Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - DJ Akademiks Most Flagrant Interview Ever

Episode Date: July 6, 2021

Join Andrew Schulz, Akaash Singh, AlexxMedia & Mark Gagnon as they are joined by DJ Akademiks

both of them together beavis and butthead and tell them to come up with a fucking six times more like the rappers get very sensitive about their money they're lying i'd be sensitive too they're like you'll never see him post that story so bad i've criticized nikki nikki fans will turn me like i've i've thought like am i gay what's up everybody welcome to flagrant 2 We have an illustrious guest today Yes sir Someone I'm very excited to have on the podcast Matter of fact, I don't think we can start it Without doing it right

You got to do the good stuff for me You got to do it for me Come on, baby We got the Adrena Chrome for Alex Jones We got the Hennessy XO For the one and only DJ Academics You want to crack that open, Axe? For the time out on the Flavor 2 podcast.

I'm going to just write this narrative saying that, hey, listen, y'all needed a little bit of extra diversity. Salute to my man Alex over there, but y'all need some extra diversity. Y'all been going far for this Alex Jones shit, man. Let's go. Y'all had to bring some color to the set.

I'm here. Look at the guy right next to you. They don't count you for no... Hey, hey, hey, what is that? What happened to solidarity? You only want that shit when it's time to march, huh? Truth be told, I've been doing the Googles now. Okay, talk to me.

To be honest, at first I was like, y'all look kind of crazy for even thinking that, but I'm like, I can see why. But it's not in a bad way. See why what? I can see why with the Alex Jones. You see what Joe said. Come on. Let's kick it off You want some ice

Okay, we asked if you wanted water when he came to the podcast he said he only drinks liquor Okay, so let's start it off. Wait, who said what? Man, I'll act like, are we acting like you didn't hear? I don't know. I truly have not. I truly have not. He's planning a wedding. It's an Indian wedding. That's a very big deal.

Yeah, he's getting married this weekend, bro. He has no frame of reference. Yo, you interruptors, that is an Indian wedding. That whole campus is one big-ass Indian wedding. Yeah, you should know about this, bro. The whole little business school over there. I love them, though. You know what I mean? Alright, stop talking about that boring nerd shit. Let's talk about some real stuff and let's pour this liquor.

What are we discussing? Bro, you've been actually been trending for like the last week. What happened? What happened? What happened? What happened? I don't even know. I was at the beach. You know what I mean? I was at the beach. I was in the Hamptons just living my life. All right, how do you want to start this?

Because honestly, I really want to squash the beef between you and me. Okay, okay. Okay. First of all, which Joe are we talking about? Are we talking about Joe Biden? I assume. Yeah, President of the United States. No, no.

We're talking about the President. No, we're talking about Joe Buden, man. Oh, Joe Buden. Oh, Joe Buden. Don't do it. Don't do it. You know, I love Joe Buden, bro. I think he got a cute little Patreon. It's cute. You know what I mean? His bro. I think you got a cute little patron.

It's cute. You know what I mean? His patron is cute. He got a cute little patron, bro. I'm just saying, release the numbers. He got a cute little patron. I usually don't talk about people I've passed. So you brought him up, but I don't talk about people I've passed.

I used to talk about when he was bigger than me. Now he got to use my name for clickbait, he got to use my name for clickbait. Hold on, hold on, hold on. He got to use my name for clickbait, At. I mean, times have changed. He used to never talk about me. Wouldn't have let me be on a podcast. Now, you got to say my name.

You really think? You got to say my name, bro. Call him Jesse's child. Say my name. You're not that crazy. Ain't calling me baby. Why the sudden change? Say my name.

Say my name. I used to do a show with him, man. I can't. You know what I'm talking about. Hey, used to, motherfucker. Used to. A lot of people used to do a show with him. That's because he's M.O., man.

There's a lot of people who used to work for Joe. Joe, buddy, he's the Trump of rap. He got a lot of ex- to work for Joe. Joe Biden, he's the Trump of rap. He got a lot of ex-employees, bro. You're fired. Isn't that what he said? You're fired. He compares himself to more like Dave Chappelle. Yeah, I would too if I was actually Trump.

Yeah, Trump compares himself to Abraham Lincoln. You think it's accurate? Andrew, Andrew, Andrew, this really started. Hey, you know who I'm like Gandhi Yeah man You are like Gandhi I'm just like Gandhi

You are like Gandhi I'm like Martin Luther King Martin Luther King You know what I mean Jesus right here Mark That's literally Jesus We got Jesus on the podcast

We got Jesus We got Jesus over here We got Gandhi over here We got Gandhi Who am I I'm just Andrew Schultz You're on I'm just me bro You're on man It You're on. I'm just me, bro.

You're on, man. It's up to me, man. Is this all because I remember y'all did a joint podcast before. Obviously, you do Brilliant Idiots with Charlamagne, right? Yeah. And for whatever reason, you were not invited. There was a lot of shots taken at you. After that podcast.

I don't even think it was by Joe. After that podcast, they did one at Joe's. Yeah. Okay, so you weren't invited. I was told I wasn't allowed to be there. Okay. You felt a certain type of way about it. Yeah, sure.

At the time, yeah, I cared about that. Don't shrug it off because I hear the shots. I'm trying to get to a place. I'm saying honestly, at the time, yeah. I was like, okay, I thought we're creating this cool kind of fake beef shit. And I want to be part of it. I want to talk some shit. It's podcast beef.

And I know you're going to talk about me. So if you're going to talk about me, why wouldn't you want me there? Is podcast beef good for business? No, because we don't beef with nobody. And we're the best in the business. We really don't. So it's like, this is boring for me.

I want to edit this out. Yeah, I don't want to talk about Joe. I want to have fun. But Joe needs it. Let's help Joe. We got to help Joe. I think I think Joe is down bad. Say what? You think he's down bad? No, I don't think he's about Joe But Joe needs it let's help Joe I think my nigga Joe is down bad Say what? You think he's down bad

No I don't think he's down bad but he's not up He's not up Okay The girl that talks about sucking dick for a living got 60 million from Spotify 60 million Talking about sucking dick Calls her throat the gluck gluck 3000 That's what she

Refers to it at I didn't even make it up She goes it's the gluck gluck 3000. That's what she refers to it at. I didn't even make it up. She goes, it's the Gluck Gluck 3000. I need to see what that's about. No, she got $60 million. I don't know what she said. No, she's just talking about sucking dicks and she used to call her daddy.

I'm pretty sure she does a little bit more than that. Come on. She just tells stories about sucking dicks? That is what it is. This is how bad girls are at telling stories. They gotta actually suck dicks to make that money. This one girl that could tell stories

made 60 fucking million with Spotify. I feel like in a roundabout way, you're almost hinting like Joe fumbled the bag. No, no. We already said that. He said exclusively he fumbled the bag and then he just copied everything we do and it is what it is. That's an interesting perspective for you guys to have because you guys are independent.

Yes, of course. Well, as independent as you can be, we do rely on big tech. Of course, but like, him, him, him. We do rely on big tech. Him going independent though. In the Chinese slave camps. Kim's going independent, though.

I would imagine you guys would salute that move. That's the thing I can't understand about the little tips right here. You both are on Patreon. Oh, you want me to be logical? Yes. Oh, no, no, no. That's no fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Whatever he does is wrong. Whatever we do is right. No, I salute it. I just think give some credit. You know what I mean? Yeah. Why you get on Patreon? Was that your idea?

You never seen anybody else do it? That's it. So you guys feel like, yo, you guys like discovered the moon and here he comes. Basically, you know what I mean? With the title, all that. Honestly, I don't really think about it. I'll be honest. I don't really think about it.

I thought it was funny that he went from never saying my name to needing to say my name. And that was cool because it's like, wow, I'm at a point where you have to. Even if you don't want to, you have to. And that was a cool thing. Heat up the streets, huh? Say what? You heat up the streets. I don't know about the streets.

I was in the Hamptons. Now we call that the trenches. We call that the trenchespton here's the thing i i uh i really i'm weird and i'm kind of like this in my relationships as well whereas like i'll i'll have like a fight with my girl like we'll argue about something i'll forget what we fought about really so like i know that i'm not supposed to like rory Amal, but I forget why. Really? Yeah, I don't know why.

Who's dissing on you? But for what? What were they dissing on me because of something I said? Because if I make fun of you and then you make fun of me back, that's okay. I have the memory of an elephant. Go, go, go, go, go, go.

Yeah, listen, when somebody says something about me, I save it. You came recalling shit as soon as you sat down. I save it. Okay, you can talk to me. No, to be honest.

I forget what I said. Well, even in that podcast that you didn't go to, I remember the little Ibaka dude, he was like, yo, I'm funnier than Andrew shows. Yeah, but we know that that's crazy. It's like- I mean, does he believe that? Of course, he can't believe it. There's no way he can believe that.

I mean, hey, well, listen, you have gone past in me. I save stuff like that. Yeah, but it's like somebody saying, it's like your girl saying that she could beat you in arm wrestling. Yeah, it's cute. Do you mean it's not real? It's like, oh, that's adorable. Like you think you're funny. Like I don't compete with people in funny that don't go on stage. The only thing is I'm watching the craziest thing.

And I kind of watch those like podcast dynamic shit. Yeah. thing is i'm watching the craziest thing and i kind of watch all this like podcast dynamic shit yeah and i'm watching like the audience like i don't know if it's joe's audience or just the podcast or is there room for these dudes who felt who seem now to be the victims of joe but it's so crazy they co-signed all they sat next to him it was like everything he said they were ad-libbing like the migos yeah so the whole time it happened they're ad-libbing like the Migos. So the whole time it happened, they're ad-libbing. Matter of fact, I remember when he was talking about the Spotify thing.

They were ad-libbing, talking crazy shit. People don't think we got a plan. People don't think that we're smarter than the average Joe. And I'm looking like, these dudes don't even know how much the deal is for. Now they come out and start crying. Shedding a tear is the easiest way to get back on people's good side. Everybody forgot that.

Everybody's like, yo, we want them to win. Let's get these guys to the top. And I'm like, is this entertaining to everybody watching? Or are you so mad at this guy who I think Nah, the tears gotta be justifiable though. If you just see a grown man whining, you're like, shut the fuck up, dude. We don't like grown man

whining. But if you feel it's justified, then, oh shit, the emotions fuck up, dude. We don't like grown man whining. But if you feel it's justified, then, oh shit, the emotions were on their side. You can't PR-wise fire two people, not even have them there, and then expect people to not be like,

that's kind of fucked up. And then on that same podcast have the one guy left be like, yeah, the Spotify deal was a bad deal. When you yelled at us for three hours

about how it was a great deal and we're fucking idiots and we have no right to. Only thing I said was a bad deal. I said he wasn't even crazy if he asked for 50 million with spotify and then who the fuck is the indian dude i defend you i'm just saying it's a bad deal you acknowledge it acknowledge it well is that what we were arguing about that's what i said i don't know

i did bro I started catching a tan. You started living a good life, man. I like that shit. You live a good life, man. I'm just trying to be like Ak, bro. I'm just trying to be like Ak. Foreigns, everything. You look good. I see the car collection. I'm still riding Ubers, bro.

I'm still riding Ubers, man. That's a collection of e-bikes, but no, no, no. I know you got the real stuff. I don't got nothing. I got a fake Porsche, bro. I got a fake Porsche, bro. You hop up on my Netflix I'm great dog

I don't know what to tell you man I was gonna try to fight it I was gonna try to be humble But I'm brave Alright so So when are we all gonna mend this relationship And all come together And be a big happy family

Cause I'm ready to forgive Rory and Maul For what I said about them What? Hey I forgive y'all Forgive Rory and Maul for what I said about them. What? Hey, I forgive y'all. Now that you guys are doing your podcast out of my boys' podcast studio, I forgive y'all for what I've said about y'all. Okay, so the money is keeping the money in the family. You good?

Bro, it's family business out here. That's it, bro. I like that. I didn't say pimping them out. I didn't say pimping them out. No, none of that. You know what I mean? None of that.

Chill out. None of that. Put that bussy on, none of that. You know what I mean? None of that. Chill out. None of that. Put that bussy on the streets, boys. You know what I'm saying? Yo. That's what I'm talking about. I like it. That's the best way to squash beef.

No, it's not. But wait, look. No, when you have mutual assured, not destruction, but benefit. You know how they said- Mutual interest. Mutual interest, like two countries that got a McDonald's, never been a war. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

If we both want to make money if we're out here for capitalism, then let's cook. Just objectively speaking before we get into this whole forgiveness shit, right? Have you ever watched what them two dudes got going on? That shit looked pretty. That shit looked beautiful.

The studio looks fire. They look good. He got his head in the pocket. He ready to go. Have you pressed record? Are we recording? I just want to make sure. I know you don't like them but one the show is good clearly you see it You see the numbers You see the numbers What's this guy talking about You see the numbers Yo By themself They doing better than Joe right now I'm just saying

Whoa Oh shit Whoa He's such a boy Oh shit He's such a boy That's buckshot Let's just forgive and forget

You know who they're not doing better than DJ Academics Okay Spanish pounds are home Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck

Listen I think I'm being very fair and objective. We got to give it six months. It's a new podcast. It's like four episodes out. Yes. Are we really like, are you going to be the hottest thing out? Are you going to say it's smoking Joe with like 400, 500 episodes, four episodes in?

Come on, bro. I'm just saying Joe's numbers is kind of going down. Also, here's the thing. We don't know that he's behind the paywall. It's his audience that just hate him at this. Yo, they're looking at Joe like Joe's you know that thing from Instagram, Derrick Jackson. Yeah, they feel lied to.

They feel betrayed. They actually want him to just apologize and be like, I'll change. How do you feel about that? Do you think that they should feel lied to? Um, I could understand. They grew a liking to these dudes. Joe is spewing this creator, creator, creator

Listen, I've always said to Joe, he's one of the best At creating a narrative I sat right across from him On everyday struggle and I heard him say things And you know, whether he believed it or not I knew everybody that heard it Believed it And again, I mean

But still, in terms of When you have people buying into an ideology, people are buying in. Sure. And then the moment people see that, wait, do we not really? Oh, you hustled me. Nothing's going to change. They're mad.

Snake oil. I really feel like they're supporting these other dudes to piss them off. Nah. There's a little resentment. Well, maybe their podcast is good. I tuned in. I tried to watch a little bit of it and I really watched it because I wanted to see if the production was better on their shit than our shit because Alex got his own shit.

If their audio was a little bit more crisp, I'd be upset. I'd be upset. If the visual was a little more crisp, I'd be upset. Why don't they have a slider? You think he's taking equipment from here? It's top tier.

Everything's top tier. As Joe Budden would say, you're fired. Yo, I love how you fired them when they were there. Gotta fire the chairs sometimes. Fire the chairs. Let me tell you something. I caught Shed this shit yesterday. He texted me.

He goes, we're talking about you coming on. He goes. Yo, you got to find it. Is academics, how is academics the only person that can make Twitch fire? Like there are so many people on Twitch. Yeah. All playing Call of Duty. It sucks.

Oh my God, you shot me. That's all they're saying. I only signed up for Twitch. For real? To watch you. Yeah. I only signed up to watch. I think I told you this shit. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. Yeah. I only signed up to watch. I think I told you this shit.

And bro, that night, that night I was sitting outside of Coyo Taco, Miami, Florida, parked illegally in my car, watching you on my phone go crazy. And every time you got to reset it, you got to watch a fucking ad again because I didn't pay. So I'm losing out on some content bro it was unbelievable bro not only are you good your boy

who's got one of the funniest Instagram Grand Wizard Chat yeah yeah chat nigga of course bro this is one of the funniest Instagram it's a private account one of the funniest Instagram followers he's hilarious listen that's one of my loyal followers I'm bringing him

to the top. You really are. I'm bringing him to the top. You need to. He's a real one. He's a character on the Twitch, it feels like. Of course.

Of course. Bro, the setup is amazing. He's my assistant. He keeps me updated throughout the day with everything going on. It's unbelievable. Everything.

Everything. But I'm going to be honest. Anyway, you killed it. That night was fucking unbelievable. Now- Unbelievable content. No edits. Live. In the was fucking unbelievable. Now, unbelievable content. No edits. Live.

In the moment. It's incredible. Energy crazy. And I do not bullshit. I do not give out compliments like this often. They know this. It's very hard to impress me. That shit.

I mean, I was texting Charlamagne. I was like, bro, I don't even know what I'm watching. This shit is crazy. It was absolutely crazy. It's a little bit of a head and dog. You know what I mean? Of course. But the XO, though, you got to treat yourself right yourself right bro. You got foreign's dog. Listen, man. Listen now. I'm a cheap date

I'm a cheap date. I get it going on turn the cameras on it could be a little blurry Listen as long as I'm in my in my element I'm ready to go but yeah I do want to and I want and I want I see you're really quick to forgive these news and now I'll make button up this Point first listen, okay. Go go go the reason why I go so hard at them. Yeah I see you're really quick to forgive these dudes. Let me button up this point first. Listen. Okay, go, go, go. The reason why I go so hard at them, and I would have been forgiving them. Because really what happened was-

They might have said some wild shit about me that I'm forgetting, that I might not forgive. Yo, these dudes were hating on me, so I went on everything and struggled, right? But so far, I forgive you. Yeah. I went on everything and struggled, and me and Joe, we're on it. Yeah. They were like, Joe, shoe cleaners, landscapers, pool cleaners, all that type of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They find out that Joe's doing a show with me, and it's an industry type of, like, you know, mentality to be like, yo, why is this guy? Like, I just came in a big audience. They're like, how does he, why is he deserving, right? Yeah. Don't want slick hate. Just overtly. Yeah.

To the point they're overtly like, we don't fuck with this guy. They're saying it on the podcast. Yeah yeah and it happened for a couple years but i don't know for whatever reason the last like year or two it felt like my platform and the dynamic of hip-hop it just made a flip where people like you can't get around them right bro and that's what i want to ask you about you're the most influential voice in hip-hop. Now, I say this doing a podcast with Charlamagne, right? I also say this. Now, Charlamagne is one of the most influential voices in media. You have chosen to stick specifically to hip-hop.

There was a time where Charlamagne was the most influential voice in hip-hop. But, no, of course, you'll get there as well if you choose. We all continue to move on in our respective like our forms but like charlamagne specifically went from talking about hip hop to having politicians on talking about mental health he's continued growing that way you continue to grow but right now i'm going to your page if some shit goes down i appreciate it for real like i don't know i don't know why i know that little luzie pulled a gun out of st john i don't even know who st john is i don't know if somebody know that Lil Uzi pulled a gun out of St. John. I don't even know who St. John is.

I don't know. If somebody showed me a picture of St. John, I would say it wasn't that. But I know it because I was looking. But what you've also managed to do in the past year, year and a half, is go from a hip-hop information site to your own persona much more so. Yeah. Like, now DJ Academic said some crazy shit on Twitch. That's as much a DJ Academic story as the other shit you're reporting.

Did you make that choice consciously? Like, yo, I need to do this for me no i did twitch because i had a million this is like 2017 i had a million subscribers on youtube and i realized i had to get more pc and i'm like fuck just because i remember i gave commentary on a ray rice situation and like youtube did some shit they like spun my account around and did some shit to it. They like spun my account around. They did some shit to it. I'm seeing yellows all over the place. I'm like, whoa. You did commentary like play by play. I mean. He had the yellow mark.

What are you doing? He did the Madden. I mean, kind of play by play. Down goes Frazier. Down goes Frazier. Hit the Joe Maddens. Hit the Joe Maddens. Boom.

You guys are fucked up. You guys said that. I was just quoting. Y'all are. This is art. You guys said that. I was just quoting. Y'all are wild. This is art. YouTube monitor. I quoted Madden. This is art.

This is satire. I quoted Madden. Okay? So in reality, I started realizing, I'm like, hey, certain opinions. Alex is crazy, bro. Yo, Alex, anytime you say something crazy, you just go, yo, Alex is crazy, bro. Blame it on the black guy. Blame it on the black guy.

You see how they do. You see how they do. Yeah, I see how they do. He's a black lesbian. They can say anything. I gotta blame it on you say they do be out it do he's a black lesbian Listen I can't take you know this shit cooking up. I can't stay the better just point to that guy They don't pass it on the line. All right. Hit it. All right. Hit it. Hit it. So really,

I went on Twitch to just communicate with my core audience. I wanted to find a core. Yeah. Because truth be told, what people don't realize about building an audience, listen,

you're going to have the masses, but you need a Grand Wizard to chat negative to Rob for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the person who, you have 300 of those? You know the person who, you have 300 of those? You know the movie 300? You have 300 of those?

It's better than 10,000 people. Yeah, because. So I went there, and I'm like, if they will follow me off platform. Yes. To somewhere else. Yes. They got to make an account. At that time, it wasn't that easy to watch it on your phone.

And if they would watch me, they're my core audience. That's why I then be like, yo, that's the chatnaggers, right? Yeah, yeah. And that grew that over time, people just started stealing bites from that to say, he said this. It was a secret thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was supposed to be like just for a portion of the audience. Now they, so I used to be talking crazy on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm talking wild. I'm telling, listen, I'm stitching everybody. I'm like, yo, I talked to a rapper yesterday. He told me he just slapped his girl. I'm telling you. Listen, I'm stitching everybody. I'm like, yo, I talked to a rapper yesterday. He told me he just slapped his girl. I'm saying everything. At first, I'm dropping names because I'm thinking it's only my true, true. It would be like Patreon. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'm just giving it up. All of a sudden, one day I look up. It's like on a blog. I'm like, hmm. And then I'm like, I can't deny it. I'm on video. I'm calling 4K. So after a while, you're like, 4K?

I'm calling 4K. It's better than the UFOs, bro. Yo, I figured out how to kind of manipulate it a little bit. But it became almost like a platform where people wanted me to get on there and just keep it real. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? And as long as I didn't go too far, I was good.

So that's pretty much how that happened. You went too far when Rory and Maul got fired, bro. Hold on. All right. So let me address that. We like too far. All right. Let's pretty much how that happened You went too far When Rory and Maul got fired bro Hold Alright So let me address that We like too far Alright let me address that This is the too far channel Alright hold on

But that shit was too far I was dying I had to put them bums In a bump Bump in a casket man I'm sorry man I'm gonna tell you what You don't want one of them

Bum ass niggas Pulled up to my house Wait really Yes Paid the toll What the fuck he up Well yeah But listen.

Wait, were you more disrespected by the car? Yeah, because where I live at. Akia, come on, man. They saw it coming a mile away. They hit you like, yo, someone coming. My neighbors were like, what the fuck is going on over here? They told my relatives, like, yo, wait, you having a cookout? I'm like, no.

This is a bomb. You guys have a cookout? How is he here? Like, we're looking at him like, how! This is a bomb! He was trespassing. How is he here? Like, we're looking at him like, how did he get here? So, I have him on security tape. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They pull up. It's a huge, it's a huge, like, I'm going to just call it a compound.

You know what I mean? Tax purposes is a shack. They pull up. They swing open the door. They're in the car. It's two dudes. Yeah, yeah. I don't think the dude

Was the other Black dude on the show But um Who's that? Are we acting like We don't know names now? Me and Limor bro Okay okay

As I said The other one Yeah yeah yeah He puts his hand out And my mailbox Is down there by the street Yeah yeah He puts something

In my mailbox Yeah And then I found it later Now I didn't realize that it could have been something malicious until... Because I got a lot of enemies. Nicky Boyfriend's trying to kill me.

How many rappers am I beefing with? I like to keep a healthy list of like 10. You know what I mean? Make sure I got to wash my back every little bit. You came to our studio. Of course. The first time I do my Googles, you know what I mean? My guy did the neighborhood check, and I'm like, oh, I'm straight. No, no, you're not.

Oh, wait. Someone killed the other day. For real? Some chick that just got tackled out of nowhere. Legit. Legit groping right outside the studio. We're moving right the fuck up out of here. Oh, shit, yeah, yeah.

Absolutely. Not too big for that. We're moving to Jersey. I'm like, Andrew Schultz is here. I'm like, yo, this nigga is probably cooling with his toes out. No crime. his toes out. No promises. Toes out. Yo, that Miami look was crazy.

We did have a nice one. So, I see the letter, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They left you a letter. It was a Hallmark card. And the Hallmark card said, it was one of those like. They got to do one of their sketches where they're picking out that card. Is it open enough?

Like, is this open information? I posted it online. Rory, can you tell your workers that. Stop. Tell your workers. Stop it. Stop it. Tell the two stooges, you know what I mean?

Both of them together, beavis and butthead, and tell them to come up with a fucking producing in the studio yeah i gotta keep that the keeper like listen send it i want i want a preview come on you got them sitting in the seats like that too that's good bro stop you gotta get grand wizard to edit the video yo no grand grand we're gonna do this okay no no but i'm i'm rooting for them i like them The grand wizard to edit the video. Yo. No, grand. Grand. We're going to do this. Get it. Okay.

No, no. But I'm rooting for them. I like them. Shut up. I like them, bro. I truly root for them. I truly do. Bro, I like them, bro. Yo, so literally, I looked at the shit.

Now, I didn't know who really it was about at first, right? Yeah. Because truth be told, I can't really- That's why I'm angry at them. Yo, I can't really see who's in the car. I can't really see who's in the car I was gonna say I was like you remember But it was like fake pull up I think they were just trying to put some girls like y'all we're coming for him like I don't Got a membership. It's all you think

It is possible They just saw another white dog dude with a big nose and they were like Andy Schultz a soul house And it's just some soccer player You realize okay, go actually think they like some fake monsters with a big nose and they were like, Andy Schultz is so house and it's just some soccer player. If you listen to this story, you'll realize these niggas actually think they're like some fake monsters. Oh, really? So the car was a threat. It had smiley faces, all type of...

It's like you had Crayola, this little kid colored outside the lines. Anyway, it was like, yo, happy birthday. Now shit on them, call them stooges and workers. They were denying that they were workers and I just knew it. People think that Joe is feeding me information information i'm like bro i do business with companies you do business with companies yeah i know when they're doing business with three people

or one person yeah they were doing it with joe and joe was then doing his separate business with them now i pointed out the obvious and they were really upset because you know what it was exposing them to be the fraud because they were speaking on everybody you know what? It was exposing them to be the fraud because they were speaking on everybody else's business. When it came to Gilly and his business, super outspoken. They're like, yeah, you guys got to get your contracts in check. They were talking about everything.

That was where the game? Gilly and Wallow? Yo. I love those guys. Those guys are great. Are you cool with them? Tell them to come on the pod, man. They are legends, bro. They are. They are. I love those guys. Those guys are great. Are you cool with them? Tell them to come on the pod, man. They are legends, bro. They are. They are. I love those guys.

Okay. Hilarious. So I get the letter. I can't really see who's in the car, but I see the car pull up because it's on security camera. Yeah. And I'm like, damn, I got so many fucking enemies. I got to go down the list.

And so me and my guy and another guy who really doesn't laugh at me, I'm like, yo, who the fuck could it be? So they're looking at me like. Meek Mill don't drive a Kia. You really got to go through your broken salmon. Oh, shit. You know what I mean? He sent the goon like, I mean, OK, this is the crash dummy right here.

Just go take him out with the Kia. Oh, my goodness. You know what I mean? I'm like somebody who's probably down bad. Anyway. Yeah. Later that night, I'm on Twitch. And I think I was listening to Tory Lanez's album.

Now, I'm going to be honest. When I'm on Twitch, I'm off the handle. I'm having a good time. Yeah, yeah. I think I fell asleep. You know what I'm saying? I'm sorry. There was one.

There was one. There was a video. There was a video. There was a video. There was a video. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It wasn't I really fall asleep I'm just gonna close him for a second. He was knocked the 20 seconds I'm telling to let this one sleep. This one, there you go. I'm just going to close him for a second. He was knocked for 20 seconds. It was like extended blink, bro. I'm telling you, man. Out. Anyway, out.

It was an extended blink. All of a sudden. He believes extended blink. Yo, to be told, I was passing. I ain't going to lie to you. My man comes to my crib. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He turns off the stream. I somehow just like move into the next room and start sleeping.

Yeah, yeah. And I kid you not Like I'm drunk Yeah yeah yeah He says to me And I don't know It's the first time You know how they say Like cocaine

Like gets you If you drunk You're like mad sober again Yeah Somehow while I'm about To just take a nap Well this is gonna be Really a nap

He says Ruri Tweeted at you Saying you were Like you're getting getting paid to sleep and listen to Tory's album. And my eyes opened up like I just seen God. I jumped right back on stream. So anyway, I'm tweeting at him. I say, yo, hop on my stream right now.

Because honestly, I think none of those dudes, this is why I think they're really trash broadcasters. I've always asked them. I said, I don't think Joe would let y'all get in a room to do a podcast or whatever with me. But let's all get a mic. Yeah. Because I don't really think none of y'all are talented. Let's get to it. So.

For real. I'm like. Why are you guys not coming to the broadcast, bro? I'm like, yo. I said, it's a handicap match. Y'all can do a fusion. I got both of y'all at the same time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Y'all both. It's like two people with half a brain. I got both of y'all at the same time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all both be... It's like two people with half a brain. I got y'all, okay? Yeah, yeah. Anyway, he starts tweeting back at me because he doesn't want to come on the stream. Oh, you invited him on the stream? Yeah.

So this is real time. And he refused to go on the stream? Yeah, this is real time. Yeah, yeah. All of a sudden, he started tweeting out numbers. I'm like, huh? First tweet has one number. Second tweet, two numbers. numbers third tweet three numbers fourth tweet

four numbers and i still can't get it but in his in his like messages right so it'd be like one then one five i'm making these numbers up he actually tweeted actual numbers then it looked like he was trying to send a message that's what I'm telling you he thinks it's some godfather shit He says to me Listen If people wanted to hurt you We could have heard it like something like that Then it clicks

The nigga tweeted out my zip code So now I connected The letter is the same day Letter in the mailbox I didn't receive the threat because I got mad enemies Right I'm thinking Rory Like this fucking albino dweeb letter in the mailbox. I didn't receive the threat because I got mad enemies. I'm thinking, Rory, this fucking albino dweeb dropping off a fucking Hallmark card.

I'm not scared of this clown. What were you about to call him? What? You almost went full Jamaican right there. Hey, this ain't Twitch, bro. Listen, y'all don't have to believe this. Y'all don't have to believe it. Anyway.

So it quickly dawned on me. This fucking clown was trying to intimidate me. Yeah. Dropped something off the mailbox. Yeah. Now he's so mad I didn't connect the thread to him. He's tweeting out my zip code I'm like bingo

I've been on his ass ever since ever since but that's disrespectful to tweet out your zip code and also leave like a thread at your house bro if somebody

comes to your house listen I don't know where people come from but you come to somebody's house you're playing death games and why do you think

he would do that it would have been fire if it was like a Hallmark condolences card though like sorry for your loss that shit would have been terrifying he's one of those people who i i don't know maybe he's he's of the the the

mindset i say yo i could like they can't they can't content for content listen when i'm on twitch i'm like mike tyson giovante davis no not not many people can match you i am going crazy like they you can't respond to me on that. That's my arena. I don't think they ever wanted to respond like that, but it was pissing them off. I think they were like, you know what? That's my arena.

I'm going to feel like a gladiator up in that bitch. You know what I mean? I'm not making these memes right now. The fuck? It's content, bro're the fuck. Man, you're the fuck. It's content, bro. Yo, with a mic on, I don't think them niggas could fuck with me any day of the week, any second of the day.

Like, bro, them dudes, I'm telling you. Yeah. I used to listen to Joe's podcast. I used to tell him, I said, bro, every time. I'm like, could you have them clowns stop chiming in when you're spitting game? Yeah. Because sometimes he's spitting. I know you don't really fuck with him, but you're spitting game. Tell them clowns to shut the fuck up. Them dudes is getting

$40,000 a year, man. Shut up. Nobody want to hear you talk about like you're really breaking down the... Shut up. You know what I mean? Shut the fuck up. Like, Joe could talk about it. Now it would even make more sense because he was swindling them bum ass niggas. Sure.

They thought it was cool. Swindling. I hope you charge them bum ass niggas. That's true. And he thought they thought it was cool. Swindling. Yo, Alex, man, I hope you charge them bum ass niggas twice. Like, double the rate. They're dumb as shit. I'm telling you, you gotta do it, bro. You gotta do it.

Yo. Do you think Joe felt guilty when they would defend him swindling them? Like, do you think there was ever a part of him on the podcast when he was like, man, I got these motherfuckers wrapped around my pinky, bro Be honest, and I still think he probably feels this way and I feel this way too. Yeah, like

Are you really robbing somebody like I you you guys do flagrant to and in the primary whole sir? Gosh, you're right. Everybody has a piece of this podcast. Okay, but okay but here's the thing if you thought man i'm carrying these niggas like right lebron or like remember that remember that uh horrible cast team he brought like the finals yeah eric snow oh seven yeah gibson like water boys on it that shit was crazy you know i mean so it's like if you feel you carrying these dudes you're probably looking at them like you should be working at walmart right right like bro i'm over it so what i'm hearing joe talk about it he's like yo they're getting paid like a hundred thousand dollars these dudes are bums that's what he's thinking like he's not thinking like we created this i think maybe his audience is probably trying to show him like no it's not

just you we actually did like well if we're being honest doesn't that mean that they they like them and that they resonate with them like if we're gonna give rory maul all the credit they deserve if people are going and listening to podcasts how about this if six months from now people are still listening at these numbers don't you got to say all right you got something maybe you don't understand it i'll also say this people do when you say they can't they're not as good and for you to say to that point for you to say they're not as good as me and for you to say to that point for you to say they're not as good as me you're incredible at this like i'm already seeing like you can carry shit on your own in a way not a lot of people can so to say they're there's no way they're as good as me

cool but you're a top whatever whatever what a point one point zero zero one percent so they can still be good and not be as good as you all right as andrew said you want me to be logical or you just want me to be emotional we do a thing here called feelings no facts hit it no no honestly um i'm gonna be logical with this one all right i actually like they do have their worth in i do think the audience loves all three of them together. They had good chemistry. Yeah, but I still think and this is one of the reasons why in 2017

when I got on Everyday Struggle, I was doing my YouTube thing and I felt I was really good on that platform, but I'd never really been on camera. You were awkward at first. You learned how to be good exactly yeah and i looked at that and joe was a fucking pro from day one yeah he was a pro and when i was even thinking about these dudes is like you don't as much of an asshole he is yeah you don't know the benefit and the luxury you have

working with someone like if you when you work with charlemagne very early on yeah when someone could do some heavy lifting and do some things that maybe you weren't you're not there yet with i'm not here without charlemagne and i don't mean that in terms of like the access to people i mean that in terms of the access to skill it's like motherfuckers are playing europe and then they come to the nba you learn how to play basketball in the nba i remember this there's a reason why l Luka Doncic goes back to Slovenia and that team makes the Olympics for the first time, I think, in their country's history. It's because Luka's been playing in the NBA. Charlemagne says I'm a professional talker and that motherfucker is so good at talking.

And you got to rise your shit to that. And I wasn't even close when we first started. It was something I got to get better at every single time and see how good he was and try to pick up a little bit of that every single time yeah yeah no i hear you and that's what i'm saying well it's a sink or swim moment but you can't evaluate over the first six months they have to show if they could end up being what you are i'll say this i'll say this this is what i'll give them credit guys i fucked up okay i was supposed to tell you about these shows i have dropping this friday tickets going sale this friday because we're adding shows in a bunch of markets and I fucked up, okay? I was too drunk off the hen dog and I didn't tell you during the podcast. So I'm telling you right now, it's very important, September 20th,

we are taping the special in Austin on the 19th and the 20th. Those shows are all sold out, so we added a fourth show on the 20th, okay? You can get those tickets this friday awesome time 10 a.m all right we're also adding uh a late show in dc very important dc is sold out so we're adding another show that night october 23rd uh november 6th san francisco we just put up the san francisco show y'all gobbled up all those tickets so we're adding another show at the mic Theater, November 6th. And then Chicago, November 13th. We are adding a late show in Chicago. I cannot believe it. That is absolutely insane that we are.

But thank you guys so much. So go get those tickets. Minneapolis, we're adding another show, November 18th, third show. And we are coming back to Florida. Jacksonville, December 5th. Remember, these tickets are going to be available Friday, 10 a.m. in each of those local markets. So go get them at TheAndrewSchultz.com, www.TheAndrewSchultz.com. Do not trust any other websites because you don't know if they're scammers.

You don't know if they're scalpers. You don't know what the hell is going on. We have the accurate links that you could use on our website. Also, my boy Akash Singh is getting married this weekend. Wish him happy marriage. But alsoash Singh is getting married this weekend. Wish him happy marriage, but also he is on tour as well. Go to akashsingh.com. Check out his full tour schedule. Go check out his shows. He's absolutely murdering on the road, selling out these shows. So get those tickets early. Now let's get back to the May. What I admire about them is a lot of

people wouldn't take that chance. They the chance to fail and if i'm being honest well no a lot of people would go all right let me try to get another job let me do some anr shit let me do something else in music maybe there's opportunities they could have got and this way they couldn't fail in front of all the people right that that are looking at them going can you carry a show now they said fuck it we're gonna go do it We're gonna prove that we were a valuable Asset to Joe's podcast And in six months or a year We'll see if they are but I admire Them taking a chance a lot of motherfuckers don't take the chance

They sit on the sidelines they bitch They complain they whine they don't do shit They did shit I admire that It's not even hate it's actually a little bit of hate A lot of logic Joe Budden Or Joe Boone as y is how I call him. He has a

podcast network, correct? Kinda. You never help him with YouTube, bro? Who's the idiot running his shit? You know the internet. He's using his shit like... Before we get there.

Son, if Rory or Maul got a bad deal, think how bad the deal on the Joe Budden network is. No, no, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, no, no. Son. Think about this, though. Think about this. Son, you're getting Spotify'd out that bitch. And this is why I realize people are blinded by their need to have sympathy for these dudes

more than actually being objective. Right. Y'all was on that... Y'all was on Joe Bunn podcast for four years. Why y'all never did nothing on the side? You brought up a great point. Why y'all never did this before? Why y'all never did skits?

Y'all doing skits? Did Joe have y'all really locked in the basement? Right. Really victimizing y'all? This was like the R. Kelly show where apparently Kelly got people, they got to look at the walls. Y'all couldn't do anything? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I always thought they had some type of deal where they couldn't do anything else because i've been inviting myself y'all want to have a conversation we can get on platform you could even be y'all shit but no joe get joe out of it i don't want your daddy here okay yeah and they never did it now they're forced to sink or swim everybody's giving them the credit saying oh my god they're they had to do it why didn't they do it before they didn't have to though they didn't have to and what would they be doing they didn't have to and i'll be honest it's not this they'll go back to them they could have sunk you got to give them credit they're swimming but they're trying to swim it they're swimming because of the disappointment of joe but they're trying to swim yo it just because it happened out of desperation doesn't mean it doesn't count. I also have another point where it's like, if they truly felt like they were partners in this thing,

and they want to give their everything to it because they truly felt they're partners, I'm not mad at that at all. I think that that's admirable. Everybody's sacrificing their personal desires to build the band, right? You look at that band queen you know bohemian rap city that song that kind of shit it's like that one the lead singer queen he got the deal to go do the album by himself and then when he was writing an album by himself he was like man this shit ain't as fun i like being with the boys and yeah i'm the fucking lead singer

but it's more fun the thing that we built with the boys so if you want to put everything into that i don't knock you for that i understand where you're coming from in terms of leverage. But if you truly believe that you are family. I'm surprised you're even making this point just because of this. Being someone that I've seen you do a million skits. This is outside of brilliant idiots. Yeah, 100%. I've seen you do so many shit on YouTube, on other shows.

I've seen you go to like, it wasn't even MTV, it was some other shit. It was Oxygen. I don't know what. You was on some shit. Oxygen. Music Choice. That shit was, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I've seen you do so much.

I've always thought of it like this. And I'm pretty sure you thought of it like this. I'm going to do things outside of this, hopefully to bring it back to the squad. Yes, 100%. And when you look at it, bro, them dudes are just showing up to a job. They never ever try to promote it back to the squad. 100%. And when you look at it, brother dudes are just showing up to a job. They never ever try to promote it outside of that. They weren't hustling and trying to make

the Joe Bud Podcast bigger. When there was a press run needed to make it for Spotify, Joe had to do it. Joe had to do all the legwork. Of course I'm gonna look at you like a worker when I'm the only one doing all these extra shit. Yeah. Is that not fair?

Y'all tell me that. No, no, no, no. I think it's a reasonable argument. Alex, come on now. I know you're getting paid, but come on, bro. I'm saying it's a reasonable argument, but I don't know what they were doing behind the scenes. They have stuff going on outside of just the podcast. So you can't say that they're not doing anything. They're just not doing stuff in front of the camera.

I'm just saying, by them growing their awareness and their public persona it also brings eyes to the show but he's saying they weren't doing anything to grow that they never did that i mean they all have something they did i would like a decent following there like here's the thing there's two ways to go about it one way is use the opportunity you have and then deliver the best content the best material like i remember when brilliant idiots was the only thing i had right i'm researching i'm getting ready to have my fucking argument i'm looking at all these videos

i'm reading i'm making sure that i can be the best that i could be 90 of shit we didn't even touch but just in case we touched it i want to be ready to go you know what i mean like this was fight night every single whatever wednesday we recorded or thursday whatever so if that was the approach to the pod i respect that if you own your pc that was the approach to the pod, I respect that. If you own your piece, I don't listen to the pod, so I don't know what their contributions were on the pod. But I hear what you're saying as well. Andrew, I'm a hustler.

You feel me? The reason why some of these people, they criticize me about my space or my role in hip-hop, is because ain't nobody can say I interned for them. Nobody can say that I was carrying their crate. Nobody can say I was doing bitch work. Nobody can say I interned for them Nobody can say I was carrying their crate Nobody can say I was doing bitch work Nobody can say I begged them for shit I literally came in and I built it

And I recognized an audience And I did whatever that audience wanted To try to increase that audience And the audience is the only reason why I'm here So I've been the hustler Of the hustlers to try to get to this point I'm going to give you another example Wayno was a dude just on Twitter

before he got on everything. Shout out to Wayno, man. I like Wayno. I love Wayno. When Wayno came on, and I told you, Wayno tell you, I told Wayno,

I said, Wayno, use this opportunity to hustle. Man, the next week I looked up, this dude is doing correspondence that made in America. Next week I look up, he's moving around, and that's a hustler. That's someone who I could tell, and at the end of the day, Next week, I looked up. This dude is doing correspondence that made in America. Next week, I look up. He's moving around.

And that's a hustler. That's someone who I could tell. And at the end of the day, he was doing all those things saying, hey, I hope y'all come. As I'm trying to build my own personal shit, come fuck with me at Everyday Show. He was trying to contribute. I don't think these dudes were. And maybe it's a little bit of hate, but I just think that's a fair and objective point. I think it's fair.

I think it's objective. I think it's objective. I think there's two ways to look at it. One way to look at it is just this is the platform where we all get something out of and then trying to find a way to get the most out of it. The other thing to look at is like, yo, this is something we're nourishing and trying to build together. So there's two different things. I think both are fair. I don't want to go, go, go.

Button it. Button it. I don't want to talk about this anymore. I really want to get to this Joe shit, man. Okay, go. I'm so mad. Go, shit, man. Okay, go. I'm so mad. Go, go, go, go, go. Because I don't see why.

I feel like if you could forgive these dudes for everything they've said about you. Yeah, yeah. I don't think Joe ever really violated to, like, if I were you, I would feel bad. Like, he gave you some straights, which I think you were the most objective during that conversation. I don't know if he said anything mean about it because you said he's Indian. Nah, he just said he was an Indian dude, man. That's like belittling him. What's wrong with being Indian?

He's proud of being Indian. He doesn't even acknowledge you as a person. He's not even giving you credit like you're one half of the show pretty much. Nah, I am the Indian dude. I love being the Indian dude. I'm the Indian dude. I think maybe he messed up

and he should have said, that's the Indian dude. That's probably what he meant. I maybe he messed up and he should have said, that's the Indian dude. That's probably what he meant. I guess that's what he meant. That's probably what he meant. He's like, the Indian dude. Nah, no way. Nah, because I'm sure what he meant was, that's the Indian dude.

Yeah. You know. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Why am I supposed to be upset at Joe? Son, he just went on a rant trying to make you look like a fucking racist.

Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why would you fuck like a fucking racist. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah Yeah, but that's been done like We know it's not the case We dissect that sure I think I think he definitely framed it in a way that was definitely attacking you and obviously there was some angle attacking not even something come on son no but here what i'm saying i think but i've told you this though yeah right i said yo maybe i don't know no no i did i did i texted you i was like yo listen i love what you're doing and how you're growing and i said there's me being someone who's grown an audience i've always recognized when there's a gap in in

entertainment and i always super serve that gap and i said i said rogan moved to spotify yeah i said hey a lot of the the things he talked about or even people he talked to that his audience were interested in yeah i think you've done a great job of taking that gap and i think you're you're you're going up the ranks and flourishing filling in that gap right now i wouldn't even dare to say oh that's some racist kick out like i think that's where you know i mean using the alex jones thing went off the rails. But I give you props for that. Now, here's the thing. I think what he was trying to say is that, which I think is just so unfair, right?

Because even though you did a show with Charlamagne, you're not married to be in, like, this hip-hop ecosphere. Like, you could branch out and do whatever you want. But that's what he was setting up. He was like, hey, we got to know you because of charlemagne and now you're talking to these other people who don't seem to be connected to the culture and some of them we might look at as anti what we got going on yeah i just i don't know what what what al it's just so hypocritical because he attacks him for speaking to alex jones but ti spoke to him and

he didn't say a word. And then two days later, his fucking manager is saying, yo, let's have Alex Jones on the podcast. Let's be honest with what Joe's doing. You're capping for him. Yeah, you're capping for him. I'm not capping for him. I'm not capping for what he said. I'm just explaining the angle that I

think he probably shares. Can we talk about relevant people? You! No, there's one argument there's one he's so hard of it there's one argument that joe can come at me for that's the only one and if you're a white guy that's it you just have to tie some sort of racism into it and then you're gonna get automatic support because your people have to support it you don't want to be the black guy that's defending the white guy when the other black guy calls him racist you know how fucking strong in in your integrity you have to be yo as a black man to go to the uh stephen jackson right now he's defending rachel nichols i know and

people probably killing him he's done exactly so it's like it takes a black dude that is super strong in their in their idea of who they are and not concerned of public persona in order to fend the white guy against racism for the black guy so it's a very easy trope that you could slide into anybody wants to criticize me of course you're going to criticize me through that lens especially if you're going to come from like joe's perspective but we heard it a million fucking times blah blah but um i think joe just wants alex jones on a podcast because he knows his views he just wants attention he gravitates to whatever the attention is i think my man sound like a an attention whore man yeah he is it's classic not whore thought maybe maybe an attention thought but no he's good at getting attention

the reason why i'm not a fan of joe is simply because like once i at least this is for me just with people in general like i value authenticity right. I think if you're an authentic person, there's some that I can be drawn to. And that's throughout any art form. I don't even care if your music isn't that good. If you're authentic, I can look past it. I don't care if your comedy isn't even the most pristine in terms of the words that you're using. But if you're super authentic, I love it. I'll gravitate towards you.

I think Joe is fraudulent as an entertainer. As a person, I don't know. But I see through the facade. And you can only fool so many people. You know, Trump had, he had like, you know, Hudson Yards, that area of Manhattan, right? He had that land for a while. I was talking to the Chris Voss is a CIA negotiator guy. And he had that land for a while. He just couldn't get anybody to develop on it, right? So Trump would use his name and then try to get these developers to build some shit. He couldn't get anybody to develop it because they didn't want to deal with Trump. Because Trump had basically worked with everybody in the city, fucked them all over.

And they're like, we're not working for you anymore. He sells that. And then all of a sudden Hudson Yards explodes. And now you have all this shit over here. And I feel like that's the type of person that Joe is. Where it's like he's just going to continue fucking over the next person the next person the next person the next person and then you run out of people to fuck over

and when you run out of people to fuck over now you're in a dire situation where you're struggling and you'll say anything you possibly can and jokes aside that's what's happened to him that's why people are with Rory and Maul because it's like yo he's going to do right by these dudes you can say what you want he fucked over whoever but those are his boys I believe in him he won't fuck them over then when it seems they got fucked over and

they had then everybody's like oh okay that's who he is and they stuck with him through that and i ride with them for sticking with him i agree with that i agree like that's see that's not even that's fair i think he's in a position where that's what that's how the audience perceives you're smart because your business dealings with him you always had your autonomy so you're like yes i'm gonna use i'm not saying use in terms of like a bad way but like you're like i'm gonna use this guy's ability to create gravity and attention right he could create gravity attention motherfuckers want to talk about it right i'm gonna use him people are always going initially i don't know i peep game from early, but initially

they're like, oh, Joe is just going to capitalize on the fact that Act got all these fans. He's going to get all these fans and blow the podcast. But I'm like, no, Act is using Joe. Joe is going to say the wild shit. Act is going to be right there next to him. The show blows up. Act gets the people that Joe... Sure, you use each other, but nobody looked at it like you were using him.

People were looking at it like, yo, oh, Joe blew up off Act,bar and all these people. They never seen it before, so I was a little bit. I peep game. It's like you basically let the clown dance. You were like, tap dance. You let him fucking tap dance. You sat there the whole time, and you're like, have beef with the Migos.

Have beef with all these other motherfuckers. You take on all this beef. I'm going to chill. I'm going to collect these views. I'm going to talk about it on my reaction channels. I'm going to do all that shit. Keep on fucking dancing. And I think that's why you keep around because you like that

motherfucker to dance for you, bro. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. It's good content, man. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You're pimping too. You're pimping too, bro. You're pimping too. It's both ways, though.

But another thing. How? How's it both ways though But another thing How's it both ways What's he getting off of you You don't have business dealings with him I think what people look at me for Is the younger demographic Especially with hip hop You're the guy

And you're really smart And your business is on point And you found a dude who's willing to dance for you and you let that motherfucker dance right? hold on pick up the pieces

pick up the pieces pick up the pieces pick up the pizza. After Joe left Complex, that's one of the reasons I guess there's so much, maybe you can call it assault or whatever the case is. When he left Complex,

Joe, right? Yeah. Joe, he came to me. His name was Charlotte McKinnon. He was like, yo, you should do the revolt thing. And I'm like, okay, sounds good.

And we had light conversations over text. Me and Joe, you should do the Revolt thing. And I'm like, okay, sounds good. And we had light conversations over text. Me and Joe, we had a good amount of conversation. But I was sitting here with my lawyer saying, alright, when is Revolt going to come pull up to me and talk to me? Never happened. Complex came to me. You're not dancing for nobody.

And you know the keyword you said in that fucking sentence? With my lawyers. Lawyer is the keyword. If you don't got a lawyer, it's not your goal. Yo, yo, yo. You're, go on. Car Place came to me and said. You're Kaiser Sose, bro. Yo, yo, they said, here is the keys.

This is Kaiser Sose, bro. Whatever we have left, you can have it all. They said, here's the keys. Like, whatever we have left, you have it. And I said, I could follow Joe. Or keep your own shit. Or be here and also be the man of this, you know what I mean, this empire here. And then I started thinking, I'm like, no one at Revolt ever approached me.

Those same dudes killed me for it. They're like, oh, this dude's dumb. He don't know business. That's what they told me. That's what they said publicly. They said because, which probably, I would have probably had to sign to Joe. Sign to Joe to do whatever deal he had, right? Turns out

that would have been the same deal they were in. And you see how it turned out for them? Yeah, not that good. You're Kaiser Soze. Have you seen The Usual Suspects? No. You haven't seen that movie? Yeah, I have. That's why you don't like talking about you. I've been trying to ask you questions about you this whole time. You're not having it. You keep the heat off you like Kaiser Soze. He came in limping, I think.

I think he came in limping. Everybody think Ack is silly. Everybody think Ack is drunk on Twitch twitch just talking crazy you of course yeah you do yeah of course you love it because smart motherfuckers like to like it when people think they're dumb because that's another thing they used to say about they say yo they say oh why are you taking this kid who's just like drunk all day on twitch and and i had to send them dudes with it like me and twitch we had a really good you know you know you got, you know, you got a situation I know I got this situation. Yeah, it was early on when they were offering guarantees for it was multiple hours spent Yeah, it was multiple of what they were even getting paid by

Crazy about me like yo this dude looks crazy. He's just on Twitch and I and at that point I'm like These dudes are all mouth no business. I get offended because a lot of times when people don't like me, they can't give the credit you're giving. They can't be like, you know what? He's smart, though. He's doing the right thing. You know why? They're blind about it. Hey, so they're like, oh, we fuck him.

He's just drunk. He's just doing this. They can never see, hey, I've made really careful, calculated moves to get from where i was to get here i i first of all this is something about like us i think on the pod i think we do this pretty well but uh and i won't speak on behalf of you guys but like i don't care if like if someone hates me if i think you're good as shit i'll tell you simple as that i think there's so few people who are good that i can't not give credit even if you hate me or even if I hate you. If it's good, it's good.

Simple as that. But I like you. So this is very easy. But when it comes to – when it comes to like business and comes to knowing how to operate, I admire that you haven't asked for too much credit or respect. That you're like the money's coming in everything's flowing i don't need motherfuckers to sit here and say i'm the king yo yeah you know their biggest knock on me what is that they're like yo you couldn't get to sit at a table with jay-z that's her thing that like you want that i don't know well i don't know what it would bring so like

like they tell me like these things that i i'm like what is it but why would that why would you do you want in in in the industry apparently like at that point like you have like gotten to the epit like the heights of like being able to move shit around and they're like oh you're you're doing meetings with these people and i'm like i don't really care to but i don't know what i'm missing out on so maybe i'm missing out on some shit but i don't know but i don't get it but i look at it i'm like, I don't really care to. But I don't know what I'm missing out on. So maybe I am missing out on some shit, but I don't know. I don't get it. But I look at it and I'm like, if I got this far by doing

it my way and also being independent, relying on my audience, why do I need to play? They always tell me I got to play these industry games. A little bit of pimping. A little bit of pimping. That's a real pimp right there. A little bit of pimping, bro.

See? All you got to do is come in. If there's one thing you get from this podcast, A little bit of pimping. That's real pimp right there. That's a little bit of pimping, bro. That's good to watch. See? I got that shit. All you got to do is come over there. If there's one thing you get from this podcast, this is a shrewd operator. Yeah, dude. I knew you were smart as fuck.

What was his? We looked it up. What was his major in college? Biomathematics. Biomathematics. I didn't even know that that was a major, bro. I didn't know that was a major. It's a smart motherfucker over here,

and everybody thinks they got one over. I was in college, and I was like, yo, listen, I just can't turn up turn I look to college as a business from day by mathematics I'm like when immigrants come here we look at everything as we can't fuck around Yeah, so we're like so I'm like listen I'm gonna college my mom I remember when she bought me she bought me a $2,500 Like laptop it was a lot And she was like I'll do anything for your studies

Yeah I gotta make it I gotta make it So I went to college And I'm like I'm gonna be a doctor Not gonna lie I think the science

Was fucking me up a little at first The math I was nice at And then what happened is Second or third year Like I was like With my like counselor And I was like Trying to figure out

I'm like I did so many math classes, so many science classes. I was like, I don't think I want to go to med school. They combined it and there was one major that fit both

and it was like bio-mathematics. I'm like, let's do it. I'm like, do they get paid at least six figures? I had to.

I couldn't do less. And once I seen that, I had to do it. Here's what you have though that a lot of book smart people don't have street smarts. You are clearly book smart, and you are incredibly street smart. People would say I don't have street smarts. But that's exactly what we're saying is that's what makes you so street smart.

I think some of the reason you get hate, I've been thinking about this, is because you created a market that didn't exist. You found a void in a market that wasn't even there. Hip-hop TMZ, essentially. I figured out what it was and it's it's gonna sound foul but you gotta just feel me on it the cultural impact within hip-hop it is the closest i could think of is perez hilton do you remember what perez hilton did to the game when press came around and i'm not saying that in any belittling way because some gay dude is in Hollywood. What he did, he blogged.

I don't know if he identifies as he or whatever the fuck he is. I don't even know. But he blogged. Are you still here? No, I have no fucking clue. He blogged. All of a sudden, his Instagram and blog blew up. And then all of a sudden, he's ending up on TMZ.

He's an Hollywood reporter. And he was a personality. So it wasn't just this is the information. It's this is the information from this personality that we really like. That didn't exist in hip-hop. Adrian Wojnarowski or whatever, if you want to be whatever about it. What he is for the NBA. He fucks it up too.

Like the way he's almost, he could be his own site. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure he gets paid by, I believe he's with ESPN. He probably gets paid as if he could be his own site. And he's just a he gets paid by believe he's with espn he probably gets paid as if he exactly and just a guy that just had the inside track on all this stuff around 2014 i looked up and i like you know i always wanted to be i just wanted my banner in the rafters in terms of effect for what right really just effect i wanted at that point being a personality looked up charlamagne a lot and then i was thinking i'm like listen i the

breakfast clubs are the breakfast club how do i get to that level platform i want to be on radio in a premier market and what i realized times were changing if you're someone right now that want to get on radio nigga you are lost you know what i mean yeah and and it started changing for me because i saw beats one pop i'm like maybe it won't be like terrestrial radio maybe it'll be like you know some you know digital radio and then it turned to wait why are you caring about radio this and third build your own platform yeah the people you know what i did i built my own shit and i'm me on my own shit yeah you get me get me? So it was me also realizing the times and adjusting it. But honestly, I looked up to, you know,

Star, Charlamagne, Wendy, all of those people. I looked at them as like the super jobs. So let's talk about this then. Because I'm curious what you think it takes to become a superstar in hip hop. Okay. what you think it takes to become a superstar in hip hop okay and is being able to rap good even in the top five most important things yeah it is what is it rank it can't be one you think so to be a superstar i'm not talking about be good. I'm talking about superstar. Tekashi was a superstar. Okay, okay, okay.

Self-admitted, can't rap. Now I get what you mean. One of my favorite bars from him is when he was on the, what was her name? The Puerto Rican girl? Angie Martin. I'm getting on the show. Would you have him on the show? Who? Yes, 100%. I'm fascinated by him. You should show the goons on the show. Say what? The goons in the streets.

The streets probably watch you. We're not from the streets, guys. What? We're not part of the streets. He's wearing a fucking painter on his shirt, okay? Yeah, you have an ascot on. I have an ascot on. He was in the Hamptons. It's America's birthday still.

Yeah, he's from the cul-de-sac. I am from, no. I'm from the Manhattan streets. Okay, the avenues. We'll call them, I'm from the avenues. So, but he said, my my music is trash but it's hot trash do you remember that angie martinez interview it was fucking phenomenal uh and i wanted to talk about him but like he's a superstar self-admitted that i don't make the i think in the music sense rapping is always going to be

in there but i think you could get to it without that it's not if you have it's not necessary if you got if you have that charisma that personality um what most rappers and like i've had this conversation i was trying to sign sign this one guy because i was thinking i'm like yeah the real that personality what most rappers and like I've had this conversation I was trying to sign this one guy because I was thinking I'm like I have the real cheat sheet to the whole game like anyone who I put on my page where I talk about like everybody wants to go look at them like shit I'll just

start signing motherfuckers I'll just pick up like one of those stooges pick him up from the bus stop and just make him right and I was gonna turn your guy guy into the next Eminem And he was close This guy's stupid Tell them how you say you let them use the studio if they clean it

Oh my god Yo I kid you not I woke up in my house one time And I see this dude He looks exactly like Rory. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cleaning my fucking pool. I thought I was like, fuck.

This is some real godfather shit. So you got a white pool cleaner? Yes! You made it. All right, listen, listen. This is some Forrest Gump shit. I'm just trying to tell you. Yo, I keep telling everybody, listen.

Maybe that's when he was dropping off as a cleaning flyer and somebody else dropped off a thread and then that's where you got confused i'm gonna be honest with you and that's the thing i keep telling people man this independent shit that i've done is treating me well i didn't know other people weren't you know i mean reaping the fruits of their labor yeah yeah okay but these days i'm realizing it and i'm sorry. Like, I should have, you know what I mean, kept, owned your own shit, built your own shit, not relying on other people and relying on other corporations who could just terminate you when they want to.

It's no problem. You should work with corporations, but make sure you got your own shit. Yes. Because you know what I got going on? I'm pretty decent. Okay, so back to building a superstar rapper. Okay. So, a superstar, now, you can get around it. Okay, so a superstar rapper, now you can get around it.

I think you can get around it. You can get around it, but you won't ever be in that conversation of being the best. And if you don't care for that, Okay, if you don't care for that, if you just want success,

like there are certain people, and again, I always like these things in comedy because that's my expertise, right? I don't have fucking rap to save my life, but I look at them

and I go, okay, how would I feel? Now, there can't be a comedian that's a superstar that's not funny. That's not funny, right? I don't have fucking rap to save my life, but I look at them and I go, okay, how did I feel? There can't be a comedian that's a superstar that's not funny. That's not funny, right? But there can be comedians like Andrew Dice Clay is Takashi, if you will, in terms of ascended to the highest highs of entertainment, but

not necessarily the funniest joke writer in the world, but he was such a character. Did he have a shtick? He had a shtick. He had a little bit of a shtick. Larry the Cable Guy had a sht was such a character. Did he have a shtick? He had a shtick. He had a little bit of a shtick. Larry the Cable Guy had a shtick. Larry the Cable Guy had a shtick, right? So there's these guys that they reach the highest levels.

They don't want to be thought of as the greatest artistes. They're not the fucking Kendrick Lamar's of the world, but they still could go to the highest level, right? Yeah. Change their lives, change their families' lives. And I look at the rap game in a similar way. Even Jeff Ross, who's a really good roaster but like i don't think jeff will go yeah i'm as good as dave chapelle at stand-up he'd be like i'm great at roasting and i've got a fun cool personality that exists within that in comedy is stand up the the um the grade grading area of like funniness yeah or is it like skits?

Is it stand-up? So people judge you. So if you are nice at stand-up, you're just automatically you're ascending to the top of the list. To put it in perspective, nobody thinks Key and Peel are funny. In a comedy sense? Let me add a caveat. Nobody would go, yo, who's your favorite comedian?

And then say Key and Peele. Key and Peele are great at sketch. They're fucking brilliant. They're amazing. So funny. When you go, who's my favorite comedian? Like they don't even enter.

Because if you can't go up there and do it alone, if you can't go up there with nothing, just you and the audience and do it alone, you're not in the conversation. Nobody thinks Key is funny or Peele is funny.

They think Key and Peele are funny. The sketch show is great. And they think the guy who does the movies is brilliant. He's brilliant. Not hilarious. Peele. I wonder what you guys think is funny. They think Key and Peel are funny. The sketch show is great. And they think the guy who does the movies is brilliant. He's brilliant. Not hilarious. Peel. I wonder what you guys think about this.

Jordan Peel. Jordan Peel is brilliant, this guy. I wonder what you guys think about this. I don't know if you're in tune with all these guys. There's been a lot of Instagram comedians. But for example, DC Young Fly, I felt like he popped off there. Raw funny. He's hysterical.

Raw funny. And I think he's doing real good on stand-up. He's a center, right? He just started doing stand-up. Yeah, and he's good already. Than two other people, right? I remember seeing you might laugh at me at the gym, but Fatboy at first. And I was like,

I think this is just a stick. I know him. He went to the breakfast club and he was like, where's the breakfast? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think this is just a stick. It doesn't matter. I know him. He went to the breakfast club and he was like, where's the breakfast? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think a lot of people could see that and be like, yeah, that's not going to keep going up the comedy ranks. But there's this new dude, Drewski. Yeah. I think he's doing a lot of skits.

Yeah. But I still, I'm looking at him. I'm like like is this only could he survive if this is all he does where it's kind of a shtick but he's really good at skits but I don't know if he could get on stage with a mic with 1500 motherfuckers

in the audience and fucking have them just like just stringing them on and have them just break out in tears laughing nobody can unless you're an expert at this especially if you're doing it for an hour but let me ask you a question yeah um he could put in the time like i'm sure it needs to get there because right now no he doesn't it's a different game it's like you said like i wouldn't say that comedy is antiquated because at the end

of the day it's like motherfuckers still want that person-to-person experience the same thing with like you know seeing a concert they want to see that in real life, feel that energy, watching the basketball game live. Without doing it, Jordan Peele and Key, they became superstars. I don't know if they're superstars. There's a different thing with stand-up, bro. I'm telling you, it's a different thing.

Peele in the director world is going to be a titan. Yeah, he's a genius. In a comedy sense though is he nah he was funny bro i always thought he was the funny one out of them too he's a genre bender in his films though like get out is a type of like comedy horror like and that's very i guess i guess what i'm saying like if you look at it like guys who are real lyricists like a kendrick right you know what i mean there's a there's a group of comedians that you're like, okay, we aspire to be nice as fuck with the bars, but we also aspire to be successful enough where we could be in the conversation.

The best rapper, like bar for bar, isn't even in the combo. Right? Like he's some rapper that maybe you know about maybe and you're like, wow, this guy's brilliant. But his beats are trash. He got no personality. He's better off writing for people I know who he is Everybody's talking about him

Except like a couple backpackers Who who who Now I want to mention his name Because I'm dissing him now Alright fair enough But again it's not on him You're basically saying like Yo the part of comedy

Or rap that you're really good at Is not the full package But like Kendrick is a full package guy Like maybe some J. Cole people put full package Like back in the day I'm older but like Biggie was a full package guy.

It was personality. You never saw a big dude acting like this. Like, so you have this personality mixed with bars. Story. Yeah. So, I think. Pock. Like, gravity, bro.

You need to be around him. He talks, you listen. Like. I think personality is more important to get there, but to stay there, you need the skill. So all the superstars that are still around are because they're good. You gotta have both to be a superstar. Like all the other ones that just had the personality

that weren't as good, they fizzle out. But to his point, you can burn white hot, fizzle out, but still make fucking tens of millions of dollars. Larry the Campbell guy was getting 500,000 a night through you saying that. Yeah. Yeah, you can still like, Takashi, for example, he can still do shows, but he's not really

popping no more. So you can still get money, but I'm just saying he's never going to be considered a superstar the way, like, we look at Drake. But even to that point, though, like, you know, and maybe I'm just shooting him some bills because he's my homie, like, he got black ball, though. Who? Like, 6'9". 100%.

I mean, but he did it to himself. It's not like it's, like's like natural organic fizzling out like we're over the shtick it's like the industry came together and said we hate this motherfucker and and we're talking about blackballing on a level of where dsps are like yo if he drops music we're gonna just act like he don't exist we're gonna just be his digital service yeah like apple music of course like he drops music there's a whole new music list like people play this for a new radio yeah people open up their apple music and as much choice as your ones like pass me the aux most people 85 when they get on their fucking phone

they just hit a playlist they think they're making a choice but really they're making a choice out of a set list that someone else created are you really making a choice, but really they're making a choice out of a set list that someone else created. Or you're really making a choice, right? So they realize, yo, we don't got to. Kaiser Soze, bro. Smart guy. We don't got to put everybody up in this joint. People who we think are just morally corrupt or whatever the case is, we'll get them the fuck out of here. The industry wants nothing to do with him.

He's not on any of those lists his music he had one number one and it was just he was white lightning hot yeah when he just came out of jail right and afterwards he's been down yeah for music yeah and he's not gonna get support so that's the only reason why i look at i'm like yo i think that shtick could have continued why did blackball him why do you think you be for too many people yeah so he understood and again i'm fascinated by this dude as like a case study because i think he exposed so many things right like also yeah like he's just funny but like he really it seemed like and again i'm an outsider so i'm curious your perspective like and i also think you played a massive part in this it there was the artist and then there was the promotional outlet and they were intertwined

and like he would do something and you would make it go viral and all of a sudden it was viral over here as well it was like it's it's part of the reason why i believe my platform is hated by a lot is hated by a lot because before i was a fringe outlet that can that contributed to the noise for one singular moment and one singular artist i was the platform that broke and maintained the hottest artists in the world and when they saw that that you could circumvent every other thing yeah i mean labels still come to me now like they pitch artists me all the time They're like they ask me to hang out with motherfuckers Yeah, yeah Like because they want to recreate it and um, yeah

I understand that part and of course like again who are they asking you to hang out like random people like who like? I mean, I wanna like you can't say. I mean, I could say, like for example, every league when someone's album's coming out yo, you want to play video games with them? Yo, you want to, like, don't bring them into my arena. You get me? Yo, you want to you know, go to the city and like walk through their hood?

You know what I mean? It's like, I'm usually like, no. No. No, not that guy. Like that guy literally his best friend got shot last week why the fuck would i go walk the same walk i'm not doing this you know what i mean so uh like i i understand and to your point of like a shrewd operator like of course i hit these motherfuckers over the head like you don't get the cribs and shit i got going on it unless you realize how important you were in that moment and then forever and continuing you pimp that out i do pimp that out just like how you pimp out sleep stop that out man i got you so this was the perfect deflecting

but he knows who he pimped yeah i know what i pimped see i know what i pimp people out but i hit these motherfuckers over the head but not takashi because i feel like it was like no i feel like you guys both had this moment that happened together, each in your individual fields. But those individual fields required one another to reach the superstardom. Right? Like, he needs the promo. You need the things to promote. If no rappers are doing nothing, you got an easy day on Instagram, right?

Yo, here's the thing. The way how you think, right? In terms of like, and you referred to like Joe as Trump. 6ix9ine is more like Trump. We did a whole piece about it. Yeah. We literally did. Remember that shit?

We did a whole piece about it. Yo, I kid you not. I, like, I'm cool with his label. They spent zero on marketing. Like, he's the marketing. He was doing everything. Son. Like, to the point where I know, I could call his label right now and be like, yo, could you

have a Lambo outside and probably a private jet and they'd be like, oh, of course. They love me. Because it was such a mutually beneficial thing. I never even charged. I'm like, I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that is priceless. Every single day he was dominating the news cycle.

I remember having a conversation with him. I said, listen, the um rap for any type of rapper right like in terms of how they move two weeks before their album and the week of their album they get all the attention to do press runs their beef and whatever the case is a month later they're quiet as a motherfucker as a church mouse and they're touring they're collecting the bags yeah they don't keep he stays in the news cycle... All the time. 24 hours a day, all around the clock. And how calculated is that for him?

Is he waking up in the morning going, okay, how are we going to affect the news cycle? It used to be super calculated. I think he's in a rut right now. No, before. Before. I'm talking like in your guy's heyday, was it like we wake up in a hotel and you're like...

Well, most of the things who i ended up getting blamed for a lot of things like he's he's he could run a newspaper like i'm gonna tell you how just methodical and this is where people don't realize people it looks organic yeah and it is organic but a lot of because you were a rapper to him he fucking understands it he was a cameraman he was just running He was a cameraman He edited all his videos Till he went to jail Son once we

Every Remember when he got kidnapped He was editing the video With Nicki Minaj Son once we Yo he told me the story Yeah Cause he was just

Play this Imagine being one of the biggest Superstars in the world Yeah And the label's probably like You could have like You know for like A Drake

They were like The budget for the videos Right For six nine he could have probably commanded a budget of like three hundred thousand, right? Yeah you know what he would do just him and his two homies they grab a camera and Probably the props and where they got they're gonna film in a hood somewhere, right? It probably be like twenty thousand dollars like that, that's even a lot. Just keep the rest.

I don't even think he was even thinking about that. I think he was just asking the label. The label was like, wait, you only need like $10,000? Okay. Like, this is the cheapest thing we ever paid for. Yeah. I think Nicki comes to one of the joints, and I think she was like, yo, whoa, no.

She's a queen. course she's like no not by doing your hood videos get the fuck out of here get this production value up and math back i need a bunch of jets you know i mean which is which is dope you know but he's always had that approach of it's almost like a youtuber that did music yeah he used to call me every day it would be almost like yo i'm posting at 3 o'clock. Make sure you grab it from my page and post it. Yeah. Repost it, right?

His thing with 3 o'clock is analytics. That's when the kids are out. That's the time throughout the day it's most active. Yeah, yeah. Well, the kids finish school. Yo, most of these rappers who are promoting their shit, they put up a preview at 3 a.m yeah they don't even care it's 3 a.m i'm in the studio i'm drunk and high fuck it let's you guys check it out he was careful and meticulous enough to say hey yeah how do i work all this instagram social media shit to my advantage well think about it think about the time

kids let's say you post something at 12 the kids can still see at 12 they can't share with their friends they can't comment they're trying to hide their phone in class they're maybe running the bathroom to do it at three that's when you get the algorithm pumping everybody's out of school they're passing all around you want to be part of this thing that's going viral you're creating your own content based on it as well i mean you have that freedom because you're probably not with your parents just yet studying so there's that little gap once we found out he edited his own shit because we're in the fucking trenches with creating content right like so once once we found out he edited his own shit it flipped my whole perspective on him and i was never someone

who's anti him i was i was super impressed by the way that he could like galvanize people's attention and there's a lowbrow way to galvanize which is beef beef is low brow beef is like you want to hear a crazy story all right go go go go but i want to create a caveat before i criticize just like beef is low brow in the same way that like mafia movies are low brow like it's easy to get me interested in mafia it's easy to get me interested in selling drugs you know you make a movie about fucking potatoes and you make it really good that's impressive you know what i mean that being said it's what you do around that and that motherfucker knows content and more most importantly he knows how people react to

content yo all right goes crazy so this is in the midst of the beef everybody wants to kill him one week he's beefing yg the next minute he's beefing somebody somebody else in New York, Casanova. He's going crazy. By the way, so surreal and crazy to me, he's living in Brooklyn just on the same street. It's crazy. Anyway, we kick it one day. You just want to move about? You weren't like... I told him, I said, bro, you got to come to Jersey.

I want to show you higher living. You're getting way too much money. But for whatever reason, that was just... And I don't know um for people who grew up in a certain environment maybe that just still feels at home you don't want to like and also you might not even think that's struggling you know i mean like now he's used so much a higher living but like before it was just like i'm comfortable like here yeah like even when he got kidnapped he was across the street from a from a park it was like they're playing basketball all day like

how the fuck do you go in and out of an apartment building and it wasn't like a high rise just like it's like a two-family apartment anyway i kicked away with him one day and like we went to like the mall or something like that and he's surrounded by all these gang dudes and i always respected him because while those elements were around he knew like that's not me and he always made sure it was like all right cool y'all chill over there i I'm going to just go kick it with Ak. That's how we build a real relationship. And we're kicking it, whatever, whatever. And even then, like, they're following us to the thing.

They got all type of cars. He's like, nah, I'm riding with Ak. And we're driving. Like, I have my car at this time. It's some convert. It wasn't. It was a coupe, right? He brings his backpack, whatever the case is.

We go to the place. And I remember we got separated. Or, like, he had to go with them somewhere and i did he calls me later and said yo i have a video dropping tomorrow i need to edit it i left my backpack in the fucking car and i'm gonna be honest with you the whole time i'm sweating bullets i'm gonna tell you why everybody wants to kill him i'm thinking he he probably have all type of illegal guns. I don't know what he got in his backpack. But I'm like, yo, I always thought, I'm like, yo, what type of kid is this? Because he presents to me a certain front and we're cool.

And he's very organic in it. He seems sincere. But sometimes when I see him beefing,ing i'm like this guy look like he either got a death wish or he knows something i don't know right yeah and i'm looking at the bag and i'm like should i open this motherfucker and check this out because i'm like it's no way it's no way he's talking so crazy yeah and in this bag he don't got at least five guns he got to and i'm like this is early on in a relationship. It is early It's early, but I'm like yo, but everybody wants kill. Yeah So I'm like hi should I oh I'm like I feel like I'm kind of in vain this privacy type of shit like that and

I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna come bring the bag early in the morning to where we live and I Go to the car and I see the bag and I'm like nah,, bro, you should just stay out of whatever you got going on. Just drive it. And another mind says, you are kind of cool. You need to know. I can open the bag. I open the bag.

And when I look at it, it's a fucking hard drive, a computer, like a couple sticks of gum. That's it. I swore There were gonna be guns in there Cause I'm like It's no way you have Everybody wanted to kill you And you don't have

Like he was like Super carefree Like alright cool And I'm like You have to have a bunch of guns in there And I'm thinking like These guns I might get pulled over

These guys Like these guns Might have bodies on them Like this is the Trayway guns Oh my god I'm freaking out And I open it i'm like

oh it's a fucking apple laptop 369 bro he's out no i'm saying free him from the dsps and like let him have his shit back okay so what did he know what were you gonna say i just don't think it it was a full black ball because i think the fans also lost faith in him similar what happened kind of with Joe it's like he but he put a message out as like I'm gangster and like to an extent I believed it because like he was talking that shit he had dudes that were about it and maybe he wasn't doing it but if you roll with dudes that are doing it like you kind of accomplish but the moment he gets in trouble he sells him out so now it's like the thing that I liked you for i no longer believe it and so it's like i can't hear the music to say there came the biggest question because i used to talk to him in jail and i said yo you're gonna get

out and the streets ain't gonna fuck with you and i remember him saying listen i had my reasons if they can't accept it it it's going to be whatever. Yeah. But I have a completely different audience that don't give a fuck about that type of shit. And it's true. Like, I went to a show. You would think they were looking at me like it was his. Like, they didn't care who he told on.

You know what I mean? Oh, my God. Like, they look at the pretty colors and they love it. Hold on. You know what I mean? Oh my God. Like they look at the pretty colors and they love it. And that's where I was saying, I don't think you might look at it because the quote unquote streets turn their back on him.

Like maybe you won't listen to him making that type of music and be like, oh yeah, we believe it. But there's a whole different audience that loves it. Like keep in mind, he dropped an album while being blackballed and still sold 50 some thousand. They blackballed Tory and respectfully, I love Tory. Tory's not selling records. When they hit you with that blackball and they take off those playlists. It's hard.

To give you the equivalency, if the industry had supported that album that sold 50-some thousand, he would have sold at least 220. But I mean, there was rumors he was using bots break that down that's almost superstar numbers that's superstar numbers no no where are you getting down like yeah how do you get count your break that map because about 80 i keep saying around 80 percent of plays from an audience numbers are based on plays is driven by playlist so if he was supported it would be at least four times the amount here's the thing his numbers without it was still strong enough to still appear it looked weak because you're looking at a superstar but for anyone else it's not going to be there so that's what i'm

saying he could exist maybe it's not the audience like if you go into the fucking hood you're probably gonna hear his music but if you go to like a lot of these places that that have a lot of hispanic people that i learned a lot about demographics i went to a lot of shows that he did the demographics is wild mexicans love him they love yo we we performed right near i remember we we went there and they're like the reason we have like i'm like did you have like 300 cops because of six nine they're like no the cartel just had no like, we just had like, there's a cartel war. Like, not too long ago. Like, right there.

I'm like, huh? We're probably in the wrong place with the world's most famous. Hold on. Anyway, we go and perform. Sells out the whole fucking venue. All Hispanic kids. A couple whites in there, too. Not much blacks.

But I get to realize, I'm like, shit, you could sustain a career off of that audience. It won't be your conversation piece. But are the numbers real, though? Because there was a little speculation he was using bots. The numbers got to be real when you get 7,000 people in the arena. In Hidalgo, Texas. That's the other thing. It's like,

tickets at the end of the day. Are you selling tickets? Do people leave their crib? But yeah, maybe he is using the bots. I guess the bots were to inflate the YouTube numbers or something like that. Everybody uses bots. Let me put this to bed. Teach us about bots. No, no, no.

I don't use bots. I didn't learn that. No, you don't want to use it for your regular YouTube channel. It's going to fuck up what you got going on. What I'm talking about is the music industry. The music industry has always been let's make the fans think this is hot and that they now like fans is radio when they play a song 20 times a day it's called radio programming you're programming the mind of a stand or like someone who's impressionable yeah so you need to make them think no one wants to

support the thing that no one's fucking with. Yeah, of course. But if it's like, yo, this shit did 20 million a day. Yeah. You know what kids are going to be like? Yo, this shit's hot. Yeah.

And every label puts at least, at least 10 to 15%. And I would speculate, this is just me, between 10 to 15 to 30. Now, the ones who go wild and get like 70 to 80 is clear. You could tell them,

no, this is all fake. And that's where they fuck up. Like who? I mean, I think at times, I think French Montana did it. Really? Or his label did it for him. So he might not know. I think Soulja Boy did it one time too. Really? I don't know if he did it. Again, I'm saying the artists, but I don't think they're doing it. It's their labels. Which song? I remember Soulja Boy did it one time too. Really? I don't know if he did it. Again, I'm saying the artists, but I don't think they're doing it.

It's their labels. Which song? I remember Soulja had a song. It had like 4 million views and like 40 comments. It was wild. That's when they were buying the comments too. You got to do the whole package. You got to buy the views, the comments.

The likes probably. I know someone who does that shit For labels and artists I won't expose what artists and labels And some of them is just smaller artists Trying to seem bigger And the dude is like My fingers fucking hurt

Because I have to type comments As like 50 different people You have to type all those comments You get me? And again it's cool if you're not wild enough, but if you see rapper A with 5 million views, you're like, we never heard about you. Right?

So usually labels, they gauge it. People think this video should do about 100,000. We're going to make it seem hot. It's going to do around 200,000. But we're going to put extra comments in there in the center. That's how they do it. You know? Shit. It's all there in the center. That's how they do it.

It's all about manipulating the audience. And Tekashi was a master at it. I'm not saying in terms of that, but of course... Without bots. What does Tekashi understand about people that the average person doesn't? That's a good question. I don't think it's what he understands about people. Oh, actually, you're right. And he understands,

I think he understands about the industry and people. Okay. People primarily want the bullshit. They want the bullshit. They want the bullshit. Okay. They don't want this. They want to get on Instagram

and watch it crash chaos logical nuance fuck all that they want to know and that's why I mean shit I took a page out of this book

that's why when we started this I said listen fuck all this background question bio-math let's get straight to the beef let's get it off top I was going to ask you

if Tekashi influenced you because you I got pissed real bad when I'm asked this question you will go at okay bet alright guys we're going to take a break for a second.

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akash letters man what's up with y'all man it's me it's me bro he's got anything every 90 minutes i gotta pee no i think i just small penis small bladder it's all small what you gonna do here's my question yeah i noticed is this something you picked up from takashi going at all these rappers and essentially being like you ain't gonna do shit like when you went at meek he was doing it first you went at were you doing that first or was that no i'm gonna be honest i've always had like but it was more of a it was more of a challenging dialogue right i think now you know i mean like i just don't realize how stupid it is. That's what society exposed Like they ain't gonna do shit. That's what I'm asking

He definitely supposed yo I used to think these dudes were killers I'm like you a nigga like me gotta have like 40 bodies. Nobody knows about his buried somewhere like in Oklahoma This guy's yo you hear he's rapping. He's the Then you see these dudes like swing, like you see the punch in the bag. You're like, hold on, this is not a killer.

No, he's a shooter though. You gotta be a shooter. This guy's, this guy's a killer. And then you realize like, yo, in reality,

all the rappers who are killers, they go to jail like really quickly. Like, everybody else really considers themselves as a brand. And, working in media, you start seeing how fake this shit was one of the first times meat mill ever, you know Him and his team got mad at me. I posted a video. This is how much they want to keep their gangsta image I posted a video of meat mill in the hood, right? He goes back to Philly after a while

There was a big-ass block party. I guess, I don't know, a shot fired or something like that. Someone sent me a video of six armed police officers, off-duty, of course, who were working security for him, with their guns drawn, and they have him in the middle like he's fucking Trump or fucking Biden. like he's fucking trump or fucking biden and i posted i said hey meet uh a meat mill being being um secured by his security after you know there was like a fight or whatever the case is they hit me yo take that damn take that and i'm like wait what now they gave me the most bullshit reason oh nah it's probation it's probation i'm like y'all on instagram the whole time showing y'all at the location why

can't this part be shown the facade that they're giving you is that these dudes are killers yeah for six nine to still be alive after this long says something right um there's some credibility to what you're saying but at the same time know it's not all fluff because you do keep your location secretive for that purpose so they can't catch up to you. No, no. Hear what I'm saying though. The people and the elements... You don't tell people where you live.

No, but I'm talking about he won't even geotag where he's at or stuff like that because he knows people are looking for him. If you walked in Philly right now... What you're talking about aren't rappers yeah but you know you know that's that's what he exposed though he exposed he didn't like even when i know people are saying he exposed chicago nah it's not chicago he was trying to expose the chicago rappers he was trying to expose particular rappers and what people don't want to admit in

rap is that these dudes are multi-million dollar brands. Yeah. And they rap like they're murderers. And they act like they would throw it away for nothing. Yeah. They won't. That's a part of the brand. It's like, hey, listen, whether, and to be honest, you get to a certain level, like Meek Mill could roll around with 30 people. Like, yeah, if I have no security and I run into Meek Mill with his 30 paid goons, it might be a problem. Yeah, yeah.

But am I really, like, thinking Meek is a killer? He's not. Do you think Meek Mill is a killer? Let me ask you a question. I do think he did stuff in his past. He has a situation. Okay, he's a multi-million dollar rapper. We don't care about his past.

That sounds cute. He went to jail. He went back to jail for a wheelie and then he started crying. Now he's free. Wow, boy. I'm being honest with you. No, no, no.

I feel you. i had to evaluate i had to like there's a point where i realized for a week the moment the moment i realized that what you're scared of with rappers i could also do bro you think i don't got the same amount of money to have 30 people walk around and go every single place with me no i feel that but i'm saying you know how it's not we would be calling the rappers stupid if they're out doing the stuff that they're rapping about but their goons around them is the people who are supposed to take care of that so it's like there's gonna be somebody who just wants to get meek's mill favor and be like yo i got act

and he won't even be meek's man but he'll just stall off on you and be like yo meek i got him for you okay like you know that could happen now No, you're right about that. But I'm supposed to be scared of me most of that. I can happen anyway I could say something about any rapper and I don't even know the person has a problem and then That's super fan It's not what I'm trying to say is that No, no fans. Let me as fans are scared of the rapper. You're scared of that rapper.

Yo, yo, the guy who works for Meek doesn't want to lose his job either. Especially not for catching a body for what academics are saying. Meek don't want to go back to jail just to smack him up. Neither does the security guard that gets to fuck bitches on the side with Meek. That gets to tour around the world with Meek. That gets to go to Sixers games with Meek. You think he's risking all that to shoot at no meek is hanging with billionaires yeah it's a different world bro yo the only thing what i realized in terms of this industry yeah if i was beefing with some some hood niggas who really didn't have nothing to lose i would be

really scared i realize these things are brands and I know bro Robert I've literally been in a situation where I told my guy said please don't do nothing because they don't say I did I Don't move around like that. I don't want to body swinging on nobody on behalf of me. That's not my thing So when you have money power and influence and especially you're in hip-hop, there's all and you have an entourage That's the job of the entourage, but that's not so The best thing that you're scared of the rapper. That's not the case. There's no rappers They're actually still living like the group who who shy sees a jail Yeah, he was in the club somebody like apparently like pickpocket before the counter happens and he takes out a good pocket

Yes, he takes out a gun Like what I'm trying to say is that oh, yeah, the only the idiotic rappers are still operating like they're goons. And 6ix9ine did help expose that. And that's why the casual fan, I think, loves him. Because the casual, right? Not the person who's from the streets. The person who's not from the streets wants to believe that all those people talking that street shit that they're intimidated of are lying yo don't you want to believe that the people that you're scared of are full of shit yo you hear what i'm saying i remember because i

used to i was trying to talk him down out of many beefs like yo please don't but again he's using these beefs like tokens right it's not no but real. No, no, no. But he's also, he's like, yo, stop thinking everybody's these killers. And I think his perspective was he was rolling with a bunch of dudes who literally were trying to kill people. And I think he was like, hey, I'm in this young part of my career, and I see the risk of actually having these people around. Like, for example, I remember telling him, I said, yo, first of all, it's a conflict of also interest. I'm like, yo, I love Chief Keef. Please leave Chief Keef alone. Don't beef with Chief.

Also, the internet narrative is that Chief Keef is one of the most ruthless humans on Earth. Yeah. Is he? Now, here's the thing. For him, he's like, what? Chief Keef came to New York and this is all documented in court he's still talking about it it's cool his dude shot at Chief Keef

he's like if he's a ruthless guy we're shooting at him what's going on and then I think for the fans they're like wait how does this happen and I do think that's what i was saying about rappers certain rappers are like that but most rappers they're brands bro and and i know listen to a gangster rapper rap gangster music we want to be so married to the lifestyle that

you think they're doing it you forget that they're managing a multi-million dollar brand that only a few and only the stupid ones would jeopardize like yeah i don't disagree and even i wouldn't jeopardize my bread like you think if meat mill was really a killer meat mill would have been done something i'm telling you but if he did he would jeopardize everything he got going on so what i'm saying even the ent not tough. But even the entourage point, real quick, even the entourage point, if you got, using his word, a multimillion-dollar brand, you can't have an employee. What happens when an employee says some shit that's a part of Nike?

They cut that motherfucker loose. You can't do that around me. You got to have your shit tied if you're in my entourage. Yeah, you need professional intel. Yes. No, what I'm just speaking to is that it's not tough for Act to call out Meek when he knows Meek's not going to do anything to him to jeopardize what he has. That's his point.

Yeah, but I'm saying it's not tough. Don't play this. That's his point. I could call out Meek. Hold on. That's not tough. Hold on. Yo, I could call out Meek.

I would never go to Philly and be like, yo, all y'all gangsters in Philly is pussy. No. Yeah. Never. Yeah. Ever. But Meek Mill don't even be in Philly. Never.

Yeah. Ever. But Meek Mill don't even be in Philly. Meek Mill flying around on private jets and helicopters going to Michael Rubin's house and goddamn, what's the other dude that owns the- Robert Kraft. Robert Kraft. Yeah. But I'm saying that rappers live and they benefit and profit off the facade, the perception.

Yes, in his previous life, he used to do a lot of those things Yeah yeah At this point coming out of jail Do you really think And I think that's the point Okay so I'm with you on that So 6ix9ine sees this He understands okay these guys are million dollar brands

And they have to operate like brands Like the street shit is I want to get in good favor Anybody who doesn't do that All go to jail like 6ix9ine did 100% If they didn't go to jail Ask yourself what are they doing Young boys I think in jail now right If he doesn't do that, I'll go to jail like 6ix9ine did. 100%. If they didn't go to jail,

ask yourself, what are they doing? Young boys, I think, in jail now, right? Anybody who does that, go to jail. Yeah. So if your favorite gangster rapper been rapping about killing people

for the last 20 years, and he don't even have a jaywalking ticket, he exposed that part of it. Okay, so when he decides to beef Is he simply going Okay I need to stir up the internet Let me start

Talking some shit about Somebody who says They're a super thug But I know they're not Yeah Simply That's it No no no

Or is it Is it more methodical No it's not Because You know He has a recent issue With Lil Durk And I hate him

Yeah Because you know One of my favorite rappers Is King Von And he passed away Yeah yeah And I consistently tell him I'm like my favorite rappers is King Von and he passed away. And I consistently tell him, I'm like, hey, first of all, King Von passed. You can't keep dissing him. What's your issue?

And I even told him, I'm like, maybe you do need a little bit of therapy because I think the beef at first was you just responded. And his mind is that I'm doing my thing but I've never just dissed you randomly I'm responding to you talking shit about me

I'm responding because you randomly said fuck me and because you just said fuck me don't get mad and 50 used to say this they look at 50 was like yo they look at me after i shoot the

motherfucker but nobody saw any stubble mushroom so and his thing was like don't judge the response when you didn't have the same energy for the person who kicked it off yeah and i think that's how he still views it um it's always i remember even with the dirk the Dirk thing? Explain Dirk So him and little Dirk I think there was pretty much almost no issue and Dirk was almost kind of in the middle when it came to his issue with Chief Keith and

all of a sudden when he gets locked up he's now labeled as a snitch you know Dirk chose he's like alright he he's gonna stay away clearly right dirt never really dissed him right but i think number one he signed king one king one rapped about him and it was like a rap it was like yo six nine said he seen it you know and i think he talked about him a couple times on live and i think for six now it was just like And I think for 6ix9ine, it was just like, hey, if you like me, just ignore me.

But if you comment on me and it's negative, we're going at it. And he went at both of them. And I think what happened, truthfully, I think Dirk took that energy and he blew up. Dirk's one of the biggest artists in the game right now. Yeah. And I told him that. I said, yo, he harnessed your energy he didn't respond to you yeah and at the moment when you were getting blackballed he got everybody yeah to support him yeah because it was the antithesis of you yeah

it's kind of like what happened with Rory and Maul and Joe. That's one of the reasons why this is going to be the last time I mention it. Unless I'm checking the accountant with my man Alex over there. We got to check the accountant. You got to check the accountant over there. Looking good? We got to check the accounting.

We got to check it out, man. We got to check the accounting, bro. He's a wild boy right here. In that little piss break, I gave him my email. We got to check it out, man. We got to check the accounting, bro. He's a wild boy right here. He's a wild boy, man. In that little piss break, I gave him my email. He going to send me the Excel spreadsheet. We got to look at it. We got to look at it, bro.

We got to take a look with the books. How much are they paying? We got to know. Like you were saying. As you were. I love that. People are going to be like, yo, you're making this Difficult for me man I got you bro

I got you Russ is the reason Why I have this Why Is it because Of the independent Independent angle I heard he was doing

A song a week And I was like I'm being lazy So I started putting out A stand up clip a week And my career Fucking exploded I have

I've told him He came on Brilliant Idiots I was like I owe so much of this to you. Unbelievable. What he did. Okay. He has diehard fans like bleed for him.

Fans. But you're MGK have those. And I just don't know his thing though. Yeah. Your admiration for Russ is literally because of Russ's work. And what he's done to build his audience. It's not because you see his talent level. You're like,

I get why. No, I fucks with the music. I heard a song and I didn't know he was done to build his audience. It's not because you see his talent level and you're like, I get why. No, I heard a song and I didn't know he was white and I liked it and I found out he was white and I stopped listening to it. It's a factual thing that happened. No, but seriously. Yo, we got diversity on his podcast. Yo, I like this.

Why rap a racist, dog? All day. I think it's one of those things where I went to a Rush show, and I'm kind of liking them to Rush because I remember not understanding Rush. And I'm like, I understand the independent working to build something aspect. You know, I've done that. But I couldn't understand who these motherfuckers were who liked this shit. You know what I mean?

You were looking for the demo. Like, what is it? I remember he was like, yo, sold out the Staples Center. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 12,000 people. I'm like, I got to interview one of these 12,000 people. I had to find them. I got to find them.

And it wasn't that, like, his music was bad. But I'm like, like, respectfully, like, I went to Uzi concert. It was like 3,000. like respectfully like i went to uzi concert was like 3 000 how is this motherfucker who in the culture we would say he's like miles beyond yeah doing way more tickets let me go see what that demographic is and i learned about demographic and i remember someone said something to me it was like hey number one he benefited from state on the road early In terms of rush Yeah Staying on the road early He was always He doesn't do what

Rappers do Which is I'm in a club every night I'm getting 20,000 And I'm just like With the DJ While I play my songs Yeah

He performs it He was like Not doing a club Book me to perform At your city Yeah And even though The person comes to the club

Or a different club in that city like five times and make five times more he's like no i'll take the l now and i'll come there once and do a rush show yeah yeah and it paid off for it all right guys we're gonna take a break for a second guys i'm telling you you need to get some new headphones you need to get some new headphones you need to get a quality quality quality quality pair, quality pair of headphones, and you're going to go with Raycon. I'm telling you, I use these guys. It's unbelievable. The sound quality, the battery life, that 24-hour battery life is amazing.

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no i'm i'm i'm married bro bro like pre that i'm married bro pre all that you know i mean come on you got me a different game when you invite them to the crib and you just happen to I'm married, bro. You know what I mean? Come on. It's got to be a different game when you invite them to the crib and you just happen to turn on Netflix and you're there. No, no, no. I was wiped out for all that shit. But I'll be honest with you and I'll say this as far as cheeks go. It's like

everybody's fucking I was Miami wiped out but everybody's fucking the same the same girls Put it that way That is true I got to a point You probably experienced this too It's like You

It's like You're like Why am I fucking The basketball player I likes girl I fucked a chick That Meek Mill fucked And the whole time

I was so paranoid I'm like This might be a setup Yo Yo But everybody's the same hoes Like everybody's fucking the same hoes Yo

I seen a chick A chick Like she She she quote unquote exposed me not too long ago. But, like, I think I had a threesome with her. Nigga, I seen her, which I think he's just dumb for it. Adrian Broner was eating around the back of a car. I'm like, what's going on out here in the streets? I'm like, yo, are we? It's like The female population Is like

That's what people Don't realize No no This is 100% serious It's like It dawned on me This is earlier in my success Obviously way before

My girl Yeah maybe Come on bro A.D.'s a legend bro A.D.'s a legend bro He's at like 5, 6, 10 He don't care

Yeah You fight for a living Fucking is nothing At least the tape bro I think he got some living fucking is nothing probably he's pushing ahead ever since like 12 years old he's been getting punched in the head non-stop but the point with these girls is like this is what happens is you reach a certain level where you have you start sleeping with these beautiful women right and then you realize all these beautiful women are sleeping with these famous people right and you're like oh i'm not as famous as them but wait why am i fucking their girl wait well oh there's the same girls there's a finite number of girls literally

i bet i bet you yeah under 1 000 women that every famous dude is sharing under 1 000 under 1 000 i guarantee now we're not talking about my athlete day and j-lo we're talking about the girls he grew in between j-lo and the other bitch my views of women have been um warped because of that because those women their earth like spins differently it spins like backwards okay like i like i'll share on instagram like for example right there was this Their earth spins differently. It spins backwards. Okay, go. I'll share on Instagram. For example, there was this girl on Instagram. She was on some podcast.

She was like, yo, listen. Yo, my ex still paid all my bills. Oh, I saw that girl. Wildin'. Wildin', right? Head gotta be stupid. Head gotta be stupid. Gawk, gawk. Gawk, gawk.

No, no, no. Gawk, gawk. The 4,000. The new one. The new joint just came out. Well, it gotta be head on demand then. Say what? It gotta be head on demand. The head is so crazy That like That you're still remembering it And paying the bill every month Yeah

The head is so crazy You're beating your dick Like that bitch Need her rent paid You're beating your dick To your memories This bitch needs cable yo You good

You got HBO Max What do you need That's how crazy it had gotta be 100% Or You were into some foul shit This is what I think that is You're into some super weird shit

That makes sense And she was willing to do it with you And she's gonna keep it a secret As long as you keep on paying the bills Paying for silence You like shit going in your ass You like shit going in going yeah they're gonna cut this they don't cut just this part you like shit going your ass i kid you not though i'm gonna be honest but i don't like you kid me not a girl who i've been with right and i almost i was there's a few women

who i've i always told i'm like yo I was your starter dick To the industry Like I was like the The first Semi Semi My dick was the A&R Yo

You are the greatest Influencer in hip hop Right I'm not like Soulja But come on But seriously Yo So I looked at them

And I said yo So You're telling me You're fucking Cause like this chick Came back and was like, yo, you think you're popping. Like, you know I'm fucking gonna. Young Thug. Name the bunch of it, right?

She named this one guy. She's like, yo, he did the weirdest shit with me. I'll just say he's an R&B singer. He said he. Drink. Nah. I'll put that on drink. Okay.

but she said he had me peg him and had me use a dildo to fuck him in the ass nope and if you listen to his music straight love boy shit and like to this day i always i always argue with him like you're lying who we think al i don't listen to enough R&B. It's going to be the commas. Who we thinking of? I'm not messing around. I want to call her a liar. Why lie? No, no. But there's 10 other girls with the same story by the same reason. Wow.

How famous a musician. Yo, how confident are you to have 10 women do that to you that none of these bitches are talking about? That's their advice. That's what I'm saying. So it looks like he's not paying the cable bill after he's done though. He got to keep paying them. Because Drake takes care of these girls

That's why you don't hear nothing Yeah His baby mama's never ever said a word She popped on Twitter for one day Like he ain't shit I was clicking on one of her videos And I thought the sound was off She was just mute

She was like She's not even on the show today I was like what the fuck Drake got this one good But the thing with the The Drake thing was Is quite interesting with him Because There's a level Okay There's street gangster shit just like with mafia shit everything

there's also a level of corporate gangster that people don't recognize the corporate gangster is way more ruthless because you affect way more people's lives like you want to talk about like put like the people in detroit that took those factories out of detroit and just decimated the city that's gangster on a level that doesn't exist in chicago you're talking about generations of families just being destroyed that's a different level gangster so with with drake i'm thinking it's like there's a different level because he's so intertwined with these corporations that it might be on some corporate shit. Like where it's just like, oh, if we're beefing, I'm not going to have you beat up outside of a club.

I'm just going to have your career just end. I'm going to take your livelihood. Yeah, your livelihood. Not your life. Your livelihood. I think the dope thing about Drake, and I've watched it, is that his influence and what he pays attention is all the way at the top. He'll be rapping about fucking sitting with the guy who pretty much owns the whole music industry, Lucian Grange. And then he'll still won't be big enough to sub some.

I'm going to say he's unknown because he probably has like 15,000 followers in a city. He'll sub him on a song and everybody won't even get it. But for that one guy and that whole city, they're like, yo, Drake just killed you. Yeah. Like, Drake just, like, there's this guy in Toronto. And, like, his whole thing is like, yo, you can't face me. Like, they talk a little weird there. And Drake said it on, like, I think the Lemon Pepper Freestyle.

And he was just like, yo, face who? Like, yo, I can face. And he just violated him. Nobody knows. But that guy knows. I'm like, how is Drake still tapping into shit like that like you're supposed to be this guy who's who's moving like companies with your words and shit like that but he still cares about well this is what i think is so impressive with him and why he's able to like maintain his status for so long

is that he basically births the next generation of artists and intertwines himself to those artists and now they're forever indebted to him because he's giving them their first number one so these so it's like it almost behooves him to pay super close attention to who the next generation is or the next type of music coming out like he was popping on the london shit for a minute obviously me goes everybody's like oh i want to do something with you and he'll use his influence not only to help himself but to help other people but by helping them now those people like yo drake's the man like he he made me a millionaire drake made me a million how could i not love him i've always said drake is the best a and r in the game son yeah this motherfucker like every on everybody early. Migos early. Lil Baby early.

Lil Dirt early. He's on an interesting point. I text Mark this the other day. I go, maybe it was a couple weeks ago. I go, yo. I go, how do I do an album with another comic? Like, I could bring comics on my podcast. I could, you know, and we put different comics on the podcast and really kind of.

I think Dre be rocking these motherfuckers to sleep. I think he saw Futures Wave and Futures had a future hive. And he was like, hold up, I'm B4Meek. I just dropped like a project that's good. Yo, Future, let's tag team. Let's do an album. Let's go on tour. And then he's like, I think he's always looked at it like, yo, I'm going to ride your wave.

And I know your wave. Your wave won't be as long as mine. So instead of being. I think that's a selfless thing though Selfless Cause when usually people see Yeah When people see competition

They're like Fuck you People create the fuck you It would be like Yo Andrew There's a new dude He's funnier than you bro Yes

Yo He's the new guy He's the new you Yeah And you know You know what that usually says Like Fuck that motherfucker

Yeah I like him. Nikki couldn't do that. Nikki couldn't check her shit when she should have ridden away. She should have put her hand around Cardi. Cardi and said, you're my girl. I love you. She should have put her hand around Iggy Azalea.

She should have put her hand around Somi. Your girl Meg, your favorite. I don't know why they think I hate Meg. I love her. Your favorite industry plant. Like, I love, yo, I don't know why they think I hate makeup. So, yeah. Your favorite industry plant. You look right at Tori like, you need more bullets? Yeah, I think Tori did it, man.

Yes. I want to talk about Tori in a second, but just to finish this Drake thing, the idea that is like how could i help a young comic like i can bring a comic on my podcast and we've had comics on our podcast and they've been able to like blow up and like build like following type thing it'd be bring them on tour but it's more just like do doing a fuck with a with a rapper you could do a song with him yeah if you go on tour with a comic you're still on stage separately you can't really ride that wave with the collaboration he opens for your audience a song is together you hear drake a little baby on a song like drake's already on little baby he's like oh

little baby's having a wave let me hop on yo is it like i see kevin hart like he'll put a lot of new like didn't he do it with um it's a female comic um i don't think she's that funny but what's her name again tiffany haddish yeah like he'll put her in a movie she's that funny, but what's her name again? Tiffany Haddish? Yeah. Like, he'll put her in a movie. She's great. So in movies, that works like that. But like with stand-up specifically, stand-up is such a unique individual art. You're by yourself. But I'm also like, yo, I want to do more for people.

One, I want to like showcase people who I really believe in. I think they're really funny. But how can I do it in a way where the audience really enjoys it? They enjoy the new person, but they also enjoy the thing I'm giving them. You know what I'm saying? I don't think you could do it. Drake goes, we're going to do an album together. Now all the Drake fans go, well, I'm going to listen for Drake.

And then they hear this other person. Comedy is almost like golf, though, man. Son, it is so individual. It's hard. Yo, it's so much like golf. It's like, yo, you can't really. Like, Tiger Woods could have never put his hand around Rory McIlroy or whatever macro macro whatever the guy you don't want to say any rory's name right you hate all rory's that's rory the one you told me is rory this one's called rory like come on man you do the version of drake that you

are able to do already it's like when you go to a city you look for somebody that you think is funny to open for you you're exposing them to your fans i know like that's the best you can do for stand-up comedy you can't do anything i think and this is i don't know how i think rogan rogan doesn't yo rogan did it with me he does it through the pod right i think rogan sees he's the king maker bro he's the king maker and when a lot of people who weren't in tune with you before him when they think about your rise to wherever you go they look at it as your rogan put us on and i think that makes him even more dope like the thing with drake drake used him putting, he didn't put on a lot of artists, but it made it seem like in the mainstream sense. So now he's the biggest A&R, right?

Rogan seems like the A&R of comics. Like, yo, you go in there and he gives you that co-summit? It's not only comics. It's like comics, scientists, intellectuals, workout dudes, diet. Like he's the A&R of life for a swath of the population you know so his influence is immense but i'm thinking there's got to be another way like there's got to be another way like like me akash me and mark like we can do a joke together or something like that where like you get to experience that person's humor but you also get to experience my humor like i remember i had

this one kid come on stage once he was just in the crowd and his friends dm'd me before and they were like yo or he dm'd me he was just in the crowd and his friends DM me before and they were like, yo, or he DM me. He was like, yo, my friend said they would give me a hundred dollars each if you would bring me on stage to do the show. We're in this theater in Edmonton. And I was like, fuck it. All right.

Like I didn't tell him, but I was like, yo, if you're here, come on stage. He came on stage and he did a joke and it was funny and it was a cool moment. Millions of views or whatever. But like, I'm looking at that moment. It's like, how do I do that for comics? I really like, like, how do I promote some of the i whose comedy i think is dope and like kind of build them up to what i have in the same way that drake has done because let's say drake is doing it completely selflessly let's say he's not doing it because he wants to ride away let's see he's

literally just like yo these people are dope and they deserve some love like if it's coming from that place shit i would do that do you feel like there's a need the necessity to almost you know i always said that you like my audience i'm like listen i don't really have much industry friends and i hope someone from my audience and a few of them have started to pop up doing whatever i'm like my only ask is that you just pass it along yeah in terms of i gave you the shout out and i gave you the opportunity don't take the baton and run it wherever you're getting to along the way if you see someone else though pass it on to you know it kind of creates like a tree in terms of influence

that's what i always say like any times people will you know say thank you or whatever like for the opportunity it's just like yo you're gonna get somebody That's in the same position you were in Give them the opportunity don't hoard that shit Don't keep it all yourself cause a lot of motherfuckers Want to keep it for themselves You're right I don't know there's a proper way In common though

He figured it out with music For Drake to be on top of the music industry He had to do that Is he the greatest rapper ever? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Instantly, yeah.

And the reason why I'm saying is that we're not talking about just – when people hear that, they instantly just think about bar for bar. You know what I mean? It's like when you think about – I think overall, Floyd might be the best ever. But if you actually think about boxing, probably ain't. You know what I mean? Probably who? He probably isn't.

No, Floyd is the greatest ever. I mean, I think that's arguable. Some people would still, like, what are you going off? Are you just going off technical skill? Are you going off the fact that he's undefeated? Are you going off technical skill? You're going off, that's his point. His point is be on technical i'm so i'm but here's the thing with with floyd with me is like i not only think floyd is the best boxer ever i think floyd is the best

person at any task ever i think floyd is better at boxing than jeff bezos is a business i think floyd is better at boxing than elon musk is at building spaceships i think floyd is better at boxing than Elon Musk is at building spaceships. I think Floyd is better at boxing than Da Vinci was at event and shit. When you say boxing, I think he's the best at boxing as in seeing the whole game and playing it right. I think the conversation, if Floyd took certain fights and may have lost and his record wasn't 50-0, but 43-7, very different. We don't even talk about it. But nobody's meeting him. But here's the thing, though. There was a strategy.

His approach to the game was also up there with his skills in the ring. You get me? And I think with Drake, when I say he's the best rapper ever, I'm not only talking about just rapping. I think he's seen the game and done all the necessary things to capitalize and be at the top. Okay. There's really only one other person you can compare it to, right? It's Drake or Jay, right?

What is the fruit that has come from Jay's tree? What is the fruit that has come from Drake's tree? Are you counting that, though? I'm just curious of it because the one knock on i count that legacy but i don't count that in you being a rapper no no no i don't think in terms of skill i'm just well okay let's stay on just who's the best ever so you know i think you're talking about like in terms of what jay has done that has he's left with the game i agree but i don't count that in being the best ever yeah yeah i think that's

fair i think that's fair i only count that in your run and whether your run was assisted by hey in years you were weak you put your hand around the hot guy or years like you were weak and you switched genres or whatever the fuck you did drake made sure he had a ironclad hold on the game consistently for 10 plus years. And Jay was always one of the top five. Yeah. Some years he was one. Some years he was two. Some years he was three.

But I think what he gave to the game in terms of people, influence, his impact, people cloud their thoughts and thinking about it to say he's the best but that's just his legacy i my you look at it as a knock when i say that like drake did this with these other artists i don't look at it as a knock i think that what he did is unbelievable like those other artists got way more out of it than drag did like he gave them tons of exposure you're talking about like you're talking about a world superstar going on and going on a song with a guy who's hot in a small portion of the population like maybe within that population it's like the uzi shit like you were saying like uzi's selling 3 000 tickets he's not selling out arenas but the whole world's like can't stop talking about Uzi you let me

know if I'm describing this okay I'm describing it as for example it's like teaming up in the NBA yes like people want to see LeBron not have no one on his team and just always be the Cleveland champions. The moment he

says, AD, come over here. Oh, fuck. You know what I mean? But that is smart. But I think what we're looking at with Drake is that we give him props for helping other artists, but we're like, that artist could have competed with you at some point.

You get me? Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. Rock him to sleep. Because there's a point that in 2015, if you go back when Future was so hot, if you could have forecasted, you'd be like,

yo, maybe Future could, if he keeps this up and keeps ascending, maybe he could topple Drake. No. I don't think I did. Well, but Drake pretty much overshadowed his weight. Travis. I think Baby to a certain extent.

People are starting. Charlamagne said that about Baby. Like, he believes Baby's a guy. I don't believe Baby's a guy yet. No. But I think Drake is smart. It doesn't resonate with me just yet. Drake won't ever make it like lines in the sand.

I think he'll always collaborate, help, and he'll always have those moments with that person knowing he's going to outlast him. He's like Floyd in a way. Floyd never knocks a motherfucker out, but he's like, yo, you go 12 with me, by the 12-round, niggas are going to know I won. Mm-hmm. Right? Like, yo, maybe the first with me, by the 12 round, niggas gonna know I won. Right? Yo, maybe the first couple of rounds... That's diabolical. That's brilliant. That is next level diabolical. And that's why he's one of the

best. Not if you can't beat him, join him. Join him so they can't beat you. Can't beat you. But you also gotta believe in your shit. You also gotta believe when you on the track with every one of these motherfuckers, you're gonna be nicer. You also got to believe when you're on the track with every one of these motherfuckers, you're going to be nicer. You got to believe because that is immense self-belief.

Because if you're willing to go on the same song with all these different people, you're basically saying, I'm better. I'm better. You know what's funny though? Drake hopped on his last track with Baby, I was disappointed because of that. Baby won.

Baby washed him. Baby killed him. Washed him? Washed him. Baby doesn last track with Baby. I was disappointed because of that. Baby won. Baby washed him. Baby washed him? Washed him. Baby doesn't resonate with me. I don't get it. We're 37, so I don't think we're supposed to. I think the way Drake capitalizes is because you know how an old rapper, you can hear his music and it sounds a little dated. They can't stay with the time.

So what Drake can capitalize on is like, hey, if I get on a song with this person who has a hot sound right now, I can now take this sound and it doesn't look like me copying because we're collabing on the sound. And he was getting accused of that when he was doing a lot of that London shit. And so he has lasted because now I can stay with all the new sounds that are going on because I'm just hopping on the new guy. But then I could also come back to my singing shit, my emo shit. And so it's like his album never sounds like his feature. his plan is perfect it's like dave portnoy it's it's portnoy yeah he's like i'm gonna do a tiktok podcast you guys 45 like he doesn't yeah he does a podcast with the tiktok josh richardson or whatever his name is i'm such a fucking hippie bro here i am thinking he's trying to spread the burning man love no like no help other people's careers and the whole time he's like i'm riding a goddamn wave somebody told

me this about drake and i think it's very true i do think he's at a he's at a interesting point in his career and it's the point of his career where for the people like me who like him and love him. Like, as I said, Drake is the greatest of all time. You're now about to hit your 30s or you're in your 30s. Yeah. The new kids, Drake is cool. But he ain't young boy. He ain't baby.

He ain't. Is that true? Yeah. Yeah. For the new kids? Yeah. Drake is cool. Like, okay. It's like, I remember when I came in here For the new kids? Yeah. Drake is cool. They're like, okay. It's like, I remember when I came in here, I was like, oh, Jay-Z's cool, but why y'all

all riding his dick? I was just gonna say, he's not revolutionary anymore. You know what I mean? I think for my generation, it's like, yeah. And it's like, how do you... You know what's crazy? You type in... You type in Drake to Instagram, and it doesn't come up. You have to type in champagne.

Poppy. You already have like 50 million followers. But still, he's at that point where you realize how much demographics matter because it's who the kids love now. And what was told to me, which I kind of agree, was like, yo, the kids who love, say, a young boy or baby, they'll never love Drake more than those guys. Okay. They might like Drake, too. He's the kids. He's 24 years old.

I mean, but kids are even younger than me, but yeah. So your generation. No, no, hip hop. Let me tell you this. What people don't realize is that, by the way, this is one of the reasons why I mean hip hop. Like, when you're 24, you're busy with a job. You're not affecting hip hop. You do have consumer money, but you're not on message boards.

You're not on, you know, Instagram, TikTok. If you have a full time job and come home doing TikTok dances, you got a problem. It's high school. Listen up, nurses. Back to work. High schoolers. I like the nurses doing them dances. And I would say college.

High schoolers in college dictateictate the conversation of hip hop After you leave college Now you have the money to spend So that's why some people don't care about being in the conversation As long as they get people like him He's gonna spend the money Like for example Young boys with the 14 to 18-year-olds.

If he goes on tour, you got to sell tickets for $20. Oh, yeah. Don't know how much money. You know when Drake goes on tour, you want to get even fucking 50 rows near the stage? $600. Yeah. Yes. You know why?

Fucking working. This is a once in a while. You're seeing Drake, $600. You could probably include a meet and greet everything you want to do for a young boy or artist that that appeal to that younger demographic and their max ticket would be like 100 bucks and and that's what i'm saying wow it's interesting because the kids primarily help control the conversation but a lot of the income that's why j cole is is still j cole benefited because he targeted the college kids who then graduated and start paying

harder in cash to see his country yeah smart you get me but people are always shocked by all these rappers that are appealed to like 17 year olds likeolds. Like, yo, why are they doing stadiums? Why is Russ doing big arenas at Uzi? Yeah, Uzi fan is like 17. What do you think Uzi fan is about to drop 300 bucks to see him in Madison Square Garden? No, it's not going to happen. Explain. There's two people I need you to explain in hip hop to me.

Losey Vert and NBA Youngboy. Youngboy is the black Joe Rogan for black kids. Get the fuck out of here. They look at... And let me explain how I look at Rogan in terms of I believe a lot of white dudes look at him. Like, yo, that's a dude who we... Stop drinking water. That's how you pee all the time, bro.

That's a dude who would like to be like. We like how he represents himself. That's the dude. We want to emulate him. NBA young boy? Yes. I'm out of touch. All the kids in the inner city, they literally dress like him.

They dress like him. He has a Louisiana accent. There's motherfuckers from California trying to sound like him. Say like they talk just like him. And what is the gravity? Like, what does he do? What does he represent? Like, because they feel like he's give me backstory a little bit on him.

Again, I'm too old. And that's why one of the reasons he's locked up. They actually believe like, yo, it's like Chief Keef in 2012. They're like, yo, he's real and he's in the hood and he's us if we're 17 we're him we ain't got shit but shit we gonna do regular hood shit we might be for this person do this do that like they look at him and in And that's why Youngboy for black teens. Overall, I think maybe for a little bit Uzi had that, but not like this. Like this guy is the quintessential for a black teen, the hood nigga.

They all want to be like. So hood black teens we're talking about. So where is it? I mean, even people from the suburbs who, because that's what hip hop is. the hood nigga they all want to be like so hood black teens we're talking about so where i mean i mean even even people from the suburbs who because that's what hip-hop is like like hip-hop is just a vehicle that brings people from the suburbs and and from like rich upper-class neighborhoods through it's like a safari through the vicarious safaris i've always said modern day cowboys yeah yeah it's like i get to be on the west like killing people but i don't actually have to do it but i'm telling you they look at Youngboy and they're like, this is the guy.

They have picked him. Uzi is, you know, I think he's almost. Now, can I ask you a question real quick about Youngboy? Is part of that because he popped on YouTube and that's where all the young kids are watching TV, if you will? I think you're partly right. He went around the industry standard of how they release music when he was on house arrest and he couldn't really put stuff out. He used to just put out music videos a lot randomly and he would just put messages in

the description because they banned him from social media. And he would just put out a lot of stuff and his audience are used to consuming. That's why his audience always hit me up like, yo, he's number one this week again, even though he's been locked up like a month. But on YouTube, they're conditioned to consume his content. But also vice versa. If you're only consuming content on YouTube, you're not used to spending money, too. But they love him. I'm telling you.

OK, now uzi uzi is uzi is a golden era of new music 2016 i think people looked at you think about the rappers that came in then kodak black 21 savage yadi was there but uzi was there too it was this it was a it was a start of the youth having an identity in music think about before like yeah you have fetty wap that was 2015 but nobody was 2016 i remember is when i was like oh i'm old i don't get it yeah i remember saying i don't get it and i was like oh i'm old that's it and also, it was when streaming started to matter. Music was primarily targeted to people. I'm sorry, what was your name?

Mark. Like Mark, who's, you're 24, you can spend some money. They used to ignore all the kids. That's how I blew up too. Because streaming put the kids on. With streaming, because the kids are always going to stream but they're like a stream is worthless and then it became worth something and then the artists that no one would talk about they would just be like people lost on soundcloud they became the number

ones superstars and uzi was part of that wave was he's part of that wave and to be honest he's he's one of the most talented ones from that wave and the one who is probably like um he's transcended just that wave to now he's just a superstar okay why is he a superstar if he's selling 3 000 seats that's a good question i mean is it the age thing no hip-hop to this day hasn't equated superstar to touring. Superstar is album sales. Superstar is social media presence. Superstar is consumption. And, of course, business-wise, and when you look at, hey,

how much in box office revenue did you pull in yeah you know hard tickets for the year yeah he might not be up there you still consider that person superstar i'm also too with hip-hop people don't realize a lot of artists that like who do you think is a superstar just give me a quick name in what rap yeah drake beyond jay-z okay someone someone the migos sure the migos can't do a a Drake Beyond Drake Jay Z Okay Amigos The Amigos Sure The Amigos can't do a Stadium Arena tour

Tickets in hip hop Is really hard to sell Wow And people don't realize that Wow You know like Post Malone could go do a Arena tour

Yeah post But if you're Amigos You're not doing an arena tour. But if you're Amigos, you're not doing an arena tour. Unless Drake brought you. Is it just having white fans? They'll buy tickets? Is that what it is?

Partly. But also, hip-hop is a genre that's unlike the movie industry where people are so used to getting it free. If I watch every NBA Youngboy video on YouTube without even YouTube Red, why the fuck am I going to pay $300 for a ticket?

But if you go into bigger venues, you can't sell tickets for $20. No, get out of here. Yeah, you're just not going to make enough money because the costs for the venue are just so high. But that's not the same because I give away tons of content. That's my strategy. I give away tons of stand-up and then people come out.

Is it because stand-up live is better than music live? Music live is usually worse than... They're used to paying for the movies. The movie industry did some great shit. I mean, Pirate didn't really start it and affected the movie industry and the music industry at the same time. But the movie industry

or the film industry, period, just dealt with it better. People still have the mindset that music should be free. That the experience they're getting from listening to people perform these songs should be at a minimal. It's a reason why festivals came up. Because for me to justify paying two, think about it. For a kid to justify them paying 200 bucks they want to see i need travis i need drake i need give me travis drake uzi little baby give me everybody

on earth performing and i could go to whatever stage but when it comes to a movie it's like no i just paid 20 bucks for the ticket i went with my girl i then bought like 40 bucks in food and i enjoyed it shit it was a date it feels like an experience music just kind of feels like and and that's where the music industry didn't do no brainwashing didn't do didn't make the audience feel like it was something anymore so people still think it should be free and only the upper echelon artists could command hard dollars do you think that that also has to do with crossing over to a white and latin audience and there's just so many more people when you do that like if you're popular

within black people that's 12 of the population if you're popular within white people and black people yeah now you're 75 that's like jack harlow like he's selling crazy tickets now and i'm assuming his audience is primarily white you just got more people to sell to. So when a lot of people go like, oh, they're white artists, they're able to sell, it's like you just have more people to cook it. Somebody told me just last night, they're like, yo, it was two people, and I'm pretty sure people are going to get upset at this, but this is true. They said, yo, Lil Baby's on tour currently.

They said Lil Baby's ticket, he's trying to do arenas about ten thousand fifteen thousand We imagine this baby. Yeah, they says towards doing bad. They're like you'll never see him post that his tour sold out It's not selling that much they're like Jack Carlos on tour sold out sold out But he was smart though coming up off the pandemic and maybe the pandemic has something to do it Jack Carlos doing smaller venues. He's doing like 2 000 venues. Yeah sold out all of them sold out Baby as much as you would think if I had if I told you name five

Current artists you think are the biggest he would be in that list. I it wouldn't be me. Yeah, really? This is what i'm trying to explain to you. We're out of touch. Like, baby, for... Who the fuck are y'all listening to? Well, no, this is the thing. AM Sports Radio. Oh, you watch? Yeah. So it's like, I admit I'm watched.

Like, I admit I'm a different generation. What do you listen to? Nobody. I listen to Olivia Rodrigo. You fucking bitches to Dead Air? Yes. To the AC. Nah, I fuck up to Dead Air.

Yo, yo, a chick told me that recently she was like yo why don't you like put on a play and stuff like that bitch I don't wanna hear Beats and Rhymes on a fucking new band

I wanna hear like Money Heist play on the TV nah cause you know these guys shut the fuck up I'm sorry Money Heist I'm sorry like

I gotta keep it 100 but still yeah Lil Baby does not resonate with me and I think that I think that you guys are kinda caught in a in a vacuum where you're like, yo, Baby's the best. Because I hear Charlamagne talk about it.

I hear certain people within hip-hop like, yo, Lil Baby's the biggest thing in the world. I can't speak on behalf of all whites. But let me just finish this point. I can't speak on behalf of all whites. But I have a feeling that Lil Baby is massive amongst black people. Yes. And there is a huge chasm between white and black people on Lil Baby Get On Board. And that is your ticket sales slump.

And I think that's why Drake wins. If you can't touch the people who are out of touch, you're probably not going to be able to sell arenas like that. And by the way, and I remember like, again, even some of my confusion watching the Russ thing. And even I went to 6ix9ine's show. Like, he basically looked at me and was like, same thing with the hood? The 12 fucking percent. That's exactly what I was going to say. Like, he said to me, he said, and I hope he doesn't get mad at me bringing this.

It was a private conversation. He was like, yo, if me and Lil go to switzerland and we both throw a show by the way he's he he's done europe like four times sold out right if me and baby go to switzerland and we do a show who do you think people are gonna know and then you get to realize the grand scope of things in terms of like to me baby is the hottest rapper like we the way the way we talk in hip-hop about baby's like he reminds us of the run or when wayne was about to get on his run but of course wayne then had to have a lollipop a a millie had to go crazy like there was a bunch of crossover songs and then i i look at i look at

baby i'm like i don't lie man we still we bump it but within certain facilities bro i listen to the song with drake and baby on it i can't remember a baby bar what and you guys are saying he watched drake i just i think he speaks too fast or something i I don't fucking know. He makes me feel old, bro. He makes me feel old, bro. I'll be honest. I listen to it, and I'm trying to get on. Everybody talks like it. What about like Roddy Ricch? Nope.

I like a couple of his songs. No, you like Roddy Ricch. I like The Box. The Box. I like The Box because that shit comes up on the playlist. That shit was like three years ago. I listen to Michael Bublé. You listen to Michael Bublé?

Does he still making music i like the baby i haven't met you yet by the way and i think this is where like you know perspectives all matter yeah yeah because i'll be sometimes so consumed in this rap world exactly that i'll hear some other yo this this feels so embarrassing for someone who runs you know a page that surround that we we cover the musicians lives and whatever whatever that song which isn't like you won't hear it if you go to your favorite hook club like what was that shit i'm like i'ma leave the door oh i i heard it on fortnight a bunch i'm like what is this old ass song then i heard it for real for real in real world like

long after i'm like wait this is a hit i've never like some of these songs like leave the door open it's silk sonic silk sign i don't know oh yeah they got olivia there's there's olivia rodrigo son i've never heard a song i just heard her last night i never heard a song but she's number one this is what's happening with the internet is that we can get all lost in our little ecosystem. In the other part of the world, it's huge. I'm trying to find some new music just listening to it while I run because I need distraction.

I go, what's the top hits? This bitch got eight of the top hits. The top hits on Spotify is her whole fucking album. I started listening to it. The regular person in hip hop doesn't know one song. That's Lil Baby. She's Lil Baby. That's what I'm trying to say it's like little baby just hasn't crossed over i as someone who i i this is what i do for a living right is i

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promo code flagrant. Let's get back to the show. But like the hardest dick that you could ever get in your life. BlueChew.com, promo code flavor. Let's get back to the show. But like a lot of that is hip hop. Put it like this. Ticket sales is such an interesting conversation that most artists won't get into. Future Meat Mill, like two years ago, the last time when Meat dropped an album, they tried to do on average 12 to 15 thousand venues They cancelled half of it

Couldn't do it It's hard to sell tickets Kanye couldn't even sell tickets But it does tie back to your demographics population Daniel Hernandez that's a massive Latino population 6ix9ine can sell out easier Because he's talking to his people If you're a rapper and the other races don't fuck with you

You're talking to 12% of the US population And they're concentrated in a few different cities you can't go to wichita kansas that easily and sell out if white people don't know about you that's why i think drake got a cheat code drake got a fucking cheat code why man drake speaking 15 different yo he spoke arabic one of his last songs come the fuck on he knows what he's doing bro He spoke Arabic Spanish He spoke Spanish with Bad Bunny He has a song That I still listen to That is speaking Portuguese

Is running the Brazilian charts Like what That's why when You know as much as you be like Yo hey Like you trying to like Almost kind of gauge it Like Jay to be like

Alright you're at the point Where you're supposed to get out of here You have to realize This motherfucker is serving everybody Like he's like mcdonald's for real for real like he got like you know mcdonald's might be a little might have a hyphen over the name in a different country that's drake that's small fucking drake he is so good when it comes to that and i'm looking like the guy is speaking he's in the islands with it he brought it back to toronto he sounds like he's from houston when he wants to get gags he's from chicago yeah then The guy is speaking. He's in the islands with it. He brought it back to Toronto.

He sounds like he's from Houston. When he wants to get gangsta, he's from Chicago. Then when he wants to get like he's on the West Coast, tip, he's from the West Coast. Then he gets international with it. He's speaking Portuguese, Spanish. The next thing he's going to do is fucking speak Latin, man. What the fuck we going to do with this?

That's great. You got to be. Yo, I'll give it up to him. Yeah. Yeah. And he does it in a way where it seems authentic i do think though but but that's where you know i think you know you almost have to um it's like eric correction cardi b spanish six nine spanish drake is half black half white we can't expect someone like little baby who's straight

Black from the hood to compete with those Numbers internationally So when we say Like at what point Do you have to think that Jay Was doing arenas and just Jay alone I'm not talking about Jay saying I'm bringing the whole Rockefeller

There was always a couple artists hot It took a while When you're when you're like multilingual when you're multi-racial when you were kind of socially ambiguous or shit if you're just white you are going to be able to appeal to much more of an audience you feel me like truth be told there's no black guy that could ever have the reach as rogan let's be honest no can we actually have a real conversation just numbers in america no because part of rogan's appeal is that a lot of people could see you see yourself in that person themselves like you can't like you can't you could he can't i don't that's facts i love rogan's great i don't see myself in him Yeah And because

Matter of fact I see that shit happen All the time here Like They don't listen to music That much But whenever they're like Oh shit you heard that song

It's always a white rapper And I'm like Don't put that Don't put that shit on me No I was pointing to these two Like They'll jump on Jack Harlow They'll jump on somebody

Yeah how the fuck Did you hear Jack Harlow Nah for real I've never heard you say like How did you hear Jack Harlow The new black guy He I've never heard you say like, the new black guy. He put me on. NLE Choppa is my guy, bro. Son, you was talking about him

two years ago. He's like, no, it was before. He's growing seeds in a flower pot in his kitchen, man. Honestly, watching his YouTube

rebirth has been fascinating, dude. He's been algorithmed. I'm watching this guy and I actually hit Duval about it. I'm watching this guy and I actually hit Duval about it. I'm like, yo, this guy's actually really curious about truth and shit. You should holler at him. Take him under your wing. He's a

guy who's curious. He wants the fucking truth. And he's getting YouTube algorithmed into selling different fucking T's and shit. I think that is almost, not saying he's copying him at all, but that's why people thought when he passed away

xxx yes yo x he was he once you start tapping into like you know like higher level thinking some different shit you know i mean it's like it's like all right cool and i've realized i've ranked it too i was like listen if you want to have a show about gossip the ceiling's here okay you want to have a a show about gossip life experience ad sports ceiling's here okay and if you want to have a a conversation about you know other levels of like you know the conspiracy theories and shit fucking ceiling's here and that's very true. You know, so, like, I watch X do it, and, like, it almost turns to be a cult. It's almost like people are like, even with Alex Jones. Like, I don't even think Alex Jones cares enough to be a racist. I'm going to be honest.

I don't think he cares enough to be a racist. I think he's so stuck. I don't think he's racist. I think he's stuck on his own thoughts of what he thinks the world is and what's going on. But what does he say that's racist? Well, I don't know. That's the thing. This is what I think happened.

Black people, we don't really pay that much attention to what's happening in the white world. And we kind of just group a few niggas together. So we grouped him with the Rush Limbaugh's. We grouped him with a lot of the Fox News dudes. As soon as he rocked with Trump, people were like, As soon as he rocked with Trump,ugh's we grew him with a lot of the If you came out of doors Trump Race, of course, and that's what it came and that's why that's why it's dangerous because like like people in music They know music they're masters of music

But a lot of them don't know anything else and then they leave music They start talking about politics and Meek Mill is a perfect one to get in Right right it's like you start talking about politics and you just told a company line with the political takes but politics is a different beast bro like these people do their googles like you do not want to be in a google contest with alex jones the motherfucker finds out who the pedophiles are yeah he finds out who the dirt, the bushes, you know what I'm saying? You don't think he's going to expose you? If that wasn't the content that he was making, I don't think after he got blackballed from all social

media and content platforms that he'd be still doing good. Oh, because he has the cultish following. He had to be doing that to still survive. You're talking to a motherfucker that finds the dirt on the people who it's hardest to find the dirt on. That's a bad man to be in.

That's a bad man, bro. If you got dirt, that's a bad man to be involved with. I watched those episodes and I loved it. And I remember just thinking to myself, I'm guys are you guys are in the perfect place like you know you know i always told people if i didn't pop off from what i did i could always find the need of an audience and somehow try to serve so i would pop off doing something else right and i think the great people who know how to build an audience always figures that out and i think right now we're in a need of like bro if you look on social media twitter and instagram like is this a bunch of people with pussyfied opinions you can't talk about certain things you can't laugh and maybe comedy helps i

think comedy definitely helps you guys right yeah because i was watching like y'all just you could roll up in a joke and as long as the joke's funny it's like oh it's cool no we're joking but like in reality there's certain things that are we can't even you can't even talk about yes and i watch people if if you do it on twitter you're getting roasted and canceled yes if you do it in most platforms you're're getting fired, roasted, and canceled. And I watched you guys touch on subjects. And I was watching, I think it was the Black News Network. I didn't even know that existed. But Mark Lamont Hill had one.

Judge Joe Brown. Judge Joe Brown. We were talking about Bill Cosby. Wild boy. And truth be told, I was watching them engage. Yo, you got the clip right yeah play the clip this is the craziest shit I would love to hear what you think about

it yo I feel like I missed out on his show Joe Brown this guy does not give a fuck once you get the handlebar mustache you know the opinions are going to be wild. You just checked out. That's why we fuck with old people, man,

because they just can't not say what they really feel. Look at Mark. Mark trying to hold it together, bro. Hold up. When they are high or drunk, you cannot have sex with them. It is not sex. It becomes rape.

And even by the legal standard that you're saying we should appeal to. It's not for every state and it goes into this rate velocity it goes Ain't my fault I got a DUI and kill somebody How you think that's gonna flow? Whoa, right, but the difference is the drunk person has a responsibility not to get into the car. This is why I'm sad. This is why I'm sad.

Now, Mark knows because he's involved in the political world. But this is why if you're entering the political realm, you're entering the legal realm, it's different than gossip. Music and sports. Let me say this. Music and sports is gossip. It's let me say this music and sports is gossip it's nonsense comedy music sports is gossip it's nonsense it's pov nobody could call you on it when you start entering legalese and you start talking judges politicians the fucking political puns and shit all they do all day mark lamont hill has done this he's a beast he mark lamont

hill will find the best arguments of things. Regardless if you agree or disagree with the argument, he will do the reading. He will do the research. So he's ready for that debate. That's why I'm saying like if you enter a debate with one of these guys, this is all they do. This is their life. They live and breathe this. They have an opinion and they find all the best research.

They literally fund breathe this. They have an opinion and they find all the best research. They literally fund think tanks. They spend hundreds of millions and millions of dollars just telling smart people. They come out of Ivy League schools to find the best way to argue their opinions. They're ready to go. You don't got a chance unless you're about their life as well. Of course. So he thought he was going to like throw this point up, which is, hey, listen, if you're sleeping with someone who's under the influence of alcohol or drugs, it's rape. And Judge Brown just hits him with a, well, what if somebody's under the influence of alcohol or drugs and they get into a DUI and they get into an accident and kill them?

Is that not their fault? They chose to take the drugs. I thought that was a brilliant counterpoint. I'm going to be honest, though. I love Lamont Hill. I hated how he approached this. And I saw him later on. He lamented.

He pretty much said, I'm sorry the interview went that far. And I don't hate him. But I hate people who go into a conversation or a debate only with the hope and result that you have to agree with what you're saying yeah he clearly was not going to agree with what you're saying and instead of understanding his point you just found it so um detestable that that you weren't even trying to they were talking over you also got to serve your audience your audience is going to be super disappointed if you hear him out. A lot of people have created an audience that doesn't allow you to question without being disappointed.

Like if Mark Lamont Hill was like, okay, I don't agree, but I just want to hear you out. They would say, how could you give him that platform? So he has to argue with me, has to talk over him. He has to tweet afterward that he's disgusted by it. As opposed to, it's only the law in certain states. That might sound fucked up to you, but it's a fact you can't argue with. Yo, and this is why I felt how Mark Lamont Hill was going about it is exactly what social media is. Yeah.

Like, if something is tweeted out, nobody even wants to hear the people. Just agree. Shut the fuck up and agree. Yeah. And if you're not shutting the fuck up and agree I feel like that was the sentiment Just shut up and agree We'll agree that, alright cool, legally he got off But he's a predator, we're just gonna call him a predator

Because we all agree he's a predator And he was like, no no, we're not gonna call him that And I could tell it was almost He was getting heated Just kinda And watching that is how social media operates with anything yeah and i hate that because that's really that's really not true free speech and he kept saying just your brother kept saying yo what a lot of you guys are talking

about in terms of you want to describe him as this or you hoped it turned out this way that's mob justice like no disrespect but the me too like movement started out very pure and turned into mob justice yeah a lot of social media is complete mob justice yes and yeah i watched someone who and i think you know he's in a very special space of his life where he just don't give a fuck yeah it's not like he on tv no he's not like he's a sitting judge somewhere like he's just cooling so like he could just say it and get off his chest and whatever but i feel and if i would take a poke i think a lot of people think i'm not maybe not about this particular subject yeah like judge joe brown but a lot of people about many subjects that you're scared of you're too pussy and that's why i love what y'all do.

Because sometimes I see y'all voice it, even in a funny way. And y'all seem not serious. I'm like, they think that shit. It's not funny though. Maybe. It's a possibility. You never know. Edit that out, please.

Isn't that what's lacking though? Yeah. Isn't. Yeah. Like whether, like you could take away from this and be like, yo, Judge Rob Brown's an idiot. But for the mere fact that he could voice his opinion, and even if you didn't agree, you're like, okay, some of the stuff he makes sense, it became almost outlawed to even acknowledge that. Yeah. If you acknowledge that, you're a rapist offender.

Yeah. You know what I mean? You're a victim oppressor. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. You need to be canceled. And I watched this and I'm like damn this is exactly twitter if you say anything to the to the contrary of what the mob is saying

you're the problem yeah that's what this conversation was for twitter and it is you're right an unpopular opinion makes you unpopular to a lot of people yeah one unpopular opinion is enough that's why you guys built build podcast. I'm like, at some point somebody in the room must have said, yo, let's chill out because we might want to get with Netflix and they might see some shit and that joke they might not hit you with a drink while

playing. They might be like, you fucked up. Let me tell you what will happen. This is something I realized. They cancel the people that are attached to corporations because it's not really you they're trying to cancel. They're trying to get a billion-dollar corporation to bend to their whim. So what happened is we put out the Netflix special, right? And then, like, there was, like, some people reacting to the Netflix special, right?

Like, they thought it was really fucked up. Like, we made some jokes. They thought there was, like, some insensitive jokes about, like, Asians or something like that. We literally made fun of every single race. We're so, like,

diabolical with it. Like, we went through all the jokes and we color-coded them for political party. So we're like, okay, do we have a decent amount of, like,

liberal jokes? Literally, the special's fair, dude. Yo, we're making fun of gays, lesbians, transgenders, straight people, blacks, whites, males, females, and, of of course there's one offended party like of course we

should be it's just white people offended on behalf of another group right it was asians in this circumstance right and um and what was so interesting is we say fucked up shit on this podcast every single week yeah every week nobody cares the second there was a corporation that they could attack the second they could go netflix how could you platform this person netflix how could you it's nothing to do with andrew schultz there's nothing to do with mark gagnon or alex media it was how do i get the billion dollar corporation to move based on what i feel and to your point i maybe it happened and I wasn't aware, but I didn't hear a lot of cancel Joe Rogan type things

until Spotify. Oh yeah. Now every week. You hear it, the only time you would hear it is whenever he would endorse a political candidate and the opposition

would make him radioactive so that it would remove his endorsement. Yeah. Yo, it happened to me and I realized. But Spotify, yes, 100%. Yo, it happened to me with Complex. I'm sure. And I was But Spotify Yes 100% It happened to me With Complex

I'm sure And I was definitely A little bit You know what I mean A little bit off the head dog But still I said something about

Chrissy Teigen What'd you say Oh yeah He went off Wait what'd you say I did my Google Alright so Chrissy Teigen right

Yeah yeah She out of here bro Whoa She out of here It's funny because When I had a gripe then They were like Oh the way you said it Fuck you You know what I mean They got She out of here, bro. Whoa. She out of here. It's funny because when I had a gripe then, they were like, oh, the way you said it, fuck you. You know what I mean? They got me out of here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but really, so Chrissy Teigen, this whole bullying thing, she's always done it. I remember, like, again, this is when, like, 6ix9ine just went into it. I remember she had tweeted something. I was like a picture, like, made a picture of me and 6ix9ine, like, cuddling. And she made, like, almost, and and she made like almost it was super like a homosexual reference to it and i was like wait this is all cool and i and i never say anything about it yeah and then she said something else but it was like i think i was trending at the

day and she like retweeted like yo what a fucking weird like something like that right now she deleted all those tweets i realized she's great but i told you copy save i mean file save i always do it right and one night when her husband john legends album drop legends the motherfucker sold like 13 000 john legends album dropped oh i thought you were pluralizing his last name oh no no his album his album dropped and she's so outspoken on social media and and i was i do sales for everybody in hip-hop and just music period i was like how the fuck does he sell like 13 000 when his wife is on twitter starting up every conversation and and hailstorm every day why doesn't she use her platform To promote This fucking album Yeah

Now Granted I did mention Some colorful language And I might have said The B word Okay But still

It was meant In the context of Hey Check your chick In terms of her Always getting at people What did you call her You call her

Bok Choi Listen But And by the way You know I did later apologize For calling her bitch I had to

I'm gonna be honest Why Because At first I wasn't going to And by the way There's been times Now you can call her a bitch Right

Like she told a 17 year old girl To die To kill herself Well that's also the thing With social media That was before people Knew she was a bitch That's the thing

With social media Now they know she's a bitch Yeah yeah yeah You could get away With saying crazy shit Call her a bitch Call her a bitch now No no of course no she told a 17 year old girl to kill herself no well here's the thing that's bitchy can you say bitchy no no i have a lot of you can't say bitchy well i wouldn't why i'm gonna tell you why and i'm gonna tell you why i apologize because and i've been i

remember when sizzle was like upset like one time described her on Twitch, and then she came in for an interview, and she saw it. Because I didn't know how she looked, and I made a description of how it sounded. She was upset. And Complex told me to apologize. I said, no. The reason why I apologized for the, what's her name? Chrissy Teigen. Chrissy Teigen.

Bitch. What's that? No. You don't want to say it's that No Just say it You wanna say it No I don't You don't think she's bitchy I'm gonna be honest

The reason why is like I work with A female Nadeska Yeah And I remember her telling me She was like yo listen I know

How Supportive of me You are And you know You know my plight through This entertainment industry and i'm gonna be honest when i watched what you said granted i get that she said things about you before but it felt like you were belittling women and i had to apologize even though

i was trying to personalize it to her but the mere thought that it was like i was trying to um just offend all women But you weren't you're calling her specifically a bitch But if it's someone that's on your side Well when everybody loved her When everybody loved her Calling her that particular word was calling everybody Was calling everyone that's right

Yeah yeah yeah And she's on X side she's like yo you've done a lot for me I know who you are I'm just telling you It's still to me with that that knowledge, sounded this way. Yeah, I just apologize. She called you a Bati boy, bro. No, she did. Yo, you can't let that slide, bro.

Also, I learned another thing. Because when I tried to explain that first, everyone was like, yo, where are the tweets? We don't even know where. It doesn't even exist. You just seem. So I was caught in a vacuum where they're like, we didn't see when she provoked you. We only see when you shot up the club. Like, nobody saw when she spit in your face outside the club.

And now you're like, fucking, I'm going to the trunk. This whole shit getting shot up. We only saw that. So, and I was like, you know, I took the L. But I watch what she's going through, and I kind of feel bad for her. I feel bad for her. It's a lot. They're doing a lot.

I think she's been the person that's leading the mom to try to get people out of here before and she never realizes that when that happens to you there's never a point of sympathy where someone says i think she gets it chill there's never a point of redemption i'd be like yo i think she's sorry there's never a point of anything where it's like, yo, all right, yo,

you know what? Let's give her another chance. Those things never happen with cancel culture and she's been on the opposite side. So I look at it and that's why I don't like,

I'm not happy about it because truth be told, the person I am and apparently the person all you guys are like, we will all get canceled for a bunch of shit and come back

because cancel culture now means like, we ain't fucking with you for this week. It's probation. Next week. Yeah, probation, sure. Next week, are like we will all get canceled for a bunch of shit and come back because cancer culture now means like we ain't fucking with you for this week but it's probation next week yeah probation sure next week if you like do some funny shit or you go viral we fuck with you my shit is like i don't know i don't like people who pretend to be perfect like she's she's canceling all these people knowing full well she told a 17 year old kill themselves like that's crazy like you're acting as if you're perfect you're criticizing people For their worst moments But how could you blame her

You had bad moments How could you blame her A lot of the things The way I just did A lot of things Are accusing her of Wasn't just in the dark Some of it was

Some of it was through DMs But she was kind of Doing a lot of this stuff On her timeline And people were supporting it That's why I came about It's kind of like The Ruri and Mealy Moore

Type of shit I was telling you about Right You're gonna sit here And listen to this nigga and say all this shit. Yeah. And then now you're going to jump off the bandwagon and get mad at the nigga for saying the same shit that you were sitting with them. She was doing. She never only did this in private.

She did this in public and private. She was rewarded for her behavior. And nobody was like, while y'all were on the Chrissy Teigen bandwagon, no one said, hold up, Chrissy, no, you're wilding with this. No chill. Yeah. No one did that by the way one of the other people who claimed that she said something about them the dude at the time was being canceled for being potentially racist everybody on the timeline was like get that you know it's a mob it's like kill him we don't care now when everyone's like yo level rational calm yeah yeah whoa okay i know we meant killing men but like we didn't mean to actually tell him to kill himself yeah you did that yeah yeah yeah come on you're flip-flopping

yeah that's the thing that's what people do and i guess that's what i get annoyed about i just thought the timing of canceling her was weird it was like two weeks after she lost her kid and then she like had i remember some thing where she got an expensive bottle of wine and everybody's like what if she's not in touch this stupid bitch she was saying the expensive wine wasn't good but don't you think like these people like if you're ready for a cancellation is because you've been building it up and you just haven't given people an opportunity let's get on a conspiracy theory shit man who the fuck she pissed off she pissed off right wing twitter and right wing twitter was just waiting for whoever the fuck was on that plane for jeffrey epstein man we got to figure it out while they wanted me to react to her they

kept sending me manifests. They're like, yo, she was on the manifest. I'm like, I'm not touching this with a 10-foot pole. No, they didn't. They were like, yo, what you need to fucking attack her or respond to her with this pizza gate. Yeah, they tried to label her a pedophile.

They tried to go for her being a pedophile. Because that's their thing. So conservatives, the extreme right-wing conservatives all right so the liberals if they don't like you they call you racist yeah but for the extreme right-wing people calling you racist is like there's worse things so it's like that's not really moving the needle right So they gotta have What's their extreme Their extreme Is pedophilia

So if they don't Fuck with you You're a pedophile You are a pedophile Like that's what it is Doesn't matter Who you are What you do

They will find a tweet They did that with The dude from Marvel or whatever James Gunn The director They did it with Tom Hanks at one point

Tom Hanks they said Was a pedophile bro Oh yeah they just Ramp everyone under Yo let me ask you One question Alright go Cause I seen it happen They did it with Tom Hanks at one point. Tom Hanks they said was a pedophile, bro. Oh, yeah, they just wrapped everyone under. Yeah. Yo, let me ask you one question. All right, go.

Because I seen it happen. And maybe people always said I was salty because of it. I just didn't see it lasting. You were one of the early, and maybe still, haters of Clubhouse. And I went on there, and I knew something was up. All the people that own it are like, hey, you've had the biggest. We had Chris Rock in here. We had this. own it are like hey you've had the biggest we had chris rock in here we had this you had the biggest house you had the biggest room and it was like a bunch of like these people like having a confrontation intervention moment and you've never believed in that platform and watching what what happened to it

i don't think you're that resistant of like tiktok yo son i the only reason i i hate tiktok is because it's like a chinese spy tool like if we invented it it is objectively speaking the greatest social media platform i've ever seen created what's unbelievable i can watch it with my girl for an hour straight and be completely entertained i can watch with them for an hour straight be completely entertained wasn't supposed to be sold to like microsoft yeah but they have these back channels to get the data all social media is data right it's just mining data and if you're big enough as a business in the united states of america you're intertwined with the government right like so i mean alex jones's thing is like the nsa runs amazon not bezos you know like you just you get big enough within business where

they don't just let you operate freely well you think you're just going to make billions of dollars and the U.S. government is going to say you don't have to pay taxes? You think that's your agreement? It is weird. We got monopolistic measures, controls, and all that. And the last monopoly I remember breaking up was AT&T in like 1990. They're doing all right. Yeah. Since, what, 30 years you had Amazon.

Walmart was damn near one at one point. They haven't broken up. You get big enough to have a government job. That's how the fucking game works. I kind of disagree. I think we're at the teetering point. Something's going to happen to all these companies. Like, think about it.

I think government has to do something about Instagram and Twitter. I think if you see Nigeria said, fuck out of here. They told Twitter to get the fuck out. They do. Like, Nigerian president tweeted some shit out, and Twitter said, this is too violent. And Nigeria's like, get the fuck out. They do. Like Nigerian president tweeted some shit out and Twitter said, this is too violent. We can't. And Nigeria is like, what the fuck? We run our shit, not you.

You get the fuck out of here. And America doesn't like that. Well, we create the social media apps. All the other countries use the social media apps. We get all the data from those other countries, how their people act, how they operate, who they want to vote for, what they consume, how china makes a social media it's not like trouble everybody's probably everybody around the world everybody around the world loves this social media but now we're not the ones getting the data we're not the ones getting the information we're not the ones

profiting off of it that bothers us the only reason i'm upset at it is because china bans our social media apps if china was like yo it's a game who creates the hottest shit we could have instagram there we have facebook there they do tiktok here i'm cool but the fact that they go no american apps can exist here fuck you no i think we have ours like smart on their behalf yeah sure i mean i think i think that's what where the u.s government is going to come into problems. For any government to really control the people, and every government, even if it's like, it's a government where it's not like just completely totalitarian, where they're just ruling everyone. You know what I mean? It's like you need the government law and rule to maintain order, and you always got to control two things which is media and of course

religion of course you know and if you quote people yeah well those things control people right right and if media is allowed and for example like twitter could twitter could say hey i don't want the president to say this i don't i don't think the government should say this to their people i think that's a big problem but what if twitter's the government should say this to their people. I think that's a big problem. But what if Twitter's the government? That's what I'm saying. Facebook's the government. But if the government has to do something about the wannabe government. Well, it depends who's really the government.

Okay, well, it depends who's really running it. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Like, it's preposterous to think that America, the course of this country, which is decided 50 years in advance, 100 years in advance. course of this country which is decided 50 years in advance 100 years in advance like when we decide to go from the atlantic to the pacific that wasn't a decision made for the president to look good in the next quarter that was a decision made for the course of this country for the next century right so it's like you're making there has to be some governing body that's making decisions for the next 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 years you can't make

decisions four years at a time we the people think we do and we make cute little decisions four years at a time right uh trans bathrooms are regular like all the little shit that doesn't really matter that they get us to argue about all day yeah but the real decisions made like where the fucking oil is coming from are Are we moving from oil to electric? Are we going to the moon? Like the real shit. Like what are geopolitical strategies? That isn't four years at a time. You want to give the British all this big brother shit, man.

I might be like, yo, really? You better hope there's a big brother. You think this fucking corpse Biden is running shit? You really think this 90-year-old man is running shit? This is what he's tapping into. You're out of running shit? This is what he's tapping into. You're out of your mind. This is what he's tapping into right here. Yo, but think about it realistically.

Yo, he's tapping. Son, you know. I was watching you and I'm like, yo. And I'm like, maybe I do need to think about it. It's a little brainwashing. Son, it's not brainwashing. Think about it like the music business. It's no different.

If you take it at face value, you go, oh, I guess these artists are just popular. And I guess, hey, you know what? There there's a video has 4 million views and 40 comments i guess people didn't think like commenting today okay or are there people i let me ask you a question puppeteering the business a bit okay good so what if you know say what so what if you know or aware that that's happening you're right yeah yeah yeah okay so now you know what does it matter now what i'm grateful for it people are upset it oh there's this action hold on because i think that some of this thinking also fuels some of these like like you know regimes to be like yo let's get let's become like a little militia in case the government the government come and try to take our guns or try to oppress us.

Like, what do you do with the information even if you know that they're controlling it all? You're assuming I'm upset that there's people controlling it. Oh, so you're cool with it? Yeah. So it's like not knowing. It's like who cares if you know that? As long as it's our boys. As long as it's the boys, we're good.

What do you mean the boys? As long as it's America and not China, which probably isn't going to be the boys as long as america and not china which probably isn't gonna be the case we call the boys the army like the military okay so it's america like all right okay for example world war ii we sent the boys out there uh so you're just talking about some patriotic shit Like as long as we beating they ass And we're running this shit I know America first He's like as long as it's just us We don't give a fuck I don't care what color they are

If they wear an American flag I don't care what gender It could be a big old tranny with dick and tits I don't give a fuck If a big old tranny with dick and tits Is like yo we're taking out whoever's talking shit As long as we running shit I don't care what color. If the big old train of the big intense is like, yo, we're taking out whoever's talking shit. As long as we run this shit, I don't care what we do. That's it.

That's it. So we fight each other. We fight each other like crazy over like what decisions get made with like the presidency and all that other shit. You give a fuck about other countries. This is sometimes. Ask the question you want to ask. Don't preface it. Ask it.

Do you care about other countries? No. Because I hate when they have like presidential debates. Don't preface it Ask it Do you care about No Because No I hate when they have Like presidential debates And they're like Yo So what's your foreign policy

I'm like I don't give two fucks I never care Who gives a Like yo What the fuck You gonna do over Do over Egypt

I don't give a fuck Who gonna make me more money That's what I want Yo listen That ain't got nothing to do with me Just make sure Them motherfuckers Don't fuck with us

This is our foreign policy No It ain't them fuck with us. We're the ones who knock. Yeah, we always do. Don't fuck with us. Like, we scared. We're pulling up and it's not a Kia. We are out here, bro.

We are out here. Oh, my God. No, I get it, though. You got to look out for it. Hold on. But is there ever even a thought? And that's why I said I wouldn't even care about it. Is there ever a thought that we would lose handle on controlling pretty much the fucking world?

Ask this cuck. Yep. This fucking cuck is pro-China. Oh, you think China's finna run us? Yeah, China's finna run us. Can I tell y'all the real shit, though? They in all our books. They know know everything they know all our secrets Whatever side

I told you. I'm on whoever's side. It's not the winner's side. That's what I'm on. You know what's funny? Is it like. It's good to be the winner's side. Yo, I agree. That's how we came here.

China's going to take over, right? And then like the whole like hip hop community, they've been calling all these like crazy like white militia people like nuts. They can be like. Oh, we going to rock this. Oh, shit. They was. Bring in the boys.

Where the fuck were y'all at? Yo, where the boys at? The boys. Get the boys. Get the boys, yo. Get the boys. Hey, listen, man. Get the boys Hey listen man Right now we just not focused on that right now

You not focused on that right now It's like Independence Day when the aliens came Everybody's on the same team That's the thing When it's us against them we are all us I can't see You know China is trying to make some moves man and as they should like y'all you want to be number two your whole life here's the

thing about like china is doing what they should do now when i say that i don't mean like china little baby like slave camps and all that kind of stuff that's fucked up like don't treat people like shit but want it to be number one i've had a view of like china's power i'm only thinking that yo they just make everything all the shirts that we got and hats and motherfucking um um um dick top you see my man john cena apologizing in mandarin yeah i saw when the basketball players you saw to speak up i was like what the fuck is going on as as as like an american isn't there a little part of you is like yo hold up why are we bending over like seeing lebron grab his ankles for china that didn't make you feel comfortable a little bit spread spread but it's the power of the dollar though this is power of the dollar but i do think there's it it only goes

so far you know i mean like they're not controlling like we just want to tap into their market so we'll play nice to tap into their market but for them to get to the point where they're controlling whoever pays you controls you yep yep whoever pays you controls you because they control what you think what you do and how you act that's control if you can't have an opinion they control you whoever pays you controls you if you care about that payment so like what china did which is brilliant is they go oh americans are the most greedy motherfuckers on the planet. They'll literally do anything for money. They'll sell out their own brothers for money. We will do that shit.

It's sad, but we will sell out our own values. We will sell out anything for money. We are sluts, fucking whores. And they came through with the big bank and they were like, hey, sluts, get that gluck gluck ready because your boy's coming through. Right? So we need to back. We need to chill off on that. Like, yo.

Yeah, but if Chaka about to take this shit over, like. Not, not, not, not. All right. If they are, what the fuck could you do? I do. Nothing. The boys do. What the fuck could they do?

Nothing. Yeah. Hey, bro. Biden, hit that button. You fucking with my name? What? You fucking with my name? I think he's a nice guy. I think he's a nice guy

I think he's a good guy I think we finally got a placeholder Back up in office Get that motherfucker here You know we ain't gotta worry about him Cruise control Because he's not making other decisions He's the perfect example of how the president don't make decisions

And the reason why Trump was such a hostile environment Is because he started making decisions And the powers that be were like I'm doing I knew body was a little pussy when like recently after the you know, the runner that smoked a little weed Yeah But you know, I mean, I know Trump. I don't care if I claim Trump don't like black people Chuck would have been like fuck the Olympics Yeah, this guy is just so bland he's like

well who's the rules get the fuck out of here it just feels like he's just cruise control son I was literally talking to my boy about that shit and I said the same thing

Trump would have been like weed's legal now in the Olympics oh you didn't know oh you didn't know we gonna blow those Olympic O's with the weed

executive order executive order. Executive order? Yeah, 100%. Yeah, but like, we can tell Biden he's just cooling. You know what I mean? And maybe the country needs that because I know a lot. Yes, it needs it. It was going crazy.

Bro, they had this shit like this. It was too much. Yo, it was entertainment, though. But I'm not saying it was good for everybody, but that shit was classic. It was classic. People talk about Obama not pulling troops out of Iraq. I don't care. I want peace at home. I don't care. I want peace at home.

I don't care if the neighbors are fighting. The temperature is so much lower. Everybody's chilling. Nobody's crazy. Nobody's upset about things. And that's what you would want if you were the powers that be. Isn't it crazy that people think that most issues are fixed when the president just ain't saying shit? When he shuts the fuck up, it feels like everything's cool.

Like, oh, this is better. Well, think about it. Think about how it works. the fuck up it feels like everything's cool well that's like oh this is better well think about it think about how it works like if if the powers that be i don't know who the fuck they are don't ask me but if the powers that be are making those decisions are making decisions right and the person that's in power watching info wars i was watching this shit is i kid you not he said like hillary clinton and all people, they're controlled by the council. It was a documentary.

He was walking in the streets. He was like, it's right here behind these walls. And I'm like, I'm starting Googling the fucking thing. I'm like, what the fuck? They got this shit hidden in plain sight? The fuck is going on? I'm like, hold on, this bohemian girl. What the fuck?

Yo, that shit is addictive. If you jump into that world You gotta be careful in that world Because like This is the thing This is the crazy thing Is that He lost me when he said

He saw some sacrifice That shit was tweaking me up I don't I don't Put that past motherfuckers I don't know Bro that's Jamaica right Aren't they sacrificing chickens

Nah goats bro Goats are goats You can eat that motherfucker Anywhere She is Haitian And nothing against My Haitian people But we not sacrificing right aren't they sacrificing chickens nah goats bro she is Haitian and nothing against my Haitian people but we not sacrificing no animals we eat them

we eat cows we eat pigs but are you religious that's what halal is you sacrifice then eat I am Christian right yeah Christians know nothing about human sacrifice yo I'm not religious I'm gonna be honest with you the older I've gotten I've gotten more spiritual you know what atheist. I'm going to be honest with you. The older I've gotten, I've gotten more spiritual.

I'm referring to Jesus, bro. No, I understand. Human sacrifice is baked into humanity. You go to the Aztecs. You go to anywhere. You find these groups of people that sacrifice humans. The older I've gotten, I've realized that religion always served a place to help the government control the people or have them do whatever they will. If you were the government,

wouldn't you enlist somebody with that much influence? If you were the government. Now, if you're religion, you are trying... I always assume the best of people who are religious. Because the people I've come in contact that are religious... Have you ever been religious?

No, my parents didn't raise me with any religion. Satanic. No. That's what we call it. That's what we call it. I thought you didn't know him. I mean, I haven't seen this motherfucker in a while. How did you get like this?

Yeah, he was there praying before him. He was not nothing. Yeah, this dude is something else, man. You're trying to trick him off? Not praying over your food makes you satanic. What's up with you man That's not Jamaican this guy is You fuck black bitches not racist

What you racist No I probably live a more or less religious life I guess I got that from From Jordan Peterson He's this dude I asked him do you believe in God He goes no but I act as if God exists.

I got into Jordan Peterson after watching Kevin Samuels. Who's that? Oh, Kevin Samuels. He's the black Jordan Peterson. Yeah, he's the black dude version. Yo, yo, I watch all this internet shit, and this is why it's hard for me to really go. Can I tell you why I love black women so much, bro? Please. Talk about my queens

Yo black women are the best Oh my god Cause Cause This is a social clip White White women If you

If you hurt their feelings They will They'll be hurt They They won't snap back They might try to like Say that they're offended And cancel you

Or some shit like that Black women If you hurt their feelings, they will break you. Kevin was talking wild about these black chicks, rating them or whatever like that. Black woman went back on his Facebook and found him looking super sus.

Best investigators of all time. They turned him gay. They turned him gay. It was unbelievable. It was a 24 hour period. They're like, wait, you said who looked like a linebacker? You are gay. It was unbelievable. It was a 24-hour period. They're like, wait, you said who looked like a linebacker? You are gay. It was unbelievable.

They got him out of here. Well, I mean, truth be told, I think that's what I'm saying in addressing whatever. He's not really gay. They were just trying to Man, I don't know what's going on, man. No. I think he is. No. I think so. He got some tendencies and shit like that.

What kind of tendencies? He's well-dressed, in good shape. Black women, bro. Black women, bro. I'm telling you, man. What's the Ndard telling you, brother? That's what I'm saying. What's the Ndard?

You have a retard, dog? He's a little suss. You think he's suss? Yeah, zesty. That's a perfect Perfect way to put it I could not say it any better He's a little zesty

You know what I mean but like Yep Seasons Zesty Yeah Something Seasons Zesty

Hold on He's a little flexible You think he's a little flexible No no I think it's something Sure like there's certain Mannerisms Okay You know, like When you kind of get those

But I'm gonna be honest though I haven't done my full research Like black women They'll Like When I started getting that For example

Like I used to get Like I've criticized Nicki Nicki fans will turn me gay Like I've I've thought like Am I gay? Turn me gay

Yo, they're good They're good Like you They'll think like What the fuck? They'll. Like, you think, you're like, what the fuck? They'll think, yo, yo. They will think that, like, yo, academics likes pussy. Boy pussy. Like, for real. And they'll come up with all this type of shit.

You're like, fuck. Like, this is the evidence. You're like, boy. Wait, wait. What was the evidence they had on you? I need to know. No, they would just take screenshots of, like, in this conversation, they'll take certain angles

of just your hand, like, the way your lips are quivering. Like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, just say, I dap it up with you. They'll just look in his eyes. You can see it. I'm telling you, for real, for real. Like, they'll create the shit. So that's the only reason why I can't say it.

God bless black women. Because they're only coming up with, like, these artifacts. I don't see him acting like that. The only thing you can say is that I think it's an exhausting task to sit and argue with black women. Like, That is exhausting So if you really go through that You gotta be careful Yo

Yo The mere fact that he does that Like play this This is how black dudes handle black women This is how we handle our queens You got it You got it You got it

You got it Two to three max back and forth You got it After that After that You're going in the territory Like you got two to three max back back before you got After that you're going in the territory of her putting hands on you or some shit with a police gonna be called You should not do it. No Get me. Yeah, so so when I see you guys and I'm like got it this guy this guy got a lot of patience He likes Arden. I've never met a dude that like arguing

with females like that I mean and also it'll be arguing about certain shit that's like like you can't tell

a female you know them better than themselves you know what I mean but that might be shtick so I can't ride the wolf but a gay dude

would say that a gay dude would say I know women better than they know women you know what I mean but I I'm gonna be honest with you I'm gonna be what i mean i think i think it might be the opposite okay i've seen people like for example there's an influencer on instagram called like justin laboy oh yeah yeah and he writes captions that a lot of women think that women would say there's sometimes pandering to women like for example i

think with him yeah pandering to women probably gets some more pussy like he's straight yeah no he is yeah but if you ever like just i don't know him i don't know who he is i just women are so shocked by him yeah because and he's not doing nothing that's a grand wizard grand wizard posted a thing where druski responded he just said, shut up, and then word to Justin LaVoy and mad people liked it. Yo, here's the thing. All he's doing is like, he's listening to what black women say and saying, you're

right. I'm a man and I agree. And he posted from a male perspective and you know how women argue. If they could find one guy that agreed, he's the guy. Yeah. Told you I was fucking right. You ain't a, you a piece of shit. He agrees. Why can't you be more like him?

Is he Derek Jackson-ing it a little or what? Well, until he gets found out. You want some ice, bro? Come on. Not as much. No, until he gets found out. And that's what I'm saying. With Kevin Samuels, he's super dismissive of women.

He puts them down. He might get Derek Jackson. Don't they ask for it in his defense? It's not a good defense they were asking for. No, no. They ask to be rated. No, no, no. He breaks them down. They'll be like,

they call in. Can you tell me why? They'll call in and say, hey, I want a man who's financially well off. Yeah. And he'll look at them and be like. You weigh 260. You're 260. You look like a fucking beach whale.

Like, yo, look at your face. You got like, look, you got three kids. He pretty much belittles a lot of their self-esteem. Right. To supposedly ground them in their expectations. Oh, he's saying he's doing it for their benefit. Yeah, yeah. Right, right.

What that might be, maybe, who knows? Sometimes what people say on camera is not what they mean. He might be the guy who's, like, simping. The guy who's, like, you know, he doesn't treat and talk to women like that in his spare time. Because I've seen videos of him, like, just casually around women. He's not dealing with them so authoritatively. He's kind of very nice to them. But on the show, the shtick is shitting on women.

It's like, yo, wait. You want this type of guy? You got two kids. You live in the projects. Look at... And all these other dudes that are losers on the internet that are alone. They don't got girls. They want to see the girl that gets...

They want to see this guy basically shit on women who probably would then shit on them. But they're like, okay, since I could never get a chance to shit on you, I'm watching him do it for you. You're going to reject the girl that would reject me. Yeah. And what's more gay of the guy who's trying to get other men's approval

by shitting on women? No, I don't think he's getting... Hold on. It's a business strategy. It's a business strategy. Derek on now. It's a business strategy. Hold on. Derek Jackson, I think at one point once he started getting

his first side chick and he said, man, this cheating shit is kind of good. Man, this little side bitch pussy is amazing. First side chick? Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, he got a lot? Yeah. Glorious as fucking bitches the whole time. I thought he's faithful, that guy. Yo, hold on. What's going on? Yo, what's going on thought he's faithful, that guy. Yo, hold on.

What's going on? Yo, what's going on? Yo, here's the thing with him. Derrick Jackson's cheating? Yeah. You're like, bro, that shit is foul. Bro, you're Judge Joe Brown for Derrick Jackson. Derrick Jackson is cheating out here?

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That's the only one that stuck. They were tweeting out stuff like, yo, I love Drake's penis. All that type of weird stuff. Nobody cares. That's not that funny. That bad baby shit stuck. What was it? Bad baby got mad tits. Yo.

Y'allall laughing about it But that week it was It was fucking hell It sounds like you can say it son It sounds like you can say it like Usually when people hack right They go for the gay shit immediately It's always the gay shit right

They did the gay shit that didn't slap Yo they sent 20 tweets Bad Baby got mad titties It was so believable It's always the gay shit, right? They did the gay shit. That didn't slap. No, they sent 20 tweets. Bad baby got mad titties for a 15-year-old. It was so believable that all the responses to it was like, yo, Ack is a wild boy for this. Nobody was disagreeing. They were like, nobody was like, this is disgusting.

Yo, here's the funny part about it, right? That was a fake tweet. That was a fake tweet funny part about it Did she have mad cities I can't even cover because the teeth is too big to cover This is why Rory could never make it This is why Rory could never Why are you comparing bro Yo yo Yo here's the funny thing right So Nicki fans

They'll bring that up like How could you Remember you tweeted this out Who cares a thing Right Yeah yeah yeah Nicki's actual husband Yeah yeah

Is a sexual Offender Her brother Her brother is in jail. You didn't see this? I forgot. That's why I realized her brother's in jail, bro. She was touching the kids at daycare.

Who is she? You're not on Twitch. Hear what I'm trying to say. They will attack you with the same joke that the person that they're defending is 100% guilty of. Yes. They don't care. You like kids? Yeah, yeah.

Wait, hold up. Hold us up. Wait, hold up. But now, after all the smoke is cleared and, like, we're just, everything's cool, like, we like we regular like like how much titties would you say that she has for a 15 year old mad

nigga I'm gonna say it like that that's a little I'm gonna keep it real with you there's certain people in the entertainment industry he's good he's good

you ever heard of Coleraine yo that was and Coleraine's of age her body looks underage to me I cannot look at her

in a sexual way she looked like one of the aliens who was serving coffee in Men in Black. I said that too. Did you really? I put it side by side on Twitch. I did. And I said, yo, Coler, I fuck with you. But yo, it was the BT joint where she was on the

red carpet. I literally put them side by side. I said, Coler, you look like one of the worms in Men in Black. I fuck with you, though. And you fuck with her heavy to the point where I'm like, are you getting paid? Why are you so attached to her? This is the thing that people don't get, and that's

why me and Takashi work pretty good. If you... And that's what I was supposed to ask. If people talk about you negative or positive, I don't care. I look at the comments. If there's 2,000 comments every time I post you, we're gone. Oh, we post you all day? Yeah, we're posting all day.

If everybody loves you and there's 300 comments, we're not posting you. I'm sorry. Who the fuck am I posting? Ack is Drake. Oh. Ack is Drake. Drake-edemics, bro. That's why you understood the greatness because you got yourself. You saw

that little wave with Joe you were like let me ride this little wave and then when that started out you were like let me find the next one we got Takashi alright we out of here this new one Koala Ray can I get you to at least be honest bad baby yo look

big ass waves I think Charlamagne and Joe are 1A and 1B. Stop it. Stop it. You're being ridiculous. No, I'm saying talent. I'm not talking about accomplishment. Talent. Not even talent. You're being ridiculous. You don't think Joe's talented? You're more talented for sure.

No, I don't think he's talented at all. No, no, no. You don't believe that. You don't believe that one. I don't think he's talented. Let's be real living for 20 years. Stop it, Chose. No, no, no, no. Someone who dealt with words for 20 years, whether it was rap, poetry, whatever you want to call it, and now is speaking for a living.

You don't think there is some talent there. He's talented. I used to be like, yo, you are more talented. You can't say something. For people to be let down. I'm agreeing with you. For people to be let down they had to believe you most people would want to get people that high of a belief system there's two to sell them the dream you gotta be a master salesman there's two fans i think there's two fans for joe okay you're bugging

by saying he's not talented you're bugging by putting him on the same pedestal as Charlamagne. You're bugged. Yes. He's talented for sure. He's talented, but he's not. Charlamagne can be on Breakfast Club and then he can be on CNN and they both engage in conversations.

Joe can't do that. Stop. Joe can operate in one space. I remember once I was watching SportsCenter randomly. He, like Joe can operate in one space. I remember once I was watching SportsCenter randomly. He was on SportsCenter just sweating like a crackhead. And I was like, oh, this guy can't operate out of his space. No, he just sweats all the time. Because he wore fucking mink to this stupid ass.

I don't know what he did, but it just didn't work. It just didn't work for him. But he can operate in his space, but I just don't find him that. I don't know. I just don't find him that talented. Once you see the facade from the outside, I was like guy creates gravity like oh my god like i you have to give it up if someone creates gravity like my first attraction to uh takashi was like wow this guy can create gravity and then i realized he actually had it like i i go oh this guy's a super

talent we had a discussion here about aboutashi, and I won't say who said what, because I don't want to incriminate anybody. If you want to say who said it, then great. Alex is cool. Alex don't fuck with him. No, no, no. It's not Al. Maybe it's not Tekashi. I'm talking to people all day who hate his guts, but we can still have a conversation.

This is what was said. I don't know who said it, but we'll say it. We were having a discussion with whether he was a high IQ genius or whether he was so addicted to attention he was willing to do whatever it took to got the attention to get the attention and i'm not going to say who said what but that's interesting that was my thought when you said that he's both yeah i think he is super smart i think he is a high IQ. Super smart.

And social intelligence through the roof. Through the roof. And I learned it. He's one of the only people who will... And that's what I'm saying. That's how we expose

the rap industry. I think it's... Don't go to... No one would taunt Chicago on camera and even if you're going at nighttime, no one would go there.

He saw the space. He would put his life on the line in situations. And I would be like, why are you doing this? Because he got nothing to lose. No, I think he always wanted. Okay. The genius is not executing the plan. The genius is understanding society and knowing exactly what to do in order to rise to the heights of entertainment.

But that's bunk. What's I do? Bunk something? No. It's the same shit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because Tekashi could. He was just doing random stuff.

It wasn't. In fact, it was. Tekashi didn't need beef. Tekashi could play soccer and motherfuckers be like, this guy's hilarious. Tekashi could run in a fucking hotel room. It'd be, it'd be hilarious. He also found his self deprecation.

So he do this super beef and then he do comedy and I'm watching the comedy and I'm like, bro, cut the beef. You're funny. So if he was such a genius, like why isn't shit popping right now? Wouldn't he figure out a way to pivot transition to make shit pop? The justification,

at least for me, the justification for him was always numbers. So it's, we're Billboard, we're number one, the songs are popping, everything's killing it. So he could always go back to that and be like, I'm doing bigger numbers than your favorite rappers. The second he gets blackballed, he can't lean on the numbers. Now that he can't lean on the numbers,

they have something that they can attack him on, which is, yo, you're not doing sales anymore. And he hasn't lean on the numbers well now that he can't lean on the numbers they have something that they can attack him on which is yo you're not doing sales and he hasn't been able to navigate i don't know i'm gonna be honest i think i think she's 100 right he's one of those people the reason why and at one point me and we're gonna do a podcast oh and get the fuck out of here hold on yo here's the thing discussing, he is up there with anyone I could sit across. I bet. Because numbers, he knows numbers better than me. If you think I know numbers, he knows. If you ask him right now, what did Kanye sell in 2006, he tells you to the exact number. I know it.

I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. When I. Yo, he would be like, yo, yo, I know all the same shit you do. We argue all the time about it. He knew everything precisely.

Precisely. And please don't get me wrong. I don't have anything against Takashi. I just don't like... Yeah, you do. Cap. I don't like how he navigated after the whole criminal situation happened. Yo, call out, Mark. Call out. Can I explain? Because I did like him prior to that shit happening. Yes, call out, Mark. Call out. Can I explain? Can I explain?

Yeah. Because I did like him prior to that shit. No, you didn't. Yes, I did. What are you talking about? I was fucking with him up until that shit.

No, you didn't. But you can't ride with niggas and then turn your back on these. You said build the wall. Anytime we would play these, you said build the wall. That's what you said. But I'm just saying,

I just can't ride with a person like that because I'm a person on character. I ride with my niggas. We ride together, we dieas. So we all, we ride together. We die together. And that's how I always fucked your girl.

Yeah. But we don't know what happened to make my boys. Fuck my girl. Because if everybody's happy, if everybody's happy, your boys ain't fucking your girl. Well, I'm going to be honest. It's just a weird situation.

Like the more, the deeper you get in that conversation of why he snitched, the more you have to almost adopt street principles. Because the idea of not snitching is solely about street principles. You get me? Again, if you guys work together and you find out he's been fucking your fiance and you thought he, I don't know, I don't want to put it out.

He's getting married this weekend and and listen you guys were cool or you thought you were cool you would instantly say that was never my friend right right in the streets apparently i've been told i'm not a street nigga if they fuck your baby mama they shot at you they kidnapped you you either gotta do it back or somehow handle it but don't tell them it's weird okay yes that's his point yes okay so so that's what i'm saying to to people who don't care about that element no no no it doesn't make sense but for people who do it it it's it's difficult i'll say this for the street logic the whole idea with the street shit and this is not just like black gangs this is russian mafia italian mafia anybody who operates

outside of the police everything has to be handled outside the police thank you right so if i fuck hypothetically if his girl gets fucked yeah he needs to keep that street shit and then handle however he wants to handle his that that's being said the the way i the caveat i create is i never believed he was part of the gang okay i believe the whole shit was made up from the beginning and the fact that he just hired the gang like security and that's where i go into this other thing because i felt that it was an understanding yeah there was one time he invited me somewhere in brooklyn i don't know brooklyn so he invited me somewhere and it was an understanding. There was one time he invited me somewhere in Brooklyn. I don't know Brooklyn like that. He invited me somewhere and it was where his childhood

home was. It was still really messy this time. It was him and his childhood friends. I thought you said pussy. No, Bushwick. I remember kicking it with them and while kicking it with them and I was like,

yo, all that shit we're seeing gumbo when like all this blood this blood that i'm like bro that's not you this is you you're super funny this and third and you know this is gonna backfire at some point and i remember he said yo hey this is what I got to do right now. To get out of here. Yes. I'm in it right now. You feel me? And I thought if I could see that on a few times of meeting with him, how could you be a whole gang that was around him every day

that actually thought that he was not going to tell? Stop it. By the way, in hip hop, in hip hop. Stop it. By the way, in hip hop, in hip hop. Stop it. No, I'm serious. You capping for your boy. I'm not capping for him at all. I've talked to Shadi. I can also see that with, you know what? I've talked to Shadi and Jem. And hold on.

I'm going to show you how fair I'm being. Based on that, I then look at it as, because they've also floated this theory about him and I'm always honest we've had that conversation I'm like maybe he was manipulative then because I talked to Shadi in jail

we talked on the phone and I said did you think this wasn't going to happen and he said I thought boy was going to ride yes but everybody outside didn't say that even though they smashedashes girl. Oh, well it smashes girl shoddy Who smashed his girl?

It was supposed to be Shadi, right? It was Shadi. It was good? Listen, here's the point. I get to love bullshit. I love bullshit. You know I love bullshit. You love the what?

I love the bullshit. Oh, are we bullshit? No, no, no. In terms of, of course, I will discuss anything. I heard you tweeted she got mad titties for it. I hated her. No, really? I hate that chick.

Why? Because she didn't fuck you? No. She was fucking the whole game. No, really? I hate that chick. Why? Because she didn't fuck you? No. She was fucking the whole gang. Yeah. No, no. Honestly, because when he was locked up, and this is some of the blowback of 6ix9ine. Yeah.

I think that's part of the reason Meek don't like me. People start, they stop being able to separate us. Yeah. When he would pop up. That's why even now, when he comments about dirt stuff, I don't post it. I don't repost every other blog repost. What he says on my page,

I can't repost it on my own page. You know why? Because they're thinking me and him are huddled up in some room, giggling and like, yo, send, send, you know what I mean?

So let me ask you this. Why is it that all these, these rappers that, uh, have million dollar brands, as you say, which we believe that they understand and that they do, can separate their personal life from the gangster shit that they talk about? But they cannot separate, one, you from 6ix9ine or 6ix9ine from the gang shit. A lot of them do. I think most of them that don't separate me from 6ix9ine, they 6ix9ine so much and they've always questioned themselves why if because this was an orchestrated

thing to get really like they start pressing people who are controlling dsp's like yo you can't be a real nigga if you make him play this and you got that dude on it don't why are you putting his music on there with real niggas you know i mean so it became a decision you had to pick a side you get me so when everyone gave up on him and everyone said all right cool you know what like everyone there's no one on the side there's no one riding for him so okay cool it's easy to go with everyone else when it came to me i'm like i'm gonna still post him and stuff so now they look at it to say we've pretty much got rid of him from most presence in hip-hop except you keep doing it so fuck you so like with me he thinks i'm gonna get rid of you and that's the last remnants you can't you know what

they're doing those are the people that cancel that's what cancelers do i'm gonna get billion dollar corporations have been to my whim i'm gonna get social get social media platforms. I'm going to get Spotify. I'm going to get all these to do what the fuck I want because I'm inconvenienced because I feel hurt. Lo and behold, all these rappers still talking about foul shit on their songs. When I got suspended from Conflicts, I heard Meat Nose calling around giggling, like really hoping like, yo, they got him. Like, imagine a rapper caring that much. Like, yo, yo, did they fire him? Yo, they got him?

Oh, yes. Like you yo, did they fire him? Yo, they got him? Oh, yes. Like you and Rory and Moe. No, actually, no. I don't care if they succeed. No, when they got fired, bro. Oh, yeah, of course. I signed up for Twitch. Of course.

I had to. I downloaded the app. No, I had to. Just because it proved it wasn't about them getting fired. He's a school shooter. No, it wasn't. He's a school shooter. No, it wasn't. He's a school shooter. No, no, no.

But that's why. If Akasha was like, yo, y'all cracking jokes this end third. And he's like, yo, yo, I'm not going to fuck out. Like on some real shit. Like he's like. You know what I mean? I've done that many times. Yeah, yeah.

No, you have not. Stop it. No, but if he was like that, right? He's a school shooter. If he was like that a couple of times. And then he's looking around the room like he's looking for like a ak-47 or like a fucking ar motherfucker hold up man you might have to take a couple episodes of akashu tweaking bro and you're also coming at this from the

perspective like of a guy who put a hallmark card in front of your house like that's a little crazy that's when i would be done i'd be uh it'd be all right so you have a different perspective also you know how crazy and this is why this also i'm kind of i'm watching the train wreck or whatever it's gonna end up being like if they do succeed they could now talk to me on a level playing foot and i have no problem with it because i like to talk to people who built it themselves and even if they have a head start sustain it when they sustain it a year from now if they want to say act what up i say what's crack what's cracking i think that's fair i'm not gonna give you no credit before the before the the wave that you're having amplified so you're

so you're looking at this this is interesting and if they're being honest and they should respect this as well this is interesting which is you were you're saying yo y'all were speaking about me as if you've built something by yourself they're criticizing the moves i made when i was in a position first of all right right super green i didn't have someone like joe who was an industry veteran whether he was going to manipulate him this hadn't turned according to them right um i didn't have that person right there with me right along the way i had to make these decisions yeah they're criticizing me like basically acting like i'm a bum yeah but i had to do it on my own and get in these rooms on my own y'all been assisted yo y'all been on this dude's back like a backpack and now y'all finally get to do it on your own so in a

year from now yeah if y'all still thriving and y'all say, yo, what's up, pussy? I'd be like, now we can talk because y'all have sustained. I think that's fair. I think that's fair. And that's what I was trying to say in the beginning where it was just like, yo, they had the balls to go potentially fail. A lot of motherfuckers. They were never going to fail. But no, no.

A lot of motherfuckers. They could fail in six months of the year, like you said. No, no. In the first month, it was zero to zero. But they can still fail down the road. My point is, my point is, if you are willing months of the year, like you said. No, no. In the first month, it was zero. But they can still fail down the road. My point is, if you are willing to take the risk, you're willing to take the risk of failure. And that failure will happen in front of hundreds of thousands of people. How many people listen to their podcast?

So I respect that. I respect motherfuckers who are taking a risk. I do not respect people who are still on the sidelines and they criticize. There's a Teddy Roosevelt quote. I don't know know the whole shit but someone could look it up but he got a great fucking quote about critics it's like yo be about it do it put yourself out there and honestly if you put yourself out there and fail i'm not even going to criticize you bro i'm the type of person like when i pass you like i haven't mentioned joe since i pass him i haven't mentioned because there's no point in mentioning him like it's not close it's not close it's not close no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no And Joe's like, yo, listen, he got some good shit going on over there. Like, I think people think he's down bad. He is in high school. No, no, no. I didn't say he's down bad. But we passed him before this whole thing happened. It's just. By the way, I think this is a great time to announce. I have a podcast coming.

Okay. Oh, shit. Where, where, where? Huh? Where? Listen, it'll be coming a few places, man. But I'm hopping in all these conversations. And you know me, I leave by beef. I'm so happy. So anybody who starts. Listen, I'm going coming a few places, man, but I'm hopping in all these conversations, and you know me, I leave by beef.

I'm so happy. So anybody who start, listen, I'm going to tell everybody now. Are you recording in a WTF Media studio? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Come on, bro. I know a lot of you. I'm so petty.

I was about to ask you if you're trying to sell the studio. I was going to buy it just to have control of it. Don't stunt on me like that. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo Just to have control of it. Don't stunt on me like that. Yo. No job. See what his offer is. Notice he didn't say no. Notice he didn't say no.

Notice he didn't say no. I'm going to see how much you offer it for. What's up? When do you start your podcast? His manager will entertain him. When do you start your podcast? Next month. Next month.

Do you have a place that you're doing it? I have my own place in Jersey. You know what? You want to do it in Jersey? We can set up. I'm going to lie. Y'all are out in like... No, no, no. I'm five minutes from

Times Square. It's right outside Holland Tome. Who goes to Times Square? You are from Jersey. No, that's the press run. When artists come in, they go. They're in that vicinity. Artists come to where the heat is, bro. I'm the heat. Exactly. So they don't come to Jersey. They don't come to wherever. But I live in Jersey. Can I say this say this can i say this maybe we'll tell people we've been looking at new spots

for a studio you know what i mean maybe we need to create a little maybe we need to create a little vibe you know you take a floor we'll take a floor and then we uh nope i'm just saying nope i'm just saying they got people after this motherfucker. I'll just say. We'll talk afterwards. You want to be in the city? You want to be able to be part of that press run or whatever. What's up?

WTF Media Studios is not included in this. As long as my name is in the credits of Ruri and Mealy Moles podcast, I'm strong. Oh, my God. Come on. Alex Media is always included in whatever I do.

But WTF Media Studios, I'm not asking you to move your studios. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He already has his space. He's expanding. We're expanding. Oh, word. Yeah, bro.

Second space. That Rory and Ma money is good. That's good money, bro. That's good. I'm just saying. The check's clear. What do they pay you, bro? What do they pay you, bro? Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. That's KD money. That's coming from KD. That's good money, bro. I'm just saying. What do they pay you, bro? That's KD money. That's coming from KD.

And that's money they're getting now because you know they were broke. I can think I'm going to survive in this podcast space. What's the do's and the don'ts? You don't got to ask me that, bro. No, no, but podcasting is different. I know. He's good. He's good.

I tell you this. If there's one thing that I will credit myself with is i can tell when motherfuckers are shrewd operators in the game i picked it up early with that kid right there mark i picked it up early with that kid right there i picked it up early with that guy right there but we've been you know we've been buddies forever so like we probably didn't even know this about each other when we were starting comedy this guy over here but you takashi like there's certain people where i'm like nope this motherfucker knows exactly what he's doing if people keep on stumbling into the next great opportunity and you think it's stumbling

they might have planned to walk that way no no i i like the thought of stuff no no stuff let people to thank you but we know when people by the time people figure it out, you got to be up so much. They can't get rid of you. But, of course, I like to just, you know. You're so far ahead of that. You got to stumble so far ahead. It don't matter. That's the thing.

It's like the way that I handle, like, we've spoken way more about, like, Joe or anybody on this podcast than we've ever on our own podcast. I think we gave him bars maybe once or twice on the whole thing. We never really talked about people. Sub this in the mail. That's one thing with Twitch. Nah, nah, nah. The call him daddy shit. Oh, I'm talking about this podcast. On Brilliant Idiots,

I killed them with call him daddy. But on this podcast, we don't really talk because they were talking about it. But on this one, I don't really talk because they were talking about it. No, I know. Yeah. But like on this one, I don't really talk about it. But if there is, you know, if there is any energy that comes out negative, it's inspiration for me. You know, it's just inspiration as a tool. Just knowing that that's there.

That's like, oh, that's a that's interesting. That person feels that way. And then I'm just going to surpass them. And then once I surpass them, it's all just just love you know um but it's always motivation i never really like operated with you know in terms of takashi has with like using beef for uh value because you got to keep on using the beef for value well maybe not be for value but i'm gonna going to be honest. Like, through my, like, you know, career, I've always used out. Like, I never felt like people gave me the proper due. And I was like, all right, cool.

I'll, like, instead. I'm never the person to say, yo, look at me. Yo, didn't you see when I did this? I'm like, all right, cool. I'm going to just work harder. Yes. And at some point, like, I'm in a weird space now. Like, even to hear you

be like yo act and i've heard it from a few people like yo you're one of the guys i don't even say you're one of the guys in terms of the voice when it comes to hip-hop these days and i'm like like i don't like this praise like this is this doesn't really tell me yo get the fuck back to work it's almost kind of like uh okay you did it and i'm like ah i fueled myself so much off you know and i look for that like on twitter now i love when they're like yo i hate this dude or this dude's trash or whatever i i need that to kind of feel like we've got to make that adjustment too because like there's an adjustment that has to happen when you're on top and very few people know how to lead.

They know how to gain power. They don't know how to lead. Maybe you're not, maybe you are, but like, you're going to need to know how to prepare for that. Like, it's like, there's a million people in the world that know how to get to that position, right? Million is still very few. Maybe there's 10,000 people that know how to like ascend to the highest ranks of whatever their industry is but a fraction of them know how to lead there it's the same thing with like kingdoms and that kind of shit or presidencies like very few people know how to lead it's so easy to fight like trump didn't know how to lead trump knew how to win like he knew how to win a presidency but he didn't know how to president he knew how to say everybody else ain't shit. He didn't know how to bring people together and really lead them to

something. Once you're on top, that's the adjustment you gotta make. It's hard to make that adjustment because if your whole life is fighting against motherfuckers, you don't know what to do when there's nobody to fight against. Because eventually you're gonna get in power and when you get in power, there's gonna be a moment where people look at you and they go, alright, what do you wanna do? And if in that moment, you're

still gonna induce fear, they're gonna go, I feel uncomfortable. Somebody tell want to do? And if in that moment, you're still going to induce fear, they're going to go, I feel uncomfortable. Somebody tell me, take them someplace, bro. I'm going to be honest with you in watching, and I've always said, again, for me,

just like you, I love giving up proper respect. And even, whatever you might think about Joe, he was a part of my ascension or wherever I went to. And I always show respect that's i always like i'm never the person who's you know i mean um just kind of negative about whatever and i look

at charlamagne and i've watched his career like you know he's been such a great person to me like man one of the great things i ever did when i met him like i never asked him for shit only for him to have like that line of communication open that he could tell me what i'm doing wrong or just kind of leave me and watching how he's gotten to this level and the mistakes he's made and him realizing mistakes and pivoting and doing everything and just seeing where he's gotten one of the things and I don't know how i'm gonna get it, but He's someone who I think

He's helped put other people, other talent on, but he's brought people together. Yeah, he don't need the chaos. And I look at it, I'm like, damn, Masha's a lot of chaos, right? And I'm like, will I get to that point? And I'm like, maybe I'm in that chaotic part of my career because I feel like I'm fighting for a space. Yes, there's war, there's victory.

But once I'm there, maybe I'll get to that point where I'm like, all right, cool. Now everybody, let's go. You know what I mean? Son, you win the war, and then you need to know how to lead during times of peace. And leading during times of peace is harder because motherfuckers complain about everything. When we're at war, everybody's on the same team. What were we just saying? If aliens come invade, we're going to call up China.

We're going to call up Russia in every single movie. We're going to be like, yo, are we all are we all humans yeah all right let's fuck these green motherfuckers up right like everybody's on the same page but times of peace is when we get ornery right we get uncomfortable we complain about everything all this bathroomism what i like oh look how people are dressing this pronoun doesn't fit me there's all this bullshit that we got to complain about and leading during those times where everybody got good. And you're also the same leader that was like. You know the fucking war I had to go through to get here motherfucker. And you're complaining about bathrooms.

You know how many people I had to beef with. You know how many people I had to punch in the fucking mouth. It takes a unique individual. To go from that. To that. Like Rogan is that. If you want to give Rogan credit for anything. It's his ascension going from

carlos mencia steals and i'll walk up on stage and call that motherfucker out stealing jokes to where he is now like putting people on king making like if you want to give him credit for one specific thing the transition between ascension to power and like benevolent dictator with power like giving it out and trying to give people the voices they deserve that's rare because most people hold on to power tight you seen that bitch rachel nichols whatever the espn chick like they tried to let the the black girl uh maria taylor she talked about it she was like she's taking my job yeah oh i thought you about diversity everybody's about diversity until the diversity comes for them.

Yeah. Like all these white chicks are about diversity in the office. And then a black woman comes around and is like, whoa, we don't need to be that diverse. Someone's pandering, man. Like I hate when Macklemore was like, no, just give it to Kendrick. Like what's happening? So pussy. It's embarrassing.

It's like the only way to talk about it is like, yo, just basically say, I'm not shit. And I'm only here to uplift. And I'm like, yo reality and i heard just i heard someone say that reason like yo you don't have to be like racist to be like yo yo say you're a white guy i'm like yo i like being white if you say i said exactly if no if you say i like being white you can't say that i know you can say you like being there's a difference i like being black i like jamaican because black is a culture white is not a culture that's the distinction like white people black people don't know where they're from a lot of them you know where you're from you're jamaican

but like a lot of black americans don't know where they're from okay so they can't say i like being congolese because they don't even know what the fuck being congolese means that's taken from them white people know where we're from. I can say I like being Scottish. White people can say I like being Irish. He can say I like being French. You can say you like being your culture, but you can't say you like just having your white skin even though that shit is lit.

Sometimes I be walking out of stores without paying for shit and people just let me, bro. You know how dope that is? You've never done that. Sometimes I gotta walk. Stop it. No, no, no, no. But I forget.

I just forget to pay and I gotta walk back in like, yo, y'all didn't even charge me? That's lit. I gotta walk back. Oh, you never did that. Yo, you have to like grab a girl's bag as like a joke. You ever done that before? Yeah.

What do you mean? Like steal? Yeah, on the train. But like you give it back to her. Just like, I'm just playing. Yo, give me some advice real quick yeah on the podcast yeah b white yeah i can't do that one sammy soza tried it out if you're worried yo uh why haven't you like signed like to like a i don't know i didn't get $60 million offer yet Did they come in 30? No Well 30 for how long? Three years

Depends I don't know I gotta talk to these guys I started to kind of feel like Waving a flag of independence Not just to be independent But to operate Like how y'all have been super organic non like hey this person's policing us i think it's work for y'all and and and i look and

i look at that and i'm like is there ever a price for that yeah netflix paid it yeah but you're still you no no no no i i they didn't pay it in that regard i understand what you're saying and like my whole thing with independence has always been like i want us to be able to say what we want to say make the jokes we want to make have the opinions that we want to have the only way you could do that is if you're not tied to a network that is at the liberty of your opinions like if you're uh let's say for example like netflix right or or hbo or amazon like you know amazon the majority of their business is selling probably home goods, you know, paper towels, food, that kind of stuff. So if they're promoting something that is spicy content, they got to be concerned because they don't want to fuck up the main bag, right?

Netflix, same thing. They might have to be a little bit concerned. So same thing with Apple. You know, like I don't think Apple is going to put out anything that's like r-rated or anything like that they want to sell headphones you have to be concerned with these types of things so i understand where the business has come from so i need to make myself big enough we need to make this podcast big and when it comes to stand up i'm thinking about myself but when the podcast we need to make ourselves big enough where it's worth the risk chapelle can say whatever he wants on a podcast

because he's worth the risk yeah i asked because i whatever he wants on a podcast because he's worth the risk. Yeah, I ask because I feel like for Rogan, he was on the same path, but there was always a price. $100 million, I'm out. Oh. That's why I ask you. I'm like, is there a certain amount you're like, I'm out? Well, I think it's way more than $100 million,

but I won't speak on his numbers, but way more. Well, I don't know. Rumor is $100 a year, but whatever. And this shows how dope he is, that they put the number that was way less than it was and he was like yeah that's it it's no eagle man it's not it's it is it is a super brawler's eagle so here's what i would say about the money this is what the money allows you to do is like the money there's a there's a not only financial freedom but there's like a freedom of your mind like you you're able to like tap out of the thing that i'm sure we go through every single day which is like looking all right how

many comments 2 000 or 2 000 comments on a post okay like once you get that guaranteed check yeah what are they paying for you're already making that money like you could make that money without them that's fine but they're paying for your comfort they're paying for you to go i'm gonna post it because i want to post it if it doesn't have it doesn't have it like you pay for me to post the shit i want to post yeah so i think there's a little bit of that that goes into it but in terms of like my whole thing is as far as like independence goes it gives me the most leverage when it comes to negotiating with these corporations and it allows me to say what i want to say so if i want to do a deal with netflix if i want to do a deal with amazon if i want to do a deal with spotify they know that i don't need them. So now we're coming to the table and we can have a real

negotiation instead of a, this is the check, whether you like it or not, that's what you're getting paid. Well, you talked about raising the independent flag. It's actually the best sales technique because it lets everybody else know the price is way higher than you think. The second you say I'm not for sale, the price is really high if you want to buy me. It doesn't mean I'm never for sale. People know that. There's an amount of money for everyone. But the price goes way up when you say I'm not for sale.

If you say, hey, I'm fielding offers, oh, all right, I'm coming pretty low. But when you say I'm independent, motherfuckers are like, man, if we want this guy, we got to go over the top. It's like a house down on the market, right? Yeah. Exactly.

So it's like, I mean, if I was going to do a movie, if I was going to do a tv show or those type of things and they weren't going to let me film the podcast i would say this is how much i'm losing do you want to pay me that much and then they would have to make that decision because you have to pay me for the job and you have to pay me for what i'm losing yeah so the same thing goes for if we were to go to Spotify or if we were going to go to Apple or we were going to go to wherever the fuck we go

if they make some crazy offer and that's something that we want. The biggest issue with that for me is not really the money. The biggest issue is I like being part of the conversation. I like having this podcast. Like this podcast

is going to stir some stuff up. It's going to be fun. We're talking for four fucking hours. I love it. You know what I'm saying? Like this is going to be like a normal stream for me. That's nothing for you. But we talk. It's we talk it's part of the talent i'm noticing though first

of all you talk this whole time you don't look tired second of all no pee breaks blow my fucking mind pee break thing four and a half hours dog rolls i'm good i'm good i'm gonna make it point is is like is like for me like i love being part of the conversation and but then again i might get to a certain age where i go i i just want to have the conversations I want to have. And that there is a, you know, a tap out price or that kind of stuff like that. But the only reason that you're able to get that is if you would establish what you're willing to say or not say. And the way you establish what you're willing to say is by being independent enough to actually say it. There's a lot of people who like, we know who are not themselves on media and then the second they

get off the media they're like some wild ass boys and we're like oh where is this oh you can't be like that so you have nothing to lose people know who act is they're not gonna find out who act is from a podcast you can act exactly how you act on stream. The great thing, as I'm hopping into the podcast space, is I feel like, and this was one of the great, I always tell people, I'm like, listen, I took the Jay-Z approach. Even sometimes people think I don't like Jay-Z. I'm like, listen, they didn't want to sign Jay,

Jay made his own record label. I was trying to get on radio. I kept hearing from everybody, you got to go intern dissenter. I just made my own platform. And now I'm so just tied into the conversation.

I don't ever really have to worry about okay, and I think that's where in terms of, say I'm going to sign a deal or something like that, it's like, I look at it like this. I've never done a podcast before. I do all these other things. If I could still do all those other things and do a podcast, do I not still affect the conversation?

Now, if it was like, hey, you're doing this. You can't post on Instagram. You're not on Twitch. You're only behind this paywall. Yeah. I think I'd be fucked. Yes, 100%. But I feel like as long as I'm on Twitch,

as long as I'm able to do my YouTube videos You still dropping the shit on IG all the time You're relevant without the podcast right now Yeah and that's what In me hoping To hop in this space That's what I'm trying to see what's going to happen

I hadn't even started the podcast He's thinking about selling it Where do you want to go? Listen man Who do you want to sell out to? Listen He's got it planned out Hey listen

Only thing is I'm just trying to Who's the podcast with? I can't I don't know What's going on? Is it going to be another person? Is it going to be another person on it?

No no no It's going to be Me and Rotating Guest And Rotating Guest Okay great Me and Rotating Guest And also like you know Special guests in terms of like

Celebrities and shit like that. Right. But I'm not trying to get Ruri and Millie Maldon. You know what I mean? All of a sudden, I built two dudes up. They start crying online saying I robbed them. Then everyone hates me. And I'm good.

I'm good. And then they're with Allison. You feel me? Not a job like that. Ak, I like your ascension. I like how you built your own tribe. But the way you've done it, you've kind of not been like an industry darling. Do you feel isolated from your peers?

You know how Charlemagne celebrated. I don't see you celebrated by the industry. Does that bother you? If it bothers me, I think it fuels me. That might be a sign of bothering. I guess it bothers me and it fuels me that might be a sign of bothering I guess it bothers me and it fuels me I think that'll change

I think again to your Perez Hilton point it was new media never seen before eventually it will become the norm exactly I looked at I looked at I looked at like

Well, I guess I'm gonna disrespect them fucking the source. They took something from my twitch They just fucking like clickbait. It was like really a poor article They wrote up saying I hate Meg the stallion cuz she's a black woman Right like like just kind of throw it out there on a clickbait like yo kill him. You know You know what I mean? And I looked at him like, yo, this is. How old is Meg, by the way? She's her 20s. I think she's like 23, 24. 23.

Mad city is 23. But I look at that whole shit. That's a fact, though. That's a fact. Yo, I've never met Meg. I think Meg probably thinks I hate her. But wait, why do people say you hate her? Do you like her? I do like Meg. Do you think she's a her. But wait, why do people say you hate her? Do you like her?

I do like Meg. Do you think she's a good rapper? Yes, I do. Do you think she has mad titties? I will not comment about that because I don't want that to be a headline. No, no, no. I don't even look at Meg sexually, I'm going to be honest with you. Really?

I don't. Height? I think Meg can talk like me. Absolutely. Yeah. Here's the thing. People think I don't like meg yeah because i give objective criticisms about women and this is where it goes back to even the

now you can't do that hill and judge joe brown thing yeah yeah they want me to say meg is phenomenal yeah and i said listen i don't like nikki nikki husband trying to kill me whatever the case is but nikki is a very superb talent in hip-hop. I mean, she can spin, bro. And if we're grading it on that scale, just like we grade Drake on the scale of Jay. I don't think Meg is near Nicki. You know what they say? I hate black women. Because of the narrative around Meg currently, you need to just agree.

Yes. And because I'm not agreeing, it feels like I'm anti-black woman. And I realize it's just horrible. Do you think Tory shot her? I'm going to be honest with you. And Tory's my guy. And I've never talked to Meg. But this is what I think happened.

Okay, hit it. I think there's an argument. I think somehow a gun got pulled out. I don't know if Tory did it or Tory had the gun in his hand. I don't think, just based on her wounds, I don't think she was shot directly. The bullet ricocheted, hit her, but it was at the result of an issue she had with Tory Lanez that happened. There was two other people that the news never mentioned in that story and i'm always shocked and i speak to tori a lot and

he he never says really what allegedly happened but he always says i i am innocent like he swears up and down but you know i'm still not gonna be just a blind dick rider so i'm gonna be like hey i do think she got hit with a bullet not that got shot at her i believe the gun accidentally discharged hit the ground um the bullet then hit her which still you could technically claim you got shot i think that's why tori's going so hard because maybe he wasn't the one with the gun or or maybe he's arguing the semantics i think a lot of the semantics maybe he's like i didn't shoot you. Yeah, the gun shot. But that wasn't my intention. I shot at your feet and then it happened to

ricochet. It's like when you spill your coffee and it goes on your friend. Yo, this shit happened 15 months ago. Like, what? When you throw your coffee at your friend's feet and then a couple of drops get on him? So here's the thing. What Tori has done

is the most impressive run I've ever seen in an artist. So here's the thing. What Tory has done is the most impressive run I've ever seen in an artist. The guy got accused of shooting a human being. A woman. A black woman. Keep in mind, he was coming off a high. Quarantine radio was pulling 300,000 people.

Yeah, which he stole from us, but it's fine. What? No, whoa! Wait, wait! Qu fine. What? Did he? No, whoa. Of course, bro. Wait, wait. Of course, bro. Quarantine radio? Tori Pilford?

Of course, bro. From the Flagrant Boys? No, we did Corona's Got Talent. We were doing Corona's Got Talent, and all of a sudden, quarantine radio popped off. He killed it. Don't get me wrong. He killed it, but that's us. That's not the first time Tori's nipped a little something.

Tori might have Someone in the crew Bro You're fucking Soulja Boy-ing it right now I love it Soulja Boy bro Fuck it man He's Soulja Boy-ing it right now

You're the first The first bro But I think What he's done Is so fucking impressive Like You have the accusation Of shooting a black woman

And then he just releases Non-stop music Non-stop On Instagram Like I'm having Like he hasn't not smiled In 15 months Like all he's been doing a black woman and then he just releases non-stop music. Non-stop on Instagram. He hasn't not smiled in 15 months. All he's been doing is enjoying himself for 15 months. I'm on a boat. I'm making a music video. I'm on a roof.

But it's one of those things you gotta laugh that you don't cry. Because he is blackballed. You've heard nothing on the charts. He dropped a song with DaBaby. Brilliant video. Did 10 million in a week. Didn't chart. Number one on YouTube, right. Yeah, yeah. Brilliant video. Did 10 million in a week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't chart. Didn't chart.

Number one on YouTube, right? Yeah, number one on YouTube. Tried it all the time. Didn't chart. So he's doing one of these things where he's like, I'm going to pretend that that's- Optics wise, it looks like he's great. Yes. I'm pretending none of this shit is happening. They have eradicated him.

I've talked to him, though. The great thing about him, he's like, yo, listen. I'm not going to- And I think this is where 6ix9ine is at right now. 6ix at right now six nine is like yo fuck i'm a numbers guy i love talking with my numbers and y'all blackball me like this is discourage me while tori lanez i talked to him and he's like this is encouraging me i'm going harder and i'm gonna act like nothing's going on and i'm gonna have to that is that is brilliant go and didn't uh tori buy back his masses like isn't he independent now?

Yeah, he's independent. So it's like, even if he doesn't sell crazy numbers, he's still making money. Of course, he's still making money. But like, someone like Tory, when he came in the game, he went out to drink. He wants to get to the top. He doesn't just want to be in the conference or like in the mix. He wants to be at the top. You can't be at the top if the DSPs, and we're realizing what true blackball is.

But who is the mafia that can do that like what who can blackball you who can get you out of here but who are they like who is this group of people that just goes tory's blackballed they're like a news network in a sense they're like mark lamont hill in a sense they're looking at the audience to say wait the consensus is y'all don't fuck with Tory? All right, cool. We don't want to piss you off more by suggesting you Tory's music to listen to. Take him off all playlists.

And who is the person that gets to make that decision? Yeah, like name a name. Who's somebody in that? Who are these incredibly powerful people that are the gatekeepers of fame and fortune? I'm going to be honest. I would think whoever's looking at the optics or bottom line for spotify did you just say the jews no but no no but are there like a group of people is there a conglomerate is there

the person who controls the biggest playlist like 25 million people on spotify is my man carl cherry right and i'm cherry yeah yeah and i've even asked him i'm like yo what's up like why don't you and and i i think it's i think it's bigger than him it's bigger it has to be bigger than him yeah it's like he's a guy he creates one of the best playlists but i think i think it's almost something that is like yo hey listen company-wide if we're supporting these motherfuckers and by the way they it before, but they didn't do it right. They said anyone who had cases of violence towards women

and really indecent shit, take them all off. So they took off Chris Brown, R. Kelly, Michael Jackson. Here's the thing. People love Michael Jackson. So people got mad like, whoa! So really what they were trying to get at was XXXTentacion

Cause his girl had a picture With like a super black eye right And everyone was like No get him off But they made a blanket rule Yeah So the blanket rule hit all time People were like wait

Tupac had a rape case I'm like whoa You're taking on my Pac Pac Yeah So what's happened now The DSPs could be like Yo

What's the consensus about Andrew Y'all don't fuck with him 90% don't fuck with him I just get him out of here Smart You can't do it as a whole You can't be like Yo all comics

That do Blah blah blah blah blah But if you do a one off Where you kind of know the consensus It works I think it's dangerous This is the interesting thing With algorithmic play listing But everything is algorithmic yes yeah but like this is what's

interesting about the algorithm is that before when you would like search for music on apple music or something like that you're searching song by song they just pop up another shit that happened right afterwards now it's we're gonna play music based on the characteristics of this song so other people listen to this song also listen to this other one. Right. But if we find out that every time we play a Chris Brown song, we get complaints at the Spotify headquarters. Why would you suggest this man who's beating a woman, blah, blah, blah. OK, we don't want that smoke.

We'll just not suggest them. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. But that happens everywhere though but but here's where it's interesting there's immense power within the algorithm because if that's the new way we listen to music it's not i'm going to listen song by song choose choose i'm just going to let the algorithm decide what comes next if that is the way we listen to

music that's the new radio if you will like you were saying before and there's a person that's in control the radio saying this guy doesn't get radio play that's the new band from radio that's you are done so who is you who is the person that's making that decision like every app wants to keep you on the app yeah that's the thing right so apps want your time like we don't want you to just come for one thing then leave right yeah so twitter might be like hey but you just skipped a song. It's not a big deal. They don't want skips.

No. They don't want skips. They want you to be a zombie like, hey, just hit play and just listen. It's a cruise control experience. It's like Instagram. It's personal. Put it like this. Instagram shadowbans people all the time.

But here's the thing. This is my pushback when it comes to that kind of stuff is that on YouTube, it's getting 10 million plays. So that means there are people that are enjoying the songs. They're enjoying the time. But here's the thing. This is my pushback when it comes to that kind of stuff is that on YouTube, it's getting 10 million plays. So that means there are people that are enjoying the songs. They're enjoying the music. So there has to be something personal going on here. There has to be a human being. I'm going to keep it true with you. 10 million.

It might not be 10. Told you. Really? Some bots? What happened now, Andrew? You said it, so who? How many bots you think, bro? Hey, listen, listen.

All I'm saying is that if y'all try to blackball me everywhere, I would want people to feel like, no, the people still fuck with me and make at least one outlet. Dude, this shit is chess. Yep. So you know what's crazy is that for a moment in time the music industry which has been like inherently mafia running by mafia i don't just mean italian mafia i mean like controlled by like a select group of people they've controlled who becomes

famous right so control for it still is but for a brief moment in time while we were alive there was there was justice like there was a sound cloud period within music that might never ever happen again and it only happened because of the changing the guard because the internet causes chaos it causes disruption and musicians popped out that the people wanted that had no push from these record labels it was justice and music for a moment and that's fucking gone now. And it sucks. But how cool is it to be around for that time? It was a fleeting moment.

And you know how the music... That's pretty sick, isn't it? The industry treated that like the new piracy of how they were going to handle it. And the way they were going to handle it is that whatever new system or app that comes up with Discovery yeah yeah yeah whether it's soundcloud or tiktok the thing with soundcloud they fucked up because they're a music streaming

app so how their revenue has to be from streaming music yeah tiktok they're just a content app music just happens to be the background and whatever right what the music industry did they said hey well we own all the rights all the shit you're playing we're gonna sue the shit out of you unless you figure it out with us and what um most people did soundcloud did it that's why they're up there soundcloud is owned partially and by the spotify did it too spotify is owned partially by the record labels ah so now hey listen we own this shit that y'all claim y'all finding new rs oh you're finding new rs on spotify adorable it's all good you know i mean so it's like they so that time did that time ever really exist where no they did they use the leverage of

their catalog you could go back and see the articles they're like yo soundcloud you have until this day to strike a deal with us or we're gonna remove all of our catalog from your site and soundcloud they were feeling the pressure they're like hey well could we pay for an extension so they used to do those small sums of money but the industry is looking like we want billions of that's happening on twitch they happen on twitch amazon Music has a deal with the labels. But Twitch, they're like, wait, wait, wait. So you just had a dude with 100,000 people play our song that could have been 100,000 streams. And he played that like five times. That's half a million.

Then he played a bunch of other songs and we own the catalog to all that shit. How much money are we getting robbed for? So what Twitch is trying to do is they're trying to negotiate but they're trying to negotiate like how tiktok did what the way tiktok did they did it smart tiktok showed hey we're not just stealing from y'all we help y'all because we make we make this shit popular yeah so whatever price you were gonna say we to license, you should probably give us some low ball action. You should pay us. We're making your song hot.

Yeah, I'm with that. So now it's probably a favorable thing. Like, hey, you know what? We'll give you a couple seats on the board and some ownership if we pay almost nothing. That's smart. And that's smart. And Twitch is there right now where Amazon is like listen we own you and everything but we got our own deal

y'all figure out what y'all gotta do or y'all gotta stop playing the music cause it's a weird spot so they leverage shit in a very smart way and that's why the music industry won't ever go away it's almost impressive how quickly they got back their stranglehold

on music there i mean there was like a five-year gap where they lost it yeah they sat down they figured it out the same power players adjusted and then immediately got back complete and total control my fear dude it's fucking impressive you need to find out who they are because i bet you it's 10 people well i bet you it's less than 10 i mean i know a couple a couple of names, but I won't mention them. I like what I did. But in every industry, though, like if there's an industry already generating billions, you don't let new discovery or a new app come on top of you. Or if you do, you sell before.

You become MySpace. All right, take it. Let me cash out you get me but if you're the music industry you own the catalog could you imagine conversations you're having with people be like yo you want to fuck with us you'll never hear drake on this fucking app again we own drake's catalog you'll never fucking hear drake you will never hear the weekend that's a lot of leverage that's a fucking a lot of leverage leverage and they they use it well and they use it to kind of get their power back and i gotta give them credit it's diabolical but you gotta give them credit yeah it's like the evil geniuses the film industry

did it better what they how they do it the film industry when pirating started happening like the things they did to pretty much still convince the consumer because even with what we're saying about music people still feel like they don't or they shouldn't have to pay for music the music industry just adopted to the consumer's lack of wanting to pay to say we'll allow you to stream and we'll monetize that some way right the film industry they didn't say hey watch all the movies for free and we'll monetize that some way. The film industry, they didn't say, hey, watch all the movies for free and we'll figure out how to make the income. That's what the music

industry did. So that's what I'm saying. The film industry did it better. Because they never got to this point. They're still struggling, bro. They're doing it now with, hey, if you get HBO Max, we'll just put the movie up there in three weeks. What about Hollywood, though? This is what happened. The reason why Hollywood bends over for China is because they canceled If you get HBO Max, we'll just put the movie up there in three weeks. Watch it at home. And then those studios are upset about that.

Well, what about Hollywood, though? Hollywood is... This is what happened. The reason why Hollywood bends over for China is because they can't sell DVDs no more. So DVDs were a big business. You sold them shizzles, right? No, but half of the big box office for those movies is China. Chinese ladies sell them to us. Yeah, right?

No, but we need... They need to make up their money for in foreign sales. So, and the movies that make money overseas are like action movies. That's why I like Fast and the Furious. That's big money over there. Right? Like a comedy is not big money. They don't understand English.

They're not going to get the cultural nuances of comedy. That's why Netflix, part of why Netflix signed Adam Sandler to such a big deal is because in China, they just love him. They don't have Netflix in China? They don't have Netflix in China. Well, oh, then maybe whoever told me that's an asshole yeah bro

you think they're gonna let us you know infiltrate them with our fun culture no but there are American comedians that are like

physical comedians that do translate Europe overseas he's big and like they just crunch the numbers like they literally crunch the numbers

all the time like remember House of Cards that Kevin Spacey shit they found out that people loved Kevinvin spacey and then they loved who was it david fincher is the uh director or something like that of house of cards for the first one for the first anyway they have this big director they're like oh yeah people love their movies and then they have this actor oh they love him and they literally just like why don't you

guys do something together our fans love it everything's data driven over there yeah adam sandler's movie murder mystery is the same thing oh yeah they people love murder mysteries yeah yeah they love adam sandler make a murder mystery movie comedy fun time yeah i wonder if it reduces the creativity that we see on these platforms once everything becomes algorithmic when you come to them with like some unique idea that's never been proven before so there's no data to prove it works and then they're like we just do things that work over here like oh yeah proved to us it's always been like that it's gonna be more so right like i remember even like uh the under 3000 song could be another fake story i heard but uh i heard a lot of things i heard hey yeah you wanted to put out for years

that's my new source now if i heard hey yeah, hey, yeah, you want to put it out for years, and everybody's like, I don't get it. What is this? And then when they did Love Box or Love Alone Speaker Box, he put that out and just fucking took off. And everybody's like, really? Hey, yeah. They just got to work wild cards into the budget. Like, our budget is going to go towards these algorithmic,

like, data-driven points. But, like, this amount of money is just going to be for lottery. Let's see if something works. And that's the beauty of YouTube is, like like you get to try your shit first yeah how much of like you know even um you know just being creators do you care about or you follow big tech because i don't mean i'm like all right tiktok is a thing i bet i'm gonna put some of the brand on there like i'm figuring out i'm like all right cool if this is you never want to be the person who's like i'm figuring out i'm like all right cool if this is you never want to be the person who's like i'm gonna stay on facebook fuck everything else you know the whole antiquated person i've done that with tiktok a little bit because i was being more political

about it but uh it's such a fascinating fucking app like we got to put some stuff over there the other thing that i think i've lost by not being on tiktok for so long is that like content curation changes like how people create things for the internet yeah is dictated by the the the program they're using the app right so like since i haven't been on the app i'm missing like certain trends i'm missing certain songs that are popping not for dances but like some you know how sometimes people build a joke into a song yeah like this is what it looks like when i do this this is what it looks like when my wife does it and then social media and this is what this is what i look at i'm like

yo it's so people like obviously we strive to you know kind of find that organic growth or whatever yeah like i had a meeting with tiktok yeah when i first like you know got on tiktok yeah and they literally told me they're like yo, you know this bitch They're like you just tell us we're gonna give you the capital of verify. It's like yo, we're gonna hit a lever Yeah, we're gonna hit a lever. It was like some major shit We're gonna hit a lever and you're gonna grow like you've never grown before And I kid you not I I would wake up like a hundred thousand and they were like, yo kid you not i i would wake up and be like a hundred thousand and they were like yo we're promoting you yeah yeah just keep doing what you're doing just bring it over here okay and i'm like

fuck wow and and and i remember like they even told me because i was like i was slacking on the content a bit they're like hey listen we got the lever on you know i mean like you you told because i told him to meet and i was like yo i just want to have all my platforms with a million people yeah and they were like no we'll get you there. Like, just post anything. And I was like, yo, I always, being someone who created shit organically, I'm like, y'all could do this? But also, I realized with Instagram, too. Instagram plays with whatever level they have.

They probably be like, yo, you know what, Charles? You're shadowbanned. Fuck it. You know what I mean? Yeah, they did that. They did that to us. They get upset at you. You post the wrong

shit for sure but it does feel like i don't know tiktok i'm not i don't know it's like i know too many people that just got a million followers out of nowhere for like followers to matter i think the most brilliant thing about tiktok is that it's not the people you follow like tiktok basically said this tiktok is like you don't really want to see what your friends are doing. Yeah. So we're going to remove that for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to see my friend playing with their dog or their stupid birthday party or their kid doing this shit.

Show me the goods, bro. That's a great point. So TikTok is like, we're the explore page and nothing else. Everybody, they even says, when people type it out, it's like a FYP. It's like the for you page. For you. That's it. This is for you.

We got all the bullshit out the way. We got all the birthday parties. They got that shit from Pornhub. Pornhub has a... I'll give you that. They have a For You section, and it's based on what you've been searching. That shit is always so accurate. Porn is the soldier boy of technology, bro.

Kid you not. They always first, bro. I'm telling you, whoever got Pornhub should come out and say it. They do. They say, yo, we invent all this shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway no anyway look Al's about to piss himself we've been talking for

four hours and 45 minutes did you get your 10k from bow out it was 20k oh 20k and truth be told I think we know

the answer to that question I don't know if I can disclose that I think he got some child support proceedings and according to him

he said he'd get 300 dollars a week so no you got a lot of the judge dog hey if you had a baby mama who was child support proceedings. And according to him, he said he'd get $300 a week. So, I don't know. You got a lot of the judge, duh. Hey, if you had a baby mama who was saying that, I don't want to disclose anything,

but he got some child support shit that he did. I can't disclose if he paid me. Because if I tell you he gave me 20 racks, and then the baby mama take this clip and be like,

yo, you heard what the academic said? He got 20 bands. You think this motherfucker can't afford to take this clip and be like, yo, you heard what Academics said? He got 20 bands. You think this motherfucker can't afford to give me 10 bands a month? Well, you tell me after. He got his 20 grand, though. Hey, Academics. Academics got his 20 grand from Bow Wow.

Bow Wow barred it from Jermaine Dupri. And he got his 20 grand. I don't think Bow Wow got cake in there. You think Bow Wow's got some money? Yeah, he's up. You think? He's an actor. Actors don't think Bow Wow got cake in there. You think Bow Wow's got some money? Yeah, he's up. You think? He's an actor. Actors don't make no money.

In what? Lotto ticket? That shit is 2009, bro. No, it's all like CBS Miami. Actors don't make... How much money? CBS. CBS, bro.

He works at CBS? That show with the long receipts and that shit? No. He's in like the forensic team. Hey, they don't make any money. Actors are broke,. He's like the forensic team. Hey, they don't make any money. Actors are broke, son. All these actors are broke.

Oh my God. That guy who's with the... Ah! Chill out. Ah, chill out. The guy with Lori Harvey is not broke. Who's that?

Michael B. Jordan. He's a movie star. Michael B. Jordan. Make like 20 million a movie. He's good. He's a movie star. What about these guys who... Michael B. Jordan's broke.

That's way different than CBS Miami. come out Creed and Fucking a TV show on late night actors actors make some money. He was probably making Actors big what a rat who? Bow-wow on the CSI 30 grand an episode or so like that because he's more known up to 50 Yeah Rappers are the brokest are they really stop it you know

I don't know this I'm being dead serious I'm very excited to know this I know every rapper who lives in Jersey I have the third biggest house of all rappers

really who's number one um 8 Boogie's before me and I forgot the other rapper oh you remember why you not in your head

oh no that's just dope The boogie with the hoodies Got money like that Nah but boogie got cribbed Really Yeah Rented or owned

Um I assume owned But also I fell for that trick I bought a Lambo I was talking to some rappers They're like You bought it Yeah

Yo they looked at me Stupid What's wrong with you Yo We threw it up for a post Like yeah we get Like the lease was covered by the promo. And I'm like, wait, I own this shit forever.

I bought it cash. Like, what do we do? I realized this whole shit is smoke and mirrors. That's smoke and mirrors, dude. Rappers, what people think about rappers. What if they're rich and they're just like, it's a depreciating asset? Why would you do that? No, rappers, people think rappers are just like collecting checks.

Because they show cash. If you showed yo netflix just gave me the bag with like a million dollars in a bag right right bro they would think you get a million dollars every month that's how that's how it looks so rappers show you the money and then you think it's always coming and you think it's always coming in rappers get paid a few times a year yeah you get an advance before an album that's half up front it's almost like a deposit yeah you get the other half when you turn the album. These motherfuckers, some of them, they take long to turn the album. Most of them don't get no royalty statements.

Maybe they have a pub deal this end third. They might get paid twice a year. And then afterwards, they're getting shows. And unless you're like the top of the top who's really caking from shows. And keep in mind, you got a crew of entenses Cars Jewelry All these things You gotta pay for Most of these rappers Truth be told People don't realize

There's many rappers You May know their names They don't make a million dollars Profit They pull in a million They don't make a million profit They're like IG hosts

Of course So what's up with all the cars And the jewelry And all that kind of stuff Do you think Listen The car that Sweetie had That Quavo bought her yeah it's back in the dealership somebody else bought it yeah i saw it for sale yeah most of the shit that's what i'm saying i migos make a million

dollars a year no no no the migos but what do you think the migos make a year because if if you ask me i would think they're making like 20 million each. Nah. I don't think that much. Nah. Well, when people see the lifestyle. Again, you got to look at the lifestyle. You got to do a pocket watching segment on your podcast, dude. Nah, I do. That'd be fun.

Just a whole segment just for pocket watching. Let's go talk to this. This is fun. This is fun. Yo, you know what? Truth be told. I'm finding out people aren't as rich as they think. But none of these. I heard about certain rappers who, I don't want to say this particular

rapper's name, he had to call his... Like, he's in a car dealership. One of the biggest rappers. Had to call his label. Hey, I need this $100,000 to get this car. He still posted the car and flexed on Instagram. Who? Who? Who? Who? What type of rapper? What type of rapper?

Some of the rappers I like. Nah, I can't name them. Nah, I'm sure. Uzi? Nah, who, who, who? I can't name. What type of rapper? What type of rapper? That's one of the rappers I like. Nah, I can't name him. Nah, I'm joking. Uzi? Nah, I ain't gonna let you do it to me. Uzi? I ain't gonna let you do it to me. Uzi, you had to call the label?

Nah, stop it, brother. Dude, not Uzi. Lil Baby? No! No, it's not Baby. Lil Baby? Yo! Nah, nah, nah.

I'm not gonna, because the rappers get very sensitive about their money. Yeah. They lying. I be sensitive, too. It's their whole, their whole act. Yeah, I'm not because the rappers get very sensitive about their money. Yeah, they're lying I'm sensitive to the whole now. I mean also it's not kind of lying to like the top of the Busier baby. Nah, it was a little baby, bro. Nah It was a little baby little baby couldn't pay for his car. He was not supposed to know Dark but you didn't say it's not Lil Uzi. So it's Uzi, bro? It's Uzi, yeah.

With all his phantom? Well, not phantom. It's his Bugatti. His million-dollar Bugatti, bro. Rappers have outlandish expenses. You leased that diamond in his head? What's going on? Just to speak on Uzi,

and I fuck with Uzi, I heard Uzi pays some ridiculous amount in, like, insuring. I don't know if it's insuring and payments per month for his car collection. Like something to the tune of like almost a million a year. Just think about expenses.

A million a year in insuring those cars. Now I got a couple cars and it does cost a lot. He has about eight times my collection. He has a car that costs like 4 million dollars The Bugatti Oh that shit is super customizable

And where is he generating his money from? Music Is music paying like that? But that's the thing Rappers You look like you're frugal In terms of If you made 2 million dollars

Well you're white you probably spent 50 if you made $2 million, well, you're white. You probably spent $50,000. You're not even doing too much. You're doing, like, he's keeping it at the minimum. Rappers, they make a million. They're spending 1.2. Rappers are spending the money. They're negotiating already.

Wow. Like, what's the next deal going to be? I bet. I'm in a dealership tomorrow. Were there any that did it smart, though? That's the saddest shit I've ever heard. No, it's fine. But for most of them, it's like, what were you saying?hip tomorrow were there any that did that's the saddest shit i've ever heard no it's fat but but for most of them it's like what were you saying like were there

any that did it smart like i always hear about like rick ross like buys a bunch of like wing stops or whatever like are there any rappers that we put out of the equation that are actually like set financially i'm gonna be honest most rappers who are in the game long enough to learn it it's like a kid learned to ride a bike there you go that makes you you come in the game and you've seen everybody do it this way yeah and you're like all right i gotta do it this way and then you realize later on when you're actually when taxes come get get at you when your house is about to get foreclosed you're like yo i gotta start that's when you see they stop copying new chains every fucking week. Like, it's not feasible to be like, yo, it's a new piece.

And then you see the new piece. You know what I mean? Like, I've seen Yachty show me a million dollars in jewelry. Some of those jewelry he won't even wear ever. Why? Well, he bought it at a time when it was all about just showing it off. But they're old now. Like, he doesn't wear that much jewelry yeah yeah yeah yadi's on tiktok kicking it yeah and killing it too yeah yeah so now it's like what is that

million dollars in jewelry really worth to you maybe you should try to get your money back somehow so a lot of rappers are bad with money management also you're playing the game of keeping up with the joneses okay you got got a Maybach truck I gotta get one too You got a this I gotta get one too There's a comedian friend of ours Named Damian Lemon And he said dudes will go broke Trying to impress broke dudes

That's great fuck that's a bar That's a fact Like the thing with music Is you can see the wealth Like niggas wear their riches and they show you it I just copped this here's the money in the bag

like no one says yo listen I got the money in the bag that sounds weird rappers act as if like rappers act as if like every person they meet is like you ain't rich you know what I mean but look at my backpack I promise I'm rich I mean? But look at my backpack. I promise I'm rich.

I have a million dollars in my backpack. I did that dumb shit one time too. Like in terms of not like what they're doing, but I'm like, you know what? Maybe I should just have like $10,000 to $15,000 in cash just in a safe. Like in the house. Like let me just leave it there. And, you know, know rainy day who knows and then after a while i'm like why is it here yeah what i remember going going into the safe and i'm peeling off like 200 bucks as i was going to the store and i'm like this is a box they accept card you can buy your groceries with fucking credit but that is somehow it's a mindset

that's poisoned like you know a lot of people that come up idolizing that rapper lifestyle. You kind of want to, if you're not showing it, you don't got it. Yeah. A lot of things in music is kind of sick. But you know that's an American thing. No, no. A lot of things specifically with rap is very sick. I'm saying rap is a microcosm of American culture, in my opinion.

American greed and American, you know. We're immigrants, dude. Like we're immigrants. We came from nothing. The second we got something, we want to show it off. That's America. Look how big the fucking plates are of food. Like if you go to France, the plates is just enough.

Everything has its purpose, right? Because they've been around for thousands of years. They figured out what their fucking culture and identity is. Americans, it's like everybody here, all of our parents, if our parents aren't immigrants, our parents' parents are immigrants, right? So everybody was broke. They came here like, nah, I made it. Streets are paved with gold.

Like this place didn't attract people who didn't want to make money. They said the streets got gold. So the gold digginess of motherfuckers on the planet came here and they're like we're here to dig and show our relatives we got it they legitimately told my mom and her village back in like the 50s probably that when you open the faucets in america and turn on faucet honey comes out instead of water i'll give you they didn't even have faucets the first time when i came to amer, I was born in Jamaica, right? The first time when I came to America, the way they described America, I thought the plane was gonna

land on the clouds. I thought that was America. They made it sound like paradise. And I was like, well, if if what y'all are talking about is paradise, and I live down here, this fucking plane about to land on the clouds, and I'm about to hop on something like oh this shit is cushy like damn we don't need no

shoes be good yeah and then when i landed in jfk and it was like sleet and i was like this is disgusting how is this paradise they killed it for me real quick yeah but that's true man that's what we all want we all want to show off we all want to get something and then i think after a while like you you hear the term like old money in america it's like all those people that were old money like the fucking kennedys and shit they all made their money selling drugs or selling alcohol they were doing foul shit and they were just as glitzy and glamorous and then after a few generations they were like oh okay we're not supposed to be glitzy and glamorous let's just calm it down a little bit and then this whole idea of like class comes around like class is the most bullshit fucking idea i'm realizing class is just a way where rich people can shit on people who just

became rich okay like that's the whole thing it's just like oh you show off your money oh yeah you don't do that once you've had it a while. Yeah, it's new money right now. So I was just out in the Hamptons. You know the thing in the Hamptons is you get an old car and you leave it beat up. What? You get a real old classic car. Old classic car. You guys start watching his pockets yet?

You guys got to do the Rory and Millie moments. Start watching his pockets. Is he showing his tail? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is he showing the shit? Now you bring it up Everybody gets a look at the books Yeah I know Our books are open

My share, your share And what you don't need to give a fuck about In total For this podcast I know the numbers For his Netflix deal I just guess I never asked to be honest I thought it'd be awkward to even ask yeah mark knows it mark is a co-creator he got a piece of it yeah mark is richer than me for sure ever since you bought the bitcoins probably yeah i'm gonna be honest with you one of the

dopest things like you know you gotta share You got to share, man. If you make money, you got to share. Yo, what Charlamagne always did that helped me, like, just talking to me, like, from way back. Even early Breakfast Club days. He was never, like, he always disclosed, like, yo, this is what I'm getting. And I always thought, I felt really privileged to even get that information. Because I got to have a sense of what reality was. Yeah. You know what I mean? get that information because i got to have a sense of what reality was yeah you know i mean that's why i like you know at certain times i'm like well my guys like honestly lying to me like he's

telling me this is what reality is but this other nigga's told me i might be on some shit you know i mean so like you gotta share information man you gotta share information especially when it pertains to like i don't know like money. It seems braggadocious, but if you let people know what their expectation is and then they can achieve it, you know, like you find out, like put it this way,

Joe Rogan or the dick sucking girl, like getting crazy money from Spotify. So you disrespectful man. Her name is Alexandra, the dick sucking girl. Every girl sucks dick. Why do you call her the dick sucking girl? She's the dick sucking girl.

She's the dick sucking girl. Again, I'm the Indian. She's like Supreme talent? She's the dick sucking girl. She's the dick sucking girl. Again, I'm the Indian. She's like Supreme Town. She's the dick sucking girl. I'm tight-fused. Man, Tiana Trump the dick sucking girl. Nah. You see that?

She ain't got no 60 million. Her dick sucking ain't worth it. She don't got $60 million dick sucks. Yo, she tweeted out that she fucking for like 500 bucks. Well, she got better get a podcast. Yeah, she better. She need a podcast. That's your new co-host.

We got to get Deanna on the podcast immediately. But wait, what was the point we were about to say? Sharing information. Oh yeah, it's like the second you found out

she gets 60 million from Spotify, now if you do a deal with Spotify, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yo, here's the thing though, pocket watching can be positive and negative.

Let me tell you this. This is where Complex fucked up. Okay. The moment, and I remember like just even being around people who were barely above intern status yeah and they could see like shit that should only be privy like there's a lot of pimping going on like the workplace like capitalism is pimping yes yo you make i'm giving you 15 an hour you're making me 200 an hour okay now if you knew you're making me $200 an hour.

Okay? Now, if you knew you were making me $200 an hour, you're going to be a little bit upset. I think the way that I've heard it said is, if an employer paid an employee what they're worth, they wouldn't make any money. Yeah, but also, if the employee knew what they were making the employer fully, you would never be happy with what your paycheck is. I don't know. That depends. I'm going to be honest with you. If I knew I made somebody $5 million and they paid me $200,000, I'm not happy.

Because now I'm like, damn, why can't I get a half? Why can't I get one-fifth? You start almost bargaining. You're bargaining with what you made someone as opposed to what you're being given you almost become ungrateful your ego steps in to a certain extent and then like you reach certain amounts of money and that you can't fathom and then that goes away i got a buddy of mine who's uh who he's in the nba and he like um i don't like saying what he does at the nba but basically in con in terms of contracts with players sometimes you'll offer a contract to a player and this is a human being that cannot fathom the amount of money that you just put on a check and that might not be the max contract say what sound like that's

a general he's he's up there so that that might not be a max contract but it might be a few million off a max contract but you're looking at someone who goes if i signed on that line right there nobody in my family will ever have to think about a certain thing again and then all of a sudden you start to go that's enough 25 million instead of 28 million is enough well it's 24 well it's 23 you know what i mean and you're not resentful you get to a certain amount of money where you're just like, I'm doing pretty fucking good. I believe that. I believe that. But still, I think even LeBron James would probably guess like $30 to $40 million a year.

LeBron is the most underpaid athlete in history. But he's probably going to- If we saw it on paper, I'm pretty sure he could probably do a good estimation himself. Like, yo, you just made the NBA $4 billion, and you got paid $30 million. Like, you tight. I think the Lakers make $40 million a year. The franchise.

He's trapped in a system where there's nothing you can do about it. But that's what I'm saying about accounting. If it's your boss, and you feel like you're like an integral part of it, and you're not that replaceable you might be like fuck it i'm going on strike yeah give me a hundred million i'm going on strike now in nba you can't do that like they're so tied into it's so tied into like you know these labor contracts it's like yeah all right well we have a players union this at third go on strike

motherfucker well that's where the issue is leverage how replaceable are you if you're just a fucking intern you're just a fucking intern, you're just a fucking intern. I will easily find another fucking intern. If you're a guy that can't be replaced, my leverage is, hey, I'll walk. And then they're going to be like, fuck, we got to pay this guy. Let's figure this out because I can't lose him. I can't replace him. Everybody thinks about like, you know, ways that they should be making more, how they make more money.

Have you never had a contract or money dispute with your homies no never but but i've also i'm also like i don't know i'm pretty i try to be pretty fair overly fair with when it comes to money and stuff but like what i what i try to do is incentivize effort right so it's like everybody thinks that they're being underpaid right but if you create an environment where they can make money, they just have to suggest things, ideas, et cetera. They can make money. You know, like Mark busted his ass on the Netflix special.

So he made a lot of fucking money on it. And he earned it. Busted his ass. You know? He should be richer than me. He don't seem like he's complaining. No. I've always said that.

He's taking advantage of opportunities same with alex say alex never had to ask me for a raise i'm coming he's pimping him anymore no but but in all seriousness like like i'll just fucking i mean i don't want to disclose you know information but like he just fucking murdered when we did this music video and i pulled him aside i was so impressed with what you did you know like and like i don't know i like to create that kind of environment where it's like incentivize. Hey, you got an idea. You want to cook something up.

You can make money at it. This is for everybody. We're here for everybody. You want to make some money. Think of ideas that make us some money and guaranteed you make some money. That, that is anybody wants to bring ideas to it. The best idea wins. I have no ego when it comes to it.

You guys, I have ego. I'm not saying I don't have ego. But when it comes to an idea, if you guys have a better idea, have I ever said, no, we have to go my way? No. Let's win. Say again? We're about to get hot, son.

We're about to get hot. It's good weather here. It's about to get hot. It's different hot. It's actually hotter here. It's about to get hot. It's really... It's different hot. No, but it's actually hotter here pretty much every day in Miami so far. Wouldn't you guys want to be more around... It's driving me a little crazy.

No, you know why I think a big reason you want to come back, and this is why I didn't argue, I think a lot of his stand-up is, and he's mentioned this to me, so I'm not fucking revealing anything, but it's fighting back against the noise around him. And in new york there's a lot of people who are always offended by this or offended by that in miami it's a vacation city everybody's just like dude we're happy to be here and that's great it's amazing miami's when he said that i was like

yeah man all right let's go back for me things to do man i got a special to do like there's work that we gotta do but we're gonna i like the idea of taking say what yeah i was in a club last night i was like oh it's back oh it's crazy it's like 1200 people that shit was no no we're back like yeah our mask wasn't in sight everybody's coughing on each other like it's lit people sharing drinks no we're back yeah we're back we're fucking back anyway yo act tell them where they can find you bro this has been a five we did five hours yeah longest ever i think this is the longest podcast we ever did bro it's five hours man it's average switch average twitch man tell them where they can find you man uh you can definitely find me on instagram at academics you know that's where i keep up with uh the happenings

of hip-hop i'm on twitch as well um i'm telling you it's a great Watch on Twitch If you've never done Twitch before This is a good entry way to Twitch You get warmed up Like you play some music and that kind of shit But once you start the shit talk Someone told me That's when it dawned on me

That's when I started looking into the podcast thing Because they said Yo what you're doing on Twitch You're doing a podcast every time you go And I wasn't thinking about it like that I started thinking about it more like a show They said, yo, what you're doing on Twitch, you're doing a podcast every time. Yeah. A hundred percent. And I wasn't thinking about it like that. Yeah. I started to think about it like more like a show because I started having like, hey,

let me have my topics in order. Like, yeah, I want to talk about this. And once I started talking about it, I almost black out, you know, like in a sense of like, I'm passionate about most of the shit I'm talking about. And the great thing about it too is like you know, for my time and like everyday struggling, like working at Complex is like, they're giving you topics and like some of the things I really don't give a fuck about.

Like on this platform, it's whatever I feel. Only you care about. Yeah, so I'm passionate about everything that I'm going to talk about or I wouldn't talk about. Yeah. So I think that's a great experience for like, you know, a viewer who you know, likes kind of conversation. And I won't say it's as wild as what y'all got going on.

We'll see. That shit get pretty wild, bro. I mean, yeah. It's wild. So check him out. YouTube. And also, really, my podcast is coming next month. What's the name of it?

I don't know if I can name it. I don't know if I can tell the name. They're running it through a whole thing to make sure I'm not breaking people's trade. I don't know. What's the tentative title? I can't give it out. They're doing a trademark search. This is your big announcement. What I would like

for y'all to do though, because I would like for y'all to be on my podcast. Of course. We're there. I would love to have you guys guest. We're there. I watch you guys all the time. I think you love to have you guys guest. I watch you guys all the time. I think you guys, the path you guys have built and where you guys are going, I'm like, this is genius.

I always appreciate genius when I can say, if I wasn't doing what I'm doing, I want to do that shit. And that's dope. So I like what you guys are doing, but make sure, guys, you know, you guys got to be

one of my first guests. We in there. We in there, 100%. And then we're going to slander everybody you don't like. Exactly. All right. You know what I mean?

Yo, thank you so much, guys. Give it up for Mad Titties. Yeah. All right, y'all. It's been player two. Peace. alright y'all it's been player 2 peace