Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Drake's Newest Song Is A HOAX | Patreon Clip

Episode Date: April 3, 2020

What up people, Schulzy, Akaash and Mark breakdown why Drakes Newest Single Toosie Slide is a manufactured hoax to manipulate you. Did Drake fall off? Is he being too thirsty? INDULGE

Drake you heard about Drake no I heard the song so Drake put a dance move in the fucking chorus yeah he literally took the I did a two-step and a town boogie whatever it is he crafted a song specifically to break the internet. Right. Which I wonder if the internet starts to, because right now, you know, the dance crazes are popping, obviously TikTok, Instagram, everybody's doing it. Right.

He puts the dance move in the song. I wonder if the internet rejects it because they're like, hey, hey, hey, we know what you're trying to do to us. I don't think they will. Maybe if he does this again, I think this is the first time maybe people will be like, you're just going to do. But I think they're still going to do it. But the best, even the Kiki thing, that wasn't supposed to be a dance. That's when it works, when it's not supposed to be. It's a song.

But he literally made it to be that. He basically made the Macarena. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I wonder if the internet and people will reject the inorganic-ness of it. It's like, oh, you just trying to create. It's contrived. You're trying to make a viral craze. But I think people are still going to put it on their fucking TikToks.

And that's what he's going for, right? Just put me underneath your TikToks. Yes. Do you think that they'll reject it, Mark? I don't think so. And to be completely frank, I think all the other parts of his career. Can you be frank, though? I'm going to be frank.

Hey, hey, hey, bro. Hey. It wasn't just white words. It was the way you say it. And to be completely frank. No, no. Because I've never seen someone be partially frank. Can you be partially frank?

Can you do that? No, I don't do that. You never partially? I'm either entirely frank or I'm 0% frank. Yo, but how would one be partially Frank? Well, let me be partially Frank for a second. If you want me to be partially Frank, I'll show you. So yeah, to be partially Frank, meh.

All right, go. Be completely Frank. Okay, so to be completely 100% Frank, I think that all the shit like memes and stuff that launched Drake's career, I kind of think he had. Oh, my God. You good? I had a Frank in my throat. Son!

Son! Oh, yeah, no. If anything, you had a lot of Franks. You were being too Frank right there. Even your throat was like, yo, chill out, bro. There's a lot of Frank coming out right now. If somebody's used to having Franks in his throat, though, it's got to be Gagnon, right? That's what he's gagging on.

Go, go, go, go. So I think all the memes that launch his career, I think he had an integral part in creating this culture. Like the Kiki challenge, all that shit. But that didn't launch him, right? That happened at the peak. But I think that's all stuff that's in his- You think he's behind it? Not behind it in a literal way, but he sees, stuff that's like, You think he's behind it? Not behind it

in like a literal way, but like, he sees, what's his name, Shiggy's doing it and he goes, all right, I'm going to retweet Shiggy

and put Shiggy on. Like, he sees people doing stuff that's going to make him pop. He goes, yep. And then he gives them platform and then other people are like,

oh, I want the platform that Drake gave that person and then that's how he creates the movement. Yeah, 100%. I do think that's how

he creates movement, but usually so far with him, it started from an organic place that he rewarded. I don't know, though. He's saying it's not even him. Some of it. Him rewarding it is intentional in that like, oh, now everybody's going to start doing this thing because I rewarded it. And then my thing gets even more popular and I get even more.

And that might be his mentality, right? His mentality is. Remember when he goes, yo, make me the chips with the dip. I want the chip with the dip when the Raptors were in the in the nba finals yeah and he goes make a meme about it like he literally said in the quote chips with a dip make it a meme right and and i think a lot of people in entertainment understand that we even say that sometimes there's oh that's gonna be a funny meme this at the other so i don't think he's ignorant to it right i just don't i just think uh chips with dip is a chip with a dip is like a funny saying and he's like calling out what he knows will happen

like when i had black black young son brilliant idiots he was like if i do something alive and it doesn't become a meme it was worthless because he's going for the meme he goes if you do the meme people promoting you without you doing nothing right interesting the fact that he's choreographing a dance into the song is one extra thing i think if you do something organic and cool where you're like ah now they're gonna meme this shit that's different than going here is the way to do this so if he said chips are the dip yo do that thing where you wait and here's the meme you take the chip and you put it here and then post that yeah now it's now now we can get the memes out we don't want to feel we want to feel like we did it on our own this is what it is mark it's the egg in the fucking cookies so mark was telling me about this shit where

Betty Crocker Back in the day they had the cookie mix Everything already done You just add water and then mix it And it's done and bitches didn't buy it Why didn't they buy it? They didn't feel like they were cooking So you know what Betty Crocker did?

They said hey can you just add an egg Now there's already probably other eggs In the fucking batter yeah but the fact that women added one egg they thought that they were cooking and then sales skyrocketed yeah i think what drake did right now he didn't let people add the egg he put the egg already in there right i'm gonna make this already finished for you yeah nah that's that's nah yeah like even if he did the song but didn't do the dance in the song let people make up the man the dance themselves i think that would be greater because then a shiggy would come out with his version of dancing might even be crazier than the one that drake crafted yeah and that would be the one copied yeah but the fact that you established what the dance should look like now there's no wiggle room now we can't get creative right we

want to create the meme on something that gets us the credit yeah we want to repost the thing so that we look cool we look funny we don't just want to copy it you know where this dies if black people feel that way and they don't fuck with it yes because everything comes from what's the one right now the take your time challenge what's that one it's a bunch of girls who will like glow up basically like they'll show themselves looking kind of raggedy and then they'll like take a makeup brush on the camera and then you you pull it away and then they look they look fine as fuck right and they'll like throw the makeup brush in a certain way and then the next person will look like they caught it from that exact angle and they're looking raggedy and then they glow up and then

you pass it on right uh it's a bunch of female comedians at a funny one amina amani yamanika marie faust and all them right but it's just like it's like a thing that you're seeing now right and if black people don't fuck with this drake thing white people aren't gonna fuck with this take your time thing white people are gonna eventually start doing as well yes because it got cool black people made it cool but if black people don't make this cool it's not moving and a black dude might feel like there i can't do the egg where's my egg i want to add the egg yeah it's like that flip the switch challenge yeah i forget the exact line but flip the switch it wasn't intended to be a tiktok sensation maybe it was right but it left enough breathing room for the person to go yo it'd be funny if we just switch outfits right on that line.

And then they switch. He's literally like, take your foot, move it to the right, move it to the left. He's got a hoedown. He's doing a fucking country line dance. Country line dance don't go viral on TikTok. So he was way less nuanced with this, and you think it's going to punish him.

Listen, he might be too big to fail. might be boeing he might be gm he might be the banks where like he's so big motherfuckers are going to do it anyway etc that's what i think and that's possible but i think at least in my experience watching these things that the greatest viral moments appear organic even if they're completely constructed and they completely manipulate you into doing a thing they let you think you thought of it by yourself yeah it's like we're talking about some magic tricks yesterday you want the person to think that they were in control of everything that happened here even though you were pushed into a position to guess a number right pushed into position to

guess a card you were manipulated into the choices you made but you had to make them but if the magician was like hey choose this card what's this card now i'm gonna guess your card it's like motherfucker you just told me yeah you told me what card to guess of course you could do it right you got to nudge him it's it's it was push not nudge right and again he might be too big to fail but i think that that's a huge uh misstep for drake with this like it's almost like a lack of confidence or something it's like dog have confidence if you just put it in a like a lack of confidence or something. It's like, dog, have confidence if you just put it in the title,

they're going to do it. Yeah, he don't normally come across thirsty like that. I still think people are going to do it and then do their own variation of it and try to see

who got the hottest one. Yeah. But I don't know if it'll be as viral as the ones that seem organic. I don't think it can. The Shiggy shit was so raw. Yeah.

Shiggy was like, for the people, man. Shiggy was never on a show. He was never on any of these corporate outlets. He was for the people. He was really everybody's best kept secret

on Instagram. Right. He was just this hilarious guy that was doing these characters and having these funny skits all by himself. It was low budget. Yeah. And then he created something that was doing these characters and having these funny skits all by himself it was low budget yeah and then he created something that was hysterically in his fucking flip-flops doing his crazy dance on his street right and in fact it touched drake everybody

was like yo yeah that's our guy yeah i don't know if you can top down this thing so you're saying if drake just put the lyrics didn't show the dance he'd be better off and then he'd be better off if he did that and then maybe tap somebody that he thought was cool and be like yo do me a favor can you dance like this and i'm gonna retweet it i don't think he would do that because i think it'd make him too vulnerable but if you're a real architect though that's how i would do it i would go yo we just gotta let it be at a certain point of time yeah i think at a certain point in time. Yeah. I think at a certain point in time, you just got to let the people decide.

Don't be the dictator. Be the representative democracy. You know, be the president that's out there going, I'm going to trick you motherfuckers and thinking you want this. Patriot act it. Yeah. Right.

Like we're talking about Patriot Act, like, and we were talking about about how people pass bills. You know what you have to do? You've got to name the bill something that you can't say no to. Imagine you're a senator of the United States of America, a patriot who believes in this country, and you vote no to the Patriot Act. Now, what is the Patriot Act? I get to steal all your shit and look at what you're doing.

That's not patriotic. But if you name it that shit, how can you say no? Yeah. The I Want to Protect Women Act, you're going to say no? Yeah. You're going to vote that down? That's a great move. Yeah.

There's something to this. No, 100%. I'm curious to see if it doesn't resonate, bro. And also, the dance is kind of boring. Right? Yeah, I highly doubt Drake can dance, i i think people will try to make it their little hot shit and then it will die out a little quicker than like the switch it up or whatever these other challenges are we'll see we'll see i don't know man because that's the fun

of the switch it up challenge is like you're seeing a dad do it with his daughter and he's wearing that like if you can find the fun in it they'll whatever and if you can find the fun in making it the silliest version of the dance or the hottest version of the dance then we'll watch it like what's fun about that dance it's just side side I honestly didn't even see it I heard the song

I didn't see the video I think it's contrived and it's boring I mean yeah I'm not surprised and this isn't a knock on Drake I think Drake is the best artist of his time It's contrived and it's boring. I mean, yeah, I'm not surprised. And this isn't a knock on Drake. I think Drake is the best artist of his time. Yeah. Undeniably so in a lot of ways.

Yeah. I mean, he came at the tail end of Jay, but like literally nobody's fucked with him during his time. It's his, the amount of time he's gone without taking any kind of real dip. Yeah. Like the Pusha T thing, he lost, but it was more like we all felt a little shine take off him but his sales didn't suffer streams didn't suffer the

kiki challenge and kiki challenge shut everything down a month later i think this is the first time i think you said right where he's thirsty i like jay always said the opposite right jay always came through he was like yo change clothes yeah like every time you thought jay might be getting old or washed instead of coming through and going hey what are you guys doing i'll do it with you son he every rapper was talking about getting all these bitches and jay still talked about it then what did he do though i got one he got monogamous with one and he made that shit so hot it was such a bad bitch you're like oh i guess that's all right y'all out there putting money to your ear yeah you. We don't call that money over here. Jay's always been the contrarian.

Yeah. I'm going to fuck with Art. Do you know what I mean? Jay's always been the guy who did things different. Literally, bro. Everyone's shit on the NFL. I'll join. Yo!

100%. And that has worked for him. And I don't think Drake has ever been a person who like jumped on trends. I think he'd been someone who popularized them. Some of you might look at me and be like, oh, that's not true. Dance hall music was popular. These things. He caught the trend early enough.

Boom. That he seemed like he was on the forefront of it. Boom. He caught it early enough. And you said this. He's really good at knowing what artists could pop. Let me work with Amigos and then make them hot. But they're keeping me hot because i'm

on the forefront of this trend the best a and r in the business yeah 100 and it's a genius it's like a level of genius to it and that's what's kept his rank because if i'm constantly being with what's hot how the fuck am i not going to be hot that's it i'm constantly associated with the hottest thing and then people start going you are defining what's hot yeah you're a tastemaker yeah and that is an interesting point about jay and the contrarian but i i man the push thing you know what i think it is that was him feeling like he took a loss and i think he feels like he hasn't recovered like he's doing hour-long interviews he's addressing it push ain't saying shit most of us i'll bring it up because i hate drake and I love Push.

But like most people on the day to day, if you bring up Drake, it's not the first thing that comes to mind. No, it's over. He keeps making it a thing. Yeah. And I think personally he's fucked up. So he's like, let me do this to get back on the map. And real talk, he's put out songs since.

Nothing's really hit. Like he's put out a couple little singles, right? He always throws out a little shit. He put out a couple songs when the Raptors won. not the hit oh i didn't know that yeah so like he's put out stuff since and it hasn't super resonated not saying every song gotta resonate right but maybe he was like all right i need something to really stick yeah i need something really i mean we felt like that before like we're putting out you know new clips every single week and every once in a while you know we're like no no we need something we need a banger we need to let motherfuckers know yeah and he did put out a couple songs right

yeah but this i don't know if it's necessarily that i'm not sure this did also kind of happen to jay after naz where like jay kept bringing it up and jay kept it seemed like jay was more bothered by it than anybody else. Interesting. The world will mostly forget, especially with Drake. But the world will mostly forget about Ether if you just stop bringing it up. Yeah. But Jay would keep bringing it up.

Someone was saying that, I think it was on The Breakfast Club, matter of fact, that Drake is about to get the biggest bag in music history when he because he no longer is under a record deal and he's releasing everything on like sound cloud and youtube and shit yeah and the next deal he signs might be an exclusive deal with a streaming platform so apple music spotify is that you read anything about that yeah i saw that same interview same okay so boom so which is really interesting because if that's the only place you can get that new Drake

you need to sign up for it motherfuckers will go now that didn't work with Beyonce did not Beyonce and Jay tried that with Tidal yeah

and people are like nah we'll wait yeah but Drake ain't gonna try to prop up his own platform he's not gonna create he's gonna already go to the most popular

he's basically Spotify and Apple music going back and forth and you're like which one of y'all want me yeah uh and i'm not even saying it's a knock joe budden joe budden got the bag went to spotify exclusively and he's doing fine yes because spotify is huge and spotify is spending money right now the amount they could throw a drake is nuts. It would be crazy. It would really qualify them. Yeah. So he's in an interesting situation, and maybe he's feeling like, I kind of need a banger during this negotiation to let motherfuckers know.

Right? Like, what do you do if you're in a contract here? Yeah. Oh, you go ham. You pad the stats. Yeah. Right? I averaged a triple

double last year you better fucking give me the max contract right right right so maybe he's trying to go hey here's what i can do look at the numbers look at all those streams wouldn't you have liked all those look at all the tiktok plays wouldn't you have liked the tiktok yeah yeah so do you do it do you think this is like a deviation from Drake's authentic self or do you think he was always a little disingenuous I've never liked Drake because he's always been a little disingenuous that's how I feel

I like him for that reason though I like him for the sense that he like he presents himself in a public image but I think he's like much more specific in the way he's crafting and sort of like creating his identity and like his his position in the digital space you appreciate the architect that is drake right i agree with that 100 but i don't think this is a deviation from his authenticity i think he's always been a little bit phony yes and that's to his advantage because that's why

people love him yes and when you're ph, you're willing to sacrifice your authenticity a little bit. You can all of a sudden just speak in a Jamaican accent. You can all of a sudden sound like you're from Houston, whatever, like you can manipulate yourself and chameleon yourself so that you can ride certain trends or create certain trends. So it is an advantage. If people don't smell out the inauthenticity.

And that's what he's so good at. Yes seems he's ryan secrets ryan secrets can be excited and enthusiastic about the most boring shit you've ever seen in your entire life here's patty from oklahoma and her mom is out here and there and he's smiling here the ball's about to drop and you're like motherfucker how do you seem authentic about this shit so this is what drives me crazy and i think i would assume you too because both of us really value authenticity we hate fraudulence yes when somebody's like famous famous and they don't seem authentic to me i'm like how the fuck do people not see this and i think the answer is most people don't really care don't be a complete phony and be a scumbag. But if you're a little bit phony,

eh, it doesn't, and to me it doesn't make sense, but to most people it's not that big of a deal. I think that, all right, what if we use the word corny

instead of phony? Okay. Because corny, I think people will accept. Corny will, I will accept. I think that if we, I think we accept corniness

with greatness. If you're whacking corny, fuck out of here. Yeah. But if you're nice, like Drake is nice. Right. And he got a little corniness to him.

Right. But in a way, corniness is authentic. Yeah. Like when you see someone doing something embarrassing, Yeah. you can attach yourself to that

because you're like, yo, man, I felt awkward. Yeah. I felt embarrassed. Like I've done stupid shit like that. It humanizes you, you think? A hundred percent. And maybe he needs the,

that is to Drake's credit. Somebody said this before. He's the most relatable rapper. Like he has bars that make you, how often you listen to Drake bars and go, all right, nah, working on a weekend like usual. That's what we do we work on weekends right that simple ass line made me go i want him to say say the line even if you're a fry cook at

mcdonald's you're like yo i'm working on a weekend yeah and what what does he put in the video working as a fry cook i relate to you i'm with with you. So even if he is slightly authentic in his shit, he makes up for it with truly penetrating, relatable lines. And he also is so good at, Jay always had to be the coolest guy in the room. You don't. Drake never,

and I don't know if Drake is so good because he's from an actor background. Yeah. Most rappers do it the opposite. But Drake will do these funny ass sketches with the Toronto Raptors where he's the one acting up and he's from an actor background. Most rappers do it the opposite. But Drake will do these funny ass sketches with the Toronto Raptors where he's the one acting up and he's the one being silly. The dance video with Chris Brown where he's like

getting his ass kicked in the dance battle. Drake is always willing to be the butt of the joke. He doesn't have to look cool all the time. So maybe you're just like, yeah, he's corny. That's authentic. Where to me it's like, oh, that's contrived corniness even. I think he knows he's smarter than everybodyved corniness even but i think he knows he's smarter than everybody not everybody but i think he knows he's smarter than all these other

rappers yeah so i think he feels extremely confident when around them because he's like yeah i'm 10 times smarter than all you guys like i'll write i'll write better bars but i'm also smarter so like i'll make fun of myself because i never feel insecure around you yeah it's hard to like make fun of yourself when you're around people that make you feel insecure. Look at Charles Barkley. Look at Shaq. Yeah. Charles loves it

when he's made fun of. Yeah. He embraces it. Yeah. He'll roll back and forth with you. Shaq, oh,

how many rings you got? Yeah. He gets upset and angry. You're not a champion. It's the most unlikable part of Shaq. It's awful. And the most likable part

of Charles. Yeah. And maybe, maybe it just takes an extreme confidence and i have actively had to work on getting better being made fun of because if you get made fun of and you like bristle at it and fire back you look like an asshole more often than not yes you can laugh at yourself it's like all right fair enough yeah how can i hate the guy who's okay with all the shit i would say about him yeah it shows real it shows fucking confidence yeah i'm about to shoot a log of shit through my jeans dude i don't know what it is maybe it's these early tapings but i they really got my bowel movements going all right dude what time are

we at right now 1 30 maybe we start doing some patreon questions yeah um let's do it let's do some patreon questions quick and i'm gonna hold in this this shit. I'm going to see if I got it. All right, let's go. Time will tell with the Drake thing. Let us know in the comments or tweet at us or whatever like that. Let us know what y'all think about this because we might be off. We might be old. We might not know.

Not might be old. No, we old. Well, Mark ain't old. Yeah. But like we might. Yeah, but Mark ain't cool. Are you being Frank with me right now have you ever heard a cool person say i'm being frank ever complete nah is when you say completely frank i was like yo how you be a little frank what got me is the pace that he said it at i was like oh he says this all the time

let me be frank like this is just the way he starts sentences all the time. Let me be clear. Like, this is just the way he starts sentences. All right, go hit us. I'm about to shit myself, Loki. Yeah, all right. Yo, what's up? This is Akash. That was a preview

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