Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Did Hasan Piker Get Andrew Tate Censored?

Episode Date: September 20, 2022

00:00 - Start 01:19 - Fenerbahçe v Galatasaray? 04:13 - Birthers coming for Hasan next? 05:22 - Turkish history - love, sweat and young boys 10:22 - Turks are Furries 11:48 - Heritage not Hate 14:54 - Abraham Lincoln loved his beard 21:15 - Turkish bottoms can’t have all the fun 24:44 - The Queen, sell-out Scots and Americans 28:55 - Princess Diana and the British Empire 39:48 - Hasan coup d’etated Andrew Tate? 46:06 - Balancing wealth with socialist principles 49:33 - Who tips the worst at Flagrant? Guess in the comments 01:00:14 - Pay the IRS 01:06:22 - Hasan loves streaming - combatting narratives 01:20:36 - How Elon Musk really makes his money 01:27:00 - Great Resignation, quiet quitting and unions 01:36:14 - Balancing principles with working with Amazon 01:44:27 - Is Hasan a Chinese agent? 01:50:56 - Nancy Pelosi knows how to use a whip

A lot of people have credited you for Andrew Tate choosing to remove all of his content from social media. Really break that down. He was on this other 17-year-old Fortnite stream because he was doing the rounds. He went to Aiden Ross. He went to ClixoStream. He's going up against these 20-year-old kids and just basically farming their audience of dummies. So all these 12, 13-year-olds were like, oh, I love Fortnite. Oh, this Andrew Tate guy, he seems so cool.

He's got a bugai. And basically, he was getting all of them involved and invested in this thing he called Hustlers University, the MLM scheme. And I saw that, and I was pissed off about it. I was like, what the fuck are you guys giving this guy free promo? He was doing that. And then that dude's manager, Clix's manager, is a fan of mine, and he hit me up on the DMs.

He was like, bro, you want to come on the stream? I was like, yeah, I want to do this. I want to talk to this motherfucker. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flavorant. And today we are joined by none other than the streaming world's, I don't want to say, I don't want to say king because you hate the monarchy. I do hate the monarchy.

So then what do we call you? I don't know. I'm just God. Like democratically elected. Yeah. Democratically elected president? Yeah. Of a socialist country? The prime minister? The prime minister!

Supreme leader. Whoa! We're getting very Turkish. Very fast. We're here with Hasanabi, everybody. Okay, before we start, I need to know something. This is very important to me, and it's going to dictate how the rest of this podcast goes. Fenerbahce or Galatasaray? I grew up hating football.

What? Which is like the worst thing. The reason why I hate it is because everyone loved it so much, and I felt like I was faking it the entire time because I was into nerdy shit. But my family's Fenerbahce, so I'm a Fenerbahce fan. Wow. Wow, did that fuck you up? Bro, come on, dude. These guys are diehard Galatasaray fans.

Yeah. No shot, really. Jim Bomb for life, bro. Jim Bomb? Oh, my God. Come on, boy. Why do you know that? Because I'm a huge fan of Turkish football, obviously.

That's so weird. Also, he's Nardwaj. I knew you were going to be Fenerbahce, dude. Yeah, that is some Nardwaj shit, dude. What the fuck? That was weird. We got to start the pod right. Okay, so we're here.

Listen, I've done some deep journalism on you, like some real deep research. In your knowledge, yeah. I'm a journalist. You know that. I know that. Okay. That's why I came here.

Exactly, because you want serious interviews with me. Yeah. One time, you were quoted saying that you support, I believe, communism because it makes better prostitutes or hotter prostitutes. Interesting. What? I was like, what a great connection. That's brilliant.

It's true. Do you agree? I agree. I was like, this guy's fucking on it. You should just stand up. That's fantastic. You know what's really funny is you talk so much every day that I could just say you said something, and you'd be like, fuck, did I?

You didn't say that. I just want to let you know. No, no, I know I didn't say that. Okay. But I do talk for a very long time. And then, like, because remember old school, like Joe Rogan? Yeah. Because he'd do three hours, right?

Yeah. So he'd be like, oh, people are always, like, clipping me out of context and stuff. It's crazy. Yeah. Motherfucker, I talk for eight hours a day. Try that shit yeah live too with like people you know prodding at you all the time to get you to like slip up and say some dumb shit yeah which i say all the time because i'm a dumb ass you said that they they're like poking the what do you call it like poking not the screen

oh i said tapping the glass yeah yeah i'm a zoo animal yeah but i But, I mean, it's true. So, like, you know, I do have some very clippable moments already. You know what I mean? You don't have to go too far into the journalism sphere to figure out what I've said that's controversial. You know what? I'm feeling the nicotine hit my brain already. Yeah? Yeah. You're supposed to pack it after you chew it.

Oh, really? Yeah, you chewed it a bunch, so now you're going to pack it like a snuff. Oh, I just swallowed it. It's been hurting my throat and shit. Wait, you swallowed the gum? You swallowed it a bunch, so now you're going to pack it like a snuff. Oh, I just swallowed it. That shit's been hurting my throat and shit. Wait, you swallowed the gum? You swallowed it? Yeah.

You're going to get tummy cancer. No shot. You swallowed it. Bro, no that bit. What the fuck? Yeah, don't swallow the nicotine gum. You're going to be buzzing

all day, dude. It's reflexive for him to swallow. It's like a thing he just does. I used to be a big gum swallower when I was younger. You said gum? Gum. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, no, not cum swallower. Okay, you have to be clear big gum swallower when I was younger you said gum? gum oh okay

yeah no not gum swallower that came later that was a later experience once you left Turkey you're like yeah now I can do it okay now rumor has it you might have been born in Turkey

guys I'm a journalist I'm a journalist you said this wasn't a gotcha show what the fuck some people say New Jersey but there's rumors on the internet saying that you were actually born. I'm a US citizen, baby.

But, but, but... That doesn't mean you weren't born? Or was that achieved before? I don't think... You think America would let some fucking dude be like, yeah, I actually was born here if I wasn't actually born here? You could be elected president doing that

from what I understand. Yeah, me and Obama come from the same lineage, actually. Wow. Also Muslim. I'm Muslim, too. We got that connection. There you go. There's a connection.

That's what we do. We're trying to expand the caliphate over here. We're trying to get the dev on board as well. Exactly. I'm fifth column style infiltration.

We brought Boris Johnson into the UK. Many people might not know this. Boris Johnson's Turkish. That's right. That's our guy. And he came in and he fucked it all up. But, you know, he was too good.

He was too good for the Brits. And then, you know, they couldn't handle it. So they just fucking, they canceled his ass, dude. Woke culture came for Boris. That's too bad. Now, I heard that in order to throw the scent off of the spy trail uh-huh when you came to america and you went to university yeah well originally you were at where university of i went to university of miami and then ruckers then ruckers yes yeah to be around

more browns geez up let's go right you want to be closer to the Browns. I heard you joined a Greek fraternity. I was in a frat, yes. But now, how did the Turkish family feel about that? They didn't give a fuck. Gotcha. That's gotcha journalism right there. I didn't even put two and two together. Oh, you did it.

Forgot where you came from. That's how not racist I am. I see no color. I don't even see empires. 1453, best year of my life. Greatest moment. Best year of my life. It was 600 years.

Greatest moment in Turkish history, baby. Yeah. Wait, what happened in 1453? Dude, what do you mean? Columbus sailed the ocean clean. The conqueror fucking took the boats, okay? Took the boats off of the water, put them on land, and like literally rode them through these like oiled up fucking logs and dropped them directly into the Golden Horn, I guess. away from the main chain that had stopped every naval ship prior from entering into the Bosphorus and then obliterated the remainder of the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire.

Holy shit. Turning Constantinople to Istanbul. And how did they lubricate the ships? I don't fucking know. They just like, they greased it up. Olive oil maybe? I don't fucking know. I was heard it was Armenian armpit sweat.

Okay. That's it. I am not speaking. That might be hearsay. Might be hearsay, okay? That is what I heard. That's many years prior to the, you know, other stuff that they did. The other stuff that they did to the Armenians.

So, was the Turkish Empire or the Ottoman Empire The Ottoman Empire, yeah. One of the greatest empires that nobody talks about? I mean, they used to talk about it all the time. Why'd they stop, dude?

Yeah, the PR guys. Because it's over, you know what I mean? We still hear about the Greek. The Romans. We still hear about the Roman. Because those are Western, you know what I mean?

That's what it is. I mean, you don't hear about the fucking Chinese empires either. Yeah, we know what I mean? That's what it is. I mean, you don't hear about the fucking Chinese empires either. Yeah, we do. I mean, you barely do, though. You don't hear about Genghis Khan like that.

Yeah, you don't hear about Genghis Khan. You don't hear about the Chinese empires. You don't hear about the Indian empires either. Like, you don't hear about any of that shit

in the West. Was there an Indian empire? Yeah. Was there an Indian empire? Mughal empire. It wasn't like just nobody wanted To be around you guys?

Did you actually Take over things? Or Or Or was it Yeah? We took shit over, dawg We took shit over

Yeah, what'd you guys take over? The workforce right now You know what I mean? No, no, but I'm saying Back in the day Like what was your Like did you have a military? India, bro

It's pretty big Not wrong. Are you an empire until you conquer people who don't look like you? Oh. Interesting. I mean, Turks definitely did that. It's on Ottoman everywhere. Vikings.

That's the thing, though. That's part of the reason why white people hate that shit. They'll bring that up so much. We were their slaves, right? Yeah, they were like, oh, you guys enslaved white people. It's like, yeah, they did. White people, we like to hold on to our slavery. Like if we spent a day as a slave.

Both sides. What? Huh? What are you saying? Yeah. They love preserving that. Sometimes they do. Hair is not hate.

Yeah. That sort of thing. How can we help? How can me as an ally? Yeah. That sort of thing. How can we help? How can me as an ally? How can me as an ally help non-whites do better PR for their empires?

Yeah. I mean, it's not going to happen. Nobody wants to hype up the fucking other empires that conquered over white people and shit. The Jews love it because they thrived within the Ottoman Empire. In the Middle East. In Northern Africa. That is true're like bring back the ottomans they did uh except for when theodore horso originally went to the ottoman empire to be like yo we want israel like that'd be pretty sick if you gave us the palestinian territory it's called palestine yeah it was. It's called Palestine, bro. What do you mean? I know. It's called Palestine, bro. Bro, you're hitting the ally points hard.

What? Your ally, dude? Your ally, dude. Yeah. It's the nicotine, bro. That was not cool. They did not fucks with that. For the Jews on that front.

But other than that, yeah. That's why the Jewish producers only wrote about the Roman Empire and all of that than that, yeah. That's why the Jewish producers only wrote about, you know, the Roman Empire and all of that. Oh, shit. That's why you don't hear

about these Ottomans. I want to hear about, I want to hear more about the Ottoman Empire. Call it what it is. There is. What is it? Is Palestine.

Is, is, is Palestine. There is. There is actually a really good documentary on Netflix like they did with like actors and shit, too. What the fuck's it called?

They do a recreation of it. That was pretty good. Love on the Spectrum or something? Oh, I love that one. That's really good, actually. The Furries. Yeah, that was good. Furries is the Turkish movie.

I forget what the fuck it was called. They are furries. They are, bro. You know what this is? No, what? This is the sign of the ultra. They are furries. They are, bro. You know what this is? No, what? This is the sign of the ultra-nationalist MHP. Okay. Okay, the MHP party.

And they are ultra-nationalists, but there's a pan-Turkic mythology that revolves around wolves. We are descendants of wolves, right? So it's like these Turanist guys, these, like, pan-Turkic mythology, you know, understanders and lovers will throw this up as a sign to be like, yeah, this is like a Nazi salute, but for the ultra-nationalists. Yeah, for the ultra-right, yeah. For Turks. I could see you as, like, a woven people.

I was just thinking that, looking at him. You're woven? Like a Taylor Lautner type. 100%. That's how I see myself. Yeah. 100%. Yeah, but that's real furry shit, bro.

You just constantly go on like, yo, look at this. That's the coolest hand sign. Every time I do this, he's taking photos. What the fuck are you guys doing? Every time I do this, he's like, yeah, we got him. We fucking got him.

This fucking idiot. Yeah. These Armenians are going to come beat your ass. But like the Nazi branding has gotten a little better. Like that thing is cool now. You know what I mean? Like the wolf thing is cool. Son, I was thinking that when he said heritage, not hate. And I was like, yo, the conservatives have the marketing.

That's just a nice little saying. Heritage, not hate. And then Black Lives Matter. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. The heritage is hate. But you don't think about it. Why is it always or? Why not and? You know what I mean? Heritage not hate. Yeah. And then Black Lives Matter. Heritage is hate. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. The heritage is hate. But you don't think about it. Why is it always or? Why not and? You know what I mean?

Heritage and hate. That's what it is. That's the thing. But the marketing, and then Black Lives Matter, and they're like, all lives matter. And marketing-wise, you can't argue with that. Pro-life. They say they're pro-life. It's insane.

Yeah, they're such fucking good marketers. Okay. They're literally the most anti-live motherfucker. They would be like, I'm so pro-life and then sign off on an autistic black teenager that didn't even commit the crime, dying. Or more. We have to. We have to do that.

Okay, okay. Here's a premise from a brilliant YouTuber that I cannot say who it is, but this is an abortion premise that was said to us the other day and I thought it was genius and I cannot say... it is, but this is an abortion premise that was said to us the other day, and I thought it was genius, and I cannot say... No, no, no. You can buy a special on Moment House, actually.

No, no, that's not me. That's not me. Is there a limit to abortions? If a girl has, like, a hundred. What? It's your body of choice, but like a hundred?

What's your limit? What's your limit? What is your number? First of all, if they want to do it competitively, go off. Is there a league? Yeah, what are they doing? They're just like getting nutted inside of nonstop. Who the fuck has the time to do that?

Okay, what if they freeze their eggs so they can do it after they stop being a woman? What is it called? Menopause. Menopause, menopause. Oh, wow, you're morally consistent on that. You're like, yeah, my grandma, don't call her grandma anymore. No, not at all.

Just call her grand. Grand. Yeah. Sorry, your eggs don't work. And she's not even that grand. She's just regular. Exactly. Being able to birth a child makes you a woman,

and when that stops, you're a person. You're an enby. Yeah, you're non-binary. Which is weirdly gender abolitionist of everyone that says that, because it's like if you're a teenager or if you haven't been able to, if you haven't had your first period, you're not a woman technically, which then you can play sports with everybody. Yes. We are gender abolitionists.

I'm a gender abolitionist. Is that good to be? I mean, yeah. Is that the most progressive? I think so. Dude, when has abolitionists been? That's right. I'm like Mark Twain out here, dude.

Yeah, dude. I'm an abolitionist, Al. You're welcome. Why did is that why did you why why why alex well the abolitionists why did you point out was born a woman no no the original abolitionists in america yeah what were they uh what were they abolishing they wanted to abolish the really hard-working guys that love to work all the time oh that's why you're funny yeah yeah yeah yeah they want to make sure yeah they want to abolish the time. Oh, that's why you're funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They wanted to make sure.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They wanted to abolish the free market. The literal free market. Literally. Yeah, it's kind of fucked up. Yeah. That's the nanny state again. Dude, what is that about, bro?

Nannies? Abraham, dude, he was just, he didn't like it. He was jealous. Also Turkish. I don't know about that one. Abraham Lincoln? Ibrahim is the Turkish name. Ibrahim Lincoln.

He was bisexual, though. Duh! What do you mean? Of course he's bisexual, bro. He was a top or bottom. No, no, no. He had a top hat. He literally has the top hat, baby.

I don't know if he was a top or bottom, but there are a lot of accounts of him leaving his wife behind. She was a loony bin, though. Yeah, I mean, come on. She was a loony bin. You wouldn't leave her? Beard. Mental illness. Beard.

Oh, he literally had a beard, dog. Yeah, and his wife was a beard. And I say bi to be like politically correct, but I think it was just like gay. There's rumors for you. Yeah. He gave good head. And he. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, buddy. I don't know about

that, but. Wait, wait, wait. All I'm saying is... Explain the joke. Don't make me explain it. It went over my head. Hey! Wow. You guys have, like, a special or something?

Pretty funny. It's good. Why is he bi? There are accounts of him sleeping in the same room as his bodyguard, with his bodyguard, which is fucking... It's like, okay, dude, you're gay then. No, he's gay. For safety. Because back then... Yeah, no bodyguard, with his bodyguard. Which is fucking, it's like, okay, dude, you're gay then. No, he was gay.

For safety. Because back then, yeah, no, he was so safe. Where was that bodyguard? Exactly. Maybe they were having a little tiff.

They were fighting. You can watch her play by yourself. He likes musicals? That's kind of gay. The bodyguard is furious he doesn't get to go. The one thing

they get to do together. Yeah, it's like, yeah, no, go with your bitch wife. Musicals? That's kind of gay. The bodyguard is furious. He doesn't get to go. The one thing they get to do together. Yeah. It's like, yeah, no, go with your bitch wife. That takes you. And then boom. I didn't realize he was gay. Yeah, dude, he was gay. That makes me like him so much more.

Yeah, if he was straight, he would have shot himself in the head at the theater. Because back then it was... Watching this gay ass shit. There was no... You were not openly gay and shit. You know what I mean? So back then It was You know there was no There was no like You were not like openly gay and shit You know what I mean So back then you just did that You were like oh that's just a

That's just a handsome fellow That likes to sleep in the same room With his bodyguard Okay Now you've spoken a lot about Turkish culture I have spoken a lot about that And how gay the straights are

How gay the straights are Yes Turkish culture Very similar to Latino culture, like Hispanic culture, is super gay. Don't bring them into this. Don't bring them into this.

Don't bring them into this. Y'all are gay. Look how lined up your fucking beard is, bro. Y'all are gay. This is so straight. You literally got shaped up before you got involved in the podcast.

You're like, oh no, it's not. Yo, stop flirting with me. As he wears his flower jacket. Back in the day, we used to say, remember, because I'm 31, right? We used to say metrosexual. That was right like we used to say like metrosexual like that was the thing and like i feel like turkish men do that and like latino men do that

from you know from the jump like they've been very metrosexual they like shape up their eyebrows and shit yeah yeah so and and there's a lot of like you know flamboyant things that turkish men do too i mean we kiss our homies yeah you know but also very homophobic at the same time. Yes. It's like, whoa, gay? Hold up. Yes. However, historically speaking, the Ottoman Empire actually had no issues with homosexuality and some other stuff beyond homosexuality. Like what?

Like what? Like what? The same stuff that everybody was doing at the time. Boys? Boy butt? Yeah. Stavros talked about it when he was here. Brilliant joke.

Shout out Stavros. Yeah. That was a great one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was just the Greeks. Turks never did that. Yeah, Stavros. Yeah, that was a great one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was just the Greeks. Turks never did that. Yeah, yeah. Of course not.

Of course not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, there was no, like, there was no concept of, like, homosexuality, like, as a bad thing. You just, like, fucked your homies. Yes. And I think the bottoms were black. That's what we do. That's basically what this podcast is.

And the bottoms were gay. We call it Burning Man. Yeah. Which is what you guys... Hey, don't share stuff. Oh, okay. I didn't tell you that off the pot. I didn't realize that was the off the pot conversation.

Oh, yeah, my bad, whatever. I mean, that's a good... Isn't that a good comment? You're one of the boys now. I can't wait for Burning Man. Burning Man is just burning when I piss after what we did. Yeah. But there was no concept of homosexuality.

Bottoms, I think, were still considered gay, but tops were not, which is a cultural thing that extends to even contemporary Turkish culture, but I'll get into that in a second. As a matter of fact, Turkey was so, the Ottoman Empire was so open-minded about homosexuality, it was decriminalized, even though it was never illegal, in the 18th century, in the Tanzimat era. So there's posters and shit

of dudes butt-fucking in a circle that you can find. There's some crazy stuff out there. And why do you think they were so open? Everyone was. That's the best way to get in. The homophobic, the idea of homophobia is,

I would say, I think it's like a Christian invention. It's a relatively new thing. No. What? What? We got big time Catholic to your right. Big time Catholic. No, because the same idea of we don't like prostitution and we don't like homosexuality and stuff like that was because— Women were just tired of their men not fucking them.

Partially, yeah. Like, they weren't binding. They're having so much fun with everyone else. Because back in the day, you had to pop out, like, four kids, five kids. Only one of them is going to make it. And they're going to make it to, like, 16 before they get their fucking head chopped off. Yeah. Right?

And you need workers in the farm. You need serfs. Yeah. And servants and shit so they were like we got to make make sure these motherfuckers like you know they stay together and just like fuck non-stop um in order to combat like depopulation you know like elon musk and so uh that was the idea because like i guess you know butt pussy was too good yeah just like why would i i mean imagine your your husband is fucking his homie he never come hang out with because, like, I guess, you know, butt pussy was too good. Yeah. Dudes were just like, why would I?

I mean, imagine your husband is fucking his homie. He never would come hang out with you. Yeah. What's the upside? You're less fun to hang out with. He's still having sex. Yeah, exactly. You got to make that shit weird to people.

Tight, tight butthole. Yeah, dude. It's great for him. Now, was that one of the things that Ataturk used to, like, really rally the Turkish people? Yeah, boy pussy for everybody. Turkish pussy would be hard, though. Like, boy pussy for everybody. Turkish pussy would be hard though. Like there's a lot. Turkish pussy.

Turkish pussy, you got to get through it. A Turkish delight, bro. By the way, that's actually funny though because like in Turkey, there's still this concept called a pink slip

because everyone has to, everyone has to serve in the military. Every able-bodied male has to serve in the military either after high school or after college, depending on, you know,

if you go to the college, you go to the officer's rank, which is, like, a little bit shorter. If you study abroad or something, or if you work abroad overseas, you can do foreigner service,

which is, like, super short. It's, like, 28 days. And there's always, like, you know, financial compensation. You can, like, pay your way out of it, which is what I did.

And so, basically, one I did. And so basically, one of the ways of like not having to serve is either you're like too fat, right? Too fat to serve because you'll fucking literally die. Yeah.

Or you have like a disability, like a medical disability. Like? Or, exactly. Or if you're getting fucked in the ass. No, literally. You think I'm kidding? This is how Trump dodged the draft. What if you're getting fucked in the ass. Literally. You think I'm kidding? This is how Trump dodged the draft.

Just being gay is not enough. If you're a top, they don't consider that enough. I mean, I don't know if Abraham was receiving or delivering. So Abraham Lincoln, if he's top, if he's not verse, if he's just the top, he's not getting out of service. Because fucking an ass is not considered medically gay. Wow. But getting fucked in the ass is. I tend to agree with that.

And it's less gay. And this is like a thing. Like this is literally a thing where like you have to get photos taken of you getting fucked in the ass. And then doctors look at it. No. Doctors have to look at it? It's called a pink slip and it was

it was a thing in existence and this is all to avoid 28 days in service this is all to avoid I mean four weeks of service what if you're just

I mean what if you're just gay anyway you're already getting fucked might as well now how did you say that you got out of military service yeah

I got fucking one time photos on the internet? No, I paid for it because like every now and then there is, they call it off. It's like a pardon basically where they'll say like if you, you know, worked abroad. Yeah. And if you have a dual citizenship like I do, then you can get away with not serving or paying away your 28-day service that you need to do.

And I actually wanted to go because I was like, this is like camp. You know what I mean? I'll fucking, I'll do 28 days. I don't give a shit. I'll get fucking,

I'll get a pump in. You know what I mean? You're already pretty jacked. You look like beast. Yeah, I thought it would be good. Like, I thought it would be good for, you know, I'd be even more fit. And my dad was like,

I'll disown you. If you go? If you go. He's like, I didn't fuck you. Is your dad that guy in Pennsylvania that the Erdogan hates? no not until i do that and fuck no yeah gulen yeah no that guy sucks he's a cia asset but oh really no yeah 100 we could talk about that too but he he literally said like i didn't spend this much money on you to fucking go and like die in a mountaintop somewhere you fucking idiot like god he's talking to you like he's an nfl owner he was like what do you mean like he spent all his money for you to go stand yeah he's like 20

he's like yeah 23 24 years of like fucking spending money on you or at least up in the 18 all this education we're not gonna put that in the waste you're gonna go your big ass is gonna pop out of the fucking trenches somewhere boom you, you're done. Some Kurdish sniper is going to fucking dome you, no shot. So I was like, all right. Listen, I really want to get your opinion on something. I don't know if you know what's happened in England. Are you familiar?

What's happened in England? A news story. Prince Andrew had a big weekend. I knew about that one. Well, we did see that video. We're going to talk about that. But Scotland got their payback on the Queen. I don't know if you heard about this. Well, we did see that video. We're going to talk about that. But Scotland got their payback on the queen. I don't know if you heard about this.

Wait, really? What happened? They have such shitty doctors there. Did you know where the queen ended up dying? Yeah, I knew. Where did she die? What's the name of the castle? It's the Scottish castle.

Scottish castle. It's her favorite. In Aberdeen. In Aberdeen, thank you. Isn't it her favorite? We made it nice and comfy for her. Yeah. And then when the time was right.

Are you Scottish? Yeah, of course. Oh, my God. Yeah, of course. Classic New York white guy. Oh, Balmoral Castle. Yeah. That's right.

That was her favorite castle. Do you know what Balmoral means in Gaelic? No. Die. That's what that means. Is it really? Dude, you say that, but Edinburgh, which is like the most... We don't consider that Scotland. I was about to say.

The most like English adjacent part, they were beating the asses of anyone that even said like, fuck the Queen. No. Because while the funeral proceedings were happening yesterday, and they like march her fucking casket through everywhere, which is crazy. So much is crazy about the entire British kingdom,

but the fucking weird outfits and shit. But anyway. Are we even talking about the Ottoman Empire outfits? I mean, the Ottoman Empire was crazy. The Ottoman Empire was like a 400 years? No, that shit was crazy too, but at least it's like flowy, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

He loves drip, bro. He loves drip. He has some swag with him. Yeah, she, yeah. He loves drip, bro. He loves drip. He has some swag with him. Yeah, she was flowy. But yeah, also, they don't wear it now. You know what I mean? They don't have, like, the Royal Guard in Turkey dressed up like that.

I'd be like, dude, what are you doing? It's just the, what is the Vatican police, what are they called? Oh, the Swiss Guard. The Swiss Guard, yeah, yeah. That outfit's sick. Those are fucking insane. Yeah. They are dripped up. Yeah.

You can probably see that down the street in fucking Nolita. Some dude dressed like that. Just grabbing a cold brew, whatever. Okay, so you were saying they're bringing the body through. So they're bringing the body through, and some people held up signs that said, I think, not my monarch or whatever, end the monarchy, and the cops would just arrest them no

they did they literally like there was one kid who said something like fuck the queen or fuck the king or something and this like

gammon fucking summer ham looking Scottish dude was like oh fuck you like

just beating the shit out of this like teenager and then the cops like separate them and immediately arrest the teenager. Wow. And neither of them was doing the ass-whooping.

What cuffs? Not a real Scott. Not a real Scott. So cucked. Not a real Scott. I think that is a Scotland. That's not a real Scott. I think that's the most real Scotland.

So insanely cucked. No, no, no, no. I fucking despise that shit. What, the Scottish? No, I love the Scottish. Thank you. That's what I'm talking about. I love the Scottish and I love the Irish. Thank you. But I what I'm talking about. I love the Scottish and I love the Irish.

Thank you. But I fucking have so much disdain in my heart for a motherfucker who's like, no, I love the monarchy. It's like, bro, what do you mean?

They cucked you. Yeah. India. Are you a big monarchy fan? Yeah, he fucking loves it. He loves the monarchy. You speak English, loser. If I was you,

I wouldn't speak English. I would just refuse, dude. What was your language before English? English? Do you even know? Oh, English? Do you even know? Oh, yeah. Do you even know?

German? Do you speak that? Yeah. Do you? Only when he's yelling at Doug. I speak German. Only when he's mad at Doug. No, no, I should stop speaking English, too.

Okay. But, dude, the worst is when Americans are like, oh, how dare you disrespect the queen? The fuck's wrong with you? I don't get this. 1776, motherfucker. What is this? Yeah, we disrespect it. What is this?

Heritage not hate. What is this? It's the one time where I was like, yeah, I feel American right now. Fuck the queen. Can I be honest? I don't get strong feelings either way. Like, she's a 96-year-old woman. She died.

Okay. Exactly. That's what happens. It's not like they fucking cut her head off. I'm surprised every day she didn't die. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No died okay exactly that's what happened it's not like they fucking cut her head off yeah yeah yeah no exactly that's what i'm saying it's like she won bro she won yeah that's a good thing no she won she lived to 96 she lived a wonderful life she like you know took money from the poverty funds or whatever the fuck you know what i mean she did whatever the fuck she wanted and then sprinkled a little bit of your money

on like a couple charities. So everyone was like, oh my gosh, she's such a wonderful old woman. She won. She used a little bit to kill Diana. Did she really kill Diana allegedly? I think so. Why?

She was, the conspiracy is that she was fucking around with an arms dealer. A brown boy. Diana was. A brown boy a brown boy don't be alfied right oh he was muslim he was muslim yeah you can't be doing that yeah yeah what guy was he a dealer casino or whatever no harris is the uh department store that's like the department store in casino in england oh haras harris harris harris harris harris Oh, Haraz. Harris. Harris. Harris. Harris. Harris.

I just got flashbacks to AC. Oh, God. Y'all don't go to Haraz and gamble it up with the boys every once in a while, bro? It's just a short. That's based on the Jewish ruler, Herod. Really? Oh, King Herod. Yeah.

Oh, shut up. I know King Herod. Herod's temple? Yes. Yeah. So you never visited Herod's temple when you were in Israel, dude? No, I didn't. I missed that one.

You serious? Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's fire, dude. You got to go. How is it? How was it? I mean, it's modest. Oh, yeah.

It's definitely modest. It's one of the more modest things. I mean, the stonework. Yeah. You know what I mean? A lot of limestone and just like a sick pergola in the back for taking in a breeze on a nice summer day. Anyway, back to what you were saying. Now, if you're them, though, if you're the monarchy, don't you got to kill Princess Diana?

She left your husband. Yeah. Everybody loved her. I remember there was a story where she like saved kids that were drowning. She like fucking jumped in the water she also was like talking about aids at a time when like everyone was like nah it's the gay thing don't fuck this up they're killing all the gays like it's good landmines she was a big thing what'd she do with them she had them removed she planted she planted yeah i think cool she was like we should take all the landmines and put them in Ireland.

That's a good place to store all the landmines. We're having fun. Wait, so she broke up with her man? I didn't know this. They got divorced. They both cheated on one another. I heard she was getting rinsed. Which is crazy.

Like five different dudes were just nutting in that thing. I did hear that. Or you are going to get canceled. No, I did hear that. No disrespect to her, but she was just getting filled up.

You know what's wild though? Princess Diana, they didn't like her because she was the commoner's princess, right? And she wasn't noble enough,

high-ranking enough, which means she just wasn't literally from a distant cousin. She wasn't inbred enough. Yeah, she was not inbred enough. And it showed.

She was hot. She was hot. She could get it. Comebred enough. Yeah. And it showed. She was hot. She was hot. She could get it. Like, come on. Oh, my God. And she was getting it, bro. Yeah, and she was. You could have taken that down for sure, bro.

She would have been into you for sure. She would have liked that. I would have loved that. She would have liked that, dude. I would have been so on board with that. And you could go raw on that thing, too, man. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I'm winning in that one.

Yeah. What do you mean? It's like, yeah, I'm... Sit down, Boris. I'll take it from here. Yeah, no, a little baby trap, Princess Diana, dude. That's great.

But basically, what I found out is if you look up Princess Diana's summer, I mean, a childhood home, you will realize like, oh, fuck, she's not a commoner at all. She was literally like multiple generations of royalty as well, just not as royal as the royal family. Oh, so she's still, what is it?

She was so fucking caked up. Yeah. She was like, I think her dad was like a noble. Wow. But not high enough. And I never knew that. And then I looked it up and her summer home or her childhood home in England is like, is a fucking gigantic castle. Son, I thought she was like a teacher or some shit like that.

Yes, dude. They fucking make it seem like, oh yeah, you're not, you're not a part of like, you're not a descendant of like the Spanish king. So that means you're a fucking commoner. Meanwhile, the commoner is living in a chateau. Wow. Yeah. Here's a question.

I felt a little duped by that. Is anyone in the royal family even English? No. Isn't that crazy? Like, Elizabeth was, like, German, I think. German, yeah. And her husband was Greek and German, I think. So anyone who's run by a bunch of—

Bro, they're all like this. Like, the thing is, first of all, Elizabeth literally got dicked down by her cousin. Yeah. For those of you who don't know. Yeah. Like Prince Edward, right, is his name, I think.

He is her cousin. They met when like, I mean. First cousin? Yeah. No, third cousin. However,

no, no, no, but listen. Come on. That would be reasonable. Third cousin? No,

third cousin for normal people makes sense. Right. Right? I'm super on board with cousin fucking. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let me just come right out and say it. Third cousin for royals, because of so much inbreeding for centuries, third cousin for royals is literally like fucking father-daughter type shit. They are so intertwined with one another that even if you're a third cousin, like, you're still going to have some genetic disabilities and medical conditions like the sausage fingers that the current king has. Y'all see that shit?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all see that type, bro. You can't even fucking write normally. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, he looks like everything, everywhere, everything at once or whatever that fucking... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

God, man. The hot dog fingers. The hot dog hands. Yeah, he's hot dog, alternate reality. Yeah fucking... Yeah, yeah, yeah. God, man. The hot dog fingers. The hot dog hands. Yeah, he's hot dog, alternate reality. Yeah. So now, okay, wow. Okay, so then he becomes king. For a short time.

Yeah, he's probably going to fucking, he's not going to survive that, I don't think. His blood pressure's way too high, bro. I mean, yeah, look at them fucking hands. That's got to be... Yeah. He's still committed to the ring, though. I kind of like that. I think he just can't get it off.

That's crazy to me. I know. I can't even take that off. Yeah, I think it's just stuck there. His hands are floating away, and he's got a ring on it still. It's the best. Bro, it's like blowing up from both angles. It's like there's more on this side and on this side.

It's like so committed. You can't even pry that. Yeah. It's like Jaws of Life, but like a tiny one. What is the argument for British people who do love the monarchy? Like what would people say? What would they say if there was an argument? Because I'm genuinely curious.

I don't understand the connection. I don't understand. I think it's just patriotism in a similar capacity to Americans. I was going to say it's like an extension of the flag. Yeah. Like, we have stars and bars, and then they have the flag, and then this also represents Britain. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Because, like, they blew a 13-colony lead, right?

But also, like, that was kind of tight when they had it for them. Yeah. Even though, like, you saw none of it because you were a fucking peasant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They think, like, oh, yeah, we did. We fucking, that was awesome. Oh, I did that. It's like, no, no motherfucker you didn't do that they did that it's like yankee fans they don't own the team but motherfucker we got them exactly ah so the monarchy represents the english empire yes

and there's still pride in the empire and the people who are frustrated with the monarchy feel like they're not acknowledging what the cost of the empire was which was what they had to do to people just atrocity genocide rape gotcha now torture do we hold the royal family accountable for oh yeah that even now like elizabeth yeah everyone always like everyone always has been talking about like in american news about how like elizabeth oversaw the largest like decolonialization operation over her reign. And it's like, bro, it's not like she was like, oh, yeah, please go away. Like, it's fine.

She wasn't like, yeah, congratulations for, you know, decolonizing and having an Independence Day. No, she would go there and they'd be like, yeah, torture these motherfuckers. Which they did. They did it in Kenya. They did it in Malaysia. motherfuckers which they did they did it in kenya in malaysia anytime there was like especially if there was like a communist uprising or anything like that she was there doing pr while the fucking forces were out there literally wearing their disrespectful ass outfits they wore shorts and shit i hate that but you're really big into military uniforms and i do i do love military

uniforms i think like if you're wearing if you're getting goned by a guy fucking wearing shorts, like, that's so disrespectful. The chubbies army is here. God damn it. I got killed by a guy. The chubbies army. The last thing that you see is some fucking sunburned calf. It's, like, red as fuck.

It's just, yeah, summer heat. It's like, yeah, mate, we have to do it, Tom. It's fucking bullshit. It's bullshit. It's like Fortnite dancing on someone's corpse. Like, you couldn't cover them shits up, dude?

What the fuck? It's just, it's fucked up. And then they wear the cap with like the little fluffy thing on top of it, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys have a cap like that.

The Turks, they have like crazy shit. They have the fezzes and shit, too. Yeah, the fezz, right? Yeah. That's Moroccan. Oh, is that Moroccan? No, I'm sure there's a,

Turks have the fezz, too. They're a version, right? Yeah. What is that? Is that just like a version of the yz, right? Yeah. That's Moroccan. Oh, is that Moroccan? No, Turks have the Fez, too. They're a version, right? Yeah. What is that? Is that just like a version of the yarmulke? It's such bad headgear. It is, right? It doesn't stay on your head.

It doesn't stay on. It's so weird. You got to clip it on and shit. It doesn't even look that good. Why are you trying to look like a conehead? Yeah. I never understood that. It's got a little tassel on it, too, like you're graduating.

It's just silly. Yeah, I never understood the— I've never been a big Fez boy. Yeah, this. Yeah. Oh, this is with the guy with the ice cream. That's what he wears. Hold on, hold you're graduating. It's just silly. Yeah, I never understood the... I've never been a big Fez boy. Yeah, this. Yeah. Oh, this is with the guy with the ice cream. That's what he wears. Hold on, hold on.

Yeah. The guy to the right looks kind of... Garb. He's kind of pulling it off. Oh, just like... Oh, not him. Here we go. The Moroccan up there?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who, this man? Yeah, the Moroccan guy's doing it. Old school. Whoa. That guy's doing it, dog. Wow.

That guy's doing it. That is a fit for sure I mean the blazer's crazy Elijah Muhammad wore some shit like that didn't he right before he killed

Malcolm X okay explain to me why they don't just give you ice cream and turkey dude he's so fucked up

yeah I don't understand it a betrayal of everything dude it's just like you're like oh man I want a delicious yeah I want a delicious treat and Turkish ice cream Yeah, I don't understand that. A betrayal of everything, dude. It's just like... The most innocent moment for a child. I want a delicious treat, and Turkish Ice Cream slaps. They have this weird thing.

It's like a gummy consistency. It's actually really good. But they've got to make you earn it, then. Yeah, dude. It's fucked up, though. They'll do the flip where he'll double cup it. You have the cone in your hand, and then you're like, oh, finally.

And he's like, nope. Fuck you. You can get out of it. Yeah, yeah. You have like the cone in your hand and then you're like, oh, finally. And he's like, nope, fuck you. What? Well, you can get out of it actually if you prove you get fucked in the ass. Yeah. I was giving you

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to do. Now, let's get back to the show. Hassan, a lot of people have credited you for Andrew Tate choosing to remove all of his content from social media. Willingly. Willingly. He willingly went away. Yeah, you guys had one debate, and then after that, apparently he removed everything that

he's ever posted. Yeah, apparently you just got him, dude. You just really devastated him. How did you make that happen? Was that the goal, or was it just discourse? Like, really break that down. I'm kind of bummed because I wanted to...

I'm bummed because I wanted to like actually talk to him about the sex trafficking shit. You know what I mean? Because that's like way more interesting and way more awful than like just running

another Tai Lopez style multi-level marketing scheme, which he definitely was doing. But, like, I did the entry point into that because he was on this other, like, 17-year-old Fortnite streamer, Klyx, like, his stream. Because he was doing the rounds. He went to, like, Aiden Ross. Yeah. He went to Klyx's stream. He's, like, going up against, like, these like these like 20-year-old kids and just basically farming

their audience of like dummies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like all these like 12, 13-year-olds were like, oh, I love Fortnite. And then they like, oh, this Andrew Tate guy, he seems so cool. He's got a bugai.

And basically he was like getting all of them involved and invested in this like fucking thing he called Hustlers University, the MLM scheme. And I saw that and I was pissed off about it. I was like, where the fuck are you guys giving this guy a free promo?

You're not even asking for money. This is ridiculous. At least get a cut. So he was doing that shit. And then that dude's manager, Cligs' manager, is a fan of mine. And he hit me up on the DMs. He was like, bro, you want to come on the stream? Oh, so it just happened in the moment.

And I was like, yeah, I want to do this. i want to talk to this motherfucker and i had done a little bit of research on him already like i knew a little bit about him so i just went on and i just started talking to him and he's just like talking about like how women can't drive and all this other shit he was like i've been in the most car accidents like well i mean princess diana right like oh my gosh come on she had a driver though yeah a female a lot of people don't know that the muslim guy was gonna let her drive okay so then you guys yeah i was watching the back and forth and you guys are getting into it about the female driving yeah and i just like i i was like bro that's not that's not how this works like you can't just be like, this is my personal experience.

You can't personal experience your way from like, you know, shit that isn't true. Right. But he tried to do that. And then I just asked him, like, because I knew that he wasn't a flat earther because I'd heard him talk about that already, which is surprising. Because he's like everything else. Yeah. He's into everything else except for flat earth. Okay.

Which is weird. Yeah. So I was like, do you think the earth is round and he's like yeah i do so i was like all right well do you think you know the earth is round because it feels like it's flat and your personal experiences would show that it's flat like maybe empirical evidence is important for that reason like maybe science is important he was like no i actually went up to the sky like i literally was like what did you fly in a fucking rocket ship to the moon and see it personally that the earth is not flat it's like yeah i did that that's great i kind of like that i love that i love that perfect but at that point he had been like so thoroughly bullied by me that

like he was kind of like sinking in i am a bully for sure. You're a bad guy. Yeah. He was like sinking into his fucking seat. He like took off his headphones at a certain point to not respond to me. Wow. And like, yeah. So after that, he was like, he was not as invested in like Twitch. And then everybody started making like videos

about that. And also all the other shit that I had like addressed there but people were like researching yeah what the fuck this guy's about because he blew up out of nowhere yeah like he's been around he's been on the internet for a long ass time i think he dated like jordan peterson's daughter and shit which you know that's kind of a dub wait what like kayla peterson's fucking she's hot yeah you're into it i think probably, her sweat glands are probably busted from just eating straight raw meat. Yeah.

There's no way. Tough diet, tough diet. There's no way she has normal poops. What do you think they're like? It's just like a fossil. You're like, it's just fucking dense. You're not pushing that out easy. That's a little emasculating, too.

You go on a date, you get a fucking poke bowl. And then she just gets a steak ball. She's hot though. Very attractive woman. Very attractive woman. Very attractive woman. Except like I said, like if I ate that much meat, I love meat. Like I eat a lot of meat.

If I ate that much meat, if I had a meat only diet, like I feel like i'll be sweating fucking straight grease you know what i mean have you tried it though i have not don't know i can tell you try it yeah 100 kind of like hustler's university that's also true you'll learn something if you joined you might have learned really how to i'll get 50 of the money if you sign up because i've been a member for quite some time you got it's great it's a great business. It's never been done before. It's very unique. Now, if Jordan Peterson was your father-in-law, right?

Like, how would Thanksgiving, do they have Thanksgiving in Canada? Canada? I think they have like a Canadian. They have a different Thanksgiving. Yeah, I don't know.

What is theirs? It's like a different day. They're thankful for the fact that they're next to America, I think. That was actually a very good holler. Now, do we think that you guys could reach common ground on certain things? Nothing.

Nothing? Hassan. You would both agree that nothing. Mikayla's beautiful. That's true. There you go. That is true. We both think that she's hot.

There it is. There you go. That's one. That's one. And that's it. I like eating meat, too, so there's that. Two. Right. I don go. That's one. That's one. And that's it. I like eating meat too. So there's that. Right.

I don't know what else. Socialism. He's not one, dude. He actually was a part of the NDP. He's a socialist. He's from Canada. When he was younger, he was literally a part of the NDP. He was like a student organizer for the NDP.

What happened? He was like the leftist party there. Yeah. As he got older, he went away from it. Maybe that's what happened to you. Yeah. No. As he got older, he went away from it. Maybe that's what happened to you. Yeah, no. There you go. You're 31. I hate socialism now.

Yeah. No, I think he just, I mean, I think he just became older and a lot of people don't really, you know, a lot of people don't really follow through on that. Especially when they're younger. If they got into it, they see it as like a fad rather than like something to internalize or or truly understand are you worried about that no the one thing i am worried about is not like as i get older but like the more money i make the more i'm like damn these fucking luxuries are great they're so nice and i've always loved like i've always loved commodities you know what i mean even when i was fucking broke as shit yeah so that that didn't change yeah now i can actually

buy it. Then people yell at me all the time. They're like, fuck you. What is the line? How big can you get maintaining being a socialist? I mean rich. You know what I mean? How materialistic can you get?

Can socialists not be rich? Why can't socialists be rich? I tend to agree with that also. It's not a fucking religion. There's no dogma around around like uh you know being wealthy and also being socialist but in america they think like oh you're supposed to be dead broke like it's bullshit so what is what is socialism to you socialism is about worker power it's it's just about uh allowing everyone to have more autonomy in their lives we spend 80

of our lives in the workplace day in, day out, and we have no control over it whatsoever. Like, obviously, this is a dramatically different circumstance because you have your own podcast, you know what I mean? Yes. And a much lighter load. You're talking about the average person. I'm talking about, like, the regular Joes, right?

People that work at fucking Starbucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, they have no control over their lives at all they can't you want to take a day off fuck off you can't take a day off so by your definition

you have complete autonomy so yes you are within your definition of socialism conveniently yeah and also on top of that

like I have for example I have a podcast yeah as well it's called Fear In and I you know

I collaborate with another content creator. He's my best friend for a long time, and we have a producer. And we just split it three ways, like everything. Wow. Down the line, and not just the revenue, but also the decision-making as well. So the way we do it—I'm sorry. Why is your jaw dropped?

Why is your jaw on the floor? There is mutiny happening in the ranks right now. Just looking straight into my camera, and I'm just shaking my head so we know when we can cut. Can you feel it? Oh, yeah. Stavros said we should unionize. Yeah. Hey, you notice his workforce is three people, right?

Yeah. No, but this is good. This is good. So, the way I do it is, like, the decision-making process is also incredibly important, I think. Like if someone is like, I don't want to work on that day, let's work on this other day, that's like a huge part of your life. Like that's a big thing that you never have in any other workforce, the autonomy of like the decision-making process. The process in which we like take on advertisers or whatever or, you know or whatever kind of Patreon benefits we want to do, all that shit is decided across the board by all three parties involved. And that is one way of doing it.

First of all, I think that's great. I think it's great to give everybody a say. You probably do recognize that as you would, let's say, scale and have more employees, it'd be trickier to give everybody— Yeah, for sure. And we even contract as well. It's not like— No, no, I'd be trickier to give everybody. Yeah, for sure. Sorry. And we even like contract as well. Like, it's not like, you know, there are. No, no, I'm not trying to call you out.

I guess what I'm trying to say is like literally decision making. If every decision you have to go through a hundred different employees, that would get tricky. You can do it with 15. And that's the reason why I said, that's the reason why I said it doesn't have to be that way as well. Like there are different ways of doing it. There are different ways, many different ways of doing it.

It's just one way. It's just one way that I do, especially the podcast side. So, but I do see that. Can I, because one thing I think that I think most people would agree with, regardless of where you lie on the spectrum, is that you want workers to have more rights, the ability to make more money, and more freedom in their life. Yes. If you're not an asshole, you probably agree with that, right?

Yeah, exactly. But are there ever workers where you're like, I think they should get paid less? Like, do you ever, like, run into those people? There are. Sometimes. I've never had a situation like that, luckily. Never had, like, a waitress or someone where you're like no no because like the way i see it especially with like with like way staff right yeah i i like unfortunately in

america they get paid dog shit and it's all tips right yeah so even if someone sucks absolutely sucks i'll still tip them i'll still give them a fat tip yeah because i see it as like it's literally where they disrespect you or disrespect your girl no even it's just like it doesn't matter no matter what because like bro the person that's never happened so i don't know but the person there is having a way worse time at it overall than that brief interaction that you have i want it to be on his side this cheat i want it to be on his side i'm white i tip no matter what because it's in my culture. But he actually, what's funny is

as he's gotten richer, he tips worse and worse. It's a really interesting phenomenon. That's not true. It's a really interesting phenomenon. Why are you saying that? That's not true. It's really interesting to watch.

Wait, why are you saying that? I just seen it happen. When you go to a fancy restaurant, how much do you tip? 15%. You don't have to tip anymore. I never have tipped 15% once in my life.

That's unacceptable. You started something here. Oh, no. Wait, wait, wait. Wow. You're playing my life. You started something. Wow. You started something here. Oh, no. Wait, wait, wait. Wow. You're playing a game. You're playing a game. Stop.

You're lying to impress the guests. Yes. You paid 15%. That's crazy, bro. Never once. No wonder the waiters are disrespecting you. Never once in my life. You are, bud.

You really are. Bro, that's crazy. I knew it was something. Dude. No, no, no. Are you being serious? I deadass heard you say to somebody, probably in this room, when you go to a nice restaurant,

they know you tip 15%. That's just what it is. No, 20% is bare minimum. Bare minimum. But what if they disrespect you? 20%. And I fucking am upset about it. You know what?

If they disrespect me, I tip 20%, but I do it on the customer copy. Oh, so they have to do it. It's kind of inconvenient. Figure it out yourself. Yeah. Figure it out yourself.

Or sometimes you'll do the math wrong. That's it. And they'll still get the same amount of money, but it won't be the right sense. Yeah, yeah. Why are you making up these shenanigans? Because you got defensive and you're projecting. He doesn't tip. He doesn't respect people.

I'm the one with the bad memory here. I'm the one that forgets things. Do I forget things? What do you tip? What do you tip? What do you tip, Argos? At least 20. Fuck you. Now, post-pandemic.

Shut the fuck up, dude. Post-pandemic, I swear to God. Shut the fuck up. Post-pandemic. This guy's never tipped 20% in his entire fucking life. You've never tipped 20% in your entire life. This shit is good. It's fine.

Because somebody's lying. It's fine. He never goes out to dinner with us. There's fine. He never goes out to dinner with us. There's one time he's been out to dinner with us in the last year. How would he know?

Because he doesn't want to embarrass you with how high his percentage is. Hey, what did you just say? I do remember in Miami when he took us out, he tipped pretty high.

It was actually over 20%. Yeah, I usually go above. When we went out in Miami, I forgot the name of that restaurant. We went to Chipotle. It was a nice restaurant. I tipped 50% at Chipotle.

That is one thing that dramatically changed my life. This guy is such a liar. That's one thing that dramatically changed my life is like back in the day. Leaving your friends, they're pieces of shit. Did that help you? Did that help you a lot?

Hey, which one of us is getting defensive right now? I'm a little defensive. You're attacking my culture. Okay, whites have few things, but tipping is one of them and we fucking bring it Dude I would even say

Now I'm getting pressure From the fucking Turks Over here I would say 20% Is a little low For somebody rich If I Yeah

Yeah I do more than that Yeah we'll do it I'm just Take it all Fucking take it all How about that Take all the money How much do you

How much do you tip It depends So like First of all, 20 is definitely the minimum, right? No matter what happens. Now,

if you suck, I don't think you deserve 20. No, even if you suck, you don't deserve 20. No, no, no,

I stand on that 10 toes down. If you suck, you don't deserve 20. I don't, I don't like the tipping culture that we have regardless. He's out of himself. But if you're decent,

even, at least 20. For me, for me, it's not based on performance. Like 20% is the bare minimum because like, I don of himself but if you're decent even at least 20 for me for me it's not based on performance like 20% is the bare minimum because like

I don't see it as like a performance based compensation I literally see it I see it as like survival like this dude this dude needs the money

bottle waitress she needs it bottle waitress she needs it she needs 20% I just no matter what it is like one thing I never

used to do when I was younger is like I never used to tip when you like go to a Chipotle and they just ask you and it is like one thing i never used to do when i was younger is like i never used to tip when you like go to a chipotle and they just ask you and it's like well i'm picking up the fucking you know i'm picking up the food here now right yeah yeah yeah now they don't deserve it right now definitely no it's not that they deserve it it's just i was also kind of broke you know what i mean but now i i even tip then like i just drop a stack now you're low uber eats what about Uber

Eats always but I do the percentage or an amount tip now it's like I think it's like 25 is the max that you have uh in the in the immediate allocation I think it's like 15 20 25 is what I give an amount I give a straight amount yeah I it just depends it depends but usually it's like if it's like a fat world. It's five bucks, man. It's five dollars. That's what it is. Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. Oh, now we back. Now we back. I got that number from him. Five bucks, bro.

Five bucks. It's the same work to bring the thing over in the car. It's one hand. It's hot. Boom. It's hot.

You got writing nothing down? Wait. You got going back and forth? You not asking me how's everything tasting tonight? I give him that Ibrahim Lincoln, bro. If you don't ask me

how's everything tasting tonight? That's it. Five dollars. That's it. That's crazy. ask me how's everything tasting tonight, $5. That's it. That's crazy. Why would I disrespect waitresses like that? Son, you don't respect waitress.

The waitress was with me the entire night checking on me, water. This guy's risking his life to get the food to you. Get a drone, loser. Get a drone. It's literally worse.

They are using their own fucking car. They're paying for gas. They're getting parking tickets and shit. All right, $6. You got some good points there. literally worse. They are using their own fucking car. They're paying for gas. They're getting parking tickets and shit. Alright, alright, alright. Six dollars. You got some good points there. No, it's so much worse.

I definitely go max out. You max out. Or it depends on if it's like a big order for like a big party or whatever. I think you're right. I think I should tip them more and waitresses less. Okay, what about strip club? Dollar? Is it dollar? These a strip club? Oh. Dollar? Is it dollar?

These bitches come on, bro. Dollar? I haven't, like, I don't think I've been to a strip club since I haven't been broke. So I don't even know. Like, I just, I have not been to a strip club recently. So I don't know what I would do. I don't know what I would do. I mean, I have no problem with it.

Like, I love strippers. They're great. But let's say that we're all at the strip club. Yeah, tonight maybe. Tonight maybe. Uh-huh. We all have wives, so that probably won't happen. Uh-huh.

But in a hypothetical situation, right? Are we making it? Oh, yeah. Are we making it rain? Yeah. Of course. You got to do it. You have to.

You have to. A hundred percent. In the strip club, you can't be, like, respectfully giving, like, a $100 bill. You know what I mean? It comes out. You have to throw it. You have to. A hundred percent. In the strip club, you can't be like respectfully giving like a hundred dollar bill. You know what I mean? You have to throw it. You have to throw it. Or ball it up sometimes. Exactly.

It's a part of the process. Exactly, yes. It's a part of the process. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you ever ball the dollars up and chuck it at them? That's disrespectful. That's disrespectful. That's what this guy does, bro.

No, no. This guy's a monster. Why are you guys outing each other? This guy's a monster. It's you. That's what this guy does, bro. No, no. This guy's a monster. Why are you guys outing each other? This guy's a monster. It's you. This is what you're doing. You're dividing conquerors. Socialist divide, bro.

Look at that. Literally. But what he did first time. I thought out of everybody, he was the most leftist. Oh, didn't you think that? That's what I thought. I am. This guy's not leftist.

He's a Catholic, bro. Yeah, socialist. Catholic socialist. I'm black. Come on, bro. Jesus. Look. Catholic socialist. I have a man bun, okay? We took him to the strip club. He was balling up dollars. That's why I thought, like, before anybody else.

He's spying. He's spying right now. Spying. Spying. Balled up dollars. Enemies. Pump fake. Shooting threes.

Buzzer beater. Fadeaways at the stripper's water on stage. It wasn't dollars. No, it was three fadeaways at the stripper's wall. It wasn't dollars. No, it was coins, okay? You're a crazy guy. It was coins. You're a crazy guy for that one. Don't you make like one of those like fucking, you know, early 90s comedy bully style like snowballs where you put like pebbles in it?

Yeah, exactly. He's like, you balled up a dollar and put like coins in it so it was weighty. She didn't duck. I don't know. Like, what do you want me to say? They were loving it though. They were concussing strippers. No, they would go like this

for the hoop. It was sick. Oh, yes. There was that one strip club, Claremont Lounge. Yep. Oh, that's right. The old ladies.

You don't know about that. Oh, in Atlanta. Oh, the old ladies strip club. No, I'm good on that. No, why? Are you ages? The lady crushes a beer can with her titty.

That was awesome. Smash. Pong ball out of the pussy. That sort of thing. No, no elasticity left. These are old. It's like an Smash. Better. Pong ball out of the pussy, that sort of thing. No elasticity left. These are old. It's like an old gym sock. You never seen like a.

You never know, man. If they've been doing kegels, they have like a competitive edge over, you know, young 20-year-old strippers. Oh, maybe. They've been doing kegels for years.

Yeah, their pelvic floor is strong. Shoving them out. It's like Yoshi eating a watermelon. Yeah. Just spraying the whole block oh you thought yeah he's just like

oh you thought I only had one ping pong ball try 30 she got the extendo club dude we need to go back to Atlanta

yeah she's like oh you threw you threw coins at me watch this boom right in the fucking head I got her way worse

than she did I feel like Abraham that shit fucked me up but shout out to strippers man like yeah you know the real troops Watch this. Right in the fucking head. I got her way worse than she did. I feel like Abraham. That shit fucked me up. But shout out to strippers, man. Like, you know. The real troops. The real, you know, on the front lines.

Yeah. You know? Is there anyone you won't tip that you conventionally, like, would? Is there any place where you're like, ah, these movers, I don't know. Yeah, you're crazy. Yeah, do you tip your landlord? Yeah, who tips the landlord? There's plenty of places I, yeah, I'll tip my landlord. Why not?

I mean, I don't even, I have a house now anyway, but. To go, that's right. When you pay your mortgage. Yeah, no. To go coffee. You get a to go coffee. I still tip. I tip no barista.

Yeah, I tip downstairs. Did you really? Yeah, 20%. I'm going to ask them. Go ask them. To go coffee. And like when I do that. People like you fuck it up for everybody else%. I'm going to ask them. Go ask them. And like when I do that. Sam, people like you fuck it up for everybody else.

I'm going to be honest. See, I told you he was against tipping and you didn't believe me. Yeah, probably. And now the truth is coming out and I appreciate your honesty. Hey, no, I'm being honest. You're not. I've been honest this whole time. Here's the other reason though. What if it's a fan?

I don't know where this guy just conveniently forgets entire summations about a tip that he gives these guys. That's a good point. What if it's a fan? You go there. If it's a fan, I have to tip. But you don't know. I hate that shit, though. I know you do.

I hate that shit, yo. Yeah, man. Maybe Andrew was right. You recognize me off work, dog. Jake, Jake. Maybe he was right. You do seem not like you're into tipping. Yeah, I'm honest.

He's not. That's my whole point. I love tipping. See, that's my whole point i love tipping see that scale come on come on come on come on anyway all right where do we stand what about his nose says he's a big tipper good is tax evasion are we good with that or no no no not at all good with that you have to pay your taxes i you have to pay your taxes i it's such a fucking complicated process regardless which i wish it was easier um but I mean most people that first of all every American does some form of tax evasion which

is crazy yes like there's everybody all the way to the fucking yeah now you guys are all going to jail okay I yeah I'm working with the 87,000 new IRS agents actually,000. Yeah. They're coming in right now. But, no, I mean, taxes are important, man. It sucks that it, like, goes to fucking blowing up brown kids in, like, Yemen. But that's a great excuse for rich people to not want to pay their taxes. I know. Don't we all do that? Like, oh, I don't want to give it to the government so they blow up brown kids.

The way I see it is, like, if they were blowing up the right people, we still wouldn't want to pay. Yeah. The way I see it is that it still is like a fraction of it. It's still going to schools, rows, shit like that. Fraction.

Yeah. Fraction. Yeah, I mean, it's still, those are incredibly important resources. until we smarter than China at math,

you should lower my taxes. Where the fuck's this money going? Kids getting dumber every year, Huston. That's what I'm saying. No American fucking likes that because, like, especially since, like, the Reagan era, everyone has been going on the starve the beast attitude where they're like, yeah, fuck the government. And the government fucking sucks. It's true. There's no good, like, we don't have any fucking healthcare.

Healthcare bills are getting higher and higher no matter what the fuck happens educate public education sucks ass democrats and fucking republicans both want to take funds away and create charter schools and shit that are unaccountable agree and and really fucking awful in and of itself and that's the mentality that genuinely makes americans go why the fuck am i paying tax i gotta tip the government i'm not seeing anything from that which is why i love like you know the the trump uh the trump bucks the stimmies that was great that was for the first time ever every american was like wait a minute the government's like kind of got my back a little bit yeah which by the way the cnbce and like all the fucking you know fox business and everybody else literally hated that

i mean they'll talk about it well they're like oh it's inflation you gave poor people money yeah well you can't print that much money without inflation happening but most of the money wasn't printed for the poor most of the money was printed for the fucking stock market yeah yeah and also exactly ppp which you know people abuse the shit out of yeah now they're getting locked up for no No, they're not. I mean, some. A bunch of people. Yeah, we know a guy who went to jail for PPP. It's like,

Andrew's going to jail. We know. We know. No, we know. Yeah, we do. Yeah. I saw him on Instagram recently taking his daughter to jail.

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to do it no no politics i hate what are your i hate politics what are your aspirations beyond streaming i love streaming i just want to do it uh to a larger audience that's it like if i if i'm like walter cronkite uh numbers but i'm still doing the same shit that I'm doing, then I'm perfectly set, perfectly happy. That's what I – I know that everybody always is like endless growth, endless growth. We got to constantly keep growing and constantly keep grinding. And like I do have that in me too. I have that dog in me for sure. But I'm not interested in like going on CNN and having a show on CNN or some shit like that.

Plus, they're not going to pay me. Like, let's be real. They're not going to pay me the amount I make now. It's shocking how good it is. Unless people are going to see it. And yeah, well, CNN still is a pretty large audience, like depending on what time slot we're talking about. It ain't Fox News. You want numbers.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, how many, what are the numbers that Fox News is doing right now? I don't know, but Fox News is probably in the millions. Oh, really? Yeah, prime time, probably. And if you had, like, let's say you did your streaming, but you did it at a specific time. You're like, hey, I go on every single day at 6 or every single day at 7. Do you think that would increase or decrease?

I do that already. But you'll stream for 10 fucking hours a day. Yeah. I start at 11 PM Pacific, 11 AM Pacific every day. Usually what I'm saying is if you would consolidate it to one or two hours, do you think all those people would meet you there? Or do you think that the convenience of being on for that long allows these different people to tap in? Yeah. I think the convenience allows people from, like, all around the world. That's right. You're dealing with different time zones and that kind of shit. But I don't do, like, repeats or anything.

They can just, like, watch the VOD or watch my YouTube videos and shit. Did you know there was kind of a void in the market streaming-wise where things were kind of right of center and you could be left of center and there was a market there? It wasn't. I didn't think about it on like market terms because i didn't because like when i started making videos on the young turks originally it was so right wing like youtube was incredibly right yeah yeah and all the fucking essayists and everyone else was just like

oh there's a you know a black woman in a fucking uh new cartoon and that's woke and fuck that you know the feminazis are coming after you. Like everybody, all these like fat neck bearded fucking weirdos were just like cutting 25 to 45 minute videos about like go woke and get broke. Like that sort of thing. And that was like, everyone was doing that. And that market was like awful. And I did want to push back against that.

Like I wanted to, I wanted to counter that propaganda by being like, look, you can be like a normal person who enjoys even buying dumb shit every now and then and also a person who can like laugh at jokes without immediately being like, this is actually a microaggression or this is triggering. So here's my question about when you stake your claim on a political side, do you find people trying to constantly catch you and out you?

Yeah, always. And how do you also be a human being? Human beings can laugh at shit that is hypocritical. I'm a biggest fucking hypocrite. We're all hypocrites. But also have a guiding hat. Have a moral compass or guiding light. And how do you balance that?

Because I feel like that happens to everybody to the political realm. What you're looking for is like seeking out hypocrisy in that regard is usually just hyper-focusing on the aesthetics. Like anyone that has watched me for a long enough time knows that – knows exactly what I value. So these are people who are looking to discredit you. Yes. And because you've positioned yourself politically in a way, they can use those beliefs to go, ah, ah, ah, you did something wrong here.

The greatest example of it is literally every cancellation, which is fucking bullshit anyway, but every cancellation I've had since I bought the house has literally been the same thing with like a new fucking patina it's just you're rich you're a socialist but you're rich like how the fuck does that work yeah and it's so easy to just like uh dump into that yeah to join in on the fun because everyone is conditioned into thinking socialism is a poverty cult right they don't even think about it they're're not like, how has he made his money?

Right. Like, bro, everything I do is free and readily available on the internet. I do it for eight fucking hours and I don't paywall it. I don't do any of that shit, right? With the exception of the podcast, which now has like additional content behind a paywall, but it's only one hour of the episodes. And I tell people to pirate it if they want to. I don't give a fuck.

Yeah. Right? but it's only one hour of the episodes and i tell people to pirate it if they want to i don't give a fuck yeah right um not only that but all there's like if you search my name on youtube there's a million fucking channels some of them have check marks yeah i've seen this yeah yeah hundreds of thousands i watch most of your stuff yes is i'll watch other people clipping it and posting yeah people take yeah people take my fucking stream and just re-upload it in its entirety and make money off of it. Yeah. And I let that happen. And I, like, I've straight up

went to YouTube and I was like, I want these channels to operate. I'm not going to shit. They're not my fucking, you know, they're fan channels,

but I don't give a fuck. It's great marketing too for you. Yeah. It's university, baby. It's Win-Win. It's Hustlers University. You did the tape before tape. That's like Hustlers Community College.

Yeah, I mean, everyone's talking. It's literally a win-win. And I, of course, I would make so much more money if I wanted to, like, you know, streamline that process and, like, claim, you know, do copyright claims and shit. But ultimately, it doesn't matter. I make too much money as is. Where do I make the money? Voluntary subscriptions on free fucking content. Like, yeah, I'm sorry that, you know,

50,000, 6,000 people are like, no, I fucking, I fuck with this guy. Like, I'm going to give him $5 a month for no fucking reason. And then people are like, no, fuck that guy. Yeah, yeah. It's not like I put a gun to anyone's head. I don't think it's because I think that

they don't like other opinions you might have and they're like, this is the way that I can say fuck you. And I think there's, but, go ahead. Okay, so I guess what I, so the tricky thing is always, how do you police yourself and make sure you're not doing that to other people? Where you're like, how do you go,

okay, I don't like how people try to discredit me based on one thing. When you know the entirety of my thoughts, how do you make sure that there isn't someone else that you're doing that to? Well, I care less about the hypocrisy of people's actions, even though it is like punchy and it's easy for people to like immediately go,

oh, that's hypocritical. That guy sucks, right? But I care more about like what they're doing and what the consequences are. Singular issue and the consequences of that issue. Like I don't give a shit if Ben Shapiro is like hypocritical. I give a shit if Ben Shapiro- Says this one thing that you disagree with.

So your statement is less about them as a man or a person and more about that singular belief. That's great. That's mature. Yeah. But ultimately, like, the hypocrisy policing is, like, a good way to propagandize your position. So I certainly jump on that train, too. Don't, you know, I'm hypocritical myself, obviously. Because I love calling out hypocrisy.

Yeah. It's the easiest way for me to not care. It's such an easy dunk. You know what I'm hypocritical myself, obviously. Because I love calling out hypocrisy. Yeah, I... It's the easiest way for me to not care. Yeah, it's such an easy don't. You know what I mean? It's such an easy don't. I get to dismiss someone and not care. All right, cool, I don't have to invest in that.

Yeah, I think that point is great. It's an easy way to remove yourself from the political sphere. Yeah. To go, oh, that person's a hypocrite. I don't even have to respond to what they say. And on the other side, that person's also a hypocrite. Who gives a fuck about either of them? Yeah.

This you is like the greatest thing you can do. It's always like a good flip to be like, this you, and then, you know, show like an old tweet or some shit.

And everybody loves that. Everybody loves engaging in that. And the way I see it, like, here's a great example, right? Everyone loves doing the, I'm going to key search Asian on your fucking Twitter from like before 2012.

Let's see. Everybody has an Asian joke on Twitter. Everyone has made like a dumb fucking joke like that, right? Not me, though. I'm built differently. It's fine. You're also Asian, right? Technically, yeah.

That's true. Let them rip, my boy. Exactly. So everyone has that, right? But shit that you've said 10 years ago do not reflect your current values. Shit that you said three years ago might not reflect your current fucking values. Like, we as human beings learn and grow and change our fucking minds about things all the goddamn time. And everyone recognizes that.

So it's insanely frustrating when people on the left and people on the right do this shit all the fucking time where they're like well got you you fucking said something that was bad and wrong even if you might have changed your mind well maybe you didn't actually change your mind yeah yeah totally you got me that's so dumb and that's always the the there's always something that that person who's, like, calling you out has also done that you can always, like, counter with. Happens immediately. Yeah, immediately people will go through their fucking thing. And it's just this, like, never-ending cycle of just proving the point that, like, everyone's hypocritical, like you said.

Everyone has privilege blind spots. There's an intersectionality of privilege. Like, ultimately, even if you're, like, a trans black woman who is disabled or whatever, like you're still American. So now you have like American imperialism that you can benefit from potentially. And maybe your privileged blind spot in that regard is going to be, you know, people in the third world that are getting fucking butchered and slaughtered. Right. So I recognize that. And that is one of the guiding principles that I have, which is why I always yell at people in my community whenever they come in,

and they're like, oh, we've got to cancel this guy. You can't collaborate with this person. This person has said that. This person has said that. I'm always like, nope, we're not doing that. I love when you do that. You have an interesting relationship with your audience. It's really, they're antagonistic, and then you're often ruthless to them.

Yeah. You're like, scream at the chat. Yeah, like a dictator. Yeah. Yeah, I love that. Scream leader. Because it's the most, so the way it works is like, anyone and everyone can talk in my chat. Most people do, especially at my level, most people don't even look at their chats, because chats like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know how you even read it. Yeah, I'm insane. But there's like 30 000 40 000 people in there they're all writing shit right um so there are different ways of stopping people from writing you one easy thing is like subscription only i never do that because i want to have a as democratic of a of a place as possible so i can get as many opinions as possible, some people like to take advantage of that and, like, try to piss me off. So when they do that, I'm going to make an example of them to show everyone. Like, I'm going to whip my chat to ensure that, like, they understand what the boundaries are.

Yes. And if you're constantly breaking those boundaries, you're fucking ruining the content for 40,000 other people. Eye for an eye. I'm not going to do that. It's like when Orson Welles would fire someone the first day on a movie set just to let everybody know, like, I'm not fucking around over here. Oh, is that his thing? That was apparently a thing that he did, yeah. Interesting. So you do

understand on some level how tyrants organize society. And there is some efficiency and functionality to it. For sure. Yeah. That's what he's been waiting to hear this whole time. I mean, there's two, I guess, two discussions. One is if it's the right way to do things, which I think we all agree it's not. We want democracy, but I assume a version of it.

Yeah. Right? But I'm not an anarchist. I'm not like every decision that we make needs to be dealt with by a fucking democratically organized council of individuals or whatever. I don't think that. For things to run smoothly in content creation, of course there's going to be an authoritarian element. Even in companies as well to a certain degree. It's just a delicate balance of like making sure that you are doing right by the people that are providing the value for you. Especially when it comes to your, your

workforce. Like you could shoot this podcast on your own. You could put a fucking camera in front of your face and shoot it by yourself, but it would never be as good as this podcast is now because you have all these people that are generating value that are, you know, putting in the work. So that's entirely different. But if someone is, like I said, taking advantage of your generosity in that respect, because, like, it's free for all. You can say whatever the fuck you want. And it can be, if you're coming in earnestly and honestly and you want to learn something

and you're asking a genuine question, then that's fine. I usually have a decent way of reading that, even though it's hard to interpret sarcasm or shit like that over the internet. But if you're coming in to be like, you say you're a socialist, but you bought a $3 billion house. Just curious. Like if you do that, and I've seen that a million times already, I don't know exactly what that is i'm gonna fucking click pull you up to the fucking public square and execute you in front of fucked your mom you know in my three billion dollar mansion now at a certain uh amount of money can we organize like a coup of you oh where we take you on and we're like, listen, he's one of the boys now. This like take care of the workers and all that shit was, don't worry about that.

Don't criticize him for this at all. The nicotine gum is- Take that out of your mouth. I really love it. And then we just go, let's just run it up. Yachts. Let them eat cake. Thank you, my boy.

Thank you, my boy thank you what do you mean like you want everyone to have a yacht in my community no just you bro just you yeah i mean you can have armenian workers on the yacht they're running around like bring it on the land what do we think dude yacht week we just do a yacht week with the boys. How do we balance that? I like luxurious shit, but, I mean, that's not, you know, that's never been really something that I'm into personally. I'm not, like, a nautical guy. Okay, no yachts, then.

No yachts. Okay. Not like a— Aspen. We go to, like, a ski weekend. Yeah, yeah, snowboarding. Do a little— I mean, I would do some shit like that.

Rub shoulders? I could do some shit like that rub shoulders I could do that right now like I could fucking you know yeah let's fucking do it but the problem is like I like streaming too much so that's the reason

we bring Starlink we bring your boy Elon Starlink I know you and Elon have a good thing we're good friends I was talking to him the other day

and he loves your your commentary like when his baby mama came on the show rhymes dude that did that cause a little i saw did that cause a little issue i don't i mean i'm sure he knows who i am but i don't think he's uh too fond of me regardless really what i fucking rip into him all the time he sucks but wait why does he suck he is like the perfect definition of a fucking con man i'm supposed to love everything

he does normally and you're supposed to like he's he's literally in the renewable energy space he's doing space exploration love those things right but he is such a fucking rugged capitalist con man that has been able to like use uh energy credits to his advantage every single industry that he's in suspiciously only operates off of government subsidies. Okay, this is, I think, a reasonable criticism. Yeah. Can you explain the energy credit thing? I think a lot of people don't understand how.

In order, within a capitalist framework, in order for us to try to reduce our carbon emissions, our output, what we try to do is incentivize companies with tax breaks or direct dollars. These are car companies. Yeah, car companies. And every company has some kind of like... Oh, you can buy energy credits for him even if you're not a

car manufacturer? Well, not... Car manufacturers do this with the energy swap, but other companies do this too, like landowners do this, for example. John Oliver had like a big takedown on this thing that people do usually. They'll be like, this is underdeveloped or undeveloped land, and we're offsetting carbon by not using this land. Give us money. So, of course.

Yeah. And this is what's happening essentially. So, yeah, the government stipulates how many, like what your energy output has to be for your company, for the amount of cars you're putting out. So if you are not making a fleet of EVs, right, and like reducing. You're over. Yeah, and reducing your, you know. Carbon emissions. Carbon producing cars, then you can go and like.

Every one of his cars is not producing any carbon. Exactly. So now he has an excess of energy credits. So Ford, GM, and all these other companies can essentially buy his energy credits. Exactly. And some might say that that is why Tesla is so profitable. No, that literally is the reason. I don't know the economics of it, so I can't say. That is mainly

the reason, especially because like he has done... Brilliant, though. He's done the same shit over and over again where he'll just be like we're gonna do battery swaps never happens but it doesn't matter because the stock price reflects like what he says is what he said is gonna happen yeah tesla is not a car manufacturer it's a technology company which is why it's like valued at like 50 to 1 instead of yeah that's right yeah tech uh just have a higher valuation. Yeah, and you know, everyone wants to be in on the unicorn, so like everyone is invested in it,

and it becomes this like too big to fail scam basically. Yeah, because if we're all invested in your success and my savings are invested in your success, the last thing, I think this is why we feel like the stock market was floated a little bit when the pandemic came, because like if I'm all in, baby. Yeah.

No, that's how it works. They actually privatized what was otherwise known as, like, pensions and Social Security through 401ks. So even if you're fucking working in a kitchen or some shit, even if you're a chef and you're upper middle class, you think you have an ownership stake in the stock market. Because when the stock market is doing well, you feel like you're doing well, even if it's like fucking marginal. But when the stock market is doing poorly, those losses are socialized. So you're definitely fucked if the stock market is doing poorly. That's why everyone feels like invested in it, despite the fact that 90% of the wealth in the stock market is owned by the top 10% of wealth, which is fucking nuts. And if you're a fucking chef, you're not in the top 10% of wealth, brother.

Isn't that the case with all wealth, though? Isn't like 90% of wealth always held within the top 10%? Or the, you know, Jordan Peterson, Pareto principle. What is that? He says it all the time. The 20% or the— The 80-20 rule. The 80-20 rule.

The Pareto principle. 20% of the people make 80% of the things or something like that? Or the output is like dictated by 20% of the people. Right. The top creators. And that's not necessarily that bad. You're saying that as long as the people that are helping the creation of that are getting paid a reasonable wage. Yeah, reasonable wage and have like some control over their lives.

You know what I mean? I don't. Do you get – does anybody look at you and be like, I don't want that. I don't think this is a very unreasonable argument. Small business owners all the way to fucking, you know, CEOs and shit don't like that. They would literally go,

I don't believe that someone should have some control of their lives. If you've read, if you ever got brainwashed into fucking going to college and like reading an econ textbook, the textbook literally tells you what I'm saying is wrong. It's just wrong. Completely wrong.

The market decides what a fair wage is. The market doesn't at all account for human nature. Economics doesn't. Anytime you talk to an econ guy, he doesn't ever seem to account for human nature. Or human beings. They just think like, oh, it's a widget factory. Motherfucker, who's making the widgets? You know what I mean? A guy is making the widgets.

You know what I think also like manipulates reaction to this is like when you're in a creative field, there's a heightened value on creativity, right? And especially with the people that are working right here, like every idea is very important so we can come to the best idea, right? So you want to compensate creativity as much as you can. I think when you're so far removed from the thing you're creating, like the guy who makes the widget, you've never had a conversation with him before. You're like, well, what does he need to make?

What's the profitable thing? You're actually not valuing his creativity because you're like, I created the thing. You're just screwing it in or putting it together. Yeah, that's like, that is what happens in an increasingly financialized economy where, like, the guy who's never

stepped foot in the factory floor has the ownership stake and has the say, or he has even delegated the management responsibilities over to a board that has a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders.

This entire complex system is built in a way where profit, which is, you know, extracted wages, like the additional compensation that you would normally get that you're getting cut out of, and all control over your life as well, all autonomy in your life taken away from you, stripped away from you, is designed in a way to yield this kind of outcome. But haven't you seen recently the fact that people can work from home now, right?

Yeah. My wife just went to business school. She's working her job. Her job says you only have to come in two days a week, right? Yeah. And they didn't say it because that's what they want. They said because the workers are like, I don't want to go back in five days a week. Yeah, fuck that.

The great resignation is the whole trend of people just being like, oh, I hate my job. The quiet resignation? Now quiet quitting is another one. Quiet quitting. Great resignation. Which is literally just like you're working. this is hilarious supposed to so so great resignation first was a bunch of people like oh i hate this fucking job i'm out and now there's something called quiet quitting where employees are basically like hey i'm not going to go above and beyond what you've asked me to do and employees employers are like oh you're quiet that's called quiet quitting and And they're like, no, no, no, I'm not quitting. I'm just not going to kill myself for this.

Why would you? That's insane. It's just, and that came as a consequence of a little bit of, of, uh, a tight labor market creating conditions that genuinely are supposed to happen all the time, which has never happened before because labor had no power. Explain tight labor market. A tight labor market is when there is an unemployment rate that is so low that there aren't enough. There are not enough workers. There aren't enough workers for the jobs.

Okay. So now the- And that's bad. The power is in the hands of the worker. All of a sudden, exactly. You have to stay home three days a week. In normal econ conditions, when workers have more of a bargaining power, they can just say, all right, well, you know, if I quit, you're fucked. Right?

What are you going to do? You can't fill this role. That's a strike, essentially. And exactly. But that has not happened in the past because, well, two different reasons. One is because there's always an undocumented immigrant pool of labor that the American industry, especially like agricultural industries and shit, have always relied on to be like, okay, you're not going to do it. It doesn't matter.

I'm not even hiring you. I'm hiring the guy that just came in from Guatemala. And if he ever talks back, I could just call the INS or now ICE on him. Get another Guatemalan immediately afterwards. Yeah, and then go and do that, which, by the way, Purdue, for example, the chicken factories, they do this. This is a part of, this is built into their profit margin. It's calling ICE on the people that stopped working.

Yes, 100%. I've heard there, I've heard there. And the government doesn't punish you. Yeah, and the government doesn't punish you severely enough for undocumented immigrants, so you can just take an L one time, refuse to give them back pay, and if they ever ask for back pay, boom, call ICE on them, pay the fine, and then go back to the fucking exact same neighborhoods that you have created, right, and bus people into those neighborhoods and have

a steady pool of new workers that are desperate for a job. There's a, my wife was telling me about they're developing programs that will track keystrokes on your laptop, on your work laptop. Oh, my God. So this is fascinating. What workers thought was a blessing, which is I get to stay home. I do my laundry when I want. I'll sneak a workout in when I want to do, but I'm going to get my work done. As long as I'm getting my work done, the corporation is happy.

We're happy. I have a much more happy lifestyle. Everybody's good. And now they're starting to calculate keystrokes so they can tell if you're using your work laptop or not and how many hours you are using your work laptop. So while you're typing and while you're searching. Now there are programs that move your mouse

automatically. So it looks like you're doing something. Real quick, just so this is clear. So I guess what I'm saying is what they thought was going to be an advantage now has allowed the corporations to spy even more intently. If you were at work, they know you're there. So they're like, okay, we don't need to look over their shoulder every single second.

But they've developed software to be on you every single second. But then to Al's point, there will immediately be somebody who's like, here's a workaround. But not everyone has access to that workaround and knowledge of using that workaround. But what you are describing is basically something that Karl Marx understood fucking 200 years ago. Yeah, who's he? He's just a bearded dude. Wrote some texts, you know.

Yeah, yeah, he was a poster. Yeah, yeah. He was a big poster. Dirty, schlubby guy. With the mustache and those and the glasses. Oh, that guy. Yeah, the comedian. Oh, yes, yeah. He was a poster. Yeah, yeah. He was a big poster. Yeah. Dirty, schlubby guy. Oh, yeah. With the mustache and the nose and the glasses. Oh, that guy. Yeah, the comedian.

Oh, yes, yes. With the cigar. Yeah, yeah. I had some interesting ideas, but like it's, you have to always squeeze out as much profit as you possibly can, and profit is making sure that your workforce is working as efficiently as possible. So, that is another way to surveil their efficiency. Yeah. To ensure that they're fucking working as efficiently as possible. So that is another way to surveil their efficiency to ensure that they're fucking working because God forbid. Now, the irony,

of course, is that a lot of these office jobs, as we all know, if you've ever worked in this workforce, like if you're not in the service industry, especially like I did a job like that, you know, I did biz dev, right? And it's like, you're not working eight hours. That's crazy. You could literally bang out. You could fucking snore some Adderall and literally bang that shit out in like maximum an hour and 30 to two hours. And then the rest is just like hanging out by the cooler. So that's how it used to work back in the day. But now I feel like they are going to try and monitor and try to get eight hours of fucking work out of you, which is insane.

But all matter of technological improvements without any sort of labor power ends up fucking over the class. That I remember from the Communist Manifesto is technology invariably hurts the proletariat and makes the bourgeoisie more money. That was the thing that really blew my mind. Because technology, like artificial intelligence and automation, right? That's a beautiful thing. We're all on board with it. Someone's got to fucking clean the toilets. Hopefully it's a robot, not a human being, right? Takes jobs away from human beings. However, the way it works is because of the way that our economy is organized right now, when there's any kind of automation, they use that to reduce redundancy. So they will fire someone.

So instead of like having someone literally do like three hours of work for the same amount of pay, now they fucking fired that guy and loaded the rest of the workload onto one guy who will do eight hours of work now and have a higher output

because there's tech available that will make it so. And then what do all the other people do that are fired? They start a podcast. Yeah. That's how it works. That's how we are. What is the solution though?

Cause there's no, I can't imagine a business owner honestly doing it any other way. Yeah. Because why would they do it any other way? Because everyone is trained and conditioned into thinking this is the right way to do it, which I personally believe is not the right way to do it. So there are multiple different methods of ensuring this. The immediate thing you can do is unionization, obviously. Immunization? Unionization.

Oh, unionization. You can't say unionization. Like ensuring that workers have the power to collectively bargain with their managers. It's not like good, bad, left, right. It's just just. That's the way I see it. There's plenty of fucking union guys that are Trump supporters and shit. I don't give a fuck. As long as you are at the bargaining table and you can say, hey, we're going to get some benefits. We put in a lot of work this year. We made a lot more fucking money for the Kellogg's Corporation.

We should be able to take some additional time off. Yeah. Isn't the union the equal and opposite reaction to the billionaire? I mean, it's one way. It's the only way. It's the only way, right? It's the only way that you can push back against the way that your workplace is organized.

And they fucking hate that. Well, it's kind of human nature, though. I mean, that's how humans have evolved, right? There's like one super alpha male, and then the betas all came around, and they're like, we don't like one guy telling us to do, let's kill him. And then we just kept doing that, and we kind of domesticated ourselves. So it's a kind of natural, like, democracy is even a function of that. Yeah, it is.

We don't like one guy telling us what to do. We just do not like it. Yeah. And this is what we do with even famous people or successful people. We build them up, and we fucking tear them down. It's, like, in our DNA to be like, ah, too much power in that one guy. Fuck you. Yeah. And, and that one guy could be magnanimous. Right. And the way I see it is like, as someone who does have a lot of, of wealth, I try to use it for good as best as I can. I help organizing efforts. Like I bring in community

organizers, union organizers. Uh, I, I raise funds for philanthropies, mutual aid, all that stuff. union organizers. I raise funds for philanthropies, mutual aid, all that stuff. But it shouldn't be up to me. Like, it shouldn't be left to someone being like, I'm going to be a good dude in this situation and do what's right. It should be, that should be by design. And if that was by design, if we had a different way of organizing society, then we wouldn't have need for charities. And you wouldn't have to work so hard. What? No, I mean, I- You wouldn't have to work so much. You don't have to work so hard what no i mean you wouldn't have to put out three hours i know you have to stream 10 hours no i love but i love what i do i love what i do you have to do it bro this is fucked up this system dude this is a

fucked up system we're working in i i am so fortunate because look i work shitty jobs i and i got shitty pay yeah and I love what I do. So it doesn't even matter. Like I have a contract with Amazon, right? Because you have to get a contract if you're an exclusive partner with Twitch. And in that contract, there's like stipulations. I can't like talk about it too much.

But there is a certain amount of hours that like if you have a contract with a streaming platform, there's a certain amount of hours that you need to stream. Yeah, there's a minimum amount of hours that, like, if you have a contract with a streaming platform, there's a certain amount of hours that you need to stream. Oh. Yeah, there's a minimum amount of hours. There's, like, you know, things that you negotiate in that contract. What's really cool about working with Amazon is they treat their workforce so great.

Oh, so well. So well, historically. Is that a conflict of interest for you? What? Actual question, yeah. Like, working for Amazon. And Bezos. And Bezos, when I'm sure you disagree fundamentally.

Yeah, and I talk a lot of shit. Not only that, but I had, shout out to Chris Malz. He is the organizer, the labor organizer for the first ever Amazon distribution facility up here in New York, actually. Was it Staten Island? I think so, yeah. Oh, that was the one AOC was. Yeah, AOC was like helping them or something like that? No, AOC.

I think she pretended she helped them. No, no, no. There was a little bit of conflict, but like they're fine. They squashed the beef. But anyway, that part doesn't even matter. But I had him on the broadcast. You know what I mean? But is that like tricky or are you part of a greater system?

You are operating within the system, so no matter who you work with or how you work. No, you nailed it. It is that. It is impossible to escape the clutches of Amazon when you're working in any part, in any industry.

Because AWS owns like fucking 80% of the internet. Explain AWS to people. The Amazon web hosting services is the backbone of the internet. So every fucking website is still owned by, is hosted by every fucking website is still owned by them, is hosted by them. So like, this is where they built their, this is their, their emission credits

or whatever. Like this is where the real Amazon money came from. Exactly. And they own all like, they own like an insane amount of the, an insane percentage of the e-commerce too. So like, it's very hard to escape Amazon, almost impossible. And if you're going to escape Amazon, where are you going to go? Microsoft? Like, oh, those guys are really good. You know? So it doesn't matter who you work with in that situation.

Well, here's a question. This is why they say there's no ethical consumption under capitalism. Would it be possible to compete with one of them if you didn't have the same policies? You would be at such a disadvantage.

I don't think you would be able to do that. I don't even think that you would be able to literally fucking make an international competitor. Yeah, yeah. Unless, like, the rules were changed. Exactly. To side with the working class to ensure, like, the NLRB was, like, beefed up. Yeah. You know what I mean?

They got, like, fucking guns and they would, like, arrest you for, you know, not paying back pay or wage theft. Yo, he is going, yeah. You should be worried about that. He's like, fuck yeah. Dude, we keep everybody here, man. You got to have that, like, workers can never actually, you know, engage in emancipation and get better pay for themselves and better benefits and whatnot.

If that was not the case, then yes, there could be a competitor to something like Amazon. Because Amazon would be, like, fucking cut into pieces regardless. But as a singular individual, like trying to compete with Amazon with like a cooperative, let's say, or a unionized, like democratized workplace is pretty fucking difficult. Who's the model economy government? Who's that? Is there one right now?

I don't think there is one, no. I mean, it's like the way I see it, I'm not like a, you know, revolution tomorrow. You know, I got my fucking furry ears on, you know, type of person. I'm going to Molotov cocktail business owners or whatever. I just I see it as a as a transitional period, especially in America. Like you got to you have to make sure that the conditions are met. I don't think that there's a lot of revolutionary potential in the United States of America because we are a part of the labor aristocracy. I do think that we are beneficiaries of the third world exploitation.

You know what I mean? We don't even fucking think about it. But the shoes that I'm wearing, some Indonesian child slave made this shoe. But isn't there a little bit of silver lining in capitalism is that we like found how good Asians are at sewing? Right? Like they would never have known that. Yeah, no, totally. If we didn't need sneakers.

Yeah, they had no idea. And then they fucking got to sewing and they were great at it. At such a young age. Yeah, that's why. That's why they're doing it because they're so good. We're unlocking the potential of the third world. Exactly. What were they doing it because they're so good. We're unlocking the potential of the third world. Exactly. What were they doing before?

Karate or something? And then we found the exact thing that they're incredible at. So showing. Yeah. So capitalism is pretty good, too. On that front, I think that there is way more revolutionary potential in the third world because of the way that, like, production works there. Whereas here in, like america or in the western nations like we've already outsourced that there's no fucking assembly

line where you get together and be like yo this shit sucks huh like fuck this manager you know what i mean like why is he doing this why is he up my ass all day um that doesn't really happen as much yeah um and where there are assembly lines like there are already like pretty – those are unionized sectors regardless. But those unions are so fucking old school that they are kind of a part of the system itself too. Yeah, so it's just – it's too powerful of a force. So what I try to do is instill class consciousness in anyone and everyone that I can and do agitated propaganda to ensure that people will go out. At least know that there's something else out there. Yes, and try to get their workplaces organized,

which has been very successful. The first ever Chipotle union in Michigan were two Hasanabi heads, two fans of mine. One of them was reading a Mark Fisher book and the other one walked up to him and was like, oh, what's up?

You're reading a leftist book. You know Hasanabi the other one walked up to him and was like, oh, what's up? You're reading a leftist, you're reading a leftist book. You know Hasan Abi? You know Hasan Piker? And they started connecting. And then they, that's how they, yeah, that's the,

and then he said, yeah, you know Noam Chomsky? So I don't need a tip at that Chipotle. So, oh yeah, yeah, you go to that Chipotle, you're blasting him with tips. But yeah, no,

it's stuff like that. There's a lot of, there's a lot of organizers, student organizers and shit in my community as well. What about, and we talked about this with Stavros a bit, but like do you think it's also a function of time and value of life? And that America has been built and I guess kind of rejuvenated by the immigrant experience, right? Like your parents come here, they're like, yo, it's time to get it. Your dad is like, nah, you're not fucking around with the military. Like you're going to go out there and

get some, go get your education, get some money. My mom had the same idea with me. Al's parents, literally Mark's parents, literally all of us here are kids of immigrants. Kind of funny. And so we have this mentality where it's like, yo, here's the opportunity, go seize that shit, run with it. And then you give us a few hundred years. And then we start realizing like after we've gotten all this wealth, we're like— Third generation is when you get fully assimilated. There are studies done on this. So third generation means— Is when you start becoming a fucking loser at school.

Like, you don't give a shit. And then you start going, I think we should hang out with our family a little bit more and, like, enjoy time off. Yeah. Interesting. So what happens if America, since we're so young, in the next, let's even give us like maybe a couple hundred years. What if we start going, hey, you know what? It would be good if we value the work week a little bit more. Let's take August off.

Yeah, let's do what, because you see what happens? Do Europe and America. I wonder if we're just young and we're eventually going to get there. Yeah, you see what he's saying? Like once there stops being an influx of immigrants and we become second, third, fourth generation Americans. And everyone is American. stops being an influx of immigrants and we become second, third, fourth generation Americans and people aren't... Then maybe capitalism kind of leaves and then socialism

enables settlement. Because we realize the things that really make us happy which are like family, friends and taking August off. Essentially capitalism. It's a great idea for sure but no, I don't think that's going to happen. Really? You don't think it's a natural evolution? I don't think so. And the evolution? I don't think so.

And the reason why I don't think so is because, well, first of all, all those European countries, like, they did something just like America did, which was, you know, slavery and theft and, you know, colonialism. So that's how they were able to, like, build that profound amount of wealth that they're banking on. Some of those countries still actually manage the financial operations, like France, you know. They still own, like, the Central Bank of Somalia and shit. You know what I mean? So they still keep up with that. A lot of money in there, I'm sure. I mean, but yeah, it's an entire country.

So yes, there is a lot of money there. You know what I mean? Yeah, they're not caked up in Somalia, but it's still caked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, so there's a lot of that going on, but, um. Let us hope. Let us hope, Hasan. I don't, I don't think time is going to do that because with climate change, like there's always a new fucking.

Oh, you believe in that? Yeah, I believe in it because this is a Chinese conspiracy. So I, I love that. That's why I believe in it. Is that what they say? That China's paying you big bucks to say this shit? No, no. I just, I do like Xi do like xi jinping he's great

wait really i love high-speed rail bro i just it's fucking fire road initiative that shit is lit yeah that's good too the ugr stuff not great okay that's not great is that how it's pronounced uigur is how you're supposed to say it it's a turk word, right? Yeah, it is. They're Turkic, yeah. You say yogurt? I just Americanize it and say Uyghur. Yeah. But even their food is more Turkish than like Chinese. Yeah, they're Turkic. They are Turkic people. So why don't you all step it up and help out your boys?

Why are you rolling over? Get in there. You can't fucking do shit. What are you, crazy? You guys shot down a Russian plane. Y'all don't give a fuck. I mean, that's true. Turkey as a government doesn't care.

And they actually do act. They swung on dudes in D.C., remember that? Yeah that yeah son if you think america's bad that was insane if you think america treats their workforce poorly china let's take them out yeah i mean here's the thing that's a really interesting that's a really interesting take because i agree uh but that like one fucking or two decade of like hyper exploitation of its workforce yielded insane results for china so which is why they're going through their like 80s fucking period of like you know you know buying luxury because like china is popping the fuck off right now they are dominating terrifying and their economy is their economy is great. They're fucking, they're killing it. And part of that is because, like, they just straight up said, like, we're, I mean, it's a very different way of looking at it.

I don't think that they're actually, like, a perfectly transitional socialist state in the way that, like, a lot of people will claim they are on the internet especially. But they do have some really good ideas. $100 million would you work for the Chinese government? He just said they have some really good ideas. I do million would you work for the Chinese government? He just said they have some really good ideas. I do it for fucking... 50? I do it for the high-speed rail, dude. How much do you hate travel time?

That you're like, yo, China, China. It's not just that. It's like there's this concept of Chinese prosperity that they abide by overall, where it's like, yeah, the government is really authoritarian. There's no fucking social liberties. You know what I mean? There's no like civil liberties in the same way that you see it in like Western countries.

It's authoritarian. You know, there's no porn. I hate that. You know what I mean? I want to watch porn every now and then. Right. But having said that, it's more like you put your head down and you work because you know that the government's taking care of you no matter what happens because if the government

doesn't take care of you you know they they're not that far removed from a peasant's revolution like you know what i mean it's like they'll they they they have that uh in their history and they could technically do that they haven't um but ultimately they recognize that the government at least the chinese people i talk to will say there's this understanding that the government is uh unless you're you know an uyghur turk living in xinjiang then of course not that's uh the government has your best interest or tibet but ultimately yes the government has your best interest at heart and they show it too they build they build build build like fucking crazy and and they take this overall pool of wealth and they distribute it across this massive fucking land with billions of people.

And that's the reason why they've been able to prosper so aggressively over the course of the past like two decades. You don't think it's because they just like steal our technology and they don't do any research and development at all? Well, that's a really good take, actually. Steal our IP. That bargain was— Engage in contracts and then use software to rip off everything that we've done. No, no, no. That definitely cuts out a lot of the trial and error.

A lot of the work. A trial and error, for sure. They take advantage of our workers. They're taking advantage of our workers. No, you know who did that. Why are you okay with that? No, you know who did that. Why are you okay with that? No, you know who did that? Who?

The business owners. They knew that China was not going to abide by their IP and they still kept doing it. Why do you think the factories... Because they wanted money.

Yeah, why do you think the fucking factories are still in China, motherfucker? It's been like 20 years. You know they're stealing your shit. They're fucking good, dude. Yeah.

They're good. Because business owners were like, I don't give a fuck if my IP is stolen as long as I get that Chinese manufacturing. Which now they have developed to a point where Chinese manufacturing is definitely primo. You can get top shelf quality or bottom shelf quality still if you want in the same fucking factory.

But even they have to now outsource it to other places because now it's not – you can't meet those deadlines and you can't abuse your workforce once they become more prosperous. Yeah. So it's the same concept. It's the tendency of profit to fall always. Like the profit rate, the profit margins are always going to fall. So capitalism has worked out for them. With technological achievements. They did, I think, a mixed economy better than America ever has done.

But it worked. It helped them. It's not the capitalism. The capitalism was the influx of foreign capital coming into the country. Half capitalism. Yeah, that's why I said mixed economy. But the distribution of that wealth was spread out across the land. So it's impossible to do without capitalism.

Well, in a capitalist world, yes, post-Cold War, no USSR anymore. There's no, like, communism is demonstrably failed. Socialism is demonstrably failed. In that situation, it's like, yeah, you're going to look at that and dang did. You're going to look at that and dang did. And he said, yeah, we're going to, you know, to be, socialism is not about being poor. To be rich is glorious. Well, that's a mistranslation.

Who invented capitalism? I don't know. Mr. Capital. Isn't that crazy? We don't even know. I mean, but Adam Smith wasn't even a fucking capitalist. He wasn't even a capitalist. He wasn't even a capitalist. That's He wasn't even a capitalist, bro. That's the funniest part about it.

We invented it all, baby. Adam Smith fucking hates landlords and shit. Everybody with a fucking econ degree is like, Adam Smith, invisible hands. Like, motherfucker, you didn't read the text. Like, there's plenty of shit. Like, Karl Marx stole his work. I mean, technically didn't steal it,

but, like, plagiarized half his shit, bro. You took advantage of that worker. Yeah, exactly. That's fucked up. He also loves guns. That's why Karl like, plagiarized half his shit, bro. You took advantage of that worker. Yeah, exactly. That's fucked up. He also loves guns. That's why Karl Marx is lit. Let's fucking go, dude. Okay, so, all right.

Listen, I know that we don't have all day with you, but I do, before we get out of here, want to understand Nancy Pelosi. Smash or pass? Like, what do you mean? Where are we going with this? Okay. No, pass, for sure. Definitely pass.

Young Nancy? Young Nancy? Oh, yes. An absolute piece or what? Yeah, she was very attractive. Beautiful. Yeah. You see how she made it?

Well, I think she was a very good fundraiser early on in her career. She's a beast of a politician. Yeah. She's also, yeah, they say she's very good with the whip. She's actually very good at, like, whipping people. I mean, way better than fucking Chuck Schumer is for sure. Chuck Schumer has Dick Durbin as his whip. Nothing gets done.

The Senate fucking sucks. So, yeah. Okay, so she's a beast of a politician. Now, is— Incredible analyst, her husband, Paul Pelosi, you know, or George. I mean, yeah. George or Paul. It doesn't matter. Whatever.

He's great. He's so good. He really gets it. Good driver when he's sober. Crunching the numbers. He's so good at numbers. Why don't you have a fund? If he started a fund, it would probably be really successful, don't you think?

No, there are trackers that literally match what he's doing. They match his market moves. Is Nancy Pelosi deep state? What is deep state? What? Okay, do you know how, like, there's, I don't subscribe to this idea that, like, literally we're going to hand over the keys to America to a new dude every four or eight years. Like, this plotting and planning has to exist maybe 20, 30, 40 years in advance, And there has to be like a group of people that are doing this. And those people can move in and out.

But I don't think it's every four fucking years. That's dangerous. Yeah, I mean, they're not doing it in the shadows. It's just like rich people. It's called capitalism. They get together in front of you. They go to Davos. Like they don't do it in like a shadowy corner where they're like, oh, man.

So it's just corporations and government kind of working together. Yeah. Like Nazis would look at that and be like, oh, it's all the Jews. It's like, no, motherfucker. Protestants, especially in America, like— Ah. They all—like, everybody who's rich is already conditioned by the system to be like, I want to be more rich. To move the system to benefit themselves.

Exactly. And ideally, if America continues to be prosperous, then they will continue to be prosperous. And that's where government comes into play and they're working together. I think at this stage it's not even America. It's just like – it's just wherever you can, which is precisely why like the original like the gamble of moving manufacturing overseas yielded a – an incredible – Return. an incredible, prosperous China for the next couple decades, but was awful for that company.

Like, NAFTA was awful for the American workforce. Because they weren't thinking about how this would benefit America. They were thinking about how it would benefit that specific company. There was no, like, patriotism associated with that move. They were like, fuck the workers. Yeah.

The patriotic thing to do would be pay the workers here a little bit more and not build up this other country. Yeah. Yeah. No, I do feel that way. I agree with that. It's capitalism. So it is-

So are they exposing- It's a part of your life. You don't even think about it. Like when you're operating in that way. But are they taking advantage? Like is that the limitation of capitalism? Is that it puts your own country in harm's way? Your green puts green puts your own country-

This is what I was saying. It's like with technological achievements, ultimately it's going to become harder and harder to squeeze out profits. So you have to do one of two things, right? You either go to a new country that you can exploit and create a new underclass there, which we have done for many, many centuries,

400 years of slavery. That was one of the primary motivators for that. Or you have to fuck over your own workers. And we do a combination of the two things. However, when you do that, then your own workers can't consume. So ultimately, it's a double bind. Capitalism eats itself alive,

which is why Marx originally thought that the inherent contradictions built into capitalism was inevitably going to be its demise. But the welfare state has kind of put Band-Aids on it over and over again. That's why you see this boom-bust economy, the economy fucking tanking every like eight years in this like weird cycle.

I don't know. We act like that's normal. I feel like the limitation of capitalism is that if you're willing to do anything for money, then you would put your country at a disadvantage

for the right price. Like you would let Saudi Arabia buy up a stake in the New York Times and then put out whatever articles that they potentially want to put out

and silence whatever ones they don't. I thought that's – Or Twitter. Or Twitter or any social media. Facebook ads. Facebook, exactly. I thought that was the limitation.

So it's like you can be manipulated by your greed. The way I see it is like – Or have like a really handsome streamer with great hair just talk about how great China is every single day. Yeah, exactly. I'm paid by Xi Jinping. I think that like – I don't really care because I'm Turkish, so I don't really give a shit, an American, about national boundaries like that. I do care more about, like, uplifting people that are just everyday citizens everywhere all around the world.

Like, my ultimate goal as someone who believes in the things I believe in is just emancipation for everyone across the board. and the things I believe in is just emancipation for everyone across the board. And, you know, one way to do that here, at least doing my part in America, would be to at least have America get out of the way and not do coup d'etats when there's like a democratically elected socialist in a fucking Latin American country. I think most Americans are like, we don't want that shit either, bro. No, I agree. That's like corporate greed on another level. It doesn't fucking matter because America is not a democracy.

It is a, you know, it's fucking 10 multinational corporations on a trench coat. So it's just like there's no will of the people there. Right, right. I mean, the will of the people doesn't even work on domestic policy. We freed Britney, bro. I mean, exactly. That's the most you're going to get. And, yeah, you're right, bro. I mean, exactly. That's the most you're going to get. And yeah, you're right, though.

Most Americans, for example, abortion is a great example of this. Most Americans, even conservatives, are like, no, abortion is fine. Chill the fuck out, guys. But the Republican Party was like, no, we need to make sure that the 30% white evangelical Protestant base of supporters get what they have been demanding for a very long time. And look what happened. Everyone's like, that's fucking bullshit. You look at Kansas, and Kansas foolishly, due to the Catholic group and Kansas lobbying group, put that as a referendum in their elections recently recently like a couple months ago they put abortion as a referendum in the election they put yes in the in the uh upcoming like in the

yeah at the time primaries you could vote on whether they were gonna buy yeah and it was so bad they got fucking wiped out the republicans got fucking absolutely cum stirred because everyone was like oh fuck no wow primaries well. Everyone went and voted in the fucking primaries. Well, this is democracy working. Exactly. But because of that reason, Michigan has that exact same thing happening right now because it has a red state legislature. Yeah.

And now they're desperately trying to take that referendum off the fucking ballot. Hilarious. Because they don't want people to go and vote. And this is democracy not working. Exactly. I used to get added as a referendum in order for that thing to be exercised. Wow. So they're silencing the voice of the people out of fear of what they actually—

Yeah, which is why when Ben Shapiro and everyone else was always saying, like, ah, it's called more democracy, stupid. It's like, no, it wasn't. It was never. Most fucking— It was about to be. Yeah. Like, with the exception of, like, Louisiana and shit,

most fucking states, even red states, are going to let you do an abortion. That's crazy. Like it's insane. It's left to the will of the people. Yes, exactly. This is one thing Republicans I've noticed do brilliantly is they find the rules around or the loopholes of capitalism and then they exploit them. Yeah. I mean that's—

I mean not capitalism, sorry, democracy. How many abortions you got, my boy? I fucking—I have no idea. Let's go, Al. You know what I mean that's I mean not capitalism sorry democracy how many abortions you got my boy I fucking I have no idea let's go Al I mean I've raised I don't know I think

I think I raised like what have I raised like more than five kids two hundred thousand dollars or some shit for like you know red state abortion funds

really more than that no no no how many are you personally so that's what I'm saying so he's got to get his money worth. Oh, yeah.

I got you. 200 plus, $260,000. That's to your host. Louisiana, leave it in. So I'm out here, yeah, I'm out here like fucking, I'm funding all the abortions. Where are you at on universal basic income? I think universal basic income has been championed by those like Milton Friedman and shit too. And Andrew Yang, who I don't like. He sucks.

He's a fucking boring nerd. I told him if he didn't come on the podcast, he wouldn't be the mayor of New York. You're right. There you go. But it goes either way. I think it's a necessity in some ways, but it can't

actually be used as a way to eradicate the welfare state. That is also a necessity. Like, I think in the way that production works right now, because the distribution of wealth is not adequately spread out in our country, like, you're going to need it. At a certain point, you're going to need UBI. It doesn't matter. country, like you're going to need it. At a certain point, you're going to need UBI. It doesn't matter. It's going to have to happen because companies have consolidated all that power and all the profits at the top and motherfuckers still need to buy burgers. You know what I mean? Or else why are you- They have goods to sell. Yeah, you have goods to sell. So like you have to do that.

That's interesting. It's not in the government's best interest to help the people. It's in the company's best interest. It's like it's in the company's best interest for it's like the model t thing yeah he wanted a car that his employees could buy yeah right yeah in order for you to have people to buy burgers by the way he was a fascist but that's alienation like that is that is alienation is exactly what that is is that like it gets to a certain point with like division of labor being so exploitative that the person who's making the fucking sneaker in indonesia can't buy the sneaker yeah yeah you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah so the product that you're creating you can't purchase so is money just going to be like a water cycle

for companies where it just goes out of their like you know you buy the goods they pay the people then it goes right back into the company that's how taxes are supposed to work so that's you know kind of yeah and it and they will do it only when it's like literally a fucking necessity. Why do we get STEMIs? The American government never gives money to the poor. In the 2008 financial crisis, what did Obama do? He bailed out the fucking banks. They all got golden parachutes. Not a single motherfucker went to jail. Bullshit, right? How does that happen? Because the other way around, if they paid off all those mortgages with the money instead of giving it to the banks, then that's a moral hazard. That's what they call it.

They say it's a moral hazard. Why is that? It's only a moral hazard if you're helping the people who need it. Exactly. Because the poor don't know how to spend their money. You know what I mean? They're going to buy dumb shit. Which is what you want us to do.

Yeah. You want us to buy all the dumb shit. Exactly. Yeah. want us to do yeah you want us to buy all the dumb shit exactly yeah um but when the rich when you give the rich the money they're they're more productive with it which is ironic and not true because they shelter it yeah so it doesn't even matter they park it in like overseas or they park it in assets that are not even productive they are productive with it yeah they do make it into more money read the panama papers they are productive yeah that's what i mean like real but but it actually doesn't benefit the economy because there's no liquidity.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. So that's the never-ending conversation that e-com people have, which is it's always a moral hazard if poor people get money, right, because they don't know what to do with it. But if rich people get money, they've already shown that they know what to do with it because they're rich already what to do with it. But if rich people get money, they've already shown that they know what to do with it because they're rich already. That's fine.

And companies can literally build stock buybacks and also being too big to fail as a strategy into their fucking quarterly earnings. They're like, it doesn't matter. What's going to happen? Boeing is a great example. Oh, yeah. Let us go out of business? Yeah, our planes are falling. What's up? What are Boeing is a great example. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Let us go out of business?

Yeah. Our planes are falling. What's up? What are you going to do about it? Give us more money. And it's true. You have to. You have to do that.

Or else what are you going to do? Let a fucking American institution fail? You can't do that. Yeah. So that's how it works. They can do whatever the fuck they want. Yeah. I don't think that what you're saying is that disagreeable.

I think the average person would really appreciate a lot of your thoughts. That's what I try to communicate to people as best as possible. Outside of your taste in football teams, which sucks. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I think a lot of the things that you're saying here have been very reasonable. Yeah, the thing is, it is reasonable if you listen to me in a— But if you're just grabbing a sentence from a thing.

If you listen to me in an agreeable situation, but if you're like watching fucking clip compilations of me like raging at chatters and you already have this idea that like,

oh, this guy's a hypocrite, socialist, grifter, fucking, like what I always say is this, bro, if I'm good enough in media

to do whatever the fuck I want. To do the grift if you media to do whatever the fuck if you want why the fuck would i pick the most annoying yeah why would it be the broke ones the most annoying fan base like i'm sorry it's just it's every leftist hates each other like we constantly yell at one another it's so fucking bad why would i pick the worst fucking avenue yeah i could have just been like tim pool that motherfucker's boring as shit. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. He's saying the right things.

And right-wingers love that shit. They will dump funds into your fucking media operation. And you get to keep it. You don't have to do any philanthropy. Yeah, Ben Shapiro's like worth $40 million or something. Wow. And not a single peep out of people being like, wow, this guy's kind of a grifter, huh?

He's just saying what I want to hear. Like, you know, turns out that's the best way to grift. Why the fuck would I grift the other way? You don't see the Candace Owens is on the other side. You know what I mean? Like people are just, they're not doing that. That's what you have to say. You have to say, I am the leftist Candace Owens. Yeah. It's so dumb. It just like doesn't make sense. Like I could just easily, very easily do this if I wanted to be a grifter. I could just do it in the right wing way. Okay, last question. Alright, go ahead. Smash or pass Tommy Lahren? Oh, back in the day?

Back in the day. Yes, smash for sure. She was cute. Hasanabi. Thank you so much for coming, man. Tell them where they can get you. Tell them everything. I'm live every day at twitch.tv

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D as in dog. And I'm sure after watching this episode, you're going to see tons of his clips show up on YouTube and these are all independently cut.

Yeah, so don't fucking yell at me when some random fan channel has clipped this shit out. Because they always get mad at me. They're like, bro, what the fuck? You stole the thumbnail. I'm like, bro, I don't know who this person is. They're just a fan. They're trying to make money. Shut up.

Yeah. Guys, thank you for watching. Peace.