Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Hakimi’s Wife Was RIGHT & Drake’s A.I. Music w/ Adam Rowe

Episode Date: April 18, 2023

What’s up people, y’all know Adam Rowe from his podcast “Have a Word” and his many comedy specials 0:00 UK and Turkey need to create a master race 03:27 English cuisine is just adding fries 0...4:56 Gordon Ramsey has gone soft 05:43 British Empire + The Beatles sold out 08:58 Liverpool are the Italians of the UK 10:49 Adam’s ranks ethnics + dumbo voters + Constitution is the Goat 15:48 Liverpool rioting + beefing with everyone + G checking bins 19:40 Everyone knew Paddy Pimblett was the truth 22:44 Scouse’s view on Russia - Ukraine + UK hates refugees 25:56 The sweetheart and the thief 33:45 Dr Catford is the greatest 40:03 KSI drama with the Stanis + Whites the best at racism 52:55 Saying the N word + shout out the Bangos 58:32 Poles are the Mexicans of UK + Wassup my J*p? 01:07:58 Black Alan the Taxi Driver 01:12:38 UK talking funny + dirty Scouse talk 01:16:41 Akaash backlash from Gujaratis 01:19:34 Adam loves country music + “I don’t believe White Christians” 01:22:14 Co-host Dan HATES country music until now 01:25:41 Adam loves fat MILKERS + CAKES 01:27:26 Have a Word might come to the US + UK Tour 01:37:04 Achraf Hakimi finessing + Soccer stars protection 01:45:20 AI - fun distraction or disruptive? 01:51:44 ChatGPT’s version of Adam’s comedy 01:53:10 Banning TikTok + Zuckerberg is our slave + Child Labour 02:00:42 Freedom to try + “Juicy” + next special 02:12:52 Edinburgh Fringe audience different to comedy fans

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There was some drama out there recently with KSI and the Sidemen. Yeah. The word, it is short for Pakistani. Yes. Isn't that racist? It is. Well, yeah. Well, maybe.
Starting point is 00:00:11 Maybe. Sorry. Can we also? French people are rude and stink. They are. Polish people wear a card for cheap. Yeah. Irish people wear a card for cheap and they're stupid.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Hakimi's wife filed for divorce. She goes to get half his money. Turns out it's filed under his mom's name. Fantastic. This is how you know she was pure. She never asked where the money was going. This isn't some gold digger. My mom would make bolognese when we were growing up.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Bolognese? Does that sound like a gay night out? Ball and AIDS? Ball and AIDS. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. Today, we are joined by rising comedic talent, absolutely hilarious gentleman. Some of you know him very well from his appearances here on Flagrant, but of course from his podcast, his comedy specials,
Starting point is 00:00:54 and just being a truly trailblazing individual out there in the UK. It's Adam Rowe, man. Hey! Adam Rowe, man. What's up, Adam? I wasn't ready for that introduction. I know, I know. It throws off comedians.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Like, comedians don't know how to handle compliments. Yeah, it's just not... Oh, shit, you're getting your teeth fixed and everything. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I take back everything I said. I thought this guy was, like, a real Liverpool scouser piece of shit, but you're coming up big. So, in Liverpool now, the thing with your teeth,
Starting point is 00:01:19 most people go to Turkey. Yes. Have you seen the Turkey teeth? You treat it like hair. So they shave it down to like pins and then they put like a... Can I tell you something
Starting point is 00:01:28 about Europe that really fucking bothers me? Yeah, go on. Is that you won't let Turkey into the European Union, but you all go there for the beaches, you go there for the hair,
Starting point is 00:01:38 you go over there for the teeth. It's like, fuck you guys, man. Do you think I run the EU? You fucking run it, man. You're the guy. Out of rope. There's nobody else in the Patreon that's making millions.
Starting point is 00:01:49 They keep bringing me on, Turkey wants to come in. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. They actually ran for the EU. No, no, no, no, no. They actually left the EU. There's a line between Turkey and Europe. That's what they're doing. But for real, man.
Starting point is 00:01:59 They left the EU so Turkey could get in, probably. That's probably why England did it. So that was a big part of the campaign for the people who wanted to leave. They were like, hey, Turkey's going to join. They deserve it. You know what they're like with their fucking hot women and straight teeth. So let's just fucking leave. Why doesn't Britain and Turkey create their own just master European conglomerate?
Starting point is 00:02:23 Because you both have everything that you need, right? You guys are bald. Your teeth are fucking jacked. You're pale, right? They're just covered in hair, right? And, well, I don't know. They're fat, too. But I'm just saying, bringing you guys together,
Starting point is 00:02:38 you get the pigment that you guys always needed, right? I'm all for it. I'm all for it. But if you can convince the racists to actually vote, because they just think everyone's... Isn't that racist?
Starting point is 00:02:49 It is. Well, yeah. Well, maybe. Maybe. Sorry. I mean, also, that was a good answer. That was a good answer.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Okay. So they don't like... But is it racism or is it, like, culturalism? Because in America, it's racism because we all
Starting point is 00:03:04 got the same culture. Okay. Like, you can be American and different color skin, and I just don't like you for that. You know what I mean? Whereas in Europe, it's at least like, everything's fucking kebab. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:18 Like, they just don't like your culture. But we want all their culture, we just don't want their fucking people. Well, that's on them. Don't make your culture better than you. Yeah, that's fair enough. I think what Britain has done, I think what the West, like America is a bit different,
Starting point is 00:03:30 but Britain in particular, we take food from all around the world. Because your food sucks. And then we add fries to it and we go, now that's English. That's fine, bro. I like that. I've never been for an Indian curry
Starting point is 00:03:42 and not had fries with it. Really? Ever. That blows my fucking mind. How does that make you feel, though? How does that make you feel? I don't mind it. Are they bastardizing your dish
Starting point is 00:03:51 or are they making it better? I don't mind it. When my mum would make bolognese... To be honest, my wife loves Indian food and loves fries. She would love England. White people make everything better.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's like minorities, you got the idea, but you just need some whites to mold it into something great. Yeah, branding. Yeah, just cut some of the potatoes up fry them
Starting point is 00:04:07 that's it when my mum would make bolognese when we were growing up and she was really good at it she would make a plate of fries to go
Starting point is 00:04:13 what would you like a gay night out bolognese bolognese bolognese bolognese San Francisco in the 80s
Starting point is 00:04:24 okay so she would make bolognese and she would make a plate of fries to go with She was in San Francisco in the 80s. Okay, so she would make bolognese, yeah. And she would make a plate of fries to go with the bolognese. That's good. Of course it's good. When a fry's bad. It makes everything better. And I hate how they look at you guys like, you don't know what the fuck you're doing with food.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I even say that with British people. Oh, they don't know what's going on with food. You've got the best cooking show on the planet. Which is? British Bake Off. Okay. And Gordon Ramsay. Gordon Ramsay, right? And fries with everything, food you got the best cooking show on the planet which is british bake-off okay and gordon ramsay gordon ramsay right and fries with everything which does make it better anytime you go out
Starting point is 00:04:50 on a date with a girl it could be your wife girlfriend doesn't matter she goes let's also get some fries to share totally gordon ramsay's gone off a cliff because he started doing tiktoks with his daughter what's wrong with that what's wrong with that because he's losing like he was the scary shouty like like guy, everyone was fucking, wow. It's a sexual? What is it, what kind of TikTok? Yeah, he's fucking his daughter on TikTok, yeah. It's weird it hasn't been taken down,
Starting point is 00:05:12 but they've got hundreds of thousands of followers. Is he criticizing her as he's doing it? Like body shaming her and shit like that? This is shit! This is, this is, cock the balls, you've got to cock the balls. It's a turducken for a reason. Do you guys have turducken out there?
Starting point is 00:05:27 No. Oh, this is where you put a turkey inside a duck. That's what they're going to call their new country with turkey. This is peak America right here. Yeah. What is it? It's a chicken inside a duck inside a turkey. Three birds.
Starting point is 00:05:38 How the fuck? Like, how do you struggle to get a chicken to be cooked to the right temperature? That's British of you. Yeah. Yeah, that's British. Bro, don't let them shame you, bro. Britain is really the second greatest empire ever.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Yeah, but... And you created the first best one. So it's like... Best one. Yeah. I'm just saying, you guys are all about it.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah. And you almost destroyed the next one that's coming in. Like, you guys saw it coming. You saw the Chinese rising and you're like, give them fucking opiate addictions, right?
Starting point is 00:06:04 Yeah. And it worked for a little bit. I'm giving you credit for everything British. Do you know what I mean? You know how black people take credit for like every great black guy?
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like LeBron dunks for the free throw line and black people are like, that was me. We did that. We was in the gym shooting the widows.
Starting point is 00:06:22 So I do that with scousers. I do that with people from Liverpool. Like the Beatles. Yeah, the Beatles. Paddy and Molly in the gym shooting. So I do that with scousers. I do that with people from Liverpool. Like the Beatles. Yeah, the Beatles, Paddy and Molly in the UFC. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Are the Beatles really from Liverpool? Yeah. So why don't they talk like y'all? Because they have to go away and also they're from
Starting point is 00:06:38 so what you guys don't understand over here is the amount of accents in the UK is crazy. And there's even- No, you're so different. I can-
Starting point is 00:06:49 What diversity? I can tell you where in Liverpool someone's from. Listen, I'm on this side. Yeah, why are you talking about this? What are you talking about? You're still there with the prize thing. That's what it is. I ain't no problem with the prize thing.
Starting point is 00:07:04 All right, guys. Your boy't no problem with the prize thing. All right, guys. Your boy's out there doing some shows again. I'm going to be at Gary V's VCon on May 19th. And then on May 20th, I'll be at the Hard Rock Live in Northern Indiana. That's Gary, Indiana, home of Michael Jackson. So, you know, we got to pay our respects, tongues out. And then I'll also be at the Pechanga Resort and Casino June 23rd in Temecula, California.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I believe that one's already sold out. But we'll see what we can do about some tickets for that one. And then, of course, Calgary. Calgary, the Great Outdoors Comedy Festival. Make sure you go get tickets for that. That's August 27th. And so you can get tickets at theandrewschultz.com.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I think we're going to be announcing a few more shows for this summer as we get warmed up and geared up for the next tour. So I'll let you guys know. Thank you guys so much
Starting point is 00:07:56 for your support as always. And I'll see you guys out there. Now, but you do have different accents every like 30 minutes. Less than that. I can tell you which area of Liverpool someone's from.
Starting point is 00:08:05 So the Beatles are all from South Liverpool, which is slower. But is South Liverpool also just like London? Because that's what they sound like, that they're from London. And I think it's a bunch of fucking horse shit that they're from Liverpool. They've moved around, they've been all over the world. There's some private school kids, bro. Just talk that shit. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yeah, that's what they've become. They're fucking billionaires. Their voice is gonna, you can't be a billionaire with this voice. You can't be going into meetings with the richest people in the world and be like,
Starting point is 00:08:31 how are we, lads? You alright? Do you want a fucking seat? We want to open up an Amazon factory. Like the Beatles talk a lot slower. It's, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:41 I'm getting on the bus. So they sold out? Is that what you're saying? Totally. None of them ever fucking came back. Paul McCartney come back quite a bit. John Lennon couldn't come back, I'm getting on the bus. So they sold out? Is that what you're saying? Totally. None of them ever fucking came back. Paul McCartney come back quite a bit. John Lennon couldn't come back because he got shot in the face.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Ringo's like, I'm never going back. Like, you know, they're idols in Liverpool because of what they did, but they didn't say so. How did Liverpool react when he got shot in his head?
Starting point is 00:09:01 I wasn't alive. You were alive for everything. Bro, you know everything in all of Liverpool's history and I need you to sit here and tell us. What was it like? I think people were
Starting point is 00:09:11 really fucking sad. Yeah, I think there was a few riots, I think. Do you think they rioted more then or when like the Sun reported that horrible thing about Liverpool or whatever? Oh, well, the Sun report
Starting point is 00:09:24 on the Hillsborough disaster is just, like, you can't buy the Sun newspaper in Liverpool. Like, a shopkeeper will tell you to get off the shop. So that's what I'm talking about, bro. Liverpool's a cocky, it's New York is much more similar to Liverpool than it is to London. You guys are like
Starting point is 00:09:39 the Italians of Great Britain. Yeah, and it's just like, if you give Liverpool a vote on independence, we would probably take it. Even though it would be, like, a disaster.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Catastrophic. Total disaster, like, economically. Yeah. I think Liverpool would be like, yeah, fuck, because Liverpool, as a people,
Starting point is 00:09:55 feel like totally disenfranchised from central Britain. Why does everybody give you guys a bad rap? Why do they ever say, like, you guys are just on the dole or whatever,
Starting point is 00:10:02 you're, like, lazy? Why do people say that about you? Fuck, you know that word, it's so funny. Bro, my family's Scottish, we've been on the dole or whatever you're like lazy why do people say that about that way it's so funny my family's scottish we've been on the dole for generations yeah so it's because liverpool gives itself an us against the world mentality and anyone who does that the world goes well fuck you then fuck you then yeah especially if you're in a socialist nation where everybody's supposed to be looking out for one another and then you've got this one little tiny part of it that's like but liverpool is probably the most socialist part of the uk
Starting point is 00:10:27 like certainly in ideology like scousers are like let's make sure everyone's okay yeah you can make money and become a huge success but let's tax those who do so that no one's fucking starving and a lot of the rest of the uk hate that england is quite a conservative country like generally speaking the cities aren't as they tend not to be over there. But in the countryside and stuff, they're all... Can you honestly rank the non-whites for me? Okay. In my order of how much I like them.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Yeah, yeah. Most of the law is up there. Are we talking to hang out with at a bar, to eat with, because it changes depending on the situation? We could go overall, but we could also get specific. Hang out at a bar. Let's start with that. This is actually really good. Hang out at a bar.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Be careful. You know what, though? To his credit, it's kind of not racist that he was like, but what am I doing with them? That's the least racist way to do it. It does make a difference. Like if I'm going on a gay bashing, I want some Jamaicans with me. So what would be your rank?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Because there's this immigrant problem in Europe that we don't really understand. Yeah. Right? Well, the people in Europe don't even fucking understand it. There's a really famous video from when after Brexit happened.
Starting point is 00:11:42 So Brexit was just England leaving the EU. And the next morning they were like, so sir, how did you vote yesterday? And he's like, yeah, I voted to leave. And they were like, so why did you? And he went, it's all about immigration. It's okay people coming in. And he's just racist.
Starting point is 00:11:55 He goes, it's okay people coming in from Poland and French. That's fair enough. But Africa, no. And that's why I voted to leave. You don't know what you're fucking doing. We haven't left Africa. We've stopped the French people coming. And he just walks off from the interview.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And that guy has got the same leverage with voting as someone who fucking knows what it's about. No, that's a problem. Not everybody should be allowed to vote. No, you should just have to vote. No, isn't that fire? I love that. It's so exciting.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Every time. Dude, the elections back in the day, think about how exciting they were. It's so funny. Like, are we going to have to free these people tomorrow? Like, that was every election. Like, you'd go to sleep like, I won't vote. Sorry, boys. It was probably better because there wasn't disparity in education,
Starting point is 00:12:42 disparity in everything that there is now, and everybody would vote probably back then because you had shit else to do. Right, right. I think elections are going to have to change in the next sort of 50 to 100 years, like completely, because as the internet gets bigger, it's stupid people who don't look into anything.
Starting point is 00:12:56 They just see a tweet and go, oh, that's a fact. And I'm going to take that as a fact and run with it as if it's a fact like that guy. I feel like you're passive aggressively describing our show. Yeah. I'm no better. I shouldn't be allowed. I'm not saying let me decide things right away.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I agree. I would be way on the back of the bus, like, let's put these guys on a fucking fairground ride and while we do the vote, I'm going on the rollercoaster. I'm not in the fucking... The crazy thing is if you actually had to, like, pass a test to be able to vote,
Starting point is 00:13:26 no one would vote because no one would go take that test. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? But the people who really want to would take it, sure. Those people are so gay.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yeah, of course they are. Like, people who, like, love politics. Yes, you should vote. No, because they care. They, like, know all the Constitution. They know all of it. The whole thing.
Starting point is 00:13:42 They're like, oh, this fucking... You know the first two and you out. Yeah, guns. You know the first two and the fifth wait what was oh yeah fifth I don't gotta say shit
Starting point is 00:13:49 and then why should I need to learn the rest of it I plead the fifth I should be allowed to say anything and then also I shouldn't say anything that's it
Starting point is 00:13:57 freedom and guns I have the freedom to say fuck all and if you wanna take that away I'm gonna shoot yeah that's all you need to know and also
Starting point is 00:14:03 this is important here I truly believe the constitution is the greatest document that has been put together by mankind and I know three sentences from it and that didn't hit me until right now
Starting point is 00:14:22 if you ask me how the constitution starts I would say four score and 12 years ago. Not even close. I want a drink. White kids. And white kids. There we go. The world is a vampire. Ask to knock, but there's nothing you can do about it.
Starting point is 00:14:40 So yeah, we don't really know what it is, but it is fire. I don't even know if we have one. I think you guys tried to dick ride. Yeah. Like after we got a constitution. We tried to take your one? You tried to dick ride. Everybody tries to dick ride.
Starting point is 00:14:50 You did like a cover constitution. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like when every country goes democratic, they try to dick ride and get a constitution. Yeah, yeah. We just tried to retweet your one. We were like, that one looks good enough. We'll just have that.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Iraq almost had one. Iraq almost had this. You know how many women got beaten reading it? And you've got to feel bad for them because they're so excited, right? There's like a new constitution. A virtue gaze. Anyway, where do you rank the Iraqi immigrants? I've got to go with who I hung out with.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Okay, go with who you hung out with. Who's the best, man? Who should we look for when we come to Liverpool? When you come to Liverpool? Yeah. I mean, you know, that's like playing... You're mainly only going to meet white people. Like, it's not that multicultural.
Starting point is 00:15:35 There's like 35 black guys, and they all just hang out together, and then the rest of us just go... You know what I mean? Do they... When you say hang out together, are they on the team? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Basketball court? There's a small bit of Liverpool called Toxics where the majority of the black guys from Liverpool live. And that's where, like, there was a lot of riots in the 80s because of racism and shit. Oh, really? And Liverpool knows how to riot when they fucking want to as well. Wait, they know how to get
Starting point is 00:16:01 it in? Oh, yeah, yeah. The Liverpool riots were fucking toxic. Really? Yeah. If you look at, they know how to get it in? Oh, yeah, yeah. The Liverpool riots were fucking toxic. Really? Yeah. If you look at the images of it, it looks like the whole city's on fire. It's great. It's great.
Starting point is 00:16:13 It's great now that it was back then and we can just look at it. Yeah. You know what I mean? When you see a picture of a disaster and you're like, do you know what? It's not good that it happened, but that's going to make a great patent.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Isn't that just every time you guys lose a soccer match? Yeah, pretty much pretty much wow wow that is crazy oh yeah they would fuck a shit up
Starting point is 00:16:29 but it's such a small town so like you know who's van you're fucking right no it's not that small that ain't shit to be honest with you it's like a million people
Starting point is 00:16:36 oh okay that's big enough okay okay okay because sometimes when I think of like what is that what is that area called Yorkshire yeah
Starting point is 00:16:43 is that where it's like Manchester so Manchester Leeds? Yorkshire? Yeah. Is that where it's like Manchester, Leeds? So, Yorkshire's a county. So, Leeds is in Yorkshire. You were there last year. Yeah. So, that's in Yorkshire. Leeds is one of the biggest cities there.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And then you've got Sheffield and Harrogate and York, obviously. Manchester's in Manchester, in Greater Manchester. Well, that makes sense. Liverpool's in Merseyside. Okay. Because it's the side of the River Mersey. Yeah. But Liverpool don't like everyone else from Merseyside.
Starting point is 00:17:11 So it seems like you guys have a lot of beef with the people around you. Yeah. And the people around you don't really like you guys. No, the people really close to Liverpool want to be Scousers. They want to be from Liverpool. So if you meet someone from, like, the whittle is the other side of the river. It's like people from Long Island say they're from New York,
Starting point is 00:17:29 and it's like, come on. That's exactly what it is. If you meet, they'll be like, oh, I'm from Liverpool, but if I'm an earshot, I've got to come over and fucking correct them, you know what I mean? Be like, say that again, slower, so I can pinpoint exactly where you're from. You're not from fucking Liverpool.
Starting point is 00:17:41 And one of the... So you will just G-check them on that? Oh, yeah, yeah. What color's your bin? Whoa! Whoa! Do you know the bin that you put in your trash bin? It is, it is.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Oh, my God. I thought you were talking about your nanny or something. You got a black nut? Yeah, you're in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoa, okay, so you guys have a specific colour bin in Liverpool. Yeah, it's purple. And all the neighboring counties are either maroon or black.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And if you're not purple, you're not from Liverpool. Yeah, that's color war, bro. That's your blood and blood relationship, bro. No, for real, I like that. How would you check if someone's a New Yorker? What school? I've seen this happen. They ask, what school did you go to?
Starting point is 00:18:22 And if you don't got a PS in front of a number, you're not from New York. Yeah, so it's like, I've seen this happen. They ask, what school did you go to? And if you don't got a PS in front of a number, you're not from New York. Yeah, so it's like... That's good. I've seen this happen. I saw them G-check each other on the street one time. Andrew came up to some random girl. She came to a show or something. I grew up here.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Oh, where'd you go? What school did you go to? Long time ago. Legit, like two years into comedy. Long years ago. Like two years into comedy. I don't know how she recognized me, to be honest with you. Two years into comedy.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Okay. You grew up, bro. You grew up into comedy. God years into comedy. I don't know how she recognized me, to be honest with you. Two years into comedy. Okay. Yeah, bro. You're into comedy. God damn, man. Yeah. We're on the street. It wasn't even an apartment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:51 But it was like, yeah. What school did you go to? You trying to say I can't pull something on the street? Yeah. I am trying to say two years into comedy, I can't pull something on the street? I am. That's the safer one to go with. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Fair enough. But yeah, it was like PS6. I didn't even know I was getting pussy back in the day, yo. PS6. Say what? PS6. PS6. He said it enough that fair enough. I didn't even know I was getting pussy back in the day. PS6? Say what? PS6? PS6? He's said it enough that I know.
Starting point is 00:19:09 He's g-checked enough people that I know. No, that's what we do. You go, like, where are you from? And then somebody goes, oh, I'm from New York. And then when you kind of feel like they're not, you say it curiously. You go, oh, shit, where did you go to high school? As if we might know the same people.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And they're like, oh, well, actually from Maine, but then I've been here 10 years. See, the accent is so obvious with Liverpool that if I heard someone go, I'm from Liverpool,
Starting point is 00:19:32 I'd be like, no, you're not. You're not. You're from the Willow or Southport or St. Helens which are like the satellite towns.
Starting point is 00:19:38 You'll just know. And then, where do you go to schools? Like if someone is from Liverpool, that's how you'll sort of, that's the next, but like we already know whether they are or not, that's the next, but like we already know
Starting point is 00:19:45 whether they are or not. That's the next. And like my school produced a lot of like people like Steven Gerrard went to my school. Paddy, the baddie Pimblitt went to my school.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Hey! Shout out to Paddy, bro. Yeah, he was like three years below me. Yeah? Oh, really? Did you guys ever tussle? Are you fucking crazy?
Starting point is 00:20:00 Like people knew when he was in school that he was... That dude? Yeah, he was just a guy, like, he was the guy who could fight. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, like, people, like, everyone knew. Like, there's a lot of fight.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I went to an all-boys school. Yeah. So there's always a lot of fight in any way. And then every year, there's, like, you know, that's the guy. That guy's great. Yeah. That guy's great. And then he channeled it into MMA when he was, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah, I mean, he's killing it. This is in high school? No way. Yeah, apparently. This is footage of him just fighting in the bathrooms in high school. Oh, wow. He's fucking this guy up. And you're asking me, did I have a tussle?
Starting point is 00:20:36 Bro, I mean, is that your bathroom? Who's this other dude? That's his school bathroom, yeah. Who's this other dude just taking shots? I mean. All right. He's a tough son of a bitch. I bet.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I mean, Paddy's a professional UFC fighter. Oh, wait a minute. Oh, fuck. Wait, Paddy's a blonde, right? Yeah. Oh, he'd get fucked up now, though.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Son, this kid's got arches and red sweats. Do you know what's fucking crazy about this? I've seen this video at the time, and this is the first time I've seen it since.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Hold on, hold on. I remember this video going around school. That's the end of the video. No, it's 37 seconds and it's 39. You dumbass. Yo, Mark is a hater, son. Mark is a, I knew Mark was a hater. No, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Early stoppage. Patty, you need to know that there's a hater on the podcast. It was an early stoppage. Mark and Vinny, only cute motherfucker with long hair. So you take the one video where Patty gets dropped by some kid in high school and then you stop it
Starting point is 00:21:28 two seconds before he actually annihilates him. He didn't tell me to keep going. I didn't know. I smell hate on this for an early stop. Because you could see him
Starting point is 00:21:35 catching him. Right? You could see it. And then I go, keep playing. He goes, oh, that's the end of the video. Oh,
Starting point is 00:21:39 before the amazing knockout. That guy was from Manchester. I was rooting for him. I was rooting for the other guy. Yo, shout out to Patty, but he does get caught, bro. He still gets caught. He may work on that defense. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 But he knows that as well. He does. Yeah. Like, if you watch his recent things, he's like, he's, because after that last fight, he was very, like, bullish in the interviews. He's like, fuck that guy. I definitely won. And I think he's looked at it and gone, oh, I was a bit sloppy there.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah. But, like, look what he's done in, like, a couple of years in the UFC. Bro, it's unbelievable what he's looked at it and gone, oh, I was a bit sloppy there. Yeah. But look what he's done in a couple of years in the UFC. Bro, it's unbelievable what he's done. He's incredibly charismatic and he understands the game and he plays into the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:13 He understands how to build a personality and he understands that the more that people root for him, the more money he's going to make in the UFC. Totally. And a big part of that as well
Starting point is 00:22:23 is Liverpool. Liverpool's a very parochial city, so having a full city, it's like- What does that word mean? It means like get behind their own. Okay, got it. Like you're from Liverpool, we're going to back you. Yeah. And you know, you still have a few haters, and once you get really big, like people who
Starting point is 00:22:37 are jealous, like, oh, fuck that guy, I don't like him, or whatever. But in general, Liverpool is a, he's from here, he's doing well, we're all behind him. Yo, I want to learn more about like what's going on in Europe right now. So how do you guys feel about the Russia-Ukraine thing? What's the sentiment out there? Specifically Liverpool. I like to just laugh in my guy's face like that. Do you know if you'd have just paused you before you, you know when we went from Paddy Pimblick then?
Starting point is 00:23:06 If you could just pause and go, right, here's a multiple choice of what... Where is Andrew going next? It was Paddy's haircut. It reminded me of Russia for some reason. And then I just went, yeah. Because Americans don't care anymore. It's kind of sad, but we've just kind of moved on entirely.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Yeah, people aren't really talking about it anymore. Really? Yeah. But it's right over there. But that's so far away. Is it? It just is. It's so far away.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Yeah. The funniest thing I can tell you about that is, so one of our producers on our podcast, his name's Finn, he's from a place in North Wales
Starting point is 00:23:41 called Rhyl, right? Uh-huh. It's about an hour and 20 from Liverpool. Yeah. And like North Wales, there's really, right? It's about an hour and 20 from Liverpool. Yeah. And like North Wales, there's really beautiful parts of it, but a lot of it
Starting point is 00:23:48 is just a fucking shithole. Yeah. And there was a Ukrainian refugee who got put in Rhyl. Oh, wait a minute. And she went home. No.
Starting point is 00:23:58 She said, fuck this, I'm going back. She went back. Why? Because Rhyl is shit. Because war-torn Ukraine is up-grade on Rhy back. She went back. Why? Because real is shit. Because war's on Ukraine. It's better than Wales.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Wow. Holy fuck. Wow. Real it's called? Real. R-H-Y-L. Or real. If you're from Wales and you want to keep that language alive. Which most people don't.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Okay, so you guys got a bunch of refugees. Yeah. And are the days of looking and caring for them over? Is it kind of an annoyance now? I think what people expected was... You know, like when your family visits, it's like, oh, it's great to see you, and then two weeks later, you're like...
Starting point is 00:24:39 In the guest room bag. Yeah. I also think a lot of people expected them to just be really hot women. And it was just good. I think that's why it was so accepted that, like, they were like, what, there's some Ukrainians who need some shelter. I've got a double bed and she is welcoming me.
Starting point is 00:24:57 You read that story about the guy who took in the Ukrainian refugee then they became a couple, he divorced his wife or left his girl or something like that. But then the Ukrainian woman left him and now he's single again. But like, that's what, people were like, you know what,
Starting point is 00:25:09 because like, Britain has got a problem like as a country where like, the conservatives in the country are like, we don't want any refugees. That's a big part
Starting point is 00:25:17 of why they left the EU. And it's like, no, no, no more immigration, no one from Syria, no one from Turkey, no one from any of these fucking war, no, no, no, no, from Turkey no one from any of these fucking war
Starting point is 00:25:25 no no no that's their problem it's not our problem and then it was like we need to put some Ukrainian people up and people were like you know what
Starting point is 00:25:31 let's give this one a go yeah it's just women and children yeah they were very specific who was coming over I will have the women you know the children
Starting point is 00:25:40 can be in the kennel with the dog yeah did anybody get a hot one the guy who left his wife did anybody get a hot one the guy who left his wife for one she was hot but then
Starting point is 00:25:49 she's obviously got bored of him yeah would you take in any I would yeah I've got a spare I've got two spare rooms wait you're single now
Starting point is 00:25:56 or are you already I've got a partner yeah already yeah fuck man you like stay you're like Pam Anderson you just stay
Starting point is 00:26:04 with a boyfriend well girlfriend I was single for like nearly a year yeah yeah and then I started
Starting point is 00:26:10 seeing someone and it's gone quite well so we just sort of okay that's what you said last time though so last time you were here
Starting point is 00:26:16 yeah yeah thanks to us you got out of a bad relationship really I think absolutely was not thanks to you
Starting point is 00:26:21 I think it was our we were the reason yeah yeah yeah you took me to one side and you were like there's something bad about thanks to you. I think it was us. We were the reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You took me to one side and you were like, there's something bad about this. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I sense it. Can I be honest? Can I be completely honest? Yeah. I didn't know the difference between the last girl and the girl before that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I thought they were the same girl. No. So a few years ago when we first come over here. I'm being honest because we went out to go have like lunch together.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Breakfast, yeah, yeah. And it was the new one. No, no, no no no so when did i meet the new one when i first come over i think it was 2018 yeah i met you for breakfast and this is what's really funny right so like i don't know whether people know the way me and you met and sort of became acquainted i was watching your videos as well as a comic big fan of comedy and I messaged you and was like I'm coming to your show in London
Starting point is 00:27:08 let me know if you need an opener on the day you're like yeah come and do it so I've been watching your stuff I've always got like comedy on around the house when I'm just and the girl I was with
Starting point is 00:27:16 when I came over the first time before she met you she fucking hated you she fucking hated you wait why do you know why because of
Starting point is 00:27:27 do you not know why because I'm curious I'm curious because of like his style of comedy which is abrasive and confrontational and stuff
Starting point is 00:27:33 and she was just like it's offensive I don't fucking like it and I was like okay cool and then we landed in New York and I text you
Starting point is 00:27:40 and you're like right let's go for breakfast tomorrow that was my first morning in New York so we wake up and she goes she goes where you going and I was like oh I'm let's go for breakfast tomorrow. That was my first morning in New York. Yeah. So we wake up and she goes, she goes, where are you going?
Starting point is 00:27:46 I was like, oh, I'm going to meet Andrew for some breakfast. And she goes, oh, can I come? I don't want you to just be leaving on the first morning in New York. I was like, I'm sure it'll be fine, come down. And she left that breakfast and it was so funny
Starting point is 00:27:59 because she had this look on her face as we left and she was like, I feel really bad. And I was like, why? She went, it's so nice. Because like in comedy, like a lot of comedians can be a bit rude when you, with your partner.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Like, they'll like, if your partner's there, they're just talking to you, like talking sharp, talking about comedy. And you just didn't do that. And you were just like,
Starting point is 00:28:19 you were asking her questions more than you were even asking me questions, just getting it. And she was like, he's giving me more attention than any of your friends that have met me, like from back home. She's like, I feel really, really bad about it.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I liked her. Yeah. And then I thought she stole from you because I confused them. And I was like, that rotten bitch. That wasn't it. So me and her, like we just got to a point where we were like,
Starting point is 00:28:39 we're not, like we're too different. But she was really sweet. She was great. I haven't got a bad word to say about that girl at all. She's a lovely girl. So then next girl the girl the girl i was with last time yeah yeah so on the my latest special which is called juicy yeah yeah is one long story and it's about the breakup with the girl i was here with last time but i stole from you yeah can i just say one legal reasons yeah yeah it's it's a work, the special is a work of fiction.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I have to say that. It didn't really happen. This is all legend. Okay, can I just say one thing that was really funny? Yeah. Okay, from the special. And I don't want to seem like
Starting point is 00:29:13 it's given away, but I think it would make people want to go see it. So one of the things that she stole This is great. is she bought his podcast merch
Starting point is 00:29:23 With my money. With his money. Okay, it doesn't seem that bad. Here's the funny thing. He sends out all the merch himself. So he went under their bed, took out the hoodie, packaged it, put the shipping label on it. Where did it go? To her mom's house.
Starting point is 00:29:44 And you didn't know? I just, like, I'm not concentrating. I'm just putting labels and that one's going over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, just amazing. But why?
Starting point is 00:29:52 What she stole was so, it wasn't like the biggest deal. The biggest deal was the betrayal. But like, when you, if you watch the special and find out the full extent of it and what she did and when and how and why,
Starting point is 00:30:04 you're like, this is just fucking total self-sabotage and crazy. But the special's find out the full extent of it and what she did and when and how and why, you're like, this is just fucking total self-sabotage and crazy. But the special's fictitious. Yeah, of course. I have a merch. Why the merch? I don't get that. I can give you a number if you'd like to ask. Have you asked her about it? Obviously. So when we were
Starting point is 00:30:20 over here, this is in the first five minutes of the special. So we land in New York. We go and have a few... Because we landed at like five, is in the first five minutes of the special. So we land in New York. We go and have a few drinks. Because we landed at like five. So by the time we threw JFK into Manhattan, it's eight o'clock.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And we're a bit tired, but I was like, let's go and get a few drinks and something to eat. We'll go to sleep about midnight and then you've beat the jet lag. Like we'll just get up at a reasonable time. And we're having one last drink. And I've just,
Starting point is 00:30:43 I do now, but like I've got really bad things for just not checking my bank now that I know it's okay I just don't look at it a lot but something made me check it and I was like
Starting point is 00:30:52 at the top there was just a payment I didn't recognise and I was like that's weird I don't recognise that payment I don't know what that's for I don't shop there and if she'd have reacted
Starting point is 00:31:02 any differently she'd still be getting away with it now if we because if she'd have just gone oh you she'd still be getting away with it now. Because if she'd have just gone, oh, you need to look into that, I'm so like, eh.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I'd have just not looked into it, but the panic in her, because she went, oh, that is weird. Yeah, that's weird. That's where I got my tracksuit from. And then it took a few moments for me to piece it together, but once I pieced it together, but I kept it, like, she stayed with me for a week in New York because I was like, we'll deal with this.
Starting point is 00:31:27 But you would have bought her a tracksuit, right? Totally. Like, especially when she bought it. I was watching a Liverpool game. Like, if I'm watching a Liverpool game, if my girlfriend wants anything, that's the time to ask me because I will give her anything to make her shut the fuck up. Just, what do you want?
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me get back to you. It's like when you give a kid an iPad. Yeah, yeah, just fuck off. Just go over there and ruin your eyes and let me just watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, none of it made sense
Starting point is 00:31:56 and that's what made the breakup very easy because it wasn't... Did she ever ask you for things that she would... Totally. So she felt comfortable asking you to buy her shit and then also just went behind your back? Totally. So she felt comfortable asking you to buy her shit. Totally. And then also just went behind your back.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Totally. What a weird thing. It's so fucking strange. Because once you're married, they just spend your money all the time. Totally. It's just part of it.
Starting point is 00:32:13 But like, she knew she could spend the money for like reasonable stuff. It's actually their money. They say that. They often, they go,
Starting point is 00:32:22 yeah, our money. They'd be like, should we buy this? And you go, yeah, we should. What'll be like, should we buy this? And you go, yeah, we should. What is the end game of saying no? They divorce you and then take half your shit anyway. It's their money. It's cheaper to give them everything they want.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Give them all. 100%. Give them all. Buy the house. At least I get to live here. Yeah. This is good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:39 It wasn't the fact that she wanted stuff or took it. It was the fact she lied about it. Why lie? It's such fact she lied about it. Why lie? It's such an odd thing. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense, and that's why it was ripe for comedy, I think. Oh, it's great.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I mean, the story's hilarious. And how much money in total do you think? I think he says in the... So it was about 4,000 in total. With everything that she owed me. That was sort of the rough, fictitious figure. Gotcha. That you know.
Starting point is 00:33:07 That I know. I mean, she probably just didn't start with the tracksuit. Well, she didn't start with the tracksuit. She started by getting her dog a birthday cake.
Starting point is 00:33:20 True skeleton. What? Her dog a birthday cake? Did she get you a birthday cake? because that's where i'd be upset she actually did so that was like a really sad who's caused more when we got i haven't looked into it because i don't want to kill myself when we got back from new york it was my 30th birthday party i mean yeah so she she was like i've got this cake for you and i was like i don't fucking like i. I was so angry.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Okay, I'm going to go a different direction because I have to say this before I forget. There's a moment from your podcast. You have a great podcast. I have a word podcast. Thank you. Hilarious. I see a lot of these clips and there's one specific moment that I might have to send to Mark so he can bring it up. I have to know if this is true
Starting point is 00:34:04 or not. Okay. It is the moment about the guy who has an autistic... We spoke about this last time I was here, yeah. We did? Yeah. We talked about it on the pod? Yeah. Because he was, like, made up. Jamie, who you're talking
Starting point is 00:34:19 about, he was like, oh, I watched your episode of Flagrant and... Did I ask you if it really happened? I'm not sure. Wait, did you tell me the story or did we watch it? I don't think we watched it, but you brought it up. This is, I mean, I think about this regularly. Like, it is true. Is it this one?
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yeah. Every night my brother beats me up. Like, batters me. Yeah, well, it's artistic and it's part of his routine. Every night my brother beats me up. Like, batters me. What? Yeah, well, he's autistic and it's part of his routine. But he does it as a character called Dr. Cat. It's quite menacing. What time of night?
Starting point is 00:35:06 I'll send... Nine o'clock every night. Do you get twatted? Yeah, that's why I don't eat, because he punches me in the stomach and all that. So, he puts me mum's mint green dressing gown on, underpants on his head, and then...
Starting point is 00:35:23 But he'll phone me during the day, and he'll go, oh, your appointment's at nine and then he'll come up and he has like a clicking pen and that's like
Starting point is 00:35:34 the needle alright patient and sedates me and then he'll have like kitchen tongs and nips up there
Starting point is 00:35:43 hits me with a wooden spoon but all the while he's got like a Joel Hart monitor and I do I do losing him
Starting point is 00:35:53 and he just jumps up and I'm like fucking he goes right you don't know but my mum just goes but my mum just called...
Starting point is 00:36:10 What my mum just called his routine. Routine's important for autistic people. So if I gig, like a few nights in a row, it's fucking... Oh, it has a build up? It's like hangovers you're constantly drinking yeah and when you is he a licensed
Starting point is 00:36:29 practitioner no no just making sure he plays his other thing is he plays he watches like
Starting point is 00:36:37 people having the driving test online but on his day off he'll drive to the test centre and watch people get the results
Starting point is 00:36:45 you'll see the disappointment of relations so he's what's he called i sort of get that second one, you know. I don't get the first one. Fuss, fuss, fuss. I'm not going to lie, bro. Waiting at the testing centre for the driver's licence is fire. And like every Vietnamese person walks out just going... Bro!
Starting point is 00:37:23 Have you met the dude? The testing dude? No, I'm not sure. I feel like I would definitely know for sure. bro oh fuck have you met the dude the autistic dude yeah I think no I'm not sure I feel like I would definitely know for sure I don't think so no but that is our
Starting point is 00:37:31 that clip is like it did like a couple of million views when we uploaded it yeah but like that's being uploaded by loads of meme pages
Starting point is 00:37:39 that's the millions and millions of views and Jamie who's like one of the soundest guys I mean he's a complete record complete fuck up
Starting point is 00:37:47 it's launched that clip has launched his career yeah he's a stand up as well so he's a stand up and he'd been doing stand up maybe
Starting point is 00:37:56 seven years when he'd come on that was a couple of years ago now and he that clip went mad viral yeah
Starting point is 00:38:04 and so he started his own podcast the comedy club in in Liverpool my home club And that clip went mad viral. Yeah. And so he started his own podcast, the comedy club in Liverpool, my home club, Hot Water Comedy Club. Yeah. They started their own podcast, the Hot Water Green Room.
Starting point is 00:38:14 He's one of the hosts of it. Gotcha. That's doing really well. Jamie's just announced his first UK tour. Oh, wow. Today, or the other day. And his hometown sold out. Does he tell that story as part of the act? I don't think he wants to,
Starting point is 00:38:26 because everyone who's coming to see him has seen it. Yeah, that's a great idea to not give them what they want. Do you think we'd stand up, though, that the audience don't want to see something twice? Yes, 100%. Brian Regan, what will happen is after his show, people will call out bits and stories
Starting point is 00:38:46 I think that's a good way to do it to do your show go on for your encore and go right watch one of you also stories have a different thing like stories
Starting point is 00:38:54 have a different kind of attention span the same way that you can watch a movie again if you're getting into a story after watching him tell that to you guys
Starting point is 00:39:01 I want to see him tell that in front of an audience because I want to see them laugh at it for the first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I was looking
Starting point is 00:39:07 at Alex watch it because I was going, oh, wow, he doesn't know what's happening. It's hilarious. Yeah, so I kind of like, I want to like bring friends to go see that.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Also, his stand-up is so different to that. Oh. Like, he's very loud and he will get amongst the audience and be like this far from someone's face.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Oh, wow. It would be quite a change of pace for him. He turns into his brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He does a big Dr. Cass. What time is it? Pass your test! Can you drive?
Starting point is 00:39:34 Every one of his shows should be at 9 o'clock. Yeah. Every single one. But Jamie's great. You guys are blowing up out there, man. Yeah, man. He co-hosted with me last week. Dan, who I co-host with regularly,
Starting point is 00:39:46 Dan had a week off, and Jamie coming in was co-hosting. Like, normally when it's me and Dan, it's back and forth, and often I play the filter, Dan playing the straight man on the show, but when Jamie's co-hosting, it's like you just press play
Starting point is 00:39:58 and just sit back and just go. Just let her rip. Yeah, fucking rip. Just make the episode, Jamie. There was some drama out there recently with I think it was KSI and the Sidemen
Starting point is 00:40:11 and the word that is short for Pakistani yes Pak can't say anything else just one syllable it is weird I don't know what is your take on that in America I don't think that has the same sting Can't say anything else. Just one syllable. It is weird.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I don't know. What is your take on that? In America, I don't think that that has the same sting. No, but in the UK, it's a big thing. Why? Can you explain that? Because, obviously, with the N-word, it's tied to slavery and stuff like that. It's also its own word. It's not short for something else.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah, but it's not used. It's not like, if it was ever It's not short for something else. Yeah, but, like, it's not used. It's not like, if it was ever used as just, like, short for something. Yeah. Or like, you know, I'm with my friend. He's a pack, whatever. Yeah. Then that would be totally different. It is only ever used with venom and malice.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Oh, really? It's used to bully anyone of South Asian descent. That's all it's used to bully anyone of south asian descent that's all it's for it's not used in an affectionate or like normal way it's used to to upset people shut up you're a go away you're a you smelly like it's right but isn't that more indicative of like the racism that exists there not like just making a word smaller like the British are also Brits yeah totally but like you just make things smaller no one's like you fucking Brit
Starting point is 00:41:32 people well the fucking is doing the heavy lifting yeah there's a comic from the UK who's got a routine about the web we're talking about yeah isn't it crazy like I feel so like neutered not even be able to say this word because it doesn't have that sting here.
Starting point is 00:41:46 As far as I'm concerned, I mean, we had a guy who was Pakistani working for us, Vala, and I don't even think, I don't want to speak for him right now, but, like, I don't think
Starting point is 00:41:54 he ever reacted like that and he was, like, from Pakistan. Yeah, totally. But, like, for example, if Vala, or even if Akash lived in the UK, he'd have heard that word
Starting point is 00:42:04 every day. Just don't ever call me Pakistani. That's his n-word. Yeah, totally. Pakistani's worse than the abbreviation because you're going through and saying the whole thing. Because it's just short for the word. So the funniest story I can tell you about this,
Starting point is 00:42:16 there's another comic who lives in the UK now. His name's Thomas Green. He's actually from Australia. Right. And when he comes to the UK to subsidize being a stand-up, he was a teacher. And he he comes to the UK to subsidize being a stand-up, he was a teacher. And he's teaching in Nottingham. And he just didn't know
Starting point is 00:42:31 about the way, he's got the exact same relationship with it that you have. It's just short for it, right? So, and in Australia, it's used all the time. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It's like, and I don't want to interrupt the story, but I even had that bit about the word tranny back in the day. So it was like transgender tranny, grandmother, granny, Andrew, Andy. Like this is just what we do with words. Yeah. Now I understand that everybody just had like hatred and venom towards a group of people that weren't even the right group. You would call Indians that as well. Yeah. But it's just very hard to, I don't know. It's very, I feel like right now,
Starting point is 00:43:05 everybody wants their N word. Yeah. Like every group wants their N word because there's a lot of power in having that. Cause you get to silence people. Yeah. There's Codam Sand being offended. Of course. Yeah. You get to make people publicly apologize. Yeah. You know what I mean? And, um, the implication though, is when you take a word that might not have that venom and malice associated with it or that person might. Nobody says, nobody that's not black is going to say the N-word, especially white people. White people are really the only ones not allowed to say it. And when they're saying it, like if you're calling somebody that, if there's not like a my in front of it, you know what you mean. There's no confusion.
Starting point is 00:43:42 My is also wild if it's white. Here's the thing. If you were to say. I would no confusion. My is also wild if it's white. Here's the thing. If you were to say... What would you rather? If you were to say... Neither is yes. That's the only N-word you're allowed to say. Neither is yes.
Starting point is 00:43:55 If you were to say the way we're talking about now, the people who are upset with KSI would not be upset with you. Because we don't have the... Because you don't have it. Historical context. The reason KSI said it on his comedy panel show is because
Starting point is 00:44:07 it's offensive. Because of the way that it is. That's why he's giggling like a schoolgirl when he does it. It's like the... What is it? Tizzed out or something like that? Remember the word? Spaz. Dude, spaz in America doesn't mean retarded or whatever it means for you guys. What does it
Starting point is 00:44:24 mean? It means a kid that had too much sugar. Like, that's not how we imagine it. We literally use it as some kid who's hyped up. Like, if you're a rapper and you kill a verse, that got spazzed on that. Yeah, yeah, but we have that as well. But again, it's the malice and the intent with which it's used. Calling someone a spaz is just, it means spastic.
Starting point is 00:44:40 So you're saying KSI... But what does spastic mean, autistic? No, spastic is like an old medical word for like people with fucked up legs. What? People with fucked up legs? Yeah, I don't think I even saw it coming. It has nothing to do with their mental ability?
Starting point is 00:44:58 No, spastic isn't like brain problems. It's a cripple. Yeah, it's a cripple. A spaz is a cripple. It kind of makes a cripple. A spaz is a cripple. It kind of makes sense if you think about it. You fucking spaz. I don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Why does it make sense? It doesn't make sense at all. I don't believe it. If you were to be playing football or soccer and you missed the goal, you fucking spaz because you can't
Starting point is 00:45:18 use your legs properly. We've never used it physically in America, I don't think. No. I've never heard anybody call someone a spaz because of how they are physically. No. But the word case I got in trouble for, so my never heard anybody call someone a spaz because of how they are physically. No.
Starting point is 00:45:25 But the word case I got in trouble for. So my mate Thomas, he's a teacher, he's from Australia, where like on Australian TV they have ads which are, it's the Paks are coming
Starting point is 00:45:35 and it's cricket. Like the Pakistanis are coming for the cricket game. So to him it's just a normal everyday word. And he's teaching in Nottingham and this kid puts his hand up and goes, sir, he's just a normal everyday word and he's teaching in Nottingham and this kid puts his hand up and goes
Starting point is 00:45:47 sir he's just called me P-A-K-I and Thomas looked at this Asian kid in the eye and went so you are one laughter laughter I don't get it
Starting point is 00:46:04 because he is Pakistani and that's short for Pakistani we don't know that for a fact the N word is not synonymous with black it's not short with black, it stands for slavery you see what I'm saying? but like Pakistani
Starting point is 00:46:18 here's how bad can I call them Stanis? you can give it a go you can give it a go. I'm just saying. You can give it a go. In America, we're American. Here's how bad the payoff is a race.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I don't understand. It depends what you're doing to them when you say Stani. I love Stanis. All right. That's okay. I love Stanis. They're my favorite people.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Kazakh Stanis. I love Kazakh Stanis. I love Tajik Stanis. I love all the Stanis. Tajik Stanis. All the Stanis. Stanis are great people. Here's the difference I love all the Stanis, Tajikistanis, all the Stanis. Stanis are great people. Here's the difference with the N-word also.
Starting point is 00:46:48 The N-word, not only is it tied to slavery, it was the offensive term then. There was another term that wasn't offensive back then, oh, another N-word, lighter, N-word light. The N-word was offensive back then. We had slaves. I still wanna degrade you. So it was offensive 200 years ago
Starting point is 00:47:06 when we didn't even see black people as people. It's also with Norton. It's not part of the whole word. You can't make part of a word bad. It comes from Negra, doesn't it? It comes from Negra. Yeah, the Portuguese term for black.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Yeah, but Americans don't speak Portuguese. So they were just like, oh, that means slave. Okay, that's slave. Totally. And it's also a different version of the word. The spelling is different.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Everything's different. The way you say it is different, right? If this was a different word, which it's not, it's half of what they fucking are in terms of the country they come from.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I just don't understand it. I can't understand it. Well, like, homo's kind of offensive. Not as offensive. What the hell is it? If you go to a gay guy and you're like, you homo? You think he's gonna be all people's homo? I just don't understand it. I can't understand it. Homo is kind of offensive. Not as offensive. What? How is it? If you go to a gay guy, you're like, you homo?
Starting point is 00:47:47 You think he's going to be happy about that? No, if you go, are you homo? I'm hetero. Are you homo? Mm-hmm. You are homo. But then the intent is okay. You are a homo.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Then the intent is bad. Well, yeah, don't say that. Why are you pointing at me when you said it? If you're a dirty, ball-licking homo. Okay, see, that's where. The dirty ball-licking is doing the heavy lifting in that sentence. But homo is not bad. I would actually tell homos, get over that shit.
Starting point is 00:48:12 You are a homo. I'm a hetero. You're a homo. Why is that offensive? It's what you are. Go eat your ballin' aids and get over it. There it is. I thought, like, you were a homo.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Stop pointing at me. I love that he's just pointing at me. I want to take you to a largely South Asian area of the UK and watch you have this conversation with these people. Let me think on that. I'm a cock and you're a... Nah, they're going to acid you right in the face. Do the Pakistanis get down like that right in the face, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Do the Pakistanis get down like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to fuck with them at all. Yeah. Well, fuck it, eh? It's also, like, to be totally fair. It's contextual, is your point, and your point is KSI contextually was using it in an offensive way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The word in and of itself does not necessarily have stink.
Starting point is 00:49:03 I think there probably is a way to say it. It's not taken as seriously as the M-word. Okay. It's not. Yo, don't let white people make a part of the country you're from,
Starting point is 00:49:13 which you should be proud of, offensive. White people just took away your country from you. That's fucking crazy. Yo, it's like, it's like if somebody, if literally,
Starting point is 00:49:24 if somebody goes, if you would make fun of the people from the United States's like if somebody, if literally if somebody goes, if you would make fun of the people from the United States, like if other people, and they were like, oh yeah, what do you got? If you literally just called us, we're from the United States of America, and you guys are like, yeah, he's Americans, fucking Americans, I'm not going to let you take away, I am
Starting point is 00:49:40 American. That's a great thing, I'm proud of that, and I love that. But Pakistanis will also still say that word as well. They'll call themselves where they, yeah, you've fucked with the P-A-K-I's. Because they know the intent. Bro, don't let white people take away your country from you. Okay. I won't.
Starting point is 00:49:58 We're stopping them from coming in here. That's why I didn't want to break it. What if they didn't call them P-A-K-I's and they called them Pakistanis in the exact same way? Now they just can't say the country they're from? No, well... What do we do then? Yeah, there'd still be beef.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Yeah. There'd still be like, you fucking... Beef's not a problem for Pakistanis. Beef's a problem for any of us. That's a very good point. Very good point. Very, very good point. But the word has just become its own thing.
Starting point is 00:50:26 It's become its own problem. It's not short for that word anymore. Yeah, but that's because y'all are racist. It's not because the word is bad. Yo, white people are devious, bro. They have you thinking your own country is offensive. That is next level racism. You're the best at racism.
Starting point is 00:50:40 They got you thinking your own country is something bad to say. You got to take that back from white people, bro. There's also like, there's a context. I would rename the country. And then just watch them shorten that? That's it. What would I name it? What?
Starting point is 00:50:57 What would I rename it to? Yeah, yeah. Come on. You can't say that. You can't say that. You can't say that. I mean, we're going to bleep the whole thing out. But, so every corner shop in the UK is often run by someone from South Asian descent.
Starting point is 00:51:15 And they are called P.A.K.I. shops. So my dad will say, I'm going to the pack shop. And he doesn't mean it offensively. Is that offensive to people? Yeah, because they're just like, it's now tied to the word. But you are right, it's become more of an issue in
Starting point is 00:51:31 recent times because of the currency. Everybody wants their word. Like, white girls trying to do it with Karen, like, shut up. Like, everybody wants their word where if you, like, say it, it's offensive, and now you can silence somebody, and there's just, like, power and currency in that. But, nah, there's one word you can't say. there's just like power and currency in that but nah there's one word
Starting point is 00:51:46 you can't say we all know what the fuck it is what is it? yeah got it Al now is your time now is your time I can't say it
Starting point is 00:51:54 I can't say it don't look at me like don't do it don't do it you had a grin to your mouth yeah he was way too excited I gave you a hot potato
Starting point is 00:52:02 right there bro say the whole context absolutely no context that you would say that is there no context where you can say the N-word? You personally would say the N-word. Is there any situation in which you would say it, apart from when you're singing alone in the car? You're saying around people, when would I say it? Is there any, like...
Starting point is 00:52:18 This is actually a really fun game to play. When can I say it? If you're telling a story where someone else has said it. I don't say it. When can I say it? Yeah. If you're telling a story where someone else has said it. Nah, I don't say it. I don't say it, man. I know there's white dudes that like try to use that
Starting point is 00:52:31 as the excuse to kind of say it and they get their rocks off. They're like, well, technically he was saying the word. In a joke? No, I don't say it
Starting point is 00:52:38 in the jokes either. I mean, but would you? No. If it like made the joke better? No, I mean, it does make every joke better.
Starting point is 00:52:44 It is. I wish I could say it after every punchline. Robbie Slovic says it so well. He says it's comedy dynamite. Any punchline just hits harder with the N-word. You don't use it, but it's a good lawyer. But not like to drop the N-word. Yeah, like Louis, the way he said it.
Starting point is 00:52:59 What do you think about that? I didn't like that because I think he just wanted to say the N-word. That bit bothered me because I think he, Louis, as a white guy, was like, how can I say the N-word to black people and not offend them and get away with it? Not even not offend them, get away with it. That's why I don't like that bit. That's what's more impressive. Yeah, I know. What's the worst thing I can say?
Starting point is 00:53:15 I like that as like a comedic task. Yeah, see, I didn't feel like it was a comedic task. I feel like it was just how can I, a guy who wants to say the N-word, say the N-word? If it wasn't funny, I'd agree. But it was a really funny bit. So then I'm like, yeah, he pulled it off.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I didn't. He gets a pass. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I don't know. Like, I assume that Louis didn't grow up with a lot of black people. So he probably doesn't know how that has made them feel or hasn't seen someone call his friend that word. And that's the problem with P-A-K-I. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Is I've grown up around people who've had that word thrown at them every day and hate it. But I've also got like... Can't they just imagine the rest of the word after? They just end it? Yeah, like somebody says it and then they just quickly go, Stani. There's nothing... What did just quickly go, Stani. There's nothing. What'd you call me, Stani? My friend.
Starting point is 00:54:10 You didn't let me finish it. You punched me in the face before I could say the rest of it. Maybe they want to say the rest of it. Maybe they do want to fucking say the rest of it. I was just taking a really long pause. That's it. I needed some water a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:54:22 So there's a friend of mine called Ishan Akbar, another comic, and he's from Pakistani and Bangladeshi descent. Ooh. And we were doing it. What do you call the Bangladeshis? Bangos.
Starting point is 00:54:31 That sounds fucking racist. That sounds racist. But do they get upset about that? No, I don't really. Shout out to the Bangos, bro. The Bangos are my favorite. That is a phenomenal word. Oh my God. That's hilarious phenomenal word. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:54:46 That's hilarious. Bangos? What do you call Indians? Indos. We just shorten everything. But the Pakistani ones. So the Pakistanis are the ones that are just most sensitive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:54 And do they not realize that they're being sensitive? Would you think they would prefer Pakos? Oh. Maybe that's the problem. I'll go back. I'll try it. And I'll come back and report next week. Yeah, what if we call them Pakos?
Starting point is 00:55:04 Pakos. Pakos. Really say it correctly. Pakos. I'm. Yeah, what if we call them Pacos? Pacos. Pacos. Really say it correctly. Pacos. I'm comfortable saying that, yeah. Pacos. Yeah? Pacos.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Sounds delicious. Yeah, that's awesome. That's a good name. Bunch of Pacos moving into the neighborhood. See, that's when it's bad. Driving up the value. You can't do that. You can't do that.
Starting point is 00:55:17 You can't do bunch of. Driving up the value. Driving up the value. I can't compliment. That's not offensive anymore. Yeah, you saved it. They drove up the value. They came to our poor disenfranchised white area and they drove up the value. I can't help but compliment. That's not offensive anymore. Yeah, you saved it. Roll up the value. They came to our poor, disenfranchised white area,
Starting point is 00:55:27 and they just roll up the value. These educated... Fucking Paco's coming in with a college education. I know. These are committed individuals, you know? We were at the Edinburgh Festival with each other, and there's like a 3 a.m. show. It's called Late and Live.
Starting point is 00:55:40 And we're having a drink, and I went to me three friends. I was like, give me any word, and I'll try and get it into me, Seth. And if I get it in, you owe having a drink and I went to me three friends I was like give me any word and I'll try and get it into me set and if I get it in you owe me a drink and if I don't get your word then I owe you a drink
Starting point is 00:55:50 so one of the guys gives me like parachute and someone gives me sausage or whatever and Ishan gave me P-A-K-I so he goes get that in he goes but on top of that he goes I've just been paid
Starting point is 00:56:00 £400 for a set I'll give you all of this if you walk on and say any English in, any Irish in, any P-A-K-I's in. And I went, I'll do it. And I just bottled out. I didn't get it in. You didn't do it?
Starting point is 00:56:14 Come on. I couldn't do it. How scary are these Pacos, dude? I'm trying to understand, like, what's going on? Do you know what I thought? I genuinely was more worried about the fucking woman with the purple hair on the front row who I knew was going to be the most offended person in the room. Oh, so you're really worried about the white people
Starting point is 00:56:31 that will write blogs defending the Pacos? Yeah. Do Pacos call anybody else by... Do they shorten anybody else's country? I don't think so. Like what do you call people from Poland? Poles. Yeah, you're a Pole.
Starting point is 00:56:52 I cannot believe that. Did the Pacos call the Poles? I don't know. Is there a situation where a Paco, a Mango, and a Pole are all talking and they're just using the- A Paco, a Mango, and a Pole. Yeah, a Paco, a Mango, and a Pole walk all talking and they're just using the... A paco, a bango, and a pole. Yeah. A paco, a bango, and a pole walk into a bar.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I was going to say, the only time they talk is in jokes. Walk into a bar. Right? And then what happens besides the paco not drinking because he's devout?
Starting point is 00:57:18 Well, the bango's sat with him and the pole's getting three beers from himself. See how much fun it can be? Now, could we call it a bangy, a poley, and a... Now, now, now, now. This is where it gets bad. This is where it gets bad.
Starting point is 00:57:37 You can't do that. Because in America, you can't call them Polacks, I guess. Yeah, that's another one. But we had, like, so many jokes tied into how dumb they are. Who is the Polish person that did something stupid that just started this horrible trend? I never want to share those jokes. I remember as a kid reading joke books,
Starting point is 00:57:51 and it's like, the Poles are so dumb. Like, what the fuck is that? How do you get a one-handed Polak out of a tree? A what? A one-armed Polak out of a tree. How do you get a one-armed Polak out of a tree? Check them. Well, that's a good answer. get a one-armed Polack out of a tree? Check them.
Starting point is 00:58:06 That's a good answer. The other one was, the answer is wave. He's so dumb and Polish, he'll just let go of the tree and fall. So there's no stereotype in the UK that Polish people are stupid? Isn't that crazy? It's gotta be a US immigrant thing. Just a new group gets shit
Starting point is 00:58:24 on. I thought it was a World War II thing that they were using cavalry in World War II when everybody had tanks. Oh, that's hilarious. That's what I thought it came from. So our stereotype of Polish people is yours for Mexicans. That they're hardworking, the most fun, the greatest families, the best immigrant group ever in the history of the world. That's your guy' problem out there. You guys don't like immigrants because you don't have Mexicans. That's true.
Starting point is 00:58:49 I mean this sincerely. There is like, even the conservatives, they're like, oh, stop the border. They don't mind the ones that got in. Notice they're not going to send them back. They're like, these ones are great, and we love everything that they're doing, and they're awesome. Great time. Amazing amount of fun. But we're doing and they're awesome. Great time, amazing amount of fun, but we're at a limit.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yeah. I suppose the stupidity thing for us, that's often leveled at Irish people. What about Portuguese? Why do the Portuguese get that? The Portuguese get what? The language. They're called stupid.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I've never heard anything about people from Portugal. Is that right? Anything. Not one thing. French people are rude and stink. They are. Polish people work hard for cheap. Yeah. French people are rude and stink. They are. Polish people work hard for cheap. Irish people work hard for cheap
Starting point is 00:59:29 and they're stupid. That's why they work hard for cheap. Irish people, that's accurate. I love the racist term for Irish people, Mick. It's so funny. Or Paddy. Paddy, I don't know. Mick is funny because it's always Mick something. Yeah, but Mick isn't even racist. It's again the same thing. It's so funny. Oh, Paddy. Paddy, I don't like. Mick is funny because it's always Mick something.
Starting point is 00:59:45 It took me years to put that together. Mick isn't even racist. It's, again, the same thing. It's like short for your last fucking name. Yeah, you probably call him Mick. You can't call him McIntyre. You can't call an Irish person a Mick. No, you can't. But can a Paco call a Mick a Mick?
Starting point is 00:59:59 Can they do that? You're inventing songs for his life. I'm just saying, like, at a certain point in time, we just got to step back and go, okay, guys. You don't use Jap, though, right? What do you mean? Like, Jap. You wouldn't call a Japanese person a Jap.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Second I walk into the restaurant, they start going, how much is I going to say? I go, Jap, Jap, Jap, and I just Jap them off. You Jap, Jap, Jap. If you just go, yo, what's up, my Jap? You wouldn't say that. Let me think. He's got you.
Starting point is 01:00:23 He's finally got you. Would I call a Japanese person a Jap? Yeah. You know why I wouldn't say that. Let me think. He's got you. He's finally got you. Would I call a Japanese person a Jap? Yeah. You know why I wouldn't say it? Tell me why, Andrew. Because Jap is something offensive for Jewish women. Stop it, bro. So I think it's double bad.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I'm worried that that Japanese person is going. It's a Jewish woman. I'm worried that he thinks that I'm calling him. Is that a Japanese man or a Jewish going... I'm worried that he thinks that I'm calling him... Hey, what's up, you Jap? And he's going to go, you think I'm Jewish American princess? He's going to get really upset.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Japanese American princess. No, I don't think Jap is bad, dude. Wait, why is that offensive to a Jewish woman? Jewish American princess. What'd you call your dick? Your Jap side? Yeah. Wait, What'd you call your dick? Your Japs eye? Yeah. Yeah? Wait, what'd I call my what?
Starting point is 01:01:09 Like the opening to your cock, your Japs eye? Do you have that here? No. What is that? My urethra? Yeah, so like the bit... Your Japs eye? Yeah, that's what... Yo, that is fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Did you not have that? No! Yo! Japs eye is amazing. Is that not over that? No! No! Yo! Jap's eye is amazing. Is that not over here? Can I get it in this? I'm so glad I got something out of here. So that's offensive as well because obviously you're saying that Japanese people's eyes
Starting point is 01:01:35 look like dicks, which is not okay. They look more like dicks than white people's eyes. That is, we can all relate. It depends on- But you know what's really funny? If their eyes look like that but their dick holes are perfectly round they peed in a spiral
Starting point is 01:01:49 this is great that is interesting Jap does feel bad because there's historical context there and I'm sure you guys have the same thing with Paco
Starting point is 01:01:58 but with the eye yeah but if we remove ourselves from it we can acknowledge how absolutely absurd it is yeah like how the lack of creativity But if we remove ourselves from it, we can acknowledge how absolutely absurd it is.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Yeah. Like how? The lack of creativity. The lack of creativity for Americans. That the best thing we could. If we remove ourselves from it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If we remove ourselves from it. Then we can say it.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Anyway, so the lack of creativity for Americans. Like I'm embarrassed that the best thing that we could think of for Japanese people was Japs. There's a lot of ammo there. Are you fucking kidding me? I think they had other ones too, right? Well, the fact that you have to Google them means that they weren't good enough. You got close to one of them actually right there. No, that wasn't them.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Oh, yeah, that's Vietnamese. See? Good point. See, we at least did something good for them. Yeah, it's creative. It's embarrassing. Japan, they fucking bombed Pearl Harbor
Starting point is 01:02:49 and the best we came up with was Jap? Yeah. We got to get back, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not like they bombed Pearl Harbor
Starting point is 01:02:57 and you're like, well, you know what? You're all Japs now. That was the least of it. We'll call it one-all, okay? What should we call it?. We'll call it Waddle, okay? What should we call it? What should we call it?
Starting point is 01:03:09 Japanese barbecue? Is that what it is? Come on. Did we invent Japanese barbecue when you think about it? Bro, we can't let you get near the Brits, dude. It just gets crazy. You just get in your element. It's too much.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Yeah, Jap, I guess, feels... We got to talk to some Japs about it because I don't think that... You want to talk to some Jewish American princesses about this? Yeah. Jewish American princesses. They would just whine, I think. See what they think.
Starting point is 01:03:35 We got to see what they think. Like, what do you think they're more offended by? Like, nuclear holocaust or that word? I think it depends what day of the week it is and where they are. You know what I mean? Yeah. If you were out in, like, Osaka chilling... I don't think you can really use that. You can't
Starting point is 01:03:48 like go and be like, oh, all right, you're a Jap. And if they're like, actually, I'm upset. You can't go, well, at least I'm not nuclear holocausting you right now. That's a good point. But what I would also say is, could you be like, this is one of the most beautiful Jap hotels I've ever been at. Like, let's say you're in Tokyo. You're like, okay, what'd you
Starting point is 01:04:04 do for dinner last night? Oh, my God, we went to this Jap restaurant, and we had the most amazing Jap sushi you've ever had your entire life. And then we went back to our Jap hotel, and it was, dude, the Jap massage that I got before I went to sleep was one of the most relaxing things I've ever experienced in my life. You can't say that after they didn't let us in their country for four years because of COVID?
Starting point is 01:04:24 What? What do you want me to say? Why am I supposed to? You're going to do that monologue and then just look at me and go, yeah, go on, Adam. Just say something. Yes or no. That's not offensive, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:04:41 There is a hot dog restaurant in New York called Japa Dog. It's a Japanese hot dog restaurant. Jappa Dog, that's a place. They named it, and I have to say it every time I go there. Begrudgingly. Why do you have to say it every time you go there? Do you say it wherever you are? They walk in, they go.
Starting point is 01:04:54 You walk in, you're like, Jappa Dog! They say that to you. McDonald's! When you walk into Japanese places, they yell. You know, you've gone to Japanese restaurants. They have a greeting every time you go in. You didn't know this? No, I've never been to one.
Starting point is 01:05:08 No, I'm being serious. When you walk into a Japanese restaurant, the whole restaurant greets you. Actually, look it up what they say. So there's a thing
Starting point is 01:05:16 that they say every time you walk into a Japanese restaurant. It sounds like that. It's probably welcome, right? Yeah. Yeah, Mark. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Good guess right Yeah, Mark. It is, by all means. Good guess right there, buddy. It probably is, yeah. But you never know. But you don't know. They might just be fucking... Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? They go,
Starting point is 01:05:37 And that means, because of Hiroshima, I'm not cooking the fish. Welcome, please come in. They got to say all that. It's fucking stupid to say please come in when you're already inside, isn't it? Yeah, I'm already entered.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Yeah. So what else could they say instead? Instead of... You want me to invent a Japanese word? No, but you could do a traditional dance. I believe they call it Jap dancing. No. You're thinking about Japanese shiplips.
Starting point is 01:06:15 I just don't. I don't get it anymore, man. I don't get it anymore. I don't get it. I do agree that Jap feels bad. It does feel bad. And Paco with an I doesn't. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:33 That's just the way you live. And Jap might not feel bad in English. Like, Jap, I'm so much more comfortable saying that. You are. Because there's no Japanese people. Because you've never treated Japanese people poorly. Yeah. Neither have I.
Starting point is 01:06:43 That's why I feel comfortable saying it. But you don't feel comfortable saying Paco with an I. Yeah. Because. Because I have. Because you've treated Pacos with an I's. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I would have said that like in an argument in school with an Asian guy. Really? Yeah. And I'm not proud to say that. And then did that help you win it? Did that help you win the argument? It probably escalates into the fight and then you see in the party clip, like, get to the toilet so they send the path. That was Paco he was fighting?
Starting point is 01:07:10 Probably. Oh my God. Yeah. Well, listen, I'm glad that we got to the bottom of that, dude. What about Vietz? Can we call him Vietz? Vietz, is that offensive?
Starting point is 01:07:21 I can't run every country in Asia. I'm just saying, like, what if we call Canadians Canades? Is that offensive? I can't run every country in Asia. I'm just saying. What if we call Canadians Canades? Is that offensive? No. Cambo's probably not offensive. Cambo's. Can we call Cambodians Cambo's?
Starting point is 01:07:34 That sounds like a compliment. That sounds fire. Cambo's, dude. Yeah. What about people from Nigeria? We can call them Jerians. We can call them gerians. I would do it that way.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Sometimes you shorten on the other end. Yes. The first one is crazy. You've got to understand how more multicultural this country, and New York particularly, is. There was one black guy in the town I grew up in in Liverpool and he was called
Starting point is 01:08:07 Black Alan the Taxi Driver. That's actually pretty open-minded when you think that you added his first name and occupation. Black Alan the Taxi Driver and just everybody knew him. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah. Yeah, like my mum would come back from like, like she'd have gone somewhere in a taxi and come back. Like, yeah, I was just at Black Allen, the taxi driver. Like... Can I tell you why that's open-minded?
Starting point is 01:08:31 He drank in the same pub as me parents. Can I tell you why that's open-minded? You could have just stopped at Black and everyone would have known. Yeah. You could have named an occupation. I'm just being in Black. I like that.
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Starting point is 01:12:40 Was that your parents? Why? That's a northern thing in the north of England. So in London, they'll say my father, my dad. In Liverpool, it's me mum.
Starting point is 01:12:51 And you guys just choose to do that, knowing that it's wrong. I've just like, my is almost, it's almost not in my. No, no, no. He's asking a very interesting question
Starting point is 01:13:00 right now. That's a very, you're asking a really good question. We should discuss this over explosives. Yeah, let's go to the library
Starting point is 01:13:11 and look it up. See if there's any literature. I ain't seen no problem. Yeah, I ain't seen, yeah, you know. It's just not
Starting point is 01:13:19 in my phone card, so it's the same, right? Really? Yeah. So would you be like, not to your current girl, but like to another girl you met on Yeah. So would you be like, not to your current girl, but like to another girl you met on the road,
Starting point is 01:13:28 would you be like, suck up me dick? Suck me dick. Claims. No way, no way. Suck me dick. Suck me dick. I mean, I'd do it in my accent,
Starting point is 01:13:41 not that one. Suck me dick. Suck me dick. Suck me dick. Come on me dick. Suck me dick. Come on, Gil. Suck me dick. Come on, lad. Come on, lad.
Starting point is 01:13:48 You would say, come on, lad, suck me dick? Not to a lad, no. Come on, lad. Get over here, Gil, and suck me dick. Get over here, Gil, and suck me dick. I'm going to use it. That's fine, bro. That's me pussy, right?
Starting point is 01:14:00 That's me pussy. Do they say that to you? Do you like, beat me pussy up? Beat me pussy up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And where was she from? She split time between Liverpool and the Bronx.
Starting point is 01:14:11 I think she's from I think she's from me pussy up. I think she's from Glasgow, actually. Glasgow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beat my pussy up.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Beat, beat. Beat. Beat. Yeah. Beat me pussy up. What are you doing to women? That's the only part of them you can beat. You have to take, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:14:28 Beggars can't be choosers, you know? You're allowed to beat that part up. A girl would say lick me out. Lick me out. That makes sense, though. Lick me out. Eat me out. Like eat me out, yes.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lick me out. And do they speak to you like that? Do they say lick me pussy it depends on the context like in bed maybe yeah not in like the fucking lick me out
Starting point is 01:14:50 lick me out Scouse dirty talk is awesome yeah yeah yeah lick me out Scouse dirty talk doesn't work like I have to put on like if I'm ever dirty talking like I'll put on
Starting point is 01:14:58 alright alright give me a little something right now yeah yeah give me a little dirty talk how would you do it oh god what do you want me to say
Starting point is 01:15:07 this is your this is your ring come on man you don't know what to say in dirty talk I've never had to look at someone like you in the eye and do it
Starting point is 01:15:13 don't you think oh there we go now it's so much better it's a little closer you can't it sounds Scouse is such an aggressive accent so saying
Starting point is 01:15:20 suck me dick oh girl I'm gonna fuck you how would a girl tell you to hit it from the back let's say she wants to switch positions how would a girl tell you to hit it from the back like let's say she wants to switch positions how would she be like fuck me from behind
Starting point is 01:15:28 fuck me arse yeah yeah she'd say fuck me from behind fuck me from behind but like in a more like girl do they get more feminine
Starting point is 01:15:36 fuck me from behind that's a good scouts girl as well fuck me from behind Fuck me from behind Fuck me from behind They're kind of naggy They're a little What was that?
Starting point is 01:15:50 Fuck me from behind Fuck me from behind Sounds like Dora Fuck me from behind Yeah man Are all the positions the same? Like 69, missionary,
Starting point is 01:16:00 doggy style? Yeah yeah yeah That's translated That comes over We got the karma suit We got the book Do you call it doggy style? Doggy yeah translated oh that comes over okay we got the comments you call it doggy style doggy yeah you don't call it bango style that's a type of curry that's that's when you put some that's when you put a french rider freedom fry have you ever like had a backlash from a group of people before for a joke
Starting point is 01:16:25 just jabs today yeah yeah no have I ever had backlashes about jokes but from like a group
Starting point is 01:16:34 yeah yeah yeah what's the worst oh god I don't even know at this point all groups
Starting point is 01:16:39 every single group I'm getting backlash from Gujaratis because I'm doing crowd work on a guy he says he manages a hotel I said your last name is Patel
Starting point is 01:16:47 you good you motherfucker your parents own it and then I randomly guess the name of the hotel and then there's so many comments in Hindi
Starting point is 01:16:54 about how fuck me and I have no respect for the state and it's like y'all are offended by everything I literally just guessed
Starting point is 01:17:01 you got backlash for that oh yeah so many comments but I think the Patels have been very successful in the hotel industry in America. And then I guess in India, because, you know, with YouTube, I have a growing Indian audience because of shorts. But, like, I guess in India, they don't. They're just so in such a hurry to get offended.
Starting point is 01:17:17 It's unbelievable. Oh, wow. It's like a snowflake thing there. I don't think it's offense. I think it's power. Like, I don't think that people, yes, this execution is the same, but I don't think that they're sitting there like, I can't wait for someone to offend me. I think it's, I can't wait to tell somebody what to do. And now I have a weapon to tell people what to do.
Starting point is 01:17:36 So I don't think it's like everybody's a snowflake. I think everybody just wants a weapon. It's like everybody wants to eat the mushroom for Mario. Everybody wants the star that makes you, you know... Invincible. Invincible. Completely invincible. And it's just like...
Starting point is 01:17:48 You feel powerless given any sort of power. Given a little bit of power. Yeah, it's like, you're not black. You're not black. You don't get it. You don't get it.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Not in America. I don't know how it is over there. You don't get it. Nobody gets it. Just them. You all decide to come here. If you decide to eat at the dairy restaurant and you're lactose
Starting point is 01:18:12 intolerant, who's that on? It's on you. Take that up with your mom and dad, yo. Take it up with your mom and dad. I'm just saying. You might be the only man in history who's ever done a dairy intolerance race. I got to make it happen, bro.
Starting point is 01:18:27 I got to put it in this situation that they'll understand. I'm just saying black people are entitled to every single thing that bothers them about America because they were forcibly brought here. Everybody else was like, you see that racist-ass country where I could get rich? I'm going for it. Everybody else did it. Speaking fast, probably. I'm just saying, everybody else was like, that place is racist as fuck, but I'm going anyway because I'm greedy.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Right? And then they came. Simple as that. And we were like, come here, get rich. Being black is also the hardest. You know how hard being black is? Jamie Foxx had a stroke. God willing, everything is okay. But you see that and like, yo, shouts to Jamie, prayers up. But also, this is a
Starting point is 01:19:07 55-year-old man who looks like he's 28. He's a multimillionaire in the peak of health. And when he had a stroke, I was like, yo, being black is exactly as hard as black people say it is. Holy shit. Jamie Foxx at 55. Bro, that shit is hard.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Yeah, man. Yeah, sh is hard. Yeah, man. Yeah, shouts out to Jamie, man. I don't know exactly what's going on, but I have heard some people say it was a stroke. That's some speculation, I think. Yeah, man. Shouts to Jamie, man. Also, change of topic.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Adam's trying to switch teams, by the way. To what? He told us this before, that he's trying to move to Nashville and become a country music star. You love country, that's right. I love country music. Are you religious? My dad loves country.
Starting point is 01:19:48 You need to get into religion if you're going to go live in Nashville. It's big there. Jesus is big. Jesus is big in the music, too. It's beautiful. Huh? It's beautiful. Jesus is big in the music, too.
Starting point is 01:19:59 I actually do want to say one thing, and I mean this sincerely. I mean this sincerely. I don't believe white Christians. I only believe Christianity if it's coming out of a black person's face. I mean that. Every white person
Starting point is 01:20:13 that I see preaching, I'm like, you fucking liar. You fucking liar. No soul. That's why I believe Catholics because that's how a white person
Starting point is 01:20:22 would believe in God. He'd be up there like, fuck this shit. God, I'm not owning people. You own me. All right, fuck. At least I've got a nice house to live in. Shit. But when I see white people up there, bro, it is, I think they up to something.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Yeah. You're going to go Christian. You've got to go black church. Like Joel Osteen, you see him. He's got all the words and everything, but you're like, no. Something's off. Something's something. Yeah. You're going to go Christian, you got to go black shirt. Like Joel Osteen, you see him, he got all the words and everything, but you're like, no!
Starting point is 01:20:47 Something's off. Yeah, something's off. No! Watch the other, Creflo Dollar, who I know for a fact is just making money off people.
Starting point is 01:20:53 I'm like, he got the Lord in him. What's the other guy? Not Joel Osteen, he's like an older guy. What's his name? He's a famous pastor? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:02 People are famous pastors. He's an old white guy? Yeah't believe it billy graham no he's the original like telling of whatever you would believe them that guy oh that guy's wild so he looks like the devil i'm convinced that if heaven and hell exists, that guy there is the devil on earth. He looks like it. Or it's just his face. Have you seen The Devil's Advocate?
Starting point is 01:21:32 You know the fucking face that the woman turns into in the store? That's him. It's fucking that. I'm telling you, it's just white dudes. You don't believe them when it comes to Christianity. They have to be Catholic. Christian white guys? No.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Bollocks. But he looks possessed. There's something dark about him yeah he's a fucking weird yeah he's just horrible yeah
Starting point is 01:21:50 if I move to Nashville it's not it's not gonna be religion I can get on board with them singing about him yeah the same way I can get on board with a comedian
Starting point is 01:21:58 saying something that I don't really I don't believe the comedian they're just trying to be funny yeah they're just trying to rhyme something with fucking Jesus yeah
Starting point is 01:22:04 and it's fire. Christian music is great. I loved it. Full fucking weekend. Can you tell them the story of your friend that didn't like country music? Stop. We're going to get him in there. So Dan, who I host Have A Word With,
Starting point is 01:22:17 the reason we went to Nashville was Luke Combs was playing a stadium show. Legend. And everyone I do the podcast with hates country music, and they take, like, they rag on me for liking it. That's like a personality type that's kind of unfair. It's very hacky. Like how, like, Polish people are stupid. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:33 It just became cool to not like country. What kind of music? Like, everything but country. Exactly. People would say that in America, but they never listen to one country song. By people, I mean me for most of my life. I'm not listening to country, and I was like,
Starting point is 01:22:44 holy shit, this is the best music. Because it's the people who like country. Because we're like, oh, I'm not like those people. So there's no way I can like this music. But once you hear it, shit. That's interesting. Tennessee whiskey up. Give me that.
Starting point is 01:22:56 That's a good ass point. We're trying to create distance between the people that listen and ourselves. Hey, I'm not like those people right there. But fuck that. It's white people's I'm not racist. It is white people's I'm not racist. It's the new that listen and ourselves. Hey, I'm not like those people right there, but fuck that. Oh, it's white people's I'm not racist. It is white people's I'm not racist. It's the new I'm not racist, I have black friends. But country music makes you feel comfortable being racist.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Yeah. Fuck yeah. I get it. Somebody's gotta fucking get the crap out of you. What? Come on, dude. I just like how simple it is. There's no metaphors in country music.
Starting point is 01:23:27 They're just singing about... Literal. Yeah, they're just like, I love me wife. Car. But she's doing me a dinner, so I've killed her, but I've got a truck.
Starting point is 01:23:33 No, they never kill. They never kill. The women are the most violent. Female country music is more violent than any gangster rap that exists. Every song is about murdering the cheating husband or keying up his car
Starting point is 01:23:43 or doing something incredibly violent. I don't listen to female... It was a big drop off from one to two. I gotta be honest. I'm starting high. I'm starting high. But my point is you cannot listen to female country. Female country is a very dangerous, toxic form of music. I refuse to listen to it. I skip
Starting point is 01:23:57 every single time. When I'm listening to my Luke Combs and shit, where I just got that ripping, I'm fine. Female country, no. Draw the line. We took the whole squad out because I was like, I'm taking you to Nashville. We're going to have the week there. We'll end it with the Luke Combs concert. We'll film the whole thing for our Patreon stuff.
Starting point is 01:24:14 And that's the plan. And Dan, so one of the days we went to a ranch that's run by a family and they had us there for the day, cook for us, let us use the ranch. And one of the guys who works at the ranch, and he's also a musician. And Dan is the worst for ragging on me for hating country music.
Starting point is 01:24:29 It's been like a thing for him. And he'd had like seven shots of moonshine. Like, he's fucked. And the guy starts, he goes, right, these next two songs are sort of linked. So he goes, the first one's about me sister. He goes, she actually died last year. She was hit by a drunk driver.
Starting point is 01:24:44 And this song is about what she meant to me year. She was hit by a drunk driver. Oh, boy. This song is about what she meant to me and who she was and where I think she's gone and how I'm going to see her again. And he sang that and he said, and then this next one is about the vengeance I felt towards the man who hit her. And it's about, like, loading his gun and going to, he's like, but I won't do it.
Starting point is 01:24:59 And that's the song. Like, the vengeance he wants to exact but won't do it. And we got it all on camera including the very last bit where if pan to dan who's rotten drunk sobbing and goes i finally get country music that's all it takes oh it's fucking great and a couple of them have converted but then i got a message before so they they flew back to the UK when I flew here. And Carl, who's my best mate and our lead producer, he put, the second they landed, he put,
Starting point is 01:25:31 if I ever hear a country song again, or a good song in country style, I'm going to blow my own fucking head clean off. So we haven't quite won Carl around. Carl will come around. Yeah. But Nashville's fucking so good. Yes, that's great.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Charlemagne calls it white Atlanta. Have you ever been to Atlanta? That's what you said to me. Yes, that's great. Charlemagne calls it white Atlanta. Have you ever been to Atlanta? That's what you said to me. Yeah, it's just amazing. It's a great city, a lot of fun, and country music
Starting point is 01:25:51 is just the best. And just the highest standard of women I've ever seen anywhere in the world. Oh, really? Yeah. You prefer it to like
Starting point is 01:25:58 a Sweden or like a Denmark or something like that? Yeah. But it's the attire. Where the fuck are you at? Oh, yeah. And the hat. And you like heavy Where the fuck are you at? Cowgirl boots. Oh, yeah. And the hat.
Starting point is 01:26:06 And you like heavy tits or are you a big fucking chub guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You like big fucking tits. He's not lactose intolerant, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? He's probably like the Valley Pots
Starting point is 01:26:15 right there, bro. Oh, it was fucking impossible. And I was sat like at the Luke Combs concert on the aisle. Yeah. I'm like quite high up. So people just walk.
Starting point is 01:26:24 It was just like a conveyor belt of the best asses you've ever seen in your life and they've all got cowgirl hats on fucking torture what is a good ass for an English white guy
Starting point is 01:26:31 it's hourglass innit oh so you like it when it comes out in and back out but do you like it when it comes also out like that oh yeah
Starting point is 01:26:38 just making sure you saw a lot of that in Nashville yeah oh the white girl's got cake in Nashville bring up that girl, the singer. Oh, that country singer.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Holy shit. What's her name? Theo Haderon, I think. Theo Haderon, that's right. Now you have to check in. My name box is a killer. Look at this thing about to pop open. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:26:57 I got to get the full video, but... But he has compared it to England, so I guess... Oh, I've seen this, yeah. I've seen this. Oh. I've seen this. Oh, I've seen this. I mean, I can probably pull it up quicker than you can. She got a BBL, bro. She got a BBL.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I mean, it's retarded. And that's not even a good angle. Like, it gets even crazier. And she's wearing camouflage. Imagine that shit wasn't, you know what I mean? Imagine she wasn't trying to blend in with that thing. Do we have that video, Mark? Yeah, I'll pull it up.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Okay, so any thoughts about moving to the States, potentially? I would love to. I'd have to bring the podcast in with us. Of course. Our podcast is so important to us. I earn more money from the podcast now than from stand-up, which I never thought was ever going to be possible. That would probably change with this tour.
Starting point is 01:27:45 The tour I've just announced is the tour you always sort of aimed for. Yeah. Like, the venue I did with you in London, we're doing five shows there.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Amazing. We're doing two shows in Liverpool in like a 2,500 seat. Wow. Manchester's 40 miles down the road from Liverpool. We're doing the Manchester Apollo
Starting point is 01:28:04 where I opened for Bill Baird a few years ago and for me like with venues and with career wise taking off like venues that mean something to me is so important so like when Baird came over a few years ago I did four dates with him one in Glasgow the Manchester one that I'm now doing
Starting point is 01:28:21 the same venue as and then the Royal Albert Hall in London the Royal Albert Hall now to get back there with my name on the fucking tickets is like the goal do you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:28:30 but like the podcast is sort of greater than the sum of its parts at the same time like I'm doing two shows and I'm building
Starting point is 01:28:38 a really big theatre but then we did a live podcast show in December in the arena it's 8,000 people insane completely sold out insane completely unlisted bill apart from like But then we did a live podcast show in December in the arena. It's 8,000 people. Insane. Completely sold out.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Insane. Completely unlisted bill apart from like us. Crazy. Bringing our friends on. We booked like a 90s pop band. Like everyone knew. They closed the show out. Just brought them out for no fucking reason.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Great, great. It was just a fucking party. And yeah, I'd love to move here. Like there was moments in Nashville when we were sat around going, we could just move this to Nashville. Just go home and talk. Because Carl, like our main producer, he's been with his missus for like 12 years.
Starting point is 01:29:15 So they're ready to break up? They're nearly done. So Dan's married. If they could convince their two partners, let's just go and give it a go for a year. I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that we'd do it. If you do do it, go to Austin, not Nashville.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Yeah, I do want to go down there. You'll get the same kind of country feel, but you'll have way more opportunities to do stand-up. There's just not enough stand-up in Nashville right now. There's a great club, Zany's. We went down. So on the Thursday night, we took pretty much Thursday off from filming
Starting point is 01:29:44 because we were filming like 12 hours a day for a week. Yeah. Because what we, with our podcast, we do one public episode every week, one episode on Patreon. But then every month we give them a Patreon special and it's us doing something that isn't just a podcast.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Right. So like we went to Amsterdam for three days in January, filmed for three days, cut it down to an hour and a half. That's the special. Oh, wow. Nashville's probably going to be a three-parter because we did so much stuff.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Yeah. But that's what, like, the reason our Patreon is so big, so we're like, I think, 13th in the world now. Wow. Wow. So we've got 21,000 Patreons.
Starting point is 01:30:17 We've only got 60K subscribers. Wow. On your pod. Oh, wow. So you just have converted, like, this large percentage of your followers. Yeah, it's like a third of them sign up amazing
Starting point is 01:30:26 which is just compared to I always like very bullishly call us the pound for pound number one podcast that's great because like
Starting point is 01:30:32 per viewer we make the most money yeah I mean it just shows the power of like you know building community and doing what you can like we can put anything on
Starting point is 01:30:41 we can go oh we're gonna try something fucking stupid do you wanna come to this and the tickets just go. Like, last year, after I broke up with her, we did. Did you ever have the TV show Blind Date? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Where there's, like, a wall with, like, three. We just did that. Yeah. We just did Blind Date in front of 1,000 people. Huh. Just. Oh. Is that how you met your current girl?
Starting point is 01:30:59 No. Yeah. No, but the girl I chose that night, like we were supposed to go on a date, is now in a very serious relationship with Jamie. Get out of here. Did you guys hook up a little? Did nothing? No.
Starting point is 01:31:12 And one night, Jamie was in a pub in Liverpool, and he texts me and he goes, you know Lauren, who you met at Blind Date, did anything ever happen? And are you pursuing anything? Because she's here, and I feel like I... And I was like, no, no, no. Oh, God.
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Starting point is 01:37:09 She goes to get half his money. Turns out it's filed under his mom's name. Fantastic. Yeah. Fantastic. So there's this guy who plays for, was it Real Madrid and then Morocco? PSG. Or PSG. And he grew up in Spain. I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:24 And we obviously went to Morocco, and we're all into it. That's where I first really heard about this dude. And just an amazing story. I don't know if this is real, but it's going viral everywhere. Yeah. Oh, it's 100% real. Also, this won't be like, this won't have been his plan.
Starting point is 01:37:42 As great as it is that he's, do you know what I mean? Like, and funny. Like, this will just be a tax dodge. be like this won't have been his plan as great as it is that he's jeremy like i'm funny like this will just be a tax dodge so he's like oh uh this i pay my wages to hakibi football limited and my mom is the ceo of it and it'll be so he's not it'll be like the way taxes work in europe is if you do that you'll pay a lot less tax on the money if it's getting paid to a business rather than an individual because you can get more tax breaks so it'll be that like it's getting paid to a business rather than an individual, because you can get more tax breaks. So it'll be that. It's very common for comedians who start earning a lot of money
Starting point is 01:38:10 in the UK, their partners are then managing director of Andrew Schultz's comedian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, let's look at her. So she's of Tunisian descent, born in Spain as well. Apparently from Spain is like big
Starting point is 01:38:26 and then apparently there's reports that he's going to get half of her assets. Yeah, because she's got money. Yeah, her assets are in her name. You never once thought about where the money's coming from? Yeah. You never once were like, hey, whose name is this? Oh, you don't have anything in your name?
Starting point is 01:38:40 In years of marriage it never came up, it was never mentioned? It's so easily explained like if she goes where's this money coming from he goes oh it's coming from this shell company so we don't have to pay taxes.
Starting point is 01:38:50 Yeah it's in Monaco. She doesn't know she doesn't fucking understand what it is. She's never fucked is she? Yeah. Also this how you know that everybody's acting
Starting point is 01:38:56 like she's some gold digger like this how you know she was pure. She never asked where the money was going. Yeah. She actually loved him had kids with him
Starting point is 01:39:03 like this isn't some gold digger. She put two kids out here and he's going to take half of her shit? That's some scumbag shit if you ask me. Is it a big, like, bad breakup?
Starting point is 01:39:13 Like, why is the news of the whole money thing? I think there's some infidelity going on. I assume his infidelity is because he's a soccer player and that's apparently just what it is.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Even more so than the NBA. You probably can't, like, you probably have to say the word allegedly, but there's rumors and proceedings I believe that the infidelity
Starting point is 01:39:29 was not consensual as well whoa that was an allegation there's allegations and apparently what she said is that's what we're like
Starting point is 01:39:37 it was too far which is allegations which I don't know it's kind of convenient timing yeah allegedly she's like not only have you cheated on me, you've raped someone.
Starting point is 01:39:47 Ah, gotcha. That's the allegation. Wow, they've kept that in the tuck. They could protect soccer players well out there, bro. Yeah. We just heard about the money situation. I heard nothing about that. I heard nothing about that.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Is everybody on the take or something like that? Why are we not getting that information? Because... Is that something everybody knows out there in Europe? Yeah, I knew that before I knew the divorce thing. But I could list you a load of footballers there's rumors about and allegations. Like Cristiano Ronaldo can't play in the States. There's a reason he went to Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 01:40:20 I won't say what that reason is. Oh, we all know that. I didn't realize it was due to the allegations. But I thought they dropped that case. They dropped the case because he paid her. But there's transcripts of him going, there's a transcript of Ronaldo, you could find it in five seconds,
Starting point is 01:40:32 where he's like, she repeatedly asked me to stop and I carried on. Oh, holy shit. Like he's confessed it, but he was like, here's the money. But then she came back and asked for more money and it was like, no. Kobe doesn't have one as crazy as that, but Kobe got a wild one kobe got one where he basically is like i
Starting point is 01:40:48 understand why she thought it was rape like kobe got a wild one too so i know it sounds crazy i know but it's also went through the trial and then so the public opinion it's easier to digest it because it's like well he was found not guilty. So he's not guilty. You see what I'm saying? This is, I said she asked me to stop and then I just paid her off
Starting point is 01:41:12 and everybody's overlooking that. He's saying she asked me to stop. There's a player who plays for Arsenal and so it's sort of common knowledge that there's stuff going on with him but he's just being allowed to continue to play because it's not,
Starting point is 01:41:23 he hasn't been charged with anything. Yeah. So his name's Thomas Party. He also plays for Ghana. But when he scores for Arsenal and all the Arsenal fans are like, fucking get him, Party. If you look at any quote tweet of it, are you really celebrating this man? Whoa.
Starting point is 01:41:38 There was one guy that had allegations, got dropped from every team, and then the allegations were false or something and then didn't get re-signed. Do you remember this? I forget who this was. This was, like, something recent. English guy.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Mason Greenwood? I think so, yeah. No, so that wasn't false. So, Mason Greenwood. There's audio footage that his now-pregnant partner, it was, like, leaked, and she was like,
Starting point is 01:42:02 oh, I didn't put that out there. But it's because he was ab out there but it's she's because he was abusing her like she's got bridges and windows and like she's audio recorded it to have as evidence
Starting point is 01:42:11 and she's like Mason stop and he's like I want to have sex with you she's like well I don't want him and he's like I don't give a fuck what you want jeez
Starting point is 01:42:18 so he was dropped by he plays for Manchester United and he's still listed as their thing because it was going to court a witness dropped out
Starting point is 01:42:27 she didn't want to press charges anymore because apparently she's pregnant with this child whoa and she was like look yeah
Starting point is 01:42:34 it's a really horrible toxic relationship but I want to be back with you so he's now not going to prison because there's no charges to be followed up on I didn't realise
Starting point is 01:42:42 but there's audio that you again could find in 30 seconds on the internet of him all that. But there's audio that you, again, could find in 30 seconds on the internet of him doing that stuff. But she's like, I love him, I want her. So then what do you do?
Starting point is 01:42:51 But then, no Manchester United fan ever wants him to play for Manchester United. There's some fucking idiots on Twitter who are like, just get him back,
Starting point is 01:42:59 he's not guilty. And it's like, no, he hasn't been found guilty, that doesn't mean he hasn't done anything. And can you really then put him in a fucking Manchester United shirt and have children around the world fucking worshiping this guy when there's literally
Starting point is 01:43:11 audio footage on the internet? Is this a newer thing? Soccer players are no good, bro. Yeah, these soccer players are a couple hooligans, dude. These guys are goofballs. Is this a newer thing for soccer players? Yeah, because we have this for football players in America. This kind of sounds similar, but we have the excuse of, you know, they just are riddled with CTE.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Yeah. I think social media has just made it easier for people like me to find out that it happened. This has always been happening, you're saying? I think so. Like, the reason I know the rumors about Thomas' party is that it was all over Twitter. And the girl who was involved was like, the police aren't doing anything. Here are literally screenshots of the text from me and him. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:43:48 So she was like, nothing's going to happen to him, but I want you all to know who this guy is. You would never have heard about that in the 90s if a footballer was accused of it. Like, how would a victim get... Do you think the football or soccer players are just so used to people faking being hurt that they tend to...
Starting point is 01:44:07 I thought she was trying to draw a yellow. Play the whistle. It's a wild thing that that news never comes over here. We do get soccer news. This Hakimi story is just nuclear. Everybody's talking about it, but I think that's more like Manosphere stuff.
Starting point is 01:44:27 It's like, I got over on a girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a victory for men, isn't it? That's why you know about it. He could be working in a fucking supermarket and you'd have heard about this. It's like Britney's ex, what was his name? Kevin Federline.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Yeah, when he got that settlement. Yeah, it's the most American story of all time. I think Kelly Clarkson's husband got a bunch of money from her. I didn't like that though. I don't know why. I like Kelly Clarkson. I didn't like that. I thought that was just... She's just so sweet.
Starting point is 01:44:56 She seems like a nice, hard-working girl. You know what I mean? She doesn't seem like a gold-digging slut. She made all the money. I hope she She doesn't seem like a gold-digging slut Right? Like she made all the money Yeah, nah, I don't know I hope she is, that was such a nice compliment You don't look like a gold-digging slut Yeah
Starting point is 01:45:13 Good for you Fucking done good for yourself Yeah Yeah, do you know who Kelly Clarkson is? Yeah Okay, you're not a musician Okay, what else we got? Speaking of music, AI music has taken over the entire world
Starting point is 01:45:23 Have you heard these songs? Yeah, the Drake shit. Yeah, it's just wild. The Drake and the Weekend Join is fire. Yeah, the songs are great, but it's kind of remarkable how quickly they've gotten good.
Starting point is 01:45:34 I mean, it sounds like Travis Scott. You know how women have been using drag queen makeup? Contouring and these types of things are traditional drag queen makeup, contouring and these types of things, or traditional drag queen makeup, and women have absorbed it. So women's makeup is making them look a little bit more trans. And then trans women, the surgery and shit is getting better, so they're kind of meeting in the middle. I think that's what's happening and why the AI music sounds so good because we're distorting people's normal voices with these filters.
Starting point is 01:46:09 So there's these audio filters. So a guy like Travis Scott is putting the auto-tune on. So it's changing his voice and making it more AI-able. Have you heard AI Ariana? Ariana Grande? No. She's not like a robotic singer. And I think academics posted something.
Starting point is 01:46:23 But I guess what I'm trying to say is when we went to, when we were in London, we like sang in this booth. And like they completely changed my voice to make it way better than it was. When we even did that Open Her Up song, like I did not sound like it at all. They completely distorted my voice. They're doing that with all of our favorite artists. Whether they can sing or not, they are changing them, manipulating them. So it's like it's just getting closer to what a machine can do, and now they're meeting
Starting point is 01:46:47 in the middle. If you compare, this would be the real test, you compare like Frank Sinatra with AI Frank Sinatra. Because that's the most pure version of it because they didn't have
Starting point is 01:46:59 all these tools to manipulate how the person sounds. I'm fairly certain it would still be close. Because again, Ariana, I've heard her sing live at like SNL or something one time and I was like, holy fuck.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Here's a song I just found. I've never heard it before. This is Frank Sinatra singing Toxic by Britney Spears. Get into it. Not even close to Frank Sinatra. This sounds like Fred Astaire. Yeah, it's not even close. And there's. This sounds like Fred Astaire. Yeah, it's not even close.
Starting point is 01:47:27 And there's a perfect example. And they just need more data, and they can eventually kind of figure it out. But Travis's voice is already AI, so it's easy to AI him. I think you can make Alex sound like Travis or me sound like Travis or you sound like Travis if you just put enough autotune on. Yeah. or you sound like Travis if you just put enough autotune on. Yeah. Yeah, I will say, though,
Starting point is 01:47:44 to Autocash's point, like, some of the ones, like, like, I think Rihanna did a Beyonce song, and it sounds identical to Rihanna. Like, again, it's machinified. Like, Rihanna's voice is probably slightly machinified, but it still sounds...
Starting point is 01:47:57 If you play the... God, Academics did, posted an Ariana Drake cover, I think. And it's like, yo, this does not sound like a robot. The thing, I think everybody's talking about it just because it's new tech, and it's cool And it's like, yo, this does not sound like a robot. The thing, I think everybody's talking about it just because it's new tech and it's cool. It's like, oh shit, let's see how this person sounds
Starting point is 01:48:10 singing somebody else's song. But at the end of the day... No, they have them singing Bollywood, dude. They have them speaking a different language. I just think no one's going to care. Like in six months, no one's going to care because no one can put out a song saying, hey, this is a Drake song and make money off of it
Starting point is 01:48:24 because they're going to get sued. And then this whole shit is going to stop. So this is just a cool little thing that we all care about now. I don't think it's really going to be a thing. Will they create remixes? You know how we enjoy remixes. DJs come out and they make these illegal remixes where they blend different songs together. Will they start doing that with famous rappers' voices or famous singers' voices?
Starting point is 01:48:43 And if they're great, we like a great song. It doesn't matter what it is. Right? The moment that person puts it out for sale, then the record label is just. But that's the thing. You don't need to put it out for sale. Yeah. Like, it can just exist on the internet and then become the new coolest thing.
Starting point is 01:48:56 And it's almost like. People don't sell music that much. And all these TikTok songs also. Streaming sites. Once it's on a streamer, you're profiting off it. Yeah, you can. But let's say that they're not profiting off it. It's just a popular thing to use.
Starting point is 01:49:09 It's a video that we like. Something that helps the artist. Now it's just another banger for that artist and the artist didn't have to do any work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's the same thing that DJs are doing now already. But there's a weird copyright loophole where if you do an impression of someone's voice exactly, they don't get royalties for it.
Starting point is 01:49:26 You know what I mean? Parody law, isn't it? You're allowed to parody anything. It's an imitation. If you're able to do a perfect Drake accent and then you cover a Rihanna song as Drake and you can do a perfect accent, he doesn't get a cut of you doing a cover that sounds like him. You know what I mean? Or any of these bands that sound like other artists, like they don't get a cut of it. So if you could release a song that has a feature from unknown Canadian rapper,
Starting point is 01:49:49 and it's like people will come up with pseudonyms for all of these rappers, like Canadian artist featuring on my song, and it sounds exactly like Drake putting a fire verse on your track, is that Drake and is he entitled to compensation? It's just more work for lawyers. And I don't think people are going to like the song. Once we know that's good, AI is going to be like, ah, it sounds dope, but it's still not. I don't think so. No, like the song. Once we know that AI is going to be like, ah, it sounds dope, but it's still not.
Starting point is 01:50:06 I don't think that's true. This has already been solved in film. So you have the CGI rights to your face. And you can license your CGI rights. So like, what is the guy's name? Bruce Willis, I think. Bruce Willis, yeah. So Bruce Willis licenses CGI rights. And there are other people who knew that they were going to die.
Starting point is 01:50:21 That's how I'm going to use him now. Big time. But for real, think about it also with people who are part of existing franchises when they know knew that they were going to die. I'm not going to use him now. Big time. But for real, think about it also with people who are part of existing franchises when they know that they're probably going to die. You wouldn't even need to flip out Dumbledore if you know you could do it. Harrison Ford. He's doing a movie where he's aged down and he said this is the first time
Starting point is 01:50:38 it seemed realistic so he signed on to do it but he's playing a guy in his 50s or whatever. So I think they'll just do the same thing with your voice. And we know if it's fucking Drake's voice and they'll find some way where it has to be within five percentage points of authentic. But that's if they pass a law. Do they have a law that inhibits you from using some voice?
Starting point is 01:50:55 They will have to pass a law. They will once what happens without us talking about it, once it becomes profitable. Once there's money involved, they're going to find a way to get their money. And they deserve it. The problem that's coming with AI is that it's moving so quickly. I was reading something about this the other week, that because laws take so long to get
Starting point is 01:51:11 passed, by the time laws are passed on AI, AI will be so much further ahead, and then they'll have to do it again. Yeah. So law isn't going to be able to keep up with the rate of AI, and that's like a big ethical problem with it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they could theoretically,
Starting point is 01:51:25 we would probably have to do the same thing for this pod, for our stand-up, whatever. There's an AI Joe Rogan experience. It isn't great yet, but the point is, and they say this at the beginning,
Starting point is 01:51:35 this is to show how AI will improve. It's just going to get better and better. But episode one wasn't great. By episode 1,000, three years from now, that shit could be crazy. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:51:44 I think there's quite a way off on jokes and the reason I think that is so a friend of mine is called Rebecca she put into chat GPT
Starting point is 01:51:52 and said write me a joke in the style of Adam Rowe yeah now they know when you're a comedian and when you're not
Starting point is 01:51:59 because she also put write me a joke in the style of Rebecca and then her surname and said I apologise I'm not aware of a comedian named Rebecca so it knows who it is
Starting point is 01:52:07 and who it isn't but for me and you've got to understand how offensive this was because this is a robot that has took every bit of information I've ever put on the internet
Starting point is 01:52:15 and this is the perfect amalgamation it's come up with it's like this is something he would say I told my girlfriend I wanted to spice up our relationship
Starting point is 01:52:23 so she bought me a paprika shaker. I said I meant role play, and now every time we have sex, she dresses up as a chicken tikka masala. That is the internet. Putting my entire body of work into two sentences. And you're reading about this thing,
Starting point is 01:52:40 it's like the smartest brain ever. It is the perfect brain. It is a genius machine. In fact, this is what he'd say. They chose the right setup, though. That was the joke that I saw from you that I was like, yeah, you should definitely open when I was in London.
Starting point is 01:52:54 The strap-on joke. It was so funny. They had me on the setup. With them fucking Pacos, man, with their curries. They're always getting away. All right, what else we got, Mike? Okay, so TikTok is officially banned in Montana.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Do you want to talk about that? Apparently, you just can't download it like a new, like you can't get it from the App Store, but if you have it, you can still use it. Oh, so in the whole state of Montana? Yeah, and then I think they are charging platforms that keep having it available to download $10,000 a day. So like if Apple still has it on the App Store in Montana, $10,000 a day, fine. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:53:29 If I'm not mistaken. Yeah, but they said there's no real way to enforce it other than making the App Stores remove it off of the platform for a fee per day. What I think is we're afraid that there's another country
Starting point is 01:53:41 that is winning the culture war. So it's not about extracting our data. It's the fact that none of our apps war. So it's not about extracting our data. It's the fact that none of our apps can fuck with it, and we don't like that, which is pussy. Make the better app. You also brought up, I think it was you, brought up you could put propaganda on there from that country.
Starting point is 01:53:55 And I think you said this with the monk story, or maybe Mark said this. It's just suddenly all over TikTok to the point that maybe China put it there so we would be like, yo, your joke, maybe we should look into Tibet. Maybe they're not victims. Maybe these guys are crazy.
Starting point is 01:54:09 And that's another fear. Yeah, they absolutely will do that. And instead of having to buy ads on Facebook to manipulate elections, they'll do it through TikTok. Let's give it straight. So make something better. Like, don't shut it down. Make a better version.
Starting point is 01:54:20 But I'm pretty sure apps also, like once you agree to the terms and services, they can track other stuff that you're doing on your phone. So it's not just what you're posting. a better version. But I'm pretty sure apps also, like once you agree to the terms and services, they can track other stuff that you're doing on your phone. Of course. So it's not just what you're posting. It's not as simple as I put it and that was stupid reductive.
Starting point is 01:54:31 You can see your location and all that type of shit. 100%. And they'll know what other things we're interested in and how they can sway us and absolutely we'll use it
Starting point is 01:54:39 come election time or they'll know how to target us with certain things. So they'll know when a kid is conservative and they know what ads they need to send at him to make sure that he votes for Trump or votes for DeSantis or whatever is in the best interest of China. Sure, 100%. It just bothers me that like, no pun intended, we're bowing down and go, make it illegal. It's like, no, make something better.
Starting point is 01:55:01 Do you know what I mean? Like just make a better... If the fucking Germans got some crazy plane, make a better plane so we could take out those fucking German planes. Do you know what I'm saying? You don't just go, no Germans, no planes in war. They should have done that, actually. That's kind of a good idea. Just ban planes. Way better war type of...
Starting point is 01:55:19 Yes! Make better shit! But isn't that what we did with nukes? We used two nukes and then we're like, yo, everybody chill on these nukes. Let's not make as many nukes. Let's pass a couple laws. Let's get these nukes out of here. Yo, we do be doing that shit.
Starting point is 01:55:32 The second other people got nukes, we're like, I think we need an agreement. I think we need an agreement. We're gatekeeping nukes. That's not fair. Yeah, we can't do that shit. Now, I will say it's pussy of China to not let us put our shit over there.
Starting point is 01:55:44 They don't want any of our apps over there. So if it's like tit for tat, sure, but we were never that way. We can't wait for Chinese dollars for movies. We can't wait for Chinese dollars for everything. It's like, fuck that. What about the Chinese phone? The Huawei or whatever? I mean, I guess every phone is a Chinese phone when you think about it, right?
Starting point is 01:56:01 That's where we're making them. But, yeah, I don't know. It just seems soft. I don't like that. Yeah. I want to see Mark Zuckerberg working. I don't want to see him doing karate or fucking hanging out in Hawaii.
Starting point is 01:56:12 He's doing taekwondo or whatever. He's at MMA fights. He's hanging out in Hawaii, and China's whooping our ass on these fucking TikToks. He's an absolute sociopathic animal, and now he's just taking it easy? Right? Like, what happened when you were fucking over your friends to become one of the
Starting point is 01:56:30 most powerful people in the world? Where's that fucking guy? Come back. You don't get to now be a fun guy that vacations and puts zinc on his face. Am I not allowed to retire? No. He's too important. No. You're our slave. That's our white slave. Mark Zuckerberg is our white slave. You're out of it. Get back to sl slave. Mark Zuckerberg is our white slave.
Starting point is 01:56:45 You're out to get those slaves. Fix it. What is the convo in England? Are they going to ban it over there? No, it's just not even a thing. A lot of the discourse about it in England is laughing at the American government trying to do it. It's like, why the fuck? It's sort of taking your... It's embarrassing.'t yeah but y'all already lost hundreds of years ago
Starting point is 01:57:09 like you're comfortable no for real that is part of it that is part of it like you don't care as much but it's embarrassing yeah it's it's just especially because like in the sort of the footage from is it in congress yeah where they're discussing it. Like the guys interviewing the TikTok guy just look fucking stupid at every, because he's just got an answer for everything. And they're like, it's like that Kathy Newman, Jonathan Peterson, Jordan Peterson interview, where they're like, so you're saying,
Starting point is 01:57:35 and he's just like, no, no, no. I'm just saying what I've just said. He's just embarrassing them. So it's making the United States look a bit. There's a great part where everybody's reacting like this they asked if he lets his kids use TikTok, they asked the CEO they asked him if he lets his
Starting point is 01:57:52 kids use TikTok and he said he doesn't and it's like well don't let your kids use TikTok you fucking idiot, instead they're going see this is how you know it's bad well be a parent. You wait for China
Starting point is 01:58:07 to parent your fucking kids? Do you let your kids drink whiskey? No. Let's get rid of whiskey. Fuck whiskey, dude. I mean, it's just shocking, man. It's shocking because the parents, that's the thing,
Starting point is 01:58:19 the parents, they don't want to have to look after their kids. And I get that, I imagine, as well. It's nice that you could just put a screen in front of your kid. He doesn't cry, he doesn't moan, he doesn't bitch about anything. You can do whatever you want for an hour.
Starting point is 01:58:30 You don't have to worry. He's going to be safe. I get that. That's got to be nice. He's going to be the best parent, bro. For an hour, bro. For an hour, one hour. That didn't exist back in the day. They played blocks, they got bored, and you had to be like, I get it, that's fucking boring.
Starting point is 01:58:43 You know what I mean? You empathize with the kid, but now it's... That's what child labor was about. It was just like, go do bored, and you have to be like, I get it, that's fucking boring. You know what I mean? Like you empathize with the kid, but now it's... That's what child labor was about. It was just like, go do something. Give them something to do. Oh, now you're bitching?
Starting point is 01:58:50 In the shop? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the shop? Kids want to work. That's what Minecraft is, really. It's just like building stuff all day. You know what I mean? Yeah, maybe the sweatshop thing
Starting point is 01:58:58 isn't that crazy. Yeah, they want to be out there in the field. What else would they be doing? Nothing. On the internet. Commenting on our videos. I got bored with stuff like that, really.
Starting point is 01:59:07 I started working when I was like 12, like just selling things. So I'd like burn like pirate DVDs and sell them. I had a paper round, and I would sell fake DVDs and fake CDs so the customers on the paper round. We'd never had like a tuck shop. Like you couldn't buy sweets or crisps at school.
Starting point is 01:59:24 So I'd just sell them on the yard I'd take like bags of crisp and chocolate and drinks and hustle yeah
Starting point is 01:59:29 bro you were OG Netflix dude you were the first Netflix like I would I would do any like latest film release I'd get you that I could like
Starting point is 01:59:37 if there was an album that came out I could get you that and I used to do a thing where it was like if you just want to pick 10 songs I'll just put them
Starting point is 01:59:43 on a CD for you oh I had like like two big neighborhoods worth of papers. The paper I paid like 14 pound a week. It was just nothing. But like I was making like... Oh, so you use that to get into people's homes so you can sell them all the other shit.
Starting point is 01:59:57 Genius. Here's your paper and do you want to order any? You want some sweets, you want some CDs. Wow. Fucking genius. Damn, bro. Why did I start? Why did I start?
Starting point is 02:00:04 Yeah. Because I became 18 and you can't... So you're 18? I think I was like 16. Wow. Fucking genius. Damn, bro. Why did I stop? Why did I stop? Yeah. Because I became 18 and you can't. So you're 18? I think I was like 16. Yeah. Wow. Like 12 to 16. I didn't want to left school.
Starting point is 02:00:12 I got a job straight away. I worked in McDonald's for two years and then I worked in bars when I started standing up. Oh, wow. Wait, you went from having your own business, hustling, to working at McDonald's. Yeah, people don't want like an adult knocking on their door
Starting point is 02:00:23 asking them to sell DVDs. That had to be a step down in income though. A little bit. But I always just, I've always just been like, I will work every hour I can stay awake
Starting point is 02:00:31 so that I can earn as much money and then just enjoy it. I treat the stand up the same. It's like, I did 10 years of, before Have A Word took off, the greatest thing Have A Word has done
Starting point is 02:00:42 for me as a comic is given me the freedom to not do gigs I don't want to do. Yeah. So like, I don't have to drive is done for me as a comic is giving me the freedom to not do gigs i don't want to do yeah so like i don't have to drive three hours for a few hundred pounds i can gig for nothing in liverpool or manchester yeah and with the freedom to fail yeah the freedom to go on stage and go oh i don't have to kill yeah i can figure this bit out yeah like the way you would use your new york clubs of course that's not really a thing in the uk like every gig is you're getting paid to close.
Starting point is 02:01:05 You've got to, like, you've got to deliver. You've got to do 20 minutes. Yeah. Like, if I could just drop into a club and go, can I just do 15 minutes, unlisted,
Starting point is 02:01:12 just bang it out, do it wrong, get it wrong, upset people and go, oh, I'm going to go and work on that. Yeah. That's what Have A Word's done for me as a comic is,
Starting point is 02:01:20 I, like, do you see the special we were talking about before? When we had a chat at the comedy cell a couple of weeks ago, you asked me a question I don't think we ever got to answer, which was, how do you try an hour out? How do you work that through, like, in clubs?
Starting point is 02:01:35 What I started doing was just putting on Adam Rowan friends. So I'd have two friends on. They'd do 10 minutes each, we'd have an interval. And then I would just do the hour with the complete freedom to fuck it up. Really cheap tickets. Yeah. And I did Juicy
Starting point is 02:01:48 maybe 30 times. Yeah. Before I filmed it. But that was it. That's all. Yeah. Just 30 shows. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:54 Because it's a story. Yeah. It was like, all I've got to do is find the meaningful bits. Like there was a couple of moments where I was like, that goes there.
Starting point is 02:02:03 And then I also had another comic direct it. So he came to every preview and was like tell me about that put that there put that there change that he made me take jokes out that got big laughs because he was like it doesn't matter yeah to the story he's like you're getting a big laugh but what for it's just distracting from what we're trying to do yeah um yeah putting that hour together was it was I started writing in September and we filmed it in January wow like how can you ever
Starting point is 02:02:29 ten and that's crazy at a comedy club or you just found a venue and did it so there's a venue in Glasgow called the Rotunda and it's not a particularly
Starting point is 02:02:36 sort of it's not like a club that all comics want to play and it doesn't look very great but because I could I knew we were going to get a pink velour curtain and I knew I wanted it really tight so what actually happened with it in the build knew we were going to get a pink Velour curtain and I knew I wanted it really tight.
Starting point is 02:02:46 So what actually happened with it? When we were doing the arena show with the podcast in December, my plan was do this story, find out how long it was. And originally it was like 35, 40 minutes. And I was like, right, I'll get that down to 20. I'll do it at the arena show and I'll release the footage from that as like a mini special, like a 20-minute here's the story. Because I was quite sort of constantly tagging my ex-girlfriend
Starting point is 02:03:14 on Instagram and stuff, all of my followers have always been like, what happened? Like you seem like they're happy and like what, well, they wanted to know. So I always felt like I owed them the story, which is a weird feeling to have when it's a personal thing yeah
Starting point is 02:03:26 you guys were so open about that relationship so I was like I'll get it down to 20 minutes and then I did an Adam Rowan Friends in London and I had me mate Alfie
Starting point is 02:03:35 and me mate Vittorio open for me and they both come backstage they both had two things first of all Alfie was like that needs to get longer not shorter
Starting point is 02:03:42 he's like there's more to that and you can't be boiling that down. And then Vittorio said, that set will work at the arena. Like all of your fans will love it and it'll get a big laugh. But you can't release it as a special from there
Starting point is 02:03:54 because it's going to look stupid. You telling that story that relies on someone who doesn't already like you to have empathy and understand what it was about. Doing that in front of 8,000 people is just not going to look right. He went, that story, and the sentence he used was,
Starting point is 02:04:08 that belongs in the back room of a pub. That is something that like an old man sat on his own would tell someone he's just met. In the back room, he went, find a little room. So we went to Glasgow and there's a 200 seater. We got the kit and put it, and we were like, if the shots are all tight, you won't see how much of a shit hole the room is
Starting point is 02:04:27 we can just like really frame it like it looks like we've invented a venue for it and it was perfect for it we did four shows 200 people a show two Saturday
Starting point is 02:04:37 two Sunday and just filmed them all and in the end we just used the last show oh wow it was the last show on the Sunday that's when you got it
Starting point is 02:04:44 it was because I was like oh I've already got it yeah like we got it in the end we just used the last show. Oh, wow. It was the last show on the Sunday. That's when you got it. It was because I was like, oh, I've already got it. Yeah. Like, we got it in the can and I relaxed and I was finding, like, little tiny new bits to it and I come off and Alfie was like, Alfie was supposed to go home because that was the last show. He was like, I'm going to get,
Starting point is 02:04:58 because he was going to go back to London on, like, a flight. He's like, I'm just going to go home as soon as you're on stage. I'll watch you do the first five and then I'll go because there's no directing to do now and towards the end i could see at the back of the room like alfie's silhouette and i was like what the fuck are you still doing here and i come off and i was like are you still doing it he went i knew that was the one that was the one he's like because he was doing the edit he was like i wasn't leaving yeah he's like i wanted
Starting point is 02:05:21 to make sure you nailed every bit of it. Because in the penultimate show, I'd come off and he'd gone, you've got it now. But if you could do these 16 things in the last show, then it's perfect. It's already good enough, but get these 16 things in.
Starting point is 02:05:37 And I got 15 of them. We missed one thing, but it wasn't big enough for us to be like, and he was like, that is as close. And he's like, I don't know how you've just done that. I don't know how you've gone on
Starting point is 02:05:46 with one show left to do and gone, do exactly what we did in the third show, plus these 15 things. Yeah. He went, but you did it. And the reaction to Juicy was just,
Starting point is 02:05:55 it's changed what I want to do at my next hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I, like my plan was, this is one story. So I've dropped two specials this year. The other one,
Starting point is 02:06:04 Imperius, was my last tour show yeah and that's just an hour of stand-up that's just a tour yeah punchline punchline concept comedy here's the idea is the jokes that make that point of view okay i was like i don't want to be the type of comic who does like something like juicy all the time yeah but the amount like when i released imperious i was i maybe got like when I released Imperius I was getting I maybe got like a thousand messages from people
Starting point is 02:06:26 and it was like one sentence really enjoyed the special man keep it up I've had it must be ten thousand messages and Juicy's had
Starting point is 02:06:35 less views than Imperius but their paragraphs their people going they haven't because they haven't, they're not totally educated on all the stand-up. It's not like I've done
Starting point is 02:06:47 something completely groundbreaking, but they're like, I haven't seen, because they're only watching mainstream, the big hits, they're like,
Starting point is 02:06:52 I haven't seen this before. I haven't seen one story. I haven't seen the pacing. I can't now just go, well, I'm not doing that again. So I've got, the new tour show I'm going to do
Starting point is 02:07:04 is sort of going to be, I want to try and make it sort of the perfect've got the new tour show I'm gonna do is sort of gonna be I wanna try and make it sort of the perfect animal of the two yeah so I wanna make the first half like bang bang clubby
Starting point is 02:07:12 yeah abrasive it's about very introspective stand up yeah and then the second half will be one story yeah
Starting point is 02:07:18 that will without telling like without stamping it yeah will be here's why I'm like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:26 And that's what I'm trying to do with the next special. Oh, that's great. Yeah, that's great, man. Yeah, story is, story hits different, man. There's something about it. There's just something about it. As amazing as, don't get me wrong, like I, you know, I love doing those bits
Starting point is 02:07:41 or as you say, like the punchy, the standup kind of club stuff. Club comedy. It's great, and it's so much fun, and it's great to antagonize, but making sure that you can find a way to either bake that into story or having these personal stories.
Starting point is 02:07:55 I don't know, people connect to it in a very different way. People connect to storytelling stand-up the way they connect to a song. The song doesn't have to hit every single thing that they've experienced, but they relate lyrics to a song. The song doesn't have to hit every single thing that they've experienced, but they relate, like, lyrics to the song. Like, a song can be about, like,
Starting point is 02:08:09 someone's lost lover, like someone they loved. That's what I'm saying about your boy. Like, he should explore that story on stage with his autistic brother. Like, there's a reason
Starting point is 02:08:19 why Brian Regan fans are saying, can you tell that story about the whatever? The same thing with Bert. And it's like, I mean, I even remember Eddie Murphy, the early story about the whatever? The same thing with Bert. And it's like, I mean, I even remember Eddie Murphy,
Starting point is 02:08:27 the early story about the Goonie Goo Goo. You know what I mean? Like, there's tons of bits that Eddie had, but these like worlds that he built,
Starting point is 02:08:33 you know, you really lock in on them and they're profound. So, yeah, it's cool that you came across that and you could continue exploring it. I really want to do it.
Starting point is 02:08:41 It's, it's really exciting. And, I already know the story I want to use for, because I haven't tried the story yet. Yeah. Because I'm just in, I need half an hour of. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:51 Bang, bang. I need a club set. Yeah. Like once I put something out, I'm like, I can't do that anymore. Yeah. So at the minute I'm going to clubs where I'm like cocky and used to being, you know. But you don't have the jokes.
Starting point is 02:09:02 Yeah. And at the minute i'm like because i've got that freedom yeah and it's all about the special and the tour yeah i'm going to clubs where in the past i've been that hungry up and comer yeah it was just body and people who are 20 years like further down the line than me who've just been doing the same set for ages coming hungry and with like a 20 that i've ran into the ground i've got none of it yeah i'm going on with like a 20 that I've ran into the ground, I've got none of it. And I'm going on with like trying to find new bits on bills where people are killing. And it doesn't often make you work hard fast
Starting point is 02:09:32 because you're like, I'm not the worst act on the bill, but I'm not the best tonight. And that fucking bothers me. Yeah, sure. Yeah, this is the hardest part, starting from zero. It's the best part though. Oh, I hate it. The best part to me, yeah, I hate the beginning.
Starting point is 02:09:47 I like once I get, because I like play, and I like to take big swings. And if I have like 15, I can take the biggest fucking swings because I can dig the deepest hole and pull myself out. Yeah. I can dig the deepest hole and pull myself out. When I don't, it just feels malicious or angry or there's just nothing silly. I can't set the tone. So I like being able to go as crazy as possible knowing full well even if I'm buried under the ground, I have a bit that brings us back up to normal. And that just allows me to kind of exist in a world that I find the most fun with stand-up.
Starting point is 02:10:23 That just allows me to kind of exist in a world that I find the most fun with stand-up. It is most exciting finding new bits when you really need it. But, yeah, I do not like doing that for a 15-minute. Oh, God. I hate that. The first time you get a big laugh with a new bit is the best feeling in comedy. Yeah, it's amazing. You're chasing it. And then the next time you do the bit and it sucks,
Starting point is 02:10:45 you're like, what just happened? Is that real? Was that not real? Same night you just go upstairs and you're like, what conversation have you people had that that happened?
Starting point is 02:10:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You almost want to bring them downstairs. Tell them it was fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, yeah. Oh, that's great, man. So you'll already book a tour before you have the set ready?
Starting point is 02:11:05 Yeah, so... great, man. So you'll already book a tour before you have the set ready? Yeah, so... That's wild. Yeah, but I just know I'll get there. Yeah, no, you have your process and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. So my tour starts in September, and I'm doing six dates in mainland Europe. Well, not in the UK.
Starting point is 02:11:20 We're doing Copenhagen Oslo Helsinki Stockholm Paris and Harlem which is just outside just outside Amsterdam and that's the September date and then the UK starts in October but before that
Starting point is 02:11:34 like I will do like club sets like you are in New York as much as I can between now and then yeah so I fly back from here Wednesday night
Starting point is 02:11:44 I land at 7am Thursday morning thursday morning i'm gonna go straight to our podcast studio and do have a word and then i'm going straight from there to newcastle which is about three hours away to do adam rowan friends so i've got two comics on i'll host it i'll do crowd work bring them on break and then i'll go on with paper and i will talk for as long as i can be fucked to do. Nice. I guarantee the audience, when I put the Adam Rowan friends on, I always say, I'll be on stage in that second half
Starting point is 02:12:11 for at least half an hour and up to an hour. And if I go longer, then great, but 30 to 60 minutes, and that's the show you're paying for. I make the tickets cheap. And do they have an expectation that you're working stuff out? Yeah, like it's advertised as fully work-in-progress show, and then the proper tour starts. and then I'm going to go to Edinburgh again this year.
Starting point is 02:12:29 Oh great. So you'll be able to sharpen shit up over there. Yeah, so I'll do the hour 20 times in August. Yeah. So by the time I go
Starting point is 02:12:37 to Europe in September, I'll have done the hour in its full form 40 times. Yeah. And then I'll also have done 120, 150 club sets where I'm trying it
Starting point is 02:12:48 in 20-minute chunks. Like, by the time I go to Europe and then come back to the UK, I'll have done most of the jokes 150 times. Yeah. Do you think English audiences are more accustomed
Starting point is 02:12:59 to a long-form story because of fringe and storytelling at festivals like that? No, because, and sorry to be so blunt with that answer, but the fringe is its own thing, and the people who go to the fringe don't go to comedy clubs,
Starting point is 02:13:12 and they don't go to comedy tour shows. It doesn't transcend. So comedy club audiences are expecting stand-up, punchy. Yeah, but if you can get them with a story, like, try in that juicy story. There's times, and if people go and watch it it where i don't speak for five to ten seconds because i'm thinking about something and i want the audience to know i am and i want them to think about something yeah to be because i tried it in some comedy clubs before i filmed it yeah and to have two or three hundred people
Starting point is 02:13:41 in a comedy club pin drop silence yeah and changing what they've seen from stand up before where it's not just yeah you're still laughing at that one here's the next one yeah was so cool
Starting point is 02:13:52 yeah but you've got to win a lot of trust to get them there if you do like a fringe show in a comedy club or like try and do half of your fringe show clothes
Starting point is 02:14:00 in a comedy club if they don't know who you are they're like no who gives a fuck why do I give a fuck about your story? Tell me some fucking jokes.
Starting point is 02:14:07 Make me laugh and then I'll trust you. You've got to fucking hit them over the head first. Most comedy clubs are in cities and most cities in the UK are full of working class people.
Starting point is 02:14:17 And if you're going out on a Saturday night and you're closing the show, that is their one night out that month. Yeah. So you've got to deliver. I think their one night out that month. Yeah. So you've got to deliver. I think there's a way to blend them, though,
Starting point is 02:14:28 and I think that there has been comedians that have done it very well, which is telling that story and making it hilarious on the way. So using that traditional kind of punchy stand-up in those moments while still telling serious and thoughtful things. I mean, Chappelle's done that brilliantly.
Starting point is 02:14:46 And so, yeah, yeah. I'm excited for you, man. I'm really excited for you, dude. Dude, thank you so much for coming, my brother.
Starting point is 02:14:53 Anything else before we get out of here? Obviously, tell the people. All the specials I've mentioned are on the Have A Weird Podcast
Starting point is 02:14:59 YouTube channel. Released it ourselves, funded it ourselves. It's youtube.com slash haveawirdpod. My Instagram's adamrocomedian I think TikTok's the same and Twitter's
Starting point is 02:15:09 adamrocomedy but yeah go don't go and buy tour tickets go and check the specials out first and make sure you like it there you go love that
Starting point is 02:15:17 my man guys that's been flagrant

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