Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Could Giannis be in the GOAT discussion?

Episode Date: July 23, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What up people, Shultz here and you guys are about to listen to a clip from our weekly Patreon episode. If you want to sign up to our Patreon, support the flagrancy, support what we are doing, completely uncensored, flagrant content, you go to patreon.com slash flagrant2. With no more interruptions, here is the exclusive clip. What do you think about Giannis winning? Yeah, I love it. He's a legend. I love it.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I feel bad for CP3, but... I don't. No. I did, but fucking Giannis, man. This guy's so great. Have you been seeing any of his media stuff? I didn't get to watch the game. His accent got stronger, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:00:42 What is that accent? He didn't always speak with this Greek accent. It was that strong. And now that shit is strong, bro. Now he'd be acting like he barely knows English. Yeah. How do you say that? I have to take a tinkle.
Starting point is 00:00:51 It was a really funny thing, though. That was a funny bit, though. Apparently, he gets so fucking worked up and amped up for games. It happens sometimes. He gets exhausted five minutes in and has to take a little breather. Charles Barkley and Kenny said something when they were watching. They said, him and Russell Westbrook play harder than any players they've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Yeah. And to have that from a superstar MVP on defense and offense and champion is fucking great, dude. Yeah. They say he plays harder than Mike
Starting point is 00:01:14 and he had some ill-ass quotes that were just like, when he said some shit like, when I think about the past and I'm like playing highlights from the past and watching them, that's my ego.
Starting point is 00:01:23 And when I think about the future, like, oh, in this next game, I'm going to fucking crush it, but that's my pride. I try to stay in the present because that's how I'm humble playing highlights from the past and watching them. That's my ego. And when I think about the future, like, oh, in this next game, I'm going to fucking crush it. But that's my pride. I try to stay in the present because that's how I'm humble. And I was like, that's so fucking dope. This kid's like 25, 26 years old. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:01:33 That's the guy that should be, kids should be looking up to. You saw the shot that he took at LeBron? No, what did he say? And not only LeBron, but he's like, you know, I could go join a super team. And he had to stop himself. He goes, it's easier to go join a super team. I could just go to, all right, let me not say that. Oh, I didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I could just go join a super team, but this is the hard way. And that's why I feel so much better that we won it this way. Fire, dog. That's also shitting on your teammates. At the same time, it's like. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got no stars. That's fact.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Yeah, we're trash, bro. We beat you, we're trash. You saw me win a championship with these bums? Who the fuck is Chris Middleton? Chris Middleton, one good game every season. Drew Holiday? This is my fucking... PJ Tucker?
Starting point is 00:02:13 Best thing Drew Holiday did was pass me the ball for that alley-oop. Honestly. Yeah, dog. It's... And I haven't got... The game recorded and then ending got ruined, but I heard he went fucking off. 50 points.
Starting point is 00:02:23 50 points in a closeout game. 16 of 17 from the free throw line. Yeah. 16 of 17 from the free throw line, which is crazy because he's been bumming it from the free throw line the whole playoffs. But 50 in a closeout game is insane. Insane. And mad defensive play.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Blocks, steals. Like, this guy both ends. 50 in a closeout is huge. Insane. People, you really can't talk about that enough. Yeah. Because, like, Chris Paul put up 26. He had a good, I think it was like 11 or 19 or something like that.
Starting point is 00:02:50 26 is good. We can't criticize you. If you put up 16 in the closeout game or when you're, you know, about to get closed out, then maybe we can have a little bit of a conversation about you bumming it. But he had the most points on his team. That being said, towards the end of the game, there's four minutes left. Pussy, bro. Passing it off.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Devin Booker, who's still a young star, but like, where were you, dog? I didn't see him take a shot the last four minutes of the game. These are the times where your asshole gets tight, and Giannis doesn't have tight asshole syndrome at all. Giannis is like Eli Manning in that nothing bothers him. It's almost as if he views this as a game. He views this as he's just making sandcastles
Starting point is 00:03:27 or something like that. It doesn't matter. It doesn't look like he gets nervous. It doesn't look like he gets infected. I know that he had trouble with the free throw line
Starting point is 00:03:33 but I literally think that he was just having trouble with the free throw line. It wasn't the moment getting to him. You put 50 in a fucking closeout? I thought it was the moment. It happens
Starting point is 00:03:40 but I think he lets it go. The first two games he was kind of bumming it. Yeah? The first two games he wasn't stepping up the way that he needed to step up. First game, for sure he was bumming it, but also remember he had that knee injury. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And he came back a little fast from that. Like a pretty bad knee injury, not awful. Yeah, hyperextension. I forgot about that. That's supposed to be a couple of weeks. He came back early, didn't have a good first game, and then fucking destroyed. And I don't, it's unique because Kobe, MJ, they fucking love the big moment. They love to be killers.
Starting point is 00:04:05 We think LeBron maybe chokes a bit. Other players choke a bit. He just seems like every moment is the moment and that's what it is. Good or bad, it's just the moment. I don't get up, I don't get down. Making plays, both sides of the floor. I'm just going to try my hardest. I mean, CB3, I think he had like five assists.
Starting point is 00:04:19 26.5 assists. You're the greatest point guard in history. You couldn't get your teammates out of buckets. Yeah. I'm sorry. And like Devin Booker, I think he had 19 points when you're about to get closed out. Yeah, that's rough. No, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Now, Devin is young. Devin is eventually going to build up. Devin is a killer, too. I've seen him in many games. He's a fucking killer, and he's going to get built up, and it is what it is. But CP3, man, not good enough. I thought he was good enough. I really thought he was good enough.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I don't give Devin Booker the slide, either. He's an all-star. You got to step up. Bare but barely i think they added him at the end but yeah but no devin's nice and he's young and i think he's eventually going to become that dude and he maybe needs this heartbreak in order to to realize oh wow i have to be more of a killer oh wow i didn't take enough shots in the last four minutes of that game but cp3 i'm telling you man the tricky thing about cp3 is his ego won't allow him to not be the best person on the team and he's not good enough to win by himself so he got these young guys on the team that were willing to listen to whatever he said and willing to maybe be a little bit more bullied than usual like you know james
Starting point is 00:05:23 harden is like you're not gonna talk to me like that so i'm nicer than usual. Like, you know, James Harden is like, you're not going to talk to me like that. So I'm nicer than you. I'm nicer than you in every way. Now, CB3 finally finds the young guys that allow him to talk his shit and, you know, walk around with that ego. But when the going gets tough, but when it's closeout game and you got to come bring it,
Starting point is 00:05:39 can't bring it. He can't do enough to bring, to literally will his team to victory. Drew Holiday is apparently a fucking good defender. Kevin Durant apparently. So he's not good enough to beat Drew Holiday? Well, Kevin Durant and somebody else on their, maybe J.J. Redick, on their J.J. Redick's podcast are saying he's the best defender in the league,
Starting point is 00:05:55 Drew Holiday. And the media doesn't give him enough credit. Fair enough. Kevin Durant is saying that's the toughest guy that's ever guarded me. So, because Chris Paul game six against the Clippers went fucking nuts. Like 37 points, 7-8 from the three-point line or whatever the fuck it was, just buried them. So he can do it.
Starting point is 00:06:11 But I think Drew is a better defender than we give him credit for. Fair enough. Fair enough. So it could just be that. But if that's the case, if you can be stopped, then you don't got it. There's nobody that's going to stop Jordan. Nobody's going to stop Kobe in his prime. He's not that level.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah. And that's the thing that he's got to realize. He's got to realize, I'm not good enough to do this on my own or as the best guy, so I got to check my fucking ego and let a better guy handle these situations. Now, Devin Booker didn't step up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:41 He didn't step up. This is a big game. I need a 30 ball from you this game, Dev. Yeah. I need a 30 ball. you this game dev yeah i need a 30 ball like at the end of the day we can say whatever we want to say but if yannis in the closeout game drops 50 yeah and we give him all the credit for that yeah you're gonna get all the criticism for not doing the same goddamn thing yeah you know i had a bad game you will have bad
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Starting point is 00:08:37 Use the code Andrew and save 15% off your first order. Now let's get back to this exclusive Patreon. The greats find a way. I don't care if you have 7 points. You have 20 assists. Yeah. I don't care if you have 7 points. You have 15 steals. Yeah. You are finding a way to affect the game. Giannis
Starting point is 00:08:53 affecting the game on both sides. You have 5 dimes. You're Chris Paul. You have 5 dimes in a closeout game. That's unacceptable, bro. You need 9, 10, 11. You're Chris Paul. That's what you do. I mean, bare minimum. Yeah. Like, okay, 11. You're Chris Paul. That's what you do. I mean, bare minimum. Yeah. Like, okay, maybe you drop 26, okay, which is still great,
Starting point is 00:09:10 but it's not enough to affect the game to the point where you win. I need double-digit assists. I need you setting up your teammates, bro. Yeah, and he's not going to be one of the greatest of all time. He's one of the best point guard brains ever, but physically he just isn't superior like Giannis is the fucking freak. If he got this championship, he might go down as
Starting point is 00:09:29 best point guard of all time. Yeah, best pure point guard, maybe. If you take Magic out, because obviously it's a little bit different right there, but best pure point, if he got the ring, without the ring, he's not even going to be in the combo, though. Why do you take Magic out of him? Just the way his size... He was like
Starting point is 00:09:45 6'8", 6'9". He was a fucking freak. He was LeBron before LeBron. He could guard centers. He played center in the finals once. He is the greatest point guard of all time. We're just saying who brought the ball up the court and who was distributing the ball? 100%. But in terms of
Starting point is 00:10:01 what we know a point guard to be, oftentimes the smallest guy on the team really kind of setting up teammates and being deferential in terms of scoring. Yeah, and thinking about the whole court all the time and one, two plays ahead, whatever. One blemish on this thing is they beat the broken-up Nets with just Kevin Durant. But if you want to talk about resilience, they were down 0-2 to the Nets,
Starting point is 00:10:24 then down 3-2 to the Nets, then down 0-1 to the Hawks, fine, but 0-2 to the Suns. Like, these guys overcame some shit. It's a great title run. Giannis' asshole don't get tight. And neither does Chris Middleton, bro. Oh, no, no, no. That motherfucker's ready, dog.
Starting point is 00:10:38 He's ready. So that shot, I think they were up four, and he comes around a Giannis screen, gets the ball handed off to him and then hits a mid range jumper. He's not too far out, but he's fading as he pulls up and takes it. And I think that puts them up six. So that puts them up eight. And that like,
Starting point is 00:10:54 that was the bucket that sealed the game for them. The game was just out of reach for the sons of that bucket. That was a hard shot. No hesitation. He, the second he got that ball handed off to him, but even before the handoff, he knew he was shooting it. He knew the second he got his hands on that ball,
Starting point is 00:11:09 he's pulling up and fucking shooting it. He is the closer. That's a change they made. He closes out games now. And it works perfectly with Giannis. Yes. Because Giannis' game, I mean, put up a 50 ball, so this is going to sound weird what I'm about to say,
Starting point is 00:11:20 but his dominance is not offensive. In terms of one-on-one basketball. Get you a bucket. He's not Kobe. He's Shaq. Yeah. Slender Shaq. Yeah, that's a great way of looking at it.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Have him inside. He can struggle at the free throw line, most likely. Maybe just like Shaq, he hits him when it counts. Maybe. But like, he, yeah, he's not going to be the guy
Starting point is 00:11:38 that fucking dribbles and closes out and goes iso. That's not him. Yeah. You know, I remember Chris Middleton's first All-Star game. I always watched a player's first All-Star game to see how they play. And I remember he was just putting up shots, hitting like he was ready.
Starting point is 00:11:50 There was no fear in him. And I was like, oh, that guy got it. Charlotte? Yeah, I think it was Charlotte. I think you guys went that weekend. Yeah. And I remember he had a great game. And I was like, yo, this is your first All-Star game.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And you balled out. You're not afraid of the moment. Think of that moment if you're like a fringe All-Star. Yeah. And you're there with LeBron and Kevin Durant, whoever the fuck else. And you're not afraid of the moment yeah think of that moment if you're like a fringe all-star yeah and you're there with lebron and kevin durant whoever the fuck else and you're just all right let's go yeah man it was it was cool to see man it was really cool to see and good for yannis and i think it got him over the hump and i think with certain guys they do this and all of a sudden they feel like the star that they are that's what i was wondering yeah i was gonna ask that next go ahead i think we're probably gonna say the same thing which is like you could see
Starting point is 00:12:29 another level to be honest yeah because now he's not playing with the um i'm a star but i don't have anything to prove it yeah now he's playing with a ring you can't say ring and a contract that's now he made this commitment last year so it it's like. He got the contract. He got. So there's a confidence there. He got the rings. There's the confidence there. And he balled out and dropped 50 in the closeout. Son. Like people.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Sorry to interrupt. But like you can't. People were starting to be like, should we talk about Chris Milton for MVP of this? Yeah. MVP of this series. And it's like 50 in a closeout. Not even a question now.
Starting point is 00:13:02 You be quiet now. Yeah. I'm actually more impressed by 16 of 17 at the line. Insane. In the closeout game. If Seth Curry or Steph Curry did that, we'd be like, fucking, yo, 16 of 17 at the line. He's a 90% shooter. After fucking up the other game.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yes. Like the entire playoffs, he was a bum at the line. And once they started doing the whole counting shit, like that was really getting in his head. And the fact that he was just able to overcome that, that to me is like, wow. Mental fortitude, bro. That's crazy. He's got it. He's a steel trap.
Starting point is 00:13:31 He has the best mentality, dude. I looked up his age. He's having fun, right? He's like, yeah. Yeah, and I looked up his age. I was like, this kid to be this mentally just kind of wise, 26 years old. That shit when he said, I just want to live in the present, and all this stuff is my pride, and all this stuff is my ego. I was like, that's a fucking old man talking.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah. Like, that kind of shit is great. Yeah, it's like old man wisdom. Yeah. That's like some shit you get out of, like, Europe or Africa or something like that. Yeah, dude. From, like, people that are from cultures that are old. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:00 You know what I mean? Yes. That's some African, like, Nigerian old wise man shit. Or Greek shit, too. Maybe Greek, too. Yeah, yeah. He had another quote where he said something like americans we don't have those quotes yet no we're too young get money get money work hard every quote get money get bitches get money get bitches work hard like everything comes out of that and then after a few thousand years like those cultures existed then we'll have some things about like appreciate
Starting point is 00:14:20 life yeah yeah we don't have that just yeah yeah he had another quote that i like and this is when i was like man this guy's great he said something about like this is after Yeah, yeah. We don't have that just yet. Yeah. He had another quote that I like. And this is when I was like, man, this guy's great. He said something about like, this is after not only that crazy ass block in game four and the alley-oop in game five. He was like, look, we didn't know we were going to win this game, game five.
Starting point is 00:14:34 We were down 15. But this team, the only team I've been on that just never stops giving effort. And that's the most important thing. We were down. We never knew we were going to win this game. We were down 15.
Starting point is 00:14:43 We didn't know. We were up seven at the end. We didn't know. We were going to win this game. We were down 15. We didn't know. We were up seven at the end. We didn't know. We had no idea how this game was going to turn out. But this team always gives maximum effort. And that's what's important. And it's like, man, fuck. That's a great message for any kid that looks up to him.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Yeah. Yeah, it is cool. Congrats, Giannis. Congrats, Giannis. Congrats to the Bucks. Congrats to PJ Tuck. Like, there's guys on that team that I'm excited won, you know? He's probably going to play out at least this next year, maybe another.
Starting point is 00:15:11 But do you think he will leave Milwaukee now? Maybe. But here's the thing. If he leaves, y'all can't be mad. You can't be mad, bro. Nobody can be mad. Like, he gave you the ring. He stayed there until he got the ring.
Starting point is 00:15:22 And if now he wants to go to a big market team yeah and make tons of endorsement money i mean like if he goes to the lakers you realize like he's in every single action movie he's doing whatever he wants the endorsements are going to be insane like he will make another i'm just picking a number out of nowhere but like he'll probably make another hundred million dollars just being on the lakersakers and having access to certain things he just won't have access to if he's in Milwaukee. Same thing with being Golden State. All the tech opportunities will be brought to him just from being close. Yeah, Kevin Durant invested in fucking Coinbase. The opportunities are just insane.
Starting point is 00:15:59 But I really respect that he's like, no, I'm a $100 million. What else do I need? And he just stayed and committed. The fascinating thing now is that he is going to compete for Greece in the Olympics. So they're technically, I think, still qualifying. He has to now, four days later, go play a qualifying
Starting point is 00:16:16 game for Greece. Oh, fuck that. I'd be celebrating. So try to get them into the Olympics. And then have to compete in the Olympics against all your boys. Oh, dude, he had his post. Oh, also, no, I noticed, I looked at social media yesterday, no post since the playoff started. Once playoff started, no social media. Then his last
Starting point is 00:16:31 post was just his brother eating at his house at like 6, 7 a.m. and then a picture of the championship trophy in the bed. But like, this guy's not the fucking, he's like almost the anti-LeBron, almost the anti-heatles. Like, my post is going to be we're at my house and my brother's eating alone at my counter
Starting point is 00:16:48 after that night and then it's a picture in bed with my like daughter yeah it's like with LeBron like everything is so like filtered and thought out and like party and loves the spotlight and loves you know going out and doing all the things and then Giannis is just so authentic sometimes it's cringy and silly and stupid
Starting point is 00:17:04 and he looks goofy trying to tell a joke, but it's so likable because it's him. It's authentic and real. And yeah, Giannis, I mean, LeBron is just so much more like fabricated. Yes. Most stars. Yeah. Fabricated.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Yeah, and I understand that too because you're a billion-dollar business. You're LeBron. It's like don't tweet out shit that's going to hurt these 10 other things we got going on. Let's think about this. But way back on the extension, though. Real quick, real quick to interrupt. A really cool thing happened.
Starting point is 00:17:28 By the Bucs winning, all of Giannis' brothers. Now have a ring. And him have a ring. I think there's three of them. Maybe there's another one. There's three. But one got one with the Lakers. Last year, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Last year. And then his brother plays on the Bucs. Yeah, Costas. So now the whole family are NBA champions. That's fucking unreal. Is that the most decorated NBA family? I wonder. It's got to be.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Because there's three. Two, I'm sure. It's so rare three even make it to the league. I think that happened with the Plumlees, right? Oh, yeah. Right? Mason. You could say Rick Berry.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Brent Berry. John Berry. John Berry. Yeah, but I don't know if they all got rings. I don't think John did. Brent did with the Spurs. What about the Currys? Yeah, the Currys are closed.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Dell is the best scorer in the Hornets' history. Seth doesn't have a ring. Dell, I don't know if he has a ring. No, what I was saying is his contract keeps him there through 2025, and then he has a player option for 2025-26. But what, they can opt out? He'll be 29. You can opt out, and a lot of times what they'll do is like a sign-in trade
Starting point is 00:18:24 in those situations, because you can sign a bigger contract if you stay with your team. So you can sign, I think this is how the CBA works now, is like you can sign a four-year max deal with a new team, you can sign a five-year max deal with a team you're already on. So it incentivizes you to not leave
Starting point is 00:18:40 the team that you're on. But you could also do, I think, a sign-and-trade where it's like, okay, I want the five years. Also in four years, I get out of here earlier and the salary cap has increased so I can make more money. Yeah. So you almost want a shorter contract.

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