Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Game Of Thrones: S08E05 - Westerbros

Episode Date: May 13, 2019

On this episode of the Westerbros podcast, Andrew Schulz is joined by Hani, Marco and Jack Leary to review Game Of Thrones, Season 8 Episode 5. INDULGE!!!...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up everybody welcome to another episode of Western Bros it is 11 o'clock tonight 11 o'clock Sunday we just finished watching Game of Thrones season 8 episode 5 the penultimate episode Andy's favorite that's right we're increasing the vocab. I'm going to have a take right now that I might regret. I might regret, but I'm positive we'll be disagreed with. But loved the episode. That's fine. Loved the episode.
Starting point is 00:00:39 And I'll tell you why. I know it will not be a popular take take but I love the episode because I have been so disappointed this season because I because everything was so predictable that I I was pleasantly surprised by unpredictable endings for characters even if they weren't the endings that were the most creative or the ones i wanted i was like thank god okay so jamie and cersei die buy some bricks fine i'm okay with i'm like and i understand we want to see aria jump in with someone's mask and that would have been a really cool ending if aria was the one hugging Cersei in that moment and keep me and my baby safe and all of a sudden you just saw a stab go right into or the neck would have been
Starting point is 00:01:31 said like that would have been cooler don't get me wrong but at least it was there's a little part of me that was like yeah that's right like Cersei didn't go down from anybody else you know what I mean like it was bricks that had to take Cersei out it was nobody's hands you know it was just an unpredictable ending, and I feel like this season so far has been so predictable. I was finally happy to see... I didn't predict the Hound double death.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I know some of you guys might have seen that. The Clegane takeout? Yeah, I think I saw that coming. Some people did. I had a feeling that he was going to die maybe saving someone else, but I had a feeling that he was going to die maybe saving someone else. But I like the idea that he wanted to murder his brother so much that he was willing to kill himself for it. Well, you said that you don't want to be like me.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Only revenge drives me. Right. So it didn't matter if he died. He just had to get his final revenge. And I think there's a cool moment in the episode where like all of a sudden aria gets in touch with her humanity again right her one singular focus was this list and she was this parallel universe of the hound in a weird way he is this strong disgusting person she's like this innocent you know adorable little thing and they
Starting point is 00:02:40 both have the same objective and then in that moment i guess she sees what she's becoming she's becoming but also she's like oh vengeance just leads to destruction like look at danny yeah danny is torn down this whole city and it's because she's drawn by this singular vengeance right and then there's a white horse why i don't know is does that have any kind of riding the white horse she's ride the white it's a coke metaphor that's why her nose is bleeding dude she looked like Salvador Dali
Starting point is 00:03:10 for the last 15 minutes of the episode that was basically like the 9-11 of like Westeros what just happened there and like 10 years from now she's gonna get
Starting point is 00:03:18 King's Landing cancer that's what she's gonna do she's gonna find out she has like King's Landing cancer so that horse doesn't love anyone and who does she suit Danny does she get a lawsuit not happening She's going to find out The king's landing cancer So that horse Doesn't belong to anyone
Starting point is 00:03:25 And who does she suit Danny Not happening That horse isn't Symbolic Like that That didn't belong To any horse
Starting point is 00:03:34 I was raking my brain For like When did she have A moment with a horse The hound's horse Or like I didn't know If that horse
Starting point is 00:03:38 Like belongs to anyone And she was like Okay I'll take it over From here I had no idea That's why I'm asking you guys No I think it signified Like white horse is pure And she was riding back to her purity.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Her purity. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's dumb. Okay, okay. Maybe it was dumb, but at least it was for me unpredictable for her character. And again, I'm sure you guys will have alternative viewpoints and want to trash so many of these things, but let me see if there's one other thing that was unpredictable that I really
Starting point is 00:04:03 liked. I knew Varys was going to gonna die but i loved the death i i i thought it was visually really cool how there they finally used darkness and dragons right right like you would use darkness and dragons show the actual dragon instead of like what just killed them? Yeah, exactly. And it was like it was a powerful scene and I liked how like I thought it was a cool acting choice
Starting point is 00:04:31 of Dany to just go Dracarys in motion. She was in full she was in full crazy mode. Full crazy. They did that close up
Starting point is 00:04:40 and her hair was like kind of awful. She was phenomenal. She was phenomenal. She was really good and but like that subtle Dracarys like nothing like your life means nothing it was over and uh i thought that was really cool and i liked varus's reaction like you could tell in that moment varus was like man i've lasted this long yeah this cool. There was also some foreshadowing.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Like the last season, Melisandre told him that he was going to die on that island. Oh, fuck. I forgot about that. Oh, shit. Okay. He couldn't do that at all. Yeah, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Did you notice this was the first time they showed Danny with no makeup? Well, they did it. I thought the last scene of last episode When Melisandre got killed She was Yeah she was like Walking back And I distinctly recall Her not having any
Starting point is 00:05:31 Makeup She looked different this time She looked a little They made her look crazy She had Like she was new To the crackhead game Like not full
Starting point is 00:05:38 That was You know 48 hours Like you know When you see one It's like oh you were Good looking You know
Starting point is 00:05:44 Leonardo DiCaprio Basketball diaries You know? Like a weekend. Like, you know, when you see one, it's like, oh, you were good looking. You know, we're not completely. Leonardo DiCaprio, basketball diaries. You just started doing crack. You're a week away from just it being completely shot to hell. So those were the unpredictable moments for me. And that's why you like it. And I appreciate it. And that's why.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And outside, that's just like storyline. Yeah. I thought this battle was way more pleasing. First of all, light in daylight. Thank you. Thank you. As soon as it cut to daylight, my eyes were burning. I was like, ah!
Starting point is 00:06:13 I was like, there's daylight! Everybody had to adjust their TV again. I was like, turn it down! Turn it down! My retinas! So it was like, it was a cool dynamic, right? Because you had two different battles happening at the same time time and one was greatly affected by the other, right? You had the hand-to-hand combat.
Starting point is 00:06:31 You don't know who's the good guy, who's the bad guy anymore because the good guys have gone bad and they're seeking vengeance, right? And then while they're fighting, you got bricks dropping. It was like the, remember that show, the Agro Crag? Yeah. Guts. Guts. Yeah. Remember?
Starting point is 00:06:50 Nickelodeon. Yeah. It's like you got a maze to go through and you got Crag. Yeah. You know what I mean? It was like the King's Landing Agro Crag. Right? So –
Starting point is 00:06:59 Wow. Agro Crag. It was a cool dynamic. Way more 9-11 than Agro Crag. Yeah. 9-11 meets Agro Crag. I would never say that. So I thought it was a cool dynamic. Way more 9-11 than Agro Crack. 9-11 meets Agro Crack. So I thought it was a sick, I just thought it was a really sick way of showing a battle.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And I love the episode, man. All right, you guys destroy it. Why do you feel that that's against popular? Well, because it's almost become like... They were texting like you guys were really upset. I feel like their opinion I'm going to let you guys go because I think you're going to hear why they hate it. I became a cynic of the last
Starting point is 00:07:32 driving me crazy on text messages. And I was always like the eternal optimist about the show, but I really felt like it was going in a direction that I did not agree with. You thought it jumped the shark. It jumped the shark. Specifically during the Battle the Winterfell,
Starting point is 00:07:47 Battle for Winterfell, Night King battle. But I had this moment right before. I was watching with my buddy Daniel who I watched the first episode with when it aired live for season one. And we both looked at each other and we were like,
Starting point is 00:07:57 yo, we just gotta like kind of just give in. Good. We can't control it. It's never gonna be what we think it's gonna be. The theories are whatever. Let's just give in. And once I did that, I actually enjoyed the fuck out control it. It's never going to be what we think it's going to be. The theories are whatever. Let's just give in.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And once I did that, I actually enjoyed the fuck out of it. Yeah. Looking back on it now, like the fact that basically going into the last episode, everybody is where they were at the beginning of the show. We don't know where Sansa is, but like character arc wise.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Okay. Everybody reverted back to their original selves. Give me example. So Jamie is with Cersei, right? Arya becomes human again. She's not going for revenge an example. So, Jaime is with Cersei, right? Arya becomes human again. She's not going for revenge. Jon is, we think,
Starting point is 00:08:31 being Jon, not actually giving into it. Jon has always been noble, even from the jump. And he's not giving into whatever his love instincts are for Daenerys, which I thought he was going to actually turn and start fighting for her. And I was like, please don't do this. Okay. Who else? Well, Dany is the Mad Queen, which is what everybody assumed from the beginning. Robert Baratheon was right. When he was like, please don't do this. Okay. Okay. Who else? Well, Dany is the Mad Queen, which is what everybody assumed from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Robert Baratheon was right. When he was like, kill Dany, he was right. The one thing that he was right about. What else? I mean, everybody's kind of like reverted back to... Tyrion's, I guess, the only one who's in a weird spot. Yes. Fucking loser.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I'm just saying. No, no, Tyrion's a fucking loser. I want to... I'm just talking to Jack. You're rude. You come out of your neck like that? No, Tyrion's a fucking loser. Poignant observations about the show.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I thought it was really good. Tyrion's a fucking loser. Trash is the guy? Tyrion's a fucking loser. Poor guy. So, okay. Yeah, great point. There's like a little restart right there.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah. The predictions by the past kings were right. And you know what? Maybe we should have listened to them. They ended up being king. History repeats itself, right? This is the same exact thing that happened last time. It's just you're replacing who was it in the original rebellion against Daenerys' dad, the Mad King.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Right, Aegon was it or Rhaegar? Rhaegar, Targaryen. But who was leading the rebellion? Tywin came in with Robert, right? With him, yep. And Ned. Correct. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:51 So it's basically the same thing. You're just replacing Tywin with who? Jon? With Jon. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thoughts?
Starting point is 00:10:00 Hany? I was like 50-50 on the episode. Okay. There was a lot of stuff I really liked. It was the anti-episode three. The complete opposite. Complete. The web.
Starting point is 00:10:11 So you hated. Complete opposite of that. So I could see why you really, really like it. Just off that. So I like how it went about it. I like that it was daylight. The battle. This battle scene was actually cool to watch.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yeah. All the camera tricks they were trying to do worked here. They did some wonders where they were following people on the ground. I was sick. The character stuff. actually cool to watch. Yeah. All the trick camera tricks they're trying to do worked here. They did some wonders where they were like following people on the ground. The character stuff, like the ending to some, like I thought the Clegane shit, I thought that shit was dope. It was hyped up. It lived up to expectations. The Cersei, Jaime going out like that, I thought was just dumb and trash. And the most fitting thing would have been at that moment.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I didn't think about it. and trash and the most fitting thing would have been at that moment i didn't think about at that moment if he just killed her for love like we're gonna die like rather than bricks fall on our head or get burnt by dragons kills her kills himself it kind of fulfills that fan how's she experience of you right but like we've all been waiting for jamie to kill her right out of anger but he kill her Right Out of anger But he kills her Just out of like We're giving up
Starting point is 00:11:08 We're gonna die together now I don't think they'd die Out of romance And that would've been cool Because it would've fulfilled Like the whole Your brother would've killed you Your brother should kill you
Starting point is 00:11:15 Like that theory But in a completely Different angle on it So just them hugging And bricks falling on their head Was really anticlimactic to me Do we know And this is what Alex just said Do we know that The bricks falling on their head was really anticlimactic to me. Do we know, and this is what Alex just said, do we know that the bricks fell on their head? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I mean, yeah. How are they going to survive? If they're in the next episode, I'm turning the TV off. Say again? If they're in the next episode, I'm turning the TV off. That's fair. That's fair. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Anything else? I fucking hated Jamie versus Baymar Jarrah. Yo, I kind of like- I fucking hated it so much I kind of like that at the end we last see of him he's laughing
Starting point is 00:11:48 saying I killed Jamie I thought that was pretty cool yeah I thought it was cool it was almost like a Joker moment it just shows how delusional he is it was like the last time we see he's led
Starting point is 00:11:54 well not delusional it shows how he led his life right like it was true to the character that would be a fine way for him to go out he didn't value life but I don't care about that character
Starting point is 00:12:03 I know I know but like he didn't value life. Just take him out on the boat. He should have went out on the fucking boat. That's a death he deserved to have, the quick bang bang. That's the thing. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Okay, fine. That's fine. Go on. I didn't like it. They certainly went in a direction that I don't think I would have gone in. But all week long, I was getting more and more agitated because different things about the show would come out. Something came out where John and the dog didn't have a send-off at the end because of the CGI limitations. And meanwhile, this guy just was dogfighting on a dragon for 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:12:41 He couldn't hug his fucking dog goodbye. His dog had one ear. You couldn't give the good boy a pat? Yeah. It just seems like it's been getting like incredibly lazy. All the good stuff,
Starting point is 00:12:51 a lot of the good stuff dating back from like season six was like happening off screen. Like even the Arya, Sansa, Littlefinger death. That whole thing took place off scene.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Jon telling... No, no, we saw Littlefinger die. We saw him die but their plan was just like a flip. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Like there was no real crafty way that they handled that. Right. Then there was also John telling his sisters they did that off screen. Big reveal. He tells his sisters who he really is. You don't really see what happens. Right. So I was annoyed leading up to it and then I enjoyed the first scene with varus and i you know he took the
Starting point is 00:13:27 rings off he knew what was about to happen great uh i liked that how everything leaked how denarius looked and kind of where her head her mental state was at and this guy can't say a fucking name right just don't even try you don't even. You've been watching this show 10 years. You add three vowels to every single name. And they've got enough vowels. Every name has seven vowels already, and you're adding a next one. It's throwing me off. I know.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I'm overcompensating for the vowels. So anyway. It's Daenerys. It's Daenerys. When we say it to you, what does it sound like? What did I say? Daenerys? Daenerys. You know what you said, When we say it to you, what does it sound like? What did I say, Daenerys? Daenerys.
Starting point is 00:14:05 You know what you said because you've been saying it for eight years. Don't act surprised. In my head, I hear Daenerys. What? Every time. Yeah, it's Daenerys. I know. But when I say it, are you like, this guy doesn't watch the show.
Starting point is 00:14:18 You say Dany. I go Dany. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? That's your deal. Yeah. Probably. Going forward, I think that's the one.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Okay, go. I go Danny. You go Danny, right? That's your deal. Yeah. Probably. Going forward, I think that's what I'm going to do. Okay, go. So the thing that really irked me, I guess, was from the beginning, which I couldn't take, was the fact that, first of all, they should have had a Drogon training montage before we got to the fight. Because that Drogon this week was not the Drogon last week. Yeah, does he ever run out of fire? Like, does he need a refuel? I thought about that too, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:45 He watched his brother take one arrow and was completely off his game and beat feet out of him. Yeah, yeah. And then he comes back this week and it was nonstop Drogon. Yeah. We needed that action with the White Walkers for sure. We needed that with the White Walkers. We could have used it last week.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah. Yeah. And I was just like, okay, so this thing is just going to decimate this whole army scene and I guess all it takes is really one dragon. How did the Targaryens ever lose? They don't. That's what I kept thinking. No, well,
Starting point is 00:15:13 they must have because they're not in power. Well, no, the dragons died. Mad King. They stopped making dragons. Last episode, she's flying straight towards him. Dragon dies. This episode, the dragons are flying diagonal. No, no, no, no. I'm saying like thousands of years ago
Starting point is 00:15:30 where they never had a scorpion. They never had the thing to shot him. No, what happened was the dragons ended up dying off. They stopped reproducing. They stopped reproducing. That's why. They're asexual beings, so it's kind of hard to figure out.
Starting point is 00:15:40 In order to get to the place where they were conquerors, they took over. Yeah, they did it pretty easily. Right, right. Gotcha, okay, yeah. Yeah, I think when they actually took over, they had they did it pretty easily. Right, right. Gotcha. Okay, yeah. Yeah, I think when they actually took over, they had like a very small army. That was like the thing.
Starting point is 00:15:50 It was mainly dragons. Yes. But they had three. But they had three, yeah. Right, right. Apparently, you didn't really need three. That was a takeaway. You just needed one going off.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Yeah. Then there was this whole other half an army of Dothraki. I don't know where they came from. Well, that was the other thing. I was like, all right, I thought they all died. There was like one guy left. There was a shit ton of them out there. Yeah. Right. Right. And where they came from. Well, that was the other thing. I was like, all right, I thought they all died. There was like one guy left. There's a shit ton of them out there. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Right. And now they got balls. Like last time they were running back. This is what they do. They go and sack cities. Yeah. They rape. They pillage.
Starting point is 00:16:13 This is what the Viking were. They're back in their element. Yeah. But before we saw them running back from the White Walkers that just destroyed all of them. There was like four of them. Exactly. So now those four have somehow multiplied into a whole small army. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah. Okay. Fair. So there's some issues, right? There's some numbers issues. So manpower issues there, right? A little bit of manpower issues, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:35 That'd be funny if there was – because I think – what's it called? Danny goes to John like, where's the Dothraki army? That'd be cool if he was like, oh, like those three guys? Yeah. They made it out? Yeah, they're there. Well, let them go home. Yeah, let them go home.
Starting point is 00:16:50 All four of them made it out. It's like saving private Ryan. Saving private Dothraki. No, we sent him back. We sent him back home to their mom. Saving private Droga. Yeah. So, yeah, I didn't love that.
Starting point is 00:17:03 And then, you know, the other part was when they went to go sack the city I get the Dorthraki went nuts And I liked how they did the little standoff With Grey Worm but then Like Most of those other guys with him were I was under the impression were northern troops with John And then the way that they kind of just broke rank from him
Starting point is 00:17:20 Like I didn't really see that When he was trying to stop them and they just kept like Yes Moving forward I think they were just so lost in the battle like, I didn't really see that coming. When he was trying to stop them and they just kept like moving forward. I think they were just so lost in the battle. Did he? Yeah. One of his guys tried to fucking stab him. Can we acknowledge that? That was the most hilarious
Starting point is 00:17:34 part of the whole episode. There's a dragon lighting the setting on fire. There's a full war going on and a dude still stopped like, I'll get some pussy. He was going to rape mid-war. Mid-war. Mid- yeah. Mid-war. That is insane. Mid-destruction.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Dude. I know. Crazy. The whole city's turning into rubble. And the guy sees one chick that hasn't showered in a month. Yo, but it's like when you come out of winter, like guys in New York that come out of winter, they see a sundress and they're just like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:01 They go down to King's Landing, the sun's out, and everybody's just like. That's how ugly the chicks are Up in Winterfell They got their first Southern pussy And they're like Oh shit That's a good point
Starting point is 00:18:11 Anyway Go on And so another thing was Is I just thought the Danny flipped the switch Kind of quick Okay No that's been building
Starting point is 00:18:20 Genocide is a pretty Pretty big leap I would say From killing a couple guys That you don't like Here and there That was That was building
Starting point is 00:18:26 Since the end of the last episode So that is quick In the scheme of Game of Thrones But like we knew that But what was her driving motivation To just be like I'm just gonna lay waste These fucking systems
Starting point is 00:18:34 So let's back up Over King's Landing And finally seeing I'll end my rant there Let's back up for Grav So let's go with Dany Let's start with Dany Let's start with Dany
Starting point is 00:18:40 That's a good person Okay so To be fair She didn't switch this episode she's been locked up not talking to anybody in the you know throne room of dragon stone clearly she's pissed off sure sure sure but she's pissed right and she was pissed at the end of last episode so however many weeks are before it happened to now, she's been not talking to anybody, stewing furious. If I watched someone chop Haney's head off, I probably would skip a few meals myself.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah. I don't think that that means I'm going to start a total obliteration of a population. Not a real friend. Right. Right, right, right. But you don't have Targaryen blood, right? That's true. You have Rossi blood.
Starting point is 00:19:25 That's right. Right. So you might't have Targaryen blood, right? That's true. You have Rossi blood. That's right. Right? So you might kick over some garbage cans or something like that. Oh, they take my guy. You're going to have to. Just hit it on your hand a few times. We're going to handle this for you, Amy. You know what I tell cars and drives by?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Spin that Quebec in. Fuck yourselves. But that is how she's going to end up handling it. And we also know that that's the prophecy, right? They keep on shoving this down her throat, which is like every Targaryen is a flip of a coin, right? It almost seems to me that like a situation can flip it. Because Dany, I think, was a good person. And then a situation turned.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It's in her DNA, right? Right. And then like we've seen questionable moments like when she killed Sam's dad and brother. And we're like, oh, shit, she has this a situation turned. It's in her DNA, right? Right. And then like we've seen questionable moments like when she killed Sam's dad and brother and we're like, oh shit,
Starting point is 00:20:08 she has this in her. She got in her, yeah. And that was what, a season and a half ago? Well, fuck them. They had a chance to not die and they chose to die. Right, but we saw that
Starting point is 00:20:15 she's willing to go the distance. I think what happened was she's on that dragon, she gets to King's Landing, she sees the Red Keep and she's like, this is mine. I'm taking it.
Starting point is 00:20:22 She's been waiting for so long. But she couldn't just drive to the Red Keep and take out the Red Keep? She had to do the zigzag all the way through the city? Yeah. She started mowing the fields. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:32 They set that up earlier, though. Right? They set that up earlier when- I think you're going to touch on it. So when she's like, all the people in that city are insubordinate. Correct. Because when I freed the people of Marine,
Starting point is 00:20:45 or the slaves of Marine, they revolt, right? And they when I freed the people of Meereen, you know, or the slaves of Meereen, they revolt, right? And they're like, the people in this city, when I free them, they're not revolting. They're not doing,
Starting point is 00:20:52 they're actually just chilling and protecting the queen. And Tyrion tries to go, look, they're desperate. They have no choice. They'll be killed by the queen if they don't revolt this, that, there. But that was her justification.
Starting point is 00:21:01 And I think in her mad state, she's like, it's us. Or them. Or them mad state she's like it's us or them or them and it looks like it's going to be us right is that what you're going to say yeah that and when john went to go see her in the room um and she's like you know talking about leading with fear or love she picked fear she picked fear right first of all if you just piped her might have been a whole different thing he could thing. He could have saved thousands of people. But he pulled away.
Starting point is 00:21:30 She was like, you know what? You can say that about any of them. If John would have just laid pipe, she would have been way different. That was her version of, what are you, gay? Yep. So, literallyilled a million people Because 5'8 John That she's been size shaming
Starting point is 00:21:48 For the last four episodes Wouldn't fuck her Yep Yo she should have started Laying in on his height In that moment That'd be really funny Right
Starting point is 00:21:57 She's like Why don't you go with Your midget friend Tyrion And make out She should have been like Take off the shoes. I know you're wearing platform shoes. Is that sword a little heavy for you, Jon?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Just walk down the hallway with him, roasting him, just following back of the soldiers. Speaking your real voice. Jon's always like, really low voice. Hey, my name's Jon. He just starts trashing him.
Starting point is 00:22:27 The other thing I love that it went against everything that they've done previously on the show. The last time we had like a high profile cameo, it was like, oh,
Starting point is 00:22:34 Ed Sheeran's gonna be on the show. It's like, I wonder where he's gonna be. And then, if you remember that episode, he literally turns to camera and starts singing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I never bothered me that scene. I hated it. I liked Aaron Rodgers tonight. So, A.A. Ron was in the episode tonight, Aaron Rodgers. And I was like, please don't let him be, like if that was the version of the Ed Sheeran cameo, it would have been like Aria dropped something
Starting point is 00:22:53 and he's like, hey, Aria. And he just throws like a crazy bomb. Like just a Hail Mary. That would have been amazing. I was like, please don't let it be something like that. And we didn't see him. Like I'm sure if we like- No, you'll see him.
Starting point is 00:23:04 They'll go online, you'll see him. Like that dude from Always Sunny Philadelphia. Yeah, yeah, let it be something like that. And we didn't see him. Like, I'm sure if we, like, go on. You'll see him. They'll go online. You'll see him. Like that dude from Always Sunny Philadelphia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I like that. Okay, what was he in this episode? We don't know. He was probably, like, someone that died.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Yeah, he was probably just a random guy walking. In battle, you know. But I like that. I like that he didn't, like, throw something. That would have been, yeah, that would have been awful. I personally think it should be in every one of the actors' contracts that they're not allowed to do any appearances or release any footage of them in costume, but not as part of the show. Like, I hate these videos that come out of them, like, dancing on set or hanging out on set.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I want to believe that that's real. Oh, I hate that. It fucks me up. Yeah, you break the third wall. Did you see the documentary that HBO's putting out in, like, two weeks? I'm fine with that because it's after, right? But I don't like anything happening during. There was a video that came out with Grey Worm and Missandei.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Oh, yeah, yeah. And they're like doing that little Beyonce dance. I was like, I don't want to see Grey Worm doing that. I don't want to see it. You're Grey Worm still. Right. You're not DJ Guy from England or wherever you're from. You're Grey Worm.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Cold-blooded killer. That's it. You've a great worm. Cold-blooded killer. That's it. You got no balls. None. It's just like, don't break the mystique, you know? Let me get lost in this. So I love that because I was watching it with my girl just now, and she asked me which scenes were green screen and CGI,
Starting point is 00:24:26 and it was like all of it. Yeah. And the fact that you have to ask that, it's like that's dope. No, they killed it. They did it well. They killed it. And I was watching – I was really nerding out this week on George R.R. Martin, and I was watching interviews with him. And first of all, he's a really interesting guy. He's funny.
Starting point is 00:24:42 He's self-deprecating. He's insecure. He's a real artistdeprecating he's like uh insecure he's like a real artist about it so where's the last two books say what was the last two books check it this is what made me respect him more than anything in the world um he's such a fucking artist he'd rather die than put out subpar work and he's gonna die and he's real talk no because he said he tried to do it he was like
Starting point is 00:25:07 when the show started when the he goes when the show started I was trying to race the show and I couldn't and there's a thing
Starting point is 00:25:15 with like him and Stephen King there's like a talk Stephen King the writer yeah and Stephen King asked him
Starting point is 00:25:22 at the end is there any question you'd like to ask me and he goes how the fuck do you write so much Stephen King's putting out like five a year and they're getting turned into a movie like the next year and he goes on this rant he's like i mean do you ever just like sit there like every word that comes out is a piece of shit and you're not interesting or smart and everything you do is bad and like i just related to it as an artist like right you know
Starting point is 00:25:41 i'm like oh shit it is cool to see the guy who's created maybe the most popular show in human history to be self conscious with his own work and it's cool to see that like when he was offered millions and millions of dollars on all this type of shit and they were like yo please finish the book so we do it he was like no I'd rather die
Starting point is 00:25:59 before I put out a subpar version of this of this story that he wanted to get right. And I was like, alright man, hats off dude. Hats off, but also finish the book. For us it's selfish, right? But as a creative, you're like, alright bro.
Starting point is 00:26:16 As a creative, hats off from the beginning. Like amazing. He created a whole fucking world and languages and shit like that. And yo, he had some dope answers. People would try to go social justice on him and they were like you know why is it that all the you know uh slaves are black in the show or something like that and he goes um he goes well you know the show is different in the books you have to understand that like the books slavery uh was based like the roman and greek times where like everybody was a slave it didn't matter your
Starting point is 00:26:40 color you could just anybody be a slave but um a lot of the show is filmed in Morocco. And when you put out a casting call in Morocco, the problem is Moroccans come. I thought that shit was so funny. And he goes, but if you watch the first season, the budgets were smaller and the Dothraki in the first season, they filmed everything in Ireland. So if you look at like the background Dothraki, not the main ones, the background Dothraki. The white guys? They look like Jack. Redheads?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Every single one looks like Jack. So he's like, and as we start to change where the locations and stuff, they change. But he was like, yeah, it's not a thing that we're really – we're not trying to position certain people. There's production restraints on a TV show that don't exist in a book where you're just making – Yeah, it doesn't exist in his mind. Right. Right. And that's funny because the Dothraki in my mind are colored.
Starting point is 00:27:42 They are. Yeah. And in the book, I think they are supposed to be kind of like Arabic. Yeah, they seem like Arabic. Something looking people. But the Unsullied also were like,
Starting point is 00:27:53 they could have been anything. Right. And he just handled a couple of these questions. Like he had a really funny thing where he was like, I guess I don't, any surprises?
Starting point is 00:28:02 He goes, I guess I don't understand women. Still doesn't understand them any better than when he started. But he was like uh i guess i guess i don't any surprises he goes uh i guess i don't understand women he still doesn't understand better than when he started but he goes he goes like literally i don't get i don't get it and they're like what are you talking about he's like i mean when i wrote the characters for like theon and like another one he's like they were supposed to be hated and i'm seeing these message boards and there are women lusting over these characters these are pieces of shit. So it was just cool to see him. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:28:28 So he called out women. Yeah. That's him calling out women, to be honest with you. He called them out. That's him calling out, like, by, like, playing himself, but he's basically saying, yeah, you guys are full of shit. Yeah. By the way, like, just a tip.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Maybe lose the conductor hat if you're trying to, like, get women. He's wearing, like, every appearance he makes, he has the same, like, conductor hat if you're trying to like i know he's so good yeah he's wearing like every appearance he makes he has the same like conductor hat on i'm just saying like if you're trying to understand women like just start there uh okay so the question is why didn't uh danny just go and kill cersei immediately yeah and uh what are your guys' thoughts on it? That was one of the questions I've written down for Cersei. Marco, what do you think? Now that the way you explain it, I don't think it became a priority for her anymore because she knew she won.
Starting point is 00:29:16 So Cersei was never somebody who- She's like, I'm destroying everything. Right. You're part of everything. She has nothing left. So this whole city is going to crumble around her. She's going to die. She's going to not die.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I don't know. I've waylaced it to this land, and I've won. This is now all mine. Right. There's nothing she can do about it. Cersei is a part of this, and this is done. Correct. I won.
Starting point is 00:29:38 She's no longer important. She was just who was on the throne. It was nothing personal to her. It was her throne, and that's it. The king could have been good. She's the only person that didn't have a personal conflict with Cersei. Yes. Once the bells rang, that's where she snapped.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Yeah. So after that, there was no logic after that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that was when she made the decision, right? Yeah. She's been the most removed.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Everybody has shit with Cersei. You're right. She's been the most removed. Everybody has shit with Cersei. You're right. She's been the most removed other than the last move at the end of the last episode where Missandei gets killed. But, like, it's always been about the throne. It's never been about the person who's sitting on the throne. That's essentially what you just said. Mark.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Haney. You were going to say something right there. Are we to assume that, you know, Her and Cersei are like Having that stare down But like they're miles away From each other I didn't think that they were really Are we to assume that She knew Cersei was
Starting point is 00:30:32 In that tower over there Yeah Yeah So if we're to assume that Then she's just like I'm going to torture her And burn down Every inch of the city
Starting point is 00:30:40 If Cersei doesn't care about that Cersei doesn't care about them people I know but still But still like I'm Like not only am I going to beat you, I'm going to rub it in. We're flexed. Okay. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Yes. Yes. Also. I forgot the next one. Good. Also, were you guys surprised that, like, you knew she was going to go mad queen. Right. You thought she might kill a few people and then get stopped, maybe? Like, what was your expectation going in? You knew she was going to go Mad Queen. Right. You thought she might kill a few people and then get stopped maybe?
Starting point is 00:31:05 Like what was your expectation going in? You knew she was going to go Mad Queen. Do you think she was going to go that Mad Queen? Because that Mad Queen was kind of surprising to me. I figured like going Mad Queen is going all out. You don't go half Mad Queen. So you expected her to burn down the whole fucking city tonight? I mean if you asked me last week, I would have been like she's going to kill a bunch of random innocent people.
Starting point is 00:31:23 A bunch of randos. Not the whole fucking – not the whole Kings not the whole king that was a lot that was as it was happening like the last few fire deaths where they really like like showed you everybody that was i was like oh shit all right she's she's turned she's she's completely she's not going halfway yeah and and i wonder if there was some logic with it you know i wonder if and there's a moment where she says it she's like they don't love me. They fear me. And then she goes, let it be fear. And maybe she was hoping.
Starting point is 00:31:50 She was like, look, if John loves me, these people will love me. But if John doesn't love me, I've got no shot. So I have to live by fear, you know? And so there's nothing for her to lose, really. I mean, you might as well just go all in at that point. But also, season four or season five, right after Tyrion joins up with her and they're having that conversation about how to plan their whole thing,
Starting point is 00:32:22 she says, I'm not trying to stop the wheel i'm trying to break it right she's breaking the fuck out of it yeah out of the wheel i mean yeah there's no more wheel left completely broke yeah yeah yeah it is uh on a separate note there's a if we can move on to tyrian i think that something we've tried to predict last week kind of did come to fruition in a cheaper less expensive way so the theory last week was they're going to go to the golden company and they get the golden company to flip and a version of that and it was tyrian's doing and a version that of that was essentially tyrian telling jamie hey go get cersei to just get on the boat and leave and ring the bells and this way we don't got to go to war. And I'm glad that that didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:33:09 But the idea, like I had no clue. He tried to broker some sort of peace. Right. Tyrion was going to get busy like intellectually. He was going to, like I'll risk my life because if you end up stopping us from going to war, then it's worth it and then the queen will save me. I don't know how Jamie slipped past The circle of Unsullied
Starting point is 00:33:27 That had him Tent guarded Tyrion sent him away No they left They left Remember Tyrion sent him away Tyrion sent him away
Starting point is 00:33:34 You see the All turn and walk away I thought he just said Nah he's like Yo dip And then I guess Davos who just has A fleet of little boats
Starting point is 00:33:42 This guy's Always got a boat Yeah But like There's never a time Where he doesn't have A little boats. This guy's always got a boat. But there's never a time where he doesn't have a little boat. Gendry's on a little boat. Where's this marina? Where was Gendry? Oh, is that the favor that he asked of Davos when he was like, I need a favor from you?
Starting point is 00:33:55 Yeah, I didn't make that connection. So, yeah, so that was one thing where I was like, okay, Tyrion's going to get busy. I really thought we were going to see Tyrion, like, really use his brain and kind of be victorious. And no. And unfortunately not. Maybe something will be cooked up in this last episode.
Starting point is 00:34:12 But it was kind of whack, to be honest with you. Like Tyrion's still just flopping all around, kind of useless. He stinks. He really stinks. I guess he – It sucks now. It sucks. And it's like I think George R.R. Martin's pissed because he-
Starting point is 00:34:25 That was his favorite character. Well, he used himself as Tyrion. He's Tyrion, yeah. Yeah, he does. And it was like, yeah, man, they're killing him. He's got to be furious. Yeah, it's not great. He's got to be furious.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I mean, you can't have Tyrion go out like this. He's got to be a savior in some way. You don't see him in the second half of the episode. Once she goes mad queen, you don't really see him again. Listen, it's not over. We don't know. He could end up on the throne. I think that he will end up on the throne.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Jon goes to the north and leaves Tyrion to rule. Did we have this conversation last week? I forget because I've had so many of these combos. But the idea that there was the combo between Varys and Tyrion, right? And the combo was maybe the person that's right for the throne is the one who doesn't want to be on it, right? Right. And Tyrion is taking that as Jon is the rightful king. But maybe Varys was like, it's actually you, dummy.
Starting point is 00:35:21 You don't want it. Yeah. But you would be the person who's rightful. Varys has always been his number one fan. Yeah, but Tyrion does kind of want it. No. I don't want it. Yeah. But you would be the person who's right for it. Varys has always been his number one fan. Yeah, but Tyrion does kind of want it. Nah. I don't know if he does. I wouldn't say he doesn't want it.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I don't know if he does. He's got it in the hand twice. Tyrion's certainly flying close to the sun. Yeah, but he realizes that there's security close to the sun. Like he's a dwarf at the end of the day. He can't just be like walking around King's Landing being a blacksmith, right? The only way he survives is if he's close to power and the reason why he can be close to power is because he's an asset to power
Starting point is 00:35:50 but he'll never be the one who yields I mean think about how people disrespect him and he's the hand well you know season two probably with the best seat one of the best seasons of the whole show um his whole arc that season is he's that he becomes the hand and he's really good at it right right just basically like when they plays the shit out of everyone and wins the battle at the end of the season so like we know he can do it and Varys after that point was like the one who was like you actually are good at this I'm gonna vouch for you going forward yeah so yeah I think that lines up with with look yeah but I'm kind of with Marco and I think that if they asked him to be the king he wouldn't want to be like if they go to John we
Starting point is 00:36:28 want to be king I don't want to do we can do this whole fucking thing but if they go to Tyrion to rip off that hand thing and be like yeah right now I think you don't think so I don't think so he just become I think he take it what do you hate I don't think so I think it would be hesitant but they'd have to convince him a little bit. I'm not certain. I will say this, if we're talking about Varys, there is something... Varys had
Starting point is 00:36:51 the moment with the little girl, right? Where he's like, the biggest rewards come from the biggest risks. And he was writing on a parchment. We don't know who he sent. So he was writing two. Multiple, yeah. Multiple. And one... They were... Yeah, this is CeCe in back of the day. So one was writing two. Yeah, multiple, yeah. Multiple. And one- CCing people. They were, yeah, this is CCing back in the day. So one was definitely about Mother Dragons, right?
Starting point is 00:37:13 Because if you read the lines, it was describing that little spiel that she gives before she kills you. And- One mentioned Ned Stark on it, and so then I'm assuming- One was saying John's lineage, yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. So where one was saying John's lineage. Yeah. Right. So where is that going?
Starting point is 00:37:29 I have no idea. Maybe Bran's doing something. I don't know. What the fuck happened to Bran? Well, I thought that was going to Cersei. Nah. Yeah. Who else would he need to notify?
Starting point is 00:37:43 But that's the rest of the It says dead money though It's useless It's useless Cersei's useless Because she's out of the game There's no one in her own The rest of the kingdoms That Cersei's not there
Starting point is 00:37:50 She's dead She's dead So the So where is that going? That's what we're talking about Where can it go? It could go to Rob and Aaron Who's like still
Starting point is 00:37:59 The Vale To the Vale Who's still alive Prince was promised Prince was promised For sure For sure. For sure.
Starting point is 00:38:10 It could go, like, somewhere random in Essos, right? And, like, get some Eastern. Dorne. Iron Bank. Well, we know that Dorne is still flowing. Dorne's still involved. Exactly. It's going to all those places. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:20 That's not King's Landing. Yeah. Okay, so there's multiple. But there's specifically something risky that this girl had to do. And is that girl in King's Landing at the end? Remember there was a girl that was trembling by a wall? Well, yeah, that was the girl. She was like the kid surrogate that we were following through the whole battle with.
Starting point is 00:38:36 And at the very end, she gets hurt. But was that the same girl? Different girl. That was a different girl? We get introduced to that girl at the beginning of the King's Landing battle. Okay, fair enough I thought they were the same girl okay
Starting point is 00:38:46 alright so we don't know where that little parchment is going but it's it's potentially going somewhere look at you with your notes man yeah cause I want to break down per character
Starting point is 00:38:56 and like all the questions that I had okay here's my issue let's talk about Cersei if we can so I was disappointed in Cersei
Starting point is 00:39:04 because throughout these last like seven and a seasons, she's thought everything through. Literally everything through to a T. And I believe so much in Cersei that as King's Landing is being torn to shreds and the dragon is flying right at Cersei, at any moment I'm like, oh, right into her trap. I'm assuming that she's letting her in. I thought that maybe there was a... One more scorpion. Right there. And it's right there and it shoots it right into her chest and then right through, or right through the neck,
Starting point is 00:39:32 right through Daenerys' face. Right? And it was like, oh shit. She sacrificed everybody in the realm so she could maintain, to get the dragon close enough to her so she could peace her out. And then I was like, sorry, what? I thought Qyburn was going to step in with like the dragon close enough to her so she could piece her out. And then I was like, sorry, what?
Starting point is 00:39:46 I thought Qyburn was going to step in with like the last minute move to take it out. Something like that. But basically you looked at a situation where Cersei never had ego. Her value throughout this whole show was she was egoless, right? Shame, shame. She was like, fuck it. I'll go walk through. Am I free after yeah
Starting point is 00:40:06 because i'm a body everyone so you can look at my pussy like who hasn't seen my pussy i fuck my brother like i have no shame right so this she'd never had an issue she fucked bam margera right because she knew that fucking bam margera was going to get loyalty of that fleet and it was going to push her closer to her goal she She would do whatever it takes to win. Whatever it takes. Zero ego. And this moment, she's sitting there like, well, no one ever gets in the red keep. Oh, this is the save.
Starting point is 00:40:32 It's like you have ego. There was no backup plan. No, but nothing. Yeah. What happened? I couldn't believe it. It was so absurd to me. It was just a denial.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Also, we've been so removed from her. She's probably had a total of 10 lines before this episode this season. Right. We haven't seen any of her planning. So, yeah, it was like if we're going with the off-screen thing, we assumed off-screen that she had some kind of master plan. There was obviously preparation being made. Obviously, she was disappointed with the lack of elephants,
Starting point is 00:40:58 so she probably had a plan for them in place that she couldn't execute. So you had the elephants. Then you had all those ships built, all the new Scorpions that were clearly upgraded from the previous model, right? So they were actually putting people to work. You saw little bits of the wildfire out there going off, right? So you knew there was some wildfire in the tuck.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Yeah, that was leftover wildfire. Leftover wildfire. She probably didn't even know that that was there. No, no, she didn't. I think it was supposed to be like that was what was left from when she blew up the Citadel. So, but to your point, she needed to like break glass in case of an emergency plan that she's always had. Always had. And she did not have it here at all.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Other than the fact that she thought the Golden Company and her own army was going to like defend it. thought the golden company and her own army was going to like defend it i'll say i'll say something the way that they took out the golden company soft wait a minute wait no i liked it wait it was sick even though we built up the golden company to be something so you'd like to see it actually do something if you're not going to see them do something it was the coolest way to get them that's all totally agree right it was like, we don't have time for a battle. The Golden Company build them up with this, that, the other. How do we get them out? The fact that they're looking around and you hear the boom.
Starting point is 00:42:12 The wind just fucking... I'll give credit to that. Okay, so back to Cersei. What were you saying, Amy? She went all in on the ballistas. Is that what they're called? Scorpions. She went all in on them. As she should. That're called scorpions yeah she went all in on the she went all in on them as she should that was her plan okay i'm saying like that was it like that was her in case from her and she's like she was like there's no way she's getting past that let's say when they're all done she's like well just fire some more at them he's like yo they're gone
Starting point is 00:42:36 so let's say for example right let's say for example she has them all surrounding the thing right she knows that that dragon and dann Danny is coming for her wherever she is. Wouldn't you put a secret one right below where you are? No. She just saw it work, though. Huh? But that's what you do. You put a secret one right there,
Starting point is 00:42:59 and you let them walk into the trap like she's always done. You know what I thought for a second? That was when Bronn was going to step up and take out Danny or the dragon. Ah, that would have been sick. But you know what I found out? And this is my boy Daniel pointed it out and I looked it up. It's true. Bronn, the actor who plays Bronn and the chick who plays Cersei, Lena Headey.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Yep. They have contractually in their contracts. They can never share a scene together because they dated before the show. Really? And they broke up and they had a terrible breakup. And then I guess they started dating a little bit like right at the beginning of the show. And they hate each other so much that they can't share a scene together.
Starting point is 00:43:35 That's why in the beginning of the season. Qyburn's got to do it, not. They're in King's Landing. And like, we just see Qyburn talking for Cersei. We've never, they've never once shared a scene together.
Starting point is 00:43:45 That's why when they go to the summit meeting, he's like, all right, to Pod, he's like, we're going to go get a drink while the adults talk. Wow. My ex is over there. I'm going to go to the other room. Yeah. But I feel like it affected Bronn's arc
Starting point is 00:43:57 because Bronn should have been in this battle. Like, where was Bronn the whole time? Yeah. Yeah, he could have been used. He could have been used, yeah. Did you guys notice who else was missing? Well, a lot of people were missing from the identity Santa well yeah she's yeah she's a winner she's gonna come in but like yeah no she's not supposed to be there really she's the lady John you leave someone in
Starting point is 00:44:18 charge up there you need to say what about uh I thought brand maybe was gonna like warg again I'm waiting for Bran to actually use... To do something? Yeah, to do something. But to that point, even during the Battle of Blackwater, Cersei had the Nightshade drink. She was like, if they break through the walls,
Starting point is 00:44:34 me and the kid, we're going to drink this Nightshade and we're going to call it a day. She had a failsafe every time. She had a failsafe every single time. No matter what. This was just... I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Ego. Yeah. Where's this ego? Where'd it come from? Out of nowhere. And she had the perfect fucking alley man i i'm i'm waiting for that one scene she's flying right towards the red keep and i'm like it's oh okay danny got too cocky danny's about to get got and then nothing happened i was like what yeah this is crazy yeah yeah it was just a little odd it was a letdown man there's a little letdown thinking Yeah. It was just a little odd. Cersei's being a letdown, man.
Starting point is 00:45:06 It was a little letdown. Thinking about it now, like having a little bit of space from it, it's a fucking letdown. It was just the Cersei-Dani thing was a letdown. I'm okay with Cersei and Jaime dying in the- Me too. I'm so okay with Jaime not killing her. I did not want to see that happen. I'm cool with that.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Yeah. Yeah, I was totally cool with that. It's like they understood that a lot of people like Cersei and they didn not want to see that happen. I'm cool with that. Yeah. Yeah, I was totally cool with that. It's like they understood that a lot of people like Cersei and they didn't want to give her a tragic death. That's bullshit because that's what they've been doing to us the whole fucking time. We love tragic deaths. I don't think they'll...
Starting point is 00:45:35 It was bullshit. They gave her like a cop-out death. So you think it's like fan service in saving her from like a real death? Yeah. Or maybe they were just like, well, everyone thinks that Ari's going to kill her or Jamie's going to kill her. So fuck it.
Starting point is 00:45:50 We're bricks. Can I ask you? You're not going to see that one coming? Like, fuck that. Why are you so sold that she's dead? A ton of bricks. Yeah, but then it's- No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:46:00 You're drunk, sir? No, no, no. You're drunk right now, right? So the bricks come- Wait, wait, wait. You gotta be drunk. Wait. I've never heard Alex talk this much.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Nah. I'm sorry. Y'all are positive that when the building fell on that person, they died. The bricks were starting to come down and then it goes like gray. Yeah. I'm telling you, that's not a certain death. Yeah, it is. In Game of Thrones, that's not a certain death.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Yo, the old Game of Thrones, maybe. All right, look. Now when there's one episode left. We didn't see it. And this is what you expected to happen. Anything could happen. I guess we didn't see them dead. But I'll take a bet to say that that's the last we're going to see.
Starting point is 00:46:38 What would be the point of bringing them back? All right. We didn't really go into detail about the Clegane Bowl. Let's talk about it. Clegane Bowl. Let's talk about it. Clegane Bowl, 2019. I thought it was so cool, man. I thought it was so fucking cool. This felt to me like I'm a big Lord of the Rings fan.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Yeah. And at the end of Lord of the Rings when Sam and Frodo get to the end and they're fighting with Gollum and they just get so close. This felt like that epic battle know on the site in the background the flames are going like all that shit yeah it was cool it was it was a great set piece and it was the perfect setting for them to finally face off 100 and there was something romantic about them both dying in the fire yeah yeah right you know this is you know early in his life he's been scarred because his brother burned his face and now he gets to kill his brother by burning him. He also kills himself because he's driven by this, you know, vengeance.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And dude, even bringing back the eye poking out scene from Oberyn. Oh, what about Qyburn's out, dude? It was quick. It was like classic Game of Thrones. He's like, you cannot disobey. I like that was a quick death. That was enough. Yeah. No, it was, it was sick, man. But yeah, that was it was sick man but yeah that was amazing I like that was she'd like it was funny he had a bunch of funny lines in there just like
Starting point is 00:47:53 when he was like why won't you stabbing him yeah yeah that was where I thought Arya was gonna come back so yeah so I actually liked it Arya didn't right because it fulfilled what she said. He asks her, so are you going to let me die again? And then she goes, probably. And that's exactly what the fuck she did. That's true. She could have stayed with them.
Starting point is 00:48:17 She could have went back and got them and helped them or found some way. But she didn't. But she wasn't able to help. The guy was immune. But the send-off was the send-off, right? That's why I didn't think she was coming back. It was a clear left turn that Arya took at that moment. And it was like, okay, she had a moment of self-realization.
Starting point is 00:48:37 And so I knew that she wasn't going to try and come back and help me. She knew this was not my path. There's something else out there for me. And she knew that Clegane was going to go down swinging. And that's how he probably wanted it. Of course. Of course. He don't want help taking out his brother.
Starting point is 00:48:51 He wants to do it dolo. Yeah. So here's the question. Now that Arya is getting in touch with her humanity once again, is Gendry dick time back on the table? It's not off the table. So, yeah. So does Arya go back to – She doesn't come back to Gendry. Is she going to table? It's not off the table. So yeah, does Ari go back to-
Starting point is 00:49:06 She's going to come back to Gendry. She's going to hit him up with the you off text? That's going to be a meme for sure. Did you guys see the doink meme? Yeah. On Twitter, everybody was sending me that shit. They're like, yo, Schultz, they already did it. They already did it.
Starting point is 00:49:21 And there was another one I didn't even see. So there's this dance called the whoa. Do you guys know this dance? I don't know shit about it. Oh, Haney knows all of it. Haney knows all of it. H already did it. And there was another one I didn't even see. So there's this dance called the whoa. Do you guys know this dance? I don't know shit about it. Oh, Haney knows all of it. Haney knows the whoa? Haney got all the dance. He knows the whoa.
Starting point is 00:49:30 It goes like this. The dad. The dad knows the whoa. It's not even a dance. It's just like a movement. It's a movement, right? What's the movement? You know what dancing is?
Starting point is 00:49:36 Movement. Yeah. It's like a scene. It's like two seconds though. You know what the dab is, right? Of course Right so it's like Like that
Starting point is 00:49:46 A variation of the dab A bunch of 30 year old guys Describing it It's kind of like It's like It's like that Right Oh you like move into it
Starting point is 00:49:54 You like follow No I mean You just go like that Like you just twist your head It doesn't matter Don't embarrass yourself anymore You already did I'm done
Starting point is 00:50:00 Thank you The four of you are embarrassing So basically what happens is He goes When Tyrion jumps off the boat, right, he's just trying to go like, I'm falling. He hits a meme. Whoa, son.
Starting point is 00:50:13 So the joke was actually a double. The meme or the gif, whatever, was a double. It was a whoa into doink. I was like, they're going crazy. They're going crazy, bro. What if Tyrion planned it? What if Tyrion was like, Loki, a big hip hop fan? They're going crazy. Twitter is going crazy, bro. Peak internet, man. That's what it says. What if Taron planned it?
Starting point is 00:50:27 What if Taron was like, Loki, a big hip hop band? He's like, I'm going to hit the meanest wall before I hit this water and make zero splats. Oh, man. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Yo, I don't think he's probably ever had to do a stunt in his life, and that was like a big moment for him. Yeah, and now he just turned into a meme yeah that's what the internet will do to you for sure okay so let's do um let's do tyrian yeah let's i think did we let's touch on tyrian what do you what do you have i mean i said pretty much everything well tyrian and john are gonna be tasked with taking down the mad queen and dealing with so now then let's just do it let's do predictions right because that's where we're at right now
Starting point is 00:51:03 yeah we've talked about everybody who's gone now we. Let's do predictions, right? Because that's where we're at right now. Yeah. We've talked about everybody who's gone. Now we know who's left. Predictions for next week. Haney, go. Jon takes out Dany. Jon does it. Who's on the throne? Jon. How does he take out Dany?
Starting point is 00:51:16 Fuck. Or Tyrion, but Jon. If it's Tyrion, I'll be pissed because Tyrion hasn't earned it. Tyrion's made another critical mistake, though. That was the other thing about his arc. It's Jon. Jon's on the throne. Don't count out Sansa on the throne. That was the other thing about his arc. It's Jon. Jon's on the throne. Don't count out Sansa on the throne.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Talk to me, Jack. Your thoughts. Or Sansa. I don't know. She was always, from the very beginning, very drawn to King's Landing. She's learned after everything that she's been through that she's actually good. When she was at Winterfell before the battle, she was actually logically thinking about a lot of things you have to think about when you're ruling.
Starting point is 00:51:45 That even Jon didn't think about. I think Jon doesn't want to rule. He truly doesn't want to. And I feel like he might just go and become king of the north and leave someone. I think either way he's going to do that. She's the Angela Merkel of Westeros. Just a barren woman wanting to rule for ruling's sake. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:03 So whether it's Tyrion or Sansa or maybe Tyrion is Sansa's hand, Jon's going to leave someone. In the aftermath, he's going to take out Dany and then leave someone. Does Jon make it? Jon's going to – maybe he dies taking out Dany. Maybe. No? No.
Starting point is 00:52:20 No, Jon lives. My concern is what the show guys said is that they're going to, once it airs, they're going to log off of all social media and not check anything for two weeks. They're going to drop off the face of the- Which means they're worried about the blowback, which means it's predictable as fuck. Right, which means something happens.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Oh. Oh, you think that's what it is? I thought that means John dies. I just thought that they were like, we're done. Because they said they're going to Mexico and drink tequila or some shit like that. No, they literally said- I feel like they don't got Game of Thrones in Mexico son
Starting point is 00:52:46 We got New Yorkers in Latvia beating up Chris Das Porzingis We gonna find you in Mexico if you fuck up this finale B Trust me At least get off the continent You better go to Westeros That's gonna be the only place you safe Was it really a Knicks fan? Son three Russians
Starting point is 00:53:03 You made that joke Nah dead ass It was three Russians that were Knicks fans That weren't having that confirm that you made that joke? No, it was three Russians that were Knicks fans that weren't having that shit. So you get lumped up. That's it. That's what you get,
Starting point is 00:53:09 lumped up. Where were your Mavs fans protecting you? Nowhere. All right? We everywhere. Has anyone fallen quicker? This is totally,
Starting point is 00:53:17 now we're getting into sports talk. No, it's okay. You ever see a unicorn bleed? Have you guys seen the clip he's talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I'm just saying, like, no one's stock has fallen harder than Porzingis in the last six months. Lumped up. That punch hit his head, B. That means it was a tall guy. He's seven foot. Sure was ripped. Well, that's the other one. I think it was multiple dudes.
Starting point is 00:53:39 One guy. It was just two dudes on one of the other shoulders. Yup, yup. One guy. Why is he still mixing it up? Like, why doesn't he have, like, guys? Because, like. He was in Latvia, man. One on the other shoulder? Yup. Yup. One guy. Why is he still mixing it up? Why doesn't he have guys? Because like- He was in Latvia, man.
Starting point is 00:53:49 He wasn't like- You should have even more guys. You don't have guys in Latvia. Real talk, you should because you get kidnapped out there. Right. Absolutely. There's desperation. It's fucking taken, right?
Starting point is 00:53:59 He got tooken. He saw him like, bitch, the girl. Everybody's making a big deal. She was like in his way. She was like, that girl. He was fired off. Bitch, get out the fucking way. I just got snuck. At the end of the clip. Everybody's making a big deal. She was in his way. She was like, that girl. He was fired off. Bitch, get out the fucking way. I just got snuck.
Starting point is 00:54:08 At the end of the clip, she's still next to him. I think he knows the girl. Yeah, of course he knows her. Yo, they should do a- He had to do the fake hold me back thing. It just happened to be a girl who was part of a mini-sensory troll. He was going like this. He was pointing, like, do something.
Starting point is 00:54:19 He calls Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban is Liam Neeson. Comes back to get him. Revenge. Taken. That'd be cool if it ended up being Dolan. That'd be the only thing I would respect. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:54:28 If it was Dolan, just fucking rocked him in Latvia. Flew right back. Oh, my God. So then next week. I mean, finals predictions. Mark, what do you think? It feels like John has to fulfill the prophecy of the prince who was promised. So he's got to be... He's going to somehow take out Dany.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And I think that it will be a situation where he leaves North – or dies, but he makes it like some sort of like democracy and there's no more Iron Throne. That's no longer a thing. That's what I think the whole thing is going to be. That's breaking the wheel. Huh. Okay. So the wheel gets broken. You still get a prince up there. It's Jon. So it's a little predictable. And then Tyrion and Sansa come up with some sort of like democratic government.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Interesting. Because Tyrion yeah my theory is and I'm hoping that it's Tyrion just so it's not predictable. Right. I think Jon takes out Dany because he's got to, but now it doesn't even seem that hard. I would have rather he fucked Dany this episode so that killing her next episode would have been that much more devastating.
Starting point is 00:55:38 There is a Jon Grey Worm fight coming that I think was foreshadowed in this episode. Oh, now we talking because Grey Worm is all in I think was foreshadowed in this episode. Oh, now we talking because Grey Worm is all in. He's loyal as fuck. Because, yo, we gotta kill these dudes because my shorty got killed. He doesn't give a fuck at this point.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Yeah, okay, that's it. He's unhinged. He went into battle without the helmet on. He's lost all his discipline. He's unhinged and unsullied. Yeah. Poor fucking guy. Okay, so that's the battle this next one. He's gonnahinged and unsullied. Yeah. Poor fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Okay, so that's the battle, this next one. He's going to have to fight Grey Worm to get to him. It's Grey Worm versus Snow. I don't think Snow ends up killing Danny then. I think the Grey Worm-Snow battle, and I think you might have fucking Arya. Arya do it again. Arya do it would be really annoying. Or Tyrion.
Starting point is 00:56:21 No way Arya does both killings. It could be Tyrion, so then it's another Kingslayer. Can't be Tyrion. Why not? I'm sorry, can't be Arya do would be really annoying. Or Tyrion. No way Arya does both killings. It could be Tyrion incident. It's another Kingslayer. Can't be Tyrion. Why not? I'm sorry. Can't be Arya. Okay. So maybe it's Tyrion.
Starting point is 00:56:30 You have another Kingslayer situation. And if you have another Kingslayer, maybe in a weird way, it like shifts the perception of the Lannisters and they get to become good guys. Because after all, shit, life wasn't too good in King's Landing, but it's better being roasted than being roasted by these dragons, right? That's what life was under the Targaryen rule. The Lannisters came in and they really switched shit up and made life okay. Like, Westeros really wasn't that bad, comparatively speaking.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Well, that's history repeating itself, right? That's what the Lannisters did the last time this happened. So they were heroes. So maybe, what is it they say? Like, you either die a hero or live long enough to become repeating itself, right? That's what the Lannisters did the last time this happened. So they were heroes. So maybe, what is it they say? Like, you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain, right? Well, now we're getting into Dark Knight, but yeah. Right? But on some real shit, maybe that's what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:57:17 And maybe we look back at history and we go, oh, shit, this whole time when we thought the Lannisters were these douchebags, they actually kind of saved everybody from Targaryen tyranny. Twice. Twice. Potentially. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So like, okay, maybe we should look back at Tywin a little differently.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Maybe we look back at Cersei a little differently. Maybe Cersei is protecting the realm because she knows how fucked up things could get if these dragon people get on it. Maybe sometimes capitalists don't want the whole society to go down. Slow clap. All I'm saying is I would like to see Tyrion on that throne or at the very least Tyrion take out Dany.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I just don't want to see Jon on the throne or Jon kill Dany. And if they wanted Jon to kill Dany, they should have had Jon have sex with Dany this episode and be completely loyal so that they could tear it apart the next one. But I feel like there's such a rift between the two. It wouldn't be shocking for her. It wouldn't be gut-wrenching for him to kill her. I want a gut-wrenching death. I want a death where you're like the person that loves her the most, like Jorah.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Oh, yeah. Right? Didn't I actually text that? Like Tyrion is like the last guy to be loyal to her even though I was wrong because Greyjoy's
Starting point is 00:58:34 fucking Ryder, right? Yeah. Tyrion could very well kill her and that'll make sense in the show. And it'll make up for his trash performance so far.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Are we ruling out the final theory of Bran working into a dragon and killing Daenerys that way? Oh, whoa. That's where Bran comes back. You can't kill her, though. She's unburnt. She can't be looked by the dragon. You're right.
Starting point is 00:58:59 You are right. But she's not unbitten. Yo, I don't want to see Bran again. Oh, really? Yeah, just like, whatever, man. Go right off. I don't want to see Bran. He's got to be doing something.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Yo, I want to see, like, at this point, I don't want to see Bran warging to anything. I could see him. He should have did it two episodes ago. Like, let it fucking go. I feel like he could warg into the dragon to save Jon or something like that. Sure. Right. That could happen.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Why didn't he warg into Cersei and ring that bell? Or why didn't he warg into the dragon to save Jon or something like that. Sure. Right? That could happen. Why didn't he warg into Cersei and ring that bell? Or why didn't he warg into the dragon to stop it from destroying all the... Why wouldn't he have done this a long time ago? That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't want to see Bran. Bran's a little stunned. Bran's probably out of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, fuck. I don't want to see Bran.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Let's see, Jon and Grey Worm go man-to-man. He's got to go post-up in a tree somewhere now, right? Isn't that what you do when the Three-Eyed Raven has nothing else to do? When you go back, he's just a tree. You become the tree. No, it was like the original three-eyed. He's like stuck in the tree, that guy. Okay, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:59:53 I just don't want a predictable ending. That is my goal. I'm going with Tyrion on the throne. Tyrion's a nice twist. Tyrion on the throne. I don't like it. It's going to be a combo of the two. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Yeah. No matter what, combo the two. Because they foreshadowed it in the slightest way when they were in the throne. I don't like it. It's going to be a combo of the two. Yes. Yeah. No matter what combo the two. And because they foreshadowed it in the slightest way when they were in the crypt. Yep. And they were talking about like, you know, we could have been a good couple, but I would have never worked this, that, the other. Maybe they work something out where they're like, look, this marriage shit, it ain't about fucking.
Starting point is 01:00:18 We got whores for that. It's about ruling. We would rule best together. You want to just do it as homies. As corny as that sounds, I find that maybe they could. A marriage of convenience. A marriage of,
Starting point is 01:00:28 like there aren't. Right. Right. You know, he could get back to his whore shit. Sansa is a pimp now, so she got the hook up on a horse. Tyrion's been celibate since Shae.
Starting point is 01:00:38 You're right. He still hasn't, Correct. Fucked in like four seasons. He's in a little bit of a cold spell. That's why he's losing his powers. That's why he's, He needs whores.
Starting point is 01:00:45 He needs whores. He's going to lose that of a cold spell. That's why he's losing his powers. That's why he needs whores. Well, he needs whores. He's going to lose that. He's lost now that optimism that he had before, right? That whores give you. Well, yes. Whore optimism. Well, it's kind of like
Starting point is 01:00:54 the whore nepotism though, right? Not nepotism. Whore nepotism. Pessimism. Whore pessimism. Yes. That's normal, I think. Tell us about your whore pessimism.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck whore nepotism is. Because you kind of hate yourself afterwards, right? So there's that kind of self-loathing. And it makes you want to do good. So maybe he's liking himself too much these last few seasons. Letting that hair grow. We know that that was the problem.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yeah. He needs that whore pessimism. He needs it back. That whore pee. He needs that emptiness inside. He was too full. He was too full. And he's easy to fill. He's tiny. He's a little guy. He's a little guy. You got emptiness inside. He was too full. He was too full. And he's easy to fill.
Starting point is 01:01:26 He's tiny. He's a little guy. He's a little guy. You know what I mean? Him just floating like a bobber until he hit the sand. I wish they showed that part after he jumped up. Do midges need to swim? I feel like they could float.
Starting point is 01:01:41 What are you asking? Can they? Can they swim? No, but do they need to? I feel like they could float, right are you asking? Can they? Can they swim? No, but do they need to? I feel like they could float, right? They're like little boogie boards. No? Yo.
Starting point is 01:01:52 For some reason, I 100% understand what he's saying. If you throw it in the water, you really think they're going to the bottom? No. They go like this. They go like this. They go boop, and then pop up like that. But aren't most people buoyant enough to do that? Damn, people drowned all the time.
Starting point is 01:02:11 I'm drowning. That's with current. There's a lot of- No, in a pool. Even babies drown, but I don't think midgets drowned. Yeah, I don't think so either. I think it's too much stomach area. I think there's something about-
Starting point is 01:02:24 Yeah, but what about the heavy- Thighs, the thighs. No, there's nothing. It area. I think there's something about it. Yeah, but what about the heavy? The thighs. The thighs. No, there's nothing. It's just all nugget. What about the heavy head, though? Don't rule out the heavy head. What?
Starting point is 01:02:31 The big head. The heavy head. That's a good point. The head is going. You know what they might do? They might go head first and legs in the air. That's how they might float. They might drown.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Legs in the sky. No, but it's like then they just turn over like a canoe you know how you know how like you know how those canoes always end up on the top there isn't a red set up that's what a midget is but upside down special image in your head? I feel so sorry. I feel the opposite. That's what it is. Dude, it's just like when you put lollipops in the freezer to freeze. The stick to take it out. That's what midges look like
Starting point is 01:03:13 when you throw them in the ocean. They just do permanent handstands. It's a permanent handstand. And you're like, are you digging for clams? Like, you go
Starting point is 01:03:20 and you tap them on the feet. You're like, hey, were you digging for clams? And then you turn it over and it's just some dead midget. Like, oh, shit. He's been dead this whole fucking time. This is crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:29 No one checked on Tyrion. They're like, don't, don't. He's doing the egg stand. He's been. Went for the record. Well, we don't know how he's been found the last seven times he's blacked out. Like, every time there's a big set piece, usually the cop out is Tyrion blacks out and then wakes up. And wakes up.
Starting point is 01:03:42 So maybe every time he just ends up like feet up in the water. Feet up in the water. You wouldn't yet. Dude feet up in the water. Feet up in the water. You wouldn't yet. Dude, that's the thing. Feet up in the water. And he can be underneath that water for as long as he wants. Did you know that? Did you know that, Marco?
Starting point is 01:04:00 He learned that from Gilly. Yeah. Gilly taught him. Gilly taught him. Gilly taught him. She taught him everything he knows, bro. Oh, my God. What? This went off the rails pretty quickly.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Dude, we're getting to the bottom of this, bro. There's a reason. There's a reason for all things. All right. I think that's it. I mean, those are my predictions. Anything else before we get out of here, guys? I had a question.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Go, go, go. When the dragon was flying over King's Landing, it showed the shadow first before the dragon came in. Was that the same image that we've seen in the past? Oh. So, so, yeah. Like when the dragon's flying over King's Landing. Oh, who had that vision?
Starting point is 01:04:38 You see the shadow. Who had that vision? Bran had the vision, right? Oh, yeah. I thought it was Cersei. Someone had a vision, right? But I remember in the trailer, it was like a huge thing. Like, yo, there's a dragon flying over King's Landing.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Was that the same? It was Dany's dream in the hut when the witch. Yeah, you're right. Was that the same image? Probably. It's similar. Probably. You know, look, they shot it four seasons ago, so they probably.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Right. I think they just borrowed footage from the Chernobyl dock that they have coming out. And that's what they did. Did you guys watch Chernobyl, by the way? No. I got Chernobyl right there. My only question. Why is everybody British in Chernobyl?
Starting point is 01:05:13 But you wanted them to have Russian accents? They're in Chernobyl. It's all British actors. Chernobyl is an actual place. It's a good point. I don't like an event. No, Chernobyl, it was in Chernobyl. Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Hence the name. But it's in Ukraine. Why do none like an event no Chernobyl it was in Chernobyl gotcha hence the name but it's in Ukraine why do none of the actors have a Ukrainian accent they're all British I haven't watched it yet wait it's out already? the first episode came out
Starting point is 01:05:34 I watched it I could barely get through it because I was like are we in England or are we in Ukraine? I don't like that either I think that they have to do an English accent
Starting point is 01:05:42 or American accent no Ukrainian accent but speak English yeah I can do with the like okay don't give me subtitles they speak english but throw in a fucking ukrainian accent yeah i don't like this english accent one bit yeah it's they have like cockney accents and they're talking about the chernobyl disaster i just figured it out guys what i don't think a midget can do a handstand at all I don't know
Starting point is 01:06:08 I don't think so either If the arms go up high enough It's more of a headstand And then The hands end up being like Like the supportive wheels on a kid bike You know like The training wheels
Starting point is 01:06:19 Yeah training wheels Like if you're turning this You know what I mean Like I think So I think that's it. Guys, this has been another episode of Western Bros. Thank you so much for tuning in.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Tell your people, tell the world. We got one more episode of Game of Thrones. We will be with you next week immediately afterwards. And let's pray for good things, man. Let's pray for good things. Peace.

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