Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Chinese Mamdani, Candace Owens Debate, & Luigi's Confession
Episode Date: August 19, 2026YERRRR this week, we're chatting about: - You can negotiate with EVERYONE including doctors - Andrew's nose - Conspiracies around Luigi Mangione - Candace Owens debate with Andrew Wilson - Mamdani's a... political superstar - The death of monoculture and much, much more. Timestamps: 0:00 We can swim + Memphis diving 4:05 Private Clubs + No Kippah swimming 5:34 Toupee should be a kippah 7:08 Airlines, Sexism & College goers 11:27 KKK are pu55y + Upstate NY 13:17 Movie shooting + Andrew's nose 19:09 Cosmetic surgery, Dentists Upselling + Negotiating 32:06 Appropriating cultures, Baby Teeth + Dentist trips 38:48 Tonsil Hustle + Cavity Up-chargers 41:32 Luigi Mangione Conspiracies + Flock cameras 44:20 AI complaints 49:30 Luigi Mangione Plea + Jail more forever 53:45 3D print the nukes + Iranian sense of humour 56:32 Frontline report, Have a nuke + Hitting our allies 1:02:09 Tipping, Self Checkouts + Dunkin Donuts 1:12:47 Summer Streets, Suffer in NYC + Brooklyn transplants 1:26:53 Mamdani's a superstar, DSA + Flowers 1:40:18 Candace debate, Nuance = dead + Monoculture 1:50:01 Authority, Cults + Tentpole Events 1:56:20 Lakers being sold is barely news 1:59:54 Cocaine Frat Cowboys + Appealing for extremes 2:03:51 YouTube new policy + Speaking to normies 2:08:41 Art cuts through, Grass is greener + Culture flattened 2:16:18 Debating, Mamdani's list + Outside of capitalism 2:24:14 Breaking up monopolies + Prescriptions This episode is sponsored by Kalshi. This episode is sponsored by Sesh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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When you're swimming around, not you, but like when black people are swimming around white people,
is it like the same thing as like trying to speak French around the French?
Yo, we can swim.
I'm telling you, I think we beat this stereotype.
Maybe not the South, but the coastal blacks, we swim.
You know what you guys got to work on though?
Diving.
Here.
It's not.
It's not good.
I was like even thinking about myself, yeah, I could use.
work, too. Yeah, there's like a lot like
goes into it. It feels like too much thought
goes into it. But they invented new
diving. Have you seen when they do the parties and
everyone backflips in the pool? Oh, Memphis.
Oh, yeah. A Memphis slice? Yeah, the Memphis
slice, dude. Oh, is that in Memphis?
Yeah. Let me show you. Oh, well, that makes
sense because of the... I didn't even know Memphis
in that water. What is that street in Memphis that
they do the backflips down?
I've never heard of that. Beal? Is that
Beal Street? Yeah. And they like
basically do
like gymnastics down it. They just start
doing these flips.
Shut out to us.
You haven't seen the
The Beale Street flippers?
But like this shit right here
you guys invented new diving.
You fully clothed?
It's crazy.
No, this is just
Oh my God.
I mean,
that's awesome.
Yeah, that's a word for it.
That's awesome.
That's a word for.
That's what I'm saying.
You guys, there was a barrier in your way.
White people were controlling pool culture and you said,
no, watch this.
Watch this.
That's fine.
I hate that you found this, man.
It's not me.
It's not me, bro.
We, you know, we go do cannonball.
We go do belly flop.
The core screw.
We got some thing, the jack knife.
Yeah, the jack knife.
But like, fully cloth.
Now, Philly cloth is crazy with the shoe.
With the shoe.
It's crazy.
Like, you're in a little.
attending a pool party.
But can you break down the logic here?
No, this is fun. This does look like
a lot of fun. That's so much
fun. What's the logic, though?
You know, you got to
jump in and get to the wall quick.
It's quick, bro.
Because those breads
are going to wear you down.
Those are going to take you down
a couple feet. That's part
of it, too. Sliming his shoes is
It's impossible.
That's wild.
That's the other thing that we got to do.
It's like...
You know, that's progressive.
We're not caring that much about our sneakers anymore.
Or women being in the pool party.
Can you explain that part of it?
Nah, they did, they do.
Are they?
Nah, they did.
But like, you're scaring those, right?
They're not going to get wet if you're just doing backflips with your sneakers on in the pool.
That is very true.
That's great true.
Yeah.
I mean, and then there was this one.
Like, this does not happen at white pool parties.
This shit is fire. You saw this?
No, show me this one.
Ask.
Five million views.
Bang.
See?
See?
No one even asked her to do this.
She just busted this out.
Sue, I'm asking.
I mean, this is amazing.
Come on.
That's what I'm saying.
How'd you even get this more?
That's telling.
Oh, do you think she can't dive?
Watch this.
Come on now.
Look, she can't.
Come on now.
That's a beautiful.
No splash.
That's like all 10, though, not.
That's what I'm saying.
I want to see a full, like, Memphis diving competition.
I think that's what we need in the Olympics.
I think we need Memphis High Dive.
I think that's a new Olympic sport.
If you get the full backflip with the Jordans on.
Yo, our pool party's different, man.
How did we even get to this?
Oh, we were asking Al what he'd been up to.
And he was saying that the different...
Is what he wants the Dumbo pool to look like?
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, it is.
That's what it should look like.
Al's private member club that he's part of is
he's alleging is segregated in the city.
It's no longer.
And that's why I'm upset.
Oh!
So you're one of those.
Blacks were better off during segregation.
Because there was more room at the pool.
Nah, just let us thrive.
Leave us alone.
That was the best house.
And now they want to come to our house because it's the best house.
The best music.
It is.
The best of views.
There's a pool at the other one, too.
Then it's shit.
It's tiny.
I see.
It's tiny.
Yeah, like, they want some more rooms, some more space.
You know how they do?
Yeah, you can't jack in that pool.
Yeah, I get it.
So a couple tiny hats swimming there, too, you know?
Did that?
Were they?
No, I joke.
No, no.
Yeah, do they swim with the keeper?
That's an interesting question.
No.
They take it off.
They don't have a waterproof one?
You would think, right?
My gym is certain, I feel like it.
My gym has a pool and there's a lot of seeds there.
And they get in it without it.
Really?
Yeah.
Otherwise, you're clipping on.
It's just, yeah.
I mean, you think they get like a small swim cap.
Or just a swim cap.
Oh, that's the thing I saw on a flight.
I was telling Marcus, the captain of the pilot.
What are they called?
Pilot.
The, gosh.
The driver.
It's been a lot.
The air chauffeur.
Yeah.
So the pilot, I'm pretty sure, he had a toupee.
So he had fake hair, hairpiece.
And then he had a yarmica over the toupee.
Yes.
Yeah.
No.
Why?
Because.
You got to throw them off.
No, it's double.
But it's double.
Yeah.
The yamika is just covering your head for God.
But you're doing it with the toupee.
Tupe's already having the Yamagas performative.
Yeah.
That must have been a bad toupee if you can tell.
If the yarmica's covering half of the shit.
It's not covering half.
It's just the top part.
But the tupe you see right here.
You don't see back here.
Was it a bad toupee?
Oh, it's horrible.
You think he skimped out on it?
I thought something was off when I looked at it.
I was like, what exactly?
Something's weird about this guy.
And I was like, okay, yeah, it's a toupee.
And then I saw the yamika.
Are you saying you got like a cheap one?
Is that what you're saying?
Mark.
Mark.
Is that what you're inferencing?
Mark.
He's inferencing right now.
He can fucking fly himself to Turkey for free.
I don't trust that pilot, bro.
Yeah, that is a good point.
I don't trust that pilot.
He might have been a flight attendant.
Oh, okay.
But he was talking at the beginning of the flight.
Like, usually the pilot comes on and briefs everybody.
Okay.
Right?
No.
No?
Like safety briefing?
I assume if this...
You're on a plane every fucking week.
Can I tell you?
I assume if they're straight, they're the pilot.
If it's a man in their straight, I assume it's a pilot.
Sometimes it's...
they are flight attendants for whatever reason.
But if I assume, you're a man, you're straight, I assume
you're a pilot. So that's what I thought.
He could have been a flight attendant. That's fair. 100%.
That's fair. I miss the sexist
airlines.
Yeah, yeah. There still are sexes.
No.
They make them wear heels until the plane takes off.
Yeah.
But the heels are like this. Still, it's like
on your toes, bitch.
Like Delta.
On your toes, bitch.
The second they go up in the air, they get to.
They got to close the cat.
It helps.
It's a part of the job.
Exactly.
It gives them a little bit of a lift.
That is why they do it.
Yeah, 100%.
Not to see those tense calves walking through the wild.
Exactly.
There's too many dude flight attendants now.
They're mixing it up too much.
Well, yeah, the girls have Onlyfins.
The girls can get a job at a fucking bottle service or something like that.
That used to be a good job for a lady.
Like back in the day, before they were going to college.
Yeah.
Shit.
Before college was allowed.
Yeah, but women didn't really go to.
a college until recently.
Yeah.
And then it got really expensive for all of us.
Isn't that interesting?
Isn't that interesting how that happens?
Yeah, that's a good point. Did they hike up the prices?
Dude, nobody went to college back in the day.
It was like a big deal that I think my dad went to college.
Yeah.
What percentage of people went to college in like the 60s?
Let's find out.
It doesn't seem like very many, though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My mom was one of seven.
The only one went to college.
Only one went to college.
Yeah.
See?
And was that like an integration?
going to college. And was that like an integration thing? Like, how did that work?
Did the feds get called in?
Was it? No, no, no. It's probably fine, right? I told you this story where they called my dad and asked him
if it was okay if his roommate was black. No way. Yeah, my dad went to Kenyon College and they called
him. You're old. Suddenly they called him, no, it gets better. They called him. They're like,
were you okay if your roommate is black? And my dad was. And my dad was.
was like, yeah, I don't care.
I'm black.
And it turns out to be gay also.
Oh.
My dad's like, well, you didn't fucking tell me this.
This guy's getting his back blown out right next to me.
We're sharing a fucking dorm room.
Yeah, that is going to disrupt your life a little more.
Oh.
Yeah.
My boy Evan, his roommate, first year of college gay, and I went to visit him the first weekend of college.
Another dude in the room just getting rinsed.
No.
And I was like, yo, Ev, what are you going to do?
Because there's no way you're going to put up.
I'm sleeping on the fucking couch because his roommates just getting ripped apart.
Wait, was it like a single dorm where you shared beds in the same room?
It was like a, there was like three bedrooms in a area.
So like they all shared a kind of like living room area.
A bathroom and like a douching area.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, he was just getting ripped apart, man.
You just heard him getting torn up.
Just absolutely torn up, dude
This is crazy
You gotta put a sock in the door
Everyone was just sleep on the couch
Like getting cucked your first night
In college by your gay roommate
Who's just getting his shit fucking
Absolutely ripped in half
Dude, it was insanity
Yeah, that's a good introduction to college though
Yeah
Yeah, shout of SUNY new pulse
Shout out of SUNY new pulse
That's rare up there
No, it's lived up.
Really?
Every college
Yeah, all the
I figured New Paltz is a little grungier.
Newport's like granola.
Really?
Yeah.
All like upstate.
Upstate is like you're either the most like hippie liberal or just you're
it's maga fucking racist.
Like upstate New York is crazy.
They still got KKK up there.
No.
Like legit.
In New York?
Yeah.
Like way of state.
There's no way.
Yes.
How do you know this?
I was up there one time and I didn't see the whole this situation.
But there was like, fuck, what was it?
It was like a gathering and it was that.
And I was told it was that.
Was it possible you guys were doing corkscrews into the fucking communal pool?
And they just need to clean that up a little bit.
Okay?
Can you take your fucking shoes up before you do a corkscrew into our communal pool?
Yeah.
You think they letting us in the pool?
I think that'd be their dream.
Wait, they're doing it themselves.
Hold on.
But not.
They do have KKK up there.
And Portland.
How many KKK?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
But, like, do you think KKK is even, like, why are you hiding it, bro?
Like, at this point, if you KKK, you pussy, bro, because this white boy saying N word on fucking Twitch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, you just pussy.
But it's just a place to hang out with your boys.
And it's just like, all right.
That's our gang.
But imagine that was the-
Like, we got crips and bloods and blackie-kegay.
Yeah, but, like, imagine that was the only thing that you had in common with people.
Yeah, but they're not putting in no more work.
So it's just an excuse.
to get away from their wives and hang with the board.
Son, it was.
It's probably that.
What if that's what KKK was?
What if that was with KKK?
Wouldn't we forgive him a little bit?
What if they had like a meeting with the Black Panthers and the KKK,
that both them came together and they're like,
you're like, you're just getting away from your wife, too?
And you're like, all right, let's keep it up.
Let's keep it.
That was part of the rule.
No, fuck you guys.
You just see a wing.
Yeah.
They were like no blacks, no Jews, no wives.
No wives.
That's golf.
Like, golf courses just started letting women in.
And the Masters won.
Still, did they start?
No, they still don't let women in.
In Augusta?
See how much fun the black Israelites be having on the corner?
Come on.
Never a woman to rap.
They have so much fun.
That is a good point.
That's why when you walk by with your lady, they try and break you up so you can have some fun with them.
Bro.
They're trying to get you out.
It's a white devil out of here.
Come fuck with the gang.
They just having fun out there.
Yeah, that's a good point.
You're hooting hollering.
So you really said there was, yeah, you felt like a racist presence when you're up there.
Yeah. Really. But then also you know...
But I was, like, told by somebody I was with.
But there's also that, like, almost, like, performative, like, acceptance that's up there.
Like, the hippie shit.
Oh, yeah. That wasn't everywhere. It was just, like, one small area.
But, yeah. I've been to, like, Woodstock, and it's mad cool over there.
Super. Yeah. Super. Yeah.
Damn. I didn't realize we were still like that in New York.
What you have to, bro?
Bro, I was just doing that movie on the Vest Coast.
And that was cool.
That was cool.
Is it done?
I think I got to go back for one more day.
I think they're shooting this week.
Okay.
But I got to go back maybe for like one more day.
Got it.
Why did the makeup artists have to have to do you like that?
Oh, bro.
I send it to the thing.
This is so embarrassing.
So there's this makeup artist, Akiko, Japanese lady.
She's awesome.
And she just takes a little bit of the hook off my nose because I'm broken in so many times.
It's just protruding in one angle.
It looks like there's a fucking tree branch growing out of the side of my head before we show the public.
So she's off one day
And I show up one day
And there's a new makeup artist
And she's like
I'm just like all right
So you know
I don't know if Akiko told you how
You know she does my makeup or whatever
But like
And then she goes
Oh no no
She gave me a diagram of it
And I'm like okay
This is gonna be like a legit diagram
Like when you go to like a barbershop
There's different haircuts
Whatever
This is the image that she shows
It's a Picasso painting
You know
How is she making
Oh that's fat
Yeah she's like
He's a tiki head.
Yeah.
He's like a Hawaiian.
Like, he's an Easter Island.
Yeah.
They keep you freckles on your nose.
I don't know what was going on.
I didn't think I had freckles, but that hook right there is insane.
Like, that's not what I think I look like.
Yeah, I don't even understand what these.
The lines are highlights.
You know, the dashes.
He's an Asian lady.
Like, does she draw white people eyes?
Yeah.
A couple round eyes up in a little round circle.
Yeah.
You're doing some eyelashes.
That was nice.
I mean, I don't even understand what these dots are.
I'm just a Zulu warrior, dude.
Yeah, it's just insane.
So makeup can make it look straight?
They don't have to put like a prosthetic of some shit.
It's crazy.
I don't trust nobody's face anymore.
Like, I knew makeup could do shit.
But like, they literally just make things disappear on your face.
Yeah, you still like when girls do the fucking transformations with all the contour and shit like that.
They can look like completely different person.
And they just take certain like shit.
Like it's so funny because there's going to be some girls on the internet.
They're going to watch us talk about makeup right now.
And they're like, we've been tricking these dumb motherfuckers this whole time.
But like they'll like put like a white line.
White line.
You've seen that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you could take somebody with like a huge fucked up nose.
You know, not referencing me at all.
But like and like you could do it just based on like shading.
Just make it look like a normal nose.
Yeah.
Why would anybody get a no job?
Well...
You got to do that every day.
Yeah.
But they're going to put makeup on any day, every day anyway.
Yeah, but this also requires skill.
Akiko's a professional.
That is true.
You know, you got to, like, spend hours in there trying to shade it off.
That is true.
Also, I don't know if shade really affects the profile.
Damn, damn.
I'm just saying, shade is good head on.
He's like, I stay from side every head all day.
Bro, what are we talking about?
I was telling Mark that I got the fucking worst of both worlds
because I can't breathe out of my nose
so it's just big for no reason.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
If you got a big gas tank,
like it leads you could go for.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like I kind of mouth breathe.
Yeah, you got like the homer of noses.
Son, I'll wake up in the middle of the night
and my mouth will be wide open.
Like my wife is kind for not just fucking pranking the shit out of me.
Like I see those,
you ever see those videos where the guys like about to take the shot
and they throw a dildo on his mouth instead.
That's the position I sleep in.
Every night.
Wow.
He's vulnerable.
Every single night because I can't breathe out of my nose.
Your morning breath is probably the worst.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When you're a mouth free, it's bad.
You know the looks maxi community has a lot to say about this.
I know that they say you got a mu.
Yeah, you got a mu.
Yeah, you got a mouthtape.
Mouth tape.
If you mouth tape, you might die, though.
Yeah, I'll suffocate.
Honestly, I don't know if I'd be able to breathe.
Some doctor, when I broke my nose the last time on the fucking paddle racket,
they're like, yeah, you have like one nostril, you have maybe like 10% air goes in.
The other one, it's like 40%.
So I just go for the nose job, bro.
Like, you actually need it.
If I'm going to do it, I got to make it like fun.
So you're in movies now.
Wait, what do you mean make it fun for?
Like, I got to make it like Cindy Woohoo or whatever.
Cindy Lou Who.
Oh, yeah, yeah, go full woohoo.
From the Grinch.
Yeah, I got to go Whoo Wheel or something like that.
A little MJ piece?
You can go full MJ.
If you came out with MJ nose, I'd be fired.
What if I did like Adrian Brody?
Like, I just fucking hooked it to the side.
The fucking Cyclops in the Odyssey.
You can go something different.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just think airflow should be your priority.
Live show update.
I'm coming to eight clubs this fall to get the new hour ready, okay?
Here they are.
If there are tickets still available, you get them right now.
Stress Factory, September 11th and 12th.
That's in New Brunswick, New Jersey.
Houston Improv, September 18th and 19th.
Levity Live in West Niagara, New York, September 25th, 26.
Helium Comedy Club in Indianapolis, Indiana, October 23rd, 24th.
Stardome Comedy Club in Birmingham, Alabama, November 6th and 7th.
Hilarities in Cleveland, November 14th and 15.
Good Night's Comedy Club, December 4th and 5th in Riley, North Carolina,
the Funny Bone in Columbus, Ohio, December 11th, and 12th.
That's what we're doing.
That's what we're building this hour or two.
I cannot wait to see you guys there.
Grab the tickets if they're available, and we'll see you very soon.
I will also be on the road.
At the end of the year, October, I'll be in Plano, Texas, Chandler, Arizona, November.
I'll be in Pasoena, California, San Diego.
And in December, I will be in Detroit.
In January, I'll be in Salt Lake City.
Get tickets now, Mark Gagnon live, Alex.
And, guys, this Saturday is my last tennis clinic.
The All Love Club.com.
We have about 15 tickets left.
The last two sold out.
So I'll see you guys there.
Peace.
Would you guys ever do any surgery?
Any surgery?
I mean,
eh.
Would you lift your eyebrows up?
Wait, what do you mean?
I don't know.
Why would I need to do that?
I don't know.
Wait, is that a hairtray?
What does that mean?
This is how these plastic surgeons
get these dishes, bro.
They come in there asking for tities.
They're like,
or you can do anything about your lip?
They're like, I'm sorry, what?
And then they walk out of their $200,000 in debt.
Yeah, are you going to move your eyeballs up to like a normal,
like, I don't bring my hair line down.
I think if I bring my hair line down,
And then it'll cut in a half.
Why don't you do the bone breaking shit?
Just try to re-mold it a little bit.
It's like just so I don't protrude as much.
Yeah.
Break it a little bit.
No, but if you just pull your eyebrows up,
because right now your eyebrows sit underneath your forehead.
Yeah.
Like the ridge.
They sit underneath the ridge.
What if you made them add like, you know,
where they're supposed to be or whatever?
Do I look better here?
Do I look better?
You should draw it in.
All right.
Would you do anyhow?
I would do turkey once my shit starts.
to really go.
Can we see where it's at now?
Hell no.
I don't have a fresh cut.
He's got a long dress.
He looks like a Cambridge professor.
He does.
Why do you like that?
RIP, man.
We got some RIP.
I'm just saying you can look like someone.
It doesn't have to be sad.
Son.
Fuck, I wish I'd do a name right now.
You look like.
Painting.
Both of you guys.
RIP, both of you guys.
It's horrible.
We're laughing at this.
Thank you.
But Al, Al, can you just show us your
forehead so we can get back on track.
You won't even show your forehead?
No, it's like when I get a cut, then it's like,
they do something where it's like, it looks nice.
But when I don't have a cut, the hair lines is receding a little bit.
Can I just see it?
No.
This is a, no.
Wait, so when you get a cut, your hair lines is lower.
Put the camera angle on me.
Put the camera angle on you.
No, no, no, it's not happening.
Not.
Is it that?
Is it that, like, severe?
It's just, I don't like it.
I don't like it.
And what is it?
Because it's like, you have dreads,
and then it keeps pulling on your edges.
Oh, so you feel since you've had dreads,
your hair lines got worse.
It's called what?
Traction propitia.
You see Puerto Rican girls with this.
You'd be hanging out with niggas, you know?
Damn.
Damn.
I'm fucking bored.
What's it where you lose your hair?
Alopecia.
Alopecia.
My mom's a hairdresser.
Oh, okay.
So the Puerto Rican girls when we were younger had one hairstyle.
How?
The slick back?
The tight bun like you never imagined.
It was like a swimmer bun.
The Holland.
Holland, but it was so yanked,
and you would literally see from like freshman to senior,
their fucking hairline was like back here.
Then they would have to do the baby curls.
The baby hair you lay them.
You're laying down for a little gel with the toothbrush and shit like that.
Or the bangs.
Yeah.
I think that was cute.
I like that look.
Yeah.
I mean, you could do that.
Fuck you.
I'm saying lay your baby hairs down.
I got nails already.
I can't do it.
Come on.
Then I'm going to really look like that Cambridge professional.
Nails and baby hairs are smart.
Yeah, like, come on, that'd be awesome.
Even though this set is fire.
Yeah, it's like all different stuff, but this is like probably my most fire set.
Yeah.
Are you going to get the Infinity Stones for an Avengers Dims?
Probably.
Probably.
I need doing some theme shit sometimes.
I like it, man.
This is my shit.
I actually, let me take you back, actually.
Take me back.
I would, let me take your back.
I would consider Envisalon.
Does that count as a cosmetic procedure?
I don't think you should be allowed to get it.
Why?
Because you had braces already.
Yeah, I know, but I lost my retainer.
Yeah.
And then I didn't, this is how dumb I am?
I didn't know that I could go to any orthodontas to get another retainer.
Son, I know exactly what you're talking about.
I thought it was only one guy that had my file.
And I had to go back to Florida.
No.
And we don't have to go back to the same version.
No, it's in the ether.
All dent is.
know each other.
Bro, my girl got Envisaline in Barcelona, and then like something happened where they had to
re-scan it or whatever so she can get her next set.
Yeah.
And she's like, I got to go back to Barcelona.
And I thought that's a real thing.
I thought that's a real thing.
I thought it's a real thing.
I had invisible for that same thing.
And I kept calling my dentist, Dr. Moskowitz, or I think it's Moskowitz or something like that.
Sounds right.
Sounds right, right?
Have you ever met?
What's your dentist?
I don't know the names
You think that's what I'm asking
I'm saying
No I'm being dead serious
I was joking around Mark about this
But like what are the people that hate Israel do
When they got to get their teeth fix
Yeah
Because I've never seen a dentist that's not true
Yeah
I've never seen a single one
I don't even know what my dentist looks like
Yeah
Because I go to a place in a story
And all the dental assistants
Oh you got a fine-ass Puerto Rican
With her head back
She looks like Robocopy
Right, because she's 28 and that she's been slick back since she's 12 years old.
Pretty sure they all work up the block at the strip cook that we went to this.
Yeah, so both, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
That's how you graduate.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're paying for dental assistant school at the strip club.
And then they become a dental assistant.
Yeah.
And did you know the hustle with that?
No.
My boy told me this.
He was like, the dentist never tells you the price.
Oh, they upsole me so many times.
So it is like.
I got the waiting three times.
It's beneath the dentist because they're like,
They're a doctor.
They're a medical professional.
Money is for hygienists.
When you're at the hospital, the doctor doesn't give you the bill for like your ACL replacement.
Like, so what they do is they get the fine-ass girl to show you how much it's going to cost.
And then you don't think you can negotiate with attractive people.
You know how like when you talk?
You can negotiate?
Why not?
The fuck?
Who says this?
Son, I had to get an MRI.
Son, I did not know this.
I did not know.
This is how like we're so fucking.
Nah, this is real?
All medical procedures, you can just be like, nah.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, can I just, can I just tell you what?
I swear to God, this ain't fair.
Let me tell you, it's not fair because we are so, I don't know what it is about us.
I don't know if it's like a cultural attribute or whatever, but there's certain things we just think you can't negotiate.
Right?
And I don't know where this comes from, exactly.
But like, so I had to get MRI from my fucking Achilles or whatever.
And they were like, oh, it's going to be fucking.
$6,000 and I'm like, my friend's buddy, Jason's buddy was a doctor.
I was like, is this right? And he's like, he's like, no, no, just offer him like 600.
I said, sorry? I said, what do you mean offer them? They're like, yeah, yeah, me just, you know,
say what do you feel comfortable? I go, what do you mean?
They goes, yeah, I mean, if they're not busy, why wouldn't they just take that?
And I'm like, is this a real thing that you can do? I had no fucking clue that this was this
frivolous, the system. Oh, we are fucking it up for a lot.
feel right now. People think you can't negotiate
about cars.
No, cars.
But that one is good. I didn't know that.
Well, you're a dummy.
Well, it depends. If it's a dealer, then you feel like,
oh, this is just the price. You know what I mean?
MSRP. If it's a used car is different, but if it's a dealer,
I was in there with my wife and my wife is, again,
maybe it's this like Christian thing where it's just like,
I assume you're telling me the fair price and I'm going to pay that fair price because
why would you lie to me?
And the rules are the rules.
The rules are the rules. We're following your rules.
You go to a grocery store.
I'm not going to haggle with the catcher.
I'm not going to hang on a banana.
That's the cost of the banana.
But anyway, so we go in it.
And I had to have a talk with my wife prior, which is like, hey, I'm going to do the thing where we get it down.
Don't fucking be on their side.
You got to tell him.
You got to tell him that.
I'm kicking her under the table because she's going, oh, yeah, I feel like that's fair.
What is fair?
What is fair?
The guy's pretending to talk to his boss.
He's going in a let me just talk to my guy.
He walks in a room, talks to an Indian guy about who's winning a fucking baseball game.
comes back in, yeah, I think we can do something.
And I'm, like, trying to hammer this guy.
I'm hammering off of, like, $50 a month.
Like, I'm like, what do what?
At some point in time, it's not worth the hour that we're in there.
But why is it?
Why do we have that kind of, like, guilt about negotiation of price?
Why do you take dove?
Like, that come on.
I should have.
Could have got you that car for free.
They would have paid you.
That great Patrice joke about the phone.
I don't know.
Where he goes.
He goes, listen, my phone doesn't work.
I just want to get a new phone, right?
And he's like, oh, sorry, we can't do that.
And he's like, he's holding his wife back.
She's like a pit bull.
She's like barking.
He's like, I don't want to do this.
But like, he's like, this is why you need black women.
He goes, I don't want to just give me a new phone.
I'll take a refurbish.
That's fine.
That's all I need is a refurb.
And then he's like, no, we can't do it.
He goes, all right.
And he's like, I don't know, la, la, la.
I walked out of it.
They gave me a foot.
Like, whatever.
Yeah.
It was fucking brilliant joke.
But you can do this with medical procedures?
I did not know those things.
This is nuts.
Not only can you do with medical procedures, this is crazy.
If you don't pay your medical bills,
some company will buy your medical debt at a fraction of the price.
Like I didn't pay my medical bills when I was in fucking Bermuda once.
And they would call me nonstop from Bermuda.
And I was like, I ain't coming back to Bermuda.
Like, I'm good on that one.
And then eventually they called me and they were like,
hey your bill is you owe $5,000 something like that
but like we're willing to settle for a thousand bucks
And I said on the phone just randomly
I was like man I gave you 500 bucks
Just joking and they were like all right
All right we'll do it and then I paid it
And then I was like yo I got these motherfuckers
Dumbass Island motherfuckers
You put me over 500 no
They bought your debt for like 10 bucks
For a penny on the fucking dollar because they know
No one's ever going to pay it and they got me
For $490
$10. Yep. Wow. That is fascinating. This whole shit is negotiable and we're just walking through life trusting everybody to be honest. Wow.
So I got to do that. That was one thing I knew. I knew hospitals, they write off so much of the shit. Because like some people just, they understand they're not going to pay. And it's, you have to pay. It's not worth it. Yeah. So it's like hospital bills, that's one thing I know you didn't have to pay. I know you can haggle like the prices of shit. Well, you can haggle with the person who buys the debt. I don't know if you can haggle directly. But if you're going to be. I don't know if you can haggle directly. But if you're going to be. You can haggle directly. But if you're, but if you're going to you're, but if you're
going private if you're not going through your insurer.
And you're just getting an MRI or
just getting your knee done or getting a
fucking nose, whatever it is.
You can just say, hey, I'll do it for this amount.
And the doctor owns the practice.
So they can just go, okay, I'll do it for that.
And that's why they send the hot women in. Because you don't want
to look broke in front of a beautiful Dominican.
It's impossible
to negotiate price in front of an
attractive woman if you're not married.
Once you're married, it's fun.
It's great to
broke in front of a hot girl, you're never going to sleep with him.
But why is that?
In front of a dude, you could do it because they, you're like, you've got to empathize with you.
I think it's like the halo effect.
Like I feel bad putting them in a position where I think they're uncomfortable.
Like if an attractive woman is like, hey, it's this much.
I don't want to be like, ah, I can only do this much.
And then she has to be like, okay, well, let me go ask.
Then I feel bad.
I'm like, oh, I'm putting her in a spot where she's got to like tell them and she feels uncomfortable.
And I'm just like, oh, bless your heart, Mark.
That's the reason why they do it
No, all guys feel like
Like, yo, if we don't say the wrong thing
We might have a chance
With no matter how hot the girl in
You're trying to fuck out girls too?
No, I'm saying
You're trying to fuck hot girls?
You just can non-married
You're not married
What?
Yes, I'm sure, so
What?
What's the thing I am?
Engage and things.
I'm so single, you don't even
I'm the fake man that she is.
Miles, insert that thing.
What is he, domestic partnership?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you refer to her as your partner?
Gay ass? No, I call my wife already.
Thank goodness. I hate partner.
Yeah, when Europeans do that shit, shut up.
Yeah.
My partner.
Yeah, what is that?
And that's gay.
You're gay.
Yeah.
Because that's how gays used to be, because they weren't allowed to be out.
Yeah, yeah.
And also bride and groom and wife and husband are biblical terms.
fire.
I know that.
Wait, what?
Isn't that all biblical?
Isn't a marriage basically through the eyes of God
and a civil union and a partnership
is through the state?
So are you trying to say that gay shouldn't be able to get married
because of that?
Yeah.
Is that the position you're taking it right now
is because marriage is a biblical idea and concept
that they would be infringing on the
godly rights
in that covenant that we have with God
would never say that?
Yeah, I can't believe you say that.
Yeah, that is wow.
Are they, are they, what's a,
called being straight culture?
Appropriate?
Are they appropriating straight culture?
When gays get married, are they appropriating straight culture?
Damn.
That's a good way to look at it.
They're trying to bite our shit.
You kind of...
You kind of...
You're talking about...
Are you trying to say gays are appropriating straight culture by getting married?
I'm not religious, so I don't know if it's straight culture.
But are we appropriating gay culture when we bang them to not get them pregnant?
Also, yes.
Yeah, also...
And when we call them our partner?
And when we call them our partner, we're...
You're having sex with no kid and calling me your partner?
Yeah.
You are...
super gay. That's
the gay shit ever.
You might as well do a corkscrew
and through a pool with your fucking timberlids
on, dude.
Yo.
That was a gay party at Memphis, obviously.
No.
With all due respect.
Nah, that was fly.
I was fly.
That was fly.
Just impressive dudes in your backflips?
Yeah.
It's boys being boys, man.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.
But I am going to haggle.
I'm going to go in for Inviseline, and I'm going to haggle.
So you won in Viseline?
I think so.
My teeth are all shifting.
Let's see.
No, but that's what's cool now.
Now that everybody has the fake teeth, like, have you seen people online going like,
oh, Zendaya's smile is so beautiful because it's not perfect.
I haven't seen that.
But I need that, though.
That would gas me up.
Or I just go full, like, British guy and Abiza veneers.
Yeah, if I just go full of beef veneers.
I'll be honest.
It's not, if you're going to go through the pain, I have rubber bands in my mouth.
Wait, did you have braces?
No, I had Envisaline with the rubber bands.
Wow.
Yeah.
Do you still wear your dinner?
every once in my one.
I feel like my teeth are getting
a little fucked up.
I throw it in for like two days
and it's painful.
I wake up at like two in the morning
with a huge headache.
Mouth open.
Oh my God.
Just destroyed.
Retainer.
I didn't know it like goes back
to the original position.
I thought once you got braces
or whatever the fuck,
it's just like that's like,
that's like, I asked my fucking dentist
once I was like,
yo, put that bar behind my teeth
so they don't move back.
And this motherfucker
acting like he didn't know
what I was talking about.
Oh, because he wants you to come.
Because he knows I'm going to lose
that retainer.
he's going to have to print another one.
Yeah.
But I was like, you know the bar that goes behind your teeth
so they stay in that position, like a permanent retainer,
and he was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
Wow.
It's hilarious.
Crazy, right?
But then you got to floss with that, and you're never going to floss.
If you got the bar, you can't floss.
I don't floss.
You have the bar?
No, I just don't floss.
Okay.
I don't floss until enough builds up in the gaps in my teeth where there's no more gaps.
Ew.
And then I go, man, I got to start flossing because my teeth look too good.
Like I have a gap down here that's pretty significant
But once I can't see it
I'm like I gotta get in there with some twine bro
Because I just got food build up
I only floss if there's food in between
I don't like flossing
You definitely got floss because you got some fucking shark shit
Going on one side of it too
So when food gets stuck in there that's the only time
But I don't like flossing
Dude I think I got caught
I've never had a cavity
I never had any work done no nothing
Really
And I think part of it is because I don't floss
Okay that's there's no way that's true
Every time Al eats ever, he goes,
yeah,
my teeth are so good,
one of my baby teeth doesn't want to drop.
It's like, yo, I'm good in here.
So I got a full set plus a baby tooth.
The only baby out hasn't got rid of.
Didn't he once it keeps me careful?
Oh, yeah.
Like we get rid of it and you're like,
it keeps me young.
It keeps my childhood innocence.
You didn't want to just go four for four?
Yeah.
Why don't just yank that thing out of it?
bag drops, I think I'm going to be a savage after that.
In what way?
Right now, this keeps my childhood innocents.
Yeah.
I'm going to be a bad person.
And that's more expensive than the scoop.
Yeah, you're right.
They got to pay for that.
Yeah, there's no one to split that one with.
You can negotiate on those too, actually.
Really?
Yep.
No.
They got you out?
I just been getting got, right?
They got to.
Damn.
I'm $1,500 in a hole right now.
You want to Vizaline.
You would do imizaline.
But no plastic surgery.
No, I don't know.
And I, dude, the way these dentists work,
they kind of caught me in like a little fib, I think.
Okay.
Because I had a friend that's a dentist.
Right.
I was like, I'll do your invisible line.
I'll give you like a discount on it.
I was like, oh, that'd be cool.
And so I was going to go into Sear and she was like,
but you got to go to the dentist.
We were like, when was the last thing we went to the dentist?
I was like, I probably like six months ago.
It's probably been like, I thought it was really a year.
Turns out it was like two and a half.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
And so she was like, all right, no problem.
all of a sudden I get a call from her office,
and they go, hey, can you connect with your dentist?
We just got to check your records.
And I was like, you don't need to do that.
Just take my word for it.
And she was like, no, we just need to make sure
that there's no cavities or anything.
I was like, really?
And so then they're like, yeah, we need to do it.
I call the dentist and they're talking to each other
while I'm on the phone.
And they're like, yeah, Mark, we have your last thing
coming in like 2023.
God damn, Mark.
And I was like, no, I think I went to another spot,
maybe when I was somewhere else.
And they were like, we don't have any records of that.
If you could connect us with that dentist.
And I was like, just forget it, whatever.
I go in that day for an emergency cleaning
just because I didn't want my friend to see my mouth.
And so I went into the dentist and they cleaned it out.
And then I went into the orthodontas and they were like,
oh, when was the last time we were at the dentist?
I was like, oh, you know, like I said a couple months ago.
And they were like, this is freshly cleaned today.
Guns insane.
Floor-riding everywhere.
And I was like, yeah, I did go today.
And they were like, oh, really?
I thought you went recently.
I was like, I don't know what's going on anymore.
Just fucking give me the thing.
You got so much shame.
I truly do.
I'm shame about in my own mouth.
I didn't want people to see my darkness.
How often do you go to that just?
I stick to the every six-month situation.
My wife fucking forces me because she's absolutely grossed out.
Well, she's staring at them all that.
All day.
Just air.
Wide open.
It's bad.
But yeah, she just schedules something and then I go.
And they kind of upcharge you on the cavities.
Have you heard this before?
I never had a cavity.
And I still got all my wisdom teeth.
No, I don't.
I swear to God.
Sweat of God.
Got everything.
I never did anything.
They always say, oh, you should pull them.
You should do this.
I was like, I'm good.
Perfect.
I don't know.
I mean, it doesn't make sense that we need to remove them.
It doesn't make any sense.
Because what did people do back in the day?
They just were in pain forever?
I think the idea was like you would lose some teeth.
And then those would kind of like be like the off the bench.
Oh, it was like a backup.
Those are like the bullpen.
You know what I mean?
So the assumption was you're already going to have teeth fall out.
So we got some extras for you.
just going to push everything forward.
The closers.
The closers.
The lie they told me, it was like, oh, these teeth, we needed it to chew up bones and shit
like that.
And since we don't eat the way we don't need them anymore, and most likely it's going to grow
impacted.
But they just convince all yaw idiots that it's going to grow in impacted and then, boom, money,
money, money.
Yeah, same with tonsils.
Because my shit grew imperfect.
Remember how they were taking out everyone's tonsils?
Yeah.
Why would you take out of tonsil?
That's a white person.
What is the tonsil?
I don't even know.
I thought my shits were fucked up.
Why?
because they were hurting, bro.
Your tonsils?
Yeah.
I had, like, marks on them.
In your throat?
Yeah.
You could see them inflamed in the back of your throat if you open your mouth, right?
Are you hanging out with Evans' roommate?
How fucking you get a shit?
You had impacted tonsils, bro?
I have something.
I have marks on them or something.
I feel even uncomfortable saying it because I'm like, yeah, yeah.
I'm like, how is this going to be taking?
Like trauma?
No.
It was like.
Monkey Pox?
Yeah, I think it was something.
I don't know.
I opened up.
I was like, you don't look right back there.
And then I had to get on antibiotics, I'm pretty sure.
Yeah.
And did they try to get them taken out?
I was like, I think there was part of me, was like, well, is this going to happen again?
They're like, yeah.
And they're like, should we just get them out of here?
And then I just never went.
But most of my medical procedures are just from laziness or lack thereof are from laziness.
Just the idea of going through the fucking rigmar roll of like.
Yeah, you got to sit in a cold office.
Just schedule it.
It's the whole fucking day and then recovery.
It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's got to be a better way.
Yeah.
But then you don't want to have like an at-home dentist.
I don't trust that.
Why?
I don't know.
I feel like you need your tools in the sink and the whole thing.
Like if someone was like, oh yeah, I'll do an at-home visit.
I'd be like, I don't trust this.
Yeah, I agree.
A traveling dentist?
Yeah, with a little like, like the 1800s.
Yeah, you can't trust that.
All they do is just brush it and just look in a mirror and pick around a little bit.
They ain't really doing much.
Right?
It's just the fucking, uh,
3D scan that tells them, oh, you actually have something and then go to the more important
orthodontists to get it taken care.
Like, dentists don't really do shit.
Yo, but do orthodontas do shit anymore now that you can just get invisaline?
Like, you don't even need to go.
Like cavities and like all that type of shit.
Orthodontists don't do cavities.
They just do braces.
Dental servants.
Oh, whatever.
You do that kind of stuff.
But an actual dentist, they don't do shit.
They just clean.
No, dentists do.
They do the cavities.
Yeah.
They do the root canal.
I wouldn't know.
I never had it.
But even that, they upcharge you.
I went in, they were like, hey, there's like four teeth we might need to look at.
And then I went and talked to my orthodontist friend.
And they were like, no, this is.
They were like, go to this other person.
Yeah.
Because they were like, they're upcharging you.
It's like a mechanic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
They can just upcharge you on cavities.
That's fun.
You sound real libed out right now.
Yeah, you are.
You are saying they're pissing off.
Sound real DSA, dude.
They're pissing me off.
They're pissing me off.
They're pissing me off.
These medical professionals that are denying me coverage.
And I'm going to do something about it.
The dentist.
Yeah, exactly.
Free Luigi, bro.
You know, Mark texted the group.
He was like, I think it was you.
Wait, what?
Mark goes like, yo, it turns out Luigi said he did it.
Yeah.
Isn't there a video of him doing it?
Like, there was never any question.
Oh, you're on some like Tyler Robinson.
Yeah, you don't know.
Got it.
Okay.
Got it.
Got it.
Come on.
Who goes and sits at a McDonald's after you just killed a person?
Come on.
Also, who gets picked up by the first meal?
by the person at McDonald's.
That's what we need to check.
That whole thing. There's no way.
Wait, is there?
Are there like deniers of Luigi actually doing it?
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
That's a real thing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a whole documentary following the women that are in love with him, that are full-on
truthers that are like he's being framed.
Nah, it's not just women.
Yeah.
I mean, look, I think from the video, well, from the video, it's not clear exactly that it's him.
Yeah.
So there's some deniability.
This guy just eats up everything, but you tell him whatever.
I stopped eating.
I stopped eating at all.
Like, I tried to watch even a little, but go on, go on about it.
So like, there's deniability when you see the video and you're like, okay, well, it's a guy in a mask.
Like, is it actually him?
Yeah.
And then they pick him up at a McDonald's and they're like, well, the eyebrows don't really match.
So there was some deniability.
Got it.
But at least in my opinion, I was like, well, he probably did it.
Yeah.
But I assumed that they did some super illegal shit to try to find him in the McDonald's.
Yeah.
Oh, you think they fly.
They got those flock cameras?
They hit them with a little flocking.
And then they found him into McDonald's.
They were like, oh, yeah, the drive-thru lady
discovered that it was actually this guy.
I was like, there's no way.
When are they going to use flock for, like, good shit?
Well, I guess it depends on what side of this you're on.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
I'm just saying, like, it seems like we can use flock
to find some things that would make people feel good about it.
Yeah.
There's like child predators out here.
And I don't know if we're flocking them.
Yeah, Gideon is flocking.
Why don't we got Ginny on flocking them?
Why don't we just flock the child predators?
If the flock cameras are everywhere or child support, where's your baby daddy?
Right?
He's by crypto.
Why don't you flock?
Exactly.
Like, there are ways that you could get in the good graces of people who hate flock.
Yeah.
You just use it for people that are really bad that are going around.
If you got all the pedophiles and locked all them where they are based on the flock cameras,
it would probably buy you a week or two of flock.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It ain't that bad.
Yeah.
It's the same thing with AI.
Everybody hates AI until you could put your fucking medical bills in that shit and then find a way where you don't have to pay anything.
And then all of a sudden people start going, all right, man, Claudey.
These data centers are somewhat helpful.
Yeah.
Or like, like, forgetting like loans for college or something like that.
You put it all through Claude.
And then you find a way to get college almost free because there's government loans that exist and you didn't want to do all the paperwork for it.
And I love it.
It's mainly the younger generation that's.
like so anti-AI right now.
Wait until they get into the real workforce.
And then they're going to see.
Yeah, they're going to see how helpful it is.
The funny thing I always thought about that,
DASH, it was like, like, for fucking decades,
technological advancements just hollowed out parts of the country, right?
Like, if you were making cars in Detroit,
they outsource your shit.
Or, you know, factories got better and they completely outsided.
Like, your jobs are fucking done.
They told the coal miners learned to code or whatever it is.
And then the second, like, AI starts replacing white collar jobs and, like, graphic designers, all these kids are like, we got to stop AI.
Plumbers are going to be millionaires.
We got to fucking stop AI.
Like, the second it hits home all of a sudden, there's an online movement to completely shut down every fucking data center.
Yeah, they're telling coders like, you know, learn to weld.
Just learn to weld.
Just learn to weld.
But it is kind of funny.
Yeah.
Like, nobody gave a flying fuck when working class people are losing their job due to technological advancements for the last fucking 2,000 years.
New piece of technology comes out.
When the fucking typewriter came out, people are telling scribes,
hey, learn to fucking buy a typewriter.
Yeah, whatever.
The second it affects you.
Yeah.
Guys, we got to shut it down.
Yeah.
Got to shut it down.
I hope every plumber is a fucking trillionaire.
I hope every plumber is a fucking trillioner.
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It is crazy that Luigi was just like, yeah, I did it. And he's trying to do it to get out of the
state charge. Did you hear this? No, why is that?
I don't know all the technical details, but basically he's dealing with the federal charge and the state charge.
He's dealing with the federal charge right now.
The state charge comes in like two weeks.
The federal charge is just for stocking across state lines.
Yeah?
So if he pleads guilty to, hey, I shot this guy.
And they laid it out all inside his confession, like all the details.
Like I printed the gun with 3D printer.
I did this, I did this.
The way that I found the investor meeting, all that shit.
And then if he's able to confess to this, he just deals with the federal charge.
And then he can't be tried for the murder charge in the state.
because there's double jeopardy.
Why is the federal murder charge
less years? There's no federal murder.
The federal charge is just the
stalking. So he's like trying to
bring in this confession into the federal case
to then get out of the state case.
Why does he get like immunity if he
confesses within the...
You can't try him again for the same case
basically. But you're saying it's two different things
so it wouldn't be double jeopardy. I don't know how it works
but this is what his legal team is basically
calculated, that they're going to try to heal for
hey, double jeopardy. He's already confessed
in this federal case, this is already being dealt with at a federal level.
You can't try him at a state level.
No, he needs to be in jail forever.
Well, the federal case could carry a long sentence.
He needs to be, look like forever.
Forever.
No, I do.
Oh, life 15.
I think that we need to put more people in jail forever.
I don't even think it's just like if you've been doing,
if you've been gambling and doing parlays and having won one,
in like a five-year span,
I think that's life.
I don't think we can trust you to just exist.
I don't think we can trust you exist
as a normal person in society.
You got bad instincts.
Something's off in you.
Yeah, but if it's your money,
if you're not stealing from nobody,
that's fun.
It was his gun.
It was his gun.
It was his gun, bro.
It was his gun, you know.
Because, yeah, no, these are problems.
We got real problems.
Yeah, but Luigi had, like, back pain and shit.
That's what I'm saying,
If you threw out your back, you want to shoot somebody that day.
No, I know.
I've been having back issues since I was 20 years old.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
You got a lot from him.
Listen, his anger towards that person, the emotion of anger is accurate.
The action, you got to be, we got to put you away.
Because he's going to get angry as someone else.
It's not like that's the last time he's going to be angry.
Yeah.
It's more how you deal with the anger.
15.
Just giving me the like 15.
15.
What is he going to learn in 15?
Oh, he's going to get fucked.
He's a cutie.
Yeah, but that's going to tear his ass up.
But that's going to make the backpan worse.
Sure.
Or fix it.
That's all it took.
You never know.
Our medical system is broken.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The way he got in is he told he was emailing them trying to get like his medical thing covered.
They wouldn't email him back.
He was trying to give him the runaround.
And then he emails the investors and goes, hey, I have 50 billion.
I want to invest.
Can I pull up to the investor meeting?
And they were like, yeah, it's at this place at this time.
And that's how he found out about it.
They responded to him in like an hour.
And I think that that also fueled his anger.
He's like, you wouldn't talk to me about my medical issue, but as soon as I want to give you money, now all of a sudden.
Yeah.
And then that's how he pulled up.
And they 3D printed the gun.
That's the craziest part.
You could just 3D print a weapon.
Right?
Scary shit.
I don't even know if I believe that.
That's what his confession was.
They've been 3D printing guns forever now.
Where do you even do that?
Well, we can't see it here on this podcast.
I think we'd get in trouble.
But like I could buy a 3D printer and then I could just print a gun at my house?
Yes.
Man, damn.
Yes, you can.
Yes, you can.
I got to buy a whole new remote from my fucking TV because I lost my Samsung shit and I can print a gun.
I have to buy a whole new remote from Samsung, but I can't, I can't 3D print a gun.
You might be a 3D print your remote.
Yeah.
You might not be far off.
And I'm pretty sure you can download the Samsung app and just reuse your phone as a remote.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm trying to be off my phone.
Watching TV is the whole fucking tip.
Yeah, that is a good point.
Now, you really truly believe you can 3D print a gun.
Yeah.
Okay, can I 3D print a bazooka?
Probably.
Can I 3D print a nuclear weapon?
Maybe.
So what the fuck is a wrong way in?
What's up with all this dust?
Just 3D prints a nuclear weapon?
That's why we'd go in there, bro.
They had plastic deposits.
They had the plastic deposits the way to go get.
They need to be commended for maintaining their sense of humor throughout this, man.
That is like,
Is that not like a little bit impressive?
What, just that they're tweeting?
Just having a good time.
It's like, think about it.
Everybody that you know, like, in your crew,
all your cronies get fucking wiped out.
And then the next day, there's somebody on the team that's like,
all right, I'll take care of the memes.
And you're like, what do we do some with Legos?
Like, you guys cool with that?
Like, they're pitching shit.
How are you maintaining, like, we're going to win through fun
after everybody you know gets killed?
Yeah, it is pretty crazy.
They had to have like a creative writers meeting.
Yeah.
Like, look, yesterday, not a good day.
Yeah.
We lost 10 of our top guys.
Yeah.
Anyone have any takes?
Just go for like angles.
This is going to sound wild.
Lego.
Like that's, that happens.
That's a real meeting.
Yeah.
In Iran where that happens.
And they got to show it and be like, no, it actually does look like him, RIP, but it does.
Any notes?
The hair is the same.
Any notes?
Can you get Epstein in there?
Get Epstein in there.
See if that'll work.
That's good.
I think they're just still on a high because they thought they were going to, I
think they thought they were going to get like fucking obliterated.
Oh, so it's like skydiving.
Yeah, it's like Argentina versus Cape Verde or whatever.
It's like even if they lose it.
It's like, yo, we're good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're hype right now.
Interesting.
Yeah.
True.
I guess, you know, like kind of the essence of comedy.
Which is what?
Just these guys, just in the face of adversity, you've been like, yeah, we're still
going to have jokes.
Like, we need to get them.
That was the gay shit you ever said.
We need to get them on the pod.
Bring on the pod.
Bring on the pod.
Be like, yeah, where do you find your?
your creative spark.
Arrogachi?
We're going to be like Arrogachi.
Like, what's next?
What's next on the meme?
Yeah, exactly.
We need to do inside the actor's studio.
Like, where do you get your creative inspiration?
You know?
I think we bring it in there.
What's the update on that?
What are we doing over there?
Well, I think we just declared that we own it.
Trump came out with a map and he was like, it's ours.
Oh, yeah.
The straight is ours now.
Yeah, according to Trump's tweet.
So we got it.
So it's ours?
Yeah, so it's ours.
All right.
For now.
That seems good.
Yeah, it's good.
Now, even though it's ours, are they still blowing shit up on it?
Maybe.
I haven't seen it.
Yeah.
Shit is still not really passing through.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's ours, though.
But it's ours, it's ours, that's ours.
That's, yeah, yeah.
Take that.
Yeah.
It's your little Lego.
You thought your shit was yours.
It's ours now.
Yeah.
That's how you accommodate.
We leaving our guys stranded out there in his fucking boat with no supplies.
Broken bathroom.
Can you talk about knowing someone that's out there?
Or vaguely, yeah.
You can vaguely talk about that.
Because you know someone who might be out there.
I know a guy on a boat.
Oof.
Not this boat, but on a boat.
And what is the sentiment?
Is it, would you say it matches what the, has been written on that boat?
I think similar, maybe not to the same degree as the USS Lincoln.
But similar vibes where it's like, all right, time to go home.
This is a lot.
Yeah.
And it's a lot of like just kind of waiting.
Like at first it was like real intense where it was like, oh shit, everything's cracking off.
This is life or death.
Which is partially.
good because then like you're busy and you're doing stuff all day.
Yeah. But then partially scary because you're like,
you know, are we about to get fucking bombed? Yeah.
But now that things have kind of cooled down, it's sort of like in a stalemate,
it's like, all right, what are we doing? Like, can we go to port? Can we dock somewhere? Can we
get a Mai Tai? Like, what does that happen? They need to blow off some steam.
Yeah. Can't they just take them somewhere else to blow off some steam?
You would think, but now they're just stuck. They're like, now we've got to be on patrol.
We can't be docking in Dubai? But can't, can't they switch out the homies a little bit? Can't they
like throw another ship there, take some guys out,
put some new guys in? You would think.
But I guess they only got like three carriers, so they got
to patrol at all times. They got more men
than they have carriers, obviously. Can't they just reshuffle?
Yeah, then you've got to go back to America
the whole thing. Oh, no.
I'm not saying the ship goes back
to America. I'm saying another ship goes there
with all new men, and then they trade off.
So the carrier stays there.
That's a good idea. I can't be the only person that's
thought of it. There's no way. It seems
so simple. It's like, wait, why?
Haven't we there?
Give them a little break.
Yeah.
And normally they do, but I think this deployment's going long.
I think it was supposed to be like ending in like September, October,
and they pushed it back to like January.
Yeah.
So now they're just like, yeah, we'll go back in a year.
That shit's fucked up, though.
Post it up.
Like, these are our boys, man.
Come on.
All they want is a nuke.
That's it.
So let them have it.
It's a nuke.
It's like, yo.
Just give everybody.
Nobody uses them.
Yeah, why don't we put it on like Layaway?
You're like, hey, you're going to have a nuke.
We're going to keep it here.
And whenever you want it, you let us know.
We'll keep it in America.
Oh, yeah.
And then whenever you, it's yours.
It's got your name on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
How about we give them one?
Okay.
If they do use it, fuck.
Right?
But if they don't.
Or give them a nuke, fill it with soldiers.
That's, oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
Oh, honestly.
Honestly, this is good.
We gave you a nuke.
We got it.
We gave you a nuke.
Hands off.
That's it.
And then boom,
Elliot Page pops out.
10 of them.
It just starts terrorizing the nation.
I'm saying there's a other way.
Because they're too accepting of trans over there.
What, in Iran?
Yeah.
What do you mean?
Gay's illegal so you can be trans.
Word?
Yeah.
Are you sure about this?
Yeah, look it up.
It's a nice little loophole.
It's a loophole.
So you can't be gay, but.
if you want to be gay, you basically got to cut your dick off, which sucks even more.
But if you're trans, it's like kind of ideal.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
All right.
Wow.
Why don't we just give them a bomb that don't work?
But like all the bells and whistles, like it does work.
Like, it checks out if you check it.
So then it's like, ah, you got that.
And then if they try to use it, it's like, what's worst case scenario?
What's worst case scenario?
If they have a nuke, because that's what they want.
What's the worst?
Just give me the worst case scenario.
You mean best?
What's the what's the
Give me the worst case scenario
If they have a new
Give me the worst
The worst case?
The absolute worst case scenario
What if they come over here to America?
How are they going to get over here?
Fly?
We're not going to let that
Yeah
We're not going to let that
Let's just be honest
Okay
Okay so
Worst case scenario, go
I mean
You know
They could get one of our allies
With a nuke
That's not good
Okay so you're saying
It's a job
Yeah
Yeah
Like UAE or Saudi
Okay, they were saying they would drop it on UAE or Saudi.
Or one of our other allies.
Or one of our other allies.
Which would be bad.
Right, like Lebanon or something like that.
Or Jordan.
That would be terrible.
Got it, got it, got it.
Or, yeah, anyone.
Now, and then if it was another ally, don't you think that they would have good enough
intelligence to know it was going to happen and probably stop that before it happens?
You would hope.
Yeah.
All right.
So the national NEM.
Okay.
Right?
Yeah.
You're saying mutually assured.
Yeah.
Everyone gets a nuke.
And then we get that or moose open.
Yeah.
Because are you feeling that closed or moose?
Yes.
Are you feeling that economically?
Yeah, emotionally.
You're feeling it emotionally.
Because as New Yorkers, if you're not driving a lot,
you're not feeling the actual direct cost of goods going up.
You feel it cost of goods maybe at the grocery store.
But there's part of me it's like how much is that as directly related to the or moose
or how much is that as inflation?
I order out every day, so I wouldn't know.
Now you've got to pay that DoorDash.
Yeah.
So the way I do things.
Yeah, tell me what you do things.
So it's like they keep up in the fees.
Yeah.
And to me, fees is your tip.
Whoa.
If they up the fees, I'll load a tip.
I always balance out the fees and the tip 20%.
Okay, so if the company raises it,
then you say the guy that delivered it gets less.
but they're supposed to be giving him that.
Let me ask you guys a question.
They're supposed to be giving him.
I'm glad that we're talking about this.
Let me ask you a question.
Went to the bar the other day.
20% is still a lot.
At lunch.
Okay?
Going to have some lunch.
Went to the bar before lunch.
Order four drinks.
$94.
Checked out.
Fair.
Sometimes drinks are expensive.
Wine can be expensive.
Okay.
I'm ordering it at the bar.
What are you tipping?
Are you going 20%?
on that?
Is it a cocktail?
Sure.
I think it makes a difference.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
If they're just opening a beer, it's less money.
But like, there's not a, for a drink, it's a dollar or two.
Nah, they don't do that anymore.
It's 20%.
Maybe not 20, but there's no more the dollar per drink, like we used to do back in a day.
Not at a dive bar if you're just getting beers.
Like, if I bought two beers, I'd drop $2.
But this is the thing, a beer is $6.
Yeah.
So by dropping $2.
you're over 20%.
What I'm trying to say is the marginal difference of pouring a beer
versus pouring a glass of wine.
Like the work is no different.
Just the price of it is different, right?
So going 20%.
It's the same thing like if you order a $10,000 bottle of wine at a restaurant.
Are you tipping $2,000 on that?
I think you have to.
To me, that seems there's something off there.
Yeah.
Like there's such a disproportionate price of a thing versus the act.
Yeah, I saw the circulator on Twitter a little bit.
People were discussing.
Tell me.
where they were like, okay, let's say you bring 10 plates of food and a bottle of wine
throughout the entire course of a meal.
Yeah.
But if I buy the $10,000 bottle of wine and super expensive food,
I'm now paying you way more money on a 20% basis,
even though you're doing the same amount of plates and the same amount of wine.
Yeah.
So that's not fair.
It should just be a fixed rate based off the number of tasks.
I mean, if we were doing it based off the work, it would work in that way.
I accept when you go to a restaurant, you're going to have more expensive food.
Like, if I always over-tip a restaurant,
I'm all about I want service to make tons of money
I used to work in fuck a restaurant
my whole life I get it
You're sounding like a cheap fuck right now
But there's something about
Just going up to the bar and getting a drink
And then the
I never have thought 20% at the bar
It's a bar it was just like
A few bucks per drink that you're making
I think like a $5 tip
On a glass of wine pour is probably reasonable
At a bar
Yeah like if you're going to the bar
I think that like I even do that
with like DoorDash.
Bro, that's more than 20%.
Not DoorDash, you've got to pay more money.
They're out there in inclement weather.
But it depends on the weather.
If it's raining or snowing, then you go up.
So you're paying based on the weather.
A beautiful day, no tip?
No, a beautiful day, it's like, if it's close to me, five bucks.
That's less than 20%.
Yeah, but that guy's family
is now praying for inclement weather
so that you can feed them.
That guy is hoping it's raining just so we can feed his family.
Oh, no, no, no.
You're not going to make me feel bad.
am I adjusting and you only given $5 on like probably an $80 door?
But $80 door?
You ordered for you and your lady.
No, no, no, no.
It's just me alone.
The past two weeks has just been me alone.
It's a $20 thing, $5, bang, everyone's happy.
But then if it's raining, if it's raining, you go $10.
Out of guilt.
Out of appreciation that you're coming in the rain.
You know what I mean?
You're getting soaked.
You have to stand out of it.
You're probably doing less drives.
You've got to drive a little slower.
But if it's nice weather, you get one zipping around super fast.
$10,000 bottle of wine, you're tipping $2,000 on it.
It's the same exact move for them to uncork it with the $300 model.
Yeah, but you're rich, if you're buying the 10 grand wine, so 2G tip is nothing.
But it's still something.
No, the rich people over tip.
I think a $500 tip is like awesome on a $10,000 bottle of wine.
When you go out to do bottle service or whatever, right, like these people who do bottle service,
the bottle service chicks are making like this retarded amount of money.
Yeah.
But we all recognize it's retarded.
Like it's like a, like some glitch in the matrix, right?
Like, we're like, this doesn't make any sense, but because it's in the nightclub, whatever, these are the feet.
Like, and they bake it in already.
They don't even let you not to.
Yeah.
They go, this is because they know how absurd it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But those girls are also working against sexually harass all fucking day.
Like, they're actually doing something to get that.
They bake it in and they still ask, hey, there's a line for additional tips if you want to leave.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they do that.
That's like the fucking dentist shit.
It's like, I know.
How you go about zero on an additional tip line?
It's crazy.
But that's a bad Latita with a fat ass.
I put an arrow on that one to where the tip already is.
I can't just draw it out.
Yeah, see a bone.
Yeah, look at this one right here.
Oh, did you see the new shit?
I don't know if this is fake.
I probably is fake.
But the Chick-fil-A thing where it's like you order at the kiosk
and then if you don't tip, they change the price and make all the food more expensive.
That's crazy.
It's not. I saw it. They said it was a glitch and they patched it.
That's what they said. That's what they said.
They passed it due to pushback.
You've seen the coffee one that they figured out, right?
They figured out this a couple years ago, but this was brilliant.
What?
And I actually agree with this one.
But like, so back in the day, the first iteration of the iPad that just flips over,
it just had 10%, 15%, 20%, or whatever.
And now it's 20, 25, 30, whatever it is.
But it was a percent basis.
You order a cup of coffee, a cup of coffees, three, four, or five dollars.
Not if you're getting some fancy latte, just regular cup of coffee, right?
10% of $3.30.
They start realizing, yo, by doing this pay this way, shit, we're making less money than we used to make in tips when people would actually pay without.
Because you always just throw a dollar in the little cup jar or whatever it is.
So now what they do is if the order has a tip that will be less than a dollar, they adjust it to one, two, or three.
And then if it's more than a dollar, it's percentage.
Yeah, that's clever.
That's clever.
I mean, Miles had a funny moment going to get coffee with one of our friends.
What happened?
One of our friends that might be an unreaded of true tide and might not be.
Went to a coffee shop that's new and very nice.
And everything in it would make that friend very excited and happy.
Ordered a cold brew, tipped, and then was handed a cup of ice.
and then you walk over and fill up your own cold group.
Oh, that's wild.
Our friend had a bit of a connific.
Just holding a cup of ice going, nope.
What?
Nope.
Then I think our friend asked if they do refills.
Like, oh, I can get refills.
The person goes, no.
And just short-circuited that poor little brain.
So then what happened?
Did he ask for his money back?
No, he just, next time.
He's a real next time kind of guy.
Oh, so I was like, yeah.
Siloly stupid.
He got to win.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
He got got, but he'll never get God again ever from that place.
Wow.
That is crazy.
You fill up your own cold brew and they're going to make you tip.
That's a little.
Now we're being egregious.
This is like self-checkout.
It's too much.
Do you guys do that self-checkout?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like the self-checkout.
But I don't do food chaventers.
It's like CVS, like those small places.
Yeah, they just get out of there.
Yeah, I got no issue with that.
Yo, at JFK, I went to that Dunkin.
And you know the Dunkin at JFK where your bags are?
They had the screens up where you put the order in.
It was the same amount of motherfuckers working there.
So I'm like, let me just order through you.
Like it was no different.
You think if it screens, it's one person making coffee and just screens.
It was three screens.
There's still someone behind the screen.
Instead of saying it to the Indian woman, we're just typing it on the screen.
And then she's just saying, oh, go make this coffee.
Like, in no way was it more efficient.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm like, what's going on here?
I'm assuming the airport's like, you're already there.
Also, all the Duncans are owned by an Indian family.
Yeah.
They're not going to hire less of their kids.
How does this help anybody?
Right?
These are like mom and pop shops.
But the corporate came through, they're like, hey, we're going screens.
And they're like, nope, we're going, my five kids.
Yeah, it's like, my family's working here and I have to pay them no matter what.
So let me just take the fucking order.
Yeah.
They're hiring their other engineer kids to make the fucking screens.
Oh, that's fair.
Okay, that's fair.
So it is full cycle.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And that's smart.
But yeah, that's the worst ducking donuts.
I don't know why.
But everything you get there, the donuts are always stale as fuck.
The coffee is fucking burnt and shit.
They also show you the food too much.
Like, block it out a little bit, bro.
Like, you order the sandwich over here.
When you're waiting for your coffee, you could see into the little drawers that they got the patties and the eggs in.
And you're like, keep it.
bro. I like it. I know what I'm ordering
when I order at Duncan, but I don't want to see it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like a butcher.
Hide it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, put it behind.
Yeah. It kind of grows you out.
At least a butcher, the animal's real.
But when you see, like, little slides of eggs that have been just frozen and cooked somewhere else.
In a file cabinet?
Yeah, and then some dude with his fucking nails picking one out.
Get the fuck out of here. I don't want to see that.
Come off a red-eye flight from L.A.
And I got to see an any guy grabbing a fucking handful of egg whites and throwing.
and throwing them on
like a biscuit?
Yeah, I don't feel super booge
but there's things that happen
sometimes
that do make me uncomfortable
Is that bushy for me to say?
Yes, it is.
You go to fucking Dunkin' Donuts.
They've always served it like that for
it.
I'm asking for this, Al.
That's bougie to ask
to just not see a guy's fingernails
dig into my egg weight?
Yes.
I'm bougie, I guess.
Oh, no.
I change.
No, it's not boogey to ask.
I'd rather, no protected, so then you're not seeing when they drop it on the floor, pick it back up, and put it back in your shit.
Because you know that's going on at Duggettodas.
They ain't wasted nothing there.
You know that's happening.
So I'd rather see the shit.
Me and Miles were sitting at a bagel spot and a guy at a restaurant down the way, he, like, dropped a whole container, like a bucket of lettuce or something.
Or like beans or some shit.
And he's like, oh, shit, I dropped it.
It goes inside and we're like, oh, man, poor guy, he dropped it.
And then he comes back out, starts scooping it up, putting it.
back into the bucket.
Oh.
And you don't want to see that.
And Miles and I look at each other.
And I know not to go back to that.
But there's only one place for coffee in JFK.
I know.
I'm getting the coffee.
No, it's possible the guy threw it away.
But we were looking at each other like, you don't think.
You wouldn't, right?
You don't think he's, no.
Right?
But you never know.
Nah, what place is this?
I can't go back there.
It was on like the Upper West Side.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
But he's just scooping it up.
We're like, oh, man, I don't know.
If I can't do an Upper West Side.
We did City Streets.
Summer Streets.
whatever, summer streets.
Oh, okay, okay.
What's that about?
They block off a street and cause insane traffic so that people can run in roller skate.
Fucking retarded.
It's the most retarded thing.
It's so sick.
They should do it more.
They do it all over Europe.
They split the city in half.
So if you're trying to go east to west or west to east, it's impossible.
Guys, guys.
Just so these motherfuckers, oh, I can walk on a street today.
And rollerblade.
You can do that everywhere.
You got the west side highway.
You got the fucking FDR.
Like, go there.
New York, we really trying to accommodate.
people who come here to enjoy their life.
This is not to be enjoyed.
You come here for your dreams and aspirations.
And you're supposed to suffer.
And you're supposed to suffer.
We live on top and next to each other.
Suffering is part of the culture of the city.
It's what makes us funny.
It's what makes us interesting.
It's what makes it have strong opinions.
There's no, like, walk down the street.
And I remember they would try to do these little fucking parades or whatever,
where they, like, it's just a bunch of empanada stands.
You know, like in a rapist stance or whatever like that.
It ain't even authentic.
Yeah, I know.
It's not.
No matter what one, it is.
Like, this is the, this is the village, whatever.
It's the same stand you get at the upper recess.
So we're not even having an authentic cultural experience here.
They're doing it for them.
But these fucking transplants.
I know what we're doing, we're doing too much of that.
Also, stop it with the potholes.
Wait.
Hold on.
We need more pahos.
We need more pahos.
I kind of like Zohran with this whole situation.
People are opposed to shit and that it's fixed the next day.
That's kind of fire.
It's the most.
low level bullshit, but it's kind of fire.
Stub your toe on a fucking pothole, bro.
That's a right of passage.
It's a right of passage to be taking your bike
and fall into a bottle on every entire band.
This is what makes New York, New York.
New York's not going to be in another to complain about.
I also got a different opinion.
If you're born and raised here,
or if you move here as a child against your will,
meaning your family took you here,
the rent freeze can be applied to you.
I like this.
If you moved here as an adult.
I like this.
Knowing New York is expensive
I love this. Knowing New York
rent is absolutely crazy.
You don't get to have a
frozen rents. You chose
to be here. It should be like universities.
If you move to China
and go, it's too many Chinese people.
Do you think they give a fuck?
Do you know what I mean? If you move
to Japan and you're like, it's all these sushi restaurants,
do they change that for you?
No, but if you're a child that was
moved here at seven years old and you have to
endure this price and this expensive
shit because so many other people come. Okay, then maybe
we can work something for you. Yeah. But you don't get
you just move here and then one year later go,
oh, my rent's going up and then we've got to, oh,
let's accommodate that. But how do you prove it? So how do you
prove that someone's been here for the right amount of time?
This is very simple. Were you here before
you're 18? But so someone's born
here, they live here until they're five. They moved Florida.
Yeah. They turn 20. They move back.
Yeah. Did they get it? No, they should be put in jail.
Yeah. I think everybody moves here.
You should get a tattoo of a number put on you.
Oh, wait. Hold on. That sounds familiar.
No, you know what I would say?
What I would say, I think there's so few people that were just like anchor-babied in New York is what you're talking about.
There's so few that they get to rock with it.
Really?
Yeah, they get fine.
I'll deal with that.
I'll deal with that.
But if you move here, if you move here, like to the city that you know is the most expensive city in the world, then you're like, oh, it's so expensive.
It's like, yeah, motherfucker.
If you moved here after high school, you get no New York privilege.
No New York privilege.
No New York privilege.
Zero.
This is only for the people that weren't, didn't have a choice.
Yeah.
They don't know any bad.
People who grow up in New York, you think they could just move to the farm?
What are they going to do there?
You think New Yorkers can just go live in a suburb?
They'll go fucking crazy.
But then you have people stuck here when some of those people maybe need to leave.
Who is they?
You know, someone's born here.
They're like, I don't really like it, but my rent is cheap, so I'm just going to stick around.
And then you're stopping some great creative from coming from out of town that's going to come in and bring vital to the city.
Nothing is stopping them.
It was expensive.
People will come.
They'll find a way.
Yeah.
Brooklyn, it looks like Brooklyn now because of that.
Yep.
Yeah, really ruined and broken up.
I'm sorry.
I know you guys love it.
Why is it ruining?
That's the other thing.
Why is it ruining?
It's just taking all the character out of it.
Like, fucking Williamsburg looks like a bootlegs soho now.
Like, they got high-end stores in Williamsburg.
Yeah.
And that's ruined.
Yeah, it's like the character's out of Brooklyn.
Brooklyn's not that.
Go to Manhattan for that shit.
It was a warehouse
There was no culture
Yeah, I don't know if it's ruined
That was culture
I don't know
That was culture
I'm not gonna lie
It's greatly improved
Yeah I think it's fire
It's greatly
You've seen a picture of Williamsburg
Before
Oh my God
We used to drive through it
It's greatly improved
I don't like it
A
It's just
It's no character
Hey
No character
It's nice
It's fun
You could live there
It's like it works
You got men and women
With the same length hair
Like it's
That's supposed to be
Williamsburg is so much bad.
As a matter of fact, most parts of Brooklyn are so much better.
Did you see that little block party in bedstye?
Yes, but that's real.
White guys twirking?
I didn't see the white guy.
You didn't see this one?
Go look at. That's real New York.
Like, that's where I still go.
No, no. What I'm saying is they turn bedside and so Williamsburg.
Wait a minute.
I didn't see the thing used.
The issue.
The block parties that they have like.
I get the idea where it's like if you had a community and a culture that exists
in a neighborhood and then the transplants come in and they like, you know, make it all
fucking like hipster and white.
I get that. But like, why are we
going to pretend like Williamsburg? There was
no like thriving culture and community
in Williamsburg. It was like the Hasidic
Jews had their little area and then outside
that nobody even went to Williams. Puerto Ricans.
Puerto Ricans were further. Puerto Ricans were by like Grand Street.
Yeah, there are South Williamsburg. It's more south.
It's not like on, what is that? North Six.
Like this, yeah, we're making the same point. North
Six was like not really like a...
None of us went over there, bro. Let's be honest.
I went over there. When I was in college, I was
away. When I was in college,
I was going to go to me. You should, you, you
you, you just can't get your rent frozen.
I was, you're from Far Rock.
Yeah. You're from Far Rock, bro. You can't get
your rent frozen. What you mean? You can't get
your rent frozen. How's Far Rock? Not New York. You can't
get your rent frozen. You can't get your rent frozen.
Yeah. If you were swimming,
he's basically from Florida. He's basically from Florida.
Don't get your rent frozen.
John, I was swimming next to fucking needles
and shit floating in the water.
It was dirty back in a day.
Also, here's the other thing. It's like, that's New York.
experience right there.
It is the most New York beach.
I will give you that.
It is New York is fuck.
Dodging syringes.
No, it is.
Coney Island is a New York-ass beach.
Because you never see
people that close to the sand that
are dressed and not prepare for sand
at all. Like, they didn't know the beach beach.
Bro. Yeah. Like, the sand is
right there. Yeah. And they're
not going in. You know what I mean?
It's two different worlds.
And then you see families not
prepared for the beach, but all their kids
and they underwear fully in the water.
That's crazy.
That's a straight underwear.
Like the beach happened to them.
Yeah, yeah.
Like tidy witties.
Yeah, I'm trying to think like that, what is it, Greenpoint?
Yeah, Polish.
That little Polish area?
Greenpoint is so much better.
Wait, compared to what?
It's white on white crime, so maybe people don't care about it as much,
but they didn't prove the fuck out of Greenpoint.
Greenpoint was stunk back in the dead.
The gentrifiers fixing up the Polish spot.
They fucking, oh, immaculate.
Amazing job.
I wish they just like
sprinkled them in
like just change it a little bit
but don't like fully
converted
this is where the gentrifiers went wrong
when gentrifiers gentrify
white areas
they would do
nobody cares
true
you know what I mean
so if they just did that shit
to Greenpoint where it was all Polish
or like the Italians
or where was that over in like
Bay Ridge or some shit like that
nobody would really trip about it
is when they went into bedside
they went to like Flatbook
they went to.
Trying to think of other...
What's the other point?
Fort Green.
Yeah.
That's when you start
getting into some cultural issues.
But from a genderfire,
it feels racist to be like,
hey, I'm only moving
where the white people are.
Because then it's like,
why don't you just live
in a black community?
And like, oh,
I only want to gentrify
the white areas.
And it's like...
Yeah, but then you move into
a black area
and then just make it all white.
Oh, you know.
You got to open a small business.
You got to open a cupcake shop.
Yeah, do it to them motherfuckers, man.
But I do appreciate the transplants.
I'm not hating on all of you guys, but it is, the city has changed quite a bit.
But the city changes.
That's the other thing.
It's like, that's the nature of New York.
But Manhattan doesn't.
Yeah, my neighborhood growing up changed four times over.
Manhattan still has solid areas where it's very diverse.
Like you have those.
But Manhattan's always been diverse because everybody got to come there for their job.
Yeah, but Brooklyn is slowly like the white wave is coming.
Do you know why?
Because there's jobs there now.
when we were growing up everybody was just coming to New York to work
like if you had like a job that paid
you were coming to the city you were working in Midtown
or you're working downtown
I think a lot of people work from home now
so now it's like well if I'm working from home
or I'm just chilling I want to have a nice little cafe I can go to
I want to have a nice little back in a day happy hour
was in Midtown
now all those fucking Midtown bars are hollowed out
nobody's going to them shits anymore
all those like corporate steakhouses
that used to remember we were young
It was like, I'm trying to think.
There was like spots in Midtown where
Keynes or whatever. Yeah, like a
Smith and Wollinsky and like
these like iconic restaurants that you would just go
to these like boozy ass like business lunches.
18 steps or some shit like the one. It was like four
floors and it was just like an after work
party. They would let it rip.
These guys weren't going home.
You know, you were like plotting global wars for
fucking eight hours a day. You got to
watch that down with a couple martinis.
Exactly. You got to bail out the bankers in 2008.
You can't do it at home. Now you're at home. Now you're
working in Brooklyn or you working in fucking Queens or whatever
like that. Now you want a place to go eat afterwards.
So naturally. Yeah. That's why all
the fucking 24-hour restaurants that
remember in Manhattan when we were growing up, every
diner was 24 hours. Yeah, that's such a shame.
It's hard to find a 24-hour dining. Because the kids
can't afford to live here anymore.
And the dock workers all left.
The dock, yeah, but the dock workers, that's
like a 60s thing. I know.
I'm saying that triple shift. There was always someone
that wanted breakfast. You're 100% right.
Three shifts of eight hours. You were breakfast at
some point. Like Tribeca was all dock workers.
Yeah.
Like it was all, there was like bars and shit, super working class.
Louis Williamsburg back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got to bring back the dock workers.
I mean, you can't have the West Side Highway and dock workers.
Yeah.
They all stranded on the fucking Lincoln right now.
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So what's going on?
What else is Mom Donnie doing?
I mean, he's fixing up potholes.
He's going to arrest Netanyahu.
He's really in the perfect position politically.
He's good.
You can see how good he is when you hear the other people
that are part of the DSA talk.
Oh, and they're not.
Yeah.
And they just sound retarded.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, you could see how polished he is because he can articulate the ideas in a way where you're like, ooh, this kind of makes sense.
And you care of.
And then you see one of these chicks who's like, 300 pounds overweight with purple hair and an interview.
And she's just like, yeah, I think we just got to like get real white people.
You know, like, I don't think white people should be able to rent a place.
I mean, he's busting out perfect Chinese.
Yeah, but when I do that, I can't perform in fucking Toronto.
You know what I mean?
He's not saying shit.
You don't think he's speaking fucking Mandarin?
They love Mom Dani so much.
He could just go and do that shit.
And people are like, oh no, we actually speaks Mandarin.
He's faking it.
That's fake.
There's no way he's actually speaking Chinese.
And none of y'all will ask a Chinese person about it.
He'll show.
He'll make.
He's hitting that shit, bro.
He sounds good.
But none of us speak enough Chinese to know.
I think it checks out.
It checks out.
There's no way.
The inflection is nice.
He's nice with it, bro.
No, he's nice.
What's interesting is like, it's like he's, all right, he has to work.
For the online pundits, he has to work because he's the closest example of what they think
is the way that city should be run, right?
Like, he is their ideology.
For the online pundits, I'm talking about like the people.
people existing in the online creator space.
So they'll never criticize him because he is their ideology projected on the most important
city in the world.
Right?
So they got to be like, yo, he's clean the potholes.
But he's also doing a good job not having anything to criticize.
Well, what I would say is that if he was.
What I would say is if he was a moderate Democrat and he was doing clean a potholes,
like if it was, I mean, fuck Cuomo.
But if it was Cuomo who won and he was.
closing up potholes, they'd be like, how to fuck,
you can't spend your time closing up potholes
when people can't even fucking eat?
You're going to spend the time closing potholes
where people can't afford rent.
You can spend the time closing up, you know what I mean?
Like, what they would, the criticism
would be about what he's not doing.
Yeah.
But because he's the perfect representation
of their ideology,
they have to support
everything he does and then give no criticism.
But on the service, he is trying to do,
or at least like optically doing those things.
What I would say is,
seem like he's doing like, yo, you want food?
I got a grocery store. You want rent freeze? I'm freezing the rent.
Like, and whether or not it's working or not.
What I would say is the reason we don't hear the criticism of it is because the online
pundits that make their money criticizing can't because he's the representation of their
ideology.
I see what you're just saying, but I think he doesn't receive that much criticism because
he's actually doing so much.
He's like he's, or he does a great job of making it look like he does a lot.
Yes, but if you check every box, where can you criticize up?
If, yes, I, but again, it's like, are the things actually being done?
Like, it was like, I think this last year was like the largest rent increase in, you know, the last decade or something like that.
And it's like, we all knew this was going to happen because when you freeze the rents, then the rents that cannot be frozen, which are half of the fucking units in the city, those are now the only rents that is just in the free market.
So naturally those rents are going to spike.
Like, we knew this.
Anybody that like, he ain't run on that.
He ran on, I'm a freeze the rent.
And he got the rest for me.
So I guess it, which makes perfect sense.
And it's why it's like if we're just objectively looking at it and going like this is really like smart politics, it's great.
But you don't hear any pushback about it because the people that would push back against a more moderate dem can't really say anything about it.
They're not going to look at it and be like, well, this project actually isn't helping half the people and making half the people shit even more expensive.
Right.
Like, oh, look the other way.
He's also so popular.
We don't want to go against him from inside the party.
Well, definitely.
Well, the party for sure.
But where you hear rhetoric is on Twitter.
Where you hear rhetoric is on YouTube.
Yeah, the New York Post is.
The right wing, of course.
But the right wing would go after a moderate time too.
Right.
Matter of fact, I think the right wing isn't going after him so hard.
It's because they want it.
The only chance anybody on the right has to win an election after the fucking
abomination of what Trump is doing is that if progressive take power and they go,
they hate America.
Like that's the only, what else could they run on?
I mean, it's still a toss-up, but there's places where they're getting some wins.
Like, progressives, these fucking socialist Democrats are getting wins.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what right-wing people want.
To beat out a Republican?
They want the Democratic Party to be the DSA.
Because the only chance they have to win is to go, we're not communists.
And they are.
They hate America, we don't.
Because they can't run on anything they've done.
done. Yeah, it's been a shit show. Right? Like, what are you going to possibly run on?
I agree with you. So I think that, I think they're kind of like looking the other way going,
yeah, let them become more extreme. Take the reins and then hope that they eff it up.
And then they're just looking through everything they've ever said and then come around election
scene, you're going to vote for the guy that said. Yeah. America's horrible.
That's a risky play, though, because like, as long as you have Mumdani being the spokesperson for
that and if he looks like he's doing a good job, now it's going to be like, oh shit,
People are going to be more on board for this socialist Democrat stuff because if they're all
going to be like Mom Dani, I might be on board for that.
Yeah.
Like it's not, it's no longer the boogeyman socialist.
And Mom Dany's not really, he's not really tripping up either.
No, he's not.
He's done a water fountain.
Here's 10 waterfound.
This is.
But look how easy it is for us to be like.
Bro.
It is easy.
Yeah.
But look how easy it is for him to do that and no other politicians are doing that easy shit.
So this is, this is the conversation, which is like, there's an art to pop.
politics. And sometimes you don't actually have to make change. You have to make people feel like
you're making change. Exactly. Americans, New Yorkers never really care about potholes.
Like, it's something that we joke around about, but like, we take the subway.
You know what I mean? Like, how many New Yorkers are really driving? I'm from far, I care about it.
How many voters in New York have a car? You know what I mean? I would imagine like the majority
of New Yorkers don't have cars. You know what I mean? It's like when you bring flowers home
for your girl. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, you're
thinking of me. Exactly.
That is exactly it. And that's what he's
masterful at. And, uh, but yeah,
it is, we are in an interesting
situation where it's like, say again? He's done some stuff.
Like, he's done the Peter,
period to tear tax. I don't know how to say it.
He had to tear. But even that shit is like...
And like the rent increase, I think, is actually,
and I'm not trying to like cap for the boy or whatever,
but like, but didn't they take brokers fees away
under Adams? And they said that would increase rent
in 2026.
I'm not defending Adams.
No, no, I'm just saying rent going up this year, I think, was sort of like a projected idea.
It will continue to go up.
As more people move back in the city and, like, people can't work up from home.
And, you know, like, it's New York at the end of the day.
I also think it's who you surround yourself by.
I think you're around a lot of wealthy people who the things Mimdani is doing.
It doesn't necessarily benefit them.
And, like, everybody I talk to loves everything that's happened.
I don't hear any pushbacks.
So it's like if the majority is happy, then he's doing a fucking fantastic job.
Sure.
If the minority is upset, it's like, eh, that's going to happen.
Yeah.
But you can't make everybody happy.
For sure.
The question I'm not, I'm saying is more like, is this actually going to positively impact
people's lives or is it flowers?
Giving your girl flowers doesn't really change your relationship.
It doesn't change the struggles that you guys have or the dynamics that you got to change.
But in that moment, it makes you feel good that that person is thinking about you.
Yeah, but isn't it positively impacting their lives if all these people are on bikes and now they don't have to worry about potholes?
Yeah.
Or if they're playing at the park and they're fucking about to die from heat stroke and it's like, oh shit, we got water?
Like, that shit is impacting their lives.
Oh, yeah, I think it does.
In a way that they feel it immediately.
I just don't think that that's most New Yorkers' concerns.
Like, if you ask New Yorkers, their list of concerns.
This rent freeze, a lot of people are happy about it.
Right, but again, now half of those people that you're talking about, don't feel it.
And they actually feel rent increase.
So the pain, you could argue, is the same.
Because while these people have no pain, now these people are feeling the pain that those people felt and more.
But isn't it only people looking for apartments?
Because if you're already in your apartment, you're not going to have a rent increase.
Like you already signed your lease.
Yeah, but you have a rent increase every year according to your lease.
three or five percent.
Oh, yeah, if you signed a one year.
But like some, like I signed two-year leases just because it's like I like to lock my share.
And they can increase it up to three to five percent a year.
Yeah, but not within the lease agreement.
Yeah.
Oh, well, they've never done that to me.
I thought like once you're locked in, that's your price.
No, you're locked in for an amount of time that you have that place.
Yeah.
And then they can't increase your rent more than three to five percent.
And then after that lease goes up, they can adjust it or you can adjust it.
Got you got you got you.
Okay.
You're saying in rent control.
No, and just in life.
Like, if I sign a five-year lease at a place, like, that's the cost of the place.
And then it can go up 3% a year or whatever it is.
Even inside the lease term, I didn't know that.
I thought it was once the lease expires.
Also, aren't private rentals within the private market allowed to go up?
Is there a cap on private rental increases?
No.
But, like, if you have a lease, for example, like, if you have a lease that, actually, that's a good point.
Like, maybe if you sign a lease for three years, it doesn't go up in that amount.
Yeah.
And then once it's in the free market, it can go up however much.
Yeah, yeah.
So, like, during this thing, the people who are most going to be affected are people trying to move to New York or look for a new apartment right now.
Those are going to go up crazy that aren't rent-stabilized affected by the freeze.
Or the people whose lease goes up in a year.
Yeah.
And every year, so I get it.
But that's a thing.
Politics is like, you can't help everybody.
Yeah.
Just try to do the...
He's trying to get housing built.
I think the 22,000.
people getting child care is big.
Nobody's really talking about that.
That doesn't even come up in the conversation.
Maybe I see that more because I have kids.
But like, I see that and I go, whoa, that changes somebody's life.
I haven't like pulled it up, but he's doing a lot of shit.
Like, it seems like.
He's been masterful in terms of like this.
I think he's been masterful in terms of the game of politics.
He got us a championship.
Say again?
He got us a championship.
All right.
Let's chill out.
And we got him elected.
Let's chill out.
So we got us in championship.
Let's chill out.
No, no, no.
You know, we got us in Nick Championship.
We got him elected.
No, he got us in the championship.
I see what you're saying.
In a way.
Flaigrant.
Yeah.
I mean, Zoron's at 3% right now to be the sexiest man of 2026.
Wow.
People's Magazine's sexiest man.
What a pivot, but I'm here for it.
Soren's at 3%.
Who's number one?
Calchia's a bad bunny.
Wow.
At 28%.
To be the sexiest?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Wow, the first two were gay.
Is this the guy from heated rivalry?
Yeah.
Wow.
Wait, bad buddy's not crazy.
That buddy's not gay.
I thought that was this thing where he was like,
I don't know if I like a guy now, but maybe I won't.
He's more fluid.
He's more open.
No, he never said that at all.
He just talked about the way he dresses and he does a little bit,
he used to do a little bit of that print shit where it's like.
He literally said, I don't know if I like a guy in the future.
Right now I'm into girls.
Yo.
He has stayed in interviews.
He identifies as heterosexual.
He was talking about his Spanish, you didn't understand.
But although he has also.
expressed a fluid and open perspective on sexuality, not noting that labels don't define an entire person.
I'm never going to like cilantro.
So never be a time in the future where I'm going to like it.
You're telling you.
You also got to think, like, from a Puerto Rican to say that.
That's big.
That's pretty good.
I mean, he's also the highest selling fucking artist, so you got to be inclusive.
Everybody, yo, gays pop up at the concert, yo.
I might like you one day.
Matt Damon, number three.
Shout out of many dames, 55 in the third place.
Yeah, that's crazy.
After seeing Talented Mr. Ripley, I think we've got to bump his numbers up.
Yeah, he's a beast.
He's a cutie in that movie.
He's a beast.
Okay.
Yeah.
He's a beast.
Also, I didn't realize that movie has so many gay undertones.
Oh, yeah.
David put it on for me.
He's like, bro, this movie is like so us.
And then all of a sudden he's like gay for him.
And I was like, wait, what?
What do you mean?
He's like, I didn't realize how gay this movie was anyway.
I just keep watching.
And then we just both watched it alone sitting there.
I was like, what?
There was like a scene where, like, he's watching him have sex with a girl, and he's all jealous.
And I was like, does this remind you of us?
And he's like, no, no, not this part, no.
More like the chess part.
David got a little of that bad bunny.
Yeah, he got a lot of that.
Yeah, you got a little bit of that bad buddy.
He's a bad bunny, dude.
You know, maybe down the line, he might.
He might switch it out?
Yeah.
Damn.
Yeah, did you see the Candace debate?
I've just seen clips from it, dude.
It's just insane.
These debates are exhausting.
By year.
Did you watch it?
Yeah, I watched this.
The whole thing?
That shit was fired.
I'm shocked by this.
I was out of beach, just chilling.
Okay, so set it up.
So Patrick Bed David.
Yeah, he's a moderator.
Moderates a debate between Candice Owens and Andrew Wilson.
Yeah.
And Candice is saying, I guess her position is that Tyler Robinson was not the person that murdered Charlie Kirk.
Right.
And that it's possibly that Israel's involved.
Right.
It was like her position.
And then Andrew Wilson is position.
is that Tyler Robinson
is most likely the person that killed
Ken, sorry,
Charlie Kirk. Yeah, and that Israel's
not involved. And then he paid her
$300,000 to debate.
Yeah, yeah. Nuts.
For what? Is he part of TPSA? Like, what does he get
out of this? I think it's cloud.
Yeah, I think that's it, right?
So, she was like
TPUSA
brought him in to do like
debate training for their staff.
And boy, was that some wasted money right there?
Everybody online is saying he got destroyed.
He got cooked.
So here's the thing that I don't understand about this.
Like, there is no convincing people online anymore.
You could have a one-on-one conversation with somebody
and maybe, you know, see the world through their eyes.
And maybe it changes a little bit how you feel about something.
But we no longer live in a time where, like, you watch an interview about something
that you already feel strongly, a certain thing.
way about, and then you change your opinion.
A debate or an interview?
Anything.
Debate.
Talking.
I don't know.
If you feel strong, all of Candace's fans, it's the Roershack test.
It's like, you see whatever you felt.
If you are a Candace supporter and you believe what she is talking and you've consumed
hundreds of hours of her talking about this case, I'm sure she absolutely destroyed
Andrew Wilson.
If you were someone who believes that Tyler Robinson was most likely the person that killed
it, I'm sorry, I'm sure you believe Candace.
If you, somebody that believes that Tyler Robinson is the person that killed
Bill and Charlie Kirk, and you watch the debate, I'm sure you think that Candace had no evidence to support her claims and that Andrew Wilson is 100% right.
And so a little bit of what I've seen online is because majority of people think Tyler Robinson did it.
But because Andrew did such a bad job in this debate, they're like questioning it.
So they still think he had something to do with it, but now they're just questioning like, huh, is there something up?
Because there's just so many things that Candace brought up where it's just like, this does look weird.
Like, why would you pave over the crime scene, like, the day after?
Like, why would your fucking that camera, the police camera, whatever, just like the battery dies
right when he's about to go on the roof and see where the guy shot from?
It's just like a lot of shit isn't checking out.
And I'm like, all right.
I still think Tyler Robs did it.
But I'm like, seems like something else is up.
But here's a perfect example.
It's like you still think Tyler Roberts did it.
Yes.
Now I'm like open to like, hey, maybe there's something else going on where there was no doubt in my head before.
Now what I would ask you this is like, were you a person that had followed this closely and you knew a lot about it?
So you're the perfect person that can get caught up in this because you and me and Mark don't really know.
Maybe you know more, but we don't really know anything about the case.
So we're walking it without a confirmed opinion about it.
And now we're just hearing the information so we can be swayed.
What I'm saying is if you are someone who believes a certain position and you see stuff online, it's either to validate your position.
Or it's either to, you know, confirm that the other, the opposition is bullshit.
That's all.
Like, it's really something I haven't been thinking about a lot.
It's like a real bummer.
I thought we had like a nice like four, five year window where we were willing to like consume information that we might not agree with and learn different perspectives.
And then I don't know what switch.
Something happened where the entire internet had just become a thousand different realities and you just live within your reality.
Yeah.
That's why I actually with debates in general.
Debates are kind of gay.
But there was a moment where I felt like it was useful and like society got utility.
We got all this new information and like information was democratized for the first time in like our life.
We're reading fucking textbooks in the New York Times and that just was the truth.
And then all of a sudden there was like a little truth outside of those narratives.
And then it was really intriguing.
You're like, wait, that's not actually how history transpired.
And this is what really happened in, you know, the Civil War and this is what really happened.
And, you know, World War I, whatever the fuck it was.
And now I feel like there's I don't know what the actual catalyst is
But now I feel like there's so much information and there's so many different conspiracy theories
Or whatever it is that you can kind of just live in your reality and you don't need facts to back it up
You just need doubt
So like doubt is currency right now
So there's no like hey Tyler Robinson definitely didn't do it
But it's like but maybe
And now the entire internet is just but maybe so you get to live in that little cocoon
Yeah, yeah
Yeah
What is that?
What happened? Is it too much information?
Yeah.
I think too much information and too many competing perspectives that can all exist simultaneously.
And so people just get siloed on their own thing.
Yeah.
But my issue with the debate is like, I forgot who said this, but I think it's a good point.
But it's like the person that wins the debate is just whoever is the more viral clips.
Yes.
I saw it online.
So I forgot who had that take.
But it's like completely true.
Like you see a Candace clip that's got 10 million views where she's like dunking on him.
Yeah.
And you're like, oh, man, I guess she won.
But I don't see his point.
Because we all just see the clips.
We don't watch the long-form thing.
We just see the clips.
And if you see more clips that are pushing a certain perspective,
we also the clip of Candice asking Andrew
if he knew what Tyler was charged with.
And he couldn't name any of the charges.
That's the only clip I saw.
That's the only clip everybody saw.
So it looks like he wasn't prepared for even his position in the debate.
And it looks like she wins.
You watched the whole thing.
I watched the whole thing.
I'm not a fan of either of them.
And I'm like, oh, no, Candace definitely got the best of him in this debate.
Not just that one thing.
But it's like a debate, I look at it, it's like verbal chess.
It's just like, hey, who can put their words together in a way that can win this sparring match?
Like, I don't even really care about what they're debating.
It's just like, how can you prove your position?
Yeah, I mean, if you look at it from that perspective, then there's valid.
So, and I just think she bodied them.
You know what?
I think you make a good point.
Debates are fucking pointless.
Not that they're pointless.
Obviously there's value in them.
But even the people debating are not willing to submit to a better idea.
Yeah.
And if they're not willing to submit to a better idea, then how can we expect their supporters to do it?
Exactly.
If there's like a closed debate in a perfect setting where it's like, hey, we're here to debate this topic and it's for a fixed audience, then maybe there's some value.
That works.
But like an open table debate on the internet stage, I'm like...
You might as well be debating Christianity in Islam.
Neither person is going to give an inch there.
Yes.
Right?
It was some conceding.
No, no, I'm not saying there wasn't conceding.
I'm just saying philosophically as we talk about it.
It's like, because based on your identity,
especially if the thing that you're debating
is something that you built your identity around,
you can't give in because then you lose your identity.
So then what often happens in these debates is
it becomes a humiliation ritual.
Instead of debating the ideas,
I just have to make you look stupid and humiliate you
so that anybody who follows you feel shame in following you.
Yes. Okay.
And to that chess metaphor, it's like, oh, well, you actually misspoke when you said this.
You weren't really precise in your language.
So technically, I'm right and you're wrong based off this linguistic technicality.
So I bested you in the technique of debate.
Instead of the ideas, which we're actually trying.
But it doesn't get as closer to what is capital T.
It doesn't get as close to truth.
Yes.
I think we all agree on that.
I don't think anybody's tuning into debates for the ideas or to be like swayed in a different direction.
But that would be the, I don't know.
I look at it like sport.
Like that shit is entertainment.
Oh, but I mean, that's an interesting way to look at it for sure.
But like there is a part of me that goes, it would be nice to have some form of monoculture, like some accepted reality that we all live in.
And not only do we live in like different realities, we live in insanely different realities.
Like, like, crazy.
The predominant conversation online is, is this a genocide or is it not?
Do you know how far those things are?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Like, this is, that's a far distance.
Yeah, yeah.
Right?
And people can't even agree.
They're not like, well, maybe it's closed.
We're not right here.
We're like, so that means people are seeing the same thing in two completely different realities.
And that's every.
Yeah.
So you just start to get, and maybe this is like by design, by the fucking tech overlords or whatever the fuck it is, but it's just like, is there just an exhaustion that ends up happening with that?
Yeah, I think so.
And is that the goal?
I don't know if it's the goal.
I think it's the inevitable outcome based off the incentives of the marketplace.
But like an ideal thing for me is like a one hour conversation with one perspective with a person that's interlocuting that's actually asking good questions, offering like some, something.
substantial pushback, but letting me with the point out, and then another hour with the other side.
I mean, that's the best way for you to formulate your own opinion, not you, all of us to formulate
our own opinions, but like there would be a really nice, like, there was a time where like,
I feel like, there was a time when I was growing up where like, probably the New York Times
is just like the gold standard for this is what happened, right?
And they've done tons to fuck that up, and that's fair.
But it would be nice if there was
And we don't have to use the word moderate
But it would be nice if there was like a place
Where there was like consensus
On this is more or less what happened
And then there was like some editorialized
This is the perspective of people on the right
This is the perspective of people on the left
This is why I like breaking points
Breaking Points has that
I truly watch breaking points a lot because of this exact reason
It will give you multiple perspectives
Like they're sort of interfacing with each other
Bringing up their point
And if there's something completely out of line
they're kind of pulling each other back in.
And then you generally get the sides plus sort of the middle ground.
And I think that's a brilliant.
And like what's that with all information?
You know, like what like it's amazing that breaking points has done that.
And they've done it so well.
And that nobody else is even trying.
And to me what that says is like maybe they're trying, but not like major news outlets.
Do you know what I mean?
Like to me, the legacy media.
And again, maybe you just.
can't cut through unless you're more sensationalized.
Yeah. Like you're incentivized to
be more radical. Even though when you speak to people on an
everyday level, they're not radical.
It's also, it's the financial incentive. Like, breaking points is
paid for by their listeners. So they're able to feed
exactly what that listener base is, which is, you know,
moderate to like, you know, a few categories on the other side.
Yeah. Whereas like a CNN or a Fox or any other legacy outlets,
they're all getting paid by companies to advertise to a specific
demographic and they have to appease that demographic.
That's right.
And so like, if they're like, hey, we're hitting like liberal women in their 60s,
like we're not going to float the counter argument to this point.
We just need to continue to feed that audience so that they continue to show up so we can
keep on selling ads to these advertisers.
So if you're funded on an independent level, I think you're able to stay a little bit more
like heterodox in your politics, whereas if you're just funded by the same company
trying to hit the same demo, it's like, yeah, it's the capitalist incentive inside of it that then
I think silos the political discourse.
Yes. Yes.
Which is the way it is.
Such a shame.
I mean...
Yeah.
But it's also just the incentive structure.
I mean, you go like state-funded media,
and then that's a different problem.
Yeah.
It solves one thing, caused another.
Because before the internet,
the cult leaders were
the people, people would follow,
and you can convince anybody to do whatever.
And now they're...
The YouTube people,
like the Candace's and this guy,
It's like they have cult-like following.
Candice has found a way to blame Israel for everything.
And her people believe it.
It is crazy.
Yeah.
And it's like if you can do that with anything,
if you can make this the boogeyman for any single thing that's happening,
it's like you could just make a group of people just do whatever the fuck you want.
And that shit is scary.
Well, it's happening.
Yeah, it's scary.
But it's also like where do we get some consensus?
Do you know, like where do we, I do miss monoculture.
Maybe it's selfishly because I like just conversing with people.
And I found more and more that like when I'm talking to somebody, I might bring up something that's like hitting my algorithm.
And that person is like, I have no clue what you're talking about.
I'm like, how do you not know?
Like it literally needs to be Spider-Man.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like there's like a few topics where maybe it will cross over.
And to pop into everybody's bucket.
Yeah.
But increasingly less.
I do think it exists in like a micro scale.
Like I think about like me, my immediate friend group and like maybe the people on the
periphery of that, we all kind of are talking about the same shit.
But then that's your bubble.
But that's a bubble.
What's cool is being able to cross out of the bubble and you get different perspectives
on this issue that you might not understand.
But now we're so siloed that like you go out of your bubble.
They might not even know the news story you're bringing up.
Yeah.
They might not even know like the trending video.
It might not even be political shit, just like a funny trending video.
Yeah, I didn't get that at all.
Like me, I kind of, I don't mind that.
Because, like, I like it when you're excited about something you saw in your algorithm.
I'm like, I've never heard of this.
And now you're just, like, show me some new shit.
Like, what if we all saw the same shit already?
It's like, yeah, we can vibe and be like, oh, shit, you saw that?
Yeah, I saw it too.
Or it's like.
Yeah.
You just learned about the Memphis pool party.
Yeah.
Yeah, I get to bring in something to you, IRL.
Of course, learning different things is good.
But having, like, a consensus of, like, 10 topics that we're all on the same page with is also really
nice because it's it's a social lubricator you go meet somebody and it's like you want to talk about
things that you both at least have perspective on you might not agree on it yeah but you want to
talk about things you have perspective on yeah the world cup is nice for that the world like there are
these like synergistic moments that feel good and everybody's like why does everything feel so good
it's like oh well may because we're all focusing on the same fucking thing it's not the positivity
around the world cup it's walking up to a stranger and knowing that within 10 seconds you'll have a
strong opinion about something that you're also feeling or talking about.
And just not just walking into that fucking, just like endless abyss where you have no clue.
You're starting a conversation.
You're like, when you get into an Uber or something, you're starting a conversation with the guy,
it's like, where is he from?
Because you know he'll be able to talk about that.
And you might have some curiosity about it.
During the World Cup, it was you watching, who you got in this game.
Like immediate connectivity with people.
And at a time where everybody complains about loneliness and lack of togetherness, et cetera,
it's nice to have these like 10 poll events
that ideally are not like political exhaustion
that people are just fucking like squeezing
but like these things that we can all kind of talk about
have opinions on talk some shit about
do you know what I mean it's like
it's like what people have romanticized
about like the barbershop
or the pub in England
or whatever like communal watering hole
where you come in it's like okay
this happens what's the opinion on it
LeBron's going here
what's the take on it. It's not
nice to walk into a group of people and just say that.
And I feel like there's less and less of that
because people are just divided.
I don't feel like I ever grew up in that though.
Really?
I don't think so.
I don't feel like I ever exist.
I have and I can feel that it's different.
Right?
Like even even like within close friend groups.
Like even in the group chat, someone will throw something out and somebody
that went, what's going on here?
Like there's this thing right now with the Lakers being resold.
Yeah.
You saw that, right?
This is a fucking insane story.
The guy buys the Lakers for like $8 billion.
10 months later, I think, sells it for 12 or something like, or 10 billion sells it for 12.
It's barely making the news.
This is a big sports story.
A NBA franchise, the most arguably the most storied NBA franchise in history is sold again in 10 months.
And there's some, like, shady financial shit around it.
Yeah.
And a Kushner's buying it.
Yeah.
And nobody's fucking talking about it.
I didn't even know those shady shit going on.
I thought he just caught a lick.
well, here's a thing.
The surface level is there's shady shit going on.
And my buddy was trying to explain the financials of it,
but almost kind of like Ponzi scheme-esque.
So basically like he was taking investor money to
buy certain things.
I'm going to butcher the whole thing.
I'm just not smart enough to know what the fuck it is.
But like taking investor money to buy certain things,
but the certain things that he was buying,
he also owned those properties.
So not exact properties in terms of,
I'm not even going to bother trying to explain it
because I don't know well enough, and someone was trying to explain to me,
but there was some, like, almost pseudo-Ponzie scheme thing going on.
You're using investor money to buy his own businesses, basically?
I don't know if that's exactly what it was.
But there was some stuff where, like, the feds might be hunkering down,
and I heard one version of that.
Then I heard another version of, like, it might not even be that.
So some people were saying he's got to sell it because he's got debts that he has to pay.
But then I'm hearing another version of, like,
he had a stroke that nobody really talked about.
And he might not be able to hold down all these companies that he has
because in order to do a business that big,
you need somebody who's strong leader.
So he might be kind of liquidating
because he can't hold on to it anymore.
But like...
There's no...
Like, if I walked up to someone on the street,
be like, yo, you're the Lakers sold?
They'd be like, oh, really?
Yeah.
What the fuck is going on?
But you think 20 years ago, people would all be like,
dude, the Lakers.
Yeah.
Really?
It's hard for me to even imagine.
20 years ago, I could walk into any place in New York,
and there would be at least five topics I could talk about,
and every single one of us would be on it.
But it's just
Outside of New York, you can't even talk about the potholes.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what?
And that sounds like it wouldn't be a big deal.
But like, literally, what do you talk about?
You meet a stranger in Idaho.
What do you talk to them about?
I mean, I would talk to them about what's going on in Idaho.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You're going to meet them there.
But there was a time where you could just be like,
hey, man, like the World Cup when that was happening,
or the fucking Super Bowl, or these events.
So there's a big movie coming.
The great thing about Sopranos or the great thing about any great Sunday show in HBO,
it was like a group collective experience.
Like you saw Jordan go off,
everybody saw Jordan go off.
Like for some reason,
or you saw the Mike Tyson fight.
Oh, yeah.
Mike was one that everybody watched.
Interesting.
It was just, that was it.
It's great.
And like now the only time it happens
is like super fucking polarized political shit.
And then you're going into the combo like,
oh, what am I about to walk into right here?
Interesting.
That was, I think, one of the nice things about sports.
And maybe now we're in this time before football season.
This is when it always feels the most hopeless.
Like, football can bring us together.
Yeah.
But, yeah, I'm like, what is the...
Like, this, these...
Like, I'm looking at some of the topics that we have here.
And it's just like...
The kids charge running a cocaine ring.
Fire.
Like, the fact that this is a new story
when literally every single school this is happening,
There's not
Every school
Well I think they were doing it on like a
Yeah I think there's a pretty high
They were doing a high up
And it was like well organized
The pledge labor to make it happen
I didn't know anybody like this man
I didn't know anybody like this in college
Using pledges to make cocaine
I didn't know anybody like this in college man
Wish I thought of that I'll tell you that way
We didn't know any fraternies that were known
For having the Mali parties
We didn't know any of those friends
I always had drugs.
Well, who the fuck is putting the drugs out then?
Well, someone's selling it to a guy that knows another guy
and then sells it to the guy in the fraternity,
then he dishes it to everyone.
Right.
But these guys are making it.
What school is this?
That's a good school.
Penn State.
Penn State's a good school.
Entrepreneur.
You know, you're going to some community college.
You're not going to have this type of ingenuity.
Yeah.
Do you feel like this destroys their career prospects?
I feel like there's some guy at a head phone.
It's like, hey, kid, I'll bring you in.
Oh, they're going to be.
all right. Cocaine Cowboys, you're like
Great. They're going to. I know where they're going to
I feel like they might be okay.
A Penn State grad?
I don't think Bill Gates' kid doing
this fucking thing. Friend of the show.
Friend of the show. Yeah. Phoebe Gates.
Yeah. You know?
Hey.
So, like, this is like,
I read a little bit about it. Like, there are people who I
guess did similar things to this that, like, did real
jail time. Yeah. This is
a huge story.
Nobody knows.
You walk to someone in the street
You're a Bill Gates kid
Probably gonna go to jail
They'd be like huh
Bill Gates got a kid
Yeah that's funny
Like you know
It was like
Damn what was that
Crispur not CRISPR
Where that
Silicon lady did
Yes yes yes
I know you're talking about
Is her name
Emily
Emma Holmes
No Amelia Holmes is the
Sherlock Holmes chick
Yeah something Holmes
I didn't get right about that
But yeah I know I'm talking about
Yeah
And like that was a big story
Everybody's like
Oh that was so bad
She got to go
She's going to get away with this shit.
Yeah, she's going to get away with it.
And it's like...
She's not going to jail.
There's no way.
It just is an interesting thing.
It's like, well, why is the discourse so radical?
It's like, well, the only way to capture...
You can't capture everyone's attention anymore
because not everybody is operating on the same wavelength.
So what you can do is capture the extremes attention
because all the extreme people in every little bucket
are operating on the same wavelength.
and you know where they are.
You don't know where, like, the moderates are
because you don't even know what the moderates care about.
Yeah.
You don't even know if the moderates know about the Lakers thing.
You don't know.
So it's impossible to, like, curate a show around more moderate beliefs
because the moderate beliefs are so segregated into a thousand different buckets.
So the extremes will win and they'll thrive.
Yeah.
And you can kind of be like a minstrel for the extreme, whatever that extreme position is.
That's why that canors debate went crazy.
Of course.
It's incredibly, like, did this, are, is there a cover up for one of the most famous
people in America getting shot and killed?
Like that's a fuck.
And they navigate in the extremes.
Yes. Online extremes. Yeah. And the
moderate person didn't even know that debate happened.
Yeah, I know. If you ask regular people on the street,
like if that debate happened, they didn't even know what happened.
Yeah. So it's an interesting time.
Yeah. Where it's like, how do you corral? Because
most of the people I speak to are not on the extremes.
All walks of life, pretty moderate.
Yeah. Fun wild takes. Yeah.
I love of strong opinion.
But not that extreme. It's like.
Yeah.
So it's like, but how do you corral all them if they're not even operating on the same knowledge base?
Yeah, you can't really.
So it's almost like the discourse is forced to the extreme, and it gets even more.
And we've watched certain people that are like in the space, like become more extreme.
Yeah.
And it's like...
That's why I'm worried about YouTube doing this new view count thing.
Yeah.
Because people are going to want to pump their view numbers.
And if now the view count is just from when you click the first.
frame of the video. You're going to make it the most insane thing ever. So you try to like clickbait
everyone. Whereas before like the click bait wouldn't work as well because you'd click and then
if they clicked off, it didn't count. Yeah. So now I think it's going to make more clip bit.
We're going to open every pod with a picture of someone very beautiful in a bikini. Just sort of
overlay. Bro, this is what the fucking son did in England. Oh yeah. Didn't they have like a naked
woman on page three or something like that? Yeah, they had like a page six, not six. I'm mixing
Yeah, they did.
That's so funny.
All right, we're doing that.
Whenever that goes for you, we're going to do one episode or we start with a woman.
Let's go, Miles.
Bring them tits out.
Yeah.
But like, it is an interesting thing where, like, given the nature of where people are organized, the way to, you can't corral the big middle because not all of them are on the same knowledge base, right?
And they don't even all have the same kind of identity.
Moderate people don't go, I'm moderate.
Like, they don't walk around there as their identity.
that people who are screaming their identity
exists on the extremes.
So you just kind of curate content just for them.
And then you have to be more extreme
in order to satisfy them
in the same way that you said,
you know, CNN has to get women aged 35 to 50.
So they have to position arguments
that will be, you know, palatable to them.
So there's no reason for me to think
that why it wouldn't go more and more extreme
in an effort to like maintain that audience
because someone more extreme than you
is going to come or along.
And they're going to start eating way of your views.
Then you're going to feel like you've got to go more extreme.
Yeah.
So really.
So what do you do in that fucking...
How do we speak to these normal people that nobody's speaking to?
Those are the most fun people.
I'm trying to figure that out there.
I don't know.
But no, I mean that.
Sincerely.
It's like...
Like, I feel like we went from a time where, like, it was six years ago where, like,
the mainstream conversation was abnormal.
And maybe even longer than that, 10 years ago.
And it was just so abnormal and so performative and so odd
That us just speaking flagrantly but like just about kind of normal opinions that everybody had
Was cathartic
Now I feel like shit has just gotten so insane
Yeah
Yeah
That there's this massive void right here
But the majority is in that void
And the only thing that pulls them in is
Odyssey
Yeah
Spider-Man
The World Cup
And like for a moment
All the normals get to come out
And have their opinion
and then there are these like fun celebs that pop up in these moments.
Like we start following Erlen Hollins.
Yeah, yeah.
Instagram, Twitter account or whatever the fuck it is.
And you're like, oh, yeah, this is like a fun guy having normal fun.
He's not doing anything insane.
He's not doing anything crazy extreme.
Nothing radical.
It's just fun.
Woke up goes away.
And now all these people are like, oh, what am I supposed to focus on that?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Am I being reductive of this?
No, I get it.
I just, I don't know what the solution is to pull in like all the,
the moderate and normal human beings.
I'm assuming it's just like staying the course
and not capitulating to the financial incentive
of like, oh, I'm going to get all the radical people on either side.
Which I feel like...
I mean, yeah, I feel like that's something that
at least we've been, I think, consistent at.
It's like, it's very easy to go over there
and just make that your whole identity.
Yes, maybe getting into politics was a fucking great move.
It was a brilliant.
move. That worked out
perfectly. Yeah, exactly.
We got the potter's fucking $20 account.
We got the potter's fixed. We got the
part of it all. But yes, yes.
But like, in terms
of like the, I don't even find it seductive, I think
once it gets that insane.
Yeah. And this is not to say that these people don't believe
it. That's another thing. Like, I think that
a lot of these guys do believe it.
I don't think that they're lying every single day.
I think there might be people that do. But like, I
think if you sat down with Candace,
I don't think she's going, yeah, I'm just making us all out.
I think she genuinely believes it.
But then again, I don't know with those.
I just don't.
I think there are people that don't, and they're just saying it because that's the thing to say.
100%.
And then I think there are people that are like, they genuinely believe it.
And honestly, the people generally believe it, even if we think it's crazy,
they'll succeed in the space because someone who believes it will beat a person who's
lying every single time.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
when I'm having everyday conversations with people.
I'm talking I meet you for five minutes just at a coffee shop.
Naturally, your most extreme view is not going to come out.
But I don't know what is, I don't know what they're all tapping into and consuming.
I think if you want to live in the middle, though, and like live with normal people, I think making great shit will still work.
So I think art cuts through.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
I only think debate cuts through.
I think art does.
Yeah.
And art could be documentary, you know, art could be film, TV, whatever.
Maybe it doesn't dominate the national headlines, but it does good enough.
Yeah.
It's fine.
Right?
Like any Apple TV show, anything like that where it's like, oh, yeah, a lot of people watch it.
It was successful.
Yeah.
But it's not going to be like the way it was where one show is dominating the whole nation.
It really isn't.
Yeah.
Like even coming in today, like I sat down this morning.
I was watching Widows Bay.
And I'd never heard of it, but there's an actress on the movie I'm doing, Ray Seahorn, fucking amazing.
She was in Better Call Saul and Pluribus.
I don't know if you guys watch.
You watch Pluribus.
She's fucking brilliant.
But yeah, she was like, yeah, I'm watching this Widow's Bay show.
I didn't even know this fucking show existed.
Randling me and I start watching, I'm like, this is a fucking great show.
And I came in, you guys, some of you guys kind of heard about it.
One of you guys saw it.
There was a time if there was a hot show that came out once a week.
Everybody would know.
And you either watched it or you knew about it and chose not to watch it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's just too much.
We got too many options, man.
Is that it?
Is that like, is that also like the dating complaint?
I hear a lot of like people complaining about dating now.
And has it been like Netflixified and so many options but you can't make the choice?
Yeah, because you can go on an app and just see, especially in New York, especially in New York and social media.
Like you can see the most beautiful woman is like in the area, the most beautiful man or whatever that might be.
And then you also can just swipe through 100 people in a day where it used to be.
100 people was a lot of people to like make a judgment on it you know what I mean yeah there was like
you know you grew up in like a town now it was probably a little different for us growing up in
New York because there's all these people around so we're maybe used to seeing more people
but like you had the girls in your grade you had the girls in the school there was a few blocks
away in your grade it's kind of what you had to choose yeah the hottest girl in your high school
when I was growing up was like, there's four high schools.
And you knew each of the hot girls or the hottest guy or whatever that was for whomever.
And the scarcity gave you gratitude.
Yeah, of course.
Right?
Like when shit is scarcity, you get something, you're grateful for you.
You're like, I don't want to lose this.
Yeah.
But I feel like that's flipped.
Now everybody has a roster and it's like, go.
The abundance has created a lack of gratitude.
You're not going, yo, I got this girl and she's fine.
You're going, oh, but there might be a finer one out there.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you swipe ten times, you'll find it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, a lot of guys, I think, are constantly thinking like,
oh, there might be one more out there.
Like, this might be, this is 80%.
Women are doing the exact same thing.
Women are doing the exact same thing.
Yeah, I'm only saying because I talk to my guy buddies about dating.
You ever notice that, like, the kids that are, like, from, like, really wealthy families,
like, they always take forever to settle down.
And sometimes they don't or they're in.
And they're not getting married at 22.
You know what I mean?
Some fucking Vanderbilt or some shit like that.
Like, didn't I?
And I wonder if we're all, not us, we're happily married, but like this younger generation
is all living the lives of a billionaire's kid.
Just in terms of orphans and access?
Hundreds of different girls that are potentially available.
They're not actually available.
And you're alone.
But the idea that they are.
Yeah, it makes you paralyzed.
Yeah.
It's called analysis paralysis.
Yes.
Yeah.
But everything's being sold to everyone at all times.
Go on that.
Like, just all content is being sold to everyone.
at all times. Like all women or men that are on these dating apps is available to everyone at all
times. Whereas before, like, maybe it was like regionalized. Also, you got to go out on a weekend to
meet somebody. Yeah. There was a time where like if you didn't leave the house, go to a bar,
hope that there were girls at the bar that night, hope that you had the courage to talk to a few of them.
And they're single. And they're single. You weren't mean nobody. You know what I mean? Like,
Like there was a moment where like if you were a girl's number
It was like
Alright let me plan out how many days I got to wait to text
Yeah
Yeah
Because but I don't want to wait too long
Yeah
Now it's like I'll meet the right girl
Yeah
This doesn't go well
The thing with a monoculture point that's weird
Is like there was before a monoculture
But there was also more distinct individual culture
Yeah that it's now that
Now that keep going on this
Where now it's like
Things are simultaneously more uniform
But less connected
You know what I mean?
If you had like a clothing brand in Southern California, you just sold to Southern California
and that was your demographic and those are the people you were servicing.
But now everything's selling to everyone at all times.
And like to the dating thing, it's like your dating pool was just your immediate geography
and now it's anyone within a thousand miles so you can change your setting.
So it's like things are more accessible on a national scale and even on a global scale.
And I think it's created more uniformity in terms of like the way people are culturally.
But it's created more in like sort of intellectual division in terms of what people are consuming based on that basis.
Yes, yes.
Like local news doesn't really exist.
Like all news is national.
But now it's siloed algorithmically to base off your preference.
Yes.
And to what you were talking about, the uniformity, it's like the slang in Cali and the slang in New York is kind of the same now.
The way kids talk is kind of said, like we're losing accents a little bit.
Yeah.
Oh, for sure.
You know, you're losing like distinct clothing.
Like the way that kids, when I went to college in California, they were wearing like rainbow sandals.
I didn't even know what the fuck that was.
You know, it was like so distinct when I went out there the way that I dressed, the way that they dressed.
And even the slang words that they used, like all the things are so distinct.
Now with the internet, all these kids kind of all sound the same.
Maybe there's like a southern accent.
There's a little, but like the vocabulary shared.
Every man I see over 40 has a version of those.
pat-bed David shoes or a shoe that looks like it.
Yeah, Dub was wearing them today.
Yeah, but every guy over 40 is wearing the same exact version of his shoe.
So to your point, there is like, there is a monoculture in terms of like accepted.
There is a monoculture or maybe like in terms of like societal norm, right, in terms of the way you dress, the way you talk.
and the second you move outside of that,
like even getting into music,
where, like, back in the day with, like, MTV,
it's like, we all knew what the fucking hot song was.
Do you know what the top 40?
I know we're washed, but, like, do you know
what the top 40 is right now?
Nope.
Yeah.
Like, do you know what the new band is right now?
Nope.
Now, we're old.
Somebody put me on to some group somber
or some shit like that the other day.
And I'm like, oh, I like this song.
And then apparently they've been out from ad long.
They're touring.
with fucking Taylor Swift, I'm like, oh, shit, I just discovered you.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's weird for me to put my brain into it because I just never knew a world outside of this.
Yeah.
But it seems like there's a more like cultural homogeneity even around the world and ideological isolation.
Whereas before, I wonder if it was the opposite.
It was like things were culturally distinct, but ideologically people were kind of on the same page.
And now it's inversed.
And I think that's the current paradigm.
And there's more division.
it feels like. And maybe more
confidence in being
ideologically different
because you know you have a group of people
that reinforce that online.
Online, yeah. Online. Whereas, but maybe back
in the day you might have a little different opinion
and that kind of made you unique
that you were willing to share it.
You know what I mean? Like you knew the things that you felt
that went against the grain a little bit.
And now there's no grain. Most people
will probably suppress it and just be like, hey, I'm just going to stick
with what everyone's doing. Yes. I'm going to be part of
whatever the collective consensus is.
But now you've got a group that will reinforce
whatever insane shit that you feel.
Yeah.
No, I'm just laughing.
I'm like, yeah.
You keep it in until you get a drink in year and there.
But that was what made.
I be ruffling feathers.
What happened?
No, just every time I go out,
it's like a debate starts.
Did you get hammered last night?
Not so much, but this past weekend, I went for it.
Really?
Yeah.
Just fun debates at the law.
Actually, Mom Dottie was a big one.
Good.
One of the people I was out, like,
her parents are
property owners or whatever
and it's like, they're like, he's such an
asshole, all the things he's doing and I'm like,
look at all the good and we were just going at it.
Yeah, that's a nice... It should be pissing people off.
Yeah, no. It is.
Because it's really just a tax on...
This is a tax on wealthy people.
Yeah. But now he's about to do some other thing.
I forgot exactly what they said, but
going after like mid-tier
landlords. So maybe you don't own
a thousand buildings or whatever, but like
the ones that own like
some brownstones in Brooklyn and shit like that.
They're about to clamp down on them.
To clamp down on them.
Yeah, like they got them on a list right now,
and they put the list out publicly.
Well, they put the list of the Piotesans out too publicly.
They're like, yo, why are you putting a target on my back?
And I was like, you know what?
I feel you on that.
That's fucked up.
Why would you do that?
Well, they'll all go.
I mean, I imagine what they would say is like this list does exist somewhere,
obscure that like if you want to go into the DOB or whatever you could find it.
If this the...
Or the housing bureau, whatever that is.
Yeah, but if he's going to post it, it's like...
He's going to shine a light on it.
Yes.
No, 100%.
And now we're...
And I felt them on that.
Say again?
I felt them on that point.
I think it's a reasonable...
But like, the reason why they are worried about it is because I think there's such
negative sentiment towards the 1%.
If there wasn't a negative sentiment towards the 1% and a list was out, they'd be like,
they'd be posting a shit on Instagram.
Like, yeah.
Look at me.
Look at all the units I got.
Because right now they're like, fuck the billionaires
And we should, you know, go to their house
And like with a pit fork and Louisiana Manjone's an arrow
Now they're like, yo, don't post my name on a list
Right?
Wow, I didn't realize he put on a list.
Yeah, that's great.
They're not happy about that.
That's wild.
But this is...
You still a man, bro.
But this is the thing where it's like,
if you got money and you're complaining about money problems,
nobody's caring.
By nobody, I mean, like,
the people that are going to be supportive of his agenda
and taxing the billionaires.
It's like, that's what, like, I don't know, like, I see a lot of the, I don't know if we were talking about this, but like, I think that people, you see a lot of people upset at like gambling and like crypto and stuff like that, right?
And there's this like big negative backlash towards it.
And it's like, I, when I see young people that are, there was some articles saying it was that they were shifting some of their savings outside of investments and into gambling.
and like crypto.
To me,
I don't see that as a problem
with gambling or crypto.
To me, I see that as a problem
with like,
I don't want to knock capitalism,
but like the economic incentive structure
in the country.
That's down, like,
that's young people going,
oh, if I, if I,
if I work hard, bust my ass,
I could make a business,
and I could be incredibly successful,
they're not trying to throw shit
on a parlay
and try to get rich
on some rich quick shit.
They're not dumping money into some random fucking coin so they could get rich quick.
They're doing it, I think, because they no longer, they feel outside of the economic incentive
structure that exists.
So now what we're doing is we're blaming these downstream things when the real problem
is upstream.
Yeah.
I think the looks-making trend is part of the same thing.
I can't control my financial position because I'm completely outside of this economy that's
doing whatever.
Yes.
But I can't control how attractive I am.
And if I can bring up that level of status, at least I can retain some status in the thing that I'm...
So I'm going to smash my face with a break.
Right?
It's the same thing as I'm going to just do this crazy parlay because maybe I'll make a fucking 100 grand on it.
I'm going to do this crypto coin that maybe is going to go crazy.
And it's just, to them, to me, I view it as like giving up.
Yeah, that's my only shot of buying a house.
I'm giving up on capitalism.
So it's like we have to do something to fix this so that this generation has the same hope that past generations have that we all grew up in.
We all grew up with the hope.
Like if I work hard, like my fucking parents, I'll be able to make something.
You know?
And my parents' version of that was a dance studio.
Selling fucking dance lessons.
That's a crazy dream for a lot of people.
You know, like when my mom grew up, this idea that that could happen and she could
be able to provide for a family, that's like an insane thing.
But she believed in it.
This generation I believe it.
And I think it's reinforced by seeing everybody else online looking rich.
So you have all these different vectors.
It's like everybody else is online on a boat.
You're not on a boat.
You're like, well, fuck, I'm not going to be able to get on a boat by doing this shit right here.
All right.
I'm dumping it into these parts.
realize. And like, it's not the same, but it's like, it's almost like every people going,
fuck the police, right? I know this one is tricky, but just hear me out. It's like,
the police are dealing with problems in society that they should not be dealing with, right?
So they're the backstop of society. So like, you know, I have a lot of mental health shit in
my family. It's like the mental health, if you got fucking something going on where you're crazy
and you're on the street and you're jerking off on a fucking subway every single day,
the policeman got to go handle that.
That's not his job.
He's there to fight crime.
Yes, that is a crime.
But, like, crazy people are not supposed to be part of crime.
They're supposed to have institutions that will protect them.
When you hollow out those institutions, right,
now you've got the police as the backdrop for all aspects of society.
And then when policing goes wrong,
and I understand there's racial elements of this,
and I want to be sensitive to that in discussion.
But you understand more, like, holistically, what I'm trying to say.
Yeah.
Which is like, when you just go, oh, the cops don't handle it.
Well, shit's going to get fucked up.
if it's just the cops, I hit them.
Because that's not what they're trained to do.
They're trying to stop crime.
Yeah. Like not stop, you know, mental illness.
So then when we just go, ah, fuck the police.
It's like, uh, even if you get rid of the police, that shit still can exist.
And I think it's the same thing as like, flaw crypto, fuck gambling.
It's like, okay, well, if the economy is the issue and these people don't feel like
they'll ever be able to be part of the economy, we got to solve that.
And all of a sudden, you'll solve these other problems.
Because if these kids think that they can be millionaires by actually working hard,
busting their ass becoming entrepreneurs, they're not going to be dumping shit into fucking
parlays in crypto.
Yeah.
I think it's a lot of misplace anger at the things that represent the kind of late stage
capitalist decay, where it's like AI, crypto, gambling, all this shit can be issues in
their own right, but I think they represent something bigger on like an ideological level.
It's like it's a symbol.
Socialism too.
Like the reason why it's attractive.
There's nobody that feels like they can go out there, make their own money, succeed,
start a business who's like,
yes, we got to fucking,
we have to push the most progressive socialist
or even like communist flirting
government policies.
They wouldn't think that.
But I get it when you think that you have no shot,
then you're like, hey, we got to do something to change this.
You're like you're never going to buy a house
and then all of a sudden you see an AI company prop up
and get a billion dollars and you're like, well,
that's going to push my house buying opportunity down another 10 years.
Yeah.
And so it represents.
I think an anger about the economic condition.
So then what is the prescription for that?
Is it like finding, because you don't want to do away with this thing that's created immense wealth
and allowed us to live in like unbelievable privilege.
It's like not comparable through any time in history.
You got to trust plus the monopolies.
Luigi Mangione.
No, but like you got to kind of do that, right?
It's like you have to find ways.
So it's basically what?
creating some sort of guardrails on capitalism that doesn't stop the entrepreneurial spirit
and the investment in these young people and the ability to work hard.
Yeah, to build more competition.
I just feel like the guardrails are gone completely.
I don't see it coming back.
And what is an example of a good garbrail that we could instill that doesn't hollow it out?
So, like, communism is the most garb rails to the point where, like, you just erode all entrepreneurship.
So what is the version where there are some?
What is actually prescriptive?
Like actually breaking up monopolies.
And like what would be one, for example?
That was done historically?
No, they're like, we could do now.
Like, what is prescriptive now?
Mm-hmm.
I'm not saying you've got to have this answer.
Obviously, it's like a tricky question.
How do you fix the American economy?
How do you fix Western capitalism?
Like, Miles, any thoughts?
I think having safety nets would be helpful for like the populace
if there was like a safety net of like
a health insurance.
Not even health insurance, but like the idea that like if even if it's not, you know, the state funded health care or whatever, but like the health care companies like not only being like busted, but also there being some sort of clarity and understanding that like if you break your leg and you're uninsured or making a run at like the small business, it's not going to like bankrupt you or like those types of things.
I think the biggest thing would be like free schooling.
So if we colleges like.
Yeah, we did being free college and free like.
like, what's those, like, trade schools or stuff like that,
where it's just like, hey, this is a way to lift you up
because it is proven that if you go to college,
you usually end up making more in life.
So that, if we can take that burden away from people
and allow more people to go to school and get higher educations,
I think that can help.
Get private equity out of homes, like personal individual homes.
Like, if your house can't be bought up by, like, a massive private,
equity company that...
But the first two examples
I think of the, not saying that they're necessarily wrong,
but they would lean more towards like the socialist,
communist society, where
organization of society.
Yeah. Right? But that's not necessarily
guardrail. I think what you were
talking about is like breaking up the monopolistic
practices of the companies, right?
Like that, what allows for more competition
so young entrepreneurs can even get a foot
in the game. Oh, this is controversial,
but I think
CEOs should only be able
to make like X per
percent more than the lowest person at their company.
I think you have to lower that gap.
Now you're on some Castro shit, my boy.
This is, again, this is more like...
Isn't that a guardrail, a capitalist guardrail?
So I don't know if that's a guardrail.
What I think is that is like a fundamentally, like that's putting a...
I mean, it is putting government pressure on a private business, which you could argue as a guardrail.
But what would that to, like, allow the employees to be paid?
more because there's more capital that exists.
What I think would end up just happening is that money would just be reinvested in the business.
And I don't know if it would be reflected in like the employee salary.
Even if it's reinvested, usually that reinvestment can result in more jobs or things of that nature.
Yeah, but if the jobs aren't high paying enough, then you're in the same circumstances.
Yeah, but if there's more available jobs, it's better than nothing.
Let me ask you this question.
What's the little better is better than nothing?
Speaking of capitalism, can we continue this conversation on Patreon?
Oh, that's absolutely.
Oh, shit.
Let's reinforce what we want.
Strong entrepreneurship.
And people that want a non-extreme take and logic and reason.
And support small business.
And support small business.
This is great.
This is, God, we look like such frauds doing this right now.
But we have limited time.
We want to make sure we get a Patreon out this week.
Sorry for that, guys.
I've been on this movie.
But we're going to continue on patreon.com slash flagrant.
Love you guys.
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