Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - CDC Says Masks Are For Cucks

Episode Date: May 18, 2021

Welcome back to another great episode of Flagrant 2 - join Andrew, Akaash, AlexxMedia, Mark Gagnon and the Truffle as they discuss the complexities of this week's hot topics. INDULGE...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Big announcement! Big, big, big! Aggressive, feminist men. That's who we are. All this shit getting cut! What's up everybody? Welcome to Flaker 2. I'm going blind. This is a concern of mine. It's been a concern of mine for the last couple weeks. I haven't really spoken about it at all because i thought it would go back to normal yeah i blink i rub my eyes a lot it doesn't go back to normal like i'm looking at the topics that are on the tv right now yeah everything there is blurry yeah and you know the crazy thing is as i get closer
Starting point is 00:00:38 it doesn't stop being blurry and then i do one eye and i do the other eye blurry on both eyes and it's the type of blurry that's really weird. There's, like, multiple versions of the letters. So there's the letters I see, the main ones, then I see a little one behind it above and a little one behind it below. What? It's not even funny.
Starting point is 00:00:56 This is concerning. No, I might lose my fucking sight, dude. I think he just needs glasses. Am I crazy? No. I haven't needed glasses, so I don't know. You got to go with the LASIK. I got to go with LASIK, but I don't know if I can get LASIK for this.
Starting point is 00:01:08 So I haven't had vision issues. You have. You got glasses on right now. Is that just you need glasses? That's all I'm thinking. I'm dismissing this because I'm like- No, this is all just for show. Yeah, Alan doesn't need glasses.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I'm a frog. How does the one guy on the podcast that doesn't need glasses wear glasses? I'm not losing my vision, bro. No, you just need glasses. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Give glasses wear glasses? I'm not losing my vision, bro. No, you just need glasses. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. You want to see better? Give me them glasses.
Starting point is 00:01:31 You want to see better, son? Give me them glasses. Give me them glasses right now. Let's see. Holy shit. Hold on. Oh, you almost poked yourself in the eye. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Let's go. I'm not attracted to black women no more. That's crazy. This is crazy. The second I put on these bifocals, black women went to the waist up. They went bye. Bye.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Bye, bitch. Bye. Oh, my God, bro. This is crazy. Even looking at Mark, his ass is smaller. This is nuts. Shake him off. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Al, you got to stop using these glasses, bro. It's totally changing you. Maybe without these glasses we get back to normal Al. What's not normal Al? I'm just saying, 90s Al who appreciated the finer things. This is like a dignified, this is like a librarian Al. Real talk, this is, without these you appreciate the ebony, but you put these on and it's ivory all day, dog.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Look at this. Real, this is crazy. Those are like those colorblind glasses. Guys, there's a black guy in the room by the equipment. Is he stealing the equipment? I think he's trying to steal the equipment. Bro, we got to make that video out. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Oh, it's just Alex. It's just Alex Media. Bro, you got racist bifocals, dude. That's Alex with two X's. That's Alex with one X. This is Alex with one X. It's like the colorblind video Where you put on the kids
Starting point is 00:02:46 Yeah but I start crying Because there's minorities In the room They're taking over Oh we gotta give those To Miles No no Opposite Miles glasses
Starting point is 00:02:53 You put them on You only see one color That's white Exactly This is really scary I don't want to do this anymore I don't want Put them on backwards
Starting point is 00:03:01 I don't Oh look Wait like that You can't do it like that That's how the bank people't do it like that. That's how the bank people would do it. Like upside down? What happens if I put them on upside down?
Starting point is 00:03:12 Oh, guys. I don't know, but like I don't know why, but I think I'm starting to feel like beating up reanimation people. Am I turning black? Am I turning black? Is that me? Am I turning black?
Starting point is 00:03:26 You might be black now. You be good with the Asians. You good with the Asians? We good. You guys watching? All right. Asians about this close to being like, ah, it's just black people beating us up.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Can y'all stop? Can y'all? I mean, we was trying to identify with y'all, okay? We understood what it was to be victims, but y'all won't stop beating us up at the fucking bus stop. Sorry about the corner stores. I didn't know you were going to take it that far. Sorry we followed y'all around. Sorry, but y'all won't stop beating us up at the fucking bus stop. Sorry about the corner stores. I didn't know you were going to take it that far. Sorry we followed y'all around.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Sorry we followed y'all around. As if we could catch y'all anyway. Y'all get there too fast. As if we got time to set up the stores. Wait a minute. Oh, shit. All right. That was scary right there.
Starting point is 00:04:01 That was fucking terrible. Dude. Whoa. Bro. Almost blacked out. That was bad. there You almost blacked out That was fucking Dude Bro Almost blacked out Dude Honestly I wouldn't try those on bro I wouldn't try those on
Starting point is 00:04:12 If I were you Al you got racist bifocals I mean I need to Oh you know who invented bifocals Who Scottish people Hitler I think
Starting point is 00:04:20 No Hitler did invent bifocals Ben Franklin I'm pretty sure Ben Franklin invented bifocals And there was also monofocal. I'm all about the Benjamins, baby. Let's go. Second he put them back on, he found the whitest rap bar.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I am all about the Benjamins, baby. Hi, my name is... All right, man. So what are you going to do? What are you going to do now that you're blind? I don't know. Once we go back to New York, I'm going to go get my eyes checked. This happened to me once before.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And I think some bitch said I had astigmatism or something like that. That's what I was thinking. But I went to a ghetto ass eye place. It was in the back of a sunglasses hut. You know what I mean? And then they just put your face... That does sound pretty black, to be honest. It was pretty black. You went to a hut, bro. You went to a hut. You literally of a sunglasses hut. You know what I mean? And then they just put your face. That does sound pretty black, to be honest. It was pretty black.
Starting point is 00:05:06 You went to a hut, bro. You went to a hut. I went to a hut. I was in an actual hut. You saw a witch doctor. But it wasn't good. It wasn't good at all. So I went to the back.
Starting point is 00:05:14 They put you on that machine that looks like the submarine thing. Yeah. You looking through the Empire State Building shit. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And then she was like. Did you have to put quarters in it to make it work?
Starting point is 00:05:24 I did. That's how ghetto it was. She was like, if you want to see, you have to put some change in this shit. I was like put quarters in it to make it work i did that's how ghetto it was she was like if you want to see you have to put some change in this shit i was like all right bitch and then um i went they they try to sell you sunglasses i can't trust her yeah like their business is selling the glasses yeah so i'm like i don't trust and i went to just a straight up you know eye doctor right jewish you know what i mean like this is way before everybody we hated jews you know what i mean like don't judge me this is this is wow years ago you went bc times bro how'd you get a time machine but you can't fix your eyes this is before year zero ain't that crazy how'd you do that
Starting point is 00:06:02 so they were they were hating him a little bit Not as much as This is before the Hadids This is before Bella and Gigi Started getting real opinionated About what's going on openly Right? So
Starting point is 00:06:13 I went And the dude was like Nah bro You're just looking at your phone too much And it's causing your eyes to blur So you need to not look at your phone that much And start looking at shit far away That's why you turned that shit sideways
Starting point is 00:06:23 I bet Damn right You were like Yo let me look a little less bang that was good i got it i got it fucking good dog you think it's the same issue you think you're looking at your phone too much i think so like i'll look at like how many hours a day i spent on my phone you know and uh steve whatever his name not steve jobs what's the gay guy's name tim cook tim cook yeah what tim cook want to tell you how much of a degenerate you are piece of shit shit. He's like, I know I'm on my phone, motherfucker. I don't need to know the exact hours.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And it will be like, you're down 14%. You're only on your phone eight hours a day. I'm like, holy shit. All right, let me chill with this stuff. So you might see me with the old man font coming up. So you're not going to get off your phone? I'm not off my phone. I just got to find a way to look at the phone. I to get some glasses so here's the thing y'all got mad
Starting point is 00:07:07 concerned when he said i think i'm going blind and i was like hold on let's hear the andrew actual what's happening i mean he needs glasses i need glasses ain't that going blind you don't need glasses you see better you guys are all oh i'm concerned get glasses it's not a big deal go to lens crafters no it's not a disease if you go to lens crafters you can't go to lens crafters bro they they want to sell you glasses it's a hustle motherfucker god wants to sell you glasses lens crafters is god yeah i guess that is a good point all right well fuck it um i don't know what if this is god what if this is god maybe we've spoken about this on a podcast before but what if this is god we mean like what if be blind yeah you're supposed to lose your vision a little bit you know what i mean like i already think my girl's amazingly beautiful right now so imagine how much
Starting point is 00:07:57 more if i can't see her that good do you know what i mean like you know you know what i'm saying like if you're already this incredibly beautiful right and i start getting fuzzy around the edges i'm not gonna notice you getting old it's like god god's jumping in before i can see wrinkles or any of that kind of shit god's gonna take your vision to keep you from getting a divorce there we go god's like oh you think she's fine now huh wait up keep your vision and half your money got you i'm rich yeah i'm rich in all aspects of life because the guy god don't want me to see shit but everyone's getting lasik and what happens well then you gotta get botox i told her i told my girl i was like if i get these motherfuckers fixed we all gotta get some shit fixed i'm gonna get rid of my crow's feet unless your you know vision goes what if i get some what if i get some bifocals that
Starting point is 00:08:45 make my girl see me shittier oh what if her vision's too pristine she's looking at me like oh you're aging you got you know freckles all this shit like the sun spots you gotta let your wife's vision go if you what is this 2020 you gotta let her vision go rather both going blind or both in preserve that's it yeah we have to make a choice every relationship you have to make a choice do we get talks do we start going under the knife do we keep this shit going or do we drop that vision to 60 20 and say fucking on the highway like that's really what it's about yes or no you're right just get a tesla though get a tesla drives for yourself you're good that's perfect you got
Starting point is 00:09:21 your eyes fixed yeah you happier or sadder a little sadder a little sadder bro that's why i miss it so much i gotta wear fake glasses the reason he's in the white girls those were the only ones he could see at night they're glowing they literally glow he couldn't see any women but the whites it was like oh there's one yeah i can fit okay i got that one and then he goes and gets it. This is practical. I think this is practical. I think this is God intervening, trying to make us happy, trying to add some level of consistency to our life as things change.
Starting point is 00:09:59 It is interesting the divorce rate has gone up as vision has gotten better over time. I bet the first divorce is right after bifocals. Why do you think they only had one focal? Remember the... Oh, the monocle. This one was for your wife, and this one's for Reed. Exactly. That's why the pirates had the pets, so I got to look at this bitch every time. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I'm going to save this one. I'm going to save this one for my wife. Yeah. Or no, I'm going to save this one for the sea. Whatever the fuck it is. A pirate? What? You're talking about pirates in Mr. Monopoly.
Starting point is 00:10:22 No, pirates. No, pirates had the pets. I thought you were talking about monocles. No, first monocles, but then also pirates. You're talking about pirates in Mr. Monopoly. No, pirates. I thought you were talking about monocles. No, first monocles, but then also pirates. You're out in the sea. Come on, Mark. Come on. We're talking about a lot of one-eyed motherfuckers out here.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Cyclops? Cyclops is gay. You know what I mean? Like, those motherfuckers love dicks. You know? They really did. You know, imagine how easy it is to take out a cyclops. You just poke that big motherfucker in the eye,
Starting point is 00:10:46 and then run away. There's nothing he could do, dawg. Of course not that. Nothing he could do. Throw some sand in his eye. Yeah, he's got no depth perception either. Oh, dummy, he got no depth perception? No depth perception.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Any stooge, three stooges can take you out. Bah. That's it. Yeah. What you mean depth? That word is hard, bro. That's a tough word. When you say it like that, it sounds so smart.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Say it. Say it. Depth. Depth. Perception. Perception. Depth. Perception.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Bro, depth. You sound actually a little bit retarded when you say it. If Johnny Depth's name was Johnny Depth, he never makes it. We don't even know what Pirates of the Caribbean is if Johnny Depth is Johnny Depth. You're right. You're right. You're right. Real talk. Depp, that word, it's impossible to say that word and then, I mean, for lack of a better word, not think that you're retarded fundamentally.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Yeah. No. Fundamentally retarded. No. Also, yo, can we talk about this really quick? What? The fact that you didn't know what Down syndrome was come on asperger's okay this is a serious conversation all right no no ask the people at home first i think yeah we should
Starting point is 00:11:50 ask the people first see the results last episode we talked about this and everyone was like oh yeah you're being so silly that's such a goofy thing and then this weekend we're doing the show and he's trying to do a joke about it and it's like it's like hidden but like the audience is like not positive what's the joke what's he saying he's just talking about a joke about it. And it's like, it's like hidden, but like the audience is like not positive. What's the joke? What's he saying? He's just talking about. I didn't know that Down syndrome,
Starting point is 00:12:09 those people were called retards, retards. I thought Down syndrome people are Down syndrome. We call them cousins because they all look similar. When I was younger, you just called him a cousin, right? So I thought. I still think he's joking about it. I'm not. We call them, you just called them the cousins, right? So I thought... I still think he's joking about it. I'm not. We called them the cousins.
Starting point is 00:12:29 That's the cousins, right? And we... I thought they were their own thing. Like, I would never call... That's the least racist term. You say they all look the same about cousins? That's actually... They look cousin-ish.
Starting point is 00:12:40 You could have gone way more racist if they all looked the same. They look cousin-ish. It gets worse. So I thought they were the cousins. I would never call one of them retarded. That's cruel. They all look the same. They look cousin-ish. It gets worse. So I thought they were the cousins. I would never call one of them retarded. That's cruel. They're sweet little kids, you know, always smiling, laughing, happy.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Loving life. Right. So when Elon Musk came out as retarded or on the spectrum of retarded, I was like, this is fucked up. Like, you can't be this successful and call yourself retarded. And then everybody's like looking at me like, I'm like, why are you? And something about Mary, what did you think that kid was? What is the kid? Was he a cousin?
Starting point is 00:13:07 Was he a cousin or no? Did he look like a cousin? Was he literally played by a cousin? No, but he played a cousin. Have you seen my baseball? You remember that guy? But he's not a cousin. I need to see a picture of him. They have a similar look.
Starting point is 00:13:24 If you don't acknowledge that they have a similar look. If you don't acknowledge that they have a similar look, if you don't acknowledge they have a similar look, then you're not, I have bad vision. I can see they all look similar. So if the actor,
Starting point is 00:13:37 because there are actors that are part of the cousins, but they are able, they're high functioning enough to like play roles. And then there are actors that are not part of the cousins, but they sound like're high functioning enough to like play roles and then they're actors that are not part of the cousins but they sound like the cousins like the guy from breaking bad that's not a cousin dude that's shane gillis that's shane shane that's shane's first major breakthrough like before snl he played a cousin on on something
Starting point is 00:14:00 about mary but that's not a cousin do you guys understand what i'm saying or no so it's crazy because he this is he's being honest i would i i think if you call if you call a cousin retarded you are cruel bro that's cruel bro that's cruel but if you call someone who looks just like you dresses just like you you think they're you and then they're just doing some wild shit out of nowhere and if you're and you're like yo is he retarded though like like genuine like you're not trying to insult them you're like yo is is your man's retarded like you know what i'm saying like if it's a serious question like yo is your man's retarded then then that's fine i don't think that's offensive because you're trying to understand why he's not acting regular, why he's acting retarded.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And maybe the answer is he's fucking retarded. I don't even get why Mark's laughing. Like, this all makes sense. Yes. I'm so confused. You might have a short bus in school. We did. We did.
Starting point is 00:14:59 But they were my friends. I had friends on that bus. I had friends. Laurent from the Jerk Your Meat. He was retarded, bro. He was a little retarded, bro. Like, I had a friend, Laurent, from the Jerk Your Meat. He was retarded, bro. He was a little retarded, bro. He had a class. He had a short bus. He was in a special class.
Starting point is 00:15:13 They removed him from our class. There was too much information for him or something. And he would go, he would talk to a counselor. You called those kids special and we called them also retarded.
Starting point is 00:15:24 No, we didn't call them special we call them dumb that's a dumb he wasn't dumb they're not dumb they're not dumb they're just retarded this is different dumb is you have everything that we have and then you can't you know put some intelligence out there in the world some people are retarded if you're dyslexic, you're retarded. Right? Like dyslexia is just- It's just the lower level of retard. Exactly. If you're dyslexic, you can't read. You can't read. That's retarded, right? There's levels to it.
Starting point is 00:15:53 There's levels to shit. If you're, if you got, if you have like a web fingers, that's retarded. Right? Like there's a little thing, you pigeon toed. Boom. One eye's a little weird. If you're cockeyed, you're retarded. We would call that retarded. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Those are more physical retardations. We were using one word for a large group of people. That's what people did back in the day. We didn't understand all these little things. Do you look normal and then you act a little weird? That's retarded, right? That's just what it is, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:23 We had a Russian kid that didn't put on deodorant. We thought he was retarded for three's just what it is bro yeah we had a russian kid that didn't put on deodorant we thought he was retarded for three months mark we thought it was three months this kid this kid henry we didn't know we he didn't speak english and he didn't wear deodorant so we're like okay he's fucking retarded and then he learned english and then he we told him to put on deodorant and he was the smartest most normal kid he ended up working for a bank we thought he was a retard you can get your working way out of retarded. Retard is just a word that we used when we didn't understand you. Is that
Starting point is 00:16:52 fair? Is that fair to say? It's accurate. Son, that's just what people did back in the day. All New Yorkers would agree with you. Is this actually how it was in school? I'm actually underplaying it a little bit. It would be a little bit more. It would be a little bit more. We went to little bit more we went to public school bro they throw 1200 kids in fucking
Starting point is 00:17:09 two grades i just got to make sense of the world there was more retards than normals in the class there was so many that slipped by retards actually now that i think about it had to be so many slipped by i would have a kid he would just go to the bathroom whenever he wanted he didn't ask the teacher he'd just get up in the middle of class and he'd just start walking the bathroom and the teacher was like uh samuel where are you going where are you going he goes uh i'm going to the bathroom and she's like you didn't ask permission he just walked out the door and within like two months of doing that he just didn't have to ask permission to walk out of the classroom wait can you tell everybody else at the special kid or whatever you called him the cousin that was he wasn't a cousin what part of what don't you understand he was yeah what part of uh what part of uh no what is it
Starting point is 00:17:49 what a part of no story i've told about patreon once what was it what part of no no talking oh no no what part of be quiet oh yeah what yeah what we had a kid that was not a cousin okay now i understand that as being on the spectrum in the in the moment i didn't understand that okay but now i understand as being on this but he was definitely on the spectrum he was an artist yeah so so he would have his different things he couldn't go outside he could if it was dark he couldn't do any you know he'd freak out in the dark and he would he would if you turned off the lights the kid would run right through all the all the desks he would he wouldn't move his desk out of his way he would he would slide his chair back and then start running straight it was
Starting point is 00:18:29 like it was a video game character you ever seen a video game character like run into a wall and just keep on running into the wall he would do that to desks dude like boom like just run through the desk it was unbelievable plow straight through right and if you turned out the lights so like anytime a teacher wanted to do like a cool experiment or something like that they want to heighten the tension they didn't realize that he had this like dark thing we all did but we didn't say anything so like the teacher would turn off the lights and then the fucking kid would start plowing through the class like a wilder beast bro there was and it was scared the shit out of the teacher dude like
Starting point is 00:19:02 sometimes you have a substitute they roll roll in the TV, right? They're like, yeah, we're just going to watch a movie during class. And all of us are sitting there like, oh, we are going to watch a movie. This is a fun one. We're watching Lion King, bro. Mufasa's not making it out of this one. So he would just run through the whole thing. We didn't understand there was a spectrum because the kid was really fucking smart.
Starting point is 00:19:23 But he was also, you know, in the dark, he would run, so musky yeah it was a little wild it was a little wild so um yeah so wait oh yeah so one day he just kept doing shit in class i forget what he was doing but he just kept talking out and this teacher goes uh he goes uh what what part of be quiet do you not understand this motherfucker took one beat and just went, the B. It's so good. What a good answer. This teacher was perplexed, bro. This bitch got stopped in her tracks.
Starting point is 00:20:02 He stopped this bitch in her tracks, bro. Because she was looking at him. And again, this was a different time, but she was looking at him as if he was retarded. So she wasn't expecting such a witty, quick response. And then obviously now we understand that he wasn't retarded. He just had his little things. So boom, hits her back with that. And then she just could say nothing. She just sat there.
Starting point is 00:20:22 She was fucking silent. She would be quiet. You. That's all what he should have said. Be quiet. You the b real quick she understood the fuck out of that b oh it's such a good answer dude so that's what i'm saying like people they don't have any understanding for us what we went through is like we were in school nobody gave us any information about mental illness or anything they didn't invent all these terms they just put a helmet on a kid and sat him in advanced algebra. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:46 You didn't know one kid with autism? I knew many now that I think of it. But I didn't know that they had autism. How old were you when you heard the word autism? Autism is in cousins. Autism is you and me. They look just like you and me. You were at Starbucks or online, you would never know.
Starting point is 00:21:03 They call out the order and they do a backflip in the middle of the fucking Starbucks. That's autism, right? That's different. That is not. Yo, it's not. It's. Oh, God. That thing's going to fall.
Starting point is 00:21:19 That thing's going to fall. No, no, no. Go, go, go. Fuck you. You got to pull your side out a little bit more Akash and then lean it back. Good. Yeah. Now lean it back. So did you not understand why people were, were trying to take the word retard out of out of vocabulary if now that i know that they were calling the cousins retards i'm like jesus what's wrong with people all right guys we'll take a break for a second because some of y'all are stressed and
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Starting point is 00:24:55 venues, Al. Big! Big! Big! Big stepper! Big! Big! Big stepper. Big. Big.
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Starting point is 00:25:42 Dandrewshows.com Get those fucking tickets Friday Friday 10 a.com. Get those fucking tickets Friday. Friday, 10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. All the cities that we're going to, I'm going to tell you real quick. Obviously, we still got some shows left as we prepare for the tour. But August 13th, Dallas, Texas, baby. The 14th, Houston, Texas.
Starting point is 00:26:03 The 18th, Tucson, Arizona. The 20th and 21st, Los Angeles, California. This is big news. I was going to film my special there in Los Angeles, California. Two pieces of news right here. Some good news, some bad news. Some bad news, I'm not filming the special in Los Angeles, California because I can't trust your fucking government to keep places open. I can't trust them to not do masks. I can't trust them to not limit occupancy. I cannot trust that they're going to actually be open. If we don't book a venue now, then we won't be able to film this special until the next year.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And it's going to be too crazy. So we had to move the special out of California because of your fucked all of a governor, Gavin Newsom, blame it on him. I'm very upset, but the good news is that's more seats for our shows there. We're still coming, baby. We're still coming to do it. So more seats available. Those'm very upset. But the good news is, that's more seats for our shows there. We're still coming, baby.
Starting point is 00:26:45 We're still coming to do it. So, more seats available. Those are sold out. Now we're adding more seats. Go get those as well. Oklahoma City, Detroit, Michigan, Milwaukee, San Diego, Austin. That's where we're filming the special. Louisville, Kentucky,
Starting point is 00:27:02 Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Indianapolis, Washington, D.C., Madison, Chicago, Cincinnati, Philadelphia Indianapolis, Washington, D.C. Madison, Chicago, Minneapolis Fargo and Boston For New Year's Go there, go get the tickets right now Yeah, the Austin shows We're gonna film the special there
Starting point is 00:27:15 That's gonna be fucking wild So pull up to that God bless you, we love you, we appreciate you And go get those tickets right now Okay? Big tour, the infamous tour we out here baby okay schultzy mark gagnon i think akash gonna pull up to some dates we're gonna have some extra you know we're gonna have some special guests we'll talk to you about alex media gonna be there the truffle we're gonna we're gonna get We're going to get him there if he hasn't left us, if he hasn't gone back to Israel to fight in the incoming holy war.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yeah, it's going to be wild, man. It might be some musical guests. You never know what could happen. That's all I'm saying. You never know what the fuck could happen at the Infamous Tour. I'm so excited to get back to these big fucking venues, have people rammed up against one another, yelling, screaming's just gonna be just glorious yeah right as the country opens up it's gonna be a wild fucking summer yeah and i'm excited to be on tour with y'all and have you all
Starting point is 00:28:18 come out bring your friends bring the homies ladies bring the ladies out couples i mean let's just fucking do this. We all want to party. We all want to get back into it. And yeah, I can't even say anything else. I can't let anything else out. But it's going to be fun. Put it that way.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Pack it to the gills. Let's do it. Let's pack it. Okay, I meant to say that in the beginning, but then we got a little bit derailed. I'm in Miami Wednesday, tomorrow. Oh, shit. Thursday, two days after this comes yeah, with the mesh, right? All right, listen, man.
Starting point is 00:28:52 If we're doing announcements. Announcement. Hey, something was filmed at WTF Studios this past. What film? What was filmed? Oh, no, just a lot of podcasts and some discussions and stuff like that. Yeah, discussion talks. But yeah, if you want to film your podcast at WTF Media Studios, go to WTFMediaStudios.com.
Starting point is 00:29:13 What else we got? CDC drops a mask mandate. We kind of knew it. It's like a fake mask mandate drop, right? Actually, you know what? This is interesting. The CDC drops the mask mandate. And I will say this. For people for vaccinated people it has completely changed my behavior yeah
Starting point is 00:29:31 you're more brazen now right way in the airport no mask really and then you just go oh i thought i thought uh we didn't have to wear a mask and we're vaccinated like you have an excuse when you get stopped for not wearing the mask and then you you're not a Karen. You're like, I'm doing what the CDC said. Did you get caught? I got asked. I think in Florida, they're going to let you rock. Some places, yeah. Some places, they just cut it out immediately.
Starting point is 00:29:55 The airports are federal. They're still under mask mandates. Who's not under a mask mandate? Well, any private business is allowed to have a mask mandate. You have to respect the private business. But statewide, are there any states that are like, no, we you're not on mic yeah i think california still has like their state mask mandate right for everyone pretty much yeah so the cdc thing is just a suggestion the cdc doesn't make laws or guidelines or anything they just tell governments hey you guys maybe should have mask mandates. That's what they did in the beginning. And the government's responded.
Starting point is 00:30:27 And now the CDC is like, yo, we don't think you should have mask mandate if you're vaccinated. And now the dominoes are going to fall depending on the suggestion of the CDC. But they actually don't make any laws. And there are like states like California or like federal, any federal building is still under a mask mandate. So that's where it's all going to be. But now the private businesses sort of have a reason why they might stop doing the mask thing because the CDC said it. And then the OSHA, who is in charge of a lot of businesses
Starting point is 00:30:54 and things like that, will slowly lax their thing and then businesses will allow it to happen if they're sort of a larger corporation. But small businesses can or cannot have mask mandates if they want them to. Yeah. I almost bro that was long bro i i thought i was the only one i was versus a dove i thought i was the only one who was like i stopped listening so early into this jesus miles my eyes started to glaze over miles what the fuck just happened right there like andrew miles what happened just right there dog i thought the cdc was federal what is the cdc it's just they make suggestions they don't pass laws so what the fuck they've been talking about this whole time i
Starting point is 00:31:38 thought whatever they say we do but that's the thing biden came out and said you don't have to wear masks biden said i don't have to wear a mask it's a federal thing yes out and said you don't have to wear masks. Biden said I don't have to wear a mask. It's a federal thing. Yes. Biden said I don't have to wear a mask. But he didn't drop the federal mask mandate. And most states already didn't have a statewide mask mandate. Yeah. It was suggested and people just went along with it. How about this? If you're a private business,
Starting point is 00:31:59 unless the private business says wear a mask, then do it or don't go in there. I'm not doing it. That's what's going to cost me. I'm not doing it until they ask me to put it on, then I will. Every time I go to Uber right now, I let them know. What a stand. Say what? I take a real stand, bro. I'm not doing it that's what's gonna cost i'm not doing until they ask me to put it on then i will every time i go to uber right now i let them know i'm not doing it i'm not i'm not doing it until you ask me and then i'll comply immediately but i'm not doing it but uh when i go into ubers right now i go yo by the way if you don't want to wear a mask it's all good i'm vaccinated i never say that they don't have to and i'm willing to but I just throw it out there every single Uber driver is vaccinated so they're just like oh thank god blah blah blah
Starting point is 00:32:27 so this shit is about to be over dude once you got the vaccine the masks are seeming so like fucking stupid I just hate it after that it's so stupid it's just like a muzzle like get the shit off of me dude it's stupid are you guys aren't vaccinated you're not vaccinated no Mark
Starting point is 00:32:43 you're not vaccinated you getting vaxxed yet. You're not vaxxed yet? No. Mark, you're not vaxxed yet? You getting vaxxed? Only if I'm forced. Yeah. What if it just makes everything easier, travel-wise? It's no different for me right now. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I'll do it once it becomes inconvenient. Yeah. The only reason I'm doing it is because I want to travel. Yeah, but they haven't had any restrictions on people not vaxxed yet. So right now. I thought they're opening it up to non-vaxxed. I thought that was the issue like opening up travel to oh people who are vaxxed yeah i think that's coming yeah i don't know when that comes i'll get it because right now like most places you just walk right in you don't but that's the thing it takes a month total that's why i got out of the
Starting point is 00:33:20 way because it was like the second i'm gonna want to travel now i gotta wait a month yeah well i don't suggest this to anybody but i might photoshop something they don't have a database so it's like all right i mean he did survive the worst corona out of all of us mark got it twice but he got the worst case yeah all right guys we're gonna take a break for the show because uh with today's low interest rates it is a great time to refinance your student loans, okay? It's time to break out of the student debt cycle. Earnest can help you by refinancing those fucking student loans that are killing you right now. Earnest offers low-rate student loan refinancing, and you can check your rate risk-free in just two minutes. With Earnest, you get radically flexible payments, and you can pick your loan term.
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Starting point is 00:34:40 What else we got? Did we talk about J. Cole already? The Prince Harry thing. Did you see the J. Cole video? We're back to Prince Harry. This guy is stupid. We're going to get to the Prince Harry thing, but did you see the J. Cole video?
Starting point is 00:34:52 Yeah, him hitting a free throw? Yeah. Do you want to talk about that? Yeah, we can if you guys want. I mean, it's cool. All right. So we got J. Cole playing African basketball or whatever. J. Cole had a week, huh?
Starting point is 00:35:02 Playing African basketball. Yeah, he's playing African. He's in Rwanda, bro. I know. It's funny. He's playing African basketball. Isn? J. Cole had a week, huh? Playing African basketball. Yeah, he's playing African, but he's in Rwanda, bro. No, I know. It's funny. He's playing African basketball. Isn't it all? Isn't it all African basketball
Starting point is 00:35:11 at the end of the day? Yeah, I guess it is. But you say European basketball, people go, oh, yeah, man, it's European basketball. It's different. Why is African basketball
Starting point is 00:35:19 worse than European basketball? Nah, they usually say it's playing overseas. I never heard somebody say European basketball. Yeah, I've never heard anybody say playing African basketball. Huh?
Starting point is 00:35:27 EuroLeague. He's playing in Europe, but it's never called European basketball. Yeah. No, it's not. EuroLeague. You're not getting this one. It's never called that. Chinese basketball, they're playing Chinese basketball.
Starting point is 00:35:37 It sounds like a different game. Right? It sounds like a way more fun game. Yeah, it's like if somebody's playing checkers in China, they're not playing Chinese checkers. Unless they are playing Chinese checkers. Then that'd be a different game. I don't know which game he's playing. I only saw a small excerpt, so he could be playing African
Starting point is 00:35:50 basketball. No, he was playing regular basketball with Africans. This guy's trying to hot-couch the situation. Let's go. Get yourself out of this shit. Get yourself out of this shit. The rules are easy. Which are? Score in the hoop.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Avoid the mosquitoes. Score in the hoop. Yeah. Score, score. Avoid the mosquitoes. Score in the hoop. Yeah, exactly. Now the nets. Are those malaria nets? Did you know?
Starting point is 00:36:12 Bill Gates gave them. What a waste of nets. Dude, what a monumental waste of nets. The African basketball league. Truly. Put those nets to good use. Protect the people. Oh, talking about Gates.
Starting point is 00:36:21 What about the Melinda Gates smear campaign Continues on Bill This bitch is rotten This bitch is rotten Is she rotten for him just like cheating relentlessly He didn't cheat relentlessly He asked a couple hoes out over email They said no he was like alright fine He legit asked him out once they said no
Starting point is 00:36:40 And then he didn't ask again And what if they're business meetings And that's how you met him But you're not supposed to Yeah I guess maybe he's a different he comes a different generation where you could fuck your employees that's what that's how she got along yeah exactly she was an employee that's another thing she got to realize apparently she was upset that there wasn't like equality in their relationship bitch and it's like yeah he saw you as like you know his employee and then you became his wife and he was like oh we're gonna
Starting point is 00:37:03 keep that bitch he's the richest man in the world yeah you want equality marry a fucking uh supervisor at staples yeah yeah yeah you're not getting equality from the richest man actually she's just not strong enough because because megan markle flipped that shit megan markle was opening up boxes on that show what's that show called open guess the box greatest come up no deal or no deal yeah what's in the deal or no deal what's in the box deal or no yeah yeah what's that that's seven what's seven with uh brad pitt what's oh fuck yeah i believe he was lit the wife's head yeah i've never seen it yeah yeah i know you never said i would love that movie actually it's absolutely amazing uh and then brad pitch is cursing. No, fuck. No, fuck.
Starting point is 00:37:45 There's an alternate ending on YouTube. That whole scene plays out. And then he goes, well, it's in the box. And Morgan Freeman looks at the box and looks up. And then you just hear the Kirby Enthusiasm credits. And it's so fucking funny. That's great. But yeah, that's what she did.
Starting point is 00:38:00 She used to open boxes. Yeah. Right? Like people would say like 250 and maybe they guessed her box and then she would open her box and that was her job. That's the greatest come up ever. Yeah, that was her job. And then she married the Prince of England.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah. Right? Well, she became a fake lawyer. Oh, yeah. Then she became the fake lawyer. She got married, got divorced. She got married to another person? She was married before.
Starting point is 00:38:22 To whom? A manager named Trevor Engelson. Do you know him? Yes, I do. My old manager was cool with him. And then that's just such a funny flip that they were divorced and he was like out there getting it thinking he's just fucking living his best life. And she married fucking royalty.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yep. But he also traded up. Oh, what'd he get? He got some super rich woman. Really? So they both did it? Say the name. Say the name. Say the name.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Yeah, drop it. You can't drop it? All right, fine. I don't like him. I don't know. What's you guys feeling on Megan? I feel about her exactly how I feel about the manager guy. Which is?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Yeah, they traded up. They traded up. That's what they did. They traded up, dude. She's boss. I don't know. I'm like, she's just unlikable as a person, but she's right about everything she says. Explain.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Just like the royal family sucks. Yeah. Just sucks. It's like useless. Does nothing. It's stupid. How unlikable is she? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:19 You're the only person I know who doesn't like it. Oh, have you guys heard her talk? She's a little unlikable. She's unlikable. I don't know. Comes across a little phony. I mean, like, yeah. Like Giud it. Oh, have you guys heard her talk? She's a little unlikable. She's a little unlikable. I don't know. Comes across a little phony. I mean, like, yeah. But like, giudente.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, I mean, you don't think so? I don't know. She's just kind of like too cute where it's like I don't really listen to her. Yeah, that's how you know she's really unlikable. Like, she's hot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:40 And she's still unlikable. Usually, if you're hot, it's like, okay, I can put up with all this. But even that, and then she's just kind of like annoying. But she's right about you're hot, it's like, okay, I can put up with all this. But even that, she's just kind of annoying. But she's right about everything. It's rare that you agree with somebody and you're annoyed by them. But yeah, she's right. The family sucks, dude.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Existing within that family, it sucks. Everybody in that family looks absolutely miserable. They're just parakeets, dude. That's all they are. They're just human parakeets. They're just inside the cage, and they must stay in the cage and act accordingly. Isn't it funny that as soon as he got to a country where you're allowed to say what you want, he was like, this is bunkers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:10 He put this shit to an end. He did. It's so true. That's the problem, actually. It's too much freedom of speech all of a sudden. Yeah. He just topped from everything is controlled to say whatever you want, and he's like, yo, this is wild. He didn't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I'm not ready for this. He jumped in the deep end. But it completely makes sense from his perspective. Like and he's like yo this wild he didn't know what i'm not ready for this he jumped in the deep end but it completely makes sense from his perspective like he's royalty yeah the idea of your citizens being able to say whatever they want about you yeah it's your position of power yeah perspective it's like this is crazy like my whole life in this ivory tower and people talk shit about me and it sucks and they spread lies and they ruin my life and it's the worst but he's never been the regular person who benefited from freedom of speech. Freedom of speech doesn't really benefit the elite. People in power.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yeah, it benefits the average person. It's used to empower the average person. Did we set up this topic? Because we tried it six times on Dax Shepard's podcast. Prince Harry said the First Amendment is bunkers. Those are his exact words. So that's what we're referring to right now. I don't understand why.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And this fucking enrages me but like i don't understand why he has an opinion about america like you just because he's allowed to because he's in america that and that's there's too much freedom for him he shouldn't have freedom of speech that's bonkers that's bonkers that you come to our house and then you walk around with your fucking shoes on and do whatever the hell you want to start telling me how what my glassware looks like and what the fucking paintings on the wall are and you start criticizing what's going on i understand that's our culture and everybody's allowed to do it but it fucking annoys me if you have such a big problem with it start there you start with you shut your mouth and then you just let us do our fucking thing because you seem to have no problem with freedom of speech when it's opinions about america right when it comes to opinions about
Starting point is 00:41:48 america yap yap yap yap yap yap yap you did get your mouth do an entire interview with oprah where you had freedom of speech away from your family and talk about how they're all trapped and how you feel sorry for them racist how your dad said racist shit to you you got to say all that and now all of a sudden that was that interview little bunkers that was bonkers yo check your shit bro anybody else watched that be like yo this shit is bunkers it was a little bonkers she's a little bunker check your fucking shit watch your mouth that's how i feel about him watch your mouth like you fled your country you bitch pussy you were too Bitch. Pussy. You are too pussy to stay in your... The newspapers are mean to me. Grandma.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Grandma. Control the papers. Control the papers, grandma. Even though they all have their Christmas party. You know they all have their Christmas party at Buckingham Palace, right? All them newspapers? Yeah. Oh, so we homies.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yeah. Oh, we homies. But then the newspapers say whatever the fuck you want. Get the fuck out of here, bro. You got the internet internet you get shit said about you all the fucking time nobody reads a newspaper who reads a fucking newspaper anymore you crying about the newspaper nobody reads a newspaper newspapers are online too right they don't say nothing they made charlie de melio does a tiktok about you then you gotta have a real fucking problem you know what i'm saying let's talk about the real places you want the smoke dog he wants to smoke he's coming here you're gonna get the smoke you pussy bro you fled
Starting point is 00:43:09 your fucking country because you couldn't hang you couldn't hang you went to santa barbara for the good life where no one gives a fuck about you these motherfuckers go out to dinner in santa barbara and they shut down the whole restaurant like they ain't people they're way more rich and they're broke asses they're rich people in santa barbara go to the restaurant they pull up and they're like oh i'm sorry it's closed for megan and uh the redhead and then they're like what the what the prince is not even going to be king dude like that's the type of arrogance that bothers people the prince is not even going to be king not even gonna be a prince not even gonna be prince the motherfucker ain't even a prince no more dog yeah
Starting point is 00:43:42 now would you have him on the pot in a second i haven't probably said but i tell him his face he's pussy you're pussy bro you ran if you stayed there and you're just like nah we're not part of the family anymore but we're living it up in london we're gonna have a dope ass pad me and my black ass wife are gonna walk around i don't give a fuck what y'all got to say about it. Fuck you to the family. Everybody suck my dick. Like if they just went NWA about it, like that'd be fire. Or just come here and don't immediately complain.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Or yeah, come here and say, thank you, sir. You address, every American you see, you address us as royalty, sir. And bow your head. Bow your fucking head when you talk to us. come in you're you're a
Starting point is 00:44:27 refugee bro you're a refugee we took we saved you off a boat okay you were floating here on a fucking boat for your life because you couldn't handle mean paper the papers are mean to me and now you're gonna talk some shit isn't that bro? The papers are talking shit. You couldn't handle it. And the second you get here, what are you doing? Talking shit. Talking that shit. Talking that shit from a distance. The papers there had freedom of press. That went wild on you. Now you got
Starting point is 00:44:56 freedom of speech as your own man. Yeah. Talk back. You're right about your family. Your family's trash. Your wife is right about your family. But you're still pussy. And. Your family's trash. Your wife is right about your family, but you're still pussy. And I'll be honest, yo, I mean, like, I know Megan was like, I'm feeling suicidal,
Starting point is 00:45:10 all this kind of shit like that. She also seemed like the type of girl that wants to smoke. Like, if he was like, yo, let's just get a flat and thug it out, maybe she'd be down to do that. Yeah, I bet she would. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Megan, your husband's pussy. That's all I got to say about that. He's not. I hope you see him in person one day, too. We're going to talk. We're going to talk in person. We're going to have a conversation in person. He's going to bow his head.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Kiss the ring. He's going to bow his head and say, thank you for your apology. Yeah, I know, right? Exactly. I might. I might invite him on a podcast. He lives right by your wedding venue. He's invited.
Starting point is 00:45:46 He's invited. He's invited. He's invited. We'll have him at the wedding. Real talk. Get a job here if you want a real job. Like, if you hate the royal family, stop living off it. Because he's like, oh, we don't accept their money anymore. But you're still making money as Prince Harry.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Get a job at Trader Joe's, bro. Be American. Be American. You want to be American? Get a regular fucking American job. Stop being the prince that's no longer the prince because you know what you're doing you're making money off of your family you're making money off the relationship to your family don't trash the family and make money off of it let's get prince william on this podcast fuck yes let's get prince
Starting point is 00:46:16 williams on this podcast hell that would be fire that's the one that's gonna be king bro that's king and he's next in line bro did all the kids that's not that one no that's prince andrew yeah tarnishing my name bro all right anyway next what else we got prince other andrew exactly all right chrissy tegan's out here getting canceled oh boy what's y'all think about this everybody hates that lady man you you're a little sanctimonious yeah like fucking good word a little sanctimonious i gotta pretend i know what that means i think i do but i don't know i don't know really either it's just a little sanctimony but like people hate her more than she's bad it is a little wild though do you know why she's getting canceled because she was like bullying that girl courtney stoddard a 16 year old she
Starting point is 00:47:03 was 25 26 at the time. Who was 25, 26? Chrissy Teigen. She's DMing this girl. Kill yourself. Like, honestly, if you message any 16 year old first, there should be a criminal investigation. If you're 25. I don't care gender.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Explain why the girl was. So this girl was on a reality show. I don't remember which one. She married a 51 year old when she was 16. I thought he was even older than that. I don't remember which one. She married a 51-year-old when she was 16. I thought he was even older than that. I think I read 51. Double check that link. Just a super rich guy.
Starting point is 00:47:31 She was like young, blonde. What? Oh, he's an actor. Does he need the dude from Lost? Oh, maybe. Look that up. But basically, she's like 16 years old. She marries the dude from Lost.
Starting point is 00:47:40 He's like 51 years old. There's a huge age discrepancy. She basically looks like a Barbie, like blonde girl, you know, super whatever. And everybody went at her, which is weird because now everybody would go at him. Everybody would be like, yo, look at this old man manipulating this fucking teenager. What the hell is going on? But everybody
Starting point is 00:47:56 shit on her. She's a gold digger. She's this, that, the other. She's a child. Her mom is a fucking monster to let it happen to me. Exactly. But her mom and the dude are the monsters. She's a 16 year old girl yeah and even saying like oh we have a different lens now because social media is not new to us yeah it's whatever i still don't think i'm talking to a 16 year old first for any reason yeah especially kill yourself yeah like that's wild yeah so so chrissy teigen is chrissy teigen
Starting point is 00:48:21 and her sorry kill yourself yes and uh because she doesn't like the fact that she's a gold digger and she's like making money, I guess, off of her body, which is literally what Chrissy Teigen did for a living, right? It's like Chrissy wasn't as a model gold digging off of one person, but that's what modeling is. Making money off your looks. Yeah, it's like, hey, objectify me. Say again?
Starting point is 00:48:40 She's also dealing no deal. Second greatest suitcase come up ever. Wait, was she dealing no deal? She was dealing no deal. Oh, I know. I thought she was Victoria's Secret deal or no deal second greatest suitcase come up ever wait was she deal or no deal deal or no deal oh my god i thought she was victoria's secret model or something i think deal or no deal to swimsuit model to john legend that's sure hey how we got some fucking eyes for talent bro america's got talent real talky that's why he's on it yeah but yeah so like for her to come out and just kind of shit all over this girl in that way is a little crazy because she's so woke and progressive on Twitter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And I think that's really why people are jumping down her throat because they're like, yo, you can't be out here saying that, you know, Trump is mean to women. And then you out here bullying this girl worse than Trump ever did. 16-year-old girl. It's a teenager, bro. Yeah. That's wild. And now if she was never so virtuous on was never so virtuous on twitter i don't think everybody gives a fuck but once you're virtuous on twitter and you like draw the line
Starting point is 00:49:30 the same definitely worse because of that yeah and uh i wanted to defend her because i think you know the girl lost a kid whatever like i think all of a sudden we're ganging up on her now and it's like but this is even if she wasn't that i'd'd be like, that's a little wild, your message in a 16-year-old out of the blue. This is a child, yo. Grow up. You don't need to do that. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, I realize if you hate Trump a lot, if you're an actor, it's probably because
Starting point is 00:49:53 you got a little Trump in you. Ooh. You hate what you are. You know, because they do the same shit with super homophobic people. Oh, you're gay. Oh, you must be gay. You hate homophobic. You're so homophobic, you must be gay.
Starting point is 00:50:03 If you're that Trump-phobic, you're a little Trump. Yeah. You're so homophobic. You must be gay. If you're that Trump phobic, you're a little Trump. Yeah. You're a little bit Trump. That's funny. I'm not saying you got to love the guy at all. But if you hate him that violently, you're a little Trump. That's funny. Like you see himself in you.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Because you know what? That's why you hate it. You know what I would call messaging a 16 year old to kill herself? What is that? Deplorable. That's deplorable. I would say that's deplorable behavior. That's deplorable behavior. Take a dirt nap. That's a deplorable thing would say that's deplorable behavior deplorable behavior
Starting point is 00:50:25 take a dirt nap that's a deplorable thing she said that to take a dirt she tweeted that at her and then i think she dm'd multiple times about how she should die why are you so angry at that i don't know why are you angry that this girl manipulated yeah she's not she didn't have to be feminist like us like we're big feminists like progressive feminist men. That's who we are. Yeah. She don't have to be that, but that's crazy. Yeah. You know what she said to that teen mom?
Starting point is 00:50:50 Remember Farrah Abraham? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Became a porn star? Yeah, girl. Wild. She goes, Farrah Abraham now thinks she's pregnant from her sex tape. In other news, you're a whore and everyone hates you. Whoops, not other news.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Sorry. Wild. That's the thing. If you make an unlivable constitution, it's going to eventually, like lot you know i mean like you can't make this these judgments and not have any sympathy for people yeah that you can't live up to it's just unrealistic yeah i didn't understand what you said until the end but i think i got it now yeah an unlivable constitution a set of rules that you put on other people that you just know the way you're gonna ever live yeah Lock up anyone who does these things and then you immediately do them and you get locked up. Like you become a prisoner to your own fucking rules.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah, it's tricky. It's tricky. It's tricky. It's tricky. I wonder if she has that constitution or maybe people put that on her. What if she's just a wild girl?
Starting point is 00:51:43 She's like, you know, I just just go all feelings no facts in this shit and sometimes people agree with me and they try to position that as my identity but the reality is i'm a wild girl and i shit on 16 year olds for gold digging as well i think she mixes being a wild girl with being a little sanctimonious because that's how i always kind of knew her on twitter as kind of like virtuous but maybe i came in later i think she'd be having some funny clapbacks. I think she says funny things on Twitter. But again, there is a streak of righteousness to it all. Not to all of it, but in pockets, it's very like,
Starting point is 00:52:14 oh, I can't believe somebody would say such a thing and blah, blah, blah. This is awful and reprehensible. Yeah, that's the thing with righteousness is that your righteousness makes a lot of people feel like shit sometimes. And if you make me feel like shit, then I can't wait for your downfall. You know?
Starting point is 00:52:28 So it's like if righteousness is tied, I think that's the beauty of like being religious, especially Christian, is that like you get to be righteous but also say that you're a failure. Yeah. In your righteousness. Like it's baked into religion. It's like, yo, I'm going to fuck up. Just let you know I'm trying to do this shit but i'm a fuck up yeah and it's probably because there was an earlier iteration of the religion where it's like i'm perfect and people are like see no you're not yeah so then they upgraded and then when it happened like no no i'm a fuck up like oh yeah that's right we're all fuck
Starting point is 00:52:56 ups it's like there used to be sorry this is kind of not as related but you brought up like the way people used to talk i remember this old saying to air is human which it's not from the bible but it's like an old saying sure i feel like i stopped hearing that i used to hear that all the time to air is human and blah blah then something is divine forgiveness is divine whatever you don't hear that anymore ever now to air you're a piece of shit you shouldn't ever exist yeah fuck you you're canceled yeah and i think people are enjoying seeing chrissy teigen get canceled because it seems like something she would be okay with if it happened to other people. But overall, it's wild to cancel people. But fuck, man.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Messaging a 16-year-old is just nuts to me. This shit is just nuts. I'm sure I shit some wild shit in my day. But I can't imagine messaging a 16-year-old first. Yeah. I'm going to go to her profile and click message. Yeah. What'd she do?
Starting point is 00:53:44 Just married the dude i think so it clearly couldn't have been personal she didn't message chrissy teigen what if she ruined the ending for lost like what if she tweeted out the ending of lost and then like all these people were like fuck you bitch like i've dedicated 500 hours of my life to this show, and now it's completely ruined. Take a dirt nap. If somebody ruined Game of Thrones for me before it happened... I would have thanked them for saving me four years of my fucking life. I mean, I understand what you're saying, but also dirt nap.
Starting point is 00:54:17 But also dirt nap. Lost is the same. Dirt nap. Lost, apparently, people hated the finale. Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's right. It didn't really kind of wrap the show up.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Dirt nap sounds nice, though. I don't know. Dirt that's right. That's right. That's right. It didn't really kind of wrap the show up. Dirt nap sounds nice, though. I don't know. Dirt nap. Yeah. I'm a little tired, too. That's true. I could take a fucking dirt nap right now.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Think how tired you must be to just be like, hey, this looks nice. Yeah. All right. What else? One more, and then we get out of here. We could talk about Ellen's show, Leaving. Oh, we did it. We did it.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Did we kill Ellen, dude? I think if you beef with us. for the make Ellen take a dirt nap, I think if you, if you be for the flag or two podcasts, it's just not, it's not going to work out for you. It's not that good for you, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:52 It's not a long life attached to it. She said it wasn't a challenge anymore. What was it? What a fun thing to say. Yeah. Cause I'm sure the first 23 years are super tough. You walking out there and fucking dancing. That must've been so tough.
Starting point is 00:55:06 It wasn't a challenge anymore. What an odd, completely unselfaware reaction. Because if daytime talk shows are one thing, it's challenging. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if it is or it isn't, but like, that's not the reason you don't have a show anymore. Yeah. Right? The facade is over.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Like, people know that you're not nice. Yep. That you were playing a character. That's why the reason you don't have a show anymore. Yeah. Right? The facade is over. People know that you're not nice, that you were playing a character. That's why it's over. You didn't really make the decision. The people made the decision. If we're talking about challenges, isn't it kind of a challenge to take the ratings that are taking a nosedive and bring them back up? Isn't that a challenge? That's the challenge.
Starting point is 00:55:40 That's a challenge. So if you want a challenge, Ellen, here's one. Yeah. Lift your shit. Where is she doing? She's sinking right now. Wanting that show to tank this whole time. And now there finally is. that's a challenge so if you want to challenge ellen here's one yeah lift your shit where's she thinking right now wanting that show to tank this whole time and now that finally is she's like it's not a challenge this is this is what i've been waiting for i finally achieved it i finally did it like i did everything stupid possible i would just scare people every episode they kept
Starting point is 00:55:59 coming on every episode they come on i have someone jump out of a box and scare them they keep coming on the fucking thing i mean i make the people dance in the audience i dance with them stupid nothing changes i'm an asshole to everybody some guy was eating a tuna sandwich i told him go fuck himself i fired him i said nobody can eat tuna on the on the whole show you can't eat tuna everybody gets fired i was the worst boss ever the ratings kept going up up up up up and then finally flagrant two podcasts talks about it it goes viral and my dream has finally come true she's always wanted to show i mean she was mean to people and it kept doing better you're welcome ellen if you want to come on to the show you and prince harry let's have an episode absolutely come on the show we want you here in your deep eye sockets dude she got some deep fucking eyes bro
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Starting point is 00:59:31 speak openly and candidly about things uh first thing that we're going to do right now is not act like we know what the fuck is going on the history of this yeah like to really truly get i started diving deep into this a little bit i was talking talking to F.A., who's just really knowledgeable in this. And I know you're like, oh, he's going to be biased because he's Muslim. But he's like Turkish Muslim. Like, you don't fuck with Arabs, you know, and they don't. They don't fuck with them. They really don't.
Starting point is 00:59:56 So they're like, but he's been bringing it down. Obviously, I've been talking to Dove. Dove is definitely biased towards the, you know, Israeli side. And it's just the point is anybody speaking right now, including the Hadids, and the Hadids are Palestinian. I'm sure that's why it's so important to them. But everybody's going to have a biased take on it. And depending on how you feel about the instance is really where you start the historical record. right? So if you are Israeli or Jewish, you sympathize with the Israeli side, you're going to start it wherever it makes sense for them.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And if you're Palestinian, you're going to start it wherever it makes sense for them. And then everything after that is, well, they did this, so we got them back, et cetera. This thing literally goes back thousands. Well, yeah, thousands of years if you want to do that. But within modern history, you're going back hundreds of fucking years, okay?
Starting point is 01:00:44 And obviously you can trace it all back to fucking britain because they cause all the world's problems that we're still dealing with today yeah so this goes back so fucking far i don't even know if we like should go through any historical record do you like is that interesting to anybody to like go through some of the history like some of it maybe yeah hit the points do you want it because i know it's okay i'll give you Cliff's Notes. You guys, if it gets boring, you tell me and then just shut it down. Okay? This is Cliff's Notes. Done.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Okay. Post-World War II, there's a UN doctrine to create an independent Jewish state. You can obviously go before this. Like, if you really want to go to, like, the idea of Zionism, who is it? Like, Herzl, I think, started. Ironically, an Austrian guy. Austrians, yeah, created a lot of conflict for the Jewish people. Like, okay, so the U.N. doctrine to create an independent Jewish state.
Starting point is 01:01:38 So it is true when Israelis say, hey, we didn't, this isn't us that created this. This is the U.N. that created this, right? So that's one common thing that Israelis are saying., we didn't, this isn't us that created this. This is the UN that created this, right? So that's one common thing that Israelis are saying. We didn't go this, we're deciding this and fuck everybody. This is what the UN decision was, okay? In that doctrine, it also says that they are to create an independent Arab state as well. Currently, that hasn't exactly happened, right? There isn't an independent place that is Palestine, but that was also in the doctrine. Now, the reason Palestine exists, like I said, Britain wanted to create a pipeline from northern Iraq to Haifa. So May 1st, 1948, Palestinians start fleeing the area that at
Starting point is 01:02:16 the time was Palestine because of tension with the Jews that are living and then moving in there. Now, May 15th, 1948, the British mandate over Palestine ends. So remember that British mandate says, hey, we want to make sure we have that thing for the pipeline. So May 15th, that's going to end, right? So May 15th, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq. Oh, sorry. May 14th, Ben-Gurion announces the state of Israel. So the day before it's about to end, he goes, yo, we got to state this is our shit on may 15th jordan egypt iraq syria all invade but their pussy is fucked and arabs can't fight for shit so they lose right you gotta explain it more like a new yorker like like okay
Starting point is 01:02:56 new york gotcha all right so jordan egypt iraq and syria invade right but arabs can't win a war to save their life so so so they get rinsed, right, by Israel, right? I mean, this is why Turks don't really fuck with Arabs, I think, because Turks, like, ran the world for, like, 500 fucking years. They had, like, white slaves. Like, that's the pinnacle of, like, any culture, you know? Like, England had white slaves, bro. We were their slaves. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Okay. So the five countries, basically, they couldn't, I mean, they just couldn't take them out at all. Israel grows after the war and then takes over half of Jerusalem. So they expand their territory after the war. They win this war. They go, yo, we're taking more. We're going to take half of Jerusalem. Okay. So the new border is announced, right? I think, I believe in 48, that's the green line, the current map that we have right now, right? After 48. Basically, what happens is this. The new border is announced. Israel takes half of Jerusalem. Egypt takes Gaza. You guys are familiar with, obviously, Gaza. Jordan takes the other half of Jerusalem, which
Starting point is 01:04:00 is East Jerusalem and the West Bank. And this is what's called the green line. And this is the current mapping of that area that we see now. And it was drawn up that way because they lost a war. They didn't lose, essentially. Essentially, yeah. So after losing it, they're like, yo, we're going to gobble up some more of this shit, which I believe at the time, that's how things worked, right? As you go on through history, there's like international law that states just because you lose a war, you can't just annex land. But as we've seen recently, there are countries that have annexed parts of it. Not only Israel, but you see what Russia did with the Ukraine. They annexed that part of what Azerbaijan was doing to Armenia. I think what Turkey did to like North Cyprus. So this is common, but illegal
Starting point is 01:04:39 in terms of international law. But what the fuck is international law? Like, is the UN going to walk in and go, hey, you can't do that? We didn't really do that when Russia took part of Ukraine, right? Could you say that if the UN is responsible for creating Israel, the whole creation, they could also step in and be like, yo, we gave it to you, but don't do this. Yes. And then that's where shit gets money, because when people invade you, the UN's not going, hey, don't do that, or coming in with forces, and you fight back, and then you take some more land, some people might go, okay, well, that's how land gets carved up throughout history, is there wars,
Starting point is 01:05:09 and then territories move this way or this way based on the outcome of that war. That's what some people might say. I'm not justifying. I'm just saying that there is a reason why people believe it. So 1948, this is after what happened after that war. So 1948 to 1967, Jews get kicked out of a lot of Arab countries, right? Not Morocco, weirdly, but many did leave, right? Many did leave.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Many did leave. So now you have a lot of Jews that are from throughout the world, especially in the Middle Eastern region, they're pouring into Israel. So the number's rising, right? 1967, there's a six-day war, okay? Arabs try to run it back. Egypt, Jordan, they're about to invade they literally have like the forces lined up israel launches preemptive strike on egypt uh
Starting point is 01:05:52 jordan syria and iraq respond they all get their fucking fannies rinsed once again dude like just fucking bodied this time right um like never seen their fannies rinsed this hard that's the way that that fa put it. And the results of the Six-Day War is Israel expands again. They capture the Golan Heights and East Jerusalem, right? East Jerusalem is important for what's going on right now because that area, Shek Jarrah, is in that area, right? They captured West Bank, Gaza, the Sinai Peninsula, and they just straight bodied them.
Starting point is 01:06:22 There was one more war, the Yom Kippur War, which is like super tragic, right? A lot of dead bodies on both sides. It was like one of those experiences where like Israel won, but both sides were like, we can't have this much fucking bloodshed. Like too many people are dying.
Starting point is 01:06:35 This is, we gotta stop this. So there is another ceasefire, right? And as part of that agreement, there's a peace treaty with Egypt and they gave Egypt back to Sinai. Okay? In 1980, Israeli Supreme Court annexes East Jerusalem. Right?
Starting point is 01:06:50 So it's fully Israel in their eyes. Now, the UN law said it was null and void, but in the same way the UN law would say, hey, Russia, you can't take back Crimea or Azerbaijan. You can't take these parts of Armenia, et cetera. Right? But if you're a country and you've got enough weapons, you can be like, yes, I can. And that's what Russia did. Nobody's fucking talking about it. Right. So 1988, Jordan and Egypt give up the West Bank and Gaza to Palestinian authority. So they basically go, yo, we're not looking after this anymore. Palestinians,
Starting point is 01:07:26 go yo we're not looking after this anymore palestinians you look after it in israel's mind they're like well we bodied that when y'all tried to invade us again and you lost so you giving up some shit that we already took you know what i'm saying so it's like who are you to give it up like last time you tried to run it back you got your fanny rinse and now you're talking about you giving some shit up that you don't even own no more it's like i took your chain and now you're talking about you giving some shit up that you don't even own no more. It's like I took your chain and now you're saying that I could give it to somebody. It's like the chain is tooken. Yeah. You know? So Shekdara is that section that's in East Jerusalem and that's what happened right now.
Starting point is 01:07:54 You probably heard it in the news, right? I'm probably mispronouncing it. Correct me if I'm wrong. Palestinians that were expelled because of, I didn't bring this up, but the Nakba. Can you explain that a little bit? Okay, that's fine. Basically, Palestinians that were expelled from areas of Jerusalem moved there when Israel first took that first half, right? They moved there, right? In East Jerusalem, Jordan ruled at the time. Jordan gave them land to build homes,
Starting point is 01:08:25 and the UN gave them money to make the homes. So in 1967, the war happens, Israel takes over the region, they annex the region, right? And the families, I guess, weren't allowed to register their homes. In 1972, there's a court decision saying that this area actually belongs to Jews from back in the day in the 1800s. So now everybody's going, whose land is this really? Well, technically it was ours back in the 1800s, blah, blah, blah. A verdict came out in the court that was actually in favor of the Palestinians. And it was like, no, these are their homes. Then the Palestinians claim that there is a lawyer that wasn't that honest that registered the land for the Israeli settlements. So now you have this thing where it's like, yo, we had a decision that went our way.
Starting point is 01:09:13 But then this lawyer is registering this land, not really for us, but for Israeli settlements. So what the fuck is going on? Right. Isn't that easily reversible, though? Like it's settled in court. It's done. Which court? Is it Israeli court? court it's done which court which court is it israeli court is it the un court like you're dealing with so many different things like if you don't believe that that is it's imagine this it's like there's this land right that none of us have un approval to own right and we're both saying that our own courts are saying it's ours yeah well it doesn't mean anything yeah it's like an american court saying uh some law in
Starting point is 01:09:47 some house in mexico should actually be ours and the mexicans are like no it's yeah your law means nothing over here yeah right so that's how the court ruled on it it wouldn't also yeah because we don't give a shit about the un that's another thing so they don't care about the un right they've been biased enough towards is, even though ironically... We'll get there. We'll get there. I'm just saying, from Israelis, they're not going to listen to any judgment. So,
Starting point is 01:10:12 listen, so there's a bunch of... This is disputed, but a lot of different... Like in 1970, they said the Jews can reclaim lost land. There's Ottoman documents saying that Palestinians own that land. Those documents are rejected. Again, we're just going back and forth in political or legal jargon at this point, okay? Basic issue is Israel's giving citizens rights to reclaim land, but not giving Palestinians
Starting point is 01:10:40 arguably the same rights to reclaim their land, right? So if it was their land before, why should they not have the right to reclaim it? And then they can both go back and forth hundreds and hundreds of years proving that they had some ancestors that were living there. And you know what? These people have all lived in the same fucking area for thousands of years. So you can just keep on going back and finding documents that somebody put a fucking tree stump down in one area and it was a Muslim guy. Okay. So it it's us we should have it or a jewish dude down the block was like okay it was us so i understand the difficulty okay um the one argument is obviously you lost the war and what happens after you lose the war is you don't get any fucking rights to whatever it is yeah um uh maybe that's against
Starting point is 01:11:22 international law but you know that is what it is. And like I said, there's other countries that are also doing this at the time and nobody seems to have that issue over. Right. So then you have, now you can play into like leadership and like, what are the motivations of these different places? Right. Like right now, I think they've had four elections in Israel and can't form a coalition. So they have like a coalition government. They don't have like what we have, where it's just you get a president. So they have like the leader of the coalition, I guess, is Netanyahu.
Starting point is 01:11:58 And for everybody that thinks like that Israel just feels one way about Palestine and what's going on, and it seems like I'm capping for Israel here. I'm just trying to make sure everybody's on the same page. The reason why they haven't been able to form a coalition for the last four elections is because motherfuckers there disagree. There's a difference between the politics and the people of every country. I know everybody around the world hates American politicians. So do we. We don't want to be in fucking Afghanistan. We don't want to be in these senseless wars over and over and over again. We don't want to disrupt and overthrow governments. The average person, us, we don't want to like disrupt and overthrow governments the average person us we don't want to do that now do we like the benefits of it fuck yeah yeah we like some cheap gas you know what i mean we like the fact that our money is backed by oil we like all
Starting point is 01:12:33 these things but if you ask us on like a human level if we want that no we're fortunate enough that all the shit that we fuck with around the world ain't next door yeah but please believe if it was next door we gonna hear about it yeah okay but the people are different than the government and i think a lot of times what's the tricky issue with israel is that like because it is a jewish state criticism of the government and their actions is viewed as anti-semitic now there are a lot of anti-semites that criticize israel because it is a safe way to be anti-Semitic. They feel hatred towards Jews, and they're like, well, here's a good way to prove why. And there are people who love Jews, who are Jewish, Jewish people in Israel that are very critical of their own government,
Starting point is 01:13:18 that do not like the decisions that Netanyahu has made, that do not like the expanding settlements that look at it as poking the bear and would prefer that there was a two state solution where both of these people had access to their land and they didn't have to constantly be fighting over it. And the tricky thing is in order to maintain power, politicians, we know this in America, just like anywhere else, will sign deals with whoever allow them to maintain power so netanyahu is going whoever's going to support me allow me to keep running this shit i will do whatever you oh the settlers the settlers are the people that are creating these these like pockets of i guess israeli expansion within the west bank is that fair so okay i'ma rock with them i'ma rock with them because then
Starting point is 01:13:59 they're going to support me right and of course the palestinians are going like yo do we have like our space or not like it seems like you keep expanding and then the average israelis who are happily living in fucking jerusalem or tel aviv are going stop going over there because my kid is in the army and he's gonna get fucking killed yeah yeah so that's why you have half the country and probably more going i don't want this guy in power i don't want want. Now, here's the problem. The second bombs start going off. When there is fear, there is no empathy.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Things get primal. Yes. With fear, no empathy exists. If I think myself or my kids are going to die, I do not have any empathy for the other person on the other side. Yeah. I want to do whatever protects my kids. Yeah. The second the rockets go off on both sides, it does not matter.
Starting point is 01:14:46 The rockets go off on both sides it does not matter the rockets go off all of a sudden you're not worried about how those people could feel about land disputes you're not worried about you're going oh you're trying to kill my family i don't give a fuck about you yeah and that's and then okay so when you look at the guy like netanyahu uh now i guess he has a lot of sport because i think in times of war, everybody supports the person who's... But before that, there was not. All of my friends that were either Israeli or hardline, pro-pro-Israel, none of them liked Netanyahu. You were very critical of Netanyahu. Yeah, I was an early super fan.
Starting point is 01:15:19 I mean, war hero, well-spoken, American educated, did such incredible things. And then you saw this lust to keep on a lot of this power. And I was like, no one should be in power that long. Who is your successor? Who should we start backing? And you didn't see that. So you have someone like me who was like, hey, let's see who else is out there. But look right now, both sides, left and right, are loving him because in times of crisis like this you want the strong line right wing fucking hardcore leader and it's like and this is this is what happens i mean like often people have spoken about netanyahu he's basically a plastic bag in the wind it's just whatever the fuck whoever's going to support me whatever the opinion is i will roll with that so i can maintain this power and um just
Starting point is 01:16:05 to clarify real quick with the settlers right they're basically uh they're not necessarily israelis a lot of times they're americans uh ukrainians like people who like dove was saying even they're like these ukrainians that are like one-eighth jewish and they're just basically leaving fucking russia the ukraine for a life. And these settlements in the West Bank get subsidized by the Israeli government. So they're getting basically super cheap houses, but with all, you know, good amenities, et cetera. So they're almost incentivized to leave their really poor countries and come to a first world country that you have access to all these, you know, I guess, amazing, you know, resources. And then you're expanding, amazing resources, and then you're expanding, I guess, Israel in the process, right? Or at least the frontiers. The extremists on the Israeli side see it as historical Jewish land. I believe they
Starting point is 01:16:54 called it Judeo-Sumeria. So it's more than just these lines. It's wherever the Jewish people, I guess, were roaming back in the day. But I think the average Jew does not see Israel like that. Well look, eventually they're gonna be wanting to still be able to go over there. I mean there's absolute incredible historical parts of those areas that you would hope that if they want to visit, you know, birthplace, I think Mark, help me here, like Joseph and different... Oh, I mean, yeah, the birthplace of all the modern religions i mean jesus you want to go to nazareth you're gonna have to go to the west bank you know so you have this situation you have this situation where a lot of people going oh like israel just
Starting point is 01:17:35 wants a one-state solution they just want to take over all the land etc and that's not the case because if they do that, they can't be democratic. Right? If they take over all of the West Bank and Gaza and incorporate them into Israel, the number of non-Jewish now Israelis will be too high and they won't be able to maintain whatever laws that they want to maintain. I mean, shit, if they wanted to do it just based on democracy, they could be like, you know, Sharia law is in. We got more numbers and this is what's going to happen. So they wouldn't be able to maintain democracy. And the reason why that's important is because if they don't maintain democracy, guess what support they lose? UN support?
Starting point is 01:18:16 US. US support. We're not out here supporting dictatorships unless they got crazy oil. You know what I mean? And unfortunately, there's no oil in israel good job choosing that offshore yeah offshore good job in the chat that land but um all right guys we'll take a break for a second because listen sometimes it's gonna rain on your birthday sometimes the line for coffee wraps around the entire fucking building sometimes
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Starting point is 01:20:56 then that's where the fuck you're going to go with your land. Isn't that America? Manifest destiny? Wasn't that like, this is what God wants? Literally. Sea to shining sea? Sea to shining sea. Literally. And it's like, once God tells you it's okay, then they're like, all right, let's move the native Americans. Let's move the Mexicans. Let's move whoever
Starting point is 01:21:11 the fuck is in the way. We'll move them out. Right. Once God, and that's on both sides. So if the extremists on the Israeli side are like, yo, God said that this is our land. They don't give a fuck about how the Palestinians feel, if they're going to be in those settlements or not, if it is, uh, you know, divided in an apartheid type system they don't give a flying fuck those extremists the average israeli sure they don't want this shit but those extremists are like fuck it this is god said this is our land so we're going to keep running we're not going to beat 50 50 because god don't do 50 50 right god does 100 because i'm god i don't have to negotiate with nobody and the same side
Starting point is 01:21:45 of the palestinians i think a jewish god would negotiate you would think but yeah but so and then i think on the palestinian side um the same thing like the extremist organizations that are running and making the decisions there aren't gonna go yeah let's just have an easy two-state solution because that doesn't satisfy their thirst and that doesn't satisfy the people that are funding them. Right? If you are running it based on the decisions of God, you're not going to go, well, God would be happy with 50-50. And passion gets votes and it's hard to get votes if you're moderate and you're asking. Moderate people don't vote. They're not passionate enough. I would not be surprised if you asked me. And I've asked Palestinians and we have friends that
Starting point is 01:22:24 are Palestinian, comics are Palestinian. I would not be surprised if you spoke to them and you're like yo would you guys be cool with a two-state solution i bet you the majority of them just like the majority of jews like yes we would fucking love that we love our independence and autonomy but the people making the decisions at the highest level they might not be okay with that and they might know that their bread is buttered not wanting that so they'll do everything they possibly can to fight. And who knows? Maybe Israel wouldn't allow that. Maybe they wouldn't. Maybe they wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:22:49 I know that there's tons of historical precedents for fear that given a two-state solution and given access to whatever resources that they would have, they would feel like, oh, shit, we could be under attack potentially. Maybe Iran would throw tons of money and throw tons of weaponry at, you know, the people that are running Gaza, the Hamas in Gaza, you know, and maybe they would put us at an even more, you know, an even more, for lack of a better word, like fearful state. And I guess I see where Israel is coming from in the sense of like getting outvoted. Like the reason Pakistan formed is Muslims were, a lot of Muslimslims were like look if we are part of india we'll get outvoted on everything any like law muslim versus hindu we don't have the numbers we need our own country now they have their own country and you would think that's not going to happen but now india is very like pro-hindu and any like any pro-hindu thing we're just going to pass it because we got
Starting point is 01:23:41 the numbers yeah so i see where they're coming from it does seem like though fundamentally aren't they just they're trying to take back land that they said was theirs but they haven't had like it's that's the issue right that's where the conflict starts and then you guys felt it was escalated because rockets got fired toward you so now you're like we don't give a fuck anymore but that's all we're trying to do is survive and i can i just make my please i guess my statement is i think it's important. I mean, I sit off camera. A lot of folks have been messaging me on this on both sides. This is where I stand. Just even going back historically, I am a Moroccan Jew.
Starting point is 01:24:13 My parents were born in Morocco. Every one of my family members has left Morocco, either for Israel, France, Canada, or US. My father still speaks fluent Arabic. He speaks Arabic to his brothers. We are in love with that culture. We love my religious Jewish family, revere the king of Morocco. That is the biggest proof, like that type of coexistence. This is what I grew up on. This is what I love. I'm also an absolute huge supporter of Israel. Two of my grandparents are buried in Israel. I'll never lose that love and support. So I will always give, we have that statement, we have a right to exist, that country exists, they will die for it. You know, my family, I have family members serving
Starting point is 01:24:58 in that army. At the same time, I believe and I've always believed that Palestinians deserve every single of the same exact type of equal rights in their own country. I've always been a believer of the two-state solution. That seems tougher and tougher as we go. So we can speak on this. The one thing I will say, though, in this current conflict that's been so tough for me, and you've seen it from everyone that's spoken up on it i mean i was worried about you guys speaking up on it because it's if you understand the group that we're in i mean it's the the jew we have muslims working with us and the indians and the catholic i mean this is what i
Starting point is 01:25:36 love this is probably why i left hollywood like this is the realest thing i've ever been involved with i i've loved the the the arab and muslim fans that have like come up and they're huge amounts. And I think that the answer to this is what you guys do all the time is bust each other's balls and everyone tried to find common ground. And that's what I want to say I believe in. In this particular instance, it's gotten so bad from the last experience, the war in 2014, of at least there being some type of let's see both sides to I can't believe that people won't do research or at least speak against the one thing that they should be speaking out against, which is very clear to me and a ton of my friends and family of Hamas that
Starting point is 01:26:16 is running Gaza, that is firing indiscriminately into Israel, is a terrorist organization. I separate them from Palestine or Palestinians. But this is all we're seeing is that somehow there's a justification for that or people aren't speaking up on that. I mean, if you asked me a week ago, is what's happening in Sheikh Jarrah terrible? I'm like, yes, it's a political BS and we are not our governments. And there's still so much shit to have to be resolved in that instance, but you lose the plot when you're talking about 3,000 rockets being fired from Gaza indiscriminately into Israel. With Sheikh Jarrah, there are people that were evicted from those homes. They were on
Starting point is 01:26:56 this, I guess, what people believe to be disputed territory, right? So the territory was eventually owned by, I believe, israeli ngo but the people there are like nah jordan gave us this land and or the in the un gave us money to build the homes like these are our homes right but then israel's like well they were never registered with us when we annex the land and they were like but y'all never let us fucking register the homes so i believe that since the issue of settlements and Israeli expansion is so visceral and painful, and that wound is still open, seeing an example like this is just another example of that expansion. But there's a separate thing happening in Israel right now.
Starting point is 01:27:38 There are actual, for the first time, in Arab or co-Arabab christian towns just real quick of civil war basically but just which hasn't been seen in israel but just real quick just to clarify so what dove was saying is like yeah that's a fucked up political issue we should protest that like have protests like let's talk about let's come out in the street like i know that uh uh you know recently in uh in scotland's you know it's pretty amazing that uh that they're like they're these two like i think immigrant families that were like collected collected by like the scottish immigration services and i don't know the whole story i only saw it on instagram so if they end up fucking diddling kids or something like that i'm sorry i feel bad but the community surrounded
Starting point is 01:28:19 the fucking van that was taking them out of the community they just didn't let them take it and the police just went all right fucking let them out so the community. They just didn't let them take it. And the police just went, all right, fucking let them out. So the community just kind of like stepped up and they're like, yo, these are people in the community. We fuck with them. You're not going to just remove them. Maybe we can have some sort of like court proceedings to make sure they were Indian, by the way.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Court proceedings to like, you know, find a legal route for citizenship, et cetera, right? So the people came out and they're like, this is wrong. And you would never see me protest that. We wouldn't have rallies in the streets with maybe exactly maybe there's a version of that where it's like instead of you know going to violence people can come out and they can protest and maybe they would argue that's what they were doing at the temple mount or al-aqsa i think they were at al-aqsa right there's the temple mount then there's al-aqsa is on the temple mount they're next to each other yeah but it's the same area so they would maybe they would argue this is what we're doing we're peacefully protesting and then there's the other. Al-Aqsa is on the Temple Mount. They're next to each other. Yeah. But it's the same area. So maybe they would argue, hey, this is what we're doing.
Starting point is 01:29:07 We're peacefully protesting. And then like Israeli police started ushering us out or it's really fucked up. Point is, is that all like the wound is so fresh. It's always fresh. It's been fresh for fucking thousands of years. And any sort of aggravation on either side is looked at as, oh, it's go time. But that was Hamas trying to actually flex and have power. I mean, that's just clear to me. You can call it my bias. I wish there were other folks
Starting point is 01:29:31 in the room on the other side to defend it. But what am I arguing here? There's terrorists firing at both Jews and Arabs, 3,000 rockets indiscriminately. If we didn't have that Iron Dome system that was also co-funded by the US, and we now saw Israeli buildings, hospitals, schools being blown up, not what Israel's doing back in Gaza, and you can, again, I'm going to get a million messages arguing that they're attacking civilians. They're using as much restraint as I think that they could without going into Gaza, which they don't want to do, and that's a fact as well, then you wouldn't see me arguing. You're talking about, we're looking at it as there's a war and there's terrorism.
Starting point is 01:30:11 That's terrorism. And I wish, please, if you want to use pressure on the government, on politics, use that. For me, I was actually most hopeful about changes happening in Israel when I saw that they couldn't form this government for such a long time. I was like, hopeful about changes happening in Israel when I saw that they couldn't form this government for such a long time. I was like, okay, people want something new. And then there were these new established relationships with the Gulf states like United Arab Emirates. And I believe that, do you know how many Israelis loved that newfound connection with them that have been flying to Dubai that are striking up business deals. I would hope that that would be the best way for those Gulf states to now start taking
Starting point is 01:30:48 care of Palestinians and giving them bigger opportunities now that they have so much leverage on Israel in terms of new business deals and all the prosperity that can come from that would go down and also affect the Palestinians in a great way to the point that they couldn't, that they would slow down the settlement building, that they would find a way to finally speak on that. So we can say who's right and wrong, but where do we go? Full takeaway here is I think most people agree that the expansion of Israel with these settlements in the West Bank is a cause of problems and tension and seen as an aggressive act. Israelis, Americans, Canadians, Europeans. That's what I'm thinking here. I think most people go, yo, dude, that's not cool. Okay. You have the power to do that. And these other people are powerless to stop you.
Starting point is 01:31:42 I don't think that's a right thing. There's got to be a better solution to that and i think also most people can go you can't shoot rockets at fucking civilians yeah it doesn't justify it there's this like logical leap that i don't understand where like people go when rockets fly up and yes they have an iron dome but that doesn't mean it's okay right but it's like when rockets fly because and yes, they have an iron dome, but that doesn't mean it's okay. Right. But it's like when rockets fly, because they did land a couple land and there were 10% of them are landing. So talk about 10% of 3000 plus rockets. Right. So it's like, so there's this weird justification where they're like, well, yeah, because, because you're evicting these people, that's why 30 rockets get sent. And it's like, or you're expanding your territory or you're doing this. Yes, those things are wrong.
Starting point is 01:32:27 I don't know if that justifies sending all the rockets. Now, two things can be wrong at the same time. And we all agree we need to find a solution to this because the more that this happens, the more that we're going to see rockets, but we can't jump to rockets, you know? I think on a primal level, it feels a little bit, and it's ironic that so many Hollywood types are saying that from California, because this is exactly what happened in California, but it seems like it's a little bit like bullying.
Starting point is 01:32:52 You're just come taking land from us. Yeah. We were here, and then you're just taking this from us. And so there is a certain level of empathy there that when a response happens, it's like, all right you were getting bullied so you had to respond how you respond right but that doesn't necessarily mean you're allowed to fire 3 000 rockets you know i mean the reaction is disproportionate yeah and then expect something not to happen but i think it's so viscerally emotional to see those videos and like people are praying during e then they're getting forced you know i mean it's just like it's like well fuck man whatever yo these guys got to fight back and i don't think the reaction is proportionate but there's a
Starting point is 01:33:26 visceral kind of like amen you got to fight back how you got to fight back it's easier to relate to the underdog let's relate to the underdog of being palestinians i want everyone to understand i don't care how much hate hamas is isis hamas is hezbollah. It is a terrorist organization. That's it. If it happened to anyone else's country, they would say, nuke the place. And then we don't care about the collateral damage. Israel's doing their best to mitigate that. But yes, civilians are dying.
Starting point is 01:33:55 And I cry for every single lost life on both sides. This is terrible. I want this to end. Anyone that knows me knows I want this to end. But let's, why don't we jump to the end? How does this end? Do you think Israel is going to wave the white flag and give this up? They will be there till the last dying man or woman.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Yeah, that's the thing about this that is so tragic, is the more you research this, and I hate to even say this, the less a solution looks like it's going to happen. Like the more I started looking into this and the more I started talking to people about this and reading about this, the more I was like, oh, we're not solving this in our fucking lifetime, bro. I mean, or the way the only way it does get solved is one or the other wins. And but the fact that the idea of them just living together and both believing that god doesn't want that you've spoken on this it's kind of it's like it's a joke premise but like there's some truth to it the reason we don't have this kind of shit in
Starting point is 01:34:56 america is because we killed the natives mostly the reason australia doesn't have these issues is because mostly they killed the natives. Historically, back in the day, you would just kill the natives. In a modern time where you don't do that, there's going to be a constant conflict. And yeah, I don't, to your point, there might be a ceasefire, but I don't think the wound is going to get reopened over and over again. I got lost in most of his explanation in terms of the history. I'm glad you gave it, but I was like, yo, a lot is happening. But the one thing I picked up
Starting point is 01:35:26 on big picture was this shit, history just is going to repeat itself, it seems. And fundamentally, it seems like if you can back off the expansion, then you'll back off
Starting point is 01:35:36 the retaliation, which will back off your retaliation, which is going to be, y'all got the tech. I would love that. If you were going to say, what does a Palestinian country look like?
Starting point is 01:35:46 And please, I'm absolutely not an expert here. I mean, because if you ask anyone on the hard right of Israel, the truth, they want, it's Gaza only. That's what they believe that Palestine can declare, and that'll still be monitored for security reasons. I would say, give them the West Bank, give them Gaza. I do not ever believe that they would give up East Jerusalem at this point, but I hope that with peace, that there is continued monitoring by Jordan and other
Starting point is 01:36:15 countries. But it is going to always stay the capital of Israel. Every country gets to declare their capital. That's just how it works. You could declare it. That'd be cool. I think the most unique and inspiring solution for Jerusalem specifically would just be like, this is God's city, bro. Nobody can have God's city. God's city is God's city. If y'all really believe in God, then that's for God.
Starting point is 01:36:46 That's not for you. You don't own God's city. Muslims or Jordanians or Palestinians don't own God's city. God owns God's city. And maybe everybody could realize that their God, regardless of who it is, had played some part in that city and has sent prophets there. And maybe they could all maybe check ego. I mean, this is never going to happen.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Of course not. But it would be really cool if there was this one center where everybody could go. It doesn't matter who the fuck you are. Also, it's going to be tricky because I think most religions, three major religions, it's our God is the God. Yeah, but all of them have sent prophets there, right? It's like all of them have these servants of God that have gone to Jerusalem. At least there's some debate whether Muhammad went there in a dream or he actually went there.
Starting point is 01:37:30 But they've played a part in the history of the religion. And I don't know. It'd be cool if it was looked at as shared. That would be beautiful. I want it to be the shared city. Anyone that knows, I mean, when Andrew and I went to Israel together, it's like, you get to the Western Wall, you pull up to the Old City, you go through a place called the Jaffa Gate, where you're walking through the Arab Quarter to the right.
Starting point is 01:37:55 You turn right if you want to go and see the Church of the Holy Supplicant, which is where Jesus came down from the cross, was in turn, and was put on the anointing stone. You continue walking down the same path, the same narrow little path, and you've reached the most important part in Judaism, the bottom of the Temple Mount, the Western Wall, where then you could see the Dome of the Rock and Al-Aqsa on top and the Temple Mount. You do this all within a five-minute walk down this corridor, and it's the most beautiful thing in the world. So I always believe in that, but now we're talking again, we're talking governments, and we're talking about
Starting point is 01:38:29 whose city it is. So in terms of whose city it is, I'm like, believe me, I believe in the spirit that it is everyone's city, and it's God's city. Of where it is, in terms of like borders, Israel will never give up. They will die. They will die at everyone's floor to to keep that there's an old john stewart joke from i like saw a clip of it it was like the fucking 80s when he did stand up we talked about like he said something about how it's all so close together jesus muhammad and abraham or moses or whatever all went to the same high school like it's just like it's it's that it's that close it's beautiful i mean that's what it's what it's what i want to see i mean but we're gonna i mean a lot of these arguments are like, we're still going
Starting point is 01:39:08 back in history. Like Andrew went through all of this and I'm just like, I heard this all before. Like, where are we? How do we get to it? And I truly believe that there was going to be progress when we talked about, you know, these new relations and more prosperity and the hope that maybe after a global pandemic, things will come together. But no. I don't know. I'm curious to hear what you guys have to say. Any thoughts? I mean, not necessarily. I don't know a ton about the issue at hand,
Starting point is 01:39:37 but I have been interested in the media reaction because it seems like the first conflict in ever since I've been on social media and even just like even tracking the news, that the public opinion has swayed towards supporting Palestine. It seems like historically in the United States, like specifically in my community growing up, like it was very evangelical Christians, and they all support Israel.
Starting point is 01:40:01 But selfishly. Yeah, no, of course. Explain the evangelical Christian support of Israel, because I think this is really interesting. I don't understand it necessarily perfectly, but my understanding, there were a few kids from my high school that were like, we need Jews to go back to Israel, because once all the Jews
Starting point is 01:40:15 return to their holy land in Zion, then Jesus will come back and kill all of them. Yeah, we've got to centralize them in one place so we can just drop a whole net and capture them. It's so funny because evangelical Christians are so supportive of the Jews being in the homeland, right? And Jews are like, well, yeah, that's awesome. We want support for us being in the homeland.
Starting point is 01:40:38 But they don't go any further as to why they're supportive. If Jews just ask one more question, like, yo, why are you riding for us so far? You'll find out. Go eat the cheese off the mousetrap. Exactly. It's great cheese. Not to compare them to rats, okay? I didn't mean to actually compare them.
Starting point is 01:40:54 I'm just saying as a metaphor, okay? Go eat the cheese. How hilarious is that? Go eat the cheese, yeah. It's like, what's funny is, of course Jews are going to take them up on it because Jews are like, he ain't coming back. Oh, yeah. He's going back the first time of course, Jews are going to take them up on it because Jews are like, he ain't coming back.
Starting point is 01:41:05 Oh, yeah. He's going back the first time. Yeah, he's going to come back once. We're expecting another guy to come. He gone. He gone. He gone. For good.
Starting point is 01:41:15 But it's just so funny how all this works out. Okay. So that was like my perspective growing up. It was like I knew all these like evangelical Christian pro-Zion people. Yes. And for the first time seeing like the modern... Explain Zionism real quick it's a term everybody hears but maybe some people don't know what it is I should not be the person to explain it. Zionism is just the idea that there is a Jewish
Starting point is 01:41:34 homeland and you support that idea of the Jewish homeland you believe that the Jewish homeland is what Zion Mount Zion is that it or am I singing a Bob Marley song? Well, yeah. I've always wanted that also. Because I hear it in so many songs and shit like that. It basically just means if you're a Zionist, you believe that Israel should exist. And the Zionist movement was built around this idea that the Jewish people should have a homeland.
Starting point is 01:41:58 A place for them. And that homeland is Israel right now. And it's based in the Torah as far as giving Moses the promised land. You have Cana. This is your place, and this is where your people are going to be, and I'm going to take care of you no matter what. And you're going to have generations of people,
Starting point is 01:42:13 and they're all going to propagate this land or whatever. And something really interesting is the most extreme Jews, the Hasidic Jews, those are the ones that have the hats, and they're in Brooklyn, and they wear the black suits, and they have the hair that curls on the side. Raise my rent. They raised it 5,100. the side. Raise my rent. They raised it $5,100. I had to cancel my lease.
Starting point is 01:42:32 You're not the only person they raised the rent on, apparently. That's why we're in this situation in the first place. Free Mark. Hashtag free me. A lot of evicting going on. Come on. So it really switches your angle. You're immediately sympathetic to the Palestinian struggle.
Starting point is 01:42:48 I get it. I really do. The city of David is on Mount Zion, which is the hill in Jerusalem. And Zionism, we were saying at first. Just real quick with the Hasidic Jews. You would think that the most extreme version of the religion would be supportive. They would be Zionists, right? They'd be like the most extreme Zionists. like the most extreme version of like Muslims, for example. You're like,
Starting point is 01:43:14 yo, all the holy sites, that's ours. Like, let's get it. They are not supportive of the state of Israel because they think it's a political act. And they think that God will bring Israel back to the Jewish people. The Messiah is supposed to come and then you would go back. And this is a small group. God has given us the equipment to go back. And this is a small group. God has given us the equipment to do it. We've got the fuck up. Trust me, there's plenty of religious Jews on the right that are happily in Jerusalem. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:38 No, no. There are groups that are anti-Zionist. Yes. Absolutely. Which is just surprising, because I thought that they would be the most... Yeah. They are anti-Zionist. Yes.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Which is, it's just surprising because I thought that they would be like the most. Yeah. And remember, Zionism was this movement from Herzl where he was basically, he saw the writings on the wall in Europe. He was basically telling people like, it's getting, you know, anti-Semitism is not new in the 30s from, like this was happening in the 1800s. I mean, before. I mean, literally, I'm in Morocco because we were given four months to leave, convert, or die from Spain from Isabel and Ferdinand. It was called the Alhambra Decree.
Starting point is 01:44:11 So we ended up over there. Herzl was getting people in the 1800s, 1900s saying like, we need a Jewish homeland. It's getting bad over here. It's surprising. You meet enough Jews, you'll meet multiple who are like, oh, we're here because we had to flee where we were before. Yeah, that's been their history yeah there's been a lot of fleeing that but uh yeah so just if we clarify some things just so you know you see these videos popping up of like people beating up like a jewish dude and fucking canada you know what i mean and
Starting point is 01:44:40 you're just like whoa what's going on like yeah going on? Is this starting to happen? What's going on here? Just to clarify, I think we all empathize, or you should fucking empathize with what the Palestinian people are going through. Yeah. If you're not empathizing with them, then you are so biased that you're removing humanity from a group of people that deserve humanity. And they deserve that empathy. They deserve that love. Yeah. They deserve that empathy. They deserve that love. And it is underestimated how much empathy Israeli people have for that plight. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 01:45:10 Israeli people. Israeli people. Not the government, but the people. How many of them want there to be a two-state solution? How many of them want there to be a country that is Palestine, their territory? And how many people disagree with this expansion of Israel and the expansion of these settlements. Okay? I think most calm, logical, reasonable people would agree or at least have that thinking process. Yeah. At the same time, they don't want terrorist organizations
Starting point is 01:45:38 for whatever reason to shoot rockets into their country. Also reasonable to not want that. I think that's very... If it happened to America... Like, think about it. to shoot rockets into their country. Also reasonable to not want that. I think that's very, if it happened to America, like think about it, like America occupies certain places, right? If America's occupying Afghanistan and some Taliban shoot some rockets
Starting point is 01:45:54 at the American base that they're occupying, please believe it's adios. Yeah, if they fired 3,000, we're not going to sympathize. You're talking about a war. Let them know. That happened in January, remember? They shot rockets, Iran shot rockets at a U.S. base. And everyone in America was like, oh, we're gone.
Starting point is 01:46:11 It's on like Donkey Kong. Yeah. And then we shot my man, right? Yeah. But guys, you're talking about their attacking. What's the motherfucker doing? He ain't getting by no more. But again, you're talking about them, people have said oh well they're they have a
Starting point is 01:46:25 right to attack back they're not attacking israeli army bases so let's equate it's like saying canada is firing on manhattan i know i know i know i know the point is the point is i'm look i know we're not justifying it and i after he does it up i know we're just we're not justifying we're just trying to make sure because i don't want anybody to be mischaracterized here. That's not to say that there aren't, I'm sure, plenty Israelis that are supportive of what's going on. Just as there are plenty Americans that are probably supportive of things that are going on that we might disagree with. But the idea that they're a complete monolith is not the case. And just because you want a Jewish homeland doesn't mean you don't want Palestinians to fucking exist. Okay? Those
Starting point is 01:47:03 things can operate separately. And I think Dov has said this, but he's separating Palestinians who probably don't want 3,000 rockets fired on Israel from Hamas. Yeah. And I'm sure every Palestinian in Palestine right now does not want occupation. They don't want Jewish police forces around.
Starting point is 01:47:20 They want their fucking country. That's it. And they deserve their fucking country. And you're hearing me say it I am saying it very clearly I absolutely believe in the same So I'm making this a Hamas Versus Palestinian argument
Starting point is 01:47:33 I really do hope that there is peace I hope that there is A homeland for them and they deserve it Like we have one, they have one as well I'm talking as an American But I'm a believer in the state of Israel So I can't as an American, but I'm a believer in the state of Israel. So I can't get off of that. And you're a believer in the state of Palestine.
Starting point is 01:47:50 Yeah. So it's like, let's do, I don't know what the fuck we got to do, man. And the more you research it, the more depressing it gets. It's a messy, that's a simple answer, but then the messy part becomes, what is Israel, what is Palestine?
Starting point is 01:48:01 Are you putting that joke out? Because I don't want to say it if you're putting your joke out. Not yet, but eventually I probably will. Okay, so like, I won't say anything about the joke. Mark has a funny bit. But the idea that like, you know, we don't have to look at everything as a two-solution situation, right?
Starting point is 01:48:19 Is that there is nuance and there are gray areas to every issue in life. And the problem of looking at this in this one way is that if you look at something in two states, you're going to villainize the other one, right? So if you don't want, if you're not supportive, if you can't, part of you can't come out and be like, yo, it's fucked what's happening in Palestine. It's fucked what's happening to these people. I don't want those people to go through that. That doesn't mean that you hate every Jewish person or that you don't want a Jewish homeland. Those things don't have to exist in, what is the word I'm looking for? That's not the dichotomy, right? But you
Starting point is 01:49:00 can have empathy and want to be a Jewish homeland. You can have a place in your heart for a Palestinian homeland and a Jewish homeland. And you can want this to be solved, obviously, in another way besides having war. But you can also call out the atrocities on both sides. You can call out a fucking terrorist organization, but you can also call out the expansion of Israel. And I'll be honest, if you're Palestinian, you see that as terrorizing. That's what I was. You see it as terrorizing. It's not the same as rockets, but you see it in that way. And to take that away from them is not fair. It's not fair. So it doesn't justify the reaction. It doesn't justify 3000 rockets, but you are shoving me off my homeland, which we, in my mind,
Starting point is 01:49:42 it's like, look, you already got your homeland. So why are you taking ours? Now, that does not make the reaction okay of 3,000 rockets in any way. But I can empathize with that feeling of, yo, you have a homeland. Now this is my homeland. Now you're taking it from me. And I don't think that there can be a solution unless,
Starting point is 01:50:00 I don't think there can be a solution if Hamas exists. And I don't think there can be a solution if expansion exists. Yeah and I don't think there can be a solution if expansion exists. Yeah, I can agree with both of those. I think you have to get rid of Hamas, and you have to get rid of their influence. They cannot be the people that are running shit in Gaza because there's no hope if they are, because we know they have one solution.
Starting point is 01:50:19 Matter of fact, you know who wants? There's nobody that wants war more than Hamas because that's how they recruit and that shit is peaceful between israel and and it's shit is peaceful in gaza guess who can't get any new members yeah hamas they want the embargoes to your point about that i empathize with israeli people once rockets get fired at them being like yo do what the fuck you got to do i'm under attack handle it israel i can identify with those palestinians getting shoved out their homeland feeling like they're under attack and be like yo hamas do what you got to do
Starting point is 01:50:48 because we're not prepared to fight this but y'all got shit so go i can see both sides i can see yeah i can see them definitely turning a blind eye yeah or that even like i can empathize with that that primal feeling of yo i'm under attack i'm what the fuck is going on i don't have a home and getting kicked out. I could die. I can't even celebrate Eid. Yo, Hamas, I don't know what's going to happen. I can use some help. This is what y'all do?
Starting point is 01:51:12 All right. This is what y'all do. Yeah. So it's just fucking, it just sucks, man. Do you think the media response has been sort of impacted by the Black Lives Matter protests throughout the summer or in the way that there's been sort of like a social Black Lives Matter protests throughout the summer or like in the way that there's been sort of like a social activism uptick? This happened when I was in
Starting point is 01:51:29 college. I noticed the shift when I was in college. I'd never experienced it before. Like you said before, there was just unilateral support of Israel. Yes. Right. And in college, I started to meet some people that were way more supportive of the Palestinian plight. Did you notice this in college at all? And that's where it has been really the most active since we were in college, but in student governments of universities across the country. Everybody just, Dov and I, that's how we know each other, went to college together. We met at that pro-Israel rally back then. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:52:08 But no, a friend of ours, like, he was very sympathetic, and I never understood it, because the way that it was kind of, like, positioned to me, it was like... We're programmed to think... Hey, listen, Israel's just defending themselves, and there's terror organizations that are trying to take them down, and then they'd always throw this in, and like, oh, yeah, by the way, they hate gays and women.
Starting point is 01:52:21 And you're like, oh, okay. You know what I mean? Like, it was... And then I think as the Democratic Party started to kind of fully identify around victimhood, they had no choice but to embrace the victimhood that exists around the world, right? And you can't say, yo, we stand up for the oppressed and then not side in this situation with the people that are being oppressed. So by drawing that fucking line in the sand, they all of a sudden stopped supporting Israel,
Starting point is 01:52:56 which was shocking because when I was younger, Jews were Democrats without a doubt. It wasn't even a question. Like always vote a Democrat. And now you've seen, at least in the last eight years, immediate switch. Especially with Obama doing the Iran deal.
Starting point is 01:53:13 I think that was a last straw for a lot of things. Abstaining on a UN vote in terms of... What was that UN vote? Of just basically saying that... Treat people with of just basically saying that people with human rights or to treat people with human rights vote like but but you know what i'm saying so it's just like yeah we've noticed that that shift and it's really interesting 2012 i think at the democratic
Starting point is 01:53:38 national convention they did a vote of like they're just going through the motions of like we're all one of the votes was something like we stand with israel over palestine or something like yeah and i heard a bunch of boos and i was like what yeah at the dnc yeah really and i that i was like oh shit something's happening so i'm later than y'all but i was like i remember that moment in my mind being like oh fuck this is interesting yeah i think it's starting to shift and now to mark's point i don't know what you didn't really finish what's going on where you grew up i know they were very pro-israel earlier now is it pro-palestinian or what yeah i mean like amongst my evangelical friends like i don't even necessarily it was always like their parents too so like i obviously haven't kept up with my
Starting point is 01:54:17 friends parents but like i don't know if it's shifted but just in terms of like my immediate circle and like even being in new york it seems like it's definitely yeah interesting and the concern sorry go no but i don't know if there was necessarily so much of like uh unilateral fervor for like an israeli state as a kid like i don't i never felt like it was like an obvious thing i just recognized within my sub-community it was that way but i knew a lot of other people that it was it just almost felt binary and i knew nothing and i still don't really have much of a passion for geopolitical anything yeah but it just felt kind of binary Israel is the guys that were on their team and Palestine were not that's just what it felt like with the U.S. like that's it yeah it's just it's just tricky and like concerning because when you have a religion that is also a country
Starting point is 01:54:58 it's hard to divide that identity. Yeah. Especially now, anti-Semitism, what anyone says, so much of this anti-Israel hate. You hate the Jews. I just say it. So it's just like, you just go, you just go,
Starting point is 01:55:15 you just jump to it. No, I make a distinction. I don't have the perspective. So many people don't. It's Palestine, Jews, Israel. You guys all look like cousins and then cousins yeah so like uh it's tricky man it is it is very tricky i think that um i think that the the asians are going to stop getting hated on pretty soon
Starting point is 01:55:39 and that hate is going to be funneled i had. I didn't have that thought. I was like, I wonder if this just shifts from anti-Asian to anti-Semitism. Yeah, maybe. But what's also weird is that it doesn't feel like they believe that there is, they've taken away the Jewish right to Israel, or not the Jewish right, the right for Israel as a country, that they're like, no, now it's back to all or nothing versus like we want a country too. It's like, no no river to the sea is a very clear bar and i might be even less informed than most but my very crude
Starting point is 01:56:11 understanding was just like dude israel just like popped up and the west was just like hey this is yours and then palestinians are like what the fuck is happening so there's a very crude understanding of them already even before this just getting moved off their homeland i know it's more nuanced than that but i think that's a lot of people's very crude understanding is like oh yeah they were there and then israel just popped up and now they're just getting moved off so yeah look i don't think that israel is going to be winning the pr war anytime soon so i'll wave the white flag uh on there and they're fighting puerto rico at a certain point like we just have to be like so much for jews running the media step it up jews, where the fuck have they been?
Starting point is 01:56:45 They've been sleeping, huh? On this one, we are getting bodied on this. But the resolve, I mean, this is the most unified I've seen Israel in many times. And Jews, just around. That we're like, wait, what? I'm seeing Nazi flags mixed into all this? It's getting so bad, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:04 The media thing that i did think was interesting is that you can't find on any main uh wait what he said nazi flags mixed in oh yeah that shit will pop up for sure they always do that but like there's on media headlines like for all like the major publications it's always israel hamas conflict and i do think it's interesting and i didn't realize because that pal because Palestine is not recognized as a state amongst all the media outlets that they can't say Israel versus Palestine. So it's Israel versus Hamas. And then I wonder how that affects people's perception of what the conflict is where they go, oh, it's them versus the terrorist group. And I wonder if that's impacting people's perception.
Starting point is 01:57:42 No, no. They know. I really am so shocked that there just hasn't been any distinction at all besides actually on major news sites. But in terms of like how people get their news from, you know, influencers. Now, they're just no one's doing any work to at least give one ounce. And that is to say, oh, yeah, there are these rockets coming from this group. Hamas. That's it. Again, I'm hoping for peace.
Starting point is 01:58:09 I love everyone. I love my Jews. I love my Arabs. I love Efe. You're a fucking star. We just relocate Israel to a better place. Then everybody wins. Bro, they were going to put it in fucking Rwanda or Uganda or some shit.
Starting point is 01:58:24 Give us somewhere in the Caribbean. I think I could convince some people There's a book someone wrote about they put Israel in Alaska Like some guy just wrote a book like what would have happened historically that was different Like a fantasy book?
Starting point is 01:58:39 Someone's fantasy? But yeah, I mean like i guess it's not the homeland you know it's just nice honestly i think it's just too cold yeah give them they figure it out aventura you guys got it bro that's you we got you guys they did kind of yeah now make it official you know i mean put them in brooklyn just give them all of bro. They get the whole thing. Why not? I was like, no. Why? They're going to start feeling real Palestinian. There's a river in Brooklyn.
Starting point is 01:59:10 That's close. They like rivers. Yeah. And the sea. That's also true. There's a sea train right there. Yeah. You're right there.
Starting point is 01:59:18 You're in it. The sea train is so good. See, that's how we solve this. Let's make fun of each other. Humor. Humor. Humor. Yeah. Let's make fun of each other. Humor! Humor! Let's go to the Middle East and try to solve it with humor. Humor and humos.
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