Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Game Of Thrones: S08E06 - Westerbros (feat. Blogxilla & Weezy)

Episode Date: May 20, 2019

On this episode the WesterBros are joined by Blogxilla and Weezy to review Game Of Thrones, Season 8 Episode 6. INDULGE!!!

What's up everybody? Welcome to another episode of Wester Bros What do I mean? Everybody's laughing at me Everybody's laughing at me because I'm very hungover I'm severely hungover For once, I'm not the most hungover Yeah, and you know what? You don't really come across as hungover

I just want to say usually He's Irish Yeah But I'm Scottish Yeah I don't think you'd want to say, usually. He's Irish. Yeah. But I'm Scottish. I don't think you'd want to admit that the way you came in here. Damn, yo, Marco's been bullying me, bro. He's sensed weakness,

you know what I mean? Like a wounded gazelle. And he pounced, bro. This guy's been pouncing. The first thing I said, I was like, bro, I feel so vulnerable. He's like, you look it. I want to throw up. He goes, what did you say? I was like, man, I feel like shit.

He goes, there's no way you could feel worse than your face looks. We're on floor 12. We didn't even get to 22 in an elevator yet. This guy's a real jerk. This guy's a real fucking jerk. Anyway, we just watched the last episode of uh game of thrones first of all i just want to stop and say thank you to everybody who's been watching this with us it's been crazy to see the show really blow up man i think the first episode we did maybe like

30 000 people listening now i think we're at like 150 000 people or something like that pretty big pretty pretty impressive so thank you guys for spreading the word that's been awesome um so i think we should do what we did last week where we just kind of give some thoughts about the episode. And then we'll go through the characters. And we also got a special guest. We got like a real TV film expert, besides Jack, of course. A real TV film expert that's going to come break it down for us. Maybe I should keep that as a secret, even though we're probably going to put his name in the title.

I never understand why podcasts do that. Yeah, fuck. It's a secret. But it's on the title. Featuring. Well, we got Tom Cruise here today. So I'm really excited Tom Cruise is coming. You know what I mean?

Now, we got my man, Blogzilla. Zilla's in the building. A little round of applause for Zilla. Yeah. Okay. Came all the way up from his lovely home in Georgia with a pool. He made sure to let me know that. He had a pool in his home.

Would have been nice to have a pool on a day like today. I could drink a pool. Yeah. Right now. That is the only thing. I think the problem is you drank a pool last night. Maybe. Maybe.

Maybe. Good point. Maybe. Maybe. Good point. I'm here, by the way, with Haney, Marco, and Jack. We got Alex Media over there as well. And we got another special guest.

I don't know how long she's going to be here, but hopefully she hangs out for the episode. We got Wheezy. Wheezy in the building. Wheezy told me that she's been getting almost sexually harassed by Flagrant 2 fans. Not physical touch, but close. A thrusting motion at her. With permission granted. Yeah, they asked for consent, didn't they?

See? You know what I mean? Keep it consensual. That's our new slogan. All right, so let's get it going. I'll start it off. I really loved the episode. That's a hot take.

Let me tell you why. I really loved the episode, and I'll tell you why I really loved the episode and I'll tell you why Really loved? Loved Like got emotional a couple times And I'll tell you why I felt like there was such a short leash In terms of what they could do

Whose fault was that? But again we're judging the episode Not the whole series And the whole series build up Sure let's do that again, we're judging the episode, not the whole series and the whole series buildup. We should have a buildup. Sure, let's do that too. We're just judging the episode. For me, that's all I'm talking about is the episode. Not everything they could have done this season and added another season and all that.

Just what they did with what they had. They had an hour and 20 minutes to button this up. And in that hour and 20 minutes, Tyrion goes from being a bum all last two seasons to actually being a G, you know, using his mind to convince Jon to do some shit, right? You know, obviously to kill Dany. I love that flip. I liked – I mean, we'll go through character by character, but I thought there were some things I did not predict in the episode. I always like that. I wasn't a big fan of the dragon.

I don't understand what he understands and what he doesn't. He didn't understand that she was murdered, but he understood that the throne was this evil thing. Yeah. Oh, he was cool. He can't kill Jon, right? Because he's a Targaryen. Theoretically, there's a Targaryen angle. Ah, I didn't know they can't.

Well, I thought there was a battle of the Targaryens. And then symbolically, it's like what really killed her was her quest for power, was that throne. I understand the symbolism of it. Right. I'm saying, like, the dragon taking issue with the throne. Like, you could have lit that on fire whenever. Well, we can't ask him.

He was just pouring one out for Daenerys. That's it. That was his version of pouring one out. Yeah. Like, if nobody can have, if I can have it, nobody can have it? Like, he's like, I'm so angry, I have to put this rage somewhere. It was his rage. I'm going to put it on that throne.

Yeah. I don't think so. It was a cool image that they wanted to use. I think it was just convenient that the throne was in the way of the fire. No. No, I think it was intentional. He specifically went for the throne because he was about to light up John. And then he turns his head a little bit to the right, melts the throne, does not stop

blowing fire until the throne is melted. And that's the beginning of breaking the circle. The cycle, what is it? The circle. The wheel. The wheel, whatever. Whew. Boy, I'm over.

Boy, I'm over out here. So I think that's the beginning of breaking the wheel, right? And then we see the wheel continue to be broken throughout other points in the episode. And again, I want to go through each character and see what their journey was. But the way they buttoned it up, even with John in the end, where John ends up, we think that he's going to be at Castle Black. But he really ends up being the king of the wildlings or whatever the fuck that is. You think.

The free men. Right? You missed the metaphor with this fucking dragon in the seat. I didn't miss it. I picked up on it. I'm calling it the seat, bro. Guys, it is going to be

a stretch today. It is a seat. That's all it ended up being was a seat. It's just a fucking seat. And I love how they pick someone who already had a seat, you know?

What? I don't know how you get that. I missed the punchline. Bran. Okay. Like he's already had his throne. It's easier. Listen, budgetary restrictions.

We couldn't pick someone that we'd have to remake the throne. We have someone who already has it. It's the mobile throne. He's the king no matter where he goes. So I loved it. I really loved it. The Bran thing, I think that those are the highest odds in Vegas. And someone must have leaked.

Of course. Like one of these girls got drunk or dudes got drunk at a party. They're like, yo, a brand got that shit, blah, blah, blah, and then it spread. So that was a little bit of a bummer. But had they hidden that better, I think it would have been really surprising and cool. It wasn't. It was not at all. Had they hidden it better?

No, I was not. I didn't even pay attention. I was off the grid. I was off the grid. What's that? You thought brand was going to be the- At that point, I thought it I didn't even pay attention I was off the grid You thought Bran was going to do What's that? You thought Bran was going to be the At that point I thought it could have been anybody I wasn't really

But you heard the rumors Oh yeah Like you existed in America the last six weeks Yeah, I did not really listen to the rumors But there's been rumors about the line in Vegas There's been rumors about everyone That's it And you hear people make

He had the best odds Spoilers on stands Yeah, he had the best odds and he won it Okay I don't What I'm saying is if I didn't know that he had the best odds. It wouldn't have made it better. It would have made it better for me.

Okay. Because I would have never predicted Bran. That would be the last person that I predict would be Bran. But that's my thoughts. Well, Bran had to come in at some point, right? He's been taking the back seat this whole season. Sure. Possibly.

What did you think of the episode, Jack? All right. My whole thing is you said you got emotional. Two times. I was so emotionally removed at this point after this whole season. So I was really numb to kind of everything, which is weird because the show has always been like I've gotten emotional when I'm supposed to get emotional. Yeah, but someone told you Santa Claus doesn't exist like six weeks ago and you haven't been

the same. Exactly. Exactly. You haven't been the same. Exactly, exactly. You haven't been the same since. Oh yeah, you got PTSD. Same kind of letdown, yeah. Not even with the dog, his little Van Gogh dog. That was a nice moment,

but at this point I was just like, you know what? Let's be done with it. It's over. Okay. Yeah. Go ahead. I mean, it's basically,

we were worried that it was going to be the Disneyfication, which is what I called it, of the show. Right. And this is basically the Disney versionation, which is what I called it, of the show. Right. And this is basically the Disney version of what? No, because wouldn't John end up on the throne in the Disney one? All right.

Aside from that. I would say that. Everything else is like you pretty much tied it up with a bow. So Tyrion ends up being the hand for Bran. That's Disney. Everything goes back to basically the same structure except for the new democracy of voting for a king. The electoral college. Right.

Yeah, that's literally how the electoral college happened. They're like, why don't we let these idiots vote? They're like, what? Yeah. We'll decide. You know, like when Danny died, I literally was just – I couldn't care less. Yeah, it was meaningless to me. Totally meaningless.

Yeah. Not surprised. So here's a question for you on less. Yeah, it was meaningless to me. Totally meaningless. Yeah. Not surprised. So here's a question for you, Onep. Yeah. So how do we create meaning from Manny after – meaning from Danny after she's been – For Manny? Yeah, Manny. Bro, I'm drunk.

Listen, after she's been such a villain, right? You can't. It's like you can't, right? So it's like would there be any way to get us to feel sad for her in any way? I think the beauty of Game of Thrones was that we felt strongly about people that we weren't supposed to. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah.

And so that's what I always loved about the show. And I felt nothing for Dany when she died. So to me, that's the failure of the show. But maybe it's because she had no human connection. failure of the of the show but maybe it's because she had no human connection like i think it was the human connection that made us feel uh you know for or forgive jamie for his transgressions sure but we saw that side to jamie like all right that scene between uh tyrian and john uh where john's still standing up for daenerys yeah if this were pulled off the right way in a 10 episode season maybe or there was more time to develop danny's turn that would have happened like that would happen way earlier but also we

would have been more on john's side than just like what the fuck is he talking about right right you know what they should have had john and danny be intimate the whole time i think having john break off emotionally really isolates danny and you're like, okay, I'm cool with this bitch dies. But if he actually really loves her and they're in love and making out, there's one last person that she has a connection with on that planet and he killed. Let's put it this way. The last time John was in love was with a supposed enemy, right? Yeah.

At the time she was a wildling. But when we had scenes with her and when she died, it was really emotional. Yeah. Because we were given the time to be with them and be with her and see both sides to it. Danny is arguably the protagonist or the antagonist of this show and I felt nothing for her.

They could have done that because I guess one of my biggest beef with the show is now, after seeing it unfold, is that what did John's lineage actually mean ultimately nothing it meant nothing it saved his life it saved his life the whole little council meeting no one thought like hey he actually is of the right right but no one brought that up yo he's just even if it didn't matter at that moment so that whole storyline number one question why wouldn't someone just be like by the way gray worm that prisoner that you have

he's a true he has no one ever brought it up claim to the Why wouldn't someone just be like, by the way, Grey Worm, that prisoner that you have, he's a true claim to the throne. Didn't come up once. Like, why didn't that come up? Was it because they knew Jon said, I don't want it, and he's going to be able to pull his little bitch Jon shit? I just think it was, well, how were they going to bring it up? They determined that they were going to do this. Half the people there knew. But what I know, half the people there knew, but no one else knew.

But what you guys are forgetting is the Unsullied wouldn't let him do it because they killed his brother. Right. you have to people there know but no one else knew right but still but they can but they can be like he's actually your king he actually had more of a claim to throne then I'm not saying you should have gotten the throne do you think you're saying that they're just so they were so irrational great what it was a conversation piece could have brought it up We could have brought it up. We could have tabled it for discussion. Hold on one second. We're getting you a mic now. We're getting you a mic now.

You don't have to bring up what's obvious. But we got to make sure that the camera's good. Okay. Give me a second. Is that one on though? But what? We only have the wide.

Oh, yeah. So let me come behind you or something. Let's pause. Go right there. Okay. Go right there. You slide back again. You slide back.

Why don't you slide over? Yeah, you slide over a little bit more. A little bit more. Because then. We're only a wide shot. It's a whole thing. Yeah, yeah. But then there's more microphones.

It's a whole thing. And then you kind of. Yeah. Okay. So. how are we doing? And then maybe you pull in a little bit, Jack. What do you think? Listen, thank you, Zilla, for ruining the fucking beginning of this episode. I'm so sorry.

Couldn't wait 10 minutes. Couldn't wait 10 minutes to say the unsullied didn't want it to happen. Yeah, the unsullied didn't want it. Everybody was tuned out because we had to rearrange seats. But there's a big piece of information that they don't know. No, they know. They don't know that. They absolutely know.

Everyone knows. You got to understand. So at the end of season six, the showrunners for Game of Thrones said they don't want to do it anymore. They said, we're not doing this. They wanted 10 episodes. So they got the Star Wars trilogy. So they said, we'll give you ten episodes. So they got the start the Star Wars trilogy Yeah, so they said was give you two seasons and they shortened the season so I shoved 40 episodes into one So I understand that so it's all sped up. So yeah The show is rush is rush. So fuck them

The other sell we're gonna get into that for sure everyone knows so the unselly wouldn't allow because they killed in Daenerys So John could not be king at all So the Uncelli wouldn't allow that because they killed Daenerys. So Jon could not be king at all. So that's that. But you got to understand that the show gave you everything they wanted to give you. They gave you the Azor Ahai prophecy, which was Dany's vision. When she goes into the, what is it called?

The House of the Undead. When she goes to look for her dragons and she sees the Iron Throne burned down and she goes through that door and she goes back with Khal Drogo and her baby. That's her dying right so that's she was going to die there regardless that was a foreshadow thing right he sticks his heart into nissa nissa pulls out sticks the knife into nissa nissa's heart which is daenerys pulls it out light bringer comes out that was the prophecy that was always there uh so all the prophecies paid off right right right in theory, but not in execution or not in the emotional. I guess that's the other thing.

It's like, yes, they did everything they were supposed to, but there was a lot more juice left on that fruit. Yeah, there was. I can give you that. That's what it felt. It felt like someone was making orange juice by just squeezing a little bit and then throwing it away. Yes. It felt like. You know how white people eat chicken wings?

That's what this felt like. A lot of meat left on it. A lot of's what this felt like A lot of meat left on it So it was like How do we ramp up the emotion? I think we just sat here And figured out a cool way to ramp up the emotion Of Danny Danny and John

Of course it's cool that he kills her Because he's already shown her for the last three episodes He doesn't even love her He's just doing some shit that he agreed to. It's like killing your substitute teacher. You're like, okay, I'm going to behave. But what if they were in love? What if she was pregnant?

What if something happened that was – what if he had to kill his pregnant wife because that was the best thing for the realm? Like, whoa. But that didn't happen. I know. So you just got to accept what happened and what happened was great. I love the episode But see you also gotta understand that John was going on the same path that

Ned Stark went on He was super loyal Super faithful Super just I'm righteous I'm righteous He was like nah I'm gonna kill you bitch Boom

And he snuck her He broke all his morals To kill Daenerys So that was the thing I enjoyed seeing John Be like you know what I'm gonna give you a hug I'm gonna give you the kiss that I that you been trying to kiss me all season and I ain't give you shit and then boom knife to the heart you did oh you did he did make out he had a

arc I agree that's so he did break his morals that's John has never broken his morals until that moment and why is that breaking his morals though you're my queen you're my queen you killed're my queen. You killed children. And he's trying to justify it. He was justifying everything until that moment. He was like, you know what? Tyrion, you're right. I got to kill this bitch.

Yo, to back up a point where you said, but also how bad they did it at the execution thing, is like, Jon, essentially, that was his sacrifice. This is me. I'm going to kill you for the betterment of everyone. And by doing it, I'm no longer going to be able to get on the throne. Yeah. Right? But he never wanted it. But they never actually fucking said that shit but he never wanted it he never wanted to throw so he wasn't like to him he wasn't giving it up he was just doing what he felt was better for the entire realm tyrian convinced him that you know what is

right and she doesn't and then when i think in that that last scene when she says they don't get to choose that was when in his head it clicked. Like, okay, she is not the right person for this. I'm going to kill her. And I don't think he really cared what happened to him because that's always been his brand. Like, he's going to do the right thing regardless of what his consequences may be. And then him and Tyrion are like the silent champions. That's why when they brought out the book, that's like the record of what we just watched, this entire series. Tyrion's not mentioned once.

And it's like, oh, shit, he's actually like the master of what we just watched this entire series. Tyrion's not mentioned once and it's like, oh shit, he's actually like the master manipulator of this entire... So let's go on to that. What was the point of that? Yeah, it was bad.

The point of that... What was the point? Not whether it was good or not. The point of that was to show that you never know about the real people that pull the strings, right? I think that's what

it was supposed to say. When we hear the legend of the past Roberts Rebellion or whatever, we don't know who was really pulling shit. We hear about the legend of what's happening. We hear about the people who made the decisions, not the people who convinced them to. Or even just the people that are –

Like everybody goes, the president bombed this country. They don't go, his buddy Frank said it was in his best interest to bomb the country. Right. So, wow, that's interesting. So in that moment, he realizes what he has zero place in history. But the history is because of him. You know, it's like, yeah. But he foreshadowed that when he was he was a prisoner, he was talking to the seven councils. He was like, the realm needs a story. This is a story. Doesn't matter what happens.

This is a story who has the best story. Brand has the best story. Oh, I love that. So his story was but his story also got deleted. story brand has the best story oh i love that so his story was but his story also got deleted but if you also think about it he was a pawn like he was a pawn in sansa's plan remember it's tyrian oh okay i take coming remember remember earlier in the season when tyrian first got to winterfell yeah and she was like why and science said why do you think your sister was going to send armies that's your sister. You know her better than I do. And she goes, I used to think you was the smartest nigga in Westeros, but you're actually a fool.

And then when she was in the crypt and she was talking to him again, I could be up there thinking of something that might not be thought. And she goes, you will be dead. You will die. Oh, she should hunt him all. She was in on the whole episode. So then, to go back to last episode, when Tyrion walks in on Daenerys and he goes, you've been betrayed by Varys. She goes, no, it was Jon Snow.

And he goes, no. And she goes, Daenerys goes, who told you? And he goes, Sansa. Why did Sansa tell you? Why do you think she trusts you? And he goes, because she trusts me. He goes, why? She trusts you to spread lies? This was all Sansa's plan okay okay now if you go back to this episode Sansa goes to Jon she goes I'm sorry but this was the only way for it to happen so all of this was Sansa's plan you gotta understand who raised Sansa Littlefinger and Cersei raised Sansa yeah yeah yeah

so she's been schooled by Cersei so when you see her at the end of the end of this episode on on the throne in the north that's that's Cersei So when you see her At the end At the end of this episode On the throne In the north That's Cersei But she was more apologizing Because she agreed To send him to the north She was apologizing

Because she She broke She apologized Because she started This whole thing How did the Game of Thrones start? The Game of Thrones start When Littlefinger

Killed Lord Arryn And remember He had signs That he was schooling her And he told her the whole plan. You got to go back to that. So this is her plan. She set all of this in motion to get Bran on the throne.

Everybody who's in power is a Stark. Wait a minute. She sounded like she didn't want Bran on the throne. It sounded like she wanted the throne or she wanted a throne. She never wanted to go back. Remember she said, I'm never going back to King's Landing again. But she went back there because she had a throne. She never wanted to go back. Remember she said, I'm never going back to King's Landing again. But she was there.

But she went back there because she had to go. It seemed like she wanted the throne, and when they were like, you're not going to get it, she was like, all right, well then we're going to have our own thing. She just wanted the North. She always wanted the North.

When she told you to sit down, that was hilarious. That's how I fell in the elevator with Marco. Robin Aaron. By the way, come on Robin juiced up He really did He really did I know

Hair was all nice and clean I almost stood up and nominated Robin Aaron That Giants book made me My dude was living life In the veil, bro We're good, man We're getting ready Yo

The trainer I thought there was a chance. He's sucking on some real titties now. Oh, for real. Yeah, I thought Breanne was pregnant when she was writing in that book. I thought she was pregnant. I was a little bit. Father of my child.

Yeah. Wait, okay. So you think, this is a very spicy hot take right here. You think that this whole thing was designed, the whole story is designed by Sansa to free the North from the realm. Yes. Whoa. I mean, that was definitely her,

I thought that was definitely her agenda. Remember the conversation with Daenerys and Sansa? Yeah. She goes, we'll follow you if you give us the North. The North will never bend a knee again. Will never bend a knee again. When do you think that that idea took place for her? What season?

When she was in the council. In the scene. I think we're giving her too much credit. That's what I'm saying. That's why the take is spicy. If you think from season one. You're giving her too much credit? Remember last season?

Remember last season when John was going to war? She was like, just listen to me. She won the Battle of the Bastards. Who won the Battle of the Bastards? Not John. No, Sansa. Sansa won Battle of the Bastards. She's like, you need just listen to me. She won the Battle of the Bastards. Who won the Battle of the Bastards? Not Jon. No, Sansa. Sansa won Battle of the Bastards. She's like, you need to listen to me.

I'm smarter than you think. I'm smarter than you think. No one listens to me. And she goes, you went over there to this dragon queen, and you bent the knee after Whedon said, we'll never bend the knee again. We'll never bend the knee again. So this was all her plan. She's conniving.

But what happens if, all right, let's say Tyrion doesn't have that intervention with Jon and convince him to kill Dany. What happens then to Sansa's plan? Sansa was going to make her plan. She said, remember at the beginning, she said the whole north is outside these gates. So she was just lined up. We ready to go. But if Jon didn't bend the knee, Dany would have never came to Winterfell to defend him. She understood that had to happen, but she was like, this your queen now?

You said you were going to go get these soldiers to come fight. You didn't say you was going to bend the knee. She knew that he was going to bend the knee, though. She knew he was going to bend the knee. She was furious, but she knew. There was even that line where something about love makes you do stupid things or whatever. So she knew he was going to bend the knee. But this is really interesting.

This is interesting to peel back the game and look knew who's gonna bend the knee but this is really interesting like this is interesting to like peel back the game right and look at everybody's objective in the game just because this is very interesting because everybody has something that they want obviously with danny was the easiest it was the iron throne right sansa just free the north so all these other things are happening and she's going queen of the north fair or or the queen of north right but it's like so so basically, and she's going – The queen of the north. Or the queen of the north, right? But it's like – so basically she's cooking things up like, okay, I don't care about the slaves being freed and – that means nothing to me. Once it comes over here, this is the only thing that I'm going to do, and I'm going to cook things up. And you know what?

Maybe rushing the season made that a little bit too foggy. It could have been way more present more i'm curious to see when the book comes out if that's something that's more really fleshed out in the book i'm curious oh real quick yeah have we spoken about this because i've had so many game of thrones conversations i always think they're wester bros by the time we come here but i think both of those books are done that's that's the hot take that's my theory right is i think he finished both the books right and then the publisher he's talking to publishers like yeah let's get these out. And they're like, no, stupid. So they had the guy.

And they're like, what are you talking about? They're like, listen, this is about to be the biggest show in the world. You let them be the biggest show in the world. We know the books are going to be different than how they do the thing. They don't want to ruin the ending. Was that one of them? You want to ruin the ending too now, right? No, I think they might have a similar ending just because they told him.

Why he didn't roll the books up ahead of the show. Maybe HBO cut a check and was like, guys, those books don't come out. No, no, no, no. Back it up, back it up. This is what I would do, right? If I'm writing a book, right? And you see exponential growth on a TV show that's based on a book, right? I have two more books left. The TV show

is going to go on without it, right? You have fans that are having podcasts like us. There are tons of YouTube videos. Everybody wants to know what this George R. R. Martin guy really has to say, right? You have fans that are having podcasts like us. There are tons of YouTube videos. Everybody wants to know what this George R.R. Martin guy really has to say, right? And we'll accept the HBO version, but there's a real version. Why not let the show reach a critical mass,

then drop the books? Well, also, why not? Because now you have 150 million people that are going to buy the books instead of 100 million that we're going to buy at season six. So as a businessman- Correct, I get that. Yeah. But also, why not, when you're selling the books, advertise it100 million that we're going to buy at season six. Correct. I get that. But also, why not, when you're selling the books,

advertise it as the real ending? And then you get the real ending. So Robin and Aaron's thing. So there's still a chance. All I'm saying is, business-wise, that's what I would have done. And I just find it hard to believe this guy knows

exactly what's going on. Come on, B. So the actor who plays Sir Barristan Selmy, like an old British dude character actor. Not happy. Not happy about his character. Oh, I saw that. In that interview, he's close with George, I guess,

and he said he has confirmation that the two books are finished. And then after the fact, George came out and said, I haven't finished the books. He doesn't know what he's talking about. I knew it, bro. Alex, have I not been saying that shit? books are finished. And then after the fact, George came out and said, I haven't finished the books. He doesn't know what he's talking about. I knew it, bro! Alex, have I not been saying that shit? You have been. Yo!

You guys are going to read the books? Hell yeah! Oh, I'm reading the... So I was always like, from the start of the show... I'm going to start at set. I'm going to look at how long the audio version is. When I see it's 4,000 hours, I'm going to be like, all right, someone will just tell me what it's about.

No, I'll listen to them books I'll listen Oh why don't they have The actors voice the audio books That'd be so complex That'd be dope Wouldn't that be dope though To pull that off They'd have to pay them

Like at this point Yo can we talk about How Cersei got paid A million dollars an episode To drink wine Nah it's 500,000 To drink wine Yeah

That's okay No no no She was literally on a balcony going, hmm. She was only in like two episodes a season. Oh, wait. I thought she was in every one. No, she wasn't.

No, no. They had the whole Battle of Winterfell. She wasn't in the single. Oh, sneaky. Sneaky. Again, that's the problem, right? Like, when I saw Cersei and Jaime in the rubble, I was completely numb to it.

Maybe Jaime a little more affected by it, but Cersei, I was like, I thought she, in my mind, she'd been dead already because she was gone for so long yeah and like her character is literally dead before she died because her character wasn't doing anything right like that we know her love the way cersei died she died in the most meaningless way no one will sing songs about her everybody in game of thrones like you will go out and do this they will sing songs about you

and they risk their lives and they go and die for songs to be sung about them No one's singing the song about the girl who died, but no one would have known who if she died if someone stabbed her Miserable crying death the most meek death you could ever have and I'm cool with that. I'm cool with that I'm super excited though to switch subjects about this episode We just watch because it seems to me like they set up an aria spinoff or i was gonna say what if they go like um hbo does this a lot with their big shows like uh entourage and sex in the city like they go movie route one or two movies post show they kind of left a lot of shit for like they did like like what like all right the dead body of danny right

like theoretically in this magic realm yeah yeah she could be brought back to life. Right. I'm just saying, like, we don't know where Drogon is. We don't know what's west of Westeros. Arya's about to go on this new adventure. I thought Westeros was west. I didn't understand that whole thing. I guess there's... And that's why I'm saying that's the whole show.

Yeah, no, and they're going to do spin-offs that they've announced. They have five in production. There's prequels, but there's going to be sequels, too. Of course. And Arya's the fan favorite far and away. Is she? Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

I am not drawn to Arya's character at all. With the jump man, with the knife. Yeah. Yo, man, first of all, that's a great shirt. But I'm saying it. She's a great shirt. She's clearly the fan favorite. But what are we so excited to see her do?

What is compelling? Get King's Landing cancer? King's Landing cancer? No, she's way less interesting. Was that snow or ash? It started as ash and then it was snow. Oh, it was snow. Remember the Drogon's shaking off the snow? That was all snow.

I thought that was ash. I thought it was snow in King's Landing. And I thought winter's over. Where the fuck did that snow come from? And winter is over because they made sure to tell us when he was going to the wildling spot. Did you guys see that one little weed growing out of the snow? Yeah. It's like summer's here.

Winter's already over? Summer's here. As soon as the Night King died, it was over. That's it. He's bringing winter. Yeah. It's not like how seasons work. Yeah.

That was ash. That was ash, right? Yeah, that was ash. But that shit looked, I don't know, man. I got confused halfway through. There were two good dragon reveals in the last two episodes. That dragon reveal out of the ash was ill. What about the imagery of Danny walking up?

Love that. That's just like the third right. Love that. And the wings behind her. Yeah. Yo, but what about where the fuck did she get that black leather? John Varvatos is all the same. That was different, right?

That was a different outfit. That was different. She just burnt the whole shit down. She had an outfit change. Where the fuck did she get that shit from? That's Beyonce, bro. Marvedos, bro. Is there like a little pouch in the back of the dragon that she keeps these outfits in?

Everybody in the council was decked out. Gendry had some like Wolverine. Yeah, Gendry was lit. What the fuck was that about? Gendry been home. He got a whole castle. Yeah, man. And Bron came back.

No money. He's been getting lit. Bron doesn't address. Dude. The whole. It's just so empty. Four houses. We want Bron. Buck chips, Bron.

By the way, I actually love the episode. Except for the Bran thing. That's a pretty big piece of it. Why do you love the episode? I thought it felt like an old Game of Thrones episode. It was entertaining. The Jon-Tyrion scene was old school game of thrones like that dialogue what you mean i laughed like five times and that there was an actual scene and they were talking

yeah that we haven't had that all season yeah it might have been my favorite episode this season except for the fucking brand thing that shit really tell me why you hated the brand thing i'm so annoyed that brand is on the throne why he even acted like a dickhead as soon as he got it yeah he goes why do you think i'm like that was why do you think i came all this way yeah shut the fuck up seriously uh i knew you would say that i'm annoying when people argue with brand right kick rocks by the way now he's gonna worgen to fucking Drogon? Or he's going to look for him? No, he's going to look for him. He's going to look for him.

He's going to go play video games while Tyrion runs. Like, what really changed, bro? What really changed? Nothing changed. It's dumb. He's still running. He's just got Oculus. I didn't watch eight seasons for Bran, and I didn't want Sansa to end up on the throne.

And quite honestly, when she threw a little fit At the fucking council meeting Honestly man I know there's Sansa Hive out there But like yo man Fuck Sansa Fuck Sansa I think Sansa's

Running this whole thing Great fuck her You don't think she controls Her little brother Dude Sansa's the true You think she controls Bran

He's basically not Bran anymore He's not Bran anymore You don't think she's got Control over him No she don't Not Bran Let's hear why You don't Let's hear why You are triggered

Let's hear why I've never seen Haney this upset Did you eat yet bro? I know it's Ramadan But like god damn man Somebody got a snicker Fucking What's his face

He's playing with no water or food You can't do a podcast without getting cranky What's the guy's name? On the trailblazers Enos Cantor Yeah Enos Did you He may say What's the guy's name? On the trailblazers? Yeah, Enos. What?

What? Nothing. Are you bringing facts into the logistic survival? Are you analyzing thoughts? Is that what you're doing? Thank you, Marco, for bringing the facts into the jokes. We always need a fact checker for our jokes over here on Western.

No, Mark, I waited three hours. I was so wrapped up in Game of Thrones, I forgot to eat three extra hours. Technically, Ramadan ends in Easter. Good point. What were you trying to say? Go ahead. No, go ahead. Go ahead.

I just think Sansa controls him. You love Sansa. She's very persuasive. You are the king of Sansa Hive. I'm absolutely Sansa Hive. Fuck Sansa Hive. This whole thing was her. She picked up the Game of Thrones that was sparked off by Littlefinger.

That's what she did. She definitely, she's playing it. And you gotta go back to what Cersei said. Cersei says, when you play the Game of Thrones, you win and you die. Who was the only person pictured on the throne this episode? Sansa. Which throne got burned down The Iron Throne

There's only one throne In the whole seven kingdoms And that's Sansa's So you have the ability I think what you're talking about Is true But I guess what I'm saying Is like

In the old thrones That would have been laid out More clear Absolutely And I'm curious to see If the books Corroborate what he said. They've got a lot of pages. You have the ability to kind of look at it and be able to see that.

No, I'm just looking at this episode by episode and going like. From what they gave you. From what they gave me. And what they gave us wasn't. Right. So we've got two different things going on, which I think is a good point. One is idea. The other is execution.

Idea? Yes. Might be that Sansa ran his whole ship from the jump on some Kaiser Sose. She definitely did. It could be that. Now, the way they executed that, which probably would have taken minimum two full seasons more for the reveal. Like, oh shit, she's really the puppet master. You don't do that in six episodes.

Right. So you saw it because I think you've been Sansa Hive. And then the rest of us, and I like Sansa, but I was like, all right, this is working out kind of with her, but I don't think that she's orchestrating the whole shit from the jump. That could be what was intended. But you can at least admit that they could have executed it better than they did. They could have spelled it out more. I don't think they did that. I think they just left it up for interpretation which i personally enjoy because you don't mention sansa in that

in that uh discussion between tyrian and danny if she's not important you don't mention her so when at the beginning of the last episode right right right right right talk about sansa yeah yeah and they show her in that clip so you don't mention that or show that if that's not important. Yeah. Now, she wanted that throne, bro. Because she went down to the crypt very quickly. Like, all the other women in Winterfell was like, I can fight. Even, like, the little girls were like, I can fight. And Sansa was like, the crypt?

I'm cool. Is that? Oh, it's downstairs? Where? Okay. Y'all figure it out. Survive in advance. Exactly, right?

Okay. You hated it, that episode. Yeah, it was terrible. Tell us why. I didn't like it at all. All right. Okay Y'all figure it out Survive in advance Exactly right Okay You hated it that episode Yeah it was terrible Tell us why I didn't like it at all Alright So Deep breath

Deep breath Deep breath It was like the sigh On that Drake Oh man The audacity The audacity. The audacity.

All right, go. Talk to us. So, Tyrion has now gone from death row to hand of the king twice. Like, that whole concept is tied. Three times. Three times. Three times. That whole concept is, like, extremely tired to me now.

Ah. Right? That's number one. Number two, listen. What were those times just so we can... The first one was to Joffrey. Right. Right. And then

he went, I guess he was a prisoner of John to Dany. And then this again, here he is in custody. Right. Then he's the one who also has to Fight for his own

Life Theoretical justice And Grey Worm Clearly wanted justice Right Like he became the one That just everyone Listened to

Yeah Smartest man in the realm I think that's what They're trying to say But I understand That they've done it A few times But what is

The other people Who are sitting there What is their relationship To Tyrion Why they feel compelled to listen to him? They don't fucking know him. I think the writers would like you to believe that they are so wowed by his brilliance that they— His reputation.

His reputation is, as we talked about this before, is unknown, right? The other thing that happened, which I also didn't like at the end of this, was the Battle of Blackwater. No one knows Tyrion was the real hero of the Battle of Blackwater. Tyrion wasn't the real hero of the Battle of Blackwater. Let me guess, Sansa. He had a major contribution. He came up with the whole

Wildfire plan. Sansa infected Blackwater. He came up with the whole Wildfire plan. It was Tywin and the Tully army who was the king. But if they didn't have who was the king,

they would have sacked him. When they sued him, where was Tyrion? On the ground with his face put open. But he held them off long enough. If he came up with the battle, it would have been over. He got lucky. He was about to lose.

He was about to die. Anti-Tyrion, all in on Tyrion. He was about to die. If he had a bad battle plan, well, two things. He had a bad battle plan because they lost. They lost the battle. The only reason they won the battle with Blackwater was because Tywin and the Tellys came and swooped in.

It does say W. It does say W. That's fine. It's like America in a Revolutionary War. It's like we lost a lot of battles. Tyrion was Jordan. Tyrion was Michael Jordan, right? And Steve Kerr was Tywin? Yep, exactly. That's exactly where I was going.

But Jordan still had 40 in that game. That's the thing, right? You think Terry had 40 when he ended up? I don't know. I would say he had a good 30. And a hell of an efficiency. So let's go back to that battle. Let's go back to that battle.

The advanced metrics were crazy. He blew up the ships. The soldiers came to the ship. He didn't score 30. But you know what he did? He limited their best player to 15. But I see what you're saying. My point is the show best player to 15. But I see what you're saying. My point is the show.

He played good D. I see what you're saying. I think there's an argument there. The problem I have is the show wanted you to feel that he got shafted when they talk about him. I'm talking serious. Why are you laughing at me? I love it. The show.

No, fucks. That's what I thought the ending was an ode to that, was that he was not going to be mentioned. Any record of him being involved was expunged. That was like Joffrey's thing. No one would ever know that Tyrion was even there. Forget that he gave that big speech or whatever. So then at the end, it's the same thing. He's not there.

So I forgot where we were going with this. You were tired of that same trope where he goes from- And you were like, why are they listening to him even at the castle? Exactly, because the other people from the Robin from the Vale all the different other lanes they don't have a relationship to Tarion

so that's that I didn't understand um Brandon the Broken is just like a terrible name what a stupid I hate that

that's so insulting he's a great name was when he called him Lord of Lofty Titles when Davos called them Lord of Lofty Titles. That's great. When Davos called Bron Lord of Lofty Titles. I loved it. That shit was fun.

Davos was like, I don't know if I get a vote, but that was great. So that was the thing. And then the other thing was, where did we really end up? Because at the end, you have a king who who i like i don't know i know that there's things in the books that reveal things about brand that just people watch the show don't know about him right he didn't really inspire a lot of confidence in me that like he's going to be a good leader first he had like kind of a dickhead comment that he was like oh yeah that's why i'm here i'm going to be king yeah and then yeah yeah and then he's sitting

and then he's sitting there he's like all right everyone right, everyone's here. All right, you know what? I'm going to go look at this fucking dragon. No, he literally was like, I have better things to do. Which is to look for a dragon. Like, A, I don't want to say the significance. That's what all the kings did. Right. So we're right back where we started.

Right, exactly. He wants to do some shit that he wants to do, which is like, look for a dragon. Fine. Play video games. Whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tyrion is now back being the hand. You have fucking, Bronn wants to build brothels

like we went all the way backwards but that's also I think maybe and then Jon goes to the wall to really put the cherry on the cake here

well he goes to be a wildling he's the king beyond the wall but in theory they're like we're just gonna send you back to the wall

you fucked up but that's the cost of but the back to the wall was a move right that was a move by Sansa and I'll give Sansa credit for that when that was like

hey this is gonna be the punishment. You get life in prison. Grey Worm goes, all right, bet. That works. And then the second he's there, it's like, sneak out. If I'm Jon, I'm telling you, trial by combat, tell Grey Worm to come get Sansa. That's how I would have done that shit. And if it was eight episodes, we would have had it.

You know what I mean? I would have loved to see gray worm in Nath though. I would have loved to see him like chillin on a beach Some brothel chick massage in his ears. I would have loved to see that. Yeah, you also need to understand all about Tyrion black water battle when Tyrion was knocked out for two weeks and then Varys came back and he was like Yeah, Tywin won the war you didn't do shit So there was no record of Tyrion ever winning the war and since then he has done nothing right Oh great he's been trashed so so that's why he's not in this book but he's not even in the book at the end when he was the one who organizes the the murder of

Danny and he you know those Blackwater as Varys. Remember Varys said, at least I know who really won the war. Right. And the other thing was, they say, she says when she's talking about breaking the wheel, Starks and Targaryens and Baratheons. And I go, well, now. It's just Starks. Now it's just Starks.

We're right back. Now it's just Starks. You got the name right, but you turned into a Long Island housewife. It was Starks and Targaryens and the Battle of Blackwaters. It's too much. How many clams must I make? You're making me nauseous. I can't make enough clams for everybody.

These Starks, they just eat clams all day. All right. No, I mean, I guess that's also kind of the point is like if you're not going to go the radical route, which was definitely Danny in this case, it's inevitable that it's going to go back to some kind of... Question. Right? Did you guys think it was cool that Danny was

killed pretty early in the episode? Yo, I did because I didn't think she would die at that second. I knew she would die this episode. I didn't think she would die. I thought she would die like 35 minutes later. So when I heard the, I was like, oh shit. You really didn't see that coming? No, not at that second. When they played the Disney music and they were making out, I was like, it's happening right now.

What music? I don't ever hear the fucking music. Turn the volume off. Put that baby in another room. Turn the volume off, fam. God damn. That was the volume off. Put that baby in another room. Turn the volume off, fam. God damn. That was the exact prophecy. When I saw her walking, I was like, okay, that's going to happen because when she goes in that prophecy, she walks out the door and that's her dying.

So speak of your prophecies. Who was the prince that was promised? Okay. All right. Okay. So here's my- I don't know. So it's either Arya or Jon. We've got to make a decision. Here's my hunch. Okay. So here's my. I don't know. So I don't know. Are you or John?

We got to make a decision. Here's my hunch. Okay. The princess who was promised. Right. Because it's whatever. Is Sansa. She.

Shocking. She. Who was. Who in this show was promised anything? No. Is Joe Jonas paying you right now? Wait. Let me break down my theory. And I'm getting this off of Kool-Aid.

Jonas is serious. That's how you got the pool. He's in all the wedding photos. Who was promised? Sansa was promised the throne. She was promised to Joffrey. She didn't get Joffrey. She never married Joffrey. She ended up marrying Margaery.

She was promised mercy. She never got promised mercy. Her dad never got mercy. She was promised by Littlefinger that he would never do harm. She got raped by everybody. Literally everybody. would never do harm. She got raped by everybody. Literally everybody. So the only prince

or princess who was promised anything was Sansa, who was also the only one on the throne. The prince who was promised. So the prince who was promised was just wrong. The prince who was promised was... That's how you interpret it. That's how you interpret it. Okay, so where's the sword that's

bearing light? I think that was Jon. That was Jon. Into Nissa Nissa, pull it out, and it was Lightbringer. Which is why the throne melted down. And what about the ending of the Long Night? The Dark Knight or whatever. Well, now it's over. Right, but Arya was the one who ended it.

Yeah, Jon should have got the Night King. I don't know, but whatever. So we're just all over the place with this prophecy coming true. Okay. It's a metaphor. Let's break down this prophecy again. One prophecy was that you were speaking of that a prince was going to end the long night. The prince was promised.

Zorahai is the prince that was promised, right? And part of the prophecy is that – hang on one second. The show stopped using the term around season like five. But it was mentioned all the time initially by the Red Witch. the term around season like five but it was mentioned all the time initially yeah by the Red Witch she would always talk about

the Prince of His Promise right and then the Prince of His Promise was gonna do all these things that Jack's gonna read us now I don't know so

it's Arya cause that's who when she was like you're gonna kill green eyes blue eyes red eyes but that wasn't

the Prince of His Promise that was just some shit that she said to him I think that was I, I thought that was coincidence. I think they, they called back to that line. That was purely coincidence. I think when they wrote that shit, they had no intention of that actually being like,

oh, blue eyes for white walkers. That was convenient, I think. Alright, here's the prophecy. Interesting. There will come a day after a long summer when the stars bleed and the cold breath of darkness falls heavy on the world in this dread hour a warrior shall draw from the fire a burning sword and that sword will be light bringer the red sword of heroes and he who clasp it shall be azor ahai come again

and the darkness shall flee before him and that's the only prophecy that's the like man is or a high prophecy in the books translated through like valerian or whatever hmm hi Valerian hi old Valerian hi it's like the Bible though it's like when you say some shirt but like I say some shit in the Bible Bible when you say something in the Bible it says one thing but it means something totally different right so we can fit somebody into that prophecy so I the long summer, which was when everyone existed, comes a cold night, which was the Night King that came through, and then they kill the prince, which was Daenerys, and then peace comes to the realm.

Those are our hat. So then Jon Snow is the prince of his promise. It's either Jon or Arya, depending on how you interpret the promise. What the darkness was yeah Ah She literally ended the darkness by Killing the Night King By killing the Night King

But Is the darkness Dany or is the darkness Night King I don't fucking know I'm lost I say Night King Literally yeah we can We can take that as probably the closest

I think they just They stopped running with it I as probably the closest. I think they just stopped running with it. I don't think they... Yeah, I think they dropped the ball. Any other thoughts? I think we should go broader. We're not going to talk about episode and just talk about the series now because the series is done. Before we do that, I want to get Wheezy's take on it. Wheezy, would you come here and tell us for a second how you felt about the

Game of Thrones? I'm like a gang bang thing. There's five of you. Jesus Christ. To make it sexual. I'm sorry. I am doing a sexisode on Game of Thrones now. You are? Yeah. It's for my Patreon because Mandy doesn't watch.

There's so many fetishes and different deviant shit and I feel like I want to break down all the scenes because porn hub has it anyway hold on one second let um haney speak on the mic oh shit we got it going um so yeah i want to do a game of thrones sexisode and talk about you know like the bisexual threesome with the dorn guy and like you know and you've watched from the beginning yeah what were your thoughts on this last episode super disappointed why i felt like you know especially even when i'm upset and angry at the episode in a good way right when like all these fucking kids are burning last week right i'm enraged i can feel it i felt nothing i wanted to grab my phone and look at twitter

there wasn't a lot of emotional connection for this not at all what about the moments between the brother and sister like when like john would like hug sansa or hug aria and there's these moments that i thought was great i i actually didn't mind like how it ended i didn't mind the brand thing but i just felt he was fixing the chairs yeah i liked it i liked that moment but like he was fixing the chairs Just think about that for a minute. It had no significance. An hour and a half he spent. He's nervous. But come on.

Do something else. Have Danny die with some more blood. Give me more than that. The dragon shit, that was great. But maybe the point is life goes on. Right? Maybe the point is it continues. This is part of the existence. Fucked up shit happens, but we got to keep on moving. Then why make it continues like this is part of the existence fucked up shit

happens but we got to keep on moving then why make it so intense this entire time remember when sam was at the mesas he was like they always say the kingdom's gonna end but it never does right it never does they always say the kingdom's gonna end remember that one time that happened remember that one time this happened it never does it always goes it always goes i will tell you what this episode was i was embarrassed to tell people that I've been investing this much time in it. Imagine if you started watching Game of Thrones this season just to check it out. You'd be like, what the fuck is this? This is stupid.

There was nothing exciting. Bullshit. You could have someone sit in your house while you were watching any other Game of Thrones episode and they'd be like, oh shit, what is this? No. But they shouldn't be able to enjoy this in and of itself, in my opinion. Shouldn't we feel closure? I would actually say the fault of it is maybe you can enjoy it without...

It's so surface level, this season, that you don't really need to know a lot about it. Actually, this is a great point. The Walking Dead watchers hopped on board. It's more accessible. Here's the main complaint of people watching season one, right? I had to convince a lot of people to watch it because

they watched the first three episodes and like, I have no idea what's going on. It's so dense. There's all these characters.

They're all doing different shit. What is going on? Yeah. Right. And that's the testament to how good it was because

when you get invested and you put the time in, you're like, holy shit, there's so much shit here. This season was the opposite of that. And I feel like this

was like the most commercialized, mainstream, storybook version of Game of Thrones. Fucking Jerry Brock Island. So I would argue that it's actually more accessible because of that. You could just tune in and be like, oh, there's a dragon. But was that really what HBO wanted? More accessible? Dude, we all fucking started

paying for it again. What HBO wanted was 14 more seasons of this, but they weren't going to do it. Would you rather not have it or would you rather have what we have now? I would rather not have this version of it. Me too. Hold on. So the question is, would you rather have what we have now? I would rather not have this version of it. Me too. Hold on. So the question is, would you rather they just stopped making the show?

Yeah. Or have this? Or finish the actual story. Give them another 10 years to give me good shit. I want them to finish this show. If they had to call this out. The way that Harry Potter works, think about it. One thing is, I would obviously want a conclusion versus nothing but i feel like there are ways to

make a better conclusion and i guarantee once that those novels drop hbo is going to license them shits again and they're going to run it right back i don't think they wanted to do it with different showrunners so they were like they they better i see i think if we i think if there's anything we learned is that the talent is george. R. Martin, not the showrunners. Because the second the showrunners had to do it by themselves, all of us started losing our shit going, these episodes suck. Well, they didn't want to do it. Well, then let someone else do it. Why is that our problem?

That's what's crazy about, like, you know what's so crazy to me is there's this character that they're literally writing, which is Tyrion, right? Who gets written out of history, right? And he has to check his ego, right? He has to check his own ego. And they can't do it. And they couldn't even fucking do it, you blind pieces of shit. You could just hand this off

to other capable storytellers. There's a lot out there. By the way, on the staff, there's other writers that have written a bunch of episodes. Done. Brian Cogman. You know what's up?

The actors are so good. Yeah, fantastic. Sophie Turner's 23. But that's meaningless. Right? I mean, think about Cogman passed it over to him. You know what's bad about that? The actors are so good. Yeah, fantastic. Sophie Turner's 23. But that's meaningless. Right? I mean, think about that. No, it isn't meaningless. They brought all of that feeling.

They can't do it either. Actors are meaningless. But my point, I mean, we watch King Jarfee, we watch all these people bring all this energy into that and you're telling me you have these great people

we've watched that long and you gave them this? It's not a thing. That's why they left a Starbucks cup. They don't give a fuck. No, I think they did it on purpose,

but the thing about the actors is like, it doesn't matter how good an actor is if the story sucks. That's my point. You put these people to waste. You've invested so much time.

You've made them amazing at their craft. It's not fair to the, you're saying it's not for the actors. That's what I'm saying. Imagine. Like for the actors,

I understand why the actor who plays Varys is pissed off about his character going out the way he did, right? Yeah. Like Sir Barristan or whoever it is. Basically, every actor. There's a three-minute compilation of every actor on the show complaining about this.

Being disappointed about it. Yeah, it's great. Going back to, like, how if I could, if I had the two options, would I wait or would I just take this version? Yeah. Like, if you told me that at the end of the last season when we were like, oh my god, we gotta wait a year and a half, what the fuck? I would've been like, give it to me now. And we waited. But me now but we waited so like why not just wait a

little longer yeah like oh yeah we waited a year and a half for this that's crazy that's maybe what makes it worse is that i waited two years for this rushed season yeah if you're gonna get if you're gonna wait give us two years right away What was the point? But at the same time, we still got two of the best Game of Thrones episodes we ever had. In what? The Bells. Last episode.

All right, I'll agree with that. That was one of the best episodes in the history of the show. By best, don't get me wrong. Wait, what was the other one? I don't think best means over... I like this episode.

I love this, but you gotta feel it. Yeah, I wouldn't say one of the best, but I liked it. It was really good. But not even in the top ten. Five was the shit. Five was the shit. And episode five, you didn't like it, but you I wouldn't say One of the best But I liked it It was really good But not even in the top 10 Five was the shit Five was the shit

And episode five You didn't like it I would say it was Like a top five episode Absolutely Absolutely was Best episode of the entire season Was the season six finale

Top five episodes go In my opinion Go Winds of Winter You go then You'll go next Season six finale When Cersei

Kills the cathedral. Fire. A bunch of main characters. Second, Battle of Blackwater. Maybe Battle of the Bastards. One of the battles, right? Three. Let's put that in there.

Sure. What about the Mountain and the Viper? I'll do that. Fulver and Martell. Incredible episode. What about the Lion and the Rose? I think it's called the Lion and the Rose. Where Joffrey dies? Yep. Incredible episode. I about the line in the road? Or I think it's called the line in the rose where Joffrey dies. Yep.

Incredible episode. Red Wedding. Did we even talk about Red Wedding? It's got to be in there. Hard Home. Hard Home. Incredible. Amazing.

Whoa. You guys didn't enjoy the one where Cersei got the shit thrown at her? Shame. That's the one after. Shame was amazing. Winner, winner. That first eight minutes with Cersei getting ready. He's back.

He was doing so well, too. He was doing so well. I was getting excited. Bro, he said Targaryen. He said all of them perfectly. Xerxes. Xerxes. Yeah, yeah.

That was like the best eight minutes of television I've ever seen. I'm curious to know, why don't you like Arya? I like Arya. Why don't you have a- You saw her in LA once. She said she walked weird. It was the whole thing for her. What? Oh, wait. That was a whole thing for now. What?

Oh, wait. That was off the tape? No, no. She walks like LeBron James. You know, this show is so important to me as a woman. She walks like LeBron James. Because there's so many strong women. As much as I hated Cersei, I enjoyed...

She's the best. I love Cersei. I was rooting for Cersei. Arya, what does she do? It's so unbelievable. You're 4'11". You don't have that vertical. There's no way that you're that good with the weapons. I don't mind that. No, I don't like that. She's 4'11 you don't have that vertical there's no way

that you're that good with the weapons I don't mind that she's 4'11 so how tall is Tyrion but we love him because he's smart he's not ninja-ing

people to death he's smart Brianna Tarth bodies motherfuckers because she's 6'4 and Arya she's Val Kilmer Arya is fucking killer bro

Arya body Brianna Tarth yo but Arya's too little like I don't buy it I don't buy that part no but got to enjoy that part of it. There's nothing romantic about it. It's like, what? I can't follow that. There's no love story.

I mean, you know. And Sansa, I totally agree with you. Those setting up shit. I love how they've played out women in this shit. What's the old lady's name? The grandma. Olenna. Lady Olenna.

All of them was bomb. She was amazing. What's her name that I wanted to fuck? The Dorne chick That died with her daughter Yeah I would have loved to see her body In the basement though

Because she was still in the basement Watching her daughter die That's what they were waiting for One of the sickest ways That would have been good I would have loved to see her In the basement That was such a good episode

Someone like run by her And then just two bodies in the basement That would be perfect By the way Who was the Dorne representative In the council in this episode That was the Prince of Doran. You didn't miss that flowing hair?

Bro, my man's chest. Ow. Yeah, full. Chest maw. I put it all black. Also, what's up with the lack of sex this season? You give me rape in the first one? I don't know.

I get all the sex I could have with Jamie. I don't want to see no R, you pussy. When they ran the pre-episode, they go like violence, nudity. There was no nudity. I had a single tear. I really wanted to see Brienne's nipple. And I kind of was a little upset. I'm like, wow, really?

You give me clavicle? She was fucking, she was a big girl. She's a big woman. Where's the big woman? I feel like there's so much shit in Game of Thrones that they didn't give me. Left on the table. You know what I mean? There's a few things that I feel like there's so much shit in Game of Thrones that they didn't give me. Left on the table. You know what I mean? There's a few things that I didn't get that I wanted.

I wanted Brienne to go above the walls and go back and be with Tormund. I thought that would have been dope. Yes. Since Jaime broke her heart. Pretty blonde dudes was obviously her type. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. She was fucking hot. She'll find another one.

All right, so what do we think about her rewriting Jamie's story? What do you mean? I like that. Oh, I love that. I liked it. She did a Wikipedia. Oh, fuck Jamie. What's the big deal?

Why is everyone so concerned about Jamie's legacy? Because he's good-looking women like good-looking people. We got a soft spot for that. You know what I mean? Jamie did all that shit. What she didn't write is at the end, he went back to the bitch. Yes, she wrote that. She did.

She said he died in his queen. He died protecting his queen. He did write in his queen. That's what I thought? Jamie did all that shit. What she didn't write is like, at the end, he went back to the bitch. Yes, he did. She wrote that. She did. She said he died in his queen. He died protecting his queen. That's what I thought was so dope about it because I would have been selling him out. I'd have been like, the arm fell off.

She didn't lie. She didn't lie. He died protecting his queen. That's funny. That's what he did. I mean, it's funny that she couldn't use it as an opportunity.

She could have been petty because I would have did it. She could have been petty. You're right. Dick ain't even that big. Doesn't have a big Comes mad fast Like I don't even understand

Why you sweat him In the first place You know The best part about him Is that stump on his arm Did he hit her With the gold hand No he takes it off

You can get fisted with that What do you guys think Happened to all the ravens That Varys sent out Yo What happened I don't know. I'm assuming

that they were all, I guess they went out to everyone, right? Is that who they went out to, all the lords? the council probably knew that John, about John's lineage.

I guess that's how they knew who John was and everything. You know, I really thought this show was going to be over until the more I sit here, there's so many questions that are unanswered.

It's like, did they do it on purpose or they just don't give a fuck? I'm sure part of it's on purpose, like leave it open for the sake of another episode. When she said, I want to figure out what's West, I was unanswered. It's like, do they do it on purpose or they just don't give a fuck? I'm sure part of it's on purpose, like leave it open for the sake of another episode. When she said, I want to figure out

what's West, I was like, okay. West of Westeros? Y'all about to come out with the movie. West of Westeros? She's not interesting

without her revenge narrative. That's what I'm saying. She's not interesting anymore. You just want to steal her. I don't want to see fucking parts unknown aria. Take it out,

Walda Frey. That's the best. I know. Who gives a fuck? Her walking around eating food in Western. She doesn't like anyone. She can't kill anyone because she has no reason to be walking around killing people. Right.

If that's the case, then she's a scumbag. Yeah, she's a scumbag. But hold up. Maybe the town is going to be fucked up West of Westeros. Maybe she needs to stay next to Bran and make sure no one tries to off him at some point. Boom. That's the king. People said that about Arya Arya too when Arya went on her load of things it was like I don't care about Arya she ended up being the most entertaining

character so I think something about her made it and there was a storyline with Wester Westeros because her shit to me isn't smart enough. She's sneaky. That's a wild hot take though that you're out on this whole Arya. Completely out. Yeah I would say like I didn't even like her killing I would say I'm just saying for me what I love about Cersei is that she outsmarts everyone

like everybody gets bodied but not everybody can be just outsmarting people some people gotta get their hands dirty yeah but don't make shows about them

and to be fair Arya was the one that made the hound go back in and start fighting she inspires people to do shit in this tiny little person.

Right. She takes action. Cersei was sitting there with that wine glass like, okay, you know. Just bodying people. And Sansa's trying to figure out how to game play, and she's just showing up to people, taking people's necks out. Like, that's, you've got to appreciate that. Yeah, it's a side character.

No, Arya's not a side character. Arya is a great side character. Arya is a side character? Why do you think the whole last battle was from her POV? Which one? The bells, the last episode. I love that scene with the horse. She was the one riding around?

She saw someone else out there? She had King's Landing cancer. I didn't. And then she was wrong. That was really good. When she told that lady, okay, come out of here, and then that lady died. That was great. All that emotion.

I loved that. I mean, I don't care who walked around it. I was more into the dragon than I was like Arya's point of view. Really? Yeah. I could have used a taller point of view. You were concerned about the dragon

the whole time. Maybe somebody's six too. We could see over some stuff. I was just looking at fucking chest for the entire episode. All I'm saying is I don't see enough to follow. Like I have zero interest.

Write me a card, but I don't care about going with you west of west. Did you enjoy the faces with Arya? No, it sucked. Okay, so maybe that's why. Well, I liked the faces. The faces.

I like the faces, too, so I think that's what it was. That's when I got invested. Learn how to sweep. I think the hottest take of all is that you think Arya, one, isn't a main character, and two, not a likable character. Side character. The Hulk should never be a main character. Really fun when they pop in and do some shit,

but don't make the movie only about Hulk. She had a great initial setup when she was spending all that time with Tywin and their dialogue was one of the best parts of the show. Some of the best parts of the show. Oh, so when she was a side character. Thank you. That was literally how they were

starting trailers. And she's a side character? No, she's not a side character. She's a side character. Look, all the main characters get their own. John, we were counting off who she was going to get next. This is main characters. John, Dany, Cersei.

Yes. That's it. No. Tyrion. Tyrion. That's it. Sansa. Sansa's a side character.

No. Greyjoy is a side character. Greyjoy is a side character. Who are the- Greyjoy needs to get his mouth shut the first thing you see in the game of thrones is Arya running through

when when you could bro sit down and try to we got one camera angle as soon as you met Sansa

you started to I thought Sansa was a side character so no but wasn't it it was her watching her dad die that's when we felt that like...

Yeah, she had... That's when you fell in love with Ari. That moment, it's like, okay, now you about to do some shit. Ari was the first person you saw when Robert Baratheon comes in. She's running through Winterfell to see him come in.

It's literally from her perspective. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, she was a great point of view. Look, the book is a series of... You know what? You're getting real misogynistic. I've just told you I love Cersei. But she's the only manly bitch on the shot.

Well, Brianna Tarrith. But you know what I'm saying. Brianna Tarrith. Okay, Cersei is just smart. Cersei has the most mask energy. I think Arya... Why? Because she's smart?

No. What is masking about her energy at all? We see her on the throne. We see her be very ruthless. We normally see that with men. You want to fuck Cersei? Yeah. You want to fuck Cersei?

Nah. Word? Yeah, nah. I don't fuck with Cer. Yeah. You want to fuck Cersei? Nah. Word? Yeah, nah, I don't fuck with Cersei. It's the wig. What about Brienne? Cersei has, this is a personal thing. We're getting into my personal thing. We can have everything.

But I've never been into like Keira Knightley because she's this weird thing. You know, that's my thing. Yeah. I like the shoulder bite. Cersei reminds me of Keira Knightley in like the worst way. Because she has that weird shoulder bite. She has that weird shoulder bite. Yeah. And she does this thing with her worst way Cause she has that weird Underbody Wait in life? Yes in real life

Okay so what happened? She was giving me like the sexy eye Lena? Lena? And she was just eyeing me the whole time For like 30 minutes on the press conference Did you throw it at her? Yo I walked over to her and was like hey hey, what's up? And she said,

I thought your hat said cunt. She didn't want to know. What'd it say? But I thought for a good 20 minutes I was about to get so... What'd it say? And after that he was like, it's Salsa or death. Bitch, I don't fuck with Salsa no more.

Now things are starting to make sense. She's like, I'm going to take that hoe out. Did you ever interview Sansa? I'm glad she died a meaningless death. I see it. Meaningless. You're kind of hot with the light. Dying meaningless.

Crying. Fuck her. She died a meaningless. She'll never have songs Stuck about her Okay wait So In real life Who would you wanna fuck then

Hold on He missed this Yeah what did he say He said She'll never have stories Or fables Stuck about her Is that a fable

You did say that They ain't gonna have No fables baby They ain't gonna have No fables Bro Ever Yo just curse at them

It's a song Fire and ice You ain't got neither bitch Yo I have no fables. Bro. Yo, just curse at that person. It's a fire and ice. You ain't got neither, bitch. You look warm over here, bitch. Oh, my God. I can't breathe. Now you think she's a cunt. Yo.

I'm fucking going crazy. That's why you got death by rubble. What? I mean, the rubble was down She's a Flintstone now She's been waiting to say that For three years Yabba dabba don't curve me again What did your hat say?

Cult. Cult. Cult. So before I walk away, I do want to know everyone's top fucks and favorite sex scenes because how else would I end this? Mine was, I hate to say it because as a feminist, I shouldn't like the unwanted sex, but goddamn,

that, like, ish rape scene with Khal Drogo and Khaleesi. Fuck, yo. That was the one. Wow, really? Oof. That got me. You know what I liked early, I think it was season one? That forehead kiss?

No, no. I remember that kiss. The Khaleesi's like maid who was in the bath with Daenerys' brother oh hot wait who's that guy

she used to fuck that had the long hair that was her cousin that was her cousin the other way well I my cousin don't look like that

but let me see who I would want to fuck on the show obviously Jason Momoa but I'm trying to think outside the box here I loved watching Jon Snow and what's-her-name the wildling shit. That was a sexy scene those nipples Why do redheads always have tiny nipples like that? I don't know. But anyway, that was a really cute scene

I mean made me look up ginger porn for like a week. Oh shit. Okay, stop sex scene. I Go to Jack. I'm still thinking Zilla Miss Andre And Grey Worm I just love You like the scissors? You like the dickless scissors?

I just love seeing her tits They just was She was Ridiculous You know what You go ahead Looking at the only black girl on the show Alright brother

I see you Haney It was Ygritte and John Because I shouldn't have been attracted to Ygritte And I had to really It made me I had to go inward And be like Why am I so turned on here shouldn't have been attracted to Ygritte and I had to really maybe I had to go inward and be like

why am I so turned on here? Why not be attracted to her? I don't know because she's like a really skinny redhead and that wouldn't be what I would think I'd be attracted to

but I fucking love you Rose Leslie if you hear this. Wow. Wow. What's yours? Oh, best sex scene. Wow, that is a good question.

They're all on Pornhub. It just hasn't been sex in so long. I haven't even thought about it. Again, getting away from what really matters on the show. I loved the fucking threesomes between the dude and his wife, the Dorn, and they would bring men and women in there. You know which ones? You know which ones?

This is weird. There's a bathtub scene with Fionn and some whore a bathtub scene with Theon and some whore. Well, it's not just some whore. She was the whore. She was the whore. The redhead? Yeah. Yeah.

The one from Winterfell. She was literally every scene she was in, she was naked. She was a whore. Yeah. Or she was a whore. Damn. Let's call this out now. So that one, I think that one.

There was one where the girl's facial expression demonstrated the size of Theon's dick. Because you know they would always talk about how Theon had a big dick? And then she was really into it. And I was like, oh, I guess he does have a big dick. That was your favorite? You like the one, remember when the Lannister soldiers went into the brothel and that chick just crawled with her pussy first? Yes. What?

She crawled backwards. You don't remember that? 100% remember that. But that's the sub in me. I like the Red Witch when she was banging. Yo. I was kind of into that. I was into that body.

I was like, damn. You know what's funny? I saw someone say on Twitter, oh, would you fuck her if you know she could change at any moment? And I was like, yes. What? If I'm already in it, you know what I'm saying? I can close my eyes and feel a little bit happier. When Amelie comes off next thing you know,

you fucking Betty White from the Golden Girls. Once you're in it, though. She get mad dry. The scissoring starts drying out for me. She dries out herself. She mad wet. You know, girl. You take off that necklace.

You start changing. Okay, so if you had to, would you fuck Cersei or Missandei? Missandei. If I had to fuck. I'd marry Cersei. 100% Missandei. Yeah, you got to marry Cersei. What am I fucking for, though? Dude, I don't know. For a nut.

Nah, because sometimes Fucking for experience Is way better Like Cersei's a fucking freak Oh that's a good point Cersei's a freak That is a good point Like I'm gonna fucking

Just get some pussy Cause I'm gonna pick Missandei If I'm fucking like the fuck Cause she's hotter but Yeah I'm gonna pick Cersei Cause Cersei's a freak Cersei's gonna do some wild shit Cersei's gonna do some wild shit

She fucks her brother Danny or Missandei Ooh Danny A million o'clock, we're looking homely and we're alive. I would pick my friend.

You know what I'm saying? She was at the Rockets game the other night in a fucking hat band. Did she get ordered? No. Did she see her? Bro, she had to

fucking skirt onto her ankles. What was I watching? In Houston? Wait, who the fuck? You know why? Because her whole image is based off of being naked as Danny.

Fam, that's overcompensating. I mean, come on. We did see the ass in the first scene. Let me see a little ankle. Let me get some shin. Yeah, she was. Remember when she was wearing that hot ass fucking outfit? Those are my favorite days when it was like hot outside.

I don't remember where they was at. All right. No more horrible decisions. Game of Thrones sex talk. Yeah, this is a crossing paths here. You are such an alpha female. You've turned this into a horrible message.

Big strap energy. Hey! Thank you so much, Wheezy. Thanks, man. Thanks for coming on. Okay, Jack, why don't you take us into what we have to look at,

not for or to, but potentially look at for the future. Did you guys notice... And then we'll wrap it up. Did you guys notice the Westworld trailer? No. Oh, wait.

I thought we were talking about the Game of Thrones future. Oh, yeah. They were talking about podcast future. No, no, no. Game of Thrones future. I think they intentionally left the door open to have a possible sequel or multiple sequels like we were just talking about. The immediate next step is a prequel that takes place a thousand years before all of this shit that went down. And what is happening? That's the Targaryen dynasty?

No, that's like the first men. That's like what happened with the Night King, like how he got turned into the Night King. Oh, shit. So maybe is that why everyone complained about Night King not having a backstory? They probably were saving it. They were just saving it for that? But that still sucks. But yeah, we'll see. I hope D.B. Weiss and David Benioff are not attached.

I hope they never – I'm boycotting everything they do from here on out. So they got signed on to do the next three Star Wars trilogies after this one that comes out in December. But was that no knowledge before the last couple weeks? It came out within the last, like... But did you know that, like, beforehand? Yeah, that's been out. Okay, okay. I didn't know that.

Have you interviewed these guys? No, I never interviewed them. Fucking. I'm trying to say we're actors and not, like... The behind-the-scenes guys. I'm just... Okay, so whatever. We have a couple of things that could happen in the world that's something that we could look forward to I love

they open up the world if you listen to Danny speech he talks about shit I've never heard of before like all types of different lanes you want to conquer oh huh huh okay so then maybe we get to see some of that where the dwarf Racky go they're still there they're just multiplying by the fucking second. Yeah. Well, yeah. There was six of them. Makes no sense.

Yeah. Now they're a full army. Law mail, too. Like, where the fuck? It's unbelievable. Yeah, it's going to be a weird dynamic in King's Landing, for sure. It's only going to have some issues, too, right? Well, because they can't be more.

They can't produce offspring. They're just going to an island where they're all just dickless. I know. They're going to go get their ears rubbed. At some point, you know, it doesn't seem sustainable. Yeah, they're just going to grow old. They're just going to die in this old army. And there's going to be no young people, you know,

putting in, you know, tax benefits to take care of these old people. Yeah. They're just going to die. Good though. Yeah. Grey W They're just going to die. Good though. Yeah. Grey Worm really just, what? Grey Worm really just took a turn

and ended up. I would like to have seen something there. I need a John Grey Worm, bro. I need some smoke. I really wanted to see some smoke. John also really got left with nothing too,

other than a guilty conscience. Like he really, he ended up worse than anyone. Right. But that's where he's supposed to be. No, but he's got a stupid fucking dog. It would have been nice if they somehow didn't kill off your grit and she was just waiting

for him there at the end, bro. Yep. I would have worn my heart as corny as that would have been. Actually, kind of, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because you want to see something happy for him. He's just going to live with the rest of his life. But I guess that's what the whole thing is.

He's been miserable the whole fucking show. He might as well be miserable for the rest of his fucking life. Oh, that's a class half full way to think about it. Jesus Christ. Yeah, guys, what a crazy, I mean, any last thoughts? It's over.

It's just a crazy thing. It sucks that it's over. Let's look at the impact of this show as a show, right? Like before this, Game of Thrones was really like the first triple-A, like blockbuster TV show on this scale. And like it was kind of just paving the way as it went.

And like the idea of seeing a full-blown dragon in season one was like mind-blowing, right? And then we're dealing with three dragons. And then we're dealing with like undead dragons. And then now we're at the point where we're complaining about all this shit. Yeah. But like, we've been given a lot by this show. So much.

Yeah. I still think it's the greatest show ever to be put on television. You look at all the other shows that are comparable to it. I feel like Breaking Bad went out with a thud. Whoa. Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You didn't like the last.

I think the last three episodes of Breaking Bad with the grid is the greatest. Breaking Bad is, in my opinion, the perfect example of how you end a show. Yes. Breaking Bad was okay, whoa. You didn't like the last... I think the last three episodes of Breaking Bad with the Grid is the greatest last... Breaking Bad is, in my opinion, the perfect example of how you end a show. Yes. Breaking Bad was okay, man. It has not aged well. When's the last time you watched Breaking Bad? I've watched it three times over. I've watched every season three times.

It hasn't aged well. Okay. Have you watched it recently? Oh, yeah. It hasn't aged well. I could not... Hot take. Yeah, yeah.

But wait, wait. But here's the thing. If we're looking at... TV has always been I still agree this is the best show in history but I don't think

the ending is good there's an argument to be made with like this is like comparing Avengers to like Goodfellas right like

it's a different form of show and I agree it's one of the best ever Game of Thrones but I almost like look at it differently because it's not like

human story it's not like human story it's this like fantasy world it's like Lord of the Rings comparing Lord of the Rings to you know Taxi Driver or some shit right right there are handcuffs that you uh have to wear telling stories that are real that you do not have to wear in fantasy yeah I don't know I just I've always looked at Game of Thrones as this different thing. It doesn't take away from how great it is. That's fair. That's super fair. But it's also no fun to have those discussions.

It's way more fun to be like, top five all eras. It may be. It may be top five all time. It's just the biggest show ever. Oh, it has to be top five. It's got to be top five all time. Just for the impact alone. And for quality.

God, we were obsessed with this fucking show, man. It was so good. It was so good for a while. And we're not talking about a sitcom that has 22 episodes a season, so you're constantly in your face. We're talking about, what were these seasons? 10? 10, 10, 10, six.

10 episodes. Then we wait a year and a half patiently. For six. For six. This was quality, man. I think for me, maybe if the season was different, I'd be thinking about it more glowingly. Fair enough. As far as impact, you think there's another show ever that is going to be a weekly event?

They say this every time, though. When did they say this last time? This was the last one. Well, but here's the thing. Breaking Bad, people were like, not on the scale because not as many viewers. Game of Thrones was already on at the end of it. Even with Lost. Remember back when Lost was a huge thing?

It's like, oh, it's never going to... I don't think people were ever saying that again. Lost ended crap, too. Lost ended terribly. To be fair, Lost might have been the last network television show. Yeah, network, I think, is that it's true. When you think of the best TV shows, how many of them belong to HBO? That's a great question.

Who's two? The Wire. The Wire. The Wire. The Wire. The Wire. The That's a great question. Wire. Sopranos. The Wire. Game of Thrones. Wire. That's three right there. Everybody says I got to watch Deadwood.

I'm not going to lie to you. It's a short show, but everybody. Like in the top five? Like they have three of the top five. That's insane. Isn't that fucking insane? So here's the thing. So like HBO

established themselves as the place to be. They're very good at curating and having like a quality to everything they put out there. Mostly everything. Yeah.

Now, when Game of Thrones first came out, Netflix wasn't what it is now. And it's kind of like evolved through this binge watching era where like we have

everything at our fingertips to be the last of like, I actually thought about that as this episode was finishing tonight where i was like this is the last time like like i could hear my neighbor watching it like i could hear like my doorman was like yo did you see it like bro i heard someone going like something in the garbage like shoot across my heart and i was like you're loser why aren't you watching this episode when i when i remember the episode When Jon Snow was brought back to life Yeah I had paused my TV for a second

To go get food And forgot about it And then I'm watching the show And so I'm now on like A 30 second behind All of a sudden 30 seconds forward He gets raised from the dead

My entire building starts cheering I can hear it everywhere And then all of a sudden I'm like wait Why is everyone cheering And then I was like Oh fuck I'm on a delay And then he opens his eyes

And I was like Yeah I knew it But it was like Everyone was, fuck, I'm on delay. And then he opens his eyes and I was like, I knew it. But it was like everyone was watching. So these moments, right? Yeah. Like what these moments take, and this is kind of a – it's a very – it's sheer luck in a lot of ways, right? TV has transitioned into streaming and the difference with streaming is that we're all watching these shows at our own time, right?

So there's not this, hey, I'm going to wait a week and then I'll catch up on the next episode. I'll just watch the entire season in a weekend, right? Right, which affects how we digest it. And then how we communicate with each other. Like one of the great things about Game of Thrones or like Sopranos back in the day was that whole week, you had a discussion point with every stranger that you met.

Yes. Right? It was no different than- Free small talk. Free small talk, dude. And it was free small talk free small talk and it was so great because you didn't have to go where are you from

or what do you do those are stupid questions we just say so we can find some connection and you think John's on the throne honestly my thought is and everybody got the hot take

and we could really kind of coalesce over this one show and that was the power of TV and the power of film in a lot of ways like you saw it with Endgame Endgame came out

what was your theory how did you guys feel? And there was a moment where we all came together and we're still fractured because of streaming, even though it's way easier to take in this information, but we're still fractured. And now because streaming is the norm, you will never have another moment like this

in the history of content. I don't think so. I think you're right. It's possible. I don't think it's possible, but it's going to be so so hard you don't think they'll ever be a blowback because like right now it really is my theory is a quality here's my issue this is what I would do I in this very hard because for multiple reasons but I would say let's say you had a property that you really believed in and no network would do this but no network would just say okay make two seasons in a row but let's say you had a property that you really believed in and no network would do this, but no network would just say,

okay, make two seasons in a row. But let's say you really believe in this property. I would say make two seasons in a row, let them binge it. And then that third season, do a weekly, they're going to have to wait every week because you got to get them addicted.

That's breaking bad. Nobody watched breaking bad initially. Right. And then we stream that shit addicted. Now we'll wait. So that's, that's what I would do. I'd do first two seasons stream, third one you wait. There's talk of so Hulu started doing this, they do it with Handmaid's Tale

and all their shows where they release them weekly. But there's talk of Netflix doing that. They do it with some of their shows. They do it with Patriot Act. It works for that talk show format, but like I could see them toying with that. Because basically what happens is you consume it and then you just want more.

And all of the conversations revolved around seasonal theories instead of episodic theories. And it takes a lot of... And you don't control the real estate. When Game of Thrones is on, HBO controls the conversation for two whole months. For two straight months. And it's on SNL. Everything. It's ing SNL. Everything. It's ingrained in pop culture.

And so what happens is, like, the lifespan for, like, a seasonal show on Netflix is, like, a week. A weekend. Or a week, dude. Yeah, it's not. Stranger Things comes and goes like that, right? And it's big when it's, like, out for, like, a week. Pops, done.

Game of Thrones has been, like, the whole year. Look what happened with this very podcast. We have a podcast that was able to exponentially increase in following size during a season. That's insane. That's insane. How many people kept HBO's subscriptions just for one show? 100,000. Everybody who

has an HBO subscription. I mean, there's only two other things I care about watching on HBO. Pretty Little Lies. Oh my gosh. What is that? I cannot wait for that. Big Little Lies. This is a testament to HBO, right? Succession's good too.

I think that's one of the shows I get in later. But here's the thing. They're kind of doing what Netflix was trying to do. Netflix just has a bunch of shit. He looks like Red Skull. I can't stick his face either. I can't. I just look stick his face either. I can't. I just look at his face.

Barry's incredible. You guys should all be watching Barry. No, I know he's incredible, but he's also a skull. Here's the thing about HBO. Yeah. There's no collagen in his whole face. If you imagine a face without any collagen, that would be Barry. Like how Andrew looked like an hour ago.

You do look better. You do look better. You look better. I'm going to fall apart the second I walk out of here. Collagen's there. It's popping. We'll go. No, the thing about HBO is Game of Thrones was the unifier.

Everybody watched that. But everybody has their own different favorite HBO show. Yeah. And it's a testament to how good they are at curating content and developing content. Unbelievable. And they're still the go-to for me. If I see a commercial on HBO, I'm more likely to just check that out

because I know it's more likely than not to be good. You trust them. They have credibility with you. Netflix, I have no trust. All of their trailers before Game of Thrones. They said it, bro. Right at 9 o'clock, they were like, Game of Thrones will start in two minutes. I'm like, all right, here we go.

They're going to show us all the next... Who watched it on Apple? Who watched it on TV? I watched it on TV. So you saw the countdown? Yeah. Why're going to show us all the next, like, yeah. So who watched it on app? Who watched it on TV? I watched it on TV. So you saw the countdown? Yeah. Why am I a sucker for a countdown? I missed the countdown.

They had a countdown. It was like Game of Thrones. Two minutes and 15 seconds. And it was like, it counted down, I think from 10. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, fuck, let's go. Sucker for a countdown. Give us suspense. We want it.

Anyway, look, it's late. I i'm hung over i need to get some sleep thank you guys so much for coming and doing this um thank you zilla zilla let them know where they can see you get all your content blog zilla b-l-o-g-x-i-l-l-a follow me everywhere twitter instagram and and and also your shows or your like content how do people access your content because I'll just see these random interviews that you do but is that a weekly thing or is that just coming around

I have a YouTube channel Vlogzilla TV and YouTube you can find it on Global Grind I host a show on Twitter called Power Star Live I have a lot of gigs no you're cooking man and you have good interviews with, like, you know, I mean, this is like the highest profile actors in the business.

So it's very cool seeing. Thank you guys for gracing us with your presence. Thank you. Haney, Jack, Marco, Alex, Natalia. Thank you guys so much for being here and doing it. Doing this I appreciate Wheezy

Wheezy left us already But Thank you guys This has been Wester Bros We will continue this We're gonna find You know have some little internal talks About what the next thing

We should do Maybe some more movies But I definitely think it's blockbuster events Oh yeah It's another hour of Game of Thrones next week Wait what? The documentary It's a documentary

Oh we gotta. Yeah. We gotta get in there with that. I'm down. All right, we'll see you guys next week. Bye. All right.