Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Gary Owen SWEATS talking Shannon Sharpe Allegations, Living with LA’s Most Dangerous Gangster & More

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

YERRR – the guys linked up with comedian Gary Owen for a no-holds-barred convo on comedy, culture, and catching heat. Gary has wild stories from being on the road as Black America's favorite White comedian, to navigating divorce in the public eye and reacting to his viral clip about it. He talks about living with a notorious LA Gangster, being a stand up comedian while still in the US Military and working some of the OG greats like Eddie Murphy, Eminem and Floyd Mayweather. All that and more on this week’s episode of FLAGRANT. INDULGE. 00:00 Owen not Owens 1:30 Shedeur Sanders + Football talk 4:39 Diversity in Gary’s crowd 8:51 Not into YTs + Being the first 11:28 Brilliant idiots clip shown in court 20:31 Divorce Papers Serving Game + Cheating on the road 37:33 Shannon Sharpe has no supporters 46:30 Mayweather walking in mid show 58:10 Early days + wild tour stories 1:03:56 Gatekeepers & Quincy Jones 1:06:04 Horror Gigs, Underrated Killers + Headlining 1:10:48 Popping on tv + Honorable discharge 1:18:32 Drug dealer roommate, LA experience + Kobe Bryant 1:36:03 Freak Offs 1:39:52 “It was just a misunderstanding” 1:46:56 Being accepted in LA culture 1:53:34 Early touring, Jo Koy + Hardest follow 1:59:43 The culture, Black rooms + Latest special no race jokes 2:06:51 Sweating like crazy 2:08:23 Meeting Eddie Murphy on “Daddy Daycare” 2:14:16 How does Shannon Sharpe come back from this? 2:17:58 Ye’s new music + Meeting Kanye & Eminem early 2:22:50 Who was Kendrick talking about? 1st Celeb meeting 2:24:54 Kids being excited to meet + OJ is CHARMING 2:27:50 Evolving with your audience + Controversy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up everybody? Today we're joined by the most punctual black comedian in America. And he's here to break down Shannon Sharpe's future. He shares some insane stories of living with one of LA's most dangerous gangsters who is currently serving life in prison. He reveals a private conversation he had with OJ Simpson and how Charlemagne and I played a key role in his very public divorce. That's my goal for 2019. 16 years. How long you been faithful? Give it up right now for the legend himself, Gary Owen. Gary is a legendary comedian. Absolutely hilarious. There's no special. No S is available at MintComedy.com. Make sure you go check that out. It's Gary Owen.

No S. You hear that? We know that. There's one Owen. No s you hear that. Yeah, we know that Do Latinos do that too do they pluralize I don't know. Yeah, you don't know. You don't have any. It's not my audience. Yeah, I didn't know it was just my friends until Kanye said, Prince Williams ain't doing it right, if you ask me. And I was like, Prince William? Oh, wow.

How the fuck you get Williams? It's not a last name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Black people love that letter. Is it really Serena Williams? Is that what this whole time is about? I've never Googled that. I don't know. That's crazy. Anyway, you're a big football fan, right? What did you make of the Shador Sanders thing?

Do you care about college ball at all or are you just bangles? Yeah, I think we made a lot of nothing. It's not the first guy to drop. Five rounds is crazy though. There was really only like five or six teams looking for a quarterback in the beginning. It wasn't like 32 teams.

Like the Bengals was not going to get him. You know what I mean? The Ravens were not going to get him. So when they act like all 32 teams, I go, really, we all knew it was five or six teams. And it was the Giants, the Saints, the Titans, they went and got cam, wars, so they were out. Right. It literally every every round there was you were looking at 14. That's right. You

already got a quarterback. You're not even picking it up. I disagree. I think there's five or six teams not looking for a quarterback. The Bengals cuz they got Burrow, the Ravens cuz they got Lamar, the Bills cuz they got Josh Allen, couple other teams. If your quarterback isn't that tier, the Chiefs, Smallhomes, you're looking for a quarterback. If you're you're Dak if you're the Cowboys you got Dak Prescott. He's old He's coming off a season ending injury twice in the past three years draft a fucking quarterback most teams your quarterbacks not good So you might as well draft a guy take a chance in the third fourth round to see what happens

Well, I'm also thinking next year is supposed to be quarterback heavy. So do you want to bring him in? You know what let's hold off get this deline to be quarterback heavy. So do you want to bring him in? You're not going to win. But you know what? Let's hold off, get this delignment. And what's that thing? If you have two quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks? The Browns got five. But he's got a shot. He's in a perfect situation now. So explain. Yeah, because the expectations are low. Now it can only exceed expectations. And to build a new stadium, if he comes in balls, in balls are gonna be in a dome next year Oh, wow. I mean he's gonna be comfy. Yeah. Yeah, he's gonna be that's what he keeps saying. He's in the cold

No, he's not. Yeah, he's got no weather to worry about after next year. That's great. Yeah, it was weird it's like I don't understand if GM's are if NFL GM's are like the most open-minded people or they're racist because it's like if you beat your wife They expect that a black That's my point I watch it happen with a black quarterback every year a Justin field went to a bad situation He wasn't good, but Fields? Fields. He should have... They got done pushing everything.

That fell for no reason. Lamar Jackson fell out of the first round. It's always... I don't see this happen with white quarterbacks very often. What are you talking about? Tim Couch won the Heisman at Nebraska. They drafted him and said you gotta switch positions. Because he sucked. Somebody can say the same thing about Shandor. Sh years ago, Shadour can actually throw a ball. Tim Counts played it like a wish-sport off-base. Sports, sports, sports.

This is good, bro, this is good. I like this. Sports and races collide. Defeat it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm a very proponent of black quarterbacks. Okay. They come to see me. Yeah. You know what I mean? The white ones don't. I've been seeing some white people at your shows recently, bro.

Yeah, it's starting to happen. I've been seeing some fucking white people at your shows and gays. I saw that clip with the gays. Whoa, dude. I did this gay guy sat in the front. No, at the moment there was like five of them. Well, that's what I was getting to. There was a gay guy sat in the front. No, the moment there was like five of them. Well, that's what I was getting to. There was a gay guy sat in the front in Ontario

and we got it, it just, the stars aligned, it was perfect. He laughed at every joke, he was open to everything, he had like my boyfriend tastes better shirt or something like that. No way. Posted that, it did great on the internet and then I come to Houston and then there's a line of gay guys like yeah

We saw the video. I was like, oh sure this might be the audience I didn't even know So the tall time So they love S's You're gonna get my arm You're gonna be daring no arm That's gonna be fucking awesome That was good, that was good

That was good That was good That was good You're gonna be daring no arm. That's gonna be fucking awesome. There you go. It's gonna be special. That was good. Fucking cracker. So you got white people showing up to your shows, gays showing up to your shows. This is crazy. You're like 20 something years into,

how many years? 27? So 28? 28 years into your career. White people found you. They did. Harlem, gingerbread fashion. White people found you. They did. You started posts on YouTube, Instagram. White people find you.

The gays find you. Now, how does the black community feel about this? They've held you down for 28 years. I've got enough equity in the community. Then it's fine. They're good. So they're just, they don't feel like the white people are taking the thing that they started in.

No, no, no, no that well I gotta buy their tickets sooner Was only black right like people knew me from guy code and they knew it from brilliant idiots And so I do clubs around the country and like the owners would say which I'm sure they said to you they were like, you look the way you look and your audience does like what exactly is going on. They didn't understand it. And it was funny, like once I did Rogan and like white people started finding out about me, then white people buy tickets in November for a show in April. You're in line. Day early on that shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. MSG would have been sweating bullets. No. What is going on? The walk of two. The walk of two, trust me. Now I had a rumor, and I don't know if it's true, but maybe DL can, DL Hughley can confirm it one day, but when he got the Hughleys, it really crossed him over in the mainstream. And the rumor was-

That's why he got the neck tattoos. He was like, I gotta keep these white people away from me. The rumor was he would why he got the neck tattoos. He was like, I gotta keep these white people away from me. The rumor was he would tell the county clubs, this show don't sell in advance because they were all white people's bias so far in advance. He goes, like the late show Saturday, we're not putting that on sale yet.

That was the rumor I heard. That's cool. That's awesome. Yo, Gary, here's a good question, right? Both of us have done Uncle Shannon's podcast. Yeah. This is really why we wanted you to be on here. Outside of your special being out,

you having this prolific career, being one of the most successful touring comedians in American history, you've been doing this shit 28 years. Okay, a lot of people don't realize that. People have little bumps and blips, but 28 years is not a game. You go on Shannon's podcast. Almost immediately afterwards,

some little white girl sues him for a horrible thing. Did you introduce, did? I introduced you to a white girl? You know that. That's completely out of my will-how. You're trying to bring her back. I've said it numerous times. I ain't had white pussy since white pussy had me.

No way. Wait a minute, you haven't had a little... One, 1996. That's what I was born. Met her at TGI Fridays. That's crazy. Whoever you are, you ruined everything. It was on highway eight in San Diego.

I remember it. It was bad back then? It was bad? No, no, no, no, no. It must have been preference. It was bad. You never went back. I was on highway eight in San Diego. I remember it. It was bad back then, it was bad. No, no, no, no, no. It must have been preference. It was bad back then.

You never went back. No, she was a white girl that only liked black dudes. And she. And I picked up on her. And we both said, we're just gonna try. She tried to introduce you to what happened. We both made a consistent decision. You know what, bucket list, check.

It's like a gay and lesbian hooking up to sit. Yeah. Just to try. Think about it. Just to try this real quick. I didn't realize that didn't sound good. So wow, you never, and you never got... Were you just never into white girls or were they not into you or what was it?

A little bit of both. A little bit of both. It was like, even when I was in the Navy, we go out, I was stationed in San Diego, we go out to Pacific Beach. It's all beach bars, white people. There'd be one black girl. Like even when I was in the Navy, we go out, I was staying in San Diego, we go out to Pacific beach. It's all beach bars, white people. There'd be one black girl. And at the end of the night, my boys would be like, how does this happen every night?

I'd just be in the corner. I don't know why. I don't know. Just, they like me, I like them. So we just went with it. And have you been like the first white guy for a lot of black people? Oh, so many.

So many. If I hear this shit one more time. Have you been like the first white guy for a lot of so many? If I hear this shit one more time, so the myth ain't true Okay, what myth what myth Delegate. Delegate. Delegate. Delegate. Delegate. Delegate. Delegate. Delegate. Delegate. Delegate.

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There's certain names, like Rodney, sounds like he can put some shit down. Yeah. Yeah. Rodney, boy. It's got Rod in it. Rodney's the name that looks like you put it on the bedroom, but ain't gonna pan out in life. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, if you grew up with a Rodney's the name that looks like you put it down the bedroom but ain't gonna pan out life. You know what I mean?

If you grow up with a Rodney, at some point you will get this phone call as an adult, hey, you hear what happened to Rodney? It falls apart. It falls apart at 17, 18. Rodney's a beast. He was a beast of a fullback. But do you feel pressure as the great white hope? You know? You're representing all of us, bro. If you're in someone's first time with a white guy.

Like, there's probably a lot of black girls that fucked another white dude after you because you represented us well. So there's a lot of white dudes that got black pussy that might have never gotten it because of you. You're welcome. You're welcome, fellas. Yup. And then after that, they probably never did it again of you. You're welcome. You're welcome. Yep. And then after that they probably never did it again. They went back. So they went two times. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably happened. Yeah. But you don't care. No, it's funny. Like there's a couple.

Once you go away, you give it one more night. There's a couple. What's crazy, a couple Xs. Which creates a couple Xs from my past and then... Was this while you were married? Early in the marriage. Can you bring up that clip? No, no, no, we gotta bring up this clip. Give it to Ice Cone immediately. This one is the greatest clips in internet history. This one is the greatest clips in internet history.

You need to get this clip of. It's brilliant, idiots. I'm starting to sweat. You gotta beginning though, that's the thing you got to put the volume all the way You might be a black comic Pull this up there was copyrights enough that was yours Okay, let's go this is while Gary's happily married I'm gonna get you back to cheating bro this year. That's my goal 16 years Gary's happily married. I'm gonna get you back to cheating bro this year. That's my goal 16 years

Don't laugh don't laugh I'm sweating. I didn't know you guys were going to show that. Let's get some AC on in here. That came up in court, bro. No it didn't. No it didn't. This is your fault. No it didn't. You ruined his marriage. Yeah, all of a sudden. We settled, but it came up in court.

So I was like, See, Gary's been coming on brilliant dates throughout the entire destruction of his marriage. And it probably started in that moment where he couldn't swallow coffee while trying to pretend to be faithful. Oh my God. I was like, why is this coming to me?

Here's the funniest shit. Do you know? How big was the ice cube in your throat? So, but, you know, presenting this to me as a sports fan, randomly, I pressed follow to follow Max Crosby, the DM for the Raiders, right? Also, he sends me a voice memo on IG like, bruh, you're a legend, man.

I'm thinking about the dude, one of my specials, he goes, dude, the funniest shit ever is when they asked you if you was faithful. You started joking, bro. That was legendary. I'm like this. That's what you know. That's what the motherfucking news is

for. I mean, he was dying. Like, oh my God, bro. That's the funniest shit. I feel like Marlon Wayans. Marlon Wayans My sweats on every every podcast wait, how did your lawyer defend the clip? No, no, it wasn't my my ex she said she goes. I just saw a video I think I've never seen it before I guess when everything came out people started sending her shit They said you should have known I was like this

So then she brought it up okay so you were you know no that was crazy why did you just swallow what was happening Yeah, I was just gonna say yeah and I just came out right. Yeah. But the question was how many years you've been faithful. Yes or no? Yes or no? Yes. Don't commit a crime of garrison. Let's go back to my special.

I'm gonna have comedy. Lincoln back. Lincoln back. God damn that was funny. That was hilarious. All right, so you were back. Lincoln back. God damn that was funny. That was hilarious. Alright so you- It was so organic. Yeah.

You had a crazy- you had this crazy divorce. It's sad but it's over now. Everything's fine. Yeah yeah yeah that's funny. And uh- I'm still watching this. No it's- the KTSD is like real- It's silent.

It's over. It's getting out of hand. You know what? It's him. He just destroyed his mess. He's like Kobe game fun. Who's the guy? Who's the guy uh- G-Dag. He's like, Kobe, game five.

No, who's the guy? Who's the guy? Oh, what's the name of the guy? Jeep Thang. Jeep Thang, yeah. Oh, jeep thang. Jeep Thang. Oh, my god.

That's how I know. Yeah, I know that shit. That was the first song I ever heard. What the fuck is going on here? It's so good, dude. It actually feels good. It's kind of cool. Bro, I don't want to point this out.

This is how you know Gary's a black comic is that you still have lotion in your ear Oh Watch out for the fucking sand. Why are you looking at my son in 60 degrees? It ain't even hot. Hold on. I'm freezing. I don't like him. I'm sorry. I've been around this many white people in 40 years.

He feels like he's back in court. There's two of you. I can't stop laughing, bro. I didn't want to do this, pocket. Oh my god. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die.

I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going stop laughing. There's two of you. I can't stop laughing, bro. I didn't want to do this, pocket. Oh my god. Now he's a member of Dipset and shit.

Oh my god, dude. I'm dying here, guys. Also, guys, tour dates, June 19th and through 21st, from being in Salt Lake City at Wise Guys. All those dates and plenty more at AkashSingh.com. Now let's get back to the show. What's up, everybody? World's fastest dates, alright? I'm coming to Charleston, South Carolina, Atlanta, Georgia,

Strasbourg, PA, Hoboken, Indianapolis, Buffalo, and a bunch of other dates. You can get them at Mark Gagnon Live. I'm bringing you my debut tour, one hour of stand-up comedy, no more, no less. I'll see you guys at the show. Suck his dick. Yo, what happened to your hand, by the way?

Ah, yeah, fuckin'... Pickleball? No. Hell yeah, Garrett. Pickleball. Paddle! No, that's funnier. Yeah. Oh, yeah, fucking pickleball Paddle no, that's funny. Yeah, I don't know I played paddle I didn't whoop you I spanked you Different sport

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How? Well, it's basically, I love talking about this one, eh? Thanks for letting me know. So, take the ball just like tennis, like you're standing on a ping pong table. Paddle's like squash and tennis put together, so there's like... I don't know what squash is. It's basically there's walls on all sides, and you can use the walls. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know what squash is. Squash, yeah, yeah. So there's walls on all sides, so you can use the walls, and and there's like fence and you can hit the ball off the walls the balls Oh, that's in play paddle. Where's the wall that walls in the back that like clear glass. Oh, it's glass. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, the scoring is the same second scoring is the same. I've never played pickleball, so I wouldn't know He said that like it was cool But whatever is okay, no, I just scratched I just scratched it this is really like I wish there was something funnier about He said that like it was cool. But what happened to your head? Is it okay?

No, I just scratched it. I just scratched it. This is really like, I wish there was something funnier about this story, but it's not. Damn. Yeah. I know you have a wedding ring on again. Yeah, why would you get back on?

Like, why would you do that again? It was really tumultuous. It's a beautiful ring. Your divorce, that's the thing that I took. Trying to keep something off the internet. You're, I mean. I know, I know. It's a giant diamond.

You have a diamond, it's down here. You see that? Are you, how long have you been faithful to this girl? Let's shut up. Shut up, shut up. Four they once. Now look, watch how I drink in front of you. Watch how I drink in front of you.

Let's see, let's see. Why are you not answering? How long have you been faithful? This is different. It's a different relationship. Nice. That was a big reason for the original divorce though. Like we just stopped being intimate.

Yeah, we stopped being intimate. You guys stopped having sex. Oh, I think the last six years, three times. Whoa. Whoa. And then when? Only one of them stopped having sex. So when I was on your podcast, that was deep in the six.

That was deep in the six, got it. But now let's, now just out of, because you brought this up, I didn't bring this up. Was that when you started, you know, kind of seeking other holes? Extramarital relationships? Yeah. I mean, it had a big part of it.

Right, right, right, right. You know what I mean? You're not sleeping with your wife. Were you trying though, were you trying? No. That's true. You weren't even trying. But she wasn't either a big part of it. Right, right, right, right. You know what I mean? You're not sleeping with your wife. Were you trying though? Were you trying? No. That's true. You weren't even trying.

But she wasn't either though, neither of us. We went through COVID and just never touched. Oh no. It was like, we're watching Walking Dead and All American. That's brutal. That was COVID. Yeah, that's brutal. I was watching All American like it was a real team. Yeah.

I was like, yo, how's he gonna leave Beverly High for Compton? I did this with Friday lights. I remember that. Like I actually cared about if they were gonna leave. Yeah. I mean, that's really what it came down to. Yeah. So that was COVID.

This clip is from well before COVID. So I'm just curious on the timeline of all of it. Yeah. I've been, we've been, what, it's been five years since we separated? Gary, I feel like you're getting, you're getting back into the ice coffee moment. Like you're slowly walking ourselves back Gary, I feel like you're getting back into the ice coffee moment. Like, you're slowly walking ourselves back in. I feel like you are. And we don't even want to be there, but you are walking back into it. Because you have a beautiful new marriage right now. You have twins, right? Yeah. That's amazing. I'm sure that's exactly

what you wanted. I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what?

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I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? Some of the process server? Oh my god. The process server. Can you just break down that story a little bit? Okay. If you feel comfortable. No, no, no, it's in the past.

Yeah, it's all cleared. This, okay, go. So the process server. Can you break down a process server to the lights? When you file for divorce, you wanna, this happens a lot when you want, when you got houses in two different states. So we had a house in Ohio and a house in California.

So I filed for divorce in Ohio. Reason being, obviously financially, usually it's better in Ohio, but we were registered voters in Ohio. We pay taxes in Ohio. But the real reason is because if you divorce in California, you're fucked. That too. But we can't file in California because if it goes down to then they're going to come after us for tax evasion and voter fraud. So I didn't do it out of just California. I was like, no, we are registered voters.

Before we built the House of California, I asked my accountant, I go, I don't want to pay California taxes. How can I get a house in California? He goes, long as you spend less than half the year there, I'm on the road every year. So I'm on the road half the year. I was like, no problem. And you got to keep a residency somewhere else. Boom. Ohio. So even if you looked, it was funny. If you looked at our neighborhood in California, all the license plates was Nevada, Arizona, not of them were California. Everybody was doing the same shit. So that's really why I filed in Ohio. And then as soon as I tried to do the somewhat respectable thing,

I said, hey, I'm not happy, I want a divorce. And I said, so if there's a knock on the door, just so you know, it's probably a process. You said that to her. Yeah, yeah. But she was also trying to serve your ass. That's when she went and left. I was like, Oh, this ain't gonna be good. Because I heard the door knocking,

the guy was knocking and she wouldn't answer. I go, I think the door's not against you. It's probably Amazon. I go, fuck. Oh, she knows. Like she's, she's about to do something. And so she didn't answer the door. And then like two days later, the TMZ shit came out where she filed in LA against me. And now I was like, wait, we don't live in LA, we live in the Bay. And so that started off a like three month cat and mouse game of avoiding a process server. I went to my boy's house in West Virginia. I was off the

grid. I wasn't using credit cards, cash, like they're not gonna find me this dude's house Like it was damn near deliverance I mean it was it was you were hiding at the comedy clubs County come like I was I was staying at hotels. I'd be under Mohammed Shabazz The motor and bacon for breakfast I'll need that turkey shit. So I was at the Four Seasons in Baltimore for two weeks.

I never left my room. And then I would go to the shows and then they had, they picked me up like underneath the hotel. And it was like, we drive over and my opener was at the other this other hotel under my name so he was hoping to like miss Leo yeah you know and then uh let me see they almost got me in Colorado Springs so I had my normal opener and he's a bulldog but he didn't go with and I said, I got a bad feeling about next week, man, you're not with me.

And we weren't in Colorado Springs five minutes. I'm crossing the road, I'm getting to the club like two hours early, and this guy goes, hey, Gary! And I looked, and I saw him pulling the paper out of his back, and I, motherfucker, I turned into Ricky from Boys in the Hood. I'm saying this!

And he started chasing me, and he threw the paper at me. Because if it touches you, it's on, right? Yeah. He threw it. It didn't hit me, right? And one of my guys, I had two guys of me, and they both got fired after this weekend because I told them, I said, your one job is to not let him come. The dude walked right between them.

Just right between them. They looked and went, I don't want you to fight nobody, but stop them. And then the one guy started looking at the paper and I go, don't fucking touch that. Cause if they touch it, I could be served. So then I go in the dressing room and now I'm turning into Cuba Gooding. I'm swinging.

You know what money's gonna cost me? And it did. It was six figures, I'm gonna say how much, You know what? Shit! You know what money's gonna cost me? And it did. It was six figures, I'm gonna say how much, for jurisdiction. Just going to court and I had to hire a lawyer in California to fight it, fight jurisdiction. That was just, it was just a big waste of time. But ultimately, we got in Ohio. And we settled.

We got her. Oh yeah, we got her at a Panera Bread. I go, what happened? I go, We got her. No. That's what he said. Oh yeah, we got her at a Panera Bread. I go, what happened? I go, we got her. Yeah. We got her at a Panera Bread in Antioch, California. And it was crazy how it happened. I had hired a process server,

and I said 24-7 surveillance on the house, and they just said, she doesn't come out. She's just, she's not leaving. I go, I got a feeling this service company ain't got 24-7 on the house. Then they hit me with like a huge bill and I go, well, I'm not gonna pay until you get her served. I hired a process server out of Cincinnati.

Me and her flew into town and we had her within an hour. Wow. Like we flew from Cincinnati to Sacramento cause he said, don't fly into Oakland or San Fran cause if somebody sees you, they could tip her off here in town. We flew into Sacramento, got her in a car. We were driving through my neighborhood, and right before we get in my neighborhood,

there was a grocery store. I looked to my left. I swear to God, I saw our SUV. I was like, that looks like ours. And then we went to the house. She wasn't there. I still had the garage door opener. So the garage came up and the car was there.

I go, let's go back to the grocery store. It was her, she was pulling out. We followed her for about 15 miles on the highway and she pulled into a Panera Bread and she went through the drive-through and she got stuck and that's where we got her. The lady came out and I had to get on the other side and film it, it's a video, so she never saw me.

She was so focused on the driver's side, I'm right there, like filming the whole thing. And then I got back in the car. I was like And then she goes you gotta get out of here cuz you you can get still get served today So I had to immediately go to the Oakland Airport and I just walked in I'm literally walking down southwest had a flight I just was walking I would have been on spirit that day I was like, get me on it. I just was walking, I would've been on spirit that day. I was just walking down, anybody wanna fly it out?

Anybody wanna fly it out? I didn't care where we went, bro. I had to get out of California. So Southwest had a flight and just got on, dipped out. And now things are okay. What do you mean? Like between you two, is that, you're fully divorced? Oh yeah, that's been over two and a half, three years.

Talking at all? Not like that. No. No, no, no. But my son's talking to me. Yeah! I was hesitant to ask, cause I know that was hesitant. No, no, he's good now.

Oh good. He's been able to see the twins. No way. Yeah. Oh, okay, that makes me happy. Yeah, he's doing good. Was that stressful when you were following her on the highway?

Were you nervous? No, here's what's funny. So I'm, the processor was driving and she goes, you gotta get in the back seat. She might see you. It was, it was, it was freaking, it was like it was a bulldog. So now I'm in the back. I don't think she sees me. She goes, get down! So I don't know where we're at. I'm just looking up. She goes, she goes, I think she sees us. I think she sees us. I go, she ain't looking in the back for this Nissan road So that's when

We went there we came to stop she was alright I need you to get up get your phone out and then that's I didn't know where he was at I just got up and I was like over at Panera and boom you do land down no disguise or anything I would have done like a mustache or something, right? No, if she that was too much It's fun when you go through this for four months though, you're always looking like how is this gonna end? Come on, I was in West Virginia. I'd be walking around like how does this end? Do I get her and then it was funny cuz I'm in West Virginia for a couple weeks at one point, and I just was having like Stockholm syndrome.

I gotta do something. So I went through an Orange Theory, you know? In like Huntington, West Virginia, Orange Theory. I was in the best shape. I'll put it like that. Everybody there. I just remember the lady saw my ID, and then she, I'm trying to keep a low profile

I'm thinking I'm good at this orange hair the whole time. She goes, you know, we're down like this in California California like that John It's like Olivia Newton John mixed with John Travolta. You know what I mean? It's real rough. I'm sure she didn't have a boyfriend. Oh my God. You know? The way you describe it almost sounds fun.

I'll be honest. Like the process server? Yeah, like I kinda wanna do this with my girl. It's an adventure. It wasn't an adventure. It sounds like a Mr. Beast video. Yeah. You never get served first loses.

It is wild though. Like, and I will say like, it was very like a male bonding experience cause every guy that had been through a divorce reached out like in my business. Anthony Anderson reached out, Kevin reached out, Shaq reached out. I feel like I'm an angel on them,

but they had all been through messy divorces. And one of them said, I don't know if it was Shaq or Anthony. Cause you know, when you go through it, you're thinking I'm about to be broke, can you hear all these horror stories? I'm gonna be working the rest of my life with somebody else.

And then one of them said, they said, look, if you get a chance to settle, settle. Your talent won't allow you to go broke. And I was like, that was very profound. I was like, oh, then I was really ready to settle that point. But I also understand that feeling, like you've worked your ass off for almost 30 years,

you've made a bunch of money, and now you're faced with this dilemma. You're like, I might have to pay all this money to an ex-wife, and there goes my security blanket. Now I'm back hustling. Now I have to do this because I gotta pay bills, not because I wanna do it. That changes everything.

Comedy's what, 15 years before you start making money? 10, 12, whatever? It's like, you're broke before then. Also alimony, like imagine you're paying something off the top, you're paying 30%, whatever it is, before taxes. Oh yeah, oh we had some other stuff I didn't find out about till later too.

What? The IRS was coming, baby. Oh no. I had no idea. For her? For her. For, we're married, it's joint. I was like, oh, I didn no idea for her for her for or married. Oh joint I was like, oh, I didn't know this was happening

That's what scared me more than anything. Yeah, I was like, well, I work for the IRS and her Well women upset at you during this whole thing because it was public and I imagine a lot of them had went through similar things No, I think internet women but real-life. So at the shows they were sympathetic to you? Best thing I ever heard was I had gone like a week and a half, two weeks, I'm just reading the Internet, I'm holed up at that Four Seasons in Baltimore. Terrifying. My first show out the box, I'm on stage about 45 minutes in and lady in the back goes, I love you little cheating ass.

I was like, man, how hope I didn't hear that. That was the only time I was nervous walking on stage in probably about 15, 20 years. I didn't know how they were gonna react to me. Yeah, you thought the internet was real. So you were gonna walk on stage and you're gonna see the food and harass. Or you're gonna see the dude sympathetic

and the women are like, no. I was like, oh, the internet is not real. Why, why do you think that was? Just because you're literally by yourself and you don't know who to trust. Like you're getting, she's finding shit out. I'm like, how is she finding this out? There was some shit she found out

that only two or three people knew. You got a mole, bro. Yeah, I found all of them out. No, for real? No, one of my openers. Was telling her shit? Yeah. Get the a mole, bro. Yeah. I found all of them out. No, for real. One of my openers was telling her shit. Yeah. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. How did he, how did she convert him? I had already fired him. I was like, you fired him and then he was like, okay, after the divorce came out, then they got in touch and he started giving her like all this shit. Was she paying him to do it or he was just doing it off the strength of I Hate You?

Yeah. I don't know. Damn. I don't know. But you can find him at a coffee shop. You know what I mean? Like I still follow him just to see where his life is. How's that?

Damn. How's that Gregory's coffee at 3pm on a Sunday brunch show? Bitch. Well it's good to know you're not been bichipped. I love it. I love it. You should be. I said Gregory's coffee at 3pm on a Sunday brunch show. Bitch. Well it's good to know you're not in Bishop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. I love it.

I love it. You said in a special. You should like those posts. You should double tap. Dilling it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You said in a special that after it got out to TMZ that the DMs were crazy.

Yeah, yeah, that was a little nuts. Wait, girls were sliding in DMs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Once they knew that you were single? I, that was a little nuts. Wait, girls were sliding in DMs? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Once they knew that you were single? I don't know, I guess. There was a lot of people shooting their shot. And it was all over the place. It was ugly, pretty.

But did you have some fun once you got single? Now you're married, you're obviously a good, faithful husband. Nah, I was having fun when I was married. He was like. Yeah. Yeah. His throat's cleared out.

Hey, just to be honest, it was very compartmentalized. The road was the road and home was home. His throat's clearing out. It was very compartmentalized. The road was the road and home was home. Bro, it's so funny. Bro, the way that you would do it was just so funny, bro. I remember once we did a pod. You remember back in the day. I know where you're going with this.

This is when I found out Gary's not a white guy at all. Because we did this pod. He was telling me about us all, life was beautiful, it was inside jokes, we were doing it, but it was a one on one. Yeah, with that restaurant. Yeah, Gielas, Gielas. And it was awesome, and then I was like, you wanna go grab a drink?

He's like, yeah, sure, let's go grab a drink. I think, did you come as well? Yeah, I think we went to go grab a drink, and then Gary pulled up with a fine ass chick out of nowhere. But didn't even, DM him, didn't even mess with me. Yo, by the way, keep this low. So now I'm sitting down like, is this his assistant?

Like, who is this fine ass girl? She's like touching his shoulder. I'm like, Gary, what the fuck did you just, you made me a liar. Why are you going to make me fake? You can lie, but don't make me a liar. Here comes a sweat. Bro, like no heads up, nothing. Like I'm supposed to, like we all cheaters.

Come on, bro, I should have gave you a heads up. Not even a text message. Oh man. She's doing good now. That was his assistant. Ass assistant. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, she's like, when back is she?

She's doing the weather in Detroit. Bro. That's right. I remember Yeah, he's like one man Well, was there any party who's like I should probably just let Schultz know I'm a piece of shit You're at that place where you I've heard it I didn't believe it. You almost want to get caught. Just like, fucking let's just end this. Yeah. So you get a little reckless. You know, I think that was like 2019.

That was early. Yeah. So I want to date it. Well, the shit hit the fan in 2021 for me early. So I never believed it, but I look at my behavior and I was like, yeah, I wanted to get caught. I wasn't like PDA and I wasn't out there at parties bringing people, but I was like, I wasn't hiding it either. Yeah. So it was almost like, yeah. I'm also curious, is there like an OG comic thing? I feel like comics that were on the road in like 80s, 90s,

because it was before social media There was a little bit of a crazy a dual life that a lot of comics would do that You can't really do now. I only think it's just comics. I think it's entertainers. Yeah Jesus but specifically like Comedians are on the road every single weekend So you have a life on the road and then you got a life at home Yeah, and I think a lot of these guys before camera phones before the the internet, you know, for social media, you can kind of do whatever you wanted. Yeah. And there was girls in every city and you would go back to those cities and those girls were still

there. Yeah. So yeah, you can see how that would definitely happen, especially if like things at home weren't great. Yeah. Comedians, man, you know, you get on the road in the beginning and you're getting attention, you're tapped in socially, and you've never had that before. And you're just like, oh, I don't even have to talk to girls, they're talking to me. Yeah. You know?

So it's, why do you think that's not happening now? I think it's still probably going on. It's just easier to get caught up. Yeah. A girl posts on social media, she's with you, you know, she's tagging you in a picture, your girl's going, who the fuck is this bitch tagging you in a picture? I think also part of it, I think that's mainly it,

but a smaller part, a lot of times now comedians are making more money before they get on the road, whereas before that's all you had, so you had to only take you. Now you can afford to take your boys, so you're kind of just hanging out and you're not as inclined to go out and chase the night, where it's like, well, I'm with my homies,

so I don't have to, otherwise it's just you in some random fucking city in Toledo or wherever, and it's like, what am I gonna do? I'm just here alone? Yeah, facts. What do you think happens to Shannon, man? Have you spoken to him since? Are you guys close? And we're cool, but not.

It's just, it's so weird. They know he's coming back in September. Bro, I was shocked at how many people like immediately came out and shit on them and shit on it. Like, what do you think that's about? I'm trying to wrap my head around that. Because usually when there's an accusation from an only fans girl, it's like, oh, this is some fake shit. She just wants some money. But with Shannon, the immediate response from like big media figures was, Hey,

what the hell are you doing? You're fucked up. Why are you doing this? I don't listen. I'm the last person to comment on someone's personal life. Yeah. But also the best.

I've got experience here. Yeah. I don't want to be the hypocrite. No, you're not. You're not. Why do you think, how about the, why do you think he's not getting more support? That's what I'm wondering. Why?

Think about it. It's very similar to stand up. Like, why do the guys that sell the most tickets, people like they shit on like, as many people shit on Kevin. And if you know Kevin, he's like, literally one of the nicest guys on the planet. Yeah. And you guys just shit on him. You're going, why is that? That's because humans just, we have an issue with that. They're tough.

You kind of want that spot. So Shannon was was viewed as but then there's people like I saw Stephen A Smith kind of talking shit But and Stephen A Smith is at the top. Yeah, I don't know Did you see that? But I think he wants to be the top top. Oh, but he so he don't want even anybody second or third Yeah, that's that's hate That's hate in them because yeah, if there's there is a human instinct There's like jealousy and competitiveness right and sometimes it clouds our judgment and we see it happen a lot You know, like you said people hating on Kevin. He's literally like the nicest most supportive guy Yeah, but if you're above somebody and hating on someone and like being super critical of somebody below you when they're not even convicted

That feels like hate right there. Mm-hmm., why are you even worried about what's happening? But Shannon's pod was more successful, so maybe he's like looking at him as. But it's also clicks. It's also like you talk about Shannon, you're gonna like definitely clip it up, you're gonna get numbers. I wonder if that was the guy, especially in that genre,

like, you know, Stephen A wants to comment on, you know, I don't know, the Pope dying is not gonna get the numbers of Shannon Sharpe scandal part of it is he's angling for president and he's got a be critical. Yeah He's not getting the president. No, he wants to run. He wants to run until he wants to you want to run You got to morally be like, how could you? I also think that like Shannon's show was... You need a clean record to run nowadays. Yeah. But I also think like Shannon's show about design was like very clicky and like in a lot of ways toxic.

Like you- Shannon's? Yeah, Shannon's show. Like you did the show. I was crazy how the show was sports based, but the comedians get the biggest numbers. Oh yeah, cause the comedians out here talking shit. But like, like I even remember when I was doing it and I love Shannon, like the show was sports based, but the comedians get the biggest numbers. Oh yeah, because the comedians out here are talking shit. But like, I even remember when I was doing it, and I love Shannon, like the team was brilliant the way they put it together.

It was like really brilliant. There's this guy CJ is producing it, they're like, they're fucking smart. But like, there are moments where like they stop the interview and then CJ would hand them a card with questions that were going to be clickable videos. And they're like, here, just ask him these questions. Shannon's reading the question, he don't even know who he's talking about. You know what I mean?

Like, eh. So it's like, the show is designed to be clipped up and put on social media for those type of like, more let's call them. Messy. Messy, messy clips. So I wonder if like, you're promoting messiness when you're messy, people are less inclined to defend you.

Does that make sense? I know what you're saying. Kind of like Jerry Springer. He's like, yo, if Jerry did some fuck shit, people are like, yo, why are we gonna feel so bad for you? You made a lot of money on people's fuck shit. Jerry wrote the check to the hooker that bounced. Oh yeah, when he was like mayor of Cincinnati.

Yeah, Cincinnati, right? he was like mayor of Cincinnati Yeah, when I was growing up It was Jerry Springer everywhere when I grew up in Cincinnati Jerry Springer was our mayor and your and George Clooney's dad was Channel 9 news. He was a newscaster. Oh, I was like this this. Who knew? And then Carmen Electra was the big booty chick with the bad teeth. They used to dance at this place called Caddy's on Sunday, Teeny Night Club. Prince came in town, scooped it, she was gone. And then like six months later, she's in a Prince video and her teeth were fixed. I go, oh shit. Wow. Everybody knew her. She had the body. Do you have your real teeth?

These aren't the first two. Everybody got veneers now, huh? Well, this got knocked out in fifth grade. Oh no. Damn, what happened? Last day of school, extra recess. You were cheating on your girlfriend. No.

We ain't got enough equity in this relationship, brother. I'll tell you what, it didn't hold open the right. All the guys are gonna be serving chai, sir. Gonna be in that masha hour. They said, we got an extra recess later in school. I went hauling ass like, yeah! You know those doors, the gym doors? I didn't know it was locked.

No. Yeah, click! And I had bulk teeth. They were like this. I did a joke. I used to go to Catholic church and the priest never messed with me. And then I found out he was messing with all the little boys.

And I was like, they ain't never fucking with me once. I'm not letting that mouth hit my shit. But once he lost his teeth, then it was like, that was an open goal. I lost. I lost. I lost. I lost.

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2011. This is your first big. Showtime. Yeah, this is the one. This is the one you've been working on. I was like, all right, this should do well. So let me set this up a little bit. You're already percolating,

you're getting a lot of attention, you have the- Think like a man, we just got done filming it. Oh wow, it wasn't out yet. So think like a man, but it's not out yet. But even before that, you had some big appearances. Was it Def Comedy Champ? No, it was- Well, the Mike Ebb's life in the Nokia

kinda got a little buzz going again about it. But you had some real buzz. You had this opportunity to do a special with Showtime. And this is at the time where it was HBO or Showtime. This was also a time where Code Black came out of nowhere and did the Shaq all-star comedy jam, kind of being Kevin up. So Code Black. It was a time where Def Jam was gone. Comic view was gone. There was a lull. The internet wasn't

what it is now. So there was people were like, where do we find stand up? So the Shaq show comes in. The Shaq shit blew Kevin out the water basically, right? And even though Cedric was on it, D-Ray was on it, Ariesphere is on it, But Kev is the one that really benefit the most off that. Yeah. And so I was like, I remember I opened up for Mike in Houston. Epsi? Mike Eps in Houston. And he goes after the show, they go, hey, we're filming this thing Friday. This is like Saturday. Can you come in? And I go, what is it? And they go, we're doing this DVD. It's gonna be released and all the best spies and all that stuff. And I go, all right.

And I go, well, how much? And they was like, well, it's 2,500. That's it. There's no backend, there's no hotel, there's no flight. I was in Columbia, South Carolina. I canceled it. And all they said was, is Jeff Klang gonna be there? Cause he was running Co Black. He now, I think he runs Kevin's shit now. So I was like Jeff Klang gonna be there? Cause he was running Co Black.

He now, I think he runs Kevin's shit now. So I was like, is he gonna be there? And they go, if you promise me he watches my set. I'm in. I'm in. They go, we got you. I get there, they get there on a Friday. People don't know that there was 10 acts. They only aired like five of them.

Oh wow. Five got cut. And so we're backstage and everybody's like arguing over who's gonna go last. And I go, I'll go last. And I remember I looked, I go, I'll last. I knew. That's a great. I knew I had, I never did the black church joke yet,

which kind of like the black and white church. I go, this, I've been doing it at clubs, but it hasn't been aired. It was like bringing the house down. Like one of my strongest down like one of my strongest probably something in your pocket right there and the tiger which it just happened Where's wife? Yeah, I had a fucking strong tiger. I said if nothing else they only want me to do 10 15 minutes I think I'm doing 20 because I went last I knew I had like eight That was just gonna bring the roof down in the beginning and end So you could package it boom so I walk on stage and you're kind of refreshing because you're probably like you said probably

Only white guy there. Yeah, so they've been seeing black do black and then it's white who pops up and you're kind of waking back Up like oh shit It was it was nine comics doing dick pussy jokes It was nine comics doing dick pussy jokes. And then I came out like, hey church. And what set the whole set off was Morris Chestnut was in the front row. So I walked out, I see Morris Chestnut and I go, hey. I go, oh, literally I go, Morris.

And I go, hey, you guys are boys in a hood and think Ricky's gonna live? And I started to get so mad at you. Every time I watch it, I go, you die every time. Yeah. Just so I'm like, stop said I get so mad at you. I watch it. I go you die every time So resets the whole room live in the moment right there, right? Right, right, right. So Klanigan saw me and then they sent me to Japan first. He wasn't familiar, so the Shaq was doing the tour. So they was like, yo, they want to send you to Japan first to do a show.

And I go, so I went to Japan. I think it was me, Mark Curry, Lunel, a couple other people. Mark Curry, man. Dude, Mark Curry was so fucking funny. Oh, he's so good. And then I guess the word got back, no, he's solid. He's got it, because they only saw 20 minutes.

Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah. So they put me on the that Shaq tour of 2011 And then they said we're gonna give you a special we got to deal with showtime Okay on the Shaq tour who is who is your group that's going it was um DeRay Michael Blackson Corey Holcomb me and Capone Michael Blackson, Corey Holcomb, me and Capone. I'm a killer. Just killers. Absolutely.

Where are you going up in the show? Right for Corey. Corey closed it, D-Ray host it, and then Michael Blackson and Capone flip-flopped. Half the two, or one would go first, one would go second, and then I would go fourth and then Corey would close it. Yeah, strong. Great show. Yeah, strong. So that was the- Great show. Yeah. Yeah.

It was a solid show. And all of us kind of did our own thing after it ended. And then, so they gave me the special. So I'm in Vegas. I mean, we stopped filming Think Like A Man like two weeks before I'm filming this. It's at the Mandalay Bay. And I just remember I'm on stage, it's sold out,

but there's literally in the front, two empty rows. And I'm going, why aren't they filling this? This is weird. Keep in mind, this is a theater, so rows are 20, that's 10, 20 seats are just. Easy, easy, Mandalay Bay, the big theater there? Why is, this is so weird, why aren't they filling this in? I don't know, Floyd has called and said, I'm coming.

I don't care if there's a special. The Floyds is up, Floyd's the champ at this point Yeah, he runs. He runs Vegas. He's bringing a billion dollars every single time There's a fight on stage and I see I'm 30 40 minutes in yeah, and a commotion happens It's like there's like all these people just I thought a fight happened What's going on and then it starts coming towards me and I'm going what the fuck is happening? You know Floyd's a little guy Yeah, he's done with all these big body cards, and I'm like what's going on? And then it starts coming towards me, and I'm going what the fuck is happening? You know Floyd's a little guy. He's had all these big body cards,

and I'm going what's going on? And then I see Floyd, oh Floyd! And then I just start talking to him at his entourage for about 15 minutes, and then they kept like five of it in the special. That's great. That's all he needed, that's great. But just completely in the middle of it,

I'm like all right, but it worked out. A lot of people who haven't taped something don't know, like when you're taping anything, it could be a 10 minute set, it could be an hour set, like you're kind of in like performance mode, right? It's hard to stay- You're on autopilot. You're on autopilot, right? Because you're like, I need to make sure

I get these jokes right, and every time you do a joke, it doesn't go as good as it did in fucking Portland, you're like thinking about it and editing in your head. And then 20 people walk in 40 minutes into your first. 40 people walk in. To stay in the moment is one very ballsy, but like that's a really, a lot of people just ignore it and try to muscle through.

Like that's a courageous thing to do. But you do it because you got chops. That's the thing, like you've done a lot of shows where people are walking in in the middle. You know what I mean? If you go in that Shaq tour, if you went up first or second slot, people are still walking in.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, true, true, true. You know what I'm saying? And that's the first time I met Floyd. That's the crazy part. Oh, I thought that he told you he was coming. No, they told me he's coming, but I didn't tell them he's gonna come in the middle of my set.

The promoters are gonna be like, yo, we got to call Floyd's coming. Yeah. Oh, hey, there it is Look at all the people. Did you see it? I mean, yeah, that's like a nightmare scenario They're all the front it's it is a nightmare, but it's also an amazing look. Oh, yeah. To have Floyd Mayweather coach on you during your special. If you're watching this at home, and you're like, oh, who's this Gary Owens guy, you know?

And then all of a sudden they see Floyd walk in and sit down, and you're like, oh shit. Why'd you throw the S on there? Because that's what they're thinking. It's Gary Owens. That's what they're thinking. That's what they're thinking. But then just have Floyd sit down and start laughing.

Like, I mean, that's amazing. Most people don't know. Right on the other side, Winky Wright was there. Oh, wow. So Winky was there, then Floyd came in too. In the moment, did you know, oh, this is going to play amazing? Or were you a little... No. He's just kind of going with it.

Okay. He's just kind of winging it. Were you roasting him at all? I just told him about the Grand Rapids. I said, I just appreciate bringing all the Grand Rapids. You know what I mean? Oh, my God. I said, if you and Grand Rapids. I said I'd appreciate bringing all the Grand Rapids If you and Graham rabbit's right now commit some crimes Does he have a good sense of humor? Yeah, he's a good thing about Floyd. I'll tell you this

He if I'm in Vegas and he's in town. There's no phone calls made he always comes and he buys tickets as far as I know. I don't get the phone call saying, Floyd's coming, can you leave tickets? Wow. Wow, that's fair. He's there, or I know for a fact, when I did SLS he bought them, because I was on a door deal, and we put the show together on like three weeks notice,

and it was not sold out. Yeah. So when I got the ticket counts, I go, we had a hell of a walk up. And then I was like, oh, there's Floyd again coming through the club. Did he talk to you after this? Yeah, he came backstage.

That's where we met. And what was the vibe like backstage? He was real quiet, he was real quiet. Yeah, can I get a picture? That was pretty much it. Wow. But he's been cool ever since. So he turns it up.

He like turns it on when the camera's on, in other words. Well, then we shot Think Like A too, the next year in Vegas. And that's where I got to know him. Because he asked me to come by, they were going to go out one night and he asked me to come by the house. Like, all right, me being the white guy, I literally showed up at the time he told me to come and nobody there, bro. Like it's me and me and two of my boys like, why are we here so early? Floyd was getting a massage. He was on the massage table.

And he's like, it was just how you think of Floyd Mayweather for a reason. The girls just massage his shit. And he's like, what's up G? I go, hey, how you doing? He says, it's midwest shit right here. Midwest shit. And he's just still talking. I'm like this.

What is happening right now? Oh my God. Then he got a haircut. I think it's a haircut. And the girl's kind of like, we're way too early. Yeah. Yeah.

What is? But here's the best part. This is a pretty woman moment. We're there and then it gets crowded. Then an hour later, it's crowded. An hour later it's crowded and then everybody's going to the palms to go to some nightclub and Floyd doesn't drink. So people think he's out partying. He might be out but he's partying. It's all water. And I'm not exaggerating. Ten limos pull up and people just start getting in the limos and we're

all going to this nightclub and we get in limo with like, me and my boys just having a limo with like three girls that just jumped in and barely spoke English. So now we're sitting there and they're not talking to us. They're not trying to entertain us. And we're trying to be nice. And then nothing. We get to the party, we can't get in. It's too crowded.

One, it was like a Saturday. It was Vegas already. And then Floyd's come with 150 people. We're not getting it, even though we're with Floyd. I said, let's go another spot. So the girls, we looked at it and said, you want to go with us? And they're like, no. And it was very apparent, no, we're not. We're going to fight our way and we will eventually get to Floyd tonight. Monday, we're on set of Think Like a Man 2. get deployed tonight. Monday we're on set of Think Like a Man 2. They're extras. In the movie we had a pool scene and they hired these pretty girls to be around the pool. I looked at them and I go, oh shit! studio Where I can sweat in private Have fun in this 110 degree weather motherfucker I want to know early tour stories like yeah the first 10 years that you're in the game

like For like are you are you? How early are you ever with like some of the the goats when I started in San Diego, I was doing two different circuits. I had the black circuit. Yeah. And then I had the mainstream circuit. The mainstream was Bobby Lee. Yeah. Darren Carter. I remember Bobby Lee. Yeah, me and Bobby Lee used to sit at Denny's and he'd always had the notebook and he's writing, writing, writing. I

don't believe that. He was the first one out of the open mic crew at the Comedy Store that got the break so to speak. Pauly came, Pauly Shore came down, his mom was with the Mitzi and all of a sudden Bobby went to Vegas with Pauly. He came back down and we're waiting. Like, what's it like, what's it like? And then Bobby goes, he tells this whole fucking lie I found out 20 years later. He goes, oh my God, dude, I was with Pauly, and afterwards, Missy says she's gonna make me

a paid regular at the comedy store. He goes, and then I met these two girls, and we went back to my room, and they handcuffed me to my bed, and they robbed me. And he goes, I go, what? So he said they tied him up and he was naked and the clean ladies had to let him go. The clean ladies came in the next day and got him.

I believe this story for 20 years. Then I went on to Tiger Belly and told him it was a lie. I go, you motherfucker. He had us at Denny's like, I put the grand slam down. So the girls, they just fuck you like that. They just fucking like that. That's what I was thinking like, oh my God, I got to really, I got to get on the road. And then, but on the black side, it was Nick Cannon. He was doing all the rounds because Nick was in a rap group called the bomb squad. Okay, and so

Put a lot of people put a lot of people on yeah That's why we would make these jokes. He wouldn't care. That's why I feel okay doing it. We need to turn off the AC or something. It's freezing. Go on. So Nick was in a rap group, and I remember Magic Johnson had the talk show

called The Magic Hour. And Magic's people saw me at the comedy store one night, and he went back to Magic and said, I just saw the funniest white guy on the planet. Magic Johnson said that. His guy said that. So Magic came to see me the next week. Fat Tuesday, people don't really,

Fat Tuesday put so many people on back in there, Tuesday night, Guy Torrey's spot. Like people were getting discovered out of place. I bombed my dick off in that room, dog, holy. Wait, well I just loved that room. Oh dog, this happened to me so many times early on. I'm like halfway through bombing, and then one guy just comes up there, runs the show,

walks all stage, he just goes, give me the mic, and I was like, hey, don't get it. That's why I got more shit out of that one. This is L.A., it was, what club? Coney's store. The main room, he had the, it was called Fat Tuesday, I thought it was P.H.A.T.

That was tripping on Tuesday. So it was tripping on Tuesday when I did it. No, they changed it. And then it went back to Fat Tuesday. It originally was Fat Tuesdays. It originally was Fat Tuesdays. That's where Jamie Foxx saw me and got me auditioned for Held Up. I was there and Aries might say that didn't happen. I was there.

I saw the set that got Aries Mad TV. Because they were there. The Foxx people was there. The execs. So I saw Leslie Jones go up when Chris Rock saw her and ripped that night. I was like, I'm you look back like I was there for some like historical moments. The set that Aries gets mad TV.

Yeah. What I mean, I remember the joke that killed it. He had a Michael Jackson joke where he was in a wheelchair. He said, what if Michael Jackson in a wheelchair and he does the whole he imitates him so good and he like and like, and he flips over, act like he can turn the chair this way and this way, but he's still performing. I'm fucking up the joke. Sure, sure, sure. But that's the joke that he closed with every night.

Every time he did a show, he was going to close with that. And he killed. He's wildly talented. Like, yeah, he's wildly talented. Yeah, his imitations are unbelievable. So Nick, I'm literally, I'm doing, I got, I'm at my apartment and I'm dubbing VHS tapes, like to try to give the Magic's people, because I got nothing.

I don't have any, I don't have any clips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not on TV yet. Yeah, yeah. So it's like bad audio, bad video, and I'm trying to clip this five minute set to give the Magic's people. And Nick shows up with his manager at the time, his name was Samir Toma, I remember Sam.

And then Nick goes, what are you doing? I go, Magic Johnson saw me, bro. I said, I might get it on his talk show and I'm all fired up. And Nick goes, man, I should do stand up. And I go, you should. And he should. And then the next week we had this place called Mr. O's on Wednesday night was a big urban black comedy night. And Nick went up there and did nothing but comic view jokes. And I go, Nick, you can't do that. That's somebody else's joke. Yeah, I saw last night it was funny. He just didn't know. It wasn't like he was out and out stealing.

He did not know. I said, no, no, you got to do your own jokes. And then less than a year later, we went up to Oakland for the Bay Area Black Comedy Competition and Nick had like a solid six and that's all you got. And he was clean. He was young, good looking dude, and that's when all that people saw him. And he got the semifinals or the finals.

And then he kind of was doing the warm up. This is a time before the internet, like now the internet is used to search for talent. You almost kind of wait for a comic to prove themselves on the internet. But before you had to see somebody live. So there was all this tension when somebody special was in the room because your whole career could change in seven minutes. Yeah, at the mercy of somebody else.

Simple as that. Somebody likes you and like, I'm gonna go with him. But so the anxiety, just imagine that. It's already nerve wracking, I'm sure, when you go up at a big club on a big night when there's a full crowd, you wanna do well. But imagine you go up at like a big club on a big night, when there's a full crowd, you want to do well. Imagine you go up and you know that, shit, Damon Wayans is in the,

or Keenan Ivory's in the audience. You're like, that's it, my career is dead. I'm in movies now, I'm in TV shows. They'll develop something around me. Yeah, it's crazy how it happens. I had a TV deal with Quincy Jones, and it was like the best six months of just sitting back, listening to like a historian tell stories about Frank Sinatra, Orson Welles, Billy Holiday.

He was there and he's not lying. We had a TV show that didn't go anywhere. I didn't go, oh my God, I remember we went into ABC office and we're waiting in the lobby to go in and pitch this TV show. And Quincy started talking about strip clubs in France. And that was the conversation. He goes, yeah.

And then usually when they say, all right, you guys wanna come back? Usually most people stop the conversation and now we're in the pitch a TV show mode. No, no, no, no, no. Quincy still telling me the story as we walk into the room, both execs at ABC are gay as shit. And I'm going, and

then Quincy literally he's, he's ignoring him. He goes, yeah, they like the jazz, the girls strip the jazz. And then he goes, he goes, you guys ever been to strip clubs in France? They were like, no. Oh, I love this. And then he was like, they were like, I got love. We're not, we're not getting this show. We pitched that show to this nothing. Usually when execs say no, it's a day or so. I wasn't at my car. My manager already calling, yeah, they're passing. I go, big shock.

That means we left and they go, we're done. I knew it was over with the minute he said you're gonna show up on France. What year is this? 2000. 2000. So you're like what?. What year is this? 2000. 2000, so you're like what? What about like horror gigs?

Did you, cause you got success quite early. Did you ever go through that stretch where you're doing the $1500 weekend? Oh yeah, yeah. First road gig I ever got was the comic strip in El Paso. And they paid me 500 bucks and I had to get there and it was like Wednesday through Sunday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I was in the Navy. So I drove from San Diego Paso. It was

the easiest drive ever because I was like, Oh shit. Cause that's this a time you had to mail your headshot in, send a VHS tape, fax over a fake resume that I made up. I had nothing. I remember I said I opened up for Jim Carrey for a cancer benefit, complete lie. I mean everything was a lie, dude. I was like, you know what I mean? And then, so I get to El Paso and it said, they got a comic condo thing

where all three comics are in the same thing. I took the big bedroom, not knowing, the headliner's coming, dude, that headliner's coming, I go, bruh, get out. I was like, oh shit, sorry. So I'm going to the other room. I didn't have a lot of money. So this is how I survived. I went to the grocery store. I got, um, Coco puffs and a gallon of milk. That's breakfast for the week. Arby's had the $2 beef and cheddars. So that was lunch.

And then you eat at the comic club and you bring it back for your late night food. I was like, dude, I was $20 in food. I came back to the good. I remember thinking, Oh my God, how did these comic clubs make money? I remember when I, my first comedy club headline gig after Comic View, I remember my, my agent's office. He goes, yeah, we got some club in Dayton, they're paying you $4,000. I go, holy shit, man. I was like, this club might shut down.

How do you pay me to go in and have business there? That's crazy. There was four fours, $4,000 and 400 for travel. I was like, what? thousand dollars and four hundred for travel. I was like what? Yeah, four hours for a flight. Yeah, holy shit, bro I don't know what about any guys that you open for that like to this day You're like I've never seen anybody kill like that or any guy you've been on the road and they don't have to be big famous Guys, they can be but the guy

When I first started in LA was open was open micing, was Pablo Francisco. Just destroyed. No, I want to follow that dude. I'd seen him do the Latino night, the white night, the black night, and he was the only guy that killed in all of them. Impressions, right? The movie voice. The movie voice to Arnold Schwarzenegger at the time where he was like, little tortilla

boy. And it was the same bit and I still waited to see it. Yeah. Yeah, it was like, oh my god impressions have that longevity It's it's like a in a way It's almost like you're watching magic, right? Because it's like and that is sometimes the downfall is like if you're really good at impressions like you don't actually have a joke We're kind of just laughing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You sound like that famous guy You look like that but the guys that can do it with a joke. That's what made Eddie so impressive, he could do everything.

Eddie could write the bit that even if he didn't do the impression, you'd still laugh at. Eddie's what's so amazing about Eddie, he was like 21. He was a kid. He was a kid. Yeah. In the one special, we end it with the burger, the burger joke, how his mom made the burger

with the peppers in it. I go, that's your closer? Look back on that, you're like, usually the closer is like kind of raw, rugged something. My mom's putting peppers in a burger. I'm like, what the fuck was that? That'd have been my first joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, so you're going through this, you're getting success, you're starting to make some money, and then you're headlining on your own. You're not really opening for other guys. Like it was pretty quick. I didn't headline. I didn't, I didn't have the traditional feature for people because I was in the Navy when I started. I was on BET and in the Navy at the same time. Wow. So how it happened was I was starting to stand up. I knew that's what I wanted to do. I was going up like six days a week.

That anywhere that, I mean, I was made, there was a karaoke night at a place called El Torito. I would go up and not sing. I do jokes. It got to the point where people knew to get quiet when I walked up, because they go, oh, this is the funny dude. He about to tell some jokes. I was like, the first couple of weeks, it was rough.

Cause they were paying attention, but I just want to get on stage and I didn't know where to go So I go wait, they got a microphone. They got a little stage I'll just start telling jokes and then it got to the point where literally the The host of karaoke. Ah, yeah, you know, he's here. It was like that type of vibe and karaoke is very the same people every week Yeah, so it really helped me because I had to kind of do new shit every week, too So it was it was it was kind of a dope thing. But I'm driving in my truck and they say, we're looking for the funniest black comedian in San Diego.

So I called in and I didn't say I was black or I wasn't black. I just, I put a little bass in my voice. What's up, this the Countess? Yeah, yeah, I wanna enter that shit. And then they was like, what's up, this the content? Yeah, yeah, I wanna enter that shit. And then he was like, what's your name, Gary? So I entered at one and then, that's actually where I met Nick, because he rapped on the show,

his manager got him on there. And that first place got you an audition for Comic View. So I auditioned for Comic View, I got on, I'm still in the Navy. So they used to film the whole season in a week. It was Monday through Friday. They either did three or five episodes a day. So, and it was a contest, you just kept moving on.

So I just kept moving on every day. I took a week's leave. I won my rounds, like, so I got an hour special. So I had been on standup less than a year and I had this hour special. I wish they would replay it because I know it's gotta be brutal because you only had to do 44 minutes with commercials.

And it was so slow and paced because I didn't have 44. You had 24 minutes. I went until every last, ah! And then I started to go, I had to be silent. I was so paced, ah-ha! And then I started to get up. I had to be silent. I was so paced, like, yeah. That clock just was moving so slow.

I was like, oh shit, I got two jokes, I've got 28. So they called me, they called me like six months later, and Curtis Gatson was the head of BET at the time, he goes, he's like, Curtis Gatson wants to meet with you. I drive back up to LA, and he goes, yeah, we of BET at the time. He goes, he's like, Curtis Gatson wants to meet with you. I drive back up to LA and he goes, yeah, we want to make you the host. And I went, what?

So they want me to make me the host of Conq. I'm still in the Navy. Wow. So BET doesn't know I'm in the Navy. Obviously the Navy doesn't know I'm doing standup. But it was a funny thing because I don't have cable. And so I don't know I'm airing. So I'm on the base waving cars on the base

and a brother would be like, what the fuck, what you on TV that time? Yeah, yeah, have a good day man. All right. So I'm like, wait a minute, am I on fucking TV? And then I would go out to like Burger King or something. And so I'm like, what you on TV? I had no idea I was airing.

And I was like, I'm getting stopped. I was like, why have you not fucking stopped me? What was it like back in the day when there were fewer channels and you had something pop on TV? Do you make me sound Asian as fuck right now? No, no, I'm not trying to make you sound old because I remember like guy code days

when there were just fewer things to watch. So when people were watching a show, you felt it on the street. Yeah, for real. Like I remember just walking around certain areas, especially like tourist areas in New York City. If you're in Times Square, it was like, it felt like every person within an age demographic

had watched the show. With the internet now, it's different. Like with the internet, there's a little echo chamber. So you'll be walking down the street, somebody recognizes you, somebody's like, I don't even know who the fuck that is. It's divided. But back in the day, it was like, if you watched comedy and you watched BET,

you watched Comic View. So you didn't miss it. So you would instantly feel it. Does that make sense? Yeah, I went from like, never be on the road to being asked to headline immediately. So I didn't have the grind of featuring for somebody. Like I was kind of just thrust into it.

That was kind of similar to my journey. Like I didn't have a long time where I was going and featuring for people. I mean, that's the beauty of standup. You ask a hundred comics, everybody's gonna give a hundred different stories. I just, I had to get out of the Navy. I couldn't go on the road.

Did any of them know, Did any of them know? Like any of your close Navy friends know that you were doing standup like on the side? Yeah, I mean, that's how I got to do all the quote unquote black rooms. I'd be telling people like on the base, like on the standup and the black guys would be like, you can go here or you can go here.

Ah. A lot of white Congress didn't want to go there because it wasn't a bad area. But I was like, I just want to tell jokes. Did it cause any tension once it premiered and once it aired and everyone knew? DET? Like with the Navy, like were they like, With your superiors tell jokes. Did it cause any tension once it premiered and once it aired and everyone knew? VT? Oh, like with the Navy, like where they like-

Where your superiors or whatever. You can't be doing TV. Dude, I had, good thing I had black chiefs, black bosses that were watching it. These motherfuckers looked out. They loved it. Yo, when I tell you my, the last three months, I wasn't showing up for work. All they said was you got was you show up Monday morning, don't get nothing pierced, keep your hair cut.

And what they did is they put me on a part of the base where I was supposed to be like grading papers, basically. It was a guy they were running, I don't know, it was some guys that weren't, I was a cop in the Navy, right? So it was like guys that were trying to be temporary police officers for their cop. No, Andrew, I let everybody go. Dude, when I say let everybody go, everybody.

This is why we lost the war on terror. I would have been the peacemaker. But they had me like in some part of the base that I only had to report this one old dude and he knew what the deal was. So I'd see him Monday morning. I'd check in and I'm like, I'm out. And that was the last three months. Wow. And then I remember the paperwork came in like, you're out. This is a good cause, but the government subsidized a good one. I'm down with that. But then the paperwork came in that kind of hurt a little bit because I was still getting paid.

So then the paperwork came in like, yeah, you're out. I'm going, fuck. Like you got dishonorably discharged? Not dishonorably, I was honorable. It was just my time. I was like, fuck. I remember it was in January. I was like, damn, I ain't got that check coming in every two weeks.

So now I'm in LA trying to make it. You know what I mean? But I wasn't broke or anything. That's why I don't have the whole, I didn't know where my next meal was coming from. I went to LA even. I wasn't in the hole, and I didn't have any money. So when you're single with no kids, you don't need a lot.

You know what I mean? Even my first roommate in LA, we had no living room furniture, so if you was to break into our apartment, you'd have been like, nobody lives here. I had my bedroom, he had his bedroom. I ain't buying a couch for you. I'm not buying a TV for you.

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Okay? This is, to me, an absolute no-brainer. The Knicks dominating. These are easy games. We like to keep it close to our ratings because this is a city that understands entertainment. It's very important to us. You are welcome. Everybody's like, oh, the Knicks, this call, that call.

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Who knows? You can bet on it and you'll do it over there at stake Anyway, let's get back to the show crazy part of my first year in la I end up I end up moving in with like this big big drug dealer And I didn't know He was like the dude In la and he had a roommate He had a he had a fucking mansion in Bel Air.

He wanted me to house sit. He needed a white guy. I found out later to be the face of the neighborhood because we had these parties and the cops would get called and I'm the one going up to the end of the driveway because you had to walk to get to the house. You couldn't see it from the street. So if cops show up, he'd be like,

yo, G, man, they at the gate. You had no idea it from the street. So cops show up. He knows about your G. They have the gate. You had no idea. So you don't. I'm from Ohio. I get to LA. I'm I'm you know, I'm showing up now like at these LA parties and I'm seeing houses I've never been in before. So I don't know in LA you know, everything's kind of fake it till you make it. Okay, okay. So I don't know in LA, you know, everything's kind of fake it till you make it type deal. Okay. Okay. So I don't know. I really was naive. I thought he threw parties. I thought he was a bodyguard and I don't know what anything runs. I don't know what these houses run for. So I'm kind of clueless. You were a terrible cop.

He's not putting it together. So he literally, I don't know, you know, it's still my dude. He's in prison now. I still go visit him Really still my guy. Yeah life. He's I don't think he's getting out I hope he does but I'm not gonna say what he did. Yeah, cuz I want him. I think you know, yes, but That's still that's still my dog man, but I just remember We came I came home one time and I had never seen that many drugs in a house. I walked in and there was just like the weed, the blocks was up to my calf and it filled, it would fill this whole studio.

And I go on and then like five SUVs pulled down the driveway, these Suburbans and these brothers look like they was off the grid. They didn't smile, they didn't say hello, they opened the door and just started loading the shit up in the back of these SUVs. And I had one of my buddies, one of my buddies was there, and he goes, is this weed? And my boy goes, yeah, what do you mean?

He goes, you want some? He was like, I can have some of this? He goes, if you want some, take some. He went like this, tried to take a pinch. And then my mother goes, motherfucker, you won't get it, get it. Like, and I saw the glow from the last dragon. Come on, he goes, oh my God.

So then he does the dumb shit. He goes, yo, I got some boys, man. I got some boys, I'll buy some weed. He goes, give them my number. And then it ended up going bad. Cause he's like, yo, your boys are bullshitting, man. Don't send them by my way if they bullshitting. He like snapped on my boy.

Cause he tried to be like, if you guys are gonna buy some shit, this is like another level. Like they were running the shit like, I don't wanna give everything away, but they were running through different states. Was there any concern during that time that you're like, okay, I have a promising career? That's why I got out. That's why I told him I gotta move out.

And how did that combo go? I literally told him, I said, bro, I'm a comedian. I can't be around this shit. What do you say? I get it. And then shout out to my ex-wife. She calmed him down because there was a point he got a little angry. Wait, what happened? I'm gonna leave that off the air. Okay, fair enough. But he got a little angry and she had to go have lunch with him and calm him down. Be like, you know, Gary loves you.

Like he would never do anything to you. So he was worried that that like you could potentially snitch and then he would be fucked up. I don't know. I would be worried. I don't know. Trust one white guy So I just started headlining and we're still living together and I come home and there's two girls in my room, right?

He had like a four bedroom in the house, and then there's two girls in my room, and I'm going, I walked in, I go, what the fuck? So I go to his room, not, you know, there's two girls in my room, I go, oh shit, I thought you was getting back tomorrow. He's my bad brother, I get him out. So the girl's like, oh, we're so sorry.

You get out of the room. And he tells me, yeah, these are some of my girls from Vegas, man. I was looking out for them this week. They were like drop dead gorgeous. They looked like they were made in a lab, right? They were hookers that he brought to LA to, they were like going to the palisades and everything.

And he's the one that would drive them, sit outside, make sure they got their money, make sure he's getting broke off a little bit too, right? Pimping is what we would do. It could be. Yeah, I know, I knew you were going with that. Why do you have words into it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Pimping comes with a visual. I was going with that. This was not the visual you think. He was probably giving him a 50% chance. They come out of my rubber. They leave my rubber. The guys do life in prison. He was probably really earnest with those girls. They come out of my room. They leave my room. The guys do a live in prison. It was probably really earnest with those girls.

Yeah. You guys deserved it. They leave my room and I'm going, first I was pissed. I go, no, fuck this, that's my room, but I can't be pissed because I'm scared of my roommate. I can't be mad. So it's this internal, shit. And then I look through my room, I go,

our room's really fucking clean. And I was like, they washed my clothes. I was like, everything, I was at my room and I go, our room's really fucking clean. And I was like, they washed my clothes. I was like, everything, I open my drawer, I go, this shit is folded beautifully. To be in my room, it never smelled that good. Like all my shit was pressed, I was like this, oh, that wasn't a bad deal then being in my room. Then he goes, yo, G, I mean, they here.

Like if I wanna do something, I I like, no, I'm good. Like if they would if they would call me when I was on that podcast, you and Charlamagne went down, I was too like green freaking out. Yeah. No, no, I'm good. Yeah. I'd never seen a guy pull pussy like him, though. In my life, we meet the drug kingpin and pimp is the greatest thing in girls? Ever.

What the hell? No, no, I mean exactly. What in the world do we live in? Hold on, hold on. This is eye opening. This is eye opening. It's eye opening. Gary, are you telling me the drug dealer,

kingpin, pimp that has a mansion in Bel Air was good at having sex with women? I'm gonna tell you off the air, some of the women. And you won't believe me. Oh really? Yeah. Like that? Oh famous girls.

Wow. Just at the house. Say one name we believe in. Nope. But like I got the movie held up. Halle Berry. Why I was living with him. No.

No. Why I was living with him I got the movie held up. Oh shay. I said no. But you said no kind of yet. Make me feel good. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's good. What's up? What's up?

Andrew. No. Definitely not. No. Anyways. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm leaving the next day to go shoot Held Up.

So he goes, he goes, he goes, yo, my boys come and pick him. This one, everybody had the Lincoln Navigators. He goes, I said, no, they're going to have a car service. He goes, motherfucker, you ain't going to going to have a car. So he goes, Oh fuck, uh, you ain't going to your first movie in a fucking, uh, uh, a sedan. He said, you know, he goes, no, I got my boy come. We're going to take you right. Like in the navigator. How do you even like connect with this guy? Like, where does he,

he used to always be at the comedy clubs and how he, how I started hanging out with them was it it was Thanksgiving, this before cell phones. I was doing all the black rooms in LA. So Tuesday night was the comic store, Monday night was improv, Sunday night was Laugh Factory. It's Monday night at the improv. Mo' better. Mo' better Mondays. Were out front. Was D-Ray, was that D-Ray?

D-Ray wasn't hosting them. D-Ray wasn't even on the scene back then. This was like 98. So I'm out front, everybody's hanging out in the shit clothes and he goes, yo, gee, what you doing with Thanksgiving? I go, nothing, just come by the house. All right, what's the address?

Just keep my NIST 4 cell phones too. Write the address down. Thursday comes, motherfucking Gary shows up in Compton to his mom's house and I knocked on the door. The motherfucking answer door goes, you came? I was like, you invited me. On time? He just kept like staring at me.

I was like, what are you staring at? He goes, yo, I never had no white boy in my house. I go, my boys wouldn't believe there's a white boy in my house right now. My mama's house? He was literally tripping that I showed up. You're like a celebrity. And I knew to hang with the women.

Don't hang in the backyard with the dudes. Wait, why? Don't play domino. If you went with the women, you good. Tell me, tell me, tell me. What's the, why? Because if they vouch for you, we like him. He cool.

They gonna vouch for you quick. But the dudes are gonna be more suspicious. They got a white guy who was a cop. Yeah, white ear. I stayed in the kitchen all Thanksgiving. Motherfucker, I was mixing sweet potato pie. I was putting cheese in the macaroni cheese, bruh. I was in that bitch.

I just fucking crushed his pumpkin. I think I started crying when I ate it. Thank you so much. This is so flavorful. Okay, so you guys. But I got in good. That's what started the relationship. I showed up and then he hired me.

I thought he hired me to go to Utah to host this thing for Brian Russell. This is when the Jazz had Karl Malone, John Stockton. So Brian Russell was playing for the jazz at the time. So he was real cool with Brian, right? They knew each other from San Bernardino back in the day. So they said, yo, I'll never forget, they go, Casey and JoJo and Rolls Royce,

we got a concert Brian's doing, will you host it? I said, yeah. So they fly me out to Salt Lake. I go there, it's funny, Casey and Jojo doesn't show up I just remember it's like a junior college gym and it's packed but it was all fucking Samoan looking people Oh, yeah, and and I was like, I'll say my audience and I hadn't really been on TV at all So I'm a no-name about to go up Casey didn't show up. They they just like they lied. They said they missed the flight and then Brian goes,

all right, I'm gonna try to private. Where are you at? And they were, and they were lying. They just weren't going to show up. And so the concert got canceled. But it really got me in with like Brian Russell, my roommate, cause they were close. And then I remember I went to the game the next night against Portland.

Hold on. What happens with the show? They just led by left It's just shows canceled That was it. I stayed backstage a whole time. I don't and they still paid me I showed up I mean, whoa Wow, that's kind of be embarrassing for a guy like that. Yeah, he was hot. He was hot He was like no show. They're not coming. Their band was there Casey Jones didn't show up the band was there the Rolls Royjo didn't show up. The band was there. The Rolls Royce was the open act. They were there.

I was there. The only two people that didn't show up was Casey and Jojo. So everybody's prepared to do the show and then they bail. And then they was like, we missed the flight. Why didn't they say they're untied or something like that? I don't know. But I think they weren't expecting Brian to be like, yo, I'm about to send a private.

Yeah. No, they were like. And then he pulled it, yeah. Yeah, they pulled their trump card, so to speak. So that's what got me cool with them. And then we just, we just became friends over that. And then he asked me to house it. He said, yo, I'm about to leave town for a couple months, man. Can you house it? And I was like, well, let me see the house. Fucking two bedroom

rundown apartment in North Hollywood off Lancashire. I went to this house, I went, what the fuck? Indoor pool on the inside and outside. Like it was just the most beautiful home with nothing in it, by the way. No, there's no pictures, no TV, no refrigerator. There's nothing in this bitch. His door had a padlock on it.

You couldn't get in his room. And then I just remember, I said, I can house it here. And then I asked him, I said, can I put pictures of me up on the wall? He said, I don't give a fuck what you do. Mother of God, I was bringing girls back there they thought it was my shit.

He said, what are you doing with comedian, man? That's when comedians had TV deals. Yeah, yeah, ABC, CBS, Ta-Hundo. I'm big, I'm big in Germany, baby. I got steak sauce in that bitch. So you were living good while you were in LA, even though it's the beginning of your career. I can honestly say my first year in LA,

the 98 year, I got to be with Jamie Foxx, I got to roll with Jamie. I'm gonna keep that shit off the air. Cause you know, Jamie, man, Jamie can go. Like parties, why Jamie's parties are legendary. Yeah. So I'm hanging out with Jamie. I got the big ass house in Bel Air

that people think is mine that it's not. I go, I'll just put like this. I lived what everyone thinks the Hollywood life should be for one year. And that was enough. I'd be dead. Really? If I kept that going was enough. I'd be dead. If I kept that going. Yeah, I'd be dead. Fuck. We had some parties. We had a July 4th party in 98. Kobe showed up. Nobody knew. He was just got done with his rookie year. Right? My buddy from San

Diego is there and he fucked it up the intro because they go, yo, Kobe's here. And I was like, oh, there was a lot of other celebs there too, right? You know, Kobe was like, I don't know, he's like, he just didn't go out. Yeah. So for him to show up, it was a day party. Yeah.

I remember my buddy, keep in mind, everybody's acting like it's my house, because he don't want anybody to know it's his. So when everybody comes, I'm getting introduced to everybody. So I remember they go, hey, Kobe's here. And I go out to say hi to Kobe. My fucking buddy is like, with an earshot, and he keeps walking around, he goes, Kobe Bryant.

I came with Kobe Bryant to here, jelly bean son. Kobe, Kobe Bryant. I was like, dude, shut the fuck up. And he's even when he's standing there, hurrying up his dream, he goes, Kobe baby. Kobe Bryant. He goes, I came with Kobe to here, K to the O to the B to the E. I was like, and you can. Kate's an old to the beat to the eat.

And you can tell Kobe's like shaking my hand, but going, what the fuck is it? But he just kept walking around us. I go, what are you doing? I got pulled up. I was like, what the fuck are you doing? Bro, man, that's what could ride, bro. That's correct. It's like. So Kobe's 19 at this point. Yeah. Wow. He wasn't drinking or nothing. No, I'm not trying to inc at this point. Yup. Wow. He wasn't drinking or nothing. No, I'm not trying to incriminate you.

And he was there for probably, he was probably there less than an hour. Wow. We came, hung out, had some handler bodyguard with him. He was real cool though. Yeah. Real cool. But there was like, at that time, I bet you half the NFL was at that party. Holy shit.

Wow. It was a bad, that party was so epic. I would be like, uh, uh, a Gold's gym and Pasadena somebody, y'all, you have another party. So you were in a lot of ways, the man, a year into comedy, in LA, in LA, San Diego first. I'm a white guy doing all the black shit. So I was the only one really doing it. So you were very recognizable.

Early 20s. I'm at that age where you're going out and you're all that stuff. So it was, I don't, that was one of the funnest years of my life. I really got to live the LA experience for one year. Okay, you're so popping at this time and all these people are coming to your house

and it's the party. Are you like believing the hype? Are you hitting on like famous chicks? Are you? I had no problem hitting on famous chicks. And was it successful? Couple. Really? Not, no A-listers.

What? But you know, couple classmates from a different world. I don't mean regulars. I mean one episode. I didn't know you hit Wendley Gilbert. We're sorority sisters. Okay, when you move out, is it a reality check? Well, I had to go.

That was when the shit was hitting the fan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I'm seeing shit I shouldn't see. No, I know. But then you have to adjust your lifestyle. Yeah, now you're better. But no, this all happened like over the course of six, seven months. So in that six, seven months, I got the hosting job on BET. So I'm on TV now. But your new house doesn't look like that, I imagine. No. There has to be an adjustment period. But your new house doesn't look like that, I imagine. No.

There has to be an adjustment period. And like, are all these people that were, you know, kind of, you know, living the good life around you, then they see your new house. Are they looking at you differently? Do they think? No, I don't think it was like that. I was like, I just end up moving in with my ex. And she had a nice little it was it was the complete opposite.

It went from party, party, party to now I'm living in a nice town house in Glendale right right and so it's it's very quiet now you know what I mean so is you know it's easy transition Wow did you ever have interaction with Kobe after that party? Nope. It was one and only. Wow. My boy fucked that all up. I still blame him to this day. I was like, dude, what the, he thought that was my house. Yeah. I was like, he just, I'll never forget his fucking cheesy ass. I can call it out, Scott King, motherfucker, from Dayton, Ohio.

That's it. God damn it, Scott. He fucked that all up. And every time the cops came, were you able to smooth it over? Every time. There was never a moment where it was like- What'd you say, were you able to smooth it over? Every time. There was never a moment where it was like... What'd you say? Did you play the military card? What'd you say?

No, like, so we had... There wasn't neighbors close by, but they were in the vicinity. And all they see is like a line of cars and black people getting out. You know? And I'm talking like... You're talking like, Nate Dogg-type people, right? You're not looking at Wayne Brady's getting out. You know what I mean? So they're like, it's one of these type people, right? You're not looking at Wayne Brady's getting out. You know what I mean?

So they're like, it's not like these black people and you know, they're hearing music and we're partying. We never had late night parties. I was always, July 4th was like noon to seven. Ah, smart. And then we weeded everybody out and then we let maybe like 30 people stay late. And it was always good odds.

It was 10 dudes and like 20 girls. You know what I mean? And is that by design? Like are you? What's that? A freak off. So the freak off is what happened in your house. I'm like this.

I've never heard of that. What is a freak off? There is a story I can't share. So the same night that July 4th party, we're afterwards, we're in a jacuzzi and there's like 10 people in the jacuzzi. And there's like 10 people in the jacuzzi and we're all just kind of sitting. Keep in mind, I'm still young in the game and everything's just, I'm just soaking everything in like a sponge. We had a sauna and this

guy started fucking this girl in the sauna. So everyone's just talking. Let's say we're talking about the Lakers or the Clippers or something. And this, all they see is this girl's ass cheek and the steam And he's just pounding it and he's got her up and no one's acknowledging it Are we not gonna talk about the bitch getting fucked? I don't care the car on my little punk shack in the playoffs This dude is fucking a girl right here So the whole time we're talking, he jumped up like this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It never got acknowledged and then they just came out like, how y'all doing? I was like, oh, LA's different. Really? LA's different, bro.

So you live like the, what people assume is the wild LA life. Yeah. I didn't, I observed it. You observed it, I don't wanna put anything bad on you. But like when people do talk about Hollywood and these freak offs and these parties, there is a version of that which kind of exists.

Oh, I don't doubt anything after the first year I saw. That insane. So you think it gets as crazy as everybody says, even crazier than what you saw? I think it gets way crazier than what I saw. Like when you- I saw a minor version of it. Like when people talk about the Diddy shit Are you are you like a hundred percent some weird things were happening on those parties? Yeah? Yeah, yeah

Wow, yeah, like shit that ever made you feel uncomfortable ever Legal in that way, but like so debauchery that you're like gay you're saying gay I mean like so debauchery that you're like, you know you're saying gay. No, no, no. I'm not saying that, I mean like, so the botchers that you're like, yo, what are we even doing here? Like fucking is fun, but... No, no, I never saw nothing that would

make me uncomfortable, I would say that. Yeah. It was never, I never saw no gay shit. Even after that one year, did you ever, like, cause you're in the industry, you think like a man did massive you're think like a man, did massive hit, think like a man two comes out. Are you getting invited any of that shit that they're like,

yo, this is weird and I don't feel comfortable. We let the freak off. No, no, I never went there. No, you mean Harvey Weinstein in the hotel room? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that that first year was the most I'd seen in my life. OK, OK. OK. It was honestly, it was the age I was at. It was the time that time in LA. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it was just it was just the stars aligned so to speak. Like everything

was happening. I got I got the whole Jambalala comic for you. I'm a white guy on a black show. I get a movie with Jamie Foxx, which is huge that time right? Held up. Oh yeah. Yeah. We shot up in Canada. So I was kinda, Jamie was feeling me out like, is Gary cool or not? You know what I mean? So it was just, honestly, I wouldn't say anything. It was great. Wow.

And the thing is, I'm still cool with the dude. After it all hit the fan, I still go back. Man, I've visited that dude, and I've visited him in San Quentin, in Folsom, he's somewhere else now. I'm probably gonna go see him in a couple weeks when I'm up in the bay, you know what I mean? He's still my guy, he didn't ever do me wrong.

You know what I mean? And I literally told him like when I had to move out, I go, dude, I can't be around this shit, bro. I mean, I'm seeing, I'm not seeing like, I'm not seeing anybody rob anybody. I'm not seeing anybody overdose, but I'm going Jesus, like the the one story that I was like, oh, this is different. It used to be the key club in L.A. Yeah. So in the Century Club was Sunday night in L.A. OK, the century comes a better story.

The promoter for the Century Club at the time, I don't know who he was, I'd always go there with my guy, right? We always got in, we always walked in, nobody stopped us, right? One night I went out by myself and I told him, I said, bro, I'm gonna go up to the Century Club. He goes, all right, I'm just gonna chill the house. All right.

So I go, the promoter wouldn't let me in. So I'm sitting, I was like, damn it. And he literally asks, he goes, yo, where's the boy? I was like, oh, he didn't come. And he was like, all right. And just let me stand out there. I go, oh, so I just got my truck and drove back home. So I'm home like hourly goes, I thought he was going to go.

Yeah, your boy wouldn't let me in. He goes, I'll handle it. That's all he said, right. That July 4th party, right. He goes, gee, come here. I said, what? He's got the dude in the closet at the house. Holy shit. So he opens the closet and the dude's there. And he goes, hey, tell here. I said, what? He's got the dude in the closet at the house. So he opens the closet and the dude's there and he goes, tell me what the fuck happened.

And I was like, I don't understand. He goes, did you go to the century club? And then he goes, so the guy's like in the closet and he goes, yo, you have my boy in? He's with me? When he's not with me? He goes, he's me, blah, blah, blah. And I'm going, what the fuck is about to happen?

And I go, hey man, things just some misunderstanding. When I said that, that fucking promoter goes, that's all it was, misunderstanding, misunderstanding. I was like, wait a minute, why is this motherfucker in the closet? And he's like this, hold on. I was like, well, this is some different shit. You know what I mean?

What the fuck are those people gonna rather stop my boy, right? Crazy shit. We went to the key club one time on Sunset. That's so dope. This stresses me out. All of this gives me so much anxiety. So we went to the key club one night in LA and we just walked in and this one big, big old

redheaded white bouncer grabbed him by the arm. It was like you Let people know when someone's away Say the color of skin if it's a white person around so few white people you have to point it out. Yeah, red-headed white dude. You know who you're worried about? The bouncer to keep the level. That's so funny. So. And who we would have got it with redheads. I said redheads. But he's like, I think I'm being red-boned.

I don't want to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go on, go on, go on, go on. He grabbed him by the arm. He did nothing wrong. If it's your first day at the nightclub, you're supposed to stop people from walking in. Motherfucker, he grabbed him and he was like,

all of a sudden he freaked out. Like he looked at him and he was going to his car and I was like, oh shit, is he about to grab something? You know? So I'm following him down sunset. I'm going, bro, bro, it ain't that serious. No, fuck that shit. Nobody's stopping me, bitch. I was like, bro, bro, it ain't that serious. No, fuck that shit. They might stop at me, bitch.

I was like, oh, it looks about to happen, right? We come back. The promoter for the key color tonight is now following him. He goes, bro, he ain't know he ain't know. And then he goes, he goes him and me. Then one goes back and goes, you're fired. Wow. Fired the bouncer like that. Wow. The bouncer.

What the fuck I do. Bouncer got lucky, to be honest with you This is a real dude. That's no no this motherfucker was no joke, bro. I'm giving you like the PG Prison for yeah, of course, but still I mean Yeah, I don't want to say Off air I'll pull him up. I'll show you. Yeah, I mean, what a fucking lie. And he was a big dude too, he was like six, seven. He wasn't a small dude. Does life get more boring after that for you?

Like you get married, you have a family, which is not boring at all, obviously it's incredible, but like you're living this insane movie for about six or seven months. And then you go to have a very kind of traditional home, you're on the road. You have success like What is happening your brain at that point time? Are you like less anxious? Like you must be a little nervous You're living with a drug dealer. He's throwing parties

Locked up I go. Yeah, that's a good move There's a good move getting out of there me because you could have got caught up in like a Rico, right? I don't know if I don't know What is it called when you're aware of what's going on? You sort of got caught up in like a Rico, right? I don't know if, I don't know. I don't know. What is it called when you're aware of what's going on? You're eating and abetting or something? Yeah. I was purposely not asking questions.

I think that's why he hung out with me. I never asked a fucking word, bro. So it's just like, yo, let's have fun. We're hanging out. But I will say, I never paid for a drink. I never had no problem getting into clubs. And if anybody is like, well watch this, and be like, Gary Bullshitting,

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So you're with the guy and it's like, you're this white dude that you're in, you're in the black comedy circles, but which at some point in time, when you start to get success, there might be like some pushback. I'm sure you've experienced that in your career. Like you've had massive success

as a white dude in black comedy. But do you think at that point in time it was like, no, he's cool. He's with him. There was this cosign. Do you think that was helpful in the beginning? I think in L.A. it just got me into rooms. Like people was like, you know, I mean, do you know Scrancio? Yeah. OK, Scrancio knows who I'm talking about.

Scrancio like was running the same group with him, right? Scrancio knows who I'm talking about. Scrancio was running the same group with him, right? Scrancio one night accused me of stealing one of his jokes. Have you seen my act in Scrancio's act? Okay. It's literally like Bill Maher said, I'm trying to steal politically incorrect. Yeah. So Scrancio was being cool. Scrancio was not being an asshole.

We're outside the improv and he was like, yo, gee, my boy said you took something. I go, what? Here's what they said I took. Scrancio used to bring somebody on stage or something for a bit. And then one night I'm messing around and I brought somebody on stage.

But it wasn't planned. You're just kind of riff in it. Yeah. And Scroggit knew. And this is not in Diamond and Scroggit. He was cool as fuck. We was outside, we're talking, but his boys was like, well, fuck it, he stole your shit. They're hyping him up.

They're like hyping him up to hit me, right? I go back. Scroggit can go, too. Hold on. That's not a guy. Yeah. I go back and tell my guy. I say, yo, fucking Scroggit and his boys, man. Yeah, I go back and tell my guy. I say yo fucking scrunch on his boys, man

He goes, huh? I'll handle it Geez we see Next Tuesday we see what the comedy store Scrancio pulls me aside He my boy sees Scrancio and the same dudes. Yeah aside and tells Scrancho, man, hey, did somebody say Gary stole your shit? And Scrancho was like, nah, he was misunderstanding, motherfucker said this and you know, it ain't like that.

He goes, all right. And he looked at his boys. He was like, he looked at the boy, he goes, you never speak to him again. And he got to say, Gary, you say to me. And they go, all right, all right. I was like, what the fuck? That's crazy. You know? He was like, don't you ever speak to him again.

Whatever you say to him, you say to me. What happened? Like, how do you guys think you developed that? He really seems to care for you. He really seems to look out for you. Yeah, facts. And where does that come from? He just said, I don't know.

He always said, like, I never asked questions. I never do you think that you're like the one person in his life that just made him feel like a regular guy? Maybe. He's this incredibly powerful, feared human being from the stories you tell me. Right. And you got to carry that weight every single interaction you have. Like he doesn't get led into a club. He has to make it known that you can't do that to a person like him. And at every point in time, I imagine he's thinking about like how he exists within the hierarchy of humans he's around. That bouncer gets fired. That gets sent around. Hey, don't mess with this guy.

It's constantly don't mess with this guy. And then when he's hanging out with you, maybe he feels like he can kind of let that ego go a little bit. But he he used to love the comedy clubs, bro. He was there every night. But outside of the comedy clubs, I'm trying to understand why he's so protective of you and why you become a representation of him. When you guys were hanging just the two of you, were you making him laugh? Like, were you cracking him up?

Yeah. Like he was silly when it was just y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was he like, was he also joking around? Did you see a different side of him? Yeah, I saw a different side of him. And what was that side? I don't know. I saw him, he kind of let his guard down.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And what is it about you that allows him to do that? I don't know. It's a weird thing. It was like complete opposites just hanging out. Like I wonder if you... Oh, here's a funny story.

I came in one time and he was in my room and he was asleep on the bed, but he had the gun in his hand, right? So he's sleeping like this and I'm doing this. I'm trying to go, hey! I'm like, no! I'm trying to wake him up and not get shot. No! I'm yelling his name, yeah! And then he goes, what the fuck you doing?

I was like, dude, you gotta fucking do it on your head. I want you to wake up and fucking it goes on. And then he looks at me like, well, look at safety on this shit. But I don't know. I'm not around that world. Like, yo, my guy. Were you ever like careful making jokes around him?

Cause I'm sure with everyone, you're like ribbing people, you know, roasting, whatever. I never roasted him. Were you intentional about it? Like, oh, I don't want to cross the line with this guy. Yeah, not intentional. I just didn't feel the need. Yeah. You know, I didn't feel the need. Yeah. Why are you so comfortable in that kind of environment? Like growing up in Ohio? You don't know any better. You're naive. I just got to LA, bro. He's like really taking care of me. As far as like, you know, I'm getting to spots, I'm in the mix, you know.

He had money so I was never paying for shit. You know what I mean? I wonder if you being an outsider, not just you being a white guy, but you just not being involved in his world at all allows him to let the guard down. Because if he's like getting vulnerable and telling some random person in his crew

things that make him nervous or he's afraid of, that starts to go around and then all of a sudden people start to think, yo, he's actually scared or he's this, he's vulnerable. But with you, you're this outside. It's like you almost get to be like Tony Soprano's therapist. Yeah. He doesn't have torano's therapist. Yeah.

He doesn't have to prove he's hard with you. He doesn't have to constantly prove he's hard all the time, which is probably like a very relaxing moment in someone's life. I didn't think about that. Yeah, no? Yeah, you're just laughing, making them laugh, y'all are just goofing around.

It's like, it's such a break from the rest of his life. Yeah. I mean, just, I can't imagine the pressure of every interaction in your life. You have to let everybody in that room know that you are the baddest motherfucker on the planet. That's stressful to even consider. He doesn't get let in the club and he has to go. I'm sure on some level he's just like, fuck, if I don't make a thing out of this, they're gonna think.

I still don't know what was going to happen. He was going to make a situation. It seemed like it. Yeah, but I was like, what is going on right now? You know what was gonna happen. He was gonna make a situation. It seemed like it, yeah, but I was like, what is going on right now? You know what I mean? I still have no idea what would happen that night. Fuck.

Yeah, so then you leave that, you go on the road, and at this point in time, are you just selling tickets? Like, the road is kind of easy to fill up, or? No, I think people got this misconception that I got on BET and I was just selling out everywhere Yeah, that didn't happen for me. Where's the whole of stories? Yeah, what is that period between Bel Air and? 2011 Mike Epps

Yeah event. What is that time? Like yeah, when are you doing the comic strip in Edmonton for 40 people? Yeah Yeah, I don't have a lot of those stories interesting. Yeah, that's all I don't have the Because I was I just I got the job on BET I was headlining and I wasn't that great, right? I was selling a decent amount of tickets that I always got put on the ensemble shows at theaters You know, I mean you're doing those types of things and I was always like You're always comfortable. I've never had a I never had to I was always like...

You were always comfortable? I've never had to worry about the club not bringing me back. Did you ever build close relationships with any of these guys? Any of the comedians that we would know? Like, who were you closest to? Or were you kind of your own man on an island? Yeah, I was kind of on an island. Nobody that you really got close to?

Because I've seen you around these spaces. Honestly, the friendships usually come from grinding, like you but like you Bobby Lee a little bit, but like, yeah, I don't think I it's weird. I never thought about that. I don't think I have any like super close. So you got on kind of quickly. And you're by yourself. Yeah. Well, yeah, you're seeing like I said, when I met him, I was like, I always see you on the flyers coming. Yeah, or you just left, you know, he's coming or leaving that's usually how you get to know people like they're coming or going but I don't have any like

People I call the time stand-up wise I'm trying to think No, I mean I still I'm proud to joke coy a lot interesting, you know, he was around in the beginning Yeah, we met I think we met We really met at University of Alabama one night had a college show together And he still brings up how I fucked him one night at the comedy store I switched the lineup and I put him up after a guy that was really strong and Joe just was starting And it was the black knight and he fucking ate dick and he still blames me. I go dude, I'm so sorry.

Like, and I didn't do it with them malicious intent. To this day, I don't even remember why I switched the lineup but it literally was my call. And he still like remembers it. It's funny, the fucker's about to do so fine with Gabriel Glazes and he's still like, you motherfucker. I've talked once. Motherfucker, and he's still like, you motherfucker. I thought it was once.

Motherfucker, I'm like, you're fine. Who is your hardest follow? Ooh. Back in the day, when I first started, nobody wanted to go after Craig Robinson. Craig. Yeah. Because he had a fucking joke with his piano that brought the goddamn house down. Is this the one that he did on Def Comedy Gym? I was like, every time you see him on the little lineup, you'd be like, fuck, dude, I gotta go for this bitch? Yeah.

And he goes, I'm gonna go for that bitch. And I'm like, I'm gonna go for that bitch. And he goes, I'm gonna go for that bitch. And I'm like, I'm gonna go for that bitch. And he goes, I'm gonna go for that bitch. And I'm like, I'm gonna go for that bitch. And he goes, I'm gonna go for that bitch. And I'm like, I'm gonna go for that bitch.

And he goes, I'm gonna go for that bitch. And I'm like, I'm gonna go for that bitch. And he goes, I'm gonna go for that bitch. And I'm to see your booty. Something like that. It killed. I was like, every time you see him on the little lineup, you'd be like, fuck, dude. I gotta go after this bitch? Because you know he's gonna destroy. So crazy. Nobody wanted to follow Kat. Kat.

Back in the day when we were open micing, he was cat in the hat, because he had the biggie bit, the one he accused Cedric of stealing. He had that biggie bit where the car broke down. Dad brought the house down. She like, fuck. But I think the strongest back when I first got to LA was earthquake. Really?

Nobody. Earthquake had a fucking closer. And it was one of those runs. It was just built. It went for like five minutes. And it was like, I was dating this girl and she had a baby adult. And it was like this, he this girl and she had a baby adult and it was like this he played like this baby was in the crib with real fucking problems. You know what I mean? Going off like in baby talk and I was like in the crowd just. And then earthquake you know earthquake y'all.

Like you know it's not like a big synonym they're in the middle of fucking chaos. Earthquake y'all. And dips They're in the middle of fucking chaos. He goes, earthquake out. And dips and I was like, oh my fucking God. That's where I learned don't watch standup. Especially before you go up. If I know I'm following, back in the open mic day, if I'm going after Quake, Kat, Craig, and those dudes, I'm outside the building.

So I don't hear this shit. And I'm making sure I got loud conversation. Yeah. So when I go in, I'm not psyching myself out. You know what I mean? But Quake had the strongest closer in the late nineties, I think. Really? Yeah. I mean, man, I'm a motherfucker. Bring the house down with that shit. Wow. I want to find that bit. I've never, I've never heard that. Yeah. It's dated because I remember it's something, something had to do with a pager, you know, did you use my code on my page? Shit like that. So it's dated down. Yeah. I would say Quake was a window by one to follow back then.

Any, uh, this is a bad question, but, uh, there's part of it that's like, is there any set that you had that was just like absolutely destructive? And then somebody that was big, big, big just could not step into afterwards. Yeah. We don't have to name names. I don't want to name names, but like they, it happened at the, it happened at the Bay area black comedy competition, the same one that Nick won. Oh really? I I had a I don't know what I said, but the guy that went after me did really bad. And it was they used to like call the bombs his name

for a minute. Like, you know, like if you bomb that, oh, you had Andrew. You know, I can't really guys name though. Oh, my, I just remember he had a pink, the only thing I remember he came after me, he had a pink sweater with the big white lapels coming out of it afterwards. It just was really bad that night. I don't like to shit on comics. I really can't remember his name though.

Because I've never seen anything. Better not to do that. Yeah, but that was a rough one for him. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm curious, like so many of the stories is you obviously having so much acceptance within the black community specifically. I'm curious, was there ever any issue

being a white dude in that space that caused you problems or you lost opportunities purely just because of, you know, what you look like? No, I think I didn't, I think it's one thing to be a white guy and you're acting like you wanna hang out with black people when you're ingrained in the culture. Like I said, they saw me at the black spots when I got to LA. I wasn't doing the comedy store all night.

I was going to Mavericks flat. I was going to the Comiac theater. I was going to all the black shit and not the ones in Hollywood. I'm talking with the ones in Compton and on the other side of the 10. You know what I mean? So I don't think I didn't, I never saw that. Most of the comics was cool. It's so weird how like I saw that in New York too.

Like we would do the black rooms in New York or coming up and I just didn't understand why it was so divided. Especially like the black comedy world. Yeah. No, like why comics? White and black? Yeah, there'd be like these white comics that would be doing open mics, they'd be trying to get up at the clubs, and they would do these open mics that were horrible.

And the black rooms, this is what I'll say about the black rooms, if you show up and you want to get up... They will get you up. They'll get you up. That's why I started doing them. They're way more accepting than the clubs are not going to make you send them a tape, go do this whole fucking rigmarole, and the open mics in the city are just literally that, it's just comedians there,

there's no regular audience member. So in my mind I was just like, well I wanna go up wherever. It's not like weird to perform for black people. I grew up in New York City, but what I saw is like mostly the non-black comics in New York would not even venture to the black rooms. Which is crazy, cause you figure.

Don't you wanna go up in front of people? Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. And you wanna to push yourself. Like I want to make sure these jokes are, they go over wherever I'm at. Yeah. And also one thing that I think really taught me in the black rooms is like the black rooms,

they were not there for you to try your little misdirection math problem. Do you know what I mean? Like the white audience sometimes will entertain, they'll be like, oh, I see what you did there. Yeah, like, oh, I got it. And the black room's like, oh yeah, okay, good, whatever. Oh, so you didn't kill them?

So I stabbed them. Oh, I guess you stabbed them. You know what? It was important that you acknowledged that we're in this room. And I wanna go back to that moment where Floyd comes back in, Floyd walks into your special taping.

That's, you have to be present in the room. That's something I learned in the black rooms. You have to be present in the room. If you are not present, they immediately will just check out on you. They're like, are you gonna pretend I'm not here? Like what the? You have to be present.

Like if something weird is happening, you have to call it out. And I think it's something that has really helped me in my career that I don't think I would have developed in the white rooms at all, Emotion has to be real. You have to be present. Like if something weird is happening, you have to call it out. I think it's something that's really helped me in my career that I don't think I would have developed in the white rooms at all, or like the whatever you call them, the mainstream rooms.

Mainstream rooms, yeah. And it's like, because they'll give you a little bit of leeway. Like the joke will go over and be like, oh, I guess that one didn't go over. And then they'll be like, all right, well, what's the next one? There's this like politeness that exists, right?

Yeah. And, but yeah, it's, all right, well, what's the next one? There's this like politeness that exists, right? And, but yeah, it's interesting. Like you develop this like really important tool for comedy, which is being able to stay present in the moment. Not every show is gonna be polite where people are like, they waited two weeks to get that ticket to go to the cellar and they're ready to go and they're waiting

with their hands clasped like this. You know, it's, yeah, I wish more, I wish more comics, especially when they're younger, would and they're waiting with their hands clasped like this. Yeah. You know, it's yeah, I wish more. I wish more comics, especially when they're younger, would go into the black rooms. I think they learn a lot more. Yeah. I think I've only been to the cellar once. Really? Wow.

Do you are you scared to do white rooms? No, not at all. Do you remember the first time? I'm begging. Literally, I keep begging my agent and he'll tell you this. Get me in Salt Lake, please. I just want to go. I want to experience

everything. Yeah, because I don't think you wouldn't cross over. Yeah. I think it'd be very easy. This latest special, it was on purpose and somebody would be like, don't listen to haters and stuff. Though the one on Mint right now, there's no race jokes. And that was a purposeful thing on my part. But why? I don't think that there's not one mention at all. And I was just like, you know what? Cause how this special came out was the last special I had, um, broken family. We did that on Friday and I woke up Saturday morning and I went, I told my manager, I said, I think I had another hour.

Did we get it last night? Cause we did two shows. She was, yeah, we're clean. I go, I'm going I think I have another hour. Did we get it last night? Cause we did two shows. She was like, yeah, we're clean. I go, I'm gonna do a different hour tonight. So we sat there at the coffee shop and we wrote down bullet points. And I just remember there was 12 bullet points and it was like one or two words and we taped it to the stage. So I could glance down and,

cause you know, I didn't want a choppy special if I was gonna try it, I needed the flow. So we did it in the flow of things. And it came out good. And then when I wrote it, I looked at it, I said, look, there's no race jokes in this. I was like laughing about it. And then when I saw it, I go, all right.

I don't think, I don't think. Again, I'm curious. Obviously I want it to be successful just because I love you. But like, I don't think that like staying away from race jokes would change any dynamic. I actually think going on pods and stuff will communicate to more people that, at the end of the day, you're a storyteller.

And you tell them- Especially if you live with a drug dealer in LA. White people are interested in that shit. White people watch The Wire. You know what I mean? Fact, fact, fact. So to me, it's just about an education process. You're a storyteller at the end of the day.

White people probably seeing you in these black spaces and then they might go, oh, maybe he's a comic for black people and not for me. White people are a little concerned about that shit. They wanna watch black shit from afar, but they don't wanna be in it a lot of times. That's the reason why Roots was the number one show on TV in the 70s

when that miniseries came out, because white people was like, I wanna watch this shit. No, the biggest consumer of hip hop music is white people, right? I mean, there's like, you know, population things that upset that as well. You're saying exactly what you're saying. No, no, I know, I know. I want to watch it on TV. I don't know if I want to go to the concert or go there.

But there is a little concern, and also like, to defend white people sometimes, there also is like a shame. It's like, am I appropriating this? There's like, there's sometimes a slap on the wrist if white people do get too interested. It's like, am I appropriating this? There's sometimes a slap on the wrist if white people do get too interested. They're like, oh, you're going to take this shit from us, which I understand from black perspective as well, which is like they have seen that happen. Like white people putting cornrows in and all of a sudden trying to make it some white shit. So I understand both sides of it. But like there is a thing with white people is like they want to like comfortably watch something that they have nothing to do with.

They really are, white people are really interested in that kind of shit. But I think the stories that you tell, especially the ones from today, like my assumption is people are going to love this and they're going to be like, I want to go check out Gary's like that what the standup is like. So I'm very- Oh yeah, it's way better. I do coke on stage. Yeah, I stole a key from him.

I do one line in his memory every fucking show, bro. You've been asleep since fucking February. That's why I'm sweating. You gotta snort it for the homies sometimes. Do you see how the coke came out of my system? This is crazy. That was a lotion, it was blow. Okay, the first 20 minutes of this was rough. So what happened, dude? You were pouring.

Yeah, and it just stopped. That happened 50 degrees. That happened on Think Like a Man, the first one. Oh my fucking God. The first time we all sat in the bar together and we're in the scene, I started leaking, just like I was on here, and I didn't know why. I started leaking just like I was on here and I didn't know why. I'm not nervous. I'm amongst friends. Why the fuck am I sweating? And I know my body. I'm like, just get adjusted, get adjusted. And then one of the producers go, Jesus Christ.

It didn't help, bro. Cause I'm doing the same thing. Like, I know. Do they see it Yeah. The shit, I'm like, I don't think they see it. I go, cause everybody's just doing their shit, nobody's acknowledging, they're actors, and as soon as that producer goes, Jesus Christ, then the funds have been opened. Dude, this guy's like Samuel Jackson in The Time to Kill. They kept calling me Sweaty Jackson the whole shoot. I go, what the fuck, bro? And then I leaned up and it looked like I got shot. It was just sweat in the back.

But you got to realize it wasn't it was warm. It was July. We were in a bar and they had to shut off the AC and then they shut off the fans. So as soon as they say we're ready to roll, it just went up like 20 degrees. And my body just takes a minute to adjust. I was fine the rest of the day. Yeah. in that booth all day, but that first 30 minutes was like this shit. I was like, that goddamn producer? Jesus Christ!

You don't want to do that in fucking chems right there. It was attack mode right there. Bro, I've been there. Can I ask a question sort of based on that? You were in Daddy Day Care. What was it like meeting Eddie Murphy for that movie? That's like one of my weirdly favorite movies from a childhood.

Yeah. So I wanted to ask. Daddy Day Care is weird how it came about. I was preparing all week for an audition for an Eddie Griffey movie called My Baby Daddy. So they called me in the morning and they go, hey, we got an audition like an hour for this Eddie Murphy movie called Daddy Daycare.

And I go, no, no, no, it's Eddie Griffin. They go, Eddie Murphy. I said, Eddie Griffin, it's at three o'clock. I'm arguing with this lady that's not my agent on the phone. They go, Gary, you have an audition like an hour for this movie with Eddie Murphy. We know about the other one. I go, Gary, you haven't auditioned like an hour for this movie with Eddie Murphy. We know about the other one. I go, Oh really? So I drive to the Fox lot. I go in, it was one line. That's why I didn't have to really prepare it was, Hey boys, you got a brand

new cereal, Veggie, those boys and girls. So I'm looking at it and I go, the fuck am I doing this? And they, I was, there was all the kids was auditioned that day. So the whole the waiting room was all these kids. So when I walked in, I said, hey, can I ask this mom, can I bring your son into the audition? So I walked this kid in, there was no idea who I am. And I read for some dad first. And they said, all right,

read for the carrot and the broccoli. So I grabbed the kid and I sat him down and I started snaking around him and started dancing. And that's when I did the B-R-O-C-C-O-L-I. I just made that up in the audition room. And that's the only audition where they go, you got it. Really? So I did the song.

They said, you got it. And I go, oh, no fucking way. I just got it. In the moment you got it? Yeah, like they were like, you got it. They were like, dude, Steve Carr was like, bro, where are you from? Why don't I know you?

He goes, you just killed that shit. He goes, you're good. This never happens, by the way. And I've never had that happen before. I've never heard a story where someone just gives someone the role. Usually you have to get producers' approvals. I was in with the producers.

I skipped all the other steps. I was in with everybody. The director and producer was there. Yeah, okay. So they tell me I got it, great. Then we go to shoot. Eddie doesn't go to the table reads. Eddie's not at blocking. And he's not in another rehearsal. The first time I see him, I'm in this fucking carrot outfit. Comes around the corner and I'm literally this

close to his face. And I'm just like, and I first I got stunned. I go, fuck it. Eddie Murphy. Yeah. I'm looking like, that's his nose. He ain't got lotion in his ears. I'm looking at all his features like this close and then he goes, hey man, I didn't know you were in this. That's me. Oh, he knows who you are. Yeah. And I go, whoa. And he goes, he goes, I love that joke. I heard he knows stand up. Yeah, apparently. He said, I love that joke about Eminem and Tiger Woods. And that was the time he don't, I never knew if he was at the comedy store or not. He just sit in the back. So this bit was not on TV.

So clearly he's on the comedy store. That was the time when I said the world's upside down because the number one golfer is black, the number one rapper is white. Basic joke, but he knew it. And then, so I was like, I kind of felt validated a little bit. And then we go to do the scene where I'm supposed to do the song.

I don't do the song. I'm scared now because Eddie's there. Right. So I just start doing it. Hey, boys and girls, you got a brand new cereal video. And the director goes, cut. He goes, where's the fucking song? I go, what do you mean?

He goes, the song, the BROCLA. I go, oh, I know if you want it. He goes, that's how you got the goes, the song, the B-R-O-C-L-I. I go, oh, I know if you want it. He goes, that's how you got the part. I was like, oh. So I do the song, right? B-R-O-C-C-O-L-I. I am the broccoli and don't know why. D-A-R-O.

Is Eddie in the room while you're filming the scene? He's on the other side of that glass thing. I don't know if he's there or not. I don't know. Got it, got it, got it. It's a different room. Great movie. But we go to the premiere and

They blocked off all this shit in Westwood. They had like a kids carnival and stuff. It was dope Then Eddie was being so cool that day and there was a line of people to get pictures with Eddie Yeah, I'm literally next there was a fucking comic that wasn't in the movie. He was just an aggravating guy like Every time you saw him around town. He's just aggravating He goes up to Eddie right before I'm gonna get a picture with him Oh, and he grabs him and he grabbed my back of his hand Oh, and he start you could tell he was in his ear going well fuck you inspiration You do this shit, but Eddie was like bitch get away. Yeah, I got a line, huh? Yeah

If you're Eddie, you're just like who are you? Yeah, I got a line. I? Yeah. If you're Eddie, you're just like, who are you? Yeah, I got a line. I go I'm not next Yeah, yeah, just fuck Eddie was gone five minutes later. Yeah, just left the whole party go dude fucked it up I still have a picture with him this day. It's another Kobe guy, dude Yeah, the Kobe guy went his back and he didn't touch him. This motherfucker touched him and back of the head and was like Oh in his ear like motherfucker I could you could tell what he was saying, you know, he did it I think he did everything right. I think there's a lot of times, like, comedians look at Eddie and they're like,

oh, why don't you get back on stage? Everybody wants to see you on stage, or Eddie, why aren't you doing this, or Eddie, why aren't you doing that? Why, for me, I look at Eddie and I'm like, okay, he has a huge compound where his entire family can live on it, he has all these kids, he wants to spend time with his kids,

and then for a day job, he goes and makes a movie for 10 or 20 million dollars. And it's only in like the comedian's mindset where we're so yearning for more, we're never satisfied, that we look at Eddie Murphy's career and go, why doesn't he still do it? Yeah, no, he figured it out. He did it all and now he gets to hang out with his family,

which is what we should fucking do That's who Shannon Sharpe should call That's how you fuck white women Don't get any scandals Better than anybody I don't think he's be all right. There's nothing criminal happened. There's text messages, huh? Did he lose that bag? 100 million apparently is on the table for him. I don't think he's gonna lose it. I, yeah. They did something behind closed doors.

From what I know, the text, they were just into some wild shit. Yeah, and you're allowed to be into wild shit. Yeah. The weird thing is that a lot of people seem to be almost hoping that it happened. That's the thing that I never like. No, I like Shannon.

I like Shannon, and like an accusation is an accusation at the end of the day, it's like innocence will prove him guilty, so this is an innocent man and you wanna hope that these things didn't happen. We should all want her to be lying, because if she's lying, that means a woman wasn't assaulted. We should all hope women are not assaulted. That should be where our minds are, at least.

He is an innocent man right now. And if the girl's not doing a criminal suit, she's just suing for money, I'm a little suspicious. Especially, anybody that's ever been on this podcast, it had to benefit you. Yeah. So it's like, I wanna go back. You know what I mean?

I want guys like that that are giving comics like platforms. I want those guys to maintain a clean image. You're a psycho. You want that girl to not have been for you. That's one way to look at it. Listen man, you're fucking up the bag bitch. I've never heard that before. Listen, you're fucking up my bag bitch.

My numbers went to the roof after I got on Shaysha, dude. What are you talking about? I got it with the P-Skill New York crush. I never P-Skill in my life. But I did have a lot of people like, more than anything I've done in the last like two years, it was people will come up at the meet and greets and say, I saw the Shaysha interview.

Wow. Really? It benefits. I mean, I'm sure they saw my other shit, but that's the first thing that comes out of their mouth. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, you crushed that one. That was really funny. It was a good one.

The confidence from Shannon in his video saying drop the tape. Did you see it? Yeah. Oh yeah. He goes, drop, drop. Wow. I need to preview that. I know. Some edits. I was thinking that the 30 seconds are gonna drop. Did you see it? Oh, yeah, he goes drop drop The 30 seconds are gonna drop the fact you want 10 out there Dropping the tape is crazy. I think we should all learn, don't film yourself. Yo, what the... Don't film yourself fucking...

That is the thing, you just put on Instagram Live. I don't have the time. Yeah. I don't have the wherewithal. Hey, good lady, what was about to happen? Yeah. You know what I mean? That's a different level of confidence, though.

To film it? To film it and want it out. Because usually you film something, you watch yourself, you're like, oh man, I look way different in my head. Oh, man. I see, alright. Your body is like body is like woah I gotta do some squats your hair there? I need to trim my armpits what the fuck is going on over here

he said drop the tape yeah bro we don't all look like shit that's a good point yeah that's a big motherfucker. Yeah, you think you have a good set and you listen back to it, you're like, oh, I kinda bombed, you know what I mean?

That's how I feel like the tape would go. I'd be like, yo, drop it, then you see it and you're like, eh, scrub it. Yeah. Well, yeah, free Shannon, man. I hope he's okay. Yeah, because I need to get on Club Shashey, so. Yeah.

Is he still doing Eps? No, I don't imagine. He's still doing Nightcap. I think he's still doing his stuff. He's just not doing ESPN stuff. He dropped one with, obviously it was Tate, but he dropped one with Terrence Crawford and somebody else and saw this shit came out. So, episodes are still dropping. What do you think about Kanye's new song, man?

Did you listen to that at all? No? Don't know any lyric. Kanye's new song man, are you did you listen to that at all? No Don't know any lyric I mean, it's on it's on Twitter and it's a cousin shit. Oh, what is that one? Something about his cousin with his cousin or some shit. I think it was there was he was giving a fellatio to his cousin. I think that was the one. Yeah. Like blood cousin? Like blood cousin. Cause I mean, that's a good point. That's a good point.

That's a great point. Is it blood? Not that it matters. It shouldn't. That does matter. Well, yeah, it does. Your mom can't be sisters with the kid. Also, minorities just call friends cousins sometimes.

Yeah. No, I get it. That's the point he's making. He gets really aggravated by it. A bunch, a bunch of us were assuming that it was blood cousin, that's the point. He's making really aggravated by a bunch a bunch of us We're assuming that it was blood cousin, but you're right It could just be a friend of his and they were just sucking each other's dicks at a young age, which is great It's still a lot

That is odd. Yeah, there's that is no we gonna listen to it. It's some shit. You just take it to the grave Yeah, yeah, like kind of should watch this interview and realize I was very careful. Yeah, like you didn't say his name the entire interview. Yeah. And it was tough. A couple of times almost came out. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So hang with my cousin reading dirty magazines. All right. That's enough. Yeah, we got it. I got the gist of it.

I did see a meme that someone said Kanye got his jaw wired shut so he'd stop sucking his cousins. Oh my god. That was pretty good. Here's a crazy story about Kanye, where like, before the song came out through the wire, I was in, it was a long time ago, I was in Brooklyn, and I was at some like, little house party thing, there was like 30 people there, and somebody had something to do with that video, put it on the TV, and I didn't know like little house party thing. There was like 30 people there. And somebody that had something to do with that video, put it on the TV.

I didn't know what the fuck it was. I didn't know who he was. And they go, yeah, this dude's gonna blow, man. Literally. But he goes, you know this guy's about to, he goes, and it was like some videographer that was helping him with the video. And then it was like fucking six months later,

he was through the roof. And the only reason I remembered it is because he had D-Ray in the video. Oh, that's right. And D-Ray's riding. So when I watched it, I go, is that fucking D-Ray? And it's only I remembered it because it wouldn't have resonated

and I wouldn't have put two and two together. But he showed me it like right before he blew. Yeah, it was like the arm in the sling joke or something. He was like doing a joke with him. Yeah, and then I'll tell you another crazy story, Eminem's story. His second video is called role models. So I'm in it, but I'm basically an extra, but I wasn't actually when we recorded it. I was in that bitch. So Philip Atwell directed all Dr.

Dre's videos. Somehow he got wind of me and was like, yo, calls me on left field. Yo, we got this new rapper, man. Some say he went out yet. I know I knew who he was. He had this white rapper out of Detroit, man. He's got this shit coming out. He goes, we're about to do this video, man. We need somebody to make it funny

and punch up a little bit with us. So I go down this hangar in Santa Monica and we shoot and I don't know who he is, right? And nobody does. The shit's not out yet. You gotta be early 20s at this point, right? Yeah, this is right when I'm on BD and shit. Right when I got on there.

So I go to the video, if you pull up role models, I'm an extra in the background. I'm a cop in the background. Wow, I don't even think I've seen this. Yeah, it didn't pop like the other ones. Where's, he's in a, that's me. There I am. Wow.

And then so in the video, they go, hey, this guy's getting busted with weed and what are you guys gonna do? And so I went to craft services and I had cookies in my pocket, right? So we were supposed to arrest them. And then we were laying on top of the cop car and the scene was, you think we're arresting them?

And then the three of us are all getting high together on top of the cop car and the scene was, you think we're arresting them? And then the three of us are all getting high together on top of the cop car. So we're looking up at the sky and it's me, the criminal and then Eminem. So they passed the weed and after they passed the joint, I pulled the cookies out of my pocket. You started eating cookies? And I passed them there and it went over well,

I ate the cookies and then when the video came out, I go, damn, they took the cookie part out. Did that ever hit you after you did the M&M and Tiger joke? No, we didn't know each other. But even after the joke with M&M and Tiger? No, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, wow. And he didn't know me, I didn't know him.

Was he cool when you guys were on set? Yeah, he was cool. Was he nice, funny? He was just kinda, he was in the wild mode M&M, right? Oh, really? It was all new. He was just, he was cutting up with his boys and shit. I remember Dre was there and remember Dre just kept after we got that she goes man you two together. That'd be some shit

That'd be some shit you two together and they knew of you at the time for sure. I guess I don't know But I was like this I go. Yeah, I would would after the fucking M&M video came out. I go I hope they call me back one day. But yeah, that was kind of cool It's like before it happened. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's kind of cool to be there Well, then we ever get to the bottom of who Kendrick was talking about. Oh, yeah, was it was he talking about you and no Yeah, I feel I ran with it Oh, that's what we're doing? People are like, you clout chase? I go, that's what we do stand up. Yeah, clout. Entertainment is clout, bitch.

Nobody wants to be an anonymous comedian. People are so stupid. Oh, you clout chase? No fucking Kendrick? Duh. That's exactly why I did it. I didn't comment on Kumo D. To his credit, you said in your latest special there are no race jokes, so you did listen to him.

I did. This was before the song came out though. See? So that is the profound effect that he has on white comedians. There it is, I stopped. You stopped the media. Wait, do you see my- Cold turkey.

Dude, I'm so different now. Yeah. Just kidding. I learned. I learned. I'm gonna be like Mark Wahlberg. Just get on the 430, protein shakes and do no black shit no more. Jesus Christ. Also, that's a crazy thing about Mark Wahlberg. That's the first celebrity I ever saw.

Was he living that entourage life? There was, there was, it was, it was Marky Mark. Yeah. And I was in, I was in the Navy and I was, I was in Cincinnati and I was flying back to DC and this was before 9-11. She could go up to the gate and just hang out. Yeah. Something out to my buddies waiting to see me off. And then like four black guys, shoes, black guys are walking on the plan. Go the fuck who's coming off? And then Mark Wahlberg was in the middle of them

This is when he just had the the good vibration song was always long and they I just remember he was really short his calves was huge and I just remember it just popped out I go fuck why I said that I don't know it just popped out I go mark mark And then doesn't but that was the first celeb I ever saw in my life, 18 years old. I think he was doing a concert in Cincinnati that night, some summer series, but that was the first celeb I ever just saw. At this point, are there any celebrities that come to the show that you might not be familiar with, but your kids are more excited that you met

than you are? Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. I'm thinking, dang, that's a really good question. I don't know. Because I've heard this happen where it's like, oh, like I met so-and-so and my kids are going crazy because they, you know, oh, it's Mr. Beast. And you're like, who's Mr. Beast?

Bro, you never had a young kid come up to you and be like, dude, my dad is the biggest fan. All the time fan all the time Coaches in the NFL now Look at the players my own what the fuck yeah, I'm hard time like I used to really like hate a player this and That now I'm like this is a child. She's a child. This is a baby.

Yeah, facts. OJ came to my show when you're in Miami with A. Simpson. And as soon as I started talking to him, I go, I get why people fuck with you. Why, why? He is the most, he was the most charming person. Charming, yeah. I forgot he murdered people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Allegedly, allegedly. This is the coldest shit he did. I ain't never seen nobody do this. He came with two white girls and a dude. Left with zero. He tells the host, he goes, look, host goes, they said, OJ's here. They bring me out to say hi to him. And then he goes, yo, give me a, let me know if you're going to announce me that I'm in

a room. Right? This is when the coconut Grove improv was upstairs. And so the host goes, all right, I'm going to announce me that I'm in a room, right? This is when the Coconut Grove improv was upstairs. And so the host goes, all right, I'm going to tell this joke. And I would say, oh, he's in the room. Right. So he tells the joke. He goes, yeah, we have a big celebrity in the room. Oh, J. Simpson, this motherfucker moves seats and was sitting between two black

girls. Wow. He moved over. He stands up and goes, and the fucking crowd game was standing up. Right. And I was like, did that fucker move away from the white girl? And then as soon as it calmed down again, I went back to the white girls in the back. And then afterwards I'm sitting at the bar, he starts bullshitting for like 20 minutes. And the whole time he just wanted to be like, oh, did you do it? But he's just going, where are you from? And I was like, I was the coldest game I've played in my career. You know, I played in Buffalo. We were the Cincinnati Mavs and man, I ain't never experienced cold like that.

He just started talking about old football games and shit. I'm 20 minutes in before I went, man, this is OJ Simpson. I'm just talking football there. I lost track of everything. Oh, this guy's good. He's good. He's fucking good.

I lived there like I liked him. Yeah. All right, man. See you later, man. In that documentary, they were saying when he would beat him, Nicole, cops get called over there, and then they just end up being friends with OJ. I can see why.

Just be like, you know what? Hey, this guy. I completely experienced that side of him. Yeah. Yeah, I can see why. So he charmed you? Completely. Sociopath.

Completely charmed me, bro. I was like, I'm sitting here talking about Bengal shit and shit, you know what I mean? You like Carson Palmer? I think he's pretty good. You know what I mean? You're like Carson Paulman. That's pretty good. You know what I mean? You know, just regular shit. Wow. I'm curious, like people always talk about how comedy changed from like late 90s into the 2000s and today obviously is very different. In your experience with your audience, have you felt the same change?

You just grow with your audience. Yeah. You just grow with them. So it's the same people coming back. How do you feel like the audience has grown or changed? Um... Or you has grown or changed? Or you have grown and changed? You know, I found like, yeah, I know we do.

I talk about me being big with the black community, but a lot of military come out to a lot of ex-military come out because I get that a lot. You get the coins. Yeah. Or you get like, dude, you know, they saw a joke or someone being military police and shit like that. And so I get that a lot. you get like, dude, you know, they saw a joke or something being military police and shit like that. So I get that a lot.

So I would say far as like, what I noticed a lot of ex-military be coming out. You've had your audience for decades. There was a time which I don't think is currently happening where like there's a little more sensitivity around comedy. But when you have your own audience, they understand you. So you don't feel like you have to change your jokes at all. Well you broke it down I think you Shane

Gillis guys like you you just kind of you kind of paved the way a little bit showing like look I'm gonna I'm gonna just do me if you want to be offended that's on you I'm gonna do me so I got I got a little bit of heat with the special needs community back in 2016. This one time I felt like I backed down. I was really upset about it. What was that joke? What was the joke again?

I got a special needs cousin named Tina, and she got an STD. And when the whole family was like, Tina got an STD, I was like, Tina's fucking. That was the, to me, that was the bigger deal. I was so happy she was getting STD. I was like, hey, she ain't missing out. You know what I mean? I was so excited for her.

But in my, in my special, I said the word retarded. I didn't say special needs. I didn't get the email blast. Oh, it was just for saying retarded? Yeah, saying the word. Which, yeah. That's all it was. It had nothing to do with the joke.

Yeah. And then they, they came after me to the point where I had just got my reality show greenlit on BET. They were threatening to go after sponsors like McDonald's and shit like that. We're gonna tell them not to run ads. Basically they were like, we're gonna go after you for your TV show.

So I had to literally fly to DC and meet with four special needs people that were telling me how to write my jokes. And what did they say? How did they say? This is what they did. And they made sure they had the gamut, bro. They had a black woman, a black man, a white woman, a white man. And it was the whole gamut. It was, it was MS. It was the guy that looks like quirky from Life Goes On. It was the lady that you couldn't tell. They made sure I was cooked.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. When that motherfucker told me, I said, well, what am I supposed to do? And what did they say? Like, what were they saying? I said, well, what's funny? Okay. Wait, you said this? You said this. And I was like this. Said what's funny? This week You can look it up. Pull it up. Gary meets with the Special Olympics people.

Last week we were the darlings of the liberal media. This week Gary's doing retarded questions. Oh, you can't say that. Well done, but this is what Aries does. This is what Godfrey does. They're good at celebs. I'm good at special needs. So there you go.

You're just telling us a story. So they're telling you how to tell the joke to make it more. I told them, I said, I don't blame these four people. I mean, they all had people behind them that were like their people. I blame you. I said, you don't want them to be made fun of, which to me says I'm better than you. Yeah. If I don't make fun of you, I feel sorry for you. Amen. If I make fun of you, we're the same. We're the same. Make fun of me.

They would literally, they couldn't fathom, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I think a lot of times the protective parents are loved ones and they just, they see somebody who obviously is going through something very difficult and they're like, I just want to protect them from the evils of the world without realizing that maybe they would laugh at it as well.

That part. I think that's one of the beautiful things of the Love on the Spectrum show, to be honest. I don't know if you've seen it, which is like you, they showcase how funny they are intentionally and unintentionally and they show the family also laughing and it gives you this kind of like freedom to be like, Hey, okay, as long as we're not bullying these people. Yeah, it's funny. It's funny. They do funny shit. Showcasing the joy is like the most beautiful part. Yeah. I think the biggest issue, what I learned from it was, especially if you're a parent of a special needs kid,

where do you direct your anger? If I was, I'm with my wife, I didn't cheat. I've been faithful to her. I have a good job. I've done everything right that you say you're supposed to do in life. And I now have a special needs child. Who am I mad at? I can't be mad at life. And I now have a special needs child. Who am I mad at?

I can't be mad at God. I can't be mad at the child. There's this comedian that just told a special needs joke. So I'm mad at him. That's where my anger is directed. And I think that's where it comes from. It's not, there it is. There's the four.

Well, the one girl wouldn't get in the picture. But the little white dude told me how to tell my jokes. I need it. What? No, no, All my stories can be validated. I told some doozies today, but none of them are lies. I'll tell you that. Wow. So you're there with George Wallace, Michelle Obama, Shane Gillis, Sam Jay, George Wallace,

Sam Jay, and Korggi from Life Goes On. It was a fucking, it was a day. It was a day. Yeah, they flew me to DC. Wow. And I had, and Showtime took it out of my special. They took that joke out. But it was too late, I was already out there.

Wow. Wow. That kid is adorable, to be honest. And I literally was like, they was like, don't, you know, people were like, don't take it out, it's fucking art. I go, I go, bro, nobody's got notice. It's already out there on the internet. If Showtime takes it off their website,

and they're streamers. If it's gonna get my TV show, it's what it is. So you were able to do the show because of it. Yeah, that was the thing, because Showtime had my back, I will say. But they was like, whatever you want us to do. I said, sometimes we wanna fight just to win. And sometimes I'm like, I was like, I don't give a shit.

This is what I told them in the room. They didn't like this joke. I said, yo, it's 2016, that's special come out in 2013, and you're calling them slow. Fuck you Ben, man. Special been out for three years and now you're mad? But they're the slow ones. You're the slow ones. And they're not even watching it. There's no way the three of them will watch it.

No, one person watched it, made a blog or something, and then it just caught wildfire. There were actors, Tom Arnold kept DMing me, wanting to talk to me. I guess he has a special needs son. Oh no. There was another actor that I really liked He's in all these action movies. I guess he's and they they just go on these rants and they just you know, I'm going Oh my god, dude. Yeah, you never saw the joke. Yeah Gary we love you man. We appreciate you everybody go check out mint comedy. Check out Gary's new special no s Gary Owen no s Gary Owen, No S.

Gary Owen, No S. Black people put an S on everything. God bless you, man. Thank you so much. Yeah, this is awesome. Continue the success. Thank you, guys. Thank you, man.