Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Cardi and Candace: 2 Girls 1 Trump

Episode Date: September 8, 2020

This week Andrew, Akaash, AlexxMedia and special guest, Taylor discuss why Spotify said no to Joe Budden, Dr. Dre's wife Beats up his bank account in divorce, Schulz getting emotional over Netflix's Chef Table, how Cardi B and Candace Owens are being pimped by politics, why the NFL season will stop the riots and much more. INDULGE! Want an extra episode a week? Join the Flagrant Army www.Patreon.com/FLAGRANT2

What's up everybody Look, we gotta get to the bottom of two things Okay There's been There's been some angry folks On the timeline And in the YouTube comments in the past week And we gotta get to the bottom of it

Okay First thing we did is we fired Mark Okay, we don't know if that helps, but he's gone. Cut to the wide, Al. Okay. We replaced him with a black woman. So y'all can't say shit. Can't say shit.

Okay. I know you like Mark. I know you thought he was funny. I know you enjoyed his quips, but say one fucking thing, you racist. Say one thing about us firing mark racist yo we the most allies yeah okay so now we didn't fire mark but mark keep taking honeymoons he fit a fire himself oh fucker bro i'm so happy for him for his wedding and then on sunday as i'm flying back he's like oh my god i didn't

know uh we got to take a honeymoon my parents got us like a beach thing whatever i'm like oh did they that's funny they just surprised you about that you know so skeptical to everybody yo i remember you had like the flu. Al had the flu. He's out. I'll believe that. Missed the podcast. Takes a flight. Still sick. Filmed your show.

And I'm like, where's Al? He's like, he got the flu or some shit. I go, really? He goes, that's what he says. Hey, bro. Hey, if I'm not sick, nobody can be sick. Okay? If I'm not sick, nobody can be sick. That's what he says. If I'm not married, Nobody can be sick. Okay. If I'm not sick, nobody can be sick.

That's what he said. If I'm not married, nobody can be sick. Oh my God. That's why you think Corona's fake because you haven't got that shit yet. You know why I think

Corona's fake? Because of the wedding we went to this weekend, Al. Son. We went to this Catholic wedding, beautiful wedding. Mark got married or whatever. Congrats, Mark.

Or whatever. Congrats, Mark. Or whatever. I didn't mean it like that. He got married, bro. It got married or whatever. Congrats, Mark. Or whatever. Congrats, Mark. Or whatever. I didn't mean it like that. He got married, bro. It's not even whatever. He is married, officially married. And joined his fucking honeymoon.

I was just surprised that he was so young. I didn't know that. Well, let me tell you something. He had a lot of old people at this wedding. Well, so? No, he had a lot of old people at this wedding well so no he had a lot of old people at this wedding corona yo we were in Florida

supposedly corona capital did you see one mask the entire time nope not a single mask except mine except mine Al had the only mask

and he got shamed out of wearing it yep wow Al breaks the law first of all we're all breaking the law but you know when you come back

from I'm gonna snitch on you I don breaking the law but you know when you come back from I'm gonna snitch on you I don't give a fuck you know I'm snitching we snitching now we are snitching now yeah things are different

over here Taylor okay okay I don't get it but I think I get it look you know when you land from a Corona hot spot

obviously okay and we're gonna get back to the miracle that is us not getting Corona if we don't get it we probably should have it I'm gonna get it from y'all I obviously okay and we're gonna get back to the miracle that is us not getting corona if we don't get it we probably should have it i'm gonna get it from y'all i'm sure if we haven't gotten it from this wedding corona doesn't exist and i mean y'all gonna find out you got it because i'm gonna be the one that shows symptoms honestly you will

you might die from y'all from and it might be for me yeah but it won't be for me direct mark wants his seat yo well he's doing everything his, yo. Well, he's doing everything in his power to avoid getting it. He's doing everything in his power. Enjoy the beach. Fucking takes a honeymoon. Who takes a honeymoon? You're a Catholic. Suffer.

It never said in the Bible, get married, married start a honeymoon where did it say that john 317 wasn't take a honeymoon where's the honeymoon though the water bro the beach in florida there's water everywhere you better walk on that water for as Catholic as you are for taking this goddamn honeymoon bro the only way is if you turn that water into wine or you walk on that motherfucker. Well, I forgive this vacation. Immediately after, he was trying to kill us, Al. He knew he had this honeymoon the whole fucking time.

But he was like, if Al and Andrew go down there and they die of corona, I don't have to explain to him that we had a honeymoon booked the whole time. Diabolical. He told me on Sunday at 9 o'clock while I'm flying here, getting ready for this shit that I can't tell you all about yet, but I will tell you in the future, and it will be very exciting, and then you'll understand why I'm annoyed.

Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now you understand. Valid, valid. In the future, y'all will know, and it will be very exciting. Yeah, that's valid. So at 9 o'clock on the flight, Al, 9 o'clock on the flight, he goes, my parents surprised me with a honeymoon toclock on the flight, Al, Al, nine o'clock on the flight, he goes, my parents surprised me with a honeymoon to go to the beach.

And I didn't text this, but my initial text was, that's funny. Did they think of telling your employer about this surprise? God damn, son. God damn, son. If I laugh too,

it looks like i'm not angry no i'm just joking man but i'm not joking i'm not joking but i am super proud of him and everybody go wish mark congratulations on his instagram and ask him if he's enjoying his time. But no, seriously, it was a beautiful wedding. I mean, he looks so fucking happy. You know how I knew he was happy? It was beautiful. I FaceTimed him.

He said, I love you back for the first time in the history of our friendship. Yeah, Akash always says, so Akash and I say I love you to each other. I say I love you to you. We all say I love you. We all say it. Mark, because he's 33% gay, I feel like doesn't say I love you to each other. I say I love you to you. We all say I love you. We all say it. Mark, because he's 33% gay, I feel like doesn't say I love you back because it's going to trigger something. Yeah. You know what I mean?

It's like latent. It's latent. You know what I mean? He starts to say and then he starts to gag. And that's it. And he has to swallow that. So he doesn't swallow something else. So we'll leave.

We'll leave. And our guys will literally go, I love you, buddy. And Mark will be like, see you tomorrow, guys. That shit, me and Loki hurting my feelings every time. Yo, Andrew, love you. Love you, dog. Yo, Al, love you. Love you, buddy.

Hey, Mark, love you. Love you, dog. Yo, Al, love you. Love you, buddy. Hey, Mark, love you. All right, man. Peace. He just turns his motorcycle on real loud. So, where is you later? Why can't we just say I love you, man? He said it on his wedding day. I was like, that's how I know he's happy.

All right, ready? All right, we're going to say I love you. I love you, bro. I love you, man. Yo, Al, I love you. I love you, dog. Taylor. That's fucking gay what Al you. I love you, bro. I love you, man. Yo, Al, I love you. I love you, dog. Taylor. That's fucking gay with Al.

You said it right there, Al. You said it in a gay way, Al. I just threesome-ed us. Yeah. I made it plural. We all did. We all did. I love you guys.

See? Yeah, man. Anyway, no, for real, go wish Mark happy wedding or happy marriage or whatever that is. Tell him you love him. Tell him you love him, yo. Go tell Mark you love him. Mark, you gag not. That's his Instagram.

Go tell him you love him. And we love you, Mark. I gave a speech at his wedding. Oh, yeah. Unbeknownst to me. I do not like doing that. That shit was beknownst to you before you left. This guy did not want to give a speech.

It's mad pressure, yo. I've never seen somebody try to avoid a speech, but not saying I don't want to give it. I got Father Benjamin right next to me. Coolest padre in the game. The guy who did the whole I do situation. Yeah. That guy. The whole I do situation yeah the wedding he ordained them that guy he ordained them yeah the whole i do situation said he i do them right it was a whole mass and shit so it was like yeah

it was real al showed up c ppt bro i can't look at that time say what y'all didn't come together no oh okay man late yeah anyway where was it oh yeah so father benjamin's sick dude like cool he's like y'all he's like 28 years old like played ball in college it's just cool as hell great really interesting dude we have cool conversations got to pick his brain about the whole shit yeah um he was telling me about like when bitches try to throw pussy at him and shit oh like how he handles that wow yeah yeah because they be coming at handsome old man though he's 28 oh 28 uh handsome used to play baseball okay is he is he celibate celibate he's celibate

he was sipping he was sipping though oh he was sipping they can do that Catholics Catholics can sip that's the blood of Christ yo no wine

wine tequila he was sipping I think they can sip they was sipping I think they can sip you go to church right not Catholic church are you Catholic

I'm not Catholic. But that's weird though because I know- None of that other shit counts. We don't count none of that other shit. It's interesting because all the girls- A little Nerf gun Christianity, yo.

He was locking all that other shit. He's like, all that other shit. Like, y'all birthed off our shit. But back in Philly, there's a high school called West Catholic, whatever.

I think it's called Cheesecake Factory. No, shut up. No, but it's interesting that y'all say they didn't drink or like the sex and everything. But I knew a lot of the girls there. They were getting busy. Oh, yeah. The Catholic girls used to get into bunkie.

Yeah. Bunkie is the word. I couldn't think of a better way to say it. They used to get into bunkie. Yeah. Yeah. Get it in the bunkie. And they would save their pussy for when they got out of Catholic school.

So it was a Catholic girl? It's just college. It's never college. But while they're in Catholic school, they're just getting rammed in the bunkie, right? Ironically enough, there's a lot of Catholics getting rammed in the bunkie. This one, they wanted. Can I say something? Yes, yes, yes.

Are you talking about white Catholics or black Catholics? Because I thought it was just a white thing. Well, Catholics, no, I think most Christians in Africa are Catholic. I know there's Indian Catholics. I believe so. I don't know that many sects of Christianity outside of Europe and America that are not Catholic. I think Indian is Catholic. Indian's got some Catholics.

There's all kinds of shit, but I don't know Catholics. Anyway, I mean, South America, Catholic, right? Pretty sure about that. Anyway, so wait, where were we going? What was I saying?

I was just saying, I was trying to- No, no, the guy, Diego. We're at the table with the- Oh, yeah, so the speech. So this is how I- I got Father Benjamin right next to me. I'm trying to get out of the speech.

Now, it's not because I don't want to say I'm proud of him and all that kind of stuff. And I'm not trying to fucking whatever, toot my horn or whatever that shit is. I don't want it to seem like I want spotlight at his day. I want it to be all about you and I want it to be all about your wife. The last thing I want to do is go up there and then make it look and make some jokes and make it look like I'm trying to steal any shot. I'm just here to support. I love you. Yeah.

But then his aunt asked me to do it in front of Father Benjamin. I'm trying to get into heaven, bro. I'm trying to get into heaven. So I can't say no. I'm like, if you want me to do it, you know, by the grace of God, I would obviously do it by God's grace. If that was something you wanted. I went up there. I had busted some jokes.

It was kind of fun. But then I started kind of like speaking vulnerably about Mark and how grateful I am and how much I think that he's a superstar. And I want to help him with anything he wants to achieve. And I'm very proud of him. And son, I started getting fucking terrified. Terr of a sudden i was terrified because you lying right next to a priest like that maybe that was it i'm gonna strike me down for this you know what i really think it was it was a usually on stage we're having these real moments but we're being at least for me i'm being like funny with these moments in this moment the purpose was not to be funny it was just to be

like thoughtful and i was sharing intimate feelings about somebody with like a group of strangers i didn't fucking even know yeah me saying that to al how i feel about al in front of you is easy yeah because you know how i feel about al or me saying how i feel about Al in front of you is easy. Yeah. Because you know how I feel about Al. Or me saying how I feel about you in front of Al. That's easy. But like 100 people just watching, like, I don't know. For some reason, I think I was like, ooh, God. You don't have the defense mechanism anymore.

You don't have the security blanket of jokes. Yeah. It's gone. That was just you. 100%. And it was a weird feeling. I haven't gone on stage in 10 years and felt like that. Wow.

10 years. Wow. So with Mark's permission, when he gets back, I do have a video of said speech. gone on stage in 10 years and felt like that. Wow. 10 years. So, with Mark's permission, when he gets back, I do have a video of said speech. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. We can drop it. I think I had a couple of jokes. I saved his brother. I was going to go at his brother. His brother brought me up.

I had something. I locked him for his brother, but I was like, I'm not. But it was locked. You did go light. I went light. I was, oh, I but it was locked you did go light i went like i was oh i thought he was gonna drop some jaws no because i didn't know you can't go at you can't go at the bride obviously i would never go at the bride you gotta pick up the bride i would go at mark but i don't want to go too hard on mark because his wedding you know i was thinking about that you're allowed to roast the groom Yeah

Yeah no but everybody was going hard His own dad went hard on him His dad was like I don't know why you're marrying Mark That's the move that's what you gotta do His dad is cool His dad is sick Anyway look we don't have to take too long on it Um

He's a piece of shit I think that's the main takeaway Of all this. Who gives a fuck when he's back? Fucking dickhead, douchebag, going to get married, 23 years old. That's crazy. You know what I mean? Kid's still got a retainer.

But best of luck in all that kind of stuff. Best of luck in all that kind of stuff. Oh, that's what I want to tell you about. Bro, so we're flying back, right? It's me, my girl, Al, his girl. Okay? Al and his girl are walking ahead of us. Okay?

Al's wearing shorts. You wear shorts to the wedding? No, no, no. I'm going back. I'm going to play. All of a sudden, my my girl for no reason whatsoever we're all having a great time everybody's happy all of a sudden for no reason my girl goes wow you know where it's going out of nowhere out of nowhere he's even a little further ahead so she gotta like really enunciate

like just up the volume she goes wow Al you got little legs right so Al tries to like walk it off

I just try to laugh it off right this this lady locks in and he can't even go away I'm gonna go get some food we're in the TSA line

he's right in front of us. It felt like when we roasted meat on the podcast. It felt like that. No, spin cycle. But they're so skinny. And I was trying to lean into it. Look at my calves. I got calves.

And she's like, no, you don't. Your legs are so stick skinny. Have you ever lifted weights with them? She doesn't even know she's roasting. She them like she's leaning she doesn't even know she's roasting she really thinks she's just describing right it was super genuine to the point where i gotta stop it i go babe babe you can't make fun of al and she's like why not why not they're really skinny it's like no no like al can't make fun of you in the same way I can't make fun of his girl. So it's unfair

that you're just treating him. Thank you. Thank you for coming to my event. Why does he have to go back? Why can't she just roast you? Because he can't roast her back. It's not allowed. You can't make fun of your friend's girl.

Yeah, that's a rule. That's a rule. No, I make fun of your friend's girl. Yeah, that's a rule. That's a rule. No, I make fun of my... It just depends. Your girl is different. You can make fun of us, but we can't make fun of you. Yeah. Like, if you're making fun of your boyfriend's friend, right?

And you're like, oh, you gained a little weight. And then he goes, yeah, so did you. That's not fair. It did, but... No, no, no, no. That's not fair. It did, but it depends. It depends on a relationship. I already knew my boyfriend's, like we all were friends already. And we,

no, no, no, no. We're talking about this. It's your friend. It's your boyfriend's friend. Your friend's boyfriend.

Imagine just coming out the blue with it too. Just like, no, I'm sure tight on you, fam. Like that. Now we probably got to cut this whole part, but I just want to say,

anyway, I say all that to say this, we're coming back and this is how Al breaks the law. And this is what I'm snitching on. Okay. When you come back from a hotbed, a Corona hotbed, if you will.

Okay. You have to either digitally fill out this form, make track where the fuck you go you're supposed to quarantine for 14 days I'm breaking the goddamn law of being here right now giving me corona

giving you corona possibly giving you maybe corona I might have given y'all you might have given us that's a fact I saw those parties in Atlanta this week yeah

we saw you on the beach we saw you on the beach traveling point is you're supposed to fill out some paperwork or you're supposed to fill it out digitally and then show them the checkmark.

Yeah. Al just skips it. Wow. Walks around the security, bro. Wow. I had time for that shit. I was trying to get home. Yo, what do you mean he didn't have time for it?

He skipped it just to wait for his girl To fill it out I mean I thought she was Wow I thought she was gonna see the play And then she was gonna Yo She was so tight You left her ass

She was so tight I'm not gonna front though I'm not gonna front She did She Said I was behind She

She said this She goes I go I go I go I go Where's Al Did we leave him And he goes She. She goes, I go, I go, I go, I go, where's Al? Did we leave him? And he goes, she goes, she goes, she goes, she goes, she goes. I know this anger.

I know this anger. She goes, she goes, no, he just left, little bitch. He just run away. He just run away, little bitch. She has an accent? Yeah, she's Spanish. She likes it. She's like that.

What do you mean? What do you mean? Don't do the Mark hands. What do you mean? What are you talking about? Yeah, Mark, all this time. Oh, man. Okay, but Akash also went to a wedding.

Sell out. Yeah. You left our shit. You were supposed to go down there with us. And then instead you went to your fucking Indian wedding. Yeah. Indian weddings are so much fun, actually. You been? to go down there with us and then instead you went to your fucking Indian wedding. Yeah. Indian weddings are so much fun actually. You been? Yeah. That's cool. I'm gonna invite you to mine then so we good. Don't worry about it.

Whoa. No there's a mad fun like y'all turn up. That shit is mad good. He said he's not inviting you to his now. I thought you said that I am invited. Yeah that's what I thought you said. You fucking dick don't invite nobody. He didn't invite me. Why am I not getting invited?

He didn't invite me to his wedding. Why? Why? Why is she not getting invited? I haven't sent out the invites yet. Yo, this guy is a fucking asshole. It's cool. No, no, it's cool though.

It's cool though. Because y'all do like this let out thing too and still we partying. So I'm cool. I'll be at the let out. I don't know what a let out is. I don't know what the fuck she's talking about. She just made up some shit.

I don't know what the fuck she's talking about. She just made up some shit. I don't know what the fuck she's talking about. She thought she knew some Indian shit. No, she didn't. I think they just let you out the party. I think they were just like,

yo, you go out there and stop dancing like that. Hey, black people, the real party's outside. See me in the corner of the parking lot garage. They put y'all in the corner of the parking lot garage.

No. Yes. No, the music will bleed through. It will bleed through. they put y'all in the corner of the parking lot garage no no the music will bleed through it will bleed through y'all can dance to it yo how your indian friends did you like that no this is what happened you need to give them attitude so that they understand you back no you didn't no you didn't. No, you didn't. How dare you? Who do you think you are? Listen, don't let them disrespect you, yo. Indians can be wild disrespectful.

Oh, I know, too. Wild disrespectful, like he is to me. Yeah, you're right. Are you engaged? He got married Oh And this motherfucker Tried to invite me

As the elephant Because my nose is big That's what he said to me He invited me As the elephant He literally sent me An invitation As the elephant

I just wanted you To carry me Into the venue yo How disrespectful Is that yo Yo That's wild disrespectful And he calls himself A friend Hey man i just want to be as close as

possible for the wedding all right keep it 100 though with the wedding on level of indian zero to ten where was it be honest indian wedding zero to ten be honest i know it's about your sister so it's hard for you to be honest but but be honest. It's a 10. It's two Indians getting married. Yo, this guy's soft. I'm nice, yo. This guy's soft. What did it be, son? He's like,

I'm a vet, yo. I'm a vet. You saw that? I'm a vet. Hey, listen, if you're listening right now, I'm a vet. Anyway, wedding was good, though?

Yeah, it was fun. It was a cool little affair. Animals? There was no dancing, which is the one thing I didn't like. Animals? No dancing.

No, no animals. Hold on, no animals? didn't like. Animals? No dancing? No, no animals. Hold on. No animals? They don't do that. No dancing? No dancing. So there's no wedding. There wasn't no Indian wedding, bro.

There wasn't like an Aladdin. Yo, yo, let me tell y'all. Let me tell y'all. It's, is what hey taylor taylor brings a different energy it's a racist energy but it's different you know what i mean i love it i love it i love what's happening here all of it all right guys we're gonna take a break for a second pay some bills listen get that dick hard excuse my language taylor but you know what i mean you know what i'm saying you don't want them soft do you no of course not no girl wants soft dicks you know sometimes you've been having a lot of sex and trying to pop up you know what i mean you don't want your girl to feel

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interesting um i'm having this conversation with father benjamin okay i had this conversation with mark before about like what americans do and I think there's maybe Western culture, maybe all fucking cultures do it, who knows. But distill the most enjoyable thing about whatever it is we're consuming down to its most enjoyable essence. For example, an orange is sweet, it's sugary. That's not enough. We need a pixie stick. Oh, okay, I got you. We just want the juice.

And then the juice isn't enough. Then we find a way to put more sugar in the juice right now we got cream soda or whatever there's orange soda you know what i mean and then we find a way to just take just the raw sugar and then we make a pixie stick now the problem with the pixie stick is there's no redeeming qualities in it right right so i was asking him i, okay, so we have this way of doing that. Right? With everything. I'm sure you can find every different way. We just find like the easiest way to distill it into just the enjoyable

part. Right. Right? I go, there are different factions of Christianity. There's Catholicism, which seems to be like the harshest form. There's a lot of like shame attached to it, like very rigid laws, you know, like the masses are like super long. You're not like singing and dancing, you know. Is that this rigid, like what is it with this rigid aspect

of it? And then I go like, I go to this church sometimes Hillsong, right? Because Carl Lentz is a buddy of mine. He's one of the pastors there, or preachers or whatever it is. And this church is so much fun. It's a concert. It's got lights. All the preachers are handsome or beautiful. They're having so much fun and they're filling you with so much joy. And you walk out of there feeling fucking amazing. It's great. Not even religious. I have so much fun. But I asked him, I go, is that the pixie stick of Christianity? And he goes, that's an interesting way of putting it. I would never judge. Obviously, he's not going to condemn.

But he goes, that's an interesting way of putting it. And basically, the way that he phrased it was like, Catholicism tries to take a realistic approach on life, which is some days suck. Some days are great. We're not going to feed you just all good stuff because that will not prepare you for when the days suck and are bad and the reality of life. Right. Right. And I think, and we should talk to Carl and have him on here because I'd love to pick his brain about it, but I wonder if that better prepares you for life.

And I wonder if having it be all pixie stick, if you will, ill prepares you for when the dark times come. I wonder if all pixie stick potentially feels great it's like that band-aid but then the real thing happens and it doesn't give you the proper like tools to handle that issue what do you think i wouldn't say it's a pixie stick off rip i don't know enough but i know there's some value in it it seems it's maybe the juice of the orange when we're talking about squeezing the orange and just that's better way it's sweet. It's still full, but it's not devoid of nutrition. I don't know enough about Catholicism to know how it prepares you for life. If I did, I would be better prepared for this,

but I would love to hear what he thinks they do to prepare you for life because it does seem like I don't want my association with God to be guilt, to be shame, to be fucking self flagellation. I don't think that's the healthiest relationship with God as an outsider. I would feel like this is, hey, when the days suck,

you can still come to God for light, for a better feeling, et cetera, and that's the value of it. And I don't know enough to know for sure, and I would love to know why he thinks how he thinks. And I'm sure his way of Catholicism is more nuanced in New Age than like, or more modern than like some of these other old fashioned.

Yeah. Shits you see on TV. Yeah. Like he was saying something interesting. He's like, Catholicism is the original cultural appropriator. I go, what? He goes, yeah, anything that's dope, we just take on. Huh.

He's like, Jesus wasn't born on the December 25th. Right. December 25th is like three days after the winter solstice. Right. Jesus is the light coming into the world and literally winter, sorry, winterice yeah winter solstice is the shortest day the shortest amount of light shortest amount of light in here so after that day it just gets more light more light more light so what he said was that the 25th just represents i guess x amount of days after this the winter solstice so therefore this is the coming of the light jesus is the coming of the light so it's like and apparently the egyptian god ra or

something like that also was born the 25th so i'm sure that this has existed throughout but it's basically a bunch of people in the catholic church like yeah that's lit let's do that and that'll probably work to get other people who are you know into these ideals to come um he said some really interesting really interesting things i gotta talk to more religious folks like do you talk what are they called in your religion like cab driver what he got me I did not see it coming

I didn't see it coming I'm having a discussion what are they called pundit p-u-n-D-I-T. Pundit. Pundit. So, do you like pick their brains about life?

Do you like, are they a resource for you? Or is there something that- Not enough of one because I don't see them enough. It's kind of a detached relationship. And that's one cool thing about, I think, Christian religion is there's like a close relationship between you and your priest, whatever, minister, et cetera. It's like another father. Yeah.

And I know religious people who are like, that's my church father you know what i mean so there's a a closeness there i think that you don't necessarily in eastern religion as far as i know that's really cool so that's a great thing so where do you ask all who do you ask those questions we have the book the the ved for us the vedas yeah um for for six it's the same i know i don't know much about buddhism or and i think for muslims you might have a closer relationship with the imam imam yeah you can talk to them yeah it seems like all the abrahamic religions have this like dialogue yeah rabbis imams and the like you can also have a teacher i know in hinduism you can have like a guru which is where that guru comes from and that's like your teacher on the religion right we don't have that in western versions of

hinduism or whatever we just be living and then you go to the temple but that's like your teacher on the religion. Right. We don't have that in Western versions of Hinduism or whatever. We just be living. And then you go to the temple. But that's how I would assume you would get it. Yeah. In India. You just find someone who's like more enlightened and then they. Yeah. And I guess it's helped me in a sense that like one of my best friends is like a deeply

Christian dude named Luther who you met. Yeah. And that's the guy that I can find so much like value from. He changed my life with one Bible verse with Matthew 6, which is like when you do good deeds, it's not for everybody to see. Yes yes the people who are like advertising all the good deeds they do they're just that's their reward they don't get a heavenly reward for that their reward is everybody sees what a good deed it is and they look like good people people who are doing it quietly those are the ones that are actually doing good deeds technically the bible is an

advertisement but yeah sure i mean That's the ultimate advertisement. They're real tough. Now, to be fair, Jesus didn't put it out himself. Jesus wasn't telling people, I'm walking on water. Look how, hey, guys, you know, I don't know if you know there's only one fish and there was 40 people, and I, yeah, I made it do what it do. That wasn't mine. Other people did it,

and maybe that's the brilliance of Jesus as a marketer. Y'all got that. I asked him about, like, the marketing of Christianity. He was like, it's kind of set up perfectly. Like Jesus had these 12 disciples and then they went out and they like spread the gospel of him. So you don't need the person who started the religion to spread it. And now all these people like who are reading the book follow the story and they go, oh

shit, I should go out with my homies and I should start doing what these guys did. Yeah. So it's like built to continue to grow. Yeah. Yeah. But so I'm on my way back we're like driving back right and after having all these religious talks and everything i start thinking about like is there is there a pyramid scheme aspect to a lot of religion oh 100 all of them we don't convert but most eastern religions don't try to convert most non-abrahamic religions i guess you just grow by having children within yeah and if you find it you find it but we don't like we believe all religions are valid and that's all mike caplan had a funny joke he is uh uh he is uh i'm jewish you know uh we're involved in a

pyramid scheme building them so anyway my bad no no but um so i'm right back and i'm like i'm seeing these like buildings and i start to think about like you know even back in like cool churches that we had like you know being barcelona you see the sagrada familia you see all these beautiful churches in europe and the vatican fuck you went to see the vatican i ever saw these amazing places and it's like the thing that you value most or the things you value most in society or in culture right become the most magnificent structures that exist, right? And I imagine in Hinduism, it's the same exact thing.

I imagine your temples in India are like... There's some. I haven't seen as many in India, but yeah. I'm sure, like, fascinating. I follow your point. Or, like, even you go to, like, Bali. These are their, like, Buddhist temples that are, like, magnificent, right? All these massive cathedrals all throughout Europe, right? all these massive cathedrals all throughout Europe, right?

We've probably, in the West, replaced God with money. Go ahead. And if you look at the most magnificent structures that exist right now, they're banks. The Twin Towers are basically building banks financial institutions trading like all these big buildings you go to you know what about cross my mind football stadiums well i was thinking back to that i think even back then they were also valued maybe almost like a godlike level because you look at the coliseum yeah right yeah but you look at right now like you see banks are massive and then you see stadiums

are absolutely fucking massive. Yeah. Right? Massive and gorgeous and cost billions of dollars. Billions of dollars. And taxpayers are like, yeah, we'll pay for it.

Absolutely. That's a valid answer. You can see what society values the most simply by the most magnificent structures that go up. Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

It's going to be. That's a good point. Right? I don't know. I just thought about that in the way and you could backtrack a civilization by looking at the most beautiful structures and you could probably figure out oh okay these guys really cared about this so you want to know what the pyramids were find out what they cared about the most that's what it was like if they cared about

god the most then that was something for god if they cared about energy or whatever fuck it was then it was an energy source they cared about money it was a bank like a tomb for the king that's what they say but apparently there weren't any of those tombs in the ones that we see as pyramids like all those tombs were found ah okay like in other parts ah it's just like an interesting interesting way of like judging value what we really fucking care about what taylor no i was gonna say i guess like we're going to say that? What, Taylor? No. I was going to say, I guess like what you were about to say, it's interesting what we judge as value. Yeah. Like what else do we big up, you know?

Yo. Yo, that was the question you asked the father. Yeah. Priest. The priest that out. He's struggling, yo. I don't know what you call these motherfuckers. It's priest, pastor.

All the motherfuckers. That's one thing you don't get. That's only what I feel comfortable with. My nigga. So you asked him, how do people know when they're ready to get married? And then he's like, oh, they have to go through this marriage boot camp situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh, that's interesting.

And then he was like, oh, so have you ever told a couple they can't get married? And he's like, a couple times he's had to tell people they're not ready. And I'm like, it's weird. It's like, you put so much faith in this religion. Like who is this guy outside of your relationship telling you you're not ready to get with your,

your partner. I think it's like a lot of faith. That's a lot of faith. And I think that we probably, as you and I aren't as religious, like we undervalue people's religiosity. But like, I imagine if you're Catholic, you're priests. That's the direct connect to the guy upstairs. So I would imagine you treat him with that type of reverence.

And if he was like, I don't think you're ready for that, you'd really take that into consideration. Even then, I think as someone who's not from whatever, I see the validity to it. Because you look at a religious person that's about that life, that's the one of the wisest people you'll see. So even if you don't necessarily say, hey, there's a direct connection between him and God, you might say, yo, this is a very wise person. And he's not saying we can't get married or we're not the right fit, but we have more work to do. We have more growing up to do. Let's put in that work. It's just a wise person. You can't, religious religious or not there's a lot of wisdom in those books yeah whatever book it is so if that person with

that wisdom is like hey you guys might not be looking for the right things right now that's just hey we can do some more work also he got nothing to gain from it right like some dude that wants to bang your girl is gonna be like nah you're not ready to get married but this guy who definitely is not banging your girl, like literally only wants you guys to have a successful marriage and be happy in life and go to heaven. That's his only goal. He's not selling a seminar. He can't make no money off you.

Like nothing. They believe him. Like they'll believe him than like their actual parents who were. That's interesting. They'll probably believe him more than a therapist because the therapist wants you to keep coming back. But then if they go through magic boot camp, marriage boot camp, and then they get divorced, who fails? The couple or him? Yeah.

The couple. The couple would probably. But he okayed it. Yeah, but things happen. He failed too. He's not perfect. He failed, yeah. He's not perfect.

He didn't boot camp him good enough. It's not a perfect thing. And when he says you guys aren't ready yet yet it's not you're not the right fit he's not saying with 100 certainty y'all can't get married and if he's telling people y'all are probably ready he's not saying with 100 certainty you are good to go let me tell you something you everybody knows that shit is up and down any marriage has ups and downs relationships i think you guys are mature enough to navigate the downs hopefully that's what i think now if a down comes and y'all both aren't aren't ready to do it then that's on me and that's on you but like i think you are ready to take that next step it's not i think you'll last forever and i don't think y'all are ready

to take the next step yet it's not y'all aren't the right fit for each other see i'm saying it's not so absolute yeah i was just looking for a scapegoat so when my shit don't worry i'll be like yo he exactly it's like god don't take this out with me yeah your man your man we came to your man your man signed off on it yeah so speaking of failed marriages you have fucking dr drake bruh son son that's a sad story to hear yo break this whole thing down to me so from what i heard and this is just from where i get my news dj academics is dr dre's i get so much my news for black tmz bro i really do bro so dj academics posts this thing that says dr dre's wife is seeking three million dollars a month or $2 million a month? $2 million a month.

She says her monthly nut is $2.5 million. So she acts like she's doing him a favor. She's doing him a favor. $2 million a month. $2 million a month from Dr. Dre, even though they signed a prenup. Yes. They have a prenuptial agreement signed. Now, she claims later on he ripped it up and he was like, oh, we should have never signed that.

Yeah, every guy does that after you sign it because they know it works. You get her to sign it and then later you go, man, this shit is stupid, but you got the copy with the lawyer and everything's good. So this girl is asking for $2 million a month. Now, can somebody make the argument for why she deserves it? The only thing I can say that's like emotional and okay, I can't argue with you is she said he was abusive. If that's true, and there's multiple allegations

from other girls to make you think it might be, I can't tell you you don't deserve whatever money. Isn't it sustained her lifestyle too though? Yeah, but like, I don't think. But this is my issue with it.

Even if I give you that, okay, he was abusive, take whatever money, fuck him. This guy's a monster. This list is so lazily put together. All you had to say is the guy beat me i want my money fuck him i would be with that why do you get money for getting beaten yeah that's what i'm saying i don't see why you try to justify that with money i'm saying even if even if we're willing to let's say we're willing

to give me two million shit that's incentivizing girls to get beat. Think about it, bro. Maybe he was okay with the price tag. Maybe he's like, all right, I'll give him 2 million a month. Yo, 2 million a month. Think about that. Prize fighters don't make that. Prize fighters can fight, though.

What if 2 million is what it costs? If Floyd had to fight motherfucking Mike Tyson in his prime, like, that's not... There's a different weight class. You know what I mean? Prize fighters are very specific about who they fight. But one of them gets knocked the fuck out. If Ronda Rousey had to fight whoever the fuck...

She would do it for two million. Guaranteed. Who's this boy? Tyson Fury? She would do it for two million. And then you'd be like, yeah, that's about how much he deserves. I'm just saying, I don't understand the beating.

Just because he beat her, she deserves money. I think she deserves money for the kids. Like, if somebody raises your kids for you, I'd think that they deserve money, even if you have a prenup. Like, once we have kids, throw that shit out. We got to work something else out. You can't raise my children, and then I don't feel like I have to give you some sort of money.

I don't have to raise my children. I can go out and make this money because I know there's someone I trust and love raising my children. You deserve something. So,

say, read out some of the things you need. This is my issue, this list. Laundry and cleaning $10,000 a month. You're crazy.

Clothes, $135,000 a month. Let me ask you a question. If you're spending $135,000 a month, how are you cleaning clothes question. If you're spending $135,000 a month, how are you cleaning clothes? You're getting brand new clothes every month. How often do you change?

This is going to sound fucked up, but you're reading this list and you're like, I kind of see... What? That's because the way he's been shopping. The type of clothes you've been buying. I'm just saying, you read the list. No.

No? No. You decide to marry her and everything else and then that's no that's not worth it what if she's marked that time here's a list 135 000 a month on clothes then 10 000 a month on laundry that's off the rip that's craziness okay if you're spending 135 000 a month on clothes you don't need to do laundry. Exactly. Just throw the clothes out. That's what blows my mind.

Burn the clothes. Education, $60,000 a month. Bitch, are you buying Harvard? $720,000 a year for education? No education on earth is that expensive. If you get $2 million a month, you don't need education. No. You're right about it.

What the fuck do you need education for? You made all the money. The money's made. How much is that a year? $24 million a year? $24 million a year? You don't need to go back to school. You're an idiot if you go back to school and you're making $24 million.

That's your education. That's your education. Don't go to school. I think you're an idiot. Let's just slice all the shit. We don't need a slice. You don't need laundry and cleaning because you got $135,000 a month in clothes. You're good.

Education, you have $24 million a year. You're good. Entertainment, $900,000 a month. Here's Corona. What the fuck are you doing for $900,000 a month in clothes, you good. Education, you're at $24 million a year, you're good. Entertainment, $900,000 a month. Here's Corona. What the fuck you doing for $900,000 a month? What kind of eyes wide shut parties are you having? You can't. Matter of fact, they do have the mask.

Those are the best parties. Hey, bro. Let me tell you something. If you tell me you're spending $900,000 a month on entertainment, I think you're trafficking human beings. This shit is taking it. You are a chick looking at women behind a fucking glass and then just bidding on them. Dude, they're hiring Snoop Dogg to come to the house and perform in person.

Snoop ain't that much. Snoop ain't that expensive. $900,000 a month in entertainment. How boring is Dr. Dre? How boring a husband is Dr. Dre that your wife needs to spend a million dollars a month to keep her fucking entertained? Your wife needs to spend a million dollars a month to keep her fucking entertained. Is she not going to spend none of that on some ducking and bobbing and weaving classes or something like that? We don't see no karate.

We don't see no MMA. No boxing. Therapy. Therapy is a good one. Charitable contributions. You charity. That's true. He's donating $2 million a month to battered women that ain't enough now you gotta give a hundred and you spend more on clothes than you do on

charity and you make it two million a month that's a lot you look wild greedy with that that's a lot that's a lot charitable donations 125 000 is a lot i'm not knocking charity because you know give back but that's a lot that's a a lot of give backs. That's a lot of give backs. Honestly, if you spend $900,000 a month on entertainment and $125,000 a month on charity, you're kind of a piece of shit. You're kind of greedy. $900,000. Oh, shit, that's right.

You're kind of greedy. You're spending seven times as much or whatever on- Yo, Dr. Drake DeVore, rid yourself of this toxic queen. You know what I'm saying? This girl's spending all your goddamn money. Holy moly. I didn't even put that together.

That's why it's called Beats by Dre. I was trying to figure it out. Fuck! $900 a month in entertainment. Wow, I didn't even think about that either. I'm going to show you Beats by Dre. We're going to need some noise canceling for everybody in this community. Yo, I never put that together until right now. Yeah, yo. yo what's it called the secrets are always in

images what does q and on say anyway mortgage is a hundred thousand dollars a month which is insane a hundred thousand dollars a month how you spending more on clothes than a house a hundred thousand dollars a month mortgage is not as crazy as the other expenses no it's crazier that's probably the only expense that I can understand if they live in a gigantic house. Do the math. Like gigantic. Taylor, do this math for me. $100,000 a month, or you could do

this math. $100,000 a month is $1.2 million a year. Yes. Times 30 if you do a 30-year fixed. 36? $36 million home you need to live in? You need to live in a $36 million home you need to live in? You need to live in a $36 million home?

He got like almost 700 M's from that beats deal with Apple. Like he came real close to being the first hip hop billionaire. So what? There are $36 million homes

and if you're a billionaire, that's not that crazy. I will say that's crazy, but that's not the craziest one. The craziest one is the next one. Read the next one. Explain to me how this is mathematically possible. Cell phone, email, $20,000.

I don't understand why email costs anything. I know. What email? Is she using the AOL CDs? Let me tell you something. You got dial-up skills? Dial-up, exactly. Your internet makes noise?

We got the fastest internet a human being can have. What is it? 200 a month? Tops. 200 a month? 200 a month? Tops. 200 a month? 200 a month tops. What kind of iPhones you buying every day? There's 20,000 a month.

Yo, you know what's wild? Hillary should have been using it. $125,000 in charitable donations per month, right? The girl who does her laundry and cleaning only gets 10 grand. Real talk, think about that. She got, real talk, think about that. You got potentially illegals that need all that charity and they only get in 10,000.

Maybe he's hiring the husbands to play mariachi for them or something. That'd be fire if they did that shit. Yeah, this is an absurd list. Somebody must have

made up this list. This can't be real. It can't be. There's no way. The list might be made up, but the request If it's your lawyer, fire that guy.

So here's my curiosity with how this divorce hearing shit goes. Are you just supposed to throw out a stupid number and then it never gets there? I think so. I think it's a settlement. It's an out-of-court settlement, especially with rich people. This also could be a fuck you of, to Dr. Dre, of, I'm going to ask for $2 million a month and I'm going to get close to it and I'm not even going to try. I'm going to put together the dumbest fucking list you've ever seen in your life because fuck you i'm taking a bunch

of your money you piece of shit 20 000 a month for my cell phone yo you know what she could be brilliant you might be right and and on top of that this is where something she didn't actually see coming dr dre got ahead of this i beat women story he He put it in the movie, didn't he? No, that wasn't in his version. That was the Lifetime version. Oh, it was one of their movies. Yeah. Right? They showed him a little aggressive,

but they didn't show him put his hands on it. But we knew that he beat women. Yeah, we knew. So now she's like, I'm going to ruin your reputation as a wife beater. And he's like, beat you to it. Right? Like, you can't really.

Like, we must have accepted that Dr. Dre beats women. None of us stopped using beats by Dre. LeBron's still walking around with his wife beater beats by Dre. Right? All these celebrities still beats by Dre. For the record, I think he has since apologized for his behavior in the past. You know, one of those, oh, sorry, I'll do better. Exactly.

So, like, he's come to terms with it. So she can't really use that as leverage if we already know it about him. You know, if we found out Matthew McConaughey was beating his wife, that's new information. You think when somebody. Johnny Depp. Remember Amber Heard was like, yo, he beats me. We were like, Captain Sparrow out here beating bitches?

Ain't no way he's beating bitches. He's breaking my heart. That fucks with his image. Now you coming in his bottom line. We already know Dr. Dre beats women and unfortunately we're all like headphones is slapping bro. Do you know what I mean? That's how it was with R. Kelly

in his film. Say what? That's how it was with R. Kelly in his film. Yeah but I'm an asshole for pointing that out. Also Dr. Dre been disappointing us since never putting out the Chronic Volume 2. Didn't he ever put that out. Also, Dr. Dre been disappointing us since never putting out the Chronic Volume 2. Didn't he ever put that out? I don't know. He put Detox. That's what we wanted. He put out that

Compton album. Yeah. Did we like that? It was alright. Pretended it was good for Compton. So we used to be let down by Dr. Dre. He's looking by the headphones. You're right, because if Will Smith came out saying that, that would be complete cancel and everything.

Same thing with Bill Cassidy. Her little cheating thing, we might be like, when did that happen? We might say that. We might be curious about that. And I mean that. I'm just saying like an act of passion.

I'm not saying it justifies it. I'm not saying it's right. You think we love Will Smith so much if we heard some shit like that, we'd be like, what did Jada do? Now, yeah. What if it was before cheating, you'd be like, I'm just going to's right. I'm about to say, clean that up. You think we love Will Smith so much if we heard some shit like that, we'd be like, what did Jada do? Now, yeah, probably. What if before cheating,

you'd be like, I'm using the full story. Because Will is such a sweet guy. Yeah, I love Will. He's such a sweet, I know. He's such a sweet guy. He got an 800 on his SAT verbal,

so he could probably figure out a much better way to hurt her with words. He definitely doing entanglement. That's for sure. How do you know that he had 800? Son, I be knowing every smart person

he got into mit indian parents hold all that shit over your head he got into mit before they had to accept you if you're a minority yo facts like he got into mit yeah before white guilt yeah right yeah 100 100 like that's a real accomplishment son that motherfucker is a genius his choices were go to MIT or be the most famous 20 year old or whatever

18 year old in America these are your choices and he made the right choice oh he had a number one song in high school number one song in high school he was in high school

when he did that he said there's no feeling this is after Independence Day and all that shit he said there's no feeling like still having the number one song in the country

and being in high school everything else I've done is not as cool as that was I i didn't know he was that young you didn't know that no i had no idea he was i thought he was i thought i know way too much about will smith like there's a little there's a little that's why i don't watch porn i just be watching independence day he's a co-, but he's such a superstar he takes over the whole fucking movie. You remember that movie

as if he's the only star. He's in a quarter of the movie. He knows all his bio data. Back to world. No, Will Smith, holler at me. This is fucking tragic, bro. This guy accomplished all that

and his wife's getting creamed by some dude with crusty hair. August Alsina. Come on. Crusty hair. He has actually really nice hair. No, not that red shit. He looks like Krusty. It's curlsina. Come on. Krusty hair. He has actually really nice hair. No, not that red shit. He looks like Krusty.

It's curls. Whatever. He looks like the curl from The Simpsons. No, no. No, that's black hair hate. Don't do that. That's not black hair hate. That's Simpsons hair hate.

He's hating on the color of the hair. I've never heard black hair hate. What do you mean black hair hate? It's a new one. What are you talking about black hair hate? Because that's his hair. You've got Akash's cousin's hair on right now. What are you talking about? hair hate? Because that's his hair. You got Akash's cousin's hair on right now. That's a fucking point, yo.

That's a fucking point, yo. That's not appropriate. Bunch of bald Indian bitches walking around scratching fucking lice off of their heads because you bought up all their fucking hair. Leave them alone. They donated. You right.

We ain't donate shit. They don't donate out there in India it started with death you can't be donated they're shaving off their eyebrows giving it to y'all

where's our charitable contributions for your hair y'all what you mean we give y'all mad money for it no you give the fucking shop owner

mad money and it should be going towards y'all though no it doesn't we don't control that we don't control that stop capping her let's go

let's go let's go I can camping. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. I can't love. Let's go. I can't love. Let's go. What you mean? But what if when y'all were asking for freedom, the North was like, you know how much money

I paid for this cotton shirt? Y'all take care of it. Damn, I guess why you got to take it there, bro? Why you got to make it so heavy? Y'all were having a fun light hair discussion. You had to bring slavery all up in it, son. Jesus. I got to go for my people.

I got to ride. Oh, my gosh. I got to ride for my people. So should you wear Indian slave hair? That's what you're saying? Huh? Huh? That's what you just compared it to.

I know. I'm just saying you can't say, oh, you're taken care of. That's not our decision where the money goes. That was O'Allen. One of y'all were saying it. But you make sure that hair is indian don't you anyway look that's all i'm trying to say careful now careful now no eye shots careful now that's what Jada said. Oh my God. What?

Summertime. Yo, you think you ever smashed it to Will's music? Oh, you had to, bro. Wicky, wicky, wobbly. You don't have no... Here comes the man in black. Talk about man in black. You know Will won't do that shit to himself after he found it. Yo, Will need to come out with the pussy he's been getting, bro.

I'm tight. I'm tight, bro. You have been saying that. Why? Why does he have to? He got to even it, bro. Scoreboard is off. Scoreboard is off right now.

You know how much crazier you look with that hair saying this shit? Will needs to come out with his pussy. Even up the scoreboard. Taylor, do you agree with that? Yo, wouldn't you feel as a Philadelphian? Wouldn't you feel? Are you a Philly girl? Yeah.

What's up? Yeah. You didn't hear me say Philly? That's what's up? Like when you were saying your love. That's where Akash's girl is from. Yeah. Hey,'t hear me say Philly? That's what's up? Like when you were saying your love. That's where Akash's girl's from. Yeah. Hey, where?

Northeast. Northeast Philly. Northeast Philly. And by that, he means South Jersey. But it's all good. It don't matter. You know what I'm saying? It's close.

You still say water or whatever. She be saying water sometimes. Water. Your goofy ass accent that you guys got. Yeah, water. I'll say water like a motherfucker. Anyway, point is, wouldn't you feel like will's image would be intact if all the chicks he was smoking out throughout the years came out and they were like yo will smash selfish ass bitch jada whoa wait would girls be upset

about it i want to know the pussy Will was getting on the side. I cannot fathom Will's been faithful this whole fucking time while Jade is out here getting dickity down down. I don't know. I feel like Will does like the non-famous or models maybe. I don't think he does like. I heard he was fucking Margot Robbie. Margot Robbie.

Really? Yo, that's his business, bro. Yo, this guy his business, bro. This guy's wild, bro. Don't share my man's business. He got a family. He got a family. He could be ruining his family.

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Let's get back to the show. All right, yo, did y'all see the Candace Owens Cardi B beef? Yeah. Oh, this shit is so funny, bro. Yeah, this is a tough one. This shit is so funny, bro. Yeah, this is a tough one. This shit is so funny, though. This is a tough one. Why? Why is it tough? I can't say.

Taylor, what's your thoughts on Candice? Say why. Say it, say it, say it, say it. I mean, all her points weren't that off. Who? Candice, right? Candice, yeah. Candice a bad bitch, yo. She nice as this.

I'm sorry. Like, I don't want to, but if you listen to her. Yo, look at Taylor's face. Can you please get to Taylor's face? Please, please. Taylor. Taylor, it's okay. Kio, yo, you got mad bullets in your gun. Use them. Taylor, it's okay. Hold up, hold up. And I ain't even started.

I shouldn't shoot you because you're a black man. And that's what's so crazy. Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. Nah, but sometimes. You hear what she just said? I should shoot you because you're a black man. No, I said I shouldn't. Oh, you shouldn't. No. But then sometimes you got to do it.

No. I'm not. No, I'm not doing that. No. I'm not doing that. Okay, so let me just set it up for everybody listening at home that hasn't seen it yet. Okay. Candace Owens is a troll.

She is the 6'9 of right-wing politics. Yes. And she garners her fans by riling up the opposition, especially celebrities that are in the opposition that have dabbled in the political realm. Candace is an operative, a tool used by the right. Okay? She can say all the things that the extreme right cannot say because a lot of times the extreme right are old white guys. So old white guys cannot tell black people to shut up about Black Lives Matter. They cannot tell black people cops don't kill them. They cannot tell black people that they need to leave the Democratic Party because

the Democratic Party is the one that enslaved them and they're just slaves and being used. So they get a black female to do it so that they cannot use her identity against her, right? Because if a white guy said it, there'd be a lot of people just like, oh yeah, you white male patriarchy, shut the fuck up, you're just racist. Black woman does it, you can't

call her. You gotta call her a sellout, you gotta call her a coon or whatever the fuck it is. Right. So she is on Ben Shapiro's show and she calls out Cardi B for being, I guess, a liberal shill. Yeah. Yeah. Which she is.

Now, Cardi, she's saying is being used by the Democrats, which she is. And she says it's insulting to black people's intelligence. And she says insulting black people's intelligence. I think that's debatable. Now, here's the thing. It's okay to be used if you want to be used for that. In other words, any employer is using an employee. If that employee wants to be used for that job, that's a beautiful relationship. And what did you just say Candace Owens is? She is a shill for the Republican Party.

She's being used. 100%. If Candace Owens was a white man, she would be out of the job. 100%. Candace Owens is nothing without her identity. She would be another political pundit. She'd be Rush Limbaugh or one of these other guys

that would just be thrown out to the fray and called a racist and been told to shut the fuck up. But she is a lightning rod because of her identity. Nobody benefits from identity politics more than Candace Owens. And she is the one that's trying to push back against identity

politics. Identity politics goes away. You don't have a job, Candace. And she knows this. In the same way, the right uses Candace, the left uses children to make their arguments. They use Greta Thunberg for the environment. Throw a little girl out there. Right-wing people don't want to criticize a little girl. Throw those kids that were in the school shooting.

Throw them out there and tell people not to use guns. That's the last people you're going to argue with. You're not going to argue with some kids that were in a school shooting, throw them out there and tell people not to use guns. That's the last people you can argue with. You're not going to argue with some kids that were in a school shooting, right? So every political side uses these operatives. Candace is making a true point, which is Cardi's being used. Cardi is saying, yeah, I want to be used. I align with these political viewpoints. Candace is saying, you don't know what they are.

And her point when she kind of, I guess, executed it a little bit further is like, you say you want to save money in taxes. You say you want to do, I think she had a couple other things on her agenda, Cardi B. And it's like, all those things kind of line up with the Republican platform, not the Democratic one. So Candace went about it in this like dragging culture type of way where like I'm going to criticize you. I'm going to make fun of you. I'm going to have the timeline going, oh, you got lit on fire, ooh, whatever.

But the points that she was making about Cardi and when she articulated what Cardi is saying she wants and how the Democratic Party does not service that could stand up. Absolutely. But to say that she's just being used, it's like, yeah, well, Candace, so you're being used by Prager University. You're being used. Like, of course, everybody here is being used. And are people pandering? Yes. Donald Trump is pandering. Cardi B is pandering. Joe Biden is pandering. She's acting like Donald Trump doesn't have Kim Kardashian at the White House and Kanye West at the White House. Everybody's pandering. It's election season, baby. It's time to tap dance. Yeah.

That's what everybody's doing. And we are going to tap dance on the biggest fucking platforms. Mm-hmm. 100%. Now, go. That was the only thing that, so all the points you just made, I agree with. And Cardi pushed back on like, oh, they're not just speaking to me to pander to the black vote. And I disagree

because that's the only reason why they would speak to Cardi B. Yes. That's the only reason. It's just to pander to your fans and the majority of your fans are black people who listen to hip hop and WAP.

Yes. The best response would have been you're just as much of a tool as me. That's just what this is. Yeah. If Cardi clapped back that way, I would have been good, but I'm just a tool as me that's just that's what this is yeah yeah if cardi clap back that way i would have been good but i'm just saying what candy said isn't wrong it's not wrong you they are trying to get black people to vote for biden that's why he has kamala too and that's why he has kamala as well that is a pandering move yeah now the line between pander and service and representation is very

thin, right? I want representation in this movie. Okay, let's put an Indian person in this movie. Are we pandering to Indians? Are we pandering to the left? Or are we representing them? The right wing would say you're pandering. The left wing would say this is progress, this is representation. They can mean the same thing.

But you're both doing it. And everybody's fucking doing it. Literally. Everybody's trying to use it. So is it necessarily bad? I don't know. Is Candace right? That Cardi has probably very limited knowledge of the political sphere. Yeah, sure.

I haven't seen, can't, uh, Cardi say anything that was like wildly prolific when it came to politics. Have you guys? No, I don't even think I could take it seriously. If she did, I'm just so used to old Cardi. Yeah. was like wildly prolific when it came to politics? Have you guys? No, I don't even think I could take it seriously if she did. I'm just so used to old Cardi.

Yeah. Start talking like really thought out points. I'd be like, this is different. Yeah. She's like, I pay millions of dollars in taxes. I don't want to pay as much in taxes. Well, yeah. Okay.

You're a Republican. Or you're everyone actually. Yeah. No one wants to pay money in taxes. Yeah. You know? So I completely understand but this is just like

this is classic Candice and I don't understand why people fall for it I know like why would Cardi fall for it she does this all the time people always fall for trolls

and I don't get it everybody falls for trolls if you're a sports fan skip Bayless means nothing he says why do we fall for these people you know what it shows

insecurity it's like real security would be you can excuse me real security would be you can excuse me real security is somebody's talking shit about you you know that that thing isn't true so you don't respond to it right canis struck a nerve and the nerve was and this is my assumption i don't know cardi my assumption is cardi felt canis was right yeah or her insecurity about her political knowledge or how she's being used

etc. The only reason you respond to criticism is because you believe that criticism about yourself or it is so absurdly wrong. It's not even the sphere of reality. And even in those situations you're like I don't dignify that with a response. Charlamagne asked Diddy, yo did you have Biggie killed or whatever it is or Tupac

killed? Remember and Diddy's like I'm not even going to dignify that with a response so honestly it's like stop falling for this shit I don't understand it why do people get caught every time Tommy Lahren would do the same thing she'd say one thing black Twitter go crazy we did it to black Twitter I didn't think this would even work I didn't even mean it when we were like who's blacker adele or beyonce it's a it is the most obvious joke no it is blacker than beyonce it's even more obvious more obvious joke did you see last week we said adele is more is blacker than beyonce and then we started going through all these reasons why like adele the name is blacker than beyonce like we just saw every reason like

it was it was the most absurd in the world like who makes better mac and cheese like all these absurd things there were blue check marks on twitter debating about how toxic this was how problematic this was i couldn't believe it i couldn't believe it and all you're doing is making us more famous, theoretically. Like, that's why, not that we did, but Candace Owens, if she just existed and Black Twitter wasn't up in arms, she just exists. Tomi Lahren, I feel like I watched it happen where I heard about her once or twice, and then all of a sudden she just became this thing because everybody would get outraged by whatever she said. There's no substance to what she's saying.

Yeah. Let a crazy person rant on the side of the street. If you get offended by every crazy person on the subway saying crazy shit you just make them more powerful let them live let them go away ignore them yeah yeah i mean candace is just going to gravitate towards where the money is and there will always be money for a person of the opposite race willing to criticize their own. There will be money for white people that are willing to trash white people on behalf of minorities. And there will be money for minorities that are willing to trash minorities on behalf of white people. Yeah.

Because you need those Trojan horses out there. And the more upset you get by them, the more their people give them power. Because they're like i love how much he pisses off black people i love it i love it we got to keep supporting this girl she's the best if you just didn't give a fuck she just exists and nobody really cares and you know it's you know it's a real shame i think about candace is that like she is a product of outrage culture. Mm-hmm. But she's a very eloquent and smart woman. Yes. And she's got star power,

and she's fucking brave. Yeah. That woman is- She can use that power for good. Exactly. Or just use that power for, regardless of it's good or not, justice.

Not outrage. Yeah. Like, not lowest common denominator, like going after Cardi B. Like, don't you have bigger fish to fry? Like, go after corporate maniacs. Do you know what I'm saying? Go after Clinton.

Yeah, you can go after Clinton. You can go after, there's so many different things that you can go after. I guess, like, but she does that for the same reason 6ix9ine does it. Right? I'm sure 6ix9ine is like, yo, I can make really catchy songs, but nobody's's going to listen unless I tattoo four leaf clovers on my face and I start beef with everybody in Chicago. Then they listen. So unfortunately, I got to do that. But if you could just make the catchy songs, if we rewarded that, that's what they would do.

And I bet you if we rewarded Candace just having like a nuanced opinion about politics that just happened to be right wing. And not on race. And it wasn't necessarily about race. And matter of fact, by not mentioning race, she might get way more black people to go, huh, that person looks like me. She's making really good points. And she's not calling everyone who disagrees with her

a fucking sellout or coon or whoever they call her, that shit, I'm saying the same thing. But it's like the outrage culture we exist in is making us lose people that could be really effective and talented. Yeah. And that's not our fault only it's their fault for falling for it you know i'm saying like we could play lowest common denominator

every saturday when we do those pieces we don't we take a nuanced point of view yeah i guess you gotta fucking be willing to sacrifice i don't know it is a much quicker path but i think the ceiling is lower yes because she goes where she evokes a strongest response which is obviously a black woman criticizing black people and that evokes such a strong response it is a fast track to the middle yeah to the middle that's better said fast track to the middle the ceiling greatness is people who build and try to be nuanced and in the end that wins but she is fast tracking her way to the fucking janice can't be in politics no now eventually maybe she can do the ben shapiro pivot where ben shapiro was like In the end, that wins, but she is fast-tracking her way to the fucking... Candace can't be in politics. No. Now, eventually, maybe she can do the Ben Shapiro pivot, where Ben Shapiro was super

antagonistic to black people, and now he's like, I'm just a regular, nuanced Republican, right? It's like... Because he realized he's in the middle. He's stuck in the middle. Exactly. I can only go so far with this. So, Candace is going to have her pivot, and then I guess I would say to any of the Candace

detractors, I would go keep that same energy with her and remind her to keep that same energy yeah when she she will make that pivot she's not a critical match but she's gonna make that pivot where it's just like once her protectors and the people paying her are go okay you're famous enough where you actually kind of like need to be a little bit more mainstream welcome everybody in the fray a little bit more she will make that pivot and just remind her hey you are just as bought as the people that you were saying are also bought yeah there's gonna be a time where she needs black moderates to vote and she's gonna have to back off and then yeah remind her no that's you got here with this shit you sit in that yeah all right we're gonna take a little break pay some

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I think it was only five episodes. Yeah. They're about like 45-minute episodes. Yeah. And the new season that just dropped, it's called Chef's Table. Okay. And basically they're these like long form stories

where they dive into a chef and the style of cooking that he or she does and also their story. How they came to be, how they came to be this successful and their restaurant and this season is about barbecue specifically and i cried i think at almost every episode these are so well done so beautiful they're not about the food to me what they're about is the ones that really got me are people learning how to dream okay walk me through it i love a show that is

about something outside of the show okay they trick you into thinking it's a show about a high school football team but it's really about your passions your love your sacrifice whatever friday night lights was really about you know and i'm watching the show about these shifts and i swear to god akash i think the closest thing to being a stand-up comic is being a chef. Explain. People go, oh, comedy's just like boxing. Like all these nerd comics that never fucking stepped in the ring before. Comedy's just like, it's nothing like boxing.

I used to box. Nothing like it at all. Yeah. When you go into the boxing ring, the person standing in front of you doesn't want you to beat the shit out of them. Right. That's stand-up. Yeah.

The guy paid money to laugh at you. Right. The guy in a boxing ring wants to kill you right very different experience right this chef's table the amount of time and energy that they put in to like innovating and making that dish right so that you can enjoy it. And their night is made based on you liking it or hating it. Their validation comes from you liking it. Yeah. Matter of fact, my good friend Brian, who you met, is a chef.

And we identify so much with like, so much of my self-worth is this food right here. That you love and that makes me feel good. Or you're like, eh. And that fucking crushes me. Yeah. It's like bombing because it is bombing yeah and he puts his creativity into it he puts his time into his passion his love his innovation how can i change this dish how can i make this dish better what

can i do to make it better and there's these fascinating stories of different people but there's this common theme which is like learning how to dream right this guy named rodney scott he's from like this really small town in South Carolina. He was told that in high school, all he was going to do is go down the block and start cooking up hogs or whatever. That's what he did on his graduation day. He thought that he was nothing more than that. I think one of the greatest things I've ever gotten, if I have any privilege in this world, it is my parents teaching me how to dream. Like ever since I was young, just dream. I've never thought there was something I couldn't do because I just dream it.

And then eventually that is the biggest hindrance to so many people. Right. Is the idea of just even dreaming of this thing that you want to create, conquer, do. Right? And this guy thought he was just going to be there making, he was depressed. His dad had like a stroke. He had to take over the business. And then he started taking over the business.

He started like getting a little creative and like making some changes in the business. And like you can, as he tells the story, like you can see him reliving him finding confidence. Right. And then he was scared to go out and branch out of his little town. Right. And then his barbecue burnt down. Ah. And then he started to branch out and do something like his little town. Right. And then his barbecue burnt down. Ah. And then he started to branch out and do something like Papa Barbecues.

And finally, this guy was like, please come to Charleston, South Carolina, right? Which to us, maybe it doesn't seem like a big city. But to him, when he's coming from his tiny little town to go to Charleston. Northern Roads. Is the fucking biggest thing in the world. Right.

And he finally gets the courage to go do it. And he ends up winning best chef in the world right and he finally like gets the courage to go do it and he ends up winning best chef in the southeast of america and you can as he's telling the story you can see his self-esteem just inflating right and he's like okay now we just gotta see how far we can push it what we can do next what we can take this well let's go some other city how many other cities i want to take over the world you see a guy go, I'm never going to be in anything than this guy that cooks hogs down the block to, I'll take my restaurant, I'll put it wherever the fuck I want. And it's like the most beautiful feeling.

Because if there's one thing I could ever give anybody, it was the ability to dream. Yeah. I don't care if there's one fucking thing. I think that little kernel, that little seed you put inside anybody, that and some hard work is all they need for success. You might not accomplish every single thing, but you're going to accomplish more without that ability. And I'm telling you, this show is so beautifully done.

Go watch this show. Everybody listening right now, go watch this show. You should check it out as a comic. I think you'll listen to it. Someone who's just passionate about your craft. Like seeing them innovate, I relate to it so much. How can we do things different? Right.

How can we change things? Like I'm seeing these guys, there's this restaurant in Chicago, this fucking chef with three Michelin star restaurant, one of the best restaurants in the world, gets tongue cancer and loses- Oh, fuck.

His sense of taste. Yeah. He loses, I mean, this is almost like out of a cartoon story or something like that. Loses sense of taste. It's like Beethoven with music. He has to make dishes with his brain. And they developed a system where it's like based on the salt level,

he's like, okay, is it salty like a pickle? That'd be a five. Is it salty like a pickle that'd be a five is it salty like you know like bread that'd be one or something like that and based on that he's able to like put together these crazy dishes innovating like he finds a way to like make sugar float and you like drink balloons i mean it's just they're crazy things they're doing and they're just going how can i push this further how can i make something innovative different yeah and i was so fucking inspired by it man i'm gonna watch this you guys gotta check it out yeah i mean it was so good the guys who made it i hope that they listen or somebody tells them about this because i think they did such a fucking incredible job of like

getting into the story getting into the characters but also like getting into like what the ethos of the show was yeah and i always think of these things like you know people will ask like as far as a career goes like the decisions that we've made you know and like what is the competitive advantage you know maybe we've had and i've always thought it was like bravery i think anybody who like looks at the industry can see trends i don't think i'm like unique in that regard like i think you just sit down there long enough and you go oh oh yeah, I think everything's going towards the internet. I think everything's going towards YouTube

or even like going towards short clips and that kind of stuff. But like we will do it. We were flagrant when it was not the right time to be flagrant. Right. But we knew that that's what the people needed. Yeah.

We knew that that's what the craving was. We knew this was going to come to an end. PC was going to come to an end. Absolutely. And it's like, I don't always, it's just so cool to see it was like refreshing to see these other people in a completely different field but like view their craft the same way yeah you know like i remember like after doing the views from the sis special like i was like how do i go further with this like what is okay we did these crazy jokes okay there's all these people

in the crowd like Like what is, what can I do differently? How can I create a different experience? Like I go, okay, like what if I just, what if I just make the jokes up on the spot? You know, and I remember like looking at the people, I admired how they did crowd work. And I was like, okay, how can I do this different?

Like what can I change about crowd work? And then I remember going like, okay, if people ask, what is a typical question with crowd work? It's like, so what do you do? Yeah. I remember going like, okay, if people ask, what is a typical question with crowd work? It's like, so what do you do? I remember going, all right, but what if I don't do the jokes about what they do, but what if I do the jokes about who they are?

Like what if I'm talking to you about your identity? Who you are, what you believe in. That's the highest stakes. That's if it goes badly, you're super offended. You're fucking pissed off. And it can be really awkward that's if it goes badly you're super offended you're fucking pissed off and it could be really awkward but if it goes great the fucking sky's the limit right right and it's like on that that little thin line between like success and failure is every cooking a little too much salt destroys the dish right right and a little too much edge whatever it is could destroy that bit with that person.

And it's like, how do we find the fucking way to do it? How do you find a way to create that? Even with the monologue shows, it was like, okay, we can't do live shows.

How do we do comedy without an audience? How do we figure that shit out? Yeah. How do we switch little things so it's not uncomfortable you tell a joke into a void? I don't know.

I just think that you'd appreciate it so much. I think anybody who like is passionate about whatever the fuck their craft is, I think they'd find a lot of joy in it. Absolutely. Check it out.

Yeah, man. I'm tuning. You got it. Did you watch it yet, Al? No, not yet. I think you, and also just the cinematography is fucking great. Yes. It's also dope to watch people at any, at a high level of anything talking about it.

Yes. There's shit you won't understand with the nuances of the whatever, if it's cooking dishes, talking funny with Seinfeld and Rock and Louis C.K. Yes. It's like, all right, there's nuanced shit you only't understand with the nuances of the whatever if it's cooking dishes talking funny with seinfeld and rock and louis ck was like all right there's nuanced shit you only get if you're a comic but also just talk listening to people do anything at a high level talk about yes that thing is like there's a passion that comes through there's an emotion that you feel that resonates with something inside of you that's like oh this is dope there's one part that you're gonna love and you'll be there for the whole you know experiments if you watch it but one of the chefs uh he has again this is the chicago one who lost his sense of taste and then it came back eventually but um he has the most successful

restaurant in chicago people spend crazy amount of money it's amazing yeah and he keeps changing the menu and people like what the fuck are you doing we're sold out yeah people are going to come here it's going to be new people it's not the same people you don't have to worry about doing the same dish or jokes over and over again right yeah he got tired of his material like we get tired of our material it's not for you it's for me it's for he says it this is why i wish i was watching it with y'all man because like he goes he goes if we do a greatest hits he goes that's great of dishes he goes to me the death that's the death of cooking the death of creation the death of creation all right literally that's the death of creation yeah that's the opposite we're not creating anymore we're not pushing we're not trying we're not

trying to find something to do it's like this is the new thing now doing the monologue is a new thing now we're going to create a new thing later we're going to create a new thing after that we're going to because that's what we do we like creating there's no passion in it to the point that i look at people who can do the same joke over and over with a certain level of envy like how do you do this thing with no passion? How do you find passion in the same thing over and over? Because they're addicted to the result, not the act. They're not addicted to creation. They're addicted to the result of that thing.

Yeah. Right? So they're like, ooh, I get the claps. Okay, I'm fine. As long as I'm getting claps, I won't write anything new. But once I stop getting claps, then I'll write new. Yeah. We get claps on some shit that we write.

And then eventually we're like, all right, I think I'm done with that. Yeah. yeah it gets to the point i know i'm done with the bit where i hate them for laughing at it i'm like i fucking yeah i'm such a loser man i love you laughing this dog shit at i know there's a thousand times you regular ass motherfucker and that's great to them it's just you are addicted to the creation that's the sign of true creative yeah and that's the thing where like you see like these um oftentimes like corporate structures exist right yeah and what they do is they don't they're set up for people who are not creating right there it's a moat to protect what exists and is yeah and stop letting innovation in. Because they cannot continuously innovate. What's the idea of a monopoly, right?

If I just control all of the things, I don't need to make anything new. Also, there's safety in not being creative. I know this is monetizable. I know I can make money on these dishes to line out the door. What are you creating for? Don't create, stop creating.

And if you're not a creative, that works perfectly. Matter of fact, creativity threatens you. It frightens the fuck out of you yeah right someone who could come along and create something cooler than your shit yeah i need to squash him yep i need to i need to shut him down i need to make sure he's not doing anything it's terrifying yeah internet terrifies these motherfuckers because now we can come out here we can create our shit and we could put that fucking pressure and make them have to change as well and that's what yeah that's what comedy's become they're they're caving yeah you know it's funny now i think about i remember one of the reasons i didn't ever get an agent is they would ask how many minutes do you have and i would have no fucking clue yeah because i don't think about

comedy and like getting six minutes or seven minutes or eight minutes i'm always trying to do a new joke i'll definitely do i need validation i'm not some fucking guy who's cool bombing of course so i'll do the joke sometimes that i love but for the most part i don't want to do a new joke. I'll definitely do, I need validation. I'm not some fucking guy who's cool bombing. So I'll do the jokes sometimes that I love, but for the most part, I don't want to do those. I want to be doing new shit. So when you say, how many minutes do I have? I will go, I can do as long as you need me to do. How many minutes do I have?

I have no fucking clue. I haven't formulized. I haven't made my comedy that formulaic that I know this is three minutes and that's two minutes. And how the fuck do y'all even do that? And to somebody who's not passionate about it, that's terrifying. So you almost got to get to the highest level.

You got to be the guy who's lying out the door and then you've proven you can keep changing it for them to finally go, all right, let them do the fucking thing. Yeah, 100%. And there is a balance, which I'm sure that you've reached, which is like,

well, you were going to say something, Al. What was it? Oh, yeah. No, I was just saying, it's cool hearing you guys talk about your creativity from a comedic stance. And when I first got into this, I didn't think of myself as a creative.

I was like, oh, I just enjoy doing it. So it was like a hobby that became something I was good at. I was like, all right. And then I realized I kept catching myself trying new things. Like once I got good at something, I was like, oh, I want to do something. Because the old shit is like, it's old to me. And even though people still like it,

it's like, ah, it's still the old shit. And like hearing you guys talk about this every time, like now when I do little additives in a little Instagram clip, the only shit I care about are the people who notice those little nuances. It's like, oh, that shit was dope. That's the only shit I like. Yeah. Because that's what I'm doing it for. Because that's your creative outlet. It's like, just like cooking is their creative outlet. Yeah. And there's someone on that cooking team, and what he does is fucking salad. Yeah. and he finds a way to make that salad slap yeah you know like he might put the salad on the grill right like who knows you try to find a new way to get some flavors out of it when i start working with a person for like camera work i

always start editing whatever i'm like yo i want you to try everything that's what that's how alex got so nice try every year that's like the thing i like most about you is i'm always trying to find a little thing to do that's different this is so sweet yo but it's true i love this guy no dude you gotta let people go like i love y'all dude love y'all man love y'all taylor yeah taylor said i said i love you taylor um you gotta say it to me i just met you you know i mean you could say it to drew andrew up andrew schultz alex media you work with every week you can't say it thank you thank you we'll take the group one even though it don't mean as much it's safer it's a safer version but that is just to wrap it up but that is an interesting thing

about like how create how threatening creativity is and like how people try to control those environments yeah right and like don't get me wrong work being able to like mix with the mainstream is important like you've recognized throughout your career we've had conversations about this like you know that you need to have an hour you know you need to have x amount of minutes if you're going to do this if we're going to do a project that's 15 minutes long you know you need to have that ironed out and we've had these conversations it's not that, and the people who are truly successful understand how to function within the rigidity of these structures and the creativity of absolutely zero inhibitions and zero limitations. And like blending those things together.

And that's what these chefs do. And that's what successful comics end up doing. You can't be too much rigid because there's no creativity and you can't be too much just creative because you can't monetize that. Yeah. You want to just go tell jokes into a wall?

Go for it. Yeah. Great. That's not the business. Right. You want to be in the business, right? Yeah. If you want to be in the business,

you're signing up. It's like you want to play for the NBA? You could play pickup. You want to play in the NBA? Be in shape to play 48 minutes because that's how long the fucking game is. You want to dribble however you want to dribble and one shit, go for it. Go be as creative as you want to play in the nba be in shape to play 48 minutes because that's how long the fucking game you want to dribble however you want to dribble the and one shit and we'll go for it yeah go be as creative as you want to here you be creative within this offense exactly and there's yeah so anyway i just think it's so i think it's so cool and i just think that like

it's great to see other people look at stuff the way you do yeah and i'm sure there's people listening to this podcast and they're not stand-ups but they're in advertising or they're in these other fields and they're like, oh yeah, the way he's talking about stand-ups is kind of how I feel about advertising. How I feel about art or whatever it is.

And it's like, yeah, fucking innovate. Put that foot on their neck. You should absolutely do that. Yeah. Anyway, let's take a break.

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Is he not good enough? We've been having this conversation, I think, now for the last at least year, maybe two years, which is until he can shoot, he's just going to be a regular season MVP, which is great, but he's not going to be able to win. Right. Simple as that. And I think it was similar to who else were we comparing him to?

Like there are certain players who are like, like it was so hard for Rondo to get a ring because you could just kind of like sag off of him. Yeah. You know, you create real difficulties. Yeah. For your team, not the opposing team. Yeah. When you're that easy to defend. Yeah, Rondo is who we compared him to, yeah.

Rondo, I think there was other ones too, but it doesn't matter. So he turns his ankle. I can't tell you how bad turning your ankle is. I saw the video. He turned it. He had turned it, I think, in game three also, and then again. He was questionable for game four. My feeling is like I saw Doncic turn his ankle severely.

Yeah. And come back and play 40 fucking minutes the next game right finish that game i think yeah i mean like again i don't know how bad your tweak is i've tweaked both my ankles in ways where like i couldn't fucking walk for weeks so i'm not gonna put that pressure it just seems to me like maybe the pressure was getting for to him and he was looking for an out. And then he ends up, his team ends up winning the game when he leaves the floor. And that has to destroy any confidence that you have left. You're already feeling it publicly. You're feeling it from every pundit. Not just Skip Bayless. Everybody is being critical of your play yeah

you go down your team wins are you not built for the playoffs that's got to start going through your head has to right has to start to get a little shaky now here's what things get tricky the bucks can't let him play. Because if they fuck up this injury diagnosis. He's out. Just like Kawhi. Chris Bapps, Kawhi. Oh, okay. Oh, okay.

The Bucs are fucking terrified right now. Yes. Oh, shit. They are shit in their pants. The future of their organization is playing like shit in the playoffs, is coming up on, I guess, next year is where he can sign the extension. Yes. He wants to, I believe he wants a test free agency, which is fine.

Doesn't mean he's going to leave the Bucs. Yeah, he's done the regular rookie contract and then the extra five years. Right. And then he's done after next season. Right. Yeah. But I think next season is when he can sign that five-year extension no he's already done that i think he's been in the league like six years seven years i'm like that you honest

we just didn't hear about him because he wasn't really good at first no no i know that but i'm saying uh i think he has one more year yeah one more year contract yeah and i think if he signs so what happens is if you sign to your team before you go into free agency you do the five year max and I think as long as

the collective bargaining agreement is the same and I think if you do it afterwards you do the four years so it's a way to like incentivize your own team to keep its players

right and I think remember they're like yo James Harden can make an extra 20 or 30 million if he stays with the Rockets

or something like that he ends up doing it point is they're fucking terrified. Future of their franchise has an ankle injury. He's playing like shit in the playoffs.

You want him to play so you have a chance to win, but you don't want him to further injure the ankle. And then blame you. And then you're the assholes. And give any excuse whatsoever. So now you got to

push back against his competitive instinct. I'm sure Giannis is going, I want to play. Let me fucking play. What the hell's going on? So the organization got to go, don't let him play. And now you look like you don't want him to win. Let me fucking play. What the hell is going on? Right. So the organization got to go, don't let him play.

Yeah. And now you look like you don't want him to win. Right. And he's going to get the brunt of the criticism. Yep. I mean, what do you do if you're the GM? You hope they win. Obviously without him.

You don't want them to lose. You sit him out next game and then you hope he heals in time for them to come back in game six or seven or whatever. You just hope. So you sit him. You have to. 100%. You have to. You have them. You have to. 100%. You have to.

You can't sacrifice one game where you're down 3-0 and nobody's ever come back in history. It's not worth it. Like no team has ever done this and we think you can, sure, but we're going to rush you back from an injury for that? Yeah. For the potential that you might do it? And then don't you think there's a chance they lose them

because now if they lose the next game and they get knocked out, he could be salty and be like, hey, we lost because you didn't let me play. Fuck you guys. I'm out of here. So it's like a lose-lose. But you got to tell, yo, man, we have to look out for your best interest. And then you got one more year to try to convince him to stay and you fucking pray you win the finals that year. You fucking pray.

Because you still got one more year. If this is his last year, it's adios. He's gone. Don't matter. I don't think he's got it, bro. I heard a rumor. Talk to us. This is a little rumor, not a big deal. But it is a big deal when you think about it, but it's not a big deal.

Apparently, and again, not that big deal, but it has big deal ramifications. Apparently, there's a guy out there in the bubble. You see all the guys practicing. He said he's seen Giannis airball at least six free throws. Now, you shouldn't be airballing free throws. If you're airballing free throws, not in the game,

just practicing, there's something structurally and functionally wrong with your shot. That is something to take into consideration big time. Because Giannis wants to lead his team. He's not going to accept that pippin' roll. But if he can't shoot, he's going to

have to be pippin', bro. He's going to have to be pippin'. Because they have all the pieces around him to protect the fact that he can't shoot, and they still can't win. Are we thinking something structurally wrong like Marco Polo? Wrong? Like that level? Yo, whenever Giannis shoots to me, there's a hitch in it.

Have you guys seen it? No, you said that. Kind of like hitches and then he shoots. I guess I can see it when you do that. A little bit, right? Yeah. And I'm like, either you got to cut that shit out, or you have to do some sort of set shot or something like that.

Like P.J. Tucker, for example. He has a little hitch in his shot, but all P.J. does is sits in the corner. He's got one place he needs to shoot from and nowhere else. It functions for him. Giannis, we want him to be able to shoot off the dribble, right? We want him to be able to play like the MVP superstar that he is. When you see the way that he's playing in the playoffs, and you see the way that LeBron is playing in the playoffs now, there's no comparison between the two of them, right?

Right. When you see the way LeBron played in the playoffs when he was younger and the way that he's playing in the playoffs now, were they comparable? I think so. That's how the Spurs won their first, won their whole game plan when the Cavs went to the finals and got swept. Just make.

Let LeBron shoot. Make him shoot. Even, I think, the second time when they lost, they were still just like, make him shoot. That's interesting. That's the whole game plan. Make him shoot. Now, LeBron's jump shot might be better mechanics

than Giannis'. Yeah. I also think this is kind of what it is for every great player. It's just in those moments, the magnifying glass is so intense that you can't do it. LeBron didn't his first eight years in cleveland or whatever mj didn't win his first six seven years with chicago yannis took longer to develop and he's in that period now

where it's like yo all the pressure is on can you deliver and i think it takes a little while to learn how to do that yeah lebron had to go get duane wade to do it now duane wade wasn't as good of a player as him but mentally he was ready for it. So that first year, all right, cool, I'm here. And then I think the next year Dwyane Wade got hurt, but he said to LeBron, you got to take this over. And he did, but it's not easy, man. It's not a fucking easy thing to do.

How much do you think that, how much do you think getting over the hump is an actual thing? I think it's huge. Really? I think it's huge. I bet if you look at Kyle Lowry's playoff numbers if they win

this series because that's the guy we used to talk about. He's so in his head. He's reading self-help books and all that. And then he got that finals and I said this

and this is what I think Harden is doing now. Kyle Lowry was like alright maybe I can't score maybe my shot will be off but I can give effort.

I can go get loose balls. I can dive. I can do that. I'll help my team win. Then they won the finals and I think mentally I bet if you watch him in big games now, he'll be a different player. Interesting. James Harden, I think, is doing that where it's like, hey, I might not

always have my shot in big moments. Maybe I miss fucking 33s or whatever in a game seven against the Warriors, but I can play my ass off on defense. Even if he, I heard he was out of bounds or something on the series saving block against OKC, but he went out there and got the block. He played defense. He's playing defense. Right. If you can get over the hump, then the offense is like, oh, I'm good. I already did this.

I'm mentally clear. And I was thinking Giannis, air ball and free throws in practice, he might just be so in his head right now that he's just, even in practice, I'm fucked. But once you get over that hump, that's all gone. I got the monkeys off my back. What's in my head? Can he repeat? fucked and once you but once you get over that hump that's all gone i got my the monkey's off my back what's in my head can he repeat sure that's there but that's a much smaller thing than can he get one how much can we put that like the monkey being on your back right how much through psychological warfare can i put a monkey on someone's back oh heavily i'm sure that's 99 percent of the trash talk you? You can't say you're

not better than me, or you can't say you're better than me. That's not the case for most players in the league, but it is. You can't get this done. You're not good enough. That's a thing. That comes on and off the court, too, because the media constantly saying, oh, his shots off, his shots off. Every question is about it. You can see how he was

getting snappy. He's constantly being reminded of that from Yeah. From outside and then in his own head. And you're in the bubble so it's not like you could go to a restaurant and cut loose. You're literally surrounded by the motherfuckers who are judging you. Right? You got the team that you're playing in the same, at least

neighborhood, right? I mean, you just can't escape. I bet if you asked Paul George what's his biggest regret, it would be naming myself Playoff P. He is not living up to it, B. Because that once, now you put that on your own shoulders in every bad game you have. I think Mello said to him, you can't take that back now.

You have a bad game. You're Playoff P with a bad game for the rest of your career. They're going to be like, you Playoff P? Really, Playoff P? And I'm sure that's just living in his head. What the fuck did I do this for? Why did I bring this on myself? I'm not built for it.

He really is not. No, most people aren't. It's interesting how you see like, yeah, that's true. Most people aren't. It is the rarest of rare. All these guys are unicorns. The rarest of the unicorns is the one that's like, I'm built for it. Michael Jordan was built for it.

Even then it took him a while. But he's built for it. I think Dante's just built for it. I think LeBron had to build himself up to it yeah lebron is like doing everything in his power to live up to that but he might not have it instinctually kobe had it yeah kobe was a killer my god duane wade had it ron had to develop it i feel kobe had it but he still even had to develop a little bit because he had shack there no no No, no, no. That's true, but he would go at it. I think he had that killer instinct. Yes, from

game one. You know what it's like? It's a language. Some people grow up speaking the language and some people got to learn it. All Kobe did was play basketball all day long. Yeah, Kobe I think had it. I think Kobe was sociopathic enough where he was just

so isolated. He talked about the first time, there's an old video clip of him talking about the first time he played against Michael Jordan. And he's like, I'm not afraid of you. I want to know what the big deal is. I want to see how I measure up against you. He's a fucking 19-year-old kid in the All-Star game, whatever it is.

A little fucking punk. And he's like, yeah, I want to see what the big deal is. Let's see what the big, who the fuck thinks like that? That's the kind of person you got to be. You got to be Kobe. Michael Jordan thought the same thing. And that's why Jordan took a liking to him in the end. He's like, oh yeah that's the kind of person you got to be you got to be kobe michael jordan thought the same thing and that's why jordan took a liking to him in the end is like and that's me they grew up knowing the language yes like often how people talk about uh chapelle

even ourselves we talk about chapelle speaks the language of comedy yes he's fluent in it and then there are other people who learn the language like esl right and i think lebron is just so athletically gifted so fucking brilliant in terms of game IQ. But the killer instinct is a second language that he's had to learn. And I think he speaks it really well. Yeah. He's not as fluent as Jordan. Just a little bit different when you're born with it.

Exactly. Yeah. But you could get there. Yeah. Especially when you have those athletic gifts, you could get there. But there's some people like Reggie Miller, that motherfucker was born with that shit. Like there are certain people, Luka miller that motherfucker was bored with that shit like there are certain people luca might got it bro might i'm trying to think who else who else is

like but luca's been to the big game just not here that's another thing we forget he was playing in the euro league at the highest level and here's the thing we don't take euro basketball serious but when you're in europe that's the shit i think i think he won a championship and was mvp i think but i think even to lucas to that point i think even like his first time in he like splashed a three off rip like he was ready there was yep he seemed ready off rip but don't you think that that's yes that helped for sure oh that helped i think mentally duane wade had it physically his body didn't hold up but mentally he, he had it, yo. He was about it. I remember, this is a real quick thing, as I'm watching the Mavs blow the finals in 2006. Game five, where he's at the free throw line way too often.

But after one or two of his free throws, in a huge moment, he looks at somebody on the Mavs on the side, and he just goes, I live for these moments. And the splash is both free throws. And nobody brought that up. You can read his lips. And he didn't cuss at the time. Read his lips perfectly clearly. I live for these moments. He was fucking about it, fucking about it yo let's go okay what's more tragic

having the skills and not having the killer instinct right or having the killer instinct and then your body not holding up so essentially being chris paul yeah or being let's someone who just who just freaks out in the finals james harden right what's more tragic being james hall paul or being james harden chris paul i think chris paul is more tragic it was chris paul again he's a killer mentally he's got it up here his fucking game iq is insane he's an absolutely amazing player but physically he will break down this season is different and because it was different he almost took them to the fucking next round by himself but his body will break down in the playoffs because it just cannot take the wear and tear he's just genetically not built to take the wear and tear necessary

for the killer instinct that he has to be effective versus versus james harden which has all the skills in the fucking world but he doesn't have the killer instinct okay so he starts to fade when the going gets tough which is worse which which is which would you rather i would rather be fuck i think i would rather be chris paul because i know it's just my body wouldn't hold up yeah but for that reason i find it more tragic from the outside like yo this guy has everything he just wasn't born with the physical gifts to get there because yeah that's more tragic if you're yeah because on some level if you're james harden you know you don't got that killer so you could

sleep you'd be like i'm nice as fuck yeah but i'm not really that killer instinct so that's why i haven't won and you know i'm okay with that killer instinct, so that's why I haven't won. And you know what? I'm okay with that because I'll still give any of these guys buckets one-on-one. So personally, I would rather be Harden. You could sleep easier as Harden. I could sleep easier. You don't sleep as CP3, but you know you gave everything.

That's interesting. Yeah. Like James Harden is going to go through his career, whether he gets a ring or not, as whatever, but he'll be like, I was nicer than all these motherfuckers. I was one of the best offensive players. CP3 going to go through his career going, man, if I had the recovery power of LeBron

or if my body held up like one of these other motherfuckers, I would have had all the rings. He's going to be bitter. Now that's going to kill him. That might be worse. You always want to have the killer instinct but that might be fucking worse you want me over l you want me the fuck over you're gonna be tortured

yeah can you imagine michael jordan was had chris paul's body oh my god i don't think he could live he'd kill himself he would kill literally the dude say what kobe would oh absolutely i mean even kobe coming back from the achilles injury like i feel like that was just Kobe would kill himself. Say what? Kobe would. Oh, absolutely. Kobe would not have tolerated it. Yes. I mean, even Kobe coming back from the Achilles injury, I feel like that was just... It was driving him crazy. It was driving him crazy? Yeah.

That's unbelievable. Now, that playoffs has been kind of interesting. What about football? What we got going on football? It starts Sunday and nobody has even thought about it. That's what's crazy to me. Yeah, why is that? Because there's normally all this buildup of preseasonseason games that you fucking hate but they remind you football is

coming you hear training camp shit every day but now training camp is closed off even reporters can barely get in so there's just none of the build-up and it's just gonna start sunday and i think it's gonna be lit as fuck but you're gonna be like oh i forgot dude normally there's all this anticipation and we haven't gotten to see any of the buildup. Just hard knocks, but that's it. But why is that not enough? I feel like there's no media coming out about NFL whatsoever. There's not even cool storylines like Shaquem Griffin got dropped. Alex Smith is still on the roster.

You have weird stuff like that. Yeah, but it's just if you can cover it, if a reporter can cover it fully, he can write about it more fully. There's more reporters writing about it. We get into it. Nobody's in the bubble. I guess there are things happening in the bubble, but the bubble is also, we're hopping right into the playoffs. We didn't give a fuck

about the regular season games before. The only reason we care, kind of looking back, is we're like, oh, Milwaukee never looked right when they got back. Oh, LA is looking right now, but I see how they lost to Portland because they were sleepwalking those first day games. That's just preamble. Now we're in the playoffs, high stakes. When the regular season starts in the NFL, every game is high stakes.

I think we'll be like, let's go. By like week two or three, I think we'll be back NFL talk all day. Really? I think, yeah. Because we're watching games. We're like in it. Yo, I wonder if football being back is enough of a catalyst to calm down

all the rioting and protests that are happening right now in America. I wonder if simply football is... Why basketball wasn't enough? I don't think basketball, because there's so many games

and you know there's going to be games happening, it almost feels like basketball is omnipresent. Like you're like, let me turn on the TV. Yeah, there's going to be some basketball. Like it's just always there. Football has this way because it's pretty much one or two days, I guess. Thursday, every once in a while. Thursday, Monday, Sunday.

So. But it's only four months and you only get 16 games. Yeah. Everything is super high stakes. Yeah. Like. And not only is it super high stakes, it's like the months and you only get 16 games. Everything is super high stakes. Yeah. Like, and not only is it super high stakes, it's like the game itself is high stakes.

Yeah. Your guy could go down any fucking game, right? Like anything can happen with this fucking sport. Right. And I just think if there's no fans in the stands, it's like, you don't have the chance of this group and that group

coming together rooting for the same team. So they're still at home doing it in the privacy of their own home, and then once the game is over, you can go back and root for your side. Politically. But when you're at the game, it's like you can have Black Lives

Matter, dude, and you can have Trump right there, but if you're both fucking Nets fans, I mean Giants fans, you guys are really together. It might just be distraction. Right now, we have no distraction. I was thinking more distraction,

not like it's going to bring us together, but more like distraction, conversation. Something to occupy my mind. Yeah, like even fantasy. People love fantasy, bro. I don't really love it,

but people are really into it, and I just wonder if there's that extra thing, there's that extra conversation piece, there's a driving focus for the week. Every Sunday I know I'm going to be with my friends watching these games. There is something for me to do. Basketball is so omnipresent,

I don't make a date with my homies to watch some basketball. It's eight games. Who cares? I don't think so. You don't think so? It's election season man you know the meat election season gonna matter but that's the way you're going but it's gonna i think calm things down a bit maybe it doesn't maybe it means nothing i just wonder like the

effects of something as massive as football because it's so weird like me ever since corona i've i've become i've like i've lost i haven't lost the value, but the value of sports has kind of dropped a little bit. But sports used to run a new cycle, dude. Football was a – literally, seven days a week, 24 hours a day, 12 months a year. With a four-month season, it made no sense. They were year-round. How the fuck we talk about football all year? I don't know.

You know what I think what happened? We took it out of our routine because there was no sports to be talked about for such a long time. And now we filled up that time with other things. So now that even though sports is back, it's still like, oh, no, I'm not going to just drop the stuff that I filled that time with. So it's like we haven't picked it back up and soaked it into our lives the way that sports was consuming our lives.

I'm curious the ratings. That could be it. I'm curious because I think you will rediscover it like a couple weeks into the season if you're a football fan, which I obviously am. That started to happen to me a little bit with basketball.

Yeah. And that's some shit that happened with my girl. Like we got into a routine of me not watching sports. Yeah. You know what I mean? So like, you know, girls,

they just get used to whatever you do. Right. That they like. Yeah. So now that I'm like watching some sports, it's almost like I'm watching sports on her time. Yeah. It's like, hold on now.

This is sports time. We took a little sabbatical from because this Corona shit. Now we're getting back to the regular, but. It's over. It's over now. You ever give your dog a bone and then you try to take it and they get mad possessive? It's like, hey, bone is over. Sports is here. in here bone time is done bro it's so funny you said there's a thing called a bully that we bully stick yo my happy be fucking growling growling snapped at me one time what's

this okay so it's like this little it's it's some edible form maybe it's like it's legit like a cow dick i don't know if it was that look it up look up bully stick look up what it is you about to be you know you about to find out wasabi is a little slooty and my dog's a little gay looking at these dicks so whatever it's like a dried it's almost like uh like jerky but the most intense form of jerky yeah it's just a chew toy chew toy but they can actually eat it yeah Yeah. Okay. You give it to, I give it to Cookie? Mm-hmm. I try to take the thing back from Cookie, right? Grouse. My girl goes, don't give Cookie the bully because she grouses to try to bite you if

you try to take it back. And I'm watching her tell me this, and I'm just like- It is a bull penis. Yeah. I told you. I be knowing shit, but not really. It's a bull penis yeah I told you I be knowing shit but not really yeah yeah I believe it

oh you did no I wasn't questioning him yeah but my point is like I'm watching my girl tell me this and she's not getting

that she's describing how she is with sports like I'm trying to take my sports back and she's like like

she's not having that we shouldn't have given them corona yo we shouldn't have given the world corona for us to have more time with you. What was, oh my God, I can't believe I'm fucking blanking on his goddamn name. Fat motherfucker that we used to do Geico with. John. John Gabrus.

Gabrus. Gabrus. So Gabrus would do the shit where he would never talk on his phone with his wife, but he would also never talk on his phone with his wife, but he would also never talk on his phone with his friends when she called. He kept consistency with the behavior with his girl and when he wasn't with his girl. Because when his wife calls and he's with his friends,

right, he's like, babe, sorry, I can't go. I don't like talking on the phone with friends. But then when he's with his wife and one of his friends calls him, it's, yo, sorry, I got to go. I'm with my wife. So now friends. But then when he's with his wife and one of his friends calls him, it's, yo, sorry, I got to go with my wife. So now when his girl

calls when he's with the homies, she expects him to hang up. Wow. And if we were smart, we would have kept the same behavior.

We would literally stare at the TV for two and a half hours if it was blank. Hey, babe, this is sports time. Hey,

I want you to get used to this other shit. This is sports time. I'm I want you to get used to this other shit. This is sports time. I'm committed. We are keeping it consistent. Three and a half hours every Sunday. That's it. Staring at a black TV.

Staring. Should have just started playing Madden or 2K. That would have been it. Put on a simulation game like, yo, we watching sports. We watching sports, babe. Get used to it. Did Joe Bunny release another podcast besides the one that I listened to, yo? I listened to a 30 minute clip that he posted

that says what happened with Spotify on his YouTube which has far less subscribers than my YouTube but let's not let's not compare let's not compare guys let's not compare let's not compare listen very successful in his own right my son very successful in his own right no my son

is very successful in his own right you know I can help him out with his YouTube game if he wants, but it's all good. It's all good. So, and I thought, Al, I thought that I was being incredibly fair. I complimented him. I complimented his listenability. I complimented his ability to garner an audience, and I complimented the connectivity that he has with his fans. My criticism came from a fundamental lack of understanding of corporate dynamics

and how they do try to own you. I thought we articulated that. Where's the pushback, Al? Because everybody in the comments were like, y'all didn't listen to shit. And so many people said that. I was like, maybe we didn't listen to everything, bro. What I heard is there's a video clip that my homies checked out when they were talking to me about it and he left out like for

example the watch thing i brought up somebody was like i can't believe spotify tried that watch shit and i was like but he wanted a watch and they were like whoa really i didn't hear that in the clip i listened to where is it i had to go find it in the audio that he said hey i'll take this watch and then they said no because my point was like all right if you're upset at the watch just say no to the watch if it's that offensive and they were like yo that he never said yes to it he said no to it and i was like we listen to different clips because the original podcast when he first talked about it he spoke on it for a really long time more than half hour yes it was about an hour well i that's on him for just saying yeah he released a half hour clip of it.

So maybe that's why you saw. Maybe that's where our disconnect is. Maybe some things were left out of that clip. For example, me saying, oh, you're going to offer me a Rolex? Okay, I'll take a Rolex. And then they still said no. And this also might be, you know, when you have very, very strong fans of a person. And whenever someone speaks out against that person,

they just say, Oh, you're dumb for not agreeing with whatever my fandom. Let me tell you something. I realized Joe Budden clearly is a lot more popular than we realized. Cause our comments are wildly negative on this one. I tried to tell you. No.

And I said, I think in the piece, like he's, he's garnered intense fans, which is amazing, and that's credit to him. I just, from what I read in the clip that he, not read, listened to in the clip that he posted, I didn't see, I saw a fundamental lack of understanding of how corporations operate. That's just what I saw. Now, his criticism of corporations is accurate.

And I now understand. I didn't understand this prior, but not because of Joe Biden, because of something else. But I now understand why you often hear the slave analogy used when it comes to like athletes and like the owners of the teams. You're not realizing that? Well, here's the thing. I never realized it before for this reason. I was like, well, you can't be a slave if you're getting paid millions of dollars. And you wanted to do it. And you wanted to do it, and it's your choice. And I always thought that was insulting

to what slaves went through. It's like, why would you compare what you're doing, playing a sport and getting paid millions of dollars, compared to these people who are forced into servitude for their entire life? Those things are fundamentally different. Here is the connectivity. Being owned. They do own you.

That's what I was going to say. They do own you. They pay a lot to own you, and the money goes to you, but they own you. They own you. And that lack of freedom, when we equate, what do we think of with slavery? Lack of freedom. So that lack of freedom, we jump to slavery. Now, when we think about slavery, we go

black people getting whipped and forced to do these horrible tasks, et cetera. That's way different than a sport. But the idea of corporations, this goes back to our conversation about trying to carve out the moats so they don't have to innovate. The idea behind these corporations is i want to own you they carve out the moat so you're trapped in that fucking house trapped in that house you're trapped in that castle

i want to own beautiful castle beautiful you ain't going nowhere nowhere better like the view that's what it is so the the you you got so excited to go onto the island you didn't realize they put up that drawbridge and they stuck you in there, motherfucker. Stuck. So here's the thing. I understand now where we're coming from. I think the word slave should never be used.

In the same way that I think the word privilege should never be used. White privilege, just don't use the word. It's not a privilege that I don't get shot by the cops. That's what it should be. So stop talking about what should be normal for black people as a privilege. Because then nobody will be on your side to support it. If you go, yo, I want normal, then white people will go, well, yeah, y'all deserve normal.

But when you tell people they're privileged, everybody got shit in their life they don't like. Dad's dying of cancer, you gonna tell me I'm privileged or something like that? Not me personally, but like, then white people are like, well, fuck you for that.

It shouldn't be a privilege, it should be bare minimum. We should all be at bare minimum. Yeah, but that's why we say white privilege because we don't even get the bare minimum. He's just talking from a marketing aspect. If you're trying to get, we understand, you're right.

He's just saying marketing wise, when you say that to white people who are struggling they hear their privilege and like no i'm not privileged and then they push back whereas there might be more if you're just like yo we don't get basic human rights they'd be like oh that's fucked up i get basic human rights my life sucks but i get basic human rights that sucks y'all don't get that like it's just what i'm saying like it's it's a privilege compared to what you're experiencing yeah but I would argue what you're experiencing is should not be the normal it should not be what you're promised by the constitution you're underprivileged yeah you need to boost that up to regular yeah and don't

get me wrong there are people who have privilege billionaires kids me you kids, me. You know what I mean? I'm 6'2". I have both of my parents. These things you could argue are privilege, 100%. But I guess my point is that little marketing thing, I wish we could switch. I wish I could sit down with BLM or all these people, the left, and just be like, yo, get that out of here. Stop talking about it like that. Because I really do

believe there are a lot of decent white people out there that are just like, yo, I don't want people to get less than the constitutional rights they deserve. Like, what the fuck? a lot of decent white people out there it's like yo i don't want people to get less than the constitutional rights they deserve like let's fuck a lot of people are already angry with how their lives are and if you're telling them they're privileged that angry part of them is like fuck you on privilege we're talking about very good at communicating so that was brilliant that's exactly what i'm trying to say yeah they're just angry and then if they they feel like their life sucks and if you tell them they're privileged that part of them is angry and insecure it's like fuck you i'm not privileged my shit i got this this. And if you tell them they're privileged, that part of them is angry and insecure. It's like, fuck you. I'm not privileged.

I got this, this, and this. If you're like, yo, we don't get basic human rights. They'd be like, oh, my life sucks. But y'all don't get basic human rights. Fuck. Yeah. Anyway, so back to the corporate thing. So they want to own you, man.

And it's like, let's take away the word slavery, but talk about being owned. You don't have the freedom to operate as you want to operate. Yeah. I understand it now. And I understand it even if you're an athlete that's getting paid $30 million a year, but you're making that company a billion dollars a year and you don't have the freedom to go make up that other shit. You feel owned. If you're an NCAA athlete, right? You will have the free. Now you do, but before you didn't have the freedom to make money off your likeness,

but they can make billions of dollars off of you. I can understand how you feel owned. Yes, you're signing up to be owned. To that point, Joe said his smallest check was Spotify. So you're feeling like I'm making you billions. You're paying me less than everybody else. I made you the most.

Emotionally, fuck you. You own me. I'm trapped here. Go, go, go.. Go, go, go. I felt, go, go. I would say that's, if he had known that going in, he might be more okay with it. All right, Spotify going to pimp me, but I'm going to pimp them as hard as I can until this contract is up and then it's done.

And I felt bad when I was looking at the comments. I was like, yo, we're pretty nuanced when we talk about things. We actually read and we actually watch the videos. Unless we're doing feelings, no facts, like in something like this is important because it affects us all. And economists were so fucked up. And I was like, well, man, maybe we fundamentally misunderstood, you know, what Joe was trying to say, or maybe we didn't read or like listen to or watch something that he was trying to say, maybe we got this wrong. And then I heard from a grapevine that Joe asked Spotify for $250 million. What?

Yes. Wait. Wait. What? This is a reliable grapevine? This is a reliable grapevine that he asked Spotify for $250 million. So everybody in the comments, shut the fuck up. This goofy out here talking about $250 million.

$250 million? Yo, that business education he was talking about, he's getting. You need to keep educating, buddy. $250 million? Wait, what? They wouldn't even give you a fucking Rolex Submariner. You want 250 million? His line of thinking is,

probably, I outperform all the Ringer podcasts. This is what they got. I should get that. I don't even think he's comparing himself to Rogan. I think he got Rogan. I don't think so either. I don't think that's actually, if I pull back, I can kind of see where he's thinking.

I blow all these podcasts out of the water. I can't say it's a fact. This is alleged. You know what I mean? Now, usually that's enough information for the media to run wild. I got to hear how he came to this number. I think it's The Ringer. I think it's The Ringer.

Ringer was $250 million, right? Yeah, but The Ringer comes with a bunch of shows. Well, you always see the list like how that girl did Dr. Dre's ex-wife. Hey, Taylor. That's ex-wife's lawyer to sign the contract bro yo what's more ludicrous dr dre's ex-wife she sounds man reasonable after joe asking for 250 million dollars right here at least she was married to the man 250 million bro I think that's more than Rogan got

you gotta be crazy to ask for that I think that's more than Rogan got so this is what we were talking about about not truly understanding how corporations operate and the dynamics within a corporation and that was my criticism in that video and thank you so much joseph budden for um making me right i appreciate it i think that's all is there anything else i

guess my only thing is i not even Joe Budden, whoever's listening, the only thing I want the fans who listen to us, who get it, is when you sign a contract, know as much as you can about this deal

when you go into it. Yes. And then do everything you can on the front end to get what you can out of them. And if that don't work for you, start a Patreon. Yeah, because look,

$50 million. I want the camera on Black Alex right now. I really can't understand that. $250 million is crazy. Now, I will say this. I applaud anyone that is creating leverage on an independent platform. That's Joe Budden.

That's us. That's Joe Rogan. That's Joe Budden. That's us. That's Joe Rogan. And creating enough leverage where those contracts that they sign with mainstream media, because we should be able to operate with mainstream media, we should be able to blend. We should just do it in a way that's fair for us. I applaud them that are trying to create those contracts where they are less owned, where there is more freedom to operate. And you earn that freedom by creating the leverage yourself. Joe Budden's best shot at $250 million is go independent.

The next time somebody tries to buy you out, that shit was going to be a lot of money. Because he's going to create something independently that works. And when it works, somebody wants to buy you and then own your shit. 100%. All right, now you're going to have to pay. Joe and them could start a Patreon and probably make more money than they were making or at least the same amount of money than they were making at Spotify.

I bet you. I think they have a devout fan base and I think that they could do well on Patreon because people are already willing to pay for Spotify. But I do applaud anybody that's trying to do it because everything that I've done in my stand-up career has been outside for the purposes of my own success. The reason I share it with other comics

is because I want to create a situation where they can have independence and leverage and then use that leverage to get very fair contracts with mainstream media. Because we shouldn't have to fight mainstream media. The ideal situation is that we work together, but we bring people, they bring people. And if we're both bringing people, we both got to get paid and we both got to have freedom.

Yeah. You know what? I commend them, even though I do think the number's a little ridiculous. I commend them for that feeling of value and saying, hey, if you guys don't give me what I think I'm worth, I'm out of here. So I commend him for that because it also sets the benchmark for everybody who comes after you. Yep. So now it's like it adds a little value to, let's say, hip hop or music podcasts where it's like, yo, look at what I did and now you can value yourself within that range. You create your own value.

Yes. Someone else validates the value. So I'll give him that, but whoa, I need to see how he came to that. No, that's absurd. $250 million is absolutely absurd. Maybe it was $250 million for all the podcasts that would operate under him. Maybe the 360 for him and everybody

on the podcast. Everybody else, this, that, the other. But it's still an absurd amount of money. You just don't have enough eyeballs for it. But look, man, you know. You can have the biggest patreon in the world i'm curious to know those those numbers do that go try it anyway we love y'all we appreciate y'all um thank you guys for listening we do have a patreon episode happens to be the biggest comedy patreon in the world no big deal not i mean not a big deal you know what i mean only the biggest

one in our field of interest that's just what we do that's how we do i mean it's. No big deal. I mean, not a big deal. You know what I mean? Only the biggest one in our field of interest. That's just what we do. That's how we do it. I mean, that's just no big deal. And that's every Friday. So we'll have another episode coming up this Friday. Mark probably won't be here for it. Piece of shit. And it is what it is.

Congrats, Mark. Hopefully Taylor will be there. Taylor, thank you for being here. Thank you so much. I loved it. I just loved Congrats, Mark. Hopefully Taylor. Hopefully Taylor will be there. Taylor, thank you for being here. Oh, Taylor, thank you for being here. Thank you so much for coming. Oh, my God. I loved it. I had so much.

I just loved it. Alex felt so comfortable. You know what I mean? I did. He just feels so. That's more pleasant to look at than Mark. I'll give you that. Is that right?

Way more showered. Way smaller. What are you talking about? Mark has lovely blind locks. Greasy locks. Yeah, they're greasy. They're greasy. I never. You never touched them?

I never touched them Yeah Me neither Anyway Look we love y'all man We appreciate y'all for your support Go listen to Joe Button man They

Listen People fuck with him We're not telling you not to go listen to them Go listen to them I know a lot of y'all fuck with Joe Button Enjoy the fucking podcast This is great Y'all should a lot of y'all fuck with Joe Budden. Enjoy the fucking podcast. This is great. Y'all should be.

And if y'all enjoy a $250 million worth, please tell me because I've never seen anything worth $250 million. I've never listened to anything worth $250 million

of y'all. Yeah, no. Maybe this. Maybe this. This is it right here. I wouldn't charge $250. I wouldn't charge $250, bro. I wouldn't charge $250, bro. I love it.

Don't get me wrong. Hey, you're not negotiating like an Indian. You let me handle this negotiation. All right, bro. Get us $250 for it, man. I'm going to get us that. All right, bet. Anyway, we love y'all.

We appreciate you. We see you over at Patreon. Patreon.com slash Flavor 2. We got a new episode every single week. It's the greatest bargain in the history of comedy we'll see you there peace god bless