Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Ahmaud Arbery Killing... Andrew Schulz & Akaash Singh React

Episode Date: May 8, 2020

This week Andrew, Akaash, AlexxMedia and Mark discuss Ahmaud Arbery, no more fat Adele, the Earl Thomas video, Alexx almost getting a lap dance from Beyonce, and much more. INDULGE! Want a new episode every week? Become a Patron! www.Patreon.com/FLAGRANT2

it's the confirmation of your greatest fear yeah our greatest fear is i mean when i say r i'm talking about the black community yeah but uh no but the greatest fear i imagine the black community is that uh not only will you be gunned down in public but the person that guns you down will have some connection to law enforcement and the law enforcement will cover it up in a certain way and then you'll never receive justice that's like the plot line for a movie or a TV show or a docuseries, right? This is not something that should happen in real life. And it appears as if that's what's happened. Yeah.

Fuck! Which it sucks, man. Yeah. You know, bro, that's not America. That's not America as it's been sold to us. that's not america that's not america as it's been sold to us but unfortunately like as a black person we have to just like go on every day it's still in our mind and he was jogging yeah we have to like just imagine that this shit isn't happening just so we can live because imagine you just live in fear every single fucking day yeah so it's like it's in our mind we i know this can

happen i know they could be the a weird traffic stop where something just gets taken out of hand boom you know people were getting offended during like uh the world war three was trending when black people just had a bunch of black people just had a bunch of funny memes about world war three and a lot of people were like how can you make jokes about something like this maybe it's like yeah man we we have to learn to cope we've just been having to learn to cope. So if some shit pops off that could be crazy, we're going to make jokes about it. At least now it's all of us

in this danger together. Yeah. It is interesting you just have to like go on with your day about it. I don't do that. It's kind of like, you know,

like you hear about like a shark attack at your local beach, you know, and you're like, now the chances of that happening to me are very small. Yeah. That being said, when you're in the water and you're like now the chances of that happening to me yeah are very small yeah

that being said when you're in the water and you like you see a little splash or you feel something rub up against your leg you're like yo yo yo so you probably i assume constantly thinking yo this could happen it could be going down and then maybe it doesn't happen for six months you're like all right it's cool to be out there we're good everything's fine i'm surfing i'm swimming again and then boom all of a sudden another shark attack and that's part of the reason why uh black people sometimes when they encounter with cops they're testy because we're on edge already and then we've seen all the other videos of getting shot by cops so it's like oh wait wait i'm interacting with a cop right now i could die that's like first thought that comes to

your brain so like when you were a cop were you still afraid of cops uh no because it's like now i'm part of the gang you have a badge i just show them the badges if you ever left your badge at home would you be oh yes absolutely yeah and then what would you do to make sure that like they would know you're on like you've seen it when i've gotten pulled over it's like i'll have it open already on my lap so the moment they can peek into my window they see the badge already and different behavior the second they see the badge? Yes, absolutely. Because they're probably on some level. They're on edge too.

Yes. They don't know what they're walking to. And they've heard stories. Just as you're hearing all the stories of black people getting killed by the cops, they're hearing all the stories of cops getting killed by whoever. Yeah, on a traffic stop. At a traffic stop. So they're walking to every traffic stop going, this could be it.

They're on edge, yeah. Two people on edge. That's a recipe for it. Why don't they do a fucking town hall where they just have, and no audience, because the woo and all that kind of shit can sway you, but you just have black people

who've experienced fucked up interactions with the cops, and you have some cops of all different races, by the way. And you just have them talk and then offer some sort of, you know, why can't we have our community police in our community? And then the cops go, listen, we would like that. The problem is that not enough people are coming in and trying to be cops. And we're getting a lot of people that come and try to be cops from these legacy families that are now living out in the suburbs.

Like, what if they just had this open conversation about all the fucking issues that we think exist? And they gave actual reasons why it's difficult and and they you know told certain stories like listen we're just as scared as y'all we you it maybe cnn doesn't play it maybe fox news doesn't play it but we hear the stories in the precinct about us getting killed all the time too so we're on edge i would love to see both sides talk about it. I think this is practice. I could be wrong. But like, say, if you're a cop, if you live in Queens and become a cop, they start you in a place that you're not familiar with. Why don't they start you in the place you are? I think they're afraid of corruption because if you're cool with your homies, I'm just doing some shit is like, you know, he's effective, though.

Isn't that just a real quick, real quick. You know what else is corruption? Just shooting I'm gonna look the other way. Neighborhood policing is effective though. Isn't that just a bigger form? No, but real quick, real quick. You know what else is corruption? Just shooting the black people. True, yeah. So it's like, wouldn't you rather, I'd rather you not give a ticket to your homeboy than you just shoot some random dude. Yeah.

I think the cops would prefer that too. And that's why some of the best guys, like when I was in law enforcement, I would get cool with, like I worked in the courts, I would get cool with the prisoners. Like I would know them on a first name basis. So I don't speak to them like calling their number or just calling their last name. Like it was so informal. It's like, I would get cool with these guys. So it's like, now they're less on edge. I'm less on edge because we're all like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We already know what we're here for,

but we cool. And it's like, it's just makes for a better environment but the thing is like if you were born in long island and you just never been to the hood before and then they throw you in the hood it's like no matter how close you get to these people this is not something you're used to so it's like they're always going to be like a little bit innate feeling of like oh shit i don't know i'm not comfortable in this environment yeah so i agree with you they should police their own areas but as you said one is probably not enough people feeling like oh shit i don't know i'm not comfortable in this environment yeah so i agree with you they should police their own areas but as you said one is probably not enough people from their own areas to work and then two it's like you have the possibility of corruption isn't neighborhood policing though like you would have them live there and then over time they get

to know everybody etc and they become a part of the community that polices it as opposed to some guy driving in from fucking poughkeepsie i would i would say that you have the right to live wherever you want to live as a cop you know i mean like they i don't think they should force you to live in a community if you don't want to like you know what if you become a cop because you're trying to get your family out of a certain neighborhood i'd rather you go to work there and then you police that neighborhood because you're familiar with everybody but if you're trying to get your kids into a better school district or that kind of shit,

you could afford a house and a suburb as I go for it. That's another thing is I think a lot of cops don't get paid that well. And so you get, so there's no real incentive to be a cop.

Like potentially my life is on the line and I'm getting paid dog shit. I don't, most smart people aren't going to want to be cops. So you're going to get a lot of people

who probably aren't super smart being like, all right, I'll be a cop. Yeah. And if you incentivize it more, you might weed out some of those people. And then if you get paid a lot, I don't want to throw the job away on some dumb shit. So if I'm getting paid six figures, let me fucking think this through before I act. Yeah.

Yeah. The paying cops a lot or paying teachers a lot is always tricky because it could also attract people that aren't good for the job but just want the money. I would take that loss. You think? Yeah. To me, the cost is worth the reward. I would take that loss.

I mean, I'm sure they have some sort of IQ test or whatever to be a cop, right? Apparently, if you're too smart, you got to be a detective. Oh, really? Because you'll get bored of being a cop. I'm not sure how that works. I know you have to test to become detectives. Like, you have to study for it's an actual test just to become a detective. Yeah, you would know better than me.

That's just the thing I've heard throughout the years. If you're too smart as a cop, they actually make you a detective. I think it's just people saying how they actually feel. I felt like my brain was dying with what I was doing before. I wasn't utilizing my brain in any capacity. You were just sitting there. I was like a glorified security guard for the most part like i'm just like making sure nothing happens here but i'm just like hey sit down shut up take your hat off put your phone away that type of shit and then

every once in a while you know maybe prisoners got a little antsy and we have to like check them or whatever but i i never felt like i was using my brain at all i was bored every single day at work and you probably cope with that? It was tough. I was doing this on the side. But before this? I think I always had a side project of some sort. Always something to distract me or something to look forward to when I'm not here.

And kind of dumb cops are probably better for the department because they just listen to orders. They do what you tell them to do. Yeah, I wouldn't call them dumb. because they just listen to orders. They do what you tell them to do. Yeah, I wouldn't call them dumb, but... No, but not dumb. If you're a cop that is more willing to listen to directions, not to think critically for yourself...

Yeah, some people enjoy that. I'm just going to do what they tell me to do. You might make for a better cop in the eyes of the department. Because he's not going to be going off being rude. But at least if you're a cop, right, and you're walking the streets, you have a beat or something like that, you can go around.

You were literally in one fucking room yeah all day pretty much yeah oh yeah yeah yeah it was rough but some people really some people like liked it they enjoyed it like they they made a security of it like so it's like part of the job was bringing prisoners from like where they're holding into the courtroom and shit like that. So there's some guys known as runners. So it's like they just enjoy getting them and bringing them to the courthouse. And it's like they're good at that where that courtroom will be more productive than another courtroom because it takes that officer twice as long. Did they like it because there was an element of danger? Or like I would honestly, if you take danger out, I would would just like moving i just don't want to be sitting so like maybe

maybe that's part of it because there's guys it's like yeah and i like to do the stairs or whatever so it's like they're getting some exercise out of it like you just have to find a way to make the job enjoyable is there a power piece to it some of the cops like oh over someone else like yeah i'm gonna go get this guy and to that end i would say those are the ones that are usually the fucked up ones what do you mean they want to flex that power any chance they get any chance they sit down yep yeah and these are guys talk down on them it's like come on so and those are the assholes you hate to work with because they're always getting to fight and then you have to jump into the fight oh and i would also say those are probably the guys who are not as intelligent because they feel in fear their whole lives.

Yeah. So suddenly they are in a position where like you got to listen to them and now they run with it. Yeah. So I think a smarter person who wouldn't feel the same level of like insecurity about having some power would be better. Not that that would never happen, but it would happen less often. Yeah, that makes sense. And if you pay more money, you're more likely to get smarter people, I think. Yeah, that makes sense.

And if you pay more money, you're more likely to get smarter people, I think. That's like, I'm not like a super heavy tax guy or whatever, but teachers, doctors, I mean, not doctors, teachers and cops, yeah, increase taxes, just pay them. I'm fine with that. Maybe the tricky thing, and look, I don't know, but maybe the tricky thing with like increasing their pay is the, what is that thing at their severance? Not severance. What is the thing? Pension.

Pension, yeah. So maybe it'd be impossible to pay them way more money if they didn't have this massive pension that was guaranteed after putting 20 years in or something like that. That's the thing. I think they deserve it because they're putting their lives on the line every day. I'm not saying they don't deserve it.

I'm just saying, how do you pay them more? Every state and probably city job has a pension attached to it so it's like you know some of these motherfuckers work in it for the state of new jersey y'all don't need a pension uh i'm sorry yeah if it goes to cops i'm willing to say y'all don't need a pension like if you want to keep the money the same and just shift it whatever yeah but i also think weirdly everybody says they're cool paying cops more but i think when the vote comes down to it people are like i don't want it but who is where the money gets wasted maybe maybe it's like everybody says hey if we tax you

three cents more or whatever city comp controller they kind of decide on how money gets allocated and then right yeah and then like the budget could go up but that don't mean it's actually going to go into the thing is like i think cops and teachers get paid way different because there were cops I know that they were pulling in heavy six figures, but they're allowed to do overtime and time and a half and work holidays and all that type of shit. How were they as cops generally? Were they better or were they the same percentage?

Still hit or miss. Still dependent on the personality. In Suffolk County. Oh, yeah. They get paid way more than New York City cops. Because you get paid based on the tax revenue of the place you're policing. It's similar to schools. There could be a public school in Beverly Hills that's fly because it's based on the taxes that are above Beverly Hills.

And the tax bracket is going to be crazy high. So the Suffolk County cops, I think, start at some absurd salary. And I think within a few years, you're going to be making $75,000. And I think that you're making six figures as a cop. And keep in mind, if you do, what, 20 years, you get full pension? Yeah, 20 years, you could retire. What does it say, Mark? Suffolk County is $50,000 annually, increasing incrementally.

And you can make $112,000 after a few years. I mean, to break up keg parties, bro? Yeah. Suffolk County is Long Island for anybody who's listening right now. i mean to break up keg parties bro yeah suffolk county's long island for anybody who's listening right now so you're breaking up keg parties you're going to i think suffolk might be the hamptons you're literally going to rich people's houses and saying hey can you turn down the music a little bit now of course there's going to be some gang shit out there in long island i'm not saying it's soft but compared to work in east new york yeah different so now the poorest neighborhoods are gonna have the worst paid cops yep yeah and low-key you want to talk about corruption if you give me power and

you don't pay me i'm gonna find a way to get the money yeah that's the shitty thing it's like they say that about new orleans got the most corrupt cops i think they're paying cops in new orleans at one point like 250 a week you're not gonna give someone a gun and the ability to tell people what to do and think that they're not going to get a little piece of something? Yeah. So it's like- You're begging them to be corrupt. I know one way that cops would make extra money is if you get a collar, if you lock

somebody up because you have to stay with that person. So it's like you have to fill out the papers with that person. You have to wait until they go into the courts and all that stuff. So it's like that's incentive to lock somebody up. So now you're just looking for any little thing. Yeah. I need some money. My girl asked for a bracelet.

Boom. We're locking people up. Let me get this quick. We pregnant again. I got to lock a lot of people up. Yeah. And lock somebody up at the end of your shift. Right.

Because when your shift is over, you have to stay and do all the paperwork over time. Time and a half over time. Yep. Oh, that's right. They wait to the end. I remember I did this show called Bronx Warrants. Yeah. But you know warrant cops? Yeah. So the warrant division is different. You literally are hunting. Yep. Oh, that's right. They wait to the end. I remember I did this show called Bronx Warrants. Yeah. But you know warrant cops?

Yeah. So the warrant division is different. You literally are hunting. Yep. You're just hunting motherfuckers and you go pick up some warrants and if you do it

at the end of your shift, you get the overtime for it. Yep. So you wait to the end of your shift, go get some fucking coffee, hang out, and then bring them to the precinct at the end

so you got to stay late. And I think that would happen regardless of how you pay cops. People are going to try to game the system and make more money but less incentivize if you pay more and i don't i think if you told rich communities like yo suffolk we're gonna actually spread this money all throughout new york i think they'd be like nah fuck that we work hard we whatever so i don't know necessarily what the solution is but that's the easiest solution is just make the money as opposed to this city pays this cop that's it this all of

it goes into the same pool and we pay cops the same essentially but i don't know if you're gonna get a lot of pushback i mean if there's some crazy thing that happens in suffolk county they're gonna call for backup right they're gonna say hey man we need all precincts on deck can you please help us out yeah no it would only be them who handles it? Yeah. Really? And then if it's like something more than that, then another division. Maybe feds come into it or the SWAT team or some shit like that. But usually- You can be completely isolated.

Hmm. I don't know, bro. The extra fucked up thing with the Ahmaud Arbery case is that it wasn't done- That's the guy who was gunned down in Georgia, by the way. Yeah. It was done- Well, one, by the way. Yeah. It was done. Well, one, they weren't on-duty cops.

They weren't even cops, were they? They weren't cops at all. I think one guy used to be a cop or he was off-duty. I'm not positive. But they have a connection where they were employed by the police department. Yeah. But they weren't cops. They weren't plainclothes in a pickup truck.

Yeah. The guy, when it's a cop altercation, weren't cops like they weren't they were in plain clothes in a pickup truck yeah the guy like like when it's a cop altercation like the guy gets pulled over yeah for like allegedly doing something wrong yeah so there's a little bit more like as far as the blame it's like a little more gray whereas with this thing it's just like just two regular racist looking guys i don't know if they are racist but like optically pickup truck is not a they look so racist like they have like a beard and yeah old and fat like oh they were racist i mean probably i mean i i'm sure i mean they're looking at this black guy jogging right that's really what we see in the video yeah there's some black guy jogging and they're in the

car and they're they're like they usually don't run that slow and then they just started shooting them out of nowhere like that that has to be, you have to have some racial prejudice. I think they suspected that someone broke into a house like two days earlier. And then slowly jogged away from the house with nothing? No, this was like two days earlier. And they were like, oh, I think that was the guy. Yeah, but he's not like a serial killer who comes back to the scene of the crime and watches people collect evidence. Like if you get away with some shit two days ago. They just saw a black person and was like, oh, it must have been the guy.

Yeah, exactly. That's it, man. It's sad. you get away with some shit two days ago. They just saw a black person and was like, oh, it must have been the guy. Yeah, exactly. That's it, man. It's sad. That shit happens. That's why I found it fascinating. Oh, I'm sorry. But I found it fascinating. The dude that you said that was on Rogan, that he goes and speaks to the KKK guys.

Yeah. He converts them. Darryl Davis. Darryl Davis, yeah. I watched it. I still didn't finish it. But it's like to be able to just speak to a person that you know might hate you and then get them to change their view. Like that's if we did that to this whole country, it would change the country.

But it's tough because it puts the obligation for change, like the impetus on change on the oppressed. On the victim. Literally like, yo, you got raped. And so now you got to go tell your rapist you forgive him. Yeah, that's true. Because it's really not up to black people to convince white people not to hate black people yeah you know what i mean like if you're the kid who was abandoned by their father it's not up to you to go to your father right and go hey i didn't mean to make this person sorry sorry i mean in the midst of a racism talk that's a bad time but you know what i'm saying

like if you're abandoned by your father whatever it is and it's not up to you to go to your father and be like hey i forgive you for doing that thing you didn't know better or this that the other right it's it should be on your father now the the maybe the more effective way to get it done is to be the kid who goes and does it but it's not your job to do not your job what i would say to that kid is you don't forgive him for him you forgive him for you and yes this is the jesus way of looking and it's fucked up you got to do this but you're not doing this for him i'll try to keep that in mind you're doing this for you that's what they always say about forgiveness so for daryl davis he's doing that for him and his people he's not doing it for the white people

he didn't think he's doing them a favor now should he have to no absolutely not white people should just not fucking shoot black people for jogging i get that yeah but if you can find the space mentally and emotionally to be like no i'm not doing this for them i'm gonna reach them for me and my people so we can all exist better in this world then that's what that's how you can do it because you can't ask a hateful person to come meet you halfway as fucked up as it is you have to go to them and you have to be the even bigger bigger bigger person so and that's why what he does is extra fucking impressive to me because he's able to do that and i don't think most i don't know if i am i would be if i was black let's say we knew that that was the solution, right? I mean, it makes perfect sense.

Yeah. Let's say we knew that was the solution, right? How the fuck as a politician do you explain that to black people? Bro, you cannot. Imagine going up there and going, hey, guys, you know how you've been historically oppressed? And you know how there's white people that hate you? Here's where we're going to fix it. And you're like, you're going to tell them to stop hating us, right?

And maybe apologize for the fuck shit. No, no, no, no. You're going to apologize. You're going to say, I'm sorry, for what? Well, for them hating you, obviously. Hey, black guys, you know what? End racism. Just be nice to white people.

Just go be really nice to them. I know they're going to say some wild shit, but be really nice and see what happens. You mean we should go to the people that are just shooting us randomly on the street? Yeah. Even when we're jogging away from them, they shoot us. You want us to jog towards them? Exactly.

Yeah, man. It's tough, man. Yo, to that point, though, I've always been a Malcolm guy, but that's where you see when you grow up. Oh, what Martin did is going to reach more people than what malcolm did that's interesting i've always been a martin guy well it shows in the women you fuck reparations man hey man listen now but the martin approach is the more mature reach people on a broad level approach i like that malcolm was like nah we'll just do our own

thing i love that mentality it's very very Andrew Schultz YouTube, actually. But I understand if you're trying to really connect, the Martin shit is super hard, but that's going to reach a lot of people. You kind of need both, to be honest. You need the ability to do shit by yourself in order to reconnect. Interesting.

Right? Once you have your own thing, this is horrible to make a parallel with? Like, once you have your own thing, this is horrible to make a parallel with YouTube, but like, once you have your own thing that we built, now, all of a sudden, these companies are coming to us and going, hey, you want to do some stuff? We'd like to do it.

And you're like, yeah, I'd like to reintegrate. But I don't have to. I don't need y'all for nothing. But yeah, why not? Maybe we could do some business together. I think where black people are extra even, like, about that is like, they tried Black Wall Street and then it got burned burned down so when we try to do our own thing

i'll fuck it up again stop cooking chitlins later in the night why are you cooking chitlins in why are you cooking chitlins in the fucking stock exchange everything else is hot grease frying wall street why you not fry wall street yeah we gotta figure out what black wall street was bro was it literally like you had wall street so you should red pill your ass and find out about because i was looking into a little bit i was looking into a little bit and i was talking to this guy from oklahoma i believe it was in oklahoma right yes i don't know much but i know it's also oklahoma right so and uh and he was saying he was like,

yeah, they teach us all the history of Black Wall Street and everything here. He goes, there was a problem. We rebuilt it after it was burned down. This was what this guy said. Historically, we rebuilt it after it burned down, but the problem was when they desegregated these cities, you had a lot of black people that

ended up spending money at the white businesses. So instead of continuing to build up the black grocery store, they went to the white grocery store because maybe the white grocery store had access to more things that they couldn't get at the black grocery store because obviously motherfuckers are racist and not selling shit to the black grocery store. But when you created, I guess you would say, a more free market economy, the blacks went to those white businesses that were now desegregated

and then they stopped supporting the black businesses. That's what he told me, black kid who grew up in. Now, I don't know if there's, I don't know how much truth goes on there, but it is kind of interesting to look at desegregation. In a way, it can affect the amount that you support your community.

When there's another product out there that's actually cheaper than the one in your community. To that point, that's why you need a malcolm and a martin yeah you need malcolm to go i don't care if it's cheaper we're spending this shit here because look what we built yeah it's not a matter of like desegregation or integration it's a matter of like supporting the people that you want to support i guess you know i mean like you can be integrated fully into society but like still choose to support black businesses and things like that right right that you can have both right right yeah that's one listen i i'm not the guy that envies white people or whatever but that is one thing i envy is you guys have a lot more

freedom in that sense of like i'm just going to support what's the best we always have a thing where it's like i have to support the best of my people yeah i don't support any of my people i don't consider mark my people what am mark is french mark is french or canadian but i don't support that's funny because he's like neither what are you actually i thought you're french you're french i was born in france that makes you french no it don't he don't got no french blood if you're born there, don't make you it. No, his mom just popped in France. That's it.

Yeah. That's it. They weren't even like living. Gagnon is French. Yeah, no, we were living there. Yeah, I thought your last name was French. It was French Canadian. Like Quebecois?

Like Quebecois. You fucking homos. Get the fuck out of here. I can't respect no Quebecois. Get the fuck out of here. How are you gayer than regular France? What? How are you gayer than regular France? Yeah, they are out of here. I can't respect no Quebecois. Get the fuck out of here. How are you gayer than regular friends? What? How are you gayer than regular friends?

Yeah, they are kind of gay. Son, you're the fucking Splenda of friends. Get the fuck out of here. Bro, I don't respect that shit. The Splenda of friends. That's funny. That is a lie. Fucking Nutra Sweetass French.

Get the fuck out of here. Generic-ass friends. Fuck out of here, sugar alcohol French. Fuck you. You didn't have ratatouille, you had fucking cooking mouse. Don't have baguettes, you got breadsticks.

No, you got something else that runs in baguettes. Bro, is that what we should call lesbians? Yo, what's up? This is Akash. That was a preview of our Patreon episode. If you want the full thing go

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