Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - “Diddy Doc is Worse than Life is Prison” | How 50 Cent Ended Diddy's Career
Episode Date: December 10, 2025YERRR – the boys break down the wild Diddy doc and everything it stirred up. From Biggie, Tupac, and the rise of Bad Boy, to power, control, and sociopathy, this doc is WILD and 50 Cent is WILDER fo...r putting this all together! All that and more on this week’s episode of FLAGRANT. INDULGE. 0:00 START: Holiday drinking + Don’t care for names 1:56 Cultural Marxist + License to carry 3:51 Big Ant’s the truth + take you shopping 6:53 Diddy doc - College, Biggie and Tupac 21:11 Replicating his father + Domination 25:20 Ultimate gatekeeper + Diddy had the parties 30:00 Recurring themes + Breaking huge artists 33:30 Tech revolutions + TOP ME 38:25 Diddy likes what he likes + Always CLEAN 42:06 Balance with Cassie & Kim 45:47 “What’s wrong with that?” + Sociopathy 48:00 Sober MFers, Associations + Gang affiliations 55:11 Trauma & DV 59:51 Diddy is out soon + All in the edit 1:05:06 Docs are dangerous + Diddy showering 1:08:40 1st podcast appearance 1:10:11 NYC cops arrested ICE, Diddy’s options + Trump’s pardon 1:14:00 Federal crimes, It might be a wrap + Patreon convos This episode is sponsored by Kalshi. This episode is sponsored by Sesh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Yo, are we drinking or what, man?
It's the holidays, bro.
We can't start, please.
You might have to get something, man.
Please.
Because Al is saying sentences with more than three words.
And once you get past three words, you don't know what's coming out.
You never know.
Let's go.
It's Secret Santa.
That's go.
All those are three sentences.
Hey, man.
But once you get into the multi-salamic, bro, you get fucked.
You do get fucked.
That was fine, what you just said.
Oh, man.
You know, I was watching, what is the guy, Gene Deal?
Do you know what that is?
No.
He's like a Diddy guy.
I don't know.
He's like working with Diddy in the streets or some shit.
Okay.
Wait, was he on the dock?
No, you got cut out of the dock.
He couldn't make it work because of money,
but he did an interview where you're talking about it.
I mean, New Yorkers are all the same.
Because he was just trying to say what the director's name was
and fucked it up 30 times.
The director's name is Alice Stapleton.
No, it's Alexandria, right?
Whatever.
Yeah, see, see?
Bitch ass, Nick.
He couldn't even get close.
Irony and the evidence. Literally, he couldn't even get closed, bro. He was like, yeah, man, fucking, you know, Alice, Alice Staples. What's her name? And, like, kept on having to cut off trying to talk shit about the director. Can I ask you a question? Is the gentleman you're talking about black? Yeah. Black people make no effort with white names. It's astonishing.
The amount of times when I would go up in hood shows that they would bring me up is Adam Schwartz.
Don't y'all have enough. A mosh? I got a mosh.
For weeks in a row.
Amos is good. Amos is good.
And not, not even sing.
Y'all give it up for Amash.
You're a shout to Smoky.
Yeah, shout out Smoky.
You're still Oscars for a lot of black comics.
Wait, don't we have enough what?
You have enough stuff.
Like, we can get your name wrong.
It's fine.
Yo, I hate this Marxist mentality that's...
Yeah.
That is a seeped its way into the podcast.
Postmodern Marxism.
Yeah.
This is Marxism.
We're leftist now.
I'm not happy about this or not.
No, but Alan is Marxism.
Yeah, he's a fucking cultural Marxist.
You're a cultural Marxist.
You're a cultural Marxist.
You're a cultural Marxist.
You're a cultural Marxist.
Don't you have enough?
Yeah, dude.
Don't you have enough?
No.
We don't have,
don't you have enough podcast studios?
How many podcast studios do you need, Al?
Don't you have enough pockets, Al?
What is it enough?
Okay?
I'm going to have one more pocket.
I'm just letting y'all know.
I'm just letting y'all know.
Y'all keep on with the jokes.
Y'all keep on with the jokes, all right?
Oh, man.
Yo, can we just say, can we just announce on the podcast that Alex got a license to carry a concealed weapon?
Yes, let's go.
Concealed weapons.
Concealed weapons.
I mean, the government thinks I'm safe.
All right, so you can carry a, when does that come in, actually?
He's not getting a gun.
They're still doing more background checks.
It's not going to happen.
You have to write a letter for me.
But don't.
Wait, why is he?
Because he did, like, a good, he does, like, good, like, best men's speeches and all that type of stuff.
I think he's going to write a fire letter.
I'm not right.
I'm not going to write a letter?
You're going to shoot somebody.
He's going to get his assistance to right.
You're going to shoot somebody, and then it's going to be partially my responsibility because I was, you know, the one who got you the gun.
There you go.
Now that's more street credit for you.
Do they know that you arrested in Sweden?
Do they know you arrested in Sweden?
Do they know you're arrested in Sweden?
They do not.
Sure, sure, sure.
But do they know that you spend a month in jail in Sweden?
Do they know that you spend a month?
month in jail in Sweden.
This is going to really fuck my shit.
No, it's not.
They have no clue that your name is.
There's no way they could possibly know that.
You got to blurb that.
You got to blurb two out of three times that I said his name is.
You got to blur all that, bro.
So they're going to give you a fucking gun, nail polish and a gun.
Are you playing up the gay shit when you go in there?
Yo, Big Ann.
Yeah, Big Ann.
Oh, yo, big, yo.
Shut up, Big Ann!
Yo, we got Big.
The only gay drill rapper, yo.
I'm not gay, so don't try me.
You're what?
I said, I'm not gay, so don't try me.
Why did you even say that right now?
We're not even talking about.
Because he's skisgling it a little bit.
You think he could take it?
He looks, you know, he's a size, I sizing him up.
You know, his nickname for you is?
No.
Food bank.
And Big Ant is hungry.
Shout out to the food bank of New York City.
Shout out to Food Bank, NYC, but real big aunt.
We need you to pull up on a pod.
Get a clip of Big Ant up.
We need to watch that one from.
Patreon because Big
Ann is really the truth right now. That one right there. New Yorker
the week. New Yorker the week goes to Big Ant.
New York City Drive right for like
LaGla, boom. What?
Big Aunt, the first New York City gay driver at
Rock LaGloorne. I'm always
valid at any street. I'm walking. You heard what they said.
Uh-huh.
I'm right. I'm sorry. I'm
Muddy. Like, what that means? That's my name.
Like, that's my nigga. Like,
what's all? Okay.
The niggies hilarious.
I got the 380 in my mom.
Perch, Richard, fuck with me.
You're about a duck, bitch.
With the head, you're in his fire, bro.
I don't know.
I love that.
I'm a drill rapper.
Let me see you.
Big hand.
You put that to a fit bridge.
Yeah.
We need you here.
I love this guy, dude.
Oh, big ant.
You know, and then they turn that all.
See, and then they turn that all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now you know how we feel.
The fuck?
Now we know how we feel.
Yeah, what you mean about that?
Yeah, what did you mean by that?
You just back to you because you're white and so hot.
It's the right thing to do.
Boy, you never been talking to a black guy
and you get scared really fast?
No, I was scared that Alex is wearing his pants right now.
I want to know how he got him.
I want to know you and Big Ant got the exact same bottoms on.
I want to know if you've been, I don't know if you've been trained in a little bit.
You can get swaggy.
The Big Ann did he take you shopping?
Yeah, did he take you shopping?
Did he take you shopping or not?
You can't say it.
Is he on your Pinterest, though?
I took big ad shop.
No, right.
Come on, man.
Yeah, right.
You said, I'm a boss of it, all right?
For real.
You can't say that.
Look at Big Ann.
Come on now.
Fly.
Now, Big Inn will take you shopping, bro.
Get what you want, boo.
You take you in a czar.
Get what you want.
Nah, don't do that because...
Wait, is it?
Is it?
Don't do what?
Fuck.
He or she.
That's Big Ann, bro.
What do you mean?
That's a he and he'll clap your cheek.
spit on your back.
You want to get your back spit on?
No, but you know how...
Big ant, we got to clap your cheeks still in your back.
Rest is Glock on your head.
Oh, my God.
You know, look at Big Ant, bro.
A superstar is born.
Gllocky Boone.
Truly, dude.
Truly, superstars born.
Glucky Boolecky poop.
Is that what Big Ann said?
Yo, um...
New York or the week.
That's a good one.
That's New York or the week.
100% big ant.
Listen, also New Yorker of the week.
Diddy.
Because this shit was phenomenal.
How many episodes have y'all seen?
I saw the whole shit.
You saw the whole shit?
Yeah.
Four down, four down?
Yeah, we all saw it.
Holy moly.
Yeah.
It's funny how this motherfucker in the group chat.
Everybody, make sure you watch the ditty shit.
How many episodes do you watch?
I watch all four of them.
No, you did you?
Did you?
His motherfucker's seen one episode.
No.
It's a motherfucker.
What I say in the group chat, I said, make sure you all seen at least one episode.
This shit is amazing.
I think you said at least two.
Then he said, actually you watch two.
You know what, maybe watch three.
Maybe I watched three.
And a bad boy, who's not going to watch four?
Did I say maybe watch three?
Yes.
I got a child.
Okay, I got a child.
Mark's in Chicago, abandoning his children.
Yeah, I was in Chicago.
That's right.
Big Ann.
I was in a shot town.
Clapping cheeks, spinning on your back.
Okay?
Oh, my God.
So you watch one episode?
Yeah.
I watched one episode, yeah.
What's wrong with that?
Why are we shaming me for watching one episode?
He lives in New York.
He's from the streets.
He knows what happened.
You send a mandate.
You know how rarely he sends mandates on pod?
Everybody watched three episodes.
Everyone on the couch.
Yeah, why are you separating the couch, by the way?
Why you're separating the couch?
I'm not taking it.
What is that mean?
What is that mean?
You say everyone on the couch watch at least one episode.
Oh, just because you've got a chair.
I'm trying to get rid of the couch.
I'm trying to get rid of the couch.
No, I'm trying to get rid of the chair, I mean.
I'm trying to get rid of the chair.
This should be all couches only.
Yo, Miles, a way to enjoy the couches.
Yeah, I've been asking for couches for three fucking weeks.
How many people are going to ask for a goddamn couch?
Can we get back to this, though?
Have you guys ever watched anything I've asked in the history of this podcast?
The first time you do it is we didn't ask.
You told us to watch it.
I should have been doing that in the past.
I should have been doing that in the past.
Oh, God, we missed Yellowstone.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
The fucking cultural phenomenon of Karen Kossner as a cowboy.
That shit didn't slap the way you think.
What? Yellowstone? Yeah, I don't hear anybody
talking about. You gave up on it. What's you talking about?
Who gave up on it? Who gave up on it? I've watched
all the other things from Yellowstone
World. I watched 1923. I watched
1948. I've watched all the Yellow Stones.
I don't even know what that is. Yes. The Yellowstone
world is, you know, the Dunton Ranch
has existed before our time.
And I found the story of how it
came to be. You watched
one episode of that shit, too? I watched
Yeah.
No, I was I cleared through those seasons.
I'm just, I'm going back on Stranger Things right now, but back to Diddy.
Stop trying to get off the fucking topic.
Yeah, why are you trying to fucking watch it?
Why are y'all trying to cover me?
Anybody getting off like Diddy?
You guys watched the entire thing.
You guys are both on flights across the country.
Yeah, exactly.
So you have no excuse, okay?
You, you watch it?
Yeah, I was sick.
So I had something to watch.
All right, do you guys want to discuss it or do you want to discuss how many episodes we watch?
What do you guys?
What do you guys think will be the most interesting content for our listeners?
Is how many episodes each of us?
Watts Watts are discussing the actual documentary.
The Worldwide Sensation is number one in 32
countries, according to 50 Cent, who texted me.
Yeah, well, how long do you take
you to get through the four sessions?
Wait, what, what do you mean?
No, I'm just saying.
We were still talking about.
Oh, my, oh, wow, from the top, from the top.
No, no, I'll, I'll bail him out.
Oh, all right, all right.
Don't even bail them out.
I know, we need sound effects.
Joey, right there, we need sound effects.
I needed to know.
I needed to know how many episodes you think it would take Joey
to find one sound effect.
You know what I'm not going to get a single
We're not going to get another couch
I've been asked for another couch for a month
Here we go
We don't even know what that was
Real talk you've been asked for a couch
It's pre-Australia
Right
Son, seasons ago
I've been asking for internet
For the last two months
We finally had internet
There was a woman in a Hillary Clinton suit
Walking around here
I was like the internet
About to get worse
There's no way in hell
That this lady knows how to put the fucking internet
In-air
That was the Wi-Fi lady?
She was just hacking emails dude
No way
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, it was very interesting.
Anyway, so documentary.
I mean, there's so many things that I did not know.
Like what?
Well, the city college thing, I had no idea about it.
Oh, yeah, I had no clue about that.
I'd be honest.
I didn't know about that either.
I knew about that.
I didn't know nine people died.
I thought people just got hurt.
I have no clue about the City College Day.
Why are we making a big deal over the Shine murder?
Well, that's also bad.
That's just one.
Because Shine was awesome.
That's a lot.
Oh, you're talking about the shooting.
Yeah, Sean got to be, you took the fall for it.
Yeah.
That was also more directly Diddy's involvement than the City College thing, allegedly.
I also don't know what is true and what's not.
So I'm just going to throw a million allegedly's out.
What's that allegation?
So did you guys see how many allegedly's Netflix put out?
Every time there was a statement about Diddy, it went to black screen and then writing on the screen.
Beginning and end of every episode, same thing.
Throughout.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't even know if you watched it.
I don't even know who we watched it.
What do you think I meant when I said every episode?
Yeah, both talking about two different things.
Yeah.
You're talking about how Netflix says
Hey, we ask for a comment
And you're talking about at the end
In the beginning of every episode
They said he got convicted
Oh yeah
Yeah, you fucking dumb idiot
Okay, oh wow
This shit is, oh yeah
Al, just relax man
Wow, this is too much
That's too much for your brain now
Your brain can't do too many things in one time
Yo, your nail polish
Pressing that shit looks crazy
Dude, it looks crazy
Too shit coming out of nail polish for wild
Why is it? Come on
All right
Back to City
Okay.
It's fun, though.
City College.
What happened?
Give me the other one, Mark.
Yeah.
Give me the other one.
There you go.
What happened in City College?
Did you not watch any of the fucking episodes?
No.
No, what are your thoughts on it?
Because you said that was the crazy.
No, I didn't think that was the crazy.
I was trying to give clarity to listeners who might not have also watched on the section.
Oh, okay.
Sorry, this is a little disorganized here.
Mark brought a toy.
People still are.
Yeah, no.
This is more important.
We're not sure not to do this podcast with this toy here.
Audio listeners have no idea there's a toy in the room.
And people who didn't watch the doc.
I don't know what the fuck City College is about.
Sorry, audio listen.
No, my bad.
Mark really brought a fire toy.
All right, so Diddy started as a party guy.
He would promote parties.
And then him and Heavy D, who was the biggest rapper,
maybe in the country at the time,
definitely in New York.
Power through that.
Power through.
Had a rapper, like a musician basketball game
at City College in Harlem.
Yeah.
And then they were filled up.
They were at capacity.
It was like $12 to get in,
but so many people tried to bum rush the doors
and they didn't realize the doors don't open out.
You can't bum rush the doors.
Tragically, nine people died.
And then I guess I-
Diddy was like 19.
I'm trying to understand why this is Diddy's fault,
I guess, for not hiring enough security.
Yeah.
And is, like, do you blame him for that?
Or do you blame the people that are pushing into an event
that they don't even have tickets for
that crushed the other human beings right in front of that?
I think they also said he overbooked.
That was the allegation.
He sold more tickets than he should have.
That's what the allegation was.
Well, if you can prove that.
By more than 2000.
If you, that, then that's definitely my ability.
Only $500 spent on crowd control.
Yeah.
Also, this is the first time.
I think they say, like, this is the first time you see him get away with some shit
and just kind of deflect on the narrative and be like, I'm a positive black man
trying to do positive things and they're trying to bring me down, which is kind of his go-to narrative.
Anytime he got in trouble.
I mean, he was doing positive things for the neighborhood.
Yeah, but he would hide behind that.
He'd use that as a shield like, what's his name?
Like, Pablo Escobar did charity.
He still was a drug kingpin killing.
But at this time, he didn't do anything negative just.
No, but this is the first time.
I think they look at that as like,
oh, that's when he realized,
oh, I can get away with something.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, at the end of the first episode,
there's a great thing about, like,
his envy of Tupac.
Yeah.
And I forget exactly which character is saying it,
but he's basically saying,
he's like, here's the thing with Diddy.
It's like,
Diddy is a marketer,
which at its core is a manipulator.
And he has a resentment for talented people
because people like them
without manipulation
and this idea that like Diddy really treated everybody
that was around him as his like wife
and to have that relationship with Biggie
where he's envious of Tupac
because Biggie and Tupac are connecting
obviously they're going to connect more
they're both artists, they're both great at rapping
this is the thing that they've dedicated their lives to
like why would Biggie look up to Diddy over Tupac
it makes no fucking sense right?
So but him being so envious
and so protective and maybe looking at this massive investment
that he just made potentially leaving him
for so many respects more.
And he was trying to sign Pock and Pock was not with it.
Oh, yeah, obviously.
And Tupac was also putting Biggie on game
in terms of the music business, how it operates,
and he should restructure his contract.
So that also was another piece of the puzzle
that got Diddy upset.
Is that episode two?
Yeah, I'm not even lying.
Episode two, they really make it seem like
Diddy's the reason both of them died.
Really?
Yeah.
And again, documentary.
They have their slant.
You can edit.
But, like, they make that shit seem fairly strong.
I will say this.
I don't think, I don't know.
I don't think, I don't think Diddy was involved in Tupac's death.
I think it was a little bit more simple.
It's like Tupac snuffed the, let me just get it out.
Tupac fights a high-ranking Crip.
High-ranking Crip, send some guys to go kill Tupac.
So what they say is that guy was a Southside Crip
who was affiliated with Diddy.
Diddy got cool with the Southside Crips
with somebody high up.
And then that guy had robbed
one of Pock's people, I think, right?
And then Pock's boy that got robbed
is like, yo, that's the motherfucker that robbed me.
So Pock just goes, gets his get back,
but they're like, oh, this is the opportunity.
And then we can use this.
And was fucked up, man.
And weeks before that,
so Kee-Feedee D allegedly says
that he had a conversation with Diddy
and there was either a $2 million,
$1 million.
a million dollar bounty on
Pock and Shook. Did he say, I'll pay
a million dollars you kill Pock and Shug?
So if you know that hit is on the street
already and now he just started a fight with your guy is like,
oh, this is perfect. We can get out, get back and get paid.
Imagine if there wasn't the incentive of making money,
maybe they might not have taking it to that far.
It's a brutal scene, man. They say it. They shot him,
then they just pulled off, watched the AMBA lamps pull up.
And it was just like a fucking brutal scene, man. It was brutal.
Like, it's just heartless.
And then apparently they stood.
did there the whole time.
Yeah, they just watched it.
KVD says, allegedly,
like after the shooting, they was like, yeah,
we just stood and watched the ambulance, take him out.
Well, ambulance, but yeah.
And they were to stay on the corner.
So you think Diddy was involved?
Yes.
You think he was involved in Biggie's death, too?
His involvement in Biggie's death is more so ego.
He's like wanting to show that, hey, we're not scared.
So Biggie was supposed to fly out to London to shoot some shit.
And he was like, nine out.
They were going to do European press.
The first time the bad boy artists was doing the European press.
Biggie was hype.
Biggie didn't want to be in Cali
but Diddy was so upset by
Hit him up so upset by Shug taking shots
at him he was like no we're gonna go
there I'm gonna make you do press
and then the day Biggie's supposed to fly out
Biggie wants the fuck out of Cali he's like this isn't safe
for me everybody's told me I shouldn't be here
Diddy tells the guy that says number two
that he eventually squeezes out of the company his childhood friend
he goes yo Biggie's not going
to L.A. or to London he's going to this
party with me staying in L.A. another day
Diddy thought it was important to say
fuck you to them and throw a party in L.A.
Fuck you to death row. We're going to throw a party in enemy
territory. And that's the party where Biggie gets got it.
So not like he ordered the hit, but because he just wanted
to show that he wasn't afraid to be
in the West Coast. He wasn't pussy. Yeah. That's what
got Biggie. Murder. And then retaliation
obviously for the Pock's shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
Why retaliation for the Pock shit?
Well, people kill Biggie for retaliation for
Pock because they thought Biggie and Puffer behind us.
God. It got it kind of guy. And Puck thought
Biggie and Puff
or Biggie Puffer behind the first shooting.
Especially Puff.
The first time he got shot.
That's where the whole riff started.
Yeah.
Do you remember when they died?
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Could you put it on a scale?
Like, is it the, like, obviously,
rap is different now, but like,
I'm trying to wrap my head around the moment.
Is it the equivalent of, like,
the biggest rappers in America now getting killed?
Abraham Lincoln goes up.
That's the only thing I'll compare it.
Drake, the amount of high
light that was on that it was but tragedy but like tragedy i would i would say i would say
way more no i don't think i like no drake kendrick is different drake kendrick was like excitement
around it there are people like oh we got a beef here we go this was shock yeah this was like sadness
this was like you couldn't believe it like i remember we were i was in middle school so you must
have been really young up yeah yeah yeah you were probably in like third grade or something like
But I still remember, yeah.
But it was just like, yeah, you just couldn't believe that this was real.
Also, at the end of the day, we're like kids and, like, we're like derivative from the street, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're in New York and we see things happen, but it's not written, nothing really is going to come of it, right?
These guys are in MTV with Carson Daley, we got painted nails.
Like, it's not, it's not real.
Two box in fucking movies that we would go watch.
It's not real.
Yeah.
And then it got very real.
We would be playing around, like, and be like, oh, West Coast, East Coast.
like I was fighting with one another type of shit
like yeah it was a joke to us right
it was wrestling yeah
it was wrestling and it was cool to have
like you had like an identity in it as a kid
it's crazy how like people get wrapped up in the cult
just because we're from New York we're like
man fuck Tupac
he rhymes Hennessy with enemy
every song you know what I'm just
finding these reasons not to like Tupac
but like I like Tupac I thought the music was great
yeah yeah so
yeah it was very weird time
And again, edits are edits, but they really put this shit on Biggie, I mean, on Diddy.
Like, Diddy was the guy, it was the catalyst for this whole thing and poured a lot of gas on everything.
And Mayor, man, allegedly put a hit out on Pock and Shug.
And then he only paid $500,000 because he's like, well, you only killed Pop.
That's far.
I mean, it's tragic, obviously.
But like, this guy's so, such a lunatic that he would do something like that.
Like, what I thought was crazy about it was the, I never knew that he, I knew he, I knew he,
he was from Mount Vernon, but I
never knew that, like, his dad
was a hustler.
Yeah.
So, I never knew that.
And, like, he's proud of that shit.
Yeah. Yeah, you know, but
it's kind of, and who got, like, killed.
But the way that they frame it,
that he was trying to
be this hustler, because I spoke
in other people who remain nameless, whenever
they've talked about him, they've always said
this about, dude. Like, he's always kept, like,
one foot in the streets.
I go, what do you mean by that? Like,
he's like yeah like he's always he's still connected with the street shit and i'm like i thought
this guy's from like mount vernon like i never connected him with streets at all right and um but seeing
that that was the aspiration and like seeing everything as a function of power like him trying to
fuck the hottest rapper's girl it's not even because he likes a girl no it's just it's this
this expression of power yeah i fuck the hottest rapper's girl yeah i'm that powerful and i think
that's why he was doing the gay shit.
Like, sex just became a function of power.
Yeah.
So it's like, what is more powerful
than just fucking a dude?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
I don't even know if that sentence makes sense.
No, no, no, no, but what is a greater expression?
What is a greater expression of how powerful you are,
a straight guy, right?
He's willing to fuck you.
Yeah.
Simply because what you have,
spit on your back.
Well, also, a lot of times what one guy was saying
in the last episode is like,
he'll drug you without you.
even realizing it.
Right.
And they'll just wake up and be like,
what's going on?
I'm sore,
what the fuck happened.
And it's just like,
I think there's also,
you hear this with sexual assault
rape type of shit,
there's power dynamics involved in that.
I would say that too
if I was a guy
who got fucked by doing.
I would say I got drug too.
Guys, I have a live stand-up show announced.
Great Outdoors Comedy Festival
in Halifax.
I've never even toured in Halifax.
And I'm coming out there.
We got Mark Gagnon come with me.
Cam Patterson is coming.
Lucas Zelnick is coming.
We're going to put a hell of a fucking
the show on out there in Halifax, Nova Scotia.
The pre-sale is tomorrow.
The code is Andrew.
It's going to be August 8th.
That's the show.
Halifax, you guys already know.
We're coming through, and we're going to light that shit on fire.
I cannot wait to see you guys there, August in Nova Scotia, as we all dreamed it.
Also, Rhode Island Comedy Festival coming there, March 28th.
You can get tickets for all these things at the Andrewsholtz.com.
Peace.
Guys, I am done touring for the year 2025.
Thank you guys so much.
This is the biggest year we've ever had.
Next year, going to be even bigger.
I'm so fucking excited.
We start off.
It's going to be a lot of shows.
Maybe too many.
I might kill myself.
So we're trying to still work out some schedule stuff.
But January 8 through 10th, I'm in Pittsburgh.
January 15th through 17th.
I'm in Phoenix, Arizona.
January 23rd, my favorite theater I've ever done,
the only theater I've ever done until after this.
But I'm at the Wilbur.
Tickets are almost sold out for that shows to hurry up and buy.
We added a show in Seattle.
with the Neptune Theater, January 30th, January 31st, Revolution Hall in Portland.
February, we're gone to New Zealand and Australia.
I cannot wait.
We've added some shows there.
And then obviously, Radio City, keep buying tickets.
I love seeing that you guys are still copping.
That's April 18th, Chicago Theater.
Tickets are running out, April 24th.
All those dates and more at AlcocashSting.com.
I love y'all so much.
Thank you, guys.
What's up, people?
Mark Gagdon here.
I just want to say thank you to everyone in Chicago that came out to the shows.
It was fantastic.
The amount of people that asked to suck my dick is getting out of hand.
I literally just dudes coming up to be like, hey, dude,
oh gosh, I said, I had a second.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
This is not that kind of meeting greet, all right?
Just come out and take a pick, say what's up.
People have asked me why I keep trying to get them to suck your dick.
It's become very confusing.
You don't have to do that, all right?
All you got to do is buy a ticket.
Come to the show, and I'm going to Hoboken on December 12th.
I'm also doing my monthly show in the East Village at Mary Lou on December 16th.
It's the best lineup in the city, all the best comics.
I'll be there working out some new stuff.
And then at the New Year, Salt Lake City.
and then also
where you do a Salt Lake City
wise guys
fun fucking club dude go see him
and then Washington DC
and then Charlotte North Carolina
those are going to be announced any minute now
all right you're on the edge of your seats
I know you are man we said that last week dog
just wait any minute now it's coming
thank you guys so much see you there
that's the thing that this generation that's watching right now
they don't understand it because the young people
grew up with Spotify artists and TikTok artists
and like pro tools and you make your own beat
and you just put it out.
You couldn't even record anything
without a professional studio back in the day.
Consider that.
You couldn't even speak into a microphone
and record it with a beat without a studio.
So having, they had so much power,
so much access to people's dreams.
And I think that Diddy's, like, lust for power
is the reason why he didn't try to be a...
He eventually was an artist a little bit.
But initially, remember when they show him dancing
and he was trying to be a dancer
and he was in the music videos.
and then he pivots.
He makes this hard pivot
to be like Andre Harrell's side guy,
like his right hand man.
And to me what that says is,
is Diddy has this like undying thirst for power
and he goes, ooh, the power is actually there.
It's not in the artists.
These artists don't have control
when they put an album, when they get studio time,
what songs they get, when they go on tour.
It's that guy over there that tells them what to do
and they're all kissing that motherfucker's ass.
Fuck dance in the videos.
I want to be that guy.
but this is where the power never stops when it's insatiable,
then it seems like he gets jealous of the artists.
Now, I want to be the A&R guy.
Of course.
And I want to be the biggest artist.
And I'm going to have all these people write raps for me.
And I'm going to make sure my artists never get bigger than me on my songs.
Dog, there was a thing.
I think this was after Biggie died.
You know, Puffy's saying this is my brother, is my best friend.
He tells the number two at his company,
Biggie's supposed to get a Rolling Stone cover.
He says, no, fuck that.
I need to promote the No Way Out album.
So I'm getting Rolling Stone.
Make sure they put me on the cover.
Box Biggie out after his death of a Rolling Stone cover, and then he took it.
That's fucked up.
And then made Biggie pay for the funeral.
Yeah, the funeral shit is, I heard that one.
That's fucking crazy.
He would charge you for, like, he would take money out of your deal for recording time in his studio.
So he would just find a way to never pay anybody.
That's what they all do, though.
Yeah.
But like he would appear in the music video and then pay himself a talent for being in the video.
So here's something to that.
Here's something to that.
there's that line that's like
that happened
I think it was at the source awards or something like that
I don't know if it was
Shugger saying yeah come to death row
If you don't want your producer all up in the video
etc
Diddy was bigger than his artist
You want him in the video
Not at that point
He wasn't bigger than Biggie in 95
He wasn't he wasn't bigger than Craig Mack
flavor in your ear
You think?
It's hard to think but try to go back
like if diddy wasn't next to biggie he big he would have still been that guy he had so much
swag to him biggie might have marketed biggie better yeah but seeing puffy in a video didn't
mean shit yeah let me clarify at a certain point in time like when puffy first breaks off and does
bad boy nobody knows who biggie is puffy puts biggie on yeah right so like he is effectively
a much more powerful person in the industry and much more known person in the industry so
him co-signing Biggie is massive for Biggie.
So being all up in the video, I don't know about that.
One point. Hold on.
How can anybody know who Biggie is?
He got fired from Uptown Records at that point.
Yeah.
And Andre Hairel said, I'll let you keep Biggie.
Yeah, I remember.
But he got fired from, he was the king.
He was, Andre Harrell's the kingmaker.
He's the number two.
Then he gets fired and he got one artist.
So I don't think he's got heat like that.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
He had the parties.
This is where I think a lot of people don't realize.
like Andre Harrell was selling lifestyle that was what Uptown doing and then Diddy did that better than anybody right and it was Diddy presents this so he owned the culture and owning the culture is how you can break artists it's how you can control it's another power flex like I can't get if you piss off Diddy you're not going to be able to go to his parties and that's where everybody goes etc yeah so like when he broke off from Uptown what he didn't have is the funding of Uptown but what he still had is the culture and the
cache. And then when he connects with, who is it, Clive Davis?
So he gets to Clive Davis. Now all of a sudden he has the money.
So he already has the culture. He has the parties. He has the places people want to be.
He has the places to break the records to the people who are going to listen to them.
Why does he need Andre? And clearly he doesn't because he takes Biggie and they go fucking crazy.
Yeah, he got Clive after Hunter Firing. But yeah, I see your point. I still think to most
record buying audience, which is kids in suburbs like me, Biggie was a guy you knew of.
I didn't know who the fuck puffed daddy was until
I don't even think they were the ones
buying the records initially
I think suburban whites buying records
It comes later
I think it's when it's like completely MTVified
When the EOM TV wraps like really kind of takes over
I think initially
I don't think like
I don't think hip hop was that big
I think NWA makes it fucking explode
It's like loud, it's rebellious
But like before that kind of niche
It was this like new like weird type of music
And like white people were like
That's fair
but this is six, seven years after NWA.
So rap is out there.
Maybe not gangster rap, but rap is a thing.
No, no, of course.
Of course rap is a thing.
There's no question.
But it's not what we know it as now.
But did he have to charge to be in his own artist video?
I guess that's the thing where it's like...
I don't think you should, but what all these fucking...
I mean, how these labels make money is they do this kind of like Don King type shit.
Where like you get charged for every single fucking towel.
I think the thing also is, and you just see this...
This is where the editing is like, okay, it could be edited,
but the recurring themes of a lot of this.
Yeah.
Everybody's...
Like, I didn't get the money from Diddy.
Yeah.
I was supposed to have 25% of bad boy.
He shows up with a bat and says, hey, man, I need you to sign this over.
I'll give it back to you.
I just need to do this deal.
Never gives it back.
That guy, that producer, I'll pay $250,000.
And then they play voicemails of him being like, yo, man, I'm going to get it to you.
I just got to handle this thing.
Hey, man.
Some shit came up.
Hey, man.
And then when the guy gets mad, he's like, I don't like your energy, dude.
Why are you acting like this?
I mean, yeah, the tricky thing is that, like, once you know you can fuck people over and you're like a maniacal sociopath like him,
that's just power hungry.
You just go,
all right, I just won't pay you.
And I think that's the point
they try to make with City College,
whether it's true or not,
is this is when the sociopath realizes,
I can get away with anything.
Nine people died and I come out looking good?
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
It gets more famous.
Yeah.
I got more famous.
I'm going to die now.
Yeah.
Now I can do whatever I want.
That's the thing that I think
this generation really doesn't understand,
and I think it's like,
I don't think they really understand
how important the gatekeepers were
to the music industry.
Yeah.
And even after,
after he left Uptown, he was massively powerful.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
Massively powerful.
Yeah.
Because think of the artists that he broke.
Like, he breaks marriage at blotch.
Right?
Like, he breaks Jodicy, yeah.
So all these other people, what's that?
112, Mace.
But did those come with Bad Boy?
I think they're later, right?
Yeah, later.
Yeah.
But it's still him breaking.
Of course.
Just uptown, he's still the guy.
I'm like, just because he's not attached to Uptown
doesn't mean he's not massively powerful, right?
Because at that moment,
the only two ways, and they say in the documentary,
the only two ways you can make, like,
legacy money in hip hop is through
Russell Simmons or Andre Horell.
Think about that level
of power. Yeah. What if the
only way to get on TV was between
two channels? Yeah.
Think about how much power those two people
were getting to that point, by the way.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Was just getting back
to what it used to be because MTV and
BET was it. That was it. Yeah. If you
wanted to see music, you had to turn on one of those two
channel. You're 100% right.
I was no YouTube, there was nothing.
And we would flip back and forth from, what is it,
TRL and then 106 in part.
Yeah.
And we watched 30 seconds of a music video.
Hit me baby one more time.
And to make it fit the half hour segment or whatever it was,
we couldn't even watch the whole music.
Wow.
And we were complaining then about attention spans being too short.
There's this guy named like Douglas,
Adams? He wrote The Hitchhiker's Guy to forget.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Anyway, there was something in it
that he said, like the different stages of life, I'm going to fuck this up.
Maybe you can bring this up. But because I was doing just some kind of like reflection,
like what's happening in culture? And I'm like, what the hell is going on? It was so normal
back that day and things are so extreme and crazy right now. And he had said that like this
is the life cycle. It's like when you're young, you're not really paying attention
in things around you. You get into like your 20s.
in early 30s and you're like, this is how things should be, this is perfect, there's all the
opportunity, then you get in your 40s and you go, things were so much better back in the day,
these things are so crazy right now.
Because you were a part of the change.
Yes, exactly.
Now, ours is maybe the most drastic in history because we live pre-internet and post-internet.
Yeah, pre-A-I, post-A-I.
It's insane, like especially our age because old people live pre-internet and with internet,
but they don't really use the internet.
Yeah.
They just have, like, bigger font on their phone.
right like that's it that's an old people's change yeah but we actually use it and we'll actually
kind of use AI will admit but like our generation is yeah it's fun it's like stone age to
right it's crazy what we and kind of yes things are crazy on the internet and yes we see all this
kind of wild stuff and conspiracy everything we're handling it pretty fucking well all things
considered all things considered how in important caveat but yeah you can make a video online
with all of us having
an orgy with each other
that is indistinguishable
from your regular life.
No, but, like, think about that.
Don't put me in that.
I know, we're just a brilliant idiots
and call him gay for like an hour and a half.
It's a baby oil.
But, but yeah, I don't know.
I'm handling it, okay.
And it's too easy to do that.
Now one of the fans is going to actually make the orgy video.
You, run it!
Run it! Run it!
Top me.
Top me.
I saw an article that watching fucked up videos online can actually give you PTSD.
Hold on one second.
I've come with a set of rules to describe our reactions to technology.
Anything is the world when you were born is normal and ordinary and is just natural part of the way the world works.
Anything that is invented between when you're 15 and 35 is new and exciting and revolutionary
and you can probably get a career in it.
anything invented after 35 is against the natural order of things.
I mean, tell me that isn't...
Yeah, it's brilliant.
Brilliant.
I'm shocked that you let him get through that whole quote without calling him gay or something.
That was, like, really respectful.
Well, you'd be calling Douglas.
Yeah.
You know, it's what Douglas said.
I ain't going to put that on Big Doug.
Big Doug, big Doug.
You put a working...
No, I'm getting to that point.
I can feel it.
I'll listen to a new song.
I'm like, no, this sucks.
Like, it's getting closer.
Every year.
Dude, I said this nigga, you 19.
No, no, no, he's old, dude.
Are you 30 yet?
How old are you?
Almost, almost.
You're not even 30 yet.
I'll be 30 in a few months.
You're 29 years old?
29, bro.
Damn.
The right side of 20.
You ain't aging good, so.
I know. I'm sorry, but you're not, bro.
I think I'm going to look like this for a while.
I think I'm pickled.
29.
And you're wearing a beanie inside.
What does that mean?
The Al's wearing one, too.
I was like, fuck this.
No, Al needs it.
I get that.
Fuck you.
Fuck everybody.
Al looks like Tim can't swim in a pool.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's go.
No, that's going to get it.
Nobody knows.
You know what Tim Poole is?
Oh.
You got to explain it.
You just got so defensive a joke was coming at you.
You don't give that to him.
You know who Tim Poole is?
I do know who Tim Poole is.
Okay, there we go.
But you had to explain it.
I did have to explain it.
Yeah, come on. I agree with you on that.
A lot of words. But it was a lot of words. It was a lot of words.
So many words.
So many words. Can we get back to Diddy, dude?
Was there anything that surprised you guys in the doctor?
I thought it was going to be more gay stuff. Talk to me.
It was very little gay stuff.
Yeah, because you don't really know Diddy.
I don't know nothing. Yeah. And everyone's like, dude, Dittie's Epstein.
And I was like, dude, this is going to be fucking crazy.
And then they were like, well, you're like, you know, probably kill some people and beat some women.
And I was like, yeah, all right.
But this is the thing, no guy wants to talk about getting butt fuck.
So it's like, one guy didn't, Andrew was like, no, he's lying.
That's what I'm saying.
That's why nobody wants to come up.
He's like, yo, I got to admit this embarrassing shit and so people ain't going to call me a liar.
Like, that sucks.
Yeah, that's a good point.
But multiple people admitted to it, his co-founder, he says he got molested.
He got tried, or did he get actually?
No, but he says throughout his time there, he got sexually assaulted a couple of
Just my butt during Brilliant Idiots.
I, like, did it eat deep scratch in my butt?
Yeah. Before we started.
Before we started recording Flagrant, I went to the bathroom because I was like, I got to check on something.
And I sat down without pooping, and I wiped, and there was a full, I think I might have forgot to wipe.
Before we did Brilliant Idiot.
So I did a whole pod with full shit on my ass after a shit, okay?
That's how I know that guy wanted to get buffed.
Okay, no.
Because that's what guy's butts look like.
That's what guy's butts look like
and Diddy's not sticking his dick in that doo-doo
Oh, that's yours.
You have clean asses.
Diddy might like a little dirty ass.
Yeah.
He got off on some weird shit, yo.
Can I make a point, though?
This is an interesting thing.
This is where black people using
the little washcloth
in the shower hurts you.
No.
Because it's always a clean ass to fucking.
You guys always got a clean ass to fucking.
You knew when you went to a Diddy party.
Diddy knew if he chose a black guy.
He's like, yeah, that ass is clean.
You don't think about the
downsides of hygiene.
You don't think about it.
With a white guy,
you know I'm only washing
to my abdomen.
You don't know what's below.
You don't know us below.
So if you're going to try
to take this ass, good luck.
Which race is the cleanest ass,
you think?
Probably black, right?
Oh, without it doubt.
Yeah, what happens?
Because I don't even know if they shit, really.
I think it might be different.
Also, America, y'all don't use the bidet like that.
Al does, but it's not a general bidet thing.
Yeah, y'all are a washcloth culture,
so I can see you guys have a cleanest ass.
Yeah, so probably Asian.
Middle Eastern, because they got infrastructure for bidets.
They all got badeas.
Yeah, they wash all the top.
No, no, no.
They wash before they pray and shit.
They don't wash with soap.
They just rinse.
Yeah.
It's better than you.
You don't do shit.
I don't know if it's better.
They wash their feet.
I don't know.
When it's raining outside, did I wash?
Smell your finger right now.
Oh, I guess I'm clean.
I've counted that before.
No.
If you don't use soap, you'll wash.
Smell your finger right.
Which one?
Oh!
Oh, God, I know that.
It was a different finger and it was still disgusting.
That was what he was digging with.
I was digging.
I was digging.
Oh, God, dude.
Come on.
It makes me dry here, bro.
Stop being last.
Yo, why's that nasty?
This is going to be in the dock, bro.
Why is that nasty?
Why is that nasty?
I keep my nails low.
So I don't know.
Say again?
He was a vented illness, bro.
That was good.
I think not as good.
He's a lot of you, dude.
He's a lot of you, dude.
The bar is so low for him.
He just connected two things.
I was fired.
I made a sentence.
I was fire.
I made a whole sentence.
He's a hit.
That was good.
You liked it.
And then the Cassie shit was crazy.
Cassie shit, I didn't realize all that.
We didn't know that that happened with Cassie?
No.
Also, I thought, did he allegedly,
this is going to sound bad.
Was he involved in Kim Porter's?
On timely demise?
That's what a lot of people think.
Yeah, they didn't cover it here.
And yeah, I don't know about that.
You know, it was more balanced than I thought it would be with the Cassie stuff.
Like, they say he groomed her and all that, but then they'll say, like, what?
They'll show, like, emails of Cassie sending things that could be interpreted as, like, it was consensual or she was into it or whatever.
And a lot of people say, like, she's a, she tried to leave and got the shit kicked out of her once.
Yeah, the physical violence is disgusting.
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The stud, the bull that they brought through.
Yeah.
That was doing all the...
the freakiness with Cassie.
He was like, yeah, at one point...
The Punisher?
Yeah, I don't know if it was him.
I think it was a different one.
He was like, yeah, after every session, they collected my nut.
Yeah.
And they were collected in a cup.
And then he was like, this went on for months at a time.
And so one day, I was like, why are you guys collecting my nut?
And he was like, oh, I just like to see her play with it.
What's wrong with that?
Did he goes, what's wrong with that?
He said that?
Yeah.
And he was like, after that, they never asked again.
But I was like, bro, they've been collecting your nut.
for four months and he just makes her play with it on a random day like a yo-yo you know how big a
freak did he is that's the one guy who got paid everybody else he wouldn't pay oh wow but he needed
that get back dude i need you come back i need you to come back i need your comeback really
bro but collecting in a cub is just hilarious to me that he's bringing this guy in it's like all right
but you got a nut in the in the receptacle and then we're going to use it for later and he was like
saving it they'd like put in the fridge and mark it and put the date on it no
No, they wouldn't.
I mean, I presume I couldn't help you out with it.
It's my life last year.
I mean, you don't want to get it mixed up.
You know what I mean?
You probably got other samples in there.
Oh, my God.
He's like, yeah, if we want to play it with the right one.
Yeah, I mean, like, what do we do?
Like, if we can find out that you have a genetic disposition to this behavior,
what do we do with them?
I don't think this is nature as much as nurture.
I think this develops over time.
Like you said, the power thing.
I think it's nature.
I think you're born with it.
I think it's nature.
Who do he learn his shit from?
Yeah, I think it's...
Well, I believe what he was saying earlier,
which is, like, a power thing.
Like, I'm just controlling this whole situation.
But I think you're born with that.
Like, sociopathic.
Yeah, you have a sociopathy,
and maybe there obviously are, like, nurturing elements.
Yeah, yeah.
Now, this is, like, push you towards that.
But, like, you have to, on some level
just not have any care for the people around you.
Yeah.
And just this insatiable desire to, you know,
it's not even be loved or appreciated.
He likes being,
the figure, but it's more like
the power that being loved
and appreciated
gives him.
Because if it was just be love and appreciate, he would just be
an artist. They get loved and appreciated
and a story. Nah.
He needs to tell motherfuckers what to do.
He gets off on that shit. That infamous
phone call. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I think that was...
That was built up, I think.
After rewatching it, it was like, yeah, I don't even
think there was anyone on the phone.
No. You know how I know there was?
Because he slams it, he screams, I'm a savage, whatever.
He notices the phone is off of the thing, and he corrects it.
He's like, uh-oh, I hope they didn't hear that.
There's a moment where he's a little concerned.
But yeah, I don't know.
This just feels like a little performative to me, but I don't know.
But it was because this was being shot from making of the band,
so he probably was turning it up a little bit.
Oh, yeah.
And also, I think this is when he was using drugs.
He started using drugs heavily in, like, what, 2011 or seven or something like that?
I think he was always using drugs, to be honest with you.
His boy said he wouldn't even drink before.
And then at some point, he just went all the way with it.
Hmm.
Maybe.
I have a hard time believing that a guy that aspires to be a gangster does not consume alcohol or marijuana.
I have a hard time.
Really?
Yeah.
I think the opposite.
Yeah, I think so.
He's a control freak.
He loves control.
Yeah.
And alcohol and drugs take you out of control.
Exactly.
So he's like constantly in control until he's.
He's realizing how fun Molly is.
And he's like, oh, I don't try a little bit.
Yeah.
And then gets on a wave.
I can see that.
That was like he would work for like 14 days straight.
And his whole thing on all his IG lives that they're playing is how hard he works, how nonstop he goes.
I'm doing X, Y, Z.
You're doing some kind of uppers to keep that pace up.
Yeah.
And ride that way, if you would call it.
And like, and not to compare them, the two of them, but it's like Trump also likes to be like and control.
And he's a no alcohol, no drug guy also.
That's very interesting.
And he also doesn't pay people when he.
Maybe we've got to worry about these sober motherfuckers.
Oh, yeah.
If somebody's sober, I don't trust you.
I'd do shrimps.
Yeah.
You need something, something.
Like, something, something, yeah.
If you sober, sober, I don't trust you.
Oh, man.
You got to drink or something.
I don't know.
Do you look at everybody who's with Diddy in a video,
like some rapper that's famous, I'm not even want to name names,
but they're next to Diddy, and it's like, you got to know something.
So I thought about this.
because like
you know
there's one way of looking at this
and going
why are all the people
that are in this documentary
that they're doing 30 years later
why are you guys speaking up now
where were you for the last 30 years
I don't think we can make
these people heroes in the documentary
obviously like the women that like
were sexually abused assaulted
like you know they're terrified
they're trying to speak up
and nobody wants to take their case
yeah it's very different
but like none of these people
speaking up now are heroes
but they did
they did the right thing
in that if the things that they're saying are true
even if it's 30 years later
saying what happened is the right thing to do
it doesn't make you a hero
but it's better than not saying it's still brave
and it's still brave because there's motherfuckers
that don't want to see that you go down
he also destroys you he takes everything
he takes your credibility you can't get a job
he's the kind of guy who fucking ruins you
also he allegedly kills people
yeah so it's like I'm in this industry
he knows where I live I'm not going to say shit
He's getting away with all this stuff.
So it is, I completely understand why you're not saying anything.
Male, female, whatever, it doesn't matter.
I completely get why you're not saying anything.
I'm actually asking famous rappers who are with Diddy.
And everybody, I think I heard whispers.
We all see some crazy shit.
And it's like, oh, you're still next to him.
Do I look at you?
What's the empathetic way of looking at that guy?
Because there's a part of me that's judgmental,
but it's easy to judge from here, from the couch.
But the part of me that's judgmental is like,
you had to know something.
And you're right there.
So what I would ask you is how bad is Diddy compared to the dudes that they grew up with that might be involved in criminal shit?
I would think worse.
Because the lines he's pushing are like, yo, this is crazy.
Maybe depending on how you grew up.
But like if you grew up in the hood and like you're affiliated with the gang and like, you know, happy.
He's like, I'm going to blow some guy's car and you go, well, yeah, that tracks.
You're the gangster.
And I grew up around gangsters and they would kill people and, you know, sell drugs and shoot at that.
Also, I don't think Diddy went around saying, hey, I just beat up Cassie and did this and did that.
Right.
It's all rumor shit.
Like, we all heard the rumors about the shit, but just being out at a fucking brunch party with Diddy doesn't necessarily mean you're going to see all the shit that he's up to.
Maybe you're right.
I just, I think, well, from my understanding, some of the shit was public.
He was, like, he had his first wife just fucking punch her in the face in public or whatever out on the street.
And maybe you're right that these guys.
That wasn't public like he was indicted for it.
That's a buddy of him who was with him.
He was talking on the docs saying that that thing happened.
Look, I'm not convinced in my position, but I'm going to push back.
So the Shine thing.
There's like so many things that you're like, yo, this guy, there's some weird shit going on with this guy.
Yeah, but with Shine, there was enough like bloodiness, yeah, plausible deniability where it's like, hey, maybe it could have been Shined.
They both had their guns out.
They both shot the guns.
So it's like, we really don't know who really shot him.
That's the other thing.
It's very possible to shine did do it.
Yeah, so, but again, the point is that, like, at this time in hip hop, now it's different, it's all theater kids, but at this point in hip hop, like, if the dudes rapping weren't real, their crew was real, and the money backing a lot of these hip hop labels was drug money.
So it's like, who, if you were to get signed to someone in New York, how are you not going to be affiliated? Name the label. It's not affiliated. Like, just name it.
I'm telling you, it went back and forth.
Jay got his money in the shit.
What is it?
Biggs put the money up for rock, right?
And that's drug money.
So you're connected with drug money
and nefarious actors, no matter how you do it.
Maybe Def Jam towards the end
had gotten really cleaned up.
But like, what was the murder ink?
You know, they had tough guys there.
Even with Def Jam, they were just the label that's signed,
but they know all the artists was up to fuck shit.
Hell yeah.
They were aware of shit.
That's fair.
I just want to have the conversation because it does, it didn't cross my mind.
I didn't have a hard position, but I was like, uh, I just think when you see foul shit
with regularity, you become numb to it, you know, and in retrospect, you look back and you're
like, oh my God, that's a fucking evil-ass dude.
Yeah.
But also, like, just talking to 50 from, you know, what life was like in New York between
the gangs at that time, like, he told me, like, some of these guys are like real-life
schizophrenic serial killers.
like he would go meet with some of these dudes in jail
because you know he does like life right stuff for all these shows
and they would say shit like yo man I'm out in 20 days
and he'd be like what?
He's like yeah man I can't wait man I'm out in 20 days
and 50 would be like is he really getting out in 20 days
like this guy's spending the rest of his life here
and he'd like oh these guys are completely crazy
and either they lost it before or all the shit they went through
made them lose it yeah or they're already yeah
but like there's actually like the trauma I don't think goes away
I mean like you kill people in the streets like that affects your brain and every day you're thinking that retaliation is coming you're paranoid everywhere you go to your point that girl Capricorn Clark was like I grew up with a mom that was I forget how she was like Diddy but she was a lot like Diddy so I just knew how to navigate that and I'm going to deal with that so that's why I could be his assistant so well so a lot of these guys probably like yeah I know how to deal with this trauma exactly and also let's take Fabulous for example like Fab would get money from doing ads for Sarac but Diddy would confront him be like yo why we
have a party like what's up with you homie is like
so he was keeping his distance but he also know
how to play the game's like hey I'm gonna get my check over here
so it's like I think there was a lot of people
navigating like that yeah
but what did he eventually
actually go to prison for
do you remember what the actual charges
violations of the man act they said this this is the thing
that's the beginning and the end of every episode violations
the man act and I think prostitution
yeah I think that is the man act
like hey man the last episode
where was that guy from that juror
because if he's Indian that's a bad
fucking look for us.
He's like, he said, they're asking the jurors, two jurors are willing to come forward,
and one of them has an accident.
I can't tell, it might be Indian, but he's like, yeah, I don't know,
it just seemed like him and Cassie, it was just a hot and cold relationship.
You know what I mean?
They just loved each other.
You know, you're seeing these sex messages, I don't know,
just sell, sure, it's not consensual, but then, you know, he's beating her up with that
and she said she loves them.
Sometimes the internet has a hard time understanding unconventional relationship.
Okay, and they jump to conclusions about certain things.
Okay, ditty, Cassie, other people, maybe on this podcast.
You don't know anything.
Dude, jury selection must be fired.
Sorry, sorry, exactly.
You're Cassie.
You are 100% Cassie.
Oh, man.
I will say the hotel room you're getting dragged through is much more expensive than a fucking motel six or whatever she was getting rid through.
So that was crazy.
You got her intercontinental.
Yeah.
Come on, dude.
You're going to take a place where guys are also beating their wives,
so it doesn't seem that.
So it blends in with the sound.
Exactly.
Also, I heard he would pay for the floor he's on above him and below.
You can't rent out the three floors or the four seasons, but you can do that, you know.
Damn.
Yeah.
Man, when I'm watching that video, every time I'm like, take the stairs, dude.
What are you doing, taking the elevator?
Yeah, it's like a horror movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leave the shoes.
You don't need your shoes.
Run.
Yeah.
And then he's just lurking in the towel.
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And he's out in a few months.
Dude, I thought about that.
That's the crazy shit.
I know.
So that's the power of the documentary, right?
Because what did he wants, and he says it in the beginning of it,
he's talking about losing the court of public opinion.
Yeah.
And he says some stuff like, you know, we got to get some propaganda going or whatever.
And what he's saying is actually not.
it's not wrong.
He's going, hey, you guys are, to his lawyers,
you guys are going to CNN talking shit about me,
but TikTok and social media is where the conversation is about me
and we lost that, as he should lose that, right?
And he's telling him it's like,
you guys got to do something about this.
And I think that the beginning is interpreted like he's saying,
hey, we've got to lie and trick and do these things,
which he probably is saying 100%.
But I think at that point in the case,
he thought he's getting off.
And all of us thought he was doing 40 years.
Think about when this case first started.
We thought he was locked up 20, 40 years.
The guy gets 50 months.
He's going to be out of jail in two and a half years.
Like he'll be on the street soon.
He can watch this doc while it's still trending.
Think about that.
Right?
Yeah.
That's why allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.
There's no, allegedly.
But think about this.
So I think what he's doing is going, I still want to be Diddy.
and I can't be Diddy
if the perception of me
is a certain way.
The doc is way more damaging
than jail.
Yep.
Bingo.
Jail?
I honestly think.
I know it sounds crazy,
but if it was just the jail,
there are people that would go,
oh, Cassie was into it,
and yes, you should never put your hands on a wound,
but she was down to do these parties
and that kind of stuff like that.
This is bullshit,
and he might have a way to come back.
I don't know if anybody can recover from this.
Yeah.
He got to go to,
Bali with Russell Simmons.
He got a point of foreign country
that he could just meditate at.
Yeah. Because I don't know, you can't
walk the street to New York anymore after this.
You know, it's crazy. I think he can flip it.
I think he's...
And they bring this up, too, in the fourth episode.
By the end of the trial,
PR was largely on Diddy's side.
They got...
Really? Do you remember all this stuff? Like, he was paying a lot
of PR. He was paying people like $25
just to wear free ditty shirts outside the trial.
I saw it look like. I drove by.
saw them like that's crazy but he's still a billionaire he's not broke we don't this probably
this is hurt these these trials cost so much money and also when you're in jail your money
goes away yeah and like and bills don't stop but all his uh sarac got taken from him but but he
won that lawsuit remember he won the uh they didn't say how much they settled for I thought it was
like in the bees I thought it was no I don't think it was that crazy I would look it's what
Diageo or something like that yeah yeah Diageo yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Yeah. I don't think it was that crazy because Diageo has heavy pockets.
They can be like, yeah, let's just go to trial.
But I thought, you don't have it. I would, you can't last.
I would look that up. But I, and this could be like internet bullshit, but there was like a clause in the contract.
Like if he, if he was a criminally indicted for anything that could waive, whatever, I don't know.
Or convicted, not indicted. Yeah.
Crazy thing about this doc and about all docs is like, it's all in the edit.
because imagine this.
Yeah.
They use footage that he was going to use
to make himself look good.
They used the same fucking footage
to make them look like a fucking savage.
And I'm like, it's all in the fucking edit.
And what can you really believe
when it comes to the docs at the same time?
Yeah.
I've learned this.
It's not so in the end.
It's all in the end, baby.
Docs are terrifying.
This is why I think you're doing the PR thing.
And again, maybe this Netflix thing changes everything.
But even as this trial is going on,
he's getting so much
fucking love in the streets.
Stop.
What streets?
Over and over.
Oh, you're talking about
in the dock.
Like in the public
when he's like riding his bike,
not the street like Donald Harley.
Yeah, but this is before
Yeah, this was earlier.
Yeah, this was before he was guilty.
It's like,
it was just the Cassie tape.
We didn't know anything from trial yet.
Say that sentence again.
I understand.
But if you didn't see the Cassie tape,
you just still love Diddy.
Who didn't see that?
There are some people that didn't.
Apparently 12.
jurors. Also, Diddy is so famous.
No, this is what they did, though, smart. It's not about the, he
can't, he's not on trial for abuse.
Sure, he abused her, but that's what they did.
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that was one of the questions,
have you seen that tape?
No, the girl, the juror says, the tape
was damning. The tape let me know he
wasn't a good guy, but
that's not what he was on trial for. You can't use it.
It's in his inadmissible evidence.
She said, I saw it, and I know what kind
of guy he is from that, but that's not what he's on trial
for. No. So you can't use it
to dig up. And he's so famous that I just think,
general people melt in the face of that type of fame yeah like i feel like ditty could walk around
on the streets and there'd be a handful of people to be like yo can i grab a pick yeah like just
just because you're around a famous person you're like immediately you forget everything you're like
i'm i'm in front of p ditty this is crazy and i think people would go up to and try and say and
all he was guilty for is some orgies like yeah prostitution and like people go look at that
and be like it's not that bad this is this is just character assassination to with
see. Documentaries should be
are more dangerous than weapons.
I remember you said that. I did say that.
Like that shit is dangerous, bro. That is like
who. Yeah.
Yeah. I think I'd rather
my enemy have a gun than a document.
Right? Because like you can't, it's hard to shoot someone in public.
You can make me think whatever you want me to think.
But also, if you shoot me, you go to jail.
If you make a documentary about me, you make money.
You get an award.
Yeah. Yeah.
What?
Imagine someone gave you a golden globe for shooting you in the head.
That's what documentaries are.
This guy's life is done.
How diabolical is 50 cent.
He enters a field of entertainment that he has no expertise in at all,
becomes a phenomenal storyteller, curator of worlds, incredibly successful,
maybe all just to build up the cachet,
to make a documentary about one of his arch nemeses
and destroy his life while profiting off of it.
50 is patient.
God's work, yeah.
God's work on this one.
50 is patient, bro.
Yeah, just don't cross it.
Yo, if I'm Jay-Z, I'm shaking in my motherfucking galoshes or whatever.
I know you don't want to hear this,
but if I am Jay-Z, I am terrified.
Let me tell you the difference between Jay-Z and 50,
the elevator footage is very different.
from with Jay Z.
Jay Z got elevator footage.
He's with the polar opposite
and Did he's elevator footage.
I want you to think he paid
Beyonce's sister to hit him
and him not hit her back.
That might have been the greatest move
in the history of the world.
Now we see this poised, composed man
that would never put his hands on a woman ever.
That was genius.
If that was PR, that's genius.
That wasn't P.
He gets some licks off.
They know that the cheating side is coming out.
Did he pay in like $10 million or whatever
to get that tape?
If I was Jay Z, I'd be like,
I'd pay you $10 million to leak that T and that.
It is funny seeing all the daytime TV people, the thing that they took an issue with in the doc.
That's so funny.
I've seen like three clips already.
And they're like, yeah, I watched this Diddy documentary.
And he saw a guy took on his jacket and then tried to get hand sanitizer.
This guy's a demon.
I was like, that's the part that you thought was bad.
No, Sean, they brought that up too.
Like he was in Harlem, he's shaking hands and hugging people.
And he gets in the car and he goes, I got to take a shower.
I got to shake a shower and boiling water.
And I think the feeling is, is like, this is a community you really say you're part of.
Yeah.
And you don't even want to touch them.
And it's like...
I thought that part was unfair editing.
Because he might have just done that all the time.
And he might have been like, man, these people are hugging me.
I don't know you.
He might just do that with everybody.
But they only did, said that after he was in Harlem.
And then the whole point was you used the black community.
And that could be true.
But I didn't think the edit, that was a very strategically time.
Then he'd been at Burning Man every single year.
Ain't no fucking showers.
and every time you meet someone, you've got to hug him.
Actually, he would always have
the most extravagant camp that
probably had showers in it. Yeah, sure, but you're
hugging every single person that you meet.
Then he probably showers after. Yeah, but he
wasn't fucking enough. That's a dick.
He wasn't fucking the people he met in Harlem.
No, that's what I mean. Like, you know, he's
fucking out. So you're going to save
come, but you can't hug an auntie in Harlem?
This guy got some weird hypochondri of, man.
Did he, bro? Did he's different, man.
Did he's different. Anyway, well, he's going to be on
streets in two and a half years he'll be a burning man soon son if he's good behavior you might be
out in a year dude what's the first podcast appearance for ditty who's bringing him on oh fuck
who's bringing him on i mean doesn't have his own because you want him here i'm not hey i'm not saying
that i'm just asking you who's gonna bring him on call her diddy who do you think brings him on
that's a good question i think he does his own thing i think he does it because what is revolt like isn't
that his...
Yeah, but does he...
Didn't he have to step down from it, or what?
Yeah, I guess.
I'd have to step down.
But still, like,
there's an interview out there
someone's going to want.
Yeah, he's going to do his own thing.
And he got, like, people that...
They don't care what people think of him.
Like, AC, I can see,
sitting down with Diddy?
Act would actually do a great job.
And also just ACC interviewing him
about the gay shit would just be...
You cannot miss...
That stream would have...
100 million views just
And we'd be just weighing
We'd be getting edged
Right until he gets to the gay talk
And the whole feed is just gonna be like
You'll ask him about butt fucking
Ask him about butt fucking
And just have an act say the sentence
Yeah
No I think he's gonna lean in
He's gonna pull like Kevin Spacey vibes
You know when Kevin Spacey does the
plays the character
Oh yeah Frank uh
It was his name Frank something
Underwood
Yeah
And just does like the most ominous video you've ever seen
Yeah
That was crazy.
This is the greatest tour.
This is awesome.
No, this is so cool.
This is a modern marble.
This is what you get when you join Ice.
Yo, shout out to New York Police.
What happened?
They arrested Ice.
This is how you get one.
Going back.
Going back, Akash.
No, he reversed that H-1 visa shit.
You reverse that age 1 v.
Oh yeah, we're going to keep them?
Yeah, I think so.
Shout out the Indians, man.
Y'all made it.
Yeah.
Yo, can I take a shit?
Can I take a shit?
I'm about to shit my pants, dude.
Can we take a break?
Because I'm about to shit my pants.
All right.
Al-Kosh taking a little dump skis.
All right, so what are his options, right?
When he comes out, he could convert to Islam.
That's one.
That seems to be what a lot of people get canceled
that have been doing recently.
Convert to Islam.
So he can convert to Islam.
He could ask.
He could convert to Islam.
to MAGA and ask for the pardon from
Trump. I don't know if Trump
pardons him, though.
Hmm. Yeah. They used to be boys, though.
Did they? I'm pretty sure
like, back in the day.
On some TV shit? Yeah.
Interesting. All right, so then
what are the cowshee? Give us the
cowshy odds for
a Trump pardon.
All right. Trump pardon himself
is pretty high.
That's pretty high.
Oh, shit.
Sam Banking Fried.
I mean, Barron, what did Barron do?
No, I need the comb, so that's 19% but it's going down since the documentary.
Oof.
Wow.
So that's another thing, like, if the doc makes him so radioactive, he can't get a pardon
because it looks so bad on the person that's in power.
Yeah.
And he's only got one crazy pardon to go.
You know what I mean?
It's either Diddy or Galane.
Yeah.
You got to go Galane on that one.
You really think he only has one pardon to go.
I mean, in terms of crazy.
Where's the political capital in giving a diddy part?
Like, I think that should be zero, guys.
He's been pardoning motherfuckers.
He don't even know who they are.
They ask them about that Asian dude, the crypto guy.
He's like, I don't know who that is.
Oh, the Binance dude.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, that's crazy.
That is a little wild.
That is wild.
That's a little wild.
You can't part of someone you don't know who they are.
Unless you're Biden.
Why did he pardon Santos?
the oh sandals is a good time
because he just let him out
those ones a good time
he just seems like yo
that's got there's got to be like
oh he's going to snitch
like I this is what I imagine
the pardons are it's either like a favor
from someone close to you before you get out of there
somebody who has been loyal to you and got hemmed up
in some shit and you're like I need to protect them
you know a war there is political capital
in the pardoning you know January 6 people
there's political capital and pardoning all them, right?
The rouse up the base.
The base is excited.
And I think some people just straight paying for it.
I think there's a price for it.
But what's the price, though?
Well, allegedly, I heard this with the Binance guy.
Two mil, right?
Yeah, what's the Binan's one?
Like, allegedly it was like, he got pardoned,
and then he has all these funds that he's able to, like, reinsert back into Trump's projects.
Yeah.
Like his, like crypto projects.
Allegedly, I don't know if this is the case.
This is what I've heard.
I mean, that checks out.
So then you're paying for it, like Alsaid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like a little, you know, you scratch my back type of.
I scratch yours.
Did this run out of battery?
Probably.
Thank God.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
The part of the shit is crazy, right?
Shouldn't we get rid of that?
Why does the president just get to say you're allowed to do a legal shit?
Right?
Like, why?
That's weird, the part of thing.
What's the justification for it?
It's one of the checks and balances.
He can push back against, like, the judicial.
So if the judicial is going after someone that he can then let, pardon them.
But that does the same.
seem like a balance.
Well, the idea is like, oh, that seems like total power.
The judicial is going after people unfairly, and then you have the president that's able to be
like, no, no, you guys are overstaffing.
How can they go after people unfairly if it's decided by a jury of their peers?
I guess the idea is like you're levying all these charges that are frivolous, and then you're
able to get them on something.
But ultimately, the jury of your peers is the check against the judicial system.
So if you think the judicial system is doing something abusive, then a jury of your
peers sets in and goes, no, that's not the case.
I just think it's like a weird amount of power to bestow upon the president.
I would do away a part of it.
The founders intentionally designed it as a kind of emergency break on the justice system.
So just in case the justice system got out of whack.
Well, also, they can only forgive federal crimes.
So it's against the federal judicial system.
Like state crimes, you can't.
I think the governor can let you out for state crimes of your state.
Interesting.
And then, like, what would a federal crime be?
Is that based on jurisdiction or is that based on the type of crime?
I think jurisdiction.
If like you go across state lines, it becomes federal.
Yeah.
Like Luigi is up for state crime and federal.
See, but then there's times where pardoning is good, like the Central Park Five.
That was a good pardon.
Mm-hmm.
Sorry, guys.
A federal crime is any act that violates a law passed by the U.S. Congress,
typically involving national interests crossing state lines occurring on federal property or affecting federal agencies.
and is prosecuted by the federal government and federal court.
Unlike state crimes handled locally,
common examples include terrorism,
mail fraud, kidnapping, cross-state lines,
drug trafficking, counterfeiting, tax evasion, and cyber crimes.
So stuff you need to get pardon for, little shit, you know what I mean?
You do a little drug trafficking, some tax evasion, some kidnapping,
and you need someone to step in and cover you, you know?
Yeah.
Let's be honest, this shit is tax evasion.
Like, is this shit?
That's what it is, right?
I mean, now probably.
This is like a white, it's white collar shit
so you could look after your homies
before you get out of office.
Because what terrorists is getting, oh, I guess January 6.
Kidnapping across state lines,
no one was pardoning you for that.
Drug trafficking, maybe.
Like I could see you pardoning someone
if you were drug trafficking,
but like the CIA was the one that was importing the drugs
from like some Central American.
What if you're like a whistleblower?
And you come out and you're like,
hey, this company is doing some terrible shit
or like the CIA is doing something fucked up.
They put you in jail.
And then two years go by and we go, like,
actually, he doesn't need life in prison.
They put you in jail for treason.
Right.
But in reality, you did the right thing.
It was patriotic.
Yeah.
And then they bail you out.
God.
Okay.
All right.
And I think that's how they used to use it.
And now they're just abusing the shit.
They got to let us vote.
I think we got to put it up to a vote.
I think America's got talent style.
You bring five of them out and be like,
all right, what did you do?
Why should you be out?
And then we decide.
It's call in Ryan C. Crows hosting.
America's got pardons.
Exactly.
And you bail people out and then we get to choose
and be like, all right, this guy can come out.
Yeah, this is late stage capitalism, guys.
It might be a lot.
We run ads on it.
It'll be great.
It might be a rap.
And then we just let people out.
And then see what they're going to do when they get out.
What's going to be your first order of business?
You know?
All right, that's all the ditty shit, man.
That's enough ditty.
Enough ditty.
Do not mess with 50.
Do not make him a mortal enemy of yours.
That is a horrible decision.
Also, don't beat and abuse and fuck guys against their will or women against their will.
That ends up biting you in the long run.
But, yeah, listen, we got a lot to talk about on Patreon.
We got to talk about Matt Barnes sending $60,000 to an AI chick on Instagram.
Allegedly.
Give me his money back.
He should donate that to charity.
Matt Zunkerberg should give him his money back
and then Matt donates that to charity
That'd be sick
Yeah for online awareness
That's a good thing to do
I think that's a good thing to do
That we could all support
And it's a great charitable donation
You're already throwing it to charity
You might as well continue that
Okay
That was her name
Yeah
But yeah we got a lot to talk about
Patreon man
Quentin Tarantino coming on
Tell us more actors he hates
So we got to
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Yo, what was that? Great actor. You said, fuck me for it. Exactly.
What? What movie did you turn down of Tarantino? Had to be.
That shit felt personal. Because Paul Dano's a beast, dude. There will be blood. He's unbelievable.
Good actor. Good actor. Good actor.
He was good as the Riddler. Yeah. We're going to get through it. And we got to talk about Netflix.
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