Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Debate ROAST: REAL Reason Biden is Running & Taylor Swift Truth Exposed

Episode Date: July 2, 2024

YERRR, this week is WILD. We roasted Biden and Trump during the presidential debates; we uncovered the real truth about Taylor Swift's masters and her feud with Scooter Braun; we talked Rick Ross getting checked in Vancouver by Drake's goons; and we explain all the drama surrounding Dr Disrespect. INDULGE! 00:00 The rant is back - Presidential debate 2:12 Kamala Harris keeps Biden’s job secure 4:30 The Presidents’ Debate = nightmare + Trump going feelings no facts 6:13 Andrew’s abortion question upset a lot of people 11:24 Biden’s MASSIVE fumble + Trump’s populist appeal 17:54 Biden isn’t getting yanked + debate format helped Trump 23:38 Bill Clinton is younger than both + Hillary sucking the life out of him 24:32 Dr Disrespect LEANED IN + Is Twitch being inconsistent? 30:41 Is it weird writing erotic scenes for fictional children? 35:33 Twitch trying to balance their business 36:50 Dr Disrespect’s potential reply + RELEASE THE DMs 40:22 Bronny gets drafted + Media welcomes the nepotism too 49:51 Get better cronies, 69 God v Jnr + Snr + All thanks to MJ 52:29 Michael Jordan stats shake up - Is LeBron behind it? 56:18 NBA is cooking + Kyle Filipowski was groomed? 1:01:37 When does meat stop growing? 1:05:26 Rick Ross jumped, What about The Weeknd + Why add fuel to the fire? 1:16:41 Drake needs a banger + can’t get out of his schedule 1:19:18 Taylor Swift v Scooter Braun - Not everything is as it seems 1:35:36 Taylor Swift “blackmailed” Scooter over Masters rights 1:37:39 Taylor Swift is a GENIUS + Billionaire that is THE victim 1:41:00 Kanye moment + the doc is a little boring

America. Last week we witnessed a one-of-a-kind event. A felon destroyed a government official. No, not that one. I'm talking about the debate. Trump did something we've never seen before. He took down a vegetable and Sleepy Joe proved he's the modern-day JFK because his fucking brain was all over the place. Listen, Kamala may be the Jamaican one, but Biden looked like he had a blood clot if you ask me. He got more drool on that podium than the hot to a girl with a sinus infection. Now, the question everyone's asking is who won the debate. And it depends. Sorry. Depends. You know, the adult diapers that allowed these two Metamucil monkeys to talk for 90 minutes without a piss break. I mean, Trump's bladder

must have looked like Lizzo's yoga ball. And let's be honest, Biden didn't make it all the way through. His underwear were more soaked than a Dubai strip mall. Trump easily won the debate, which I'm sure he'll never bring up again. Biden's performance was frankly terrifying. Biden took pauses so pregnant Alabama declared them human life. It was so concerning. Even CNN said he should no longer be running for president. Hey, CNN, he's already the fucking president. Why are we all OK with this? This is the most important job in the world. Would you let Biden do any other job? If he was announced CEO of Apple, you would sell your shares in a heartbeat. I wouldn't let him run Apple. I wouldn't let him eat a fucking apple. It's applesauce only for this guy. OK, what about babysitting? You're going to let Biden babysit? Fuck no. The only person letting Biden babysit is Casey Anthony. So it begs the question, why on earth is Biden still running? Now, is he a maniacal, power hungry narcissist? Maybe. Or is he a man of the people? Is it because he's the last line of defense against the bigger threat to our country?

No, not Trump. A woman who has the charm of a general wart and the cackle that would make Van Gogh sew his ear back on just to cut it off again. The Wicked Witch of the West Indies, Kamala Harris. Sure, Biden has the plane on autopilot, but at least we don't have Kamala Akbar in a cockpit. So here we are, America, the greatest reality show in history. Sit back, relax, and enjoy. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flag Range.

Obviously, we got to talk about this debate, man. Did everybody see the debate? Yes, sadly. I saw the important part. Why'd you cook Kamala like that? God damn, bro. I had a good one for Kamala like that? I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. I had a good one for Kamala that wasn't in there, but she's Jamaican and Indian, so she makes her own wigs.

That's good. But I do think that Kamala's job security, and I wonder if they do this shit on purpose. Like, you know, sometimes we assume that these political parties are idiots right like we see a lot of the politicians are like yeah they're fucking retards like they don't know what the hell they're talking about they make mistakes all the time they're bumbling but is it job security to give joe biden the most unlikable vp yeah so that he never has to worry about his job. Because if Gavin Newsom, now I know people hate Gavin Newsom, like everybody in LA and all these other motherfuckers hate him,

but there are people that love him. He would probably win. And he looks like a politician. If he was Biden's VP, I think they're yanking Biden. That's a good point. Because they'd probably choose someone who can get a swath of votes that they need, but also they don't want. What's that QB2 thing that we were talking about?

Oh, yeah. You don't want a backup quarterback. It was Cam Newton, who's too good to where if the team starts losing, all of a sudden the press is going, hey, put in Cam, whatever. So you kind of want a backup quarterback

that's not going to challenge for that position at all. Which is part of why Kaepernick didn't get signed. Because it's like, if you're struggling and he comes in, theoretically wins three games in a row, we've got a whole fucking quarterback controversy. So I bet a lot of starting quarterbacks were not lobbying for Colin Kaepernick to be their backup. I wonder if they actually manipulate the media to make Kamala less likable. I mean, she does a good job of helping them. Well, she doesn't do anything.

I haven't heard anything about anything she's done except her laughing. I think they muzzle her. Yeah. Because she was, I think we were ready to like her, but she just fumbled it somehow. Just said a few things we didn't like, and then we're like, now we're done. We're good. I think we were saying this on a different app, but like a Jamaican and an Indian with no opinions. Yeah, you've never seen it before. I don't believe this believe this yeah they've canceled each other out yeah okay so you guys saw the debate or what yes okay thoughts

i mean it was a fucking nightmare it was an abject night i will say on the positive side bodied him but also just like he's saying a lot of wild shit too what is like the pro-abortion ruling or the anti abortion ruling? Everybody wanted it. It's like, I don't think so. If I'm Republican moderate, I'm looking at that like, no, that's why we didn't destroy in the midterms. Yeah, because we passed that fucking the Supreme Court overturned Roe. Yeah, it's it's a performance.

And it's what you say and how you say Trump lied. Biden couldn't speak. So what did Trump lie about? Bro if yo I saw your tweet And I was so frustrated by it Like everything he lied about Oh every expert is saying what I did is the best

I'm not saying he didn't lie but I'm saying What did he lie about? Please just pull it up It's almost every time he opens his mouth Cause I thought that the Democrats did that beautifully They were like alright we fucked this one up biden shit the bed but we need to position trump in a way and and biden essentially was like yo i didn't do good but at least i told the truth so now trump is this liar but i bet biden lied too oh i'm sure yeah we expect politicians to lie

so it's not that that's the thing like i like this is a job i think the i think the amount of lying was so far past the point there always are fact checking on debates there's always fact checking i think the amount of if he said one thing he could have done better or one thing he would do differently everything he did was the best he was just doing feelings no facts that's all that's what he did which is fair but it ain't it's fun it's a fun part of the pod it's a fun part of the debate do Do you want to hear some feelings? No facts. Yeah. He said that no feelings or feelings. This is feeling no facts. Trump said that everybody wanted Roe versus Wade overturned. Yeah. Trump claims again, this from CNN.

People were upset at me about that post, about the abortion post I put up. I thought that was a very reasonable question. Me too. Nine months. I just I asked for everybody who hasn't seen it. I just posted on my Instagram. I was like, yo, because there was a discussion in the debate where Biden and Trump were talking about abortions at nine months. Yeah. And Biden wouldn't give a declarative answer about how it's wrong. Like he was being a little loosey goosey on it. And Trump was like, because he doesn't have to answer that ridiculous statement because no one has ever. I hate that.

I hate when they do this. I hate when they do this. You're gay. No, you're gay. You're gay. No, no, you're do this. I hate when they do this. You're gay. No, you're gay. No, you're being gay. I am. I am. You're being gay. No, you're being gay.

Wait, wait, wait. He's being gay. He's got to represent. Don't let him do that gay shit. He got some scoops. He got some scoops. It's July, son. Cut that shit.

You had your month. So he'll answer questions about golf. He'll challenge those. But when Trump is like, they're aborting babies at nine months biden doesn't have to acknowledge that no the golf thing i gotta talk about your mark had a good point about this and um he he said that it was so much like the gun laws where democrats would be like why do you need a rocket launcher? And Republican politicians don't

want to say, yeah, we don't need rocket launchers. We should get we should outlaw rocket launchers because they feel that their constituents will be upset about it. So Biden's lack of an answer, the fact that he couldn't just be like, yo, yeah, taking a baby out there at nine months for no fucking reason is, yeah, you're killing a baby. Yeah. The fact he couldn't just say that straight up is the reason why i posted i was like wait is this even a discussion i thought everybody's on the same page but i think that's more of a fumble than it is him avoiding answering the question or responding to it oh like it was really a fumble because in the past he has vocally said like no that that's ridiculous okay that's fair one fucking senator said some stupid comment and they were being a virginia dude yeah and he was being like what's it called hyperbolic

and you don't be hyperbolic about abortion with that shit as if all democrats want abortion okay so people are upset in the comments and it was really funny the comment section because half the people were like yeah that's crazy to do that and i'm looking at those comments like all right yeah those are sane people and then other people are like you're a fucking monster for even posting this you're a man you don't have a right to say bro i'll be honest i spoke to a few people and we know at least one of them and they said up to any point in time they think it's okay to do and it's their body not me and then it's a and then it's a parasite and like it's a... It was Paxil. It was Paxil. And then it's a parasite. Oh, fuck.

And, like, it's a parasite until it comes out of me. Now... That's so funny. That's what they said. That's so funny. And I tried to just ask questions. They're like, you're not going to change my mind about this at all. I mean, the only time is if it's the life of the mother. That's what I said.

I was like, if it's the life of the mother, of course. But if it's not, you're lazy. Yeah. You're lazy. You're lazy. You had time. Don't give me that shit. You had time. You procrastinated.

Exactly. We all procrastinate. It happens. But you pay the price. If you look at this thing as a parasite for eight months, why are you waiting? Yeah, who would have a worm in them for eight months? You know what I mean? That carried around an extra 30 pounds.

Shut up, RFK. How long was that worm in his brain? He's got to get that worm aboard. He really does have to do that. He can get that worm aboard. He was right, though. He could do better than them in the debates. RFK won that debate, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. He might have won that debate. I mean, they did the right thing by not having him there because America would be in disarray right now. Yeah.

I mean, America would literally be going, I'm voting for the worm brain guy. Yeah. What the fuck is happening in this country where the best possible candidate just admitted

that a worm ate their brain. That's where we are. That's what I'm asking myself. Where are we? Here's a theory I've heard. About abortion or Democrats? Which, do you want to stay on abortion? Here's the abortion thing. There's a weird disconnect or whatever, cognitive dissonance, where you don't

want to admit at a certain point it's taking a life because that allows you to be okay with it my general feeling and this is gonna i don't know probably upset both sides you are at once it has a heartbeat that's a life i don't know how it's not a life definitionally you're taking a life if you decide i'd rather take the life now than have him live an entire life or her where he's unwanted yeah i can i can respect that decision but the idea that it's not taking a life is crazy it's as crazy as a fucking of zygote at a what do you call the ivf farm is a life that's not a life this is like you guys are both being crazy yeah neil brennan said to me it's kind of killing kind of a life and he's like that's why it's so hard because it's not really killing but it's not

really what is it yeah so now no one has an answer. Fair enough. But the funniest thing from Biden on that. Nine months. That shit. What are we even talking? You're a murderer. What's he kicking for?

It kicks back, bro. You are engaging with the kid. The kid is in there pounding you out. Yeah. You're killing something. But the kid's kicking a woman. You know what I mean? What do we do with woman kickers?

We got to take them out, dude. That's what happens. If you're kicking a woman for nine months, you might have to get put down. You think that they deserved it? Is that what you think? Some of them. You think some of these babies deserved it? If they kick hard.

Or you could intro Kendrick on a concert. That's what I'm saying. Or you could, you know, if they're good at football, you just cut them for half a season, bring them back later. That's what's going on. You know what I mean? Yeah, it doesn't matter. But the funniest thing is they asked Biden the easiest easiest question roe versus wade what are you

gonna what what are you gonna do and trump was like everyone wanted it and everyone's like oh fuck and then they asked biden he was like i want roe versus wade we had an immigrant that raped a woman and everyone's like what the fuck are you talking about biggest fumble why did you bring that up yeah i know why are we so comfortable with all the fumbles so like he's the president he's not our grandpa i think it's an important distinction we got to start making like we're allowing him to make the gaffes we kind of laugh at the gaffes and it's like no no no no the job you don't have gaffes well this is the theory i was going to bring up there's a theory that because the debates normally start in september there's a theory that democrats push to have it in june so biden could kind of expose himself and they could swap him out and then everybody'd be like yeah this needed to happen

yeah but what's so funny about that theory is like he's already been exposed himself nobody just found out that he's retarded now yeah yeah yeah but now we really saw it now we really but i think they were all just like remembering past debates and like ah maybe i thought he was too old in 2020 2020 and he did great in those debates drugged him up or whatever in his body and i think it's just the pressure of the debate got to him because the next day he looks pretty good like doing one of his rallies but then it's like low pressure you have a teleprompter he has a crowd energizing him and shit like that but that debate he looked like two different people yeah he he cracked under pressure yeah yeah yeah yeah it's like that's just weird

yeah who chokes after they won a championship and they go to repeat that's why i'm like in the middle because i'm like i know he's doing these gaffes now but he's doing pretty good job in the presidential role so i'm like yeah here's the thing here's the thing i think deep down none of us believe he's making any decisions that's that yes and here's the thing here's the thing okay so so you're cool with it that is cool but you also have to empathize with people who are like i'm voting for a person not the handlers yeah so if the person isn't making decisions my vote is not represented now we don't have a democracy yeah but i saw what that person did the last four and shit was too crazy i'm not saying vote for trump what i'm saying is if somebody voted for biden if they were like i really like

your ideas and i like what you're doing and then they find out he's not making the decisions you can understand how they might be feeling a little disillusioned right so we have this weird thing that's happening where it's become normalized to believe that our president is not all there and other people are making decisions and nobody can point to the other people because you just want to justify your sides. But then those people are very anti-Trump. Why are you anti-Trump if you just don't matter what the individual does. You're voting for the people behind the individual. Those guys are going to let things not get too crazy. But then Trump specifically is dangerous. How is Trump specifically dangerous if it's just going to be the handlers? No, no, no. Not you. Those people who are like, oh, it doesn't matter. Biden's just getting handled anyway. They'll look at Trump and be like, well, no, you can't let that individual have the white.

I see what you're saying. There's like a logical flaw. I see the cognitive inconsistency there. It's like they. But what I would say in that situation is when I look at Biden, I'm like, he needs to be handled. When I look at Trump, he will never let anybody handle him. OK, that's fair. And I think that's their concern. And I think that's also like the party system concern, too. I don't think the Democratic operation is going to be that upset if they have like a traditional Republican come in.

Right. Because they know they can kind of control them. And by them, I don't think the Democrats. I mean, like the fucking Boeing and the pharmaceutical companies and all the people who, you know, butter the bread. I think they're like, yeah, we can. I think they look at Trump and they're like, yeah, this guy, he's going to do whatever the fuck he wants. That scares the shit out of people. But that's also what people like. If you feel disillusioned by the pharmaceutical industry, by the military industrial complex, if you feel disillusioned by every aspect of industry or government, you want the dude who's not

going to listen to them. That's fair. That's the debate. Do you want a crazy guy that'll do whatever he wants or a crazy guy that can't do anything he wants? Low-key, I think they want a crazy guy that will do the opposite of what those old establishment industries will do. Who are you speaking for? Trump.

Okay. And I think they're like, I just want somebody to point a finger at those people that have fucked me over. They believe that they've been fucked over. Which I completely empathize with. Hell yeah. Those guys get fucked at every turn. We kind of scoff at them, laugh at middle America, fly over states, blah, blah, blah. Of course they resent the establishment

and the coastal cities and all that. We've done nothing but look down on them and not help them. So fuck you. At least give me the guy who says fuck you back on my behalf. They don't feel a way that during the first four years he didn't really drain the swamp and get rid of these motherfuckers or do anything against these institutions. I think he still speaks enough to them

that I would rock with I think if they wouldn't elect him for a third term, but I think he does enough. And the other guys haven't done anything for them. So they're like, all right, well, at least this guy makes me feel good. You just vote for who's closest to your opinions. Like all these religious people voting for Trump. They know damn well this motherfucker ain't religious. He paid for more abortions than anyone in this room except Alex.

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Now let's get back to the show. Love you. So real quick, just just post debate. What do you think happens? You think that they yanked him out or what? Dude, I don't think so, because I still think he's their best chance to win, which is crazy. OK, Mark. Yeah, they don't pull. What do you think happens? I i mean it goes to an election they do in another debate and hopefully like i think the debate format is way better for one yes and i also think that it helped trump yes yeah i do think explain that because like so the first debate 2016 when he's coming out the crowd helped trump immensely he was like getting charged up he was able to play the crowd better than everyone. And that I think is what got him elected is the rallies was the debates, like all those quotes. And then 2020 that debate, he tried doing the

same thing, but he looked like such a bully. He got like high off the crowd's energy and then started like pummeling Biden. Everyone's like, yo, what's, what's wrong with this guy? He's like out of control. He's a loose cannon. And then this time, no audience, it was just the people. And then it was just him. He was very calm. I feel like he was very controlled. Biden was losing the time limit all the time. And then Trump, I thought, looked way better, partially because of that reason. Yeah, I agree with you 100%. I think also that the time limit actually helps Trump. Yeah. Keeps him short. He'll run the light. Trump will run the light. And if you're the Dems, if you're Biden, you want him running the light because once he gets through the thing that he's memorized to say and he starts freestyling,

that's when we like it. That's when he starts cooking. Once the hands get out there, once his hands do this, he forgot everything he had to say. All the talking points gone. Once the hands are moving, I'm sitting there, I'm perched up in my seat. I'm like, oh, he's about to call right now.

Let's fucking go. But they chop him off at the minute. So he doesn't have a lot of hands time. Whereas, you know, Biden, maybe, maybe it would have been a little bit. I would let that guy run. If I'm Biden, I would just let him run. Also, you can't give Biden numbers. Stop giving him numbers.

Every number is a fumble. You can't get past it. Keep it vague. Like your memory. I do want them to bring back they used to have the little ticker thing that showed like, it was kind of like a fact checker live.

And they had that last time. And I do think they should bring it back because it was so ridiculous. And that it has to be a little truthful. Because why would you vote for somebody that every single word out of his mouth is a lie? It's like you're either voting for brain dead or voting for a lie. I'm somebody that every single word out of his mouth is a lie? It's like you don't know everything. That's the other thing.

I'm falling for every single narrative. I fell for the narrative that Biden said everything that was true that whole night. He didn't say one single lie. Then I go on Twitter and then people listen to all the lies. I fell for the narrative that Trump lied about every single thing. And then I go on Twitter and I'm like, oh, shit, he did say something truthful in these months. So I'm falling for every narrative left and right. I hate information right now.

I'm almost at the point where I'm like, if you say something, I believe it. So you better say more interesting lies than that motherfucker. Because he got me with his lies. I wonder if it's always been that way. I want to see a fact check on like a debate from the 60s. That's the thing Charlamagne always quotes. Nobody believes the truth when the lie is more interesting. Yeah, and I think it's always been that way.

I just expect politicians to lie. They used to have the fact checker during the debates. I used to like that. Bro, did you see the clip of Reagan during his debate acknowledge his age? No. This was fucking, this was fire. The guy asking the questions asks him, how do you feel about the sentiment that you're maybe too old or your age

or something like that? I don't want to butcher it. Maybe you bring it up. But he essentially says something to the extent of, he goes, I don't want, he goes, I want to win this fair and square. I don't want to have discussions in this debate about my opponent's youth and inexperience.

Like he flips the age thing to the point where the guy that he's going up against starts laughing yeah and he even like looks over and he's kind of like he's like oh that guy's likable and i looked at that guy laugh at his opponent sorry i look and i go you're toast yeah yeah you are fucking toast like he charmed his opponent yeah yeah i mean i think there's this we have this version of like reagan uh what is it reaganomics or whatever like that i think the democrats have really kind of maybe for good reasons or bad reasons i don't really know but you grow up in like a democrat city we're like oh reaganomics was horrible and this was disgusting and this and he gave it was him that gave crack to the hood and all this other stuff and i had this idea of him as this like horrible person that just like destroyed urban communities and destroyed

the economy but every time i see this guy talking to pony i'm like is this the best pet president ever he was quick on his feet i mean that one the assassination attempt he gets if someone tries to kill him he survives and then add a speech all of a sudden a balloon pops and he stops the speech, goes, miss me. And then keeps going. I mean, he's there. Clinton, like just a charm. And just he flipped entire states. I think the Republicans have painted Clinton in a way.

Yeah. In the same way that the Democrats have painted Reagan in a way. But he probably really satisfied the things that they wanted emotionally, while at the same time was incredibly charming. I mean, he charms the guy that he's going up against to the point where he's looking over and laughing and he doesn't even realize he just drowned his opponent. Yeah. Before it even started. Yeah. That guy wants to vote for Reagan. Yeah. And everybody seeing it is like, oh, that guy's that guy's. How am I going to vote for the guy that got that laughed at the other guy? No, I'm voting for the guy that got the laugh.

My opponent's youth and inexperience. Wow. What a fucking dude. He was war ready. Yo, speaking of age. I'm not going to attack his age. And then I'm just going to attack his age. Speaking of elders, Trump.

I'm sorry, Bill Clinton. I was listening to some things earlier. Bill Clinton right now is younger than trump and biden and he was president 30 years ago well and ruby bridges born versus bored versus brown to education or whatever younger than both of them like considerably and clinton looks like shit bro i don't know if you've seen him yes like if you think biden is a fucking scarecrow then you got to got to look at Clinton. Oh, really? There's no life left in his body. He had like four heart attacks. He's skinny as hell. Oh, let me see.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a real shame what being married to Hillary Clinton for that long was. And he was cheating on her. Imagine he was faithful to that motherfucker who would have died at 60 years old. He would have been dead. He would have got the second term. Hillary looks good, actually. Like, she's literally sucking the life out of that man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's a real damn shame. Anyway, so. No, there's a movie about Hocus Pocus. Witches can do that. They can suck the youth out of other people yeah yeah it's it's a real damn shame anyway so no there's a movie about hocus pocus witches can do that they can suck the inside other people it's like a thing can i ask y'all a question i mean god damn yeah can i ask y'all a question real quick before you do that um there's this crazy news story that uh an adult that talks to children all day on stream turned out to maybe be a pedophile can you guys

believe guys can you fucking believe that the adult that talks to children on stream for eight hours to 12 hours a day and has dedicated their life to playing video games might be into kids guys allegedly i mean allegedly but it. But I'm just saying, did anybody see this coming? I'm shocked. Wow. I just can't even imagine. Yeah.

What's his name, this guy? I think you're talking about Dr. Disrespect. Oh, Dr. Disrespect. He's a doctor. Oh, he is? Okay, do you know the whole story? Pediatrician? I know a lot of it.

I've never seen someone handle a pedophilia accusation more confidently. Yeah, it's really crazy. He leaned in. Yeah. Yeah. To the point that people are like, I don't think he did it. He goes, I don't apologize for shit, but maybe we start. Can I give you a breakdown? Because up until this story happened, I had no idea. I never heard of him. So he's a popular OG streamer, apparently. Yeah, he's like a Twitch streamer, former Twitch streamer, current YouTube streamer. For the record,

I don't consume his content. I'm not like the most privy. I just research this for the sake of this content. Why, you guys have too much overlap in your interests? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't need to study game film, you know what I mean? So basically, he's a really popular streamer, right? He was on Twitch for the longest time. I don't know when exactly he started. Right now, he's 42 years old,

okay? He created this character called Dr disrespect he's like six eight he can dunk he'd like talk shit on stream and he has a huge audience huge fan base people love him and so for years he was doing his thing on twitch there was no problem and then 2017 he comes on not as the character but as himself and kind of is like on stream and he's kind of sad and he's talking about how he uh apologizes to his wife and family for being unfaithful so that's all that came out in 2017 and then the whole audience was like we don't care we're 15 who gives a shit yeah so then fast forward 2020 he uh basically gets taken off of twitch he gets banned he can't be on twitch anymore apparently the gaming space was undergoing like a version

of me too so he's banned on twitch and he signed an exclusivity deal with twitch that had not expired so then he basically settled with twitch and twitch paid him out all right so then that's 2022 he immediately goes to youtube and starts going right on youtube basically fast forward to 2024 an ex twitch employee tweets out that he i mean it's crazy they would have to pay him yeah like you think there'd be a clause in a contract? Yeah, a morality clause. Yeah. You start talking to a little kid

that they don't have to pay him. He got paid to talk to an underage girl. That's remarkable. Yeah, it really is crazy. So 2024 ex-Twitch employee comes out and says he had been banned

because he'd been caught messaging a minor on the DM service of Twitch known as Whisper. Which I don't think he knew was making money. Now, I'm sure he messaged minors all the time because it Twitch known as Whisper. Which I don't think he knew was making minors. Now, I'm sure he messaged minors all the time because it's kids watching the show.

It's the inappropriate nature of how he messaged her, allegedly. Like, for example, if you're the guy from Blue's Clues and you've got a bunch of kids sending you fucking letters every single week and you write them back and say, hey, you know, thanks for watching the show. Stay in school. Stay in school, et cetera. That's totally fine.

When you're engaging in inappropriate DMs with an underage girl, now you get paid millions of dollars by Twitch. That's what happens. So, apparently, according to the correspondence, he had planned to meet with her at TwitchCon, and then according to his own tweet vindicating

himself, he claimed that the messages got a little inappropriate in nature or something to that effect. Again, I'm not an expert on the story. It is kind of serious. I think there's also things a little inappropriate with an underage girl. It's just either inappropriate or not. Just as a general rule, don't meet up with minors.

Unless there's a tweet or a text being like, hey, your parents are going to be there. You and your parents can come just to get out ahead of any. I'm not meeting you alone. Well, I don't even talk to him. I mean, that's your fan base. Thanks for support.

Thumbs up. Exactly. Thumbs up. You stay in school. All the other pleasantries. Yeah. So this came this happened apparently in 2017. And people speculated that was a reason for his apology back then.

According to his tweet, these were casual mutual conversations that sometimes lean too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. He claimed he had no intentions of meeting this person and then edited his Twitter statement to remove the mention of the minor, but then re-edited it back in once people were like, wait a second, did you just cut out the fact that it was a minor that you confirmed? And he was like, all right, I put it back in. So it seems like he kind of bungled his apology here. And then he denied being a pedophile which is a good move and then uh youtube demonetized his account and then he got dropped from like a bunch of stuff he was like doing collabs with a ton of different

companies he was working with like the 49ers he was doing like a video game that he was going to release with the studio they got they dropped him and uh apparently the thing got sent to like the child exploitation service of the United States, and they, I guess, saw it but then didn't investigate. I don't know exactly what the facts are with that. So that is what currently happened as of last week as far as I understand it. But there's more to come. So the question is, why didn't Twitch do something about this in 2017 when they found out about it?

Well, they did. They paid them lots of money. They did a lot. But they didn't do that until 2020. This happened in 2017. So the question is, did found out about it. Well, they paid him lots of money. They did a lot. But they didn't do that until 2020. This happened in 2017. So the question is, did Twitch know about it? And then if they did, why did they keep him on for three years knowing that he had solicited a minor, allegedly?

Or did Twitch not know about it, in which case they need to do a better job of surveying their servers and knowing what people are saying to their audience? So that's the one question that people are like, okay, that's pretty weird. Second question, now people are pointing at the duplicity of Twitch that they're going after this guy, rightfully so, right? If what he did is true, that's fucked up. If what he did, yeah. But then you have these bathtub streamers.

So on Twitch, you'll have these girls that are full-grown women that are basically trying to soft-core cam their way into getting OnlyFans people. And they will stream in a bathtub or they'll stream with everything, just their tits cut off. So they're covered. And the age to sign up for Twitch is 13. So basically everyone's like,

well, wait a second. What he did is fucked up. But what these girls are doing where they're basically making sexualized content for people 13 and up. Wow. That's also fucked up. So what are you

going to do about that? Yo, is writing sexualized content for kids weird too? I would say so. If you're doing erotica for children. Like, euphoria is erotica for children. I don't know if that shows for children. No, no, no, no. Meaning like... Oh, for them to do. For them to do. Like, they're writing

adults are playing the children. Oh, yeah. Like, it is a kind of, I understand you're trying to capture this like age of innocence and uh you know there's so much happening when you're the hormonally when a kid there's discovery etc and we're all probably interested at this in this time in our lives right but you do have to spend a lot of time thinking about kids fucking when you're writing the show yeah right like it is a it is an odd thing like i remember when we were younger we're watching like you know beverly hills now to a no and there's like sex scenes and shit for teenagers yeah and we were young so it made sense didn't think anything of it but there's adult producers that write the scenes and direct

the scenes can you moan louder moan like a teenager would moan louder like yeah right it is yeah where is what is the that is a little odd it's peculiar it is very yeah it's not it's not illegal because they're adults playing them yeah but at the same time you're imagining being also as an actor you're imagining hooking up with a teenager yo stop making euphoria weird because i like that shit. It's weird. Why are we watching it? Let's go back to We're believing they're in high school.

Fuck this fuck poison. Is there weird shit in like Game of Thrones? Probably. No, no. Yeah. No. The main

No. The dude. No. That's fantasy. That's fantasy. The rules don't apply, Mark. Yeah, it is fantasy, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's fantasy? There's dragons. His, Mark. Yeah, it is fantasy, I think. Who's fantasy?

There's dragons. His niece, he's fucking, she was like a little girl. Yeah, Rhaenyra was like a teen the first time her uncle took her out. That's also. Y'all remember that part? Yeah. Y'all remember? I forgot about that immediately.

It's not the things I focus on. I focus on the dragons. Not dragons. Dragon what? Nah, they reminded us of it this episode. But yeah, isn't there like a... I don't know how to articulate what I'm saying. No, I get it.

You articulated it. But then it really fell apart with that Game of Thrones thing. Yeah, but it's fantasy. It doesn't count. Yeah. It is creepy to have to write sexual lines for children, even if they're not children. Actually, even if the actors are adults,

I don't like it. What if it's based on true story? It doesn't matter. Makes it worse? Yeah. No, because if, if I wrote a story about me

fucking when I was 17, That's way worse. A consensually 17 year old person, You wouldn't get no pussy, bro. If it's autobiographical. If it's fantasy again, I mean, No,

no, no, this is a good point. When I tell y'all about the first time I fucked or when i got head when i was younger y'all are pedophiles yeah i'm not yeah i don't know what's happening thinking about me getting head as a teenager i don't i don't enjoy those stories first of all second of all i only think about you getting head as an adult you you

yeah yeah it was way different yeah i was so bad at it when I was young. So bad at getting hit. But yeah, it is. I wouldn't want to do it, but I don't know if it should be illegal. You know what I'm saying? I don't think anything illegal is happening here, but it does start to feel odd. Yeah, I think in their mind, they're capturing a reality. Yeah.

And it's a reality maybe they think adults should be privy to. Because I don't think I knew, and I don't know how accurate the show is but when I'm watching the show my kids are wiling I think that's what they're going for they're going for high drama and there's no higher drama than the innocence of a child being taken advantage of or something like that if the show takes place in college

you're like oh they're fucking that's not that bad but when the show takes place in high school and a trans girl is getting fucking rinsed out by the other person's dad in a hotel room you're like oh my god this is wrong so they know what they're doing is wrong and salacious the intention matters though if you're just trying to tell a story

and this is a necessary part to tell that story that's different than these cam girls who are clearly trying to sell sex without selling sex so it's like the intention matters and like they're feeding you into an OnlyFans so they can monetize it. Euphoria is the show in and of itself. Nobody's putting on Euphoria to jerk

off and shit. I don't think. Jacob Alloy is pretty hot. What about anime? Nobody jerks off to anime. Stop you. Don't make anime weird. They sexualize the bitches in anime, right?

Yeah. And it's kids watching anime. Mm-hmm. So wouldn't that be the same thing? They're never fucking in it. They just make them have big tits and shit. But they never fuck on Amazon. They never fuck on Twitch. Them girls in the bathtub don't fuck on Twitch. Mm-hmm. What, they're trying to set up the pipeline to sign up for the OnlyFans? Oh, you're saying they also

have OnlyFans. Yeah, it's a pipeline. Gotta, gotta, gotta. The whole point is to get you to sign up for the OnlyFans. Oh, you're saying they also have OnlyFans. Yeah, it's a pipeline. Got it, got it, got it. The whole point is to get you to sign up for the OnlyFans so I can monetize my tits. No, I got you. I got you. And I think that's the case. I got to think of specific instances if there's Twitch streamers that are genuinely going straight from there to OnlyFans.

Bro, that's the thing. Running a legit business is exhausting. Yeah. Because you always got these annoying motherfuckers. You're the person who's the CEO of Twitch. And you're like, hey, we got this great platform. People can play video games. They can talk to their friends. It's going to be awesome, right? We got Sketch. We're going to make Sketch happen.

It's going to be great. It's going to be so cool. And you're going to see regular dudes that are playing video games with professional athletes. And the whole world's going to come together. And it's going to be this great thing. You share the passion. And then these pierced nipple bitches are in their bathtubs trying to draw 10-year-olds over to fucking OnlyFans. And you have to come, like, make a rule.

But whatever rule you make, you're going to look like a hypocrite because it's going to stop you, stop your Twitch users from doing something else. Ugh, it's exhausting. Yeah. But if you're, and Twitch is also owned by Amazon, so you got to just be on the safe side of everything. And that's the other thing, because, like, they're not making money on Twitch. Yeah.

They're making money from Amazon. So you're a trillion dollar company, and now you got to worry about your brand being tarnished by these bathtub bitches. Yeah. So you would think a brand like that would just play it overly safe, because this is a loss leader for us. We're just trying to get in market share, getting this thing, whatever it is. But I'm not taking, I don't want my main business to take a hit off of this. So we're going to be overly safe. And if that costs us some users, who cares? We need Amazon Web Services to be killing it.

We need Amazon, the website, to be killing it. This Twitch thing is fifth on our list of income streams. Yeah. Anyway, it is what it is. So it'll be interesting to see what happens with this. Because he's like, look, Twitch paid me out. They didn't think it was that egregious. Like, YouTube is cool with it.

Da-da-da-da. They got sent to this exploitation board for the government. They didn't think it was that egregious like youtube is is cool with it they got sent to this uh exploitation board for the government they didn't investigate it so oh so it's not that big a deal so why not i think come out and say exactly what it was i think that's his position but then everyone's kind of saying that like yo just release the messages yo release that shit because we're assuming the worst i wonder if anytime pedophilia gets thrown around we're assuming the worst and if you say inappropriate messages we're deeming what we think are inappropriate messages yeah right maybe this is just enough room for interpretation that he's like ah people might think xyz whether he intended to or not i don't know our brains are always going

to go to the worst possible scenarios but and in 2017 if he said oh i was being unfaithful then that means there was an encounter that's also true that's also true there was an encounter. That's also true. That's also true. There's an encounter somewhere. Yeah. Yeah, you're not being, like, emotionally unfaithful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you are with a kid, that's just as fucked. Well, apparently there's no proof of an encounter thus far. Sure, sure, sure. But still, like, if he has to address that and his wife is upset about it,

then there has to be something of a sexual issue. Maybe that's just what he said so he didn't have to say the real reason. That's... Yeah. No, that's just crazy. He says he didn't have to say the real reason that's yeah he says nothing illegal happened no pictures were shared no crimes were committed even though i never met the individual i even i went through lengthy arbitration regarding a civil dispute with twitch the case was resolved by a settlement let me be clear it was not a criminal case against me no criminal charges have ever been brought against me okay but that is that doesn't say i didn't do anything who cares we got Who cares? We got to talk about something else. It's too weird.

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So they basically set the situation up for him to go play for the Lakers with LeBron. And almost immediately, I saw these big media figures coming out and instead of being critical of the fact that this happened, exposing other nepotism in sports. Yeah. Coming to like the defense of Bronny and LeBron and the Lakers.

Yeah. They talk about nepotism in the back office. Yeah. They talk about nepotism on other teams. Yeah. I think Giannis' brother plays with the Bucs. Yeah. But it's really interesting to me.

Like it shows, in my opinion, the power of LeBron. Yes. Because the easiest story, the most salacious story is to go at this situation and completely undercut the fact that they drafted him. Yeah. And they are defending the decision. Yeah. And making good arguments. I mean, nepotism is right right rife all over the nba yeah like there's so many coaches whose dad were coaches everywhere if the second you have anything like i have a daughter i want to give her fucking everything i can't wait to know yeah yeah i can't wait to nip it so it is i understand why it's frustrating if you don't have kin. Yeah. Or I understand why it's frustrating if your parents didn't have something to give you. Because you're like, whoa, look at that unfair advantage.

Yeah. That that person has. 100%. But you can't blame a parent for wanting to provide for their kid. I should have looked this up. GM of the Mavericks, the old GM of the Mavericks, Donnie Nelson, his dad was Don Nelson, the head coach of the Mavericks. What a fucking surprise that had.

I mean, this is all over the coaching positions of the league but i should have looked this up but is part of the definition of nepotism like a person who doesn't deserve it no it's related just related oh so then i mean the the subtext is they don't deserve it i mean yeah but it doesn't deserve it but if it's a part of the definition then we should encourage it butism. But, no, I mean. In all industries. If, if you earned it, like, for example, nobody said Clay Thompson

is a, a nepo baby. Is a nepo baby. His dad was in the league, Michael Thompson. No one says Steph Curry is a nepo baby. Yeah.

Right? Like, their parents were both in the league. Right? There are plenty of people who have, you know, relatives.

Even Seth Curry is a contributor valuable contributor on teams yeah so brawny did not brawny might have a successful nba career i don't know what he showed so far is that there's no reason for him to get drafted even in his draft workouts they were going through him they were like he kind of shot shitty and it's like his only thing is to be three and d right he doesn't have the ball handling skills and passing skills to really be a point guard. He's an undersized 2, and he wasn't even shooting the ball that well.

So he didn't really exemplify somebody who would want to draft even in the second round, but he got drafted. Who cares? So what? But let's not make up the fact that there was a little help here. I think it proves that no one ever really cared about nepotism. You know what I mean? Go with that. When the whole thing came out,

when that Nepo Baby article first dropped in 2017, 2018 or whatever, everyone was pissed. Oh, nepotism's everywhere, da-da-da. I don't think anyone ever really cared. I think it just wasn't a thing that benefited them or their community. So people were like, oh, this is fucked up. Yeah, it's white privilege. It's the same argument.

That's why. No one really cared sometimes sometimes but other people really but now that everyone could benefit from nepotism or now that more people could benefit from nepotism i think everyone's gonna be like a little nepotism is fine i've said this about i've said this about um uh what you know white privilege in hollywood or whatever it's it is the perfect or white privilege in any industry it is the perfect argument if you're not a white person to give yourself more opportunity yeah right you're like hey these white people are just hiring white people and that's fucked up and that's indicative of racism i'm not white so

that'd be really awesome if you hire me i have to i have to find a competitive advantage i don't have the nepotism they have the nepotism or they have the whiteness or whatever the fuck it is so i have to make that look bad i have to make that look radioactive so i get opportunity i get what you're saying but i and not to switch topics but the reason why i support nepotism now because i'm like this is a motivation for you to achieve something where you can actually pass it down to you again so it's like i think everybody should be people who are anti-nepotism would argue that that lane is blocked because of nepotism you see what i'm saying yeah i mean you can always make your own and then to the pull yourself up by your boots but i'm also so to me i i didn't like the I had a thing on his butt. You should have let him try it out.

That's racist. But I'm also, so to me, I didn't like the white casting shit when minorities did it. Because once we started getting all the roles, then instead of being like, hey, guys, we just wanted to be fair. All of a sudden they'd be like, oh, I'm sorry, white man, are you not getting the roles? And it's like, oh, you didn't want fairness. You just wanted to be the white man. Yeah. That drives me crazy.

And I will say the nepo baby argument is just, it's just like jujitsu or whatever. Y'all got nepotism. How do I flip this? It's your advantage. How do I flip it to make it my advantage and your disadvantage? Yeah. Which straight up argument, that's a fucking great way to do it. Yeah. That's a great way to flip the advantage and that's what you're supposed to do.

Yeah. I don't subscribe to that idea largely, but like, I also think with Bronny, we're all so excited. First of all, it's a few things. One, like you said, media's on his side because they can't lose LeBron because Jordan proved if you fuck with us, we could just not give your publication any love, and ESPN needs LeBron. So media's on his side. Two,

I think we all just want to see a father and son play in the same crowd. Fucking awesome. That outweighs any nepotism. And it's the second round. The Mavs drafted an Indian Punjabi guy six years ago that I knew would never play in the league. And Mark Cuban was like, we just made a billion fans. Fire. I love that. It's late in the second round.

Who gives a fuck? If he went number nine, we'd have a problem with it. So it's not like the Lakers aren't going to sell out every game. They are because LeBron's on the team. But if you look at it as a financial decision it's not nepotism correct i want if i'm brawny that's what i would say i go guys this is a financial decision like there are people that really want to see us playing the game together it's going to get so many clips even if it's for 30 seconds yeah it's going to blow things up when

we go to it's not only just when we go to other cities they're going to sell out because my dad is going to do that, but around the world, if you're interested in the game, you're going to want to see this. They're probably going to pay me the league minimum for a second-round rookie, and they're going to make $20 million off of that. This is a business decision. I would say that, and then you shut everybody up about skill. Then that just steps on all your hard work. It's like I work so hard to get to the league.

And the only reason why I'm getting signed, just because it's going to sell some more tickets. But people know what the hard work did, right? Like four points and like three assists and like one rebound. Like we understand the merit and the merit isn't sufficient. So we're never going to look at you as if you're here for merit until you start balling in the league. If you start balling your ass off in the league, we shut the fuck up. It absolutely could happen. And he's going to get touches because

please believe if you want to be on Bron's good side, if Bronny comes in the game, you're going to feed him the ball. Don't you think I fucks with his psyche a little bit that he's like, damn, I wasn't good enough to actually make it to the league. Bro, he's dealt with that his whole life. His entire life. There is nobody more comfortable. Exactly. there's nobody more comfortable thinking that people are

doing things for him just because of his dad than lebron james jr you got a point so i think he's i think he's almost like built a callousness to it in terms of like he i imagine he doesn't resent it he goes this is the world i live in i accept it and i gotta do my best to go out there who it's probably why hoops is so nice to him because at the end of the day his dad can't shoot the ball for him he got to go out there and ball yeah you know what i mean like yeah but doesn't this happen this not exactly the same but similar where like a guy will be close to breaking all-time scoring record or some type of crazy record and people won't play d as hard if it's like a regular season game right they said that about home run records right right right right michael strahan sack record in the nfl brett farve just like gave up the last set and there's kind of

like a gentlemanness to it where it's like look this doesn't really matter it's good for the game for you to get this thing after you make the point or the sack the game stops and they throw fucking confetti and shit because it's just kind of good for the pageantry of the game and i kind of feel like it's the same thing where like it's good for the game as a whole to see the greatest of all time, arguably the greatest, with his son playing for a season. That's awesome. It's amazing. I'm a Laker hater, but now they've got a coach that I love,

and they've got a father-son duo playing. I'm so excited to watch a Laker game. And I don't think they're going to contend for anything. Not this year, but I'm excited to watch it. And I think it's awesome for everyone except people who are better than him in college that they're looking at, yo, he took much. But it's one spot

on 30 teams. I'm just saying, if you were one of those people, you would feel it. Yeah, I would. I think there was some post and it was about another guy that was on USC. You saw when he dropped like 14 a game and he didn't get drafted. That is what it is. Maybe he'll go play in Europe somewhere. Maybe he won't.

Maybe he'll coach. Who knows what he's going to do with his life. But this is the nature of things, guys. But Bronny scoring five a game didn't impact him scoring 14 a game. You know what I mean? Like he could have scored 30 a game. 100%. And also the thing I would say is like before we criticize this situation,

I want everybody to think about how they got every job in their life how they got every apartment in their life how they got every uh bottle service at a club and they're like nepotism or cronyism is the other term when you're not related cronyism has benefited you too everybody gets everything because of the people they know yeah that is the nature get better cronies bro that's just real talk if you don't got shit better cronies, bro. That's just fine. Real talk. If you don't got shit, your cronies suck. Chris Rock said that about Bill Clinton writing like a letter

recommendation for Monica Lewinsky. He said something like, that's his friend. How many of you guys got a job because your friend recommended you? And I remember, I'm 15 or 16

or whatever and watched it and I'm like, yeah, that's a great point. Even I knew that back then. My first job was a friend. Target. That's how I got it. I actually hope

Bronny balls out. I would love it. Target. Yeah, how I got it. I actually hope Bronny balls out. I would love it. Yeah, I hope Bronny balls out, dude. I would love it. And if anybody can bring the best out of him, it's his dad.

Yeah. And nepotism's not always bad. I mean, fucking Bollywood is like the most nepotism. That's what the nepo baby thing that we've been talking about for decades. It's awesome.

All nepotism. Now it's shifting, but back when I was growing up, it's all nepotism. Yeah. Do you think LeBron gets the senior on the back of his jersey? Fuck yeah. That's got to be so cool.

I mean, if they just want to sell more jerseys, yes. Yeah, switch it up. James Sr., he's old as hell. LeBron's number is nine, right? Six. Six and nine. Bronny's nine, bro. That shit is so funny.

That's a little weird. 69 with your dad, bro. They thought out everything, but that. Not a six, Ronnie. If you sell them together, bro, that shit is awesome. Nah, they got to do junior and senior because parents would do that. Yes. Like if you got a kid, you're going to get the dad jersey and then the son jersey.

Yeah, this is. 69 with your family, bro. You got the Celtics winning championships and the Lakers aren't. Again, I think Redick will make them really good, but not this year. But they're not good, but you got fucking father-son playing the greatest of all time, maybe with the son. No, this is going to be good. Like, what a time for the league.

Yeah. The two anchor franchises. Ugh, PR through the roof. Yeah, it's fire. Yeah, no, no. It's interesting. This is the reaction to it. I was shocked, man.

I think, honestly, LeBron owes Michael Jordan a thank you for this. These ESPN—remember when Sports Illustrated I was shocked, man. I think, honestly, LeBron owes Michael Jordan a thank you for this. Remember when Sports Illustrated I was referencing? Michael Jordan plays baseball. Sports Illustrated writes an article with a cover that says, Bag it, Michael. Basically insulting him for playing baseball. Michael Jordan never talks about Sports Illustrated again. ESPN is looking at this like, do we want to

insult LeBron for this or do we want LeBron to like us? And then George Carl, I think his son played. So like there's nepotism all over the week. Now we got to call it out everywhere. Let's just support this and we're good. We keep LeBron. We don't piss off other execs and we got to call out later. We're good. I'm going to throw out an allegedly

on this one because I have no proof to back it up. Oh, this is going to be good. Yeah. It's going to be juicy. Feelings. So I'm sure you guys have seen there was an article that came out talking about how, like, Jordan's stats were inflated. Oh! Did you see that? I haven't read the article, but I've heard about it.

So, there's a few articles that came out talking about Jordan's stats were inflated. There's, like, lots of content online talking about how, like, oh, Jordan really wasn't that nice. There are, like, people reviewing old Jordan clips and, like, saying, oh, look, there was no defense back in the day, yada, yada, yada. viewing old Jordan clips and like saying, oh, look, there was no defense back in the day, yada, yada, yada. But what they did is they reviewed footage and then compared them to the stats that the Chicago Bulls had delivered to the NBA.

Yeah. And they found a discrepancy. Oh, there was less rebounds, less assists, et cetera. Especially the year he won defensive player of the year, they would just award him skills that he didn't get. That he didn't get. Now. Oh, shit.

One, the reaction is, oh, shit. Yeah shit yeah two this is what i heard and this could be absolute bullocks i heard bron's team is behind that i love that i love that oh i love that behind outing it oh okay i love that because what did jordan do as soon as LeBron won with the Cavs he said let's drop this last dance shit like if y'all oh they're competing the fact that LeBron did the movie probably drove Jordan fucking crazy

that's funny Jordan is a dog competing 30 years out of league LeBron got that dog in him too he's still in it though he's still in it so it makes sense he's got a legacy to protect Jordan's just in it though. He's still in it. So it makes sense. It's like, yeah, he's got a legacy to protect. He's got a legacy to make.

Like Jordan's just doing it for like just protection. But the fact that he's trying to, I'm not saying he is, but allegedly is behind tarnishing Jordan's accomplishments that he knows that he won't beat so that he can have the better numbers. Like if we stop believing in Jordan's numbers, now you can make the argument that maybe LeBron is the greatest of all time.

You can. Yeah, but then it's like, Jordan's rings aren't padded. Sex! And here's the other thing. 100%. I said this years ago, when LeBron, I think, went to LA, and now that he's staying in LA, and I love, I think Reddick's gonna be great, blah blah blah, love that he's playing with the sun, but the fact that he's not chasing the best team, and he's like, well, I'm just gonna retire in this beautiful, sunny place. And I love, I think Redick's going to be great. Blah, blah, blah. Love that he's playing with the Sun. But the fact that he's not chasing the best

team, and he's like, well, I'm just going to retire in this beautiful, sunny place. I get it. But I do think Jordan would never have done that. Like, LeBron knows they're not, they don't got a team to win the ring. Jordan would have benched his kid immediately. But Jordan would have gone to a team like, I don't know, maybe the Sixers,

where there's an MVP candidate right there, or whatever. Dude, the Nuggets wanted him three years ago. Or whenever he went to the Lakers. Can you imagine LeBron and Jokic? Get the fuck out of here. To me, that would have been the Jordan move. I do think back in the day, there was a bit more loyalty to organizations. He went on to the best team. LeBron went to the best location.

So, do you think he would have went to the best team, or do you think that his competitive instinct would have been like, I'm not going to just join a good team. I'm going to beat that team. He was like, he needed Phil, he needed Scotty, he went and got Rodman. I need the best support. I'm going to be the alpha, but we're going to have a great team, and he made it

very clear. If Scotty's gone, if Phil is gone, I'm not coming back. I just don't see Jordan joining a super team. I could see him make one, but I don't think he'd be like, oh, they're the best team? I'll just go and be on that. I think he'd go to the best team where he's still the best player. Does that make sense? He's still the alpha.

He's not going to go to. He's always going to be the best. Exactly. So I think he's going to be like, all right, well, let's go to the best supporting cast. I'm not going to go to this team where they don't have one. You get what I'm saying, right? I get what you're saying, but I mean, again. His ego wouldn't allow him to admit that there's another team better.

I think he would go to a better situation than the Lakers. I mean, he went to the Wizards. Yeah, but that's just... He went to the worst team. I mean, he couldn't lose at owning a team. So let me just get the fuck out on the court. If he didn't own the Wizards, he don't play on the Wizards. Yeah, and then after losing, he was like,

I need to get out of this team. Yes, 1,000%. There's nothing that can make this team win. Yeah, 1,000%. Yeah, there's some cool drama going on in the NBA. The NBA is cooking right now in the offseason. Yeah, a thousand percent. Yeah, it's there's some cool drama going on in the NBA. Like, the NBA is cooking right now in the offseason. Yeah. Like, this draft specifically, there's this

story, I don't know if you guys are reading it. The Utah story? Did you read about it? I heard about it on... So that's a no? No, I heard shouts to Jake and Dan, my boys that we helped break non-compete clauses all over the country. So do you want

to break down break it down a little bit so you can fill in any gaps that i have but there is a player who played for duke well what's his name again filipowski filipowski cal filipowski yeah so he there's a podcast with uh zach low who's an nba savant knows everything he has this guy on who's a scout he was getting molested by his babysitter, and then she groomed him, and now she's divided him from his family, and he's going to play for the Utah Jazz. Yeah. That's the quick of it.

Now, apparently he dropped in the draft because of it. Because of this. That's what I'm saying. That's why it's interesting. So the girl, I think, is like seven years older than him. I think she maybe babysat him. They say that she used... Macron, right?

Yeah, I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. So when it used... They went to prom together. Now, he's apparently 18 at prom. She's 25, I think, or something like that. But they didn't meet on prom night. They probably were talking when he was 17, 16. No, I think she babysat him. There's a picture of her as a babysitter with them.

That's crazy. Yeah, so it's like they're saying that she groomed him and I don't know. I mean, yeah, it's grooming, but I think she basically sought a meal ticket. She's like, they're saying that she groomed him. And I don't know. I mean, yeah, it's grooming. But I think she basically sought a meal ticket. She's like, this motherfucker, this seven-foot white boy is going to the NBA. I'm locking this motherfucker down. I got dick-sucking skills seven years advanced.

He never felt nothing like this. I remember when I was 18 years old, there was this girl who was 30 sucking my dick. And I was like, this is the most incredible thing I've ever seen in my entire life. I was like, 30-year-old bitches are back. Yeah, she'd been in the league bro she wrote for cosmopolitan and i told my friend i was like yo this girl's crazy he goes have you ever read cosmopolitan and he was like i was like nah he's like it's all about dick suckers she better be good yeah put your fucking money where the original hawk too that's the original one so these girls got skills that these young bucks know nothing about she came in and apparently used some mormonism so that's what the so her somebody was like it went down the rabbit hole this 30 second conversation on zach low then the

guy's brother makes an account philipowski's brother is like yo you have no idea how deep this goes look up mormon grooming for a little more information and that's apparently i haven't looked it up that's apparently what it is she's grooming him indoctrinating him into mormonism ironically he gets drafted by the fucking jazz of all places ironic i mean yeah he fell far in the draft yeah but the jazz where the jazz like well fit right in is that what it was yeah okay fair enough but you don't think the draft want the jazz want the mormon kid oh yeah that's true but he's not mormon yet is he yeah i mean she's she got him in the mormon shit crazy story dude this is mormon recruitment tactic yeah like yo how do we get players send some honeypot yeah exactly after

these little teeny bobbers they saw britney renner and they're like oh we got to get our own little you know our little guys can we look at a picture of this girl yeah no she's bad she's worth it yeah yeah it's not like he's getting fucked over anything like that like shorty's worth it but it is disgusting like if this happened if the genders were reversed this would be crazy oh my god yeah oh she's absolutely insane she got crazy eyes oh she's she's insane that's an insane girl yeah you could tell yeah but also she's babysitting him right he's probably 12 but he got crazy meat because he's so tall so she's looking at it she's like yo this is gonna get so much bigger right now this is a house of dragon you did this is a game of thrones

i said the words i didn't think about it y'all was thinking about meat You're still thinking about it I'm not You said meat You did say meat You said meat You can't say a word Without thinking about it That was wild When I say meat I'm thinking about

Don't get this off of him That was wild Don't get this off of him Tell your old dicks That was wild You got the mustache already You just need the wig And the glasses

I swear to God You like You call this you I swear That's smart You call this you. I swear to God. You call this you. You gotta go in. He likes boys, yo.

I said big for 12, bro. Why you no frame of reference? Because I'm big 12, dummy. So you know just yours? Yeah. Hey, Schultz. Wait a minute, you don't know what your dick looked like at 12? I don't remember, yo. Hey, Schultz. Wait a minute. You don't know what your dick

looked like at 12? I don't remember, yo. That was 28 years ago. You don't remember your 12-year-old dick? I don't remember my 12-year-old dick. I don't think about

12-year-old dick. You're a fucking dick, bro. Yo, that sucks, man. Yo, this guy's a dick. What do you mean you don't remember?

Who remembers their dick 28 years ago? He was a little fatter back then. He couldn't see it. Oh, that's fair. That's fair. That's fair.

But yeah, you remember being a child and playing with your dick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't. Are you really doing this thing? Oh, yeah. Absolutely, I'm doing this thing. What is the thing you're doing? Trying to make you look like a pedophile.

Yeah. Why would I be a pedophile if I don't know what my dick looks like? The fact that you don't know what your dick looks like makes me think you like kids. Because you look at so many other dicks, you're like, I got them confused. I got no clue. You would only know one dick. You can't remember one? No, not 28 years ago. I remember

my dick yesterday, today. What about 10 years ago? It probably looks similar to what it does now. Yeah, when did dicks stop growing? Mine got smaller. It grew back. I what it does now. Yeah, when did dicks stop growing? Mine got smaller. I think mine grew fat. I think it went back in. Well, I just got fatter.

I had to Google it. I was like, I think I got less hand on my dick. Oh, really? Because I think I used to have more hands on my dick, and now I have less. So I'm like, is it possible? I literally Googled it. Do your dicks get smaller? I asked a doctor.

I was like, is it possible your dick gets smaller? And the doctor was like, no, you just gain weight. Because the last time I heard you were 20 pounds less. And so your stomach is growing out and taking some dick away. Damn. That's great. Yeah, the best motivation for it. You talk about you have a little dick all the time.

Losing weight would make your dick big. I know. Or do you want to keep your dick at 12? I like it at 12 dude i like it i like it that's what you gotta say how big is your dick 12 just say that that's it man okay so so uh i don't know it does get smaller it does get smaller right as you get older uh build up a fatty deposits and your arteries reduce blood flow to your penis why does it go to your dick? You should get more fat in your dick. They should figure out a way to do that.

They do. Fat transfers to your dick. They do. BDL. Really? Yeah. You get the BDLs. BDL.

I mean, if women can get a dick sewn on, you don't think that we can get ours a little bigger? Yeah, that's true. Isn't that crazy? That's true. That's a good point, actually. That is a good point. What is the average size of a penis that a woman gets put on? A trans? We should be able to... Trans men.

Yeah. We should be able to dictate that. Chosen. Didn't even want to say it, but I did. They should be national average, which I think is like... No, if you get to choose, you're going big. Nah.

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Let's get back to the show. What y'all thought about... Put your big fat butt dick on you, sir. Even if you're wet. What y'all thought about Rosé getting jumped in Vancouver? That was wild. Yeah, that was wild. I don't know why he played the song, though. I don't know why you're playing

that song. So, I was thinking about this. Can you explain what happened? So, Rick Ross went to Vancouver, and he was doing, I guess, a show out there. There was like a festival or something that he was a part of. And then he played... Not Like Us. Not Like Us. And some beef ensues. I guess

he gets off the stage or whatever. They're backstage. Some people are tussling. He gets swung on, and then all of his bodyguards get beat the shit out of it and he gets moved to another section and then dj got beat up dj got fucked up like but here's the question okay rick ross hey the immediate question is why would he play Not Like Us, right? I had that same question. He can't not. If he doesn't play it, he's pussy. After talking all this shit about Drake, he got to bare minimum play his diss on Drake. And if he really is the guy he says he is,

he got to play the song that you shouldn't play. Because he still performs his songs with Drake. Oh, that's right. Those are some of his biggest songs. I imagine they're his biggest, yeah. So he has the same set everywhere he goes. Those are still included. So you don't want to get called out by Drake,

be like, you're still using me for a sentence, so now I got to have a little balance. That's a good point. That's why. Do you think it's really a story if he doesn't play not like us like how many people really notice how big does that story really get i don't think it's a story and i think you're right about that but i think his mentality is i'm gonna bully him i'm gonna call him white boy i'm gonna say he's corny i'm gonna go into his hood and then i'm gonna do whatever the fuck i want and i think he wanted

the clip of him playing not like us in Canada and nothing happened. Of course. And of course. And something happened. But does it look bad for him? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I think it actually looks really bad.

His crew got fucked up. I mean, his crew got destroyed, demolished. Like he got escorted out like just barely. Like he was hiding behind barricades. This is like, I'm Ricky Rose. I'm tough. You're a little bitch you're a pussy you're white but like he's really talking shit to drake and it's not even

in toronto yeah he's in vancouver that's what's right he got snuffed by a white dude i know all that white boy talk you get snuffed by the white dude i know that's wow so it was tiny kids i was fucking him up too i mean so i i do think it's not a good look. 50 Cent's already on it. 50's already dropping shit. 50 to love. Oh, he's dead. It's incredible. So I do not think it's the best look. Yeah, and Drake's whole weapon this whole time has been humor.

Yeah. Like, it hasn't been tough. Rick Ross or Drake? Rick. Sorry, I said Drake. Yeah, yeah. Rick Ross' weapon of choice this whole time with Drake in his feud has been humor. And it's effective.

Just being funny. It's tough shit. You don't need to do it. Also, these guys are huge. You assume they can fight. We don't know that. Get UFC fighting ass bodyguards. There was one guy there that was so fucking big, dude.

It was unbelievable. He was a mountain. The dude got fucked up? The black guy that got absolutely demolished. He got folded. I didn't understand what was happening at first. I was like, where's security? And then I read and i read a comment i was like oh that's the security i was like that's not good they're usually supposed to just be a deterrent you see a

giant man you don't want to do anything yeah but you know they're big for a reason sometimes they gas out quick yeah and one time in a gut and might go down the other thing you got to consider is canada this whole beef has been basically getting called pussy this whole time. They're going to take that away. Even if they are pussy to us, they're going to try to prove to you we're not pussy. Fuck you. Oh, yeah. They're down bad.

They're Lord and Savior. It's like looking funny. Apparently, you don't get love in Toronto like he used to at all. But you're just going to keep calling us pussy. We've been made a joke of this whole time fuck that even if we don't fuck with him we're gonna it's like my family if i'm beefing with my family and you say something about him well now let's go and if you start calling our family pussy it's on gotcha so what do you think happened though do you think drake was like oh

ross is gonna be in canada we gotta send some people to go make sure he acts right or do you think people were just there and they were like ah ah, not yet? I think the latter. I think Drake would send goons, but I don't think those are Drake goons. I'm more towards it, first of all. Really? Yeah. Yeah. What?

Of course. You're coming to my sake? It don't need to come from Drake even. I know. Like, I don't think he ever said it. What I think is that the message is out. I think if Rick Ross goes there and he just plays his songs and then leaves and he's not disrespectful, probably nothing happens. Maybe he gets checked a little.

Keep in mind, when Pusha T was in Toronto, what happened? They booed him, I think. They threw the water at the stage. And I think he got almost attacked on stage. Rick Ross had to know this was coming. There's no question. This is how it goes down. You have to look at Canada like a state.

It's not a country. It's a state. And if you come to that state and you fuck with the governor, you get touched. I think everyone involved in that beef that was against Drake, they'll have problems whenever they go to Canada.

I'm really curious to see what happens when Weeknd goes to Canada. Hmm. I don't know if anything will happen to Weeknd. He's the biggest pop artist in the world right now. Oh, I see. But he's intimately involved in this beef with Drake. I'm sure he got people

that are supporting him in Toronto. And I'm sure that he got people that are supporting him in toronto and i'm sure that there's people that are supporting drake and by people i mean goons on both sides yeah they're gonna clash i think it's neutral i feel like it cancels out is my guess nope you don't think there's too much to gain like if you're a goon it's a mess bro yeah it's like nice hamilton like you know hamilton the play, I'm going to get my shot. He wants the war. Yeah. Because that gives him an opportunity to rise up.

Yeah. The goons are looking at this like, this is my opportunity to rise up. It's my opportunity to shine. Yeah, I don't think Kendrick goes to Canada. I think he's just like, we're not, I'm not even sure. I don't even think Kendrick. I don't even think Kendrick.

I'm saying the Canadians. This Canadians is going back. Yeah. You've got to is going back. Yeah. You've got to see your family. The Weeknd was at the show in LA, right? I don't think he went on, obviously, on stage, but I believe he was there. Here's what I'm, like, Drake liking the post and all that. It's like, dude, you're just making this.

Liking which post? Apparently, Drake liked the post of Rick Ross getting beaten up on somebody's page. liked that post that's far yeah but no no i don't i don't the move of it sure that's funny do that but also like you're just escalating things we saw this play out 96 97 people died escalating it adding fuel to it making it seem like you co-signed it i don't think that's a good move because you got to go and i don't know know if Ross is super connected in Miami, but you got to go to Miami. Miami looks pussy. You got to go all over California. California is riding for the West super hard. I would

just at least act like you, even if you knew, don't like shit, don't be public about it, just fall back and be like, hey man, that's just Canada riding. I can control that. You got a point. You're throwing fuel on a thing that I don't know you want to throw fuel on. And I know Drake rolls heavy with security and they could probably fight better than ross's security but why make it harder why make it harder egos but i will you know you bring up an interesting

point which is like the financial repercussions of this let's say for example i don't think any of them would adhere to this because you know drake went and did the show in philly immediately after the milk milk milk beef so like i don't think it's gonna think any of them would adhere to this because, you know, Drake went and did the show in Philly immediately after the Meek Mill beef. So, like, I don't think it's going to stop any of them. And I think that there is, like, a false sense of security when you do roll around with that much security. Do you know that you can stop someone in the Bay if he goes? No. You got enough money, you can hire the right people.

Yeah. Because then you get cops. Once you have undercover cops, you're good. Yeah, because nobody wants to fuck with the cops because if you fuck up a cop, then you're going to life. And they're the most expensive security. So I think that, again, you will have that kind of confidence that you can operate whatever. But to what you were saying, beefing with a certain person that restricts your ability to go tour in that area ends up becoming very expensive. You know what I mean? Like, let's say us as stand-ups.

Like, let's say we are beefing with some place and we now can't tour all of Florida. Yeah. All of Canada. Like, you could actually calculate how much money you're going to lose because of that beef. Yeah. And Cali is one of the wealthier states in terms of amount of spending power. You don't think? I'm agreeing with you 100%.

It's the largest economy in the world. California by itself, as Miles just said Yeah, the largest economy in the world. Yeah, California by itself, as Miles just said, is the largest economy in the world. Meaning, if you're Drake, you could go and do an arena in San Diego,

an arena in Orange County, an arena in LA, an arena in... San Francisco. San Francisco. Sacramento. Sacramento. Sacramento.

And inland shit is what, you could, he won't cut all that off. He'll get the right security, but it is expensive. That's going to cost him. And that security is not cheap. And you got houses out there, like. Oh, you not hanging it.

You can't even go home. And this was, I honestly, look. For what? I loved Kendrick's, all the moves and the beef. But the one thing I was a little worried about was when he said that, you think the bagel that you disrespect Pac thing. I was like, you're just, this is really asking people to...

That was, yeah. I was like, this could go very far left. If people don't know, hey, this is all entertainment, there's always idiots out there. That's some Taylor Swift shit. That was the one thing about it I didn't like. I didn't love that line, and I've supported pretty much every movie made, but that line I didn't love.

I remember Taylor did that shit to Scooter. To Scooter, yeah. Let them know how you feel. Let Scooter Braun know how you feel. And you're invoking your audience to go act on your behalf. Now, some of your audience, if you have millions of followers, are going to be mentally retarded. Yes.

But they love you so much they'll do anything for your support. They're retarded for you. For you. Yeah. You're their, you're their king. Yeah, yeah. So.

But in a rap beef, why do you guys not like the line? Because I think it's inciting, because I think we love the beef as long as it's not violent. Nas and Jay-Z was the best because it wasn't, it didn't get violent as far as we knew.

Pac and Big, we look at like, fuck, man, people died over that. That was so stupid. He also doesn't say, you're not going to come to the Bay. He says, it's going to be your last stop. Yeah. You think the Bay can let you disrespect Pac? And you're basically saying, yo, the Bay, you're pussy if you let him disrespect Pac. Yeah.

He's basically saying, if you don't do something. I didn't. But then he's also calling Drake pussy if he doesn't go to the Bay. Yeah. He's, he's busy saying, if you don't do something, I didn't, but then he's also calling Drake pussy. If he doesn't go to the bed. Yeah. Right. Oof. So it's like,

I'm a fan dude. I love again, but that fucking line, I kept thinking in the back of my mind, I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm a fan.

I'm a 69 guy. You got to make that my bully handle. But, fuck man. What are you, that line. I was like, that could, handle. But, fuck, man. What are you... That line, I was like, that could escalate things. And it seems like this might... I fear this is the domino that starts to escalate.

And that's why I'm like, Drake, why are you liking this? This is only going to go up from here. Cease fire now is what we need. Cease fire now, dog. Yeah. I don't want to see nobody die behind me. That would be a good song. Drake drop that song.

Collab. Cease fire now. That's what we need. Drake need a banger, bro. I haven't heard this Camilla one that much. It has not. It's not outside at all. Yeah.

He dropped a couple so far, and neither one really. I told you he should just be quiet for a while, man. But I've heard this theory. I don't know if this is true. But apparently, it's possible that he might be contractually obligated to be a part of certain projects as a part of his deal. And he has to continue to put out these tracks that are scheduled for the summer. That is true.

They got scheduled six months ago. And so now he's like, I should lay low, but I've already committed to this thing with Camilla, and so it has to go out. I've already committed to this thing. It has to go out. That is true. And that would be... Because they made this track a minute ago, before this beef even started. Yeah. And maybe it got held off two months because it's minute ago, before this beef even started. Yeah.

And maybe it got held off two months because it's like, oh, it's really hot right now. And that is what happens when you're the biggest artist in the world, is that you're not going to just make a song on a whim based on how you feel. Things are scheduled throughout the year. Your time is so non-existent

that they need to schedule these things like that. Gotcha. So now you're losing money to delay or to break contract. I don't even know if you can break contract, but you're money and it's like how long do you wait for it's also imagine what those artists were thinking during this beef because before the beef they're like i got a song with drake that's gonna come out this summer i'm gonna be the biggest artist in the world and then your career yeah that's crazy but that was a part of the that was a thing in the beef

where Rick Ross was mad at Drake because Drake apparently didn't allow French to put out a song that he was on and that was one of those things

put out a cease and desist yeah and sent him a cease and desist and so Drake so he's fucking up the bread exactly and now Rick is upset because yeah

I figured that as well where like Rick don't really like if if the money's right, Rick don't care. Yeah. That's what it seems like to me. Yeah.

That's one of the ones I really want to know his reasoning for his beef with Drake. Because it can't be even the friendship. Like, it got to be something. Well, he represented Meek Mill. Meek Mill was his client. He manages Meek. But he didn't play any sides during the beef. Exactly.

He didn't stick up for me. Yeah, yeah. Nobody stuck up. And this is honestly what Rick Ross should have done, which is what he did, I think, the day after he dropped the Drake diss, is he performed the songs he did with Drake, I think, at like a high school prom or some shit and just leaned into the humor. If he went to Canada and just leaned into the humor and did all the songs with Drake and then made a joke about it.

Well, Al was saying he still does the songs. Yeah, so just make the joke of it. Put that clip up. Got it. Hey, Drake, I still need these. He's one-off humor this whole time. You can't. I know the ego gets there,

but I would have loved it. That would have been funny. This, I'm legit concerned about where this goes. I might just be 40. No, no, no. No, you're actually speaking facts. You know, while we're talking

about this music shit, there is a documentary that is on, and let me preface this by saying, what is the greatest concert I ever said I've been to? Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Greatest concert I've ever been to in my entire life was Taylor Swift. I say that Taylor Swift is Michael Jackson today. It's the closest thing we have to Michael Jackson. You call her mother. You call her mother. I call her mother. Much of the ire of the internet I've said that this is the closest thing we have to Michael Jackson.

Massive Taylor Swift fan. Was not a Taylor Swift fan until I went to that concert and then I saw it and I was like, this girl's the truth. This is just the most amazing concert I've ever seen. There's a documentary on Max right now that is HBO's streaming service. And I believe it's only two parts yeah and it is about bad blood bad blood but taylor swift and scooter braun now scooter is

our homie i just want to point this out yeah okay love scooter i tell him all the time that taylor is the greatest artist i've ever seen live? I've been telling him this for fucking years. 100%. I think he knew this while I was- He knew. He knew. Yeah, he knew. He invested.

He agrees. Yeah. I watched this documentary. It's a two-part documentary. One part is Taylor's side, one part is Scooter's side. Yes. That one's cool. You said it?

I watched it. You watched it. Okay. You guys should all watch this. Yes. That's cool. You said it? No, that's it. You watched it. Okay. You guys should all watch this. Yes. The fact that this document, keep this in mind, Taylor Swift is the biggest artist in history. She's factually the biggest artist in history. This documentary is almost impossible to find on Max.

Yeah. It's never hit number one on Max yeah this is let me clarify this again imagine at the height of michael jackson's career a documentary came out on one of the premier streaming services about michael jackson and nobody was talking about it wouldn't you go what's going on over here yeah it almost makes you think that there's some information in that documentary yep that taylor's team might not want the world to see and if you watch this documentary yep you will find out that scooter braun is a fucking asshole now. You will see that what we think happened. Yeah.

And what actually happened between Taylor and Scooter is a world apart. She framed a very different narrative than the reality. This girl, this girl is, she's truly brilliant. And she's incredibly genuine. Meaning, and the power of when someone is genuine is whenever they say something, you believe it to be true. When you watch her like on interview shows or even like on interview in the red carpet, whatever she says in that moment is the most pure, authentic, genuine thing. Like she melts you. It's amazing her ability to communicate. When you watch her just

talking to a single person, you see why she's so endearing and so likable. When Kanye calls her and asks her kind of for permission to do the song, but it's not even really, I think that was actually framed really poorly too. Even the way she's's on the phone she's not on the phone like the biggest artist in the world she's on the phone like a little girl that thinks that like she's gonna be bullied by her older cousin kanye stole her moment and she's not on stage like yelling she's just kind of like oh they asked her after that like how do you feel about that she was like oh wasn't that good she's like they're like were you a fan of kanye west and she goes yeah it's kanye west now there's a power to that and i also understand like what she represents to women is something that we'll never understand she is petty and women wish they were petty

they're not petty to that dude that fucked him over because they still want to get him they're still in love with them they're still heartbroken they wish that he would let her let them back into their lives not taylor taylor's coming out she's fucking clapping full she's putting the fucking they not like us treatment on every single dude she's with michael jordan she remembers everybody that wronged her and i'm going to fucking destroy you now what if i would posit this theory just from watching it and i implore you all to watch this because it paints a very very different story what if taylor was really upset at justin bieber steve borchetta or scott bor. Yeah, the guy who was the person

who originally owned the record label. Big Machine. Big Machine that Scooter ended up buying. What if the beef was with Justin Bieber, Scott Borchetta, and Kanye West? And the problem with Justin Bieber and Kanye West is they have fan bases, man. They have people who ride for them.

They have people who are ready to go to war, ready to fight, ready to sling death threats, ready to go out there and get active, just like Swifties are. Beliebers are out there. Kanye's fans, as we know, are fucking out there. Yeah. out there yeah what if the easiest person to make the scapegoat for all of your issues is the person who doesn't have the fan base yeah what if her ire for justin and her ire for kanye all gets funneled into scooter subconsciously or consciously i think it's i think that she is a brilliant woman and

she's calculating all these things in real time but justin was what would her beef be with justin i don't know he was dating selena and she was best friends with selena and like maybe it wasn't going that great with selena so she was like ah you're treating my girl shitty so i gotta go to war okay and also he was antagonistic like there's this moment in the doc where, like, I think this has been, like, you know, put all over the world. But, like, Justin posted a picture on Instagram of him FaceTiming Kanye Scooter and a DJ named Martin Garrix. And he goes, the caption of it is, what's up, Taylor? Yeah. So he's, like, antagonizing.

What a lot of people don't realize is, and they don't even say this in the doc that picture he took from martin garrick's instagram they didn't take the picture like the idea of the picture wasn't hey let's antagonize taylor the idea with the picture is hey all of us are together we're boys let's do it and then he took it from martin garrick's instagram and then use it to antagonize you look at it at it, Justin's the big image. Yeah. So it wasn't him that took it. Yeah. It was them that screenshotted Justin. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

But he's still antagonizing. That doesn't mean anybody can screen shot. Well, Justin is doing the antagonization, but it's not like Scooter, Kanye, and Justin are all coming together to antagonize. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.

But there's no smoke from Taylor to Justin. Yeah. I don't see the songs about Justin. Yeah. I don't see the songs about Justin. Yeah. I don't even see that many about Kanye, to be honest with you. She took some jabs. Yeah, she took some shots at him. But for as big a thing as she...

She could give that whole album to a motherfucker she dated for a week. And just light jabs to Kanye. She ain't give him no pussy, that's all. I think she is... That could be true. Is it also possible she's just an incredibly shrewd businesswoman and instead of paying for her masters, which apparently Scooter did offer

and there was a negotiation and she didn't love the price, instead of doing all that, you know what I could do for free? Rerecord everything, get my fans to buy it even more by weaponizing victimhood and now, not only do i not have to pay hundreds of million dollars millions for my masters i'm gonna make i'm gonna be a fucking billionaire so yeah 100 yes that move is fire so but here's the thing that's really

interesting about that move and even the documentary doesn't get this right we even need to go back in the math a little bit so obviously the big dispute is she has this big machine record label she's been signed with them for like 13 years or something like that uh she finally is done with her deal and uh she basically wants to buy her masters back big machine goes well we can do a workout so every new album that you give us will give you one of your old albums masters and uh they talk about there's also another one where it's a complete buyout and she's like you know what i don't want to do that okay now there's an important component that's happening during this time that nobody's aware of but i'll tell you guys in a second she goes i don't want them matter of fact it's okay okay she says she doesn't want her mask she

doesn't want there's email correspondence for all this okay now keep in mind, Taylor has said throughout this process, I never knew anything. They didn't even give me the opportunity. Her words are on video saying this. Is her dad in? Oh, we're going to get to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. While there's email correspondence saying otherwise. Now, her dad, once she signed with this record label, bought a like 3% share of the record label.

Yeah. Okay. So he is a shareholder and on the executive board now in the documentary they say he didn't want to um have to lie to his daughter about certain things so he denied uh opening all the emails he was on the executive board but he didn't open the emails but they placed one of the management people from taylor on the emails so the manager saw one of that manager guys who was on the team saw every single thing. Now, once it came out that there was email records of Taylor

knowing what was going on and her team knowing what was going on, and that information was not consistent with what Taylor was saying, that guy who was on those emails, that just so happened to retire okay maybe he was tired of his job maybe you no longer want to work for the bigger sellers of all time yeah or maybe you get put out to the pastor who fucking knows it doesn't matter point is she decides not to two ways to buy it out she decides not to. Two ways to buy it out. She decides not to. She signs to Universal. Okay? That really pisses off Big Machine. Why the fuck would you sign to Universal?

I gave you an opportunity, one, buy them, or two, earn them out. And you're going to go sign to Universal. Now, Universal has made a deal with Taylor that nobody else is aware of. And that deal is that they were going to buy the Masters back for her and give it to her this isn't even in the documentary so universal plans to give her back the masters that's why she goes to them the guy who was at universal lucian grange i believe his name is. Right? He signed the biggest artist in history away from Big Machine. How do you think that makes Big Machine feel? Pretty salty. You think he wants to sell the Masters to Universal?

Okay. There's this other guy that comes around named Scooter Braun. He didn't know any of this. He goes, does Taylor want to buy the Masters? Because if she does, I would like her to be involved in this. I'm investing in does taylor want to buy the masters because if she does i would like her to be involved in this i'm investing in taylor i want to be involved for a business i think she's the biggest fucking thing in the world and what was at the time what was scooter's relationship with taylor was there any no she had a little issue with him because he

repped kanye and she took that as a slap in the face apparently oh really not yet oh wow okay all right take it back i'm pretty sure the timing isn't even yet. I'm pretty sure the timing isn't yet. Matter of fact, Scooter didn't rep Kanye until after the famous video comes out. Ah, okay. So she's upset at Scooter for repping Kanye, but he didn't even rep until after the famous. Now, he did promote the video, and he promoted the art piece, which has her in a wax sculpture naked, which I think is kind of like, someone,

there's a woman's body, like, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You can say it's art, it's a, you know, statement about culture, but you can also be like, yo, there's my titties. And actually,

I'm feeling like kind of violated. Yeah, 100%. I'm like, yeah, that's just corn. I give her that. That's corn completely. But when that call happened with Kim and all them

and how they were doubling down and making it look like she was lying, which she wasn't lying. If anything, I'd defend the fuck out of Taylor with that. She said, I don defend the fuck out of Taylor with that. She said,

I don't know if I'm comfortable with it just yet. And then never mentioned the bitch line. So she never gave consent. She never sees, she's like that. What didn't seem that bad, but she never said, yeah,

go run with it. And then Kim and them tried to make her look like some fucking hypocrite. It was some gross shit. Yeah. After that, it came out after that. It was gross. Kim,

Kim lied to her. Yeah. It's a corny. Um, anyway, Kim lied to her it's corny anyway Scooter tries to do it Scooter buys the Scooter buys the things fucks up the whole deal from Universal you know who loves the fact that they're fucking over Universal Big Machine

you just bought out you stole my artist and now you think I'm gonna sell you the masters so you can make even more money with it nah fuck you I'm gonna sell them to this other guy can I ask you a question yes please it seems kind of like Taylor's made the label You think I'm going to sell you the Masters so you can make even more money with it? Nah, fuck you. I'm going to sell them to this other guy. Hmm. Can I ask you a question? Yes, please.

It seems kind of like Taylor's made the label, right? Well, the label, when Scooter bought, he bought the entire label. She was, for $300 million, she was $140 million of it. She wasn't even the majority of the label. Now, he's not buying it if she's not on there. Well, she might have been the plurality, right? She is the reason you buy it. But keep in mind, there are still $160 million worth of assets

that are on that label. So my question is, why wouldn't Big Machine just be like, yo, Taylor, we signed you, you gave us seven amazing albums, we did an amazing job together. Just as a sign of good faith, we're going to give you back your masters. Like, in my mind, if you're an artist, it's like... It's worth $141 million.

Who gives away $141 million? But my question is, if you put in all this time, you're an artist, you like worth 141 who gives away but my question is if you put in all this time you're an artist you make all these songs why are you not entitled to having your art that you make because that's not the business model yeah that's not that is the artist model that we all feel life was that way but that's my that's my point this is public perception is that people look at this and they go look she made the song she wrote them herself you can see the pen and paper she recorded them with her voice she played all the instruments why is she not entitled to it that seems kind of fucked up so i think dave portnoy has like the best description

of this ironically this i know that he's like the biggest taylor swift fanny shits on a scooter all the time but like his model is much similar to scooters so what he says is especially with the caller daddy thing it's like our business model is to take 20 Scooter's. So what he says is, especially with the Call Her Daddy thing, it's like, our business model is to take 20 different bets. We bet on 20 different podcasts, maybe one blows, and that's what can pay for all this. And that's what record labels do.

Whether you like it or not, it sucks. Once you're the artist that's making all the money, you're like, fuck, I want more fucking money. I completely get this. But there's 19 other artists who only eat because you were successful. And that is that is the game and the way and that one pays for the other fucking 19 and i don't think people realize

that about the music industry it's kind of set up to where nine nine people don't make it and one person does and so you gotta like lean on the person that does make it to get back the bet on the other and those people and that one person does make it is like well i was always gonna make it why the fuck do i have to pay for those other people because everyone who makes it believes that they were always going to make it and there was no option nobody's like that surprised by it you dedicated your life to it and taylor probably would have made it any other way would have made it no matter what and she happened to make it with them i don't know if you want to bog down the the whatever with like some of these other facts but some of the things that she says

just outright were not true like she said scooter tried to make me sign an NDA if I wanted to buy the Masters that I would never publicly defame him. I could never criticize him for the rest of my life. That's just not true at all. The NDA was, you can't discuss the deal, which is every NDA that you ever sign. Also, there's another thing like in the documentary, they go, not only did Scooter sell the music to this company, because he ended up selling it as well. Yeah. He also made sure that he would continue to profit on it. Yeah. That's not the case.

He sold it to this private equity company, Shamrock, that's owned by Disney. Right. They were scared because Taylor said she's going to gonna re-release the albums so they're like we're not gonna give you all the money yeah this is worth 400 million we're gonna give you 330 and you're gonna have to earn out the other 70 because if she starts pumping out albums that's gonna kill our profit scooter goes i think the more people listen to the new albums, the more they'll listen to the old. They'll compare them. What is it called?

The rising tide lifts all boats. And he was right. He ends up earning it out. But it wasn't, hey, I need to be involved in the upside. It was they were scared to give him market value for the albums because they thought it would be undercut by her re-recording. Why did Sco scooter sell to that company instead of universal i think they were probably made the biggest deal one uh oh actually

he offered to sell it to taylor yeah and then she blackmailed him but this is not in the documentary either she didn't blackmail but she's basically like not her but like her team is basically like sell it at a loss and then she'll stop using all this Me Too language about you. Oh, shit. She uses a lot of Me Too language. If you look at it, it's like, I did not give my consent. She was using these like sexually charged words to describe what's going on.

And the team, there's like email correspondence of all this. That's the thing. It's like, sell it at a loss, and then she'll stop painting you as this bad guy. But only if you sell at a loss. And he's like, fuck that. You've already painted me as a bad guy. You sent all of your fans at me.

They're giving me death threats. They're giving my kids death threats. Yeah. Like, when she said, well, she said, I never knew about this. This happened without my consent. Let Scott Borchetta and Scooter Braun know how you feel. She knows. Matter of fact, in that Kanye phone call, he goes, hey,

I want to get your permission because you have an army behind you. She's aware. She also realizes that, like, Scott Breschetta's name gets no clout. So she stops referencing Scott Breschetta and only references Scooter. Scott Breschetta is the guy who owned the fucking Masters. now i understand the frustration of her having her masters with the guy that represents justin who she fucking hates because of selena and then i guess the kanye thing would be happening later but still i understand that frustration it's like this guy owns my work and he represents these two people that i fucking hate and i can't get angry at them because then their fans are going to shit

on me and that's going to just be ugly. So I'll just get angry at that guy. You know what's crazy is I looked up on Twitter after I watched the doc. I was like, I just want to see what the comments are.

So many of the comments are, I just watched a documentary. I love Taylor even more. Fuck Scooter Braun even more. And it's like, oh, y'all are just going to live in the reality you want to live in. That's,

and she. It's an emotional thing and she is brilliant. There is is nobody this is the brilliance of taylor so if you're ready and i love her it was the greatest concert i've ever met you this is the genius of taylor swith right no no no no you're right i am you're right uh this is the genius right has there ever been anyone in history that is a billionaire, the most successful in their field, truly unstoppable, chart-topping success, and also unanimously thought of as a victim? Impossible. To manage those two things is masterful.

to manage those two things is masterful i mean the emotional iq necessary to have all of your fans still see you as a victim while everybody that has aggrieved you has been punished thrown to the way inside fucked up now i tell scooter i was like michael jackson did it for a little bit oh he tried and then he tried yeah i know yeah but like I was like, yo, nobody got to feel bad for you. You're a billionaire, too. The fuck can we complain? Like you end up killing it. I understand where you're coming from, where you're like, yeah, but like people think of me like as this thing that isn't true. Like there is facts and evidence in emails that shows that she is lying.

This is not a true thing. And people still think of me that way. And that would frustrate the fuck out of me. This is not a true thing. And people still think of me that way. And that would frustrate the fuck out of me. His ex-wife was saying she was getting phone calls at the house threatening the lives of her and the kids. Like, this is not...

Yo, I made money. That's great. You don't have to feel bad for me. But that's fucking crazy. That's rough. And I don't... Like, what is the Taylor Swift breakup song that's a three-dimensional, we were both at fault, things just didn't work out? Sorry about that, man. I wish it did. Yeah, but that's not art.

I see your point. I understand your point, but that would be boring. Where's the rap song where it's like, well, he did have a reason to shoot up my homies, but I have to get my payback. That's the rap. You want emotionally measured... I mean, what's that? You want, whap, whap, whap, whap.

Yeah, fuck them up. But there's twerking. Call them a pedophile. There's twerking. We were too young or whatever. You know what I mean? We were too young. There's songs that are

like that everywhere. Exactly. The, uh, yeah, it's, you want to, but you understand the point. Yeah, yeah. It does, the art is better this way,

without a doubt, 100%. Yeah. But it's just crazy to see, like, Big Machine or whatever has the emails on their website. Yeah. Like, this proof is there. It just shows, like, humans are so emotional. Like, we just want you to represent a feeling we have. And then if you don't, we're not even going to look the other way.

I bet you, Taylor and Scooter have never spoken, by the way, since they, they spoke like maybe three times before this and once shit started to cook they've never spoken against I bet you my suspicion is once the narrative is set

you don't want to talk to somebody that could finish my sentence yeah I mean like you talk to someone that then makes you feel empathy for them and see both sides you're like oh damn maybe I did overre them and see both sides, you're like, oh damn, maybe I did overreact a little.

You're making money and have your army going with your narrative. Don't change it. Live in your bubble. House of the Dragon. Did you watch? I've only watched about 30 minutes of the episode. This conversation you're having right now is right at the end.

I'm down for you guys that we could talk about it last thing i was thinking on the tailor point is that uh i think she really did benefit from being again i don't think the kanye thing made her famous i think that's obviously not true but it did thrust her into a national spotlight in the eyes of the american people as someone that could take an advantage of as a victim and that's really really beneficial and that has never stopped happening no she is continued she saw the power she was a victim there like i think what happened was wrong but being brought into the national spotlight in that way i think is uh is really beneficial funny i was watching that i was watching the doc and they talk about what kanye calls her and they have this interaction which is quite charming and uh he goes uh he he he asks her

if it's okay if he puts a line in the song and the line of the song that he asks is uh not i made that bitch famous yeah it's i think taylor swift might owe me sex that's the line he asks her okay and he sets it up but like i think you might be upset and then she said he goes she goes she's like is it mean he goes no no no it's just whatever like you feel so bad for this girl and then he goes i think taylor swift might owe me sex and she goes oh well that's not that mean she kind of laughs a little she's okay well i just kind of need to think about it but i thought it was going to be way worse she doesn't co-sign it but he thinks about it he doesn't ask her about the uh i made that bitch famous here's the thing i i genuinely believe kanye believes he made her

famous so he's going into that call like well this is undisputable i don't need to ask her this line like i made her famous so that is obvious from a person if you're not in tune with pop music at all i wasn't aware of tales until that moment yeah so so so i i i'm i'm honestly like defensive of kanye with that because i bet he was blindsided when he found out she was upset with that yeah he's like it's like as if big sean was like i can't believe kanye said he made me famous he'd be be like, I didn't make you famous. Nobody fucking knew you. Right? There's so many of these things, just like every great controversy, there's so much

information swirling around and nobody talking to one another. You ever get in an argument with your wife and neither of you is saying how a thing that they did made you feel? And then when you reconcile, you reconcile you're like oh you didn't mean it that way yeah yeah that's this whole drama so you gotta get mom and scooter on the phone bro

the mother whatever you call i mean how awesome would that be get them on the phone that's it she reached the top there's nothing she can do he reached the top there's nothing more he can do like what if they had a conversation and just squashed it? And she was like, yeah, I shouldn't have told the fans to go do that shit to you guys. And I wish that I knew that was her perspective. And then Scooter was like, I wish I didn't pump that famous video as much. And I could see how that made you feel. And it was uncomfortable.

And I wish that you got back to me about buying the fucking albums. Or I wish i knew universal was playing to buy them in the first place if i knew that maybe i would try to partner with both of you guys on it like but once you're setting your narrative how can taylor come out and be like yeah i was actually just kind of manipulating my fan base to be mean to him and using the me too movement i mean when you say she can never say it like that yeah i wouldn't say it like that i wouldn't say it like that if we're trying to make this call happen i wouldn't say like that i wouldn't say if we're trying to make this call happen but it's a it's crazy here's here's the thing about the documentary it kind of is boring i'll be honest with you like it's not the best documentary i mean entertainment yeah but you

knew a lot more shit that the doc doesn't say so that makes it way more interesting i also noticed watching the doc the taylor side is the Taylor side, they're both like 50 minutes each. 35 minutes of it is what a great person Taylor is and everybody loves her and all these other things happen to her. And then there's like 5 to 10 minutes of here's what happened with the deal. And then the Scooter side is like 10 to 15 minutes here's Scooter is and then 30 minutes here's facts about the deal. And I thought that was telling. They let us know that Scooter's family died in the Holocaust like 30 seconds in. Yeah.

Oh, wow. Like, they go hard in the paint. They're like, yo, by the way, it got nothing to do with Taylor. Taylor not German. You know what I mean? There's no reason to bring up the Holocaust. But immediately in the beginning of Scooter's side, he's like, by the way, Scooter's whole family died in the Holocaust.

Or survived the Holocaust. They got him doing like a little, what is it, school presentation at like seven years old talking about the holocaust damn i'm like what the fuck this guy do that smart there you go okay usc 303 real quick or we go to patreon okay we go to patreon guys we love you we appreciate you we'll see you at patreon patreon.com slash flagrant see y'all over there peace