt fucked all those guys consensually.

Starting point is 02:27:33 No, no. I can make the whole thing about how it's not. He did it for love. No, he loves the guys butts. That's the whole argument. That's what you're going to have to argue. Because the only thing, like, look, with all these accusations, you think he has a ton of things

Starting point is 02:27:45 that he's facing in the criminal situation. It's not, all of that. Until they have a superseded indictment or bring new charges, this shit is about Cassie and about Lil Rod. Who's Lil Rod? That was the one, the producer. He's the producer, he claimed it.

Starting point is 02:28:02 Yeah, it was another allegation. Yeah, but those, between that, that's what he's actually dealing with. He's the producer, he clean up. It's another allegation. Yeah, but those between that, that's what he's actually dealing with, he's not dealing with it. But you hear so much shit that it feels like forget about it. Nothing wrong with having some baby oil. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:28:15 A thousand bottles. It's a little something wrong with that. It's a lot of bottles. It's a little excessive. Nothing wrong with playing with it, you know what I mean? As long as it's consensual. Yeah. Yeah. How many people have different habits?

Starting point is 02:28:24 Yeah. A thousand bottles. As long as it's consensual. Yeah. Yeah. How many people have different habits? Yeah. How many people? As long as it's consensual. Yeah. But if you spike the baby oil, it's slow. My experience with baby oil is you can't use a lot of it, like that much. Yeah. You know, like, you know, it's just not... What if you're trying to get into a place that's really small, but look what I'm saying.

Starting point is 02:28:41 I'm saying to you, my whole body is all you, like, I'm like a fucking... All you slick, and'm like a fucking, all you slick and we only use the quarter of it. A quarter of the bottle. Your whole body shine. A little goes a long way with baby. Yes. So what the fuck is the deal, bro? Why'd you need a thousand bottles of it?

Starting point is 02:28:58 I mean, come on. Well, it's just cheaper if you buy a bulk, right? Like, I think that's what business is. The fuck, bro. Yeah, it's like nobody ever ran out of book, right? Like, I think that's what business is. What the fuck, bro? Yeah, it's like nobody ever ran out of Vaseline. Like, I don't think I ever bought a Vaseline 10 again. The question is, where do they get these drugs from?

Starting point is 02:29:12 Like, where the fuck does this stuff come from? I don't see this stuff, like, at the local drug store when you go there. You have to go find a fucking elephant tranquilizer to give someone, you know what I mean? Like, and I'm going. Allegedly. Allegedly.

Starting point is 02:29:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying how often do you have it consistently for the party every time there's a party? There was an elephant tranquilizer. All kind of shit, bro. Maybe it was an Indian wedding. An Indian wedding? Yeah, maybe half of the elephants are Indian.

Starting point is 02:29:36 They bring elephants to the wedding. We don't tranquilize it. No, you're not the end of the wedding year. Guys, quick announcement. There's a comedian named Matthew Broussard who is absolutely hilarious and he just put out his first YouTube special. It's on YouTube right now.

Starting point is 02:29:51 Go watch it, go blow it up, okay? Leave amazing comments. Let's make this shit explode. I love Matthew, he's amazing. And the special's called Hyperbolic, okay? I'll be posting a clip from it and I'll send it, put a link in my Instagram or whatever. But I want you guys to go watch it.

Starting point is 02:30:07 He's very fucking funny, great joke writer, and I think you guys are gonna really like it. He's also a great dude, okay? So go support, flagrant, full support. Get behind him, and not like, you know. You know what I mean? This is, you know, this is, we're gonna get, we're gonna support him. Get behind him emotionally.

Starting point is 02:30:26 Emotionally, yes, emotionally get behind him. But also, yeah, you know what to do. So, Future, Future for 50 Cent, dominate TV, dominate film. Is there anything else that you've looked at throughout your life that you've wanted to enter that the people don't know about yet? No, no, like I'm, I think things are changing.

Starting point is 02:30:48 Like the technology is changing the way even the film projects are working. Yeah. So I'll be a little AI for it. Are you gonna be, oh, you're gonna lean into the tech side of it? Yeah, yeah. Cause it thinks it'll allow me to do things

Starting point is 02:31:01 that you wouldn't have to do practically. Exactly, you don't have to shoot on this elaborate set. To do it. You can do it digitally. So look at it like when I get to Shreveport, half of what the editing bay was will be AI technicians and then the other half will be... I mean, the Zora stuff is amazing.

Starting point is 02:31:16 You've seen Zora? It's unbelievable. Zora is chat cheapy tease. Yeah, it's open AI, like video AI model. It's made. Yeah, it's OpenAI, it's a video AI model. Yeah, you posted something with using Sora recently, I feel. Yeah, Tyler had showed me stuff. Because they show him demos of things as soon as they come out. Oh, I was talking about the one with Diddy and Jay-Z walking around with them.

Starting point is 02:31:40 Oh, I think that's apps. That's like a little app. That was AI? That was AI. You know, I look at it, this shit comes across, it comes across my feed and I'm laughing at it. And then I go, oh no, no, people will fall out of our post-its. I'm gonna post that. And I just do it. I just do it and then... It's like, you love this shit. You love this shit.

Starting point is 02:32:05 It was funny though, it was done, that one particularly was done well. Yeah, you like the art of it. You just like that it was produced. You're an artist. I'm like, what the shit? And it's just. Oh, okay, okay, before we go,

Starting point is 02:32:15 I have to tell you this one thing. There was this story of this Instagram guy in Florida that killed his girl or whatever. The people said I look like. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And you hit me, you're like, yo, we're doing this movie and you're playing, right? I swear to God, he DMs me from jail and he goes,

Starting point is 02:32:37 what, I heard you're doing my movie. He goes, I heard you doing my movie. He goes, I heard you doing my movie. I'd He goes, I heard you do it in my movie. I'd like to talk to you about it so that you can honor the character. I swear to God. What's his name? His name is Aladdin or some shit. What is his name?

Starting point is 02:32:53 That was the number one, the highest rated doc you series on Peacock. Oh really? Yeah that one right there with the mustache and goatee. Wow. Yeah and he got a lot of crazy performances so it's a real active piece. So I'm like, yo my boy got it coming. Yeah he's a lesbian. Olly Aluban.

Starting point is 02:33:17 Olly, Olly, Olly. Yeah ask him. Ask him on his Instagram. Yeah anyway so we might have to work but I feel like we should consult him at least. No listen we got the docu-series side of his already done in development on the script aside I'll be right back to you with that Ladies and gentlemen The goat. Yep, somehow he has managed to maintain his authentic

Starting point is 02:33:40 This is most impressive part maintain his authenticity while working in the most inauthentic businesses that exist today. This is Curtis, 50 Cent Jackson. Thank you so much, my brother. I appreciate you, man. Thank you so much.

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